Triforce! - Triforce! #249: The Freshly Shaved Fondler

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Triforce! Episode 249! Freshly shaved Flax goes for a meal with Joseph Quinn (Eddie Munson in Stranger Things), Sips wants to fly a Cessna to France and Lewis has a million projects he's never finished. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickaxe. Introducing the first ever Mazda CX-70, our largest two-row SUV, available as a mild hybrid inline six turbo or as a plug-in hybrid, crafted to move every part of you. Hello, good morning, welcome to the Triforce Podcast. I want to start this off with a bombshell. Oh my god, I'm not ready. I sit before you this morning, a man with a shaved scrotum. No way! Oh yeah, of course, yeah, in preparation for your big day. Manana, it's man preparation for your big day. Manana. It's manana.

Oh, my God. I have never, ever shaved my scrotum before. Let me tell you, it's phenomenal. Is it? I cannot stop playing with this thing. It's like having a fidget toy in my pants all the time. It's amazing. Did you go in really close?

Oh, I went wet shave there like oh i went wet shave baby i went wet shave oh my like it was like it was it felt like an old man's face because it was still quite rugged because it's a scrotum but it was like a slight very slight hint of bristle so let me tell you it is amazing i'm not going to do it i'm not going to get into the habit of it but i'm just saying i really didn't think it was going to be my cup of tea i'm loving it i am loving it and i'm loving life holy crap you're preaching to the converted dude there's tons of men out there who are who are you know busy i just haven't got the time to be doing this all the time it's just ridiculous what do you mean i mean i'm not gonna spend the first of all it took me like 20 minutes because I was being extra, extra careful.

I don't know if I want to spend 20 minutes a day shaving my privates. What do you mean? You're not like Homer Simpson getting a 5 o'clock shadow by, you know, like 4.30 in the afternoon. It's not... I mean, yeah, but so how long does it last? Like a couple of days.

You're going to have to reshave. It's going to grow back, right? Yeah. But I'm worried about the ingrowing hairs and stuff like that. Yeah. It might get a bit itchy, but you get used to it. Did you just shave your balls or did you just shave everything? No, I trimmed everywhere.

I do that anyway. I do that anyway. I trim it down. I don't just sit there with caveman bush. We sort of expected this. I just let it flow. You were very apprehensive about it last week. No, I was not apprehensive about the procedure, just to point out. I was apprehensive

about this one aspect of it. Which is I didn't want to cut my nuts with a razor. You could just have a whip around in the shower. It's fine. No, it's got to be just right. And remember, they sent me a photograph of what they're after. And I'll tell you what. They want it not a single.

They want it shorn, fully shorn. Right. Because it makes the procedure easier. They're going to test you. What happens if you turn up on the day and you just haven't done it? I assume they might do it then and there. Yeah, they probably do right because i was thinking like before i had to give myself an enema before i had that probe in

my ass and i was toying with the idea of just not doing it like uh yeah i was just gonna turn up and say oh yeah did you do your enema yeah yeah i did it yeah oh i see and then you know when it comes to they're like jesus there's a lot of shit in here you sure you did your animal yeah i mean yeah oh my god shitty ass excessively shitty ass sorry well i don't know why i expected when i was walking in to do this podcast this morning i guess i guess just this you know i guess i guess is this what happens though when you get older you start talking more and more about medical stuff that's going on voluntary this is a voluntary way of coping you're you're not you're you're no longer like the um you're you're no you're no longer like

the lean trim you know sex ferrari that you were when you were you never were a young a young buck but you look back you look back on those days and imagine that you were, right? And imagine that you were. Or imagine that you missed it somehow. Yeah. And so that's why you spend most of your older years commenting on it. Because you're just trying to cope with the changes. You're just trying to kind of bamboozle yourself a little bit.

Make yourself feel better about everything. But deep down, you know, you know? You know? I've just finished watching season two of The White Lotus, which is a great show. Really, really good. Right. And that's kind of a running theme of those is like rich people

or like older people being attracted to young people and kind of like trying to either take advantage of them or being taken advantage of in many cases actually it's kind of like i don't know it's quite by the older people being taken advantage of i guess or at least or at least people thinking they people being kind of obsessed with sex in a sense and and feeling like they should be or shouldn't be doing it or not do you mean like i don't know it's it's kind of and that'll solve their problems in in a way right it's like oh god if i was having sex with a hot young guy maybe it would be solving all my problems kind of thing but it's um it's just so well done i really really enjoyed it um really recommend is there only two seasons of it yeah

yeah but it's it's and the second season's got an entirely different cast as well it's set in a different place oh yeah the first first season is set in like maui like the hawaiian right island and then second one is in sicily it's like the same resort it's like the white lotus resort hotel okay but it's super luxe hotel right right but so it's it's about a place more so than about like a cast of people yeah i'm really tiptoeing around spoilers very carefully because i think it's not worth um giving you too much too much info sure i think it's just great though that's neat yeah i like the sound yeah i think i think jennifer coolidge won an award for it who you might know is she did yeah she was great. Stiff as mum. Stiff as mum. Got it going.

I think she's had a really late sort of blossoming to her career. And I think it's really interesting to see people. Because she's been in so many things. Like American Pie. She was in. Oh, yeah. I couldn't place her, but now I know. Legally Blonde as well. Legally Blonde.

She was the bend and snap. She was the hairdresser who had to learn how to do the bend and snap and all that kind of stuff. And she always played these kind of quiet bit part roles, I think. Yes. And sort of people's moms and stuff like that. And now she's got this incredible, in the first series of White Lotus, I haven't seen the second series, so she's in the second series as well, is she?

Yeah, she's brilliant. Okay, so she's phenomenal the second series as well, is she? Yeah, she's brilliant, yeah. Okay, so she's phenomenal. She's really, really, really, really good. And it's just great to see these actors who've been around for ages just plugging away and doing their thing. Yeah, yeah. Getting some luck. Yeah, the Oscars coming up as well, which is always, I mean, after last year, fuck. Yeah, I wonder who's

gonna get uh punched in the face this year or maybe somebody maybe even they'll have to up their game right they might have to yeah yeah which obviously has not or has it damaged will smith's career i assume it has oh it has yeah he got dropped from a lot of things i think it has yeah i don't i won't watch anything with him in now because i found it so unpleasant and weird that i can't look past it yeah i don't care what your take on it is listener to me it was just like this is so fucking weird yeah like this is so fucking weird i'm out i'm out i never really liked will smith anyway i liked fresh prince when i was a kid he's made a lot of turns he's made a lot of turns yes but the the craziest about it, and I know this is old news and not even really worth talking about or whatever, but the thing that always surprises me about it is that he's a guy who's been in the limelight for so long.

