TRIGGERnometry - Comedian Ari Matti Destroys Triggernometry

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

Ari Matti is an Estonian comedian known for his energetic performances and sharp humour. He's a regular guest on the hugely popular Kill Tony. Follow Ari on X - x.com/AriMattiComedy SPONSOR. Shipstation. Go to https://shipstation.com and use code TRIGGER to sign up for your FREE trial. SPONSOR 👉 Listen to the NPR Politics Podcast for daily breakdowns of U.S. politics - wherever you get your podcasts. Join our exclusive TRIGGERnometry community on Substack! https://triggernometry.substack.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Shop Merch here - https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: [e-mail] Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media: https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry: Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. 00:00 Introduction 07:37 What Made You Come To America? 20:10 Doing Kill Tony 26:17 Comedy In New York 31:05 What Has Surprised You About American Culture? 43:07 Why Do You Think Americans Are So Conspiratorial? 45:27 Who Influenced Your Comedy? 46:17 Ari Wants A Black Girlfriend 54:43 What's The One Thing We're Not Talking About That We Really Should Be? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Clean your room. That's your arm biggest thing, right? Clean it. You're all right. There's only one who got. I'm alive. I'm alive. Yeah, I think he wants to get killed.

I'm my love. By the way, you have a dead face and you have a very British face. You literally look like something's wrong. Also look at my cute face. Also, look at my QFA. I don't know why when I do this. I want a black girl, sir. I can see why you can't get one, man.

This is not usually what this podcast is like. All right. All righty, welcome to the show. Welcome. So tell me, how does... I'm the dumbest guy you ever had on this podcast. 100%. I listened to...

Before I came here, I put on a random episode, a random moment, and then I heard, like, all kinds of words. We do use words here, Ari. Oh, you said like the ramifications of a... I was like, ramifications, I put it off. I was like, I don't know, shit. But anyway, it's a delight for you to... I love the way you're still trying.

It's a delight! We're not going to have the normal conversation, I think. I think this has been established. Ari, you're an Estonian comedian in America. Yes. How did that happen? Well, I know you guys are British. So you guys, like, do you guys defend, like British stand-up?

Defend? No. Are you the big British versus American stand-up guys? You know when you bring it up? We prefer American stand-up. However, so I don't know if you know this, the first time we went on Rogan, uh-huh. Joe gently inquired as to what we think about American stand-up versus British stand-up,

and Francis went, British comedians all shit. And I was like, there go, well, I was like, well, there are some good ones. Anyway, after that, we both got shit for his stupid comment. Yeah, 100%. Were you about to slag off British comedians? Is that what about to happen? No, it's like, well, like in Estonia, well, fucking stand-up comedy, I mean, started literally with me and three other guys.

So we're such a new art form. But is this a common assumption, like British end up, you know, did you guys get the art form from like sketch and theater culture? It's kind of more complicated that. So British stand-up comes from a multitude of different places. Ramifications. Right. No, it comes from different places.

So number one, there's the American. So you get the Lady Bruce, then the Richard Pryor and all of that stream. But also our stand-up comes from musical, which is a variety. So people would go in Victorian times and watch a juggler, they'd watch a mime artist, they'd watch a comedian who would do singing and dancing, which is actually where Charlie Chaplin came from.

Charlie Chaplin came from that musical. So it's a combination of all of them. Soviets have like Estrada. You know, the Estrade is. Same thing. It's like a whole program. And they would have like comedians in between, yeah, like musical performances and shit.

Yeah. But I just found like the, yeah, like you said, Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, all those guys. Just that like self-reflective storytelling, personality-based, not all witty and quippy. Sometimes I go to London and do gigs, and they're like, we don't have room for you. I'm like, can I replace one of the 13 guys doing witty observations? You know, I would watch a lineup and be like, oh, raw.

You know, I'm like. Well, the biggest difference, I think, between American stand-up and British stand-up is American stand-up is high-status and British stand-up as low-state. low status is someone who makes fun of themselves high status is someone who's cool and makes fun of the world well I don't know about that because British is a lot of British performers kind of their angle is

like I'm telling you how it is whereas American don't you find it's more of like we're all in this that's why the stay that's why the ceilings are always low in American clubs the stage is low like I'm amongst you fuck the government and fuck the other dance don't you find that yeah fuck the government is universal. Universal. That is true. You go to Mongolia and the comedians are everything about

fuck the government. There's a lot of... That'd be funny as a comedian to be like, you're all trashed, the government. Brilliant. So what was it like doing comedy in Estonia? Well, it's like, I would say, well, the reason I, like you asked previously was the reason I wanted to come to America was just because, like, I was, I would say career-wise, I was doing great, I love Estonia, my country and I love the language. That's where I grew up. So I relate to my own people the most, of course. I'm sure it's with you guys as well. If you do stand up back home, there's a different level. You can make reference. Oh, fucking. Benih Hill. You know, you can. Benih Hill, right? Yes. Ben Hill. Yeah. You can do shit like that, right? So you can relate, obviously.

But back home, I would say what we ran into is like, we're just fucking. six or seven guys. You would do a new tour every year because the audience is really small. It's kind of like an 18-Ber fringe format where you kind of have to build a new hour. And I would say in terms of my originality, I would kind of struck, you know,

when you start to become like caricature of yourself because there's not really like, because we're the first guys, we're the first ones at the well. So all the bits and all the, things would be like very, in America, there's just so many different voices, and it's such a deep history of stand-up. Like, even the audience now, I would say, is in meta.

Don't you find that? Like, they already know that it's fake, you know? They already know that you're not riffing, even though you kind of try to make it seem as if you are, you know? So it just creatively kind of felt stumped, maybe a little bit. And did you come straight to Austin, or did you go to New York first? I've been to New York, I've been to Seattle, I did a comedy competition. I lived a year in Vancouver, Canada, amazing comedy scene there.

