Triforce! - Triforce! #257: Lewis becomes the Florida Man

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

Triforce! Episode 257! Lewis is back from a grand holiday in Florida and shares his stories! Meanwhile, Sips and Flax finished both Succession and Ted Lasso and had very different opinions about both! Go to http://auraframes.com/triforce to get up to $30 off Aura’s best-selling frames. Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

pickaxe hello everyone and welcome welcome to the triforce podcast oh my god oh it's nice to be back hey um how was how was your how was your trip I saw so many pictures of you at Disneyland. That man down in FL. Yeah. Oh, I just come back from Florida. I was actually late to this podcast recording because I overslept because of, you know, jet lag. And also, I didn't set an alarm.

I mean, you had a lovely week of weather here anyway, right? Oh, man, wasn't it? It's been glorious. I love it when it's sunny out, but also a hurricane at the same time. That's great. Apparently this is going to be the coldest June on record or something stupid like that. It has to have been the coldest May on record. It was dog shit. May was dog shit. It's usually nice here in May. Usually we have our summer in May here and the rest of the summer is not great, but not this year year it has been really bad there were there was like it was actual coat

weather in may quite often if i i have my window open in my little office here and there was like a chill breeze coming in all day and i found that now i'm getting older i uh i feel cold a lot of the time compared to my kids who were walking around with like a t-shirt shorts no socks no slippers and they're just like oh it who taught in here and i'm like freezing cold i i hate it but uh yeah so june is not going to offer any respite i'm sorry yeah i'm i'm the same like the first day at disney world i was wearing jeans i was just like it was like 30 degrees and i was like i'm fine wearing jeans all day um but uh I did actually buy some shorts and wear those for the rest of the week. Nice. Were they like Goof Troop shorts or did you get some Scrooge McDuck ones or

DuckTales? What did you combo with like, so you had your Goof Troop shorts on, but your DuckTales undies on underneath? Or like, what was the combo? Yeah, so, I had my Mickey Mouse gloves. Right. I had those big white boots. I actually did buy some Walt Disney World t-shirts when I was there. I just thought it was fun to embrace the spirit of Disney, of being at a place. Also, people respond differently to you when you're wearing

clothes that are saying local things like i bought like a few things when i was in saint pete which is oba's hometown in florida yeah but no one calls it that and you know so you have again let's embrace you have to embrace the local shit right i just want to for anyone who's not aware and just wants to be clear about where you are. Yeah, they might be looking St. Pete's. Right. So, we did two days in Walt Disney World.

Two days at the Walt Disney World Resort in Florida? That's the one over on the east coast, right? Near, that's Orlando. That's the Orlando one, yeah. How'd you get there? Did you drive? No. Did you take a magic shuttle bus?

Oh, well, Boba's friend picked us up from the airport. So you flew into Orlando. Yeah. Is that right? Then you went straight to Disneyland, or World, or whatever it is. And then you went from there to St. Petersburg. Yeah. And how did you get to St. Petersburg?

I mean, Uber. How? Fuck me. That's quite a drive. Yeah, it's a two-hour Uber. Jesus Christ. It wasn't even that bad. It was like $80.

You didn't want to get a hire car or something like that? It was like, it wasn't even, it was $80. Or like another flight? Like, can you not get like a little domestic flight? Two fucking hours, man. You just sit on the freeway for two hours. It's fine, actually. It's fine.

And did it rain a lot when you were in Florida? Because I always find boiling hot during the day and humid. And then in the evening, there's always a thunderstorm. But that might be a coastal thing. I don't know if that's the same in land. So, apparently it does rain a lot, and it did rain a few days we were there, but it was kind of funny. It was kind of like, their rain is not, at least when I was there, the rain was not real rain. You know, I'm used to it raining in the UK you laughed at the rain mocked their rain it was it was kind of half-assed rain like pussy rain yeah that sounds really fascinating that was a prince song wasn't it i wonder if it would have been a number one hit if it had been called pussy rain. I think it would be that these days.

There was this guy, the guy in the Uber, two hour Uber, he was playing the most relentless gangster rap. Nice. The most modern one. The lyrics were like, it's just about eating pussy and getting money. The rain where I'm from is better. We have better, we got harder rain and i wanted like that and i even like looked at i looked at boba and she said afterwards like yeah this is like worse than normal i wonder whether he's not a native english

speaker and he didn't like know that it was that bad you know yeah it was real bad anyway so did we did two days of all this which is which is interesting like we did um we did yeah it was real bad anyway so we did two days of world disney world which is which is interesting like we did um we did like it was interesting walking around star wars land and uh the epcot and things like this and i don't know like it's cool it's a cool place it was very like overwhelming you know there's so much to see so much going on so do you've been to the one in um anaheim right the the? The California one you went? Yeah. You must have gone when we went to BlizzCon one year, right?

I've been- I've done a day at Disneyland Japan, I've been to Euro Disney, I've been to Anaheim. Oh, so it's not like- it wasn't like this like a first-timer experience, like you kind of knew- I'm familiar with Disney, yeah, very familiar. Did you stay at Disneyland? We did. We stayed at the Wilderness Lodge, which is like Twin Peaks. Oh, we saw the picture. Yeah, we saw the picture.

So, you guys stayed there? Yeah, yeah. We stayed there for a couple of nights. So, does Disney own Twin Peaks? No. No, it's just themed that way. But can they do that? Well, it's not themed after.

It just looks very similar just because of the location that Twin Peaks is filmed in and a lot of the sort of buildings and stuff that they used. It fits well with what they were trying to do there sort of thing. Totally. Yeah. It was just really kind of well done you know there's a lot of themed stuff there and yeah i think disney's new idea is to build these sections of the park that it's always been the idea like to immerse you into yeah like a world

zone right and um it's done really well in the modern ones the the Avatar and the Star Wars ones. Yeah. Certainly, like, done really, really works to, like, make you feel like you're in a place. There's definitely a sense of wonder. It's very, very cool. So, yeah, I had a really good time there. And then we drove to St. Pete. And St. Pete is, I think it's, like, the fifth biggest city in Florida. So, it's not like some of the people know.

Behind Jacksonvilleville i've never heard of it before jimmy miami and orlando those are the only three places i know oh and uh was it um with the place where key lime pie is from is it um tampa oh yeah i always forget about tampa yeah and so so it's it's kind of like, inverted commas, small, but it looks like all American cities, right? It's a grid with big roads and everything, you know, all the regular shit. They all look the same. I mean, St. Pete, I guess- Why does Boba live there as opposed to like a bigger city?

