Triforce! - Triforce! #4: On The Road

Episode Date: April 13, 2016

We take Triforce on the road! Lewis is visiting Sips so they're recording together from his garage.   Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Please play responsibly. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the Triforce podcast. This week, we're on the road, like real podcasts do. But actually, Lewis is visiting my garage this week in Jersey. By on the road, you mean off the road in the garage. The car has driven off the road. Don't spoil the image of the road cast.

Just let it sit. Let the road cast sit. I'm missing out. I'm still at home in what some people have confused for a prison or hospital bedroom because of the bed behind me, which does look like a prison or hospital issue bed. But no, it's my spare room. I never thought about it. But actually um now

come to think of it having seen some of your live streams and stuff it does look like you're in like uh like a nursing home bedroom or something yeah for special people yeah i am special old people who need extra care yeah it occurs to me now that maybe this bed is the only real thing in my life right and maybe this bed is the is actually real and all this stuff that i'm doing with the internet and having a wife and family is completely fabricated in my own mind and this bed is and people keep people pointing out that it's a fake you know that it's a hospital bed they're real and they're trying to point out to me look this, this is all fake. And I'm just like, no, this is real. I really do make stupid videos on the internet for a living. And yeah, this is my life. I'm not being held hostage, but please

send help quickly. My life is like the Truman Show and everybody's watching. But I don't know it. I don't know it yet. This hospital bed is my one anchor to reality and i i reject it i say no it's not real good god i need to have a lie down god lie down so much like much like the antiques road show um like i said we're on the road uh we don't have the usual recording setup so if there's like weird echoes or like uh technical problems um you just going to have to go somewhere with that. I think they should go straight to Reddit and post a scathing comment about it. I think so, yeah. I think one thing we learned from Reddit this week is that Pyrrion is apparently an idiot.

I'm the idiot. I'm like the idiot. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm known for. Stupid old P-flags. What an idiot. So out of the three of us you're the idiot no out of all of us out of the entire yogs cast i'm the idiot oh my god i'm the idiot one like that's

that's apparently and then people were like i thought that was your thing i was like i didn't even realize that was my thing i'm such an idiot that's quite the accomplishment i mean you're grouped in there with like idiots like terps and all of hat filmms. No, but wasn't there like the... Wasn't there like that classic trifecta of... Was it Larry, Curly and Moe or whatever? One of them was the idiot. One of them was the wise guy. And one of them was the... No, they were just saying...

Like it was a thread about what people think of the Yogscast. Like people and how they're... I can't even remember the context, actually. But someone said that the Reddit hive mind had decided that I was the idiot. It's not fair, is it? That's not really fair, yeah. It's not fair.

I mean, they have to give you a chance, right? What did people think about Lewis, for instance? They said he was an even bigger idiot. No, I don't know. They didn't say. That's great. That's what I wanted to hear. Oh, my gosh. That that may be my comment that i let me explain to you the the situation right now i'm sat in

sips's garage which i keep saying weirdly now because you say how do you pronounce it garage you want me to turn the heat on are you cold are you okay so it is chilly i'm sneezing okay a moment ago you guys hold the fort are you you going to turn the heating on? Yeah. Let me explain. So I came to see the garage earlier in the year, and it was a proper garage. It had oil, brown oil stains, sort of a stank of engine oil up here.

Oh, nice. It was one of these garages that looked too small to fit a car in, but somebody, when they built it, obviously they realized they only had a certain amount of land. And they really pushed it right to the boundaries of this property. It was built in the time when every English person owned only a Mini Cooper. That's right. And also, if you pull the Mini Cooper in here,

it's almost like you had to push your wing mirrors in before you drove it into the garage. Yeah, and then you had to park with the passenger side right up against the wall yeah and whoever was in the passenger side either had to get out before you drove in or they had to sort of carefully climb across to the other seat to get out and then even then when the even then when the driver was getting out he had to be careful not to scrape the door on the wall so yeah it's it's pretty it's pretty titchy but um it's really scrubbed up nice i mean in here now it used to have big brown sort of stains on the wall they're

still here um it's it's i i noticed it was there was a few patched up a few i'm looking at right now at a snail on the ceiling that kind of gives you a an idea of how cozy Sips has made this place. A mascot. You've got to have... I don't have any pets. All my pets have perished, so now this is my new one. There's some ants down there. You know, I mean, it's like... It doesn't feel like we're inside a professional recording studio. It feels like we're in a garage where Sips has glued some packing materials to the wall.

Yeah. And it's rough sound well is that is that what he's done i said to him yesterday it's a hundred times better than it was but it still needs a bit of tlc in here it sounds great like honestly i also said period you can probably um appreciate this you know i'm a dad yeah i got two kids yeah i don't have a lot of time on my hands yeah so when i get down and dirty and do something it's pretty half-assed yeah like it's not the crap it's not getting done a hundred percent like you have to weigh things up you have to prioritize you get pretty good at prioritizing yeah so really good all of these like things that you know your typical

millennial would start to complain about. Don't affect me because I'm a hardcore dad. So I'm just like, whatever, you know, a couple of brown stains. I can deal with that. Absolutely. A little snail who's... Do you even know what these brown stains are? That snail is totally dead.

What is, what are those brown stains over there? Stuck to the ceiling now. I don't know. It's like, I think it's like glue from the roof or something that's just like started to come through yeah but you know there's just like there's little things like that but i mean imagine having a workshop in your garage you know i'm actually looking at a picture um of fallout 4 right now you know like that iconic picture of the power armor sitting inside the garage looks a bit rusty there's a bit junk everywhere and stuff but still looks like a kind of cool place to live and work yeah my garage is not really like that but i like to think that it is like nice yeah it does remind me of that it reminds me of this sort of

area that you would have the garage door open and you you'd get a workbench there and you'd saw some stuff and you'd hammer some stuff together instead of the dog just put like a dead snail on the ceiling instead and you're halfway there suspicious stains it looks very alive to me or else it wouldn't still be stuck on there would it yeah um do you know what it comes down to is and i am the same way i'll half-arse any job in this house at the drop of not at the drop of a hat but maybe three days after you've dropped the hat i'll get around to it right so yeah yeah the point is this i i've already got a mate for life in my wife and we've got the kids and everything i don't need to impress anybody by having a spotless house with everything squared away and and i'm very timely you know you just accept me as the dad i am now not the dad you want me to be i tell my kids that daily when i disappoint them yeah me too this is what daddy is all right this is the daddy you've

got deal with that all right that's right that's exactly right my wife doesn't appreciate it but she should deal with this she should this is it deal with that I agree I get exactly where you're coming from but no it's a decent dad garage it does the job

for now I agree with Lewis maybe it could use like a little bit of extra work sort of thing but much like your old folks home

that you record from you know sometimes you just think fuck it I'm happy with this you know I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks

I'm happy with this cast iron bed frame with stains from where the last person died on it. Old ass toys on shelves behind me. Creepy clown. Frilly curtains that we don't want in the actual house anymore that we've just put in this room. This used to be the kids room. So there's a Rapunzel poster and a ballerina Barbie poster on the wall.

And my daughter said to me we really should the eyes have been scratched out oh god that's dark it's like some prison hospital kind of mental asylum shit yeah jesus so your daughter was telling you what she wanted the posters back yeah and i said well i'll get them later and she was like okay well get them later how long would it take to take the posters down off the wall they're not nailed on are they just blue tack but they're like the rusty nails won't come out of the eyes daddy okay so listen on the subject of dattery and you have two girls right so was was frozen like a big thing in your household was it persists it persists my friend it's crazy isn't it

i mean i've got a four-year-old son who has recently discovered the magic of frozen yeah but he knows that it's like kind of like a forbidden pleasure almost like he knows that he shouldn't really be you know he's not like the the target demographic right but he likes the songs and stuff and then and he sort of says like, I like Olaf. Like that's, that's my favorite guy. He's like the sort of like neutral,

cartoony, snowman guy. He's the worst character in the film. He's not funny. His song sucks. I hate, I hate the voice acting. I hate,

I don't know, my kids freaking love him. Who's, who's his favorite Star Wars character though? He's he's he he tends more towards bad guys right so he like he no well he hasn't seen force awakens because it's not out on i think it's out on blu-ray today actually i think it's released today like the day that we're recording this at least in the u.s i think it comes out today um so he'll finally get a chance to see it. I offered to take him to the movie theater,

but he said he was worried that it was going to be too loud and he didn't want to go. So I was like, okay, fine. He sounds a lot like my four-year-old. She's kind of like that as well. It's kind of sweet. He said, I'll wait for it to come on Netflix. So I said, okay, fine. That's cool.

We'll do that. So, yeah, so he likes Darth Vader a lot. You know, he walks around the house and pretends that he's Darth Vader. And when he's not pretending that he's Darth Vader, he likes to pretend that he's a stormtrooper. He really likes stormtroopers. He really likes Bowser from Mario more than like any of the other characters. Yeah. So, I don't know.

Like, does that mean he's going to be a serial killer when he grows up? Yep. Who knows? But, you know, I guess somebody's got to like the bad guy, right? Someone's got to like him. Someone's got to like him. I mean, they're cool, though. Darth Vader's pretty cool.

He is cool. He looks cool. He has a lot of cool lines. This is the other thing about the bad guys in the movies is everybody listens to the bad guy, right? You think about kids are used to nobody listening to them. Shut up. You can't have that. Just be quiet. them. Shut up. You can't have that. Just be quiet.

Go to your room. Do this. Do that. Darth Vader walks into the room and everybody's like, oh. So I think kids are role playing as someone with authority. I think it must be quite original. The heroes are always like some schmuck who lives in a barn and nobody cares about him. Definitely.

He was in here yesterday going through daddy's toys, right? Which are like your world which i was like i was sweating like stressing out you were really stressed that you were like oh well no better not touch daddy's like trying to deflect and everything anyway he's got he found like a thrall um out of world of warcraft and he was he was only interested in thrall if he was a bad guy basically so he's like is he a bad guy and we're like um and he was he was always like putting it down and then i said yeah yeah he's a bad guy he's a bad guy he was like oh i'm keeping it i'm taking it it's um it's just a bit strange yeah well no i mean it's

just the way just the stuff that he likes or whatever but you know i mean after that happened we went inside and lewis like threw him around the living room and almost broke his neck multiple times. So that was pretty cool too. I was just chucking him around. Just chucking him around. The kids, they bounce. They do bounce. They bounce so much.

