Triforce! - Triforce! #81: Best Week Ever

Episode Date: October 31, 2018

Triforce! Episode 81! Sips has been watching TV, Pyrion is having the week of his life and Lewis is keeping your brain healthy! This episode is sponsored by Jug-U-Like, Jug your friends using the special code: JUGBURNS today! Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Please play responsibly. Jesus, someone say it. Someone do it. I can't do the intro. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Triforce podcast. That's right. We're back. Proudly sponsored by the Brennan B2. I've got the Brennan B2 on my desk. It's so small. What's a Brennan B2? It fits under the monitor. 5,000 albums lost lists at the touch of a button. Kapow. The world is a better place.

Isn't that just Spotify? No, it's just like an ad that I see on Reddit all the time for some reason. So we're not sponsored on this podcast. We don't have a sponsor. We very proudly like not having sponsors. We were thinking about something, though. I wanted to get a jug. I think that's a good idea.

A Triforce-themed jug. A jug, yeah. Yeah. So you could jug your friends. What kind of jug would you guys prefer, though? Like a plastic jug? I think a plastic jug. Some sort of ceramic jug, maybe?

A plastic jug is less likely to break. An ancient Incan ceramic jug with fine embroidery and detail on the side. The thing with a plastic jug is it's yet more plastic in this world. Why not a natural thing? A glass jug. It's beautiful. Maybe this is a dumb question, but do they do plastic versions of decorated

ceramic jugs? Can you get a plastic version of that? You can get plastic anything. You can get plastic plastic. That's how much plastic there is in this world. It's ubiquitous. We're can get plastic anything. That's true. You can get plastic plastic. That's how much plastic there is in this world. It's ubiquitous. That's true, yeah. It's ubiquitous.

A lot of plastic. We're in the plastic age. Holy crap, guys. I've been watching so much TV recently. I don't know about you guys. I've been watching Making a Murderer Season 2. Yeah, I've been watching that too. That's great.

And that poor lady, Catherine, what's her name, has got terrible plastic surgery. Kathleen, well, she's a bit older, I think. She's had a few few tucks i knew i knew that there was gonna be some chat about making a murderer and i knew that the first thing we're gonna talk about is a woman's appearance yet again oh well that's you can blame lewis for that we're in the plastic age i'm sorry i wouldn't have brought it up let's just go oh she looks a bit weird. I never even noticed. I was too interested in the story.

Yes, exactly. It's an interesting tale of injustice in America. She does look terrifying. I think it's interesting because the whole time I'm watching it, I'm thinking, but did they do it? Well, you know what I mean? Like, that's the interesting thing to me is that, I mean, at the very start of episode one, I'll confess, I loved series one. I'm only on the first episode of season two. So I don't want to say too much.

But it opens with people protesting, saying, let him go, let him go. And in typical American style, there's an old dude with a cap and looks, you know, like the Lumberjack show, going, you can't just trust Netflix. Like that, like he's furious with them for trying to say, hey, I saw a TV show and now I'm going to stand outside and protest. It's like, well, at the same time, this did go through the court. And if you're going to say, hey, everyone gets their day in court and then they find the guy guilty and it's like, well, this is bullshit. You basically don't trust the entire system.

And yes, I'm absolutely 100% sure there were massive problems with this case i'm and when you look at the why the the motivation was there for the police to fuck him over because they were gonna have to pay out all this money and all that i i absolutely get it but unless we're gonna just say well i i prefer the tv show and set the guy free as well then why bother with the legal system like i think it's very hard to just say he's innocent because i saw a netflix tv show that's stupid don't get sucked into getting your life well i think it's i think it's interesting how the the the media hype around it is portrayed in the first season um they made a lot of pretty big mistakes with you know revealing information about the case before there was a verdict even and it was swaying public opinion but now it's it's kind of gone the other way with the documentary has helped to sway

public opinion as well so you have these people protesting that he's innocent and that he should be let out and everything and all of this goes in and and and and creates perception around around the case and everybody then becomes a judge and a jury right like everybody feels like they have a say in it and stuff and i think it's clever that both sides are are shown in a in a roundabout way of like the the hype and like sort of like the counter hype i guess if you want to call it that i mean look at those guys the lawyers for the prosecution and the da and everybody getting yeah yeah getting all that shit from the people saying, kill yourself. And it's obviously what I like is they're spread over years.

So it's obviously people who've just watched the show. It's not like one of those things that happens and there's a lot of hate mail because it's just happened and it's in the news and everything. Now it's like someone's just watched the show. I'm going to fucking email this asshole and tell him what he thinks. Yo, go fuck yourself, asshole. That's what's bizarre about it because

for the longest time these these these people that were involved probably heard nothing because it was just a you know it's a backwater county yeah nobody cares and some white trash was incarcerated and and everybody's happy sort of thing and but now that there's there's been so much analysis into it and you know everybody is weighing in with like their professional opinion and there's the you know they're filing filing appeals and everything to to get them out and stuff now all of a sudden of course everybody's fucking interested right but that's that's when i think in a way like if you think about what the justice system should be it like they you know justice is blind and everything he should have

been given a trial. He had his trial and that's the end of it, right? I absolutely agree. They should have just chucked him. Chucked him straight at the end. I mean, think how many juggings that lad's had.

He's had two spells, two extended spells in prison. That's a lot of jugging. By the way, you will soon be able to purchase the Triforce jug for all your jugging needs. Yeah, we'll send him one

free of charge. We can use, because he's so popular. Send him a jug? Babes are like sending him mail and everything. We'll send him a jug. They said to get pictures of their jugs. Hopefully in season three of Making a Murderer, there'll be a picture of him with his family

holding the jug smiling as well. Yeah, I got this jug in the mail. A fellow was sat in my seat in front of the TV. Jugged him. Jugged him good. With the Triforce podcast jug. Guilty as charged on that one. It is interesting. But the documentary is very good at highlighting how terrible like the justice system can be and how unfair it can be and how incompetent people can be as well uh and maybe at the time they don't feel like they're being incompetent or whatever but do you ever feel like you're being incompetent like i like the idea of people in their day-to-day life i think man i'm fucking this up but i do this i do this every day when i play dota 2 i feel massively incompetent uh and that's that's that's

a unique feeling but no generally in my day-to-day life, I don't feel like overly incompetent. I'm sure I make mistakes. I feel like everyone is some level of incompetent, right? Like that's the thing about the show. Like even these guys who are really good are some level of incompetent. And even like the best people, I mean, at the lowest end,

they're absolutely incompetent. At the middle, they're somewhat incompetent. At the top, they're pretty incompetent. And the middle, they're somewhat incompetent. At the top, they're pretty incompetent. And then you get, even at the presidential level, it feels like there's a great deal of incompetency going on. Controversial from Lewis Brindley. We're humans, and I think at the end of the day... We fuck shit up all of the day we fuck shit up all the time we fuck shit up all the time it's just what people do i mean yeah we're not we're not great it's this illusion

that's created about people in power that they are um really fucking intelligent and ahead of the game and stuff yeah but like you know these a lot of these positions come with uh entire administration or a cabinet filled with uh smart people advising and exactly this is this is me coming off the back of watching that vietnam war documentary where you know it was just a series of incredibly like misinformed bad awkward accidental decisions happened because president kennedy was on holiday and they rang him up and they were like oh you want to want to do this quick? And he was like, all right. And then, you know, someone set a cable and he thought these guys had approved it

and they hadn't. And, you know, it was like just a series of things that you don't think they have these bigger reaching decisions. You don't think people are that shitty when they're that important, right? But they have lives too. And they're humans too.

