Triforce! - Triforce! #292: Post Ball Game Ball Game

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

Triforce! Episode 292! Flax went to the Mets v Phillies baseball game in London before getting a full body scan, Lewlew has been checking out Steam Next Fest and has some great recommendations! Go to http://mistymountaingaming.com and use code TRIFORCE to get 10% off your order. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And now on with the show. Good morning everyone and welcome back. Good morning to another podcast. Wow. Gosh, we're still doing these guys. Can you believe it? Yep. Yep. I've had a very busy week. Yeah. Yeah.

I went. Is it because is it is it because Hunter Biden was found guilty on three counts of three felonies and you've been furiously blogging and spreading information? Corruption starts at the top and works its way down. I don't know, just absolute gibberish. I went to see the baseball on Sunday. The Mets and the Phillies played in the London series, which was two games. What? In London Stadium. Oh man.

I'm a big Mets fan, I love baseball, and I went... And did they play... Oh my god. Lucky. I wish I could go. Yeah, like, the London Stadium was the Olympic Park, I think it was a running track or something. They've converted it, West Ham, the football team, play there, but obviously the season's over, so it was free, and they converted it to a baseball park. And honestly, an amazing job.

Like, I've been to them in the US, I've been to a few in the US. It literally looked like a purpose-built baseball stadium. It was really something else. They had all the seats were in the right place, the netting was up, the field, everything. So that was great. And it was an experience. It was an experience. It was a very, very bad experience, and then it was a very, very good experience.

Wow. And, yeah. Okay. So, they've got the whole diamond, and everything it was a very very good experience. Wow. And, uh, yeah. Okay. So, so they've got the whole diamond... Yeah. And everything... Everything. Do they have, like, a half-time... do they have the mascots?

Do they have all the, like, popcorn? Everything. What is it, is there not popcorn, um, hot dog? I can't remember... they had it all. Yeah, they had it all. I mean, it was... if you were stepped out of America and walked in there, there'd be a few subtle differences, but... Yeah.

You wouldn't really feel out of place. And I mean- I've seen, I feel like I've seen so many of these on telly, but never been to one. It was great! It was great! We should go next year, I'm not kidding, it is so much fun. I'm down for that for sure. They call it ball games.

Yeah, take me out to the ball game. Let's go to the ball game. Take me out to the fair. They had all the usual tootling sort of doodledoodoo,, all the music and stuff like that, like between batters they got the walk-up music for each batter, they had the guys that do the chase, I think it's from like, first base round to third base, on the outside, sort of via home plate, they have to wear these big suits where they have giant heads, they did that, they did, like, the ceremonial first pitch was Rob McElhenney, his wife,

whose name I can never remember, she's also on the show. ALICE Yeah, deep, sweet, deep. ALICE Oh wow, from It's Always Sunny. Yeah, so because they're big Phillies fans, and because they're obviously over here a lot for the Wrexham thing, they were there. ALICE They did the ceremonial pitch, and who sung the National Anthem? RILEY It was, for the Americans, it was a lady who's on Broadway, I didn't know her, and it was

that- Broadway, you say? Broadway, yeah! Yeah! And that Welsh opera singer, I can't remember her name either, Catherine? Charlotte Church! No, not Charlotte Church, Catherine something or other? Catherine Jenkins.

Possibly, I have no idea. I think she's Irish, actually. No, I think she's... is she? Let's have a look. Either way, they sang, and that was amazing. But behind me there were a couple of Mets fans, there were some Mets fans scattered about, a lot of Phillies fans. A lot of Phillies fans.

ALICE They actually made the trip over the pond. JUSTIN Yeah, these guys behind me, this father and son, they flew out on the Thursday, they watched both games, they flew back Monday morning. And I was like, that is hardcore. ALICE Were they yelling things like, get off the field, you bums, to the Mets and stuff? Oh my god, man, you got the authentic... Fuck you, Utley! Like, when Chase Utley came out for the ceremonial first pitch, they were yelling stuff.

Go fuck yourself, fellas! Like really yelling. I was like, that sounds good. Let's go, Mets! Go on, Brian, hit the ball! You know, all that, they were really into it. I was loving it. G'day, Brian!

G'day! G'day! You seen it now? All that kind of shit. Um, but I, you seen it now?" All that kind of shit. But I tell you what, the people I was sat with for the first six innings were the worst people I've ever sat with to watch anything, ever, in my life. It was unbelievable. Let me tell you what happened.

I get there. ALICE This is it. So I'm so interested in who goes to this, right? Because... ALICE Who did you go with, though? RILEY Alone. I went alone. No one would come with me. ALICE Why didn did you go with, though? Alone. I went alone. Oh wow. Why did you go?

No one would come with me. Why didn't you ask? I would've gone. What, you're gonna fly over from Jersey? Yeah, it's not that far. Sips is looking for an excuse to get out. I mean, I've seen you over here so rarely, I honestly didn't expect you to come over. I don't travel that much, but I would for that. I'm sorry.

I think you didn't invite the right people, or you secretly wanted to go alone. No! I desperately did not want to go alone. None of my mates that live in London would go, they were like, baseball? Fuck off. A few of the guys on my Discord went, but like, I bought my tickets, they bought their tickets, we were not like sat together or anything, we were just like, oh you're going to the game?

I was like, yeah. I asked everyone I knew in London, I didn't think anyone would travel for it, I should have asked, I apologise. But yeah, I was like, yeah. I asked everyone I knew in London, I didn't think anyone would travel for it, I should have asked, I apologize. But yeah, it was like... ALICE I guess a lot of Americans travel to come and see it here. RILEY Yeah, there were loads of Americans. I don't know what percentage. ALICE They do travel. I'll tell you something, when I was in Disney a couple weeks ago, filled with Americans, man, I don't know if it was like a holiday for them or something, like, you know... RILEY In France, you mean?

ALICE Yeah. In France, you mean? Yeah. In France, yeah. They were everywhere, constant, like, it was crazy. You're not used to it though, because every other time I've been it's mostly, like, Europeans, you know? But this time just felt like it was swamped with Americans for some reason. Maybe it's summer holidays for them over there or something.

It's a good exchange rate or something, I don't know. So yeah, do you reckon it's, I was gonna say, is it Americans on holiday, or is it like, Americans who live here? It was a combination. They might go to Paris and they might think like, oh, let's just go to Disney for the day while we're here sort of thing. Cause like, we did that when we went to Japan. Like, we didn't even know that there was a Disney in Tokyo when we went to Japan, but

then while we were there we were like, oh shit, we should go check it out, it might be fun. So maybe that's what they do, I don't know. I mean Paris is a very, very touristy place, so it's not... Wouldn't be uncommon for loads of Americans to be there. I think it's one of those destination things for Americans to go to Paris. Paris, France. It's gotta be Paris, France.

