Triforce! - Triforce! #306: An Emergency Podcast

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Triforce! Episode 306! It's time to address the elephant in the room (Gregg Wallace). Meanwhile, Terry is almost ready for hibernation and Lewis has been playing some mega board games while we reminisce about Play-By-Mail! Go to http://auraframes.com/triforce to get up to $30 off Aura’s best-selling frames. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Greg Wallace, a semi-, enemy of the podcast. Turns out he's become public enemy number one. Well, who could have seen this? Yeah, I mean, I've told it. We were talking about him being a baddie weeks before this all broke. Yes, we had an email. I had an email saying, look, I'm not being funny, but Greg's a piece of shit. So every time you guys have a kind of jolly Greg Wallace story, it makes me feel

queasy. And I was like, gosh, maybe we should chill with no positive Greg Wallace news. Yeah. So we switched to negative. We went into negative mode with Greg Wallace and it's paid off big time. It has. Thank goodness we didn't. Now we're at the cutting edge. We're right at the zeitgeist of... Greg Coyne is at record high. Greg Coyne, Wallace Watts.

Fuck he. Fucking hell. Well, look, I don't think we really need to address it too much. He's a goofy goober who is now, it turns out, he's been like, have you been following it? New stuff is obviously happening every day. I've been following it because it seems to have been leading the news every fucking... I don't even watch the news anymore. My mates watch the news and they're like, why the fuck is Greg Wallace still the headline

story? I know. Every day. It's not like the Prime Minister was found for all this stuff. It's not like Keir Starmer is in hot water for inappropriate shit. It's a guy who basically was like a middle of the road BBC presenter, you know, get him gone by all means, you know, but is this the most important thing happening in the world right now?

I guess it's just the thing people are most interested in seeing. I think it's a nice tumble. It's a nice break from all the other fucking bullshit that's happening. And all the bullshit now it's like, wait, wait a minute. Greg Wallace is a cunt. Whoa. I've got some news for you guys on a more positive front. Can we guess? Yeah, yes. Your work is finished. No, it's not.

It's not. No, but I mean, it's not. It's not. No. But I mean, it's finished for this year now. We won't have nothing else until next year. Positive news. There's just a couple of little bits and pieces, but that's not the main news. Terry is hibernating. Oh my God, you guessed it in two. It's not, is it?

It is. Oh wow. Oh shit. He is about to hibernate. This is his last hurrah. He's in a little tiny box with some straw that he will, uh, that he will settle down in. I just got to cool him down today. I got to keep it. The garage is nice and cool. So it's just, it's like his, like, he's come from the house, which was pretty warm to the garage,

which is pretty cool. We're going to get his body temperature down to about 13 degrees and then into the fridge he goes until February. You put him in the fridge? Yeah, you gotta put him in a little, we got a little a little chiller fridge for him to go in. He has to have a consistent low temperature for hibernation. You put him in the fridge? Yeah, you can't have him in the main fridge. Not with the food and everything. No, no, no, no, it's like a little fridge in the garage. Yeah. It's like a little drinks fridge.

Is this a special fridge for tortoises? No, it's just a little drinks fridge. It's a little diet coke drinks fridge. You can put your diet cokes in there when he's not in there. Wow. Yeah. So I got to open the door for about a minute every day to let some fresh air in for him. Yeah.

It's going to maintain a very cool temperature between 2 and 9 degrees Celsius. So, when he's in there, Sips, does he move at all? Or is he literally just almost dead? He's almost dead. His heart rate is down really low. His breathing is really, really low. He just basically lives off of his fat stores and he goes into hibernation with like a full bladder. And then he draws from his full bladder just to keep him kind of on the brink of being alive sort of thing.

And he's out for about 16 weeks. And then when we wake him up, it's another bit of a week long sort of process of, you know, gently waking him up, exposing him to heat, giving him a bath, giving him warm baths, stimulating him. Yeah. And then he can start eating again. And then, um, and then he's good, but he hasn't eaten for like three weeks. Gosh. Yeah. Cause he's got to, he got to empty him out. He's got to be, he's got to have no poop in him. He's got to, he's got to maintain like some peep, but no poop. Uh, because otherwise he can get really sick while he's hibernating. Crazy that this is something that I know it's mad. Yeah.

Well we took him to the vet and the vet was like, yep, he's ready. He's a good size, good weight. He's healthy. Um, you know, you don't have to go the full 16 weeks if you don't want to. He's trying to get out of this little box now. I know how you have so much energy. You haven't eaten for like a month. He's about to go into a coma. Yeah, he's about to go into a coma.

But he's just like he's still scaling the walls. He's still trying to do the great escape. I love that vets have to know everything about animals, don't they? Like, imagine if you had to if there were like 50 different kinds of human being that had different organs and different lifestyles and different diets and all the rest of it, it would be almost impossible. Hats off to your vet being like, Oh, yeah, I know all about that. Yeah. Fuck how, dude? How?

I know there's there's certain things that they can definitely help with. Like if things go wrong. I mean, obviously, like with a lot of animals, if something goes like, uh, horribly wrong, you know, like they have like a, you know, defects or diseases, uh, you know, some, some diseases that are curable and manageable, but sometimes, you know, cause they're small, that's it. You know, they're not gonna, they're not gonna operate on them or anything. They usually just put them to sleep. I'm not, I'm not saying that that makes a vet's job easy. Hang on, sorry.

I just think... That's all right. Come on. I think it's actually, they're specialized to though, in a sense, like in the same way that the GP is not a consultant. You know, GP will be the first line of like detection and identifying problems and then often refer you to someone who's more of an expert. It's the same thing with vets.

There are like experts for specific animals. I think your general vet does tend to see the same animals because most people don't keep too much weird stuff as pets. If you have a weird pet, usually you have an exotic pet vet that you can go to who is more aware of birds or lizards or whatever. What have you been up to? Because this Jingle Jam is going on right now for me. I've been watching some Jingle Jam. I've had a very bad week actually. I don't know if you want me to talk about it on the podcast or not. You're grumpy. No, I had to go to hospital last week.

