Triforce! - Triforce! #20: Bodega Part Uno

Episode Date: September 21, 2016

The ultimate of dad chat commences with stamps, smoking and the optimal methods for naps. Pyrion has also prepared Part Uno of Bodega's Space Adventure!   Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Please play responsibly. Hello and welcome back to the Triforce podcast. This time, not on the road. No. Not in a van, not in a tour bus, not in a tank. Not in the tank or the bus. Yeah, it's a shame. Just from the dad garage, the spare bedroom, and I don't know whereabouts are you, P-Flex?

Well, aren't you in a spare bedroom then? He's in the mental hospital room again. Ah'm in uh my office uh right yeah is it got a bed in it it may have a bed it's a you could say that it was a spare room in our house that was converted into an office it has a bed if i grow weary from work and um are you the type of person who collects a lot of paraphernalia and puts it up on a shelf and stuff in your well spare room in your office let me tell you something i am but the problem is i'm also very lazy and i have the shelving unit here yeah and i keep meaning to build it and rearrange the room but i just never get around to it yeah so i have all this shit just

in boxes and so it's the idea to put a little shelf with one day yeah i'm gonna have like ground and i was gonna put a whiteboard on the wall and i was gonna write things on it something from chat like each time i'm streaming like i'll put something on the whiteboard or whatever so it sort of stays uh current right yeah right yeah like reminders or notes or just just shout outs shout out to sephiroth 69 for the big donation and stuff exactly it's always funny you see these sort of knickknackery shelves in the background sips it's always you had some in your office didn't you and it was just a sort of eclectic mix of crap that you'd either been given or picked up or been sent in the mail it is i feel like a lot

of these shelves in the background of people are largely just full of tat and they're kind of crappy like yeah it's not a lot of thought gone into it you know it like for example i think with you it was an old garrosh poster um sip strimber an old warcraft poster well i got a whole bunch of stuff from blizzcon the first year i went i was really excited so i brought an extra suitcase with me that was empty just so i could buy like a bunch of stuff at BlizzCon. And then when I got home, I lazily just sort of like half-assedly put it up onto shelves and stuff. But like really, when I got home, I was like, do I really want all this crap? Not really. It was exciting like at the time, but like now I wish I could just throw it all out, but then I'd feel bad throwing it all

out. So it just sits there and collects dust. It's difficult, right? That's obviously something that's close to your heart. It's stuff which means a lot to you. And therefore, it's okay, I suppose, to have it on the wall. But then again, what else would you have? You know, what would you put up? What kind of pictures would you hang there? Would you choose some artwork or something?

At the moment, I have a Barbie poster. A poster of the movie tangled and uh a framed five five uh blown up versions of stamps uh with with famous trains on them these are just old things that were in the spare room and i haven't even moved those so so where did this picture stamps come from i don't know probably my one of mrs how much would you sell that for? Because that sounds really interesting to me. It's like a long portrait frame. Looking for some stuff for the background. Looking for a really particular piece. Stamps on a poster?

Yeah. Are you a big fan of, say, the Cheltenham Flyer? 29-pence stamp. Yeah, yeah. Cornish Riviera, 34-pence stamp. The Pencaster Flyer and the Greendale Rocket. Those are some other ones I really like too. So these don't sound like very old stamps.

They're quite... So it's a modern... They're modern stamps. Definitely not modern, dude. These are steam trains. It's like steam trains. Yeah, but it's got the 34p. How long has a stamp been that expensive?

How long has a stamp been 17p? Man, they're like commemorative as well yeah they're not current stamps aren't like let me tell you that you know the way they're on those stamps they have a tiny portrait of the queen in the corner she looks super young in the portrait yeah so these are old stamps like these are probably from the 70s you know they did like um over here in jersey they did a superman stamp because the Superman movie that came out, the guy who played Superman is actually from Jersey. So it was like a big deal.

Yeah, yeah. He came over here with Russell Crowe. Let me remember his name. Is it Henry Cavaziel? Is that his name? Something like that. Yeah. Anyway, he's from here.

So they came over for like the premiere here. Henry Cavill. There he is. And at the zoo, they a big like life-size statue of him too like yeah he's from jersey pretty big deal over here that's right they have that was so weird it's weird isn't it yeah it's just like a couple of couple of different places there's just like oh yeah by the way gigantic seven foot tall statue of henry and did the recent superman movie actually really do that well or anything like it's not it's not like it's gonna go down in history as like it was a bad superman movie ever you know like i think i think a lot of people still look back to

the old movies and say yeah that that was superman they really honestly dc has done a terrible job with with movies they've done so many movies that they've tried to do from the DC Universe that have just been a complete disaster. Well, I guess they must feel like pretty self-conscious. Because Marvel seems to be doing quite well with theirs. They're doing lots of good movies. They've got TV series and stuff as well.

I guess they want to keep up, but they can't because maybe they just suck a bit. I don't know. So he's from Jersey, is he? Sorry. It's all right. Yeah, he is, I think. I didn't even realize that.

I guess it makes sense why there's a statue in there. Yeah, so for some time, the local stamps had Superman on it. So if you live in Jersey, do you have to use these on your stamps? Well, not anymore. They're long gone now. I think they were replaced with, I don't know, some sort of ancient flute or something. Some other famous person from Jersey.

Some other garbage that they decided to put on a stamp. Who else is famous from Jersey? Bergerac? Bergerac, yeah, he's pretty famous. Well, he was. He got his own stamps. He was a pretty big deal. Yeah, he used to have some stamps, yeah. And they actually had his car.

They had Bergerac's car do you think there's ever going to be a time when you might get some stamps no i think no there's another there's another guy over here he's a youtuber who has been in the paper and everything and everybody's like he's like 20 years old does does like FIFA coin pack stuff or whatever. He's got like, I think he's got like 2 million subs or something now. Like he's done really good. Oh, crap. But they talk about him like every once in a while he's in the paper and stuff. So I think he's like the big YouTube guy over here.

So he's going to have the stats. Yeah, yeah. And he's perfect for it though, right? He's like 20 years old. You know, he's gonna have to yeah yeah and he's he's he's he's perfect for it though right he's like 20 years old you know he's a young guy he's full of like um you know piss and vinegar whatever you know I'm just like an old dad nobody cares you know nobody wants to see me on a stamp you're on the wikipedia list of people from jersey am I yeah wow you're what you're uh you're there there's a list of people from jersey on wik you're under other notables, I might add. You may be the person at the very bottom of the page, but you're on there.

Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. AKA Yogscast Sips, gaming commentator and video producer. Whoa. To put it this way, you're right at the bottom. You're right at the bottom, which is a bit of an issue. He's a notable person.

I'll take that. If I'm on a list, at least I'm on a list. I don't care where I am on it. It's nice to be on a list. You almost sound a bit jealous, Lewis. Any list with you on it anywhere? Notable people from wherever it is you're from? I was thinking that would be really nice

for you to have on your wall of your dad garage would be a blown up picture of stamps with you on them yeah now you're talking that would be a badass thing to have that would be a pretty badass thing to have yeah i don't know like i'm too lazy to decorate really like when it comes down to it i don't mind getting stuff or having stuff given to me or whatever and bringing it back that's not a problem for me it's when it's here fuck i don't want to put it up or anything like i just i guess you know i got other shit to do like maybe you just need to find things that please you though because you know we've met um matt dixon the hearthstone card artist guy and terps big fan he he bought a autograph piece of his art you know

of one of his um i can't remember which picture it was you know yeah but got i think it was like um hello hello like the um oh yeah yeah yeah and so you know that's a cool thing i think to have a signed picture of a hearthstone card that you like on the wall or something like that i think that's that's that's something or something that that means. You know, like now we've talked about that piece of art with the stamps on. That's iconic. Yeah, it's weird. Some people really value that kind of stuff. I do not.

Like if I got something signed by someone, ah, fuck, I wouldn't really care. You know, it's just more junk. You know, like I don't like having stuff everywhere, even though I do have stuff everywhere. It just drives me nuts. And like, I don't find that stuff important or valuable or sentimental you know like there's a lot of things that like i guess people collect that they like it to have or whatever but i don't know if i'm unique in that sense but i'm i'm i'm like the kind of guy who

goes on vacation doesn't take pictures and stuff like i just find it annoying but i just can't be bothered anymore like i used to come back from vacation with like 200 pictures and stuff like i just find it annoying but i just can't be bothered anymore like i used to come back from vacation with like 200 pictures and now i'll take like seven and i just i just can't be bothered i mean i used to enjoy it but i'm just like i find it just ruins the flow you know you're just there you're enjoying a moment you know you see something or whatever it's like quick get the camera i was like oh what i you know i have to rummage through a bag and i might miss something or whatever and i fucking get the camera. I was like, oh, what? You know, I have to rummage through a bag and I might miss something or whatever. And I fucking get the camera out and like, pictures, you never go back and look at them.

Or at least I don't. Like, I don't just like, oh, it's Sunday. It's raining outside. I'm just going to put on a bit of Enya and go back through my old picture books. You know, like, fuck that. You say that, Sid, but I know that you've got a picture book for your kids. That's different. And you take pictures of them all the time.

Yeah, I mean, we don't have big picture books, but we have like a couple of sort of framed. Photo albums. No, they're more like, you know, you know, those frames that you put on the wall and they're like lots of little picture frames in one big frame. Lots of stuff like that, you you know so you can see like and you might put like a year's worth of select pictures just to see how much they grew like in their first year and stuff also only really the first kid like i've hardly taken any pictures of the second kid we have a lot of pictures of our daughter but we haven't i don't even know what my

second kid looks like we're too fucking you know we're too snowed under with like parent stuff that we can't send them away to be printed or anything so it's like you know with the first one it was much easier we had a little bit more time but well this is an issue we're building issues isn't it that that we don't we don't take pictures physically anymore we have to take them on a on a yeah on a phone and then the effort of going and printing those out is kind of a rare well the phone the the phone camera was amazing because it made it easier for people to take pictures of themselves which is all they wanted to fucking do in the first place realistically that's right you know like that's the nature of people right so now you go on the internet and you see all these people you

know taking these like perfectly angled pictures of themselves so that you can't see like their big fucking neck beards or like their big fucking love handles and stuff like that you know what i mean like it's just yeah it's it's really has been perfect for like a lot of people to just start taking pictures of themselves but like i'm not even interested in that i don't want to take a picture of myself i don't want to take a picture of anyone else i certainly don't want to take a fucking picture of a building or the sunset or any shit like that like i i'm fucking done with cameras and phone cameras like i'm done if there was a room 101 you know if i was on that show where i could put something in there it would be cameras and phone cameras holy i mean this is

one thing i relatively noticed when my dad came around last christmas and so then he was on the live stream you know when he was on camera i realized how old he looked but because he was my dad i didn't i didn't notice like that he did you take him aside after and have he really does it very old did you take him yeah take him aside look if you a quiet word with him? He really does look very old. Did you take him aside? Look, if you're going to come on the show, you need to put some makeup on. Dye your hair. Look a little less old. Yeah, gosh, Jesus.

So do you think you look past people sometimes that you know? You never examine them physically necessarily, you know? Yeah. Do you want to see a photograph of me? You don't look. Critically. No. do you want to see a photograph you don't look no do you want to see do you want to see a picture of me i'll put it in the discord okay here you go why are you posting a picture of yourself oh that's a good one holy shit look at this one look at this one so why are you now posting pictures of yourself oh would you like to describe these pictures to an audience oh

so the first one looks like it looks like period flax has gone back to like a high school reunion um and has and and at the high school reunion they're like hey we're gonna do something fun guys we're gonna do our school pictures again but now that you're older it'll be funny that's what it looks like yeah and then the second one looks like he's been interviewed for like forbes magazine or something like you know because he's just starting a business so these are two very high quality pictures people have sent us on a white background and he's wearing a very thick very lustrous black shirt yeah and he's obviously got his black style but he's got the black glass he's got a little bit of black on the sort of around

the edge of his head like a moon rising over the horizon yeah yeah and he's got a little bit of black on the sort of around the edge of his head like a moon rising over the horizon and he's got a little bit of a shiny shine on the ball as if he's polished up nice yeah the glasses are quite clean and shiny yeah yeah and you look a little bit like a mouse in the first one a little bit like a kind of cheeky cheeky young little mouse i mean don't get me wrong it's a good it's a good picture of you like it's it's a very nice picture, but it's very funny as well. Do you know what? These were taken because for TI, right, for the big Dota event, for anyone who doesn't know, it's like the international.