It's so archetypically Europe, isn't it? It's like, you gotta go see Paris. Yeah, yeah. But, so, I'd say, I don't know what percentage, I heard a lot of American voices, a lot of Americans, I figured, over here for work, or they work here, or something. Did they have the let's get ready to rumble guy as well? No, that's not for baseball. They don't do that. Sometimes they have him out, though, for different sporting events and stuff, just for a bit

of fun. I've never seen him sporting events and stuff, just like for a bit of fun. Because I think I think they had him at WW. Well, at the time was WWF Monday Night Raw. That's wrestler though. And they brought him out for that. He's a fighting guy. He's not a baseball guy. I don't know if they got Catherine Jenkins. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

The boy Saudi guy. He said it. Let's go to. No, she can't say it, though. It's copyright. It's copyright by the let's Get Ready to Rumble guy. That's true. She'd have to say it in Welsh maybe. Yeah.

But so, I get there, I've got my seat, my row, for about 12 seats, is empty, which was a surprise. Then in front of me it's packed, and behind me it's packed, all Phillies fans, all Welsh. And they were, I was like, that's unusual, why are they all Phillies fans from Wales? Turns out they're from Wrexham, I guess they've come because of Rob McElhenny, and I was like that's unusual why are they all Phillies fans from from Wales turns out they're from Wrexham I guess they've come because of Rob McElhenny and I think they're Wrexham fans that's it took me about five innings to figure this out because the Wrexham accent is seemingly very very different from the Welsh accents I'm used to your Davs your Sophies you know what I mean those kind of Welsh accents I guess the southern Welsh accents Wrexham

accent was very different for I thought they were Scousers for a bit, I really couldn't put my finger on it. They were the worst people to watch baseball with, the absolute worst. I get there, there's a couple in front of me, they've bought the meter long hot dog, it's like a yard long, it's so big, and they're struggling to eat it to the point where when the woman, some of her friends turn up, she turns to them and shows them her hands and it still makes me wretch thinking about it. They are covered in cheese.

Like, as if you- This is very familiar to me. People often struggle eating my meat or long hot dog and end up covered in cheese as well. Dude, it was so gross. It was stupid. It was like a toddler. And her partner's hands are also covered in cheese. Their mates are laughing.

They just licked their hands clean. Like dogs. It was disgusting. ALICE Oh my god. Like animals. Fucking barnyard animals. WILL It was so bad. And then they're constantly joking about how shit baseball is.

Oh, we think we can do better, don't you? Hey! And because they're all sat in different parts, sort of closer, within shouting distance, any joke that one of them makes, they then have to yell to each of the other groups and get a different reaction from them. Of course, hysterical laughter. It's just like rounders, isn't it? That was a very popular joke, hilarious.

I think we could do better than this, don't you, Tony? That was a very popular joke. Uh, don't even know what the score is, mate. LaMau, that was a very very popular joke. No idea what's happening, do you? No, me neither, mate. Hey! Over and over and over again.

Standing up, sitting down, changing seats, getting food, getting drinks. All of this, all of this, for six fucking innings. And I was losing my mind. There's like a really tense at bat. Like bases loaded. What was the final score? The Mets won 5-4 I believe. Oh okay, so it could have been a pretty long one then.

It could have gone extra innings. Eventually some guy comes over, American guy, I didn't recognize him, they all knew him, and he gave them these passes to go to this sort of backstage bar, I guess because anyone who was a Wrexham fan was probably sent here by Rob McElhenny or something like that. So it was literally all the usual football fans for Wrexham were deposited here, they were having a great time. Like I'm not saying they weren't having fun, all I'm saying is, their fun came at the expense of all the other baseball fans who were actually there for the baseball, it was insufferable.

If you don't know what's happening, just go do something else. You're not watching the game, they barely watched the game. They watched like two minutes of it. They were just talking, drinking, eating. You could do that anywhere. Standing up all the time. Every time someone steps up to the plate, they're like standing up and having a fucking convo. It was unbearable. When they left, they left, they have the seventh inning stretch where everyone takes a slightly extended break to go get a beer and use the toilet or whatever. They left. All the seats filled up with actual baseball fans, because they were good seats. We were behind the Mets dugout.

Great. So they left during the seventh inning stretch? Oh, to go to their private bar. And I was like, fantastic. And I guess they got to meet Rob McElhenney and all that. And, you know, good luck, Rob. You can have him. I could not believe the change in tone.

I was gonna leave. I thought I was like, if the Mets get absolutely wiped out in the fifth inning, like if we down eight nothing or something, I'm just gonna go home because this is un fucking bearable. It was that bad. One thing I will say, when the game was over, I was like, shit, you've got like, I don't know how many thousands of people that were there, 60, 70, whatever, which is gonna take forever to get home. So I thought, man, it's gonna be like queueing up for two hours to get on the underground. I don't know how they did it!

I walked out, I was regular walking pace in this huge crowd of people, I get to the station, there's a train there, I get on it, I get a seat, I'm on my way home. It was amazing. They've really figured that out. But, yeah, so that was the baseball. Amazing, amazing to go to, but if I went with friends it would be different, fuck me, these people almost ruined it. And it was something I'd been looking forward to for ages.

My team, playing in London, baseball, very exciting. Unbelievable, unbelievable. ALICE Man, that's a really cool story. ALICE Well, I'd like to counterbalance that story with my own story. Last Sunday I mowed my lawn. RILEY Oh hell yeah, what happened? It's now mowed. Did you hit anything weird in the grass?

Not a thing. Have you ever been mowing and hit a snail? The grass was about a meter high though, I had really left it. Did you stream it down first? I streamed it down, yeah. I streamed it all down and then mowed it. But it looks, yeah. I streamed it all down and then mowed it. But it looks nice now. But actually, it's all dead now, because I think all of the growth in the water was higher

up and everything down at the bottom was suffering. It all goes yellow and shit, right? Yeah, it's all yellow and shit now. But, you know. It was good. It was a good time. Sure. It's nice to get out there, you know.

I got one of those really adjustable streamers, because we've got a tree in our backyard. It's kind of tough to get under, so I made the strimmer like really small. And then I had to sort of like shuffle in under the tree to strim in and around the tree. And my family thought this was very funny and took a picture of me. Which I'm not going to share, because half of my ass is showing in the picture as well. So, there you go. Yeah. It was one of those Sundays, you know? Everybody... No? Nobody knows? Okay. Alright.