Like, why does she grow up there or something? She was born there, so she just stays. Yeah, it just happens like that. You know, you roll the dice on where you're born, don't you, I guess. Right. And so, yeah, she just ended up staying there. I think she went to uni there as well because it was quite cheap. Oh, wait, St. Petersburg is on the coast.

Yes, it's on the west side. Oh, I thought she was an inland floridian which is like the scary floridians but she's coastal that's not as bad okay yeah i don't know really why she wants to come and stay with us because she's a big anglophile right she's a big um she loves england wants to be in harry potter no i don't know jimmy she's looks beautiful it's like beautiful coastal. It's got like all the marinas and water and good weather. And maybe it's just fucking boring.

I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't want to live in Florida. I don't know. I don't know. She says it's like a swamp. So it's very hot and humid a lot of the year. And it's kind of gross. You've got gators.

You've got gators coming up out of the water. You've got gators down there. I've got gators down there in St. Pete. I never seen a gator breaking when i saw st pete's held me up snook me up took my it was playing gangster rap driving an uber so i was in there for two hours yeah all the lyrics in music where i'm gonna pull you in the water and roll you over till you're dead i'm gonna eat you. I'm going to eat that bass. It was unbelievable.

There's signs everywhere saying, you know, do not feed the gators. Don't swim in any water, basically. Fucking hell. We got sharks. We got gators. We got crabs. Whatever. We saw some.

We went to like a bit of- Water or crabs or gators. Well, there's like, you know how the whole of America has been paved over, right? Yeah. It's like basically, you know, like 1% of this area had not been paved over and it was like residual swampland that remains. But even then there's like signs around it saying this is not how the swamp land was originally we're regenerating it showed me like it went to this sort of big big old i say big it's

like you know three city blocks worth of nature park kind of thing it's got like a little lake there and it's got like you know a little walk and stuff and there was some baby gators that we saw swimming around in nature. I went to a gator park on the other side of St. Augustine where my dad lived for a while. St. Augs, you mean? St. Augs. That's what people call it. Yeah. They don't call it St. Augustine, they call it St. Aug. Over and they had like an albino alligator that was like the star of the show. They had, you could

buy food and throw it to the gators, and they all sort of, because there's not like a couple of them. You fucking chuck them in there like a pit of snakes, you know what I mean? I think because they're reptiles, they can just bump along. They don't need a huge amount of space. They chill most of the time anyway. And then they had a big statue of the biggest alligator they'd ever had.

And this thing was like the length of a car. It was enormous. But at the same time, it's like they're kind of interesting. But it was like after two hours, first of all, they're quite smelly. And second of all, they didn't really do much. Like once you've seen them go and eat something and the guy shows you that a toddler could hold an alligator's mouth shut, like you barely have to hold it shut. They have no opening muscles. It's all closing muscles. So they can open their mouths, but they're very weak, which is why you can literally put a rubber band around them, their

sort of snoot, and they can't open their mouths. That's how they sort of keep them- You can do that with lobster claws as well. Really? So they can't open them very well. That's why they put of keep them. You can do that with lobster claws as well. Really? So they can't open them very well. That's why they put rubber bands on them. You can put rubber bands around them and then they can't open their pincers, their claws. Did you ever see those at the supermarket?

You know, like they used to have lobsters in the tanks. Yeah. They used to just have rubber bands on their claws. I watched a YouTube video of a guy who bought one and rescued it and like nursed it back to health which is very wholesome mr pinchy oh god that maybe i just watched the simpsons yeah maybe it was the simpsons and then he has a bath with mr pinchy and accidentally cooks him that that uh that's the symptoms have done it as as you would expect so no there were they're walking through this nature park was like You know how you walk through a nature park In England and it's quite quiet

It's quite serene in the forest There's not much going on There's nothing to attack you In Florida, it's like the noisiest experience Every bush you walk past Rustles, right? I'm not even joking, suspiciously rustles They've got the cicadas going as well, right?

There's noise constantly. There's lizards running out of the path in front of you. There's flies like running away from the lizards and running away. There's like little gribbles grobbling around and scribbling around constantly. And there's squirrels and there's birds and there's everything. It's all fighting each other. Life is leaping out of the ground. But I mean, it's a swamp land. It's got leaping out of the ground but i mean it's

so it's a swamp land it's got everything it's got hot weather it's got water it's got lots of food sources in the smaller life forms you know gators it's kind of it's kind of very i don't know just it's just it's just it's got a lot of a lot of life and none of it's particularly colorful or interesting do you mean but remember that jackass segment where they were dangling over a crocodile pit with chicken hanging off their undies you remember that jackass segment where they were dangling over a crocodile pit with chicken hanging off their undies you remember that right and the crocodile would like reach up and eat the the dangling chicken off of their it's not wasn't undies it looked like jock straps with like uh with big chickens dangling off and then it does seem a little bit like flurry at florida like i

got a general impression because we went to the Florida Aquarium in Tampa and it was really cool, but I got the general impression that people were a little bit more reckless when it came to wildlife in Florida. Just a little bit more- They see it as their play thing rather than sort of admiring the natural splendor of it all. I think they've just gotten used to the idea of gators being in your back garden, right? And critters and varmints being up in your face, right? Because we were at the beach one day and Ped held up a- well, he didn't hold up a cookie, he was eating a cookie and a seagull just, you know, like it happens in Bristol sometimes,

a seagull grab your sausage roll, but that seagull then you know like like it happens in bristol sometimes seagull grab your sausage roll but that that seagull then called like 50 more and then an army like then sort of slightly aggressively went for any anything that that it was like an open you know an open box of food but but but like But the aquarium is quite open, right? There is obviously an alligator tank, but it's more closed. But a lot of it is like, there's a lot of ducks and a lot of birds

just kind of loose in there. And there's this pelican with this huge, huge, you know, it's a huge pelican and it's like six inches away, you know, not in a not in a cage not in a tank just can flap around and there's this there's just huge birds and all sorts of stuff in there and i've also got three exhibits where you can touch animals right which is a little

touch underwater animals which is not very common at least in the uk big there's a big um pool of manta rays or i don't know i mean i know that there are places but as i understand it the well i hear you were spent i was just sticking my hand to touch all that stuff like uh i'm fine just looking at it you know i don't feel like an overwhelming urge to put my hands on it you know i think it's nice for kids because they're first of, kids are very touch-oriented. It is for kids. And second of all, I think it does teach them that these are living things, and

not just like, decorations. Yeah, sure, but if you're letting your kids touch stuff, don't they then grow up into adults who just want to touch weird stuff as well? I think so, but that's I think part of the Florida upbringing. I was never allowed to touch the sea life when we went places or pet like the animals or whatever. I mean, that's probably good, honestly. Like, I think there are some animals you can pet, but I think you kind of-