That was awesome. I lived a year in Melbourne, Australia. Everywhere I could get a visa, basically, in performance. And Brexit kind of fucked me. Why did it fuck you? Because of visas, you know. So they didn't let you into Britain? I mean, of course, no, you can still go.

I mean, the whole border process you guys have is a nightmare. I mean, it all... Just come illegally. Yeah, they don't give a fuck. Fuck. But still like working, like getting a contract from a club with the European Union. It was all the easy. Yeah.

When do you guys go on holiday, you know, you have to be in a separate line now. Yeah. I'm not seeing that, dude. Because you guys used to ruin our line, dude. What do you mean we used to ruin our line? When we go to like Spain, we go to like fucking Deneerife, you know? The line was like fucking 80 fucking guys from Sussex. All right.

And you're all going to party. And now it's like three guys. me and a fucking Slovakian guy. And then you guys are in the other, the other. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It's true.

And every time you go on Facebook, there's always somebody who takes a photo and it was like, if it wasn't for the European, we were in the European Union, people voted to leave. And now I have this cute. Yeah. Yeah. So you've dotted around. And then what made you come to America? What made you pursue the American dream, Ari?

Well, creative. Creatively, it's just a level. It's super high in America. I would say the type of comedy that are like super diverse, you know. And there is like, yeah, just a level creatively, I just feel. The level of everything is higher here, don't you, time? Mm-hmm. Although, you know, there's some things that I'm not a fan of, you know.

Like what? Well, everybody drives here. Are you guys living in London? Yes. Don't you guys love a nice walk before a week? Yeah. There's no walking here, you know? Nothing more disrespected than a pedestrian in America.

No, literally, you'll be on a sidewalk, and it just, ends and then you're just and cars will honk and try to hit you like yeah it's great sometimes I'll walk just go for a walk late at night after a gig and cops will slow around and look at me like what am I up to?

Try to have a fucking walk you know but so that's what I kind of miss and I love a lot yeah you guys have subways there yeah I love that it's just a subway a walk going to the corner I do love that and history of course London is huge history in Austin you walk around they're like this is our oldest

1961. We have minus years in Estonia, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of... Well, that's very much a Texas thing, I think, because in New York, it's great walking city. Yeah. If you don't get attacked by the homeless people or drug addicts or whatever, it's a great place to walk around. I'm trying to think of the other things. Yeah. But in Austin, it feels like everyone used to get around on horseback and they just updated it to cars and you... Yeah, you got to have a... I don't have a driver's license.

Why not? I kind of missed it. Like, I missed a... What you mean he missed it? Like, I don't know, like... I feel like you're way too ADHD to drive. Do you know? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I do not trust... But I did drive when I was a kid, just illegally. Yeah. I just fucking... I feel like I am actually happy. I would not trust you with a truck.

You know what I mean? Oh, a big truck, yeah. I'll kill somebody. Yeah. You actually sound enthused by that, Ari. What's enthused? Stop using long words, he told you he's dumb. It means you, it sounds like you'd enjoy that.

Yeah. Killing somebody? Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. So you dotted around. You then, because you came to America, but you came to New York first, didn't you?

Yeah, I was New York because of the scene and the city, of course. But then I lost so much money per month that... New York expensive, bro. But it's insane that no matter how much money I've made throughout my career, as soon as I land in New York, I'm poor. Like, it's insane. You take the cab ride from JFK to the downtown. It's like 160.

I'm never even seen that number. Yeah, it's crazy. It's so expensive. I don't even know what people are doing there. A studio, I had a studio apartment, Airbnb. It was like $4,400. you don't have a washing machine, you don't have a second floor, you're just under people and it was like in a basement with a whole family on top of you.

Like, everybody's like, New York's amazing. Is it? It's amazing if you're super rich. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Which none of us are. Yeah. I mean, there's five bedrooms in this house. Yeah. But we don't own it, Ari. Yeah, well, there's Lab Mike, so you're not that rich, I guess.

Yeah, Ari, he was shocked by. these lavalier mics he's used to the big podcasting because everyone copies Joe Rogan yeah yeah thinks you need if you want if you're gonna do a podcast you need a massive microphone yeah and I feel so bare I feel like we're naked no you just I don't like the I don't like the facial expression with which you said the word naked yeah it bothers me you've got the look of a man who loves a sauna rari every day a sauna every day naked every day and I love it I need it I want it You guys don't sauna? Yeah, do so on them, but not naked.

No. No. I'd love to see someone walk into a British sauna naked. That would be a great scene. Yeah, that's me. You know, yeah, there's actually a sauna. We've actually got a sauna in this house. That's how, that's how well we're living, Rory.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. It's in his shower, but it's still a sauna. Oh, really? Yeah. It's like a tiny one, yeah? Yeah.

Is the, yeah, the, okay. I resent the word tiny, but yes, it's a... It is tiny, especially if it's cold. Yeah. And all four of you just go in there and just fucking... Yeah, that's where we have our meetings. It's like, I love it. Yeah. See, Russian people don't like gay stuff. No, no. You see how he started?

Did you notice that? These guys are having a great time. This guy is not so much. What about Estanians? The Estanians like gay stuff? Yeah. You love it? Yeah, I need it. It's funny. You know who don't like gay stuff? Who? Russians and black people. Really?

You ever grab a black guy's ass cheek? I've never thought of a little cupcake. No. Give it a little smooch. And what happens if you did that? They just get angry and I love that. Harry, you're going to get shot one day, you know that. Probably, yeah.