They can't juggle everything in their heads. I think like people, you know, you meet these people who are sort of experts on one thing and they're humans too they can't juggle everything in their heads i think like people you know you meet these people who are sort of experts on one thing and they're experts on such a tiny thing it's like you know my i've devoted my entire life to blood spatter analysis and yet i still make mistakes and it's like that's that's great thing for him to say you know but it just shows that not everyone is even like these judges who have to take try and take everything a little bit of everything be a little bit of an expert in everything um they're not gonna have perfect you know knowledge in every situation they have to rely on other people you know when they say

we're reopening the case it'll be about three years before we have a review and you think three years yeah that's a lot of people doing a lot of stuff for a long time that whole time people are reading shit they're having meetings stuff's going back and forth i'm sure like i just imagine the judge thinking i've got a spare hour i'll do some more reading on the avery case and just kicks back and reads and he's just reading this fucking transcript making notes checking things in his book it's like everything like takes so long i mean on top of all the other time as well yeah it's crazy man and i mean this on top of all the other shit he's got to do, right? And they're going to make mistakes over that time as well.

Yeah, it's crazy, man. And I mean, this guy, I was watching an episode of Covered Website, and this appeals judge wrote this 91-page long thing, and I was like, that is mental to me. I've never written anything, even for my chemistry master's, the only thing I wrote over six months was about 30 pages. Well, 30 pages in six months. The thing is, there's, you know, the system is designed in a way,

and, you know, it takes time, and this, that, and the other. But the thing is, if they are innocent, and we don't know if they are or not, realistically, you know, they could well be guilty, or there might be some guilt there, who knows? Like, I personally think they're innocent, but that's just my personal opinion. Yeah, I did when I watched the show. I always say that. Let's say that they are innocent. Every fucking day that they're in there and they're innocent is time they'll never get back.

These are human beings who will never get this time back. You know, like their whole life has been spent, like the best years of their lives have been spent in jail. And if it turns out that they are innocent, how do you pay that back? How do you make up for that? You know what I mean? Like that's – it's tough. It's crazy. Like, you know, life is ultimately quite short.

And if you spend your whole life in fucking jail for something you didn't even do – Well, exactly. It's crazy right like how do you pay somebody back like like these appeals can go on so long that you know people just end up dying they're involved in these cases like you said they're gonna review the case gonna take three years well fuck he's gonna be in jail for three more years that's crazy how many juggings can you could you stand this is it one man can only handle so many juggings right your skin is does my skin not peel and burn when yeah that's it you're getting older your skin ain't what it used to be

it might not be so resistant with those hot women those weird hot american women who want a prisoner who want to be in the limelight who want to be you know that criminal that famous criminal's coming in that shit giving him giving him their jugs to feel yeah it's weird it is weird like why invite that into your life you know you because they're crazy man that's it but but why why invite that much fucking drama and baggage into your life like there you are living a normal life everything's like you know fine there's no no big hiccups or anything and then you you fucking start being be a pen pal with a with a convict that's in jail that's crazy i refer the gentleman to the answer i gave some moments ago they're crazy we should um we should start

writing to these people we should write to a prisoner try and get them to sponsor the jug we find a murderer and we write to him and we say dear mr murderer we would love you to sponsor our triforce jug and perhaps if you wanted to jug someone you could take some pictures and show us how uh jugging works irl oh my god too fun the instagram was filled with him like jugging people jug this cunt today. Top ten juggings. Hashtag Tuesday jugging. Jug this lad. Looked at me funny. You know what I think

is funny is when someone's guilty everyone knows they're guilty. The person isn't saying that they're innocent and they're still just walking around. I don't know if you guys remember a few years ago there was, because sometimes what they've done is maybe, sometimes what they've done is maybe sometimes what they've done is illegal sometimes what they've done is just borderline fucking immoral like a few years ago there was a there was an ad campaign where it was called j'aime le france which means i love france right for anyone out there that's

stupid yeah yeah and it's like a bunch of people saying j'aime le france and doing french things like drinking wine and um i don't know eating cheese and bread or you know looking at a nice street french things the rest of us have never thought to do and it ends with woody allen saying j'aime le france you know and sort of i'm thinking of course you j'aime le france mate because they don't judge you for fucking knobbing your daughter you know what i mean roman polanski when he was found guilty of having sex with an underage girl where do you think he fucked off to le france right he fucked off to france is that like a safe haven for that sort of guys like that yeah no wonder he gems le france as well i'd bet he's like where should i take refuge france they have no extradition and people will say, oh, well, of course he had sex with a 13 year old. If she was beautiful, he says, guys, let's play cricket.

You know, I mean, of course they fucking gem the France. Everyone knows Roman Polanski did it. He's never tried to say he hasn't. Everyone knows Woody Allen did it because he's married to his daughter. Right. His foremost. All right. She was my adopted daughter.

All right. That's still fucking creepy, mate. She was adopted. I mean, it's still fucking creepy, mate. Where are you going to hide? France? She was adopted? Yeah. I mean, it's still kind of weird. Yeah.

But I mean. Kind of weird? Technically. You bring a child. As a child, they bring her into their home, raise her as a daughter. She's old enough. He thinks, actually, do you know what? I'm going to knob that.

And did. I'm fucking this. That's fucking nice. And he's just still making movies. And everyone's like, let's talk about the new Woody Allen movie. And I'm thinking, you know, I really liked Woody Allen's fucking nice. And he's just still making movies and everyone's like, let's talk about the new Woody Allen movie. And I'm thinking, you know, I really liked Woody Allen's early stuff. But when he did that,

I can't stop thinking about the fact that I'm watching a movie made by a man who raised a woman as his daughter and then married her. It's kind of fucked up. Yeah, it's pretty fucked up. But dude, France, this is the kind of thing we do on ourselves.

It's a WD. I feel like we should be careful here. J'aime la France. France is nice. It's fine. I don't think we want to. It's great. I love France.

I'm just saying. It needs a good jugging. It's great. Fantastic country. You love the people, love the culture, really good food and everything. By the way, guys, I married my daughter the other day. Can I stay? Come on over.