I haven't had a lawn in thirty years. When you got back there, stones? Yeah. Paving stones. Yeah, we got a paved garden. Chippings? No. No chippings? No chippings.

No chippings. It's not very good for the... Just slabs. For the ecosystem, you know, you should re-green it. Okay, so, let me just explain something to you, alright? You should see all the bees we get in our backyard. When we moved in here, when we moved in here, there was grass. It was dead.

Because the houses around here are just tall enough and narrow enough and you have just enough space so there's not enough sun for a lawn. You need a good amount of sunlight for a lawn or the corners just die. You end up with this patchy lawn and it was shit. So we had it paved. What we have at the back is like a raised bed teeming with flowers and plants, bees all over the place. All over the place.

Yeah, but that's artificial. They're fake bees. They're not fake. They're real.. They're not fake. They're real. They're real. Nice. That's a little round of applause for that one.

Thanks. Well, at least, yeah, thanks. Thanks very much. I mean, look, bees don't, I guess grass helps them a little bit? I don't think grass is very good either, honestly. I'm already messing with you. We tried our best. We got a tiny garden.

What do you want me to fucking re-wild the world from my back garden? You should write a song about it. Yeah. In the style of The Beatles. You know, that sounds like a Beatles song, doesn't it? What does? Sitting in my tiny London garden! Gotta work in a weed reference, cause that was really cool back then.

Yeah, yeah. Gotta work in a weed reference, cause that was really cool back then. What simple times? That even hinting that you were smoking weed, everyone's like, he's talking about weed, can you believe it? Ooh! ALICE I mean, it's still the same, though, isn't it? People still react to all of the weed triggers the same way.

WILL Yeah, but it's not like, what were they, fucking Cypress Hill was subtle. Some of their songs would open with the sound of a bong. Exactly. Literally just singing about it. Yeah, it's true. Do you know what I did yesterday? Sorry, the day before yesterday.

Did you stream your lawn? I didn't. I had a full body examination. Ooh, I thought you were gonna say massage. No, health check. Oh, I thought you were gonna say massage. No, sadly not. Alright. I was in an MRI machine for fifty minutes. Jesus Christ.

Good grief. You've been in one of those? I know. I have, yeah, for my prostate thing, and guess what? In September, I'm going in again. Oh wow. They're monitoring it. Oh wow, okay.

I know. Yep. I haven't had to have any more ass play or anything. They didn't go up there for me at all. Every six months I have to get a blood test and they examine it to check the PSA level. Well, I didn't have any fingers anywhere. It was... Luckily for you.

Well, I guess they just took society with the old MRI instead. Did you have the slanted mirror thing so that you could look at a projection on the wall outside of the machine? No. Oh, you were just in there? In there. In the tube. Like, you were maybe relaunched like a torpedo.

Yeah, and I get claustrophobia, quite badly. Yeah, so, in that thing, for sure. I mean, I get it, but I had it in that, but luckily when I went in they had like, it was like a little slanted mirror, so when you look straight into the mirror you could actually just see the room. That's awesome. No, nothing. All I had was a ceiling two inches from my head. And those things are so loud, I had no idea.

I had to have earplugs in, then they put headphones on, and the lady said to me, the nurse said to me, what music do you want to play? And when someone asked me that, I'm like, geez, 50 minutes? I was like, what do you have? She goes, anything on YouTube. So they just- K-pop, please. And I was like, geez, I don't know. She's like, what do you like? And I was like, what do most people go for? She was like, oh, classical music to calm them down. I was like, oh, I don't really like classical music. She was like, what about Oasis? I was like, please

don't play Oasis. Oh my god. And then she- I'd be like an animal in there, clawing at the walls and everything. And then she's like, what about Led Zeppelin? I was like, yeah, fine, put some Led Zeppelin on. Forgetting. Oh man, you get some Moby Dick on there.

Do you have an NWA? Another NWA. Get some Moby Dick Extended Edition, it's just drums, it's just a massive drum lead up and solo and stuff. I forgot that Robert Plon is a fan of going, HAAAAAAAHAAAA! Like that. It's kind of nerve-racking when you're in a tube. So, about twenty minutes in the guy comes over on the mic and he's like, everything alright sir?

I was like, could you change the music, please? And he's like, what do you want to change it to? And I was like, uh, Fleetwood Mac, put some Fleetwood Mac on. So he puts some Fleetwood Mac on. Because by that point you'd had time to think, that's all you had, that's all you were doing, you were like, what else? I was like, why did they say Fleetwood Mac? Do you even think about other music that is not what I chose?

Something nice and relaxing, and then when they put that on it was better. And then they took some blood and everything, and then this other doctor did an ultrasound of my balls. Right. Wow. So I lie on the bed, I have to take my trousers down, like everything, pants, trousers down to my knees, lie there, he gives me a tissue to hold my old fella up, and then he gets gel, puts it all over my nut sack, and goes at it with the fucking ultrasound, and he

was like, yep, all good. I was like, great, but I didn't get to see, I really was trying to crane my neck to have a look at my nads on the monitor. And I thought, what are the kind of jokes that people would make in this situation that he's sick of hearing? And I was tempted to say like, you know, is it twins? Or something like that. But I thought, I just won't say anything.

And he did the scan. I didn't realize that they would do that. But he was like, yeah, did it. It was great. I can't not imagine the video that I just posted in general, when somebody even mentions Led Zeppelin now. I'm ruined. Every time.

If anybody mentions Led Zeppelin, my immediate thought is this stupid video. ALICE Phil Swift sings Immigrant Song by Led Zeppelin, then crashes into a store. ALICE It's' so stupid. Cause he sings it, but then he goes like louder as he crashes into the store. It's fuckin' dumb. It's so dumb. It's very stupid. Yeah, it is.

It gets me every time. It's a very stupid video. Every time it gets me. So yeah, I had a similar thing with the ultrasound balls. Oh yeah? It was good. Yeah, it's exactly the same deal. Well with the ultrasound balls, it was good. Yeah, it was exactly the same deal. Well, recently. Yeah, yeah, I did.

I'm sure I mentioned it on the podcast. Well, anyway, exactly the same experience. Yeah, David Dad's The Tissue. Yeah! Very interesting. It did just... The MRI thing was really... I came out and I was expecting to be super nervous, but I found it very relaxing, eventually.

It was kinda like an isolation booth, y'know? It was like one of those. ALICE Yeah. Even with the clunking. Just with the clunking of magnets in the background. RILEY No, I immediately regretted having any music. Like I thought, I could just lie here, and I found the... ALICE You just wanted to hear the clunking and clanking.