I had a panic attack last week. I've been having them for a few years and it was so bad. I thought I was going to die. And that's standard panic attack stuff. But this was different. This was like a whole new level. And I felt like I just felt absolutely dreadful. And I had this, you know, you know, that feeling you get when your adrenaline spikes. Yeah. And it almost comes from the center of your chest, this sort of weird, cold feeling. And it sort of permeates and your vision sort of becomes extremely acute. It was like waves of that over and over and over again. I get that every time I enter into a One View One in StarCraft II.

Of course. Yeah, it's like that. I've been around people who've had panic attacks and it's so strange because sometimes you have no idea what triggered it or sometimes you're like in your head, you're like, I don't know why this is happening. It's really odd. It's bad. But this was in the, I just woke up, it was like 6am and it woke me up. It was that bad. And I was just sort of having just terrible, what they call like intrusive thoughts, just horrible doom thoughts. And I just felt dreadful. So I went into the hospital and it was like a Monday morning or whatever. So it wasn't busy.

And I went in and I spoke to a doctor there and she said, right, how long have you been having panic attacks for? And I was like, oh, two or three years. She goes on, what do you take for them? I was like, what do you mean? She's like, who have you seen about it? I was like, well, no one. I mean, it's a panic attack. What's there to be done?

She's like, Lovie, what are you doing? You've like, who have you seen about it? I was like, well, no one. I mean, it's a panic attack. What's there to be done? She's like, lovey, what are you doing? You've got to see someone. You should see your GP. I was like, oh, it's just happened to occur to me to fucking see anyone about this. So I went to see my GP and he gave me something called sertraline, which is also called Zoloft. And it's like an antidepressant anti-panic medication. And I've been on that for a little over a week.

The first week absolutely sucked. This week is slightly better because it exacerbates it at first. I don't know why, but it sort of gets worse for a while before it gets better. But yeah, I'm going to be on those for a while and hopefully that'll help. I have no idea what's caused this other than being old and kind of a weird bad year in various ways. Maybe that's just it. Maybe that's all there is to it. It's weird because I feel like a lot of this stuff that you get built up in your brain is subconsciously troubling you. But you're not literally sitting there consciously thinking

about things all the time. It's just your subconscious is dealing with things. And eventually your brain is like, do you know what? You're not handling any of this stuff well. So I'm going to escalate the situation. That's how it feels. I think that is, yeah. I really do believe in it. It sounds wishy washy. It sounds like, oh, that's why. But I think that's why meditation often is very helpful, works for people. I'm not saying meditation is in, you know, sit down and say, ohm. Sometimes just like doing something boring, like walking to somewhere or driving somewhere and not kind of like having like just time where you're, it's weird to say, but bored,

where you're bored. Yeah. No, I think being bored and just switching your brain off and focusing on something monotonous is a good idea. I think sometimes that lets your brain work through all this subconscious shit. Yeah, just watch some of my Factorio streams. Those are really bad. What the hell were you playing the other day, Sips?

Which other day? Yesterday. You were playing something. Songs of Six yesterday. Yeah, which is like. It looks so bad. Oh, it's it looks terrible. It looks really good. The graphics, I will admit, are not great, but you do.

It's like Dwarf Fortress style graphics. It's like Dwarf Fortress. You. It's like Dwarf Fortress, Rimworld. I see. But it's like, the scale is enormous. It's crazy. You build like this big city, but then you've got this huge world map with like, you can conquer, you can trade, like there's factions, there's all these different races and stuff. You can get these massive cities.

You make like cities with like 10,000 people in them and stuff. It's crazy. there's all these different races and stuff. You can get these massive cities. You make cities like 10,000 people in them and stuff. It's crazy. It's cool. It's like lots of just, you know, this this typical kind of Rimworld stuff, you know, you have people gathering stuff and you build stuff and you you got to like plan out your cities so that they're efficient and then you got to sort of there's diplomacy with all the other factions. It's it's cool. It's I'm just getting into it, factions. It's, it's cool.

It's I'm just getting into it, but, uh, I've, I've really enjoyed it so far. It's nice. I could see you were very focused. Oh, you got it. It's a very complicated game. There's a lot of, a lot of stuff to, uh, to do and think about and whatever. It's like, um, all the races are different. So my, the race that I picked is like these pigmen who, um, are very good farmers but they're not very good at anything else. But you have to balance out, like you

have to feed them all the food that they like. You got to give them roads. Like there's all these things that will make them happy. And then the happier you're the, the race is the more people are likely to immigrate. We almost lost at one point because it just everybody was starving. They were starving and they wouldn't do anything. So we had to bring in some humans and elves and stuff, but now the colony is not pure. So yeah, we're gonna have to do some deportations.

You can do, there's all sorts of stuff. There's like a justice system. There's slave slavery. You can engage in the slave trade if you'd like to. It's mad. There's so much stuff you can do in it. It seems really fun. But I'm only at the tip of the iceberg right now. So just like a little farming hamlet with like 80 people. So do you think when people are climbing mountains out in snowy regions, they say things like this is just the tip of the iceberg as a joke? Probably. Oh, and they're like, oh, like groaning or some guys. You'd have to have some breakers.

Yeah, the icebreakers out on the. It's not mountains. Yeah, you do. You know, you you'd want to break the ice while you're out there socially with people. But by making a couple of jokes, yeah. And they'd say, well, that one got a bit of a frosty reception, stuff like that. Yeah, exactly. Push this man overboard immediately. Yeah.

Well, that's probably why they used to push people overboard every once in a while. Just got to be too much. You know, like I can, I can no longer take this. I can't accept this anymore. This behavior. I've been watching, uh, you know, you know, the way we've talked about portage in episodes of your long ago. I've been watching, you know, you know the way we've talked about portage in episodes of your long ago, I've been watching the outdoor boys YouTube channel.

You guys seen it? No. Yes. So I think you've talked about it. Yeah. So I'm, I have been fantasizing about going off into the wilds of Alaska and building a snow shelter and surviving down this, I've been down this route before I've been, I've been in this head space before.

Carry on. And I'm thinking that I would actually not want to do it. I've decided. I've watched enough of these videos. Okay, but would you be up for being a consultant on a video game about that? Yeah, of course. Okay, great, sure.

