Triforce! - Triforce! #230: The Great Smut Heist

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

Triforce! Episode 230! Sips can't break his nasty Plate Up! addiction, Pyrion is sick of the "deadbeat ex-pro" stereotype in movies and we're trying to stop muddying the limelight! Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What a jingle. What a jingle jangle that you blessed us with this morning. Thank you. Hasht this morning. Thank you. Hashtag blessed. Thanks so much. You don't see that as much now. Hashtag blessed.

No, I know. I'm bringing it back. I feel like I missed out on the first wave and now, you know, it's time to bring it back. I think it's reached the point now where you could definitely use it and people would love it. Find it funny. They would love it. People would really appreciate it. Sure.

I think so i think i think you could probably do that with a bunch of stuff that people have forgotten you know i think you can always it's always funny to bring up a slightly old meme hashtag oh yeah i think it's old enough you know it has to have passed from the collective consciousness and it's you know what it's only okay if i do it, though. If somebody else does it, fuck them. But if I'm doing it, it's acceptable. If you're trying to steal this idea from Sips, bear in mind it only works

with him in it. It doesn't work with you in it. Exactly. Don't try and steal it. You will fail. Timing is everything. Both of you will look foolish. You'll both have eggs. You will be hashtag cringe. Yes. And not hashtag blessed at all you'll be like the what's the opposite of being blessed damned cursed indeed hashtag cursed

yeah yeah i like that uh a busy week for you sips uh you have been in the kitchen the entire fucking week apparently oh my god man i have been absolutely hammering played up like there's no tomorrow but i've been having a lot of fun it's nice to uh it's nice to be uh really into a game you know like you get you get those you get those times where you're just like i like the games i'm playing but like i could take them or leave them but man played up has uh has absolutely captivated me me it sucks you in it's enchanting yeah it's kind of it's kind of blown up isn't it like yeah yeah i think uh i think people i i think especially if you can play it with like uh a person or a group of people that you work well with it is very satisfying it's a it's a lot of

fun and quite hard too surprisingly you know like uh yeah as opposed to overcooked which it gets compared to a lot naturally overcooked is something that you can just kind of complete and you're done but with with plate up it's it kind of goes into like an endless mode after you five star your restaurant which gets harder and harder and harder so it's kind of of fun to try to maximize everything to push as far as you can into the endless mode, where it just gets insane. But it's really fun.

It's really, really fun. I've enjoyed it a lot. I saw you and Hafu. Well, we've had you on in the office, Sips. You don't know this, but we've got a big TV in the middle of the office and we've just had you and Hafu on it. And there was one playthrough that i i think i went home at like you know late at night and you were still going and then i came

back the next morning did like a full day of recording and in the afternoon you guys were still doing the same run or something yeah yeah it was like we got to like overtime day 21 or something but like it was insane because like when you start the game you're like the the first day you get six customers or something right by day 21 we were we were we were we were getting like 75 customers or something like it was just insane it was really hard to balance and then we lost but it was it was good it's been really fun so yeah i i'm i'm glad to see people enjoying it because it is a real fun game we've had, I dragged Simon's computer across the office and set it up on one of

the other TVs and we just sat around all night drinking and playing Play Up, it was a really good evening and I think you, that was the night when you like, I think you just finished a 12 hour Play Up stream and you were like you sent me a message saying do you want to play and I was like oh my fucking god and i was like this is too deep in a completely different time zone to me

as well so she's just she's existing on these like really degenerate hours now where she's like no like she's waking up at like 2 33 o'clock in the morning just so that we can play. Just to play Play-On. Yeah, just to fit in with my schedule and stuff. It's pretty, it's nice. But also concerning as well because obviously you don't want somebody to be, you know, their physical and mental health being affected. But I don't know. It's one of those things, right?

I feel like it's a game that you will binge on for a few weeks and then move on sort of thing. Yeah, like old games. You just enjoy it while it's a game that you will binge on for a few weeks and then move on sort of thing. Yeah, playing old games. You just enjoy it while it's fun and there you go. Like that's kind of like the essence of gaming, isn't it? It's just those sort of like getting into something, really liking it, binging through it, and then getting to the point where you're like, yeah, cool, I'm done. I can move on to something else now or whatever.

I like that. Totally. There's a few other sort of multiplayer games that are fun to hang to hang it it's just i don't know it's just nice to have a multiplayer game for once like everyone was playing stray or everyone was playing i don't know whatever the hot new thing was that was single player was it that's all that's all good at any point it's never dota it's it's when is dota gonna be the hot game again it's a but it's an older it's an older competitive game, right? We pick up Dota every time there's a TI

for now. I mean, to be fair as well, I am coming down today to do Dota the next two days in the Ox. I'm just saying, when is it going to be the time when everybody's like, you guys heard of this game Dota? And it's something positive. It'll be just a couple of days

after The annual International end Everybody gets back into it right You guys ever heard of this game called War Thunder It's totally blowing up dude It's a fucking ancient game I'm just waiting for our time Let me fucking know

You have your time once a year every summer What are you talking about you've had your time I want us to be the biggest game on twitch just once and not a ti that's all i'm saying i want people to realize it's a great game and fucking play it and stop stop playing uh it's rivals no play is not a rival direct competitor time i'm saying get rid of league i want league to die i want dota to be top get dota to the top fuck okay well it's good that you've got your own. I think, I think honestly the the only difference is I think League is just marketed better than Dota.

I actually think Dota is a better game like Well, I mean Dota has like four fucking developers. League has like two thousand staff. You know, I mean Dota is like managed by fucking one guy in his pants. Yeah, it really is. I love that. Trip to Seattle to Valve was hilarious. It was absolutely mad. Holy shit, we're actually going to meet the guys who work on Dota. And it was like an office the size of my garage.

It was like a cubicle the size of my garage with four people in it. It's like, oh, hey, cool. You guys work on Dota? Yeah. That's it. That was the team. It was so good. And they were building like a Lego Star Destroyer.

That's what they were building. They weren't working on fucking Dota. That's for goddamn sure. Anyway, I'm saying as if... I'm sorry, Valve. I'm sorry. I'm not associated with this podcast in any way. They just need to put in what they're getting out. I think that's the funny thing about Valve.

They're obviously making billions from Dota. Why don't they put some of that back in to Dota? They're making billions from Steam, homie. That's it. Yeah, they make billions from Steam. They're making billions from Dota. No, they're not making billions. They're making great money from Dota for a game that's 10 years old.

