TRIGGERnometry - Meghan Markle, Brigitte Macron, Piers Morgan and Feminism - Christina P

Episode Date: December 21, 2025

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Like, he used to be like kids with purple hair, and that looked like weirdos were like the cool kids. And now they're the fucking dorks and they're angry about stuff. What makes women happy? Well, what makes me happy is, unfortunately, more fortunately, the traditional things. I always considered myself a 90s liberal. And now that's considered conservative. I don't know what happened. I have so many questions for you.

Like what? Well, can we talk about the Muslims in Britain? I forgot you guys have a class system that blows me away. Francis, are you dating? I am dating. Okay, so tell me. You dumping clips. This is like Candace getting pinched by Macron's wife.

You think she's a dude? No. I love Pierce Morgan, by the way. I love watching him shit on Merkel. That's my absolute favorite. I feel a lawsuit coming on. They can't get me overseas, right? This episode is sponsored by our friends at Hillsdale College.

Right after this episode, go check out their incredible online courses, which are absolutely free at hillsdale.edu slash trigger. Christina P, welcome to Trigonometry. I'm so happy to be here. I love you guys so much. We love you. We've basically done all the talking while we were waiting to start. But one of the things we bonded over is our mutual love of communism.

Yes, what a perfect system. And I'm so happy that America is starting to adapt some of the principles because it worked so well the first time around. And you and I, our parents, well, you're from the old country. My parents escaped it in 1969. And so I have a real f***erial reaction when I hear people being censored. From Poland? No, Hungary.

Hungary. Even fear. Like, just a tiny, nothing country. We had an empire at one time. But our friend Seb Gorka is getting angry listening to this now. He's Hungarian. Oh. Yeah, he works in the White House, but he's Hungarian descent.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Sorry. No, no, I like being Hungarian. Don't be sorry. But, yeah, my asshole really puckers when I hear that people are not bothered by being censored. I don't know.

I can't imagine. My father predicted this, which is really interesting. Do you remember Michael Richards? I don't know if you heard about the story. He was on Seinfeld. He played Kramer, the wacky neighbor, yeah, in Seinfeld. And back in, like, 05, he went to the Laugh Factory, and he was bombing on his set, and he kept saying the N-word over and over.

He was like, these ends, these and, these ends. And, of course, it didn't do well because there was no joke. He was just him lashing out. But somebody had recorded him and put it on the Internet. And now he was being crucified for it. It was like the first canceling. And I went to my dad's house and I go, did you hear about this thing that this guy is saying the N word?

And he goes, well, so what? There is N words in the world. That's not a big deal. I was like, well, I don't know. I'm angry with that. But I do think it's like, he goes, this is how it starts. This is what he told me. He goes, this is the beginning.

And I go, what do you mean? He goes, this is how it was before the communists came. It's a slow drip. And that was 05. And exactly. society got real tight around like COVID, right? Like people were losing gigs. Shane Gillis got kicked off, right?

Of SNL for a tweet that he did. What the f***? I don't know. What's going on in Britain now? Are you guys like, are we feeling woke vibes still? I mean, what's going on in Britain is there's things cooking, but we don't want to admit that they're cooking. I've seen you guys protesting a little something, something.

Yeah. Guys are like, no thanks, Muslims. There's a lot of it. No, and like it's, yeah. Well, let's talk about it because I'm so curious to hear your perspective. I know Europeans are a little different than Americans. You guys do I have a culture that is thousands and thousands of years old and you guys have co-existed in a union, European, right, for a while?

And you guys like to keep your own shit, right? Religion, language, food, kind of, unless they're Indian and then you guys can go. What were you guys saying before we started about? Indians and Mexicans. Yeah, so basically, Indians are our versions of Mexicans. Sure. But we didn't colonize the Mexicans. You did take their land up.

We stole their shit. But we didn't force English on them, and we didn't force culture on them. Right? Didn't you guys do that with the Indians? Yeah. Yeah, we did. We did. But, and this is going to get me into so much, because I talk to Indians about the British Empire. And I think they would be like, I hate it.

And they were like, there was some pretty good stuff you gave us. Yeah. Well, English and culture, that aspect of culture being one of them. Yeah, and the trains. Trains are good. Trains are good. So actually, you know, is it all bad? I don't know.

I can't answer that. I'm not Indian. Oh, no, I can't. My stepdad was from India. It was born in Bombay, and he fucking hated it. And he hated being poor. And that's why he came to America and became a capitalist. So I don't know.

But it's so interesting, isn't it? because, like, we're looking like, I would have thought this would be the one country in the world that would be immune to communism. I don't know. I just thought, you know, because I grew up, I saw America in the 80s and the 90s, you know. God bless America. You know, capitalism's awesome. We make great stuff.

We're going to export into the world. Everyone kind of hated you, you yet envied you at the same time, particularly. And now you've got, like, Zoramandani probably going to get elected. That's crazy, dude. So, what are we asking? How did this happen? Yeah, I just like, to me, it seemed like you were capitalism, capitalism, capitalism, ooh, communism.

I don't know if it's that cut and dry. I feel like we're simplifying things a little bit here. I think there is a disillusionment with our belief in government and them having our best interests at heart. I wish I were an expert on wokeism, but I am not. I do think it is some disillusionment with the authority. And, oh, I can actually I can speak on a philosophical thing. I was a philosophy major in the 90s.

I graduated in 99 with a bachelor's in philosophy. And I learned continental philosophy. I learned everything up until postmodernism. And my professors said, you can learn about this stuff, but it's stupid and nobody buys into this shit because it's dumb, basically. They didn't say like that. But, and that's when I started to read what is now the ideology. of this culture of wokeness,

of the breaking the bind, the non-binary, and the gender stuff. And I think it's a misinterpretation of the original ideas. I don't think people are really understanding what they're spouting as their philosophy. By the way, should we even be talking about it? Is it kind of not over here?

Which one? Wokeness. Like, is it not over? I mean, look, I live in Texas now. Yeah. So I'm a little more, this is like, like Joe Rogan country here. And I'm really grateful to be more immune to it here. Being in California, I go back to visit L.A., and I feel the reverberation still of, like, the COVID time when people were really deep into it, like, really. Like, they're still scared

in so many regards. Like, there's still a trauma from COVID. Are people in L.A. still wear masks? That's what that f***s with my head. Every time you land in LAX, there's people in masks now. It's been five years. Yeah, and I love that because I'm like, oh, you're mentally ill. Like, now I can identify. But at this point, you kind of have to say that, right? Yeah, you're like, you're crazy.