You would have thought that he would have had a bit of a thicker skin by now. I'd understand if he was at the start of his career and you know and it was just like you know he wasn't accustomed to you know having to deal with criticism or uh you know people people poking fun at him or whatever but like at this point i mean surely he would have he should have had some coping skills you know what i mean like apparently not he's a giant baby with a massive ego it's just wild yeah yeah it just goes to show that even the most successful and rich folks can still be just massive yeah man children it's true you know what i actually had a very interesting last friday and i thought you guys might want to hear about it we're talking about actors so it it it hones in on that quite neatly do you

want to hear about it sure please so i uh i went out um into london to meet up with uh some friends of mine uh if you're a dota fan blitz um he's like the coach of oh yes team liquid and he's the guy who played a lot of storm spirit storm spirit that's his thing yeah so me and will have known each other for like 10 years now um he's a good probably my one of my absolute best mates on the on the dover scene love the guy every time he comes over to london we hang out and he comes over quite often because um his girlfriend is is welsh so he comes over to the uk they come up to london we go out for a meal we go out for some drinks and stuff like that so he's he's good friends with um do you guys know

the actor asa butterfield no look him up'll recognize him. He's been in tons of stuff. Asa Butterfield. Asa Butterfield. British actor. Lives in London. Big Dota fan. He's like associated with Team Liquid. He's like a sort of face of Team Liquid. Sort of promotioning it. Stuff like that. Oh my god. He's a very young looking boy. He's a very young looking guy. So I did

we went out for dinner and it was me and Will and Asa He was in Ender's Game. That's where I recognize him from. He's been in a ton will and so and asa and he was like ender's game that's where i recognize him he's been in a ton of stuff he was ender from the movie ender's game yeah so if you look at asa butterfield you will have seen a film that that he's in he's been in a whole bunch of things and they were like so it was asa and like four of his mates and then there were two other actors turned up one of them is a guy called alex wolf who was um the boy in hereditary if you've seen the film hereditary he was the guy

in that he's also been in a bunch of things the other one was joseph quinn who i hadn't heard of because i haven't seen the fifth series of stranger things he is eddie munson in stranger things okay and is apparently fucking hugely famous now and i i i've not heard of him because i haven't seen the series of stranger things okay sure but um he. But he was really, really, really nice. Him and Alex were really, really, really nice. And I was like, wow, I'm actually out for a meal with famous people. It felt very exciting. Right.

But I contained myself. However, I told my youngest I was going out. She said, who are you going out with? And I said, this guy called Joseph Quinn. She almost fell over because she is a huge stranger things fan she literally loves eddie munson she loves joseph quinn she she literally almost went white and fell over i'm not no exaggeration and i was like do you want me to get a typical teen girl reaction yeah exactly so i said do you want me to get a picture with him she was like please daddy please

get that picture and i went out to meet them and she kept messaging me all the way up until she went to bed like every 10 minutes are your friends there yet did you see your friends yet how's it going daddy just checking you're all good are your friends there yet and um and i i just said look they're not here yet love but i promise i'll get you that picture and me and will had a chat about um about it before and i did get the picture to spoil the story i did get the picture I said to Joseph after we've been chatting for a while would it be okay it's for my daughter he said absolutely yes no problem he's quite posh sounding English lad really really sweet guy and he was like absolutely so we got the picture

I thought we were just chatting we chatted about how great southwest London is because he's like from Clapham and everything just the nicest dude But the embarrassing bit was we all sit down for the meal and Asa's face is currently plastered on buses all over London because he's in some show. Right. And the waiter recognizes Asa, quite a young waiter, panics and spills Asa's drink all over Asa. Literally dumps it all down his back.

And it was like, it was so bad. And it was a very expensive restaurant. And the guy, the manager and the manageress were over in like a heartbeat. We're so sorry. They're comping stuff and all this, the rest of it. And the waiter was just trembling. And he said, I'm so sorry. I just recognized you.

And I'm really nervous. And Asa was like, it's okay. Don't worry about it. But it was literally like the worst place you could spill a drink would be the front of someone because it ruins their whole evening basically but the second worst would be all the way down their back like from his neck all the way down which is soaked oh no with with uh with a cocktail so yeah it was kind of embarrassing but um it was a very cool evening and it was great chatting to them and they were they were just so lovely why didn't you start with that story instead of the flippin shaved scroll that you've been fondling i'm just i can't get that out of my

head now that you're just like while you're telling me this story it's not in any chronological he's just doing a big brain dump he's got a lot yeah he's good yeah which so can't you say what restaurant you went to and stuff are you trying to keep it secret now for some reason it's not like their favorite place it was it's i mean place. I mean, I don't want to burn the restaurant and people think it's a bad restaurant. Was it Ramsey's fish and chips? No, no, it wasn't. It was a nice restaurant.

It was nice. The food was really good. It was like, it was good. It was good. What kind of food was it? You're not going to detective this. No, I don't want to. I'm just asking. What's big right now? Dumplings. Everybody's talking about dumplings.

It wasn't dumplings. Was it Korean barbecue? No, it was not KBBQ. All right. So just the four of you lads were out on a... No, no, no. There was like 10 of us. Right.

Who else was there? Well, so it was Asa, Joe, Alex, Blitz, and me. And then it was... That's the celebrities. And then all the hangers-on. And then it was that's the celebrities and then all the hangers on and then it was four of of um Ace's friends right and these are the guys that he plays Dota with like every day so he's a massive Dota fiend what rank is he though he's about he's low ancient oh okay oh wow that's actually really good yeah and uh and the funny thing is is the guys that were there

also work in like various sort of, um, TV or, or, or special effects and stuff like that. So one of them is, uh, does VFX and he had been working on stranger things and had never met Joe, but had been like touching up his face or adding effects to things for like six months prior to meeting him. So he's like, it's so weird seeing him. Cause i've been staring at his face for six months on a monitor like doing vfx on it and now there he is so that was funny nice and his girlfriend um does costumes for london theater and mrs f and and uh the youngest f had been to the theater to see the show that she was working on it was um the witness for the prosecution which

is quite an old play, but they redone it where the audience actually sits in a courthouse. Sort of an old courthouse. So you're sort of in the courtroom, as it were, in the trial, which was really cool. So I told her that my wife and my youngest absolutely loved that.

She was very pleased. It was great. It was just a really fun evening, and it was a good bunch of people I didn't feel like you know I've met famous people before and you've kind of feel like you're on on the Tent of hooks and you don't want to piss him off and they kind of want to go and and they want to go hang Out with someone else everything but they were just ready. You know, they were just super super chill. It was really really nice But we'll told me this story about is it what is it maisie williams who was in game of thrones

yeah sure she played uh aria stark right she was aria stark so when that show was at its peak for whatever reason they they met her they were they they went out for for an evening with her i think probably through asa or something like that and she was staying at a hotel and they went to pick her up and they were going to eat in the restaurant that's in the hotel in order to get they had to walk from the elevators to the restaurant through the lobby and she got stopped 15 times on the way from the elevator to the restaurant holy crap by people in the lobby by fans and stuff like that not people who were like looking for her but her face was like one of the faces of game of thrones it was yeah it was uh like exactly so everyone that

stopped it was like gushing oh my god you changed my life and i your character this and the other and going overboard and all the rest of it and by the time they got she got from the elevator to the restaurant she'd had enough she's like i'm just gonna go back to my room so the cost of being that yeah mega famous we were discussing it how hard i mean i i get it nobody's got sympathy for these kids because they're rich and all the rest of it. And just like, oh, you know who you're getting into and all the rest of it. But what a change of pace. I mean, you've gone from being able to do this industry, work in TV, work in theater and all that. And then you get one big role and all of a sudden you can't leave the house.