They make like five bucks a month or something like that. That's not much. You're right. It's not cheap. They're just breaking even most of the time. They make a lot of money from the Battle Pass. Anyway, sorry, go on. make like five bucks a month or something like that it's not much you're right it's not they're just breaking even most of the time they make a lot of money from the battle pass anyway sorry go on listen i wanted to uh to come back to something we we spoke about last week because i watched the woodstock 99 train wreck documentary after you recommending it and uh it was good i i i thought

it was it was good it made me go off and read more about the whole thing i didn't realize like how sort of you know uh dire the whole thing was i remember it happening like i remember hearing about it and stuff but i didn't realize that it was like you know such a mess and stuff but man fuck me the the the part where in the rave hangar where the van was was going through during fat boys holy shit that's that is the worst story like i think i've ever heard like when they were talking about what was happening yeah and stuff like that fuck me man like you just uh it's the worst i just hate shit like that like it just it's almost like uh like traumatizing a bit mental that people could just

casually drive a van yeah woman who'd been sexually assaulted in the back of it it's the middle of it's just it's un-fucking-believable man like it's staggering that i mean i don't know how many um how many went like unreported but like the the the actual amount 99.9 i guarantee yeah the the statistics are are insane because it's like you see that and you're like holy shit like so many people must have died that weekend no it's like two people did and you just think how i think the craziest thing to me is like um the the women saying that you were just getting no i didn't think anyone died no one died no yeah there's like two people who died one guy

collapsed from i think heat exhaustion he was in his 40s and died they didn't mention that and another guy overdosed he overdosed had heat exhaustion and then eventually died of hypothermia while he was in a coma from um from complications doing owing to overdosing on drugs and uh and like complications with obesity as well i mean i'm not gonna he's only a so I'm not going to put... He was only a kid. I'm not going to put those deaths necessarily at the feet of the Woodstock 99 organizers.

No, no. I mean, I think that very much was people going hard. Yeah. But the rest of it, I mean, the water being contaminated, the lack of available drinking water. When that woman was describing trench mouth yeah just unbelievable oh the thing is if you think about it you enjoyed it i enjoyed it a lot that was 1999 there had there was no sort of uh me too was 20 years away right yeah the idea of women

speaking out at just being grabbed and other men Policing other men and saying what the fuck are you doing? That didn't happen by then if you know dudes were just grabbing these women like that was it and When the women were crowd surfing they were just getting groped the whole time a god knows how many sexual assaults took place I would say if you were a woman at that event and you didn't get sexually assaulted That that in itself is is a standout statistic because because holy shit what a bunch of perverts yeah it's it's great there's so many people the the i i was wondering because you know they were all they were so um they they talked about you know being profitable and and budget cuts and stuff so often and you think i think over the week the weekend that it took place, they saw about 400,000 people come through.

Right. Who all would have paid like, what, 150 bucks per ticket? Yeah, it's crazy. So where the fuck was all their money going? But then you think of the lineup they had for the weekend. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, I guess that's where it all went. You're not going to get Korn, Limp Bizkit, Metallica, the Red Hot Chili.

These were all like the big bands right of that of that era right and of course fucking bush like we forgot about bush what a shit band i fucking he was married to gwen stefani right. And fucking cheated on her with a nanny. Who the fuck does this? Gwen Stefani, what are you doing? Like, come on. What are you thinking, Bush Gavin Rossdale from Bush? Like, what the hell is wrong with you?

It's crazy anyway. But yeah, no, he was, I love the bit where he had to go on stage with bush right after corn like yeah that was so good the audience was just amped to the fucking max and then howdy comes without his shirt on swallow like it's just made me laugh was they said gavin did a really good job of calming down the crowd i'm thinking no they're just not a hype band. And everybody there was like, oh, yeah, it's Bush. Like, it just sucks all the energy out of everyone. It wasn't some clever...

Gavin was like, I've read the room here, and I must calm these people. I think people just didn't give a shit. You don't hear Bush played on their fucking radio anymore, dude, ever. No, of course not. They disappeared. Yeah, yeah. They're still together, apparently, but I don't know what they're even doing. Dog shit.

Yeah, yeah. But they had some weird... So the whole lineup was... Like, we spoke about this last week when we said it was a lot of new metal, which was at the time huge, right? Yeah. It just really blew up. But almost the whole lineup was these new metal bands, right?

But then interwoven in there was like willie nelson yeah jewel cheryl crowe i know yeah it and and even bush to some extent i mean you know like these these were like much slower paced yeah yeah bands right um and i i just feel like but like a lot of the problems they they would have had was was the lineup was was very specific yeah but then thinking about like music in the 90s as well you went from like early 90s kind of like uh moody angry music but slower to mid to late 90s a lot faster but very angry very aggressive music right like like i'd say the 90s just generally was a very angry decade, wasn't it, for music? Yeah, the music was, but oddly enough, I think it was a pretty chill decade.

It was. Not bad, yeah. I mean, when I think back to the 90s, I don't think about, I mean, obviously, I'm just talking about UK-centric here. But, you know, it it was like it wasn't it wasn't that bad it didn't feel like uh like nowadays where everything seems fucking insane it's the other the other thing that I was younger so maybe a lot of it I missed yeah another thing that struck me that I thought was was kind of interesting was um the people speaking about the kids and stuff that were at Woodstock 99 and the way that they were behaving and how appalled they were of all this stuff going on and stuff.

And it wasn't anything like Woodstock in 69, you know, that was, you know, peace and love and stuff. But the kids who are at Woodstock 99 are the product of people who would have been at Woodstock 69. So you created these people. Like, what the fuck are you? What have you done? You know what I mean? Like, peace and love. You created, like, the angriest generation of kids and sent them off to Woodstock 99 30 years later

and they fucking trashed the place. Like, what have you done? It's you. It's down to you. They were almost thinking, like, you know, how do we get our kids to be as chill as us because we're really chill they weren't they had no chill like they were really just fucking destroying the place in the end you know what understandably as well like they were treated like animals it was crazy yeah first of all you you spent several days

winding this crowd up because if the music is making them angry which it does normally that's just a release yeah but the problem here is there were things for them to be legitimately upset about oh they sort of rebelled at the end so that was the my biggest takeaway was that the people acted like fucking animals but they were also treated like animals and it was a perfect storm it was a perfect storm and the organizer that, that guy, the guy with the curly hair, the organizer, he had the most punchable fucking face. Oh, he did, yeah. He just had that sort of weird smirk.