We're gonna make a complete flop together. We've been talking about Dude Sim Alaska for seven years. Exactly. And now we got the financial powerhouse behind us. Lewis is agreed to bankroll. Yeah. So we're getting given the green light. Okay.

Dude Sim Alaska. So let me tell you what I've been playing and see what you think. So okay. I play a lot of games on tabletop arena, board game arena, sorry. It's like a PGA. It's a website which basically can license board games and digitize them. And some of them are really, really good. And there's some very good games on there like Arc Nova and Wingspan and stuff like this, right? Terraforming Mars. And I've been playing games on there. I started doing it on COVID and I've sort of stayed up to date a bit on it lately.

And one thing I've noticed is that they've, a lot of the games now have moved to this async format. Okay. So every once, so these are sort of the games where you take about between one move a day and four moves a day. And it's a bit like play by mail or something. It's very, very slow. And so what you have is you have, and I'm sure it's the same.

It's been the same for a lot of people because I've seen apps where people are playing Scrabble games or something like this game and they're playing them. You end up having 20 games on the go. Yeah. On the go and you come in and you look at the state of it and you play around of that. And then you go to the next table, a little bit like you're one of these chess prodigies who is stood there in a room with 20 different chess tables and you make your way around. Hmm, I'll move this on this way. And then you move to the next

table and you do the next, you know, next high school kid, you move against them. Right. And as a result of this, I got onto, um, you drive a Twilight Imperium. It's, it's the biggest, I was going to say TI, but that would have confused you, P-Flex, because of the international. Twilight Perium is Fantasy Flight Games' flagship board. It's basically the most epic space. It's like Stellaris, the board game. It takes eight hours to play on a good day, do you know what I mean?

And it's a tedious nightmare of a game to play actually. And it's a free for all as well. So it's kind of a six player free for all, and it's pretty brutal too, right? You can knock someone out fairly early if you wanted to pick them over. There's a lot of wheeler dealing, there's a lot of teaming up as well. It's very political and it's very kind of... And this sounds a lot like the time we combined four boards of Star Wars Monopoly together and did like one mega game. Oh, shit. See, that sounds fun and stupid, whereas this is kind of slow and tedious.

And actually, so there's a... And it's kind of impressive, honestly. I don't know whether even to talk about it, but partly for two reasons. One, because it's clearly in the gray area of not being allowed. And two, because it's kind of bad. But the async TI has built on disc, it's all through Discord, right? So the whole thing works on Discord. You get your turn gets pinged to your Discord.

You get sent the maps on Discord. This sounds like a, like a BBS game from like, you know, the late eighties or whatever. God, it really feels like that. Legend of the red dragon or something like that. Did you guys, did you guys, did you, sorry, no, go on Lewis. Cause I don't want to, you can't, you can't, you pop in cause I'll catch up. Okay.

I was going to say I used to play play by mail games where you had to put a money order in with your turn to pay for your turn. It was like a pound. Yes. And you'd send in your instructions, like move west and then you'd get your response. It would tell you what was at that location. And so this was how shit things were before the internet really. When if you wanted to play a game and you know, you had to fucking post your turn and you'd have to know, you had to fucking post your turn and you'd have to wait days for the reply to come back.

And it would say like, there is nothing here. Where do you want to go to go west again? That's another pound. It was ridiculous. It was sending you a reply letter over the Christmas period. It got somewhat delayed. We just wanted to say that your move was invalid. You have to redo it.

Exactly. It's like, what in the world is happening? I did this as well. And you know, but back then I didn't have very much pocket money. So I think I was sending away like a fiver in mine and, or even more sometimes. And it, and it would be, you know, you'd be very excited to get the mail back. But as you said, P-Flex, not, it was surprising how disappointing stuff had happened because you couldn't really send very detailed instructions. They'd obviously built this big world and were kind of having different groups of adventures go around it together and ideally bump into each other or whatever. But it was all... I've recently

looked... Because we're doing, today actually we're doing the jingle joust as part of jingle jam. And it's, it's a game called full tilt. Uh, and Alex brought in a copy of the old white dwarf from when it was in white dwarf magazine. And it's from like 1995, 1996 or something. And it's so old. It's full of these adverts from weird stuff that was going on then. And it's kind of just the dawn of the age of the internet, but still they've got these legacy things hanging around. They've been going for 10 or 15 years, you know, before they've just gone bang. I mean, and there would have been guys that are our age now. There would have been like

internet, no load of rubbish. I'm going to stick to my play by mail games. Some of those games are still going. Well, I would love to know what they are. If you've got any good play by mail. Cause I kind of want to do one just to see if it's see, just see what it's like, you know, go to the post box, send my orders out and you know, get a little letter in the mail that says, you know, your dwarves have died or whatever. So they all fuck. I love the idea of that. So I'm playing this fucking async to four and it's in it's on the one hand, it's brilliant what they've achieved. And on the other hand, it's awful. And I think part of the issue is that, you know, how

the game isn't designed for a sink and a lot of the games on board game arena aren't designed for a sink either. And as a result, they have like, for example, at the end of every round, there's a game I play on there called Arc Nova and another one called Feast of Odin. And at the end of every round, you have to press okay about three times, you know, to confirm all these actions, right? But the way it works is I have to click and then the next person has to click and then the next person has to click. Then I have to click again. The next person has to click. And sometimes it's 24 hours between those clicks and it's a load of needless clicks.

Right. So sometimes you're like, oh, is it my turn? Oh, I've just got to press click. Okay. Just do I mean, cause it's not, and it's like, why have you notified me? Why? That's not, that's not, and I guess like it doesn't matter because you've got 20 games on, just move on. But I just feel like they aren't optimized. And the same thing with TIT. This game where there's so much complexity, so many complicated elements, so many things like anything you do, the other players can respond to. So you'd like like in magic, the gathering, for example, if you're in a professional tournament, any card you play can theoretically be counted by the enemy. So, you know, unless they're playing a deck that run that hat clearly, if they're playing mono red, they're not going to have any counter spells. But,

you know, you almost, most of the time when you're playing magic, you constantly have to be like, do you want to counter this now? Do you want to do this now? And so it's the same thing in, in this thing, like you're taking your turn and you take like two actions, but the first action, someone could theoretically have this rare card that they could respond to you with. So you then have to wait like hours for them to have that window to play that. And then you can carry on with your turn. Then you play another thing. And then again, there could be another. So does you do one action. It'll trigger three different cards. This doesn't sound fun.

