Triforce! - Triforce! #67: The Death of Comedy

Episode Date: May 16, 2018

Triforce! Episode 67! Lewis and Sips went to Seattle, Pyrion loves Infinity War and the guys talk about the tragic state of comedy!   Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Triforce Podcast. The Triforce Podcast. Not just the Triforce. The Triforce podcast. One of the top rated podcasts on all of iTunes right now. We won the best variety award from Pornhub podcast review last week as well, which is a huge accolade for us. Was it Mike's dildos or someone else's? I can't remember. Shout out to our sponsor for all the good work with the dildos.

Yeah. Dildo retrieval service. Yeah. So far in 2018, we've had a massive 1.5 downloads, which has been just humongous. I love the half. The guy just quit. He was like, ah. Yeah.

He was just like, I wonder what these guys are like. Five seconds in. Bah. This is not for me. This is not for me. This is not for me. I got to go. So I was watching. We spoken about this show before, right?

I was watching Frasier. And it was one of my favorite episodes where he needs to come up with a new jingle for his show. And his dad goes, feel a man. I'm listening. You know, that's his jingle that he comes up with. And Frasier comes up with this this ridiculous long-winded orchestral piece with all this spoken word and i was thinking we should just come up with a jingle yeah like we i figure just four lines nice and simple but it needs to rhyme and it needs to be a good jingle

so i thought we could do as a little mini project at the start of this week's episode we have to come up with a jingle so i'm thinking thinking, what do we want to say? What do we want to say? Let's brainstorm this and people can get a little window into the brilliance that is the Triforce podcast. All right, I got one. Here's mine. You ready?

We just got one. Let's go. Yeah. All right. Triforce podcast, it's the best. Just don't listen to it in Budapest. Okay, okay. I see where you're going with that.

It goes dark at the end see like how it goes like it kind of goes a bit creepy like it's like oh fuck what the fuck's going on in budapest i think maybe we should be more aggressive i think it should be like hey mate listen to the triforce podcast or else you're gonna get glass podcast or else you're gonna get glass i'm just writing down these lyrics because they're gold what if we got william shatner to like do the you know is his spoken word singing for the jingle too that would be funny that would be pretty good try force podcast and he sort of looks distant force podcast says to her the try force podcast

i'd be up for that. I don't know if you would, though. Okay. I mean, maybe if we show him our stats, though, he'd be like, whoa, no.

1.5. Hey, mate, you're listening to the Triforce podcast or else you're going to get classed. Yeah. What, you think

it's too aggressive? I'm not happy with either of these entries. Right. Which one is your favorite of the two submitted so far i'm gonna say neither if i if i could if you had to pick one though like which one which one's getting on the plane and which one's getting floated yours yours is better okay this is it's just right answer i mean i i admire the i admire the rhyming of podcast with glass right Right. Like a semi-rhyme. I like that. But it doesn't sum us up.

Neither is the best Just Don't List It in Budapest. Like none of them, they don't actually say anything about the podcast. It's going to be a laugh blast. It's going to be a laugh. How about something like, three fellas talking, listen while you're walking. Oh my God. Oh, I see. I was thinking more rappy.

I was thinking we could wrap on the toilet or while at work uh what rhymes with work listen to it while you twerk oh jack wow no yeah just three fellas are talking are you typing all this while you're singing it you don't want to lose this you gotta and then you look back at the lyrics. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think you do want to lose this. Dude, listen to this. Just listen, all right? Now imagine this with a little jingle.

Oh, God. Three fellas talking. Listen while you're walking. On the toilet or while at work. Listen to it while you twerk. Just three fellas are talking. With a little country jingle. It's very Fras yeah okay anyway so we haven't set one if you if you have a suggestion yours is a little bit

more elaborate i really like that p flex if you could add some piano to a little or some country music get it recorded for next time and we'll put it on start the podcast yeah sounds i mean we could even put those other bits. Triforce podcast is the best. Just don't listen to it in Budapest. Hey, mate, listen to the Triforce podcast or else you're going to get glassed. We could put those as a stanza between.

Can we say jugged instead of glassed? Because it's more, we've talked about jugging. I don't know if we've talked about glassing much. It doesn't rhyme, though, does it? I mean, the whole point of it is that it rhymes. I feel like any song or poem or jingle has to rhyme right that's just my thing how about hey listen to the triforce podcast you mug or you'll go to prison and i'll get my joke what if it takes a dark twist at the end though and then it doesn't

need to you could do you don't have you can break out of rhyme for the dark twist at the end like as a shocker so yeah that's right and then like the music changes all of a sudden and it turns into like that like Vietnam War flashback music where it's like. Music comes in. Yeah. Listen to the podcast or we will murder you. We will jog you. You will get a jugging, such a jugging. Such a thorough jugging.

Yeah, these are great ideas. I can see why people listen to this now like i didn't understand the hype at first you know when i we got those stats through and i was like wow somebody out there is loving this and it's just russian bots in it it's like the election putin's trying to push us he's obviously got an agenda he's got some sort of agenda yeah he wants you to push triforce podcast very hard he wants wants to bring the whole... 1.5 downloads. Make it happen, poor guy. He wants to bring the whole podcast system down from the inside in the UK.

That's how you do it. You promote the worst and then everybody says, Podcasts suck. Yeah, we got this. So last week we were away. We missed the podcast last week. Yeah, how was Seattle? Did you have any chowder?

Did you have any chowder? Did we have any chowder, Six? I didn't have any. I specifically told you to have chowder. I you have any chowder? Did we have any chowder, Six? I didn't have any. I specifically told you to have chowder. I mean, I don't think Lewis did either. Terps might have, I guess. I'm shocked. I don't think I did. Chowder is seafood though, right?

Like, I don't eat seafood, man. I don't eat any fish or meat or anything. So you're a vegan? No, I'm not a vegan. Vegetarian. I don't eat chicken. I don't eat fish. I don't eat meat. So make't eat fish. I don't eat meat.

So make a wish. Even clams? Like clams? I don't eat a clam either. You feel bad for the clams now? No. You free them from their shell prison and put them in a delicious chowder in a bread bowl and you eat them. I would not, would not eat a clam.

What did you think of Seattle though? It's a cool city, isn't it? It is. It's cool. Yeah. It was really fun. We took a couple of days out and looked around. We can't say much about it.