He had that shit-eating grin all the time, didn't he? Just all the time. Fuck off, dude. What are you doing? Yeah, he was just a callous motherfucker. Dude didn't give a shit. Man, if I go somewhere and they're charging $10 for a burrito, I'm trashing the place as well.

I'm just saying. My cellar's going to be apart. It's too much. It's stupid. Like $4 for a bottle of water? I mean, and you've paid $150 to go there in the first place. There's shit everywhere. There's garbage all over the place.

Even now. It just looked like hell. Every time a new episode started, I was just like, fuck me, that's got to be hell. Like you're standing in a field filled with garbage and shit. And smelly people. In blazing heat. And I mean, you grew up in New York.

You grew up on that side of the world. The summers are so fucking hot with the humidity and stuff, too. They're brutal, right? Yeah. Man, I don't like it. It's staggering that not more people were killed assaulted like everything but again i think a lot of it went unreported because they seem to be very very aware of the bad publicity and probably paid a lot of money to shut people up who you're gonna

tell those security guards were just like kids they rounded up at the mall yeah like and and the wild thing is too i mean cell phones weren't in circulation then right you know it wasn't just film it yourself and you couldn't just phone somebody to say this has happened you couldn't like it was it was kind of harder to get hold of like you know emergency services whatever right like you had to find a pay phone or an office that had a phone or something it was you... You know what I did think? Whenever I think back to the 60s and all the footage you see of the police turning up and cracking some hippie heads, right? That was a big thing.

They turn up with their big sticks and just start smacking these poor kids. When the police finally got called on Woodstock 99, I wonder how many of the old guard who cracked hippie heads were like, my time's come again. Come on, butterfly. That's his nickname for his trunchuncheon we got we got hippies to hit and they out they go big fat old cops just feels like old times smacking some hippie on the head that's what they that's what they were praying for it to kick off probably yeah it was uh it was a it was a interesting document i like watching stuff like that, especially music documentaries and whatever.

But yeah, it was an interesting one. Good shout. I'm glad I watched it. Also, while I went on a bit of a bender, I watched two other music documentaries because over the weekend, the baby just had this monster nap on my lap. The kids were just playing outside and stuff. So I was like, whatever, I'll just watch some documentaries, I guess. I watched an ABBA documentary,

which was really good. Good lord, man. No, it was good. And I watched a Kate Bush documentary as well. Hell yeah. She's really interesting and the documentary was excellent as well. I watched them both on, I think, BBC4, the iPlayer.

They got so much shit on there, man. It's crazy. Like, it's just, if you're ever stuck for something to watch, BBC2 and BBC4's, like, content archive is insane. There's so much stuff to watch that you wouldn't have seen because it was just on TV at some odd time that you've never realized or whatever, you know? Kate Bush. Well, she obviously got chucked back into fame with the old Stranger Things soundtrack recently right yeah yeah but she um she just she just um retreated from the limelight for about 15 years like she I think her mother died she broke up with her

long-term partner and then got together with uh the guitarist of her band, left London, moved out to the countryside, and just didn't do anything. She was still working on music and stuff. She had a child, and she just decided, I'm just going to raise my child and take my time and do whatever. And then 15 years later, she just came back with a new double album, and people were like, oh, great, she's back. Yeah.

But it's a... Very low key. Very low, yeah, very low key, but like, you know, almost like a recluse sort of thing. But she, you know, some very famous friends who speak highly of her as well, like in the documentary, you had like Elton John and all these people who were just like, yeah, you you know like we we kept saying to her you should come back and record music or whatever but she was just like no i'm just you know i'm just doing my thing i'm just enjoying my life or whatever and i i think it's i think she just had such a like um you know like sometimes when when when musicians artists with celebrities like they get they get really big and they just end up being like uh really eccentric like in the in the wrong ways sort of thing i don't know she just seemed

like a like a lot more human the fact that she could just make this reasonable decision about her life and kind of stick to it and not be controlled by what she thought people expected of her and stuff like that you know what i mean i think it's really healthy i think that people when they've had this big success and they're set for life you know and they're very comfortable they don't need to keep pushing yeah burn out they don't need to keep going and keep working and keep driving themselves mad i mean i feel like that's a little bit like what happened with anthony bourdain you know he couldn't ever shut off his desire to keep doing more and more and seeing more places and doing more things. Like he was very he struggled to settle down and appreciate what he had, I guess.

Appreciate that he was a success and that he could take time to just relax and not work and not. He had such an addictive personality, though, right? He had such an addictive personality, though, right? Where he went from drugs to working in the kitchen to making these TV shows to being obsessive with one project after the next. A friend of mine went out with him, not as in on a date, but to a nightclub. And they went super late.

And Bourdain was like, let's fucking go. I'll get the full story and I'll tell it on a later podcast if i can but it was essentially my mate who was a young lad was was absolutely fucking in awe of just how much bourdain could put away his stamina his energy the dude was just like a machine yeah um and i think obviously that's not normal to be like that at that age and i think it's just because he was an older guy right yeah but to be constantly looking for that buzz uh you know he needed he needed something i think a lot of people are just i mean he's an extreme version but i think a lot of people are the same they they can't turn it off you know they they feel like they have to just keep going and keep going even though this is you see it with millionaires and billionaires and these people who have made them their themselves you know yeah and yet they don't slow down yeah they won't ever let go

um or even like take a back seat you know so and it's and it's weird that kate bush and that that comedian who was who took that i can't remember what his name was he was in um it's in ghostbusters and stuff he was quite quite famous. Dan Aykroyd? No, he took the time off. He had a family and sort of disappeared. Oh, Rick Moranis. Rick Moranis, yeah. Yeah, he went off and I think he quit showbiz. And he went off.