RILEY Yeah! I found it, it was just like, trying to predict what was gonna buzz next. Trying to detect if there was any weird vibrations. The questions they asked was like, do you have any metal in your eyes? ALICE Yeah, did you move even slightly while you were in there? RILEY I did not move at all. My entire body had gone to sleep.

ALICE You cannot even move slightly. Like I adjusted myself in between, thinking it was fine to do this, and she was like, uh, did you just move? And I was like, yeah, I just had to adjust myself, like my ass was falling asleep or whatever. And she's like, oh gosh, okay, try not to move, we have to restart this bit, so, no, sorry. No, I did not move a muscle.

Like, but I was getting... Cause I just, I got into as comfortable a position as I could, lying on this fucking thing, and I just thought, just don't move. Don't even focus on not moving. ALICE Don't even think about it. RILEY Just, all I focused on, I do this when I can't sleep sometimes, I relax every muscle in my body one by one, until it's completely... cause you'll notice that sometimes when you're trying to fall asleep, something is tensed

up, like your hands... ALICE This is a very common relaxation technique. RILEY Just, just really good. ALICE Recommended. It works brilliantly. ALICE Close your eyes, imagine that there's a little bit of water under you, and that you're just stuck in a cave. And it's rising slowly, just imagine it. In the middle of nowhere, and nobody is gonna ever help you. Imagine there's a bus

coming towards you. Yeah. Just, it's coming faster and faster. Imagine you're on a U-boat, and the captain has just loaded you, because they're out of torpedoes, and he shouts, FIRE! Just imagine that. But in German. But in German. Yes. Yeah. What is the word for fire in German?

It's foyer. Flam, flam, flam. Flam. Feuer. It's literally Feuer. I've played you both enough. Is it? Yeah.

And it's actually, no, that's Spanish. Sorry. English to, um... ALICE You've been launched into the briny depths towards a British battleship. ALICE And your only chance of survival is Elon Musk developing a submarine that can navigate the caves and get to you. If you say no, you'll be real- And then a queue is somebody who's being petified along the way. You know what's funny is, that was the moment that I think people started to realise, oh,

he's crazy! Yeah, I didn't know much about him, honestly. I just thought, oh, man, this guy's really pushing space and everything, holy crap, he wants to go to Mars! I just thought, I don't know much about him, but it was interesting. And then that happened. I was like, Oh, he's a nut. Yeah.

Immediately I looked into it and then I was like, Oh, okay. Well, this guy is insane. You know, did you watch the movie they made about it? Uh, no, I saw it came up. I didn't see a movie about it. I watched a big documentary about it. So there's a movie too. And the movie's actually not bad.

I mean, it's very much, you know, you know what's coming. But they completely skip over the Elon incident, and I thought it would be funny if they dramatised it, but they didn't. It's the Thailand cave rescue from like, five years ago, right? Where there was those school kids. Were they like a football team? Something like that, and the coach was like, let's go for a walk. And traditionally this is like an area people walk.

It's not unusual to go and explore the caves, it's like no big deal, but I think there was some kind of flash flood, or unsuspecting rain, and it flooded unsuspectingly. It was seasonally unusual. Something along those lines. Could be wrong. But I'm pretty sure that the coach was like, no one was like, you fucking dick. You made them swim underwater to go and explore the caves. No.

These caves are, most of the time you can go in them no problem, but in the rainy season you cannot. And they got stuck in there because of that water. It is an amazing, amazing story that they got them out. And these guys, these experts in cave diving and stuff, we've spoken about, all of us I think have agreed we would never do it in a million fucking years. No way.

Terrifying. I would never go into a part of a cave that I had to swim to get to. No! No! I would just, that would just be... there's no way. Well, I think the issue for me is that there's like, you're going either often so deep or so far, that if there's a problem, it's like ten minutes to get out. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it's not like you could just surface,

you know, like you're at a video game or whatever. Or there's like a convenience air pocket. ALICE Like, a couple of things for me. I'd go into like the mouth of a cave and just have a look around just to get like a feel for what the rest of the cave would probably be like. But, if there was like a weird rumbling, I'd be out of there immediately. If I heard a voice coming from deep in the cave, I mean, again, immediately, I'd be out of there. It wouldn't take much to get me out of there, really. Like I would be like, OK, well, this is cool.

Let's go. Yeah, I'd just be out of there. Like I would not want to spend very much time at all inside. You'd be like, what's that? I'd just step in to say, oh, yeah, I went in and out of there. I would not want to spend very much time at all inside. I wouldn't just step in to say, oh yeah, I went in and had a look, and that would be enough for me. You'd be like, what's that? Oh, that's a bat. Yeah, I'm leaving. No wait, they're normal. They're perfectly allowed in.

No, I'll see you guys later. Bye. Enjoy your bats. I'm out of here. Before we continue, I listened to a podcast called A Better Paradise, volume one, an aftermath. It's written by the team behind Red Dead Redemption and Grand Theft Auto. Wow. Oh, wow.

And it's really nice near future sci-fi. I love near future sci-fi. It's 12 episodes long, very, very cool, like set in 2041 and it sort of talks about the ill-fated development of an ambitious but addictive digital game world. I won't do any spoilers but it's really cool and I really really liked it. It's got an all-star cast including Andrew Lincoln from The Walking Dead, Shamir Anderson, Rain Spencer, Patterson Joseph, you may have heard of. All right I'm gonna listen to this for sure. It's called A Better Paradise. A Better Paradise. I've got it downloaded on Spotify as we speak.

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It's the documentary about the woman whose husband tried to kill her during a skydive. You remember hearing about this? No. It happened in 2015. What, was he like gonna cut her shoot or something? She was... No.

He basically tampered with the shoot in the bathroom before she got on to do the skydive. And she was like, she'd skydived. Like she had like 2500 skydives under a belt or whatever. She just had, they just had a baby and she was, you know, a bit sleep deprived and stuff, but she, and the husband's like, why don't you go for a skydive? You know, like it'll, it'll be good for you, you know, get, get, get away from the kids just for a bit and you know, whatever. And she's like, yeah, okay, yeah, I'd like to do that. And then basically just tampered with the shoot before she went. And then she jumped 4,000 feet plus and survived. Jesus!

Yeah, she's still, yeah, so she survived the fall. And then the police are like, this is crazy, like this never happens, you know, because your main shoot failed and the reserve shoot failed as well. And she's like, I mean, I've never even heard of this before. And I've done a lot of skydiving and they're like, okay, well, you know, who could have been with, you know, around your shooter or whatever? And she's like, well, my husband. And they're both like military.