It definitely feels odd. Yeah. But I think they've thought about it very carefully. So, the first one is this huge tank of rays and they're basically like little puppies. Yeah, yeah. They want to come and be touched or else they wouldn't be coming as close to the people as as i don't know if they want to be touched but people are very gentle usually you know and they're quite quick and anyway that was it was it's kind of well done the other two tanks are

one is of um moon jellyfish right which are basically these just they're just like the shittiest jellyfish yeah they really are they're basically plants um they don't sting they don't have a brain they don't have any kind of nervous system at all in fact i don't think they're just they're they're about as close to a plant as you could imagine that there it's interesting to to touch them because when you touch them it doesn't feel like you're touching anything at all really yeah they're bizarre and then there's i think if you had to come back as a life form, jellyfish is way down fucking the slide.

Oh my God. There's nothing going on there. I don't even know what their perception is. Do they just float around and food touches their tentacles and that's it? I mean, do they propel themselves around somehow? Yeah, they do that. Or do they just float around on the current? They do that weird bob move, don't they?

Where they just like- Some of them do. Some of them do. I don't know what the point of them is, yeah. I mean, does the man of war, what is it, the Portuguese man of war, just floats on the top of the ocean, its tentacles dangle down? Yeah. Does it steer, or is it just like, wherever I go, I go?

Philosophically, fair enough. But I think as an experience... Dolphins look like they have fun. They look like they have fun, I think, for sure. And sea lions do too. They're always like horsing around, aren't they? Chasing boats.

I think a killer whale would be pretty cool to be. Yeah. They communicate quite a lot. They do, yeah. You ever seen them triangulate a kill before? Yeah, yeah.

It's insane. Watch and watch this, kids. He's gonna triangulate this kill. Yeah, yeah. They got all these fucking tricks. Like they can create a big wave to push things off of an iceberg and shit. Oh my God, I've seen it all.

I love it. God damn. I mean, when it comes to jellyfish, yeah, I think they're mostly shit. I just want to pet one, you know? I just want to get my hands on one. I just want to touch them. Yeah. There is an interesting one though.

There's like an upside down jellyfish. It just looks like a regular one, except they only like sit on the bottom upside down and they barely swim they look like little sea anemones yeah but there's also the most interesting jellyfish is the portuguese man of war i suggest you look it up but it's the one which is made of like five different organisms that are unique so it's not? So, it's not one thing? Yeah. Yeah. There's, like, the sail part, there's, like, the brain part or whatever, there's, like,

the tentacles part, and they're all different organisms that they grow, like, it's really It's got, like, a porpoise's legs, a whale's cock, it's got a monkey's eyes, and, you know, it's, like like a big mix of everything. All the greats. Yeah. It's like a greatest hits compilation. It's actually super weird. So it's actually not a jellyfish. Well, no, it's a monstrosity. It's a siphonophore.

Yeah, a siphonophore. Yeah, it's a colonial organism made up of many smaller units called zooids. Wow. Can I just say on the topic of jellyfish, because I don't know about you, Lewis, but you sent me some pictures because you were perusing some Chihuly while you were there, and all of his stuff reminds me of jellyfish. You know, like all the big elaborate glass things?

Yeah. They just look like big jellyfish you know like all the all the big elaborate glass things yeah they just look like big jellyfish well so so i think he had the studio so we when we're in seattle we saw this guy dale chihuly who is quite famous in the world of glass is it jim chihuly or we always say his name wrong. Chuck. Chuck Chihuly. And he's this kind of odd guy, he's got one eye and he's kind of- It is Dale. It is Dale, wow, holy shit. God, he's 81. He's 81 now, yeah. So, he must have a studio in Florida because I was going to ask you this.

He creates these really big pieces and I don't know how you would transport them across the country without bits of them breaking off and stuff like that. You've got to pack them in jellyfish. Right. Yeah, I guess. But like, they must weigh a ton but also, like, how the hell would you move them? You know what I mean? God. No, exactly. You can't exactly just

put them in an Amazon. Like, we're not talking about just like a little, you know, table ornament or something. These things are like, the ones we saw in Seattle, some of them were like the size of a building. Like, it's insane. Yeah. It's all mangled up glass.

They look nice. They look incredible. There's one at Kew Gardens, I believe. Oh, there you go. How the fuck did that get over there? He must have done it on site, right? Like, he must have just done a- I mean, I think they can ship these things.

I mean, you know, you just can't pack it very carefully and move it and put careful all over it and pay some special company to move shit. I bet there's a company out there whose entire thing is moving artworks. Yeah, but if it's a big glass thing, like even on a container ship or something, that thing is getting smashed up. There's no way. Well, I think I noticed this little secret to it though there is a central buyer or hub and everything is connected to that yeah i think what you can do is you can i think you can unscrew all of the individual leaves and plants and then reassemble that see so do you reckon when when dale you doesn've ruined the magic for me. I have, sorry. He puts like instructions with it, how to reassemble the glass.

I would imagine he went out there and did it himself. Oh, just to make sure. Or had one of his goons do it. Yeah, maybe. One of his assistants. I think it's interesting because St. Pete is a sort of centre for glass art, right? Because there's a couple of other big artists out there who do glass stuff. And I noticed it was a recurring theme when I was out there. There's a couple of glass museums. And I actually went to this other one. I think it was Duncan McClellan's sort of art gallery.