Like, if you see one person in a mask per million, you go, maybe that guy's got a special health condition. Yes. But when you see lots of people, you go, no, you guys are crazy. Yeah, it's hysteria. Right. And I think it exists. It still exists a little bit in L.A. Like I said, Texas were like out in this is, this is no man.

land that's kind of great that way but I try not to pay attention to these idiots you know I do think a lot of it is mental illness and I I know that's very politically incorrect to say but like I'm on TikTok I love it that's where I get my news because I as to me it's the truth of the people you know and um I watch tick talk and I watch like a lot of these people that are like I'm astral gendered I'm this gendered and I'm like dude if it was like one normal motherfrippes out there claiming to be like whatever gendered, I'd be like, okay, cool. Like, how come I'm not friends with any of them?

Honestly, like, I'm friends with everybody, dude. Like, I can't find one to be friends with because they fucking suck. Like, they're not cool. They're not fun. It's because you, you know what it's really... I'm just, I'm serious. They're no fun.

They're not cool. Like, he used to be like kids with purple hair and that looked like weirdos were like the cool kids. And now they're the dorks and they're angry about stuff. you know? Yeah.

I befriended one. I can't say her name. She worked in an ice cream parlor. She was cool. Them, sorry, they were cool. That's it. Maybe because I'm just old. Am I old?

Yes, I am, but I mean, is it just not my generation? But I don't, I don't, I know people who, to see the world that way, they do not seem fun. Yeah. There's a kind of earnestness about them. They're fucking bummers, dude.

Bummers has a very different meaning in British. Oh, really? Yeah. What's a bummer, gay? Yeah. Not just gay, but someone actively engages in the act, though. Yeah. To consummates the, you know.

Yeah. Then that would be fun. Then those people aren't having fun. Yeah, they're having good luck. They're having great fun. Just be free. Just be free and have fun. But they're not having fun.

Well, speaking of fun, a lot of your stand-up has been about being a parent. Not parent. Sorry, mother, because there's a big fucking difference. There's a big difference. There's a big difference. What's the difference do you think? Women are intuitive. We create life, we nurture life, we are goddesses. And you guys are awesome because you kill stuff and you keep us safe.

Put it this way. Last night, I was sleeping and my six-year-old crawled into bed with me because he had a nightmare. And then our little kitten came and and laid on my chest to sleep. My husband has none of those things. And there's a reason. I'm not saying he's bad or anything. It's just that the feminine, this energy is a different thing, man. I mean, you know that you have mothers, right?

They probably weren't very nice to you because you're comics. I'm no longer a comic, so my mother was okay. Yeah, Soviet's mother. Yes, mine too, very hard, very rough. Did she teach you to be a survivor like mine too? My mother wasn't really that harsh with me. Oh, so lucky. But then I say that, I think, by Soviet standards.

Oh, so that's like, you know, I'm trying to think of the right metaphor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did she beat you? No. Oh, no. No, but no, no. No, you're like you to think about it a little bit, though. I'm trying to, no, I don't think so.

No. But it's like, I see, this. the weird thing like it wasn't as big a deal back then so if like if you knew people whose parents beat them you're like well they're not being me but this kind of part it's just it's just what happened right yeah and also the language particularly in england was different they wouldn't say beat they'd say i'd give me a clip around the ear yeah just a clip it sounds so nice that's yeah it does just a little clip you know it wasn't a clip it was a full grown man going boom around your head But yeah, but it was just like, oh, that's a clip.

But see, that's the thing. So then you go, well, those are nice things about woke, right? So then I don't want to shit on like all the non-binary's, because on the other hand, now boys can be feminine or girls can always be masculine. I shouldn't say that, but, you know, maybe if you are a boy who's on the gay highway and you, you know, and you just can't come out yet, but you go like, oh, maybe I can wear a dress and that's okay. Or maybe I can identify as something and then on my way over there.

But I think the problem is if you even criticize this stuff, you're called a Nazi, you know, and that's the silliest part. But what I miss most about society is eccentrics. Like Carl Lagerfeld, I became very obsessed with him recently because he was so inappropriate. And he was this asexual, homosexual, and he didn't like Jews, and he didn't like Muslims.

And he was super fucking talented, though. And he would give interviews and say that he hated fat women, especially fat models. And I was, I'm a little dying, laughing, hearing this shit. Because growing up, people just said wild shit. And you were like, yeah, but that's him. He grew up in Germany in 1800 or whatever, and he's just an idiot.

It doesn't affect me. But to not even have the license to say these things, I think is what bums me out. And we're gonna lose out on artists. We're gonna lose out on, I mean, music is crap, as you know. I think I don't know, I'm just old too. but art is suffering for it. If you look at, and I'm not shading Taylor Swift.

I've, I don't, she's not my demographic, obviously. It's not for me. She's hugely successful. But there is something bizarre to her being buttered noodles. The, and by buttered noodles, it's like what radio used to be in America. It's so middle of the road, right? It's like buttered noodles is, everybody can eat buttered noodles. It's not delicious, but everybody's,

but everybody will eat butter noodles. And Taylor Swift feels that way to me. And there's a certain safety in music now, a safety in art, a safety that has to be there because they're creating in a bubble of the internet. Could you imagine? I always think of the Beatles doing their 10,000 hours in Germany, right? And some shit dump bar becoming the Beatles.

And could you imagine if they put that online and they read their comments as they were developing as artists. And it was like, you guys fucking sucks. Ringo, what kind of faggot name is Ringo? You know? And you're like, that would have discouraged these teenage boys from becoming who they were. So there's something to the surveillance of this woke culture that just kills the spirit, kills the art, kills the eccentrics. That's what I miss. Well, that's the curse and blessing of the internet, I think, because on the one hand, it allows people like us to do things and they get amplified. And people,

watch them and like we never would have connected with you know two million people who watch our show without the internet but on the other hand because the technology is so powerful suddenly if a comedian says a rude word on a podcast like there's two million people that saw them say that and that's a concern do you like do you see what i mean it makes me laugh so much because does anyone really give a shit asked him people to define the word capitalism and you're probably get 10 different answers. It's a word that gets thrown around constantly, but how many people actually know what it means? That's why I've been watching Hillsdale College's free online course understanding capitalism. In seven lectures, it breaks down not just what capitalism is, but also why it works.

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That's Hillsdale. Dot E-D-U-Slar to enroll for free. One more time, that's Hillsdale. Dot edu slash trigger. Does anybody really fucking care? There's five dorks in a basement writing this stuff. You know, one sensitive nerd. Right?

Do you know what? I agree and I don't agree. Like, take Mark Maren. He really fucking cares about this stuff. Like, I look at Mark and he's on. podcast and he's furious. Yes. He's livid.

