Triforce! - Triforce! #6: It Ain't No Ghibli

Episode Date: April 27, 2016

Welcome back to Triforce! Today we waffle on about Kids, Theme Parks and Lewis' great love of Anime. Triforce is a podcast where Lewis, Sips and Pyrion chat about pretty much anything they want. Enjoy...! Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Please play responsibly. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the Triforce podcast. We're not on the road today. Hooray. We got Lewis. What is up, Sips? We got Piri and Flax. What indeed is up?
Starting point is 00:00:56 We got Sips. Hey, what's up everybody? Got a big dick. And we're pretty much ready to go. So let's do it. Where shall we start? What's new, guys? What have you been up to?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Want to know what I've been up to? Thanks to Piri and Flax. Yeah, go with it. Just playing Rust, like all the fucking time. I can't get enough of it. Yeah. Ever since the podcast where you were like, Rust is amazing and I've been enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I was like, man, maybe I should check that out. And ever since I've been hooked. Yeah, I'm completely hooked. I'm a little bit scared of talking about Rust though because it's a little bit less than someone else's D&D stories. You know, it's like, it's this epic tale that they love to regale you with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And you're just not interested in it at all. That's a good point. So I'm a little bit concerned that it's a little bit like, it's a little bit like someone telling you about their dreams, right? Whenever someone tells you about their dreams, I? Whenever someone tells you about their dreams, it's like, I don't give a shit about your dreams. They're never that interesting. It's true.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Like, even if all loads of crazy stuff happens, I'm just not that interested, I'm afraid. Also, it's a dream. There's not really much challenge in having a dream where crazy shit happens. Like, really? What if it's... You had a dream and weird stuff was happening?
Starting point is 00:02:04 That's incredible. I've never heard the like. Yeah, but what if it's you had a dream and weird stuff was that's incredible i've never heard the like yeah but what if it's like what if you're at the mall okay and you accidentally bump into like a really hot chick like with your shopping cart right yeah she's like oh and you're like oh crap i'm really sorry about that and then one thing leads to another and you start talking about dreams and then then she's like, I had a really sexual dream the other night. And you'd be like, holy fuck, I am really interested in this. Like, that's a dream I would like to hear about. True. Sex dreams, I guess, if you're talking to a hot person that you want to hear about their sex dream, I guess I kind of understand.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I pretty much understand that too. But I mean, I know what you mean. can i guess i kind of understand i pretty much understand that too but i mean i know what you mean like if it's a fucking boring dream about like and then all of a sudden i was wearing a fedora and i had a superman cape on you're like yeah fuck off i don't want to hear that like but sex dream yeah definitely let's start with like anything real life that's happened to you this week well anything in real life happened that you want to want to share with everyone else, right? I broke my previous personal best of not washing for three days in a row due to working from my garage now. That was pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Is that true? Is that like a real? No. No, thank God. But it's just to sort of highlight the fact that nothing really happens in my real life other than me going to the garage and playing games but i think that people might think that you're stressed though right people might think that you're like you know you've got the baby you've got work to catch up on you've got so much
Starting point is 00:03:32 to do you know you haven't got time to take a shower you know it's just all go yeah but no we bought a new baby stroller like uh it's a really good one too it's like a travel one because we're going on some trips oh so we did we did that yeah going on where are you going going on some plane trips we're going on a special family vacation at the end of may uh in the uk nice um destination top secret yeah i've gone understandably yeah but no it should be good like meeting up with like people from canada and stuff too so it's gonna be a big one so we wanted to make sure we were ready we want to take all the stress or as much of the stress out of it as possible by um investing in technology and by that i mean okay i'm reading between the lines here yeah so you are basically having a a family holiday so you're meeting up with relatives i
Starting point is 00:04:23 guess from canada yeah and you're going to probably some seaside resort right probably like some sort of holiday camp yeah um where you can we're going to blackpool okay i didn't want to say it but okay we're going to black i was thinking more like those things with the red shirts what the red coats what they called heidi hi and all that yeah all that stuff heidi hi butlins yeah good morning campers your kids are a bit too young aren't they um yeah to appreciate like that sort of thing yeah to appreciate the magic of butlins they are too young does it mean that you can butlins that's it so does that mean you could leave your kids with the relatives then you and your wife can go off and like have some time alone
Starting point is 00:05:03 because i guess you don't really ever get that in an ideal world yeah but like we're not really like that okay but like some people some i understand that you know some people are like that and they do that or whatever but like we you know we're not you do everything as a family yeah that's right i everything yeah like okay you know hey everybody i'm going to take a poo meet me in the bathroom and then everybody comes in and we have a powwow and it's delightful team sips yeah no shares the experience no generally like like when we go somewhere like on vacation or wherever we go somewhere like super suited to like our kids and then we just make sure that they do all the stuff that they want to do sort of things so like we don't really i don't know like the kind of places that we go there are like
Starting point is 00:05:48 bouncy houses or whatever like yeah cushiony yeah yeah you know like it's just like a big fun park remember when you were young and you were like in a you went in the car with your parents and you'd always drive by really cool places you'd be like let's go there and they'd be like maybe next time or whatever we we do this thing where they're like let's go there we're like okay and then we never get to where we're meaning to go because we just stop at all these dumb places on the way first and then forget what we're even doing so you just you're just like neck deep in a ball we have to we have to drive past uh thought park anytime i go down to oh to dorset we come back past it so it's a bit like you i mean you're driving past you can clearly see people having fun from the motorway yeah and
Starting point is 00:06:33 you can see like all kinds of amazing roller coasters and things shooting up in the air and all kinds of stuff and the kids are like they're there you can just see them looking at it just like it's this they'll never get there you know they're looking at they're just thinking we are never gonna get to that they've been conditioned right they've asked too many times yeah and daddy tries to distract them when thought park when he knows thought park's coming up so they don't ask him yeah wow look at that central reservation on the right kids that is some kind of central reservation let's play the name the car game where you look at the cars on the other side of the road and you try and name which one the next one is but i've been to thought park i've been to thought park
Starting point is 00:07:10 several times and i fucking love it and i even made videos of all the roller coasters and i put a video up there yeah yeah i put a video of me on the road because yeah yeah fuck i mean i i was on the front i went there with my sister we queued up for extra long so we could be front rider on the roller coasters on every one of them. And I took my camera with me and I recorded a POV video of me on each of the roller coasters at Thorpe Park. I uploaded it a couple of years ago. Nice. And I showed it to the kids. So they even see me having fun on the roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:07:41 They know how much fun it is. Holy shit. But also they know that you're like totally bored of it now you've done everything you've recorded it all you can watch it oh no i'd go back in a heartbeat but i keep saying to you're too little you couldn't go on all those rides you're too little oh i see you have to wait until they're like the right age yeah like it what would be worse would be going there and being being given that that definitive proof that you're not accepted in this place of the little clown with his hand out
Starting point is 00:08:12 you must be this tall and the kind of slightly sad stern face that the clown's got to say nope you're too short like there's no getting around that there's no talking you into it you're nope too short and then there's out there's like the insinuation there that if you break the rules and the clown finds out about it, like he's just going to fucking appear in your bedroom window one night, like when there's lightning outside and stuff with like a really mad face on and it's going to scar you for life. Yeah. God, I'm still just trying to process the image of a spotty teenage period flax with a giant video camera with a VHS tape, you know, in it. Queuing up with his sister, who's also spotty long-haired in the 80s, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:53 No, this was two years ago. I was going to say, fuck it. For one second there, I thought, hang on a sec. He didn't do this with a GoPro? Like, what the fuck? Did he have one of those shoulder-mounted VHS? One of those big ones. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, look at this fucking goof at the front of the ride that's how i
Starting point is 00:09:09 imagined it like properly 80s thought park you know yeah yeah big candy floss big hair you know i can imagine your sister like filming you while you like shoot the gun at the target and like get the big teddy you know and all that stuff. Like, just this balloons, you know, you get like 50 balloons. It's just like this Hollywood wonderful image of your day at Thorpe Park. I would have to bump into the local bully at the start of the day as well. He's there with his mullet, slightly spiked hair on top. Yeah, and it's like little gang. Hey, retard, I thought I told you never to come to the Thorpe Park again.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You don't own me, Chad oh yeah push pushes me into some rubbish girl i secretly have crush on spots me looks ashamed turns away and then a whole story comes out where i get revenge on chad and make him puke on himself on the the whirly gig and justice is served. End of episode. You get pushed into the garbage and you get up and you're brushing yourself off and you're like, it's fine, it's fine, I'm fine. And the girl you have a crush on is looking at you and she's like, oh my God, are you okay? And you're like, yeah, yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And then you have that moment where she talks to you for the first time and you realize that there's just like a full hot dog wiener stuck to the side of your face it's probably garbage are you okay it's all right i actually love garbage i uh i love garbage and then chad chad grabs her spins around and kisses her and you're like oh your heart just shatters to 100 pieces yeah yeah so you push chad in front of a car and then the park gets closed down for safety violations and you go to jail no no no no no no no what happens is you do that whirligig thing so you know you you for some reason you make sure he's going to be sick and then you
Starting point is 00:10:57 challenge him to go on the the most bumpy ride and then he just projects our vomits and sprays the whole park and she gets sprayed in vomit And she gets sprayed in vomit. And everyone gets sprayed in vomit. And you're just there, like, chuckling. No, romantic end shot. She's covered in puke. You're covered in garbage. And you're like, maybe we're all just puking garbage but making me love. And then you run off into the sunset.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Starring Adam Sandler and Meg Ryan. Yeah. Pretty much. You know what did happen when I went to Thorpe Park with my sister? I didn't realize they did this, right? One of the rides is really, really, really tall. It's called like Formula One or something like that. But it's like the ride is over in 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You queue up for half an hour. You get on it. And it accelerates you from like 0 to 90 in like half a second or something stupid like that. Oh, nice. You shoot straight up and then you come shooting straight back down. It goes round a loop and you're back. So they sometimes have to shut it down because the day we went, it was kind of cloudy, occasional drizzle. And then lightning.