Oh, well, it's like, I get, I get it. Like it's on purpose to realistically and like, like take the game and put it into this format. And I think maybe they're scared of tweaking it or changing it or modifying it from the original, making it work better in this format. Some things they have started to change, but I just, because again, it's in this gray area of not being allowed. And so then improving it or building upon it sounds like it could be even worse. I think it also, the other thing is that certain people are very rule sticklers. They can't stand the idea that anyone would suggest a mod. You get this

with other games too, right? That some people are such... They really believe that the game developers are God in heaven and that they know exactly what they've done. And every single choice that those developers made was cleverly, carefully curated. Like, this earth is perfect for us, you know. The earth was made for us. And so they see it as heresy and they fight so hard against any kind of simplification or convenience. And it's just kind of led to me having a very disappointing experience. A frustrating experience with it. I just thought I'd shout out because it's so weird and something I've not played before.

And I think I'm seeing a rise in it. I'm seeing a rise in games like this. Well, I'm just saying, looking up played by male games, there is one called Heroic Fantasy, which has been running since 1982. And is still running. A guy called Rick Loomis, who was, he came up with a game called Tunnels and Trolls, which I think was one of the origins for Dungeons and Dragons. I think it was written by Ken St. Andre to be a more accessible alternative to Dungeons and Dragons, which I suppose was quite arcane back in the day. And we used to have things like FACO and stuff like that rather than just the more streamlined version now. But these games, a lot of them, these guys were in the 70s that were inventing

games that, again, this was before computer games and the internet were any good. So this was what they did. I remember fantasizing about this kind of stuff for ages. Imagine if, you know, like World of Warcraft, the reason it blew me away so much is it was exactly what I'd wanted my whole life. And now you don't play it at all. No. Why would you not? Why don't you want to get into WoW Classic? Pandaria is coming up.

So the issue I have with with WoW is that it was it was really fun to play at the time. And I think my memories of it are mainly solitary memories. I don't have memories of being in a cool guild and having fun with a group of like-minded people. I just remember playing on my own because I didn't get into the year-old goon squad until very late in the day. I mean, I was in a big guild and I don't have memories of playing in a fun guild with like-minded people either. Yeah, it was just swats. Right, but that was at least funny.

The guys I was in a Guild with were not fun. They were like really miserable Scandi lads who took the game very seriously. A couple of them were right. Sounds like yogs. But they were just very, very dull people. They weren't like bad people, but they were just like not much fun. And I just, you know, when I first got into WoW, I was on the there's something awful forums a bit, but it wasn't like a big thing for me.

It became a big thing for me. But eventually, you know, early on, I was just kind of not really playing games with Goons. I play occasional games with Goons, like, I think the very early versions of Mount and Blade. There were multiplayer servers for that where we play. And when I got into Eve Online, obviously, that wasVE Online, obviously that was big on something awful and all the rest of it. But I missed out on playing on the Yogs server with you guys, probably by a whisker, because I did end up when I got bored on my server, I joined that server.

Was it Diamore? Was the server you guys were on? I can't remember actually. No, we were on Ventureco. Yeah. Sporogar. Sporogar. I was on the wrong server. But I was in Yogs briefly, made a new character and all of you guys were all so high level that I was just like, is there anyone want to run this instance?

And nobody would answer because they were all off doing level 60 shit. And I was like, all right, well, I guess I'm done with well. And just back to it. I think it's all the... I think that's exactly what it's like. It's a very, very familiar experience. Yeah. I think there is a level of loneliness.

And I think that same idea that you're proposing there is how a lot of people feel about board games, right? It's tough. Like sometimes you want to play this board game and there isn't any... It's hard to get all your friends around to do it in real life or to get eight hours to play a game of TI. I've been in this game of TI for, I think, about two and a half, maybe three weeks. And we've done two turns. Two turns of the game.

And it's like, it's like 10 turns to get through, I think. So it's crazy like how slow it is. And but I do still feel like I've done it in 10 minute and 15 minute chunks. It's still going to take the same amount of time out of my day, except I'm thinking about it and it's in the back of my mind all day. And it's bothering me. I have felt, like we talked about meditation and that low level subconscious anxiety, I have carried with me that because in a sense, right, I've, it's the first, I don't have notifications on my phone and God help you if you do, like any

kind of any kind. I hate being pinged or bonged or notified about anything. I have, I have, I have, um, well I have what I have silent WhatsApp messages on. I mean, my phone is always on silent and some groups I have muted as well. Yeah. But WhatsApp is the only thing I have on my lockscreen. I have, my phone is on do not disturb 24 seven, but I added three phone numbers that can punch through that. Both of my kids and Mrs. F. If they call the phone rings, but no one else, I think that's

fair enough, right? Isn't that what most people do? That's absolutely right. But I've, I know a bunch of people who do have their phone constantly dinging. And I'm like, why do you do that anyway? I've turned on like, not notifications, but sort of lock screen notifications for a couple of these async games. Because I don't want to be the guy who's like holding everyone up or whatever. Not that, but I'm going to probably turn it off again. In fact, I'm not going to play these games. I think once I'm done with the ones I'm playing, I'm not going to play ever again.

But I just find it like that low level of stress. Like I'd rather play a board game and have it done than be... I think you have to treat it differently. I think if you're playing 50 board games at a time, you're treating it as a different game. It's a game with 50 games in it. You look at for half an hour a day. I think that's the idea. And that's it. Instead of playing one game, you're like juggling 50 in your mind and that's a different game, right?