He's like, you know, they're fascist. And you can see him working himself up. You're a millionaire. You're 62. You've got a successful career. You've had one of the biggest podcasts of all time. Dude, chill out. But he's literally phoning at some points.

I know. Well, look, we're comedians. We all have our soft points, our rubbing points, or triggers. But I think what's, and I will say this, because I'm aware there's a whole feud right now in comedy that I'm kind of not oh is that no I'm serious yeah I don't I don't pay I don't do stand up anymore I don't pay much attention what was going on well let me break it down for you okay history in a nutshell it's the club comics versus the liberal comics let's say okay so back in LA there's two thrillers a few scenes in comedy but back in the day it was east coast versus

west coast right so in L.A you came up you were either a club comic where you did wherever the f they would take you. You get on the road, you go to Toledo, you do any shi-bag place in Toledo, you'll do in Cleveland. I don't know why I pick Ohio is my reference, but, you know, you'll go anywhere, do anything, entertain anyone.

And then there's the group of the liberal guys, like the Marin's, the Pat and Oswald, the David Crosses, who preferred to do, like, were considered alternative venues, right? Like smaller theaters. And they cater to a specific audience, people that were like-minded individuals.

and they seldom would do the road. It was considered, I don't know, like, we're like the circus people, like, were just donkeys, which kind of, yes, I agree, yeah. Entertain anybody, how much is it, $1,200? I'll go there. That's how I was. I just wanted to make a living. Anyway.

I just wanted to be an artist. So, but here's the catch, here's the rub, is that those liberal comics were also in the Hollywood system. So here's the, they were so lucky, and I was so jealous of them back in 2008 because, like, here, I am trying to get work on the road and be a donkey here, whereas they're getting cast in pilots and Comedy Central just loves these, like, weirdo, you know.

Meanwhile, like, it's just not for me, okay? But I think all those guys are funny and, you know, everybody has their own way. So what happened was podcasting was invented and that took off. And now those guys that are employed by Hollywood are no longer employed by Hollywood because Hollywood has shifted so tremendously. to the podcasting in the independence world of the internet. And I think, like, we don't know how to, I know, if they're fucking, maybe they're pissed. Is that what's going on?

That the economy of it all has switched. I don't know, dude. Well, that makes a lot of sense to me, right? Because the people who used to get the opportunities and be on top no longer getting opportunities and not being on top, that's not a recipe for happiness, for comedians, right?

No. And what's interesting as well is the other thing that's happened, and, you know, Mark, I've seen some of his stuff criticizing people is, you know, what's happened is a lot of the comedians who hosted a podcast sort of are now seen it by some people, maybe not by themselves, but by a lot of other people as like the source of news.

Yeah. Which is not how it was supposed to be. That's what I'm saying. Like, people say to us, And, you know, we try to, you know, also do journalism to some extent as much as we can. But people say to us, oh, I get all my news from Trigonomwich. I'm like, you shouldn't. You shouldn't.

And we do have serious conversations on the show. But, like, you need more than that, right? Yeah. So if you look at Joe Rogan and you think, like, this guy is the equivalent of the New York Times, you're going to end up very unhappy because that's not what it's for. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, the New York Times is a, that's a totally different. different viewpoint and everyone has their own.

But the problem comes too when these, I think too there's a disillusionment with our press because then you start to learn what's going on there. And you're like, wait a minute, why is this story being written about so-and-so right now? Oh, oh, this is all connected? Like, there's disinformation being actively spread in the public sphere of news.

So then you're like, well, who the heck can you trust? Well, I do know there's a guy. that spends a lot of time reading this shit from the internet and his name is joe rogan and i don't have the time to do it but god bless joe rogan because he does i'd rather listen to fucking joe rogan than i don't know cnn or anderson or whoever fox because maybe he knows what's up he's impartial there's no skin in his game for it right yeah i think the issue comes and this isn't joe by the way because joe doesn't play this game but that's game that i really grinds my gears is people who talk about serious subjects and have an opinion and that's fair enough.

And then when they get challenged or they get caught in a trap and their logic is exposed, they go, hey, I'm just a comedian. And you're just like, dude, you can't do that. Oh, you can't. That's what I've been doing. But I never professed to be a genius and I just, you know, like I'm just talking out of my asshole. I think that's what we all do. opinions, I don't know, who the fuck is right? I don't know.

But what you do is different because you're just, I'm a comedian riffing about stuff. And the purpose of it is to be funny and then to be, maybe to make a point. But if you go into a debate and you're like, I'm going to talk about the Middle East and why Israel is committing a genocide. And then you get caught spreading misinformation or a conspiracy theory like a comedian called Bassam Yousiff did. And then on Pierce Morgan's show, he went, aha, I'm just a clown. I'm like, no. Do you know what I mean? I love Pierce Morgan, by the way.

You do? I do. I do. I do. I love it. You guys have a different relationship to him because he's one of yours and you see more of it, maybe? No, no, no, no.

I'm not having a, we've had peers on the show loads of times. Oh, I fucking love him. That's why I'm asking. I want to know him. Okay, I'll tell him. Okay. Why do you love Pierce Morgan? I love.

He's gonna fucking watch this on repeat for the rest of his life. Yeah. This is every day. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because I like, like I say, I follow, you know, your guys' stuff. And I like, he was very outspoken against

woken against woken very early. And he got fired for it, yeah? Like, he had the show. He got fired for criticizing Megan Markel. Yeah, he did. That's my favorite. Let's talk about that shit. I just, I love watching him shit on Markle.

That's my absolute favorite. Why? Oh, gosh. I mean, how much time do we have? A lot. Yeah. Where do I begin? I've never seen you lie up like this.

I want to hear this. And so does Pierce, Morgan. Okay, okay, okay. He watches our show. He's watching this. Okay, good. So, Pierce, here's why I love you, buddy. I think you're one of the first people to expose Ms. Markle for being a social climber, for being very ambitious, let's say. I mean, look, I read all the books. You've done all the research. You're not allowed to say at the end of this, I'm just a comment.

This is your opinion. This is, listen, do I know what about Israel and Palestine? I don't know a thing. I don't care. Okay. I'm a mom. What I want to know is gossip about the royal family. Correct. That's what I fucking care about. So let's talk about it. Okay. I've done deep, deep dives. Okay. So I've done deep dives. Okay. So I've read all the books. I've done other things. I think the way he characterized her because she came to London to be set up. And she wanted to be set up with a footballer. I forget that guy's name. And somehow she weasels her way into getting set up with age, with age. And then, but Pierce Morgan says that, oh, yeah, no, I met me. Megan Markle in a pub, and she's very much a social climber, and she basically threw me over to get into with the Royals.