Oh, my god. Oh, wait a second. Apparently, Sunyi Previn has stated that Alan was never any kind of father figure and added that she never had any dealings with him during her childhood. Oh, right. Huh. Well, that's less weird then. Oh, okay.

Well, I take it back. Apologies, Woody. Yeah, sorry, Woody. All right. Anyway, the podcast today is proudly sponsored by woody allen uh check out his uh latest uh movie in the uh on the big screen on the silver screen it's called uh fuck i don't even i don't even think i've ever seen a woody allen movie you've never seen a woody allen movie i don't think i have no i mean maybe i've maybe i've accidentally seen one

yeah no i've never never seen oh dude he was one of my favorite directors you've accidentally seen one. Yeah, no, I've never seen one. Oh, dude, he was one of my favorite directors. You've never seen Annie Hall? But he's in movies too, right? Well, he's in his own movies. I've never seen him in someone else's movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is he just sort of like a bumbling New Yorker who's always in love with somebody,

but he's really awkward and it never works out, but then it does work out sort of thing? Is that the whole... Well, let me, let me tell you something. Like an eighties Larry Davis. So he was a standup comedian in the, in the sixties and the seventies.

And he was genuinely hilarious. Like he's, he's a brilliant, funny man. He then sort of got into very serious art house filmmaking. But before that he made films like sleeper, which is one of my all time favorite movies. It's so stupid.

It's about a guy who lives in seventiess New York and runs a fucking health food store, and gets frozen somehow, and they wake him up in the year 2100 or something like that, and everything's changed. So, everything's fucked up. For instance, they're all smoking and eating weird food, and they're like, oh, we found out that smoking's really good for you, and cream buns and sugar and fat are the best things for your body, so we just eat those all the time. He was like, I used to run a health food store. They're like, oh, God, that stuff's poison. In the future, they discovered that all the stuff he thought was healthy was really bad for you and everything. They grow gigantic vegetables. It's just nuts. It's absolutely nuts. The whole world is run by this guy called...

God, what's his name? Like the master or something. And he's just a guy in a wheelchair. And it's all this sort of very totalitarian government and everything. It's brilliant. Sleeper is absolutely brilliant. I love that movie. Annie Hall is an absolute fucking classic.

If you've never seen Annie Hall, good God. I don't know what to say to you. That's an absolute fucking classic, mate. Manhattan? Oh, these are great movies. Genuinely great movies. Radio Days is all about, like, it's a funny story about his life and everything like that. And he's a brilliant, brilliant director.

He's done a lot of very, very good movies, and I recommend them. But maybe I was wrong about him in the TV. I'm just saying, it was weird, man. Yeah, but maybe it's not so weird now. She never had any dealings with him. So it's like a stranger. She's married a perfect stranger. I'm sure there was more to it.

No blood relation to him or whatever. So now you can get back to liking his movies and not thinking he's too creepy or weird. It is a little creepy still. It is a little creepy. It is kind of. I apologize, Mr. Allen. And if your lawyers get in touch with me, I will fully retract my statement. Yeah, we'll give you a free decorative jug, Mr. Allen, to make up for it.

Jem'l Allen, assuming that I'm wrong. Jem'l Allen. So, oh, my God. So did we talk about weed getting legalized in Canada last week? No, we haven't talked about that. But hang on a second because there's more TV shows to talk about. Oh, my God. So did we talk about weed getting legalized in Canada? No, we haven't talked about that. But hang on a second, because there's more TV shows to talk about. Oh, shit. Because Making a Murderer is back, yes.

Hip Hop Evolution Series 2 is out, and it's awesome as well. If you haven't seen that on Netflix, I definitely recommend it. And also, Man, The Apprentice. Holy fuck, I can't stop watching that show. It's the worst. Not more of this shit. Oh, it's the worst. Actually, you know what it last night it wasn't too bad but you know what else is back prepare yourselves inside the factory is back that's right baby they showed us how to make

potato chips yesterday and it was nuts fuck it was nuts you should have seen it okay i feel like listen we're like the modern day radio times aren aren't we? Listen to this, okay? There's too much to watch, Sips. I'm not a couch potato. An 18-wheeler turns up to a factory, okay? This is the biggest potato chip factory in all of Europe, possibly the world. I feel like we need like plinky-plonky music running under this. An 18-wheeler chip turns up to the factory.

This factory churns out 2.5 million packs of potato crisps or potato chips every day. 2.5 million, okay? Out of the back of this factory, 2.5 million potato chips are exported. On average. For a market of 17 million people. One grab bag or packet of potato chips has one potato in it, okay? So 200,000 potatoes turn up to the factory, you're going to get 200,000 bags of chips. Each potato is converted into a delicious bag of potato chips as it makes its way through the factory. So listen, one thing

I learned is that apparently potato, I thought potatoes were hardy, but they bruise easily. So when the truck turns up, yeah. The potatoes bruise easily, so they release them onto a sheet of cushions. No, that's not what they do at all, Lewis. I'm about to tell you what they really do. An entire gang of humans individually handholds each and caresses the potatoes before they go into the factory. Like a little baby, and then lays it gently on a pillow to go through the... No, so the truck turns up with 200,000 potatoes roughly on it, okay?

And they get a couple of these a day. Why are they so rough? Right? Surely they're quite smooth. This truck turns up, all the potatoes are just chilling in the back in this big compartment, and it docks with the loading bay of the factory,

and they immediately put this gigantic fire hose in the back of the truck and flood the entire truck. And then the potatoes leave the truck on a big river, okay? And then that eases them onto this conveyor system, which starts the process, okay? So, from when the truck stops

and the fire hose first is, you know, turned on and the water starts going, it takes 35 minutes for 200,000 potatoes to turn into 200,000 bags of potato chips starts going, it takes 35 minutes for 200,000 potatoes to turn into 200,000 bags of potato chips. Holy shit. 35 fucking minutes.

That's crazy, isn't it? That's crazy. That is nuts. That's crazy. You should see the process. It's insane. They fucking peel the potatoes. They cut them.

They check to see how big the potatoes are. There's all these little machines that spin them around and jump them around and stuff. And like the big potatoes get sliced in half and the small potatoes stay as they are and then they slice them all up and then they fucking tumble them in this gigantic drum and then they with all the seasoning powder so that like you know when you have like cheese and onion crisps or whatever right uh you know that's how they do it it's this massive drum that the potato chips just like sort of tumble around in and they get seasoned to perfection and then it all comes out and they bag them up and then bam they're in the store like the same day for you to buy so like

they're all nice and fresh and shit see this is one of those things that i always thought was gonna make you not want to eat them but actually is the opposite right is it reassuring I think we talked about this before but it's reassuring that they're not made like in a much grosser way

do you know what I mean it's fucking incredible how they're made they don't just dump them out of the back of the thing and they're a load

of a work so the potatoes arrive at the factory and Dave gets them all out with a spade and then treads on them. Get Peely Peed over here. We're behind on our peeling.