They always say to us, we need pictures of you guys for, like, the promotional stuff and the talent announcements and stuff. So everyone was sending them these shitty pictures, and I would just go at the last second, oh, fuck, to send my picture so i'd take a selfie on my phone and send it to them and that would be like the official promotional picture um of me looking kind of goofy on my phone so they were like right this year we're going to get everyone we're going to take all these high quality sort of shots of all the talent and then we can use those in future so these are the pictures that they they got and they just they just sent us one saying if you want to use these for anything feel

free but i just think it's funny because it's such a high quality picture but it's like it it's still me looking like a goofy son of a bitch in this picture big bold dome it's just i don't know i just thought it was a beautiful picture it makes you look a lot younger i think than you are i think because i got i need in sainsbury's last week wow really how i i walked up i had some side how many 17 year old bald men are there out there but i said to her like i didn't have any idea i just cycled down there in my shorts and and uh i just had the money in my pocket and I put the cider on the thing. And you bought a bar's bar with a shot of the fucking coffee and a beano. Yeah, I was just like, it's just a beano, what? So I was buying some cider and she said, do you have any ID? And I said, I'm 40.

And she said, you don't look over 25. I said, yeah, I do. Like I said, you know, because she was really young. And I said, maybe you just don't know what people who are 40 you know maybe she was quite new but the other guy at the checkout was just laughing like he's just laughing his head off and i like turned him and said i said like dude i'm 40 and he went like just serve him like i was like come on holy shit you like got off your mobility scooter and everything you were like one one bino please and uh here's here's four ciders as well i also want to drink while i read this thing i need some caps for my cap gun

do you have any pop rocks in the back anywhere it's like bizarre so the second pitch you sent is of you doing a sort of a strange leaning forward and squinting pose. Yeah, no, I was just goofing around. Did they send you to a local sort of high quality pictures parlor or something? No, no, no. They have lots of really good photographers that work at Valve. And so they just had set up lighting and everything like that and makeup and all the rest of it.

And we had the pictures. But they said, like, I just went up there and smiled. I was like, OK, done. And they're like, no, no, no. Like, we want you to move around and pose and take a couple pictures and we'll pick the good ones so i was like all right so i just leant forward and did this stupid pose and they were like oh that's great i was like no i was just messing around they're like no no no that's great i was like oh do that yeah there's like three or four stupid

squinty pose i was like oh my is there a whole gallery of these is there like 50 no there's like three they chucked a bunch of them in the bin obviously i was like blinking oh, man. So is there a whole gallery of these? Is there like 50? No, there's like three. They chucked a bunch of them in the bin. Obviously, I was like blinking or making a stupid face or something. Stupid Earth face, I should say. But yeah, these are the ones that made the cut. I don't know what like the deal is with that. I don't know.

Because we did one recently. Last time was in Bristol. And Harry took our, you know, pictures. Harry. Beautiful, subtle Harry. Yeah, yeah. And I guess it's a way of doing it but he when he got me into the into the room to take the pictures you know they had like all the cameras set up and everything like i don't this wasn't like super professional but

you know what i mean like it's just pictures for thumbnails sort of thing and so harry was like all right so you know we'll just take a normal picture and then he just started going like really fast it's like all right now you, you know, we'll just take a normal picture. And then he just started going like really fast. It's like, all right, now you're feeling really sad. Okay, your dog's died. Your wife left you. The car's broken down and stuff. You're really sad.

Okay, but now you're happy because you're like, went through this whole like thing, this whole range. And it was like, he has this list of emotions. I guess like that's kind of a good way of doing it. I don't know like how he came across in any of the pictures sort of thing. I see your thumbnails and I like them. They're good thanks man i mean it means a lot you know i like having i like having my face plastered on thumbnails like like a clown and stuff that's definitely one of the things i aspired to you know when i when i set off on this great journey of mine through life and one day that's gonna be my clown ass face on a thumbnail and

there here i am you look great harry's great yeah i saw that so then he he sort of just just keeps yelling like you know all these like emotions got this long list you go down it took about like i don't know it only took about five ten minutes but what if you're doing that and you hit like a really raw nerve you know like you know he's he's in a good flow and you're feeling it you know you're getting snaps you're doing the poses you're taking the pictures and he's like your car's broken down you you know it's raining out it's raining out and you've got aids you're like what just like triggers you so hard and you start for real like having a fucking breakdown and he's like get your shit together and then you're feeling sexy and then you take your clothes off

and then you're bending over and then a man's coming up behind you and then he gets his dick out I'm getting excited here and he's lubing himself up I don't know why I'm telling you all this and it's me and now fucking you

oh my god no not again you get too into character and you end up up yeah getting raped by harry i freaking love harry oh but jeez i mean i love him but not that much christ i i do i have freaking love him yeah anything he's a very attractive man anything goes yeah he's a good guy isn't he he's a really good guy fucking i remember way back when harry the the first time i ever spoke to harry was when i first started my youtube channel i i did not know what i was doing whatsoever okay and i used to

check every once in a while you used to be able to send people messages like through your youtube channel okay so there's like an inbox of like it was almost like comments but it was like they could people could just send you stuff privately you know like almost like a direct message sort of thing i don't even know if it still exists now i went through it and and harry had sent me one he must have been like 15 years old or something at the time uh and he was like oh hey you know i'm doing arts and graphics at school or whatever and i can make you a channel banner. And I was like, okay, fine, go for it. You know, let's see. And then he made it for me. And it was really, really good. It was like the first one I ever used, you know, he had all these references to

like games that I'd been playing and stuff. And so I used it. And then I just hear from him every once in a while. And he'd be like, Oh, hey, I've got some new ideas for like a new banner and stuff. So like he was just doing like my, my art for me like very early on um and now uh and now like we fucking play games with him all the time and he works for the augscast so yeah he's going to bits yeah got some really good guys and then everyone else is great too harry especially harry's right up there i hate to play favorites but he's my favorite yeah no they're all everyone's my favorite week i mean you have to say that you're the boss but like you know people who aren't the boss can totally have favorites right oh yeah like isolate themselves is my favorite yeah mine

mine too all right for flex hooray for lewis you don't have to relax guys so i want to head back to the other thing that was in your room p flex because you said i have a bed in in my room in case i get weary yeah and that's a weird that was a weird thing to say does that happen to you do you do you get do you feel like tiredness just coming over you i nap every day dude every day how how do you control that because i if i if i go lie down in the bed i yeah'm going to be gone for hours and hours. And then if I... You set an alarm.

