Triforce! - Triforce! #221: Shout, Knock, Rattle, Shove, Flashbang
Episode Date: May 26, 2022Triforce! Episode 221! Our boomer parents are coming down so we're on our best behaviour, Lewis remembers his teenage invulnerability and Sips and Pyrion cry watching adverts. Support your favourit...e podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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                                         Hello there.
                                         
                                         Welcome back to the Triforce
                                         
    
                                         podcast. Thank you for joining
                                         
                                         us once again. I am Gandalf
                                         
                                         the Grey.
                                         
                                         One of my favourite things on the calendar every week this is.
                                         
                                         He loves it.
                                         
                                         To catch up with my two favourite dads.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And, you know, pick their brains.
                                         
    
                                         Second and third favourite dads.
                                         
                                         Your dad should be your favourite dad.
                                         
                                         True.
                                         
                                         Oh, I completely forgot about my dad.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So my dad's coming down tomorrow actually he is um he's coming down
                                         
                                         with my mom yeah are you gonna see him they well they independently booked to go to the van gog
                                         
                                         go interactive exhibit that i went to fucking last week come on really yeah so i went there
                                         
    
                                         last week and i thought it was awful and And I talked about it on this podcast.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I talked about it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         It was, they obviously, I don't know.
                                         
                                         I don't know if they're fans, if they just felt like an excuse to come down,
                                         
                                         if they like got caught up in the, it's got good marketing or something.
                                         
                                         I don't, I don't rate it.
                                         
                                         It's got to have good marketing, right?
                                         
    
                                         Like if you went and now your parents are going,
                                         
                                         like they've been just marketing the shit
                                         
                                         out of that thing.
                                         
                                         Yeah, a couple of my friends have been, independently.
                                         
                                         I don't know whether it's dropping ads or something.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         It's probably TikTok ads.
                                         
                                         That's where they would have seen it, for sure.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, they would have seen it on the Tok.
                                         
                                         Or is it called-
                                         
                                         Do people call it the Tok or the Tick?
                                         
                                         I call it the Tok.
                                         
                                         It's gotta be the Tok, right?
                                         
                                         You can't call it the Tick, because the Tick is already reserved by- there's a to be the talk right you can't call it the tick because i the the tick is already
                                         
                                         uh reserved by there's a superhero called the tick there is yeah and uh there's a uh real arsehole
                                         
                                         of an insect called the tick as well that's true and also are they insects i'm not sure if they're
                                         
    
                                         insects or something else they gotta be i don't know what the hell else they would be. They look very insect-like. It's probably like an arthropod. An arthropod?
                                         
                                         What's an arthropod?
                                         
                                         Is that a thing?
                                         
                                         I don't think it's an arthropod.
                                         
                                         He goes to a Van Gogh museum and he thinks he's a rocket scientist.
                                         
                                         They're arachnids!
                                         
                                         No, they're arachnids!
                                         
                                         Yeah, but they're spiders, isn't it?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, it's different, isn't it?
                                         
                                         I mean, they're clearly not spiders.
                                         
                                         They're arachnids.
                                         
                                         No, but arachnids are like, generally...
                                         
                                         Oh, scorpions are arachnids then, I guess, as well.
                                         
                                         I think they're scorpids.
                                         
                                         Maybe they're arachnids, I could be wrong.
                                         
                                         I think they're scorpids. I think they're arachnids. I think they're arachnids. I think's like arachnids are like generally oh scorpions arachnids
                                         
    
                                         then i guess i think they're scorpions maybe they're arachnids i could be wrong is it something
                                         
                                         to do with the amount of legs that they have or something so arachnids don't go down into that
                                         
                                         rabbit hole it's pretty spooky it won't take long it won't take long a class of joint-legged
                                         
                                         invertebrate animals in the subphylum.
                                         
                                         Chelicerata.
                                         
                                         Arachnida include, among others, spiders.
                                         
                                         That's probably the noise they make.
                                         
                                         Chelicerata.
                                         
    
                                         Chelicerata.
                                         
                                         Spider scorpions, ticks, mites, pseudoscorpions,
                                         
                                         harvestmen, camel spiders, whip spiders, and vinegaroons.
                                         
                                         I don't know what a vinegaroon is.
                                         
                                         It sounds like one of the guys who would hold up a stagecoach.
                                         
                                         It's I, Vinigaroon!
                                         
                                         Jogging the Vinigaroons!
                                         
                                         Vinigaroon.
                                         
    
                                         Ludicrous name for an animal.
                                         
                                         It's probably horrible, though.
                                         
                                         I just looked at a picture. It's horrible.
                                         
                                         It's like a spider scorpion.
                                         
                                         Your dad's on his way down.
                                         
                                         My dad is here already.
                                         
                                         My mum and dad have been here
                                         
                                         for a couple of days now and uh i have happy pappy lovets i have been dadding it up like there's no
                                         
    
                                         tomorrow man i'm like a i'm a taxi service i'm a chef yeah are they old enough that you now have
                                         
                                         to like to drive them everywhere and technically no but it still somehow works
                                         
                                         out that way so right you know there you go it's just uh it's one of those do you answer the phone
                                         
                                         you know hello jersey taxi service is that your like little yes that's that's my yeah that's my
                                         
                                         my little dad banter yeah i yeah no i i No, I wouldn't do that because I feel like it would be triggering, you know,
                                         
                                         for the person on the other end of the line, you know?
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         It's like it's being too sassy, you know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                         Oh, I see.
                                         
                                         It's being too aware.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         It's realizing that they're an imposition on you.
                                         
                                         Maybe it's being like too
                                         
                                         edgy or something you know wow this is uh you've turned over a new leaf are you on like super nice
                                         
                                         mode at the moment yeah i don't know i just i feel like uh like every time my parents visit i i feel
                                         
                                         like um i reference this often but i just find it so funny uh i don't know if you remember the
                                         
    
                                         father ted episode where they kick bishop brennan up the arse and he's just like stunned for like a week.
                                         
                                         He's so shocked about it.
                                         
                                         He can't fucking believe that it's happened.
                                         
                                         And he's just in this like state of shock.
                                         
                                         He can't function.
                                         
                                         He's like a zombie, right?
                                         
                                         That's what I'm like when my parents come over.
                                         
                                         I'm just like that the whole time they're here.
                                         
    
                                         I just like can't believe what's going on.
                                         
                                         Like I can't believe how's going on like i can't believe
                                         
                                         how um much hassle like i'm i'm given like you know what i mean it's just like i just have all
                                         
                                         these extra things to do and stuff so don't you feel like here's the thing when my mom that my
                                         
                                         parents being divorced the last time they were in the same room was when i got married so and then
                                         
                                         they're gonna when my sister gets married this year that's the next time that they're going to be in the same room.
                                         
                                         So they have not shared a room.
                                         
                                         Wow, your sister's getting married next year?
                                         
    
                                         No, she's getting married this year.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         Sorry. Yeah.
                                         
                                         So they have not been in the same room.
                                         
                                         So I always get them independently
                                         
                                         and it's a very different experience.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And don't you find that specifically
                                         
    
                                         when your mum comes up to stay,
                                         
                                         because we've had my dad here to stay. He very chill he just basically sits there like a plant and sort of chills and you know
                                         
                                         chuckles and chats to the kids and watches tv my mom is very different um she's like wants to be
                                         
                                         doing things if something needs doing she won't just let you do it she starts doing it my mom is
                                         
                                         nearly 80 and i want her to sit down and relax and enjoy
                                         
                                         life and not do the fucking washing up the moment that the last fork has touched the plate
                                         
                                         and everybody's finished dinner she's like like i don't know how she like teleports to the sink
                                         
                                         and she's doing i'm like please don't do that hey we have a dishwasher and b you keep breaking stuff
                                         
    
                                         so uh don't um so But you can't say that.
                                         
                                         I know, but the thing is, I've decided like Sips,
                                         
                                         being that stunned state,
                                         
                                         after a couple of days of sort of getting used to the fact,
                                         
                                         especially if she's here for like a decent chunk of time,
                                         
                                         I just sort of ignore her when she's doing that stuff.
                                         
                                         I just tune her out when she's having some boomer opinion.
                                         
                                         And this is what gets me when people call me a boomer
                                         
    
                                         when you spend time with actual boomers you realize oh my god that's why people don't like
                                         
                                         boomers because they never stop fucking booming they really don't oh man it's just like when the
                                         
                                         older they get too they just get so locked in their ways you know and they just cannot handle
                                         
                                         the fact that life is moving on like quickly without them you know
                                         
                                         they're just definitely my my dad has some some sometimes comes out with something slightly dated
                                         
                                         and i'm i'm i'm always like look at that colored fellow over there lewis yeah you can't it's weird
                                         
                                         though i don't know if you have this kind of relationship with your parents but like i
                                         
                                         wouldn't challenge mine you know what i but like I wouldn't challenge mine.
                                         
    
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Like I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, well, you see, the thing is actually like I just wouldn't like I don't want to have.
                                         
