Triforce! - Triforce! Mailbag Special #16: Lewis Under Fire

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

Triforce Mailbag Special 16! Someone encounters the Big Boss Bear in Banff, Triforce gets forever embedded into Trinity College in Cambridge, Lewis get some spicy complaint mail and we have some advic...e on how to deal with toxic relationships! Go to http://joinhoney.com/triforce to get PayPal Honey for free. Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pickaxe No song this time? No song. I don't want to sing. I'm in a hotel and my neighbors might hear me and think something weird is going on. Right. One of my friends said that he heard a man clearly masturbating and farting last night. And I thought, well, it could have been me, but it actually wasn't. They were five floors below me. Why haven't I ever thought of doing that? The guy was just doing it all. You're just getting so horny that you just got to let it all out, you know?
Starting point is 00:00:46 That's it. You got to jack off and you got to do some farting and stuff too. I'm going to be really self-conscious when I'm doing that now that other people can hear me. I thought I had privacy. I did see you singing at CP Flex on stage. When? At the Doja event. Oh, we sang Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star, that's right.
Starting point is 00:01:03 A little jazz band you got going out with all the talented random people. Why were you sang Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star. That's a little jazz band you got going out with all the talented random people. Why were you singing Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star? So the drummer, we have an in-house band at the event here at Dream League. It's just three lads. They're really, really good. There's a guitarist, a bassist, and a drummer, but they can play a bunch of other
Starting point is 00:01:19 instruments. They can play keyboards and everything else, like trumpet. They're proper musicians. The drummer was sick, and the other two lads had finished their shift so it was just us with the equipment and we were like uh my friend sheep had been practicing playing the drums the band were helping her uh neil can play the keyboard a bit so we just went up and winter played the triangle because he's not musical and we just sort of uh decided to sing twinkle twinkle little star is the only song that neil could play on the keyboard so that was right that's a good that's a
Starting point is 00:01:49 good intro song right yeah of course the notes are really easy and uh delivered it three blind mice is also another one three blind mice could have been a doer get them on three blind mice or mary had a little lamb very easy as well those are really good ones too for sure yeah it was very funny it looks like you're having fun anyway it's been a fun time yeah on the topic of a man uh masturbating and farting um let me give you some context as to why this made me think of this okay i imagine that if you're farting and masturbating you have your legs akimbo while you're jacking off i'm assuming that yeah i'm assuming that as well and it reminded me of this show i watched That if you're farting and masturbating, you have your legs akimbo while you're jacking off, right? I'm assuming that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I'm assuming that as well. And it reminded me of this show I watched. It was a documentary I watched about prison one time. I know, Flax, you know a lot about prisons. Oh, yeah. You've had a lot of tales about prisons. But have you ever heard of the term spooning out? No.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Okay, let me... It sounds disgusting. Let me enthrall you. Yes, I thought it might have been something different and when the guy was describing it i sort of um winced a little bit because i thought oh here we go this is gonna be pretty bad do we have to the way he described it was um a man in the cell uh laying ass naked on a bed uh in a room with like many other men and his legs sticking out in the air and at this point i was like fuck me i do not want to hear the rest of this okay one of them had a plastic spoon
Starting point is 00:03:11 and the reason for this was they were spooning out this man's anus for the drugs that he'd smuggled in to the prison yeah they couldn't they were lodged up there so high, or so far, they couldn't get him out. So, this guy, they were holding his legs back, putting him into, like, the- basically the birthing position, and using a plastic spoon to try to just dig the drugs out of his ass. Oh my god. Trying to rescue there. Yeah. I guess, otherwise, he'd have to go to to the hospital because he can't pass them naturally,
Starting point is 00:03:45 is that what they're saying? I mean, it's essentially life-saving surgery at this point. Because they're gonna rupture. It's gonna rupture at some point and he's gonna have a butt full of cocaine or heroin or whatever it is. Yeah. So it's kind of like emergency surgery. It's like a- they're all wearing like surgical masks, there's like a machine.
Starting point is 00:04:02 No, they don't have a machine, just one of the inmates just says beep occasionally. The prisoners, I think, get very good at the sort of DIY thing, right? Like we see them cooking up gourmet grade meals with their little kettle and stuff like that. And I guess this is no different, you know, just a bit of a life-saving intervention surgery. Yeah. You know, you've got your little society and you've got your rules. That's it. Yeah. So, yeah, no, it just made me think of that and I thought I would share. Get the Spoonman.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah. Spooning out. Bring the spoon. All right. Here's an email. This is from Matt, who is a pilot. Right. And he's talking, we were talking about helicopters. I think one opinion you three share with almost everyone I talk to is the feeling helicopters are more dangerous than aeroplanes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. As a rotor wing and fixed wing pilot, I have always felt safer in a helicopter. Due to a helicopter's ability to land almost anywhere with an open vaguely flat surface, you can plonk one down in a field at the slightest sign of an impending emergency, an ability I have taken advantage of on numerous occasions. It usually doesn't take long to get a helicopter on the ground because I rarely fly above a thousand feet. On one proportionary landing, the man whose yard I landed in brought my crew some ice
Starting point is 00:05:19 cream and let us play with his family's litter of golden retriever puppies as they were dog breeders. I understand most people won't perceive helicopters the way i do because of the dreaded auto rotation but after 10 years flying both types of aircraft i feel a heck of a lot safer in a helicopter interesting oh well yeah that is interesting thank you for being so level-headed about it as well yeah that was a good email yeah because oftentimes it's like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about idiot um and here's all my here's my cv of all the flying time i have and stuff and you think yeah no this is great info
Starting point is 00:05:51 but like just delivered poorly you know but that was actually delivered really well thank you helicopters were like the motorbikes of the sky do you know i mean like like if a plane is a car or like a big jumbo jet is a van yeah or a bus even i guess like do you ever say like i feel like the helicopters have got a reputation as yeah crashing more well yeah they're a lot smaller they are a lot smaller i gotta say though and um and and uh thank you for the uh the email pilot man and also i don't know if you would agree with this but i've flown in a very small propeller plane like a six-seater uh because that's what uh you fly on to get from jersey
Starting point is 00:06:31 to guernsey which is not it's not very far it's like a six minute flight or something like that but they use these really really small propeller planes they don't go up that high you're sitting right behind the pilot so you can see over his shoulder and you can see everything he sees and stuff it's it's a really cool experience actually but i did not uh feel unsafe at all like i just it felt better than uh flying on a big commercial airliner in some ways i felt a lot more safe like i don't know maybe because i could see like what he was doing or i could see out the front or something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:08 I didn't feel like as not in control somehow. I mean, I suppose it would be like being in a car where the driving viewport, if you like, whatever you call it, the windshield, was completely blocked off from your view and you couldn't see the driver. Yeah. And you couldn't even really see where you were going. Like if you were traveling at 600 miles an hour yeah exactly are you still interested in learning to fly sips because that was a that was a on your bucket list for a while no i'm not interested in fully learning um but i would be interested in doing like you know um like a one-off you know like how they you know you can
Starting point is 00:07:40 get it for somebody's birthday i'm not hinting by the way you know like you can get like an hour fly time for somebody's birthday and they go up with somebody and they they don't teach you how to fly they just sort of show you the interesting bits and let you take over for a split second while you're cruising that would that would be sufficient yeah that would be fine for me i like i don't need to know how to learn how to land i'd be stressed to the gills like trying to land or take off and stuff like that would be too much for me but the rest of it you know just want to see the interesting bits just want to cruise you know would you be interested go down look at the titanic no personally i would not be no and uh there's been some more there's been some more news there's been some more news on this since the last time we talked about it. Yeah, they did. Yeah, sorry, we're recording it in Veldt.