I can't wake up, though. That's the problem. I feel terribly groggy. I'm too groggy and grumpy if I sleep during the day. I feel really pissed off when I wake up after a nap during the day. Yeah, it's refreshing. Here's the thing. How long are you napping for?

Oh, I don't know. It's dangerous. Yeah, well, that's the problem. Well are you napping for oh like when you're not oh i don't know it's dangerous sometimes yeah well that's the problem i don't though i do this i do the like the typical dad thing where where i'll fall asleep like when i'm meant to be you know playing with the kids or watching the kids or something because i'm because i just get tired all of a sudden i'm just like what you do is you set an alarm for yourself so i have my phone and i'll set an alarm for 50 minutes to give myself five minutes to get to sleep and 45 minutes to sleep. And if you sleep for more than 45 minutes, you will wake up groggy, which is why 45 minutes, they've done research into it bit dazed for maybe 30 seconds to a minute and then i'm good to go for the rest of the day okay otherwise by 10 o'clock my eyes are feeling heavy and i want to be up to one or two power game in lewis i can't be wasting my evenings that's crazy yeah i mean

that's something i like because my kids are younger than yours i don't i don't power game to one or two oh you got a power game baby you know it's all about it because i'm too wrecked like the next day if I do that. My cutoff is like 11 o'clock and I go to bed. That's nice. Because I'm pretty tired by then. I'm good at waking up early in the morning. Like Mrs. F will wake me up sometime to like 7 or 7.30 or whatever.

And last night I went to bed at about 10 past 2. I can power through until about 1. And then I'll have to have a little nap. And then I'll be good for the rest of the day so i mean if you're getting five hours of sleep like a little nap in the day makes sense i mean that's because that's not a heck of a lot i mean first of all a lot of the world especially in hot countries do have a siesta in the afternoon where they yeah i mean london is not an hour out in in the hottest part of the day and it's you know with climate change you know yeah it's gonna move well yeah there is that yeah could we we could be finding ourselves in countries where

a siesta is not commonplace all of a sudden becoming a national so you might be a trendsetter pflex second thing could be bucking the trend definitely that's that honestly pflex bucking the trend that's that's that could be the name of your autobiography right there. It could be the name of this podcast as well. Straight Bucket. Bucket. So, the second thing is that my dad. Bucket all night long.

Talking about my dad again. You know, he was over last weekend and we hung out and walked around. Can you describe how old he looks again? It's hard to describe, but, you know know you notice it sort of in these certain things anyway he does occasionally just doze off mid-sentence but maybe he's he's very right he kind of just i mean you know we're sat there that bad having a chat after dinner and we look over and he's like kind of sort of just like sat there asleep you know just perfectly and you talk to him and he's just like oh yeah i was listening honest and then he smiles and he knows that he's just like full of sleep he's got those sleepy eyes it's like that knowing smile

like here don't i mean i do put a lot of people to sleep when i talk to them and stuff it is a thing that i have found in my life that I can do. It's one of my superpowers. Talk people to sleep. Yeah, definitely. Just so boring. But he does it all the time. So, you know, we're watching some TV or some film or something that he really likes as well.

And he's really enjoying it and laughing away. And, you know, he'll have a laugh, lean back and just fall asleep. It's like, okay. I know. It's kind of... it's that sort of. People do, right? Old people do. And I think that's, you know, when we think, you know, when we think about dying and getting old and stuff like that,

I've always maintained that when you get past a certain point in your life, like when you, when you pass like, like 80 years old, for instance, and you're at the point in your life where you just fall asleep no matter what you know like we always think about you know getting old and dying from a from a younger person's perspective right where we're into things we don't fall asleep uh you know at the drop of a hat you know we we can get stuck in we can power game still we can do you know we can do all this stuff yeah that is just like man i don't want to die you know i never want to die i want a power game forever sort of thing but when you're like 80 years old you sit down at your computer and you start power gaming and five minutes into your power gaming session you're like

falling asleep and you don't give a fuck oh man you know what i mean i think that's a nightmare i think you accept at that point that like you know what maybe i'm old and maybe i'm just ready to go oh my god you know if i'm I'm old and maybe I'm just ready to go. Oh, my God. Maybe like, you know, I'm just going to be fucking falling asleep through everything. And I, you know, I can't even like enjoy stuff anymore because I'm just falling asleep and I'm fucking old and stuff. I think that you've got to be seriously old before you just start nodding off. Yeah. Like all the time.

Like, I mean, my dad, right. My dad's in his 70s. Like my memory of him when I was a kid was, you know, he was like this. He's like six foot. He's like, you know, big guy. And I was a little kid. I was like, wow, my dad, right? My dad's in his 70s. Like, my memory of him when I was a kid was, you know, he was like this. He's like six foot. He's like, you know, big guy. And I was a little kid. I was like, wow, my dad's awesome and everything. And then my parents got divorced.

So I didn't see him. I saw him maybe once a year. And now I see him maybe once every couple of years. And recently, when we've gone to visit him, I've been like, damn, my dad is getting old. Like, he really, he's noticeably getting old. My mom's been old forever. But my dad just, he seems to is getting old. Like he really, he's noticeably getting old. Like my mom's been old forever, but my dad just, he seems to be getting older. And I remember one time I went over there

and he needed me to help him lift something. And he was like, oh, I can't lift this. And I was like, okay. So I like, I lift, I thought, this is going to be heavy. Yeah, it was like not heavy. And I'm like, oh man, he's old. I feel old, but that is like old, old.

But he's still, you know, it's not like he just falls asleep in the middle of a sentence or anything he's not he remembers whether he's had breakfast that day you know he's not it's not that bad it's you're only talking late 90s when you really start coming apart at the scene it's just it's a tough thing yeah it's it's that's when your brain starts going at that time i think think it's the parallel. I think is that past a certain age, you kind of start because it's like that film where that guy aged in reverse. What's that film? Benjamin Button.

Oh yeah. Benjamin Button. Whoops. One of the Button or Grape movies. What was Gilbert Grape? Does anyone remember? What's eating Gilbert Grape? Yeah.

It had Johnny Depp in it, I think. Was Johnny Depp Benjamin Button as well? No, that was Brad Pitt. Did he age somehow in reverse? Anyway, I think that past a certain point, you sort of become a toddler again, okay? You have to be looked after. You can't be let out. You know, you can't kind of just be pending.