Did he do a country music album, I believe? Let me check. Rick Moranis is an interesting guy because he started off with Second City and all that stuff in Canada. Yeah, he was in Little Shop of Horrors, right? Yeah, I mean, if you look at his career in the 80s, he was in Ghostbusters, Brewster's Millions,

Little Shop of Horrors, Spaceballs, Ghostbusters 2, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Parenthood, L.A. Story, Honey, I Blew Up the Kid. But he was in The Flintstones, less said about that. Of course, yeah, yeah. Then Honey, I Shrunk the Audience, which I didn't realize was it. That's a ride. That's a 4D film and disney and then we shrunk ourselves which is a 1997 and then nothing basically for the rest of his career just did some voiceover stuff and um

i think he just kind of stopped he just decided you know what no he must have been absolutely he took time off to raise his kids and he just didn't want to be in the world, I think. He just wanted to take some time out. I'm a single parent and I just found it was too difficult to manage to raise my kids and do the travelling involved in making movies. So I took a little bit of a break and a little bit of a break turned into a longer break

and then I found that I really didn't miss it. All right, well, here's another thing. His wife did die. Well, I mean, yeah. They had two children so he slowly left the public life to look after them so that was more it wasn't i did not know that about rick moranis that's crazy so yeah he just kind of stopped but um yeah yeah interesting uh i i guess he had uh a pretty great uh career i mean he was certainly he was in all kinds of big

movies and would have and like he's like uh you know saturday night live and um second scene all that kind of stuff so you don't hear about it very often that people just stop to um to raise like i i know like um like john lennon kind of took a couple years off to raise um his son uh but i don't know i don't know if he actually stopped writing music at the time or anything but like you know he was just this is like post Beatles and stuff but

that's another kind of like you know example of somebody I told you to put your clothes away in the bedroom Julian why have how many times have I got to tell you Julian to tidy up your room, Julian? I think I could write a song about that.

Tidy your room, Julian, tidy your room. All you've got to do is tidy. Oh, man. Who hasn't flushed the toilet? Why has the toilet unflushed, Julian? It wasn't me. I've been in the studio. If it's brown, flush it down.

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i just like this i like this this attitude towards get because you that it's so easy to just get washed down the river of everyone telling you what to do and doing the normal thing every day and like it's i just like the the idea anyway i heard was coming back um because they're doing a disney plus um honey i shrunk the kids called shrunk of course it's all has to be like now rebooted um yeah people can't deal with a title that's too descriptive i think it's either overly descriptive or it's just a single where are you gonna go with that title though they've done it honey i shrunk the kids but then i made them bigger again and now they've shrunk again twice like how long is the movie title gonna be i think i just want to know i want to know what i'm getting

you know yeah you go if the movie is called honey i shrunk the kids you're like i know exactly what this is gonna be if it's called shrunk well that could be anything honey i fucked up big time honey i've done it again honey the children are much smaller than they used to be oh man those are great movies though and honey i shrunk the audience uh i saw as a kid at uh i think it was mgm studios what was mgm studios which is now i think just disney studios in uh at at disney world in florida and they also had it at the uh one in france and i've taken my son on it and he liked it too he'd watch the movie we had we had like uh the movie and then when we went to disney he saw that so it was like a good sort of like, oh, I know this. And he liked it.

But it was all like in 3D. You had to put the glasses on, stuff like, you know, flew out of the screen at you and stuff. And then you're in like a rollercoastery thing as well where you bounce around, aren't you? So, it's like that's the 4D. No, it wasn't so much rollercoastery. But the seats themselves had these like little air tubes under them so there's one part where like he spills a crate of rats and the rats run out of the screen towards you like as if they're gonna go into like the audience right and then these little tubes start wiggling around

behind your feet so it feels like rat tails on the back of your feet so it's like like little prop things as well there's like a point where i think of your feet so it's like like little prop things as well there's like a point where i think the dog sneezes and they spray like a misty water from like the ceiling on you and shit like that you know it's like like like an immersive experience yeah so it's good for kids right they love that you know what wasn't an immersive experience i watched the movie moonfall oh i saw your tweets yeah my god what a piece of shit don't watch it i thought this would be a fun goofy shitty disaster movie you tend to watch some some shitty movies you've got to look at these things if you're looking i watch a lot

of good movies but i also like to watch some bad movies i like to balance it out because sometimes a movie that's been very badly reviewed is actually really good Sometimes and sometimes a really good movie that everybody loves you don't enjoy it all so Can't be too dismissive and also fascinated to see bad movies like I really am they're fascinating budget 140 million for moonfall And a hundred and forty million. Yeah. Yeah, God, they should have given me that money i know i could have retreated from the limelight it is to the moon i wish roland emmerich would retreat from the limelight because he needs to stop making movies it's just abysmal it's it's so bad it's not even funny really that's another thing right

so kate bush retreats from the limelight nobody wants her to because she's actually good like right why not it's in fucking michael bay retreat to the yeah from the limelight or something i'd like zach snyder michael bay roland emmerich get out of the fucking limelight just stop hogging the limelight take a fucking break have a day off fuck off you've ruined the limelight yeah it's kind of brown yeah um so what's what's the uh what's the limelight's turning brown mom what's wrong with it what's wrong with it

so it's the setup is really poor like it's it's like he's seen a bunch of other movies and then tried to stick them in so there's a kind of mark kermode does a really good

review of this if you watch the movie and then people said you should watch mark kermode's review i did and i was like the problem with kermode's review is and bear in mind mark kermode loves the twilight movies all right so let's take mark kermode wait twilight is the um the teen vampire thing right he's a big fan legitimately like there's a bunch of things that mark kermode is like he's a film critic so he's never going to just be a normal person he's always going to have some weirdo take because that's how you get column inches and that's a nice way to to make people think wow isn't he interesting but but no um twilight sucks moonfall sucks they can both suck both things suck uh and we don't need to be cute about it so i find that kind of annoying this is a bad film

because the characters don't make sense the film radioactively dumb right but he also said my brain turned to sewage i had so much i was grinning from ear to ear yeah it is really bad i mean there's a scene there's scenes where they just the is just, you just think, was this the first draft of the script? Like, I think a lot of the time when it's that stupid, no one's read it and thought, does this make sense? Is this even logical? Is this in any way adhering to science? Even just a little bit.

So, for example, the moon is off course because some aliens got inside it and is digging a hole and, like, pushing, I think the the moon towards the earth or something uh now the moon is getting closer and it sucks all the water up right from the surface of the earth so just hang in there uh which is ridiculous uh i don't think that that would happen um and then they say if we can get this alien out of there uh the moon should just return to its original course. Halle Berry says that line. And I'm like, why? Why would it do that?

You've knocked it off course. It's now off course. It's not going to go back to what it was doing before just because you changed its orbital path. It's now been slowed down or sped up. If you speed it up, it's going to go further away. You slow it down, it's going to come closer. You can't speed up and slow down the moon, Earth.

We don't have it in us, all right? It's beyond us. We're sending space shuttles up there, which is another thing. The space shuttles were decommissioned. Why are there still space shuttles in this movie? And there were these weird things popping up. It just makes no sense.