Dave and Mike just squash them down with their feet. The potatoes don't even need peeling. Once they have a big potato mush, they stick it in the potato smasher machine. It all gets squeezed down, and potato ooze gets squeezed out of the bottom. After four days in this rusty shit machine, the potato ooze is free-formed with a load of chemicals into

slices, which are then added to the dirty grill. The dirty grill slowly grills. Covered in germs. It's a really germy grill. And then once the dirty grill's emptied out all these broken old shitty potato chips, Steve watches them go by on a production line, taking out the broken ones.

Once they do that, they get shoved into bags and filled with fake stink gas that makes it smell nice when you open it. Barry farts in each bag before they get the potato chips go in, just to lock the freshness in like it's but that's my cynical mind assumes that all these factories are just like horrific right and everything is made like so many standards and stuff they stand to lose so much fucking money off of lawsuits and getting sued for not meeting standards and it's like perfectly sterile and fucking super high tech and is it like a

fucking chip like like uh not chip like um like a computer chip factory oh it's crazy it's like it's fucking i can't believe it blows my mind every time they showed you how they make monster munch as well which is like not potato chips it's like uh it's like a Monster Munch has to be made of 99% monster. Well, it's just water in this fucking – 10% munch. They crush corn into like a powder, mix it with water, and it makes this like – it's like Play-Doh. And then they – when they first cook it, it's like under like a tremendously high amount of pressure. It's like this massive pressure cooker that this paste goes into. Right.

Which makes it even more Play-Doh-like. And then they just shove it like at high pressure through a mold. And it comes out as like one gigantic gross tube. It's exactly like when you were a kid and you played Play-Doh and you had the fucking clown head. And, you know, you press down the lever and the Play-Doh comes out his hair out of the top of his head or whatever. It's the exact same sort of thing. And then it just gets cut into little individual monster munches and then again just tumbles around gets seasoned and stuff oh it's fucking the soft potato mush is extruded through the extruder machine onto the conveyor belt yeah i love i love all that stuff

where they describe it in such technical words and everything behind it is incredible like it just when you see something like that in contrast with you know the the fucking portrayal of the legal system in making murder and you think how are we able to make all this fucking high-tech clever stuff but we're not able to you know do an investigation of a murder properly like it's it's crazy i'll tell you what there's money in crisps yes there is there's you better you better be making the best crunchiest monster munch you can or someone's gonna buy your competitor right but if you're the if you're the guy that's doing the trial you're the guy that's doing the trial that's it they're not gonna say part way through the jury's not gonna say we're bored uh let's get someone else in you know what i mean mean? So once you're doing it, you're just doing it, I guess.

I mean, it's not to say they're not going to do the best job they can, but it's a fairly small team of people as opposed to a guy at the top of the crisp factory going, gentlemen, our crisps are coming out backwards. They're all salty and bruised. They're not bent enough. They're no good. They're all wavy.

I opened a bag of crisps the other day and they exploded in my face. And I thought, what the hell is going on down there? I went down to the factory floor and you know what I saw? enough they're no good they're all wavy crispy other and they exploded in my face and i thought what the hell is going on down there i went down to the factory floor and you know what i saw i saw ken over here sitting on his ass yeah you ken you're supposed to be checking the potatoes i'm sorry mr mccluskey you need a guy like that oh mr mcclus McCluskey. Yeah, so fucking Inside the Factory. Oh, man. I got so much time for that show.

Like, fuck, I was rushing through all my dad chores. Like, my kids were like, I love you, Dad. I was like, go to bed. And they had to run downstairs to catch the show and stuff. Like, oh, fuck. Man, I, like, never watch TV. I'm just trying to think. Oh, dude, you're missing out.

Like, I'll do it after I've finished streaming or playing anything that I want to play. Then I'll be like, yeah, all right. And I'll watch a little bit on Netflix. But I watch the NFL show on the BBC, which is a great show, if you like the NFL. And I watch Match of the Day and maybe a couple of other things. I'll watch some shows on the weekend or when my kids are home. I'll watch some TV with them occasionally. We watch The Simpsons, old episodes of The Simpsons.

My kids still watch like fucking – the big one now is Strawberry Shortcake on Netflix. Kill me. It's on all the fucking time. Oh, my God. Oh, it's so bad. Jeez. Jesus. Well, I mean I love watching TV and I ended up watching a lot of TV yesterday because I made the mistake of thinking

do you know what? I'm going to play on an Xbox that's right, I'm going to get the old Xbox home. Did you get Fallout 76, the beta? So yeah, I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it but yeah, I mean you are people are talking about it on Reddit

and everything. What did you think? The other thing that sort of came along was Red Dead Redemption, which is coming out tomorrow, actually, but came out last week. It's coming out tomorrow. You know, I've got it pre-ordered. I heard something hit my mat downstairs, like in front of the front door. Can I just go and check if it's arrived? I'll be one second.

I'll be one second. It won't be it. There's no way, right? You can't get it a day early. I make the mistake of plugging in an Xbox and it's like, Hey, you need to make an account to use this. Hey, you're not paying $29.99 a month to play online. Did you know that?

You're going to have to sign up for a super premium package to play this one game and nothing else ever again. I'd say it was like it was like a fucking probably like 10 to 15 minutes of setting up a fucking microsoft xbox account whatever and then about then i've i've had it on wi-fi and the wi-fi for some reason was really fucking slow so it took like two hours to fucking patch the fucking xbox when i plugged it in i was like christ and then um I had to go through and get an Xbox live account

so I had to put all that in that took another like 20 minutes and then I had to install the fucking game which was 50 gig so that took

fucking like another 5 hours it takes forever doesn't it and then once that installed I was like reloaded it

and I was having like I had every error code possible and finally like managed to get to like a login screen it was like it gave me some weird fucking error it gave me like the weirdest error in the world and i was like yeah i'm tough i'm fucking done but i did manage to get a lot of tv watched while i was just waiting for all this shit to fucking happen watched all of making a murder season two thank god i had fucking uh you know an ipad so i could just like watch crap while i was plugging in all of Making a Murderer Season 2. Thank God I had fucking an iPad so I could just

watch crap while I was plugging in all of these fucking... Ben, you know... Typing in stuff with a controller. I had like a CD key that was like fucking... I've got a nice console tale for you because yours was such a depressing and bad one. Listen to this.

We go to... I took my son to a birthday party and my wife had this like thing in town. I think she was getting like her toenails done or something. Yeah, some shit. Anyway, so we had some time between the end of the party and then meeting up with her because she was done like half an hour after us or whatever.

Right. So we went into this store that sells games and, you know, DVDs and Blu-rays, whatever. We're looking around and then we noticed fucking Mario Party for the Switch. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just come out. Yeah, yeah. Fuck.