Yeah. Squeeze that little mud. Have you made their butt out? You do know you're in Texas, Ari. I know, it's crazy. There are guns here, my friend. You can't just go around grabbing black people's asses. I know, that's another thing.

It's controversial statement. Yeah, it is. When I said that, I just went, we've had Jordan Peterson on the show. Yeah. No, before we started... That's Jordan Peterson, right? Clean it. You're going to help me more.

You can judge me. I would be honest with you. That is not the best impression of Jordan Peterson I've ever heard, but it's the funniest. It is my favorite impression. Not the best, but the funniest. He's been to Estonia, and I met him to. Has he? You man?

He's daughter to. The Latinx don't pick it up. No. Okay. I was on tour with Jordan last year. Really? Yeah. Oh, like open or whatever?

Yeah, I was open for him. Did you do like jokes? I did, yeah. So you were like buried him? Because he doesn't do jokes, right? I buried him. What do you mean I buried him? Hasn't been in America long enough.

It's like when you do so good that someone can't follow you. It's like a stand-up term. Oh, I see, I see, I see. I see. I see what you mean. It's comedian. No, I didn't, he's actually very funny. He doesn't realize he's funny.

He was crushing. What he does is, the biggest frustration I have with Jordan is he talks over his own punchlines. So he will say something really funny and people will start laughing and goes, no, no, I'm being deadly serious. And Jordan, just let them laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you met him? Yeah. So you're a fan? Super nice. Yeah. He did kill Tony. He was super funny. And he has those awesome suits.

His suit guy actually contacted me. I think he's like an Estonian dad. I think so. You know the awesome suits that he is? Yeah. He looks like a fucking villain. Yeah, Demetian. We've had him on the show.

Lex Friedman. He made this. This is made by him. Oh, see, that's the guy. That's in Estonia. Yeah. Yeah. I know.

I know. Oh. Look good. Feel good. Yeah. Yeah. He made a bunch of stuff for me. Beautiful.

So you should. You should. Dmitri. Jordan Peters and Elon Musk Lex Friedman, they all have this villain vibe, don't they? They're gonna do some... I don't know, like Jordan, Lex, Lex doesn't have a villain vibe, does he? Lex is just autistic, isn't he? I guess so.

I hope that's official because he just looks autistic and sounds autistic and acts autistic. Yeah, and is autistic. Yeah. So is Elon? So you just don't like autistic people? No, they're villains. Like, they're up to something. They're up to something.

Yeah, what do you think they're up to? I don't know. How did Lex Friedman get rich? I assumed it was his podcast, which there's big numbers. Yeah. I read something, I read it. Tell me more. The Russian government.

Do you trust him? Do I trust who? Me? Russian government, no. Do I trust the Russian government? No, I don't trust the Russian government. Do you know, it has become absolutely fine to say shit like that about Russians? It is.

Thank God. I've been waiting here. You know, we call you guys onions in Estonia. Onions? Onions. What is that? And it was like the N-word. Because we make you cry?

No, because you guys moved to our country. And then you would sell onions. Oh. I've never sold onions in Estonia. We call you onions. And it was like, the N-word for Russians. And now after you guys started the whole thing, we can just let it fly. And it feels like with us.

You're happy. How do people in Estonia feel about what's going on? What do you think? Excited? Looking forward to joining the Commonwealth? No, we hear it. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it, to see the way Americans talk about Putin?

Yeah, it's very surprising, yeah, like that you guys are, well, you guys, right? No, they're like super-power. But that's intense, yeah, people in Austin are. Yeah, I haven't been, New York, maybe it's a more Ukrainian, Because you see the flags when you walk around. But it is interesting, yeah. No, but in Austin it's weird because a lot of people here just openly pro-putin. Yeah, and they're like, well, what did Ukraine do?

And I'm like, just be a sovereign country. Yeah, it's crazy that they side with somebody who's invading other country. And I know there's a bigger picture, politics, NATO, I know there's all this. But overall, Russia has a pretty bad rap, I would say. You think we're next? Do you think, well... Do you think you're next? I hope not.

This time now. Although, I don't know a lot about visas, but... If Estonia gets invaded and I'm here, refugee visa? It's good you're thinking of the bigger picture, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's good, man. I think so, right?

Yeah. Yeah. But you don't need a refugee visa. You're crushing you. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Or they call me back to war. You fucking... I wouldn't want you in my army. No, mate. Fuck, no, dude. I'm going to shoot you.

Yourself. Yeah, exactly. And did. But you're going to do it by accident, which is the worst thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll transition if war happens. Would you? Yeah.

It's wear a skirt, hang out with the girls, wait for the men to get back home. I'll have a tissue. I'll wave at you like this. Okay, boys. I mean, that's not, I think, do you know what? You're not going to be the only one that does that. Oh, yeah. Is everyone from this thing?

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Only theaters May 15th, with special engagements in Dolby. So you've been here a while, and you went to New York, you had a couple of since in New York, and then you did Kill Tony. Mm-hmm. And that's what, when everything went, wow. Yeah, it was pretty quick, yeah. I mean, Kill Tony is such a big, even when I did it a year ago, and even now, it's like such, it just keeps getting bigger and bigger, so, yeah, it's good to be a part of that.

I mean, it's hard writing a new minute. every week, of course, there's some challenges to it. But it's awesome to be a part of, I kind of like had to, kind of got a shortcut, you know. Although, I mean, I've been doing it for 13 years as an open micro grinding, so I guess it's not, you know, I paid my dues, but it is a good way to get into the American stand-up.

