Triforce! - Triforce #312: Gamer Rage (the Musical)

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Triforce! Episode 312! Young Terry the Tortoise returns to us from his long hibernation, Pyrion drops another incredible new song featuring some classic Sips rage and we try to find some modern day luxuries and civilizations we want to see in Civilization VII! Sips but he gets angrier as the video progresses: https://youtu.be/BOLMK_5cvPY?si=6FftCvFQClEbD1lW Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I had a fantastic evening last night. Me and a couple of my mates went to see a singer that we like, Katie J. Pearson is her name and she played at a place called Coco. It's up in Camden. Well, not quite Camden, Mornington Crescent, but it was such a good gig, and she was brilliant, and it was just a great evening. So I'm- What kind of music is it?

It's indie, but I suppose you could say there's a little bit of a country twang to it. Her voice is remarkable. She's got a great voice. And she did a cover of a song by Heart called Alone, which is one of my favorite Heart songs. And she was so good. Her band were excellent. She was amazing.

It was brilliant. It was a really, really good gig. And it made me very happy. And me and my mates got really drunk and it was fantastic. Nice. But what was interesting when we walked into Coco, me and my mate were like, smells amazing in here. It smelled really good.

Like the whole place just smell like a fruity smell. No, it's just really lovely. Almost like, you know, when someone's got like potpourri or was always like all these lovely smells. I said to Mrs. F this morning about how nice it smelled. She goes, well, that's because you went to see a woman singer instead of like some sweaty bunch of blokes there, it was mainly, it was like a lot of women and women smell nice.

So I was like, that's a good point. I think it was just the combined perfume. I see. It was the combined aroma of perfuming that gave it like an incense cloud. Yes. Yes. I genuinely think it might've been that. I don't know.

I mean, I've had lots of tradesmen in recently. And recently I've noticed they- Do they in recently. Um, and, uh, recently I noticed they, yeah, they do actually, some of them, I don't know what shower gel or whatever they're using, but like some of them actually smell really good. You know, I feel like they've got like this job that's kind of like gets them all sweaty and, and, and it's, you know, rough and they get dirty and stuff. And then they go home and they have a shower, but they got like really nice shower gel, you know, they don't skimp on it or something. Like it doesn't smell, it just, it smells good.

You know, I'm, I'm, I'm proud of those guys for coming into my house and smelling so good because they smell better than me. I wake up in the morning, I stink. Those guys turn up at like 730 AM. They smell great. Women's women's smell nice. They're hearing it now first for the first time on the triforce podcast. Yeah.

Um, men stink. I just wanted to balance things out. You know, I don't want to, I, you know, I want to, I want to give a shout out to good smelling men out there as well. You know, I know we've been, we smell great. This is known, but, uh, let's not forget about the man either, you know? Or, or let's. What you've been up to this week, Sips?

What you've been doing? I've been playing a lot of Marvel rivals, like some sort of weird crack addict. It's just, it's my most recent obsession. I've been playing a lot. You went down the Overwatch hole. This is Overwatch. I did. But with, but yeah, it's just, it's a, it's a same, same hole.

It's the same game. New game, same hole. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, is there any chance you climbing out of that hole? Uh, well, I'm sure eventually. Yeah. I was looking at, uh, in shrouded, which I might pick up.

Um, I was watching, um, Limy play it for a little bit the other day and it looked pretty cool. It looks like, uh, like Terraria kind of, you know, you gather a lot of people together and make a settlement. It, you know, it, it, it takes a lot of boxes for me. I think I'll, I'll check out. I mean, I could have, perhaps and really enjoyed it actually. I'm sure that we did, um, just sponsor video on it as well.

And we were big fans. So yeah, grab a couple of your mates and give it a go. It's a good, it's a good, um, well the problem is, is everybody, I know, is playing rivals extensively. So, oh, you could pull a few people out of that for a few hours. I'm sure they'll love to. Yeah. Love playing.

It was, it was a real nice, nice fun game. I watched you playing Civ seven yesterday, Lulu with, with done. Yeah. I watched some of that. Uh, and I couldn't tell. What'd you think of it? Yeah. Okay. Let's move on. No, I, I, it's okay. My, here's my take on Civ 7 real quick. Civ games change completely every time. So for some reason they decide to completely reinvent the wheel every time the new Civ game

comes out and it's got a new graphics engine. It's got a new UI, which isn't very good. And it's got a lot of things that are missing that I think they just forgot about a lot of things are like, there's this always complaint that when a new one comes out, they didn't put in something from the previous one. And so, you know, they try to do that. Like they've got volcanoes in this one. Just say, I mean, it's kind of like one at one 80th of what they were like in the previous ones. It's just like a little snapshot of that to like stop the, you know, people say, well, this one doesn't have volcanoes. But it does, but like they're not as good, you know, or interesting. And that goes for everything about the game, right? The thing I don't like about it mostly is the way 2K have... I think, okay,

personally the whole... You know the process of a game where the game is 60 pounds, but a founders edition is 90 pounds and you get the early access and then the actual deluxe edition is 120 pounds, right? So they fully leant into that over the last sort of 10 years with Civ. And yes, I don't mind paying for an expansion, but to be, and we know that Civ games don't get good until the second expansion. Yeah. And this one's okay. So first of all, it's clearly been rushed out the door because the third age is completely unfinished and, and you know, you can't, it's, it's, it's, no one's, no one's played it. It feels like no one's played the third age. Um. Or like they didn't get that. They focused so hard

on the first six hours of the game that the last three hours kind of not there. Jason Vale I know Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 came out like yesterday or the day before. Jason Vale Yeah. Jason Vale And everything I've seen about it is really positive and people are like this game functions and it feels good and complete and Baldur's Gate was like that as well. Jason Vale Yeah. Civ is a game that Civ 6 was fucking years ago. They've had a lot of time to work on this. So they can't be rushed out the door.

It can't be barely finished. It's not like they're designing something from scratch. It's just a Civ game. Just make a fucking Civ game. How hard is it? The problem with Civ is that their philosophy is very much like they want to keep a third, the same, improve a third and add the third new stuff, which makes sense on paper, right? But when they look

at CIV, they've got to, they've got this difficult area where they have to keep the existing audience happy, but add new things. So they, they, they look at CIV six and they're like, okay, what do we not like about CIV six? The first thing they know is that there's still some buildings going on in the city, which doesn't really make very much sense. So let's build those outside the city. But then you realize there's so many buildings, you can't possibly build them outside the city. So you've got to build two per tile. And it's like, okay, they've almost had this like little discussion where they're like, well, how do we solve this problem? Well, let's just add two per tile. And they're like,

can we do that? And it's like, yeah, we could just call them quarters. Um, and, but as a result, like the ends, ends up with these really strange, strange, it's just a very hodgepodge, a very, very confusing to a new player for almost no reason. Um, and I think there's a lot of design decisions that have been made in that same sense. Like, well, we don't like this. So how can we change it without changing too much? And a lot of stuff is also like, well, let's keep this the same because people like this, like social policy cards. Everyone loved those from Civ 6. You know, do you remember opening that menu and looking through that massive list of cards and it didn't really tell you what any of them did? It was like plus 25% building maintenance happiness. You're like, what the fuck does that mean?

And you slot the card in and your science goes up and you. You're like, what the fuck does that mean? And you slot the card in and your science goes up and you're like, oh, how the fuck has this happened? Do you see what I mean? Like you have no idea from, cause there's no proper tool tips. There's no proper fucking understanding of what stuff means. There's like a lot of stuff.

It's like you built this and it's like, certainly when I watched this building, replaces your warehouse. It's like, what even is that? Yeah. When I watched you guys playing it, I felt like I was very confused. And there were a lot of, a lot of the UI. We are people who've played a lot of all the games. And Potato put out two videos.