Yeah, I know. Tell me when we finish recording. It's awkward. Yeah. Well, this is something to talk about because part of my sort of understanding is that all I do is I do things and then share them with people. Like whenever I'm, I used to, I used to make vlogs of me going to places or still do sometimes kind of the idea is to to share that experience with with the audience and sort of let them kind of get a picture of what what it's like and so it's

kind of unusual to go away somewhere and feel like we can't really talk about it but we obviously we can say that we we we went to to to see valve because um we can't say that you have to cut that we can we can say that that's fine we so we met um some people me and turks met some people from valve at gdc and we talked to them about jingle jam and what we'd been um doing and they were kind of very now now it's gone it's very silent in here okay very silent because obviously pflex works with valve everybody is concentrating on not breaking an nda right now that's why that's basically what everybody's furiously concentrating on what they're it's like it's like a an intense game of chess all of our brains are whizzing and worrying and we're like what can i say how do i filter myself here well i think normally i operate

without filter but now all of a sudden i have to filter myself so we we basically I think... Normally, I operate without filter, but now, all of a sudden, I have to filter myself. So, we basically met them at GDC, and they were like, we'd like to talk to you guys more about, you know, stuff, the jingle jam and stuff like this. And also, just generally, if you're there,

it would be good, if you're coming up, it would be good to talk to you and have you talk to some of the teams about what you do. Because, basically, when we were talking to people at Valve, it was clear that they were

very, very smart people. Oh, yeah, they're clever lads. And lasses, obviously. We would ask them the dumbest questions in the world, okay? And then they would answer them. They'd just be like, oh, that's easy. I can tell you that straight away. And we'd be like, ah, that's how that thing works.

Amazing. They would ask us a question, and it would be not the dumbest question in the world, but it would be a question that we could answer easily because it's from our world, right? The world of, from the point of view of Twitch streamers and YouTubers, it's like content creators and Steam curators and kind of-

Professional podcasters. We had a lot of answers for them and they had a lot of answers for us. I sort of said, if we can get some sort of help with the Jingle Jam, that would be great. And I think that's what we got. So I think overall, good trip. Yeah. And we also saw some stuff that we with the jingle jam, that would be great. And I think that's what we got. So I think overall, good trip. Yeah.

And we also saw some stuff that we can't talk about, you know, and that's it really. That's all we could say. Yeah. I don't really want to talk too much about Valve because people... Yeah, we don't want to tell people stuff that we can't really talk about.

What I will say though, is that we ate a lot of delicious food. But no chowder. In their building. Yeah. But that's, I guess that that's all we can say. So wait, have they moved to a new office? Because they were in Bellevue.

They're in Bellevue, but they've only been there a couple of years in the office that they're at at the moment. Okay, yeah. I don't think I've seen the new offices. No. Okay. So yeah, I mean, it's very, very nice. Really, really nice place.

I mean, Valve is always... Everyone's always talked about Valve because they're kind of very secretive. They, very nice. Really, really nice place. I mean, Valve is always, everyone's always talked about Valve because they're kind of very secretive. They're very mysterious. They're very, I guess, like the North Korea of game design. They're very closed off. They're very powerful. I think the thing is,

they've got a lot of cachet because the games that they've made and everything is so huge. I mean, they seem to do things differently to other games companies. So hang on, let's just clear this up quickly. They're like North Korea because they're secretive, not because they're hated by most of the rest of the gaming industry. Yeah, they're not trying to build weapons of mass destruction in Bellevue. But I don't think

I think it's they are. There's a lot of fondness for them because of the games that they've made. I know they haven't made games for a few years now. I don't know. I really like them, all the people that I've met working for Valve. Like you said, they're always very smart, very competent people. Absolutely everyone there was wonderful. It's ridiculous, right? You just talk to someone and you're like, what do you do?

So when I go to TI, I'll talk to people and they'll be running something or they'll be programming something or making something. programmed, so they're making something, they're doing something, or they're working on the production for the, for the Dota tournament and everything. And I'm like, uh, so what is your background? Like you're a sound engineer. They're like, oh no, no. My background is I'm a plumber or whatever, but, uh, I just turned my hand to this piece of software and made it better and did this, that, and the other. So it's like they just find these really smart people and they just say, hey, you like so-and-so, don't you? Yeah, okay, you're now the guy in charge of X

and you just go away and do that. It's amazing. I don't think they necessarily even say that. I think they say, would you like to come work at Valve? The person is like, to do what? And then it's like, well, you could do this. Yeah, they don't just have like a job, do they? They're just like, hey, you want to do this? I think this is the thing, like talking to everyone at Valve, they're not

like isolationist or like shy or like kind of like secretive necessarily. They are very much open, but it's kind of not there because they don't have sort of very fixed roles. It's all very kind of, you can kind of do what you want. Yeah, yeah. And so therefore... But you need to do something. But no one is necessarily outward facing necessarily i think i think from my impression they don't oh and from my knowledge they don't really have a pr team they don't really have no i don't think they do i don't they don't really have any sort of agreed way of talking to people and as a result um the whole process is that you know if you want to talk to people about what you're doing and

stuff you could do it um but other people might not be happy with the with you doing that at the company. And so I don't know, necessarily, I think what it leads to is that it's no one's job, really, to sort of do that. And so as a result of the culture, it kind of becomes what appears to be kind of quite unapproachable. I mean, Eric Johnson is like the main guy that he's like the go to guy for any kind of public facing business stuff. Yeah, like the main guy. He's like the go-to guy for any kind of public-facing business stuff. He's the guy that's generally made himself the most available as, if you want to talk to anyone, talk to me. Because he's a very senior guy there. He's been there a long time. He knows Valve inside out and he's like a Valve guy. But I think most people, yeah, you ask them, there's general kind of Valve-y answers for things.

You'll ask a question and you'll get pretty much the same answer yeah, you ask them, like there's general kind of Valve-y answers for things. Like you'll ask a question and you'll get pretty much the same answer from whoever you ask there. I'm not saying they're like a hive mind, but I do wonder if one of the things they've worked on is a chip that can be inserted into the brain. And if someone asks a question, Eric Johnson pushes a button and says,

don't answer that question. And the little voice pops in their head and says, don't answer that question. They just sort of go, I don't know what you're talking about or I can't comment on that. They just suddenly go like a little bit limp when you ask them a question. Yeah, they just sort of, no comment.

Like, wow, they got Eric'd. Fair enough. It feels like that a little bit. Like there's a kind of, they know what they can and can't say. I mean, they've got to though. And every game company, every big game company is like that. I mean, Blizzard is the same. I assume so. Yeah, they have yeah they have i mean but if you look at like blue hole right yeah like they

seem to say whatever the fuck they want and of course that's that's the thing it's an example of what happens when you have people just spouting shit like uh brendan says things like uh there won't be microtransactions until we're out of alpha and then microtransactions turn up and all this kind of stuff yeah so i kind of wonder if some companies actually just think oh i can talk to the press no problem and they'll say stuff and they just think oh people will forget yeah but they don't forget anymore and i think valve knows that they never promise anything just tell people to be ready when it's ready don't answer any questions with directly if anyone asks you a question you don't want to answer just say i can't answer that or something you know don't do what what some companies do and just everybody just run in their fucking mouths.

And then you end up in a load of trouble and fans go, you promised us this. It's a bit of an evolution with companies, though. I think when they release their first title and they're not set up, you know, completely 100% efficiently to handle the release of that and everything that goes with it sort of thing. You probably will get people talking about stuff that maybe they that goes with it sort of thing. You probably will get people talking about stuff that maybe they shouldn't be talking about or whatever. But then I think when these companies sort of progress on, they get a couple of IPs under them and stuff, it changes, right?