It's like super easy. It's like the Johnny Carson's show, something like that, you know. Yeah, but you've still got to make the impact. There's loads of people. There's people who go on Kill Tony and are actually very good and do a great one-minute set, but for whatever reason, it doesn't pop like the way you popped. Yeah, it's that interesting thing with stand-up is like you can't quite explain it on paper. Because, yeah, sometimes, but how many times will you see a guy who crushes it on stage altogether?

You see him fucking crush a 15-minute set, but then doesn't quite move into that premier ticket-selling thing. It's just, I think it's like there's so many stand-up comedians who are amazing right now. You need to have something, just that weird, whatever people connect with, you know, that X-Factor, whatever the fuck they call it, you know. So it's just, I think being funny, like being funny on stage can often be a very formulaic thing that you can kind of figure. I think everyone has a five-minute set. Yeah. Everyone has a fine-minute. Everyone has had enough perspective and things happen to their life that they can make five minutes about their own life funny.

Yeah. But to have that extra extra, that's like, I think being. funny is sometimes easier than being interesting, you know, like, not often. I mean, but sometimes you watch a guy and I'm like, yeah, he's funny, but is it like, it's like, yeah, you said like Theo one, you know, it's like, it's just a fucking, there's only one Theo one, you know, you couldn't put it on paper, but there's a lot of guys, very formulaic, I guess. Yeah. So Kill Tony really emphasizes that of like what's, that's why the interview portion is so important, too. It's like, what's the thing about you?

What's crazy about it? What's interesting, you know? So what was the first time like when you were on there? Luckily, luckily, I did a spot. I got on Kiltow, not it from the bucket even. I just did a spot at the little boy next door. And I went straight on Kilton maybe 20 minutes later. And I was auditioning at the mothership.

So I already had so big of an adrenaline drum dump. And the upside for me, I was a, I wasn't, I knew, Kiltow. If you know, if you're a comedian, you're all killed home. You know the format. I know the interview. I know Don't Inchgriff. I know Brian Redman. Of course, I know that. But I didn't quite know how big of a thing it is. So I didn't really know to be that nervous, I would say.

And then I did it a couple of times and it started getting bigger and bigger. So I think that was the upside. I think a lot of people who are in that alley when they sign up, they put a lot of pressure on themselves. And one minute is hard. You know, it's just like, like my style is, you know, I'm a very physical comedian. I don't really, to be honest, I don't really have jokes. I just, it's the way I do it. That's funny.

So I kind of had to rewrite my style to, which is a fun challenge. Like for the first time, I'm actually writing anecdotal jokes with a setup, left turn punchline, because I can't just do it. Like, I can't do this for a minute and it doesn't hit, you know. Yeah. So that's the fun side, I would say. Because, and it must have been weird, though, Ari, because you were, like you said, you were grinding for 13 years,

you go on to kill Tony, and then bam. Yeah. Was it like that? About four or five-month period, I would say, that it started going, yeah. But especially in Austin, you know, everybody, the mothership is such a huge cultural place here and kill Tony as well.

So here it's pretty crazy. Everybody knows me here, which is nice, you know, you feel at home. Is that, it is nice? Is it weird? though, on some level when you're so used to grinding that when it finally happens, you go, I can't actually believe this is working. Yeah, I mean, it is, yeah, yeah. And sometimes you kind of forget, like, yeah, you kind of forget that you have maybe

not a responsibility, but something, you know, people will listen to you in a different way or treat you differently, kind of, you know, whereas when you're killing in the oblivion, It's kind of, it's a safety zone. It's a safety zone. But I try not to lose that. Like, I still, I still do love that feeling of like, but then you go to New York. Like, when you do gigs in New York, see, that's different

because it's such a melting pot. There's no way that you're going to have mostly killed Tony fans in a room. When I do New York, it's about of eight. If I drop into a club, it's 80 people. I say 80 people, three of them will know who I am. The rest of the minute from Norway or some shit, you know. And it's, so you kind of feel, it kind of reality checks you, you know. I go on, I do this shit.

And it's not hitting it. I'm like, oh, I forgot what it feels like to introduce yourself to a crowd a little bit. You guys tour as well, right, but stand up and shit? Francis does. I do. Yeah, yeah. So when you, it's kind of the same thing, you know, when you do your own fans. Yeah.

Oh, it's totally different. Yeah, yeah. You kind of feel that comfort. But having that comfort is important, too, I think. I think being always desperate to prove yourself can, kind of limit yourself creatively because you'll always feel like, yeah, you have to prove yourself, so you have to get to that laugh, where sometimes bits that are bigger in picture and maybe a bit more unique to yourself come when you're in the comfort of being yourself.

So there's a balance. You have to feel comfortable still, I think, to some extent. Yeah, and it's also, I love New York for stand-up because it is the most cutthroat place in the world. God, throw this. And there's so many different audience. You literally do a room with the same bits and then go fucking from Brooklyn to Manhattan

and it's a whole different ballgame. Different types of people, different types of economic levels, different class, different races, different backgrounds. Yeah, it's very hard. It's why with Austin, and I love Austin, but it's kind of the same room time after time. Well, of course, with variations. But a lot of the time.

For sure. Like if you open up with faggot, standing go. That is so true. If you go, what's up fagots? Hell, yeah! And then retard? Oh, you have to. I think it's in the contract.

At the mothership, you have to have two retards and a faggot in yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to bring the N-world back, too. How's that going? Do you do that before or after you grab the ass? I do say that. I do say that I earn a world on the States sometimes, but in Estonia.

In Estonia only? Yeah. Yeah, Estonia's not have a problem with it. Yeah, because we don't have it. So it can be racist. That's... It can be racist over an ocean if I yelled the N-Word. I guess logically it makes sense.