I saw them. Yeah. Yeah. Mostly for like viral meme marketing. One saying, Civ 7 is a zero out of 10 terrible game. And the other video was Civ 7 is a 10 out of 10 masterpiece where he basically talks about things he liked in one and things he didn't like in the other. I thought that was really funny. He is the Civ content creator really. And this is his bread and butter. And he kind of, he's got to give some criticism because he's going to have to be playing this

game for the next two years, you know, on his channel. Poor boy. But fortunately I don't. I don't expect, I didn't expect to like it. I've enjoyed in my experiences so far, but would I pay 90 pounds for it early access and then another 300 pounds over the next two years to get all the other CIVs and DLCs unlocked. No, not really. I think I'll play it because my friends are playing it and I'm... How did it feel stable, the multiplayer? Did it feel okay? No, it desynced a lot. Fantastic. All right, well, let's move on to pressing.

Yeah. I think it's the same guy who's been doing bad net code for all the Civ games and he still works there. He's a change of topic. If you're the same guy who's been doing it for... Correct. A message to you at 2K or whoever you are, good on you for still having a job there and staying under the radar. What a lad. What a staying pal. I applaud you. All right. I found an interesting Billy Joel fact the other day.

You know Billy Joel? Yeah, go for it. Billy Joel who was married to Christie Brinkley. Billy Joel. That Billy Joel. Yeah, yeah. The singer. The piano man.

Exactly. He attended Hicksville High School in Hicksville, which I thought was fictional because Hicksville seems like an insult for somebody who lives in the country. Go back to Hicksville, but it's a real place. Until 1967, but he did not graduate with his class. He was playing at a piano bar to help support himself, his mother and sister, and missed a crucial English exam after playing a late night gig the evening before. Although Joe was a comparatively strong student, at the end of his senior year he did not have

enough credits to graduate. Rather than attend summer school to win his diploma, he decided to begin a music career. I told him to hell with it. I'm not going to Columbia University. I'm going to Columbia Records and you don't need a high school diploma over there. So he'd never graduated high school. In 1992, he submitted essays to the school board in lieu of the MIS exam. They were accepted and he was awarded his diploma at Hicksville High's annual graduation ceremony, 25 years after leaving. So he went to graduate his high school 25 years after he left. I thought that was great. I loved that.

It's a nice story, but it's also, if you worked for that school and Billy Joel got in contact and said, can I come to your school? All you need to do is give me a diploma. You'd be like, yeah, fucking absolutely. He's a, he's famous, right? He's a, he's famous, right? And famous. Yeah. It's a good shout. He's famous. It's what he didn't actually have to do any other stuff, any other exams. And to be perfectly honest, a high school diploma to him, to them, no one cares. Like it's, I think you can, you know, I'm honestly surprised that schools can just give out high school diplomas to

anyone they want. They don't. He had to pass an exam. He didn't though, did he? He had to. Some essays in Loo 25 years later when the syllabus had completely changed. Gosh, you're a grumpy bugger. Or maybe this will cheer you up. Billy Joel has had some issues with like his band in the past as well. Like I think he was being a bit of a prick to them. I'm sure. No, I didn't say he was a prick. I'm just saying. No, but I think he is known as like, I think a lot of his, his, his former bandmates are like, oh, he was, he was, he was a nightmare to work with and stuff. Yeah. He didn't pay them well

and all sorts. I do. Correct me if I'm wrong listeners, but I think that might be the case with Billy Joel. I don't think. If you're a Billy Joel fan, let us know if he's a prick to his band. He broke up with Christie Brinkley as well, which is... Sorry, she was a prick as well. Maybe she was really boring. Yeah, I think that's why he did. It was something like that. I'm sorry I'm so grumpy all of a sudden.

Sorry, Billy Joel. What's happened? I'm sorry. I'm so grumpy all of a sudden. Sorry, Billy Joel. Sorry. I just have to, to bend down very far to speak to you face to face Billy Joel about your breaking up with Christie Brinkley. I'm not sure what was going through your damn mind, but yeah, apparently it happened. I think we, I think we are just assuming that every, every celebrity is secretly an asshole. We can't, we're scared to like say we like anything and anyone because who knows what's going to happen. You know?

Yeah. Because man, it must be the, it's got it. It's a busy time. You know what they're doing. What the planes they're booking even more and more planes so that they can turn around and be like, we need this third runway. That's what they're doing. That's already a capacity as it is.

All right, so let me tell you guys a story. This happened to my friend, one of the mates I went out with last night. I'll read it to you. I'll remove anything like identifying, obviously. Hi, hope everyone is having a good evening. I'm not. The builders covered our extension floor in something called Blackjack earlier, which is basically like a liquid black tar. Whilst my son had mates over and my wife was on work calls, one of the fucking cats decided to

vault over the seven foot barrier the builders had put in place and walk through the stuff. She then exited via the open back doors, came in through the cat flap and trod tar up the stair carpet. No one is helping me to do anything about it, so I trap the cat in our bedroom where I don't care about the carpet and get to work on cleaning the stairs. Finally, my wife comes off her call, by which point the cat is freaking out because the tar has set and her paws have just gone like big clumps. My wife googles that oily products like butter help to break down the tar and get it out. So we start trying to get some butter into the cat's paws. Which does have some effect, but my wife leaves the door open and the cat wriggles free, bolts back down the stairs,

this time leaving a trail of buttery tar prints. By this point I'm seriously losing my rag. We eventually get hold of the cat again and spend close to one and a half hours trying to bathe a cat. Our bathroom was utterly caked in tar, which again took an eternity to clean. We've ruined four towels, a bath mat, the rug in our bedroom and the stairs aren't looking great. The cat's paws are only marginally better. This whole process has taken about three hours. Oh, I would have just thrown that cat in the bin. Just a write off. Get a new one. I thought you were going to say we spent three hours murdering our cat because that's what

I would have been doing. Poor cat. That is a real, that is a real, that is one of the things that you have. That's a peril of having the cats. It is. Pet ownership is a mind field. You think they're really smart, your cat, but no, they have one orange brain cell. Oh yeah.

There are some people that think their cats are smart. Listen, your cats are moron. I'm sorry. Every cat. They're the occasional cat that is smart for a cat, but they're still thick as anything. They are very stupid animals. Oh my goodness. Hey, speaking of animals, guess who is awake from his hibernation and thriving? Already?

Already. Yeah, it's been eight weeks. It's about right. Young Terry is awake? Terry is his first. It was his first big hibernation. So eight, six to eight weeks is pretty good for him. And he really just do fuck all when he was hibernating. He just, he actually just slept the whole time. I checked on him every day and he was really cold. He was like a block ice and he was asleep.

Every, every time I checked on him, he would like his leg would move a little bit or he'd'd adjust or whatever. Sometimes I'd check on him in the morning and he'd be not where he was when I checked on him in the night. Just to check he was still alive. Is that what the idea is? Yeah. Well, yeah, of course.

You got to make sure that he's still... He was like letting you know that he was still alive as well. Yeah, he would give you a little wave. That's right. I'm okay. I'm okay, Chris. I'm okay. Don't worry about me. I'm just sleeping. Can you feed me some lettuce?

I don't like to think of him speaking like that. Don't mind me. Yeah, yeah, that's what I like. I got him talking like Gandalf in there and you're coming at me with the tiny Tim, which I don't... I'm not sleeping! Please close the door, Chris, I'm sleeping! They let the cold out! You know what I got? Yeah, they let the cold out. So, last day, Mrs. F bought me a weighted blanket, because I have trouble sleeping in general. Apparently these things are great. This blanket weights so fucking much.

I know. They're just getting it onto the bed. I was like, Jesus! But it really does. I felt as snug as a tortoise in a fridge. It was really, really lovely. I slept really well. I feel like I'm hibernating when I'm under my weighted blanket.

