TRIGGERnometry - Finally, Gary Stevenson Has Been Found Out - Konstantin Kisin

Episode Date: July 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:35 The rise and fall of Gary's economics. Anyone who knows me will tell you that I do not believe in making politics personal. I believe that the failure to treat our political opponents as human first and wrong second is one of the great challenges of our time. The power of atomizing technology has transformed the public debate into a public shouting match. Why? It's not just that the internet is given everyone a voice,
Starting point is 00:02:03 it's that it has given a voice to people who never have to sit in the same room. Before the age of YouTube and social media, political and media opponents didn't have the option of shit-talking each other from the safety of their podcast studios. They had to sit across from each other in TV green rooms and then sit together in one room
Starting point is 00:02:22 and at least pretend to be talking to each other. Having done a fair bit of media in my time, I can tell you that meeting the people you're about to debate in the green room beforehand is an important part of the process. It might be that the extent of what you can discuss without an argument erupting is limited to the weather because it's 2026 and we can't seem to agree on what a woman is.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But still, you're forced to be civil. The effect of this you know from your own experience. The way you react to someone accidentally cutting you up in traffic is far less restrained than your response to someone. someone accidentally bumping into you on the street. The action is the same, but the level of offense both taken and expressed is not. Why? Reassured by the physical distance and feeling of safety it provides,
Starting point is 00:03:07 we feel comfortable to engage in more confrontational behavior. This difference has been recorded in study after study. Not that you need a study to understand this. The great American philosopher and former heavyweight boxing champion Mike Tyson said it best when he said, Social media has made you all too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face. This is why whenever I've had disagreements with other people, I've always tried to engage with them in person. We did this with Jimmy the Giant, a new left content creator who made a video calling me a grifter,
Starting point is 00:03:39 and eventually apologized and took it down after we had a rather robust discussion in our studio. We did this with Dave Smith over Israel, with Peter Hitchens over Ukraine. We just did it in a blockbuster upcoming interview with Tony Blair's spokesman, Alastair Campbell. I always try to criticize people's ideas, not them personally, because I know that physical separation is corrosive to public debate. Not only do we feel safe and far from the people with whom we disagree, but there is now a giant audience which is not in the room who are watching all the drama. Drama, remember, is above all a performance. And in today's world, you don't have to play to the audience. You just have to play to your audience. And your audience
Starting point is 00:04:20 doesn't want you to self-moderate, they want you to ramp it up to 11. A significant portion of the content creator space has realized this, which is why we're living in the age of the character. Andrew Tate is the heel, a well-known character in combat sports from which he hails. Candice Owens is the entertaining Conspiracy Loon character, and Garry Stevenson is the Articular and Courageous Champion of the Down-Trodden character. It's important not to confuse actual articulate and courageous champions of the Down-Trodden with the character. You can help poor people and you can want to help poor people. They're not the same. The problem with Gary Stevenson is not him as a person. I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It's just that he doesn't understand basic economic concepts. Daniel Priestley once spent several minutes trying and failing to get Gary to understand the difference between assets and income. This clip is really worth listening to in full even though it feels dry and technical. Just watch Gary's brain short circuit repeatedly, as he ironically complains about how much tax he paid when he was making millions as a Citigroup trader. Listen, I went my tits off and I paid it was 50% top rate tax. 50% top rate tax plus national insurance, 60%. So a million a year.