Starting point is 00:11:58 OK, lightning strikes nearby. There's like a peel of thunder afterwards and everybody sort of goes oh shit because they have to stop the roller coasters while the lightning's going but all they do is wait five minutes and go ah there hasn't been any lightning in five minutes let's go kids and they crank the rides up again so we were like waiting to go on this tall ride
Starting point is 00:12:18 and there's like a potential lightning strike but we went on it it added to the fear it would be good if they had like a haunted house that had the lightning conductor on like a really tall conductor on that that would be because they do have haunted houses in these places sometimes they're spooky yeah yeah and if you had a lightning conductor on the top to channel the light man that could traumatize you big time if they're not careful though imagine like ladies and gentlemen we're sorry but we've had to close down my little ponies rainbow
Starting point is 00:12:45 ride cloud adventure it's been struck by lightning and three people died sorry for the delay five minute break and then we're back on it you know i don't think you'd be disappointed if you were like a theme a theme park for the day and it was like lightning storm was going on that would be exciting well it was exciting but it also meant we had to queue for two hours to get onto the new ride, whatever it is. I can't remember what it's called. I mean, you go to a place like that, and ideally you just want it to be a sunny day,
Starting point is 00:13:13 not a cloud in the sky. Or, you know, sometimes if it's a bit overcast, it's like a little bit cooler, you know. It's a bit more enjoyable because it's not so hot. You're not just like sweating buckets and stuff. That's not bad either. Man, that's such a dad bit more enjoyable because it's not so hot you're not just like sweating buckets and stuff yeah that's not bad either man that's such a dad thing isn't it like that is so specifically a dad thing like yeah man i hope it's overcast today so i'm not all sweaty yeah oh christ what is perfect kids it's not sweaty today it's not a sweaty day kids it's gonna be fun we're gonna
Starting point is 00:13:46 have a good time oh man holy shit hey so i was this morning i was making some um some breakfast and by making breakfast i mean i was putting some milk on my cereal yeah and um i was thinking like i don't know about you guys but do you guys have like like home jokes you know like they're just like jokes that sort of happen around your house but like they're not really they don't really make a lot of sense or they're not really funny outside of your house but in your house they're like fucking hilarious like yeah yeah i was thinking like for some reason i don't know why but i got the dexter theme music in my head like i think it was just the act of you know making breakfast or whatever because you know the opening sequence has him making breakfast cutting of the egg and the the
Starting point is 00:14:30 yeah yeah what's what's dexter sorry tv music it goes like and it's like really weird it's like have you ever seen is it a kid's show oh fuck you've never even seen the show what is i was And it's like really weird. It's like, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. Have you ever seen it? Is it a kid's show? Oh, fuck. You've never even seen the show? What is it? I was just trying to like jog your memory with my awesome singing.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It's a great fucking rendition. He's a serial killer. And he sort of justifies it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he goes after, you know, bad people and he kills them. Yeah, I remember. Wraps them up in plastic and hacks them up and stuff i watched the first episode and i didn't care for it so yeah so anyway well i used
Starting point is 00:15:11 to watch back in the day before it got kind of kind of crappy as a lot of shows do you almost gonna name your kid dexter weren't you actually that was on the short list i think it was on the short list at one point yeah because we were we were like pretty into the show at the time. But then there were some questions, you know, should we really be naming our kid after a fictional serial killer and stuff like that? But also it turned out that the name was just very popular at the time. And we didn't want to be in a situation where it's like you knew like three other babies who were called. Yeah. You send your kid to school and there's like five other Dexters. And it's like, oh, shit, that's not not the the best either so so he had to be taken off the short list but anyway anytime i even think about the dexter theme music now i can't help but sing like these so
Starting point is 00:15:57 something that we do is we we think that it's funny to give lyrics to songs that don't have like any words or lyrics in them yeah yeah so like the dexter theme music it starts up and then we start singing like the first time we did it we were fucking laughing our heads off and it was like the dumbest thing because it was just like imagine this had lyrics it'd be so funny and the lyrics were just like so fucking bad and specifically to do with dexter it's like like, Dexter likes to kill people. And like now I can't imagine the music from the show without singing those lyrics in my head. And I feel like that's not a great thing.
Starting point is 00:16:35 You know, like if I'm out in public and I start singing that for some reason or whatever, it makes no sense. It's like totally a home joke, right? Like if I do it to my wife, she's like, oh, yeah, that was really fucking funny, wasn't it? Blah, blah. Yeah. But, you know, outside of the home, it doesn't really make much sense unless you take a lot of time to explain it or whatever. Do you guys have any things like that? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Private jokes? Yeah, all kinds of stuff like that. It's an in-joke. Like not sexy ones. Like do you have like any like really innocent ones that you can share or not really? I'm trying. Let me think of some. I mean, we've got loads of little things that we've had,
Starting point is 00:17:08 just little things that have happened over the years that we just have to make a very slight reference to. Like for instance, anytime this is such, this is really, really specific. But one time with my mum and we were like looking around, I can't remember, we were up in London somewhere like that. And she says, I love buildings.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And so I don't know why I just, but now whenever we're out somewhere, we see some buildings that are like nice. We say, God, I love buildings. It's such a mum thing to say, isn't it? It is, right? I love buildings. I mean, it's so general. That encompasses everything.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But I know for a fact she hates bungalows. So anytime we see a bungalow, we're like, but not that building. We don't like those buildings. And then my sister was up one time and we're looking around the neighborhood and we're like, you know, we're talking about, you know, houses and it's nice to live around here and everything. And she says, I don't really care for those buildings. The front is too flat on those buildings. So that now has become like, if it's a bungalow where it's too flat, not that building, too flat. Oh, I love buildings.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And anytime my mom says she loves something, I always say, as much as you like buildings, you know, it's such a stupid thing. But that's just like one of many, many, many things that I'll point out. Fuck, that's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Shit like that it's amazing isn't it you get like but you can't really tell you can't get involve other people in it because it's like you specifically have to know all the people involved and the kind of things
Starting point is 00:18:34 that they say and it's just it only works like that's what makes those kind of family jokes but and the weird thing is like when you think about it with your kids you know you're gonna make some you're gonna be the butt of some really good family jokes yeah when they're old enough to spot that shit and call you on it yeah and i i can't wait it's gonna be hilarious yeah no that is funny i mean you can't really let somebody into like a family joke like that because they'll they'll do it too much yeah like your family has like a really good sense of balance right when it comes to making like like reference jokes or whatever but if you let somebody into the fold like somebody who's not part of the family and
Starting point is 00:19:09 then they're really trying to fit in or whatever they might just make that joke all the time you're like ah fuck off with that joke like it's not funny when you make it family that was the only thing holding us together, you fuck. You took it away. The building joke. The building joke. That's all I had. God. Now I've got nothing. I don't have a building joke.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I don't have anything. Honey, can we still make this work? I don't think so. Without the building joke. What are we? We're nothing. Oh, family jokes. Fuck me oh god that is a good one do you have any good ones with your with your mom yoga teaching i don't know i think these are just
Starting point is 00:19:54 like integral parts of relationships aren't they and um so yeah right a lot of them i think are so so silly and just automatic that you can't even sort of think of them off the cuff no i know they just they just happen as part of your daily they have to present themselves to you when you're doing something really dumb and unrelated right yeah i also think that the thing with a really good family joke is that you're laughing at something stupid that you've done because it's one of the few times if you do something stupid with or in front of your family you know it's like a private thing that you've done that's stupid like you're you're just hanging out in the house or whatever and you
Starting point is 00:20:28 do something stupid you can laugh and you know that they're not gonna think you're an idiot they're just gonna it's just it's part of what makes them love each other is that a family can really laugh at each other the way you can't with a friend like if a friend was like hi you fucking idiot you're're fucking stupid. And like kept making references to it. You'd be like, fuck this asshole. We're done, though. But with family, you can have that relationship where you can really take the piss out of each other.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah. And you know you all still love each other. So I think that that's kind of a big part. Because with your family, you're holding them hostage effectively emotionally. So they're not going anywhere, right? Yeah. But like your friends, they don't have that attachment. So they're yeah fuck this guy's a jerk i'm out of here yeah it's shit it'll happen a lot like when you go on a you know when we go on a journey with with uh to to
Starting point is 00:21:14 america you know we all just they'll just crop up like very premium and stuff like this you know yeah it's not very premium and stuff you know it all becomes it blends into one as this kind of sort of strange event and sometimes the funny ones stick around and it's sort of an evolutionary thing the ones that are particularly good end up like being part of your friendship circle of it's true though every trip we've been on there's always been like kind of like a running joke for that trip yeah yeah sometimes it's good enough to sort of come back and like become part of like the main pool of jokes or whatever and then other times you just move on from it or whatever like when we went on that trip to paris we had a whole bunch of jokes like around recherche
Starting point is 00:21:56 and all that at the time but like yeah it's they're still funny but like they haven't really come back like we haven't like we haven't joked around about it since sort of thing because it was really funny at the time but there's not really that many that like the context of them like you can't really use it again sort of thing yeah yeah i mean in a way it's nice that we document this stuff sometimes because you know sometimes when we do the vlogs like terps does this yog tours we talk a little bit about some of the in-jokes. We just reference them and chat about them and stuff because I don't think we remember some of this stuff otherwise. I don't know, sometimes it's nice to have,
Starting point is 00:22:30 to watch back some of these old vlogs and think, oh man, they're a little bit like taking pictures. I'm not saying, I think sometimes it's like, well, how do you feel about this though, where people who take pictures of everything, right? Yeah. That sucks pleasure out of the actual moment. How do you feel about because
Starting point is 00:22:45 some people say i'm not taking pictures of anything you know i'm gonna live it in the moment and some people take pictures of everything all the time yeah um and and live through those pictures how do you where do you sit on well i'm not a i'm not a picture taker i'm i'm very much a i want to experience the moment i don't want to have a camera or the phone right in front of my face like taking a picture like occasionally i'll take a picture but not of like anything you know sometimes i'll just take a picture because i feel like it but like i would take a picture of the wi-fi password you know well i don't really do that but like i would take a picture of a castle or something if i had plenty