Like, she's like a physiotherapist for the, for the military. And he's like a Sergeant or something. And they're part of a skydiving club. They go like all the time and stuff. But the more they find out about the husband, he's just a psychopath. Jesus. Yeah. He's like having an affair. And he's telling this woman that he's having an affair with that, like their child isn't his, that his wife had had an affair and cheated on him, which she hadn't. And then they're like, is there anything else that you want to tell us now that we've told

you all this? Anything weird happened recently? And she's like, yeah, come to think of it, two weeks ago we had a gas leak at our house. So he just tried to fucking kill all of them, and that didn't work, and then did the parachute thing. So he's never coming out? Yeah, well, I think the first trial failed to reach a verdict, and then he was retried again in 2018, and he was sentenced to life in prison.

Holy crap. It's crazy. It's mad, eh? It is mad. The documentary's kinda like, they interview her eventually, but there's a bit of dramatization and then interviews with the police that were involved, and people that were involved in and around the incident and stuff, but it's really interesting, but it's fucking crazy, too.

It's just... Can't believe it. It's just... Can't believe it. It's wild. So there you go. It's on channel four, it's called... I can't remember. Like The Fall or something like that? Jesus.

Yeah. Murder plot. The Fall Skydive Murder Plot. Three part documentary. I love watching these things. Yeah, yeah, watch it. So far it's been really good. Yeah.

Ugh. It's so interesting. It's almost like reality TV, in a sense. With a casual side of attempted murder, but no one actually died. Which is actually quite a positive vibe. There's a part in it where the detectives are like, okay, we need to know who we're dealing with here. Because they interviewed the the guy and then they wanted to interview him again. So they got a psychologist in to interview him first so that he could make an assessment and tell them what type of person he is. The psychologist came back and said, he's a psychopath.

He's a massive narcissist and a psychopath. And you just have to be careful with how you interview him, or you'll get nothing from him. So, the best thing you can do is just let him talk, and he'll just dig a hole. And sure enough he does. He just cannot stop, you know, he's talking about this, that, and the other, you know, how he's having an affair, and his marriage has never worked, and all this stuff. Oh, it's insane.

It's just insane. Worth a watch for sure. Just let people talk, and they incriminate themselves. wow. Oh, it's insane. It's just insane. Just let people talk. Just let people talk, for sure. And they incriminate themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's great.

What have you been up to, Lulu, this week? You've been quiet. Uh, this week, I have been reaching out to and chatting to people for Jingle Jam. Oh my god, man. I started starting that wheel rolling. It's like, only June! I know. It's a year long... every time I've been

down to the office, when it's not Jingle Jam, Lulu's answering and sorting emails for lining shit up. The man is a fucking machine! ALICE Nice. ALICE Yeah. I've been playing a few games, cause it's been Steam Next Fest. ALICE Oh, shit, yeah, I haven't checked it up. JUSTIN What is the Next Fest?

What does it mean? ALICE It's basically a load of shit, completely unfinished demos of early act- like, honestly, like... What is the next fest? What does it mean? ALICE It's basically a load of shit, completely unfinished demos of early... Honestly, like... SEAN It's celebrating all the stuff that's coming out in like a year. ALICE Yeah.

But the problem is none of that shit is even close to ready, but Steam almost demands that they have a playable demo, right? Because, otherwise, people don't want to just add stuff to their wishlist. They do have a few games in there that you can't play, but mostly it's the whole point is this celebration of upcoming games with demos, but so many of them are so far away, and it's kind of the biggest festival that everyone wants to take part in, and as a result, most of the demos are shit. ALICE I played a good one recently called Hollywood

Animal, which is by the guys that do This Is The Police, but it's like the Golden Age Hollywood, like right before the Great Depression. And you basically manage a studio and you have to commission films and you have to train up your staff and get directors and producers and stuff that can make better and better movies. And it's just like, it's like the movies without, you know the game The Movies, the Lionhead Studios game from a long time ago. Without like, the dorky, you know, actually make the movies and then publish them to YouTube.

There's none of that stuff, but all the management stuff seems really nice, actually. You streamed that, was that a sponsored thing? It was a sponsored thing, yeah, but I'm really looking forward to coming out to play it some more. The one I did play that I really looking forward to coming out to play it some more. The one I did play that I really thought was good was Tactical Breach Wizards. Oh yeah! Is it any good? Someone recommended it to me.

Well, you know, Tom Francis, who was the journalist who sort of changed to a gamedev. He made Gunpoint, then he made Heat Signature. This is his third game, and sometimes that's where game devs really pick up their stride. Anyway, this tactical breach wizard space feels a lot like XCOM Chimera Squad, right? In its small-scale XCOM room battles. You breach, you have to solve the puzzle of, if I send this guy here, and this guy here, but the whole thing is like, it's got these wizards who have guns, and this whole universe of druids and guns.

It's honestly really cool. The writing of the story is just really funny and fun and good. And I liked it a lot, and the universe is cool. It looks great, it plays really well. You can tell that he has played Chimera Squad and XCOM, and all of those things that you expect in there are in there, right? And the great thing about it is it's very much rewind-y. Almost like you know, into the breach or whatever.

But even better than that, you can basically fully rewind every turn, and you can play out what would happen on the enemy turn. So you can sort of see, oh right, he's gonna walk around here, and walk into my Overwatch and die. So it's very satisfying. Oh, cool. So, it doesn't come out until August, which is not that long away. That's like, two months. Yeah. But the demo's really good, it's an hour and a bit, it's worth playing. I don't play demos anymore. I used to, like, when you'd get PC Zone or something...

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you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you other games not at all. I just, yeah, I don't think every game needs Early Access. No, I don't think so either. Like something like Baldur's Gate 3, which is an incredibly complex game, with so many variables, I think absolutely doing like a sort of beta testing thing, almost, Early Access, people are in there, you know, we'll play through the first act, that way you're not spoiling the whole game for yourself, and you know, we'll play through the first act, that way you're not spoiling the whole game for yourself, and, you know, we'll figure out all these little finicky combat things that you're like, this spell does this wrong, and everything. Iron all that out, fantastic.

But something like, so I've been playing Cities Skylines a lot lately. ALICE What, two? JUSTIN No, one. ALICE Alright. JUSTIN And I dipped into two a little bit, and it's super bare. There's just like nothing there. And I'm not even saying, oh, it doesn't have all the mods that Skylines 1 has, which of course it does. It doesn't.