And you'll have people following you around trying to figure out where you live. You'll have people coming up to you all the time. And for them, it's a huge deal. And and for you you're just trying to get to the news agent so it must it must suck it must absolutely it's the same thing with joffrey right he got like so much hate for it and stuff oh my god yeah recognition kind of i don't know what you have to like change your look completely though you know like you have to play joffrey clean clean shaven and then in your in your private life you just have to have a massive beard and sunglasses all the time and stuff you know yeah you go fully undercover yeah that's yeah yeah can i just say for anyone's thinking that

i'm i'm bigging myself up in any way by by telling this you want the big you want the big up this week no i'm not gonna take it i'll tell you how the evening ended okay and you will realize that i was wildly out of my depth you are allowed to be as you are a big celebrity in the dota world you know to me like a lot of the things a lot of things this is i'm sure i've talked about this before but people have their own celebrities based that aren't necessarily you know that big you know you're a big dota guy you're a celebrity Dota celebrity, Pflex. You know, Mr. Butterfield, I'm sure that you are, you know, up there. Someone he'd want to meet and want to talk to, you know, on the list. So he came, I did a pub stomp for TI3. We did a pub stomp in a pub in North London.

TI3. TI3. Seven or eight years ago. Ten years ago. Ten years ago. Is this going to be one of those stories where at the time you were big time and he wasn't, and you snubbed him, and now he's big time and he's mentioning him back to you. Did he call you a bozo as well at the same time? You're never going to forget that, are you?

One bad email is defining your triforce experience. That's the thing. I'm not used to getting them, so when I get one, it sticks. I'm trying to go to sleep. They call me a bozo. It sticks. I'm sorry. I won't read any more negatively I'll filter them and if there's anything negative about sips in there I'm fragile I'm a fragile I'll run it by his people first then please yeah fire them so I did this pub stomp this was that the good studio asked me to do coverage of these games live from a pub

in London to sort of show off the international nature of TI, where people were having these pub stomps all over the place. For anyone who doesn't know, a pub stomp is literally everybody turns up in a pub and you put Dota on a big screen or whatever game it is, StarCraft II, whatever. So I went there to run that with Cyborg Matt, who people might know as now he's the manager of Team Secret. He used to be like just a community guy like me, did videos and stuff like that. And Acer and his mate turned up. They were 15 at the time and they got in and they were watching the Dota and they said hi and I said hi to them and we were watching the game and stuff like that. So we've known each other for at a sort of arm's length, I'd say, for a decent amount of

time because I don't play a lot of Dota other than with the lads I normally play Dota with. Will does invite me to stack sometimes, but it's always at like 4.30. I'm like, I don't want to get into a game at 4.30 or it's like 1am and I'm like, I want to go to bed. I don't want to play Dota. So we actually haven't played Dota together, even though I've known him for a while. But so the weird thing is that he's been a Dota fan for that long. Like he is legit a Dota fan. I've seen him at pretty much every TI. He goes there and he went to the stockholm major and he goes to lots of majors him and his mates go over there and go to these games so it was quite funny but one of his mates that was there that night leaned over to me

in the meal and you you know what he said um one one v one me mid noob no something that would associate all of us i i have a tiny penis. I have a tiny penis, yes. And I was like, okay, dude. I knew that was coming at some point. Which one said this? I'm not going to say. Just not one of the actors. Right, it was one of the...

It was one of Ace's mates. Right, okay. Okay, fair enough. Who I now consider one of my mates. But yeah, he's a good lad. But yeah, I'm not going to out him. But he's listening, he knows. Is he going to get the...

Does he get the big up then or what? Who's i i no one gets a big all right okay actually i'm gonna give joe quinn the big up because we were trying to find somewhere to get a drink places places were closing we didn't get the meal till quite late and then it was like 11 something and we're like shit where are we gonna go next so he knew a place it was like a knock bar in soho where you knock and you have to show your face and do the right nod and know the guy and it's like a member underground members club in so there's always someone who knows yeah like a lock yeah trendy guy amongst your team exactly and we went into this really cool underground jazz bar with all these really funky soho types in there and i was like this is so cool cool. And that was awesome.

So I'm going to give Joe the big up. I'm going to give a big un-up, a big down, to a club called The Box, which I'd never heard of. A lot of people in London have apparently heard of it. It's like a sex club in the middle of Soho where they have a live stage show

where they do all kinds of revolting things on stage. That was the only place we could think of to go to because the guys were quite you want to go somewhere that's like open and it's getting close to 3 a.m right so we try to go to get in and the celebrities pull their do you know who i am thing but in a subtle way um and the maitre d comes out and she's like uh okay yeah you guys can come in as we're filtering in the famous lads are at the front and then it starts to get a little closer and closer and i realized oh they're gonna not let me in i was just wearing like a shirt corduroy

trousers trainers and i have my big hairy parker on sure she was like i think we're gonna stop it there for now and stop me from coming in. Oh, no. I was like, all right, guys, it's pretty late. I'll see you later. And they were like, oh, and they were like, bye. And I gave everyone a hug and everything. And off I went. So I was the least cool person.

I didn't get into the box. Well, you could have wore something a little bit more. Everyone was dressed casually. Everyone was dressed less casual that happened to me casual dad is what i look honestly they're kind of like blessings in disguise when that happens all right because like i i know there's been times where like i've had something like that happen to me but it's turned out to be like the best thing you know like you hear you hear like a horror story of what happened after and you're like, fuck, I'm glad I wasn't there. Or you go home and you just like have like a really, you know,

good time playing Dota or something. And you're like, oh, that's great. I'm glad I went home to play Dota instead or whatever. Right. Making the best of it. No, this happened exclusively, you know, when I was in my sex ferrari years uh as sips puts it you know yeah when i should have been the cool guy at the front

i was the guy i was that guy p flag so you know i've been i've always i've always been that guy i've always been that guy if there's a cool thing that you can get into if you're cool the cool people take one look at me and they're like this guy is definitely not oh man i think the thing is though like i don't know maybe not you guys so much because i think you guys are a bit cooler but i i look like somebody who has three kids and people sense it from like a mile away they're like uh this guy is not we're not letting this guy into anything this guy's not allowed to have fun this guy needs needs to know his place. Go home. Go home to your kids, you old bastard. Get out of here. We don't want you in our