                                         I used to, but it doesn't sink in.
                                         
                                         Yes, that's the thing.
                                         
                                         The rigidity of their brain is maybe getting old.
                                         
                                         Your brain starts to harden and new ideas. I'm the same.
                                         
                                         I've tried before, but it just like i might
                                         
                                         as well slam my head into a wall they'll go oh interesting oh no maybe you're right but then
                                         
    
                                         they'll express the exact same opinion 10 minutes later like you never had this conversation so i
                                         
                                         just gave up i just gave up or or the classic and maybe your parents don't do this but mine do from
                                         
                                         time to time they like they almost like throw it back in your face too you know like you'll be talking about something or something will go not in your favor uh relating to
                                         
                                         the opinion that you expressed and then they'll kind of turn around be like see he told you so
                                         
                                         told you you shouldn't have trusted those people or whatever and you're just like okay fuck it's
                                         
                                         like it's this one really isolated specific thing all all right? You didn't get me. You have not got me.
                                         
                                         Like, it's just-
                                         
                                         I'm not gotten.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, man.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I think there's obviously certain, like, landmarks, right, in our history where we've kind of
                                         
                                         become accepting of certain things, right?
                                         
                                         And I think, you know, racism is still a thing, definitely, but's a lot but the older generation now pretty much
                                         
                                         aren't too problematic with that i think the previous generation were a little bit
                                         
                                         and now i think then it became like you know sort of a broad acceptance of gay people and
                                         
                                         um now it's becoming a broad acceptance of trans people but i think like that that's another 20 years from
                                         
    
                                         now right we are going to see you know problems with old people being biased these ways because
                                         
                                         it takes a long time for it to filter through for them to die out is what it is yeah i i think like
                                         
                                         but some things like hating immigrants seems to be pretty persistent oh yeah that's all the rage
                                         
                                         i'd say like no one we haven't i think broadly i think society has
                                         
                                         not broadly accepted that you know yeah immigrants are not bad like there's always
                                         
                                         they're very easy to blame i mean here's the thing that every country in europe has problems with uh
                                         
                                         like you know immigrants in terms of certain political parties will be running on a platform of
                                         
                                         there's too many of them they should go home? We were kind of ahead of the curve on that
                                         
    
                                         with Brexit, because that was, regardless of what people say, that was a big factor,
                                         
                                         was that we didn't have control of our borders and stuff like that.
                                         
                                         Now, just to correct something, and I'm sure I'll get some fucking posts about this. When we pushed,
                                         
                                         and it was us pushing when we were in the EU to get Eastern Europe into the EU,
                                         
                                         everybody else in Europe set hard limits on the number of people from those countries
                                         
                                         that could move to their countries within a certain timeframe.
                                         
                                         Everybody.
                                         
                                         We didn't.
                                         
    
                                         Under Labour, they were like, I don't think that many will come.
                                         
                                         And like two to two and a half million people came here from places like Poland
                                         
                                         and all the other Eastern European countries.
                                         
                                         And Tony Blair subsequently said, we had no idea it was going to be that many. We just fucking dropped the ball on it. here from places like poland and and all the other eastern european countries yeah and tony blair
                                         
                                         subsequently said we had no idea it was going to be that many we just fucking dropped the ball on
                                         
                                         it that influx of people flip people's minds because as much as people like to think that
                                         
                                         conservative just means fiscal policy or you don't like brown people or whatever a lot of the time
                                         
                                         it's just people who don't like change they want everything to to remain the same from when they were younger all the way to when
                                         
    
                                         they're older.
                                         
                                         The same, the same, the same.
                                         
                                         They want to conserve the status quo.
                                         
                                         And when you suddenly drop two and a half million people from outside England into England
                                         
                                         or Britain, then it freaks some people out and they can't handle it.
                                         
                                         I don't think there's ever been a problem in places like London or Bristol or other
                                         
                                         big cities.
                                         
                                         Bigger cities for sure, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Rural areas, I can't imagine it would be so much of a problem either
                                         
                                         because I know maybe this is the case in the UK as well,
                                         
                                         but certainly in Jersey, the agricultural industry is hinged
                                         
                                         on the fact that immigrants do come over and will work those jobs like yeah i i i'm
                                         
                                         generalizing but i'd say most people uh who are born and bred locally uh when they leave school
                                         
                                         want to work in like an office or a bank or you know whatever right is the the kind of you know
                                         
                                         um job of of the day sort of thing.
                                         
                                         And not many of them are queuing up to go work in fields and stuff like that.
                                         
    
                                         But you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Like a lot of seasonal workers from like Romania, for example.
                                         
                                         The money doesn't go as far.
                                         
                                         It doesn't go as far. Well, yeah, they'll come over here and they'll work those jobs.
                                         
                                         And they're absolutely essential.
                                         
                                         Like we just wouldn't have any food to harvest.
                                         
                                         This stuff is like...
                                         
                                         The thing is, this has happened in every country, and it happened in America, and then the idea
                                         
    
                                         was that the seasonal workers would...
                                         
                                         The thing that happened in America was they put up this wall to stop people coming in.
                                         
                                         They need them so badly.
                                         
                                         But the seasonal workers came in anyway, but then they couldn't get out that was the thing
                                         
                                         and so they ended up staying because it was too much faff to go home and come back and go home
                                         
                                         because over here i know a lot of it like a lot of their um like the bigger farms especially the
                                         
                                         ones that are sort of like part of like the the big co-ops and stuff they have like you know
                                         
                                         lodgings they have everything they've got all these systems for paying them seasonally, but then I think there's systems
                                         
    
                                         to pay them beyond that, to incentivise them to come back next season, and all sorts.
                                         
                                         They really have had to put all this stuff together to get people over.
                                         
                                         I think immigration, this whole thing is...
                                         
                                         It's like this idea of veiled racism right i watched this documentary about about it's really interesting
                                         
                                         it's a wild wild country it's on netflix it was out a while ago is that the one where the
                                         
                                         thumbnails got like a guy with a beard yes i know nothing about it except for there's a indian
                                         
                                         okay yes yeah well so he's this Indian guru, like all Indian gurus,
                                         
                                         who seems to get loads of Western followers
                                         
    
                                         into his sort of slightly offbeat spiritual guidance.
                                         
                                         And, you know, people go to India and they have a spiritual awakening
                                         
                                         and they fucking meditate and shag each other and, you know, the usual, right?
                                         
                                         And so what happened was he obviously was pushed out of India
                                         
                                         for tax evasion or whatever.
                                         
                                         This is wild, wild country, right?
                                         
                                         So we literally spoke about this like 20 episodes ago.
                                         
                                         Did we?
                                         
    
                                         I mean, literally half an hour discussion.
                                         
                                         That's why I must be recalling it.
                                         
                                         Just in case we wanted to not do it again.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         I can't remember talking to you about it, but basically I watched it.
                                         
                                         There's one bit where, so they settle in Oregon next to this like tiny town of like 40 people and it's so funny because
                                         
                                         there's this bit in the documentary where basically the the 40 people of antelope are so
                                         
                                         kind of racist against any kind of immigration but at the same time so they're saying like well
                                         
    
                                         they've got like a concentration camp going on there you know
                                         
                                         they're like hitler and then the other the other side you know the the hindus they're sort of the
                                         
                                         indians or the religious followers are like we're being persecuted right they're like hitler and so
                                         
                                         they're instantly it's both jump to call each other hitler. And you can totally see it from both angles, right?
                                         
                                         In a sense.
                                         
                                         It's kind of like a cult, but it's not a cult.
                                         
                                         And it's problematic, but it's not problematic.
                                         
                                         It's a bonkers story.
                                         
    
                                         It really is.
                                         
                                         But it sums up the...
                                         
                                         I think it's an exaggerated vision of...
                                         
                                         I mean, for example, I remember we were...
                                         
                                         I was talking about this on stream maybe last year, and I was
                                         
                                         going around some random, I was trying to find
                                         
                                         towns in England
                                         
                                         specifically that were like really
                                         
    
                                         crappy places to live, like Doncaster
                                         
                                         and places like that. No offense to anyone from Doncaster,
                                         
                                         but it's a dump.
                                         
                                         It's a good example of one of the worst places.
                                         
                                         And I was just going around on Google
                                         
                                         Street View, and you'd be surprised how
                                         
                                         many of these places where you think no one's going to come to Britain and move to Macclesfield or whatever
                                         
                                         they do and on the high street there's all Polish shops and there's like halal butchers
                                         
    
                                         and just walking around you see people that are clearly from outside the UK just you know the way
                                         
                                         they dress or the way they look or the shops that they go to and I think for a lot of those towns
                                         
                                         they were like they're taking over.
                                         
                                         And if you are a plumber and suddenly you're competing with Polish plumbers,
                                         
                                         those people freak out and they're like, this is not fair.
                                         
                                         The thing is that we're going to find is that when all those people are booing out
                                         
                                         or told to leave, the prices for everything are going to go through the fucking roof.
                                         
                                         And that is certainly the case.
                                         