But actually the core of the game is still... It's just very bare, right? There's just not much there. Well, broken as well. They are working on fixing it, but it's a bit... But it's been out for a while. And it's like, it was in development for ages. It was meant to come out a while back, didn't, and you kind of thought, okay, that's because they decided it needs more of this or it needs more of that. It just, the whole thing feels really like a game, like it feels now like an early access game. Yeah. And I mean, and I think, I think really, if they just said it's early access, I think they would have probably solved a lot of the issues they're facing now.

It's just such a bad launch. And I also think the community for Cities Skylines, I think this would have been a good example for early access. Because you could say, alright, we're doing Cities Skylines 2... A game like that is perfect for early access. But you have to understand, though, here's the thing, right? In a vacuum, Cities Skylines 2 would be a fantastic game. But it exists with Cities Skylines 1 having such a vast community, a vast, like, years

and years of constant updates and passion and love. And DLC and everything for cities. I mean, it's a huge game that just got better and better and better over the years, because of not only the DLC, but all the mods as well. And it was fantastic to start with. But 2 sounds doesn't have modding support. Oh, it does now. So you can go onto Paradox mods and get mods there, it's way less.

There don't seem to be, I mean, geez. There's hundreds of thousands of mods at Skyline. Some of them are gameplay mods, some of them are just assets. If you want a style of architecture, if you want a particular shop, if you want a particular kind of car park, you'll fucking find it. And I've done that. My Skylines one is has got a really good mod set thanks to a guy in my chat who helped me out, Jay Cree, and a whole bunch of assets I've added in.

I'm loving it. And Skylines one is so good that when you look at Skylines 2 you almost feel like, did this need a sequel? Like that's the problem, is that it needs to offer more. Now I love the idea of a sequel that comes in... That's a really good point. ...and fixes some broken stuff from Skylines 1, like the way the traffic is kinda dumb, or the way there's a bit of a weird limit when it comes to building stuff is a little

clunky. Update it, absolutely. But we had the same thing with Kerbal Space Program, right? Kerbal Space Program 2 is like, do we need a 2? Because 1 is so good and there's all these mods. I feel like, unless you're gonna reinvent it, in which case it's no longer Skylines 2, it's something else, it needs to be really polished, really good, have enough out of the gate that people are gonna come over and at least play it.

And even if they go back to one... It should be at least as good as the first. It should. But I mean, obviously it's impossible. With some icing on top. It's impossible to have all of these mods in there from day one, because that took years to build that up. And all the DLC and stuff, I completely get it.

But if the game... But they missed so much. If the game shipped with the same mod support as the first one, the people who made mods for the first one would happily have started making mods for the second one. Or, if it had had a little bit of early access, modders could have gotten in there, gotten hundreds of mods ready for when the game went to launch. I don't know what happened. It wouldn't have been as jarring. The development or...

Yeah. I don't know whether it was the launch. There's so much broken in it, though. I think you've got to under... You can't expect, at all, and you never should, to rely on the kindness of the community to embrace your game and make free content for it, right? You shouldn't. That shouldn't be part of your marketing plan, either.

No, but Skylines is different, I think. But it's such a big part of the game. There's lots of games that become kind of defined by the community content. Skyrim. Skyrim being one of them, Fallout 4 now being one of them, you know. These are games that, vanilla, when they shipped, were hugely popular, hugely successful, but the longevity of the game is... ALICE 100%

ALICE Down to the community. ALICE XCOM is another great example. XCOM 2? You've got a bunch of mods for that, and some of them are like must haves. ALICE Rimworld as well? I mean, the DLC that's coming out for Rimworld is fantastic, but man, some of the mods equally... I mean, the DLC is basically just big streamlined mod packs, isn't it? It's mostly stuff that exists already. I mean, but that's the thing is I feel like if a mod is really good, Tyner just puts it in the next release. Yeah.

Like, he'll just be like, you know what, that's a really good base mechanic. I'll just put that in the game. Yeah. And I think with Skylines 2, there were certain mods that, I mean, Traffic Manager is a prime example. The fact that that functionality is not in the base game for Skylines 2 makes me think, how'd you miss that? Like, that should be such an easy get. It's like, okay, people actually really enjoy the traffic management side of the game. For some reason it's a fun little puzzle, I enjoy that part of it.

But there's just lack of variety in the assets. You'll put a bunch of residential down, it will look really similar. But it can be. Where did the years go? It doesn't feel like there's enough data to justify that to me. I think Cities 2 feels nicer to play. The toolset's nicer, the engine... I don't know if they're using a completely new one or if they've just heavily modified

the old one or whatever. I think that side of it feels really good in Cities 2, but it's all the systems that are so complex that just didn't work. When I played it, there was nothing seemed to work. You know, imports and exports didn't work, the economy didn't work. There's just so many things, like every house complained about high rent. There's these little bubbles above every single house. And you just could not solve it.

There was just so many little weird issues that, y'know, really should've just been fixed before the game came out. But again, if they'd done some early access, or maybe people had hands on for a lot longer before the game fully launched, it would've been a lot smoother. But, I dunno. I think a lot of it was pressure from the publisher, I think, was certainly what they've sort of hinted at. Sure, yeah. That it was like, look, you guys have been working on this for fucking years, we've got

to get this out, you know? But I also feel like the huge weight of expectation for a game like Skylines 2, it's very hard. Kerbal Space Program, I know the development for that was like fucking god knows what happened there, it was all over the place. But here's my thing, is you take the most popular aspects of the game, you take the most popular mods, you just improve the engine, you... I know that sounds like, oh, just improve the engine, but I'm just saying, in terms of what people would want from a sequel, we're on Civ 7. Civ 7 is coming out.

They're not gonna completely reinvent civilization, they're gonna do the third, third, third thing, it's gonna be dogshit for the first couple of years, but out of the box it's still gonna be a playable game, and it's gonna be different enough from Civ that people are gonna jump over to it and play it, because you just want to explore it, right? Skylines 1 is very similar to Skylines 2, but Skylines 2 is just less. Like, it's not changed or added, it's just less. So, it's alright. I hope they can turn it around.

I hope it becomes another No Man's Sky, or like Fallout 76, you know, these games that manage to turn themselves around, and are now seen as, yeah, these are great games. Fallout 76 has had a long turning circle, though, oh my god. It has had a long one, but it is very good. I've played it a lot, I'm still playing it now. I've played it, there's an expansion just came out. Anyway, would you like some news? News! Wait, it's loose news! Loose news! Ba ba ba ba ba ba loose news! It's party time! It's excellent!

Speaking of Exicom... Excom? Exicom. Exicom. Exicom. And there's like a bad demo I've played onitfest. There's a, like, a tactical tactics game called Troubleshooter Abandoned Children. What? With a weird name. But actually, it's quite good. What? Troubleshooter Abandoned Children.