Honestly, I don't love, I don't love the idea that, so it feels a lot of the time like I'm either, A, maybe I'm just getting old and I'm forgetful. Like I go back to this game I'm looking at and I'm like, Oh fuck, I can't remember what I was doing with this game at all. And yes, you can make yourself notes, I guess, or whatever, but like, fuck, fuck that. Um, I'm not going to start keeping like this detailed notebook of like my turn so I can, do you know what I mean? I don't want to have to rethink the same game situation every fucking time. I keep coming back to these things. It's, I dunno, like it's frustrating. I don't love it. But the whole, I can see, again, there's the same thing with Warhammer and a lot of these other hobbies where maybe you don't live in an area where you

can have a friend and have a game with that friend. And WoW as well, I think it's a game that's popular and people hear about it and they're like, oh, this is a good game. I'm supposed to play it, but they don't realize that you're supposed to make friends in it. You're supposed to try and play it, but they don't realize that you're supposed to make friends in it. You're supposed to try and like engage people. It's kind of another level, right? It's, it's in the same way that, um, T like a T, the Twilight Imperium is a political game where you have to argue with people and try and convince, like almost try and like deceive your friend into backstabbing the other guy. You know, it's almost like playing blood on the clock tower or something, you know, where you're actively saying,

I'm not the demon, you know, kill this guy, kill this guy. Like, it's a different kind of game. And I think sometimes games are not sold to you as that when you get them. I think a lot of people when they buy a video game, they do still expect a single player experience or an experience where you're kind of a low, you're not forced to be social

in order to get the most out of it. Right? Have you played Blood on the Clocktower yet, Sips? No, I've never played that. It's really fun actually. It was, it was difficult. And I watched, we put out the, I think it was the members vid was the one that I was in the other day, or maybe the other week, was with, I think it was me, Ben Duncan-O's, let me think who else was in it. Niles E, Zoe. You in the Christmas one? Yeah, the Christmas one.

So that was members, it will be main channel by the time this podcast gets out. Okay. I found it quite, and I did another session with you guys a couple of weeks ago as well. I found it, initially, it was so different from Mafia, because you have to change your logic up a lot because there's so many roles which is good because it's way more information and fun and challenge but it's also quite easy to catch people in a lie or sort of logic your way through what the situation... You're like, oh well if he says he's this but then we had this, this and this, they must be wrong. It's way more interesting. Mafia you just have to go or feel a lot of of the time. And I think Blunt O'Clock Terror has done a really good job of making it

genuinely a really fun and interesting game. And the fact that when you're out, you walk around as a ghost really does make it a far more interesting game to play than your dead night one sit around for an hour and a half, which fucking sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Mafia is great. It was a classic game. I mean, you used to play it at TI, I remember. At these Dota events, didn't you, P-Flex, with a big room of people? Yeah, it was awful. And Mafia is dated and bad because when you get killed, you're kind of out. And also, a lot of the time, there's not really any info to go on. It's entirely sort of social, right? Werewolf was the next iteration of that. And it's still popular. And in fact, a couple of my friends who aren't really gamers ended up playing a game of it

the other day. And I was quite surprised because I said to them, oh, you know, you played Werewolf and they said to me, have you ever played it? And I was like, yeah. And I know it quite well because Blood in the Clock Tower is this, the next iteration of it. And it's huge now. It was really popular at the board game expo that we went to and it is Mafia. You're sat around.

But I think it's fixed a lot of the problems with Werewolf and Mafia. It tries to be more inclusive. The dead players are still involved. In fact, sometimes it's in your advantage to be dead. It's not so bad when you die And I don't know, the roles are fun. Some of them are quite interesting. There's a few things that we've added. One of the mechanics is madness, which is a fun idea. And basically the way that works, you actually had this role, P-flagged. You have to make someone mad, which means you make someone pretend.

So I have to go... So, if Perian wants me to pretend that I am a different role or that I am, I think he's evil. You know? And so then I have to act. I have to actually almost like, I act like I've gone mad but, or convince the town. It's quite clever. Yeah. The way it sort of makes you play around with the, with the lying. It's very cool. Because there's so many reasons to lie. A lot of these roles

don't want to die, but some of them kind of do want to die. So sometimes you're kind of saying to everyone, oh, I'm a really important role, hoping that you'll be stabbed. Yeah, yeah. Which is honestly, I don't know, it's good. So no, but under the clock tower, we've, we've been enjoying it. I'm just reading this thing about, um, Empyrean challenge. I think I found the original TI guys in 1976, there was this game, sorry, 1978, there was this game called Empyrean challenge. Okay. So sci-fi, it's like, you know, this is, so sometimes it was called the most complex game system on earth back in the day. And some North Africa,

some turn results were a thousand pages in length. You'd be sent like a ream of paper. Look at this, look at this picture of this turn results for Imperial, one turn of Imperial challenge. You know, if you're sending a pound to them, that's not covering their paper costs. Good value for money. You get one pound, you get like 800 pages of something. That's incredible.

Of like, of turn results to like sift through. Holy shit. That's great. Fuck. Excellent sleeping aid. You can't find a sleeping aid on the market for that cheap. One pound. Let's be honest. what most people really want

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I used to collect old board games. The game is called Freedom in the Galaxy, The Star Rebellion's 5764 AD. Oh, oh my gosh. I have a copy of this from 1979. It's dreadful. It's incredibly complicated. And it's basically it's simulating Star Wars where you have fleet battles and all the rest of it, but also heroes that go and do hero shit. Oh my god, I'm looking at it. It's hilarious. Absolutely arcane. I bought it for like three quid in a charity shop. Cause I was

like, I've got to see this. It is almost unplayable. The rules are so complicated. It's all little cardboard chips that are like, gonna move around. If you breathe on this board, it's gonna kill it. It's so complicated. Here's the fucking blurb for it. Freedom in the Galaxy, the Star Rebellion's 5764 AD is a medium complexity tactical war game. Medium? What's that? A fucking complex one. That's just what I'm in the market for. I just go, hello, I'm looking for a medium complexity pirate-themed war game, please. Do you have anything that fits that description? I mean here's an example of a rule.