It's fantastic. I recommend it. Yeah, they are way heavier than you think. They're so heavy! What do they put in there? I feel like it's just like a duvet cover, but with like those plates like in Rainbow Siege, you know, the ones you slide into your armor. Is it something like that? No, it's like, I don't, I assume that it's a honeycomb inside and inside the honeycomb,

very fine honeycomb, you can feel these balls, tiny little glass beads. Oh, just like loads and loads and loads and loads of them. So it feels a bit like a beanbag or like one of those kind of things. And it's not like you tip it on its side and all the balls run to one end. And is it comfortable? Very. Wow. Very. Like if you've ever sort, like, you know, obviously, you and I both, I assume you share a duvet with your wife like I do. So we've got a duvet, or we have a sheet in the summer or whatever.

There's always that little gap and, you know, sometimes you can't quite get this, your feet are cold or whatever. The weighted blanket sits over you and encompasses and presses everything down so much. You're like in a snug pocket. You're like the inside of a Cornish pasty. That's you. And you just, there's this coating all around you that's just not moving. And the pressure down on you is kind of reassuring.

It's like being swaddled as a grownup, basically. ALICE Yes. Yes. JUSTIN I loved it. It was so, so good. I recommend it. ALICE Yeah, my, we still have murder. ALICE It's not for everyone. It's not for everyone. I tried it, I didn't like it. It was so, so good. I recommend it. Yeah, my, we still have more. This is the thing, it's not for everyone.

It's not for everyone. I tried it, I didn't like it. Our youngest still wakes up in the night and comes into our bed, so I've got like this, I got this technique where basically my, like my back and my ass and the back of my legs are sticking out one side of the duvet because I have to overcompensate on the other side. I have to make like a little barrier, because otherwise I'm getting slapped and kicked and sometimes even worse, I'm getting like a toe in my ribs or like a toe like in my back or something.

A knee. Yeah, god, it's so annoying when it wakes you up and you're just like, oh god, like who is doing this? And then you realize- Who is beating me up in my sleep? It's so annoying when it wakes you up and you're just like, Oh God, like who is doing this? And then you realize- Who is beating me up from my sleeper? It's one of my people, but they're driving me nuts. And you, so yeah, I just, I don't know.

I think I can, at this point I can sleep anywhere, anyhow, you know, I could sleep standing up in the cold even. Like you just get used to not having ideal sleep conditions with little kids, you know? I guess you've been through it three times as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's with different sleepers. Yeah.

Well, you know, it's, um, people want to, you're their weighted blanket sips. They want to be reassured. Yeah. It must be. Yeah. I think I must generate a lot of heaters. I'm like quite a, quite a warm person. I think I got good circulation or something, but like-

That's with the shorts and stuff. Yeah. I'm quite a warm person. I think I got good circulation or something. That's with the shorts and stuff. Yeah, I'm always warm. And you know, like if I get into a bed, that thing is like, it's cooking. It's going like, you know, oven heat in there with the body heat that I give off. So I don't know, maybe they like that. Maybe they just like that, like a warm bed, you know? Don't need a heated blanket or anything, I'm like a little reactor. Or a big one.

A big reactor. In many ways, all my reaction content on YouTube as well. Love reacting to things. Oh yeah, love a good reaction. What are you burning in that furnace? Margarita pizzas. Mostly cheese, yeah. Lots of cheese.

Bread. And- So it's oil. burning in that furnace? Um, mostly, mostly cheese. Yeah. Lots of cheese, bread, um, and, and, and, and, and oil, oil. Yeah. There's some oil in there too. Um, but yeah, mostly, uh, just those, those types of carbs. Yeah. Just, uh, just burning like, uh, burning bright, burning all night. Oh, I made another song.

Great. If you guys want to hear it. Yeah, I do. You do. Sure. This is you do. Well, you went great. So I like. No, no, I'm excited. I like your songs. All right. This is called Sips. Oh, God.

Oh, God. You ready? Yeah. Yes. Three, two, one. Play. Oh, you can hear a little electric guitar in the back there distorted as well Oh, thanks. Thanks. Great. Did you recall this this week when he was doing the Marvel rivals? Oh, man. Great. Where did you get all those clips?

That's just, that was, I wanted one of you getting angry and I thought that was the funniest one because you lose the ability to speak. You're just going so angry. And then you're just like, Oh God, he's being killed. And it was just, you missed a bunch of shots in hitman. You were trying to shoot. Honestly, if you heard that from the next room, you'd think someone's killing Sibs. Oh God. Oh man.

Oh, hitman. Did you ever play hitman Freelancer? I don't remember. I played the Hitman games. I don't remember the names. They're all called something that's pretty much the same. You know, I mean, freelancer is kind of like, uh, it's like, is that when you build up your base and shit? Yeah, it's so good, man. It was so good. I played it a lot. I want to play it again. Actually. It was really fun. It's, it's a bit like bit like, like rogue, like, you know, like you,

you have like a series of missions that you need to get to the end of in order to sort of pass like the sequence. But sometimes you, it's like luck of the draw, you know, sometimes you'll get bad maps or, or whatever. And it's fun though. It's, it's well done. It's good. Yeah. But frustrating as well at times. Oh, apparently so. Yeah. As evidence go. Yeah. But frustrating as well at times. Apparently so. Yeah. As evidence there.

Yeah. Oh man. Another another great song flex. How do you do it? Oh, well, I came home a little pretty drunk and I just thought I'm bored. What time did you get home drunk? Did you still play some Dota last night? No, I didn't.

I got home at about 11.30 and I wasn't tied, so I farted around in BandLab and made that. Nice. And then this morning I woke up and thought, I'll just check if that's actually anything. Otherwise, you know, I may have drunkenly made something that doesn't make any sense, but it really made me laugh to hear. Yeah, parts of it just sound like it sounds like you've you've looped like parts of a gay porno in the back. It's just so it sounds like dudes fucking in the back.

But I'll try and find the actual video. I'll get the time code for it. And I don't know if we can put in the original, but it was. It's just like a 10, six seconds of you just actually losing your shit. And it really made me laugh. Nice. And you sort of got your head in your hands. Now, I think it's from the sips, but he gets angrier.

Or is it sips rage? There's a couple of those. Yeah. I mean, there's been enough rage over the years for sure. XCOM, Overwatch, Hitman. God, I think there's even Minecraft rage in there that I've raged at just about everything. As you do though, I mean, gaming rage. It's something. I don't know. I don't know if you guys have ever. I love this. Hold on. Let me just get it. This is, this is the URL. Look at you. Look at your face here. Kill me. Just fucking kill. Oh, fuck. Oh, God.

I can't believe that. Oh, fuck. Just look how angry you are. I'm like all red. Sit for he gets angrier as the video progresses. Yeah. I mean, I think how long is the video? Like 10 minutes long or something.

I think I've got like a, I definitely got a spectrum of anger. So I linked it, the time code for this bit and it's just, you missed these shots and it's like three headshots in a row. Yeah. And then you just like, you want to tear something apart. You look so angry. It in a row. Yeah. And then you just, like, you want to tear something apart. You look so angry. It is a different anger spectrum. This anger is the disbelief, right?

It's like kind of frustration. It's not the same as like the anger where you smack your desk. Like that's the serious like, like, pissed off anger. Like there's definitely different kinds of like, you could tell that this is you angry, but also frustrated about like, I don't know. Like, yeah, like you can't quite, I can't quite believe that it's like bad luck anger. It's like, it's not even his words at that point. It's yeah.

Bad luck anger. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. Let's say that bad. It was bad luck. The game is broken sometimes, you know, like some frames skipped or something. I don't know. All like, yeah, like some, some like, uh, but also, you know, you're streaming right in the

back of your mind. And sometimes I think sometimes when you're streaming, your genuine anger does overwhelm, like your genuine feelings and emotions do overwhelm you. And you stop realizing that you're live on the internet when you're getting angry. There is this sort of animal rage that can build up in you. And sometimes, you know, where we would have these big shouting matches in Dota P-Flex, you know, sometimes that was like, it bubbles to the surface. But I think usually there's some element of like, just light awareness that like, this is not worth being angry about. But sometimes it's the game, right? Certain games make you throw your controller down, or make you like, go like, fuck this game, you know, and like all F4 in Rage when there's

something... You see those guys, sometimes there are loads of Rage, Gamer Rage compilations on YouTube. There's people who like, it's not even that bad. Like they die in a game and it's like, yeah, that's annoying. But they'll like smash up their keyboard. They'll smash their headset like they're going absolutely fucking crazy. Have you ever seen the guy who gets so mad that he like he puts his microphone in his mouth and like chews on it really hard?