So, I went in there and this is one of the days when I was on my own. And well, I think Pat had gone to sleep early or something i was just on my own and i went in there and there was no one in there this it's incredible museum that he has set up in this old warehouse and it's got all these really really cool pieces of art mostly from glass mostly all glass obviously from from other local people or people who are selling it locally or people who've come there and done like a residency like you have you seen the the blown that that netflix show what's it called blown apart or whatever yeah i think a little bit and and then it was like this is the same every like it's just it's like it's like the mrs f watches the the sewing bee and the pottery

show and all the rest of them oh yeah they're all the same like unless you're really into pottery or sewing it's essentially the same thing every single episode which is comforting and nice and there's slight variations and you could say that about cooking but the difference with the cooking shows is i can copy that quite easily by getting the ingredients and following a recipe most cooking is something that you can replicate yourself but i ain't gonna fucking suddenly get a potter's wheel and a bunch of clay and a kiln and all that shit and i'm also not gonna get all the stuff you need for sewing to do sewing so i think for the cooking shows even though they are quite samey you're getting something from it where you're learning a technique or you're going to copy it or you're going to try a recipe so i kind of understand that a bit more than the sewing shows and this is exactly what i thought like when it comes to doing like some art stuff like abstract

art or like printing stuff i'm fairly familiar with how all that works and when i go to a modern art museum i'm like oh i could see how this was done right when it comes to glass art i have no fucking idea i've watched a few guys do glass blowing and i've seen the show but but it's still completely mind-blowing to me how some of these things get made anyway the glass art is this big thing there's lots of people doing it there's lots of people who are incredibly good even a couple people from bristol because we have a blue glass thing here in bristol and there are couple of Bristol artists in this place. Bristol blowers. So yeah, that's kind of, I should know more about it. A couple of big blowers.

I don't. Anyway, walking around this place and this old lady starts talking to me and you know, because everyone does in Florida. Everyone talks to you and as soon as you reply, they know you're not from Florida and they say, oh, where are you from? And you know, then you have to tell people where you're from and then you get drawn into a conversation. So, I turn to this nice old lady and she's sort of giving me a tour around and then someone that sort of overhears that i'm from bristol and she says oh we got some

stuff from this bristol guy so she takes me around to show me more stuff there's different ladies show me more stuff and so then i'm i'm back out on the shop floor i notice there's this like kind of it's beautifully coiffured lovely art gallery And there's one sort of very messy desk, right? Just on the side with like a bucket as a bin. Do you know what I mean? Like really like the shittiest desk. And behind it, there's this sort of guy twiddling his thumbs. And so he was sort of talking to me a little bit as well.

And from behind the desk. So I sort of came over and I was like, oh, so have you done any of the art here? And he's like, yeah, I've got a couple of pieces. And it turns out he's actually the guy duncan duncan mcclellan imagine if you went into the jim chihuly thing and jim chihuly was there whatever not even sorry dale dale so i was kind of like surprised because you'd never necessarily see and he was like oh yeah you've been talking to my my mother-in-law and my wife there and i was like oh my god this is like a fat it's like like a family run thing and they were setting up and they had this

like beautiful garden out the back where he like planted all the plants and he had these five, by the way everything there is like five grand or ten grand, one of the sculptures was like fifty grand yeah you gotta go big though you gotta go big

I know they really do go big anyway Anyway, outside, beautiful garden, decorated with all these five grand sculptures just sitting out in the open, you know, huge place. And so, obviously- Did you buy a couple? I just thought, I couldn't really- I didn't want to risk bringing any back sips. It's on the plane. Ah, it's perfectly safe. You know, those big fucking glass things that Dale does they ship them all over the damn place

they're modular you can screw them together and stuff so they all come off the main shaft they do so I just thought it was like super wholesome super weird um at this you know I think everyone generally I think it's America right so some people

most people are living in regular situations. But I think there is a wealthy aspect of St. Pete. I went to this Saturday morning market, right? And you walk around and every stall, I shit you not, you could roll a dice. And you could roll two dice, right? The first dice says gluten-free, vegan, organic, vegan organic homemade spiritual you know yeah all that wank all the wanky stuff and then the other dice says kombucha broccoli pancakes radishes muffins cheese right toothpaste whatever you roll those two dice and that is a stall someone there is selling some fucking artisanal

you know botanical locally sourced homemade homegrown mushrooms right and that that's that's what they're that's their stall and they're sold out this is very much the opposite of the um image of florida that i'm sold right well well that's because, like I said, this is coastal Florida. It's something different. I think it's more upmarket. It's more like, I think I saw there was a board there, and it was like someone had put this board up, and it said, what is the answer written on the top? Okay, in like felt-tip pen.

And other people had come around and written their answers on this board. So, what do you think the answers were on the board? Dial 515-384-7878 for a great blow job. For a good time. No, that was not on there. It was Jesus was on there, obviously. Jesus! Jesus is the reason for the season.

Well, what is the answer jesus um but someone also wrote like sunshine someone at the beach someone wrote eating clean um someone wrote family someone wrote 42 as the old hitchhiker's guide you know what is the meaning of life in fact so i wondered what you guys would have would have thought i don't i don't uh have any answers i don't like to write so there are your answers hey i got a story for you guys talking about mystical stuff i saw this i saw this this morning and this really cracked me up here's the headline are you ready yeah yeah swimmers brave dangerous tides to collect rock from Uri Geller's island. Oh, no.

A group of adventurers have swum to an uninhabited Scottish island to collect a rock for celebrity magician. That's how they describe him. Uri Geller. So this is like an island in the middle of the third and fourth. Is he a celebrity magician? I don't believe he is. He's not active anymore. I would say con man would be how I would put it.

No, but is he even, does he even do shows or anything anymore? I don't know. I mean, this is a name from like 30 years ago. Yeah. He's a tabloid guy now, I think. He's not even though. I don't think he's- No, he does things- I think what he does is when they- he's very good at PR, somehow.

Where he's able to- people, I think, for a laugh, will tack him onto the end of a news story like, we asked Uri Geller, or he will put out a statement. somehow where he's able to people I think for a laugh will tack him onto the end of a news story like we asked Yuri Geller or he will put out a statement I did this it wasn't his big claim to fame he was Michael Jackson's favorite magician or something like that yeah he was friends with Michael Jackson he's like meant to be this quite spiritual guy he's got a museum apparently so see he has a the new Yuri G Museum. This opened a little while ago. He's 75. He's opened a museum.

This is in Israel. It has the world's largest steel spoon. The museum displays an incredible collection of original items owned by Yuri. Yeah. So, this is like a museum about Yuri Geller. It's got a 4.5 rating on TripAdvisor. So, he met a lot of famous people and he would bend a spoon in front of them, and that's how he got started, really.

Stopping clocks with his mind, bending spoons, all these little tricks that he would do. Like he's just- he's always been that guy who, you know, cheats basically and lies. So apparently, he suffered a crushing humiliation on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. He had prepared a table with silverware on which Geller proved unable to demonstrate his mental powers convincingly, something he blamed on the hostile atmosphere. So he sort of went on

TV to show that he could bend spoons and none of them could, because of course it's a trick, right? Of course it's a trick. So I don't mind if it is a clever trick. And I remember when I was a kid, I was very impressed by it and thinking, wow, he can bend spoons. Of course he can't. Any more than a magician can just guess your card from a deck of 52. It's a trick. It's a trick. If you want to dress it up as mental gymnastics or say, oh, it's all my psychic powers, don't also take that into your day-to-day life. And that's what he's done. He claims that this

island he bought is a very mystical place. He called it the most mystical place in the world. That's the kind of shit that drives me up the wall, is when he has to say, this is a magical island. We still haven't figured out how mystical it is. Please collect rocks from it so I can display them in my museum in Israel. And these people volunteered to do it.