Similarities to a toddler, but you don't have the endearing qualities of a toddler. You go to like a nursery. You know, that's why people put you in a home because they're like fuck this isn't like having a toddler at all there's it's depressing you put your toddler without all this shitting everywhere puts their toddlers in the same place and just they have to just you know they entertain themselves i don't think they're going to be hardcore gaming but it'll be the same sort of games that toddlers play you know simple stuff you know i i don't think we're going to be hardcore gaming, but it'll be the same sort of games that toddlers play. You know, simple stuff. You know, I don't think we're going to be in an old folks home playing Scrabble and Monopoly or whatever.

You know, we'll be playing Magic the Gathering. We'll be playing Starcraft. The original Starcraft. Back to basics. I don't know. Back to basics, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it's an interesting question.

So, touching on the period of flax autobiography, you did actually prepare something for this week's podcast, didn't you? Yeah. I almost forgot about Bodega. Is it time? Oh, man, I think it's time. Okay, prepare yourself, John. All right, I'm ready.

Wait, let me get comfortable. Last week we talked about... Let me recline a little bit. I want to close my eyes and listen to this. I want to close my eyes and listen to this idea for a great story. Sips is just going to doze off halfway into this. Okay, hit me. So PFLAX is prepared.

I don't know what... You'll see. You'll see. Okay. Bodega, part uno. Oh. I'm hoping that this is going to be like Gentleman Broncos. You'll see.

Can we just interrupt any time? Of course. No, feel free. As bars go, the shit rivet tavern took sleazy and redefined the word. A trio of Spurlupian strippers outnumbered the lone customer, but ground the pole on stage with real menace regardless. Hang on. Are you masturbating? No.

Okay, good. I was clapping. I'm not quite there yet. I'm getting closer. Behind the chrome top bar, hunched and moodier than a mork beast, Jargail Floop gazed dully at the tiny vid screen embedded in his left forearm. An empty glass slid down the bar, and with honed reflexes unique to a veteran bartender, Floop caught it, filled it, and returned it with gusto without glancing up.

It was the fifth pint of ale the human in the corner had swigged, but it was five times the business Floop had the previous night, so he wasn't complaining. After his spell, the melancholy was broken when the front doors creaked open. Floop saw four figures in desert clothes, dust masks fastened across their faces, scanning the room from the doorway. Their eyes settled on the human ale swigger at the far end of the bar. They broke formation, two sat at tables either side of the door, one sat a ways behind the ale swiggerigger and the fourth approached the bar with all the cockiness of a Krell sluice the barkeep one beverage

barkeep one beverage ladies choice said the burly interloper nodding towards one of the sput loopians who was taking a break from swinging her big old titties. Oh, shit! Out of nowhere! The Spaloopian titties! Oh, my God! Fuck me! Give him two fingers of fuck monster floop she slurred

oh shit I was not ready I was not floop grinned and poured the black liquor into the traditional phallic drinking vessel and gently pushed it towards the man. Leaning in close, the stranger peeled back his face mask, revealing row after row of razor-sharp, off-world combat teeth.

He had no way of knowing Floop was odontophobic, so it really was just one of those weird coincidences typical of a space saloon. Put the champers away, mister. Can't you see my friend here is odontophobic said the ale swigger from the corner floop looked stunned how could this guy have known about his odontophobia unless bodega said the tooth guy said the tooth guy grimacing it is you you, Bodega, said Floop, turning. He'd not recognized his old compadre and cursed himself for it. Bodega always had money, and he could have charged five

skrells for the ales instead of three. Then it dawned on Floop, if Bodega was here, and these four guys were here, it could only mean one thing. There was about to be one flarve of a good fight. Oh, man. You're coming with us, Bodega, like it or not, One thing, there was about to be one flarve of a good fight. You're coming with us, Bodega, like it or not, said Chompers,

smiling to show off his fancy gnashers. Floop blinked hard. When he opened his eyes less than a second later, the four interlopers lay dead, and Bodega sat finishing the last of his ale. His famous lasgun lay smoking atop the chrome bar. Great moves of Shaboth, you ain't lost your touch, boy, explained Floop. And you're still slower than a Glorbworm with the ales, said Bodega, grinning. He played the fight back in his mind. He'd seen the four fellows follow him, of course,

and had calibrated his lasgun to instantly pierce their Shrovian armor. Just as Chompers had turned to grin at Bodega, he'd taken a shot, refracting the Lasgun beam off those shiny dentures to perfectly strike all three Goombars right in the heart, killing them instantly. Then to finish off the leader, he'd simply angled the Lasgun beam up off the third incisor in row five, lower, and turned the leader's brain into Vomanian swamp noodle soup. Bodega, floop grinning yep said bodega also grinning but laconically bodega said floop still grinning and nodding uh-huh said bodega bodega said floop still grinning okay this was getting weird so Bodega paid and left. The end.

Magnificent. Oh, my Lord. Magnificent, P-Flex. That was amazing. Oh, my God. That was good. Thank you so much. Honestly, I could listen to that for hours. Although, you're going to just...

I've got to readjust myself. The amount of aliens that you created, that universe, is so fleshed out already. Yeah, you know it. You can feel it. You know, Chris Metzen left Blizzard, Flax, and there's an opening for his job. Get in there.

I feel like you could get in there, man. You could be like, you know, their next big thing. But with bad fanfic sci-fi about Bodega. Oh, my goodness. Holy shit. So good. Man, that was really good. God, when you told me that you'd written a short story about bodega i was really excited and i thought i wasn't sure

what to expect but wow there you go delivered you you slammed bodega style oh the spoopy poopy and strippers oh yeah jesus well we know about the speloopian strippers are sassy and they have big old titties oh man yeah that really proper rounded characters you can tell like did you do any sketches to like sort of flesh them out a bit no but I look forward to being tweeted pictures of speloopian strippers and bodega

and bodega as well what do you think bodega looks like well we'll have to figure out what bodega looks like grizzled yeah bold no no bodega is a haired man he might mean he looks like he looks like a We'll have to figure out what Bodega looks like. Grizzled? Yeah, bold. No, no, Bodega's a haired man. He looks like he looks like a dad in his 40s. Does he look like a space dad? No, not at all. He just looks like he's from like 1950s America. Jumper dad. Sort of just... White picket fence dad. Yeah, white picket fence dad. Yeah, with a plaid shirt and stuff. Wow. Your vision of Bodega is, I like it. I kind of want to leave the description of Bodega open so people can.