Yeah. his microphone in his mouth and like, choose on it really hard. Just like just, you know, at that point, is this a fun hobby that you're enjoying? I don't think it is. I don't think you could call this something you do to relax and have fun. Gaming is clearly just miserable. Well, depends on the game. I play plenty of games that are pretty chill. Like, you know, I'm just building something or whatever. It's not too frustrating, but anytime I play competitive games, I'll get, you know, I'll

have moments. Sometimes I think for the most part I'm, I'm all right. And then every once in a while it all just builds up and I'll just have like a big blowout, you know, I'll just, I'll just get really fucking pissed off. You're totally right. It does tend to be like games where either you know you've lost or like you're so close to winning and you're like, oh, I'm always there to happen. And then when it, and also I think it's proportional to how long the time you've spent committed to it is, right? Like if you're playing a game like Trouble in Terror Town where a round is five minutes, you can't be too invested in that. Whereas if you're playing some of these async TI games I'm playing, which go on for six

weeks, you feel so fucking invested in this stupid thing that if you make a small mistake, you're like, oh my God. Or something goes wrong, you just feel awful about it. Because even though it's completely artificial, it doesn't matter. And you're playing these games for fun, or you're supposed to. But I think it must just be the nature of the time commitment that we in our heads think the time we've committed to this has to be worth an equivalent feeling back of reward for being successful in it, or angry at making a mistake. Sometimes you're angry at yourself. I think it's worse. I think it's mostly anger at yourself, really.

Yeah. I think it's worse to be angry at other people though. Or like, you know, you can see that happening in the multiplayer game. Or when you blame someone on your team for going wrong. Or you blame yourself. And I think there's a lot of frustration in those games, too. I think also other people's anger triggers each other. People are infectiously angry with other people. Anger is this thing which is very translatable and people feel angry on behalf of other people think someone's angry and so they're angry. I'm furious. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, imagine you're playing Dota, you're in your third game, you've just lost two games. Okay. And you're like, okay, well we'll do a win or whatever.

Or I don't know if you care about wins or losses or whatever, but your third game, you're thinking, you know, this might be a good game or at least, you know, it could even be a win or whatever. But then you get like some techies Smurf that just absolutely doesn't let anybody play the game or whatever. You know, like, it's like that. It's like that moment. You're just like, oh, fuck.

I do. I hate it when we bump into Smurfs. Like I think what's annoying to me is that everybody thinks that the companies that make these games are so clever and they are very clever, but they also don't do things. None of them that are so obvious that you think if I can tell this person's cheating or smurfing, how can you not develop a system that can pick up on that? Yeah.

Like in Tarkov is a good example of that. You look at some guys that are cheating, their KDA, they've got like 66 kills per death average. Yeah. So they'll go into multiple raids, kill everything. Yeah. And they're only very rarely do they die. And you think, is there really no system for picking up on that and flagging that account? Because I can tell instantly from looking at their profile, this guy's got a hundred

hours and like a thousand kills, this guy's cheating. Or in Dota you look, and you look at someone who's, they last pick mid, last pick something like Archward nor Invoker, and they've got 80 wins last pick something like Ark Warden or Invoker, and they've got 80 wins. You're like, okay, here we go. The thing is, you need someone at the company who is, who is like a hobby policeman, though, right? Like when we went to Steam, do you remember there was a guy like on his lunch break randomly like searching for, you know, like people who were scamming or something. Do you know what I mean? Like who worked for Steam. And I think that wasn't his job. You know, it's like, you know, and I think at these games

companies, you know, people have got very delineated jobs and they go in and they do a job. And I think having a guy whose job it is to, you know, go through the stats and like build little algorithms to like track cheaters is like, it's just not something which is on their to-do list, even though it would improve the health of their game no end, right? Quite frankly, so many of these games just are happy to, these games are just happy to abandon their game and move on with the next one, you know, as soon as they can. True. Yes, it totally makes sense for the best game, you know, for something like Marvel Rivals

right now, they definitely need to have someone who's cracking down on that stuff. But for 99% of games, they're not gonna bother. No, even rivals, like the thing is that they'll clamp down, clamp down, clamp down. I don't think they ever will. But the ways that they would have to clamp down is they would have to restrict, you know, they'd have to take a phone number for somebody. They'd have to do placements, they'd have to do this, they'd have to take a phone number for somebody. Uh, they'd have to do placements. They'd have to do this. They'd have to just give them lots of hurdles to make it so that they don't do it because at the moment there's nothing you, all you need to do is just create an all it's a free game.

So you create an alt account and away you go. And, um, it's, but there's, there's other things to it as well. You know, like a lot of YouTubers and streamers want to do, you know, Oh, I'm going from bronze to top 500 with this hero or whatever, you know, like a lot of YouTubers and streamers want to do, you know, oh, I'm going from bronze to top 500 with this hero or whatever, you know, like a lot of people make content around it or whatever. I think Overwatch two is finally looking at potentially clamping down on it, but, um, I don't know. I feel like, I mean, I've been playing enough rivals recently and yeah, I mean,

it it's annoying when there's a smurf or whatever, but I'm just at the point now where it's just like, oh,, it's just one of those games, you know, like just do what you can or try to learn something new or try a different hero, whatever. And then on with the next one. You know what I mean? It's constantly arms race too, right? Like they banned, didn't they ban like snap tap or whatever? Yeah.

Like counterstrike. What's it called? Like that, those keyboards that had, um, like, snapy-tappy, whatever it was called. No, it was basically so when you, you could like, it was basically like a keyboard thing that when you would like, when AD, like, you were strafing back and forth between A and D, it would like do it instantly rather than, um, do it like, you know, it's always the same with these games where there's so many scripts and things like this. It's hard to keep track and obviously anyone will do anything for a small advantage.

Like macro keyboards, oh my god, like auto clickers. Yeah. I mean, yeah. But I will say for a free game and the amount of played of of rivals recently, there have, there's been cases where there's Smurfs and you could tell who they are. You, you know, like you go into a game and somebody's, you know, gotten an account rank 12, but they're like diamond, you know what I mean? Like everybody starts at bronze three and has to work their way up, you know, bronze three, two, one silver three, two, one gold three, two, one21 gold, 321, plat 321 diamond, 321. Um, yeah.

And, but you can only start this at level 10. So like, you know, to, to basically win every single game you play to get to diamond, you can tell that it's, you know, it's just somebody's all to count. They're good at the game or whatever. Um, but, but even then, like, we've had games where we've won against people like that, but then you'll get games where somebody will just play something like Wolverine and just shit all over your whole team for the entirety of the game. But at least the games are really quick.

You know, 10 minutes you're done and then you just you can move on. I think that's that's it. Yeah. You know what? Here's a question. This is a bit of a change of topic. But if you look at so in Civ six, the list of luxury, yes. Yes. All right. I want you to tell me if you consider all of these to be, to be luxury, six, six, six list of luxury. I hear I've got the list here. I've got the list here. List of resources in six. Yeah. You got Amber, In Civ six. Yeah, you got amber, cinnamon, citrus, cloves,

honey, coke, coffee, cosmetics, cotton dyes, diamonds, furs, gypsum. I don't know what you use that for. Gypsum is used in like, well, now it's it's used in like like plastering products and stuff. You know, like drywall plaster. That's all gypsum. Incense, ivory, jade, jeans, marble, mercury, olives, pearls, perfume, salt, silk, silver, spices, sugar, tea, tobacco, toys, truffles, turtles, whales and wine. Now that's a decent list.