Starting point is 00:23:19 of time to do it but like if i was going to a castle and visiting a castle for the first time i wouldn't bother to take pictures because i just want to be like, oh, this is cool. You know, look around, explore and stuff like that and just enjoy it like that. And then I don't know. Sometimes like your memories of stuff are are weird, right? Like you could go visit the Eiffel Tower 20 years ago and it was like kind of overcast and, you know know maybe people were being mean to you that day or whatever but you'll always remember it being like a really sunny day a perfect day and everything because you'll have seen postcards of it like and it'll just like sort of meld into your memories
Starting point is 00:23:54 of your experience of it so that almost like your memory of that event is perfect but it wasn't at the time you're saying the the reality of the photograph drags you back down to earth and reminds you oh yeah sometimes yeah sometimes i think it does we couldn't get a seat in that restaurant and that waiter was really rude and then the buses weren't working yeah you're right life isn't you know a hollywood movie it's nice to have those bittersweet reminders it is lew Lewis. It is. My life is. It's literally a Hollywood movie. Do you know what I've done for the last week?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Go on. I've barely left this room. Just like a Hollywood movie. Yeah. I've been at my computer for like 15 hours a day. Panic room. Yeah. Just like the movie Panic Room. Thank you, Sid.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Starring Jodie Foster. That's right. Or the movie War Games, starring Matthew Broderick. That's right. Yeah. Wasn't that Fred Savage? Fuck no. It was Matthew Broderick. Oh, shit. broderick oh shit yeah fred savage what am i thinking about fred savage what are you thinking about fred savage shit sorry so where do you sit on the tell it take your pictures line p
Starting point is 00:24:57 flax huh oh um what's a camera i don't have those. Well, once I get the tripod out and set up the hood over me and hold up the little flashbulb, get everyone to remain motionless for 10 minutes, gets a little old. It sounds like we already know where you sit because you filmed the entirety of your Thorpe Park trip with the camera. I used to take a lot of pictures, and then I stopped, and then we had kids, and then I started taking a lot of pictures. I took loads of pictures. My first kid, she's got a lot of pictures and then I stopped and then we had kids and then I started taking a lot of pictures.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I took loads of pictures. My first kid, she's got a ton of pictures. Second one, not so much because it's like, it's like the same picture. Just imagine it's your face instead of her face. Easy. I mean, regardless of where you stand on taking pictures, you do end up taking a metric shit ton of pictures of your kids like but then it's like you kind of get bored of it and you realize that in fact the stuff you're documenting is like here's a picture of her lying on a rug here she is lying on the sofa yeah here she is sitting on a cushion it's like how many
Starting point is 00:25:54 times when am i ever gonna look at these yeah like en masse if i've taken 30 pictures of her trying to get one good one of her smiling and not dribbling or like eyes looking crazy you know you get that good shot. You stick that on Facebook for the grandparents. Job done. Yeah. So now if we if we go somewhere, what I find more interesting is I'll take like I'll surreptitiously leave the like if the kids are playing, I'll video that for like 10 minutes because that's what I want to remember is what they were like. Not just an image, but how they talk to each other and the funny things that they said because my kids have got all little things that they say like my youngest so she doesn't know the
Starting point is 00:26:28 word she just says something something because to her that's the word that you use when you say you know give me the the thingamajig when you mean the remote control you know yeah so she she says something something she says you remember you were going to take me to something something this afternoon so i want to remember that because that's like a sweet thing that she does that I remember. A picture isn't going to convey. Yeah, you want to use it as evidence, too. You want to be like. An evidence.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah. So she's like, you promised you'd take me here. Actually, I draw your attention to exhibit B, which is video evidence of me not saying that because I videoed it. Yeah. To make sure that i could get out of whatever it is you're asking me to do i mean it doesn't really work on kids it doesn't actually work on kids but yeah i know what you mean i think you're i think you're onto something there definitely because i think that you know sitting down at your parents house when
Starting point is 00:27:20 you're 20 you don't want to look at pictures of when you were a fucking babby rolling around a rug especially not loads of them i mean my mom's got like a big box full of pictures from all your kids and stuff we never fucking look at them like if i go back home to visit or whatever we never get that box out like it's just buried somewhere like in their fucking attic or something like even though having said that though i think it's probably a good thing and i think that what you're doing there you do need to record them surreptitiously. Because I think if they know they're being recorded, it's a slightly different dynamic. Exactly, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 But then again, you don't want 20 minutes of just crap. You want a 30-second snippet. Well, it's not going on YouTube, Lewis. It's not like I have to worry about retention rates. Yeah, yeah. Got to maximize views. Kids, can you step up the tempo a bit? We're losing viewers around the five-minute mark. Honey, can you step up the tempo a bit? We're losing viewers around the five minute mark.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Honey, can you make sure you say the word Minecraft a couple of times while you're doing whatever it is you're doing, please? There's only so many hours in the day. That's a very good point, Lewis. Time slips by. It does. It does slip by pretty quick. God.
Starting point is 00:28:19 There's a balance. I think there is a balance to be had. I think it does. I think having, you know, things that jog the memory and rather than, you know, things that help you remember good moments rather than just recording the bland every day. I think it serves to be interesting. Sometimes you see these videos on YouTube of like, you know, random people from the 80s in a convenience store, you know, and it's just like it's like a window into another world of just boring, you know, every what everyday life was like. Yeah. In that time.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Seeing that stuff is quite interesting sometimes. It is. Yeah. Because if you if you didn't grow up in the 80s or whatever, just it feels like you're watching something from another planet because things were a little bit different. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just the way advertising was back then.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Obviously, fashion and everything was different. a little bit different right like yeah yeah just the way advertising was back then obviously fashion and everything was different just like i don't know places looked old and shitty back then as well like it was it's so weird like it's only that's kind of a new thing now isn't it like you know like you walk into a store and it's all fucking pristine white like the apple store and stuff like yeah didn't really have a lot of that in the 80s like no most places looked like us like they really did and cars looked shitty like nowadays most cars look really blocky and crisp and clean yeah i mean the 80s cars were very square very shitty like marge simpson sorry yeah jesus patty and salma
Starting point is 00:29:42 oh man sorry so since i've got you two dads here i thought you could help me out with something right so this week we want to be adopted um sometimes on the yog pods on the old podcasts i used to tell like these kind of really boring horror stories that happened to me in real life okay i.e stuff like i'm taking a shower yeah and you know my door to the bathroom the the light in the bathroom goes off and the door opens you know literally this happened to me and it was just a a workman coming to like fix the moldy shower curtain whatever if you haven't heard the yodpod chorus you're just like completely naked in the shower when this happened i was naked taking a shower minding my own business the light went off the door i was like what the hell the door opened and then this
Starting point is 00:30:30 man's like hello and i'm like what the fuck i was naked in the shower what the fuck are you doing in my flat anyway that was one of the horror stories but this latest one okay is i need to i feel like i should put a trigger warning on because if because this might affect you this might this is really spooky i hope you're ready for it all right because this is me personally yeah people listening out there if you don't want to have a horror story that might upset you okay and affect you who's gonna get upset it's just gonna be something dumb like I went to put some fairy liquid in my sink, and I didn't have any. And then the phone rang.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Oh, scary. Okay, listen, right. So yesterday I was on my way home. Okay. And I stopped into Tesco's to buy, Tesco Express, local Tesco, to buy some important stuff, okay? And I bought a bunch of, I bought like a vegetable curry thing for Tesco Express, local Tesco, to buy some important stuff, okay? And I bought a bunch of, I bought like a vegetable curry thing for Tesco.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And you saw maxi pads. Tesco's vegetable curry, some hummus, some bananas, all the normal crap, right? Yeah. Some spinach, all this shit. Anyway, I was like, it was a bit late. And so I was like, I can't really be asked to cook anything proper. So I'm just going to do the microwavable curry right it was one of those ready meal trays right so i got into the kitchen and i pulled the sleeve off yeah okay and i looked down and my thumb looked like a wasp and i was like what the fuck so i and then I realized it wasn't a wasp. It was a giant cockroach the size of my thumb on my thumb.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Okay. And it had fallen out of the sleeve of the curry. So I pulled that paper sleeve off the plastic wrapped curry box and it had fallen out of the gap between the rice tray and the curry tray. It had obviously been in there. And it fell onto my thumb. And I went, holy shit. And I shook my thumb and it fell onto my thumb and i went holy shit and i shook my thumb and it fell onto the countertop yeah and before i could do anything i'd react to this thing it was up on its legs
Starting point is 00:32:31 it crawled along the countertop it crawled under the over the lip of the counter and fucking disappeared into my kitchen yeah oh shit between the cupboards it's making more right now you know how big was it? Huge. It was the size of my fucking thumb. Jeez. It was massive. I didn't even think you got cockroaches like that in this country. Honestly, man, it fucking, obviously it had been in the fridge in Tesco's, right?
Starting point is 00:32:56 And it obviously kind of been, it'd been like, I guess, cooled down in the fridge. I don't know how long it'd been in the fridge for. Well, they can fucking survive anywhere, cockroaches. That's the beauty of them so like i pretty i think i think it was a cockroach it was big enough i can't think of anything else it looked like a giant fucking earwig wasp monster thing man oh man i didn't even want to i didn't really want to go on the internet did it have very long antenna did you take a picture of it is that why it got away i didn't have it any chance but i i watched it with horror go into like crawl into the gap between the cupboards where i can't get to oh man okay you're gonna have an infestation before you know it what do i do dads help me out get a
Starting point is 00:33:37 roach trap yeah fucking just pour some water down there or something please listen to option a not option b procrastinate and if you have enough money phone someone and make it their problem instead i don't think i can live there anymore i think i'm gonna have to move out i think i'm just no i think i'm just gonna have to move don't be ridiculous look i went to florida last year and the bugs are ridiculous in florida they're fucking everywhere they're fucking huge yeah what's up with that place that fucking every every time I've been to Florida cockroaches and garbage everywhere Hot and wet is what bugs like right? They're like they're like girls gone wild. That's what they want
Starting point is 00:34:13 So you you go down to Florida the bugs are huge all the all the all the wildlife is crazy Like the grass is they've got all kinds of different grasses like the grasses are trying to kill each other the grass Kills each other that it's like a war grow out of control it's like a war so the bugs are all fucking massive but you just deal with it after a couple days of shitting yourself you're like ah cockroach like you just see them like i come down in the morning to make a cup of coffee and there'd be roaches and even though the guy comes around and sprays and they put all the traps down it's florida so the bugs bugs just, they're continually figuring out new technology, new bug technology to deal with all the chemicals.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You just live with it. You get used to it. It stressed me out, man, because I'd never experienced anything like that. Do you know what it was? It wasn't the fact that it was a bug and it was in my place. I think I could have dealt with that.