Except for when they break their spines. He's very flexible. I was throwing him around much less hard than last time I was here with chucking him around. Because he was lighter last time, right? He was much lighter last time. He's grown a little bit since last time. He's like a foot taller. He's going to be taller than you soon.

Damn. It's been fun. Lewis has had a real insight into the world of dance and kids. Honestly, the insight is I'm sitting in the kitchen, okay? And your son just is like, oh, I need to poo. So he just grabs the potty, pulls his trousers down right in the middle, right in the middle of the kitchen,

like so proud. It's like, he's suddenly completely naked and I'm like, blah. So he just starts to poo and then I turn around and the baby is like basically naked as well because she's having a nappy change. I'm like caught between two naked children.

I've just arrived and I'm like, two naked children. I've just arrived. That's what kids do though. It is a culture shock thing. If you're not used to kids. I've been in the same boat where I have friends over who are not familiar with children and their ways. When your kid walks out

half naked with poop all over their butt crack it's like, I can't wipe my bottom. I'm just like all right problem to be solved no problem am i easy my friends i know how to deal with this one i've done this before barfing everywhere i know once you smell shit like couple hundred times you don't really care yeah who cares like whatever it's just a shit everybody's always like oh i have to change nappies you get you get you're a veteran after two weeks of changing nappies. To be a four-year-old, you can do it.

You can do it while you're asleep, pretty much. On the very small window shelf in the bathroom of a Chinese restaurant. That was the weirdest place I've ever changed. I think they might just be trolling us, though. Imagine if you could just take your trousers down anywhere. Imagine if you could get away with that. You can. We've lost that as a society. we've tried to become so civilized but there

was a time where people would just you know lift their loincloths and just you know poop in a lake or whatever yeah you get caught doing that now if you get caught doing that now forget it you're you're dead you're like not only are you like defecating in public, but you're also sort of like probably considered some sort of weird pervert or like some sort of pedophile or whatever because, you know, you did a poop somewhere. We've gone crazy. Be all over Twitter. Yeah, be on Reddit. People will be like Snapchatting each other about it. When I was living in Bournemouth, there was a homeless woman that lived in uh

westbourne which was the part of bournemouth i lived in and she would get very drunk by about two o'clock in the afternoon and walk around the the town just shouting at people and because it was a town like that part of bournemouth is mainly old people like i know that sounds stupid coming from someone in bournemouth but genuinely this was like old people central westbourne and she was walking around near waitrose and she was walking across by central Westbourne. And she was walking around near Waitrose. And she was walking across by the car park. And she just was shouting and screaming. She threw her bottle against the wall.

She was in her 60s. So it was quite shocking in itself. And then she just dropped. She was wearing these big heavy brown sort of trousers. They looked like they were made out of sack cloth. And she just squatted in the middle of the road and did a massive wee. And I must have been about 11 or 12 years old. And I was on myatted in the middle of the road and did a massive wee and i must have been about 11 or 12 years old and i was on my own on the way to the shop and i was absolutely

terrified at seeing an adult peeing in the street and shouting drunkenly i'd never seen anything like it so i think it's shocking to people that kind of shit like it it wrecks you though like that that kind of trauma when you witness something so out of the blue like that when you're young. Yeah. You know, like a couple of years down the line, it's like, today a man has been arrested and we found that he had the largest collection of golden shower pornographic material we've ever seen. It was the biggest haul for the Bournemouth Police Department ever. That'll be me. That'll be me. That'll be me. That'll be me.

Yeah. That'll be me. It was bizarre. It really was bizarre. It's amazing how sort of you slowly learn stuff that is wrong though, right? Because I wore my shoes in your lounge yesterday because I forgot something in there. So I went to grab it with my shoes on. And your son was just shocked.

It was like I'd done the most offensive thing ever. You know, he is fine just pulling his pants down and doing a poo right in front of me. But if I walk in the lounge with my shoes on. Yeah, he told on you too. I know he totally told on me. Don't tell mummy that I did that. And he was like, okay, I won't tell.

And then literally five minutes after you left. Yeah, he was like, Lewis was in the lounge with his shoes on. Oh, man. Kids are rats. They will rat at the drop of a fucking hat. I have to tell my kids constantly, don't rat on each other. They'll come up and say, she did this.

I'm like, don't rat on your sister. What kind of loyalty is that? What kind of family member? In this house, we don't rat on our family. We got the rule of om member in this house we don't write on our family we got the rule of omerta in this house you understand me you want to be sleeping with the fishes i don't want to sleep in the fish tank again daddy i did it two times daddy because my name is jenny two times oh man yeah well the thing is kids are like under constant threat though right it's like they're always torn between you know should i appeal to this person who threatens me constantly to have

like my toys taken away or that we're not gonna go get ice cream or whatever or should i side with the guy that comes over like once every six months throws me around uh gets offended by me shitting in the kitchen on my potty and whatever so yeah i mean i can see like the appeal of of ratting people out because you want you want to get on onto the good side of the people that's a good point yeah are like constantly sort of threatening to to you know you impact your quality of life. Louis C.K. does a bit about lying and when kids discover lying and try to tell them not to lie, but also like understanding that it is actually to them

of an incredibly valuable life skill. Like he says to his daughter, did you eat the chocolate? Where's all that chocolate? Did you eat it? And she's thinking, oh my God. And he was saying that to kids being in trouble with their parents is like the worst thing in the world it's it's it's terrifying to them so they just go no and you go okay then good girl and walk away and they think oh my god this is this power is unbelievable so my kids my youngest lies constantly now like the four-year-old there's. The seven-year-old not so much, but the four-year-old lies constantly because she's figuring it out.

I like that you've encouraged it, though. No, I just say to her, like... You seem to be very proud of the fact that she lies constantly. I got a liar. It's a liar, but it's very proud. She got a gold certificate at school. My daughter lies so well, you wouldn't believe. She can bluff like the best of them.

We took her to Vegas. They go through a bit of a phase, though. My four-year-old's the same. It's like it's innocent stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just really innocent stuff that they lie about. But because they're figuring out and testing boundaries and stuff like that. She's a horrible liar as well.

She'll go like, no, and turn her eyes to the side like a supervillain. Big smile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kids are like mini supervillains in a lot of ways, aren't they? But the most incompetent, least well-equipped supervillains that you've ever met. Well, I mean mean having watched the force

awakens i feel like kylo ren is like that i feel like i was gonna say before when we were talking about like you know darth vader the contrast between a bad guy like darth vader compared to somebody like kylo ren you know darth vader walks into a room says why isn't the death star built somebody starts like stuttering and jabbering on about how they didn't have enough resources boom that guy is choked to death he's dead you know if that was kylo ren kylo ren would have been like pacing around sweating like worrying and then like having like a little hissy fit you know doing some sort of like backflip to try to impress everybody and then crying because he doesn't like his dad and stuff and like i don't know maybe like kylo ren is the bad guy millennials deserve yeah he's the millennial bad

guy you're right a hundred percent i feel like i feel like he is a little bit yeah i mean i did enjoy the movie though i loved it i loved it i loved it i can't wait for my son to see it because he really likes like the the effects right like because Like because he's like a new age kid, you know? Like I tried to play Mario Maker with him and he doesn't like the old 8-bit Mario levels. He's like, Dad, put the better one on. You have to put like the fancy schmancy, you know, 32-bit Mario or whatever it is. Even though it's the same thing thing it's just like a 2d platformer mario yeah he just like is has better animations and and all that kind of

mario galaxy super mario galaxy no well i mean i got it but because i got it on the wii u we didn't have like a like an old school wii remote right so i went and bought that but then it didn't come with like the boxing thing. So like, man, it's just this long. I'm not kidding. That game, Super Mario Galaxy,

the first one, I actually finished that game. Like I very rarely do that. I thought it was a beautiful game. It was absolutely brilliant. And I think the kids will like it.

It is hard as balls but it's, actually it's not that hard but it's got some tough bits. You just want to play it yourself. Right. Sips. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, that's why you buy toys for your's got some tough bits. You just want to play it yourself. Right. Sips. Absolutely.

Yeah. I mean, that's why you buy toys for your kids, right? Pretty much. Like, hey, I bought you a new car, even though you're four. Mind if I drive it for a bit? I'll put you in a shotgun. Here you go. Yeah.

I bought you a bowling ball with my name on it. The thing is, it's a bit weird because you really want him to be into like mario but he doesn't really want to play mario he doesn't he wants to run around and be a dinosaur or whatever and so and then it's kind of strange dynamics i remember when i was a kid i was desperate to get like a n64 and play mario i was desperate that's all i wanted to do but he's not quite old enough yet to want to do that. So you're trying to like trick him into playing Mario. It's really weird.

It is, yeah. Because normally parents would be the opposite. They'd be like, no, no, no, stop playing Mario. Come on, let's go outside. But he wants to be outside. I'm going to be like

that overbearing sports dad but with video games. But maybe it's going to work, right? Maybe because it's always the way, right? Where you're going to want him to play video games so much that he's never going to play video games and he's going to have like a super productive life.

But I see it as a win-win, though. Because if he does get into video games, cool. You know, like we can hang out a lot together and play video games. Right, right. If he doesn't, cool. He'll probably amount to something. Yeah. You know?

So it's like either way. It like works out pretty good. Either way, it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. You can't control it. You can't. No. It's one of those things. It just happens yeah yeah you can't control it he can't no it's one of those things it just happens he likes it enough but he doesn't have games they love him

yeah he he if he plays a mario level and he dies straight away which like he inevitably does he's just like that's it i'm done dad you do it you you finish it like yeah they don't like the challenge my kids my eldest is just starting to get into minecraft after i bought that minecraft magazine hoping that would be the end of it like she could just read about it but then i put my because when i got the new machine i put the old machine downstairs as a sort of the house machine because no one's allowed to touch this one apart from me obviously so they're downstairs she's playing minecraft the other day and i said i want you to explore it yourself you've got your massive Minecraft book you've read like 20 times. You talk about it nonstop. Here's your chance. Just go nuts,

do whatever you want, play Minecraft. So she's playing it for like five minutes and she can't put this block down or something. And I can hear her getting angry. She's like punching the keyboard and she's like slapping the mouse down and she's like shaking the monitor. And I'm like, she may yet discover that gaming really is this frustrating but i i feel that no yeah that rage is actually to me that makes that lets me know that she's really engaging with the game like she's sure she wasn't playing dark souls uh three yeah that's how i it could have been worse though you could have gone down after five minutes and she's just like not playing minecraft she's just sitting there watching stampede instead oh god oh she's built a giant

wooden penis in minecraft like everybody does she's built like a massive cock i'm like what are you doing that's kind of that's kind of the first thing that you do in in any game yeah any sort of creative game right yeah that's pretty intuitive yeah that's my fear that's my fear. That's my greatest fear. I don't know what to say. All right, guys. Well, 25 minutes of dad chat is probably enough. Let's talk about games. Let's talk about what games... No, no, no.