This is, because these things always had a denda. Like there would always be an addenda saying, okay, rule 9.4, yes, like additional rules that they've patched the game. So rules 9.45. Addition. When a friendly detected spaceship leaves a planet on which the enemy player is ineligible to conduct the detection routine, the spaceship is no longer detected. And of course, 15.3, a stop rebellion mission may also be performed on a planet under rebel control. 20.7. Correction. The second paragraph should start if the non-phasing

player has a level one or two up PDB on the planet. He may make a one-column shift adjustment to the left on the detection table. The player would refer to the column two to the left of the normal column. Paragraphs three and four should read, however, all DD and E results are treated as D. Again, all DD and E results are treated as D. Can you imagine playing that game? What the fuck? Dude, look at that. I can't imagine myself playing that game. This is what games were.

Nowadays, all of this shit is hidden behind the game engine. Like when you play Hearts of Iron, which I've been playing a lot lately, that kind of shit is happening. Isn't there a new DLC that just came out for it? That's why I've been playing it, yeah. Got to damn it. There's a new Stellaris one as well. Have you played that recently? I have not because I find when I get into Stellaris, I want to do nothing but play Stellaris for two weeks.

That's not a bad thing though. Yeah, but I'm coming down to Bristol, aren't I? So I don't want to awaken the Kraken that is my Stellaris. I was just in Bristol, actually, and I've been sick. I've Kraken that is my stellar identity. I was just in Bristol actually. I know you were, how was it? I've been sick ever since I got back. I've had a cold, I had like an explosive toilet session while I was in Bristol still, and I had another one when I got back as well.

I've just been fucked up, man. Like, so, like such a mess. Saw them, yeah. It was that concert we went to. The Ghostface Killer concert made me, gave me the poops big time. I mean, I'm not being funny, but you live in a different country. You've come to Britain. I know.

You have. Yeah. And I've been there. It's like the equivalent of us going to India. The big time lurgy. Yeah. You fucking got the shit. Yeah, it was a fun trip actually. It was nice. It was good to catch up with everybody.

So we went to, we went to Ghostface Killer. Let me just say, um, what I, my take on it. So obviously I'm not necessarily the biggest Wu-Tang fan, but I'm a Sips fan and I like, I like hanging out with Sips and enjoying the things. It's kind of like a little bit like getting to see your kid doing something they really like, you know, even though you're not that into it. Yeah. So we go to this place and it's the place we went to last time was nicer. This is kind

of like a shaky warehouse. And as we approached it, it was the gutters were shaking off, the iron roof and gutter was like shaking off. Like honestly, it was like the building was like buzzing, like all the metal trimmings, all the screws are like shaking out of the guttering around this fucking cheap warehouse. And we get, get around to the front and obviously it's freezing fucking cold day and there's this poor security guard patting people down. Like it's like a world some American, you know, gangsters bringing in guns. Well, you don't want to take the chance. He's like, what's this? And it's like, that's my keys, you know, gangsters bringing in guns. Well, you don't want to take the chance.

He's like, what's this? And it's like, that's my keys, you know, and it's like my phone. It's like, what do you think? What's that? What's this? That's my magnum, bitch. Get your hands off it. That's my, it's my pistachio. Don't touch it. And so we went in and I think the doors opened at what, like six 30 and, um, this, this place PFLAX doesn't have, it's like a warehouse. Okay. Imagine a warehouse, but it's a single room, single room warehouse and there's a bar at

one end and then just open doors and the open doors go to a series of portaloos at one end. Okay. That's it. You know what I mean? It's not even got a room in the warehouse for toilets kind of thing. It's just a bunch of Porsche Johns. And so we get, I think, doors open at 6.30. We got there like, I want to say 8.30. Yeah, it was pretty late.

And then Ghostface wasn't on until... 9.30. I want to say 10. 9.30. Coming up to 10. He was on at like 10.30. No, well it ended promptly at 10.30. And he was like, I think he was a bit taken aback because I think he thought I'll just be fashionably late. And then he ended up doing like, uh, like basically a 45 minute set and half of it,

he was just listening to old music. It was like a Trump rally. It was just, he was just like, let's listen to some old music. No, I'm just joking. He was, he was good. Like by far the best act of the night, obviously. Which is better. And not that I, I, I don't mind being pleasantly surprised by a, a, a, a support act.

Not that the support acts were bad, but I think like, you can tell that he's, he's got his, he's honed his shit so he knows what he's doing. And yeah, it's very, it was very similar to last time we did this and we did this five years ago. Um, I just, I just sort of felt like a bit of, get a bit of deja vu watching, um, you know, watching Ghostface, watching Sips kind of, um, Sips bought some merch. Yeah, I bought some little wands, Wu Tang wands for my kids. Three Ghostface Wu Tang wands for your kids.

Yeah, you know, like those glow wands that you get, uh, you get, they're like little, um, you have fairy wands or sometimes they have like, yeah, it was like that, but it's Wu Tang on them. I see. Do your children want Wu Tang wands? And I've asked you this at the time and you said, sure. I figured there might be a chance that they would get a kick out of them. And when I got home, they were like, oh, they just did not care at all. So I guess that's three Wu-Tang ones for Papa, I guess. I'll keep it. Maybe I'll do a giveaway.

Maybe they'll be worth something one day. Light up. I guess it's the equivalent of having your phone in the air. Except I guess that's, it's not that. Maybe your phone will be stolen if you did that. Not that the crowd was particularly rough. No, but it was fine. It was busy. This show was a lot busier than the one that we went to five years ago. This is way busier. Yeah, it was. It was okay.

It was good. Yeah, it was a fun night. I loved it. But I enjoyed hanging out with Sips and Ravs. Yeah, Daph came along as well. Daph loved it, man. He was living his best life. You should have seen him. Oh, Daph went from... So I forgot that I was actually supposed to be at a charity event that day, but Daph went

to it anyway. And Daph went to charity event in a nice suit, went straight to the Wu Tang gig. So changed in one of the Portalo um, went straight to the Wu Tang gig. So changed like in one of the Portaloos, I fucking guess. Uh, and then it got, got to the Wu Tang gig late and then just, just in time to see Ghostface though. Fucking conveniently. Turned up saw Ghostface left as soon as Ghostface left and he went to fucking motion to go clubbing. Yeah. He went to a rave after. That's how to really do it. He was meant to be having a mental health weekend. Uh, and the way he pitched this was I need to go home and play Dota for my mental

health weekend. And we all said, that sounds crazy. That's not how you should spend a mental health weekend. Come out instead. He's like, no, no, I can't go out. I meant to be like resting or whatever. And then we said, well, fine, but you're going to miss it. And he's like, yeah, you know what? I will go. And then I think he just decided, well, since I'm out, I might as well go out, out, out, out. And then went to a rave after as well. Hell yeah. I didn't realize it was your fault Sips that he didn't have his mental health.