And I was like, wow, that's my fucking bull duty said that, and that's what got me on the deep dive with Megan Markle. And listen, I also, I realized the monarchy is a sensitive subject with you guys. No, no. Just go for it. Just go for it. But as an outsider, it's not my thing.

So as an outsider, here's what I like about the monarchy. Go on. Are they flawed? douchebag and bread. People, yeah. Do they have a birthright to be better than anybody? Of course not. It's absurd. We're well past the time of kings and queens.

It's stupid. It really is. However, it brings a lot of, I think, tourism to your country. It's deeply, it's a tradition that is revered, and it's everywhere. You go to the King's Arms pub. Everything is named after the royalties. Okay,

great, fine. I think this last queen was amazing. I think she really took it seriously. Charles, I mean, he gets it. Went very late in the game, which sucks for him. And that Camilla, please, she's no queen. Okay. Why is she no queen?

She's a sidepiece. Let's not real. She's a side piece. You can't argue with it. No, she was a side piece. Okay, anyway, I have a lot of opinions. So, so, sorry. Let's get back to Megan.

The point of the story is, I think it's disgusting to come into a culture and be so willfully ignorant of it and to go, I didn't even know that his grandmother is the queen. And isn't it silly? I had to do a curtsy, like at medieval times. And it's so disrespectful and so gross as an American.

Like, as an American. I'm a donkey as well, culturally. I get that. But if I was going to go meet the queen, you better believe I'm going to figure out how to do that properly. It's not my culture, dude. Respect that.

So I find, I found that to be very arrogant. And then to go into Britain and be like, I'm just going to do what I like to do. I'm the center of the show. And it's like, bitch, you're not the center of the show, actually. It's the older brother and his wife that are going to inherit the throne. And those two know what the f*** are doing. And no one gives a f*** about you and your beige outfits. And so she made it about her because I think she wanted to be famous.

She wanted to be a big celebrity. And then she got Harry out of the system and now she's in, the thing that pissed me off about her. And I'm not someone who follows it closely, really, was when she tried to make all that shit about race after we had this wedding, which, like, the entire country got down on its knees and, like... And the queen accelerated, by the way.

The queen pushed up everything so that they could get married sooner. Right. And it's just like... And look, it was a time in which a lot of people played that game. I just didn't think... And that's what Pierce got fired for, I think, is talking about that, basically saying,

Isn't that right? Yeah, it was kind of, it was also saying, like, did you remember the scandal where she said it was racist because they were going to have a baby and people in the royal family were speculating what color the baby was going to be? Like my mom's Venezuelan. I remember that that's basically what people used to talk about

every time someone had a kid. Yeah. Yeah, and they'd say something like to my grandfather, I hope he doesn't have your Arabic nods. A woman with that nose, she will never find a mate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's how it is.

But that's how we, in every family, especially if there's mixed heritage, that's what everyone talks about every time. And even, okay, so so what, let's say, worst case scenario, somebody's racist. Okay, so fucking what? What are you going to do about it? You know how many stupid things have been said to me over the years?

You're a female kind of like women shouldn't talk, blah, blah, okay, so what am I going to go? Sorry about that. I mean, am I going to go on? I shouldn't have said that. So, what? you know what I'm saying? It doesn't mean you go to Oprah and blast your in-laws. I don't care who they are like, do you? Blast your in-laws. Yeah, if I won't public with everything, my in-laws have

sex. But that's what I'm saying is your family perfect and squeaky clean? No, most family. You have older people in the family that say inappropriate shit. Yeah. It's like, normal, dude. Exactly. And like the uncle is, should we just say, dodgy, to put it mildly. The uncle. The uncle, Uncle Andrew. Oh, Uncle Andrew. What is? He got disinherited, didn't he?

Well, the thing is, you can't strip effectively. Apparently, I want to see where this sentence is going. Apparently, it was saying that you can't strip him of his title, I don't think. There's some kind of legalese where you can't do that. But he, they've kind of just been like, just like stay out of the picture. Yes. Because, you know, you bring a bit of shame. Yes.

A bit of shame. A lot of shame. Yeah, just a little. Just a little, because he turns out that it might have lied about the Epstein thing, cutting him off. And there was that email that came out that basically said, I'll stand with you till the death. Yeah, and then Fergie with $40,000 in front of her or whatever. Yeah. Are we getting ourselves on legal trouble by saying all this shit?

I don't know. Allegedly. Allegedly. That's how we get bastard in America. Same here, same Britain. Allegedly. Allegedly. If you say allegedly, everything is fine.

But the daughters have separated themselves. from Andrew because they want to stay in favor and what I understand with the king and the current. Maybe they don't like their dad being a bit of a nonce. Yeah, for sure. Wait, am I? I'm not sure I really should say that. I'm doing stand-up, right? I'm just a comedian.

Just a comment! I'm a idiot, man! What do I know? Generally, that is not an area I have done a lot of research into, but I'm glad we're delving into. Yeah. So, anyway, this is why you love people. because he stood up to Megan Markle's. Well, to everybody.

I think that I think he's right, dude. It's like, what are you going to, you're going to fire a guy? Because he had, actually, they can fire you if you work for a private company for saying whatever. But I don't know. I like that he's ballsy and he says inappropriate things. That's fun. Do you know what I think, like, I did this clip and I just, I put it on the internet of me just

doing a little rant about Megamarkle. It went viral because, and I didn't the reason it went viral because there was a line in it where it went. This is what happens when you marry a woman much smarter than you. And that is, Harry, she's a lot. Whatever you think about her, she's not done. No. She's a smart woman.

Brilliant. And brilliant. And super hot. Beautiful. Yeah. Smoking. She is. And I don't think, and this is my controversial opinion, people on the right,

don't admit this. She's a 10. She's a 10. Of course she's a 10. No. She's beautiful. I mean, she will eat you. Yeah.

after she's had sex with you. Yes. But she's a tent. So maybe that's even 11 for some people. And I think in America, it's fine to be ambitious. It's fine to be that. It's fine to be a 10 who wants to seize it. But you can't do that with the monarchy because it's not a capitalist thing.

I think you can. You just can't do it the way that she did it, which is to come in. Your point earlier, I think, was bang on, which is like you've got to play by the rules of the game. You can't come in and be like, this game needs to change because I'm here. Yeah, who are you? This is thousands of years of tradition.