Wine, whales, ivory, incense. This stuff is all like, you know, historically luxury or even modern day like diamonds. So would you say that nowadays people would consider turtles and mercury and Jade and gypsum and dyes or clothes to be luxury? No, because I mean, but this is a game that spans multiple. Exactly. Point six. Thank you for setting me up.

My point is this. How come we don't develop new luxuries don't appear throughout the ages, things that people didn't even know how to use and consider luxuries back then. Suddenly we figured out video games. That's a luxury and loads of people buy. That's a huge. Maybe as you get into like future check in tech and SIV, they can have like like your like Pornhub subscription.

Exactly. Yeah. So I'm thinking what could be some modern day luxuries? Yeah. I mean, Gregg's you could build a commercial space travel could be like a luxury, like staying in a hotel, space tourism, staying in a nice hotel, going to Ibiza. Cause I think that would be interesting as a sort of, if you're going through the eras like you are in Civ 7, where you've got the ancient era, the things that were luxuries for the Romans and the Greeks and the Egyptians are not the things that are still luxuries

today. Although these, a lot of many of these things are things we still eat. You want to say, oh, they have they have dyes for their clothes. Everybody has dyes for their clothes. It's not even a concern anymore. You wouldn't consider it a luxury that your clothes had some color to them. Everything you are wearing has some kind of dye in it. Back then, we're talking about clothing that was the same color as whatever was made of. Yeah, it was just like everything just was like burlap.

Back then, was just like, everything just was like burlap back then. Right. Like burlap or just like it was made from... So if you had something that was a different color, you were just like, whoa. This guy's loaded. Who is this? He's got a blue t-shirt. Who is this?

Sexy man. I think it depends. When it comes to food, one person's luxury is another person's requirement. Having sugar in your tea or having, I don't know, tuna sandwiches or I don't know, whatever it is. These days, probably lobsters, crabs are still, inverted commas, a luxury kind of food. I would say so. Crabs not on the list for Civ-6.

Caviar. I guess because of course crabs are people and clams are people. So crabs are a basic resource. You can't have people as a luxury. You got cosmetics here, coffee, I mean, historically coffee, anything that needed to be imported from a different land back in the day was considered a luxury, right? So like spices, cocoa, all that kind of stuff. But now obviously with, you know, globalization, industrialization, these things are not really considered luxuries anymore. Indeed.

I don't know about gypsum. Gypsum goes in a category of its own, I think. Yeah, look at it. Civ 6 is making me miss it. Gypsum is still used, but I just don't think it's a rare commodity. Fertilizer, and the main constituent of plaster drywall and chalk. It also crystallizes as translucent crystals of selenite was selenite. What's selenite used for?

No idea. It is. They don't know. Whales are still kind of considered... Okay, let me... They use whales for cosmetics and stuff, don't they? So on Civ 7, one of the things they've done is, they always do this in Civ games and I kind of like it. They try and include unusual Civs and unusual leaders, right?

Who haven't kind of been in the games before or haven't been highlighted before. And to be honest, I find it difficult because I don't know who these people are. Now some of them are fairly recognizable, like, I don't know who these people are. Now some of them are fairly recognizable, like Napoleon. Although I'm not sure Napoleon should be one of them, to be honest, because he was a pretty awful man who led Europe into, he was Hitler before Hitler, basically. If it wasn't for Hitler, we'd probably talk about, exactly. And I think Tiff's heaven have forgotten it. And then you've got people, you know, like, I don't know, like Harriet Tubman, who is an American black civil rights lady. I don't really know her history, but she is

an interesting person to be in charge of, I don't know, someone, you know, like a colonial power who would have done a lot of slavery back in that era. It's all very strange. And you know, here's one, when it comes to Napoleon, and I think I might've said this before, I find it en croire that the French have the Arc de Triomphe. Yeah. Right. And they have that in the middle of fucking Paris. It's like you can't miss it. It's the biggest, most chaotic roundabout in the world. John Wick had a big fight there in the most recent John Wick film.

That honors the dead from the Napoleonic Wars. They're on it on there. That was essentially a war of conquest. That wasn't France defending itself. That was Napoleon saying, I'm going to have everything. I'm going to control the whole of fucking Europe. They still have this thing. It would be like if in Germany you had a big fucking thing right in the middle of

Berlin honoring all the generals of World War Two and called it the the Act of Triumph or whatever you would call it in German. How can the French get away with this? Why do they get a free pass on having the fucking Arc de Triomphe? Everybody's like, oh, the Arc de Triomphe. Fantastic. There's got to be more. They've got to. There's got to be more to it than that.

In addition, it's called the Arch of Triumph. Yeah. And it has the French Revolutionary soldiers who fought and died and the Napoleonic guys who fought and died and World War I. It's got the unknown soldier buried under it. But it's got I mean, you know, it's hard. So it's multi. It's multipurpose, then is what you're saying. But it's still celebrating the Napoleonic, the hard to have much triumph. It's multi-purpose then, is what you're saying.

But it's still celebrating the Napoleonic, the soldiers who fought and died in the Napoleonic Wars. That's pretty remarkable. I know, well, I mean, I guess, you know, I guess they were people that need to have some sort of commemorate... I know it's not ideal, but... Let's throw it in the canal, like that statue of... What would you like them to do with it, Flax?

How about if they called it the arc of some of its triumphant, like the French Revolution. The Arch of Shame. Yeah, fair enough. But part of the Arch of Shame. Everyday Parisians have to go there and slap themselves, uh, for shame. Oh, just saying, how soon we forget. We just say, oh yeah, Napoleon is fine.

The other people, so Napoleon's got two, two, and then you've got Lafayette as well, who's the French, do you know who Lafayette is? I'm looking him up, Lafayette. Exactly, you have to look him up. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Right, here he goes. He's Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette. So he's a French nobleman who was part of the Revolutionary War.

He joined the Continental Army led by George Washington in the American Revolutionary war. He was, he was a remarkable Continental army troops, remarkable man. And he was a key figure in the French revolution of 1789. Yeah. So, so, so interesting. So again, two Polians, a Lafayette, um, the, they've got Harriet Tubman, I've got Confucius, obviously heard of him, but then they've got Charlemagne, another French person, the father of Europe. I'm not saying that this is favor of the French, but that's four. Is there a rapper called Charlemagne as well? Charlemagne.

You don't want to get confused. And then you've got, okay, so do you know who José Rizal is? No, I have to look it up. José Rizal. No. Obviously probably a very important person in world history, but he's a Filipino nationalist. Okay. Okay.

So who's, who's trunk track? She is the, I don't know. I think Vietnamese, a set of twins who were military leader maybe, or maybe not even a twins. I can't remember. How do you know all this? Because he's looked out. Oh, you're looking it up as we're saying. There's a bunch of people who, I get it, right?

But it's like kind of weird. They've picked Fred Friedrich the second, I think as the German one. He has two characters. Benjamin Franklin is the first American, you can play as him. And then you could play as Amina, who I've never heard of, Ashoka, who I've never heard of. You know, it's like Hatshepsut. And yet not a single English person is in the game. So they have said this, that the British DLC is going to be with Ada Lovelace.

British DLC when Great Britain was such a huge player early on in world history. It doesn't make sense to just not have a trace of them. In terms of ancient era, fine. We tend to shit. We were just invaded by the Romans, invaded by the Normans, fair enough. But certainly, much of the second half of the last 2000 years, a lot of that, Britain has certainly been a big part of that, especially in the colonial era. Yeah, jeez.

World War II and all that. I don't understand. Super. They were the superpower back in the day. They were the superpower back in the day. Yeah. And I'm not asking for it. I just feel like it's a ways a bit strange to go through. And also, I think the whole thing is a little bit, there's a lot of civilizations I've never heard of as well, somehow. The Bugandans, who I believe is maybe that means Ugandan, but it's just...