Then they start becoming a little bit more tight with their information and stuff. Because if they're working on a project that's going to take four years for them to release right you can't let people know about it beforehand because you know it's it's still it's still competition it's still an industry that they operate in and if they've got this great idea that's going to take them a long time to implement you know somebody else could come along and do it in half the time and beat them right sort of thing so they got to be super careful i mean if you look at the vibe the vibe took like years to to come out and when it finally did come out you know it was like

it was ready it was definitely ready i mean i'm very happy with with my one i'm waiting for some some killer apps for it but it's like oh yeah get some get some dating simulators shower with your dad vr those boobs boobs are so soft and realistic. You're there against the wall with two cushions strapped to it. Oh, I can feel them. So, I think, yeah, like you said, it's a bit of an evolution. I think that Valve has existed for a long time and they found that they just don't need these certain things. I think Valve works partly because it's been going on for such a long time, partly because of the people who work there have to have the right mindset for it.

I feel like they're a little bit like gentleman scientists. They're almost like they kind of don't have to do anything, but they like to and they want to sort of do stuff. They come into work and they're like, oh, what should I work on today? Oh, let's work on this cool thing that's going to be really good and do that. And I think as a result, some things fall by the wayside. But as a result, you get these incredibly innovative, creative things coming out that make up for that. And it's kind of something which you've heard about before. Like you hear about companies saying, oh, on Fridays,

every Friday, just don't, you know, everyone come in and don't do anything. Just do whatever you want to do on Fridays. What companies do that? Well, I think that was Google. Simcoe Industries Limited, for instance. But I think, what was it that came out of that? Was it Gmail? Was it Google Drive?

There's some famous thing at Google that was very successful, came out of these Fridays where people were just like, I'm just going to do what I want to do today. I think a lot of stuff has come out of Google from that. With creative jobs, you can't just pigeonhole people into like nine to five strict. You have to sit on your chair all day and you can only have one hour for lunch

at one o'clock and stuff. You know, like I think if you let people go off and have time and flexibility to do stuff. I mean, you can get robots to do that job. Exactly. If you've got jobs where they might as well be replaced by a robot, then there's no point. But if you've got jobs that require a quarter of a brain, then people are smart and a really valuable resource.

And they're often like, I found working here that it's worth investing in people because they'll pay you back in the ways that you don't expect yeah you know you can't look at someone and say oh you know i pay him 30k so he better make me 50 50k of dildos that i can shift on fucking you know dildos.com forward slash they'll pay you back in ways you don't expect like like a sneaky hand job under the, that kind of stuff. So no, it was really, really interesting. And I kind of don't want to say any more about it other than like, I think it was a little bit culture shock for me to go there, right? Yeah. Because it was so, even though we have a sort of similar structure in our office,

i.e. a lot of, but for us, it's different. Because the reason that it kind of works here is because a lot of the people in this office are kind of independent. Yeah, yeah. But also, we don't have any managers We don't have any bosses either particularly other than me and Terps and Terps is almost never here And I don't know any answers so or what does Terps do when he's not in the office? Where is he? He's kind of, well he's me, people schmoozing, watching superhero movies by himself. He's playing Hearthstone No, Terps is busy doing 101 things like you know So and he always seems busy when I'm there or is it just when I'm there everyone looks busy because they think So, no, Terps is busy doing 101 things. Like, you know, so...

He always seems busy when I'm there. Or is it just when I'm there, everyone looks busy because they think the old man is here? There's somebody, we got a guest. Yeah. The visit from the old man. The old man's in today. Meaning the owner. Who's this guy?

What does he do? You're fired. Wait, you do something important? You're hired. For that half price. Exactly. I'd love to be that guy. I'd love to be that guy.'d love to be even though kind of we have a simple well because there's a lot of independent people they are kind of

working for themselves valve it feels like a lot of the time people are kind of i'd love to share some of the little anecdotes we've got but you know we like like walking around and seeing some of these people was asking what they're working on and have a one guy tracking down you know chinese key resellers and and shutting them down or you know like you know it's kind of like i think they sometimes it looks to me like they're just having fun yeah like like you know it seems like a really really good it's really good environment to like foster yeah it is it's very cool being in the offices it's uh you really feel like yeah like it doesn't feel like, like you said, it doesn't feel like it's like nine to five. Like I've been to Mrs. F's office and it's just everybody staring at the screen just tapping away and phones and work.

It feels like work is happening. Work is being done. And then you go to Valve and you're like, everyone just seems to be hanging out. It seems really cool. A lot of those places, it's the illusion of work, though. I mean, we've talked about this so many times. Well, yeah, but the thing thing is because if you go back to valve a year later they're like oh let me show you this and you're like oh shit yeah you guys have been busy like they actually they're doing work but it's not the kind of work where you can walk around and just hear like a massive call

center where you can just the sound of work being done a valve you walk around there's a guy drinking a coffee looking out a window and a year boom, there's the Vive or whatever. I think the big problem with Valve, though, is that the work that you expect to be done sometimes isn't done, though. Like the Battle Pass for Dota. Well, that's out now, though, isn't it? It is out now.

I think also it's more that they have Valve time or whatever. Ready when it's ready. Yeah, exactly. Soon TM and all that kind of stuff. That's kind of a part and parcel of the of the environment and of the thing it's like you they'll say i'll have a look at this thing we're doing and then we'll be like oh that's interesting and a year later they'll they'll say oh it's done and we'll be like what's done and they're like this thing we've been working on and be like but that's not what you were working on a year ago yeah i mean the thing is you know, it does come with a guarantee.

There's obviously, like, a high standard. Like, you know, the stuff that they do release is often very good. It's iconic. I mean, it is. Like, Half-Life, Portal, Dota, CSGO. I mean, I can see a parallel with, for example, with us, with Shadow of Israfil, because, you know, that was obviously now our game.

Well, that was like... Okay, shut up, Sips. I think it's true, though. I mean, I can see, like, we stopped doing it because it had to be up to a certain standard, right? Yes, yeah. And it became this incredible weight around our neck. Yeah, that's it. And everyone who originally was passionate about it had moved on to to other things that they were passionate about yeah and they'd gotten tired of

making this this thing and so i was left on my own thinking okay how do i get people to do this and the only answer really is to find people who are passionate about it and want to do it yeah um and certainly level with you i don't even really know what it was well so it was it was our youtube series that we did back in the day in Minecraft. And it was kind of a story, plus it was world building. It was kind of a bit... But you were playing Minecraft, right? Yeah, but it was kind of all scripted in a sense.

We had a lot of people coming in and playing, almost actors in game. So originally, it was kind of like this thing where we had other people, all of our friends playing as characters, and it was kind of like we created this kind of living world with a story in it that Simon didn't know anything about what was happening. So it was a little bit like doing D&D, I guess.

Right. In Minecraft. And this was like, you know, seven or eight years ago now. But every time I go to an event, every time anyone meets me, any time I open a piece of fan mail, it's like, you know, what happened to Shadow of Israel? When's the next episode of Shadow of Israel coming out? It's one of these things that I feel kind of like

it's constantly nagging me and I'm powerless to do anything about it and frustrated about it because I feel like, and even if we, and the longer it goes on, the worse it gets, right? Because it's like, well, it's been seven years now since we did that. You know, how, what about our new audience? Are they going to remember it? Are they going to play it?