So here's the flip side. Harry is a bit of a pussy. Correct. Yes. Okay, because we all know the guy that wants to get out of the family and say, fuck you, mom and dad. So what do they do? They marry a bitch, right? And the girl gives him the balls to stand up to Mommy and Daddy. And now he leaves the family. So I think Harry, I read his book, too. The Spah. And, yeah, he was, you know,

He doesn't want to be there. He doesn't want to do the job. I don't think. No. He did. He was like a, he was an athletic guy. He was, he said that he wanted to go to Eaton, where they all go to?

Eaton, darling. Yeah, and he wasn't like a straight-A student. He was just kind of a sweet goofball kid. But he didn't want to, he didn't want to do the family biz. And I think he married her to get out of it. You know, I once did a gig in near Eaton. And there was a lady in the front row and I was, I was in. seeing and I said oh what do you do she goes I'm a teacher I go where do you teach and

there was a bit of a pause she looked at her friend and went Eaton college I was out okay and when did you teach you Eaton she gave the years and I went what did you teach and she went art and I went did you teach Prince Harry there was silence and I went didn't he get an E in a level art and you I went that's not a high grade that is that is that is Literally the bomb. It goes from A to E. Okay, we have F. That's what stops for us.

And then you, which is ungraded, which is a total for E. And I went, how did you manage to make that work? And she said, and I quote, I did the best I could with the materials on offer. So I don't think he's a super bright guy. This very hot, very intelligent, very beautiful actress, swans in. And then, you know, I feel a lawsuit coming on. They can't get me overseas, right?

No, no. You stay in Texas in your fortress with your... This is... They are 15s. This is like Candace getting pinched by, what's her name, Macron's wife. You think she's a dude? No. No.

What is this retarded shit that people come up? Why do people... I have to say... I have to say, though, there is a small part of me that worries, because I have talked a lot of shit about Candace and Bridget McGrath. Because I think the idea that she's a dude is retarded. But there is like a 2% chance I'm wrong. And then I'm going to look like the biggest idiot in the world.

So I don't know, but I don't think so. Do you think she's a dude? Can I tell you how retarded I am? I went down Candace's rabbit hole. I read the fucking book she recommended and everything. And I'm like, it's not impossible. Like you said, is it plausible? No, but it is possible.

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or type in V-E-N-I-C-E dot A-I-slash-Trigger and see what you've been missing. I don't know. We'll find out soon enough if she has a dick or had a dick or whatever. But the thing is, she got together with Macron is the point of this episode to make sure we can We can never work again. Is that what we're doing here? Yeah. I'm sorry. I just get excited to talk to you guys

because I have so many questions for you. Like what? Well, can we talk about the Muslims and Britain? Please, I'm just curious. I as an outsider. Okay, okay. Here's what I, my understanding is that culturally, you guys, it sucks culturally, yeah?

Like to have your dominant culture be overtaken? Is that what the issue is? I don't think that's what's happening. It's not being overtaken. So Muslims are about 4 million out of 70 in the UK. Okay. The issue, I think, is that while most Muslims are perfectly decent people, they follow the law, they do everything else that everyone else does,

there is a fringe that are extremist. And instead of dealing with them the way that you would deal with any other people who are engaging in criminal activity, there is a feeling that they are being given some leeway. or the crimes that are committed by, say, grooming gangs, rape gangs, which were in some areas very heavily Muslim, or not just Muslim, but from very particular areas of former British Empire. Those crimes were overlooked and, in fact, covered up

to avoid upsetting what they call community cohesion. So this is the issue, right? Like, if you want to be Muslim and someone else wants to be Christian and someone else wants to be Jewish and everyone practice their religion and follows the laws and is faithful to their country and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No one would have any issue with that. But the moment you start creating a society

where different groups get special treatment, that's when people suddenly go, well, hold on a second. Why is that happening? That's, I think, the stuff that you guys are hearing over here, that's what's going on. Got it. Because I think as an old school immigrant, kind of like you are, we're both from like the Soviet world.

my parents when we came to the U.S., they were like, no, we are America now. We assimilate to this. I don't put the Hungarian flag outside the house. There's a reason for that. We are in America now. And I think it's considered, is that racist now? Yeah, no, no, I understand where you're from.

That's cool. Like, you can eat your shit. You can do your thing. You speak your language. But you do have to abide by like these rules because we're in this country now. Right, you need to buy in. It's not just, see, people always talk about

you've got to follow the rules. I don't think it's just about that. I think it's what your parents said, which is like, we become this new thing. And we let go of a lot of the shit that we brought with us, because we're American now, right? And this is the concern, I think, with immigrant. Like, America, in my experience,

is like the most pro-immigration place in the world. Yes. Right? Is that fair? Thank God. And yes, and thank God for it, because I wouldn't fucking be here if it weren't for that. And at the same time, there's also the feeling that, like,

like you said, we welcome you, but it's like if you welcome someone to your house, like take your fucking shoes off. There you go. It's a no shoes house, take your shoes on. There you go. That's it. It really is as simple as that. And that's what's happening in Europe is a lot of people feel like people aren't taking the shoes off. Yeah. And in fact, we're supposed to say, well, that's their culture. They wear shoes in the house, so they should wear shoes in our house. That doesn't wash. I know. And it's such like a, it's such a fussy line with that, with those two cultures, you know, and west it's fuzzier and i think certain cultures meld easy easier yes yes others yeah right well if both cultures have shoes off in the house yeah then it's kind of easy yeah and it's also as well

there's certain religions from the same roughly the same part of the world that have melded very well with with british culture for instance hindus and Sikhs yeah there've never been really any problems like Sikhs are in fact some of the most patriotic people and when it comes to like getting pissed, no one gets pissed harder than the scene. I know people who've been to a Sikh wedding, like, dude, every one of those fuckers drank me under the table. Yeah. You know, so it's kind of part of the culture.

Whereas as well, there's also the specter of terrorism with the fringes of the Muslim religion. And when you look at, you know, the majority of terrorists or extremists that are on the watch list in the UK, the majority are Islamic terrorists or people who support or sympathy. with those particular actions. And you're looking at this and you're going, well, unless we actually have a full and frank conversation about what's going on here and how we deal with it, then the problem is only going to get worse,

but nobody wants to have the conversation and every time you do, you get, diversity is our strength. Diversity is our great. This is what happens. Every time there's a terrorist attack, diversity is our greatest strength. Right? And if you keep making that connection for people,

they go, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Eventually, right? Because that, the fact that there's people from different, like in America, there's people from different places in one country, that's fine. As long as we are honest about where certain problems are coming from and we all get together and really focus on fixing them. A thousand percent.