Let's get it. Like, this game is amazing. I used to play Mario Party on the Nintendo 64. My son was like, yeah, fucking Mario Party. Like, this is going to be great. So we get it. And I was like, we're in the car on the way home and he's super excited you know like when you know when you're a kid and you get a game and you have the box he's fucking looking at all the pictures on the back he's got the instruction book open and stuff and he's you know he's super

fucking excited so that was great too and uh we're on the way home and i was like oh shit we only have like one controller for the switch right we only have like like we have the switch and then the the the fucking things that slide onto the side of it but we don't have like any other controllers so it's like gosh shit you know like i should have got another controller right we're not going to be able to play or whatever so we get home and he's like super excited puts it into the switch and everything and we we turn it on and he's like super excited puts it into the switch and everything and we turn it on and he's like can we play two players i was like well no we don't we only have one controller but you know we can't play two players and he's like no look this like look on

look on this and on the screen it was showing you that you could use each side of the switch like the little joy cons as like mini controllers. Yeah, yeah. That's right. That shit blew my fucking mind. I was just like, what? I didn't need another controller. Holy crap. So we fucking played Mario Party. I'm not even joking. For like 10 hours solid, it was nuts.

Holy shit. And it's good too because he's learning math and stuff at school. And he's like he's pretty good at it. But with like with a board game and especially you know because like there's dice rolling and stuff yeah he was getting like really quick at like adding up you know the dice rolls of his and then his like ally can roll a dice and everything as well and it was like that was my justification to my wife for playing 10 hours of Mario Party he's like he's learning math we got learning math. We got a new game.

We got a new fun game. Look, here's daddy's accounts. We're going to go through today and we're going to add up all the numbers. Yeah. Oh, man, it was really good. Fuck. Nintendo, I know like people like slam them sometimes and stuff, but man, they make fucking great games when you were like a seven-year-old kid right like they still somehow still has that magic like the like your mario party of all things

it was just like my my fucking my son was just loving it like absolutely loving it was great it was really really good i can like do you reckon out of 10 like certain jobs are still doable. Because before robots completely take over, there need to be certain jobs that humans could do remotely. Could you imagine if it was an inside-the-factory type situation where the potatoes are all going on conveyor belt and you have to pick out the mouldy ones? Could you turn that into an iOS game, secretly? If you replaced it... You know on those sci-fi movies you see where someone's had some filter put through their eyes.

OK, and they're living in like a shithole, but actually they see it as like a beautiful hotel. Right. Right. Imagine that. But you put like a camera feed from like a factory you convey about with potatoes and you make it into an iOS game with colorful things like pineapples and strawberries. And they have to like click on all the strawberries right for example right would people could you get people's productivity on games into actual doing stuff in a real life to actually be really interesting idea so what so you have like, so the game generates things. I'm going to counter that and say, my God, I almost fell asleep while you were describing that. But you could have live, like, you could have a game and it's basically what you're doing in the game is actually quality control for some factory line somewhere.

Yeah. only concerned with it in order for the game to translate what it's seeing on the conveyor belt into something that you could see as being a strawberry or a potato when you select the strawberries if the computer can recognize the strawberries for you to say that's a strawberry and select it the computer could just do it so you need to have a live camera feed on the conveyor belt so what you're actually doing is just watching a conveyor belt and tapping the screen when you see a potato and when you see a strawberry that's exactly you know what though you're looking at it the wrong way because people still need to be in places to do these jobs right and i think what's happening now like it's certainly happening at school and will probably

start happening at work in in some capacity i'd imagine is um like the systems that games use for like achievements and tracking stats and like i know it's like you said with the school right yeah yeah yeah all of that kind of stuff is going to start like like trickling into the workplace right well like you told us about your kids school where they get like achievements yeah i mean it could it could well do yeah yeah and you know that's like uh that's something that well like specifically gamers now are conditioned to seek out that kind of stuff and like enjoy those mechanics or be fucking possessed by them or whatever i don't know how you want to like put it but um yeah i could see that happening in a job right like especially in like a very like like weird menial repetitive job like

strawberry inspector or something like so if you're on a line and you're doing quality assurance for like strawberries that are coming off a off a factory line or whatever um they could like count up how many you've done and like fucking you could have like a leaderboard to say that, oh, Jimmy inspected five million strawberries. So he's unlocked an achievement and stuff like that. And I think that it just sort of filters into that thing where people, you know, want some sort of idea of the amount of work that they've done and look at it as an achievement and have some sort of i don't know award or something like when we when we were in star trek times and people don't have to have jobs because everything's done by robots people will still want to do like stuff like they'll still want jobs because otherwise people are going to get really bored just watching tv and

yeah bumming around all day playing video games. Actually, I already don't think people are going to get bored. There's too many things to keep people entertained. I did that for 12 hours yesterday. It sounds like heaven. I mean, yeah, I think there's enough to keep you busy, but I think if you made it so that people didn't have to go out and work, I think a positive thing for you to do with all of your free time would be to

grow all your own food because otherwise the world's just going to run out eventually right so like if you have all this free time all of a sudden everybody could get back to basics and create like a farm plot on their property and grow all of their food can i just say something that way i am in agreement with the the Reddit comment from last week's podcast saying I wish these two guys would stop pushing their vegetarian agenda. I can't raise beef in my backyard, Six.

Of course you can. You can have your own little abattoir back there. I don't got the acreage. You can have chickens. You can have some chickens back there. It's fine. I don't want to eat them. I've become friends with them. You can slaughter them and eat them. No, I couldn't do that.

And you don't have to grow a single vegetable if you don't want. You grow chocolate bars instead if that makes you feel better. I'll put it next to the money tree. It's like we had this. So this week we had the Yoastcast like mental health. We had the Yoastcast Summit. And as part of it, a guy from Mental Health Foundation came down to chat about us and was talking because, you know, a lot of people in our sort of jobs struggle with like loneliness it's

like a big it's like a common thing oh you know you don't i mean you're in that dad garage it's different actually as a creator who is um i've said this many times before um i don't suffer from loneliness because i have a house full of people that half of them I've made and a wife as well. So I reach my quota almost instantly from the moment I open my eyes of social interaction. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm quite happy to spend all day in isolation in here.

And in fact, being surrounded by people I love makes me want to put myself in a small room at the top of the house, close the door and be dead to the world for hours at a time. Weird, isn't it? That's exactly it. Yeah. But they're away for the week. So my family went away. Without you? Well, they said, do you want to come? And I said, no. Right. For the simple reason that they'd gone to the Czech Republic. And can you guys remember what happened the last time I went to the Czech Republic? No, I don't remember, but I would not let my family go to the Czech Republic without me. Gaming table for you, where you can stream from. Oh, the poker thing. So that was Rozhvadov. Completely different from where they are, but it kind of put me off.

And I know it's unfair. I've been seeing all the beautiful pictures my wife's been sending me. I'm sure Czech Republic is a lovely place. What are they doing? Where are they? What are they doing? My wife has a friend out there, so she's going out to see them. Is it a man friend?