    
                                         Things have gone up in my experience.
                                         
                                         Things have become more expensive trying to get stuff done.
                                         
                                         And I mean, you know, to whose benefit is this?
                                         
                                         I guess this is great for the plumbers, but it fucking sucks for everybody else.
                                         
                                         And I know food costs have gone up partly because of the war and inflation, a bunch
                                         
                                         of other reasons.
                                         
                                         But things are just more expensive.
                                         
                                         We have to fucking import everything now.
                                         
    
                                         And a lot of the stuff that we were growing that we're exporting, we can't fucking export
                                         
                                         it now because, you know, they're going to gonna get from somewhere else so it's a big fucking
                                         
                                         shit show but i think at its root it really came down to the fact that people just don't like
                                         
                                         foreigners turning up taking in fucking jokes that's it and yeah i get it but like uh at the
                                         
                                         same time i don't like it just it doesn't make any fucking sense i don't know i don't know i think america
                                         
                                         that prides itself on being built of they've got such a short memory do you mean they they they
                                         
                                         were built out of immigrants a couple of hundred years ago and that's the thing germans scandinavians
                                         
                                         you know people from britain and italish and immigrants are slightly suspicious i mean
                                         
    
                                         when the italians turned up they were like oh this is close to the line you know why would you leave
                                         
                                         italy it's perfectly nice there man oh man yeah i don't know it is america for americans and that's
                                         
                                         how they defend it as well they're like well i just want there to be americans here it's like
                                         
                                         well i mean it's a they call it like dog whistle politics, right?
                                         
                                         When they talk about real Americans, what they mean is white Americans a lot of the
                                         
                                         time and stuff like that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         People don't count, where are you really from?
                                         
    
                                         But we do the same thing over here.
                                         
                                         I remember when I was at school, there were like, I mean, it was in Bournemouth.
                                         
                                         So there were, let me think, one, two, three non-white kids in a school of a thousand kids,
                                         
                                         right? Which is unimaginable
                                         
                                         in london you would have to specifically close the gates of the school uh or a whole bunch of
                                         
                                         places in britain really i mean the idea of going to like bradford and having a school of a thousand
                                         
                                         kids and three of them are not white is like well you had to do this deliberately um but bournemouth
                                         
                                         was just a place where it was just a very very white place and. And people would always ask, where are you from to these kids?
                                         
    
                                         And they'd be like Bristol or whatever.
                                         
                                         You know, they would say where they were from.
                                         
                                         No, no, where are you really from?
                                         
                                         Like that's a that's an implied thing is if you are not white and you're in a country that is majority white, you must have snuck in somehow.
                                         
                                         We don't really belong here.
                                         
                                         You know, you're just visiting sort of thing.
                                         
                                         So as the numbers of those people start to go up, people feel their country is being being taken over and that's why we get all this bullshit it's uh it's crazy yeah it sounds like
                                         
                                         an innocent question but it it isn't you know especially if you ask it to someone who isn't
                                         
    
                                         white in a white place you know i mean yeah it's a it's a funny it's easy for people to like i'm
                                         
                                         sure people are culturally aware
                                         
                                         and they'll say, oh, my family's originally
                                         
                                         from Hong Kong or somewhere.
                                         
                                         But, you know, I think that said
                                         
                                         with a strong Bournemouth accent.
                                         
                                         Right, Mush, yeah.
                                         
                                         For example, like, if you meet someone
                                         
    
                                         and they've got a strong accent,
                                         
                                         if they've got a strong accent,
                                         
                                         I'll ask them where they're from regardless.
                                         
                                         Because it's interesting.
                                         
                                         Like, we had some neighbours move in recently.
                                         
                                         They had a very strong Scandinavian accent.
                                         
                                         I couldn't tell if it was, it was very strong. I couldn't tell if it was Danish or
                                         
                                         Swedish. And I aired on the side of Swedish. I said, are you guys Swedish? They were like, yes.
                                         
    
                                         I was like, wow, that's awesome. And we chatted a bit about Sweden and stuff.
                                         
                                         I'm perfectly comfortable asking them that question because they have a strong accent,
                                         
                                         but the black lady that lives down there, I'm not going to be like, where are you from?
                                         
                                         Because she'd probably be like, fucking Fulham, you idiot. What are you talking about?
                                         
                                         Yeah. going to be like where are you from because she'd probably be like fucking fulham what are you talking about yeah but if she had a really strong african accent like our other one of our other
                                         
                                         black neighbors it's it's a it's not a particularly diverse neighborhood twickenham it's it's pretty
                                         
                                         good but not by london standards but i asked her where she was from she's from somewhere in africa
                                         
                                         north africa um and you know that she's got all kinds of stories about about what it's like living
                                         
    
                                         there and the difference from fucking twickenham to like i think she's from morocco um and it's like
                                         
                                         completely different as you can imagine that's an interesting conversation i don't think there's
                                         
                                         any there's no fucking problem asking someone where they're from if they have a strong accent
                                         
                                         but the idea that just by the color of their skin they must be from somewhere else is it's a it's
                                         
                                         it's context of the conversation as well you know like if you're If you're having small chat with somebody and they're saying like,
                                         
                                         oh, yeah, I remember when I was a kid, we used to go here and stuff.
                                         
                                         And you're like, oh, where are you from?
                                         
                                         You know, like it doesn't come across as bad.
                                         
    
                                         You don't open with that.
                                         
                                         You're open or being, where are you from?
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         You don't look like you're from here.
                                         
                                         Like, where are you from?
                                         
                                         You must be from Christmas.
                                         
                                         Far over sea.
                                         
                                         Over water that never ends.
                                         
    
                                         Man, I love the caveman.
                                         
                                         I love the cave.
                                         
                                         We should just do caveman podcast.
                                         
                                         Where are you from?
                                         
                                         Go back home.
                                         
                                         Go to Fulham.
                                         
                                         I have had an interesting tweet, gents.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
    
                                         Is it from a stripper?
                                         
                                         Go for it.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Hello.
                                         
                                         Stripper here.
                                         
                                         I listened to the podcast while I get ready for work and found your discourse
                                         
                                         on strip clubs very interesting slash entertaining i'll say if you guys are ever on the gold coast
                                         
                                         for christ's sake don't let lewis into a strip club i love that line oh man don't worry we won't
                                         
    
                                         we're never taking this guy to a strip on the On the Gold Coast. You've got our word.
                                         
                                         You have our word on it.
                                         
                                         I'm not ready for any of that.
                                         
                                         He's not ready.
                                         
                                         I've never been ready.
                                         
                                         You know me.
                                         
                                         Thank you, though, for getting in contact.
                                         
                                         Honestly, you never know.
                                         
    
                                         We never know who's actually...
                                         
                                         We don't know what we're saying.
                                         
                                         We don't know what we're doing.
                                         
                                         But more importantly, I would never have thought a stripper would be listening to the Triforce podcast.
                                         
                                         I don't know why.
                                         
                                         I don't even remember what I said as well.
                                         
                                         God.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         This is so embarrassing.
                                         
                                         I feel like this is, you know how like there's this big debate going on in the world about the overturning the Roe versus Wade abortion thing, right?
                                         
                                         Right, right.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         How half of American states are basically still
                                         
                                         hostile to abortion like it's the fucking 1960s again right and but the problem is we get all this
                                         
                                         spillover here like we get we're getting angry on behalf of this american dumbassery and we talk
                                         
    
                                         about this a lot on trifles but it's weird how a lot of us get upset about these things that
                                         
                                         happen in america even though it's a very different place it's weird but it isn't though because when you think of like uh like uh the west
                                         
                                         like western society um you know like a lot of a lot of countries who share the same kind of
                                         
                                         ideals as america do towards you know capitalism and all that other fun stuff. I think that, I think America
                                         
                                         are so under the microscope because people are looking to see what is happening there because
                                         
                                         there's such a huge part of anchoring the West where it is. You know what I mean? Like, if you,
                                         
                                         if America didn't exist, it'd be tougher for like – for the West to sort of maintain the West.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                         Like they have like this tremendous military, intelligence service, all these things that like happen behind the scenes that we just sort of benefit from, I guess.
                                         
                                         You know, their influence and their size and all that kind of stuff.
                                         
                                         You know, when you think that there's other really big, like powerful countries out there
                                         
                                         that, you know, if America didn't exist, would have a lot more influence than they do now
                                         
                                         sort of thing.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         I mean, we don't take much of a cue from like Germany, do we?
                                         
                                         But I mean, America certainly is a big influence.
                                         
    
                                         Somebody would, if not for America, somebody would have to step up and be the big brother of the West.
                                         
                                         Well, let's say America was still Britain. If we still owned America,
                                         
                                         we just had the United States and Britain. I guess we'd be in charge. We'd be fucking
                                         
                                         ridiculously enormous.
                                         
                                         I guess you're right.
                                         
                                         We do definitely take our cues from certain nations.
                                         
                                         I think it's automatically osmosis
                                         
                                         from American culture and American things that happen.
                                         