They swam out. Apparently it was a very dangerous swim. and getting onto this island is near impossible. It's just a rock in the sea, the Firth of Forth of Scotland. It's really not some magical place. It's just a basalt rock or whatever. So I think that's why people have a problem with Yuri Geller, is it's not enough for him to just be a magician or whatever he is. He also has to make out, this is, no, no, no, this is real.

This is, I'm actually psychic. I think some other illusionists like Derren Brown admit and are very open that they're gonna trick you and then you're still impressed when you're tricked, right? Absolutely. Whereas he has been committed to this bullshit forever and if you're risking people's lives,'s incredibly incredibly problematic right well you know i mean that that but he's always been on tc do you know he's always been available and kind of a laughing laughing stock right exactly it's like you know people have like

been like oh can you can we get this cunt on tv for just just to talk about it in a kind of and he's always been there do you mean like despite being he's almost like debunk material you know everyone has debunked him over the years debunked him didn't he i can't remember i'm almost certainly you know but he's always put himself out there i think he's just his name as well uri geller he's always sat it's rolled off the tongue tongue as kind of a weird sounding name. He was on Celebrity Big Brother one year, wasn't he? Oh, really? Like years ago, I think it was like in the early 2000s or something.

But even then, he was kind of like a name from yesteryear, right? Like it was... Yeah. I mean, he's 76 apparently. Yeah. So, yeah. So, we'd have to put up with him much longer. Is that what we're saying? Indeed. Good. Before we

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today! We gave 10 Aura Frames to 10 different dads who won't believe what happens next. Speaking of adventures, on the plane I listened to one of the episodes of Criminal Podcast, which honestly is one of the only crime podcasts I can stand. The rest of them are like, James Mason, a 36-year-old man from Indiana, killed his wife, Sandra Sheringham, 36.

Why did she do it? Let's find out. And it's this whole wank attitude, right? A lot of these true crime podcasts are garbage uh criminal is one of the only ones which i listen to anyway they did a podcast about the wager which is this um story i had heard of before where there's um it's like a guy's just released a book which i saw in the airport as well actually it's just like it's so you know it's best-selling book-fiction, about sort of the history of what happened with this British ship, the Wager, back in the late 1700s, when we went to war with Spain over something.

Yeah. I think it was, in fact, it's called the War of Jenkins' Ear. Oh, yeah. There was this guy who was held up by- That didn't feature in our top 10 all-time greatest wars, did it? That particular... I don't know. I think, no, when we did the

podcast about the greatest wars. Yeah, greatest wars in history. So, hold on a sec. My computer must be listening to me more than usual because I typed war of and it auto-completed to war of Jenkins' ear. That is fucking... Like, I had not typed the J yet

I just typed war of and it immediately completed it's come back with war of the worlds the war of the worlds war of the worlds the war of the roses the war of 1812 what's going on with my PC? I've never googled war of jenkins

this don't worry it's probably because it's a lot of people are listening to this podcast there's a war of the world's immersive experience in london did you know uh no no there anyway there you go it's just called it's just called uh wembley isn't it when anyone lives in wembley i think back in these imperial times eng and Spain were looking to go to war over any old shit and so someone had their ear cut off and that was the excuse and so they sent this squadron of ships

to basically steal a Spanish galleon that went back and forth to the Philippines with a lot of silver on it so they've sent five man of wars out there, which were kind of a mess, right? The whole thing was a mess because we didn't have enough sailors, so they had to press gang all these. It's a great story, right?

The first thing they had to do was they had to press gang in all of anyone who looked like a sailor. So they would literally go around Britain. If anyone had tar on their fingers, because that's what all sailors had they would shut they would put them in a bag and hoist them and they'd wake up on board a ship that was already a set sail you know it was a disaster they would just abduct people from across the country as well as they actually got like um 500 retired sailors out of the um out of the hospital in chelsea old pensioners hospital. Some of them were so ill, they had to stretch them on board a ship, you know, just to make up the numbers

for this expedition. And they'd all died within like, you know, six months, all these guys. It was an absolute disaster. And it's about the- so they sailed around the south of South America, which is Cape Horn. It's this incredibly dangerous bit of ocean, right, where the waters are very, very fast. And, you know, it's almost like a pinch point where waves are like 90 foot high, winds are like hurricane force constantly. It's horrible. And they went around there at the worst time of year. It's horrible. They went around there at the worst time of year and it follows the story of this one ship that got shipwrecked in an absolute middle of fucking nowhere in South America. The story of how they were able to survive and get back.

They each got back. They broke into two groups quite quickly and um kind of tried to work together and tried to like it was very noble there was a lot of like them even in 1740 they they tried to stick to like the the naval code of um authority and the captain taking charge but but but they were also like they were doing like court marshals and kind of i don'tials and trying to work together and be honourable as well. There's a lot of things and decisions that were made based on... They didn't completely descend into anarchy. Some people did. Some people just went mad and drunk themselves to death. It's a crazy story.

and drunk themselves to death. And, you know, it's, it's a crazy story. Um, and, and, um,

I really recommend the book. Actually, I did pick it up at the airport and read it on the flight back. Nice. Um, honestly, like I love this kind of stuff. I love,

it gave me like Oprah din vibes, you know, the shipwreck and the survivors and that's cool. Captain busting out of his cabin with a pistol kind of thing. It's got everything. It's got a little bit of everything. No romance.

God, thank God for that. I hate romance. No romance. Talking about lack of romance, I finished Succession, ended on Monday. Yes. Watching the series. What a show. I watched the end of that too.

Oh man. What a great show. Yeah, great show. I watched the end of it, yeah. I love that. One of those things I think people will look back on in years to come and say, yeah, it's good, but it's not as good as Succession. That's a problem.

Well, I think the nice thing with Succession as well is that it knew when to end. Yeah, it didn't fucking drag out. It didn't feel like it had to drag on and on and on. Like, imagine it came back for another season and it was like a whole season of the latter half of the final season. I don't think I would have enjoyed that. No, I wanted it to end. Yeah, I was glad for it to end and I was really satisfied with how it ended as well. Succession ended and also Flax, your favorite show, Ted Lasso ended this week as well.