Do you think for one second? I wouldn't remember. Remember, I wouldn't let a dude bring a painting that he'd made of my wife. Remember this conversation? There's no fucking way she's going on a holiday with some fucking fella. He better be the gayest dude in the world. Like Louis from dance class or whatever the fuck that guy was called. I don't want to go on vacation with them. And you're sure as hell not going on vacation with them either bitch like if she said

i'm going away for the week with uh tony i'd be like the hell you say i don't know who this tony guy is oh well not tony i mean terry yeah no terry's no good either uh i mean dan nope like no way i'm sorry i'm sorry ladies if you say that's not cool if i said to my wife i'm going away for a week just the two of us oh yeah that sounds nice where are we gonna go no no no not you and me me and this other woman that i know like fuck off like this so wait so what are you doing for the week then because like i've never been in this such i hope to you know god one day i get to experience this it's beautiful so your your wife and two kids are gone for a week what kind what's your routine like now and are there pizza

boxes like all over the fucking place here's what i did i went down to the to do the poker on monday with lulu and the gang down there which was a ton of fun i came back tuesday morning tuesday morning you get into twickenham station wait you missed the summit what i i don't do youtube i don't do youtube what am i okay like i mean you know i can catch up but i mean all i do is stream and then come down when they tell me to what do i need a summit for that you just summoned me and i arrived and also i like i don't want to say it lewis because it sounds a little mean but i would have been missing out on on this this moment of my life which has never happened before, where I have a week in the house to myself to just slob it up.

Do you know what I'm saying? Well, this is the thing, right? You've got to take time out for yourself. One of the talks we had was the Mental Health Foundation telling us how to take out time for ourselves. And I feel like if you'd wasted the time for yourself watching that, it would have been directly counteracting the mental health benefits. So in for you the benefit yeah was to not watch the talk yeah i've actually done it i've acted rather than listened which i think is a living inspiration you're

living you're a living example of right here of peak mental health there'd be a slide it'd be my face this guy just won this this part of the talk because he's done it. He's doing it. He's living this. He gained the achievement mental health guy. So I went to Waitrose straight out of the station and I thought, what am I going to want to eat?

It's going to be stuff that's easy to cook because I can't be asked to cook when it's just me. Big bag of chips. Just garlic. No curly ones. No explosions.

One garlic. I bought a fish pie. I bought mac and cheese. Oh. And I bought myself a pizza. Yeah. And I bought myself a pizza. Yeah. And I got myself a Thai curry. And I thought these are all nice, simple ready meals, slightly different.

Some other stuff like knocking about crisps and nuts and dried fruit, baklava and a hell of a lot of cider. And I thought, sweet, let's do this. And I literally get up at about 9, 30, 10 o'clock because I can't lie in anymore. Come in, start streaming, grab some lunch, keep streaming,.30, 10 o'clock, because I can't lie in anymore, come in, start streaming, grab some lunch, keep streaming, get to about 5 o'clock, have a little lie down, wake up, have some dinner, and stream until about 1 in the morning. That's literally what I did yesterday.

The whole day. You were playing Dota the whole time. No, no, we did Hearts of Iron as well. Me and Munt conquered the world. So I did something in Hearts of Iron I've never done. I brought back the Kaiser, right? So game starts. We kill Hitler.

We kill Hitler. There's a civil war. We win the civil war. So now we brought back the Kaiser, right? But we have to get him out of the Netherlands where he's been living. The Dutch say... You were playing Germany then? Yeah, yeah.

So the Dutch say, say no we will not give him back he's staying here and i was like give me back my fucking kaiser they're like no he's going to stay here so then uh i said well and fuck you and we went to war with the dutch fought the dutch it was a bloody slog did it no bother crushed them took it took about six months it was it was dragging on a bit the brits were in there as well then the french were like we're gonna do this and they declared war on me as well fine get the italians in month was playing austro-hungary he takes out romania then we're all over it take out poland then we go through we go through the netherlands the italians join the war the french leave the maginot line to go and handle the italians we plow through the maginot line which is unheard of and then we just

fucking took france like took it no problem zoom for is unheard of, and then we just fucking took France. Like, took it, no problem. Zoomed for Paris, taken. And then we bombed the shit out of the channel, and the Brits have all their ships in the channel. We kill all the British ships.

They have, like, three of them left. We quickly make a landing in the UK, take the UK. Now we're fighting the Russians. Four of the Russians, no problem. Took Moscow, boom, we're halfway up. It's crazy. It's been a really, really fun game.

But then we found out, this is the worst thing for every hearts of iron player you find out that one of the smaller nations that you didn't think you'd have to fight is a major and until you beat them the war ain't over and we found out that japan had come in on the communist side and was considered a major so we would have had to go all the way across russia and then somehow get to the japanese navy and somehow make a landing in japan and fighting in japan is aids so we were like this isn't gonna happen so we just stopped but uh but it was good and there's a new heart to vine patch coming out soon and a new stellaris patch coming out soon oh god man they sound good i haven't played a paradox game in a while actually so honestly stellaris is in a great place right now

i love it it's so much fun so there's going to be there's a new Paradox game called Imperator Rome yeah I'm going to Bath actually

when? for an event I think it's towards the end of November me and Ben are going to go down to play a couple of days oh I really want to know

what that's like so it's a really cool idea to do it in Bath because it's a very very Roman influence yeah place yeah do you know what's funny

when I was streaming yesterday I was playing the hearts of iron game and i i've been reading about i'm reading a book called sapiens at the moment which i'm sure i can miss you talked about last week yeah i can misquote in subsequent episodes but i love the ancient world it's very interesting place and i said man hearts of iron should do a game set in that era and somebody in chat said they're doing one it's called imperator and we were like well that was quick i'm glad they're listening yeah because yeah it's literally going to be like i want hearts of iron kind of gameplay but setting uh you know the ancient times and uh and it's fucking coming i can't wait it looks pretty sick i think a paradox game set in like the cold war

era could be kind of cool too because you wouldn't have like potentially you wouldn't have like like like so many ground battles right it'd be like a lot of like managing like air forces and like maybe like little sort of like contra units and stuff like that you know like with all like the diplomacy and the scheming and shit that you can do like i think that'd be kind of cool too actually well i think like the espionage stuff will hopefully eventually be added. I love the idea of stealing their codes, and you can see all their battle plans for a while, and then they realize their codes have been broken. And then you can feed misinformation as well.

The potential there is huge. My only concern is, is the AI smart enough to deal with it? Because it's very, very hard. Well, I played a game with munt on the topic of hearts of iron four he was germany right and he fucking within like i it like by the end of 1939 he conquered france and england um just by para dropping onto the capitals yeah you used to be able to do the the fast capture i think they nerfed it a bit okay because you one of the things you used to be able to do was get open borders with them like military access

and then you'd put units on all of their uh like victory point locations and then declare war on them and you went they used to capitulate it was so stupid yeah so that's like coming back to like is the ai smart enough i feel like it while things like that exist in the game like maybe it's not quite there i don't know so what's your plan for the rest this week p flex what are you what are you going to do to chill out is it thursday yeah so i i i'm going to stream and play games today i'm going to stream and play games tomorrow and then on saturday i'm going to do something that my kids have wanted me to do for ages which is they've wanted to be met at the airport by someone with a little sign that has their name on.