Starting point is 00:08:25 They are gone, unfortunately. All right, here's one from Paul. Now, this is interesting. I have a follow-up to this because this is something some friends of mine used to do, something similar. On the last Mailbag episode, Sips said that BB guns don't really have the force to break the skin. I have a slight quibble with that, the only reason being that I currently have a BB in
Starting point is 00:08:44 my leg and have since I was aboutble with that, the only reason being that I currently have a BB in my leg, and have since I was about eight. Growing up in Texas, I know you might think that we spent most days furthering our intellect and learning about other cultures, being as open-minded as we are. He's being sarcastic, I think. Surprisingly, however, my brothers and I somehow had access to a BB rifle. We came up with a fun game called Pump Once and Run. The rules shockingly drew their inspiration from the title of the game. One person would run back and forth across the backyard and the other person would pump the air rifle once and fire. If you hit someone, you won. Not sure what we were trying for, but we were bored. I got hit in the calf and
Starting point is 00:09:17 started crying. My mother had a nurse friend over who swore up and down that the BB didn't break the skin. I confirmed in my adult years by x-ray that the BB was still there, but they didn't want to cut it out due to the risk of infection. Paul, some friends of mine used to play a game called Dart Head, where one of them would have darts, you know, the kind of darts you play darts with, and the other would pop his head up and down from behind the sofa, and his brother would throw darts at his head. Jesus. And he would have to duck out of the way at the last second that was dart head dart head is not the kind of game i want to be playing
Starting point is 00:09:50 on this i don't want to get shot out with a gun either this is dredged out something from my distant deep memory right now when i when i was in the scouts okay and i'm i've been more than about eight or nine yeah maybe ten um we used to go down in our village and join the Scouts and do things like a jumble sale. And I remember one time there was a jumble sale and often what would happen would be lots of shit would get donated that should have really gone in the bin to begin with. And then afterwards, we'd have to take it all back to the bin.
Starting point is 00:10:22 We'd have to take it all to the dump because it was all crap. And one of the things that was left was an enormous amount of porcelain, but it was Nazi stuff. Right. Oh my God. It was like a Hitler, a little porcelain Hitler,
Starting point is 00:10:36 and some little porcelain Germans. You know, it was like World War II stuff. What youth brigade were you part of? I don't know who gave it or how we ended up with it, but I remember the scout leader at the time saying, let's take this around the back of the scout hut and shoot it with BB guns. So we used it for like target practice around the back of the hut and everyone shot this porcelain to smithereens with BB guns. For some reason that has been dredged out of my mind now of course this must have been in about 1990 do you know i mean this is a long time
Starting point is 00:11:10 ago yeah um and so i guess there was still there were old folks you know pipes dying and leaving this collection of stuff they had yeah they're all nazi memorabilia i don't know how insensitive like that stuff was back then oh it was it was still bad whether it was like yeah i figure i feel like it would have had to have been pretty bad even back then right i mean that was our reaction our reaction to it was to shoot like not sell it and to shoot it so yes yeah but yeah um oh carry on what's the next one uh okay um this one is uh a rant from chris okay which i'm gonna read it because it's interesting it ends with a question that you might be able to answer uh i'm writing to ask if you have any stories about parking tickets right and they're uninformed dispensers he means um
Starting point is 00:11:58 like traffic uh wardens yes attached is a photo of the sign i was meant to spot one bay down and two bays across the road. There are three ticketed signs. However, the one hidden sign is stating it was a permit bay. I'm going to show you lads this picture because this is ridiculous. Right. Is this in the UK? Yes, this is very much in the UK.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's such a, such a, it's such like a death trap. Right. There's no sign in that picture. Exactly. Right. So if you look at that picture, it's hidden behind a bush. It's a wall and a bush. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:28 So look at the pole at the bottom of the bush. The sign is clearly behind there. That's what Paul was meant to, Chris was meant to spot. Right. Was this sign. I'm usually on the side to protect people just doing their job from abuse. This is where the email gets really angry. However, what cunt decided this was fair
Starting point is 00:12:45 and have his huge cunt of a friend, Alan, reject the appeal? I don't know why this is so specific. This seems to be going above and beyond to give me a ticket. His huge cunt of a friend. His huge cunt of a friend, Alan. They travel in packs. Well, Alan, you've done Chris wrong here. I think it's very unreasonable. He's pissed. No, honestly, though, Chris, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I fucking hate getting parking tickets, even if I'm in the wrong. It just, I hate it. It's so annoying. Like, I've only gotten like two and it was definitely my fault every time. It's like getting told off by a teacher combined with local jobsworths do you mean you know some local allen on the council rejecting it do you mean after you've clearly put in a legit appeal and it's like why are these people so awful unreasonable it's like small village yeah assholes and yeah people like being it's the classic thing of like the traffic warden
Starting point is 00:13:42 hovering around waiting for the you you know so when you're like one minute over, they're like slapping the ticket on. I hate that. I hate how like you're not really meant to park on the side of the road, especially when it's like really obstructive, like buses can't get by and stuff like that. And you will see cars parked up like that all day long for days and days and days and these guys are just wandering around parking lots giving tickets you think get out there and get those cars off the side of the road the ones that like blocking the whole road like people can't even drive past or it's a two-way road and you have to wait for like all the buses to come by and stuff because somebody's just parked on the side of the road but they never seem to do anything about those.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I know it's always a perspective thing, but you always feel like they're not on, it's not going your way. Yeah. I mean, when's the dice going to go my way? Exactly. Like, I'm rolling the dice. I'm rolling. I'm rolling.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I'm blowing on the dice. Like, it never, it's always at the end of the longest line, you know? I do have one positive parking parking ticket story which is that i was given a parking ticket this is for parking in my road uh and they said i was parked on the pavement and i submitted photographic evidence that the part of the road that i'd parked on was not pavement um and i gave my case i stated it eloquently if i may say so and they said yeah fair enough we decided to rescind the ticket. Yeah. I was like, great. So it does work when you have a legitimate.