I want to talk about stuff that's happened this week. What have you been up to this week? Have you done anything? Because it's been two weeks since we did a podcast, right? Oh, yeah, that's right. Last week we couldn't do one. We put out an archive. Some people were, like, complaining about it, like who cares shut up um if you don't like it i'm not with

these two guys i think you're good for you you've got opinions and they matter yeah and voice them as much as you like for you on all the social media i ever read uh so i went to a couple of events i went to insomnia I went to Gadget Show they were amazing I met loads and loads of fans oh yeah you didn't end up going to anything

to GP Flex because Inglatn was supposed to be yeah Inglatn was meant to be Easter weekend and then but it got cancelled

yeah problems with the sponsorship and everything and it had to fall through it was a real shame I didn't actually get to see any of Insomnia but I'm pretty sure

I know what it's what kind of stuff's there. Maybe you get to play on the HTC Vive or whatever. Have you guys mucked around with the Vive VR? Have we talked about that before on the podcast? I tried an Oculus Rift a couple of years ago. Right. I think I tried it at Insomnia, actually,

one of the Insomnia events, and I played Minecraft, and it was okay. I've used the Vive a lot. I've used the Vive a lot. I've used the Vive a lot. Because when I went to, when I was at TI4, they were just starting to develop it. And they were actually,

they were some way in, but it wasn't like a public project that they, they definitely weren't partnered with HTC at that point. And it was a guy called Doug Church, who is a gaming legend, I subsequently found out. I just knew him as Doug. But if you look up his credits,

he's like any good game over the last like 20 years, he's probably either knows the people involved or has had a hand in it. It's just a ridiculous legacy. And I was chatting to him. He's a really lovely guy. And he gave me a demo on the Vive. And this was before they had controllers and it was QR codes glued to the walls and everything like that. So it was kind of very basic. And then I was very excited even just then because I was like, this is going to be something unbelievable. Like I couldn't believe how good it was. And then I went back for TI5 and he was like, you got to come back and try the new model. I was like, okay, how much can it have changed? And it was like it is now. It's practically very similar to the release model with the

controllers, like prototype versions and everything. And it just had these little sensors and everything and it blew my mind. It was just so good. It's really good. So I saw a gif on Twitter of some dude. Wait, wait, wait. Let's just, it's gif. Come on. We're not a gif.

The guy who made it actually pronounced it as gif. It's graphical interchange interface format. So it's graphical. It's gif. He's wrong. Fuck that guy. He's wrong. He's GIF. He's wrong. Fuck that guy. He's wrong. He's trolling.

He just wanted to start some shit. The guy who trolled, though, he made it. I don't care. It's like saying wave or wav. Listen, if Notch came along and said to you, oh, it's actually pronounced Mahinecrafto, you wouldn't say, oh, yeah, I'm going to pronounce it Mahinecrafto from now on, would you?

Because he's a dick. Well, I just pronounce it the way I want to, i don't see why like i have no you don't you're pronouncing it the way that he told you to and yeah you're doing what he said you're that you're following the man well no actually this was something i found out after the fact like the first time i'd ever seen the um like hermione out of harry pot Hermione. Yeah. Hermione. How do you actually pronounce it? Hermione. Hermione.

And Hagrid. And Hagrid. That's right. They're the characters, aren't they? Have you ever watched any Harry Potter stuff, Beeflax? I believe it's pronounced Harry Pooter. That's the porn version. Harry Patootie, yeah.

I've watched it. I've watched them all. Mrs. F is a big fan. It's okay. I don't really... i can't believe you're referring to them as if as if the films were the things that you would have came first i can't believe you're talking about harry potter as if have you watched it it's not it was a series of books they were great books the films that don't do any justice mrs f read the books i didn't read the books i watched the films because i don't want to read kids books no offense the books are so good

the films are kids films the films are dumped down for the kids the books are kids books the books are great they're young adult books they're good the writing is huge in those books

I mean I've read parts of it and it's just not very well written like it's just I mean I did read them when I was younger but not that much younger what do you mean it's not well written it's fantastically written it's really

it's a modern masterpiece it's quite quite repetitious it's written in very modern english it's very well it's very it's a joy to read harry potter books and i suggest that you you read them is it jk rolling or jk rowling good question really i say jif you say gif let's all call her rowling let's all call the whole thing off ruling Ruling. Boop. So Insomnia was good. The HTC Vive is amazing. I went to the gadget show, which was full of crap. And I was telling Sips about some of it yesterday.

I actually got to go around and walk around the gadget show because we got there an hour early. So me and Shin walked around and looked at all the junk that people were selling. It was a lot of Wi-fi enabled household stuff right like wi-fi light bulbs wi-fi door locks and handles wi-fi balls for your cats yeah and and these cats can play with these balls and they're wi-fi enabled and you can attach any device to them so there's like this this this sort of a ball and it And the idea really was that I guess like when you're at work, you can measure how fit your cat is by how much he plays with the ball. As if there's not like visual indicators on how fit your cat is.

Like one, how fat they are. In general, who gives a fuck about a cat? How much they hate you. Even if you own a cat, if you're leaving him at home all day, clearly you don't give a shit about that cat in the first place. Like who fucking cares how much exercise he's getting? i guess if you've got if you've got your cat locked in i'm not a cat fan i'm not a cat owner i don't know anything but maybe look maybe we're giving this guy a lot of promotion maybe it's a great product you know the cat ball the eye the

eye fit cat ball it's the dumbest idea i've ever heard it's dumb idea it's a dumb idea thank you anyway and i saw there was loads of other crap on sale and it blew my mind like how many things to go ahead and buy it dumbest idea i've ever heard it's dumb idea it's a dumb idea thank you anyway and i saw there was loads of other crap on sale and it blew my mind like how many things to do with like apple watch charging case like a fancy leather case that charges your apple watch because you know you can't or you have to like have your arm like dangling out of your bed at night to like charge it or some bullshit man no offense to catball guy but he is like quite typically i think the guy that goes on dragon's den values his business at a million pounds first year and then duncan banneton gets really fucking mad at him and then peter jones gets like even more mad

at him and theo profetus like spits on him and stuff and then he's like well i just there's always and then the woman says i love cats i have 10 cats these cats would love this product this i'm in i'm gonna i'm gonna invest my cats love balls my cats love to play with balls they fucking love to play with balls oh my god so that the cat ball and there was all sorts of other crap like fitness there was all sorts of other crap, like fitness. There's all sorts of fitness crap. Because it's all about the Apple, not the Apple Watch, but the other fit bands, fitness bands, fitness fucking rings you can put on your cock and they measure how much sex you have.

How much thrust. It's ridiculous. Kilojoules of thrust you can produce. It was like there were a lot of exercise stuff for the chronically chronically lazy right yeah like there's a lot of stuff that's like you can get fit if you just stand on this ball make the perfect cup of coffee with wi-fi you guys you guys uh want to want to hear something about pets pets in the uk hang on one second though i was rudely interrupted actually about the whole gif gif thing i wanted to say about the htc vive i saw an animated image of a man sitting on like a subway with one of these vibes attached to his face um and it was hooked up to like a controller that

was on his phone or something and And he was like flailing around and like whipping his head all over the place. And there's people sitting next to him and it looked really antisocial. Like, is this what we have to look forward to? I'm afraid so. That's a good point. Honestly, I've been on my own in Jersey, okay?

For the last couple of nights. I'm so lonely. And I don't normally go to places on my own. So I'm not really quite very used to it. But I've been eating out and going to a couple of restaurants and stuff on my own. And it's quite astonishing to see how many people. So I went into this place and it was full up.

But there was a queue of people and there were like three people waiting in front of me. And they were all hunched over, looked like staring at their phones. And I looked around this place, this they were just everyone was just on their phones like like 40 50 year old people mostly like not not young people anymore it's just everyone was sucked into their phones and it was kind of the new norm so yeah i think that's what we're in for sips we're in for this world where everyone's walking around with visors on like you know

having like some sort of playing like almost almost like walking to work, right? Yeah. Will be this 3D game. It'll be like Mario, right? And so you'll be... You'll come out of your house. And people will be like collecting a coin. Ding!

Do you know what I mean? They'll be like fucking... It'll be somehow tied into like EVE Online. Like if you want to level up your new ability faster, you need to turn this app on before you start walking to work in virtual reality to speed it up. And then what will happen is initially, okay, it will be like the Wii Fit, right? Initially, everyone will be like, yeah, I'm going to get fit.

I'm going to run around and jump around and stuff. And they do all this stuff. And then slowly people learn that they can just like slouch back on their sofa and like waggle it like in their wrist or whatever and like and it'll it'll fake them fake them doing like a mile run you know so instead of doing a mile run for real they'll just be on the sofa like basically like wanking with the Wii controller man I'm a bit conscious now because like you know Lewis is over here visiting I don't want people to think I'm a bad host because he's so lonely and he has to go do stuff on his own.

No, no, no. The fact of the matter is that when he goes somewhere to eat dinner, right? Like I have two kids. That's like meltdown hour for me. From like about 5 o'clock until 10 o'clock at night. Like I have two kids to put to bed who really do not want to go to bed or do anything that I tell them to between those five hours. So it's like really hard to get out of the house and do stuff. No, I'm delighted to – I'm having a great time.