Like with Valve, like, you know, how many people are you going to meet that have never played Half-Life 2 and, you know, didn't grow up with Half-Life 2 like we did? How many people have come along since then? And also, is this still a thing on YouTube that works? Like, is this narrative Minecraft content going to be what people are interested in seeing? Probably not, you know.

So, you know, if Valve were to release, you know, episode three of Half-Life 2 or whatever, or if they were to release, you know, if they were to start working on Half-Life 3, where would they start? Like, how would it be like a kind of a thing that they could could think about how much pressure and demand there is to get it right you know when you're a company like valve and you yeah you've got this incredibly high standard like how much polish does it need and and and you know you know i can imagine like for us like when we when we if i was to try and make our thing which is nothing compared to it, right?

Nothing. It needs talented coders and stuff, and I'm just an idiot. But it's a very daunting task in my mind to try and do Shadow of Israel, which is why I haven't done it. And so, yeah, you may well laugh, Sips, that I'm trying to compare myself to the most successful games company one of them all time but he is and he's right some parallels there fine I know there are parallels welcome to welcome to to take we get

you it's just funny because you said yeah you know valve and shadows of israel it was just the delivery it was more than the actual content, I guess. Well, it's interesting. So we went to Valve. I mean, I think everything we've said is probably okay. Yeah, we haven't really said anything. It's probably fine. Yeah.

We watched a lot of movies while we were there, Flax. Did you watch Avengers Infinity War? We did. In IMAX 3D. Okay, warning. We're not going to do any spoilers. No. Okay, promise.

But it's a good fucking movie and I really enjoyed it. I did too, yeah. I'm not like a huge fan of superhero movies. Like I was saying on stream yesterday, there's so many superhero movies that I haven't seen. Like I've never seen

a Guardians of the Galaxy or... Oh, they're really good. I haven't seen any of the Iron Man movies. Doctor Strange is really good. You haven't seen. Like, I've never seen a Guardians of the Galaxy or... Oh, they're really good. I haven't seen any of the Iron Man movies. Doctor Strange is really good. You haven't seen any of the Iron Man movies? I haven't seen Thor. I haven't seen shit. So, honestly, like, Sips has never seen a Marvel movie, basically.

What the fuck? I watch the Netflix series, though. I like those. I like Daredevil and Jessica Jones. They're not in Infinity War, though. I know, but, like, there's like there's still Marvel Infinity War is the last like what the last one but a sort of

a very a much a set up relying on the last sort of 20 films I can't believe you watched Infinity War having not seen any of the previous movies

like you're gonna be completely lost no I haven't seen that Thor Ragnarok he hasn't seen Thor any of the Thor he hasn't seen any of the Iron Man he hasn't seen the new Spider-Man

he hasn't seen Black Panther I don't think you've seen a single any of the Iron Man. He hasn't seen the new Spider-Man. He hasn't seen Black Panther. I don't think he's seen a single one. Terps wanted me to see it because he was like, I want to see what it's like for somebody who doesn't watch these movies, like what they think of it sort of thing. And I thought it was pretty good. It was entertaining. Like the effects and stuff were awesome.

It was very funny at parts. Like it was just a good movie. I really enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. I liked it a lot too. So if you you're into marvel or not we recommend i mean some of the characters i didn't know like at all like i didn't i didn't realize to me and you were like oh he could do that that's cool i was like okay this guy's like a spider and a man. That's unbelievable. Some of them just seem to just be pulled out of someone's ass somewhere. Like who?

Well, like that Vision guy. What the fuck? You have to have seen the movie, you wad. He just seemed like a total Zed Lister from like the 60s or something. No, he's like super powerful. Yeah, he didn't seem that powerful in that movie. Oh, you say. My whole sort of recollection of that guy was just crying all the time basically. he's like super powerful yeah he didn't seem that powerful in that movie like it might my whole sort of recollection of that guy was just crying all the time basically

i feel like it was yeah pretty rough i feel like um i feel like the movie was a little bit like a slash who would ask who would win jimmy like i think that when you smush all these people together it's like oh who's who's most powerful it's the culmination of of literally years of Marvel movies no but you know what I've watched them all apart I haven't seen Black Panther yet but I've watched all the other ones multiple times and the fact it was building up to this I think is really cool and this the payoff was was worth it it's the payoff for all these years of movie watching and a little hints and the building of the universe and everything and i mean i read marvel comics when i was a kid and i read like you know not the infinity war but um there was

another war this one was with galactus i can't remember what it was called anyway it was like the same shit like the front of the comic was just all the fucking heroes yeah i remember galactus i used to read some of the comics when i was younger i used to collect the cards as well the marvel cards right you know they don't have access to galactus yeah it's like some so it's like sony or fox or something turps is telling me apparently it's the same deal with silver surfer they can't do anything they can't have silver surfer who is the herald of galactus so he's the guy who turns up and says yo you're fucked on a surfboard

which is like the most bro thing i can think of that's why silver surf was always kind of a thing he's like yo what's up surfs surfs on your planet and just goes oh yo you're fucked galactus yeah shit whoa hang tight y'all just fucking pieces on his surf and uh apparently um because we went to while we were in seattle we went to Seattle, we went to this Marvel exhibit. They had it at the Museum of Popular Culture. Right. Which is pretty good. It just had a bunch of the costumes and some art and early stuff and whatever.

And I was reading the bit about Guardians of the Galaxy. And apparently, it's like they completely reinvented it for modern audiences. Apparently, it's like they completely reinvented it like for modern audiences because the characters were just old and they didn't really feature much or do much. And it was it was a completely different thing. And then I guess a couple of guys got together and just sort of like reinvented them recently, like for the movie adaptations or whatever. What, the heroes? I think so. Yeah. What, the heroes? I think so, yeah.

I was just saying. Yeah, I mean, like if you look at superhero movies prior to X-Men, the first X-Men movie, which was not a Marvel production. That was Sony, I think. Again, all the X-Men are, it's a Sony slash Fox thing, right? So Marvel, there are no X-Men. Like Wolverine and the X-Men, none of them showed up in Infinity War or any of the extended universe, which is crazy. And Fantastic Four is the same, isn't it?