Yeah, and there's no like hatred involved in... Yeah, Estonia is also very... very like we've never had any sort of cancer. Like our culture is not even, I mean, you know, we got liberated from... I broke it, I broke it, I'm sure. We got, we got liberated from... My voice. And then what happened?

And after that, you don't have cancel culture, is that way you're right? In 1992, so our, so everything's so fresh, We're not there yet where we're canceling or thinking about trans people or... Really? You don't have trans flags everywhere? No, we're not there yet. We're literally hitting women still.

We're working on it. You're trying to get to that point. Yeah, we have three trans people. Right now you're hitting women. Yeah. And then you're trying to get to the point where you're hidden trans people. Trans women.

Yeah, we're not even worried about them yet. The regular women are getting hit right now. So... It's a journey. But there's no hatred involved in racism or nothing in Estonia, you know. So that's why Estonian's always like, why can't I say the N-Words? It's funny. Every, every, if you're a black guy, you go to Estonian, within three days,

you'll end up with a discussion in a sauna with a guy, with an old Estonian guy trying to tell you why he can't call you the N-word to your face. It doesn't sound that appealing if I were a black guy. I end up... There's no hatred. He's literally... No, that... It's not hatred.

You're naked. He's asking you. You're asking you why he kind of is inward and pinching your wrist. Yeah, it's, well, it's just a difference of culture, isn't it? If you're not aware of something. Yeah. That's it. It's kind of, because people see Estonians as white, they go, oh, you influence by Western Europe.

When the reality is you're more influenced by the East than you are the West. Eastern Europe, Russia, et cetera. So you have different, you just see the world in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I would say my generation. Yeah, because when the collapsed... Thank you for not breaking our lights time.

Yeah. Yeah, when the Soviet Union collapsed. When it collapsed, you know, there's a huge generational difference too. It's like, like you said, that the generation before me super influenced by the East, by the Russian media, Martian cartoons, and then all of a sudden, when it all came down, I'm fully, like my generation is South Park, Chappelle show, all that shit. So there's a huge contrast, you know. Like my generation obviously knows cultural impacts of fucking trans people inward,

LGBT movements, all that, because we're so Western. But then there's the previous generation that has no idea of that at all. So it is interesting. See, that's why Estonian stand-up is also thriving, I think, because there's all this maybe generational difference and tension that is funny, you know, to highlight. Yeah. And to have a perspective on.

That's why I think the art form really thrives in Eastern Europe right now. Just because there is that tension that is the needs released, you know. So with you being aware of American culture, what have been the biggest surprises to you? What's so different about being here as opposed to where you come from? Well, I kind of, I mean, I kind of knew how to expect the, I knew what to expect, from, yeah, just growing up around the multimedia of America. But, yeah, I'd say the pedestrian thing, right? Oh, and politics, too.

It is crazy how political, like an average American guy is, you know. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's my Europeanness or something, but it's not like, of course we care about the war and all that. That's a huge thing in our media right now. But I would say in our personal life, like we don't really, like, you know, they put a sign out, like, who you're voting for. Yeah. That's a lot, isn't it?

Yeah. No, I agree. That's a lot, huh? Yeah. Like, it's your poem. Why would you create this, like, a fucking statement? Like, how does that affect your life that much? You know what I'm saying?

Like, your personal life. You know, so they are very political. And I've been in green rules where things get a bit. Oh. You know, you're like, Jesus. Things get heated. Yeah, things get heated, yeah. Because people argue about politics.

Yeah, people get super into it. I don't know. Are British people like that? I don't know. We're becoming like that. Yeah, but we still don't put the signs in our front garden. What's the thing in Britain right now? I mean, Brexit is over.

You guys already fucked that out. Yeah. What's now? What's that? Oh, it's immigration, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's big. Yeah, we don't want any more.

you. No, I think I'm the problem. You think me. I'm a la. I think there's a different thing. You don't think this guy's the problem either? Beauty, matutie.

He's pointing in a blonde employee. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Immigration. Also, we're locking up people for shit they say online.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's another thing. That's like the Commonwealth thing. It was like Canada, the UK and Australia. Yeah. We love that shit. We love it, man. We love it.

If you say... What's up with that? It's a good question. We're cool. So do we? No. It's because we've gone more and more down this. Like, we want to be looked after by the government.

Protected. We want safety. We want to. But most people do. And if you want safety, you're going to want safety from everything, which includes words and jokes and whatever else. But actually, it's kind of weak. For sure, yeah.

So what's the common consensus? There is no common consensus. Ah, that's that. Like here, I mean, like you go around, one house is Trump sign, another house of Harris sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very split, very split down the middle, very divided. Yeah, very divided.

Do you find that here as well? It's very divided. Yeah, it depends on who I'm talking to, I would say. But what do you guys think? It's like, you know, they always say that division is what the lizards are trying to make it happen. Do you think that's true that someone's trying to make us divided? Or it's just a natural thing that's happening? The lizards.

The lizards. He's talking about the illusion. the people who are in charge. Yeah, yeah, do you think it's something like that? You even doing because a lot of Americans, because a lot of Americans do think there are like... But Americans, have you noticed this? Americans fucking love conspiracy theories.

Great point. That's also crazy how, like, I'll riff with somebody thinking it's all funny, Google. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, look at the cloud in 9-11, there's a face, and you're like, oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. Americans love, I have a theory about this. about this. So America, if you think about America, it's all, first of all, all the people who came here were kind of, you know, out there. They were not in the middle of the

they were pretty out. By the way, you have a dead face and you have a very British face. I have a Russian face. Yeah, very Russian. It's crazy. You literally look like something wrong. He's like a, like a Benny Hill, we're all having a good time and you're just telling me. Okay, keep going, sorry, with your dead face. my great theory. No, you have a great thing. No, look, seriously. Americans, first of all, all the people who came here were a little bit crazy.