I'm not judging you. I'm not judging you, dude. I'm not complaining at all. No, you're not. But, yeah, I think that is the way we're going, right? It's going to be that people are just in their own little – it's already that way. You already see people walking down the street just being like,

hey, yeah, blah, blah, blah, just talking to themselves like some fucking nutcase yeah those are the words with their bluetooth headsets yeah and their eyes are like glazed over buy low sell high who the fuck are you yeah yeah make sure you talk to alice about that because she's she's bringing the cookies so make sure you talk to alice because otherwise we're not gonna have any cookies what are we gonna do without the cookies make sure you talk to janine. Remember? You know Janine over? Because Janine's going to bring the other thing, the plates. So if you've got, do you know what I mean? They're literally yelling as they walk down the road like some insane person. That's where we're going.

It's only going to get worse. It's going to be bad. Yeah. It's going to get bad. And people always think they can incentivize themselves to do stuff like get fit, right? Via doing some dumb shit. Well, this came about with the i don't know if you remember it's like we exercise you want to sit at home and play video games all

day now you can just flail around your living room with this workout pad that nobody fucking used yeah it's a little bit like the brain training on um the ios on the ds right i got that actually there's like absolutely no evidence whatsoever that it actually helps with anything. No. But they will say, you will get smarter

if you play this stupid puzzle game. It makes you feel like a fucking idiot. That's what it does. Every day, you subject yourself to that and you're like, fuck, I'm stupid.

Like, how come I can't do these puzzles? I don't think that's what it's supposed to do. I think it's supposed to make you feel like you know you're not wasting your time playing games but actually you totally are you know what do you know what i think it is i was actually thinking about this the other day about people and reality and i think that

most people don't believe that everything that's happening outside of their body is actually real right i think to most people the reason most people are very self-centered is because to them if you think about it reality is a very confusing and weird place you're 100% correct stuff is just happening you don't have much control over it and for throughout history people have seen stuff and just gone like what the fuck is that and they come up with an explanation for it in their head that makes no sense. Like chemtrails, for instance, or there's a weird noise in the sky,

so it's some kind of government project, or they're putting stuff in the water. This is people's, the world is flat, it's all a lie. You know, nobody believes anything. And the reason for that is because they all think that their reality is the only one true reality. So escaping from this false reality we live in to a virtual reality where you can shape it you can do whatever you want it's just you understand

it it's got simple rules you can actually do well in it people are going to be all over that i think that i think they're really good example that is driving right when you get in when you get into a car and you start driving it feels like you're playing to me it feels sometimes like i'm playing a video game yeah you sort of get really detached from the fact that you're driving around a one ton hunk of metal yeah it's basically like a cruise missile that is powered by like million year old dead dinosaur yeah it is probably the weirdest thing that we let everybody do yeah and it's and it is it is incredibly i mean dangerous really when you think about how people how blase people are about it but even worse is now games like gta5 and stuff

like that you you know sometimes i get into my car and i'm like driving along i'm like fuck i would love to just like bash into those trash cans i know i shouldn't but like i've done it so many times in the game that i'm like i wonder if anyone would even notice like maybe it would be like one of those things you know like the time like um father ted kicked bishop brennan up the arse you know like he was not he was so shocked he was so shocked he was in denial yeah he was in denial for the longest time and i feel like if i ran over somebody's trash cans uh with my car just sent like paper and stuff flying everywhere listening to like some west coast classics at the same time that would be fine you know i'd probably get away with it but

i'd feel bad i got it i got in big trouble for trying to do stunt jumps over the bridges around twickenham it's just doesn't doesn't work out well in your like family kind of like big old no not the guy off his moped just grabbed it I was off over the bridge leaping over you know because there's a ramp and if you catch it just right

you can clear the river and smash into a cafe but it's cool you just respawn that's what I thought anyway but it doesn't work out I played a lot are we talking about real life

what when did you knock a guy off the moped was that in the game it's just GTA oh thank god yeah it's alright that's what you're talking about there's such targets like guys on motorcycles What? When did you knock a guy off the moped? Was that in the game? It's just GTA. Oh, thank God. Yeah, it's all right. That's what you're talking about. There's such targets.

I was implying that reality in GTA V, you see, it was not a clever joke. They are blending together a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. It's all right. I got it. We got it.

You got it? Yeah. Nobody enjoyed it. Like, that's the worst. It was an internal satisfactory chuckle okay i didn't project if you make a joke that nobody gets don't worry but you can at least feel superior but if you make a joke that people get and it's just not good that's even worse than one that people don't get if they get it and they're like yeah we we got it you're like oh shit

i want to talk about it i want to talk about my it. No, I want to talk about it. I want to talk about my failure, Lewis. I want to talk about it. You want to address that. Don't worry. We're here for you. This is the case. You know, we always, you know, this is why they record QI and these panel shows for like three hours. And then we cut it down to half an hour because not all of the jokes work.

And then everyone laughs at the person who made the terrible joke. I've made a couple of stinkers in my time that I'm not proud of. No. It happens. They don't work. Anyway, I was looking at this exercise thing, right? And it reminded me of those things from the 50s when a woman had like a white strip, a rubber strip that would go around their waist and it would jiggle them.

And they would stand there while that thing would – Yeah, yeah. I can't remember what it was called. Probably like the vibrating belt, the vibro belt. That's right. And it will, you know, watch the pounds. Dr. Ripley's fantastical, amazing jiggler belt. The jiggle belt.

Just 10 minutes on the jiggle belt a day and you could lose this much weight. Look at our model here. She used a jiggle belt every day for only three weeks. And look, she's a supermodel now. Look at her perky tits. You could have tits like this if you used a jiggle belt. And it's bollocks. Do you know what they called that machine in the 50s?

Have you found it? Yeah, the vibrating belt machine. They didn't understand how to brand things in those days. No, they didn't. The vibrating belt machine. The jiggle-o.olo yeah that's what they should have called it so i saw the um so they basically had one of them but you stood on it and it jiggled you and it was the dumbest shit ever now again maybe maybe this thing is the next

biggest thing and maybe everyone's gonna be watching tv in their lounge like standing on the jiggle plat the jiggle platform no we've moved past that though now we're already past the jiggle because we had the we exercise thing and now it'll be the htc vive because it'll be like game of thrones htc vive edition now you can be sir john snow and wield whatever his stupid sword's name was and kill everybody in your living room yeah oh i'd play the hell out of that though yeah that's what it'll be and then it'll be a bunch of people who are like i did three hours of sir john snow battles the ice monsters last night and i burnt off 500 calories and i could now have a bad snickers bar that i always Now I can award myself with my seventh can of Coke today.

That's what it'll be like. And then it'll die out instantly because nobody wants to fucking do that. Because, again, people will just figure out some way to lay on their couch and twiddle a finger or something to make Sir John snow do his like uppercut attack or whatever and chain uppercut attack their way through the game and then move on i quite like the idea of and this is is this the thing with dota that they were doing pflex with revive where basically you can sit in like an arena of spectators with other people and watch a game like on a big screen well that was what um when when i was talking to them about it at ti5 and they were saying they were going to do the the vr um uh spectating mode for dota 2 they implied that

you would be able to see your friends and you would be looking at the whole map but instead if you look at the release video for the vibe that was up the other day they showed it and it's more like you're sitting there and you're looking at a virtual screen. It's bigger than a screen you'd have in your house. So it's like a widescreen TV, like a big TV. And then you watch the game on that and then you look around you and there's various assets like data. So you can look at stats

and you can look at this and the other and you can look at chat and everything. So there's all kinds of add-ons around you that you wouldn't normally have. I see. So I think that's what they're going for. So rather than just watching it on the screen you have a three you can use your head to to provide you with more info right up above it's

like oh there's the net worth and over on the right it's like oh there's exactly i get the appeal but i don't want to be the guy sitting in the room like ray charlesing it all over the place with my head this This thing on. And like people walk in like, what the fuck is this guy doing? Like what's wrong with them? And I'm just like trying to watch a game of Dota. It's embarrassing enough being caught playing video games anyway.

I guess it is particularly bad when, especially if they walk in and you're playing like anime love sex simulator. I was trying to the achievement on gta5 for going to the strip club like 100 times or whatever and like oftentimes i had to turn my tv off like if somebody came in the room it's kind of embarrassing yeah it's embarrassing yeah and you know if you've got the groinal attachment on and you're you know banging away yeah on hentai tentacle tentacle sim 66, seven X, X, XL, uh,

diamond edition, diamond edition with all of the DLC on red. I got, yeah. And, uh, and you know, someone just films you and puts it on the YouTube. Yeah.

There's a video of a guy having sex with a, there's a new flashlight that you just strap on and it's, that's right. I saw that. Yeah. It's like a suit. Yeah. He's like full body suit body suit he's lying on the floor it's got fake boobies and i think the harder you massage the boobies the faster the fleshlight goes but does it matter what it looks like if you've got a mask if you're if you're seeing it in virtual reality anyway it

doesn't know that and that's the thing this guy's laying down with like a vive on um with like a you know like a climax face just like fond, you know, like a climax face. Just like fondling these big boobies and with his flesh like pounding away on his junk. And he's looking at anime. And it's like, well, that's great. You know, we finally, we've arrived. We're here in the 21st century. All we need now is for your computer to emit smells.

So like, you know, for people who like to have like a little fart in their face or whatever. Yeah. Big in Brazil, that seems to be. All we need, right, is a machine which will fart in your face. Daddy's computer is farting again. And then we're basically at Star Trek. You know, we're in the future there. Pretty much, yeah.

Computer, computer, Earl Grey hot, and please fart in my face as well. That's a more realistic version of what he would be doing in his spare time in the future. Definitely. He would go back to his cabin. He would be thinking all day, oh, God, I've spent the whole day exploring the galaxy. I really need someone to fart on my face.

Quickly, I must go back to my cabin and sleep now. was the thing though wasn't it like deanna troy please leave me alone in my quarters i uh computer fart in my face in three two one i'm ready i need to go and practice that funny penny whistle that I've got. So do you remember he had that little whistle he was trying to play? Oh, that was a really, really good story, though. A space flute. A space flute. But I think he would say, like, if you hear strange tooting noises Coming from my ready room It's the space flute

It's the my space flute But they could Totally prank other people on board It's like computer please fart at data's face In 3, 2, 1 Captain I am experiencing Such a strange sensation It's almost like disgust that was so

eggy my skin is going pruney and i feel like maybe i'm about to die computer what have you been eating for goodness sake do you reckon because data could that. Like if the captain said to him, Data, I have an unusual request. My farting machine is broken and Daddy needs to get his fart on. So if you could just kneel on my desk, I'll sit in my chair. Mr. Data, fart in my face.