sex club. We want young, spunky people in this club, not you. I mean, everyone else that was queuing up, because there were huge queues to get in. Yeah, I bet. A lot of them looked very cool. Yeah. And I really didn't look no i looked

like i like honestly the gathering nerd who was building up for a school shooting do you know i mean that's what that was my vibe throughout my teens and 20s um i think that evening i looked like i probably in their eyes at first glance looked like a pervert right it's the parker doesn't help you were going into a sex club though i mean i know i think you're you're most people can that's that's the one place you can get away with looking like a pervert you'd think you'd think i tell you what actually i tell you what that's bad manners by asa because what he should have done was go in last right yeah no no no no you should have called the whole thing off you should say okay everybody that's it we are not going to what's this place called the box this place sucks let's get out of here and then go on somewhere else right

single time okay here's the thing i i do go to these parties at twitch con and things like this right and every time if i'm on the list and my friends aren't on the list i send them in right uh i'm like i send them in and i i either wait around or go last because i know that i'm on the list so it's only a matter of time before someone i can like convince someone to actually get me in as well right i'm i'm not i'm not gonna let other people take the fall for me i don't know i was i was happy for them to go in it we already tried to get in somewhere and been denied and everybody wanted to crack on and i was like like we tried to get into ronnie scott's which is like

a jazz club in in so do you not reckon it was his celebrity credentials that actually got him in this place it was just 100 percent no young and look nice right no no it was 100 but it didn't stretch to his tomb it didn't stretch to his dad it was too big no it's too yeah exactly yeah you can come in but not your uncle like that was it that's fair enough and honestly at that point in the evening he's got friends over he wants to go out and i mean they're the the guys joe and alex were over something. That's why they're in the UK. They're filming something. So they want to relax. It's Friday evening.

They want to go out to a club. I was like, absolutely get it. Go for it. Because we've already struggled to get into this other place and didn't get in. So go, Matt. However. Some people are such arseholes, though, eh? Like, you're with a group.

You let the whole group in. You know what I mean? Like, how can you fucking let three out of six people in in a group and and then just like stare them in the eye and say no so you're not coming in like fuck who the fuck are you like you know what i mean like i mean not only that but almost it implies that you're like the opposite of the kind of person they want in there like you're not worth your money is not even even worth fuck that i was a hundred percent i totally understood their decision but so they got in there and there's like a downstairs and

an upstairs and i think the upstairs is where the show is it was so packed and so loud they couldn't even get upstairs it was oh wow okay so they just left after 20 minutes so most people do in these places though they go in there let's help jam pat it is and it's stinky and sweet and they're like like um god what was that thing um we were talking about so obviously when we did motion when we did york on at motion which is a usually a club but i think i think it's reopened probably. Was that the big outdoor factory? Yeah. They warned us that it's kind of hot in there. It was a hot day, so it was hot.

That is the fucking understatement of the century. But even in winter, it's just like the ceiling is like, it's raining. Sweat is raining in there. No, because the ceiling is just like so dripping on people that you're constantly like covered in other people's sweat. It's awful. Yeah, it was awful. Some of these clubs.

Yeah. Like, you know, Duncan's been talking about, because we were mentioning TwitchCon. Well, the next one's in Vegas, right? Might be happening in Vegas. Yeah. Oh, wow. I've never been to Vegas. Yeah.

I think I'd get in trouble. It's all right. It's not that Oh, wow. I've never been to Vegas. I think I'd get in trouble. It's alright. It's not that great, honestly. It's not... It's worth a visit. It's a place that you go to where you're like, oh, wow, look, I've seen that, I know that, I know that, and after five minutes, you're like, oh, okay.

It's actually just casinos. If you've been to one, you've been all... And it's very safety helmet. No, I think I'd get into trouble as in I just sense that the trouble just because he knows like if you've been to one and it's very it's very safety protect very safety helmet you know they know i think i'd get into trouble as in i just sense that the trouble would be ruined for me in vegas there's a lot of holes in the desert in vegas that's all right no no what you don't mean like you'll get get addicted to gambling or you'd go off with a prostitute yeah there's a lot of prostitutes do you think the you think the temptation is too much for you? I just don't know. I don't know what would happen. I mean, a man in Vegas with a little bit of money in his pocket,

a Parker and a Sean Scrotum, anything can happen. You never know. But the beauty of Vegas is what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. I don't think that's true. The jurisdiction of the rest of the United States still applies, and I'm pretty sure that Vegas is many a that's true. The jurisdiction of the rest of the United States still applies. And I'm pretty sure that Vegas is many, many, many a person's ruin. All it takes is for one attractive young man or woman to come up to you and whisper in your ear, I have a tiny penis.

And that's it. The evening takes a turn. The evening just takes a massive turn. And then it's like a montage in a movie like that you do cocaine and you convince you to try crack for the first time and stuff and you shit your pants and you're dancing on the stage at the the box you know showing off your shaved box yeah um exactly crap yeah it's it's i don't know like i think i think you'll find it's such a tourist destination. It's supposed to be everyone's having a nice, safe, good time.

It's not like the Vegas mafia days when they ran the town. Well, I think even then you only got in trouble if you were not paying. Do you know what I mean? I feel like they didn't bother you if you weren't a problem, right? I doubt you're going to be gambling money you don't have and stuff well yeah but you've seen goodfellas right spider gets shot but just for getting the drinks wrong you know it's spider is uh is is played by uh wait no which one's spider christopher malta santa that's right yeah yeah from sopr? You've been in fucking gaming. You want gaming table? We got a gaming table.

You want the blackjack table we have. This is casino after all. You want the gaming table or you want table to rest shaped scrotum on? To everybody. Table to dance on. You want table to eat on, we have a table.

We have table. Believe it or not, we have table table. It's a table with a smaller table just to show off. You can show off all of your tables. Yeah, it's like, but Ravs was talking to me, because they went to TwitchCon San Diego and then went to Vegas for a week afterwards. But now they're like, fuck, we can just go to Vegas. They're kind of disappointed because a lot of them are Rolando's, for example, and Ravs.

They always wanted to go to Vegas and they were like, this is my best chance because it's kind of on the way. It's a bit out there for Europeans. It's definitely somewhere you'd have to plan to go to, right? Like, it's not easy. If you're in America, you can road trip it, like with most things, I suppose. You could just drive for a couple of days and get there. Yeah, I get the impression Ravs wasn't disappointed, but I think he had a great time. But obviously, he went with Duncan and Oates, who are a little bit of the kind of people who stay up till 5 a.m anyway right and so they love

that drinking pubby night culture and i think they were just taking full advantage of going to nightclubs so they did vegas but basically did vegas from you know 5 p.m to 5 a.m every day yeah like kind of that that would be a concern because i i the night owl. I will happily stay up and go out. I'm the same. Man, I love being up at night. Like, till super late. Yeah, same. I mean, we've done lock-ins and stuff when I'm down there until five in the morning and it gets messy.