Starting point is 00:15:07 That is a great story and everything, but you should not have had to go to that much effort. Well, you know what I mean? Here's the thing. Imagine. What about people who are as charismatic as you? No,
Starting point is 00:15:17 no, no. This was an email. This was just an email. What if my 95 year old grandmother did that? She wouldn't be able to. She shouldn't be driving a car. That's my opinion.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Oh my God. I honestly think. Sorry, to. She shouldn't be driving a car. That's my opinion. Oh, my God. I honestly think I've been in a car. Sorry, grandmama. He doesn't mean what he says. He does mean it. She listens to the podcast every week. You're going to get an email from her now. I'm happy to.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I'd love to get an email from your granny. You ageist. Happy. Happy to be an ageist. All right. This is an interesting one. This is from Rian. Rian? Rian. Rian. It's an Irish one. This is from Rian. Rian.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Rian. It's an Irish name. Oh, Rian. I'm a 21-year-old college student from Ireland. Love the podcast. Blah, blah, blah. Yes. Yes. Thank you, Rian. So, I've been meaning to write in for some time now, but forgot which episode I was writing in reference to. Classic listener, honestly. Sounds right up our street. Yeah. Recently, I've rediscovered it. It's episode 99.7 oh yes episode drug use featured a tad and you mentioned how you wanted to do lsd but mrs flax forbade it thank god you listened to her a couple of summers ago me and a
Starting point is 00:16:19 group of lads rented a house out in the middle of nowhere for a week with the ultimate goal of drinking ourselves to death and somehow lsd got involved and I and a friend tripped for a total of 13 hours each. We started at 2pm, it hit me around 3, I was laying down flat on a bench staring at the sky and it started with the clouds morphing into rolling dice. It was surreal. What I saw changed from my friends in cartoon form, to children hanging from a noose, to David Bowie in the shower, Che Guevara on a wall. I found that looking at people who knew me better than others there revealed far more disturbing images than those who did not. Some other fun fact, I only moved four times in total in that 13 hours. I ate nothing and only drank a single cup of water all
Starting point is 00:17:01 day. I had extremely short-term memories, like asking a friend a question, forgetting what it was that they said every time. And my entire world was being shattered after a friend opened a door I was standing next to. Basically lost all sense of time and space. I was completely out of it. I would genuinely place it... This is a weird one, because he said, don't do it. I would genuinely place it in the top five days of my life. Wow. But here is why I too recommend you never do this drug. It messed with my heart to such don't do it. I would genuinely place it in the top five days of my life. Wow. But here is why I too recommend you never do this drug. It messed with my heart to such an extreme degree that I genuinely thought I would die at least three separate times. It beat faster
Starting point is 00:17:35 than I ever thought it could. And I know it was not in my head as my other friends confirmed it by checking my heart. The only way I was able to get it down was attempting to believe it was all in my head and it would go down within 10 minutes if I were to guess. Jesus, well, it just shows, eh? Do you know what? I mean, I grew up around a lot of people who like doing drugs and drinking and all that kind of stuff when we were younger. And at the time, you think, yeah, whatever, you know, this is happening and these people seem to know what they're doing or whatever and there was always like a couple of scare stories you know people had to go to the hospital or or whatever they got carried away and stuff and that's all fine but
Starting point is 00:18:12 i now that i have kids this petrifies me to think that they might be doing this stuff you know what i mean because of all the things like now now that i'm older i realize everything that could have possibly gone wrong and how it's a miracle that most of the people i know from being a kid are even still alive you know what i mean yeah where's the scale where's the scale on this like i can go to the pub and have one drink right and be a little bit tipsy i've been to the pub with you and one drink is your hard limit no but every time there must be like a little like a minor dose right, you don't have to go to like the fucking, like literally the spacing out of your entire body and like fucking floating above the earth.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I think that's called micro dosing. Microdosing. That's micro dosing, which is where you just take a little bit. All right. This one, uh, this one is from a fellow Canuck,
Starting point is 00:18:58 Adam. Hello, Adam. he says, uh, he, last year he moved to Calgary, Alberta.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Sips called this the Texas of Canada. Yeah. And it sort of is, but it is truly beautiful and the people are very friendly. Oh, yeah. No, don't get me wrong. It is a beautiful part of the country,
Starting point is 00:19:11 for sure. Yeah. My girlfriend and I are very outdoorsy and hike often. I have done portage. She has yet to. Well done. We're halfway.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, good. Last weekend, we were hiking outside the mountain town of Banff. Yes. In the woods. Oh, my God. Have you guys ever been to Banff or heard of Banff?
Starting point is 00:19:26 No. Oh man, do a fucking Google image search on Banff and prepare to have your mind blown. It's beautiful. It's probably the most beautiful place I've ever been to on this whole God forsaken earth. It's incredible. I'm just going to look at it.
Starting point is 00:19:39 That's B-A-N-F-F. Yeah, B-A-N-F-F. Holy shit. Yeah. Look at this place. It's fucking wild, man. You can just go as well. It takes a couple of hours to drive from Calgary, but it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You drive by the old Winter Olympics village. They got all the old ski slopes and everything. And then you sort of wind your way into the mountain. And it's just like being in Grizzly Hills in fucking World of Warcraft or something. Like, it's fucking insane. Well, it's funny you should mention thatcraft or something. Like it's fucking insane. Well, it's funny you should mention that, young Christopher. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Here we go. We were hiking outside the mountain town of Banff. We were remarking on how a boulder ahead of us sort of looked like a bear. Right. And then it raised its big boulder head to look right at us. It was a huge grizzly. I would guess five foot tall to the shoulders. Have a look at this bad boy.
Starting point is 00:20:24 This was the bear in question. I've just posted a picture of it. They've taken a picture of it. That's a big old bear. That is a known bear in that area. They just backed away from this thing. This particular bear is called the Boss. He weighs 700 pounds, about 320 kilos.
Starting point is 00:20:39 That's a big bear. He has been seen to eat other bears, and he once got hit by a freight train and just walked it off. Yes. So look at the size of that bear. Have you guys ever had particularly scary wildlife encounters is the question that Adam ends with. I am more frightened of that bear on that trail
Starting point is 00:20:57 than fucking helicopters or, you know, submarines or, you know, bicycling on the road like do you mean any driving a car motorbike anything that bear terrifies me yeah yeah well i i have a well a well documented i've i've i'm sure i've told this story even on this podcast but i will do a tldr very briefly i had a bear encounter uh i was camping with my parents and my brother when I was young. My parents went for like a little walk and left me and my brother. Well, actually, no, they took my brother with them. I was left alone.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I was a little bit older. I was probably like 12 or something. I had my Game Boy. I was in the tent playing my Game Boy while they were gone. And I heard like some rustling, not like immediately outside but like further down so i looked down the road and there's this huge fucking bear sniffing around at like the garbage cans and everything so i went back in the tent hid underneath my sleeping bag and played dead because i was told that that was what you did um i i wasn't actually strictly told that it's just
Starting point is 00:22:03 something i picked up on from like watching TV or something like that is that the right advice? I don't even know my parents came back and they were like where are you? they knew I was there but they were like you know they thought I was just like playing a joke
Starting point is 00:22:19 or whatever and I was like get in the car quick there's a bear out there and they were like oh shit so we all got into the car and we were like my get in the car quick, there's a bear out there, and they were like, oh shit, so we all got into the car, and we were like, my parents were like, there's no, there was no bear, whatever, right, like, and I was like, no, no, there's for sure a bear down the road, I've been hiding, like, I don't know if he's around here or not, and then sure enough, he was like 10 feet away from the car, he'd made his way up to our camp or whatever, so he had to wait it out wait until he was like far enough away and then my dad went to uh speak to the people who run the camp or whatever
Starting point is 00:22:52 and apparently he was like tagged known and everything but they still had to like tranquilize him and airlift him out into the wild or whatever but yeah it could have been uh could have been a pretty nasty one he was huge huge. He was huge. They are scary, man. They are pretty scary. So there you go. There you go. Thank you for the email. No problem.