You get a little head turn that he does. I find this request unusual, Captain. Shut up, Data. It's an order. Make with the farty fart, Data. Captain's orders. That's what would happen, I think. You will fart in my face, Data, or I will have to relieve you of duty.

Now, Data, we're not going to tell Worf about this, are we? Worf would not like to hear that his captain is into farting. Captain, I will not follow a fart lover into battle. Oh my God. Man, I love having next generation conversations because the thing that I do after every next generation conversation is watch those fucking edits on YouTube.

Oh, they're so good. They're so good. They're so fucking funny. I was trying to put the baby to bed the other night whilst washing them and my wife got so mad. you were just giggling away i was just like you know like when you're not supposed to be laughing but you're laughing really fucking hard yeah it was like that like when you're at school you're laughing and crying and the baby's laughing and farting yeah it's just pretty good i i get uh i've been playing rust a lot like i was saying

to you guys before we started and the problem is that that game makes me laugh way too much so mrs f goes to bed about 10 30 and i'm up to one playing rust and just laughing my ass off and she keeps like there's that moment i'm playing i'm like tears and i'm like you know tears on my face i'm like ah smash his head with a rock and i look to my right and the door's open and mrs f is there just scowling at me and i'm like oh yeah i'm sorry you know and then it sucks all the joy out of you like like some sort of energy vampire just comes in it's like oh no it's it's the worst you feel super guilty yeah i've i've been there oh man hasn't right who has from from like the ultimate happy high to like the like suddenly crushing low the The highs of video games to the lows of married life. That's that.

The two don't mix very well together, that's for sure. I tell you what, if I didn't make any money out of this whole shebang, then she would have smashed my computer pieces long ago. Long, long ago. I've had threats and everything in the past. That's the ultimate argument Settler actually. She'll say, I'll unplug the internet. And I'm like threats and everything in the past. That's the ultimate argument, Settler, actually. She'll say, I'll unplug the internet. And I'm like, okay, whatever you want.

She's like, I'll take your power cable away and I'll hide it. And I'm like, all right, yeah, whatever you need. I'll fix the solar panels, I promise. Don't hurt the baby, please. Yeah, pretty much. That's what my mom used to do. Just, you know, when I was a kid, she would, if I was playing games for too long, she'd just take important cables away.

Yeah. And I had to learn to like MacGyver my way back to like get the computer working again without all the relevant leads, you know. Without a mouse, I learned to use like keyboard commands for everything. Wow. So I could just basically navigate my way through Windows

and everything with only the keyboard you know because my mom didn't realize that if you if you went you know control escape p like shortcut your tab tab tab shortcut your way through everything like find the exe files to play like you know a game that doesn't require a mouse fucking bobby digital down there like haha who's gonna have the last laugh today mother ha ha ha control p escape that's right i'm in i'm hacking doth mother what do you think of this but it was so satisfying to do that though and it's useful today because i know all the keyboard commands it's good yeah it's nice to know keyboard by the way keyboard command tip for anybody out there

control shift t will open the most recent tab that you closed in Chrome. How about that? Very helpful. So if someone comes in, you can quickly close that tab. And then Control-Shift-T that mother. And then as soon as they've gone again, you can Control-Shift-T. Control-Shift-T. Okay, I'm going to throw caution to the wild.

Let's see what opens up in mine, Lewis. If it is like midget filth or something, I apologize, but... It is disgusting. Oh my goodness. It's a Google search. Pay my taxes online. It's a pay my taxes online tab.

I'm a dad. I'll let you off. I'm a dad. I'll let you off. Anyway. So, well, we started talking about gaming and we didn't really mean to. You've been playing Rust.

Do you want to talk about Rust a bit? I would love to talk about Rust. It is my new jam. I love this game. It's a pretty old jam. It's an old jam, isn't it? Right, but I played it at release and it was garbage. It had zombies and it was just terrible and it was a really stupid game.

And the version that they've got now is amazing. Absolutely fucking amazing and i love lots of nudity in it now apparently there's always been nudity in it i know but and now it's very graphic like dongers and everything yeah they're running around i mean it's quite funny if you're running after someone they jump over a rock you get you get an unpleasant shot of their taint i'll tell you what it's like it's like it's realistic you know what i mean you really have another look at a man's balls jiggling around while you're trying to kill him with a spear but it's brilliant it's absolutely brilliant it's just so funny rust is one of those games i think where it it'll it'll benefit from

having these sort of like um people picking it up again after a while really enjoying the new features and then getting their friends back into it and stuff and it'll probably sell like more copies off the back of that maybe but it does suffer from that thing where it was like rust came out like two years ago it'll never have that big like we're releasing you know we're ready we're done the game sort of thing it'll never have that big release again where it could be popular a little bit like gary's mod it'll just continue to tick over and that's the same it's made by the same guy. Yeah, yeah.

And it's kind of, you know, they do continue to update it and improve it. And it keeps doing well. It's a clever game. It's thoughtful. You know, they don't just throw it out there and make the cash and then make a new game and make the cash. You know, they do. I like the way it has changed and evolved and become good. You know, because it was in the Christmas. It was in our first Christmas bundle like a couple of years back become good because it was in our first Christmas bundle

a couple of years back and then it was in last year's bundle and I think it's been in the bundle for the last three years maybe I played it when it was released and it had the zombies and I liked it back then so I probably still will like it but you're a huge DayZ fan

anyway Pflates I am and I'm not, I'll go back to it and I'll be all over it, but then I'll remember the crushing lack of fun that there is for 99% of playing that game. And then the absolutely petrifying moments of terror that are meant to be fun, but in fact are not. And the game is so buggy. Like Rust, you can get guns in Rust in a couple of hours.

And that's good because you want to have fun. Like last night I was playing it with Monticus and all of a sudden there's like 20 people in the Discord. They're like, let's play, let's play, let's play. So we're all running around the island trying to meet up. Everyone's got their stupid stories of trouble they've had getting there. And then we met this guy who really knew what he was doing. And he was like, yep, I'll build a house.

And I'm like, okay, let's get him some wood. We get a load of wood for him. And we're all going around it's like 10 people harvesting wood so we just like harvest the entire area around our house in like no time come back and he's built this mansion for us and we've got little we've each got a box with a sign over it saying whose box it is we've all got sleeping bags we've got furnaces going we've got like a production team we've got like a gathering team we've got the combat team and we keep getting attacked these guys were attacking last night with rocket launchers and then because we withstood them i'd logged off they waited till we logged off and then attacked

with rockets didn't didn't manage to get inside but they came and gave us a load of stuff because they were like here have some stuff it's cool and but we're still having a fight so they'll attack in like twos and threes and we'll run out with spears and bows and arrows and like hunt them down it's brilliant it's absolutely brilliant we've all got the same the same hat so we know who's on whose side but it's just better that's pretty cool yeah it's just absolutely how many people per server now has that changed at all some of the servers you can have like 300 people so with the one we were on was slightly smaller we went on we were on rustified, which is about 180 people maximum. But that's a lot of people.

And every week, the server completely wipes. So you forget everything. You have to find blueprints, and you remember the blueprints. And even if you die, for the remainder of that server lifetime, which is about a week, you'll know how to make an AK

or you'll know how to make wooden pants or whatever. So when they wipe, you forget everything. Everybody starts from scratch. Because as the time goes on people have built these massive castles that are covered in barbed wire and bombs and you can't get in and they just snipe people from their sniper tower so once that all gets wiped everyone's back to the square one you have to you know it'll just be it'll be madness so that resets today and we're really looking forward to it but um that's cool yeah that's that's that sounds like we should join you you 100 should it is the funniest shit i'm this i'm not pimping my channel in any way but i put out a rust video a couple days ago that

was brilliant in my opinion it was one of the funniest streams i've ever done and i've got the second one it ready to render and it was just as funny it's just it's just so much stupid shit happens i'm very happy like it's the first it's the first game sorry go ahead no it's great when you pick up a game and you genuinely just have a ton of fun with it isn't it like like so many games come out now and you think that like they're going to be fun or you're expecting to have fun playing them but it's it's nice when something like genuinely delights you yeah like honestly like i've streamed a ton of games and i made videos for a bunch of games and sometimes the game's sort of okay well the content is all right but this was just like this is one of the best streams that i've done like in terms

of how much i enjoyed it i was just i was just i would completely forgot what time it was i was just like oh shit it's 1am guys i've got to stop there's like six hours of streaming this game just running around naked like when you throw a spear and catch someone in the back of the head and kill them and then they're rolling around the ground going ah and you finish them off you finish them off with a rock and then you harvest their body and eat their their flesh and then you can you can make their bones into weapons and stuff it's just it's insane it's absolutely can you can you eat their dead dicks because i would like to be known on a server as like oh shit it's the dead dick eater watch out everybody the dick eater is on the loose your dicks gonna eat your dead dicks oh my god you can yeah yeah that sounds so fucking bad it's amazing it's just brilliant i'd love that but but normally like the bigger clans or whatever

haven't got as many people as we have. Like everyone on the stream that's got the game that's a sub, we're just getting them in on the Discord and we're just running around as a pack. We're like, right lads, raiding parties. Everybody arms up.