Instead of all getting together and focusing on covering up the problem. A thousand percent. That's what's happening in the UK. A thousand percent. So that's why you're here in all that stuff. Okay, yeah, because in this country, you've got the left and the right, and you've got the Texans who were like, you get out of my country, I don't want y'all. And then you have California that's like, everybody come over. It's fine. So somewhere in between those two is, I think, where we come and find a solution. So who's in your, there's enough people going, they just to get out of our country. Are there, and there's enough people on the other side going, I don't know, it's fine. So somewhere it's got a. Well, and the issue is, which is slightly different in America, is the people going, oh my God, isn't it wonderful that they come over here? And everything's beautiful.

They're the ones in charge. They're the ones in charge of the government at the moment. And they're the ones in charge of all the institutions. So what's actually getting pumped out in the party line is, oh, my God, guys, diversity is our strength, ignore the bombings. Gotcha. Whereas all the regular, particularly blue collar, because we're a far more class-based society than you are here.

So all the working class people are just like, mate, there's grooming. gangs happening and those terrorism and whatever else. And their voice hasn't been heard. But now with the internet and with the rise of certain political figures, whether mainstream or on the fringe, we're having the discussion whether you like it or not. Yeah, I like that. I forgot you guys have the class system.

That blows me away. That's an amazing thing about America. It's like if you've got money, you're upper class. If you don't have money, it doesn't matter who your dad was. It doesn't matter who you. Well, it's true. my Indian stepfather, that's what he loved the best about America. He's like, no, basically I'm white because I'm a millionaire.

I'm a Republican. You can buy skin color in America. You kind of can. You kind of can. Oh, totally. But what is this hoarship with you guys? You guys are still stuck in this. What is?

Is it real anymore? I mean, it still exists. It's not, it doesn't. You say them off. I don't know about it. He is from a lower middle. class, upper working class background, and he's got a giant f***in' chip on his shoulders. Good. Good for you. Yes. Thank you. Stick it to the man.

Even now that we've built this thing from complete scratch with our own efforts, no one's held us down, no one's lifted us up. It's entirely on merit. No one's holding him back. He's still got this fucking shit. Yeah, exactly. Talk him out of it. What's your shit, man? What are you upset about? You made it. Why are you still pissed off at the, at the rich? My identity. You are a richie now. But this is the hypocrisy. You can't. can't play both sides. Correct. Correct.

Either you're rich or you're not, man. You got to own it. You can't. Because I was a poorie growing up, an immigrant piece of shit. Nobody's zero. And then I made my money in America. And now I'm a rich piece of shit. I'm a hypocrite.

I'm a, I'm a douchebag. You just, you got to surrender to being an older douchebag. That's what happens when you get older. This is great advice for your friends. You just become your parents. I mean... But your parents were poor, so forget that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I'm becoming my mother. That's worrying. That's worrying for all of us, my friend. Wait, is this like the Gallagher brothers? Is this where you still have to pretend to be like, I'm the king of Manchester? What does he sound? I'm the mayor of Manchester.

Even though he's like, they clearly live... Yeah, this is why I keep trying to tell him. It's like, you've got to let go. You got to like, but it's so... But it's so strong on people's... By the way, I love Oasis. For the record, I'm huge. I don't know if they watch the show, but you can't give it a go.

But we, for example, we have a guy who's big, he's become a big YouTube now, is very kind of progressive left-wing guy called Gary's economics, right? This guy is a multi, multi, multi-millionaire who made his money in the city, in the finance world. And now he does videos in a dirty t-shirt about how the government is about to screw you over because you're working class. Right? And that works in Britain

because people look at him and they go, well, he looks like me, he sounds like me. I'm going, he's a multimillion. Yeah. Look, I'm not having to go at him. I'm just, this is a way of explaining the class system. No, no, I understand.

So he's playing both sides of the thing. Is a government screwing over the working class? They're screwing over everybody at this point, I would say. I would say we have come to the point in the UK where actually the most, model is no longer working. All right, let's test this little thing that we're playing out here. How do you feel about tax the rich, Francis?

How do I feel about tax the rich? Yeah. Well, how do you feel about that as a slogan? How do I feel, man? No, no, look. How do you feel about it? Look, look, I think that what it won't. No, I'm trying to explain.

I'm trying to explain. I think that in order to uplift the poorest in society, you need a strong economy. Do you sound like a politician, mate? Trickle down economics. This is the Margaret Statue we're saying, guys. I'm just a comedian. Yeah. The rising tides lift all boats, is what I'm saying.

Just got to work harder. Yeah, look, what people want is an opportunity and the chance to succeed. No, it's not. No, it's not. They want to tax the rich, take their money, and then give it to themselves. That's what people actually want. 75% of people in Britain support a wealth tax. Why aren't you one of them if you're working class, mate?

No, because I just, I think that those type of economics don't work on the long term. I think they may sound good and they may feel good quite like socialism, but if you look at the actual way it's applied, I don't think it works out. What you're saying is you care about the country. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think that is the big distinction between, at least last time I was in... It's a good answer. In England is very diplomatic.

Thank you. But you guys... And I don't want to pay any fucking tags. Because you know it's horses. Where does it go? I have a different view on it. I don't mind paying 50% tax, which is what we effectively do in the UK. That's bonkers, bro.

If that buys me and the entire country, good public services, good infrastructure, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's not what's happening, right? I was walking through London. Do you know, of course you've been to London loads. You know Mayfair. It's like the richest part of the country. And I saw one of these on a electric bike

with a balaclava on drive past a American tourist because I could hear from the accent and snatch like a boutique bag out of his hand 20 miles an hour just carry on like that, right?

London is becoming and then I tell people about it everyone who lives in London's like yeah I had my phone stolen last week I heard this like that's not worth 50% tax. No. That's why I left California

Right. That's how high I was getting there and there was no service. There was nothing there. It's just homeless people living in the streets and it was terrible. Yeah. And then you go, why am I living here? Why did I work my ass off for 20 years to give half my money to the government and they're not spending it properly? Yeah.

So, but you guys do give a rip about your communities more than we do. Like these council houses. Is that what they're called in fancy neighborhoods where like you'll be in like a nice neighborhood and you're like, wait, what's that doing here? And then you're like, all this is where the poor people get to live in this neighborhood. Like, that blows my mind as an American. We don't never do that. You know, there are specific whole sections

where we just push the poor. But like, does that work? I mean, look, until recently, I'm going to be honest to you, I think it did. I think where we are now, sadly, and I think this is why a lot of these people were saying tax are rich, wealth tax, is because the gap between rich and poor,

it just seems to be growing. all the time. And I think it's a huge problem. And I don't think people on the right are actually honest when they're like, oh, people vote for Zora and Mandani, for instance, they're all dumb. They're all students. They're all woke. It's like, yeah, but dude, it's like four and a half grand a month rent for a basic flat in New York. And that's fine if you can afford it. But the vast majority of people who work hard, do good jobs, put up a productive members of society, they can't afford that. So of course, if someone comes along and goes, freeze rent, through landlords, can you really blame them in a work?