Starting point is 00:23:11 This is from Anon. This is from Anon. Oh, Anon. All right. Not anal. And I like the start to this email. I'll cut straight to the point. I've been working at Trinity College Cambridge for a couple of years now, and for a ton of
Starting point is 00:23:22 reasons, I am leaving. As part of my departure, I wanted to do something for you lads. I've written, I have a tiny penis and have crudely drawn the triforce symbol on a piece of paper. I have folded it and attached it to a section of the college where it will go unnoticed and untouched for quite some time. I hope you get a chuckle knowing that this exists. Also, with your consent and given that I receive a reply before I leave, 22nd of June, we've just missed the cutoff. I think it could be a laugh to put more information on the paper,
Starting point is 00:23:48 such as this email address and a plea for information on the state of the note. If you want to know anything else about the college, feel free to ask. And I will now post the pictures for you lads to see. These are the pictures that I've been given. This is the note in question, which, as you can can see is a scrappy piece of paper that says I have a tiny penis. I have a tiny penis with three triangles, yes. With the triangles.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And then this is, I presume where it's tucked, which is, I don't know what that is. It's like a little shelfy thing or something. Yeah. Held down by what looks like a, I don't know what that is, a piece of plastic. Like a magnet. A magnet, something. Something, yeah. If you work at Trinity College, Cambridge, and you come across this note,
Starting point is 00:24:26 go ahead and add the email address to it with an addendum saying, please tell us about yourself if you find this note. It's like a little Triforce geocache. It is. Only it's hidden. Yeah. And it's kind of weird. Because I think you might find it and not get the reference.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah, you might. And be not get the reference you know yeah you might and be very confused just think why have they drawn three triangles and told us they have a tiny penis how strange so it needs more information but yes i'm down for this to become a little geocache we could set these up all over the country and why not yeah why not people do like this is a common thing in towns and cities where they have um you know zebra crossings they always have like some rave stickers stuck on the fucking crossing posts hidden i like that i don't want any graffiti no yeah i like the i like the hidden aspect of it as well yeah it's like going to comic walking through the crowd and not recognizing 99 of what the t-shirts reference but then the one
Starting point is 00:25:23 you do see you're like oh yes yeah i appreciate i appreciate i appreciate that we appreciate you all right this is uh this is from chris this is i don't think i've ever had an email with a subject uh heading quite like this but uh it's a it's an interesting story at least i can cut to the chase a little bit uh the the subject line is accidental sex offender wow that. That's the title of the email. That is a title. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Okay. So don't worry. It's not as bad as it sounds. Basically, he went out for a night in Bristol for a stag do, and they had a good night. They were down at the Brew Dog Pub down by the canal, if you know that. I know. I know it well. Oh, do you now?
Starting point is 00:26:01 He knows it well. After a few drinks, he's going to go down to the toilet. I hadn't realized one of my friends followed me, and whilst walking down the stairs shouted at me in his best Johnny Vegas impression, I'm going to fuck that tight little ass when we get in that toilet. Jesus. I thought this was quite funny until I heard a blood-curdling scream and realized there was a young lady who was barely
Starting point is 00:26:25 five foot tall at the foot of the stairs staring up at me with eyes as wide as saucepans after a few seconds of confusion i then realized that due to the angle of the stairs all this poor young lady could see was me a six foot tall 15 stone lad who's followed her down the stairs to then loudly proclaim that he was going to make love to her back passage whether she liked it or not behind me naturally realizing this i did the only logical thing i panicked and stood still blocking her way up the stairs and stared at her dumbly it wasn't until she pushed past me and ran up the stairs and my friend that i snapped to attention and thought maybe i should explain things to her but of course by that point it was too late um so then they just fucking legged it which is a sensible thing to do uh my question to you guys is what would you have done in this
Starting point is 00:27:09 situation oh man i would have been i would have probably made it a lot worse but i would have definitely been talking i would have been like oh my god i'm so sorry you know that wasn't meant for you you you wouldn't believe this i would have gone into the hole you have first first i drank a whole bunch of milk before I left the house. Cause I knew I'd be drinking, you know, like I would just be verbal diarrhea, all battle stations manned.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Like I would just be trying to backpedal out of that one. Uh, so like not, not with any eloquence whatsoever, but I would be trying my hardest. Like there's no way I would just not say anything and then run away. I would feel compelled to speak as well. try and try i think it's different because i'm not a six foot tall 15 stone guy i'm a five foot tall seven stone guy do you mean i'm like i'm half this guy's size so
Starting point is 00:27:56 it means that i probably she probably wouldn't have believed the voice had come from me you know maybe and so she would have i would have just probably like well then again maybe the stairs gives it like an even bigger advantage i think i would have tried to back out i would be like whoa that wasn't me that's this guy oh my god i'll protect you jesus christ oh dear yeah i don't know i don't know why i would that is very unfortunate but it just shows you gotta be careful what you're saying, you know, especially when you're out in public or whatever. Like it's, you know, kind of laugh or whatever, but you never know who's around listening
Starting point is 00:28:33 and, you know, they might be taking it the wrong way as well. Yeah. So, Daph and Ravs and some others went to Berlin last weekend. It's not really my story to tell, but Daph was in a bathroom in Germany. Right. And he was chatting to, just chatting to a stranger that he'd only just met in the pub, in this bathroom.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Uh-huh. And there was basically, one of them got the wrong, the stranger got the wrong idea. Right. And I'll let Daph tell the story on his own terms, but you have to ask him, P-Flex. It's very funny.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Okay. Very funny. So basically just like don't give people the wrong impression when you're in the bathroom. I can imagine what the wrong impression was. Yes, I can imagine. Yeah. Poor Daph.