We've all got random armor on. Like I've got armor that is made from a road sign and I've got like Wellington boots on and a hoodie and you can get a blue bucket hat with the front missing with so you can run around with a bucket on your head and we're all just running around like a

bunch of mad max sort of car stuffs uh looking for trouble it's incredible it's absolutely incredible that sounds really fun it's great i gotta pick that up you should you should it's completely changed it is a ton of i immediately thought i immediately thought of how much you guys would enjoy it is so much fun so what have you been playing this week, Sips? What have you been doing? It's a weird one. I've been playing the new Orcs Must Die, which is a little bit,

it's hit and miss with a lot of people. Like if you played the original Orcs Must Die games, like one and two, there was multiplayer in the second one, but they were predominantly single-player games and geared up around this like single player experience. You had these levels that you played, you put traps down, you killed lots of orcs

and you progress through like a story and stuff. So what they've done with the game now is they've, they've sort of kept some of that in its own mode, but they've tried to introduce this. It's like almost like a MOBA mode. So it's like a 5v5 sort of, it's like almost like a like a moba mode so it's like a 5v5 um sort of um it's like smite so like it's third person it's it's it's nice enough to look at graphics and stuff are pretty good and the idea is that you um you spawn minions so you spawn your own orcs and

ogres and whatever uh from these portals uh and they work as your creeps you you follow the waves of creeps up um and and push on like the enemy's rift or whatever you buff your creeps there's all these like little mechanics thrown in and stuff there's roles so you can either choose to defend or attack or you know there's like a almost like a jungling role and it it's good. I've enjoyed it. I've been playing it like most of the weekend and then a little bit this week. And it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. And I think a lot of people have been really dismissive of it,

thinking that it's not like the original game, so it's going to be garbage. Free-to-play MOBAs are generally pretty hit and miss, unless you're like playing the big ones or whatever and i i would say give it a chance i don't think it's a terrible game well i don't think it's the best game either we did a one shot right yeah on it me and you played it on the main channel and then we've done i did a couple more videos on double dragon after that um i think as of this recording they haven't gone out yet but i think they're going out

or i've been going out the last couple of days and so for me the game well i think one of the last things i said was it felt like felt that the team what they've done is they said hey look we've made oxmox die 2 it was good um let's make it into a moba because we can i think i thought it's really good it is for it and they did and then they've thought well how are we going to release this it's now a moba what do we do we need to find a publisher who will publish it like a moba and that's what they did and so i think that they intended for it to be a moba and this fun thing and then they went down this slippery slope and before they knew it they were basically putting the whole league of legends interface in with all the free to play stuff all the hero picking and they thought well look we've

probably tested this mode we've made the mode we've played the 5v5 it doesn't quite work what we're going to do okay what we're going to have to do is we're going to have to make different roles, right? So we're going to have to have attackers, defenders, and basically junglers, right? So one person on each team of five is a League of Legends-style jungler who literally spends his entire time

fucking running around the map killing crates. Yeah. Which is the worst role ever, by the way. It's so boring. Well, you gank too. Like, generally, the guy who's jungling is a strong sort of a ganker that's true so you if you have a stealthy character while you're not collecting boxes you can be ganking yeah or you could like one-on-one people that you know one-on-one

their their jungler there's like a big there's there's neutral objectives so like sometimes certain maps they'll have like a place that you need to capture to spawn like a boss minion yeah and so for example you have to kill a big creature but because you're a jungler you got a bit of life steel you can usually kill that thing on your own kind of thing and then it summons this big minion like here's the storm style it goes along your fucking creep wave and you know you push with it it's it do you know what i i i enjoyed it for a couple of games and then like every moba i found it quite repetitive um and i didn't really get any pleasure out of it I guess

but then again I enjoyed it for a few hours I guess I guess I'm not really happy to pay 300 quid for a 30 quid game

or to spend 150 hours in it to unlock everything because it felt like I played I ended up playing about 10 to 15 games and I'd unlocked

fuck all I think I maybe unlocked like one extra games and I'd unlocked fuck all I think I maybe unlocked like one extra trap and I thought like I thought kind of kind of fuck that you know if I've played this game for like hundreds of hours you know well not hundreds of hours but but if I've played the game for like 20 hours at least I should have been able to unlock one hero or one hero skin or something but it felt like it felt like it was just really stingy but it's maybe that's the current balance it's a hard sell for them to get somebody with 5 000 hours of dota 2 and hundreds of pounds spent on cosmetics and chests and stuff to say hey you know forget all that you know come

and get involved in this game exclusively for like some time sort of thing i don't think they're going to win anyone over with the game i think people i speak to are in league of legends are very very invested in the game they put so many hundreds of pounds in the game that they're never leaving yeah that sunk costs fallacy thing means that they're there they feel like they would never want to start investing any any money exactly and it's the same thing with world of warcraft characters right people have got so much investment in their world of warcraft characters and accounts things so one of the things the news i read today unrelated was that the classic server the nostalgia server world of warcraft vanilla yeah has been given a cease and desist order by activision blizzard and it's going

to be shut down yeah and this was a team that had worked very very hard to replicate the vanilla experience and a lot of the people in the thread but who were talking about it was very very sad that it got shut down a lot of them were saying i actually never started because i didn't want to get attached to a character and then have it never never be able to come back to it so people do get very very attached to their accounts the characters and i think when a new game comes along that you can't transfer across your stuff to you know it's one of the reasons that league of legends has had such a longevity it's because those people who got started in the beginning have put hundreds of pounds into the game because you do have to pay that to even

fucking play the game you don't at least they never play you can you can play that game there's nothing there's nothing that you buy in that game that gives you an edge it's all heroes though having to pay for heroes yeah but even then you can grind them up like you know if you're if you're willing to it's like here's the storm you can buy them straight up or you can grind them up and i i would say that most people probably grind them up because with a player base of like 30 million or whatever it is you know there's going to be a lot of people in there with without disposable income i will just say this sips they do make a billion dollars a year yeah they do but i don't think that that necessarily means everybody playing the game has to spend money on it there's there's always going to be people who

spend nothing i think psychologically it's a very insidious business model though and it seems that free-to-play games have become this very i think they're very i think you know league of legends and dota the most expensive free-to-play games we've ever played you know we end up spending hundreds of pounds more than we would have done for buying a full price game and i think that i think that it is a very very cynical business model that that's been adopted by so many people because it makes so much money yeah candy crush all these free-to-play ios games that you know have in-app purchases which are just you end up spending so much it

gets out of control it's it's psychologically quite sneaky and i i think yeah and the way it makes you spend money it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking like i'm just gonna buy this one thing because you know like i've played enough this game now you know i want to get something and then before you know it it's like you know those justifications are fine people justify it they say oh you know i've got a lot of fun out this game i don't mind putting 20 quid in i don't mind putting 30 quid in yeah but it ends up being a lot more than that i think like when you look at the amount of money i've spent on let's say hearthstone versus world of warcraft right i have i spend fucking like 60 70 quid on packs every expansion on hearthstone you know i've probably spent more money on hearthstone than i've ever

spent in 10 years of world of warcraft subscription and that's you know a long lot of fucking money but even world of warcraft's got cosmetics and stuff that you can buy like now you can even buy all the old transmogs you know like you can buy like the flaming crown i mean the cash shop in world of warcraft was only a matter of time because all the other mmos have kind of taken that on as their entire business i mean i also think like companies want to move away from that subscription model because for some reason people would rather have that choice even if they end up spending more. And I honestly think if you're calling it a sort of deceptive or

tricky or cynical or whatever. Right, but that's the thing. If a new game came along that said we're going to be the next World of Warcraft, it's a subscription model. People would say, oh, no way. It's been tried and tested and failed and failed.

The fact is that World of Warcraft was subscription and will always be subscription because they can get away with it. Because people have got that investment in their account. Right, right. It's not going away. It's a bit crazy to think, though, that it's subscription-based plus you have to pay for the expansions. Yeah, that is crazy.

There's enough value. You get enough value from it as if it was a full game because the expansions are big they charge it because they can charge yeah that's it you know and it's their business model it's always been there they were the first they're gonna that they're that's just how it is i think that when you're having to compete with something which is that you have to give a but you have to offer better i think you know when you look at things like guild wars 2 or recently the black desert online which sold i think 400 000 copies in its first month which is a lot so it's a it's a korean mmo i haven't played it i've heard a lot of people talking about it and saying hey you should play this it sold 400 000 copies in the west but it's a one-time purchase

right so no subscription i'm assuming there's probably like in-app shit or free to play bollocks in there but as far as i'm concerned you buy the game one time you get the game uh i i think that a lot of people these days are surprisingly unwilling to even pay that 40 quid up front i got it you know this is what we're talking about here and i played it for five minutes lewis exactly and so you i mean so you really have had a bad experience there but buying a game outright do you know what i mean so would that be better if it was free to play because you know you you maybe their model is is the better one for them because they know that it's a shitty game that no one's going to buy anything free to play because they're going to quit it after five minutes no but i think oh well let's just get

the 40 quid up front and if you look at the European website for Black Desert, it doesn't have anime on it that I could see. I just looked at it. I thought, wow, this is good. And people said Black Desert is good. I was like, oh, cool. So I looked at the thing. I was like, oh, that looks pretty good.

Anime in my game. Surprise anime. I was appalled. I was looking at the character and I was like, wait a minute. This is looking a little anime. I was like, maybe it's not too anime once you get into the game maybe it's just a couple of characters it's just full anime raybo's fucking ponies out on the field it's like oh my god it's full on anime and it's just it's incredibly complicated i open up the menu that's like a billion buttons as i write fuck this just write it off 40 quid wasted

but I can live with it Steam refunds? no I didn't get it through Steam I bought it through their cocking website man Steam refunds

is something you hear a lot I have Steam refunded a lot of shit lately fuck me I love Steam refunding games it's kind of like

rage uninstalling it's like your own personal fuck you to a game dev it's like hey you made a shitty game and you think you screwed me over? Fuck you. I played your game for 20 minutes. I had an okay time, but I'm going to refund it.

Fuck you. I did that with Rainbow Siege 6 or whatever it is. 30 minutes. 30 minutes I played that game for, yeah. Hey, you played The Division too, didn't you, period? Yeah, yeah. Because we have two weeks of games to catch up on and what

do you think I got to level 28 I've finished the single player content of the main story and I was about to venture into the dark zone but you can't go into the dark zone alone once you get to a certain level when you're low level you can

sort of dance in and out grab a few guns and hop out but once you get to the later stages you better be piled up because it is hardcore in there it's ridiculous there's a pc gamer article about the dark zone um claiming that it was both um broken and beautiful at the same time so what is it a pvp area yeah with free free free killing? Well, no. RuneScape style? No, no, because it's actually quite clever what they've done. I haven't seen this before.

It's been in other games. I haven't seen it. So you're all meant to be division agents, right? You're all technically on the same side. But when you... So, okay, for people who've never played Division like me who have no fucking clue what it is, is it like Borderlands?

You're like sleeper agents sort of thing. You're like a dad in his jeans sitting down for dinner with your family and like the worst thing possible happens to new york city and then they awaken like these these dormant agents to to save the day sort of thing so it's like yeah we don't get attached to anything you know we leave everything right away so that we can save new york city so there's like this big fucking like bio yeah there's been like a virus some guys developed a virus they put it on money and of course everybody's handing money all day so they all get the virus a ton of people die and new york is then overrun by these gangs and you got to try and figure out what's behind that. I'm not going to give away the story.