Starting point is 00:34:57 It was the fact that it came out of such an innocent Tesco curry thing, which I'm so, so, my most vulnerable that's what happens right when you're just it's late you're tired you all you want is a microwave curry and now you've got fucking a roach infestation yeah i've got a question i've got a question for you did you did you eat the curry afterwards i didn't i didn't oh really i couldn't i couldn't eat it i just thought fuck i would have totally I lost my appetite totally I was like
Starting point is 00:35:27 I calmed down I can't believe you put a trigger warning in front of a fucking cockroach story Like Jesus Christ Everyone eats these ready meals From Tesco's and they're going to be paranoid Now that they're opening their ready meals And there's a cockroach coming out You've clearly never been on spider duty before
Starting point is 00:35:43 I mean I have to go on spider watch constantly. It was so big. It freaked me. I've never seen a bug that big in my life, except for on Southeast Asian, like, kebab shops out in the street vendor. That's the only time I've seen insects that big. Or when someone's eating them on a fucking survival show, like I'm a celebrity.
Starting point is 00:36:00 You know what? I imagine you like the woman, was it Kate Capshaw in Temple of Doom, where she turns over her hand and there's that gigantic bug on her hand. And that's the tunnel scene with the bugs. I imagine that as being you, Lewis. And your reaction is the same. Yeah, yeah. I just screamed like a girl. I mean, I don't like cockroaches or bugs or whatever, but I'm definitely not as squeamish around them as I used to be. Just because like I was saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:26 when you have a family and stuff and nobody else is willing to remove bugs from the house, it falls on you to do it. And after you've done it a couple of times, you're just like, whatever, fuck these bugs. They're easy to kill. Bugs are really stupid and easy to kill. Like you just whack them. It was fairly late.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And I did scream like a scream queen horror film girl. Like Ned Flanders when he murdered his plant. Do you know what? I immediately felt really guilty, and the reason I did that was because my estate agent sent me an email today saying that my neighbor was complaining about me making excessive noise. Now, I'm not particularly somebody who makes excessive noise except for when i'm masturbating which only happens on a thursday at 9 p.m the only thing i can think of when he shouts the dexter theme song he shouts out yeah dexter likes to kill the only thing i could really think of making excessive noise was my computer is currently set up closer to the front door to my flat than previously.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I bet you I know what it is, Lewis. I bet you know what it is. You've got your headphones on. You've got the volume too loud. And when you're talking on vent or discord or whatever, you don't realize how loud you're yelling. Well, this was the thing, right? Because it was 1 a.m. the other night and me and Barry were building a base. whatever you don't realize how loud you're yelling because well this was the thing right because it was 1am the other night and me and barry were building a base and i was just yelling barry's
Starting point is 00:37:50 big booty bitches barry's big booty bitches over and over again and i'm drawing while i drew this fucking sign with like of a naked naked lady and then i just laughed my ass off when it was fucking finished at how bad it was and me and barry were just there looking at it in hysterics and it was great it was a great moment it's true i remember that that was great rust is full of these great moments that you'll always remember but i remember very sort of just looking at the clock and thinking oh shit it's 1 a.m and i'm like making a fucking real lot of noise so maybe that is where the complaint came from maybe funny thing is right things in my life this is boring i'm just gonna carry on things in my life
Starting point is 00:38:29 are conspiring to make me um live a bit better right so for example the cockroach thing i was like i'm now gonna clean this kitchen there's gonna be no food out so if this cockroach does come out tonight it's not gonna find any food okay food, okay? It's going to be spotless. So I cleaned my whole fucking kitchen, like totally clean, right? I was like, the only thing this cockroach is going to get is cleaning fluid and like fucking jiff. Like that's it. That's all it's getting.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I believe it's pronounced gif. Jif, did you say? Oh, I see. Yeah. So that's that, right? In the mornings, there's some fucking workmen outside my house who start at 7.30. It's like, beep, beep, beep, turn on their fucking things.
Starting point is 00:39:12 What are they doing out there? I don't know what the fuck they're doing. I wouldn't have agreed to move into this place if they were fucking working at 7.30. So every morning, I'm up at 7.30, right? Because I can't. It's like a perfect alarm. And now I can't even stay up wow past half 12 because i'm gonna get noise complaints so everything in my life is conspiring
Starting point is 00:39:31 to make me live like a better life in a good way you know you think you got it bad i got blocked on twitter this morning okay for making a death threat against simon which was a joke i said i i will fucking kill you for tweeting this uh in response to a tweet that he made about people threatening to kill each other over like cupcake decorations or something like that on the internet you know typical internet garbage or whatever i've got to see this you know be kind of funny i had to delete the tweet it's the first time i've ever had to delete a tweet on twitter because it was a death threat. Wow. But it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Twitter blocked you but didn't delete the tweet. Yeah, no, they blocked me. And then they forced me to, like, log in again and fucking, you know, do my two-factor authentication and stuff. And then they were like, okay, well, now that you're back in, please delete this offensive tweet. And it was just like me saying to Simon, my friend, I will fucking kill you. then they were like okay well now that you're back in please delete this offensive tweet and it was just like me saying to simon my friend i will fucking kill you and i had to delete it but that's how we talk that's like normal kind of every that's not even the worst of it honestly so yeah what haven't we talked about i suppose we haven't talked about games yet. You know what we haven't talked about? Chyna is dead.
Starting point is 00:40:45 What? Chyna? Yeah, the WWF wrestler Chyna. You know, she used to chum around with Triple H. Back in the day, she made, well, she became a porn star. I didn't realize that she actually became a full porn star. I remember back in the day, there were rumors about a porn video where she had like weird looking vagines holy shit yeah there she is china uh in a nine wrestler gangbang queen of the ring yeah yeah that's right and um
Starting point is 00:41:13 but yeah no they they found her dead in her home in la jesus 45 apparently crazy victoria wood died uh died yesterday as well that's right when i was uh when i was younger I was younger, she was really big on the telly. She was very popular. I don't think her humor carried outside that sort of period very well. It wasn't very modern. It was quite old-fashioned. It was really good in the 80s. There weren't many female comics, and she was really very funny,
Starting point is 00:41:41 and her show was primetime stuff. And then she did that thing, was it Dinner Ladies, I show was was like you know prime time stuff and then she did like that thing was it dinner ladies i think it was called yeah and it was it was very much kind of throwback comedy it was quite old-fashioned yeah and that was when you know in the 90s and the 2000s comedy was starting to become a bit more uh sort of alternative and stuff and nowadays comedy british comedy is fucking awful because i guess the replacement for victoria wood is that miranda miranda what's her name miranda oh yeah what's a what fucking show what's the show called again i can't even remember i don't even know but like you had like the vicar of dibbley and shit like that it's like these are awful abysmal shows i do not understand even the vicar of dibbley like if you put it up against
Starting point is 00:42:19 some of like the more recent stuff is like fucking hilarious in comparison but you know vicar of dibbley's a fantastic show yeah you're kidding me it's terrible lewis swanning it with like the shittiest opinion you can't say like fucking vicar of dibbley's a new british comedy that's fucking terrible it's fucking wrong with you with you? It's boring as shit. It's like 20 years old, you twat. No, it's not 20 years old. I'm talking about the direction that comedy took. If you look at the comedy on BBC Now,
Starting point is 00:42:54 Radio 4... What, from Vicar of Dibley onwards? It's all fucking awful. It's awful. Pretty much, yeah. It's absolutely reprehensible what they've done to comedy at the BBC. And if you look at Radio 4,
Starting point is 00:43:07 if you look at Radio 4 in the 90s... British comedy is now panel shows, right? It's QI, it's Would I Lie To You, it's Have I Got News For You, it's 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Calm Down. I've got to say, though, Have I Got News For You is fucking hilarious still. It is. It's top notch. But that's been around for like 30 years or something stupid. Yeah, this is where the British comedy is at now though. It's panel shows.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It's not, it's not the fucking, well, that, that horrible Irish idiot fucking doing that woman. What's he called? Jesus. Mrs.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Brown's voice. Mrs. Brown's voice. The worst show on television. Oh, the worst show. people probably watch the shit out of that though. Like,
Starting point is 00:43:43 cause there's nothing else to watch, right? Like that's, that's all they get. They just get mrs brown's boys but like like seriously if you look at radio in the 90s the the number of comedians that got their start on radio for like doing radio for comedy and that what they went on to do like the the whole all those guys like Harry Hill, Rob Brydon, Chris Morris, Armando Iannucci, Alan Partridge. Yeah, Steve Coogan. Steve Coogan. That started off on Radio 4.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Steve Coogan. All those, like loads of comedians like that. All those guys were on radio and they were an alternative scene. And the BBC spotted that talent, put them on the television. Their shows were, you know, they're legendarily good shows. I don't see why the BBC should be responsible for making good stuff though anymore. put them on the television their shows were you know they're legendarily good shows why like we have why don't see why the bbc should be responsible for making good stuff though anymore like honestly are you fucking kidding with anything with all the other stuff like you know
Starting point is 00:44:33 you could watch good better stuff on netflix and and there's other places that you can find this stuff yeah but the problem is is that the stuff that you're watching on netflix isn't you know there's like in if you live in britain like there's there's definitely like a culture and an identity associated with britain right and like if you're watching fucking american comedies on netflix and stuff like that every time you're doing that you're potentially losing those things that make you british right and that's why the bbc needs to make comedies for British people, about British people. Like they kind of have a responsibility to do it too, I think.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah, P-Flex, tell me what comedies that we should be making. I mean, what are these seminal classics that you worship and hold up on high? There is, I mean, for instance, just as an example, right? There is nothing coming close to stuff like alan partridge right yeah nothing but he's didn't you see his film did you see the alan partridge film from like two years yeah i did see it it wasn't it wasn't great and he he did like an audiobook as well yeah you didn't think the film was great i really enjoyed the film man the film was fucking funny man i watched it on the plane i liked it a lot it was great it's a great film it was all
Starting point is 00:45:43 right really funny in my opinion it was all right There hadn't been anything from Alan Partridge for years before that. Yeah, yeah. The trip is quite good, right? I quite like the trip. I think that's quite funny. But the thing is, if you think about what they should be doing, this is what annoys me about the BBC. They have zero need to actually make money, right?