The Fantastic Four. infinity war or any of the extended universe which is crazy and fantastic four is the same isn't it the fantastic four and i mean in all this stuff in the comics of course like uh you know reed richards is like front and center because he's like the smartest guy on the planet yeah so he would be the guy saying this is what we're going to do and they've kind of passed that role on to dr strange even though he definitely wouldn't have been that sort of much of an influence and everything like that it was pretty cool though i like that i i haven't seen the movie it's very very good we watched it the other day with the kids and they really enjoy it but um okay it's it's very cool and i think the the thing is the comics were actually pretty cheesy like there are some great bits don't get me wrong i love the comics but the idea of just taking those and sticking them straight on the screen no no no no you have to

adapt this shit you've got a completely different audience than you had 50 years ago when these comics yeah of course yeah so a lot of the time people are complaining i thought the vision was miscast because his relationship with so-and-so and blah blah in episode 47 of the incredible hulk when hulk reveals that he likes pop tarts i preferred that episode to the movie so no you can't do that you're talking about literally decades worth of comics and they're about to bore them down to a two-hour movie so they take the essence of the character they modernize them a bit they're a bit more smart talking and funny like thor is not like thor in the comics at all like thor is a super boring

try hard warrior type yeah he's like pretty funny in the movie right i mean thor ragnarok man literally it's literally a comedy it's not a superhero movie at all it's a comedy movie but with superheroes in that and that bald guy from guardians of the galaxy actually killed me i was yeah he's hilarious crying with laughter it was oh i mean guardians of the galaxy is like a prime example they took a comic that was it was kind of subversive and funny ish but it wasn't like Deadpool which was like completely subversive and different Guardians of the Galaxy was kind of I mean they completely revamped it as we should make these characters funny and they got a funny actors in and they have great lines and stuff I mean he's hilarious right well they've leaned into

the comedy sort of aspect of it because it's done really well. I mean, Thor Ragnarok is a great example of basically just a comedy superhero movie, really. Yeah. It's just really funny throughout and really fun. I mean, yeah, they do continually reboot these things in different ways. I mean, Spider-Man's rebooted like six or seven times. But they finally got it right. Spider-Man Homecoming is legit a good superhero movie like i really enjoyed it i found spider-man in infinity

war without spoiling anything because like and again being the last time i saw spider-man movie was the one with fucking kirsten dunst in it like the you know the like the first one yeah yeah toby mcguire sam raimi directed it yeah so, and Spider-Man in that was okay, I guess. Like, you know, he's just sort of like did his thing. But I found the Spider-Man in Infinity War, it was like watching Batman and Robin. Like he was just like, he just seemed so sort of like, hey, hey guys, hey, I'm here.

I'm ready to fight crime. He just seemed like he aged him down. But that's knowing that the spider-man is the the biggest selling merch by a long way in there oh so they have to like and so it's kids and it's every kid you know love spider-man it's also spider-man spider-man is meant to be like that he's meant to be that age and that kind of smart talking he's in danger but he doesn't even really seem to he just a wisecracking like that was what spidey always was like your friendly neighborhood spider-man he wasn't meant to be like a badass and so in later issues when he got like

the venom suit i'm nerd now here but anyway when he gets like the venom suit it gets all these darker timelines and shit like that uh they they tried to make him i think they thought that in the 90s because comics suddenly got all different in the 90s. Like there was a big change. In the 80s, the comics were all just fresh and they had the comic code of conduct and stuff on the stamp on the cover. So the parents knew there'd be no swearing on nudity and nothing like that.

And then you go into the 90s and the 2000s and they had a new audience. And the movies are a reflection of that. I think it's because it's a newer new way. It's a little bit like the kids growing up with it though. Like I feel like that happened to Harry Potter as well, right? As the Harry Potter movies and books went on, the audience who was watching them grew up with them.

And it kind of had to grow more adult as a result. But when it comes to nowadays, it's a bit strange for a kid who's, let's say, 11, to start with Harry Potter, because the first ones are maybe a little bit too young and the last ones maybe a bit too old you know and it's so so reading the series is kind of then they don't really have a very consistent tone um what age did you start out with harry potter what was like 26 27 yeah like yeah i've never

read the books no i watched the movies i didn't grow up with har with Harry Potter because actually I was fully grown by the time it came out. Yeah, I was having sex and smoking and getting drunk. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy this stuff. Sure it does. We've been through this stuff. Just because you like Star Wars, don't you? Which ones? Yeah, I liked it when I was a kid.

Kids film? Yeah, I grew up with it. I don't watch the old Star Wars very often. Like if they're on TV, I might stick them on. Try and get the kids into Star Wars just because I think it's good education in movie history and shit. But I'm not sitting around wanking about Star Wars all day. Well, a lot of grown-ass men are. And then they complain when their new Star Wars movies are a bit kid-friendly.

They're like, oh. Yeah, exactly. It's ridiculous. It's a new audience. It's a product. I mean, if you think it's some holy grail, guess what? Disney owns that shit now. And you can go back and be nostalgic

about Star Wars all you like but they're just going to make movies that's it I've seen a lot of reviewers say oh my god it's just going to be Disney movies you're going to be sick of Star Wars and I'm probably Did you see that solo the new Star Wars movie

I've seen the trailer yeah and have you seen Donald Glover's new music video thing I've seen the trailer yeah and have you seen Donald Glover's new music video thing I've seen it I saw that too This is America This is America Guns in my area

it was something else right I think everybody went nuts for it I saw it last night and I was like I was just blown away

I just he's just he's just he's just dancing like just the video of him, it's amazing. It's good, yeah. It's very compelling.

I don't think it's not sending as complex a message as people seem to be making out. No, I don't think it's... I think it's a pretty straightforward message. Yeah. And the song is okay. It's okay. The song's okay.

It's not my favorite Donald Glover song. No. My favorite Gambino song, but it's Dease. But just watching him... Yeah, the video is something else. It's very my favorite Donald Glover song. No. My favorite Gambino song, but it's Deese. But just watching him like... Yeah, the video is something else. It's very artistic. Yeah, I was just... Yeah, man, really good.

Just him all sweaty and fucking running around. Man, I was thinking... You liked that, did you? Yeah, I liked it. And so, I mean, that's maybe weirdly... I think he's the only thing I'm excited for in the new Star Wars movie. Because I've heard...

He's cool. I mean, he's multi-talented. Have you seen Atlanta? That's pretty good. He's in that. No in that no i haven't oh it's very good about it i do want to watch i mean i watched all of community and he was he was really good in that and i remember really enjoying community if you haven't seen but all the stuff like he's not he's not just that guy is he like we haven't seen abbott again i haven't seen the guy who played abbott doing much yeah that's the guy what is his name joel mck? He hasn't done as well. Donald Glover was like the guy to come out of that series with the most stuff going on now.

He's gone from community to being bigger than when he was on community. Well, I mean, I guess Dan Harmon's doing Rick and Morty and stuff, so that's like- Right, but he wasn't on the camera is what I'm saying. I'm talking about the acting talent. It's true, yeah. Alison Brie's done some good stuff. Was it Brie? Alison Brie?

She's hot. I'm a big Alison Brie fan. Let me just Google Alison Brie just to remind myself. Is it Brie? Or Brie? It's spelled like the cheese. How hard is she on the Hurley scale? I mean, which era Hurley are we talking about?

Any. We're talking Liz Hurley in that movie where she played the devil? She's fine all the time. What was it I saw out of Sabrina? I think I saw her in The Post. The IMDB. The Washington Post movie, The Post.

It's good. I quite enjoyed that. Sweet. Good God. What are you looking at now, Liz Hurley? Again. Liz Hurley is the dazzled.