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Starting point is 00:32:13 ash uh and the uh the title is rocket in your pocket ad no wisconsin stuff here which is a common subject heading people are saying no this is not about Wisconsin. Don't worry. Thank you. I still read the email. I appreciate you. That's all right. I download my podcast so I can listen to them offline and therefore usually skip the ads. Oh, thanks for supporting the podcast, Ash.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Appreciate that. However, today I was running late, so I let them roll. I can say with some certainty that my phone is not listening to me and giving me ads based on what I'm talking about, as the first ad I got was for erectile dysfunction pills. I'm a woman. That included the delightful phrase, it's time to put a rocket in your pocket. Nice. The second was a nappy ad. I don't have kids and I'm not planning on having any, including a wonderful description of how they'll help you to avoid a poonami, which is a tsunami of poo. Yes, I've heard of this. Keep up
Starting point is 00:33:02 the good work. That's interesting. I did think it was listening, but obviously in that case, it has no idea what you want, Ash. It's not listening to you. It's listening to the podcast because these are all very common topics on the podcast. That's a very good point. It might have been listening to us. Yeah. Not you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:19 As three old men, these two ads are very relevant to us. Yes. Erectile dysfunction. And poo. And it's kind of weird know erectile dysfunction and poo and it's kind of weird that erectile dysfunction and then kids you know what i mean like the two would would almost seem to cancel maybe it's nappies for old folks though oh could be yeah yeah so maybe they're hoping that what gives you a boner is nappies oh that's well there are there are communities out there for sure of uh of people wearing diapers and getting boners in them.
Starting point is 00:33:48 So, you know, could be. God. Could be. You'd think that you'd have to take the advertising more specifically. No, what I'm saying is if you're advertising to someone you haven't any information on at all, you'd think that you'd sell, like, the ads that would be served would be very generic stuff. Do you know what I mean? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Like, very broad stuff. All right, this is an email from Brett, which is not a name you hear very often, and Brett is from Wolverhampton, so read this out with your best black country accent. That would be great. Right. Oh, hi, Chirps.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I was listening to an old episode of the podcast where Sips got into playing Fortnite because they added in the Wu-Tang Clan, and it reminded me of an old game called Wu-Tang Chase the Pwn. It was released on PS1, and basically you went around levels killing some goons while playing as someone from Wu-Tang. Each member had their own signature weapon, like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,
Starting point is 00:34:36 and had a fatality like Mortal Kombat. Really? My favourite was the Jizzer, who had some knife on the end of a chain and would pull people's heads off. I'm sure Method Man had a big hammer. The more I i write this email the more it sounds like a fever dream so i had to google it to make sure it existed love the podcast all the best i get that uh sometimes as well i'll remember something from being from you know when i was a kid or whatever game i used to play and it seems so absurd that i actually have to look it up to make sure that i wasn't just
Starting point is 00:35:03 dreaming it or whatever but yeah no it oftentimes is oftentimes is the case that games are just a bit mental and they are exactly how you remember them, mostly mental. I think often about old games, but you can just Google them these days. So, it's very hard to have a, is that a real thing or did I imagine it? The only problem is there are movies that I've definitely watched. And when I try to look them up, I cannot Google enough detail about it to actually find it. And it kind of leads down a weird rabbit hole where I'm just stuck. And I'm convinced now that I've added details on that weren't there, which is- I do that with a movie called The Peanut Butter Solution, because I think the movie gave me nightmares when I was a kid. And I don't remember the movie that much,
Starting point is 00:35:44 but I remember vaguely the nightmares I had about the movie and I get the two mixed up all the time it's a very confusing mess for me even thinking about that movie okay this one is from Josh um from Down Under I believe sorry to compare camping in the UK with camping in Australia but I have a funny story you might like this is this is titled camping in the Heat and Complaint about Lewis. It's a double header. It's not a big complaint. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:36:10 In high school, my school took its year nine students on a two-day camping trip. The aim was to teach us leadership, et cetera, et cetera. We had to pack our bags ourselves in team of three and distribute weight so that we could take all the stuff we needed without everyone having heavy bags. My group was me and two close mates. One of us was responsible for the water, one had the tent and cooktop, and the other one had to carry the food. We did not take this seriously and did not coordinate at all.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I can well believe it. Yeah. I arrived on the day, which started with a five-hour hike through the Aussie bush on a 35-degree day wearing track pants and a long-sleeved shirt. Oh my god. About an hour in i realized it was too hot and went to change into my shorts but i'd neglected to bring any or any other pants at all all i had was my t-shirt and my pair of tracksuit pants i decided to cut the legs off
Starting point is 00:36:55 my pants with my pocket knife but ended up cutting them too short so i had to do the hike in rough cut booty shorts despite not packing any clothes i was still too unfit, and one of the rugby players in my class ended up carrying some of my stuff. After arriving at the campsite, which was next to the beach, we got ready for dinner. When I asked what our mate had packed, he said his mum had made him some spaghetti bolognese. He then pulled out a massive Ziploc bag, unrefrigerated, of a homemade spag bol. This was the only food we had for the two-day trip. Oh my God. Which also included the hike back up a cliff face.
Starting point is 00:37:28 We ate it anyway. Because we were camping next to the beach, it got cold at night, and not having any legs in my pants, I got a cold and had a runny nose for the rest of the trip. In the morning, we had spag bol for Brekkie, and my mate shat himself on the hike out. That sounds awful.
Starting point is 00:37:44 The visuals of that whole thing are the worst. That sounds like the exact event that happens on every one of these Duke of Edinburgh hikes. Honestly, this is like this textbook hike. Yeah, it is. So the PS, Lewis,
Starting point is 00:37:59 when Flax mentioned the live lightning strike website, you said, well, it's over the ocean, so it can't be reported. This annoyed me because did you really think the website had people looking out their windows, updating strikes to the exact location? Keep these comments to yourself on episodes. Yeah, Lewis. Fucking idiot. Jeez. So I have an answer to what happens with the lightning strikes. We had quite a few emails about it, actually. So the way it works is when lightning, this is from Darius,
Starting point is 00:38:33 when lightning strikes, it also releases a burst of radio waves, which various listening stations pick up. And you can then use the delay between the arrival to triangulate the position of the lightning strike. Amazing. So that's the answer. But there is more interesting stuff these listening stations can hear. Since the radio waves are in the very low frequency, they are within human hearing frequency. You can therefore convert them directly to sound and then there are these websites where you can tune in and hear lightning strikes across the world and you can hear the
Starting point is 00:39:01 the sound of the lightning. Does it sound like you'd expect it to? Or is it like one of those things, you know, where they're like, here, listen to this crazy sound we heard in space. And it's always like, ooh. Is it just that or what? I don't know. It's like I've heard this shit before.
Starting point is 00:39:18 They're like, this is what this star sounds like. They play this otherworldly fucking whale song sound. And they're like, it doesn't actually sound like that. is like pitched up 1000 times or like you know or like you know here's the sound of jupiter and it's like yeah it doesn't sound at all how you'd expect it to right no and it's also i think they're just converting i mean it might sound maybe it does sound like that if you know they're always like this is what it would sound like if there was an atmosphere and it made a sound you could hear. It's like,
Starting point is 00:39:47 all right, so it's not actually making a sound. I think the problem is, is that what happens is right. You get a scientist doing something interesting and they report it. And then the, the, the tabloid,
Starting point is 00:39:59 you know, the next tier up report it in less words. And then the next tier up report it as a single line until it gets until that's what we see we get you know we get from like a study of the you know radio waves given off by a black hole that gets converted through to black holes sound like
Starting point is 00:40:16 a fart they do imagine you're out there like hey guys look look on the horizon it's just fart noise. It's just bubbling a little. It kind of sucks the majesty out of space. Maybe not fart.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Maybe it should sound like a flushing toilet. It just sounds like a clown horn. It literally sounds like a flushing toilet. That would be hilarious. This is another email having a pop at Lewis. So I marked it to be red. Yeah, why not? It's just funny.