Yeah. And in a good way and in a bad way, the good way in which they were crazy is they were like, anything's possible, we go to this new place, we start our own thing, blah, blah, blah, blah. So if you think anything's possible, then you think anything's possible. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. But you have noticed this as well. Americans fucking love conspiracy.

Love conspiracy theory. And they really like, they don't just, they're not like, hey, that would be an interesting if that happened. They're like, this happened. And it happened. And like, then my favorite is when two conspiracy theorists meet, they never agree. Conspiracy theories never agree. They always, like, one guy's like, oh, like Putin affected the US fucking election. Ukraine is in real.

And then the other guy's like, well, Ukraine has never been real. And I'm like, oh, my God. You know, it's like, there's a lot of, yeah, theories. and everything has like a crazy theory. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, nothing rational. It has to be either lizards, aliens, or nothing else.

No, no, you've missed out the third one. Black people? No. Oh. The Jews. They love the fucking Jews. How do British people about the Jews? thought about the Jews till I came here.

I literally never even... We don't have Jews. Yeah, the Germans took care of them. Oh yeah, there's 70 of them. By the way, we took care of them before they got them. That's true. You were kind of... We didn't want to start off on the wrong foot.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the Baltic people, they were kind of, you know... A lot of people go like, oh yeah, you were a pro-Nazi. We didn't really have a choice. You have a tank. Yeah. It's not a very good excuse. It is.

You have a tank. I'll do what I need. You have a tank. Yeah, but you just said yourself, you handled it before. Yeah, because you're coming. What do you mean you? I'm not fucking German. So you were like, the Germans are coming.

Yeah. Let's take care of the Jews. Yeah. And nothing really changed when the Germans came. I mean, it did for the Jews, sorry. Passion got better. Then they hated books. We didn't know how to read, so.

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Like the division. Yeah. Do you think it's like a... It's just human nature, man. Yeah, right? Humans are tribal. Red team, blue team, you know, fascist. See, that's why it's the, you know, I am of course super, I would say emotionally kind of, not super, but kind of involved in the Russia-Ukraine conflict. But it is kind of a bummer that meanwhile this conflict's happening.

You know there's like news all the time, like Syria, another 100,000. Just like, you know, there's always like that. But it's only because we're tribal. And if I look at, if you look at Russian-Ukrainian news, you know, the houses that they're blowing up, you look at the kitchen, the fucking, the furniture they have. It's so similar. It's literally the same thing that I grew up with. So there's that empathy because it's like, oh, it's like I'm being attacked.

You're watching footage from Syria. It's like a hot near a desert. You know, so it is that sadness. Yeah, we are very tribal, huh? It's kind of a bummer. Because isn't there like genocide happening? happening in Congo, Somalia and Syria and whatever. But we're just white people being like,

you're not on Facebook, you know. But if you're on TikTok, like, that is the craziest thing that Russia and Ukraine, I think it's the first conflict that I've seen on TikTok. There's like soldiers like and subscribe. Literally, there's like you can subscribe to Ukrainian soldiers where you're just talking. Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I follow you. You follow a few Ukraine? There's like footage in the trenches. They put those cameras. Have you seen those trenches? Yeah. And it's some old Russian bastard. You know who they're sending to the front line.

It ain't the fucking... Yeah. Have you seen those people? It's all like, oh, guys with a fucking... On a multi-action rifle from the museum. And he's in a trench. Lange, Marrottin. They just get shot by this Ukrainian guy with an M-4.

And he's like, like and subscribe. It's crazy, huh? Yeah, I mean, it is. And I think the other thing is, well, a lot of... people have talked about this is algorithms, you know. We all get stuff fed to us. You're going to get fed pro-Ukraine stuff because that's the stuff that you engage with. Exactly. You know, whereas some people like in Austin, they'd get fed pro-Russia stuff. Yeah. Isn't it crazy that every opinion you have right now, you can get 100% validation as soon as you want it? Exactly. Everything

you think is 100% correct. Yes. And there's facts and articles and anything you are. Anything you Anything you want. Yeah. I have a lizard's penis. Internet will be like, you've always had a lizard's penis, you fuck. And you're like, okay. Back to the lizards already. You like lizards?

I don't know about that. Do you think they're in charge? Have you spent enough time in Austin now that you... Do you believe in conspiracy? No. No. I don't get it at all. Me neither.

Like, at all. I mean, but there are conspiracies that are true, of course, like governmentally, you know? Yeah. You know, guys know, like, what, Molot of Rip and Drop was? Yes. Yeah. Remember that? That was, like, a proven conspiracy.

That's like a 70-year conspiracy that's proven later came out. That's, like, an interesting one. But, yeah, if you're, like, high world society or whatever. The fuck. Why do you think it's weird? Because that's interesting. Why do you think it's strange that they believe in this? Like Americans?

Yeah, Americans, yeah. Americans, yeah. Why? A cup of tea. I love British accents. What do you mean? Why do you think they believe in it? Maybe it's like the...

Well, life has been pretty comfortable here, especially in America. So I think you start wondering bigger picture things when you have time to wonder bigger picture things, you know? Like what's the... And I think America, and I think America, think Americans also have maybe an egotistical approach to like I kind of know what's up. Yeah. Like I kind of, I got it all figured out, you know, which is hilarious. That's what makes them so fucking funny.

You ever watch Kurt Metzker? No, you know, the favorite guy to talk to. Yeah. I ask Kurt. I get, I don't use Google, I use Kurt. I mean, I ask, you can ask Kurt anything and you'll have a fully 100% convinced answer from him. I love Kurt. I love Kurt. One of the funniest guys ever.