I'm going to make a little sign and wait there for them to come out and I'll be waiting for them and then I'll have the car and I'll drive them home. So I thought that would be kind of fun. Wear a suit and a hat and stuff. That would be funny. That'd be great. I often have it on iPads these days, actually. Well, I'm going to go old school, Lewis,

because my kids won't care. And sadly, our iPads stopped working. actually. Yeah. Well, I'm going to go old school, Lewis, because my kids won't care. And sadly, our iPads stopped working. Yeah, like a mini whiteboard. They use those two mini whiteboards. But yeah, you're right. They do something. Oh, their phone. They'll just hold up their phone

with the name on. I've seen that as well. The weird thing is, someone will be there with a sign sometimes saying Pyriam Flax. And people look at it and think, God, that's the weirdest name I've ever seen. I want to see what this guy looks like.

And then just the most average-looking average looking bald middle-aged man walks out i'm period flags they're like jesus what a fucking loon where does that name come from yeah but then you and then and then you play them some clips from your announcer pack and dota and they're like oh shit now i know now i see i can tell this guy's got it sewn up this guy knows what he's doing jeez so at the summit I just wanted to talk about this

a little bit because I thought it was something that happened this week so we had we had these like we had a little creator summit

where Terps talked about the sort of state of the Yolks cast and then he talked about the fourth floor guys who were kind of

the guys in house who do our sort of brand deals and stuff he talked about the state of the thing and I wasn't there and you were

like he's out slide one Pyrrion is out one, Pirian is out. Slide two, Sips is out. Then we had YouTube come down and do a chat about their kind of internal things. Apparently that was all like NDA, so watch what you're saying. I got an email about it. I didn't realize that.

But it's an interesting sort of thing because obviously it was only NDA because it was kind of a light-hearted back and forth talk and and obviously um our contact YouTube wanted to sort of address some of our questions but didn't necessarily want to be on the record as you know you know like um answering all of or or was was it was it was it true answers or was it like lawyer answers well it's it's no it's difficult because YouTube's so big and massive and complex that different teams are doing different things, and I think there's a lot of misconceptions that go around. Right, here's a conception of mine. Go on. They hate gamers, and I stopped making videos on there

because it was doing nothing, and they were never getting recommended to anybody, and I just thought, fuck it. Well, that was a thing they did, YouTube. They pulled out games. YouTube didn't like games. They pulled out kind of games. YouTube didn't like games. They pulled out a gaming section and made their own YouTube gaming. But it sort of failed.

And now they've shut it down and they're putting it back in. You've lost a customer, Mo. You just lost yourself a customer, Mo. But there's... Anyway, the main thing I wanted to talk about was the one where the guy from Mental Health Foundation came down

and he sort of, he talked about... he the other dangers right but other than loneliness are hunger anger and tiredness right so obviously you're addressing your hunger by getting loads of supplies in right yeah you're addressing your anger by taking it out on prob manticus or like you know the friends you're playing with yeah yeah and you're addressing your tiredness by having a nap in the evening that sounded like a very balanced like kind of all balanced out yeah i take care of myself so the other things that like apparently you're supposed to do there's sort of 10 ways okay one is uh so obviously here's the 10 ways to like help yourself eat well obviously eat healthily like at least feel that you're eating healthily or at least like try and get your five

a day or something like that right five back liver a day done so the next one is drink sensibly now i don't know whether that means drink sensibly you know as in like have a cider have one have one of those baseball hats that holds beer on the side of the stride and i have one around my waist that holds we so i never lead to leave the chair i just sort of exactly i a hydration bot. Have you seen this thing in Twitch chat? No. So it's like a bot that people have running in their channels. I didn't add it. It just goes there.

And it says... To remind you to drink water? It says, you've been streaming for two hours. Don't forget to stay hydrated. And I'm like, shit, you're right. And I go get some water. So hydration bot is actually pretty good. Yeah, the problem is when you're like really hydrated and stuff.

So you need to take a break to go get water but then you need to take a break to go pee like every five minutes too but here's something i've been trying to do because i spoke to a friend of mine at twitch and he said that you should run adverts you should always run adverts on your channel and that's something that i haven't done he said that a lot of people with very moderate views uh make a lot more money than you'd think because they run adverts consistently. Like every hour or something they just run some ads and I'm thinking, geez that's like, I could do it between Dota games but I just always forget. So then people were saying I should let my mods be able to run ads and when I'm AFK, which is inevitably going to happen between games because

I'll go get a beer or I'll go for a pee or something, that they could run ads. But I have no idea how to how to actually do that. I'd need to make them an editor of the channel or something i don't know if that is a security problem or whatever but well this is the next thing here on number three on the list is ask for help right number three for mental well-being run ads make sure you run ads as much as you can i'd love it if they dressed up the mental health thing as just a way to get people to run more ads. Yeah. Adverts have been shown by our scientists.

Cut to a picture of a guy in a coat looking a little awkward. A guy in one of those lab coats. A bear with a lab coat on. And a pair of glasses. Adverts make you healthy mentally. So run ads, people. Run them every five seconds if you can now before

take a break oh yeah we were just talking about doing that you know it's a good idea to like actually stretch your legs

for like 5 minutes every hour anyway so that's actually we actually do on our Twitch channel run 5 minutes of ads every hour partly because

we want people to not sit down for like 2 hours without stretching their legs hey on TV you get ads every fucking 10 minutes this is yeah but this isn't tv man this is the this is safe haven away from the

man and tv that's why sips is deliberately not going to do any of these recommendations because it's what the man wants that's right i don't do i i i'm my own man i don't do what people say i'm a loose cannon i'll hand in my badge on my way out number five it's quite similar to that to ask for help is keep in touch uh which i quite quite like you know i could be reminded to like keep in touch with people like i gave my nana ring at the weekend oh yeah uh she's she's going to be i should probably call my mom you know i haven't spoken to her for a while and you should ring up your your relatives i normally call my my mum when i'm walking the kids to or from school normally when i've dropped them off and i'm walking back i'll give her a call or it makes them happy it makes you happy yeah i'll do like she she did it she fucking she got whatsapp my mum's on whatsapp

yeah mine mine too fuck i get messages like it doesn't have to be your mum if you hate your mum it's just hard work it's just hard work talking hate your mum, bring up someone else. It's just hard work. It's just hard work talking to your mum when, you know, at this age, she's getting on a bit. She's, you know,

things are just a bit messed up for her occasionally. You don't have to talk for long. You could just like say, oh no, just drop in. You know, it'll make her day probably. Yeah, but she's just going to talk about Christmas

because we told her that she can't bring her dog up for Christmas because her dog's a fucking asshole. Yeah, we've had this. Is that the dog's name as well? Fucking arsehole.