They dropped the U in a rebrand? The Chola, you know, the various... there's loads of these strange sort of... So it's a Bantu kingdom within Uganda. The kingdom of the Buganda people is the largest of the traditional kingdoms in present day East Africa, consisting of Uganda's central region, including the Ugandan capital of Kampala, the 14 million Baganda, singular Muganda, often referred to simply by the root word and adjective Ganda, make up the largest Ugandan region. But I don't know, I wouldn't say that, did they do much? Genuine question. I don't know. Were they like a huge deal back then?

Mason- I'm not, maybe I need to swap on my education. Also the Maorians, I've never heard of those. Is that the Maori? No, that's different to the Maori and different to the Maya and different to the Marjah Pahit who are also in this. Interesting. You know what, you know what, also one thing I'll say is that they will often have something like Native Americans, for example, right? Or what do they call them? First nation peoples or whatever the term you want to use is. And I think if we're talking about the effect that like a civilization had on world history, which is what I always

thought civilization was about, was picking the leaders and nations that had a massive impact on the people we are today. I don't think that you could say, like when I was playing Civ 6 the other day, that the Cree nation really had a massive impact on world history. Like I know that may seem unfair, but they really didn't, did they? Back then a lot of these civilizations were confined. There was no global scale for anything unless you were like a big empire, right? So all of these little, like little minor nations or civilizations and stuff are

always just going to have like more of a, like a local impact. Right, so but would you say that Egypt is not- I just don't know if Civ can cover it. A game like EU4 with mods would probably be able to cover it a lot better. I just feel like if we're comparing ancient cultures, I think Egypt, Greece, the Persians, well certainly certainly those are Mali, those are certainly civilizations that could have or did create big empires. Or like the Incans, the Mayans.

But then you have the Cree and I just think, I don't know if they did enough to really justify being one of the main tribes. What's now the US, they were probably pretty big, but you like- Right, but then in 1777 you have three eras. In relation to what was around at the time, it's not, you know, we look- So you have them in the ancient era and they will, you know, that's cool. And then in the second era, which I presume is like sort of the Middle Ages. Yeah, which they should still be doing the same stuff.

Yeah. And then in the modern era, what do we replace them with? America? Well, yeah, that's not really fair, is it? No, but I mean, historically, that's what happens. I mean, you like colonization of, you know, the new world occurs. And then they slowly decline, decline, decline and then, yeah, and then it's America and Canada.

I mean, essentially in the third era, they should just be completely fucked over by Europeans, is what I'm saying. Yeah, but you get to... You replace them and your entire civilization shrinks and you get to live on a reservation with a casino. Yes. That is the third era for the native tribes of America. Because to ignore that is to just whitewash history.

Well, I think that they're... The thing is there's room for every... They're all of this, right? They're trying to give you a sandbox to create your own history. I agree though, in a sense. I feel like in some In some cases, they have... They've been selective over... Again, it's a game, right? They want to milk down the road. And I feel like the process of this game is to take, deliberately take out parts of history, to sell them back to us later. I really just feel like the base game should have had the base fucking stuff in it. Like the core synths. Yeah, but people aren't gonna pay money for the Bugandans, because they don't know who they are.

So you put in those ones first, and then you sell them the big ones. You need a bundle pack. You need a bundle pack. The Bugandan bundle. The Bugandan bundle. Yeah. Well no, but that's how they do it though. That's how they get you.

Yeah, of course. Let me tell you, this is a complete change of subject again. This is, have you guys ever heard of Chang and Eng Bunker? No. Chang and Eng? No, never. They were the original Siamese twins. And I'm saying that obviously because they were from Siam.

They were Siamese, which is now Thai. Now we call them conjoined twins, okay? But the reason everybody calls them Siamese twins is because of these two guys who were very famous conjoined twins. And they were sort of taken around the world in the 19th century. Everybody studied them. They were, you know, considered absolutely fascinating. They went to America. They were in freak shows. Then they went independent and just traveled around themselves, just as Chang and Eng Bunker, chatting with people and, you know, showing themselves off and holding like... because people had nothing to do about that. There was no fucking mood.

So you just go and see Chang and Eng Bunker and chat to them. That was an evening. Right. Now, get this. They married Chang and Bunker married. They married two sisters, one each, obviously. These guys are conjoined at the sternum. So they're basically almost always facing each other a little bit. They're sort of turned towards each other. Their hips are almost touching.

They had 21 children between them. Wow. Chang had 10, Eng had 11. And apparently they both fancied one sister more than the other, but they obviously did some kind of deal. And one of them got one sister and one got the other. How are they, what's the logistics here? Because- No, no, no. You're joined with the sternum. You've got to have sex Because you're joining the sternum. You've got to have sex because you're making a lot of babies here.

And do they just line up? Do you get the two sisters to lie next to each other and you just both go at it at the same time? And there must be some kind of synchronization because of course you joined at the sternum. So you can't have one guy pumping while the other guy's withdrawing. You'd have to pump and sink. It's just one. It's just one of life's mysteries.

You know, it's not. I want to know steps. I want to know how did they do it? Literally, it's how did they knowledge? You don't need to know flax. Why do you need to know that fascinating because they had so many children. Their ancestors still meet up now. And if you look, there's this,

cause they settled in America. I think Alabama maybe? No, yeah, North Carolina. So they lived in the South, their children and their descendants and all the rest of it are still, you know, still going. So they have these big family meetups, the, the bunker offspring. I think that's fantastic. But I just stand. But logistically, you're not sure how they pulled it off. Yes. I'm just saying this is a great story, but I have questions. My curiosity extends to how the fuck did they did they do it?

And of course, they both died at the same time, which is very sad. But I mean, did they argue? Did they fight? Oh, guys got the left hand. You would have argued and fought all the time. I guess they just never get a break from each other either. It's constantly you don never get a break from each other either. You're just constantly, you don't get one minute, you know? Oh, actually, they do have separate arms.

So they're like complete bodies. I thought they might be sharing an arm and a leg like Ogre, Magi and Doha, but no. They've literally got arms, but their arm is permanently behind another person. God, how awkward. Yeah. I guess if it's all you'd ever known, you'd be fine. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah. Did they have two toilets next to each other? How long did they live for? How old were they when they died? I guess if it's all you'd ever known, you'd be fine with it. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah.

Did they have two toilets next to each other? How long did they live for? These are the questions that I would ask. How old were they when they died? 67! Geez, that is pretty good. Yeah, it's not bad. Sorry, 62.

62. That's good though. I mean, cause that's quite like a defect, you know? Usually something like that, people can live, but they just don't tend to live very long, you know? Like... ALICE Yeah, well according to Wikipedia, with modern technology, they could have easily been separated, but at the time, I think it would have probably

killed them. I think they had basically a... they were joined by like, at the sternum, and their livers were shared. That was the only thing. That's the issue. And so when one of them died, I think it wasn't, it was not long before the other one. It'd be awkward if it'd be awkward in that case if one of them died, but the other one lived on for like quite some time.

No, that would be terrible. And you're just sort of looking around. That would be fucking awful. I don't think it could happen though, because they are sharing so much. One of them did have a stroke and became partially paralysed and then became a heavy drinker. So if you're a heavy drinker, that must mean that your conjoined twin is feeling the effects, right? Like you'd have to. Yeah, I guess so. It's crazy to me. So they each have a brain, but each of their brains is controlling,

in some cases, the same body parts. How do the signals differentiate themselves? They're just on a different frequency or something. No, no, no. So I think they literally they're joined at the sternum. Somehow they share a liver. I'm not sure the mechanisms you can look it up, I'm sure. But all the signals from their brain go down their spine. They don't they don't have a fused spine. All right. So you're literally two completely independent bodies joined

at this one location right in the middle of their sternum. And they share a liver somehow. I don't know whether there's like, I have no idea how that works, but essentially they did share a liver. But yeah, that's crazy. So we think you could, you could eat and drink one of them. And the other one wouldn't benefit the way like a baby would. No. Yeah. But then their bloodstream must have met in some ways. Well, they would have to. They'd have to, right?