Yeah, fill it in themselves. Fill in the blanks. Bodega is many things to many people. They can represent themselves. They can see themselves in Bodega. Yeah. Maybe Bodega should actually just have a mirror for a face so that he looks like anybody who's he's presented with so like if you were staring into bodega's eyes actually

be staring into your own eyes i don't think we could top that oh my god so have you done anything else this week what have you guys been up to what have you guys have you been anywhere you've done anything uh man you know what i've been doing all week i've just been playing wow like lots and lots of wow we said we weren't gonna talk about we said we weren't gonna talk about it but that's all i've been doing i've meant to play some more fallout i haven't because i've been playing wow i almost got out of bed but then i played wow yeah i've um i've been playing wow yeah what you've been, Pflex? My youngest daughter started school today. Nice.

Today? So we've been preparing for that. Is it that classic GIF or image of before and after? Do you mean GIF? Yeah. You said GIF. Does that mean we're on the same team now? God damn it.

I've switched team. Where the kid looks really excited to go off to school and then just really exhausted and dead when they come home just overwhelmed it's great that is the beauty of right out fuck it's great so tired is it just like complete overwhelmed with with new information it's like overload sensory overload they have to deal with people who don't want to do anything for them right right so they've got all these kids around them and kids at school some of them are friends but generally speaking they sort of put up with each other and they're kind of sweet for a few years and then eventually they sort of don't like

each other very much i think because you're forced into a classroom with these people for hours and hours at a time yeah some of them are going to be dicks you're just not going to like them they're going to say mean stuff because kids are shits and so early on they're sort of like yeah i've got these new friends and then they gradually like i don't like that guy he stole my lego and that person threw water on me one time and that person spilled paint on my drawing so fuck all those people over there yeah and they sort of develop these little cliques and uh they fall out with each other and stuff so and now she's in the happy stage of school where it's all fun and sweet but eventually she'll be in the uh the hateful i wish i was dead stage of school uh so let's let her enjoy it we all we've all been there right i fucking hated school i mean anytime i felt like that i would simply leave and go play

mario kart yeah exactly i'm out of here like we actually built a little um secret room behind the the main stage in the main uh sort of assembly hall of the school because they put plays and stuff on and there's like an area behind it for lighting and stuff like that and like it's a storage room so we had a couple of guys that were the audio visual they had a little this was while we were at school we're like 15 16 they had an audio visual company that they actually ran and they did av stuff for like talent contests and things in the area all local stuff they've gone on now it's a bigger business but um at the time that's what they did AV stuff for like talent contests and things in the area, all local stuff. They've gone on now. It's a bigger business.

But at the time, that's what they did. And they knew about this place. Nobody else knew about it, but you needed it when you were setting up AV equipment and doing lighting for stages and stuff at school. So we found this area and we set it up. We played poker in there. We'd sit around chatting and, you know, talking shit and everything like that.

It was like our little refuge from school. And if we skipped lessons, we'd go hide in there in there and one day one of the teachers came in mr mr bj hawkins nice and uh no bj sanders sorry he came in and he he we were sort of all chatting away and laughing all of a sudden he's a he was a big guy like he was ex-army he was a big guy and he poked his head in and we were all like oh my god we are fucked. Like BJ has found us. We're in massive trouble. And he just went, oh, you cheeky buggers. And he said, you're not smoking, are you boys?

We went, no, sir. And he went, all right, carry on. And that was that. And we were allowed to keep our little clubhouse. Yeah, it was fucking awesome. It was a happy memory. I mean, we actually had a smoking section at school. And that's where we hung out all the time. Wow.

Yeah, we had picnic tables back there and everything. It was like a designated area for smoking. We didn't get that till college. No, we had that in high school. Like from the age of 14, we had that available. No way. Jesus. So it was pretty nice. Did a lot of kids smoke in your school?

Was that a thing? Yeah. Yeah, surprisingly, yeah. It was really busy out there it was like lots of people out there smoking the world has changed yeah it was i guess it was just the the time or whatever but yeah it was it was fairly popular to smoke back then i guess it's like less so now but i remember like we used to be able to smoke restaurants back then we used to be able to smoke in the mall we used to be able to just walk around it used to be a smoking smoke restaurants back then. We used to be able to smoke in the mall. We used to be able to just walk around the mall smoking.

There used to be a smoking section in McDonald's when I was a kid. Like those little ashtrays. Remember, they'd have the McDonald's M on them. That's right, yeah. Yeah. In the cinema, if you sat at the back, you could smoke. There was a smoking carriage on trains. You could smoke in the back half of an airplane.

Oh, see, I never had that. I've never been on an airplane where they're smoking yeah i remember it i don't know maybe like wow so how did you two both because you i mean i guess you did smoke but then you quit sips and you smoked yeah quit pflex and then you you because sips to be talking about getting a vape again lately oh man getting back onto that crack i just yeah i just wanted it's great i just want to so how did you saying i want to get a vape but actually i think i just want to do drugs what was it what was the first thing that what what was it that got you into smoking was it the classic peer pressure was it that it was cool it was was it that all your friends were doing it what was it

we started smoking basically when we started drinking when we were small so it was we we had the means we were five we had we had people drinking that were able to get like booze and cigarettes for us so right they were gonna go get us booze so we're like oh get us some cigarettes too we were just like whatever we might as well just like get some cigarettes while we're at it so this was in the summer we were like wow we must have been like 13 14 years old these guys got us like a big case of beer like 20 24 beers um and and some like liquor and stuff as well and some cigarettes so we went out into the woods did some portage and found so found a found a place to sit down and camp out the first time you smoke cigarettes

you get like those head rushes as well super bad so really bad we we sat around fucking spinning to that as well but that was really just the start of all of high school basically where all we did i can imagine though drink and smoke that you like sips always like sorry like p-flax always looks super young i think you sips have always looked super old so i could imagine you cycling down to the local shop thanks buying a copy of the bino and a load of cans of cider and just not being id'd not being like yeah no one even like like hey you're a bit old for the bino aren't you it's like i'm 13 i see 13 i think it's very old for the b yeah that is we did all the all

like the pretty typical like growing up stuff you know like we we dare like one of our friends to go in and buy playboy i always buy mr ed weekly which is horse porn jesus christ specialist shit yeah so it sounds like a pretty typical just teenagers rebelling listening to i i think it's like a metal music out in the woods and smoking and drinking yeah i think at that point going into high school we were listening to i think we were at the time um beastie boys like sabotage and all that had come out so we were listening to a lot of that kind of stuff and it's gonna be more different to you know but then we we'd started listening to like hip-hop like early hip-hop as well at the time too so yeah around like 90 93 94 it would have been so yeah it's pretty pretty good times but like a nice nice nice