And then the guy who was his mate, Jon Snow's mate in Game of Thrones, he was the one who said, oh, Jon, I don't know about that, Jon. The sort of panicky Mr. Mannering one. Oh, Santali. Yeah, Santali, him. He's like a conspiracy theorist

who thinks the moon is a megastructure and for some reason they fucking believe him. And he just turns up a nastron like, oh, yes, you're in charge now. Like, what the fuck, man? Just watch it. It's so bad so bad wow this is horrendous i would i would love to to be on set when they're filming some of these incredibly dumb scenes and just see is it just i kind of think it's just people doing their jobs worth you know like like people who've turned up to work and they've got this thing to film and everyone's there just to get paid and leave you know yeah and there's no passion there's no

thought like you like you said about the space shuttles it's like they're stuck in the 80s you know so there is one thing would not be space shuttles down that they don't they're not they don't but i will say i'm pretty sure that the scene with the space shuttle is at the start of the movie and it's meant to be 10 years later or something that we then come back down to present. So I might be wrong about that, but I don't think we'll be using them in 2012 either. So either way, it felt weird to see a space shuttle. I don't think we've used them for some time. Yeah, the last flight was 2011.

Okay, so that could have been the last flight. Right. But yeah, it was weird. They just didn't believe him when he says they got attacked by aliens. They're like, solar flare. And there's no... Like, why would they throw him under the bus like that? As usual, they need a bad guy, and apparently the people that

run NASA are evil, according to Roland Emmerich. Like, they're just idiots, and it's up to plucky, sacked, drunk astronaut Patrick Wilson to fucking turn up to plucky, sacked, drunk astronaut Patrick Wilson to fucking turn up and save the day. No, I'm pretty sure it would be a team effort, as everything is at NASA. Ridiculous.

And Halle Berry and another stinker. Sacked, drunk, former professional is such a movie thing, isn't it? It is such a movie thing. He comes back to sort it out. You could tell that that guy would be a massive cunt. You know, he'd probably be a massive cunt you know he'd probably have beaten his wife he'd probably be fucking a miserable shit i would hate that guy but somehow he's got a heart of gold and you know that's the american way isn't it you know it's that lousy

nasty bureaucracy that got him sacked um so yeah it's don't you think it's weird here's a thing that is such a movie trope and if you watch there's so many films of this is the case once you notice it it's hard to unsee how do you set the scene for this guy's kind of a fuck up he lives alone his apartment's a mess he wakes up and opens his fridge and there's just a beer in there and of course he just bang opens the beer smokes a cigarette and they're like where are you mcclellock we need yeah it's just rigs from lethal weapon pretty much it's that character they can they obviously have to show he's a nice guy so what they do is they have him have a lovely dog which is in immaculate condition of course he

opens a cupboard and it's full of dog food because he cares for his dog he gets a sparkly clean plate out you know gives him his dog food you know obviously everywhere else it's an absolute shithole right um you have to show that you care and you look after this lovely dog. And he has probably a motorcycle or a very cool car. And, you know, his place is just a fucking dump. This guy, in reality, would turn up to work stinking of booze and BO. His dog would be a mess. Because I don't think he would ever bother taking the time to brush him or clean him.

Or fucking walk him. When's he walking the dog when is this character taking his dog for a walk never never no riggs isn't walking the dog you don't see him walking the dog no he's too busy fighting crime in la he doesn't have time to walk the dog come on or sleeping it off sleeping off a massive hangover so i just think it's ridiculous it's such a stereotype i think john belushi not john belushi what was his brother was his brother james belushi yeah movie canine i think he plays the exact same exact same character and that they love it it was a popular type of character in 80s and 90s movies and maybe still i don't know i don't watch as many movies as i used to but yeah apparently called a moon force a perfectly

acceptable uh way to portray a character very lazy i i don't know why they can't just think up a new character type you know like uh what about the the the lead character for memento who had short-term memory problems and had to tattoo clues all over his body that's interesting interesting yeah why don't we use that character again yeah why isn't that cool let's just get one more of those instead of another drunken has been professional who's come back to save salvage nasa or whatever agreed why can't we have it's always like related to science somehow as well right like they're brilliant scientists well okay sure but like it's just like it feels like it's somebody's like big wet dream sometimes they

when you're when you're watching it you know yeah yeah it's it's i also think that a lot of the people that write these are just fucking hacks and it's much easier to just copy another character than it is to write a new one yeah i would love to see the grizzled uh veteran detective who has a terrible memory and has to constantly write the name of the suspect on his arm and then he gets confused because he's got all these old cases looks like I'm going to catch the clown cap killer no detective

forgetful we did that two years ago don't you remember here's a picture of us with him in handcuffs oh yeah right alright well what about this guy he's got all the names on his arms every ten minutes he completely forgets the case but by god he's the best yeah it's i totally get this like i do you think it's because people want to be able to put them like they i'm just an average idiot right and that guy is saving the world so maybe i could save the world

yeah i think i think it is a bit of that a bit of uh projection you can you can more easily i mean i also i guess it's sort of like uh i guess it's it's kind of wish fulfillment to tell i think it's kind of an insult to the audience to say look he's a slob like you you know what i mean and he's successful so you can be too and he's done something yeah he's a disgusting you could just be a slob yeah And you'll still be when you need to. You could just pull it out, you know? Oh, you fucking live like a shithead. And, you know, don't worry.

When panic strikes, you'll be fine. You know? You'll be there to save the day. You'll be fine. Yeah. You fucking disgusting slob. By the way, buy some more popcorn. Yeah.

For like six bucks for a small bag of popcorn like all they do is just heat up some kernels like i always buy it though i i same i do every time i'm an idiot as well me too i i wonder how much that is true though like in a sense because all these these these it's quite cool to have a a drunk older guy who's like you know got a like kind of sad backstory you know his wife was killed oh my wife wasn't killed but yes up to that point drunk older guy with a sad backstory i'll take that that's me he's i don't know like it's quite i i don't mind that that i think like the the whole John Wick epitomizes it as well. That was the worst character development of all time in a successful trilogy.