I think he's a brilliant comedian bordering on genus. Yeah. I don't always think Kurt's opinions are correct, though, Ari. Yeah, but that's funny. Isn't that funny? Like, I love watching him on stage just being like, oh, you don't know that?

You know, and you're like, only America can create that sort of thing, I think. Yeah. I think that's fucking hilarious. Like, I love everyone who is really convinced in something that they believe in, I want that. You want that?

Yeah, give it to me. Why are you not like that? Because I don't know shit, dude. I don't know shit, but if I meet you in a cafe, or like if I'm in a cafe, I'm writing by myself and then overhear you're saying openly that you're a Nazi, I want you on my stage as soon as possible. Because I want to hear more, you know.

It's interesting. Don't you think? Why are you pointing at me? Mr. Deadface Russian. It's so different. Smiles and giggles. It's not over. Hello.

Hello. So we're talking about you what you love in comedy. Who are your comedy influences are? Everyone black. Okay. I love black people. You've made up very clear. I love black people.

They're so funny, charismatic. And like... So, like, who, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle? Eddie Murphy as a kid. Yeah. Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock. From the white guys, Louis C.K. Bilber, fucking, I can't think of anything. Just black guys, really. You threw in those two white guys just to not look racist.

Yeah, just not to look racist. Yeah. There is something to be said, actually. Like, you... About black guys? Yeah, about black guys. Go on. Go, go, go. Say it. I'm just going to slide out. What are you talking about? If anyone's going to get the flack, it's going to be in. Well, yeah. He did several Nazi salutes. What did you just ask? You guys ever fuck a black girl? I wouldn't put it in quite those coarse terms, Ari, but yes, I have. Like British black or?

American black. Oh, holy shit. You guys? I mean, you know that. Why do you want a lot? I want a black girl, then. I can see why you can't get one, mate. Why?

I don't know. I love it, I think. So you can pinch her ass as well. No, they do bossy. Yeah, bossy. I want like a black girl. just to treat me like, shit. Why?

Shut the fuck up with your faggy ass. You know, I want that shit. I want you to call me a faggot while we're having sex. What you're faggy ass? I'm sure there's quite a lot of people happily do that with you. You know, you were telling me the other day that you find it difficult to get dates.

I know when we're in a green one. What? You found the, you two told me you were finding it difficult to get dates in our office. Oh, dates? Yeah, dags. I was like, am I fucking, what's when we snatched? Dates.

But now. that I know you would just you just you've just got your thing yeah Latinos too have you oh Texas has amazing Latinos yeah yeah I'll do his mom is Latino so really yes that you she's like 80 years old you fucking I don't even know what the right word is mom yeah my mom's about 78 79 Latino still biting, still hot, still fucking... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, so, your dad's a dog, huh?

Kind of like a Latino, sweet-ass punan-ne. Yeah, he got a Latino woman in 19, what, 177. That's crazy. You know, that must have been the coolest guy on the block, huh? I think she just wanted a British passport, Ari. You got to do what you get and did. You know? Damn.

My dad was from a place called Wigan. You know Wigan? I don't think you can say that. I think you can say it. Change off the letters a little bit, huh? But yeah, so no, no. Yeah, my mom, yeah. My dad dated my mom in the 70s. Wow.

That must be great. Where's she from? Venezuela. Oh. Wow. So you're looking for a black or Latino girl to dominate you. Yeah. To treat me like shit.

This is not usually what this podcast is like. No, no. I bet it's like super political. Super political. Yeah. Yeah. And super like a lot of science and shit, huh? Not so much.

The dinosaurs. Don't talk so much about the dinosaurs. I mean, we've got probably the world's most famous evolutionary biologists on to talk about dinosaurs a bit. Oh, yeah? Yeah. The Grasthyson or who is it? I mean, we've had Neil deGrasse Tyson. Really?

Yeah, I destroyed them. I'm probably the dumbest guy that's been on here. You are. Undoubtedly. Undoubtedly. Neil de Grasthison had an argument with us about trans women. Oh, is he like... He's like... He does like it. He loves a bit of trans. He's fully retarded when it comes to the issue. He's super smart about everything else, completely retarded

about trans. Really? Yeah, there's like a clip on our channel of us arguing with him for like 10. And you don't like trans? There's not that we don't like trans, but we don't think you can just, like, I'm a woman now. Yeah. Would you date a trans woman, are you? Yeah. Oh, fuck, dude. It's Pussy, pussy. Well, I mean, this is where the argument is. That's what the argument's about. Let's be honest. Hey, when trans...

Stop looking at him. When are you... Go on. No, go on, go on. Don't do that. You insulted everyone else. We were talking with comedians. When you eat trans pussy, does it taste like dick?

I honestly don't have to answer that question, right? It's not a never... Have you been to Thailand? British people love Thailand. They do. No, I've never been to Thailand. Me neither than times. You've been to have several times.

Do you have fun? I don't have fun. Okay. They are beautiful. Who? Everybody? See, I think like American trans, it's a rough transition. Look at Caitlin General.

He's a millionaire. So much money. So much money and still pretty like that. Yeah. But a Thai guy to a Thai lady, the transition is literally like a... They're so smooth. Have you felt their skin?

No. We haven't been that. Tell us about their skin. It's amazing. Yeah, I didn't do nothing because I'm a pussy. I'm just too fucking in my old-fashioned Eastern European ways. I don't know. Some of your boys... I've seen the way. Yeah. Yeah, I was the old friend who went there and he did just start doing cocaine and disappeared into Bangkok for like 72 hours. He came back. He was weird for a year. year.