Yeah. And you suddenly realize, holy shit, I'm really drunk. I've been drinking for like 10 hours and it's 5 a.m. So I'm going to go to bed. And then it's like the whole next day is a write-off but it's that's how i i think i think the problem i have is that hanging out with these guys is so much fun right yeah duncan o's rabs these guys are so much fun to hang out with that you you just want to you don't want to stop i don't know and the drink sort of leads to that more as well right

and then oh yeah and then no one wants to be the first person to go home because everyone's having such a good time, which is a good problem to have, right? Sure, yeah. But it does lead to you doing things like it gets to three or four in the morning and people are like, where can we go now, right? Or you get locked in at the pub.

And if you get locked in, you have to stay at least a couple of hours, right? Because otherwise it's like going into the club and then leaving immediately. It's like, oh, you can't do that. So, I hours right because otherwise it's like it's like going into the the club and then leaving immediately it's like oh you can't do that so i don't know there's all these like you start the night with shade with uh shade balls and by the time you get home it's all grown back it's all hairy balls again it's hairy balls time folks time to go home holy crap and it tends to be weird places that are open like that late, you know, like odd places. Like, I guess like sex clubs, but also just like karaoke bars and stuff.

Like, I don't know, like weird places. And there's like a hookah bar or whatever. Yeah. Hookah bar? You can't get booze in a hookah bar though, a lot of them. The one in Bristol is dry. Well, Rabs and Duncan managed to find one so in vegas no no in bristol i mean in vegas i think it never never turns off right it's like kind of the whole thing is just constantly going it can't be the usual one that we go to

in bristol then because that is definitely a no booze zone oh right everyone in there stone cold sober and just kind of stares at you right sounds like my kind of place different different kind of this but i guess like yeah so they they i think they'd like to go again but razz was kind of lamenting the fact that he hadn't done any of the vegas stuff right he hadn't really walked down the strip he hadn't really like well he can still do that went with the twitch con on right you're not yeah this is what i said i was like i was like it's great really because there's still plenty of stuff you should do like here like not necessarily cirque du soleil but like some of the shows are like yeah it's good to just see a show and really impressive and like i don't know just just just walk through some of these big epic hotel lobbies and and see some stuff whereas he was like you know we were like it was always dark i think i think

the best thing about vegas and this is going to sound like the most dad thing you've ever heard but the proximity of the strip to the airport is incredible like it right you know you land in a city normally and you're like oh well i gotta sit in a car for like an hour and a half in traffic or getting to where i'm going or whatever in vegas you land you get into your taxi and then like three minutes later you're at your hotel it's insane so and also you're pretty much always gonna stay on the strip for the most of the week but even if you want to like well there's just there's really just the strip and then lots of suburbs right like it's not it's like out the out it's not that much i think i think we did like shoot guns at one of these places around the suburbs you know this is sort of something to do

and so yeah there's still like i guess there's like plenty of things there's loads of things to do yeah in in vegas and i think yeah other than just get drunk every day i think you can do a helicopter tour of the grand canyon like there's a lot of Grand Canyon stuff around. Oh, sure. Things too, right? Like, because it's somewhat. I don't think I'm ever going to get in a helicopter if I can possibly help it. Yeah, I don't know.

They seem incredibly dangerous. I would love to go in one just to experience it, but I would be scared the whole time. I have been in one one time when I was at school. I know Lewis was in the cadets as well. when I was at school. I know Lewis was in the cadets as well. I was in the Navy section and we took a trip to a naval base in Portsmouth and we took a helicopter ride from land

out to a small carrier at sea that had like a helipad on it. I think it was probably a destroyer and had a helipad on it. So we flew out, landed on the destroyer, had a tour of it and then got a boat back, which was very cool. That sounds pretty cool do i would like to do something like that i think it was very cool but at the same time you know the loads of people die in in helicopters they're

just not very reliable no uh so uh i'm out i'm out thanks what about uh like a little cessna plane like would you ever do um you know sometimes you can get I don't know if there's like an air well I guess you got big airports but they don't really count but like over here it's small enough where there's like the airport also has you know like little private planes and they do like flight school you can get yeah like for your birthday you can get like an hour of like flying lessons or whatever i i i get it like i anyone that out there that it's like a pilot or or or into flying these little things i i understand i'm sure it's a ton of fun i just i'm i'm just i'm not a nervous flyer well actually i am i'm lying i would love to learn

how to fly one of those little planes and just go like fly over to like some small airport in france like even just once like i wouldn't want to do it all the time like i'd be too scared but just once just like just land in some field in france and just you know i don't really enjoy your and then go back home being in the air it's not for me i don't like being underwater i don't like being underground i don't like being up in the air i'm a ground i'm a sea level oh man they i was watching this i fucking hate when i do this as well. I was watching this thing. It's like, you know, like Slash R, interesting as fuck or whatever. Like, you know, those things.

They always have like, this is how they strip mine a coal mine now. And it's like, you see this guy with a GoPro crawling in this really, really, really, really small area that they've just like strip mined out like for coal and you just oh fuck i don't know how they do it like it's just the worst like just being underground it's dark you're like super enclosed and you're like just crawling around like you could just get like stuck awkwardly like oh god i can't even think't even think of it. It's like, it's like so fucking upsetting. Like what if you're crawling under there? And then all of a sudden you're just like, Oh shit, I put on like an extra pound and I,

now I'm jammed. That's it. Yeah. I just can't get out. Like, and it's impossible to like backtrack and like, Oh fuck, there's just no room to do it.

And you're just stuck. Oh God. It's like a nightmare. I don't know how they do it. God bless them for doing it, but fuck me guys. I would never do it. I i would i would shoot myself before i had to do that i'd be so just crazy just crazy i haven't done much else this week i've got to say i've still got a flight voucher from before covid um from a cancelled flight but it the flight i was on did

operate right so i couldn't couldn't get a refund. So I've got like £1,000 I need to spend on a flight at some point this year. And so I'm thinking, where does British Airways fly to? Go to Marbella. Just do like two weeks, no carbs before Marbs. Get there, have the time of your life, come home. Marbs. BA flies everywhere.

Yeah, they do. They actually fly everywhere, yeah. But for £ for a thousand pounds I don't know if you're wanting to just get a flight within the limit of that apparently flights are really expensive this year yeah yeah I think it was to Japan previously yeah I mean I don't

I can't imagine that you get a flight to Japan for less than a thousand here's something that you could think about they are offering people help to move to Venice you get a flight to Japan for less than a thousand. Oh, here's something that you could think about. They are offering people help to move to Venice. I was reading about this the other day. Venice has got a big issue. Well, it's got several big issues.

One of them is it's fucking sinking. Yes. But the other issue is people are moving away. Surprise, surprise. Yeah. Which came first? But not because of the sinking. Oh, right.