Yeah. I've never even seen a, I've never seen a John Wick movie. I'm told that they're pretty entertaining, but I just haven't gotten around to watching one. Do you like action? I mean, sometimes, yeah. Like, I'll watch action. entertaining but i just haven't gotten around to watching one do you like action um i mean sometimes yeah so like i'll watch action every scene is like what can john wick do that's like a semi-inventive way to kill someone in this scene right and it gets it gets to the point like he if you think if you think about most action movies that we grew up with in the 80s and 90s i actually

watched terminator 2 the other day still a pretty good movie oh terminator 2 is a classic man i love that movie the good guys don't fucking cut people's heads off no i mean in john wick he will butcher people like he is a fucking animal he will do the worst things look he's a really cool guy right it's keanu reeves he's a cool guy he lives in a cool house he's got a cool dog he's got a sad backstory he's troubled he's a really cool guy, right? It's Keanu Reeves. He's a cool guy. He lives in a cool house. He's got a cool dog. He's got a sad backstory. He's troubled. He's obviously, he was an ex-assassin or some shit.

But the point of this, the movie is, it's a classic. Originally, it was a rip-off of like these Korean revenge movies where, you know, he would be,

someone would come along, break into his house and kill his dog. And so he went on this rampage. R rampage to avenge the dog absolutely yeah and and each sequel they then have to come up with some even more bizarre reason why he has to go on this all right so it's not always the dog it's not like no but that was what started he went on his rampage he got home he had a, he drank like a glass of milk and just decided, I'm still so fucking angry.

And then like just went even more ham. Maybe someone like someone kicked his bin over or something. And he got excommunicated from the assassin underworld. It's sort of, they've got this big thing set up where all the assassins are like part of some sort of, there's like a code. It sounds to me a bit like the premise for Falling Down down remember that with uh michael douglas like falling down it's like you haven't been listening somebody no no no but it's like it's that idea that like it's like you know maybe i guess like somebody killing your dog you would probably want to go out and get some revenge or whatever but like it feels like some like you know

getting angry about like the the straw that broke the camel's back sort of thing right and that's it right it's not about the dog it's about it's about it's about like just like a lot of stuff that's built up over time yeah and then the dog decides the dog becomes the catalyst for him just i need to do the right thing that's's right. And kill all these mafia people. And so he fights these guys in such a way that I lost sympathy for him. And you stop seeing him as a hero. And it's literally just gun porn. And people really. Oh, wow.

Look at that reload. That was a good reload that Ricciardo did there, you know, and all that kind of shit. And there were all these YouTube videos of him in training. And he's like actually on a range shooting things and all the rest of it. It's just gun porn. Well, it's bizarrely sequels to The Matrix in a sense, right? A more pure sequel because...

Not a pure sequel, obviously, but a spiritual successor in that we saw that character in The Matrix be this badass guy with guns, going and doing these elaborate action scenes where he's spinning around jumping on the ceiling throwing a knife through someone's head across the room kind of thing right all of this sort of very it's it's no shaky cam that's the other thing john wick is very clean it is it is well shot yeah clean action you know that's actually watchable

because there was a time when i would just skip through action stuff in tv and movies like because it was all just everyone was shaky camming up and and bullshit and it was it was it was unwatchable it was the worst bit of my tv show yeah it was incoherent it's just it's just you're just watching kinetic energy on the screen just thrashing and this is moving around because you can't see anything what was that to make it seem more real, but it was awful. What was that movie where the guy basically, the whole movie was a guy had a GoPro on his helmet and he was like jumping between trains and

fighting people and stuff? That started off as a YouTube video, didn't it? I can't remember the name of it, but I always thought it looked interesting, but apparently it's not that great. No, I think the full length film is not going to be it. I can't remember. So the problem I have with John Wick is that he doesn't just shoot the baddies and they fall down like a normal, stupid, goofy action movie.

He will then go over and like shoot them in the head point blank, like every time. It's like, holy shit. Like there's no there's no mercy with this guy. He's like the bad guy. If this the bad guy, did'd think, what a fucking asshole. That guy was down and out, and he's just fucking finished him off. John Wick will go up and press the gun into your mouth, take the time to reload, shoot you in the brains,

shoot another guy in the knee, shoot the next guy in the face, and then grab the guy who's fallen to the ground, and like, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam in his face. Like, dude, what the fuck? Chill. Chill. then grab the guy who's fallen to the ground and like blam blam blam blam blam in his face like dude what the fuck chill but i think that that's why it's successful though right because it is that that kind of thing is something that you you't see in Western cinema as much, right? Even back in the day, like, the spaghetti Westerns from Italy were a lot sort of darker,

and it wasn't until Dirty Harry and stuff like this that they sort of replicated some of that gritty darkness, you know, characters who were very, just an anti-hero, you know, a bad guy a bad guy clearly well it's interesting you bring that up lewis because the guy that made john wick 3 which i think is called john wick 3 parabellum i could be wrong wick fans correct me in the comments i'm sure you will um there's a scene in it where he breaks in he's being chased because the call has gone up saying it's midnight john wicks you know he's a know, you can kill him now and there's a big reward if you do. That's the setup for the whole movie.

So he's on the run. Suddenly there's fucking assassins everywhere. His cab driver's an assassin. The guy playing the violin's an assassin. This beggar's an assassin. The guy at the McDonald's is an assassin. They're everywhere. And the conceit is that there are assassins

coming out of the fucking world. How the market is saturated. It must be impossible to make a living. It's like Uber. They've basically done what Uber's done. There's drivers everywhere. There's less share to go around for the rest of them. So that's the situation.

The John Wick economy does not make sense. Anyway, he runs into this gun museum, locks the door. Rather than just keep on running, he cracks open the cases and starts putting together a gun and he's like spinning the chamber and listening to the click and all the rest of it. I mean, why he managed to find some bullets in there, I don't know. But either way, he assembles this gun just to shoot one guy and then he keeps running. And that whole scene was meant to be an homage to like this particular scene you can look it up of uh the guy who was like the the fat guy in the good the bad and the ugly i can't remember his character's name oh the

um yeah i can't remember his name either but the um not lee van cleef no the other guy yeah where he goes into a gun store exactly he's the ugly he goes into the gun store and he like puts together a gun from different bits of guns and gets it just right that's an homage to that now that scene has nothing to do whatsoever with John Wick they just shoehorned it in because the guy liked it

that's John Wick in a nutshell it doesn't make sense it's just a series of action sequences with the shallowest of possible plots and't make sense it's just a series of action sequences with the shallowest of possible plots and it's brutal it's brutally gory and unnecessarily so yeah i mean i get the appeal and you know what honestly sometimes i don't mind just watching something like that i think i feel like for me i just got to be in the mood you know like or if it's on tv and i'm just kind of like sat there and like I'll watch it sort of thing.