Starting point is 00:46:02 They get given money. And that's actually fantastic when it comes to creativity because you can take risks you can take gambles and you can grab someone like harry hill who was a brilliant stand-up comedian like he was genuinely he i saw him one time and he was fucking he was hilarious right great guy very funny if you look at what the vbc should be doing they should be finding good young comedians who are fucking crazy hungry to succeed. And like Hugh and Laurie and shows like that. Where are these guys?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Where are they? I mean, that's what they do with Live at the Apollo and stuff like that, though. That's where they're sort of showcasing this young talent. No, but it's all the same. It's people who want to be the next Michael McIntyre. It's not alternative. Comedy has become so fucking boring and mainstream again. It's just purely observational.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Michael McIntyre, you can relate to this comedy. There's no challenge to it at all. I think that you're looking in the wrong place. I'm not. It's fucking miserable and they should be doing something about it. Don't watch the fucking TV.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I haven't had a TV that's plugged into the aerial for 10 fucking years or more now. I watch iPlayer. I download stuff. I watch stufflayer. I download stuff. I watch stuff on Netflix. I watch stuff on fucking anywhere else. And, you know, it's not like I don't watch everything. You know, I watch all the best stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I watch fucking anime and shit out of fucking other countries. You fucking what? Fucking weird Korean films. Do you actually watch anime? Yeah, he does for real. Fucking don't. He was trying to tell me about Death Note or something the other day and I had an enumeration.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Fucking anime lovers. Jesus Christ. It's not a great anime, but it's interesting. It's a good one to watch. Actually, Death Note sounded pretty cool. Listen, P-Flex. I mean, I could probably watch that. Honestly, it's not the best one in the world,
Starting point is 00:47:41 but it's a good entry-level kind of adult story. It's like reading comic graphic novels. See, comic sounds bad, right? But graphic novels sounds cool. You know, Watchmen, stuff like this. You know, you guys fucking gush all over the place about, like, superheroes and Batman and, oh, Superman and Daredevil and gushing all over the fucking place about Daredevil. Daredevil's the biggest fucking pussy ever. What?
Starting point is 00:48:04 I hate Daredevil. You take that shit back biggest fucking pussy ever. What? I hate Daredevil. You take that shit back. Matt Murdock is a legend. You can't tell. Right, there's a lot of anime that is like schoolgirls and teddies and unicorns. Right, right. I'm going to counter this with anime somehow. I want to hear the anime case in point.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Let's hear it. But a lot of graphic novels and a lot of anime has been written for adults and has turned into some really good, really good stories that are exciting and emotional and, and challenge you intellectually. Tentacle violation. Dead or versus Punisher. Like what do you fucking do?
Starting point is 00:48:37 Like, Oh, I'm rooting for debt for fucking Punisher the whole way through pretty much. I love the Punisher. Yeah. You're meant to like the Punisher though. He's like, he's like an anti-hero. Like you're, you're meant to like the punisher though he's like he's like an anti-hero like you're you're meant to root for him he's like he's the vigilante he's the guy pushed too far he's the vigilante that we we that's it yeah
Starting point is 00:48:53 he's like falling down yeah he's like a better michael douglas but i mean dexter going back to dexter we're going we're root we're supposed to root for dexter dexter's a fucking vigilante asshole serial killer psychopath yeah he's a fucking nutcase and we're supposed to root for Dexter. Dexter's a fucking vigilante, asshole, serial killer, psychopath. He's a fucking nutcase. And we're supposed to, he's our hero. People are naming their kids after him. He's got a code and a dark passenger, Lewis. It's acceptable.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And then we go backwards to fucking, you know, good old Daredevil who doesn't fucking kill anyone. Even if it's his own life or his family's life. Everyone's being killed around him, right? But he's fucking horrible people. And he's like, do you know family's life everyone's being killed around him right yeah but he's fucking horrible people and he's like do you know what i'm just gonna put him in jail so they can get out again i i don't know like i have a real problem with it actually well so you the the concept of of justice and someone embodying that to you is a bad thing just kill him yeah just kill him daredevil and and the nice thing about daredevil is that he is all for justice he he embodies the justice okay but he's not so fucking overpowered that
Starting point is 00:49:51 it ruins the show you know he gets his ass kicked all the time like fucking superman is just here oh i'm superman yeah how is he gonna get together this one i fucking wonder it presents this ludicrous thing of reality like i watched i saw i read a video i read a video i read an article yesterday i rented a video it's posh british guy from i don't know rugby or harrow or some university oh yeah some some some public school when he was on holiday in like malia or somewhere and he like basically got into an argument with some club promoter and he said well one day you'll work for me, sir. You know, that was what he sort of said. So this club promoter didn't like it,
Starting point is 00:50:27 so he punched him in the face, and this kid died. He fucking died from being punched in the face, right? Because that's what it's like when you try and like fucking... Punch someone in the face. When you punch people in the face, you can fracture, rupture their skull.
Starting point is 00:50:38 You can kill people. You can't just knock people out Hollywood style. It's more of this childish, extremely childish fantasy world where Daredevil can go around, hit people with chains and chairs, throw them off buildings, and they're all fine.
Starting point is 00:50:51 They're all fine. It's a comic book. It's a fucking comic book. They get a bit scuffed up. No, that's not true. Daredevil, in reality, would have probably killed like 50 fucking people
Starting point is 00:50:59 just accidentally. That would be a really fucking boring show to watch. You know, like, oh shit, he's about to bust into the big base and he accidentally hit a kid in the face with a pipe. Oh, and then the next like five episodes are fucking Matt Murdock just like sitting in the ER, like hoping against all hope
Starting point is 00:51:17 that he's not going to jail because he accidentally killed a kid and stuff. Having to deal with a lengthy compensation case. He's having to talk to his solicitor a lot they gave me the wrong pipe for the job who wants to fucking watch that shit you love all the adult stuff you love watching the wire and game of thrones and all these things blah blah i'm just trying to get around to the point that the anime yes there's anime for kids but there is also anime for adults much like there are graphic novels and comic books they call it hentai lewis that's yeah oh my god you know what there's there's there's many flash games that you can play on the internet it's disgusting about all of your favorite hentai
Starting point is 00:51:56 heroes as well you might want to check them out go for it go for it lewis you guys are fucking assholes and you know what you're welcome to not expand and broaden your mind and worldview. You can just sit in your little box and play with your little fucking toy, a daredevil. And you can say, oh, I wish I was the devil of Hell's Kitchen. I wish I could punch villains in the face all day, but I'm blind and I've got superpowers. Oh, I wish there were superheroes out there. Oh, isn't it exciting? You fucking keep your Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:52:25 You keep your fucking pussy Spider-Man. You keep your pussy superheroes, and you fucking love it, all right? I like the way that you're making out that you watching some fucking anime is you expanding your horizons while we idiots sit here like, oh, you just, why Daredevil?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Why Daredevil of all things? That's the one thing you've gone for is, oh, I didn't like the Daredevil TV show because he might have killed a kid. Come on. No, but it's supposed to be for adults and it doesn't feel like it is. It's just, it's a superhero. Nobody's watching it and taking it deeply seriously. He's blind and yet he can still hit someone with a billy club at 50 paces. I mean, nobody's going to go, well, this is ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, it's a fucking superhero movie of course it is like in the in the car in the comic books the kingpin is is bigger than any man could ever be listen we can both agree anime sucks balls go on yeah i think we can all agree grown men who watch my little pony i fucking agree yeah no i would agree with that are you a big brony no i mean, my girls like it because they're the fucking target demographic. Like, I watch them watch it. I'm like, okay, I get it. They're kids. They like that stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:32 How about Disney films? Okay, how about Inside Out? That was great. That was a great movie. Yeah, it was really good. How about Big Hero 6? I loved it. Yeah, yeah, I loved it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 How about Tangled? How about Frozen? They're good movies. They're good movies. They're good movies, yeah. Okay, so you like, so okay, let's carry on then. Harry Potterter no it's all right it's okay i don't like harry potter why not because daniel radcliffe i don't like him well again like i didn't not talk about films talk about books talk about harry potter i like books books you don't yeah you don't you're not you
Starting point is 00:53:58 don't like books i rest my case jury you made this i made this. I read books. I was just, I'm just joking. I can't believe you're trying to take some kind of intellectual high ground on anime. He's going to be sitting in his living room tonight, right? On his couch. He's going to be in a pair of white boxer shorts, no shirt on. Surrounded by cockroaches. Like a pair of ill-fitting brown socks on with like a microwave tv dinner in front of them surrounded by anime pillows and cockroaches watching anime and he's
Starting point is 00:54:33 going to turn around to one of his anime pillows with a really smug look on his face and say this is it this is the high life and maybe a mountain of books around them as well. Well done. Well done. I give up. Do you get a really big book and slam your dick in it just to get off? Oh, so many pages. Bam. You cannot criticize something you know nothing about.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I can. I've seen anime. It's bullshit. I've read books. End of story. I like books. I was joking. It's bullshit. I've read books. End of story. I like books. I was joking. I just don't want to ever admit to liking Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I don't actually enjoy Harry Potter because I don't really know much about it. My feeling, okay, is that you have to educate yourself in order to grow and learn as a person, right? I knew that I wouldn't like Twilight, but I read the book anyway. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:55:27 Man, that's not serving anything. Because I wanted to fucking have an understanding. You're not more educated now that you've read Twilight. All you've done is waste your fucking time. I don't listen to other people's opinions to let them decide for me. I choose and do my own research and find my own fucking way through life i do not say this guy said anime was a fucking weeaboo shit therefore i am agreeing with that asshole right i do not agree with what anyone says i fucking forge my own way
Starting point is 00:55:58 based off my own fucking life experience and learning i'm not willing to accept right what other people say there's a lot of drama and a lot of hassle around twilight and 50 shades of grey and this shit and they don't come along and they're not very hard to read i read it in like fucking two days because it's written by like a child the writing is fucking as big as harry potter it might as well be harry potter it's you know i'm just telling you guys that you ought to not just prescribe to this pre-selected vision of the world and not make up your own mind. Or go in and argue with me when you haven't read it. When you haven't watched anime, you can't argue with me when you haven't watched it. I have watched anime.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I haven't watched every anime. I've watched some. Who cares what? I have to have watched every anime and done like a thesis on anime and really analysed it and sat down. My dissertation is ready. Yeah, I've watched some anime. You've watched anime. What anime have you watched? I have as well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I watched some of that Attack on Titan or whatever it was called. The thing with the giant people that come and eat the villagers. And I watched some One Punch Man at Shane's request. Akira, of course. And you didn't like those two series at all? I thought Attack on Titan was super bad. And I thought it was absolutely shockingly melodramatic. All the characters were incredibly one note.