I'm actually just looking at a Google image. It's like every three months you search up. Lots of pictures of her in her bathing suit, which is... Oh, yeah. There's one of her as like a giant woman in a bathing suit pointing a trident at him.

That's pretty fucking hot. What are you looking at now? What are you looking at? Pictures of Liz Hurley. Literally just pictures of Liz Hurley. There's a guy with a trident? She's got a trident. This is when the devil is super angry with Brendan Fraser.

She's Satan, right? Have you not seen Bedazzled? I don't think so. Oh, it's really good. So it's a remake of a... What was his name? It's a remake? How old is it?

Oh, it's from the 90s, this movie. It was Brendan Fraser when he was not looking like he was about to die. You know, it's like this is like... Why, is he dying? This is probably his... No, but he looks like he's going to die. Oh, he doesn's like, this is like, this is probably his, no, but he looks like he's going to die. So this is like, he's a regular schlub. He can't get this girl he likes. And he does a deal with the devil played by Liz Hurley in her best role and look in the

heart as she's ever looked. I'll tell you that. And the deal is that he's going to wish for stuff and she's going to give him like a taste of this other life. But of course, cause she's the devil, there's always a twist. All right. And at the end or something she owns his soul if he if there's some kind of fuck up anyway so it's it's a good movie it's a really good comedy and brenda frazier's very funny it was directed by egon yeah yeah yeah yeah he did a lot of stuff he did he died sadly yeah yeah he was he was he did um groundhog day and and bedazzled Yeah, he did a bunch of movies, I think. Oh, I didn't know that. I watched Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story movie.

The one with John C. Reilly in it. Oh, yeah. Have you ever seen that one where he's kind of like a country, it's sort of like a Johnny Cash sort of spoof thing. I've heard about it. Any good? Fuck yeah, it was really funny. Yeah, I liked it a lot.

It was on the American Netflix while we were in Seattle. I just was, as you do, browsing through Netflix trying to find something to watch. Like Anchorman funny sort of thing, you know? Right, right. It's supposed to be sort of a parody of the Johnny Cash movie biopic. Yeah. Walk the Line.

Walk the Line? Yeah. It's funny. It's good. But Jossie is is very hit and miss i think a lot of his stuff feels like he's fucking hilarious though man he's say and he's he's such a good actor too like it's crazy but he's very funny and like tim and eric and a bunch of other stuff i watched that tal tal taled taledega taledega nights i watched that

as well because it was like you know oh you watch this, you'll probably like this. I was like, oh, okay. So I watched that too. That was pretty good. Some of those recommendations are fucking hilarious. And then I watched all of, on the flight back home, the flight back home went so fucking quick because I downloaded all of Dirty Money on Netflix,

which was like seven hours. It's like a documentary series about like, you know, scams and scandals. Like they had like the Volkswagen emissions scandal. They had like a payday loan scandal. There is an episode on a maple syrup heist in Canada, which was really weird, but it's still interesting. And there's an episode on Trump just like sort of talking about some of like the weird shady shit that he did sort of in the 90s when he sort of almost blew all his money and went bankrupt sort of thing. And the lead up to him sort of like running for president and everything too. It was really good.

If you want to watch something good on Netflix, fucking dirty money is it was excellent i really liked it i watched every episode back to back on the on the flight home damn before i knew it can i can i can i ask you a question sips as as a canadian i want to i'm trying to understand something right okay i'm trying to understand nard war the human serviette you know this guy right oh it sounds familiar but it's imagine a guy with no no no he's an interviewer he interviews like musicians he interviews rappers a lot so he's got like he wears like a scottish style yes yes the thing on the top he's got long hair yeah yeah yeah nard war the human serviette. I don't understand why he's seen as such a – I mean, I think he's hilarious. But it surprises me that this guy would be popular because he's such a weird guy.

And it seems like a very Canadian thing. Yeah, he was on Much Music. So Much Music in Canada was Canadian MTV, basically. Much Music. It had its own channel, its own it had its own channel like its own cable channel and he was that yeah that's where i remember him from he was on okay he's on much music like as as i was growing up sort of thing but he wasn't on it tons like he would just appear and do like the odd interview here and there sort of thing like that guy with the dog what was the

the talking dog interviews where the microphone is in like a paw have you seen that one he's like um and the triumph the uh triumph the talking comedy dog insult comedy dog yeah that was um triumph is hilarious fuck it's so funny yeah the guy that so the guy that did that did triumph um worked with conan o'brien on a bunch of stuff but he did um he did a whole bunch of skits for uh saturday night live like he did like the ambiguously gay duo skit did you ever see like the cartoon for that it was really funny it was like from the 90s uh and then he did um saturday tv fun house as well which was just fucking it was a bit like um like wonder shows and you ever see wonder shows and no it was just

a little bit like um what was that show with bob odenkirk and uh they're all from the same sort of um those guys all have worked together in the past and done stuff together and they all have a very similar sense of humor and stuff and it's a little bit sort of out there but very very funny it's you know it's sort of like tim and eric now but this is like back in the you know like in the like 90s going into the late 90s sort of thing yeah i mean there was a character called ed the sock from from a show called ed's night party which is a show that i think most people have forgotten you know what the weird thing is is i feel like a lot of these shows you remember this yeah so a lot of these shows in the 90s there seem to

be a lot more comedy sketch shows given to just a random dude or a couple of people it's like just go and make a sketch show and i don't see so many sketch shows now and i'm not sure why i mean key and peel came along but that was like an internet thing that they then went to comedy central right but where where is the next triumph the insult comic dog where is the next nard war the human serviette i think people are putting too much yeah faith in vlogging and shit maybe this is not getting a fucking sketch show it's just the way that things change and maybe this is a vow thing right maybe it's too much people too many people being control freaks and not enough like just seeing talent and saying hey you make a funny thing you know do whatever you want there's like a whole bunch of stuff that comes through like

adult swim and stuff that's a bit like that you know they they sort of they they get stuff that isn't like your sort of mainstream story i can't fucking louis i don't know what the hell happened in seattle but i am burping like all the time like since i've been home i don't know what's happened to my innards. Like they're just completely fucked. Anyway. Do you know what I think it is? I actually blame The Simpsons because I think most stuff that people make nowadays seems to be some fucking animated show.

Yeah. And I think everybody saw The Simpsons and said it has to be animated and everything's animated now. Well, I think. That's what I think it is i think i think in a in a lot of ways though like especially if if if your comedy is like more out there and harder for actual people to to portray it it's it's much easier obviously to to animate something right you know like because otherwise if you have to like start dressing people up in costumes getting sets and stuff like that you know like sketch but you don't need that for it to be funny right like you don't need it but it just depends on on the on the type of comedy you know if you're going for like a very

very sort of like visual sort of slapstick sort of thing that that relies on a lot of stuff like that it might just be easier to do it animated maybe you know i think that i think comedy i mean in the uk comedy is fucking dead as a doornail it makes me yeah i think um the only thing that i've seen recently that is still not great but sometimes sometimes makes me laugh mrs brown's boys no it's not that day fuck me i can't handle that show i mean there was always shit like that like i don't think mrs brown's boys is like a bad thing it's my it's my most hated show but if loads of fucking people like it that's the shit they should be fucking putting on tv well people people want to watch it put it on tv

what's that show that with lee mack in it the one where he's he's like a dad and he's got a wife and and it's not it's not a great show okay i'm not recommending it but i mean in terms of what's actually out there in in brit Britain right now for comedy shows. It's just all panel shows. And the thing is with this show, too, I find that they try to put a joke in every fucking piece of dialogue. You know what I mean? Right. And it becomes actually tiresome after a while.