So glad it ended. So glad it ended so glad it ended my god this i was i was reading an article about it the other day um i i just found this article and it said ted lasso has ended thank god yes i know that's exactly what i thought yeah it was on the guardian but yeah as the guardian yeah you can't help but agree as much as i i like the show it's not a show that i would want to watch for any longer than... No, I don't want it anymore. It's been like... The first season was really cute.

We needed the first series. Cute and comfy. And it came out at the right time. Yes, it was the right time. Everybody was sad and depressed. And it was locked down and we were all very sad. And it was great. It was what we needed.

It kind of started to lose its way a bit in the second season. Second season, it lost its way very convincingly way the final season was a bit up and down and a little bit rushed as well like it not not that it mattered much you know i'm not i'm not talking like right you know i'm i'm i'm game of thrones mad at it because it it was it was rushed or whatever but there was a load of stuff that felt like it was built up over the course of the series. Particularly in season two. And then just a lot of stuff kind of happened off camera in season three to sort of round it out. But it was so like...

It's not a complicated show either, right? Like you can... Basically, you can predict what's gonna happen 10 episodes away you can you can see how very obviously they're gearing up towards something or whatever i'm pretty sure that while we were watching it we were like because you know the final episode was kind of as you'd expect as well every possible character and storyline wrapped up you know in a pleasing way in a fairly pleasing way like a like a perfect in perfectly imperfect way you know what i mean like it's not everything was like a hundred percent

ideal but everybody seemed pretty happy with their lot sort of thing and it was and it was all i want to say about it is it felt like the like like a band that had come out of nowhere and had an amazing first album. Yes. That you really enjoy. Yeah. And has a lot of, you know, it was at the right time. Yes. And that was it. Yeah. And then this the next two albums because they've done three series.

Yeah. Yeah. Had flashes that reminded you of the first. Yeah. It never hit the same. And in the end, you began to resent those out. That's how it felt to me. Like they had spent all this time putting together their first album, the first series of Ted Lasso. And it had started off as adverts for Premier League football on, I think, ESPN. So it was just originally some of the best jokes in the show would just lift the

press conference. Lifted right out of those. Straight out of those. And that was like several years ago yes so they'd obviously been working on it and honing it and getting it just right yeah and got it made and then they were like we need another couple of series i was like oh shit we better write that and it just lost all of the heart and it was nominated for 40 primetime emmys and it won 11 yeah it was i mean it was at that point there really weren't that many other shows that people were losing their minds no we've just been let down by Game of Thrones. Yes.

You know, we were grieving television at that point. We needed something. But I watch it now and there's no... All of the emotional payoffs feel so cheap. It feels like, oh, come on, man. Stop manipulating me like that. A big takeaway for me as well is that I think the show would have just fallen flat on its ass had it not been for uh rebecca the uh the owner of richmond she's she's phenomenal she's so fucking good it's insane she was great such a great actress like it's

it's insane like in some scenes you just think this is kind of throwaway tv but she is really good you know like i'm excited to see what she does next because i think of everyone on that show she's the one that actually i think she was actually in game of thrones um she was she was the shame she was the shame lady yeah and game of thrones which is but you wouldn't recognize her no and the other the other one for me was uh roy kent i i don't think the show would have been good without him, honestly. He was such a good character and he was played so well. Like, it was just- There were so many times in the show where you just- He needed to be there. He was a good character, for sure. But I did feel it got a bit much after a while,

because he's basically- He's Roy Kent all the time. It worked in series one, I think. Sure, yeah. But when you start to show that, oh, Roy's a big softy at heart, it kind of loses some of its edge, I think. But a piece of casting I never understood. Is it Keeley? Is that her name? Yeah, Keeley Jones, yeah.

I don't understand. I don't get it. She's awful. And I don't understand why she's like one of the main characters in the show. I can't stand her. Yeah. I don't, I do not get it at all. I can, I can sort of, I can handle her in small doses, but when you have an episode

where she's, you know, predominantly the storyline or whatever, it's, it's a little bit grating. Like I, it's not that I can't stand her. I don't, I don't mind her as such, but I can, I can, I can have like too much of her as well, sort of thing. I would be sick if i was hanging around with those people irl they're so fucking nice to each other after why just be like calm i know it's like it's ridiculous isn't it like uh like even like the entire team you know like they just rally around every little thing you know like they'll cheer each other on like somebody farts and they're all like and i guess like maybe to some extent that does happen in a in like a team environment or whatever but like i don't know it is it is really selling you this this hyper idealized

vision of of of life and stuff isn't it like it doesn't really i love i love how like their little corner of london is portrayed as well like this is a big that's my corner it's like this big fucking dirty city and like you know they just have their own little little bubble you know where they all know i mean maybe to some extent it's like that dude that is that is my area like i'm not kidding but but most of the show was filmed around richmond and twickenham yeah it's just so that was that was the hypest part about series one, was seeing my neighbourhood on TV. That was exciting. And it doesn't look like the rest of London. It really doesn't. No.

Yeah. That was the best part of the show for me. I even did a thing on Instagram where I went and took pictures of areas where they filmed Ted Lasso. The Ted Lasso places. Really? That's fun. For all that, I i think overall i liked it i mean you know there's always going to be even shows i really like there's always like some little little comments or whatever it's it's it's whatever i would take the sopranos though that

didn't seem like it dragged itself out i felt like that was good yeah sopranos was really good all the way through another one i really liked was six feet under all the way through it was it's an older hbo show but it's really really good it's got um i can't remember his name the guy who plays dexter is in it yeah it's like one of his michael c hall or whatever i think it's maybe one of his first kind of big roles but he plays he's he's he's really good in it and the rest of the cast is really good and actually just the whole show is is just really well's he's really good in it and the rest of the cast is really good and actually just the whole show is is just really well done it's really interesting worth a watch but um and the wire as well i don't feel like that dragged on too long the final season of the wire was was probably for me the weakest but it was still fine you know like i agree i didn't agree i didn't mind

it it was very these these shows are very influential in their time for sure about how people thought about stuff yeah it's i i'm glad to be back but i do already feel like maybe i saw the nicer areas of of the towns that i went to and you know you do see like the coiffured version on telly and on you're on holiday yeah of places right you don't see the when you go to vegas you don't see your you know the dirty rat did you get a chance to pop into mar-a-lago or or or anything or no you were just like too busy um uh well i mean florida's just a dramatic place right you know it's you didn't go to any rallies right while you were there or anything i know it's a way it's a dramatic because it's always a battleground state, right? And then it's got Ron in it at the moment and Trump's, you know, Marlo.