sort of time to be going to high school and stuff and how did you get into it p flex what was what was because when when i was that age when i was 13 i missed the whole thing i never went to smoking i never really got into is that because you were in the cadets or at boarding school i mean when you're a kid though you're you're at the school as well you're doing so much you've got different groups of friends you're doing different things you're doing all these things that your parents want you to do you're going to you're learning the piano or whatever you know you've got so many no but see that's that's the big difference between mine and your childhoods like my my parents didn't expect me to do anything and didn't make me do

anything so all i did was dick around with my friends in the woods and the parks me and my friends would drink and smoke you know we would we would be trying to get you know red alert to multiplayer or starcraft to multiplayer starcraft one multi-player working on the land that's what we would do when we were 13 you know yeah i mean i did a bit of that too but there wasn't heavy emphasis on that that was like uh well we're, we might as well do this now sort of thing. I'm trying to think back. I kind of did. If we weren't like grounded or anything like that.

Were you in a cool kind of club, a cool group of friends who sort of, it seems to be like the cooler people who ended up smoking. I don't know. My parents both smoked uh my mum quit my dad quit ages ago um and then when i got to about i guess i would have been about 14 or 15 i sort of you know people are starting to smoke and stuff like that and uh there were lots of girls around and stuff and you're starting to get into that wanting to be cool uh stage i had i had no cool thing going for me at all my hair was terrible like even when i had hair it was awful mrs f always says i'm glad you went bold because

your hair was fucking shocking one thing to say oh you know she's the one when she says something like that she says you look better bald because your hair was shit so i'm like okay so um like i look back at pictures of myself there and it's just a picture of a young man with no idea what's going on on top of his head. It's just, it's out of control. It's like a riot. It's like kid and play. Yeah.

But without that signature coolness, you know, without some of the people that are going to try and copy, it's just people just notice it. And it's like, huh, that guy's got terrible hair. So. Man, imagine shaping your fro like that though. That'd be incredible.

You must feel so satisfied. You're going to have to Google that. Yeah, good luck Googling that, kids. What? Google it right now. Kid and play. I bet you it comes up. Kid and play.

It's not and. It's just the letter N. Kid and play. There's the picture. And you do images. There they are. There's that fucking tubular fro yeah the guy everybody remembers the other guy could they could put anybody in that picture and you wouldn't we wouldn't know you just go yeah it could be no

he was in a bunch of stuff they're movies they had movies kid and play and kid and play 2 house party and stuff like that right house party yeah that was good movie there's a lot of sex in that movie i always thought of them as being kind of uh for the kids but they went i'm looking at i'm doing a google image search for kid and play and like just a random steve urkel has turned up in the i'm not sure i feel about that this has got the same vibe and carlton banks is in there as well yeah it's that era but uh so i just kind of you, in an effort to, I had disparate groups of friends. I had my nerdy friends that I played games with and stuff like that.

And I had my cooler friends who I hung around with and my totally uncool friends that I hung around with. And I kind of, I was just, I was pretty easy going. Was smoking for you something that was very, very easy to pick up because your parents had smoked and therefore you'd had a lot of secondhand smoke or whatever already. And you kind of, it was automatically something nice for you yeah to get into yeah it was hard work i had to really get into it like i remember my mom had some uh

some old menthols lying around oh yeah those menthols there's always you always got menthols from somebody's mom yeah like she had them like in the place or whatever it was like in a drawer i found them i was like oh shit she must have forgotten about these so i i like she was out at work she used to work late a lot so my sister was in bed and i was like i'm gonna fucking smoke a cigarette so i lit it up and i immediately got the worst head rush imaginable because i was like i hit this thing really hard because it's minty so you can do that you get that really gross minty taste like in the back of your throat mingled in with cigarette taste as well so bad but i was like i'm gonna i'm gonna get a good at this shit and i i gave me such a bad head rush i was literally

floored like i could barely move i was so dizzy i was like oh my god what have i done because i didn't know this was pre-internet so you can't google anything you're just on your own in the living room just think I'm dying. Yeah, I was like, oh my God, is it poison or something? So then I was okay. And I was like, hmm, maybe I need to persist with this and get better at it. So I kind of just started smoking. Then my mum saw me smoking around the back of the house.

And she was like, he's smoking. And my sister was like super impressed. So I was like, yeah, this is cool. We had like my mum got this big can that she put on the front step so that when people came over if they smoked like there wouldn't be butts all over the place and this just can was just filled with like disgusting cigarette butts like my mom didn't like that we smoked but she knew that we were just going to anyway sort of thing so she was just like whatever just get a fucking can i guess and they stink though like dumb asses yeah

they stink they really do yeah do you dread the day when you're gonna have to deal with the baby versions of you and nah not really i did it because it's a lot of it's so harmless like there's so so much like emphasis placed on it but like people are just gonna do whatever they're gonna do like it doesn't really matter why would i tell them you're not allowed to do the stupid shit i did that in the end turned out to be harmless like i'm not saying you know i'm not saying that i want them to do like anything ridiculous but most of that stuff that seems rebellious when you're a kid is really stupid when you look back in hindsight it's like geez that was like nobody was impressed it was just ridiculous yeah but it is actually if you're walking around smoking to other 15 year olds who are not smoking and haven't yet got to because that's only like

that's not that i mean you're still a kid right no offense to any 15 year olds out there but you really are so when you when you're impressed oh wow oh so and so smoking yeah and i remember the the hard kids at school would be smoking at like 12. And I'm thinking, fuck me, they're hard. They smoke. Like that was such a big thing. So I don't know. You know, what they're gonna do. It was such an easy in to like,

to talk to people and meet new people though, right? Like if you, cause if you bumped into somebody that you recognize from school that you'd never spoken to before and they're smoking, you could just go up to them and be like, oh, hey, do you have an extra cigarette?

And then just start talking to them.'s like such an easy such an easy in with people it's like drinking before you're allowed to drink or before getting booze is easy i think it still is that it still is this very social thing where you meet other smokers and yeah i think that's one of the things tom told me about why he likes smoking, because you end up just stood outside somewhere, talked to someone else. Yeah, talking to people, yeah. You have no idea about the smoking culture that goes on at workplaces. Because you get to know all the other smokers when you go outside for the smoke break, and you have a separate little office sort of uh clique going on yeah that just doesn't exist for all the non-smokers and you all shit talk each other and it's like it's it's a fun little

adrian and tom and harry have got that going yeah the smokers club yeah this yeah do they all go really quiet when you step outside like you open the door to come outside and it's like just stone quiet like you guys ever talk to each other while you're out here? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Hey, Lewis. Yeah. Yeah.