Yeah, hey, arsehole. Good boy. Bad boy. Come here, bad boy. Yeah, no, he's a fucking arsehole. Good arsehole. He really is. I mean, I love dogs.

I'm an absolute animal lover, but this motherfucker can burn in hell. I hate this dog. So next on the list, yeah, is Care for Others, and it's got a little picture of a dog and a little picture of a baby and it's it's like it's like it's like totally a thing that you should that feels good right it's like nice to to do something for someone that is nice and buying someone a present or whatever depressed twitch streamer dehydrated you should you should you should um you should care for an animal and run ads about animals and run ads as well run ads so it was my birthday this

week and i got loads of presents and it was a really nice feeling like a lot of people dropped me nice messages gave me nice things and i had it was really actually i wasn't expecting it like to have don't get too carried away, Lewis. You're the boss. Of course, people are going to send you a lot of stuff and try to brown nose you, right? Everybody's trying to climb the ladder. No, that's not true. The only sort of presents I actually got were off Duncan, Terps, and that's it.

But everyone else sent me a nice card. I didn't give you a card. I apologize. I even came down to see you. Tyrion bought me a pack of biscuits. I sent you a WhatsAppapp i think i said happy birthday to you in person and ate one of your cupcakes what more do you want that was great it was it was lovely and i had a great time so care for us buying things for someone else like

just just be sensitive it's a nice thing to do i'm sorry i forgot i'm sorry it's positive and what you that's fine the other one is keep active okay that's obviously a big thing for like keeping your good good mental health just to to stretch your legs to have a walk to go out somewhere even if it's like just 10 minutes just doing some reps yeah just i mean i'm stood up now all right i do this podcast like standing up and it's like an excuse to it's good all right makes me feel like i'm actually doing exercise when i'm actually just standing up where you're just standing up yeah talk about your feelings i'm doing that right now. Yeah, we do that. This is literally what we do on this podcast.

This is a very therapeutic podcast. Find someone who you can just yammer away at all day. And, you know, they're not going to complain super bad when you just yammer away your feelings and thoughts and complaints and worries and anxieties. Just shift them off onto them instead. No, actually, it does help because sometimes, like, you know, you're making a bigger deal out of something in your head

than it actually is. And when you try and explain it to someone, they're like, this is not a big deal. And you're like, oh, yeah, it probably isn't a big deal. So that's helpful. And then the last thing is to do something you're good at. Right. Stop streaming.

Why do I play Dota then? What the fuck? Well, this is exactly my thought. When I saw this, I was like, everything in my life, I'm not good at. Hey, you're very good at Civ, Lewis. Oh, well, I've lost the last few games. I didn't want to bring it up.

Shut up. So, no, it's actually got the way that he that he presented was he had a little paintbrush there and i was like god that's that makes me feel really awful because you know i've been trying to like paint these little warhammer models and i'm terrible i've been trying to like do art at home and i really hate my my stuff i make i'm like i'm totally beating myself up about all that stuff so i'm gonna have to find something i'm actually good at and do that can i just say it's very hard to find something you're just just good at yeah like the find something I'm actually good at and do that. Can I just say, it's very hard to find something you're just good at. Yeah.

Like the idea that people are just good at things is a myth. I mean, if you look at Dota, for example, I've put 7,000 hours in, right? I'm better now than I was when I started, but I'm never going to be a pro player. The guys that started when they were 12 and 13 years old and have 12 to 14,000 hours in the game, they're good for a reason. They're not just good at it. They've dedicated their lives to it. So for art, if you want to get better at drawing or painting, it's not just something you're just naturally good at. Trust me.

It is, actually. It is not. Every single artist I know draws constantly, oh yeah no that that makes you better but some people inherently are better at art without spending even a second doing art some people are just are just better at uh conceptualizing and drawing than others but i'm talking about you see that in children right right but the thing is the kids like here's the thing if you really like doing something and it gives you a lot of satisfaction you're going to do it more right now yes there are some people that are geniuses and the way that they paint or the way that they draw is something that other people just could not do

with all the practice in the world but those people also spend fucking hours sketching drawing yeah of course they do yeah that's all they do it's like anything you like anyone who's good at anything it's it's yeah it's time put in like for sure it you just the more you do it the more you practice and stuff 100% the better you are but something like art as well is is so um you know like what what it art is the the type of thing where somebody will be like that's fucking amazing and then the person next to me be like that sucks it's not that great sort of thing you know like true like if they'd drawn an anime person some people would say that's awesome and i would say no it fucking sucks yeah exactly so there's that about it too right there's not like one standard for art it's not like art art's difference all over the place but like playing a video game there's one standard

right yeah yeah yeah you're good top of the pile you're right yeah find one that makes you feel like you're good at it though because sometimes it's quite depressing to play a game which makes you feel like you're shit like a little bit like dota so yeah mix it up have have have a lot of vibrant you know and you know what those apples and bananas aren't going to stock themselves on themselves on the shelves yeah get out there and sell some spuds go get out there and fucking you know if you're not if if if you feel like maybe the reason like some of these people have some problems with their mental health is because they're doing something that they're not good at. Maybe they need to go find a toilet to clean or something. Keep it simple, sort some spuds. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay. So I think we should end the podcast. But before we do, I just wanted to mention that I wanted to say like – Point taken. So no, I was having this – sorry, I'm trying to get my head around it. Basically, I was thinking like, you know, that little list, that little –

so I read a book called The Checklist Manifesto a while back, which was basically just talking about how you should try and like keep lists of things and tick off as you make progress and like, you know, no, like Give yourself achievements. It's good, right? To kind of keep these lists and see stuff that you've done on the day. Because a lot of times you just, you do loads of stuff and you sort of forget that you've done loads of stuff. And so you kind of have to champion your own successes.

And anyway, I was thinking, i was trying to find a nice a good app for it um to like course like to try and organize myself but also kind of give myself like and there's a load of things so if you know like i but also i wanted to sort of maybe even like make that that mental health sort of checklist into an app right so it's like you can like say today i did i did i ate healthily like like almost like a checklist it's like you can say, today I ate healthily. Almost like a checklist. It's like, these are the things I've done today that were positive. The thing that counts is steps. What the hell is that thing?

I did 11,000 steps today and shit. Exactly. It's almost stuff where it's just a quick thing where you can check the boxes. So if you are an app developer or something and you want to help me try and make a mental health app, I think that would be fun, a fun project to do. If you want to make a jugging app with me and sips get in touch yeah um so yeah that's just the shout out to if anyone is out there is is uh that way inclined so thanks you for listening to travel podcast we'll see you next week bye all right