Starting point is 00:40:44 No, go for it. I just wanted to reach red yeah why not it's funny no go for it uh just wanted to reach out in support of lewis's mini rant on carl walker i'm sure that the short time they spent together was enough for lewis to understand his entire personality yeah and get an accurate read on his complete lack of intelligence and i'm doubly sure that his rudeness slash aloofness was not a result of lewis making some cringey joke about dwarves or Walker's mum, because when in the past has Lewis put his foot in his mouth around an athlete? Jesus, it's true. Karl Walker was definitely the weirdo in that interaction. Thank you, Matthew. Maybe
Starting point is 00:41:15 that wasn't meant to be read sarcastically, in which case I apologise, Matthew. I could read it non-sarcastically. I'm sure that the time they spent together was enough for Lewis to understand his entire personality and get an accurate read on his completesarcastically. I'm sure that the time they spent together was enough for Lewis to understand his entire personality and get an accurate read on his complete lack of intelligence. And I'm doubly sure that his rudeness and lewdness was not a result. It does. I can't help myself. Well, look,
Starting point is 00:41:35 I've learned over the years to make snap judgments of people when I've met them. And I feel like I'm a very good snap judge of character. If you were there my friend you would have agreed with me I promise yeah there you go because my snap judgment of your character
Starting point is 00:41:52 is that you're a very intelligent man and you would be able to judge other people's characters very well well there you go take that one all the way to the bank take it all the way to the bank this is from James just listened recently Take that one all the way to the bank. Yeah, take it all the way to the bank. This is from James.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Just listened recently to episode 259, where you talk about conspiracy theories. My dad is vulnerable to being easily led due to autism. He left our family a few years ago and met a woman who was an ardent anti-vaxxer. She effectively brainwashed him into believing it all. And since then, it's gone from vaccines to chemtrails to the really crazy things like lizard people and all the rest of it, and including that the earth is flat. I hardly recognize him anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:34 He's a completely different person. I cannot have a conversation with him without him chatting about this nonsense. As expert dads, how should I approach dealing with this? This is a tough one. It's a tough one. But I think you just have to, as hard as it is for me, my advice would just be, just limit your exposure. And then, you know, when you are around somebody who you do disagree with a lot of what they think and say, at least if you're not around them all the time, you can sort of just go along with it a little bit, you know? You can just sort of say,
Starting point is 00:43:10 oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know what I mean? But I think if you're around somebody all the time, and that is like the topic of conversation, it's just going to get worse and worse, right? There's going to be friction and stuff because- It's so hard to change people's- This is a problem which humanity has had since the dawn of time. And we have so many problems with, even now, with people getting brainwashed into cults or religions, people believing things without any kind of reason just because they were told to, people wanting to believe there's something moral that other people are hiding stuff from them and they're the real truth knowledges or whatever do you mean like like it's it's a problem
Starting point is 00:43:49 that we have even in like the elections in the biggest country in the world that people just believe falsehoods and there's the government can't deal with it the school system can't deal with it in fact in many ways the school system uses it you know look at how patriotic the education systems are in countries you know in the uk even we don't learn about all the awful things some of the uk did yeah um but we're quite keen to talk about all the other things other countries did that were way worse right and it's kind of baked into you right like um so you're full of biases and things that are false and beliefs that are at least at least bent if not completely wrong and and try to identify them or at least dial them back in other people yeah it's as hard as getting them to quit smoking or or
Starting point is 00:44:31 drinking like you might want them to to lose weight but you telling them to do it is not going to do it and in fact i think it's the opposite i think that if you try to convince someone out of a conspiracy theory you're going to just dig them in deeper yeah right yeah and they had the only way to get anyone to do anything is to make them think it was their own idea right that's the only way like if you want to get someone to quit smoking you have to trick them into thinking it was their idea to quit smoking yeah you know if i want to get someone otherwise i'm not going to be their friend i've learned this over a long time like i can either be a friend of people or i can you know tell them what i really think it's it's in my experience it is like lewis said it is impossible to change people and the older people get the more locked into however they are
Starting point is 00:45:16 is i'm not saying it never happens but just in my experience it's really tough and what you have to what you have to boil it down to is that for you as a person and for your mental well-being and mental health and stuff, you need to realize that most interactions you have should be on your own terms and should end positively. You should be coming away from a social interaction with a loved one feeling angry drained upset you know what i mean like you really just need to get to the point where you're not around that person as much as hard as it is it's really impossible to change them like i sometimes read like the am i the assholes or whatever relationship because it pops up on the front page and i'm bored and doom's grinding my phone or whatever right but that's a different problem. But a lot of the time on there, there is people having these things where they're like, you know, my partner has like gained weight or my partner and I don't know how to tell them. But from the other side as well, it's like my partner has suddenly started calling me fat or saying they're being mean, like being mean to me and saying i should go to the gym like not even like calling him not not even like bad necessarily but saying like
Starting point is 00:46:28 saying like oh you know i me and my husband are having problems he started doing these things and you know and everyone in the comments is like break up with him he's toxic yes he's telling you these things right it's like it's like their first that that's all the comments are and i i kind of agree in some sense but also i in that you know your loved one should you know be loving you for who you are and not caring about any of this stuff but at the same time your loved ones are sometimes the only people who are willing to tell you the things that they think are going wrong with you right like and and they it's hard isn't it it's always your family who ends up becoming
Starting point is 00:47:06 the enemy for telling you stuff that and oftentimes they do it they tell you the wrong stuff too like they don't get me wrong like they'll tell you to have kids or you know they'll tell you that the things that you don't that are wrong or they'll tell you to believe in conspiracy theories like it goes the other way as well but i guess what i'm trying to say is like it's so tricky to to know how to even approach people that you love about this because you don't want to you don't want to you know you don't want to damage that relationship it's almost feels so fragile these days um especially if you're not married with you know if you're not settled and it's locked down yeah it almost feels like the internet's advice is to like have a zero tolerance on people being toxic to you um which as a result where's who's where's the motive the motivation has to come from inside it's like it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:47:55 there's a guy with bad breath in the office right how the fuck do i tell that guy that he's got bad you don't have to tell him yeah every time just accept that he has that he has bad breath and just do your best to stay away from him if it bothers you that much. Everybody feels like it's their responsibility to fix everything and it's not. Some things are just the way they are and it sucks to hear that sometimes your loved ones just don't measure up to what they need to be. You know what I mean mean you can spend your whole life trying to convince somebody otherwise or or whatever and in the end it's just not worth it because the only person that ends up uh falling is is you because you if you're if you're already like somewhat of a stable
Starting point is 00:48:38 person and you believe in things that you that you believe in and and and it's whatever you you shouldn't need to be dragged down, I don't think. You know what I mean? Like, it's not, I don't think it's anybody's responsibility to fix somebody else or sort somebody else out or whatever. Like, it's just, it's a waste of time and it just, it impacts so negatively on you in the long term as well.