I don't know if I'd necessarily seek it out, you know. I don't know. I just like – I say this a lot, but like, man, I just like documentaries. The older I get, the more I like them as well. I just like learning about things that happened and reading about them afterwards and stuff, too. I was going to watch a documentary about this American football player, this Hawaiian American football player. Right. And he's going to be like the Heisman Trophy winner and he's going to go play for the NFL and all this kind of stuff.

And then it turns out he said his girlfriend had died. Right. But she didn't exist. Oh. That's the whole setup for it's like a three or four part documentary and mrs f was like shall we watch that and i was like i don't know it seems like a pretty weak in start to a series yeah and it doesn't really seem like such a shocking story that i mean it's it's no double LeBron James. You know what I mean?

That's the story right there. This is literally, oh, yeah, he invented a girlfriend. But then the story is, well, maybe it was another guy who was catfishing him and he'd only ever really met this girl online. That's pretty much it. That's the drama. And I'm like, this needed multiple episodes. This is like a half hour show. Yeah.

And you could sum it all up. Like I read it off Wikipedia to me and Mrs. Everett. I read the Wikipedia. I was like, summed up, job done. There was that other one on Netflix, which was similar. The one with the girl who stayed at that hotel in LA. Oh, yeah. And they eventually, she went missing and

then they found her um i felt like that one could have been probably just an episode just an episode yeah i felt like they did multiple episodes just it just dragged it out like it was but it's it is interesting like you know i would have watched like you know an hour and a half documentary on that or whatever like the story itself was very interesting. But to stretch it out that far was too much. We watched that one where the guy was accused of murder, but he was at a baseball game and Larry David was filming Curve. That was really interesting.

But it was like a nice 35-minute job done. He told the story. I'm finished. I don't need to hear from his mailman finished it wasn't like hundreds of random fucking people giving their fucking well I think what happened to it was it was the aliens in the moon and everyone was like okay sure

what I don't like is all the complete garbage speculation like a reddit thread of every fucking every dumb suggestion you could possibly imagine on this on this thread um i started watching this uh documentary it's like it's a mini series about db cooper and uh that that's that's a one that's that that is

somebody does something really simple that nobody can figure out. And then it seems like five episodes of people all coming out of the woodwork with their theories on who it could have been and how he could have done it. And how he could have gotten away with it. And did he even exist? And conspiracies. And oh, man. There's so many issue videos about it. It's nothing about D.B. Cooper. There's so many YouTube videos about it.

It's nothing about D.B. Cooper. Right. It's all about the sort of, I don't know, scene that developed around him. The micro-economy that's formed around D.B. Cooper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a swarm of additional weirdos. Yeah. Like, it's an interesting thing. It's an interesting heist.

But, like, you've got remember the the time that that took place i mean they didn't even have metal detectors or anything like that's primarily how drugs were smuggled into the country as well right people just pack a suitcase full of them and the security there's no security you had to walk past customs and they just eyeballed you yes if they didn't like the look you they were like hold on a minute there you look sweaty it's like huh yeah they're on to me i mean it's it's crazy but then like also you know at the time it was this big big deal or whatever but you watch it now and you're like okay yeah i mean 200 grand is a lot of money but like man it's it's not so much that you would spend that much time and energy

trying to figure it out you know like yeah like any any modern police department be like well you know we haven't it's been a week we haven't solved it i guess we're just writing that money you're not getting your money back but we'll keep it on file we'll keep it on file if anything else comes up you know i don't it's it's it's just completely um you know like it's taken over some people's lives you know they just like you know they go to like themed coffee shops around db cooper and stuff like that it's yeah yeah it's wild it's it's nuts it feels like one of those only in america things right like it's it's great it is a bit eccentric and stuff but i don't know it's been it's been kind

of fun we've been we've just been watching it and just you know it's it's interesting but it's for anyone that doesn't want to watch the show but wants to know more about db cooper there are like three or four really good youtube vids about it um well they sum it up very nicely and that's all you need it's like 20 minutes or whatever and then job done like it doesn't need to be all those episodes no but they need to they need content right yeah now what like i keep saying is it must be cheaper to stick a bunch of older movies on there than to fucking crank out new ones yeah i would love there are tons of movies that i would love them to stick on there and they just don't no i know i hate the the thing i hate as well is uh when they do put movies on there they'll put like

Terminator 1 and you're like oh shit okay cool Terminator 3 where the fuck where the fuck is Terminator 2 like it's the best Terminator like it's not there yeah just they don't like oh sorry no we didn't get that one yeah it's like okay I'll just watch these two other not so great Terminators and try to remember how great two was. Thank you. But when a remake comes out, the even worse thing they do is put out the original and you see it and you think, oh, the new Dune is up on so-and-so.

And you look and it's like, oh, it's the old one. Yeah. I've already seen that a hundred times. I don't need to see that again. I wanted to see the new one. They'll say like, oh, well, here's the original that was made in 1932. If you want to see that again i wanted to see the new one like they'll they'll say like oh and well here's the original that was made in 1932 if you want to see that it's like can you not try to get in on the coattails oh yeah it always makes me laugh is when chernobyl was out for us we had to watch it on now tv right the the chernobyl mini series if you went to any of the other

streaming services prime netflix or whatever they had like shadow of chernobyl you know it's like some other documentary chernobyl related hoping that people would think that it was the really good one that everybody else is talking about on the other streaming service that and they would watch it even even down to the thumbnail looking kind of similar yeah they changed the thumbnail for sure. They love doing that, eh? It's so cheap. You're going to fool me for exactly two minutes. Yes.

I'm not paying any more for this. It's not like you've tricked me into a movie theater and now I'm like, oh, we may as well watch it. I can just press back and be annoyed. Like, you've just annoyed me. You've earned no more money. I'm not like, well, hold on, honey. You don't cancel the Netflix subscription. There's something that kind'm not like well hold on honey don't cancel the netflix subscription

there's something that kind of looks like chernobyl on here so let's watch that oh man yeah it's uh uh it it's an interesting one i mean i watched the the chernobyl the the the the good one oh it's so good i didn't watch any of the other ones because once i feel like sometimes you watch something and it's so good that you're just like, I don't need to watch something else about this. This is fine for me. This has ticked all the boxes. I'm good to move on sort of thing. It's like when you find that one

porn movie that you just, that's it. That's the one. Yeah, this one's the one for me. I'm going to save this to my external hard drive and put it in my folder. That's the one, baby. We finally struck the heart for me.