Starting point is 00:57:15 The acting was terrible. I thought the whole concept, the concept itself was okay. Did you watch a dub of it? No, I watched it with subtitles. Okay. But my problem is that the characters in anime are so fucking out of a box like every character is like lifted from a box you know that character the moment you see them and the voice actor they choose for that guy is like i know this character and i know what they're gonna do
Starting point is 00:57:40 and they they cannot convey emotion with subtlety in anime. I've seen a ton of them, they all do it. If someone's upset, they make them shake, and they'll grit their teeth. That is what they do, yeah. And then they'll shout something in Japanese, and everyone will go, and they'll sort of have that shocked look, and then someone will come in and say something, and they'll go, like that. In every fucking's so it's almost like that sort of classic italian character that there is i can't remember what the fuck he's called you see him in restaurants he's like a clown he's wearing black and white says everything twice he's yeah he did
Starting point is 00:58:17 tell me two times oh for god's sake but but the point is that that that character was like a staple of italian theater in that period like he was in a staple of Italian theatre in that period. Like he was in a bunch of shit and he was the same guy and all that shit. And I'm like, why don't they make up their own characters? Why do they have to have this fucking asshole in there? But people used to do that. You know, they'd have like a carbon copy character that would be familiar to the audience and known. And I see the same thing in anime.
Starting point is 00:58:40 I don't see, I see very high concept stuff. Like the whole Attack on Titan thing as a concept, I was like, wow, you know, this is pretty cool. And you didn't like One Punch Man at all. It's just, it's just stupid. It's just like, it's the, I mean, it's... But it's a comedy anime. Yeah, but it's not fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Like it's, I'm sorry, but it's not funny. It is funny and it's good. Like, I don't know, this is weird. It's kind of like arguing with someone who is a christian right and they know that they're gonna hate atheism right so they go into to looking at this evolution bullshit with this fucking really cynical like stink eye and they're like well i'm expecting it to be terrible and it is it's terrible it's how could this possibly be you know god obviously made a banana so a human could hold on to it i can't possibly believe that a banana would have evolved any other kind of way um and
Starting point is 00:59:29 they're just it feels like such an old man i don't know why i'm even trying to argue i'll tell you i'll tell you why because so far your argument for anime has been about attacking people who don't like anime and bigging up yourself as some kind of amazing brainiac who's sitting around absorbing stroking i'm at the cutting edge of culture i'm watching cartoons and i'm just saying that i've watched anime and i don't like it i'm not saying don't watch anime i'm just saying i don't fucking like it i think it's really really stupid and i don't understand how people can get so into because it's amazing no it's really not to me amazing so please don't understand how people can get so into it. People go, it's amazing. No, it's really not, to me, amazing. So please don't bang on about it.
Starting point is 01:00:06 That's all I'm saying. Such a generic way of saying it. It's like saying I don't like film. I don't like movies. I don't like books, right? It's like saying that. No, it's like saying you don't like a genre of film. Yeah, a genre, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, but anime isn't that. It is. There's like anime about, it's fucking so popular. There's like sub-genres within within it but it is definitely a genre it's like saying i don't like television anime just means animated stuff you know you like animated films you like fucking big hero it's not it's not like that at all there is a style of artwork there's a style of characterization there's a style of the melodrama and the way like it's got its own like like sip says it's a genre it's got its it, like Sip says, it's a genre. It definitely has a formula to it.
Starting point is 01:00:45 It's very formulaic, very much so. Like, for instance, I don't tend to enjoy movies where the poster for the movie is a picture of four or five people looking in slightly different directions with a storm or a coastline. And it'll be called something like The House of Woe. Witches. and it'll be called something like uh uh the the house of woe witches and it's just gonna be two and a half hours of people having conversations and oh it's it's so deep it's like i don't care for those movies that's a genre i don't watch romantic comedies right i don't know romantic comedies but lewis what about sons of romantic comedy i could mention one that's actually good well i'd watch it and then you'd be like oh i don't believe you're just writing
Starting point is 01:01:24 off romantic comedies yeah on the whole no that's the thing p flex no i am never a person who will say to you i i'm not watching that right you suggest something to me i will watch it i will say okay i'll try it out watch the video i'm gonna upload tomorrow of me taking a dump on a pile of anime dvds do that really i. I just don't like an attitude from people where they say something is bad without having read it or learned about it. Because I don't think you're entitled to say it. I just cannot believe you're going to waste your time reading Twilight when you could tell from the description and the general reaction that it's going to be fucking bad. You knew you weren't going to really like it. Man, you're not the target demographic at all.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah, make a prediction. Edward has got a big heart and he is a real dreamboat. Yeah. It gave me tingles in my thighs just to read that book. And I feel like a more happy person after having done so. Listen, guys, you know this whole conversation about anime? This is going to be the most controversial podcast we've ever done. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 01:02:24 It is really going to divide. It's going to be the most controversial podcast we've ever done it is really going to divide like it's going to be like moses in the in the comments section it's going to be crazy you're entitled to your own uh opinions but not on stuff you're entitled to your own opinions so long as they conform with mine yeah yeah that's how it works pretty much that's how the world should work right that's what happens when you spend too much time on Reddit, Lewis. Just saying. Yeah, you obviously bumped into r slash weeaboo knobheads and you got stuck in there.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I've never been on a fucking anime subreddit. I'm going to just check if there is a subreddit called weeaboo knobheads. Congratulations to our top contributor this month, Lewis from the Yogscast. He's been given gold. He really loves his anime. You guys are the worst. Do you want to talk about games now? Games!
Starting point is 01:03:10 All we've been doing is playing Rust for the last week. Is there anything else anyone has done at all? Sorry, just to go back very quickly to anime, just for five seconds. I have watched all of the Studio Ghibli stuff, and I actually really like it. And I think it's very inventive. And my kids have watched some of them,
Starting point is 01:03:27 like Pocoyo and stuff like that. Those are really good. And I think they're really good. I know Pocoyo. Yeah, it's good. And my kids like it. So you think anime is really good? No, I said I like those.
Starting point is 01:03:37 But they are anime. But they're completely different from anything else I've seen. Well, no, but... Like they're almost a genre unto themselves. There's so much anime that is similar and inspired and like that and in that vein no i i've seen i've seen enough anime again what is this no no you can't say oh i like this subsection of things which i know about because i've watched them and i like them right but i've seen enough other anime to know that
Starting point is 01:04:01 i couldn't possibly in the last 30 years that this guy's been making anime be anything similar to what he's been doing there's nothing like it find me find me five movies that practically could be studio gb movies but are not and i'm not talking about made by the same guys on the side project i'm not talking about i'm talking about i want people in whatever fucking stupid weeaboo incest fucking bullshit thread pops up on the yoxcast sub forum after this i want you to give me five movies that are anime and you're like oh man i thought this was shido jibli and it ain't all right and it can't have any of the people that work with shido jibli even the cleaners can't have been involved i'm talking completely independent side project that
Starting point is 01:04:40 you'd be like this must be jibli it ain't no ghibli that's what i'm like that challenge okay it ain't no ghibli that's got to be the title for this episode yeah it ain't no ghibli fuck me fucking hell all right listen if we're going to talk about games it's going to be a quick one because literally there's no fucking games out like dark souls 3 came out nobody none of us have played it and and we've all played Rust. I played it. I played Dark Souls 3. Did you? I died 25 times on the first boss, and then I killed it.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And I was like, I think I've finished the game now, and I haven't played it since. Nice. Oh, it's so hard. It is, yeah. It's meant to be. It's so hard, man. It's meant to be.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Hard as balls. So anyway, Rust, we're not going to talk about it because it's just too much. Well, we've all got Rust fever now, don't we? We've all been playing it. Everybody at the office is now playing it. We've got like a community server with people from the office and people out in like the fandom playing it as well, which is really cool.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And that's about it. If you want to play Rust, you should play Rust. Sure, yeah, it's great. The guys from Rust gave me 100 keys to give away. Are you serious've are you serious yeah wow yeah i've been giving them away on twitter before i got well bear in mind they've given us like 50 000 rust keys over the last kind of three years because we gave them they were part of the christmas bundle yeah man but still fucking free game right and it's a good game too it's fantastic yeah it's you're gonna get anything for free you might as well get a fucking good game you can give them out all right it's a good game too. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's fantastic. If you're going to get anything for free, you might as well get a fucking good game.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah, you can give them out. All right, that's a good idea, Sips. Just tweet at Sips if you want a key. Yeah, just tweet me. Just tweet me and say, you know what? The Triforce podcast is the best fucking podcast I've ever heard in my life.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I love it. I live for it. I don't do anything. I wait patiently for 4 p.m. GMT on a Wednesday for the new episode to come out and I'll give you a key for sure nice so shall we do some questions that you've been tweeting yeah yeah yeah sure why not why sips do you think so many games are always uh sorry becoming always online so why are so
Starting point is 01:06:39 many games becoming always online i mean i think i think that online games are great because you get to play them with people right like they're so right but no they're talking about games where you have to be online oh like as like a sort of like like a drm kind of anti-piracy sort of yeah yeah thingamajig um well i guess that that's why i mean yeah yeah don't want people pirating their games so they want to make sure that they know who's logging in and playing them or whatever it makes sense yeah i saw a really interesting post i can't remember which game it was but they um basically they were localizing into different languages and they had they put some code in the game which could detect whether it'd been pirated or not and they found that localizing for portuguese and brazil caused like brazil to be the most pirated region for their game and they
Starting point is 01:07:26 barely sold any legit copies in that region were you talking about which game sorry i can't remember which one it was i saw but basically it turned out that i think that they the piracy ratio of sales to piracies was about one to three so about for every sale three people had pirated the game right i i've got an even more brutal example of game piracy. OK, so one of my favourite indie games the last few years was Game Dev Tycoon. Yeah. Right. I loved it. I thought it was brilliant. Really fun. Really simple. It was a lot of fun. And I liked the progression.