Starting point is 00:49:01 You know what I mean? I think the answer actually, well, an answer is to work together with that person right like if if you work together with them but some some some people actually need professional help though they need therapy they need they need all sorts of stuff you know like if you can't you can't shoulder it all it's too much you like you've you've got your own own life to live you you can't be minding somebody as well you know what i mean like it's it's it's pretty straightforward stuff if you can though i think you can work together you can smoking together you can walk together you can go to the gym together you can you can make an effort to involve them but if if you try a couple of times
Starting point is 00:49:40 and it doesn't work then you you you can't just keep doing the same thing over and over and over and and winding up in the same dead end over and over and over i guess it depends how important is to you and i think when it comes to conspiracy theory nuts and people believing in that kind of stuff it doesn't feel as important if someone's literally been told that you know they're gonna die of a heart attack unless they stop eating meat yeah you know i mean these things then suddenly that's a wake-up call for them yes also for you for loved ones of them to help them and i think that you get you see these like interventions and stuff i feel like oh my god i if someone did an intervention on me i'd i'd resent them forever yeah i'm terrified of doing an intervention on someone because i think that would be like how do i make enemies for life i don't think it's the answer i think
Starting point is 00:50:23 if you if you if you want to help and the person that you want to help wants to be helped, then there's avenues for that. I don't think an intervention is really going to work, right? I don't know. I don't know. I've never done one. I don't know anyone who's been involved. I've never done one either, but I would never do one either.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I mean, if someone's's gonna kill themselves and their friends into and loved ones intervene and yeah you've got to stop i can see the positives to that sure um i don't know i mean if you look here's a topic if you've been involved in an intervention in some way i don't want i don't want this uh mailbag to get too heavy no but uh we could read a couple of stories and maybe think about it like we're generalizing a lot here as well obviously there's going to be very specific situations where absolutely you should intervene or whatever but i think when when dealing with somebody who's believing in conspiracy theories and and is with somebody who's enabling them and and stuff like that i just don't know if it's yeah
Starting point is 00:51:20 i know that in those circumstances i just don't just don't know if you get involved to that extent, because... Yeah. Here's some advice I've got. When it comes to my dad, and I have very, very different political views, like wildly different, to the point where I actually find his views offensive. And this could be a real problem actually at the dinner table or at family events. Well, he lives in Florida, so we don't see each other. And this could be a real problem actually at like the dinner table or like at family events. Well, he lives in Florida so we don't see each other.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Politics is one of those things that really kind of can like drive a wedge in a family. And has done as well. You hear about it a lot more and more now, right? It feels like this stuff doesn't really matter sometimes. It does not really. Ultimately it doesn't and it shouldn't really. But but you gotta you gotta consider as well if that if if that is enough to cause a big rift in your family it was gonna be that or something else right like it's if if if the if the piece is so fragile in the first place you know what i mean so here's what i do uh i just have a rule that we don't talk about politics yeah fair enough and if he if he starts bringing it up i'll just move on to something else yeah uh because it's just no point no like there is literally no point like you said you're not
Starting point is 00:52:29 going to change their mind uh it's it's just you know if it was if our relationship was a discord um like we would have a general chat channel i'd hang out in that channel yeah the the politics channel i would never go in and that's true on my discord i have a politics channel i just don't go in there no i keep all everyone wants to have those conversations go fucking have them i don't want any part of it because i'm going to read something that's going to annoy me and it's going to change my opinion of someone where i think how the fuck can they think like that yeah that's a that's really awful uh so i just avoid it yeah i think the problem with politics is it's actually way more fucking complicated than it seems on the surface and
Starting point is 00:53:06 it's so nuanced and fiddly and you're trying to predict the future and and and honestly you're powerless to change anything too right you're you're working with a lack of a complete lack of incomplete information sorry i know what you're working do you mean and it's like me and ben talked about this a lot and i think we we're kind of constantly, as humans on the earth, we're constantly made responsible for everything as if it's our fault. Yes. We have the vote. So we vote for this.
Starting point is 00:53:33 So it's our fault. Or we're not recycling enough. Or we're buying yogurt in plastic. So we're destroying the planet. Or we're leaving the heating on. Or we're using air cons. It's almost like it's our, everything's being put at our feet.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And if you let that get to you, you end up being like so fucking miserable all the time. Yeah. It's like, you know, it's so, you're so powerless. And yet we're made to feel like it's our,
Starting point is 00:53:58 like we are powerful and we can take control of our own destiny and we can change things, but we can't. And you're constantly told all these awful awful things that happen you can and there's obviously nothing you can do about them a lot of the time yeah sure you could go out and protest in Bristol and hold some placards up and you know march along with everyone
Starting point is 00:54:16 else if that's what you want to do yeah exactly and if that makes you feel better great you know but I think ignorance is bliss honestly when it comes to this I'd say in all things ignorance is bliss which is it comes to this i'd say in all things ignorance is bliss which is why i'm so happy i'm an idiot yeah i i as i've gotten older i've definitely gotten to a point where i'm like i just don't i just don't want it's just better if i don't know about this yeah i i i'm interested to to read about stuff like, you know, I like to learn and see what makes
Starting point is 00:54:47 people tick and stuff like that, but I don't want to get involved. You know, I don't want to have to convince somebody of a point that I'm making. I don't want to have to convince somebody that the earth is flat or not. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, I don't feel it's not my place to do it. Even when I do my research and I feel like I know everything about something, I still feel like I'm not smart enough to make a decision, right? I think, and as a result, like, I just feel like there's this,
Starting point is 00:55:17 that has led to me caring less about it, which means I learn less about it, which means I care less about it, which means my knowledge is kind of, yes, like you said, Sips, I'm'm interested in i'll watch a documentary or news or anything like anyone else right and be interested in it but but i also know deep in my heart i don't want to be in a big debate with somebody smarter people because i because my my default stance is is is not is so non-committal anyway i'm not you know i'm not i don't i don't agree with like racists and nazis and fascists and stuff like that obviously but um at the same time like i don't want to have a big debate with them i don't want to have a big debate with people on the other side
Starting point is 00:55:56 either you know what i mean like it's i think i'm old enough to realize that most people are just not going to really change their minds about certain things you know like i think if you've gone to the effort to start believing in the things that you believe in in the first place i i'm never going to in a million years be able to convince you otherwise like uh you know what i mean there's not going to be this big like uh you know epiphany moments where it's like holy shit yeah that's all i needed was for him to say this one thing and now i've completely changed my mind like i've never seen that happen before in my whole life and like i look at news tv at the moment they always have two opposing views on and all it's
Starting point is 00:56:36 doing is playing to the respective galleries yeah there's no one changing their mind anyone who's undecided isn't going to watch it and doesn't care yeah like it's you're literally just preaching to the two choirs. Yeah. And you just get the two sides to do that. It's just to get eyeballs on these things. So, when you have an argument with a friend or a loved one about politics, it's never going to end well. There's no point where you're both going to go, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:57 That was a really good chat. Thanks. And I've got lots to think about and so have you. I'm now working with just our opinions. No. Most of these conversations just end up being dictated by ego anyway, right? Because you've got an opinion that you're insecure about. And your friend has an opinion that they're pretty insecure about.