That's all I need. I'm gonna disappear into the countryside. Honey, you can pack up and get the fuck out. I found it. I found it. I could be like the D.B. Cooper of porn collecting. You know, like this man found the best porn.

He found the holy grail. And then he jumped out of a plane and he's never been seen again. And then he jumped out of an airplane and parachuted into the forest, never to be seen again. We found traces of pornography stuck up on the trees around him. We found a receipt for an external USB hard drive. I think it was aliens that gave him the porn. These fossilized tissue remains reveal a trail leading west.

Oh, man. Jesus Christ. Hey, listen, I know that you guys have all done your vacations and stuff, but I'm going on one in like 10 days. Your first time away since uh just before the start of covid right we have not left this rock in over two years so everybody is pretty pretty hyped up where are you going we're just going to england okay for a week um at any point no no we'll be nowhere near london or twickenham sadly um but you know it's um it it'll be nowhere near London or Twickenham, sadly. But, you know, it'll be good.

But we do have a baby. Yeah, that's going to be hard. You never know, right? That's going to be hard. She's good. She's fine. She sleeps and stuff. But all it takes is like one bad diarrhea or something.

And, you know, that can really just get you, you know? Yeah. Same with me. Yeah. Well yeah anything but it's happened it can happen to us all yeah that's so that's so great so i'm glad you're getting like a bit of um a little bit of a little bit of a break a little bit of a break my uh my my daughter's learning how to ride a bike and uh my son just got a new bike that he is uh is good at riding so my kids have been bike riding a lot this summer which very wholesome which is kind of nice too yeah yeah remember riding a bike remember being excited to ride a bike i do remember my my first bike was a red bmx with red tires and i thought it was so cool because when I because I didn't have a

handlebar brakes it had the the back pedal brakes I hated that I would I would slam those suckers on and there would just be red streaks all over the road from my tires it was a nightmare as a way to pop your tires almost instantly yeah I know it was just like there was no gradual braking it was just the sudden you're you're braking and skidding. It was great. I loved it. They made it with different stuff back then. I was skidding all over the place and never popped a tire.

My friends popped my tires and I never forgave them for it. It was pretty rough. Did you ever put like baseball cards in your spokes and stuff at the back of your bike? No, we had spokey-dokies. Oh, like the plastic things that, like, fell down the spokes. Yeah, so you sort of, as you cycled, it went tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle, like that. We had those. Did you have, like, rainbow streamers on your handlebars and stuff, too? Some lads had the streamers, yeah. But yeah, so my bike was a pedal backwards. It was a BMX,

so that was the thing. I mean, you know, it's actually pretty good because in a way it means you don't have brake cables in the way, which is a big thing if you're a hot BMXer. But unfortunately, there was a suspension bridge near us. It's called the suspension bridge. It's not a very fancy bridge, but it's a suspension bridge, and it's covered with, you know what, this gives me massive Tr triforce deja vu.

I am a hundred percent sure I've talked about this before, but it was like a sandpaper. It's not ringing any bells with me. So, well, then obviously we've never spoken about it before on the bridge, on the, the,

the sort of planks. They had adhered a sandpaper, like gripping surface. That was like pebbles in glue right to stop people this is this is coming back to me yes that was the point where i remember when i described the surface i thought aha i've talked about this before and my friend cycled my bmx really fast did the back pedal and skidded like 20 feet and burst my back tire and had to carry it home it might have even been this year that i told that story so i do apologize regular listeners but i don't i don't know i mean i i don't remember hearing i thought

you were gonna i thought you're gonna get injured on the sandpaper no i was not injured no he burst my back tire with friction bike was yeah well pure friction fascinating jesus christ fascinating stuff that is it for today thank you everyone this has been a ride as you can tell we've not done much except play play up and watch telly this week but I'm sure we'll have some more interesting stuff I'm coming out of Bristol today so we'll talk about that next week

have a good trip it's not really much of a trip is it it's just kind of up the road for you right how long does it take you to drive it's two hours but more importantly it's the friends that i get to see there what uh just uh just out of interest when you're doing your two-hour road trip up to bristol you got any uh favorite stop off so you got there's got to be like a roadside i do not stop you don't i do not stop not even a little chef or anything at all come on

I'm the classic dad once he gets going that's it this trained has no brakes I am just going loves you have to beg me to stop the car if I see a rest stop I'm even if I'm not hungry or thirsty. I'm going to check no way no way I've always said can we stop for the next one like every time? Either of you a fucking lift i'm telling you when you're on the road in uh in canada a lot of the rest stops at least when i was uh when i was younger and we would do road trips either from ottawa to montreal or occasionally from ottawa to toronto to like visit friends or whatever you had wendy's um usually it was like tim hortons w Wendy's, sometimes like Pizza Hut or KFC or something like that. But Wendy's, oh man, you go into Wendy's and get a Frosty and you just have a nice like chocolatey ice cream milkshakey thing to eat in the car.

It was really nice and refreshing, like just really good. We stopped for lunch or fuel. That's it. Right. If it's lunchtime, we're stopping. We need fuel, we're stopping. But otherwise, we we ain't stopping you're stopping if someone okay but if you stop for fuel someone needs you might get a snack too right if i stop for petrol of course i'll come back with haribo i'll come back with with uh with tic tacs chewing gum mentos normally not gum actually because you

gotta then leave it in the car so it's not crisp my my brother was uh my brother was six years younger than uh was and still is he's he is six years younger than me but you know when i was like say 11 or 10 or whatever and he was much smaller uh i feel like i had a very typical north american upbringing in the sense that summer vacation normally involved driving somewhere very far yeah so you know we'd be sitting in the back of the car with not much to do or whatever my dad would stop somewhere and we'd get a coke and i remember my my brother would always get a bottle of coke a plastic bottle of coke but because he was so much smaller or whatever if he had a snack with it or or whatever he would backwash so bad and there would just be big chunks floating around in that bad boy that's that and

now i associate it so heavily with road trips now like if somebody even mentions road trip all i see is a bottle of coke with chunks oh that's disgusting that's yeah it's brutal eh like it's such a traumatizing thing for me well god i think you need to get some therapy about that well yeah i got a lot of unpacking to do. And now I do, too. Now I've got to actually pack and get dressed and get down there, so we better call this. All right, yes, thank you, everyone. Peace out.

We'll leave you with that. Yeah. Enjoy. Merry Christmas. See you soon. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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