Of course, of course. I know, but I don't, I don't know, because I don't, I'm not there right now. Like in this country, like when I was in my 20s, I did anything and everything to like get by to become an artist. So I was working shi-day jobs and, but the kids tell me now, they're like, there's no jobs, there's just no jobs. And I'm like, I don't know, is that true? Is it not true?

I'm out of touch. I don't know. Yeah, and it's kind of the worry because I don't think it works to call people And we should have learned this from Trump and Brexit and all of this. When people are angry and they have an idea which doesn't work, like socialism and communism we've seen in our countries, it simply doesn't work. You're not going to win someone over by calling them stupid or retarded

or going, look at this person, that's X, Y, and Z. Just like you're not going to make people want to vote for Trump any less by going, oh, you're stupid, dumb and racist. Yeah. These tactics don't work. And I think we face real issues within our own society, and we need to have a conversation about it. Go, how are we going to solve this?

Because we can't have people who, like, work all day, every day, barely living and just have the other side of it, which is a very few super rich. Well, this episode has become us ranting at you about this. No, I love that. I want to know this stuff, because all I know is what I see in, you know, tech talk. But it's also...

What do you see on TikTok? I saw the protests. I saw a lot of right, like, hardcore right-wing people protesting Muslims in your country. And I was like, well, surely that's not the whole story, obviously. Because, I mean, look, in America, capitalism has worked to some extent, but it's terrible for the welfare overall of human beings. I think we know that. And you have to, like, divorce yourself from the inhumanity of capitalism the way it works in our country. I don't know. I feel like you guys have to, like, divorce yourself from the inhumanity of capitalism the way it works in our country. I don't know. I feel like you guys have. had a moderate system, yeah? We're like, there was a welfare state, is that what it's called? Yes. Yeah, there's a basic level of humanity. That's disappearing. I mean, in America, too, we had some level of like giving a rip about people,

but it's just gone. I don't know. I feel like people are more and more, there's less of this happening face-to-face, right? Yeah. Like I can see in your face right now you're thinking and we're knowing, we're having connection. And this is very different than like these two, these three assholes. You rich bitch, you know, which, of course, yeah. I don't know. But that's such a shame because

I knew, do you meant, like when I used to talk to people from America, like their jobs, your jobs were so well paid. Even like you're a lorry driver, you would get like a hundred grand a year. Oh, is that right? Yeah. You should have done that when you were saying. Whoops. You know, but if you do all the overtime, and look, it's a tough, hard job when you're on the road and whatever else. But this idea that that's going is kind of... That's f***ed up. Yeah, and then AI is coming and then we're all fucking. You shouldn't have to rearrange your life to deal with hair loss.

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See website for full details, restrictions and important. and safety information. That's the next time, yeah. That is. That's the next. Well, it's already happening. It's already happening. It's really, we were talking with Joe about this.

Like, it's going to be a wild ride. Yes. Yes. And I don't know how to prepare my children for that one. I don't think anyone knows. I don't even know if there's going to be such a thing as a job 20 years from now. Can we say that? Can we say there's going to be jobs?

What if the AI and the robots do everything, right? Then we don't need to work. Can you go, that's great? Is it, though? Is it, have we ever had a time in human history when large numbers of people didn't have meaning and purpose and structure to their lives and had abundance?

Saudi Arabia, oil money. Don't they take the oil money and divvy it up? Basically. Is that how that works? Again, I'm totally ignorant about economics, but. But, but Saudi Arabia. They have no purpose. They seem to be chilling pretty far.

It's a great example. The leisure class. Okay, theoretically we want to create like a leisure class, right? That's the point of AI. But you're right. It won't go that way. Why? Because men need to do things.

Women can just exist. I think I can just chill and garden and pet my cats and my kids. You guys need to go out and fight stuff. Pick up sword, stab things. That's a male thing, man. You guys have itchy assholes and you need to go do things. That's such a good point. So what are you going to do?

I don't know. Kill the robots? I think some people are going to try. I hate them. I hate these cars that drive themselves around Austin. Every time I see one, I give it the bird, and I call it the enemy. Passive resistance. Yeah.

You, man. Yeah. That's a really good point about men. Men need to do shit. It's one of the interesting things that kind of got suppressed for a while is like we pretend there's no differences between men and women at a cultural level. I'm such a dumb thing to you. Have kids. Have kids yet?

Yeah. What do you have, boys, girls? I have a boy. Okay. So, I mean, you know, they come out wired this way. My kids make guns out of everything. There's nothing, I don't love guns. They do live in Texas.

They do. They do. Just snakes and guns. Yeah. No, totally. My son just can't sit still. He just runs around. It smashes into shit.

Yeah. Hits things. that's what he needs to do because he's some boy you know and i get it because i understand that you know women have been repressed for so long and subjugated and whatever and then we got mad and we were like we're going to do it and now there needs to be a back uh come to jesus again with the two of us it's just too out of balance and i think women have forgotten what their their value is being feminine there's so much power in the feminine there's so much power being a mother and a woman that's being devalued it's too bad i don't want to do what my husband does

especially after having cancer last year i was like you know what dude i don't want to do the road 50 weeks out of the year for what more money more fame i don't care anymore i do not care anymore let him do it he likes that let him make the money i want to sit home and garden pet my cats and there's value in that because i have two little boys that i'm raising yeah it's such a profound point i'm so glad you made it as well did you always want kids That was such a funny segue. No, I thought I was a career woman and that I would just dominate the stand-up world

and be in multimillion. There's a reason I ask you about this because it's kind of a weird thing as a guy to even delve, to even dip your toe in the waters of this conversation. But this is a fact. I'm just saying what I'm experiencing. People can hate me, whatever.

We are meeting a lot of people all over the world, but particularly in the U.S., UK, etc., who are women, we've got to the late 30s, early, 40s, they haven't had kids, they haven't been able to find that relationship. Right? Let's talk about this. You know what you're going, I think. And it's like, and a lot of them are like sort of very carefully revealing that they

kind of like feel that they were like to about what they're supposed to do with their life, they're supposed to do this, and now they did all that and they're kind of like, wait, I didn't, I didn't end up where I wanted to turn up. Meaning childless, unmarried. Yeah. Yeah. because I think we were sold a bill of goods on feminism that just isn't how it is, right?