Interesting. Yeah. That's crazy. But if one of them was a heavy drinker and the other one was not, that implies that somehow they didn't have to share each other's drunk. One of them is like a fitness fanatic and the other one isn't. Other one. The other one is just a big couch potato. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you know, you'd be sitting there looking.

He's he's your twin and sort of face the other way. You're watching TV or something. You just don't fuck. I feel, you know, you'd be sitting there looking, he's, he's, you're, you're twin and sort of facing the other way. You're watching TV or something. You just don't fuck. I feel so drunk. What's happening. Are you drinking again? He's like, no, from a big bottle of whiskey. Kill you. Oh man. Yeah. What a life that would be. I mean, yeah, I guess, I guess like you said, you must just be used to it. You have no choice. You just have to, it's all you've ever known. But yeah, it must be so, um, crazy. Just what must be crazy. Just wake up every day and just think, Jesus Christ. Him again. Yeah. Not this guy again. It's been drinking again too. Stinks. Yeah. Really interesting. But yeah, Chang and Eng Bunker.

Chang and Eng Bunker. Yeah, it's a big, you can look it all up. It's a big Wikipedia, there's loads of articles and stories about it and stuff. Just fascinating. And especially for them to live in an era where, I think luckily they were treated quite nicely. People were genuinely fascinated. Well, as much as the freak show era of the time gave them, I mean, it's tricky, right? To judge these people and how they were treated at the time. I agree. But they did also then go solo.

So it was like they were in a band. It's like Michael Jackson broke away from the Jackson five and just did Michael Jackson. They were... Honestly, just good on them for having so many kids. Were they trying to make new Siamese twins or something? What was going on? Will they think that they'd be able to create some 21? That is a lot. I mean, there's no contraception and they were obviously apparently a couple of absolute shaggers. So, you know, they just ended up with babies. So uh, blues news today, we got Luis Moncada. This is an actor from Breaking Bad. He's one

of the hit men. Do you know who I speak of? One of the twins. Yeah. Yeah. I see him. Uh, he is, um, his stream is on Twitch now. I've, he's, he's started streaming on Twitch. You can check him out. He basically looks the same. He's playing like Scum and various other games where he basically is a tattooed gangster in game, going around shooting people with his mates. That's all. That's all I got. He's doing it. He's playing games that are quite appropriate though for his persona, which is fun. He's playing like GTA. So when's he going to transition into Minecraft or Hello Kitty Island adventure content? His name is Luis Moncada. Check him out. I'm looking at one of his featured clips from last month. It's called Splish Splash Poop. Splish Splash Poop. Yeah. Yeah. I'm watching it.

Yeah. There he plays. He plays some funky games. Look at these games. Wow. There he plays. He plays some, some funky games. Look at these games. Wow. This is nuts. He's like made his little, he is playing scum. That's crazy. What a game to choose. I know.

Who plays scum? Dude, he streamed for six and a half hours. What a beast. Jesus. Well, I normally stream for nine. So you stream for nine a So sometimes there is a immersive Minecraft experience happening in London. If you want to take your kids, it's cross rail too. You got to get down there and dig.

It's a Minecraft in real life is coming to Canada water, which I think is a very, yeah. Uh, you can get a ticket for £20 for children and you can walk around a Minecraft world with your kids. I know, uh, there are, it's guided by two unique characters, Tobin and Dayo, uh, and you will learn to use the orb of interaction, a glowing interactive handheld device that guides you between rooms. ALICE This sounds like a task from The Apprentice

that they have to set up an interactive, you know, alternate universe, whatever, something. MIGUEL I hope it's not going to be like that Willy Wonka experience. WILLY That's what I'm saying. It sounds to me more like one of these people turn up like people furious after paying families paid 20 pounds for Minecraft disaster. Yeah. In cult news, Jared Leto, he's the lead singer, I think of 30 seconds to Mars, I think, of 30 seconds to Mars, I think, as one of his side projects. He has just been taking a whole load of pictures with a load of fans who have all dressed up in whites and take

a load of pictures on this island. It is bizarre. Apparently he held a contest and the attendees who are primarily young women offer, and he, and in this contest he offered the winner a chance to spend the night with him. Oh hell yeah. Well like sexually or just getting in your jammies and hanging out and watching movies. He's certainly resembling a charismatic cult leader and it's bizarre. One of these pictures is great though. If you look at the second picture, P-Flax.

You have a guy with a Marvel t-shirt? There's a guy on the left with a Marvel t-shirt. I think they were all told to wear white for the day. He was like, oh, I'll break out the old Marvel t-shirt. And this is the only shirt that this guy could find that was white. He also is one of the only guys there. And he's sat on like this sort of camping chair that he looks like he's brought with him rather than on the floor.

Jared Leto is 53. Right. Right. I had no idea he was say, Jared Leto is 53. Right. Right. I had no idea he was older than me. I thought he was younger. He's 53! I can't believe that. The guy looks amazing.

I think he must be on a lot of young people's blood, this guy. I'll be honest with you, I think he's shit. I think he's an absolutely shit actor, and he makes wank movies. I'm trying to think of a good... He was alright in Blade Runner, but his character was meant to be a weirdo. Yeah, he's terrible. I don't know why he's so famous. I think he, yeah.

He has embraced the weird. And I think he is weird. He's a hot guy. And now he's a weird cult leader or something. But he's kind of done it ironically. Because this post, he's kind of almost joking that it's a cult. I don't know what's going on. But there's some interesting

pictures out there now and it's, it looks, the pictures look great, but it is creepy. Um, biohackers. Okay. What's that biohackers biologists, I guess. This is why, this is why Putin poops in a briefcase. He doesn't want to get biohacked. briefcase. He doesn't want to get biohacked.

He hated the guy who was in charge of clearing out the suitcase. You get, sir, guys, I lay a big fresh one in suitcase for you. Clean it up. Long coiling snakes, sir, guys. Big stinky snakes, sir, guys. Oh, sir, guys, I had big breakfast this morning. Big poop coming. Big, very, very, very big poop coming. Get your suitcase ready, you've been clean. Oh, stomach is churning, like bats in my stomach. It will be messy once I get it. I assure you. This is way less funnier than your thing. So we're not going to do that.

No, I want to hear it. I'm sorry. Did you see there was like a chance that didn't ask. Sometimes people, the astronomers put a warning out that there's going to be like an asteroid strike. We talked about this. Previously the 1% thing. Do you know what? I read about it and it's only like 30 to 40 meters, uh, wide. And I mean, the, it would be like a nuke, um,

hitting, hitting somewhere. It would be enormous. It would level us. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I could be worse is what I'm trying to say. It could be a lot worse. Did we talk about this last week when it turned out that the astronomers had put out a warning and it was actually just Elon Musk's car or whatever. No, I don't know if we talked about that. They'd rediscovered it and they were like, we found this object which is going to impact earth and it turned out it was just the car, um, floating

up there. Very stupid. But then there is an, there was routinely asteroids that could potentially hit earth. Yeah. They monitor it like loads of them. One point, one point five percent, I believe. A one point three percent chance of hitting earth. They upgraded it to one point five. About one in 67, they're saying. Something like that. Um, yeah. And you know, it's, so that means it's a 98% chance to miss.

So don't worry. I mean, also there's a very good chance. But if XCOM 2 has taught me anything, um, prepare yourselves. Yeah. I mean, I will say if it lands in the ocean, it's going to be quite the tsunami. So, uh, it's, it's quite scary. Yeah. Twenty, set your calendars for 2032. December 22nd, 2032 is when it will strike earth.