I mean, it's kind of, it punches above its weight, I think, in how much news it gets, you know, from good and bad, but mostly bad. you know from good and bad but mostly bad you know i feel like that there's a you know the frond of santa's war with disney and disney being this mega corp did you could you feel the vibes while you were there or or no it was just like business as usual well i don't know how they get anything done because it's so hot right i i mean like i I don't know who built all of this in the heat. I feel sorry for them, you know? It's so like- You know what? There's quite a few forts in Florida, on the east coast, I think probably more than the west. And there's one we went to visit that was like a British fort. Where the hell is Fort Lauderdale why does that always

for fort lauderdale right it no that's a city in florida yeah yeah for this is literally a teeny teeny tiny little fort but it's watching the sort of waterway approach that you would take to go up this river towards i think towards saint augustine or somewhere like that so it's like a little guard fort that had like a cannon because you wouldn't be able to sail a big ship up there but equally if you sailed a little sloop or some little ship up there you could presumably make it or a landing craft or whatever so they their little fort with a couple of cannons in there to sort of dissuade people from doing that it's in the middle of nowhere it's guarding a swamp because it's basically guarding a river and i imagined how fucking shit a posting that

must have been given that they would have had to wear those old wool uniforms all the time with their fucking hats and they're just living in the swamp there's no ac there's no bug repellent you're just getting bitten to death by mosquitoes and there's nothing to do you're stuck what did they use for like suntan cream i don't know i mean they just burned they had to have long sleeves and hats i mean these were british soldiers so they're not gonna tan well a lot of them are just gonna turn pink what was the turnover rate for the true weird was i'm gonna post you to the river for no please sir please i'll do better you know it must have been a miserable bloody post i think it i think it was like pretty miserable back in the day i mean like the the things that hit so going back to the wager like before they even crossed the atlantic like

half of them had died of scurvy and fucking typhoid right yeah that was just part of what you expected because scurvy basically set in after a month on ships because they they you know they were eating salted not on captain cook ships and biscuits well yeah i don't know how they got away with it but as soon as you go to land a little bit of yeah that's what he used i think it's called an anti-scorbutic is anything that prevents scurvy and he realized they didn't know the science of it but he they other sailors had done this and he'd studied a lot of other sort of sailing and the way other crews were. And he was one of the first British officers to insist on bringing barrels of sauerkraut.

And the men hated having to eat it. But he was like, no, you're eating it. And he didn't lose a single sailor to scurvy his entire career. Wow. That's true. Well, I think he was slightly after the wager. So, he was like 18th century. Yes, yeah, he was. And anyway, you know, but at the time they had this sort of, you

know, Mr. Magoo's marvelous medicine, which was basically arsenic and antimony and mercury and stuff like this. I mean, it was just- Yeah, they didn't know what they were doing. It was called like, it was like a purge medicine, right? It would make you vomit and have diarrhea and, you know, like it would basically make you just like purge everything, which was obviously not going to help if you were starving to death. No.

Do you reckon often, especially with the whole use of mercury as a medicine, do you think they just thought, wow, look at this stuff? This has got to be good for you. I can't wait to get this yeah eat eat that it's gonna be amazing for you i mean i guess they didn't have any other way of knowing yeah it looks like magic i think a lot of people just ate a lot of shit and if they didn't die in a yearly or have their tongue swell up you know they just were like okay you know i guess i guess that's good for me. I mean, here's your success proof, right? I make you take mercury. You recover from whatever it is that you had through natural means,

not because of the mercury. And I say, fucking mercury worked, didn't it? That's literally medicine in the olden days. They would give you whatever, and if you somehow persisted through the awful treatment and lived, they were like, wow wow a mercury worked to treat i'm going to make a note in my medical journal if a patient has terrible fevers give them mercury this is exactly how like conspiracy theories get going as well right like people make these

connections because they want to see connections and they are the the brain loves to make these, link these events together or have an explanation. I read a little book about conspiracy theories when I was an older as well. It's fascinating how they get started. Like the Illuminati, right? Which everyone's heard of now. They got started because they were a group of people who were around the Enlightenment. They were enlightened people.

They believed in free speech, freedom of religion, gender equality. Is this the Bavarian Illuminati? Yeah. An Enlightenment-era secret society. They believed in- Founded on the 1st of May 1776. How about that? They were originally very much on the 1st of May 1776. How about that? They were originally, you know, very much on the...

They were very much supposed to be like kind of good guys, right? They wanted to like fight against the current sort of abuses of state power that were going on at the time. Apparently they wanted to oppose superstition as well and obscurantism, whatever that is. And to make things more publicly visible.

But they were a secret society, which is kind of funny. Yeah. Well, this one guy made a lot of bad decisions about how... Anyway, it was a fascinating bit of history. But what happened was, obviously, they weren't secret, of course, because nothing remains a secret very long. Right. And as soon as the state found out that they were being plotted against by this group,

they basically decided that they were going to blame them for everything that was going wrong. Because no one could say that they weren't. So the Illuminati obviously got shut down, but it was such a good scapegoat, right? That you could just say, oh, that's the Illuminati trying to, you know. And the Illuminati, like when you start believing in conspiracy theories, right, you are more likely to engage in the behavior that you think they were doing, right? So, for example, if you think that the Democrats are trying to steal steal the election you're more likely to try and steal the election there was uh a conspiracy to to rig the last election but it wasn't the democrats who were doing it it was the republicans who thought the democrats were doing it doing it themselves to fight against it right so there's this there's

a strange thing that sort of happens where you get sucked into these ideas, partly because one of the big things in the book actually it talks about. I could talk to you about this next week more if you're interested. But one of the big things the book goes into is how a massive world affecting event like 9-11 or kennedy assassination or princess diana dying one of these huge events spawns conspiracy theories because the solution to it doesn't match the size of the impact of the of the event itself right like 9-11 you know couldn't just be um a few terrorists flying aircraft it also had to be the government putting bombs in there or doing some big conspiracy. Kennedy couldn't have just been one crazy guy. It had to be a whole conspiracy. It had

to be all of this stuff. There's always been a more elaborate thing to match. We see history in this way of looking almost backwards at it like we know these huge landmark events happened so why didn't the people at the time know that they were landmark events well because people can't predict the future right and also these people these these these moments were sure they were big then but over history has decided what events were the biggest ones that we really have remembered. So yeah, it's really interesting to look into where these things got started and what drives them. We should do that next week.