Not because of the sinking. They're moving away because- The smell. Anyone who's been to venice no it's not the smelly that you'd get used to tourists it's the tourists exactly right it's so i i've been there as a tourist and it feels like you're in a theme park and everything here is just a a thing for tourists to look at the only people there are tourists i mean i got a question for you for when not just you guys but for everybody else as well when you're when you're out somewhere and you're taking pictures of stuff do you actually look at these pictures ever again like what do you do with them yeah like i said i the other day i saw people taking pictures of like a like a tree or or something it was like lit up but it was like not worth taking a picture of and i was just thinking what the fuck are you taking a picture of here?

What are you going to do with this picture? If I took this picture, what the fuck would I do with it? They must just be posting it on social media. I think that's a big thing, yeah. I'm not being funny. I don't want to shout out a sponsor that isn't sponsoring this podcast this week, but when we got the Aura frame,

it really did. It was great because we put all our old holiday pictures on it from like pretty much when we had the kids up and some some from before right and it's just nice little memories it just reminds you hey remember this happy time you had it just it just lifts your mood it is good to do that it's good to talk about like when you're actually on holiday it's good to talk about what you've done every day and so maybe even like make a note because those days are busy and interesting and packed full of stuff and you've got like i mean we sort of go over it on the on the podcast a bit anyway you know but it's good to remind yourself of positive stuff because otherwise your brain doesn't keep track of it well right like we're animals who are kind of designed to learn by pain right like we we our brains remember things that are bad a lot more

easily than they do things that are good right so if you don't have a attitude of you know going over the good times and kind of remembering funny and good moments you know you it can impact your mood a bit i think um you know you to celebrate happy things that happen in your life. Celebrate the good. I mean, here's the thing. I think some people are just happier than us as well, Sips. Some people can get joy out of looking at fucking lights on a tree. I don't know who they are.

I like looking at lights on a tree. I like taking my kids to look at lights on a tree, but I don't need to fucking remember it for the rest of my life. Like, Jesus, it's just like you're enjoying the moment or whatever. I think photos are so disposable though right like i take i take photos of stuff just to remind myself like i'll go into a shop and i'll take a photo of a thing i want to buy i'm not against it don't get me wrong if you want to take a picture take a picture of whatever the fuck you want i'm curious to know if is that going in their scrapbook yeah what they're doing with

this after they've taken it or it like you said if it's just like a fire and forget it is so disposable well the other nice thing about if you take if you take like hundreds of them in my experience one of them i will look okay in you know um the only time i'll take a picture of something is sometimes i'll take a picture of something at a store because i can't be bothered describing it so then i could just like show it to my wife like oh yeah i saw this toilet or this sink or whatever um and and the only other time i'm taking a picture of something is to send it to somebody because it made me laugh or was you know shocking like i would take a picture of like a shit on the road or you know

like some funny graffiti or something like that to then send to somebody to hopefully make them laugh or something have you taken a picture of your scrotum p-flex no i haven't are you thinking about it no i'm not no what would you do with the she has seen it okay but what would you do if you took a picture of your your freshly shaved scrotum did you I guess you could take a picture and send it to your wife if she wasn't at home at the time. No, she just said, let's have a look, and I showed her and she laughed. That was it.

Right. Who wouldn't? Did she not have a feel? Did she not, like, cop a feel of the smooth, soft scrotum? But I told her. I told her. I leaned in. This is just, we've got friends staying with us right now, okay?

So we're just about to have dinner. Like, they're in the living room, we're in the kitchen. I leaned over to her and I said, you know, I can't stop playing with this thing. And she laughed herself silly because it was like, it's just this funny idea. Yeah, yeah. It is, yeah. It is. We were just about to settle down into a massive orgy.

We were just about to settle down into a massive orgy, and I leaned over to my wife and I said, I can't stop playing with my boys. They are so smooth. Oh, man. These guys are... This has changed my life, sweetheart. Really has. Oh, man.

I've got to shave my balls. I'm going to do it.. Oh, man. I'm going to shave my balls. I'm going to do it. One of these days, I'm going to... Man, I got to shave my face more often, too. Like, I just... I'm just... I don't know what it... Like, I know what you mean when you say you don't have time to shave your balls and stuff.

I don't either. But, like, I feel like I just don't have time to do anything. It's a combination of feeling like I don't have time to do it and really not wanting to do things as well. Exactly. You know what I mean? I think it's just a combination of all the demands already on you sort of thing, right? Yeah.

There's a lot of requests. There's lots that needs to be done, and then you sort of prioritize, but you prioritize in the weirdest ways. Like there's things that I should do and will only take me a second to do. But the mental hurdle of getting around to doing it seems so enormous that I can't do it. Oh my god. Well, this is one of the main things about like trying to feel happier is like to try and act on these things immediately and get the small tasks. Because otherwise one task that's like annoying becomes annoying for the whole day oh my god it's like so one thing we've been doing recently which has actually incredibly

um helped a little bit is our kitchen table we have really endeavored to keep clear so it's a dumping ground right like because it's right by the like the the door that we're using to to get into the house currently so the kids get in from school their bags go on their hats scarf whatever you know anything that they can they'll just dump onto the table and just leave it there and then and me and my wife are the same we'll come in and you know like receipt from the store or or anything so so our kitchen table is always just covered in stuff and it's a nightmare when you're, you know, trying to get dinner out or do anything sort of thing. So for the past like two weeks, we've both been like really proactively.

Like the minute anything is on the kitchen table, we put it somewhere or throw it out. Man, it makes such a big difference. Like just having a clear, for us, kitchen table, but also kitchen counters as well. We're keeping those clear too. And it's just like, it's such a game changer it's such a small thing but if you do keep on top of it it the uh the peace of mind is is amazing it's and again it is such a small thing but it's worth it worth keeping on top of it for sure i i have a bunch of things that i feel like are running through my head i want to do um and i feel bad for not following up i am the i'm the ultimate guy who is like starts a new project and then gets bored of it

oh yeah oh man i do that as soon as i feel a sense of completion right and i just don't fucking finish project i want to run like two rpgs and i've read the books and i've planned like half of the half of the story for it i mean but it's just like finishing it off and then inviting people and then running it like that it's so daunting that i don't want to do it and i've started my mum bought me a lego thing for christmas and i've done half of it and i bought all these art supplies and i've got it you know i've i've based the paper and that's it i mean like i've i just feel like i i'm like in this and not only that but like i'm half i've like written you know

a little bit of this um fighting fantasy book and i've sort of planned it but i haven't i've now got to actually write the damn fucking thing and i can't be arsed and then i've got like i've done half of this um i've like planned half of a board game that i want to want to design i keep coming up with the ideas in my head and writing them down but it's going nowhere i feel bad about it and it like bothers me like i just i hate i hate this i think i need to like take a i think i need to like take a day off like mondays and be like okay mondays i'm gonna work on my oh man every time i do that i should get something fucking done i sometimes do that where i'm like i'm gonna take like this day off and i'm gonna do all this stuff and then i'll take the day off and i'll be like holy shit i got this whole day i could really get stuck into

like a big session of hearts of iron or like victoria 3 or something and then i just do that and then i get to the end of the day i'm like i should have done all that stuff instead yeah playing well i mean to give you guys some idea, time goes so quickly, right? But it also feels like forever. So, Jingle Jam ended about two months ago. But it also feels like an incredibly long time since Jingle Jam ended. I feel like it was a long time ago, but it was two months ago. So, when I think about what's happened in that time,