It's not a particularly original story. So what game is it most similar to? It's a cover shooter. Don't say Destiny. Some people have said Gears of War. Tom Clancy's X. Some people have said Gears of War because it's basically a cover shooter.

So you're running around. You have to shoot the enemies quite a bit. But it ended up not bothering me. No, no, it's third person. Third person. So you're running around, hiding behind cars cars you've got a variety of technological gadgets to bail you out like a little turret you can deploy you can deploy a little cover if you need cover um so and stuff like that so you level up and it's like an rpg you collect guns it's mainly yeah so you get your

guns you mod them you get upgrades you get armor so it's like world of warcraft but with guns you get different cosmetic things as well so you get like better toques exactly and is it all sort of solo leveling single player

story content like World of Warcraft or what you can party up for it you can go in a group I didn't have to like if you just do them on normal

I did them all on normal difficulty but is it like a world like a big MMO world where you wander around there's people

doing the same quest as you it's like lots of bad guy down the street stuff no so like but if you go into a safe house or like in in your base or whatever you'll you'll bump into other players but then when you exit out you're you're like in an instance yeah like a group your single player instances is just you and but if you so you can you can solo the whole way up yeah you never really see the other person until a lot of people say that it's it's a very fun game when you play it with friends so if you have a couple of people that are willing to to do it right with you then it's a pretty enjoyable game solo experience i don't think is too bad i played it up to level 15 or so i think solo and i enjoyed it enough. I thought it was pretty good.

I loved the look of New York City. The game blew me away. The game looks beautiful. The detail that they've got in the environment is remarkable. It's unreal. It must have just taken them so fucking long to do. It's nuts. You go into an office.

You can sort of harvest gear. So you go into a shop, and you can find fabric to help you craft items and stuff so you go into the shop and it just it's so much detail it's it's just unbelievable like you know you go into some a house that you can go into and it looks like yeah it looks like somebody's house you can you can inspect every angle of it there's the kitchen there's the bathroom and it all looks 100 like beautiful it really is so how much gameplay is there to level 28 like the end of the story i think i got about 60 or 70 hours out of it i played it quite a bit um jesus yeah yeah and then there's expansions there's two expansions coming out this year for yeah yeah so more more story content and stuff and probably changes to Dark Zone or whatever.

So it's a game that'll just keep sort of growing. But so with the Dark Zone, you go in and you can party up and you can get into a group and stuff. But let's say I see another agent because in the Dark Zone, the whole point is you lose your communication with the central agency.

So you're pretty much on your own. So people can go rogue. If you go rogue and kill another division agent, you get a red skull over you for like three minutes or something. And everybody in the area can see you on their mini-map as a red skull. So they all hunt you.

If they kill you, they get a bounty. And also, if you die in the zone, you drop everything you're carrying. And people can loot the public items that you drop from your body. So if you've got some amazing gear, you then want to get out of the zone. But here's the catch. You can't just dip in, grab the gear, and run out.

You have to go to a pickup zone, and you have to stand there. You fire a fucking flare into the air, and a helicopter's like, we'll be there in one minute. So you have to stay in this area for one minute, and everybody on the map can see pickup zone activated on their mini-map. So they all come over to kill you and steal your gear, you have to wait and then the rope comes down you've got to walk into the middle of the road tie your shit to the rope and there's npcs attacking as well it's really it's so hard to get gear out of the zone that sounds cool though like it sounds it sounds

fun but a bit chaotic and stuff it is chaotic yeah it's fun it's fun so so the division is the triple a game that came out before dark souls 3 which none of us have played no i don't think too hard too too hard do we plan on playing it i don't plan on i do not plan on playing it at all we might double dragon it at some point well i mean the pc gamer gave it like 94 yeah you see that and they said it was a real triumph and i mean that i mean dark souls there's always been a lot of love dark souls had kind of a cult or following right a cult following of people and dark souls 2 had another cult following of people and i played the original and i played a little bit dark souls 2 and i mean it really i really understood that whole idea that

you you get so frustrated you smash your control on the floor because that's what i was doing i was chucking my controller like on the floor after i played it and i was like how is this make who is this game making me so angry yeah i don't get it you know and so i think it might be something that we can we can look at but man it's supposed to be a good balance of extreme difficulty and fairly decent half decent storyline in dark souls 3 so yeah at least this is what i'm hearing yeah it's meant to be good dark souls 2 the environment and everything is so oppressive and sort of depressing and it's just well you're like undead right so you're going through this weird fucking yeah i know i was the same i didn't i couldn't like gel with it it was like a bit too dark for me but like not but not

in like not because like i'm a pussy or whatever but i just like i don't know it was like a bit too dark for me but like not but not in like not because like i'm a pussy or whatever but i just like i don't know it's like it's too unforgiving you know like you can just screw up so easily and then you have to retry stuff and whatever and i'm up for that i like like hotline miami and stuff like that which is i guess yeah yeah but that's it like restart restart restart and that's quick yeah it's so fast and punchy that like you get through it and it's you know the pacing is is a bit better i think but i don't know maybe i just need to give dark souls like a good a good try or something and i just it's the loss it's the fact that you die and that's it like i i you know you've got to go

back to some miles away save point you're like oh my god i've got to grind my way through that guy and this bit and run all the way over here and it's just like i just i just can't do that like that i did that you know i'm 40 i played through the generation of games that people are like oh it really harks back to the days when games were hard yeah i've done my time all right i've done but it's the same thing with super mario maker i don't need to do it again we've been playing super mario maker this week haven't we a lot because you've been making levels on it and your kids been playing it yeah it's a hard game if you pick a level that you're gonna take 50 times to like try and complete you know yeah it's i don't think it's

that different to dark souls in a way like you know when you go through a mario maker level when you get right to the end and you die you die and you think shit i'm gonna have to start i'm gonna have to go through this bit again i'm gonna have to do this i know i mean the mario maker's like happy wheels isn't it where it's all user generated content right so like you're at the mercy of somebody who has figured out that it's impossible to like get past the pipe with the flower that comes out with the spike trap right next to it and sort of thing and the ghost you have that one percent chance to get lucky and get through it and then you finally get through it and it's like a troll block above you that like knocks you into the hole yeah like yeah it's fun though

it's really fun and and really innocent too because mario right there's nothing like yeah or offensive but you like that right you like the challenge you know it's not like we are a four-year-old who has one go and is done. We're coming back around to this whole thing, you know, but we're going full circle in this podcast, I think. It's nice. But I think Dark Souls 3, maybe it's time for us to try it.

So we'll see. Maybe it is. Yeah, maybe. We'll see. Game Stuff, Lewis, do you have anything? Have you been playing anything interesting other than Binding of Isaac and the occasional game of dota 2 no i've been playing a lot of binding of isaac this week i've enjoyed i'm enjoying it i'm doing

like the daily challenge nilesy is so good at it that i look on the daily challenge thing for where he is after i finished because he usually does the daily challenge as well and sometimes really does as well and he always comes like top a thousand or something in the world and i am like i'm like like 20 20 000 25 000 well he's been playing it consistently for like five but i think i do a really good job you know i complete the daily challenge so i you spawn you know i'm obviously not good enough but i'm not good enough no jeez i watched him stream a bit and it it was like pretty it was like a different world really he was just much more adept much more capable than me much more comfortable with controls i feel like i would

like to try that game too but man i i have enjoyed it it's like an old it feels old school it feels hard it feels like a bullet hell in many ways because a lot of the time you're dodging bullets and stuff it's got a lot of little games within a game it's rpg it's collecting cool items it's like finding the most broken combos it's it's got so many games in one it's a little bit of a bullet hell it's a little bit of a shooter cool it's a man a bind of isaac is great and they continue i read yesterday they're adding like 50 more items and edmund mcmillan posted or is that his name, I think, posted a Reddit thread where 10 of the users submitted ideas are going to go in. So a lot of people were suggesting

loads and loads of dumb shit, which some of it was really, really cool as well. Cool. So yeah, I saw some really cool stuff and I upvoted a few of them. But it's a contest thread on Reddit. So when you go to a contest thread, right, all the responses in there are randomized

and displayed to you in a random order with no knowledge of which ones are good and bad right so the first one i was presented with was just cancer and then like i scrolled down actually cancer is a really good item in in binding wise by the way but nice it's actually two items called cancer because one of them's the star sign anyway uh so you scroll down blah blah blah and i found a couple of good ones and i put them and stuff but yeah man it was it was really it's nice to see games that are out you know you buy them i think i got it on on the christmas sale for like fucking nothing um i play a bunch free updates man it's a pleasure and you know what i might i might like you know i might well buy

um some merch or something some binding of isaac stuff and pay some money because i because i love the game so much and I feel like I want to give back who knows nice who wants to give back the other thing I saw that come out this week was

enter the gungeon you heard of that yeah I've heard of that yeah seen a lot of hoo-ha about it it's a little bit like Binding of Isaac just

without any of the it's not really fleshed out enough yet like there's only one of the great things about Binding of Isaac is that there's so many

different items and so many different bosses you know there's like thousands of items and hundreds of different bosses that could spawn that every time you play you're going to get a completely different experience um whereas Enter the Gungeon I think is a little bit basic at the moment I think it's like it's like Binding of Isaac except there's only like five or six floors um there's only like three or four bosses that can possibly be on each floor and I think there's a limited amount of

items but it's kind of the game where you're shooting your way through anthropomorphic bullets it's a bit weird yeah yeah um but yeah i haven't checked it out yet i'm gonna hopefully check it out and um maybe we'll do a one shot on it because yeah man i've been playing by the guys like a lot and i i love i love that kind of game right now yeah for that so yeah we'll we'll we'll check that out maybe hey um another thing today they announced uh blizzcon officially did they fourth and who's playing november at the uh i don't know tickets are they've announced it anyway tickets probably haven't they always get someone quirky i mean food fighters snatius d metallica who do you think it's gonna be who do you think it's gonna be this this year i think

it's gonna be taylor swift it could be someone like i don't. It could be someone like Green Day or someone like that. Green Day. Do you know what I mean? Those sort of people. Who was it last year? I don't remember. I didn't watch or go last year. I can't remember who it was last year either.