    
                                         In a way, we should try,
                                         
                                         and some people do try and use Scandinavia,
                                         
                                         and maybe we should be using Germany as more of a model,
                                         
                                         sorting out, giving people student student actually grants to to go to university and i
                                         
                                         think in germany you don't don't pay to go to uni is that right i don't know i know i don't know
                                         
                                         they have a different school system this is going from uh german lad i spoke to so any germans
                                         
                                         listening i apologize if i've got this wrong i'm'm not saying this is correct, but this is the gist of what he told me, was that you get to a certain point in
                                         
                                         your schooling. So the equivalent of like in America, high school over here, secondary school.
                                         
    
                                         And at a certain point, you branch. All the kids are siphoned off into certain pathways.
                                         
                                         So you go into more of an arty school, you go into more of a technical school,
                                         
                                         science or vocational or whatever.
                                         
                                         And at that point, it's essentially it's decided, look, you're not going to cut it as a physicist or a mathematician.
                                         
                                         So we're going to push you into a more of a vocational qualifications like engineering and stuff like that.
                                         
                                         And these kids who are like more academic, we're going to push them more into academic qualifications.
                                         
                                         And the kids who just want to fucking paint and do fashion or whatever, they're going to go down this road.
                                         
                                         So that's something that we've pushed against.
                                         
    
                                         Like, if you think about school now, you can certainly was the case when I was at school.
                                         
                                         You had to you had to wait until you were taking your A levels before you really started to specialize.
                                         
                                         So you were still learning things that essentially you had no interest in, weren't good at, and
                                         
                                         wouldn't need when you went to university.
                                         
                                         You were still teaching kids those things rather than allowing them to focus on it.
                                         
                                         It is bizarre.
                                         
                                         Which is odd because I know that one of the arguments against taking some kids
                                         
                                         and not teaching them about, say, Shakespeare, is that it's seen as gatekeeping people from
                                         
    
                                         certain backgrounds, mainly working class backgrounds, being told, say, Shakespeare, is that it's seen as gatekeeping people from certain backgrounds,
                                         
                                         mainly working class backgrounds, being told,
                                         
                                         no, no, we're going to push you into plumbing or whatever at 15
                                         
                                         because that's all you're good for.
                                         
                                         But I think that the idea that telling kids
                                         
                                         who don't have an interest in that thing,
                                         
                                         don't worry, we're still going to teach you Shakespeare
                                         
                                         and art and music and history.
                                         
    
                                         And they're like, I don't care about any of this shit. I want to get a job. And I want to learn how to do that.
                                         
                                         It's essentially you're denying people the opportunity. So if you said to kids,
                                         
                                         at 15 or 14 or whatever age, they have to make that decision. You have to choose now. Is that
                                         
                                         fair? Because that's my daughter in two years, say, or three years. Does she have to decide
                                         
                                         her future? Well really it really depends on
                                         
                                         the environment that she's being brought up in i feel like if you're 15 years old and you're
                                         
                                         you're desperate to go out and and work it's because there's not a lot of disposable income
                                         
                                         right being thrown around your house to begin with uh which just limits a lot of your your
                                         
    
                                         scope and your opportunities right like if you're if Like if you live in a house where your parents both are only just scraping by sort of thing,
                                         
                                         you are going to, at some early point in your life, think,
                                         
                                         if I want to do anything, I've got to go out and earn some money and work, right?
                                         
                                         And for a lot of kids, if school is not doing something for them, they want to get out.
                                         
                                         It's liberating to be working.
                                         
                                         Let's get them back into work.
                                         
                                         Get them to work, I'd say.
                                         
                                         I mean, I don't recall the last time I saw a 10-year-old working.
                                         
    
                                         Who can do good needlework.
                                         
                                         Put them to work.
                                         
                                         Yeah, they got those small little fingers and stuff.
                                         
                                         They'd be really...
                                         
                                         Sew up some soccer balls and wallets and stuff. No like yeah like my chimney is really blocked up there's my shoes need shining
                                         
                                         someone needs to bring me my newspaper i don't know you definitely bump into people who you know
                                         
                                         the moment they leave school will just start to work.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I've met tons of people like that.
                                         
                                         That's most people, I think, in all honesty.
                                         
                                         But you do also meet people who sort of, not really flounder around, but you know,
                                         
                                         they have the luxury and the opportunity to spend some time figuring it out.
                                         
                                         And then, you know, they start working when they're in their 20s instead, for example.
                                         
                                         There's always those people you think, how are you affording to just not do anything
                                         
                                         all the time?
                                         
                                         And then there's those other people who have had like a full time job and gone to uni and
                                         
    
                                         done it since they were 16.
                                         
                                         Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         And being like, and are still doing it.
                                         
                                         They're like, oh, yeah, I'm just doing my PhD and I've still got this full time job
                                         
                                         that I'm doing in like, and it's like what the heck yeah some people just are absolutely amazing
                                         
                                         yeah um and i have huge respect for those people who've who've done that because i worked in
                                         
                                         sainsbury's for two years as a when i was at uni and it was horrible i hated it it was very hard
                                         
                                         and to try and do do both i wanted that extra disposable income yeah but you if you're a student
                                         
    
                                         at the time it's a bit different because you're just like i you know my my my the scope of my life
                                         
                                         is is very limited right now like i i just go to school which is probably already paid for whatever
                                         
                                         but i need like you know money to eat or to go out or, you know, whatever to pay my subscription to World of
                                         
                                         Warcraft, whatever, you know, you need some money, right? But like, it's a little bit different when
                                         
                                         you become an adult and, you know, you're still working a job like that. And everything is just
                                         
                                         constantly going up and it's just harder and harder and
                                         
                                         harder for you to do everything you need to do right like fucking people who have to end up
                                         
                                         getting like a second job to supplement and and all that kind of stuff that that that's hard as
                                         
    
                                         hell like it's just and it's such a it's such a rut to get into and it's so hard to get out of it
                                         
                                         you know what i mean like it's it it really sucks. I think if you have the opportunity to, you know, to do something a bit more like out of the ordinary or whatever, you can start working later because your parents can help you do that.
                                         
                                         Or you can go to university for something that's not, you know, like something like like art or whatever you know what
                                         
                                         i mean that's not guaranteed to just bring in money immediately but you know in the long run
                                         
                                         could be crazy that's great but not everybody has that you want to do like i think when you're young
                                         
                                         and you've got no responsibilities that should be the time to gamble not when you're older and
                                         
                                         you have responsibilities and hopefully a mortgage and fucking kids and stuff like that that's when it's much harder yeah the decisions you make become much harder
                                         
                                         yeah whereas when you're 20 21 and you fucking have a go have a go it's something that you
                                         
    
                                         desperately want to do you'll you'll have the energy to work long hours and work your balls
                                         
                                         off and go for it that's yeah that's your chance to that's i mean that is not everyone has that
                                         
                                         opportunity even even at that age but i think
                                         
                                         that you know you're i think we're you're supposed to i think sometimes when you're that age as well
                                         
                                         you you just kind of are washed along you've got your own priorities you're worried about
                                         
                                         your appearance and you're worried about my appearance constantly well my head does well
                                         
                                         onlookers for example i think teen as a teenager I didn't really think about or feel like I felt about those things.
                                         
                                         I was vulnerable and brilliant.
                                         
    
                                         Wow, you had a very different teenage life to, I'd say, most human beings.
                                         
                                         You were invulnerable when you were a teenager?
                                         
                                         That's how you felt?
                                         
                                         I think a lot of teenagers think that they they'll live forever yeah i think yeah but i'm talking about the crippling social anxiety and and fear of looking
                                         
                                         foolish in front of other people and those are all much more teenager-y things yeah those are
                                         
                                         very teenager-y things well i had all those as well you said you just felt invulnerable well
                                         
                                         do you mean purely from any well he had uh he had like the the skater wallet chain and the frosted
                                         
                                         tips and stuff.
                                         
    
                                         So I think that contributed to the invulnerability.
                                         
                                         He probably thought.
                                         
                                         Nothing can break me, dude.
                                         
                                         No one when they're 16 is thinking about getting married and having.
                                         
                                         No, you're right.
                                         
                                         You're right.
                                         
                                         Teenage boy anyway is thinking about life and actually like the jobs that you will end up, you know, the drudgery of the day to day.
                                         
                                         Well, some, but that's the thing.
                                         
    
                                         Like I'm saying, like if you, you know, like I feel like people who immediately go out
                                         
                                         into work because they have to probably are a bit more aware of that ahead of time than
                                         
                                         others, right?
                                         
                                         Like it's.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I've got some emails if we're ready for that it's a
                                         
                                         little early oh yeah hit me i'm definitely down to listening to what the listeners have dug up this
                                         
    
                                         time okay so we got a guy mitchell mitchell has emailed uh me emailed us a couple of things first
                                         
                                         of all do you remember your album club that you started up sips yeah well he started his own back
                                         
                                         in 2019 with his mates they've been doing an album a week. Yeah.
                                         