I feel like there must have been stuff that I was doing, and things must have happened. But I think in general, if I looked at my calendar, I'm like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I did that. Oh, I did that. Like, I often look back at my calendar and I'm especially interested in my Google timeline. You know, when you go back and look at the Google timeline and see where you were. Right. It shows you exactly where you were. you were right and shows you exactly where you were so in response to you asking why people take pictures in a way i think without them we feel like we're just on at the edge of this riding

this surf yeah just plowing through our life and you kind of bits and bobs come back to you but it's like geez what have i done whereas when you take pictures it kind of solidifies that yes i am actually doing something and with my time um because otherwise all i have to really show for the last two months is i streamed some games like that's pretty much it and did this podcast yeah but i did it is nice to have a pin in the present and to be in the living be live in the moment and like look around you occasionally look up and just and just this is a meditative thing but also like an alan watts thing like that the meaning of life is is the is this is the current moment is is is here right now it's like this the joy of being in the present right like it's it's a kind of when you think about it it's an odd

moment where you're uh you know but because also you know we are getting older and it's it kind of feels like it's gone by fast right it goes faster and faster the older you get it's like and you kind of can't believe it you're like oh my god i remember when i was excited about going to vegas and that's then suddenly that's 10 years ago right and it's like time is this really odd thing that grabs you and yeah and and i'm sure for a lot of people it does feel like a tsunami right like pushing you forward like when you've got kids and jobs and and you gotta go to the dentist and get the shopping and and you know do doing this and this and that there's constantly demands on you and you're having a good time too and and that that just rip rules you along

yeah like this like like like it like on being a water slide or something you know just getting you know and sometimes then there's like a splash moment where you wake up and you're like oh my god what am i doing yeah like like and you feel bad but then you just i think i think people are more depressed if they stop in the moment though like and they start you know thinking too hard about yeah where they are and well they say that i remember am I doing. I remember when I was, I still do have trouble getting to sleep and have panic attacks sometimes going to sleep because I start to think and apparently

thinking about the future or the past or planning stuff like that overexcites your brain. I lay there for an hour last night just thinking and I hadn't even, I'd just been chill up to that point. I'd just been hanging out watching YouTube, playing some games.

Playing Second Front which is like an unbelievably nerdy hex. Oh yeah, you were telling us about this. I need to look this up actually. Oh, it's... It's heavy. It's a dense one. Oh my god.

So I was playing that and I did a cool Cthulhu thing with my mates and stuff like that. But I still couldn't get to sleep. So what you're meant to do is try to center yourself on the present and not let all this weight of either ideas that you've got,

things you're planning or things you should have done in the past and letting all that play over in your head. Try to silence all that. Try to just focus on where you are and what you're doing which is lying in bed focus on your breathing and your heart and just try to relax it's hard but it is a discipline to try to get into i'm at it so i just lie there for an hour until i get really tired um but yeah it's kind of bad uh can i just a quick mailbag yeah sure go for. Go for it. So this is from Josh RH.

Right. This is about the driving curse of the Triforce podcast. Be careful on those roads out there. Yes. I was driving home from work today at about 6 p.m. while listening to the latest mailbag episode. At the exact moment you guys were discussing the number of accidents people have whilst driving, listening to the podcast,

a metal pole flew off the back of a truck in front of me, under my car ripping my tires to shreds at 70 miles an hour luckily i managed to escape unharmed but my car is seemingly another victim of the triforce podcast driving curse the garage said it was a one in a million chance that i was even alive let alone unharmed stay safe on the roads everyone jesus yeah and there is a photo and his tire is indeed shredded to bits. Very lucky escape. See, there's some great moments to take a photo of that. I would take a picture of that for sure. There you go.

There are some things where, you know, like I'm criticizing people for taking pictures of a tree or whatever. But if my tire got shredded to hell by a pole that fell off a truck. And they pan through. They're like, wow, God, that tree's really colorful oh my god oh shit you're shaved balls jeez they all get a google drive and me and mrs f share the google drive so if i did take a picture of my knapsack it's right there and it might she might accidentally upload it to the fucking aura i would love that so much man man. Holy shit. You're just sitting there.

You've got the music on. It's snowing outside. Everybody's got eggnog and their fucking reindeer socks on. And then Grandma Flats screams. Nutsack. Don't look at that. One more

email or should we wrap it up there? Yeah, please. Yeah, I hope he's all right. That must really be stressful, but I'm glad he's not injured. He's okay. Thank goodness Josh is okay. So this is a TLDR. They've highlighted parts of the message.

Fuck, is it about Wisconsin? It is about Wisconsin. For fuck's sake. All right, we're not going to do it. Is it? Okay, just give us the TLDR of this Wisconsin rant.

The TLDR is still far too long to read. Oh, my God. I just wanted to point out how funny it is. Every time we criticize Wisconsin,

they point out, oh, but it's got these companies here. Yes. Turns out they have very thin skins. Jersey is fucking stupid and I sit in a garage all day. Yes, we know.

Because of the cold, freezing-ass weather in Wisconsin, they'd have thicker skins. You'd think, with all the cheese, they could just make a suit of cheese to cover their thin skin and deal with it that way. But it's literally, all it is is pointing out the many products and companies in Wisconsin.

Listen, Jacob, I'm sorry, buddy. We have many exports. We don't care. We export rubber. I mean, just as an example, additionally, every summer, Milwaukee holds Summerfest on the Milwaukee lakefront, which is not widely known, but it's one of the largest music festivals in the world. Up on the East Coast, yeah, we don't care, dude.

We don't care. It's not well known because nobody gives a fuck that's why yeah fuck music festivals as well man like oh god fuck those i mean when i was a teenager i went to a couple and you know i've just but but now i don't i don't want to go to i'm not i'm not probably what you're gonna let me in i love the i love the the we don't care line followed by lots of insults which is just going to return more emails about wisconsin yeah but actually music festivals are very cool uh you can go as an old man and you still have a nice time they have very good toilet facilities

these days and the drinks are not 12 pounds sure you know i'm sure wisconsin is fine i'm sure it's just fine listen you you think the wisconsinites are bad i have just been sent an email literally just arrived uh this is it what we need to do is criticize someone else right well pennsylvania baby uh right sips called it a shithole did i when when did i call it a shithole i never called pennsylvania a shithole i don't remember well that's what they said um but apparently you said what is pennsylvania known for right uh well this is about three pages of explanations of what is going on in pennsylvania and philadelphia Philadelphia. Thank you for the email that I'm not going to read, Andrew.