What the fuck is that? This is anime, Lewis! I know, it's quite a good term-based strategy SRPG. I played it, I enjoyed it. Anyway... How is this news? One of the reviews was, can you add dating? Yeah, of course. And the dev replied, saying, sorry, dating system, it's a feature that a lot of people

want, but my team members have no experience with it even in real life." That's insane. Neither do the fans! That's where they need a simulator! Come on! Which I think is wonderfully honest and also very funny. That is a brilliant comment. There's been a record broken in Counter-Strike 2, a coveted weapon skin has sold for one

million dollars. Which weapon skin is it? It's an AK skin, it's a rare one. Very rare. A rare blue gem AK-47 skin. A million bucks?! It's like, I think it's from... you can only get it from a much older box and the chance of getting it is super rare in itself.

And then getting this version, like the factory new or whatever, with this, you know, it's like an incredibly small chance of getting it in the first place. And look, if you're some super rich lad with way more money than sense and you just want to collect this shit, people are gonna collect shit. People pay all that money for Magic the Gathering cards and comic books. I don't think this is any different. Yeah, it's actually wild, but... I mean, it's crazy, but it's not like this is anything new. People paying over the odds

for some collectible. Well, exactly. Pokémon cards and stuff. There was a Pokémon festival happening in the Philippines. Called? The Premiere Pokémon Themed Expo. Is it called Pokefest? Pokeverse. Oh, of course. Alright. in the Philippines. It's the premier Pokéball themed expo called... Pokefest. Pokeverse. Oh, of course. Alright. However, it went terrible.

Was it like the Lego thing? Fire Festival style. Lego style. It's, it's, it had like, it was like a fan run event, you know, so it was very... It promised all these things, like big guests, activities and officially licensed merchandise, you know, although not official, officially licensed. It was a little bit like the Wonka experience or the classic like Dashcon or whatever way it was like. When the expo finally opened guests were greeted by a large barren space. The starter wall of one Bulbasaur plushie, one Charizard plushie, one Squirtle plushie. There was no giant Pikachu as promised. Oh wait, I have realised there is a fundamental difference between collecting CSGO skins and

anything else I listed. One is digital, so you're not even gonna own it forever. Because, you know, these things are ephemeral, aren't they? You can't leave. And didn't Steam even, didn't Valve even say you can't leave your Steam account to someone in a will? I think was a bit of news that they came out with the other week as well. Yeah, like, yeah, that was the thing. It's like your Steam account dies with you. Which is a bit weird. So a lot of people have these weird Steam accounts.

Like, like if you run like a cafe, like an internet cafe, right, you've probably got like 10 Steam accounts or more, you know, with all these games on that you've bought multiple copies of. And yeah, like, but then again, Pflats, you know how corporations are people, there's a thing, isn't it? But does that mean they're only allowed one Steam account for the whole corporation? Wait, are they people? Or was it that they're not people? I can't remember. No, I think they are people. Corporations are people. They're not people, though, are they? Everybody knows that. Well, I mean that's...

Some smarty-pants corporate lawyer proved that they are, and now apparently they are, but we know they're not. It's gibberish. Corpora- yeah. Corporations are people. Anyway. Are they like clams and crabs? Obviously. Yeah. They are people. There's, uh, there was this... there's apparently a thing called Diamond Shroom's micro-dosing chocolate bars. Where can you get them? That you can get. Well, I wouldn't, because people have been having loss of consciousness, seizures, confusion,

sleepiness, agitation, abnormal heart rates, hypo or hypo-hy tension, nausea and vomiting. This is my everyday, so this doesn't sound like it's gonna have any effect. Uh, yeah. So, it turns out eating some... eating shrooms, even in a chocolate bar form, has the same chance of giving you... I know people that have done shrooms times and they've never had all that shit. No, me too. I think this is bad shrooms, man.

Some bad shrooms. Yeah, well, it's always tricky, isn't it, cause I guess these shrooms are kind of... I guess they're still foraged. A lot of them you can't farm. I think it's quite difficult to farm certain mushrooms. Are they unruly crops? Mushrooms. So you have to go and actually get them yourself.

And as a result, if you've got this product that you're selling loads of that needs to source all of these mushrooms, then I can... it's not consistent, is it? That's what industry wants. It wants consistency. And that's what you think you're buying when you're getting something in a box, right? If you're getting mushrooms off your mate, and they look like mushrooms in a little bag, they're probably... he or she or they probably know where they came from, right?

Filled with dog shit. Little flecks of dog shit. God. Right. Next. Well, y'know, if you're letting your dog near those hallucinogenic mushrooms... Dogs can eat mushrooms, I think. There are things, the list of things dogs can't eat is ridiculous.

But I'm pretty sure mushrooms is okay. Can dogs eat mushrooms? ALICE I mean, hallucinogenic ones, I mean. Do they get? JUSTIN Chopped mushrooms are fine. However, mushrooms in meals are often cooked with added extras such as salt, as well as onions and garlic, onions and garlic you can't give to doggoids. No.

ALICE Really? Well they can't have onions or garlic? JUSTIN No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. ALICE What if I call my dog Super Mario? Nope. Still not allowed. Well, you can give him mushrooms. Mario doesn't eat onions and garlic, does he?

Course he does. He's eating some... He's eating the pasta! He's Italian! There is, you know what, that's funny, there is no pasta in any of the Mario games. Hey, what are you... No, you're right, actually. Thinking about it.

He does eat mushrooms, though. Lots of them. Yeah, he does go down the tube. Thinking about it. He does eat mushrooms, though. Lots of them. He does go down the tube, the tubes, though. He eats flowers. Although he likes spaghetti. It's because he's a plumber, that's why. He could be any nationality.

He eats flowers, he eats mushrooms. Stars. Yeah. Raccoon tails. Yeah. What's your favourite type of pasta, guys? What, as in, like, fettuccine, spaghetti, linguine, that kind of dish? I like fusilli, you know, like the spirally stuff?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's just so good. Farfalle is okay, but it kind of breaks up a little bit at the edges, it's an unstable formation. Farfalle is... That's the worst one! Do you know what I can't eat anymore? Yeah, I said it breaks up at the edges.

I can't eat filled pasta anymore. Man, it just burns a hole in my gut, like, there's no tomorrow. Really? Yeah. I don't know, man, just getting old. I can eat normal pasta with sauce, no problem. But filled pasta? There's something in it, I'm telling you.