                                         And he says it's expanded his selection of bands and artists.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         But there's only two of them left now.
                                         
                                         Yeah. But they keep it up.
                                         
                                         You loved it when you were doing that.
                                         
    
                                         I loved it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I want to do it again.
                                         
                                         I don't.
                                         
                                         It just, it's one of those things that everybody has to really make an effort to keep doing.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         It's one of those things that's very easy to just get lazy
                                         
                                         with you know one week and then miss a week and then never come back to it yeah but um i want to
                                         
    
                                         i want to do it again for sure because there's just so many so many albums like old and new you
                                         
                                         know what i mean like it was just we we were listening to all sorts like we were we were
                                         
                                         tending towards more sort of like classic rock albums, but we were talking about all sorts of stuff at the time.
                                         
                                         And even just through talking about older albums, I was introduced to some newer music as well, which was nice.
                                         
                                         Like what's her name?
                                         
                                         Adele.
                                         
                                         Adele, that's it.
                                         
                                         The one that you like.
                                         
    
                                         Adele, his favorite.
                                         
                                         Yes, gosh.
                                         
                                         I'd say the number one topic for emails this week appears to be bathrooms.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Because I talked about
                                         
                                         not having a lock.
                                         
                                         So, first of all,
                                         
                                         I did forget one detail
                                         
    
                                         that I discovered
                                         
                                         when I went down to the bathroom
                                         
                                         after the podcast,
                                         
                                         which is there is a lock
                                         
                                         on the bathroom door,
                                         
                                         but it broke.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         So, we did used to have
                                         
    
                                         a lock on the door,
                                         
                                         but I just can't figure out
                                         
                                         how to fix it
                                         
                                         and I just can't be bothered
                                         
                                         to get a new door handle.
                                         
                                         Turns out a lot of people
                                         
                                         have weird fucking opinions about bathrooms, including it's true so so this guy says yeah
                                         
                                         you mentioned knocking this is mitchell still as a method of checking if a bathroom is occupied
                                         
    
                                         and he's in college at the moment and he's noticed that over the last four years on his campus
                                         
                                         nobody knocks before trying to get in the bathroom it's just on the handle yeah yeah when it doesn't
                                         
                                         open they give up uh i always knock if i see a closed door especially if it's just on the handle yeah yeah when it doesn't open they give up uh i always knock
                                         
                                         if i see a closed door especially if it's a door where you would expect someone to be doing
                                         
                                         something behind it whether it's my daughter's room she might be getting changed or something
                                         
                                         yeah all right yeah absolutely like first it's like a shout then a knock i just go rattle and
                                         
                                         if they go oh no i'm in here okay no problem yeah like there's a tier list right there right
                                         
                                         shout knock rattle like this and then just And then kick down the door and charge in.
                                         
    
                                         Get a kick.
                                         
                                         You've got a Kool-Aid man your way into every situation.
                                         
                                         It goes shout, knock, rattle, hard shove, and then flashbang entry.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And check your quarters.
                                         
                                         Roll a flashbang.
                                         
                                         You've got to put the little mirror under the door.
                                         
                                         Mirror, robot the flashbang before me
                                         
    
                                         like their rooms are a fucking mess jesus can't even open the door sometimes this has already
                                         
                                         been raided there's no looted here somebody has somebody has already done this. So here's an email from Frank,
                                         
                                         which is not a name you hear as much anymore.
                                         
                                         Shout out to Frank.
                                         
                                         Let's give Frank the big up this week, actually.
                                         
                                         Big up to Frank.
                                         
                                         Big up to Frank.
                                         
                                         What a name.
                                         
    
                                         One day when I was 10 years old,
                                         
                                         I was using the downstairs bathroom near the living room
                                         
                                         when my elementary school crush
                                         
                                         unexpectedly showed up with her mother
                                         
                                         to sell Girl Scout cookies.
                                         
                                         Since they were our neighbors,
                                         
                                         my parents invited them in. I should note that the downstairs bathroom fan was extremely loud due to birds making a nest inside of the vent for the fan.
                                         
                                         So twigs and weeds would slap against the blades of the fan, making it very obvious when someone was within.
                                         
    
                                         Now, I will say, Frank, without going on, that's the fine detail about your bathroom fan that your neighbor's daughter might not be aware of.
                                         
                                         Just saying.
                                         
                                         My entire family came out to select their favorite cookies while I was in the bathroom.
                                         
                                         And recognizing the voice of the girl and her mother, I dare not step out of the bathroom,
                                         
                                         basically announcing my shit to my crush.
                                         
                                         So he didn't want to come out of the bathroom with her there, because certainly when you're
                                         
                                         young, you don't want to let anyone know that, yes also shit yeah like that's certainly yeah yeah so i elected to stay in the bathroom but how long
                                         
                                         could they stay anyway they stayed for over an hour and a half every moment i weighed just stepping
                                         
    
                                         out as waiting another 10 minutes would make it look like i was in a fight for my life or just
                                         
                                         this is some larry david shit isn't it i figured they would think it was empty, so I took the risk and stayed hidden.
                                         
                                         They finally left and were able to deduce who was in the bathroom,
                                         
                                         so the mother said,
                                         
                                         have a nice day and I hope Frank is okay.
                                         
                                         At school the following day,
                                         
                                         it instantly spread that I take hour and a half long shits
                                         
                                         and must be terribly constipated.
                                         
    
                                         Luckily, the girl and I went to separate schools
                                         
                                         and the room had died.
                                         
                                         So, Frank, that's dreadful. I feel very i feel very sorry you would have never lived that one down had you gone to the
                                         
                                         same school you would have just been known as constipated frank man mr constipator like
                                         
                                         for the rest of your life the constipator that's the new marvel legend. Yeah. God, yeah. That's the next one. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be shit.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         There was a mention of him in Marvel issue number 52 back in 1971.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         They had an after the credits.
                                         
                                         He had an after the credits appearance in Morbius.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Fuck's sake.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         That's a good email.
                                         
                                         I did see a few complaints of bathroom related
                                         
                                         not complaints you know but thoughts let's just leave it there you got any more i do i have one
                                         
    
                                         from rochi uh a long-time listener uh first time writer um he says we talked about uh the three
                                         
                                         word naming system for maps and oh yeah and you suggested that we should name people that way by
                                         
                                         picking three random words and he would just like to point out that we should name people that way by picking three random words.
                                         
                                         And he would just like to point out that we already do that.
                                         
                                         We're the first, middle, and last name.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but they're not unique, are they?
                                         
                                         Good point.
                                         
                                         Oh, I suppose they are unique.
                                         
    
                                         Literally do already do that.
                                         
                                         We already do do that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you're right.
                                         
                                         I was streaming the other day,
                                         
                                         and Bournemouth got promoted
                                         
                                         to the Premier League again,
                                         
                                         which was great news.
                                         
                                         We beat Nottingham Forest 1-0.
                                         
    
                                         It was a close game,
                                         
                                         but we got there.
                                         
                                         It's been a bizarre season.
                                         
                                         We're in the Premier League again
                                         
                                         next season,
                                         
                                         which is very exciting.
                                         
                                         But I got talking about
                                         
                                         the time that I went
                                         
    
                                         to Gillingham in Kent,
                                         
                                         not Gillingham in Dorset,
                                         
                                         but Gillingham in Kent
                                         
                                         for an away game.
                                         
                                         And it was a miserable experience.
                                         
                                         It was a late winner for Gillingham, sent us home with nothing. And the people but Gillingham and Kent, for an away game. And it was a miserable experience. It was a late winner for Gillingham,
                                         
                                         sent us home with nothing.
                                         
                                         And the people of Gillingham,
                                         
    
                                         troll-like as they are,
                                         
                                         came out from their
                                         
                                         houses and to the end of the street
                                         
                                         to throw the wanker sign.
                                         
                                         Go home! Go home, wankers!
                                         
                                         To give us the wanker sign
                                         
                                         and chase after the bus, slapping it and shouting
                                         
                                         all the way out of Gillingham.
                                         
    
                                         And these people must have been listening on the radio.
                                         
                                         It was not outside the stadium.
                                         
                                         This was as we're driving out of Gillingham.
                                         
                                         People were coming to the end of the road to pick,
                                         
                                         to give us the finger and everything as we,
                                         
                                         as the coach was leaving.
                                         
                                         I'll never forget that Gillingham.
                                         
                                         And I told them that I was delighted to see that they'd been relegated.
                                         
    
                                         And I hope Andy Hessenthaler is burns in hell. Cause in hell because I think he was the guy who scored the goal.
                                         
                                         He was a fucking dickhead.
                                         
                                         I think I drove through Gillingham once.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's a shit hole.
                                         
                                         Gillingham.
                                         
                                         This guy, Lewis, his name is Lewis.
                                         
                                         He says he likes the Triforce, blah, blah, blah.
                                         
    
                                         I see you slagging off Gillingham on Twitter and I concur.
                                         