Yeah. He was meant to have a mental health weekend. Dav playing Dota is actually probably quite bad for his mental health. That's why, that's what we were saying. Well, that's what we were saying. Yeah. I kind of got him back into it. That's my fault. Well, it's cause of the, so you did a, uh, the goon international, right? The goon international. That's right. Yeah. So staff told me that he, he, he was, he, he was talking about nonstop, honestly, for all

we have flex because, and this is, I don't know, you can tell me the details, but he, from what I heard, he was on like an 18 game unbroken winning streak. His team were like crushing the international. They were in the grand finals. They were like favorites to win. And he was like the pressures getting to him. The way he described it, it sounded like Eminem's rap battle when he was puking, just before he went on sort of thing. He was so nervous because he knew you were going to be watching and casting and it just completely threw him. He was so nervous because he knew you were going to be watching and casting and it just completely threw him. He just couldn't do it.

I, we, the grand final was actually a complete wash. They lost both games really badly. It was, they lost against the team. They previously beat it as well, which is a classic Dota story. But essentially, yeah, they got, they got found. And it was it was really it was a really fun tournament. And it was like, you know, fully community organized. I literally did nothing other than cast some of the games. And it was like, it's great to have a community that does that stuff. So I really, really love that they just sort of put it all together. And one of my mods Gido, they did all of the hard work and the players were fantastic. We had tons of teams.

Teams were like making little banners and some of them made team intro videos. And we raised money for charity and we rounded it off with this cardboard cosplay contest to open the grand final where people were meant to make cosplay just with cardboard that they had around the house and try and make a cosplay with cardboard. It was brilliant. They did. They did a fantastic job. So yeah, it was, it was really, really fun. The vault is on there. There's an archive channel for my stream. You can find it on there. Who won the cosplay contest. That's more important than the, uh, I think people remember that

I guess more than the fucking winner of the actual. Krusty Jim, I think won it. I think. I can't remember. But yeah, it was, uh, he did a warlock cosplay that also had his dog dressed up as the Golem. Easy, easy. Just get a cute pet in there and you can win anything with the help of the cute Westie was all dressed up and yeah, he looked fantastic. Nice. Is he going to, will we hibernate it or the Westie? Yeah. I don't think

I don't know if dogs can hibernate. We could try. I'll put Maggie in the freezer. Yeah. Let's see who hibernates the best. I'll put Terry's going to go into his fridge like momentarily and then you put your dog in the fridge as well. We'll see what happens in April. Yes. Yeah. Okay. We'll see who has a puddle of goo at the bottom of their fridge. Who doesn't when it's all done? So I saw some news this week before we do lose news. I saw some news that they're making a new Lord of the Rings movie. Yeah. But it's focusing on the life of Gollum. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like the origin story, because there's one of the books sort of touches upon his his past, you know, before he comes into contact with the ring. Yeah, he's like Riverfolk or whatever. Yeah, he's just like a normal person, but with like maybe some gambling or addiction tendencies. So, when he sees this ring, he brings out the worst of him. Now, I'm going to be honest with you, of all the characters in Lord of the Rings, the least

interesting by far to me is Gollum. I do not really want to see a movie about Gollum any more than I wanted to see a video game about Gollum, but that's what we got. Do you want to see a movie about Dobby? No! I don't want to see a movie about Dobby either. Dobby. Dobby the movie.

It's just, just- Coming soon. Please stop picking these dogshit characters to make games and movies about. Just do a cool Aragorn one, or a fucking Gimli's Life History something, but not fucking Gollum. Please. Or just don't do any more movies. It's fine. Yeah, we had you adapted the books and they were great.

And then The Hobbit, I heard, was not so great. It was terrible. Too many movies for the book that it was. Yeah, just stop now. You don't need to do it anymore. Like the people will remember the Lord of the Rings trilogy fondly forever. And the movies were good. Let's leave it. Let's leave it and move on. Let's make up. Let's make some new holiday movies. When was the last time a fun Christmas movie came out around Christmas? I tell you what we did like 2007. What we need is a we need is some Lord of the Rings play by mail play by post.

Lord of the Rings is done man. It's done. Okay. We don't need any more Lord of the Rings anything. It's over. Did they not learn from Gollum? Did they not learn from Gollum the video game? Did they not learn? Yeah. Or from all the fucking Star Wars shit that still makes Star Wars done?

Marvel stuff is pretty done. We don't need any more. I'll watch the Fantastic Four, but that's it. Maybe I'll watch the Doctor Strangers as long as Sam Raimi's still doing it, but I'm done. I'm done. I'm tapped down. Let's have something new. Let's think of something new that we can have.

Well, dude, it's video games. Just the same old fucking rehashed shit all the time. Dude, it's video games. It's like I said a couple of years ago. The Super Mario Brothers movie did well. Now it's gonna be video game movies forever and there are like 50 in production. The Minecraft movie movies coming out. Yeah.

But the thing is, they don't realise that the fanbase for video games is far more rabid and far angrier than the fucking fanbase for Iron Man. So you're introducing shit that people actually know. Like Iron Man's been around for fucking three times as long as the average age of the audience for the Iron Man movies. And no one gives a shit if you say we're going to do this much. Let's think about Iron Man though. Iron Man is a two hour movie commitment, right? Whereas people spend a thousand hours in a video game. Right, but what I'm saying is it was an adaptation of a comic. So no one was super precious about

the depiction of Iron Man other than he should be in a big iron suit and do cool shit. And Spider-Man, there were a bunch of different versions of Spider-Man and they were all quite of Iron Man other than he should be in a big iron suit and do cool shit. Sure. And Spider-Man, there were a bunch of different versions of Spider-Man and they were all quite enjoyable. I think the Miles Morales version is the best version, but I'm not going to get super pissy as long as Spider-Man is still Spider-Man. But if you're going to make a Minecraft movie, you better fucking get it right. Because if it's dog shit, the audience is going to turn on you much quicker than the

audience for Spider-Man would. Much quicker. On the topic of Spider-Man, it was my son's 13th birthday three days ago. He's 13 years old. He got Spider-Man 2 for the PlayStation. It looks nuts. It looks crazy. It looks so good.