I don't know what it is. I'm not a big fan of filled pasta. I like the sauce. I like it. In all honesty. I like the... I have filled pasta with a bit of sauce. What do you think about that?

Yeah. I like casarecce, which is like, it's called homemade, it's just real simple folded shape. Yeah. Ooh, I've never heard of that. That's nice. You can get some really nice- rigatoni, I like. Who's that? That's the, like, it's like a penne, but thicker, it's like a bigger penne.

Penne is nice. It's like giant penne. Penne is like the BA lounge special, isn't it? It's like a penne, but thicker. It's like a bigger penne. It's like giant penne. ALICE It's nice. Penne is like the BA lounge special, isn't it? Like, every time you... RILEY It's just a good solid pasta. ALICE Every time you're in an airport lounge, you got some penne pasta, baby.

ALICE Penne is the basic bitch pasta. Yeah, I'm not a fan. RILEY Fusilli's good because it has a lot of surface area with the spiral. You get a lot of sauce on that pasta. ALICE Oh yeah, I think the spiral is good. RILEY Alright, Conchigli. I like Conchigli. That's a good pasture as well.

The conchiglioni, yeah, whatever they are. But you know what, I just like, I really love... The ones that are like little conch shells. Vermicelli, spaghetti, linguini, I like those. What about fettuccine? What about making a bridge out of fettuccine? I like fettuccine. I like fettuccine.

Do you ever do that in design and tech class? You have to make a fettuccine bridge, and then you had to, like, put a sandbag underneath it to see if it would break and stuff? Of course. That's how you got started with bridge constructor. That's right, yeah, and then when it breaks, it breaks into a pot and you boil it up and the whole class gets to eat a little bit. What about Lulumarconi?

I did want to give one shoutout to a game I played, the Moorish thing, it's called... Cresti di Gallo. Cavatelli. Cavatappi. Canaroni. Calamarata. Macaroni. Tortelloni.

Tortellini. Capaletti. Stuck a feather in his cap and called it Rice-aroni. And called it Mezzaludde. Different kind of thing. So, do you remember Peglin? Did you like Peglin? I've never done it, mate.

Peglin? Did you like Peglin? I've never done it, mate. Peglin. It's like the little Pachinko-style roguelikey thing. That's exactly how it was described on Steam. Well done, Lulu. Thank you. There's one in Nextfest which I saw called Dungeon Clawler. And it's a claw machine version, so you basically have to grab stuff out of a claw machine, drop it in a hole, and that's the attacks and the defences. This looks good!

So it's like, oh, this thing's gonna attack me, I need to grab some shields out of the claw machine. I got some big news for you guys, actually. It's great, I recommend it. Guess what came out a couple of days ago? A big book you'd been brewing up for some time. Close. Actually, it's the Starfield creation kit, so now we can expect such heavy hitters as

Innies of Starfield, and... Big Timbs. Oh no. Boobs. Shlongs of Starfield. Oh no. That game came out, I saw the reviews, I saw people stream it, I could not be less interested. ALICE Once there's some mods for it, it'll be really good, trust me. I've been playing Skyrim

again recently for like the fifth time, and I'm playing this mod called Legacy of the Dragonborn, which makes you own a museum to which you have a fully custom voice acted curator who helps you find things or sometimes just curates random things for you. There is places to display up to like, I think it's 4,000 plus items. I mean, everything. Any thing that you get in the game, you can display in this thing. And it even goes as far as, if you complete a dungeon, or if you complete a full quest line, like I completed the College of Winterhold thing yesterday, it's a quick one, you get

this nice little scene, it updates your museum, there's quests in the museum. ALICE Oh wow. That sounds so good. KEIN It is insane. It's so good. ALICE insane. It is so good. That really satisfied that collector's vibe. Yeah, it's like Stardew Valley in Skyrim. But it's got all these little quests, and the museum slowly evolves as you're playing.

Like yesterday I built an explorer's guild hall, which attaches to the museum, and you can hire people to come in and go do excavations and there's all these unique items that they can find. It's mad. It's so much fun though. You imagine they add stuff like that to Starfield? I mean, they just released an update for Starfield where you can customize the insides of your ships and stuff. I'm telling you, the creation kit's gonna go nuts on this game. ALICE Starfield was trash. I had to stop playing, because I knew that it was gonna be... I did two quests in the main story. I played for like a hundred hours and I only did two quests in the main story. Oh, really?

Yeah. You are able to entertain yourself with some details of a game that I think, for most people, are added background. Whereas you're like, I'm gonna get every one of these bobbleheads, or whatever. I love that. Yeah, I do love that. It's remarkable. I played 60 hours of Starfield, and I did two of the main quests.

I did a lot of base building and shit like that. But again, with the creation kit and mods and stuff, it should... I mean, I could be wrong, but I feel like this'll be a great sandbox when there's more to do. You know? I mean, they can't just... they have to keep going. I think cyberpunk turned itself around a bit after Shake Your Release. Yeah, cyberpunk.

I still need to play that, actually. Shame. Yeah, I haven't done that either. I haven't played it. Last time I tried to stream it I got five FPS. Yeah, apparently all that's sorted out, and the DLC, what is it, Phantom Liberty or something? Phantom Liberty. Is meant to be really good.

I'd have to start again from all the way from the beginning. I feel completely blown out. KEVAN I like these big sandbox RPG games. I like the Bethesda games. I like how they're just these really, really large puddles, you know? They're not deep, but then with the mods and stuff, it just transforms the game. Like Fallout 4, for example, there's so many good mods for, I mean, they were all busted recently because of a kind of random out of the blue update for

Fallout 4. But like, same with Skyrim, man, there's so many good mods. Like, before I did this one, Legacy of the Dragonborn, I did this other one called Blackthorn, which is like, you build your own town. It's like in between, I think it's like Rorkested and Riften in what is normally just like a massive area of like forest. You build your own town and you attract people to the town to work at all the different places like the blacksmith and stuff and they all earn money for you. So you're out adventuring, you come back and you just collect, you're just like a tax collector, you get all this money, and there's a museum as well, you can display all your shit in it. It was so much fun. I played that too, but this one is even

better. You get this really swanky museum in Solitude. Highly recommend. That sounds amazing. That was an official DLC, like Hearthfire, wasn't it? What, the build your own house stuff. Yeah, yeah. So all the mechanics are kind of semi-orignal. Yeah, that's it. It's just extending them to be better. It's taking something that they added and being like, yep, do you know what, we gotta

make a mod to make this DLC better. You know, that's great. Yeah. Oh my god. Well, that's all we've got time for today. Thank you for listening, everyone. We'll see you all next time. Goodbye!

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