He saw a lot in those. He was weird for like a year and we're like, what's the year? And then he was like, yeah, he's like, and then you have to go to therapy and shit. That kind of means you're gay, huh? If you have problems with bang you, dude. Like if you're later like, oh my God, what happened?

Wait, if you banged the dude. And felt nothing? You're straight. If you banged the dude and felt nothing. He looks like a lady. That's how straight I am. Like, if you put a wig on, I can fuck you

and believe the fantasy. I assure you that is never going to happen. That's how straight I am. See, Russian guys. Like, happy people and people. Hey, when you do it. Like, me and him could film a sketch where we both have wigs on and we make out, and we're like,

it's the art, you know? Yeah, you commit to the part. Yeah, but you and him probably have sex as well. Yeah, but you commit to the part. Exactly. And how else are you going to get the part unless you have sex with someone's on the part? All I was questioning was the idea that if you have sex with a dude

didn't feel nothing. If you go to prison, you're not going to fuck a dude in a wig. I will, because I'm that straight. The logic of that checks out. Exactly. Believe the fantasy. But British dudes, yeah, I remember there was this one, because I did comedy in Bangkok for like, after my visa ran Lel in Australia, live in Bangkok and then tour Southeast Asia. And I met this lady boy who by the, during the day, shaved head. I mean the nails, the makeup, and the skin still smooth, but just shaved head, just like a guy smoking a cigarette on her corner, and by night, 10 out of 10. And then she would tell me these crazy stories about that they would always, she would work at the bar. And then there's like a group of 12 British lads, the boys, you know, with a bin-tang shirt, you know, bin-tank, that beer, you know, with the fucking, with a neon-colored, you know, the wife Peter.

Yeah. What do you guys call that? Yeah, it's a wife, Peter. Yeah. They're all laughing and have a great time. Like, oh, look at these lady boys. And then they leave. And there's always one guy who would have like a, you're like,

and then he comes back like 4 a.m. alone. Yeah. You'd be that guy. Yeah. Experimental. Yeah. Open mind. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this Ukraine belongs to me. It used to be ours. It needs to be ours again.

Ari, I dread asking you this question, but we always end the interview with the same question. What's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be? Before Ari answers a final question, at the end of the interview, make sure to head over to our substack. The link is in the description where you're going to see this lunacy. I love it. Like, fucking hidden. Okay.

Well, now the internet knows what you're looking for. It's good. And it will provide. Right. Don't worry about it, mommy dance. What's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be? Anything serious. Or not serious.

Oh, I'm not serious. You know, at this point, I have to say I don't think it will be serious. What should have we discussed? We talked about banging dudes. Yes, we did. Grabbing asses of black people. Yes. We did talk about that.

They don't like that. They hate it. It's crazy. What do you guys think? What do you guys think? I told you, I didn't think this was the right question to us. I think he's got something. What didn't we talk about?

No, no, what's the one thing that we should be talking about? Oh my God. So there you go. There you go. Okay, what do you guys think, Ukraine, Russia? You guys are smart? Yeah. Whatever you guys think, I'll run from, I'll run with that opinion to the rest of my life.

That's what we should be talking about. Yeah, which side? Who's correct? Ukraine is in the right. Yeah, right? Yeah, absolutely. It's a difficult conflict because there's same alphabet, same like, you know, like if you were in a dictionary. Alphabet is not exactly the same way.

Not exactly. Yeah, there's some letters that are. Yeah, the Ukrainians use a few Western letters, like I. Oh, I know. Yeah, instead of the U, right? Like, but it is, if you're in a ditch and you're like a Ukrainian soldier, and you're trying to throw a grenade one way or the other, and you're trying to base it on who's talking?

Yeah, it's kind of hard. Yeah. See, I think that's why also that such a fluid thing of opinions maybe is because it's to the like American eye, you look at, you know, like if you had a Ukrainian or a Russian guy over, they're both very loud and they're going to smoke inside. You know what I'm trying? They're both going to be pretty loud, you know?

But other conflicts like fucking U.S. Afghanistan is obviously very easy to pick aside because they're so different. There's such a big cultural collision, you know. Which idea on on that one? Afghanistan and the U.S.? There's only one true God. Amalaya. Yeah, I think he wants to get killed. Well.

I mean, have you been to Dubai? No. No. Yeah. Looks pretty good. Yeah. I know they have all that oil, but who put it there? Inshallah.

Didn't God put the oil there? And that's what God made them rich. Mm-hmm. Doesn't Alabama have a lot of oil too? Have you been to Alabama? No. Doesn't, yeah, it looks pretty good. Venezuela has five times more oil than Saudi Arabia.

Really? Yeah. Oh, but is it so deep? Is that the thing? No, no. It's communism. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Venezuela has a lot of oil. Yes. Have you told us to the American government? Oh, they know. They know. The boys. Yeah, they know. That's why China is in Venezuela as we speak.

All of a sudden, another tower gets it by three Venezuelans, you know? All of a sudden. You're never going to get a Venezuelan to believe in that shit. Yeah, they can't be asked to do any work. No. And they like drinking and pussy too much. too much. They're gonna feel like, what?

Well, I'm supposed to see. That's sweet ass. End this now. Sweet ass. Dude, your dad must have been that guy. Because everyone's having like British. Oh, all my, sex. Yeah.

And this, you know, oh, I, well, I, you know. And then your dad's just fucking going to town of that, Shuro, A.K. Do you know his mom watches the show? Yeah. She would be a big fan. Yeah.

I think she'd be very confused by you, Ari. Yeah, I think a lot of people might be very confused by you. Ari, thank you for coming on the show. Thank you so much. We're going to go to Substack where our audience get to ask you their questions. Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah, and it's all about black people, so you'll enjoy it. All right, head on over to Substack.

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