It was someone quirky. Weird Al. Weird Al. That would be great. I'd fucking love that. Weird Al would be sweet actually. Holy shit. That would be fantastic.

But yeah, so if you like BlizzCon, you want to go to Blizzcon the warcraft movie i think we're going oh we're pretty much going we definitely go to blizzcon this year yeah you want to go flax no um where is it to come it is in anaheim california um when when is it when is the dates the fourth and the fifth of november oh it's like a Friday and a Saturday. I've never been. I don't really play many Blizzard games. You should come. I would go, but yeah, maybe.

Lots of cosplay. Lots of panels. Cosplay for characters I don't know and games I don't really play much. Lots of panels. We'll bring you along if you're free. I would come just for the crack, honestly. It sounds like a life that's fun it's good it's a little crack there yeah it's a it's a lot of crack to be done sweet and um but it's like a 10-hour flight that's all right

i've been to california a bunch of times it's i like it it's a nice place to be in november because it's warm we're going to vegas afterwards as well we're in ve to Vegas afterwards. Oh, shit, son. It's on. Yeah, I'm down for that. It's going to be good. Yeah, it's going to be like a bachelor party. Yeah, that's right. Prostitutes. I'll get divorced just so we can do it as a bachelor party. How about that?

Oh, you're the man. That'd be sweet. Awesome. All right. Well, let's end the podcast. Oh, no, we have to do questions. We have a couple of quick questions and then we'll end. From fans.

First one, Ryan James Benstead asks, all of us, I guess, any advice for someone just graduating high school, going into university? Well, I assume he's already picked his course and has already been accepted into his choice of course. So we're not going to talk about choosing a course. But going into uni, just don't be a shut-in, right? Get out there.

Get out there. Go clubbing. try ecstasy well don't go clubbing necessarily but join clubs right so one of the first things that they usually have

is a big a big university open day thing right where they have all the clubs that you can join and stuff

so you should go along to that and like sign up to all sorts of fun clubs that you think are interesting yeah what the hell are you talking about get in with a cool frat house and um do a toga party and have a couple of raves or whatever

here's what you do kids all right if you're going to university don't don't stress about it all right don't don't stress about it your life is not going to be decided by how well you do at university there are tons of people out there with amazing qualifications that can't do shit. And there are lots of other people with shit qualifications that do amazing. So don't feel like every S is, oh my God, I got 58%. My mom's gonna kill me.

Just chill, enjoy yourself. Have a load of protected sex. Get drunk, do drugs. Yeah, your mom doesn't give a fuck at that point. Like you're not gonna go back and live with your mom after university. Cause like you've already had a taste of what it's like living away from your mom so who fucking cares trust me your parents are having the time of their life once you get out there yeah you're

like holy shit look at the space we've got the house doesn't smell of masturbating kids anymore this is amazing and the kids are out it doesn't smell of teenagers it's perfect perfect and they go on holiday and they can do whatever they want they get up at like midday they're walking around the house it's not yeah you guys are right it's it's not about um the marks and the grades and the experience at all it's about who about meeting people yeah and you know setting yourself up set yourself up to meet somebody who is the son of somebody really wealthy yeah and then you're you're gonna be good you're sorted for life my my number one advice for this is that um when you go to like college or university or whatever um lectures are optional like yeah you don't have to go to those they're so fucking

boring like even if you want to do really well you can just catch up by reading like the course material last minute and then just wing i think the most important thing is figure out which lectures are for the hardest subjects and hit those lectures hard you've got the tough ones you've got to go to because the notes will be like what the fuck does this mean you've got to go to the hard ones with a guy who has really neat handwriting yeah not a girl uh a guy who has really neat handwriting because you want to stay friends with him right make sure you stay friends with him all the way throughout the course then just say can I borrow your notes one day photocopy them job done

and also you know one day if you wake up and you're like I want to stay home and I want to play Counter-Strike instead of going to school do it Half-Life came out when I was at university and I missed a full week just playing Half-Life it was incredible Counter-Strike 1.6 was my schooling.

We didn't have internet at home in those days. I'm not sure a lot of this advice is particularly good, but thanks anyway. Next question. Next one is from Gamma Zana. And he or she asks, what are your thoughts on games having separate servers but no way to access them on clients say like um a server having like an na server and then an eu server so it like

segregates people out by by region like starcraft did that yeah and um you know like most blizzard games do that you know you can either play on na or eu or well the main reasons is that you don't want people exploiting lag and stuff. You don't want to play on a server where half the people on that server are fucking lagging all over the place. Yeah, that's it. Because they're like, oh, you know, I wanted to play with my friends in America, but I got stuck here, and now I'm here. I just don't want to lag. And they all have a bad experience too, right? I think it's to prevent players having a bad experience by picking servers that they shouldn't be picking.

And having loads of lag. So they don't want their forums constantly being like, this game's so laggy. It's like, well, maybe you shouldn't have picked the fucking wrong server, you idiot. I played Warlords of Draenor when it came out on the American servers because just the timing and when I was able to play, it meant

there were no queues to get on and I wanted to play. But if I wanted to play on the EU servers, there was just queues for hours no cues to get on and i wanted to play um but if i wanted to play on the eu servers there was just cues for hours i couldn't get on and the experience definitely different like my ping was like 170 or something to the na servers and noticeably things weren't like always super responsive and stuff and if you play on eu when your ping's like 30 or whatever um it's a it's a it's a lot it's a lot nicer experience so i guess that's why they do it but it sucks because you know the internet being the way that it is you will have people you want to play with who live in america you should be able to like

opt in though there should be an opt-in thing where you could wait it warns you it says your game experience will not be optimal on these servers but you can access them if you want yeah so you should be able to there should be at least something that says you can transfer your account information over to like another region in the same game like i would have wanted to play my eu characters on north american yeah imagine you moved abroad you know they should be an option for that but but yeah who cares it's just something we can't get around i'm afraid yeah i think it's just the way that they get it set up and whatever next question kind of sucks but you got to deal with it uh next question is from hollow somebody named hollow um and the question is what's something you've always wanted to get

better at i guess like for period and lewis dota 2 no i don't really care if i get better we can't get better yeah well what what's something you've always wanted to get better at, P-Flex? I'm great at everything. I've always wanted to get better at just cooking, I think. I'd like to be a better cook. I wish I had a better memory. Better memory. That would be something.

Being more thoughtful. For instance, my brother-in-law bought me a birthday present, and was really thoughtful and i've never bought him shit like mrs f always gets it and posts it and i kind of feel bad that i lack thoughtfulness i don't i don't do thoughtful things that people like oh what a nice thought because i'm just away with i'm away in my own mind most of the time okay for me i wish i was a little bit taller. I wish I was a baller. I wish I owned my own fishing trawler. But some things you just can't change in life. So you just got to, you know, take it on the chin and just, you know, power through it. Yeah.

So there's that. Yeah. But if, honestly, if I wanted to be better at something, I think it would be probably something like an eSport. I wish I was better at like Dota 2 or something that I could just like go in and rinse noobs like whenever I wanted to, but I can't. Yeah, the problem with that is that those people who are good at eSports, they never play anything else at all.

We've had a much more rounded and variety-based experience with gaming. We've played everything from strategy games to fucking RPGs to D&D to story shit to point and clicks to candy crush, play fucking everything. Esports people play one game from when they're 12 to when they're 22. That's it.

They've played 10 years of that. And that's what we were like in World of Warcraft. We were the best raiding team in the world, or at least in the top couple of hundred. You know, we were very high level. Luthor Legend in his own lunchtime. We were pretty big in our little world legend in his own lunchtime we were pretty we were we felt pretty we were pretty big in our little world in our little pool back in the day

but you know that's because we invested the time in i think that's what you have to do with everything right that's true yeah yeah all right last question before we round off then uh from alexander alexander asks why did you three decide to start making a podcast um i don't know we wanted to do something together, I guess, and podcasts seem like the natural thing. It's like something you can meet up and do once a week. Yeah. It's just chill.

There's not a huge amount of editing. We've got to figure out which game. We have shit to talk about. We don't really want to try and talk about that shit while we're trying to play some stupid game because when we're playing some stupid game we're too busy playing the stupid games talk about the boring ass shit that happens in our everyday lives and so yeah i felt like we always you know sometimes i come on to people actually stream and i i just tell him about stuff that's happened in the week i'm not i'm not able to do that so much these days and so this is kind of

a place to just vent some of the the stuff that we've been doing a little bit of a behind the scenes yeah i think a lot of people assume that like you know like last week when we didn't record a lot of people assume because we're all part of the yogs cast that it's like a yogs cast thing and it's like well bflax is busy couldn't make it why not just get somebody else but like the point of it was that it was us three doing it we have like a certain dynamic you know we have certain things that we like to talk about or do or whatever and we want to keep it like that we don't want to just backfill all the time with like other people because it you know it's different and it's you know for people who watch it for what it is you know maybe they don't want you know they

want the consistency maybe they don't want things changing all the time and stuff like that yeah this is how we like it at the moment. It might, we'll change. It might be a P flex and us might go away for three weeks. There might be no podcast for three weeks. Don't be mad. Right.

You know, we might get even. Yeah. Make your own podcast. Slagging us off. Yeah. We, we might not,

we might even get bored of doing this. You know, who knows? I might go back to stream with P flex more and, and this might, might all change or who knows. So, you know, times change. go back to streaming with pflex more and and this might might all change or who knows so you know times change our fickle nature's changed but for now this is what you got so yeah hope you enjoy it hope you love it hope you love it thank you for listening it's

a pleasure to share this with you and i'm glad if you've managed to stick it out all the way through um especially with all these audio weird troubles we're going to have. Me and Ivy talked to the back of Sips' head this whole time. Yeah, I haven't made eye contact with him this much. Very nice. You had a haircut yesterday. I did, yeah.

It looks great. Thanks, man. Yeah, really suits you. Thanks. You're welcome. I think somebody's got the afternoon planned out ahead. You too?

Yeah. All right. We're going to play... I just remembered i'm really busy this afternoon enter the gun can we play into the gungeon i really want to play that sure we'll have a go all right pflex lots of love pleasure to talk to you next week friend yeah see you next week a pleasure thanks we'll see you next week okay peace out bye everybody bye