Sometimes. Yeah. Not always though. That's exactly what it's like, Simps. Yeah. So where did you quit? What was it that made you quit eventually? And how hard was it?

Having kids made me quit because I didn't want to get the secondhand smoke and stuff on the babies. And it was easy i just stopped because i had a really strong motivator and then it wasn't until a friend of mine came around with a vape and was like you should try this this is great and i was like oh this is amazing i can smoke in the house it doesn't smell there's no secondhand smoke i was like this is it i'm hooked and so yeah that was that so a vape dad was born i think i stopped when i was like 20 or 21.

I think I just like, just got sick of it. Cause I just felt like shit all the time. Yeah, it is so bad. Like when you quit. It really is. Like you get sick all the time when you smoke as well. Yeah, like colds and stuff. You've always got a cold.

Like it's, yeah. And they go straight to your chest every time. I got pneumonia like when I was like 18 or something. Like, and I think it was just from, from yeah it's really really fucking bad yeah it's pretty brutal yeah like that's that's how like when people say vaping is as bad as smoking or it could be stuff i i having been a smoker for a long time i know this is not as bad for me i know it's not good for me yeah but i know it's nowhere near i i feel nowhere near as bad as it did when i was smoking i think it's weird though because if if you have smoked you always feel compelled to smoke in social situations especially like where there's alcohol so like if i go to a party or something

and somebody's smoking like i'll smoke then yeah like even now i will sometimes but uh you know like in my day-to-day life i don't sort of thing it's weird I don't know that's the thing I guess you're sort of like addicted for life you'll never get rid of it yeah you never never leave it it's like a bad habit but at the same time I think the body is very very good at healing you back up but very good at replacing and yeah flushing you out there's certainly some evidence to show that if you do quit smoking early enough it doesn't have any major impact on your life i heard it takes 10 years to heal the damage done by regular smoking that's what i heard probably something along those lines isn't it that sounds like the amount of time it takes chewing gum to go through your body i don't know if they did this

over here but like um you know when when they started banning smoking in public places and restaurants and stuff in canada um there was like this big push to sort of get people to stop smoking right and what they started doing is on packs of cigarettes they'd put like these health warnings say like you know smoking can kill you smoking causes cancer and stuff like that and then they had those for a couple years and then they went a step further after that and they started putting pictures of like people's teeth after like they've been smoking for a long time pictures of like their lungs after they've been smoking like some of these pictures were fucking gross like you know it'd just be like this mouth of like black teeth with like blood everywhere and stuff and because i'm sure i don't know like i mean i haven't lived there for a while

now so i have no idea but i used to see on cigarette when i was there like i think they've stopped it because it was just it was just gruesome yeah it was just too much i don't know it's like it's a little bit too much yeah but i i don't i'm not sure like how well it worked you know like i just remember we you know we'd be at somebody's house and there'd just be packs of cigarettes everywhere with these fucking gruesome pictures and nobody would even blink an eye. It almost just became like, it doesn't register as a picture. It almost just looks like that sort of part of the artwork of the pack of cigarettes sort of thing. It's really weird.

When it comes to vaping, it's got to be difficult because we don't really have a huge amount of evidence you know to to what what it looks like after 50 years you know we've got pretty good evidence to show what happens to you if you smoke for 50 years because people have been doing it for hundreds of years whereas vaping is quite a new thing you know what i like now two cigars i never really used to like them but like if i have the opportunity to smoke a cigar like i will i don't know why it's just like it's just fun to smoke a cigar it is i think it's just got a fun attachment to it it's like it's like a james but it's like something bodega might do you know yeah yeah bodega you could imagine just like slamming out a big stogie just like letting it burn right down but just like playing with it in his teeth yeah just looking looking over down looking over down the end of his nose towards

you know with the dark eyes hooded towards that. It's Bablupi. He's just come in. He's eyeing him up. Yeah. Looking for a fight. And he wants like, he wants a pint of finger fuck. But Podega's like, no way.

Not my watch. That was so magnificent. His teeth with lasers. Thank you. I'm still reeling from that. We'll do a part dos. Oh, I can't wait oh and then we'll assemble them all i think we should see it's like old school um sci-fi used to be serialized in

these magazines yeah short stories yeah they put them all together into a book eventually so if we keep i mean there's enough there flax where we could totally expand on it and make a game and everything like maybe a movie franchise netflix original series the whole thing yeah let's not think about that yeah bodega bed sheets and a duvet cover let's not be okay let's just take it take it one step at a time here guys we just need to get into the second chapter first and people might hate bodega you never know people might be fuck this bodega guy this is the worst thing this sci-fi is the worst i've ever read and uh it's a mockery it's a mockery of sci-fi it's like it's like bad tng episodes nah i thought it was really good um before we um before we leave as well we finished our second games of hearts of iron four finally oh it took forever it was fun uh but we're

we're planning another one aren't we yeah oh yeah we want we want some uh suggestions from you from your out there for what kind of suggestion yeah i read a suggestion and i don't know if you guys would be up for it but it might be interesting if one of us was common turn one of us was axis and one of us was allies but we just one of us was Axis, and one of us was Allies. We just started a completely different, you know, just whatever you want to do, but you have to commit to being that way aligned or whatever. And then just see where the game goes sort of thing. Yeah.

Could be fun as well. We might knock each other out of the war. Maybe. I do like playing together, though. We'll see. It is fun to play together. But I mean, maybe if we play together again, we should take countries that aren't close together. You know what I mean?

So that we have to sort of like fight our own corner and then slowly link up. Yeah, maybe. That might be fun. Yeah, that might be fun. So we finished recording that yesterday. Won't be on Team Double Dragon for a little while, actually, because we've got a lot of WoW Legion going out and also the editors are really, really busy and we're going away and stuff.

So this podcast is a bit flaky, but, you know, I think we'll be... I'm not sure I will be able to do one next week because I'm going to go to EGX, but we might be able to record it on a different morning. Yeah. We're very busy. So, yeah, thank you for listening to this podcast

and supporting it, guys. Cheers. Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. It's really nice. We'll see you next time bye