Starting point is 00:05:33 To bring my family out of poverty. At the same time, the Duke of Westminster inherited 10 billion pounds and paid nothing. Do you think that's fair? That's not true. Okay, why is it not true? Because the Duke of Westminster is one of the highest taxpayers in the country. So they pay 0.6% a year. So I paid 60% and this guy pays 0.6%.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Apples with apples, inheritance tax is 40% across the course of your life. If a trust is, if a person lives who owns a trust for 70 years, then 6% times 7 would be 42. So they actually pay more. So he pays 0.6% a year. Pro rite. But that would be the same as... What percent did I pay per year? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But that's... 60%. Hold up. So you're saying I pay, what 60 over 0.6%? No, no. 100 times the tax rate. You're not comparing apples with apples. You're not, you're talking about income versus the transfer of an estate.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So why is it? Because the Duke of Westminster can be worth $10 billion. Just, you're comparing your income. Yeah. Versus the amount he inherited, which is not a fair thing. That's not income. Because that's his income. Inheritance is not income.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So if I get given $10 billion, I don't pay any tax. But if I work for $10 billion, I pay 60%. Well, if you inherit it... If this is the tax system that you want, you will end up in a... system where the kids of the ritual and everything. I'm just saying you're... That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Winston Churchill famously described his political opponents as modest men with much to be modest about. Gary has no such problem. What he lacks in expertise he more than makes up in the complete absence of modesty. He was, after all, the best trader in the world, according to one Gary Stevenson. A recent article in AFT suggests that, to put it mildly, some of his colleagues didn't quite see it that way. Gary has now moved on from his his success in the world of finance to being one of the world's leading expert on inequality, a title given to him by, well, himself. He appears to have confused his online fame with knowing things, but Gary is a political campaigner and not an expert. He's the Greta Thumburg of tax.
Starting point is 00:07:34 There's no denying he has built up a large audience. That makes him an expert in one thing and one thing only, building up a large audience. And it's true, you can build up a large audience by making good arguments about important issues and offering genuine insight. But you can also do it by pandering to people's anger and economic illiteracy. In the words of the great American economist Thomas Sol, when you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear. Gary has done fantastically well out of advocating policies that would make this country poorer on the basis of false claims about the source of the problem he so passionately wants to address. This was described in extensive detail in a well-referenced post by tax expert Dan
Starting point is 00:08:17 Needle, who appeared in Gary's recent documentary. Needle sums up his breakdown by saying Gary Stevenson clearly cares deeply about inequality and passionately wants a wealth tax, but he's uninterested in the detail of either the problem or his solution. He exaggerates his expertise and his research is sloppy. Given the size of his audience, that's a shame. Even the Guardian agrees publishing a scathing review of the documentary. It's the Guardian, so they still think a wealth tax is a brilliant idea. But even they are shocked by how unpersuasive his arguments are when challenged properly and how lost he appears when he comes up against the most basic counter arguments to his well-rehearsed talking points. Gary thinks he's Robin Hood, the man who took from
Starting point is 00:09:01 the rich and gave to the poor. There's only one problem with all of this. Robin Hood didn't take from the rich. He took from the sheriff of Nottingham, who was paid. attention now, a tax collector and debt enforcer taxing ordinary citizens to within an inch of their lives. Robin Hood is not a story about taking from the rich and giving to the poor. It's a story about resisting a tax regime that is starting to take the piss. The weird thing is, Gary knows what Britain's actual problem is. In fact, he summed it up very well in that clip we played you with Daniel Priestley when he kept complaining about having to pay 50 and 60% of tax on his earnings. Our problem is not that the rich are doing well, it's that the country is doing badly. We have the highest
Starting point is 00:09:44 industrial electricity prices in the developed world, thanks to the lunacy of Net Zero, which has both destroyed our manufacturing and made us uncompetitive in the world of AI where most future growth is going to come from. We've made hiring people expensive by raising national insurance and a huge risk by introducing the employment rights bills day one sick pay provision, and we've chased out both successful innovators, like the founder of Revolut Nick Stronsky, and the young talent that could replace him in the future by making Britain a terrible place to run a business. Instead of generating enough wealth for everyone to do better, we keep raising taxes. The tax burden is now the highest on record, in an attempt to maintain the illusion that we're still a wealthy
Starting point is 00:10:30 country. We're not. We're currently somewhere between 25th and 29th in GDP per capita in the world, and are projected to be overtaken on living standards by Poland. That's not my claim, it's Keir Starmist. Look, I'm not a billionaire. I don't oppose wealth taxes because I'm going to have to pay them. It's just a terrible idea that isn't about helping anyone. It's about envy. I was born in the Soviet Union. I've seen what happens when feeding the green-eyed monster becomes the basis of government policy. And so, wishing Gary no ill will, I have to confess a profound sense of relief at the best.
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