                                         I'm a long suffering Pompey fan
                                         
                                         haven't been to
                                         
                                         Priestfield
                                         
                                         their ground needs
                                         
                                         condemning
                                         
                                         yes it's true
                                         
                                         he says it's a shit hole
                                         
    
                                         and the tannoy is awful
                                         
                                         and the announcer
                                         
                                         had the audacity to say
                                         
                                         here is your
                                         
                                         dockyard derby
                                         
                                         because
                                         
                                         I don't know why
                                         
                                         they said that
                                         
    
                                         but Portsmouth
                                         
                                         obviously is a port
                                         
                                         I don't know if Gillingham
                                         
                                         is or that it was inland
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         it's on the Thames
                                         
                                         isn't it it's like along the is it? whatever I don't know if Gilliam is or that it was inland. No, it's on the Thames, isn't it?
                                         
                                         It's like along the...
                                         
    
                                         Is it? Oh, whatever.
                                         
                                         I don't remember.
                                         
                                         It was nighttime.
                                         
                                         Can I ask a quick question
                                         
                                         just for my knowledge banks?
                                         
                                         I'm data.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I was wondering,
                                         
    
                                         have you ever become misty-eyed
                                         
                                         or even shed a full tear
                                         
                                         whilst watching a football match?
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         I mean, when England got knocked out of the World Cup,
                                         
                                         you know, that was bad.
                                         
                                         When we lost the Euro final,
                                         
    
                                         when we lost the Euro final,
                                         
                                         I was crying, my daughter was crying.
                                         
                                         It was heartbreaking.
                                         
                                         It was heartbreaking.
                                         
                                         When we, you know, missed out on the playoffs one time,
                                         
                                         this was early on in my time supporting Bournemouth.
                                         
                                         We failed to finish sixth because we couldn't,
                                         
                                         I think it was Walsall at home either way.
                                         
    
                                         We failed to win this game that would have got us into the playoffs.
                                         
                                         Shed a small tear there.
                                         
                                         And also when we got promoted, when we beat Lincoln 5-2,
                                         
                                         this would have been going from League 2 to League 1.
                                         
                                         There were many tears of celebration.
                                         
                                         What are some, just out of interest,
                                         
                                         like you've admitted to crying during football and stuff like that.
                                         
                                         Understandable.
                                         
    
                                         Some people are very passionate about football and other sports and stuff.
                                         
                                         But what are some odd things that you've cried at in your life that you can remember?
                                         
                                         Adverts.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I'm the same sometimes, right?
                                         
                                         Adverts.
                                         
                                         Yeah, especially those ones.
                                         
                                         I remember,
                                         
    
                                         I think I was tired at the time because like,
                                         
                                         this is normally a factor.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think I was super tired
                                         
                                         at the time or,
                                         
                                         and I think it was like
                                         
                                         right after my son was born,
                                         
                                         our firstborn was born.
                                         
                                         But remember that,
                                         
    
                                         that fucking Google ad
                                         
                                         for Gmail
                                         
                                         that was on like a long time ago.
                                         
                                         And it was like a dad sending emails to an account
                                         
                                         that he'd set up for his son who then grew up into a man and read all these emails that his dad
                                         
                                         sent him right that had me on my ass i was like i was like fucking i don't know what the hell was
                                         
                                         wrong with me like i watched it again like a couple days later and i was fine but like the
                                         
                                         first time i saw that i was just like oh my god i cried all kinds of stupid yeah it's weird i watched you know the
                                         
    
                                         fucking uh murder on the orient express they remade it kenneth branner it was dreadful yeah
                                         
                                         and me and mrs f were watching that and laughing at how bad it was at the end michelle pfeiffer
                                         
                                         gives this very impassioned speech i was crying crying my eyes out like a fucking baby. I hated that film.
                                         
                                         I thought it was shit.
                                         
                                         But her performance was so good.
                                         
                                         And Michelle Pfeiffer was so good.
                                         
                                         I was crying about her performance because it was a really impassioned speech.
                                         
                                         Very moving.
                                         
    
                                         And I thought, man, this fucking film sucked.
                                         
                                         And Mrs. F was like, are you crying at Murder on the Orient Express?
                                         
                                         And I was laughing and trying not to show that I was crying
                                         
                                         but I was really crying.
                                         
                                         So yeah,
                                         
                                         it's just one of those things.
                                         
                                         It gets you.
                                         
                                         The movie Up,
                                         
    
                                         Pixar's Up,
                                         
                                         you know that first,
                                         
                                         like the kind of like
                                         
                                         the start of the movie
                                         
                                         where you see like
                                         
                                         the childhood sweethearts
                                         
                                         get married
                                         
                                         and you see their life together
                                         
    
                                         and they're trying to have children
                                         
                                         and they can't have children and they get older and older and then you're making me feel like a psychopath
                                         
                                         which is the whole premise for the the rest of the movie right right yeah oh my god like i don't
                                         
                                         think i've ever cried so much whilst watching a movie in my life and i felt really embarrassed
                                         
                                         too because it was like a fucking i think everybody cried like yeah um but i mean i saw it before i had kids as well so i'm just like i'm an adult sitting
                                         
                                         there with my adult wife like just bawling my fucking eyes out there's all these kids
                                         
                                         with i think crying in movies is is fine like they're very emotional it's very it's overwhelming
                                         
                                         cry at an epic like i've said this before i cried
                                         
    
                                         in lord of the rings when the uh the army of the dead all came out and the army of the dead that
                                         
                                         bit was the worst bit oh no i don't know why i just teared up charging down the hill that was
                                         
                                         great but the fucking army of the dead was teared up i just thought man this sucks just ghosts
                                         
                                         ghosts i'm enjoying that i'm enjoying the old i mean i'm I don't know, epic moments get me teary-eyed. Revenge,
                                         
                                         and people getting their comeuppance.
                                         
                                         Yeah, there's some really epic moments like that, that I can't think of off the top
                                         
                                         of my head. But I've certainly seen a couple of movies where I know I've been a bit emotional,
                                         
                                         and rooting.
                                         
    
                                         I get wrapped up in the swelling epic music as well.
                                         
                                         The fantasy music, that gets me.
                                         
                                         I think music too.
                                         
                                         Music gets me all the time.
                                         
                                         Yeah, music a lot.
                                         
                                         So Lewis continues that he thinks Pompey
                                         
                                         are the biggest team on the South Coast,
                                         
                                         which is fucking hilarious.
                                         
    
                                         Portsmouth is a fucking dump.
                                         
                                         And your team fucking sucks.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         If I never go to Portsmouth again,
                                         
                                         it will be a life well spent. you gotta like you gotta have some friends
                                         
                                         you've already you've already made an enemy of gilligan you need allies is this thing working
                                         
                                         fuck off i feel like this is such an english thing like that you know like i i he doesn't
                                         
                                         mean it he doesn't mean it he likes
                                         
    
                                         gilligan he goes to kfc or whatever you got maybe it's like this in canada but i don't remember it
                                         
                                         being like this in canada but like i i don't ever remember hearing a conversation having conversation
                                         
                                         where people like fuck you toronto you fucking city of cunts like fucking stupid ass toronto
                                         
                                         football thing isn't it yeah it's like very like any any conversation i heard
                                         
                                         around sports when i was younger and maybe it's because i was younger so people were watching
                                         
                                         themselves but it was always very sort of passive aggressive you know it's like oh yeah you ready
                                         
                                         for the habs to lose again tonight and stuff like it was never like fuck you montreal fucking stupid
                                         
                                         ass you know what i mean like i feel like in England, they just don't hold back, man.
                                         
    
                                         If somebody supports a side that's not yours, it's just like, you're just all guns blazing.
                                         
                                         I think it's all surface level, but unfortunately, that all blends into a deeper level, and then
                                         
                                         you get people who don't really understand that it's not serious you know and they
                                         
                                         unfortunately the average football fan
                                         
                                         isn't the sharpest
                                         
                                         you know tool in
                                         
                                         the shit
                                         
                                         just saying
                                         
    
                                         who's keeping their tools in a shed and expecting them to
                                         
                                         remain sharp that's all I'm saying
                                         
                                         you know it's a fucking shed
                                         
                                         and it's not the sharpest tool in the shed well get a better shed
                                         
                                         may your blades never dull because if you leave them out in the rain they get all rusty
                                         
                                         they will dull but uh if you have a shed to protect them from the elements they will dull
                                         
                                         less but most sheds are dumps you've been in a shed would you want to live in a shed i'm saying
                                         
                                         if you said he's not the sharpest tool in the well-appointed and well-tended workshop,
                                         
    
                                         then I'd be interested.
                                         
                                         The sharpest knife on the knife rack.
                                         
                                         Knife rack.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         He's the sharpest. He's not the sharpest knife on an otherwise well-kept rack of knives.
                                         
                                         But all of those knives are pretty sharp, though.
                                         
                                         That's the thing.
                                         
                                         It's still a knife.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, that still has an edge to it.
                                         
                                         Not the sharpest knife
                                         
                                         in the drawer well you're keeping your knives in a drawer they all have some sort of standard
                                         