Starting point is 00:57:15 So, everybody's pride and everything gets in the way. And it's never going to end, like you said, with like, oh, thanks, Barry. Thanks for enlightening me. It's always going to be fuck you you have it in for me you've always been trying to destroy me um now i really think that the earth is flat as fucking hell and i want to punch you in the face as well and that's basically how every conversation or argument or debate goes right even since ancient greece we've had these great orators telling their you know convincing doing debating and standing up in the in the center and talking about what they believe in and trying to convince people and trying to change people's minds with, you know, convincing arguments. of fallacies and lies and no one has enough knowledge to be an expert on everything or even
Starting point is 00:58:08 know about everything like you know even as someone with a master's in chemistry you know my knowledge of chemistry is in such a tiny part of that pie chart right like i i'm not an an expert at all and a politician has to be an expert on everything from war to health care to educating kids to roads do you mean and we shift them around certainly in the uk it's like just a random guy suddenly oh one time he's secretary of the environment the next year he's in charge of the police and it's like you know it's it's these people have to have to try and be polymaths, but mostly they're just bungling along, making decisions which the newspapers, which one of these is going to play best. It's a juggling game of frustrating nonsense.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Most of them try to be polymaths, but they end up being polyworlds, the Pokemon. All right, let's move on. This will be the last one. Sorry, I am fascinated in that subject. So, sorry, I dragged it out. I am too, but I don't know. I don't want to come across as like cranky, old and uncaring and stuff. But I really do feel that you have to pick your battles.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Like some things are worth pursuing and other things are just absolutely not they will just waste all of your time and make you miserable so apologies if that means your relationship with your dad uh falters a little bit but um i think from for the sounds of it your mental health is suffering from having to worry about this stuff and i think uh like sip said you're not going to change his mind yeah um and i think my advice of just avoiding those topics as best you can yes when they when they bring it up just find things to do that are fun where you don't get engaged in that stuff go bowling or whatever and then if the topic comes up just say okay time to go home you know like it you just right you just have to like everything in life you gotta play people to their strengths
Starting point is 01:00:04 right and and And do the stuff that you know is safe and fun and that everybody can just get some good time out of. There's enough conversation. Talk about portage, talk about the bear story, you know, like there's enough shit to talk about, right? Okay, this is from Jacob. This will be the last one, I guess, because we're over an hour now. So, was just listening to episode 259 and you guys were talking about the battle of, and the fact that Google autofilled a weird response. It got me thinking of the fact that in recent weeks, a lot of my search results have had York tagged in them at the end for no real reason. At first, I thought this was really weird and random, but then I started
Starting point is 01:00:42 playing the new Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, and I realized that I presume from the results of the other searches that York was in fact TOTK, and people's keyboards had been auto-correcting the searches. So T-O-T-K, Tears of the Kingdom. Oh, I see, yeah. But people's keyboards are auto-correcting it to York. Yeah. I thought this was funny and thought you might get a chuckle out of it because it means Google's own auto-correct is messing up their search engine results.
Starting point is 01:01:07 This is something you see quite a lot. When you mistype something, Google knows what you mean because other people make the same typo a million times a day searching for the same thing. So I thought that was quite interesting. I do wonder how many search results, how many pages have been accidentally bumped up by the search um algorithm through typos the recent one where they changed they changed autocorrect on i think it was apple phones to not uh autocorrect to ducking hell i i can't tell you how many times that has annoyed me
Starting point is 01:01:37 you're you're trying to write fucking hell and and it autocorrects to ducking hell and it's so annoying like because normally if you use it if you're throwing a fucking hell in there, it's because you're kind of annoyed or, you know, you're passionate on the subject or whatever. And to have your time wasted by ducking hell is just too much. It's a life's too short. I think actually it's a decent percent. I think I'd say not more than about half or 1%, but I think it's still an amount. And the reason I'm saying that is because back in the day, in the back end of YouTube, we used to get a very good analytical feed of what people would type in to get to our videos, right? suggested tags and like yogs cast would be a tag but then and that would be like a tag of like you know 250 but then there would be like yog cat and that would be five right and then yogs yog cast would be another five yeah i mean so there would be like these tags would almost be in the most
Starting point is 01:02:38 searched for things that got to your channel right so i think there are there is a significant typo population that happens i don't really even type bother typing i i when i type into google i i expect it to also correct i think a lot of people do as well they just splodge it in i don't care um because you almost know that it's gonna auto fix right yeah yeah um so i wonder if if that- if Google being good at it has just led to it being worse, you know, more people making typos. I wonder, yeah. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:11 All right. Well, that's our mailbag this week. What a mailbag! I hope you guys enjoyed it. That was a really good one. Some fantastic emails. It was all over the place. Yeah, good emails.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It went- Lots of variety. It went deep, it went up in the sky, it went all around. It was nice. A good variety, like you said. I have one request, which would be quite often we get emails following up on things we talked about on the previous mailbag, which is great. Sometimes it gives us some clarity on things and adds details. Love that. But let's have some topics that we haven't talked about before. So,
Starting point is 01:03:42 if you've got something that we haven't mentioned, interesting stories or something fun or interesting that you've done or that you've heard about that we haven't talked about before. So if you've got something that we haven't mentioned, interesting stories or something fun or interesting that you've done or that you've heard about that we haven't talked about, go ahead and send it in and I'll see if... I filter through every email that you send to the mailbag. The ones I don't respond to, don't assume I don't like them. It's just that sometimes we've already had like five or six along the same lines this week. Or as I keep saying, sometimes the emails are too long. So I appreciate a TLDR, which some people do, but sometimes it's like four screens worth of text. I'm sorry. I love the fact you typed this email out. I hope you understand it. It's not going to get read out on the podcast, but thank you so much for sending them in. Maybe we could do like a special podcast
Starting point is 01:04:18 where we just read out one really long one. Oh my God. We could do that. But honestly, some of them, and the thing is, some of them them they're not written like an essay it's just a very rambling stream of consciousness i can imagine someone's up very late at night and they just thought i'm a fucking email trifles podcast they just start typing and they never stop that's that's what it looks like but yeah we've had some crackers lately so thank you all right appreciate it thanks have a good time p flex yes enjoy yourself yeah I'll be back next. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Cheers. Bye.

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