Conspiracy theories. Can I share with you one thing quickly before we go? I installed a new graphics card recently and it took me hours. You know, like modern, like, like well because i had to get a new power supply and everything because like it had all the wrong plugs so i had to unplug the old power supply from everything and then plug put in the new power supply and plug it all into everything and it took me hours to do it and uh it was one of those you know when you've done a lot of stuff and you just think i'm gonna turn my computer on and it's gonna blow up or it's not gonna work you know i'm gonna go down

this rabbit hole of needing a whole bunch of replacement bits and pieces and stuff like that but i turn it on boom worked first time i couldn't believe it oh baby felt great yeah i uh i did i did some some minor home stuff. Two things. First of all, I finally bought a good toolbox, like a bag, a bag that you put all your tools in. It's got all pockets. Oh, nice. I'm looking forward to organizing that because that's some real dead shit.

That is some real dead shit, yeah. And second of all, my youngest, she had a bunk bed that wasn't really a bunk bed. I think they call it a cabin bed. Yeah. So it's like a bunk bed top and then underneath you can have like a little desk. Storage. Yeah, yeah. My kids have those too, yeah.

Right. So she didn't want the bottom bit anymore. She wanted a bed on the ground. She was sick of sleeping up top. Sure. Sick of going up and down the ladder. And I was like, and also it's hard for her to make her bed because it's up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I was like, yeah, yeah, fair enough. It's good when they're really small, but as they get bigger. Exactly, exactly. So how do you do this? What you have to do is unscrew the top bit from the bottom section, which is big and quite heavy, and then hold the bunk bed up where you slide all that other stuff out and then lower the bunk bed down.

This was harder than it looked because the whole thing was in the corner and we built it there. Like it was too heavy to drag around the room and there isn't really enough room to do it anyway. So I had to get Mrs. F and my eldest to hold the bed up at one end, and then I unscrewed the other end and got my youngest and me dragged the other bit out. So now I'm just holding up the bed alone, but I can't hold it up from a good angle. I'm underneath it.

Yeah, this sounds like a traditional family argument. No, no, it wasn't an argument. I just allowed the bed to slowly crush me to the ground. I imagine there were lots of shouting. There was no shouting. Hold it up! No, no, there was no shouting.

He was being so crouched. The only shouting was my youngest saying, Daddy, you're going to get crushed by the bed. And I was like, no, I'm okay. So I lay on my back like a beetle and gradually lowered the bed using my legs and crawled out from underneath it. It was not very elegant. That's an incredible move, actually. but it worked yeah well that's it you can sometimes you just got to do what what works right and you gotta do it you just gotta do it oh i also went to go see a punk rock show in leeds i was gone i was gone for less than 24 hours from my house but it was worth it but you left the island i left the island yeah by myself i couldn't believe it. Wow. Yeah, I went on a plane.

I landed. I got in a car. I went to the show. I had a good time. I had a little sleep. And then, boom, right back onto the plane, home. I was back. I think I was gone for 22 hours in total. I went to see NoFX in their final UK show.

I was traveling yesterday for longer than that. NoFX? The band with- The band with- No, yeah, with- What's her name? NoFX. No, NoFX. Is No FX, the band with- The band with- No, yeah, with- What's her name in? No FX. No, no FX.

Is she still in the band? With what's her name? I don't think it was everyone. Oh, I'm thinking of someone else. You might be thinking of someone else, yeah. Oh, no FX. Oh, they're like the old band. Yeah, they're-

With Fat Mike. Yeah, with Fat Mike. Yeah, they're- Yeah, with Fat Mike. I was thinking of No- What was it called? Don't Speak. Oh, no, that's No Doubt.

No Doubt. Gwen Stefani. Yeah, yeah, that one. I thought, wow, Oh no That's No Doubt Gwen Stefani Yeah yeah That one I thought wow You traveled to see No Doubt No I did not Travel to see

No Doubt No I went to go See NoFX And it's They're done touring I think They're almost 60 So they're just like

You know what We're done touring I think they'll still Make music But Fat Mike Opened up a museum In Las Vegas Called the Punk Rock Museum,

which is kind of interesting because you can actually get guided tours from people who are in bands, like including him. From Dale Chihuly. Yeah, you get Dale Chihuly does a day where he does guided tours. What's his name? Doug McClellan will turn up and he's got his mother-in-law there. Yes, everybody there can give you a tour of the history of punk rock if you want to, if you live in Las Vegas and you want to do that sort of thing.

There's other punk rock museums available, but that is the most recent one I've heard of. Is their name meant to be No Fucks? No, No FX. It's based off a band that they used to listen to called Negative Effects. And then they just called themselves No Effects, apparently. I could be wrong about this. I'm sure somebody will write in correcting me, but this is just what I've read. Was it good?

It was good. Yeah, it was really good. So, they're doing this thing where I don't think they want to think about it too much, but so they just play two albums. And then, you know, there's a couple of little bits and pieces in between. So the first album that they played was an album called Punk and Drublick, which is probably their most famous album. Came out in 95. I remember it from being a teenager because it was, you know, the skate punk era and everybody loved listening to all of that music and skateboarding and stuff. So I remember the album coming out and I remember getting it. And then they played another album called Wolves and Wolves Clothing, which came out in 2006.

By then I didn't really, I didn't follow them much or listen to them much. It's more like a nostalgic thing for me, you know, like this band that I used to listen to is mostly as a teenager that I'd come back to time time to time to listen to as an adult or whatever but um it was good so like half of the show i knew all the songs i could sing along and then you know the other half is just like oh yeah this this this is definitely no effects i just have not listened to any of these songs before or you know i've heard them in games or or something like that but not like the full album sort of thing, you know? So it was good though. It was really, really good. They're on stage.

I don't know if you've ever seen them perform live or whatever, but their banter on stage and between songs and stuff is always pretty funny. They're just sort of this chaotic band of, you know, drug addicts and alcoholics and stuff. And it was good. It was a good time. I went with a couple friends it was good to see them too it was just nice oh i thought you'd literally gone alone no no no i didn't go didn't go alone and then uh and next up is uh blur at wembley stadium baby

oh boy that's gonna be fun too i can't wait enjoy i've never been to wembley stadium before so oh it's so yeah it Yeah, it looks fantastic. We're looking forward to hear about that. We're gonna stop then, aren't we? We've got to stop this podcast. Yeah. But thank you. We will be back next week and have a lovely time, everyone.

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