So, you know, make the most of... This Christmas. Well, it's got, there's been loads of near misses in the past. They're not, if you look back in history, there's been loads and loads and loads of them. And there's loads that are constantly monitoring as well. And they say the big thing is that when they detect one, they assign it a probability. But normally that changes because they have different agencies analyze the data and they come to an agreement and normally that percentage lowers as a result.

Do you think they adjust the... because obviously they look at it and they can track where it's moving and how fast it's going and stuff. But are they saying when they predict it, is it because it might get bumped by something else or they're not sure how the gravity will affect it? I'm amazed we don't have a computer model that can perfectly predict based on its trajectory. And, you know, I mean, we can plan missions to distant planets and time it just right so that the satellite hits this point of the orbit and then gets, you know, sped up to go with this angle to hit this other planet years down the line. Can we really not look at these rocks and go, that's where it is, that's where it's going, this is how fast it's going there, just run it. And it just goes, and shows it missing or hitting. Is it that difficult? I mean, I just think it's very small.

Jason Vale They can model it. They definitely can model it. And it's a long way away. Like that's the thing. It's so, it's like, they know it's there, but it's like getting precision is difficult because of it's- Right, but like I'm saying, they do this with other things. Where they'll like, plan trajectories for like, Voyager and stuff like that. Like unforeseen things can happen along the way, because it is so far away. That's what I'm saying. Is it their concern that we don't know what else is out there

that might have a very slight gravitational, because if something's like, travelling that far- Not really though, I think it's just that you're seeing this thing on a telescope and it's a dot and it's a dot that's moving towards you. And it's like, how fucking fast is that dot going and how exactly is it moving towards me? I think over time we can get more data, but like it's very hard to predict this stuff. We can see the proto galaxies from near the birth of the universe. Yeah, but these...

Like the technology exists, I'm just saying, what's the detail? It's only 130 feet, right? That's like, not very near. But it's really close! It's in our solar system! It's not that far away! It's millions of miles away! Yeah, but we can look at the surface of other planets and shit!

That are outside our solar system! It's wild to think that we can do at the surface of other planets and shit that are outside our solar system. It's wild to think that we can do all this stuff and still my local council can't pick up the recycling twice a week. Exactly. I'm sure we've got the technology to do it. I thought we were there. That's what I said.

I thought we were there. Right into explain to P-Flax how difficult it is. Why can't we do this yet? What's the problem? All right. Next article. I'm going to post this one in chat so you can read it, P-Flex, because I feel like you can just read it.

Excellent. Woman 25 faces jail after bombarding her boyfriend's ex with videos of her farting. Shop worker Rhiannon Evans, 25, of Mountain Street in Kennafen, Gwinnett, pleaded guilty to pursuing a course of conduct amounting to harassment. Prosecutors told magistrates in the town, how in Evan's first inappropriate video, she proceeds to pass gas by placing the camera on her bottom and passing the gas. Wait, so she's sending videos of herself farting to her boyfriend's ex. That's odd.

That's news. I mean, I think that's odd. That's news. I think that's fucking hilarious. The boyfriend's ex, she just moved on and she's just receiving these, you know, she's just trying to live her life and every day she just gets a new fart vid sent to her. Just send one back. Just send one back. She's already got the guy.

Why do you think she needs to gloat with the fart selfies? Because she's second. People are fucked up. Because this other girl got there first. She's second. She's resentful. Oh my God. She's like, um, she's like at the Andrew Tate of women.

Yeah. I don't understand. Something like that. All right, next. Uh, there you go. You can never read this one as well. New Zealand's mountain is now legally a person. A mountain in New Zealand is now legally recognised as a person after

being granted all the rights and responsibilities of a human by the government. The new law offers extra protection for Mount Taranaki, now known as Mr. Mount Taranaki. No, Taranaki Maunga. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, client will take the fence on that one. No comment. My client is doing a volcanic eruption, a pass gas that has caused inappropriate.

Yes. Hello, Tina. I'm outside the courtroom here today where we've been hearing the court case against Taranaki Manga or Mr. Taranaki Manga, as he's now known. He has remained stoic and silent in the witness box and the bill in cross-examination by the prosecution lawyers. And yeah, so far, very tight lipped trial here and very little to report from Mr. Mount Taranaki.

The evidence submitted today shows that Mr. Mount Taranaki has not ever paid social security even once. Boo! In the thousands and millions of years that he's been alive. That's crazy. Why have they done this? There's nothing better to do, I guess.

I guess because if you do that, then he's protected. The mountain is protected the same way a human being would be. So someone can't fuck with some future government that wants to repeal environmental laws or whatever, can't fuck with the mountain because it's technically a person. So they'd have to... And an immortal one at that. I think it's, according to the article, I think it's an agreement between the government and the indigenous Maori who've long considered the mountain to be one of their ancestors. But I think it's true that we've had this recognition of companies as people and things like this.

Which is dog shit. And corporate entities as people in order to get around certain rules. But I think that in this case, it seems like a cool idea as a way to protect nature and ensure that people behave themselves around it. Gotta ask for permission before kissing that mountain or whatever. Maybe you should do the same with the Blarney stone, because that's the sexual misconduct that goes on with that thing every day. Terrible. Who's asking the Blarney stone whether it wants to be kissed by fucking hundreds of people a day. No one. It's not okay.

Talk, please kill me. I don't want to be kissed by another American. Oh my God. We should get like, um, we should get, we should get these two together. They should be in a, like a, we should get like a dating app for, um, stone and Mount Taranaki? Get them together. Yeah. It's a bit of a size difference there, isn't it? Well, but, but you could get, you could, you could, you could get, the, what those big faces called, Mount Rushmore. Get them on the day now. Stick Mount Rushmore's face on Mount Taranaki. Mount Taranaki, Mount Tarerenaki gets some cosmetic surgery. He just gets a face. Wait, does that mean that the guys on Mount Rushmore, if we made them a person, they're

like a five man conjoined twin. Oh, sure. You can revive them with the, with the, with the purple goo from Ghostbusters too. Just play some really lively music and then just get all the Rushmore thing going. That'd be great. You'd need like a five man group of another natural monument, like the fingers or something. Just put them on top of the Arc de Triomphe and then they could be like Gumby legs with the Arc de Triompum. There you go.

Wait, the Easter Island statues. They've got faces. Oh yeah, let's get these dates going. Get a Sphinx in there as well. Oh my god, people love cat people, don't they? Are Sphinx's cats? Yeah, they're like cats. They look like a mix of like a cat.

It's a mythical creature with the head of a human, the body of a lion and the wings of an eagle. That doesn't sound like a mix of like a sort of like a mythical creature with the head of a human, the body of a lion and the wings of an eagle. That doesn't sound like a cat to me. Well, that's a body. The whole body's a cat. The body's a lion. That's not a cat. That type of cat is a big cat.

It's a big cat. But then what we ignoring the head of a human here? What about the head of a human? That's a person. The body of a horse, torso and the head and arms of a man or woman. But you wouldn't call it a horse. No, I suppose not. Oh, come on, ride my horse.

And someone wheels a fucking centaur out. You'd be like, whoa, I didn't agree to this. And what if you were like, if you were enslaving the centaur, though, and degrading it as well, you would call it a horse. You can't enslave the centaurs, they're too proud a race. They would fight to the last. On the fields of Shamsoth, the centaur tribe rides forth. We shall face the enslavers in battle with our allies.

The Sphinx, they're sort of like cats but not. And the faces of Mount Rushmore. But then the the enslavers are just up there on like their Imperial, you know, spaceship in orbit. And they're like, get those fucking horses into the mines. Get those fucking horses down there. I don't care if their hooves can't mine the coal. We get them in the fucking mines. They can just tap it really hard.

Oh, man, we've some deep lore has been invented today. Yeah. Oh, I guess that's it. That'll do. That's that's one podcast. We've covered it all one podcast. Ready to send off. We're ready to to ship it. Yeah, let's ship it. Ship it. Clip it. Ship it. Ship it.

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