Because it's just like, oh, just, you know, lead up to something that's really funny instead of just constantly sniping like every fucking sentence for like a one-liner or joke or some there are a few shows there are a few shows friday night dinners i recommend that if you have never heard of it it's very good it's got um tamsin gregan it's got the guy who was in uh it's got two of the guys actually that were in the in-betweeners the two sort of main guys as brothers. And the gist of it is they go to their parents' house for dinner on a Friday night because they're Jewish, so it's like the Friday night dinner thing. Right.

And it's very, very, very funny. And it's sweet because it's like you get to know the family. So a lot of the jokes are the kind of thing that you can imagine your parents or your dad or your mom or your grandmother doing something like that. It's like the jokes, they're not just making jokes about some politician or some celebrity like a lot of the panel shows do. They just pick a celebrity that people know that is associated with a thing and bam, that's a punchline right there, right? This is actual comedy. So that's good.

The Detectorists is very, very good. I've watched that. You can watch that on iPlayer. Love that show. That was quite fun. It was very English, very much so. Very, very yeah good though good english very good it's got a mackenzie crook in it who's it has he actually wrote and directed it i didn't know he did that but he did yeah yeah he did and i mean it is i thought the detectorist was great um i'd like more shit like that like the stuff

that you know where is this where is the black adder of this generation? You know what I like? You know what I find funny and I watch like fairly often? I watch Have I Got News For You. Fuck, I love that show. That's a good show. It's so fucking funny. Holy shit. Like it's a show that can still actually get like gut laughs from me like almost consistently every week. It's nuts.

Yeah. It is very funny. I mean, I think that they're still making alan partridge stuff they're still making fucking red dwarf just let it die for the love of god wow they really you need yeah you need the new ones of these you need to find the next people who are going to make you something that like red dwarf people love and has legs right something like black adder that people still fucking watch where where is that coming from and i don't see it and i just think whatever is happening in comedy the bbc has to be the

forefront because they can actually gamble right you've got all your main shows you've got your fucking strictly's you've got your mrs brown's all this shit fucking find some budget for some guys and just say just make something and find some actual funny people the it crowd was pretty funny yeah that was okay that was pretty series one was good i think it fucking seriously dipped after that but jesus no i don't remember it's something right at least it's something at least it was something yeah but yeah i know it's something man i've been watching the um the most recent season of um kirby enthusiasm because i didn't even realize it came out and holy shit like yeah just consistently i can't think of one season that's actually bad in that show

it's it's just really funny is that the one where he has to go before the the islamic council to decide whether to lift the yes yes i got a fat one yeah i love that yeah it's really good it's and his friend tells him well he meets up with salman rushdie for lunch right yeah let me tell you something fat was sex the best sex i fucking. I fucking love when he goes to Funkhauser's new girlfriend's house and she serves them tap water. He's like, is this tap water? She's like, well, yeah. And then the whole thing goes through and everybody hates the tap water.

And then, you know, when they do like the accidental on purpose text, she finds out that Marty's done one to her. And she's like, do you like my water, Marty? No, no. It tastes like I put a straw in a frog's ass. It makes me barf every time I drink it. Oh, fuck. It was so funny.

You know the guy who plays Marty Funkhouser? I didn't know this. He was like in the 80s. He was Super Dave Osborne. He was Super Dave. I had no idea. You didn't know that fucking super dave was pretty funny i was telling my wife about super dave because um she like you guys just didn't get it over here i don't think well it used to be on tv for us and it was such a fucking weird show i was really young but i used to me and my friend used to watch it and and we found it funny but the humor was not like super mainstream humor back then yeah yeah it's it's a very very weird show

but it was like he was basically like uh sort of like a terrible stuntman a bumbling evil knievel sort of thing like you know like they they'd have this huge build-up to like his big stunt at the end of the show and it was always a massive failure but like the production was hilarious because you know it would be that they'd shoot him out of a cannon but like so you'd see him getting into the cannon and then it would just shoot like this fucking floppy mannequin out of the cannon with like his voice over going oh fuck it was it was pretty funny but yeah it's like a very a very 80s show for sure. So kind of the Evel Knievel era. Yeah, he was pretty big like in the 70s, wasn't he?

I mean, the Evel Knievel was like a thing. There were guys like that back then. There were celebrities because they did shit like jumping over a gorge on a motorcycle, right? Like the Simpsons. Yeah, there's Simpsons episodes about it, yeah. Super Dave was a reference to it. These were like cultural, everybody knew Evel Knievel.

Everybody knew Evel Knievel. And I think celebrities have been replaced. Everybody now knows Kim Kardashian, who is famous for what, right? There's a difference in what people think fame is now. What the fuck, BBC? You've got your Miss Brown.

Boy, where's the stunt show? Why don't we have a weekly fucking stunt show? Jeez. People would love that. What happened to stunt shows? They're gone. There's no stunt shows anymore don't we have a weekly fucking stunt show geez people would happen to stunt shows they're they're gone there's no everybody knows ninja warrior right you know ninja warrior let's have a fucking stunt show every week there's a there's a big stunt they have all this setup they tell us what's gonna happen the dude does a stunt sometimes he gets fucked up remember gladiators that was fucking great too holy shit they tried to bring it back a couple of times i don't know whether these things were ever great or whether we just thought they were great yeah when i was 10 everything was

great so that's why i look back i think there was nothing else on though as well like i think i think we are spoiled these days by so much choice right like like it wasn't there wasn't that much choice before and we were able to play on back then though you you'd be surprised like yeah the cannonball show uh little large show go look back like in the early 90s late late 80s and look at primetime tv there was some fucking belters on like like you know regularly there was also a lot of shit yeah there was i mean the a team was primetime television mr belvedere remember mr belvedere no i don't god damn but i No, I don't remember Mr. Belvedere. God damn it. I guess what I'm saying is nowadays we have hundreds of more shows.

We have multiple streaming platforms competing with regular TV. It's old shit. But there's a lot of great shows out there, though. It's house do-up shows or it's UK Gold or Dave. They just show the same old shit. People still watch i mean i boot up netflix right and i have what was it called where you have you have too much choice right and you can't pick oh that's that that is just the netflix thing though isn't it

i remember like occasionally on a saturday or something you know if i didn't feel like doing anything else you know my wife would take the kids somewhere or with her mom or something and they'd be like oh you know we'll be back in a couple hours so you know just find something to do okay great yeah i'll find something to do if i can pick up my ipad look on netflix and i literally spent the whole time they were gone browsing netflix like i couldn't find a single thing that i could commit to watch there's a lot of shit on there so you're just constantly looking through, looking through. I mean, I wish Netflix was better, organized and kind of clearer.