                                         whereas i feel like a tool shed you can have a wide array of different tools for all the different
                                         
                                         jobs right so you will find some really really dull blades in there true i mean for example not
                                         
                                         the sharpest tool in the shed or the what is? The brightest tool in the shed? Which one is it? It's the sharpest knife and the brightest tool.
                                         
                                         What's the brightest spark one? The brightest spark in the...
                                         
                                         In the darkness.
                                         
    
                                         Firmament.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         Had another filing email from Arvid.
                                         
                                         When are we going to move past the filing?
                                         
                                         I don't know, dude. The thing is, I was thinking about this. It's no offense to
                                         
                                         any filers out there. I know you guys are listening.
                                         
                                         It's a boring job a lot of the time.
                                         
    
                                         Shout out to the filer massive.
                                         
                                         It's a boring job.
                                         
                                         They're going to listen to the podcast.
                                         
                                         Our audience is made up of people doing menial work that is boring.
                                         
                                         Except for the stripper that tweeted us.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         Man, imagine she's just got like some earbuds in while she's like doing
                                         
                                         some dances and she's just listening to us
                                         
    
                                         can you forward that email as well over
                                         
                                         just for interest
                                         
                                         the filer?
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         what do you mean the tweeter?
                                         
                                         she tweeted at you you goob
                                         
                                         what the stripper?
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
    
                                         I don't use my twitter
                                         
                                         he doesn't use it
                                         
                                         he's got people to do it for him he's like an American politician Sips at Yogscast Lewis. I don't use my Twitter. He doesn't use it.
                                         
                                         He's got people to do it for him.
                                         
                                         He's like an American politician.
                                         
                                         I'm banning it.
                                         
                                         He's got staff.
                                         
                                         I'm embargoing it.
                                         
    
                                         Let's carry on with this email. What are they?
                                         
                                         What about filing?
                                         
                                         They just said that their biggest fear is hackers.
                                         
                                         Because now they're moving over to digital.
                                         
                                         Previously, it was about keeping the files
                                         
                                         in a safe location to avoid
                                         
                                         fire. Now,
                                         
                                         the problem is cyber hackers and cyber
                                         
    
                                         security. They're trying to get servers that are
                                         
                                         secure because if you store all your stuff
                                         
                                         on a server and there's a fucking horrible
                                         
                                         break and everybody wipes the server
                                         
                                         or burns it to the ground or whatever, you've
                                         
                                         lost everything as well.
                                         
                                         The idea that it's safe is obviously wrong.
                                         
                                         It's not safe.
                                         
    
                                         It's just in one thing.
                                         
                                         It's on one server.
                                         
                                         So really compressing everything down to fit on a server,
                                         
                                         you've now got a server, I guess.
                                         
                                         But you can always have backups.
                                         
                                         That's the thing once it's digital.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I guess your Bitcoins, you've got to put them on.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         That's the worst thing about this, the digitization and everything, isn't it?
                                         
                                         That it could all just be lost in a flash.
                                         
                                         But in the same way, the archives can burn down in a fire,
                                         
                                         and that's happened for centuries.
                                         
                                         So we've lost plenty of records over the years due to mold or people,
                                         
                                         like leaks, someone doesn't go in and it's all fucking ruined.
                                         
    
                                         And I don't know. and it's it's all fucking you know ruined and i don't know is it is it what's what's worse i feel like it's got to be safer just to have like digital backups like in three different places you know you have like cloud storage man that's it
                                         
                                         then it's stored all over the place right yeah like you know when you have the mirrored hard
                                         
                                         drives or whatever you know the striped like the raids where you you can't lose your stuff because
                                         
                                         it's all stored on both hard drives at the same time right right yeah yeah i mean i'm sure one of the breaks you just
                                         
                                         swap it it's kind of a very low chance you know it's like if it's like a one percent chance your
                                         
                                         hard drive will fail sure that's really terrible but if it's like two one percent chances it
                                         
                                         suddenly becomes very very very secure yeah yes that's exactly that's how it works so i got an email an email from Emily saying that she lives in the States.
                                         
                                         She thinks most people listening to the podcast probably are British.
                                         
    
                                         So a lot of this stuff is kind of a bit lost on her, but she's intrigued anyway.
                                         
                                         But she said that she also listens to the podcast in the States
                                         
                                         and she works for a hardwood flooring company
                                         
                                         and travels to jobs all over the Mormon ethno state of Utah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I thought that was an interesting way of putting it.
                                         
                                         It sounds like a faction in Stellaris or something.
                                         
                                         The Mormon ethno state.
                                         
    
                                         Watch out for the Mormon ethno state.
                                         
                                         They tend to come around on turn 500 and they do a clean wipe of the system.
                                         
                                         And they do a clean wipe of the system.
                                         
                                         So she says that this job only paid $12 an hour.
                                         
                                         And it was so bad that she almost lost her house.
                                         
                                         But she's moved in with her girlfriend in Washington. And things are now stable.
                                         
                                         Nice.
                                         
                                         She appears to have a cool job.
                                         
    
                                         And she's happy.
                                         
                                         Thank God.
                                         
                                         That's good.
                                         
                                         Thank you for the email.
                                         
                                         You can have the big ups instead of Frank.
                                         
                                         Frank lost his big up because his story was...
                                         
                                         I can't even remember it.
                                         
                                         So sorry, Frank.
                                         
    
                                         I'm stripping you of the big up.
                                         
                                         It was the Larry David story, Sits, about the pooping.
                                         
                                         Oh, shit.
                                         
                                         Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                         You know what?
                                         
                                         Emily and Frank, you can share the big up, okay?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         That's good of you.
                                         
    
                                         That's good of you.
                                         
                                         That's such a dad thing to do, isn't it?
                                         
                                         You've got two kids.
                                         
                                         You could share it.
                                         
                                         Just share it.
                                         
                                         I've got another email from Flynn.
                                         
                                         He says a bit about Brandon Sanderson.
                                         
                                         I'm not going to dip into that again.
                                         
    
                                         Apologies.
                                         
                                         I think we've talked about that enough.
                                         
                                         So we were talking about television show intros
                                         
                                         and how people tend to skip them.
                                         
                                         And he makes a good point.
                                         
                                         The issue is that you don't have to read the introduction to the
                                         
                                         book at the start of every chapter that you read you think about a tv show being divided up into
                                         
                                         chapters which it is you don't go back and read the intro and look at the cover again between
                                         
    
                                         everyone so i'm glad flynn brought this up because i've been watching uh better call saul
                                         
                                         right new season that's which he mentions continue the mentions, continue. The intro to that, I think is perfect.
                                         
                                         It's like not even 10 seconds long.
                                         
                                         It's just like one little tune with like some interesting imagery or whatever.
                                         
                                         And it's done.
                                         
                                         I can't, you can even skip it if you wanted to.
                                         
                                         It's so short.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
    
                                         Just, that's fine.
                                         
                                         I think every other show should use that as a benchmark for the first episode of the of the first series do a big intro
                                         
                                         and we'll watch it and you know watch the music and stuff but then just make a really condensed
                                         
                                         version of the music for all subsequent episodes so barry is a very short intro if you haven't seen
                                         
                                         the show barry which i recommend i think there's a new series coming out soon that's a really good
                                         
                                         show the intro is like just some music the word Barry, and then we're back into it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because once you've seen, like, for example, I know we talked about Severance.
                                         
    
                                         It is a really good intro.
                                         
                                         It's very clever.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it is.
                                         
                                         It's very good.
                                         
                                         But you kind of don't want to watch it every single week.
                                         
                                         No, of course not.
                                         
                                         Especially with these shows that start off ahead of the credits, then run the credits,
                                         
                                         and then the rest of the show continues.
                                         
    
                                         It's like having an ad break right in the middle. And I understand sometimes it's put there to sort of wipe the
                                         
                                         slate clean before we move to the next scene. It's like a mental palate cleanser. You have the
                                         
                                         opening scene, you're like, ooh, and then palate cleanse, and then we're into the show. It feels
                                         
                                         like sometimes it's that. So I think in terms of ideas for introductions, short and sweet,
                                         
                                         punchy, short and sweet punchy short
                                         
                                         and sweet it should get me excited for the show or it should get me ready for oh this is gonna
                                         
                                         be a big one you know it gives you chance to go and then you're into the show i don't want
                                         
                                         fucking one minute flouncy music and people's fucking names i don't give a shit i know they're
                                         
    
                                         in the show well i've watched 20 episodes of this now i like i like how kirby enthusiasm starts as
                                         
                                         well i actually really like uh always as well, but the condensed version.
                                         
                                         Because the music's kind of funny, but I just like how it super cuts into it sort of thing.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Curb Your Enthusiasm has the very brief Curb Your Enthusiasm with the music,
                                         
                                         and then it just sort of fades out as the episode starts, which is fine.
                                         
                                         Is this guy saying that books should have an an intro chapter like a catch-up chapter and that you can skip
                                         
                                         no he's saying the opposite he's not saying that he's saying that the reason that we don't care for
                                         