Is this shit just fucking people No, it's Americans, dude. It's Americans. You can't criticize America. I didn't realize that. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, I'm sure they're fine. I'm sure they're absolutely fine. Don't try to back out. Have some balls, man. Have some balls.

We don't give a shit about Wisconsin. You don't want to get more emails about this. You don't get them. I'm filtering them. I'm just reading them because it's funny that people are still emailing in about Wisconsin. We don't care, guys. We don't care. You should shit talk somewhere else. No, here's the thing.

Pennsylvania is where Dunder Mifflin is based, right? In the American office. It's where Dunder Mifflin is based, right? In the American office. I'm just astonished at the number of people from Wisconsin who are so thin-skinned. But here is a great email. I would like to, I think we could put a lid on this. This is from Ethan.

Right. This is great. The previous Wisconsin apologist is delusional and suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. As a former Wisconsin resident, I can confirm it is one of the worst places to live. It's flat as shit. There is nothing interesting in the whole state, just dairy farms. Even though it's far north, you'll still get 90

degrees weather and it's humid as hell. The winters are so awful you'll be blockaded in your house by sometimes a dozen feet of snow at minus 40 degrees. I remember running for my life as mosquitoes the size of my hands blotted out the sun in the evening my mother would be like the officer on a vietnam helicopter ushering us back into the house as thousands of mosquitoes battered against our home nothing to do so everyone is an alcoholic thank you ethan for

some balance on we balanced it out a little bit stop being so thin we need a we need a pennsylvania balancer as well if anybody is up to the task it's amazing with all those mosquitoes that they're so thin i tell you what though it's uh where i where i grew up it sounds the same uh in ontario it sounds it sounds the same it's like uh mosquitoes very humid summers very hot and humid summers very cold winters like you know dozens of feet of snow blocking you in in the winter. Yeah, and if you're part of Wisconsin that you've never left, you've never driven 10 minutes from your tranquil glades where you happen to have been brought up in a safe area is actually really fucking nice. Then, you know, why not? Why not just write in?

Don't write in. Stop writing in. give us your two cents never write in again no more do you know what I feel like I've just been you know how these people you have like echo chambers yes

we should go check there's gotta be like slash r slash Wisconsin I bet you all of these people are like confirmed my echo chamber like i believe that one a lot more than i believed the other ones right just because i don't know it's stupid how the human brain works right where it's where like but you can see how people fall for these people like andrew tate or whatever you know honestly because they they end up they you know you just want to believe it sometimes it seems so believable why do you want to believe that i was reading that

really interesting uh you want to believe what you already believe right you want to confirm your bias or whatever you want you want to be told things you already know yeah it feels good right to feel right it feels like, oh, I'm smart. I knew I should have been stubborn and dig my heels in about this really stupid thing, which I shouldn't believe. Some of this stuff is kind of interesting, though. I'll just say quickly, I don't want to get into it. But off the back of watching that big documentary series on the Holocaust in the U.S. and the Holocaust. Let's end on a down.

Yeah, we'll end on a down yeah i was just reading about some uh you know like so some of the literature that came out post-war about the rise of fascism and you know people's like perceptions of of fascism and really just how early the whole sort of transformation uh leading up to like the holocaust started and uh. And it's so gradual, but it's frightening that people can be led down this path so gradually and then arrive at just such an awful place. But it just becomes normalized. Like all these little things that change in their society, like towards becoming very fascist, it is also gradual and they and they just they just slowly

accept it over time yeah and then they they and then a lot of times people just have this realization and uh for one of the guys writing it the his realization came when like his really young son um came out with like just this really racist anti-semitic uh remark and he was like holy shit like it was just like one of those those moments where he was just like what the fuck are we doing like what have we what have we done like what have we become where this is this has become normalized and like my three-year-old kid whenever anyone says anything about tiktok though i guess so yeah it's a yeah it's wild to think it's it's it's interesting stuff to read about too just how how impressionable we can be and and if you apply that to some of the people

that become like uh really radicalized and stuff like that it's uh it's crazy we're very easily led the mind is wild species yeah very easily which is why you got to be careful yes you got to keep your eye out that encroaching forces of fascism that's it and if somebody writes into your podcast saying that Wisconsin is a really interesting be vigilant place we've got fascism here in Wisconsin

you guys forgot to mention it you've got to question it sometimes we've got so much fascism over here and it's the best in the country and it's covered in cheese Fascist cheese Love you Wisconsin Interesting you mentioned the holocaust

We invented it in Wisconsin actually Fucking assholes And now I'm with sips I'm with sips Fuck Wisconsin I'm deleting all Wisconsin email We've now got a feud No we need to be tolerant of Wisconsin.

No, I want to get rid of them. Don't be them. Let's block Triforce in Wisconsin. You're not allowed to listen to it anymore. You're too thin-skinned. We don't want to cause an upset. One of the ways that fascism works as well is that you identify a common enemy. So I say Wisconsin, we love you.

Let's unite. Fuck Pennsylvania. Am I i right let's go yeah i got friends oh that's the one that no one saw coming as you know what i will say this we have shit talked florida consistently on this podcast i think i think i think you're allowed to though i think even people who love florida shit talk it all the time I guarantee they do but all I'm saying it's a safe place of Wisconsin apparently Although the touchiest people in America so far the only state we've had to go out that has come back with this many dozens

Of emails in defense of Wisconsin as we do we don't care buddy. I'm sorry. We're gonna we're gonna trash you We've never been there people. We don't even know much about you. We don't care, buddy. I'm sorry. We're going to trash you. We've never been there. We don't even know much about you. We don't care. They must like it. Or they've never been anywhere else. I just think it's funny how defensive they're getting about their boring-ass state. Good luck. I've not been to that many places, honestly. You have. You've travelled fairly well.

Well, I've been around. I've seen a few things. But, I mean, I haven't been to all the American states. You've seen some shit. So I don't feel like any of us are qualified to make these calls. No've seen a few things. But, I mean, I haven't been to all the American states. He's seen some shit. So I don't feel like any of us are qualified to make these calls. No, but we didn't. We were joking, and they've taken it to heart because they're such little babies.

The Snowflake State is actually what it's known as, Wisconsin. That's their state flag. It's a giant fucking snowflake. Wow. We really are... It's just turning into the Joe Rogan podcast We've transitioned fully Well we've always had the lack of information

knowledge and fact and general level of disrespect and just believing everything we all say to each other so absolutely, we could go JRE on this I think that actually is what we're doing Fucking hell, thanks everyone We'll see you next time

Drive safe, see you next time. Drive safe. Drive safe. See you next time. Lots of love. Bye. Sorry about the balls thing. Bye. Bye.