And I can see why they've added the sort of the trailers thing, the autoplay to kind of get you into a series. Because although I hate that, I also understand that that maybe helps to overcome that overchoice scenario. And apparently the way you're supposed to overcome it is like, it's like if you're, if you're taking your girlfriend out or whatever, and you're like,

Oh, where shall we go? That's kind of like too vague a question and also too much choice. So you need to bring it down to like two or three choices. You should be like, I love the way you've, you've read something about how to make choices. Oh,

I know. Yeah. That's such a Lewis thing to do. I can't make a choice. There must be a article about how do I choices oh i know yeah that's such a lewis thing to do i can't make a choice there must be a article about how do i control my woman better let me just read that hang on let me just consult these seven wikipedia articles i have you know what the real secret to netflix is that there are hidden codes for genres and it'll sometimes have movies that aren't listed on the main page right if you can

you can google this and you can look at you type in the address it'll take you to a page for genres that it doesn't just list automatically so these are like the hidden genres and there's actually a lot of movies there you're like jesus i had no idea this was there a lot of them are shit but there are a lot of old movies that they just don't put up front because it's always trying to recommend right it's always saying oh you liked uh die hard well maybe you'll like this claude jean-claude van damme movie i'm like no i find i find on hidden genres netflix and prime now um that they have like an ass end for me anyway there's an ass end to netflix and prime now where oh yeah when you scroll too far over you start hitting like all the like the Bollywood movies and stuff.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And I'm sure, don't get me wrong, I know people fucking love those. But for me, that is just like, well, okay. I don't know why this is even appearing in my Netflix. I will not watch these probably. Unless somebody recommends one that's really good or something. I've been playing a lot of these VR games on Steam

and girlfriend simulators and stuff. Just making sure, just practicing. Just getting a lot of these VR games on Steam, you know, and Girlfriend simulators and stuff, you know, just making sure, just practicing, just getting a bit of practice here. Right, yeah, of course, yeah. End up with, hopefully, one day, fingers crossed, the real thing. Yeah. But having the Steam reviews is legitimately a really good way of actually telling me whether a game is bad or not, right?

Because usually I look at something, if it's very positive or overwhelming positive i'm like i'm probably just gonna buy it straight away and then i scroll down and if there's a guy with like 2,000 hours in the game and he's like it's like a funny comment like you know yeah this game maybe you know i played this game on the toilet and i love people who have like 2,000 hours of the game played and they're so fucking like they're like they're really angry done with their life for the no no they hate the game as well they give it a negative yeah yeah and it's like i tried really hard guys i wasted all my time i played this game i tried to like it um oh god yeah they really i mean at least it's a it's a good review if they

actually played the game well the guys that have 0.1 hours on record and go, rubbish. I don't reckon you can give a game a negative review if you've played more than 1,000 hours in it. No, I mean, obviously you've got 1,000 hours of entertainment out of it. But that is more often than you think, because people are so invested in a game, they love a game so much. Like we with WoW, we're incredibly critical of it,

and as a result, a patch change comes along, and they're like, oh that's the last straw you nerfed mage! I'm going to complain! Fucking developers not thinking about us mages! My staff of the unholy dick has been nerfed one

final time and now I can no longer gank noobs in the conflicted zone! It's like, oh my God. People lose their shit. So if Netflix had some sort of Steam style,

even if it was just a link to fucking IMDB or something that told me, because the Netflix star rating system means that I look at a movie and I'm like,

oh, is this going to be terrible or not? And then I have to get my phone out, I have to look it up and it's like, four out of ten stars and I'm like,

oh, fuck me. Everything seems to be at least three stars. the star rating is to do with whether it should be appropriate for you based on your viewing history rather than any kind of measurement of whether the movie's good or not and as a result fucking cares it's terrible watched such a lot of wank on netflix like that's i just thought fuck me that was a complete waste of my life whereas i'm sure there's like something really good on there that i've never heard of because it's not got a good rate i watched something called uh it's called the rain it's like a danish thing have you heard of that

the rain the rain it's like i think it's on amazon actually it might be on amazon i can't remember anyway it's it's in danish it's set in denmark i recommend turning off the voiceover because it's terrible so just just go with the subtitled version. It's okay. It's like an apocalyptic thing where these guys try to, there's this terrible rain that gives people this terrible virus. And it's one of the guys who's sort of in the project that developed or is trying to combat this.

The very beginning of the film, he's in the car with his family and it starts to rain. He's like, we've got to get out of here. So they go down this bunker, and he starts from there. And it's deece. It's not great. I skipped quite a bit of it, because when I get to a point where I know what's going to happen, I just skip forward to a scene that looks interesting.

It's like a long conversation in the woods. I'm like, I already know these two characters. I know exactly where they're going. Skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. So I watched it in like a day and a half. I just skipped a bunch of it. It's okay. I give it, skip, skip, skip. So I watched it in like a day and a half. I just skipped a bunch of it. It's okay. I give it like a 5 out of 10.

If you love post-apocalyptic stuff, it's got a few cool things in it. 5 out of 10? Are you fucking shitting me? Is this your film recommendation for people? I'm saying it's okay. That's why it gets a 5 out of 10.

It's not really worth watching. If you want to watch it, go ahead. If you like post-apocalyptic stuff, it's okay. It's 5 out of 10 yeah let's just go through everything on Netflix

that we didn't was average I mean that's the most recent thing I've fucking watched we were talking about Netflix

I gave you a recommendation it's not really a recommendation I don't know whether to watch it or not now all you've told me

is it's average why don't they put that on the fucking film poster you might like it you might not who's gonna go what's your rating system?

Give me an example of a film. What about Talladega Nights? How much do you give that, Sips? Like 5 out of 10, I guess. 5 out of 10? It was okay. Yeah, I wouldn't watch a 5 out of 10 movie. I've got better things to do with my life.

No, you haven't. You just said you watch a lot of shit on Netflix. Yeah, I do watch a lot of shit on Netflix. Yeah, your argument falls apart. And I play a lot of shitty games on Steam as well. Case closed. Where's my gavel? Hey, Flax.

Have you seen or do you know anything about The Quiet Place, the movie? No. Okay, listen. Don't read up on this movie at all and just go see it, okay? Where is it? Thank me later. Okay. Is that the cinema?

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Just go and see it. Just find a time to go and see it and go see it okay I'll do it it was directed from don't

but nothing nothing he's gotta go in blind I don't wanna hear it work we want a trip report next week when we do the Triforce on what you thought of the movie

okay will do sweet alright well I think that's all the time we have for today we have to go devise ways to get another 1.5 downloads in the next couple of four months. We can do it, lads.

So we're going to put our heads together and we're going to figure it out. And in the meantime – Come up with a jingle. Yeah, we'll come up with a jingle. Flax is going to go watch that movie. Lewis is just going to go play some more VR girlfriend games. And I've been your host, Chris Loves Ass. I'll see you guys next time.

Peace and love. Goodbye. Bye. Bye.