Starting point is 01:07:56 And I hope they do another one soon. So shout out to Greenheart Games. That game was great. Yeah. So there's a blog you can search. If you just do a Google for Game Dev Tycoon and blog, the title of the blog is What Happens When Pirates Play a Game Development Simulator and Then Go Bankrupt Because of Piracy. It's a long title, but that's what it's called.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I remember all this. I know exactly what you're going to say. I remember all this. So when the game came out, they deliberately released a cracked version, all right? And there was a difference between the genuine and the cracked version. The cracked version, for a start,
Starting point is 01:08:24 had a little thing that just sent a signal to a server saying, hey, cracked version here, and the genuine version did the same. The other thing was the game was slightly different so that gradually your game company starts to lose money to piracy and goes bankrupt, and you stop being able to make money because so many people are pirating your games. So here these are the results after one day of the game being released only 6.4 percent of people owned a genuine version of the game 93.6 percent of people playing the game were using the cracked version of the game it's crazy that's crazy is a depressing statistic it is and and it it shows why now we're in this place where games are free to play and you're just being charged through the nose for cosmetics and and other shit like that if they're selling something through a store that they know
Starting point is 01:09:09 people are gonna buy they're gonna make their money that way and and they're not gonna lose out to people not buying their game and just pirating it or whatever and and putting them under and it's like i don't know it's it such a weird one. The whole thing has just been such a weird evolution around protecting against piracy. And with piracy, they're always two or three steps ahead, right? There's always ways for them to get this stuff and make it accessible for people and whatever. So always online and DRM and stuff is just another step.
Starting point is 01:09:42 But it'll just keep going and it'll just keep evolving. And in the end, you probably won't have to pay for a game, but in the end, you probably won't be able to enjoy a game without buying a bunch of shit in the game that they've somehow managed to ring fence and make safe from piracy or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And it's a shitty direction to go in,
Starting point is 01:10:01 but it's just the way that it's got to be because these guys work, they need to make a living or whatever and they want to make money and and it comes down to it as well like sometimes these games are really fucking shitty they're overhyped and they're shitty and you pay money for them but you got steam refunds now right yeah so if you buy a game and you don't like it just fucking refund it and just show them that you dislike the game yeah and don't pre-order stuff. Just don't. Yeah, I hate pre-orders. There's no need.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Pre-order something if you know that you're going to fucking love it. Pre-order the new WoW expansion if you've played WoW for the past 10 years and you love WoW and you know you're going to play it and get value out of it, enjoy it. That's fine. Don't feel bad if you get a week of play out of it because that's quite honestly usually the amount of play you get out of yeah a game like wolfenstein or you know don't fucking pre-order you know ubisoft's next game or whatever because chances are it might not be good you know given the track record but
Starting point is 01:10:55 then again a lot of people like the division including myself i think i think that that back in the day piracy was easier than buying it legit right so a lot of people pirated because it was just an easier way to get your hands on these games so before steam before before these things you know kazar and limewire and all these fucking piracy torrents and stuff it was just it was just easier to get hold of uh tv shows and films and things like that yeah via piracy than it was to to and even with taking the risk that you might get a cracked version or some virus or whatever, even with that, you know, accepting that.
Starting point is 01:11:31 So now I think Steam's done a lot to fight piracy. And I think Steam refunds is a great thing that will help people. Because I think, for example, I think that on day one with Game Dev Tycoon, at least me, certainly, I think I'd already played Game Dev Tycoon on the iPhone, right, before Greenheart Games came out with their version on PC. I could see myself not wanting to buy this game in case it's crap or everybody played it or whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:54 So I could see a lot of people would download it, pirate it, and then just never pay anything for it because, you know, you think, oh, well, what's the harm? You know, I've downloaded it. I did quite like it. I did play it for four hours or whatever. But I don't know. I'm not paying $29.99 for a copy, you know, legal copy.
Starting point is 01:12:10 It's crazy to think that it's probably easier to download a full pirated copy of a game than it would be to just play a demo. And like, that's probably why nobody makes fucking demos anymore. Yeah, yeah. Remember? Demos were big. Remember when, like, back in like the 90s and stuff yeah demos were fucking huge you used to get them on cds and stuff like as a part of a magazine or
Starting point is 01:12:30 whatever and like you that was your way of additionally hyping yourself for a game you know you play the demo you play the shit out of it it was super limited but you enjoy it and then you're like fuck i can't wait for the full game to come out duke nukem 3d came out the demo for that was i think it was only one level, but it was amazing. Yeah. Like, it was absolutely amazing. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:12:49 How many times did you play that level in the demo? So many times. Yeah, I know. I can still remember it. Like, I bet I could still find my way around that level, and it must have been 20 years. I think it was so satisfying to play. I feel like the meat of the gameplay, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:04 the reason Minecraft is so addictive is that it's just so pleasant and the world of warcraft 2 it's just so easy and to walk around interact the world it feels so natural it's so smooth it's so gentle like just that meat of the game the actual core gameplay it's like rust like cutting down a tree in rust is very natural very good it's very satisfying it's well done it feels natural it doesn't feel oh man buggy or glitchy or irritating or frustrating i was saying this to lewis the other day like i was just out in a field and like the weather changed and it was really quiet yeah it was in this remote part and i just thought fuck this game is amazing like every little fucking detail about this game is awesome you know like you could hear bugs and you could hear fucking i could just hear like
Starting point is 01:13:44 gunfire very distantly yeah yeah and i felt like i was like oh great you could hear fucking i could just hear like gunfire very distantly yeah yeah and i felt like i was like oh great you know like they're fighting but like they're super fucking far away and i can tell that like in the game like it just feels like this alive world sort of thing it's yeah it's really awesome there's drama happening just over that yeah when they nail the guts of the game it's it's really fucking satisfying i agree with wow too wow just the key to like a a successful game that's got longevity, really. It's just that core gameplay. You can do it again and again and again, and it's just satisfying to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:12 It doesn't need anything else. I think in a way, an interesting dynamic with Game Dev Tycoon is that I found Game Dev Tycoon quite fun, but also quite boring. And I think once you've seen that core of the game, once you experienced sitting in an office the idea of publishing a game yeah blah blah you've done you've kind of sometimes life is about the journey right it's not about getting to the end it's not about seeing that final although there is a little smidgen of satisfaction at the end where it says you've completed the game well done smiley face yeah i think that there is just the same level of satisfaction and sometimes it's, your company has gone bankrupt, smiley face. Because it's not about the happiness or the winning.