    
                                         um introductions like that are long is because it feels like you're moving on to the next chapter
                                         
                                         and this is especially true if you're watching a show in a binge watch where you're like watching eight episodes in a weekend or whatever you don't want
                                         
                                         to have to watch the intro every time so his point is that you need to either punchify the intros
                                         
                                         or make them something you don't want to have to struggle through because oh another minute of this
                                         
                                         shit because his point is you don't need a introduction to the show i'm watching the show
                                         
                                         do you know what I mean? Right.
                                         
                                         I see.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         You know what you've signed up for.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         He's saying, you know, it's like if you're in the middle of a book, you don't go back and read the intro.
                                         
                                         You haven't just turned it on, like on telly, because no one does that anymore.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's the changing way we consume content.
                                         
                                         Indeed.
                                         
                                         Indeed.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That's it for emails this week.
                                         
                                         Wicked.
                                         
                                         Man, I've been on the topic of TV shows.
                                         
                                         I've been catching up with that.
                                         
                                         This is going to hurt or this is going to probably hurt or whatever that show is called.
                                         
                                         My wife calls it Trust Me, I'm a Doctor.
                                         
                                         We can never remember the name of the show, but it's a good one.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's good.
                                         
                                         It's that one that's written by the NHS guy. Oh, This is Going to Hurt? Yeah, I think that's good. It's that one that's written by the NHS guy.
                                         
                                         Oh, this is going to hurt?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think that's it.
                                         
                                         That's Adam Kay?
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's really good.
                                         
                                         Very gory.
                                         
    
                                         Really gory, but it's very, very good.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         The book was excellent.
                                         
                                         It was done not as a drama like this,
                                         
                                         but this is a good way of telling the story dramatically. It was done more of a, literally,
                                         
                                         almost like you were reading his
                                         
                                         diary of what had happened that night yeah um so yeah really really really sad and funny and
                                         
                                         interesting and i saw a lot it got a lot of criticism but i think the criticism was uh
                                         
    
                                         i have i have heard the book as well didn't realize it got criticism i thought i just i
                                         
                                         think it's been excellent but i think the the criticism was that
                                         
                                         he treats the patients in this especially because these are women in a very vulnerable state oh yeah
                                         
                                         as kind of like no big deal but i think the thing is you're not putting yourself in the shoes of
                                         
                                         someone who does this for a living and has to put up with insanity as well as horror it's a it's a
                                         
                                         portrayal though right in your mind you feel like you're probably being like that at the time, right?
                                         
                                         So like, that's how it's portrayed, like in the show sort of thing.
                                         
                                         I don't think it's meant to be that he's realistically like doing these things.
                                         
    
                                         It's kind of like-
                                         
                                         It's what he's thinking.
                                         
                                         But I think the idea was, how dare he think that?
                                         
                                         Like, he's not being fair to the patients.
                                         
                                         He's diminishing their pain and their suffering.
                                         
                                         Of course not.
                                         
                                         But all of the evidence as to why he would think like that is there for you as well, right?
                                         
                                         You don't have to be a genius to work it out.
                                         
    
                                         I think it's missing the fact that this is an unbelievably hard job.
                                         
                                         And you're working with people who are in an unbelievably hard situation.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And what are you going to cope with it by crying all the time and woe is me and genuinely trying to empathize with people?
                                         
                                         If you did that, I think your head would explode.
                                         
                                         Man, the woman consultant.
                                         
                                         This is where gallows humor comes from, right?
                                         
                                         It's these incredibly high strength.
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Because it's often a way, it's like a release valve for a lot of attention
                                         
                                         to deal with this you know stuff the only the only option is to laugh really when you're
                                         
                                         surrounded by such awful stuff yeah very good consultant who comes in who works with uh is it
                                         
                                         shruti i think her name is yeah yeah shruti is fucking hilarious man like just like uh just
                                         
                                         everything she fucking says is so fucking funny.
                                         
                                         It's been a good one.
                                         
                                         I've been enjoying it a lot.
                                         
    
                                         Well, here's another show.
                                         
                                         I don't really care for basketball.
                                         
                                         It's okay.
                                         
                                         But I don't follow it or anything like that.
                                         
                                         I don't watch highlights or anything.
                                         
                                         Occasionally, I'll watch a bit.
                                         
                                         Winning Time, the LA Lakers story.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
    
                                         It's absolutely phenomenal.
                                         
                                         It's got John C. Reilly is in it. Adrian Brody is in it. Fucking a bunch of people. Sally Fields is in it. A whole bunch of people that
                                         
                                         you'll recognize them. And it's about the LA Lakers in the early days, 1979, the start
                                         
                                         of the LA Lakers as a dynasty. Magic Johnson comes in as this young buck, sort of superb
                                         
                                         player, first draft pick from them
                                         
                                         and everything.
                                         
                                         And they try to build this franchise.
                                         
                                         And it's really good.
                                         
    
                                         It's funny.
                                         
                                         It's extremely raunchy.
                                         
                                         And it's just brilliant.
                                         
                                         I absolutely fucking love the show.
                                         
                                         Really, really, really good.
                                         
                                         I will seek that out.
                                         
                                         That sounds great.
                                         
                                         That sounds amazing.
                                         
    
                                         Ben, I also would like to share with you that i was on twitch
                                         
                                         rivals last week for a fortnight tournament did you make it to tomato town or whatever no no tomato
                                         
                                         town's gone unfortunately but um and there was not 10 kills on the board for me but uh i didn't
                                         
                                         realize i thought i was joining a tournament that was just going to be people who didn't really play Fortnite very much.
                                         
                                         But it turns out that it was like this big regional 300 grand prize pool tournament with like all the sweats you can imagine.
                                         
                                         We had to play six games.
                                         
                                         I didn't even touch the ground once.
                                         
                                         Like we were getting fucking murdered in midair.
                                         
    
                                         Like we just could not play the game.
                                         
                                         Like these guys they these guys were
                                         
                                         like dota teams man they were all in the same room like wearing the same gamer shirts with
                                         
                                         matching chairs and shit like that like it was unbelievable god i can imagine that i i just get
                                         
                                         fucking dumpstered like oh yeah we were hiding in you can hide in like these like uh outhouses so
                                         
                                         we were trying to find outhouses that we could hide in and because
                                         
                                         but because you got points for kills not only kills but wins and stuff we're actually fully
                                         
                                         getting stream sniped so that people could track us down and kill us for points because money i
                                         
    
                                         guess it was unbelievable how did you guys do dead last like we just could not fucking who was on your team that's hilarious
                                         
                                         uh ravs and wolfabell okay three people who have a combined experience of like maybe 20 hours of
                                         
                                         fortnite right oh that's overall time yeah it was it was good it was we we made them we made the
                                         
                                         best of it i guess but and we had fun yeah that's it but i mean when you get
                                         
                                         in those things and you just think like there is no fucking way oh my god man yeah it was it was
                                         
                                         interesting to see how really good players play as well because you could spectate after so i guess
                                         
                                         that was kind of cool too but like we were just completely and utterly outclassed it was it was
                                         
                                         pretty funny it was just there was no fucking chance.
                                         
    
                                         Like, we just couldn't do anything.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's funny.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it was good.
                                         
                                         Oh, crap.
                                         
                                         Well, anyway, thank you for checking in.
                                         
                                         I've got to go back to the Van Gogh exhibit.
                                         
                                         Oh, my God, man.
                                         
                                         Well, have fun.
                                         
    
                                         Enjoy yourself.
                                         
                                         By the time this is going out, I'll be in Sweden.
                                         
                                         I'll be...
                                         
                                         If you want to watch some...
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm going back.
                                         
                                         I'll be gone for two weeks.
                                         
                                         And I'm going to be co-hosting.
                                         
                                         Shiva's the main host.
                                         
    
                                         I'm going to be the other host.
                                         
                                         Second host.
                                         
                                         Maybe even third host for the major.
                                         
                                         So I'll be doing the group stage stuff
                                         
                                         and then the main stage stuff.
                                         
                                         I went out yesterday
                                         
                                         and I bought a suit
                                         
                                         and I bought a blazer and I bought a bunch of trousers and shirts. I'm going to look as natty as hell then the main stage stuff, I went out yesterday and I bought a suit and I bought a blazer
                                         
    
                                         and I bought a bunch of trousers and shirts.
                                         
                                         I'm going to look as natty as hell for the main event.
                                         
                                         I bought a brand new suit.
                                         
                                         It's lovely.
                                         
                                         And yeah, that's going to be a couple of weeks.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm going to check that out for sure.
                                         
                                         I haven't hosted stuff much before.
                                         
                                         Maybe a handful of times.
                                         
    
                                         You'll be fine, man.
                                         
                                         You'll be fine.
                                         
                                         I figure, why not give me a shot?
                                         
                                         You know, they give everybody else a shot.
                                         
                                         Give me a shot.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Now's your time to shine. Take it it easy don't screw it up i will i
                                         
                                         won't screw it up i will mess up all right bye no pressure bye
                                         