Yeah. I was watching him play it the other day and it just looks incredible. The way that you swing around the city and stuff is amazing. Oh, it's beautiful. Yeah. Well, these AAA video games are the... it's weird that we don't almost know about them, right? Yeah, we don't play those kind of games.

No, not really. We're not really console gamers, but these are like, kind of, they're huge tiles. And they're made by huge companies. I just like playing very brown pixely games that look entirely uninteresting. I play Grand Strategy games and Thota. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Oh my God.

Well, I try to play as much as I can, but... We played that Lord of the Rings board game, Lewis, when I was over and that was fun. Was it good? Yeah, we played the Lord of the Rings duel. It's like Seven Wonders Duel. Oh, it was great. I enjoyed it a lot. It was good.

Well, it's basically a reskin of an actually good board game. Yeah. But it had, it had like, you know, these like things where you, if you were the, the hobbits, you, there's like this like, like the Nazguls have to like catch up with you and you have to keep your disc. There's like all these different ways to win. And so that's cool. It's really fun. Yeah, it's cool. Sips beat me twice and I was like, no, no, you beat me the first time and then I won the second time. Oh, yeah. I thought you beat me twice. No, we're tied. Um, that's how I remembered it. I was just salty. Uh, it's good. God, listen to this. Okay. When they've designed this play by mail game in the first

version, we do lose news. We're still talking about there's no news news. There's no news news. It's Christmas. There's like a busy I've got no time. I've got, I've got to go in like five minutes because I've got a stream on streaming for nine hours today. Good. And in fact, more than that, it's going to be meant. That's about time. You slacker. Come on. What are you been doing all this time? You should be fine. Actually I do. Nine hours a day, all day, change my mind. All right. Do it a day, all day, every day. Do what? I've changed my mind. All right, do it.

News news. First piece of news. Elon Musk says you might be buying Hasbro. Yeah, disaster. In order to make an AI game studio. Yeah. It's like, this is full villain arc. Yeah.

He's going to buy Dungeons and Dragons. Honestly, Dungeons and Dragons is like basically the biggest chunk of Hasbro they have. I mean, it's kind of insane. It's a little bit like Wizards of the Coast being owned by Mattel or whatever. That's what it's owned by. Weird. Okay. Turns out people spend more time now watching games than playing them.

People typically play video games on average for seven hours a week, however people watch playing video games for eight hours a week. ALICE Geez. Not me. I'm still playing them all the time. JUSTIN Yeah, brother. ALICE There is a... Moodang now has a song, an official song called Moodang Moodang. It's 50 seconds long, because I guess that's how things are now. Because anything, a song longer than 50 seconds would be really boring. And the lyrics go, Mood moodang, moodang, boing, boing, boing, mommy, mommy, play with me. Right.

Moodang sure ain't going to be cute when he's a grownup. I'll tell you that much. No, I was fucking munching down on some zookeepers. Yeah. They are vicious beasts. They grow up fast as well. The song is available in Thai, English, Chinese and Japanese versions. Wonderful.

Get that now. Scientists in Antarctica have developed their own accent. If you and 25 of your homies are holed up together for months on end, you may also develop your own accents. So yeah, apparently people living in Antarctica are, are spending time with each other, are developing their own vernacular and accent. Does it involve chattering teeth and a lot of rubbing your hands together and stamping your feet? Yes, that's really good. Yeah.

I like that. Um, and what else is there on this? The last one is that have you seen the orcas have been wearing dead? Dead salmon as hats? Yes. No. What is the deal with that? They're just having the time of their lives. Are they going to the races? Yeah, no, they're just fucking, they're like that. They're smart and they're mischievous and they're bored. I mean, if you're smart and you just swimming in the ocean all the time, when you're not eating stuff, you're like, what the fuck are we going to let's just fucking talk about. And they apparently different like, I don't know what you call it, a pilot of orcas. I can't remember what the term for a collective of orcas is called.

I think it might be a pod. Sorry, a pod. I'm pretty sure that each of the different sort of family groups has different behaviors. And sometimes what like they'll meet up with other pods and swim around each other and like exchange ideas and shit. I don't know how. Like guys, we're all wearing salmons as hats this season. You should do the same.

And then when they meet up again, they've all got the salmon hats and they're like, oh no, sorry, we stopped doing that last year. That's kind of passe now, the salmon hats. We now wear lobsters as cod pieces, not cod as cod pieces. That would be too on the nose. And then they split up and go their separate ways again. It's like me and girls, but with orcas. Well, maybe lobsters would be quite good as like clothing, because they could pinch, they

could hold on. Yeah, they hold on. I mean, barnacles would be the best, but I'll take a lobster. I think there's lots of people are trying to sort of say, they don't know. People don't know exactly why, but there's a lot of theories one. It might be that They're just messing around it might one. It might be that they're like taking it with them When if they know as like, um, they're like bringing a snack with them like a pack lunch I mean just you know for fun. I think they're just mucking about they're just silly. That's that's what it feels like to me as well Well, I'm going out that's all we got time. I'm going to see I'm gonna see suit Stuart Lee Oh, that's great. He's really funny. I know I've going to see you. I'm going to see Stuart. Oh, that's really funny.

I know. I've seen him multiple times. I see him at Leicester Square Theatre every year. It's like a little tradition. Hopefully it's better than that other one that you went to. The Alan Partridge Doctor Strange Doctor Strange. Yeah, it's going to be definitely going to be better than that. I mean, if I get lost in the theater is closed, it's going to be better than Dr. Strangelove. That's how bad this is.

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