Starting point is 01:14:49 It's about the message, right? And so I don't think that the people who, for example, I don't think the people who pirated Game Dev Tycoon went ahead and gave it negative reviews because it was too hard, right? Because people don't give Dark Souls 3 negative reviews because it's too hard. They appreciate that that is what you're going to get. And I think that these pirates coming to Game Dev Tycoon wouldn't go on to the Steam reviews and say,
Starting point is 01:15:09 this is a terrible game, it was too hard. No. Because they didn't fuck the game up, they didn't bug it, they didn't do anything weird to it. They just almost put it on nightmare difficulty. Well, no, no, but it's deliberately rigged so that you will 100%. You will lose. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And that was the thing, is there were people complaining. It 100%. You will lose. And there were people, and that was the thing, is there were people complaining. It's pretty clever, yeah. And people were posting screenshots saying, I can't make money. And they're like, it's a pirated version you're running, and it's coded that way. Like, people didn't understand that the game was specifically rigged
Starting point is 01:15:36 just to make a demonstration. Like, I'm pretty sure that when they put out GameDev Tycoon, they weren't thinking, this is our retirement, boys. Like, it was a game that they put together. It was an indie game. I just kind of feel like when people pirate those vast titles that they do not trust, I can understand as a consumer them thinking, the last time I gave them my money, I was unhappy with the game and I couldn't get a refund and I was stuck with this game and I can't afford to buy a lot of games. So there's my 40 quid gone on this piece of shit
Starting point is 01:16:03 that I'm really unhappy with and I'm angry. So I'm going to pirate their next game buy a lot of games so there's my 40 quid gone on this piece of shit that i'm really unhappy with and i'm angry so i'm gonna pirate their next game as a way of getting back something for myself i can understand that mentality but when you're pirating a game that's seven bucks it's like you're just stealing because it's free like there's no justification there's no moral high ground that you can take this is oh well actually piracy sometimes helps game developers explain how like we genuinely explain how you've spent time and money putting out a game and someone steals it and that's helping you out i'm sorry i don't buy it i just honestly think of people are pirating games just be honest you didn't want to pay for it and i like the example that um the guy says uh why so many games online only you brought this on yourself like this is what we we all have to put up with now because
Starting point is 01:16:43 so many people just didn't want to pay for games because they didn't have to there's no there's no getting around it that that's why it's like that yeah this is just how it is from now on well there you go we managed to answer one question one question actually do you have any quick one other quick ones come on we need to answer more than one question and you also have to say who they're from too i mean if you could change thing about one thing about youtube what would it be and why is there anything you want to change on youtube no not really i think it's fine it doesn't bug me too much you're like sometimes when things are broken it's it can be annoying or whatever like recently there's been this thing where if you start uploading a video normally you can just add a thumbnail to it straight away for some reason they've changed something and you have
Starting point is 01:17:24 to wait like five minutes before you can put a thumbnail up it's just a little thing but it's like kind of annoying you know because like you you develop like a workflow you know right like when you when you you make a video you render it you upload it and then you have a certain sequence that you do things in sort of thing to get it ready to go but overall no i wouldn't change anything i think it's fine like it's just this great big beast that just is constantly changing and things change on it or whatever and you just you just got to roll with it i guess like it's just one of those things the the cordigan 510 says period lewis sips what is the best comic book you've ever read i would have to say from
Starting point is 01:18:03 hell by uh alan moore i thought that was absolutely i've read i've read it several times and it's uh i thought it was absolutely brilliant i recently read uh east of west which is amazing it's a great comic do you read any graphic novel sips got any got any do you remember i mean i'll say watchman because pretty much it's the only one i've read man Man. Like, I don't read lots of like comics or, you know, graphic novels or whatever. I'm sure there's way better ones out there. Maybe like, is Watchmen now so old and sort of like. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Where people are like, oh, that's dumb. I mean, I enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. It is that good. It's still held up as. Because, I mean, you've got to remember. I mean, I know it's easy to talk like this about things that were, like, monumental in their time,
Starting point is 01:18:49 and it's unreasonable to expect people to still read something and appreciate where it came from. But this came out at the height of comic books is just literally, like, now we see comic books and the movies, they're quite knowing and self-referential and everything like that, and I think Joss Whedon had a lot to do with that you know they kind of get it they get that superheroes are also kind of silly and stuff like that but in the 80s comic books were not like that they
Starting point is 01:19:12 were really badly written very straightforward and then you had that alternative comic scene in the 80s and 90s yeah because superhero comics like alternative comics in the 60s and 70s with like robert crumb and a lot of the san francisco comic guys they brought alternative comics in as like these can be for grown-ups too and that took a generation to bleed into mainstream comics so that now they're graphic novels for like for adults everywhere but it didn't always used to be the way and then when watchmen came out it flipped the whole superhero thing because alan moore is a genius of a comic book writer he's absolutely brilliant and he like he was the first guy that actually said, what if there really was a Superman?
Starting point is 01:19:47 It would not be as simple as saying, he's going to go and save a bus full of kids from falling off a bridge. Dr. Manhattan fucks off to Mars. He's like, you all just matter to me. I don't give a fuck. What is the purpose? That's what the Superman would do.
Starting point is 01:20:00 And I think that had not been done before. There's a great Brandon Sanderson book, short story called Steelheart, which I think i read the second one of actually recently and that's about uh these these people who can't have superpowers and there's this one called steelheart who's basically like superman um and he just takes over the fucking country he just becomes he just becomes the fucking king just enslaves everyone kills anyone who fights against him and just fucking rules over this this um incredible fucking city that he's sort of constructed and and it's it's completely you know and he fights people who run other other superheroes who run other cities and stuff you know and he's a bad guy right it's you know you you can't assume that the the
Starting point is 01:20:42 the you know superhero superman would would be good and yeah it's great to deconstruct the stuff and look at it from a different angle man uh straight edge kid says sips period talk about the day you realized you were a nerd for the very first time a wee little virgin nerd untouched by nerdania man i don't know like i'm like i'm a nerd but like i'm not like a super duper nerd like there's a lot of things that like you still don't know like i'm like i'm a nerd but like i'm not like a super duper nerd like there's a lot of things that like you still don't see yourself as a nerd i see myself as a nerd in the sense that like i play video games and i really enjoy video games and i i enjoy like weird fucking obsessive aspects of video games and stuff like that but i've never been like you know like super like isolated sort of
Starting point is 01:21:26 thing like i've always had like chums to like chum around with i've always had like shit to do like i think there's definitely degrees of being a nerd right and like yeah i guess like i probably realized like when i was a teenager that like i had nerd tendencies but even then like i probably was playing like pharaoh or something and just being lazy and i didn't want to like go out and that and then i probably thought to myself uh maybe i'm like a bit of a nerd like i'm just staying home and playing a video game instead of going out or whatever i think i think um it's a you know it's a bit obvious but being a nerd has changed from by default what you do to the fact that games are played or you know movies are obsessively watched by such a huge number of people now that nerd culture for want of a better way of putting it is so mainstream
Starting point is 01:22:18 that all you've got left when it comes to actual hardcore nerds are people that watch anime and wank on about it so yeah yeah i mean nerd nerd was a totally different thing when i went to school right like a nerd was like you had big fucking thick glasses and like wore suspenders and had a pocket protector and stuff and like it wasn't it was not even remotely cool to be a nerd and nobody viewed you as being like oh fuck i wish i was more like that or whatever. Like it was definitely a bad thing. But nowadays it's obviously like, oh, fucking look at this nerd who like knows everything about fucking anime or whatever. He's the best.
Starting point is 01:22:53 I want to be like him. Yeah. It's like it's come full circle. Like it's gone completely the other way now. Yeah. I think video games and Marvel superhero films and stuff and stuff. I mean, I think when I was young, it used to be if you liked Star Wars, you were a nerd.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And nowadays, liking Star Wars is the default. I think a lot of things that used to be nerdy have become just mainstream and are now cool. And by extension, that legitimises a lot of other stuff. I think that you still have the definite fringes
Starting point is 01:23:24 of nerdiness. Like, Magic the Gathering is out there on the fucking fringes that is fringe shit but Hearthstone is kind of you know bringing it bringing it it's definitely as mainstream as it gets you know so like what what nowadays would constitute you just being a unappealing nerd yeah there's certain things isn't there I think bronies bronies yeah well bronies up on that list um i think people that are what do you call furries yeah i think people that go too down too deep into the rabbit hole of of nerd culture maybe like this they're down there they're digging continually they're down at bedrock you can't get lower than that, in my opinion. Someone who is obsessed with a TV show that's made for little kids.
Starting point is 01:24:09 To the point of slight mental illness. Yeah, exactly. And I think in a lot of cases, those people probably are mentally ill. Maybe, yeah. And I'm not criticizing them for it. But please don't make out like I'm the wrong one for not liking a TV show that was literally made for my four-year-old. Like I watched an episode with them and it's impossible for someone with an adult mind to really watch that show and appreciate it on anything like at an adult level. It's literally
Starting point is 01:24:35 written for kids in that when I watch something that's clearly not made for kids, my kids are asking questions all the time. What the fuck is happening? Why are they doing this? Why do you say that to her? What's going on with this guy in my little pony everything that happens is spelled out for you as it's happening while the character's doing it i'm gonna go up the stairs now so i can get onto the second floor of my house i'm gonna open this door so we can go through the door walking up the stairs here i go up the stairs clip club i'm singing a song about literally what i'm doing exactly it's it's written it's like a youtube fucking let's play yeah you just narrate every single thing it is yeah it's just for kids
Starting point is 01:25:11 so if you if you can watch it that's why kids like minecraft let's plays because it's just like a kid's tv show where they're just narrating yeah no exactly it's literally oh let's let's knock down this wall with a hammer so you don't just see so the mystery why is he knocking down the wall why is he doing it it's all right it's all right kids calm down he just told us he's gonna knock down the wall knocking down the wall because i need to get a muffin on the other side of the wall it's reassuring for kids they're you know they're startled and the world is a mystery to them at all times they, they have no idea what's going to happen. My kids regularly don't know what day it is.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Like, why would they? What time it is? When is dinner? What is happening? How old am I? You know, they forget everything. My son, like, still doesn't understand the concept of the weekend. So, like, every day he wakes up, he's like, do I have nursery today?
Starting point is 01:26:00 Yeah, yeah, it's Wednesday. It's like, do I have it tomorrow? Yeah, that'll be Thursday. What about the next day? Yeah, Friday. And the day after that? No, no, Saturday. You don't have nursery. But I have it today, right? Yeah, yeah, you've got it today. Yep, every day.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Yeah. That's amazing. That's amazing. Listen, before we leave, I have one shout out, which I'm sure that you'll all join in with me in shouting out to. A man on Reddit named TheOneInTheUnderscore created a really sad thread yesterday, which said, I don't look up to and admire the Augscast anymore. And the reason for this is I've imagined them all shitting.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And now they're just normal people in my mind. They are no longer super humans sad day indeed that's what we were told we know man now you've pictured us all sitting there pants around our ankles taking a shit and you realise you know what
Starting point is 01:26:58 we're just average everyday ordinary nerds I'm shitting right now right now folks there's going to be a lot of drama of this one I'm sure with the now. Right now, folks. Me too. God, there's going to be a lot of drama of this one, I'm sure, with the old people complaining, all the bronies and furries. I don't think people are going to take too kindly to the anime bashing. I think most of our audience are in that category.
Starting point is 01:27:17 That's all right. Let us know that challenge on the Studio Ghibli thing. We will see you all next week for more Triforce. Angry dad ranting. Literally, all Ben ranting. These cartoons, they're no good.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Back in my day, they weren't able to make the cartoons. They weren't able to make the pictures move like they do now. Had to use our imaginations. That's right. Bye.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Goodbye. Bye. Bye, everyone.

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