So we needed to get out of the kitchen. This is true. We didn't have any choices. We didn't have no options, okay? So we needed Betty Friedan, we needed Gloria Steinem, but Gloria Steinem never had children. And that's the piece of feminism that is missing from all of this, is motherhood.

How does that fit in? and how does marriage fit in? Because we've figured out how to become independent of the system, kind of. But is that really what we all want is to be outside of a system that has worked historically for thousands and thousands of years

and there's a biological drive to reproduce. And I think, too, if you spend, and this is just practical, I'm gonna be 50 in June. And if I had daughters, this is what I would tell them. Find the guy you're gonna marry in your 20s. That's when Tom and I met, And if you're banging all of these dudes and you're wasting your time on the apps,

having meaningless sex for two, what, your 20s, your 30s, and now you go, okay, I'm gonna settle down. Now I'm gonna get serious about finding a man. Well, guess what? All the first draft picks are gone. Because the good guys got married in their 20s and early 30s. And who's the left over?

You're like, oh, there's this one weird guy that's never had a girlfriend. And, you know, so, especially biologics, That's a lie. Women have to adhere to their biology. We can't have babies, really, in our 40s unless we have medical intervention, which I did. I'm totally open about that because I did the career thing first. And then I did motherhood. If I had to do it over again, I would have said, I don't know about this career thing. Really? I'll let my husband make the money. And I would have had 10 more kids. For 10 years younger, I would have had more. Yeah. I love it. Because I think that's, That's the meaning of this existence is to love your family and love.

What else is their fame? Who gives a shit? I'm going to be dead. No one's going to remember me in a few years, right? Who remembers Benny Hill? Do you guys even know who the f*** that is? Yeah, of course. He's a legend.

But I don't think about him as often as I think about my son. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then again, the societal pressure for women is much less to achieve. We just have to be attractive and thin and young.

You guys have to be rich and tall and tall. Yeah. At least two of the three. At least two of the three. Yeah, you could, yes, exactly. You could be ugly and rich. That's fair enough. But thanks for looking at me once you say that.

But I was going to ask a serious question. Yeah, go on, mate. Okay. But you know, it seems, and that women have been sold a dud. And it's only now that they're waking up. And I really hope that we're going to have an honest conversation about this because there are a number of women that I spoke to. These are really smart women, career women, lawyers, whatever it may be. And they're unaware of their own biology. Because they weren't taught it in school. No one explained to them, hey, if you want kids, the best time to have it is probably in your mid-20s. Yeah, biologically, yes. Yeah. You know, I'm actually relatively happy that we had our son in our late 30s

because the parent that I am is like, I mean, 20-year-old me was a f***ing idiot, right? I mean, 30-year-old was in it. I'm still kind of in it, but like, but less so over time. So there's probably some kind of middle ground. It just feels like what I see is a lot of people are just, a lot of women,

are getting to that age, and they're just realizing that the thing that they thought they were supposed to focus on is not the thing that makes them happy. A hundred percent. And if you say that, you're going to get crucified by the feminists. But that's why people don't say it. I was just thinking about this this morning on the toilet. I'm so excited that we're talking about this.

You were thinking about this? I was this morning. Why are you thinking about it? Because, like I said, I've been through a major illness. I've been through two kids. I've had fame, I've had money, I've traveled, I've done a lot of shit. And now in my 50s, I'm gonna go, okay, well, what is it?

What is it? What's the work here? Is it to be happy? What does that mean? Was it about the stuff? What is about getting famous? No. And I'm getting lost in my own sauce. What did you say before? I just said, why were you thinking about it on the toilet? Because it's, what's the point?

Like what does make women happy? Sorry, that was it. What makes women happy? And I was thinking on this toilet, well, what makes me happy is, unfortunately, or fortunately, the traditional things. And now, had I said that to my 20-year-old self, I would be horrified, because I was a good feminist. And I fought my way through comedy, and I did all the clubs.

I won't, I'll show you all be the best female comic. And I carried this anger that compelled me for 20, 20 years, right? And then you became a mom. And I got humbled by illness. And then I was like, okay. So what makes me happy? I know what makes me happy. I can't speak for all women. But is there something to my biology, to my essence? Possibly. Possibly. Do we know what makes all men happy? I don't. Yeah, we do. Yeah. Stay explode jobs. Football. Yeah. I mean. I'm not, I'm not that into football, but yeah. Yeah. But I think, too, it's. like this it was the male ideal of success that ruined women it was this idea that in order to

become equal we had to be like you yes that's the problem i have to have my career exactly like taunts i have to be successful like this is not going to work for me this is not going to work because i'm a mother my body can't keep up with this pace of work it's not good and it makes the woman angry resentful bitter and now i'm useless because if my kid can't come for a snuggle and my cat can't You know, I'm the center of the home. This is the truth, and it's not pretty to say anymore, but that's just, that's what I learned. And it's so interesting that you touched on power before,

because we were talking about power, and women want to be powerful like men are powerful. Women are super powerful. Just not in the same way. Just not in the same way. A hundred percent, babe. We are the ones, the puppet masters, no offense, but there's a reason I'm sitting here talking to you.

And my husband's on a plane to Indiana right now. Okay? And I mean, I'm so grateful that he does do that. I'm not saying that I manipulate him to do that. He wants to do that. But yeah, women's lives can be fantastic. If you let the guys just do their own, let them fucking do it. I always think about Margaret Thatcher.

I'm fascinated by her, too, when she got into parliament and her voice was too high, so she had to talk in a lower register to be understood by, the matter, this and that. To be taken seriously. To be taken seriously. She had to masculinize herself. And like, okay, maybe that's what she liked, but at what cost to her spiritually? I don't know.

I don't know her. I don't know. She didn't seem terribly happy. She seemed to work a whole lot. Maybe that was her secret to happiness. And it's also as well, and I'd love to get your opinion on this. There's the whole kind of sex positive thing. And there's part of me that goes, that's just an idea from a dude who's like,

Let's be free. A hundred percent. Polyamory is not a female in Benson. Do you know what I mean? No, and behind that, there's some dumb bitch on TikTok going. And I love being polyamorice. It's the best thing for us. I get my partner.

I will say this, and again, this is very controversial to spiritually and physically. It is not good for women to be promiscuous. I couldn't do it. And I put it this way. Like, a guy. blasts a load into you. Think about that, like just a dude blasts his load in me.

Like, who are you, bro? That you're just gonna dump your clip in me? And then like, I would carry the biological responsibility of that. It just seems rude for just some stranger to dump his semen inside of me, and I should thank him for that. Like, who the f f*** are you, bro? More respect. Like, what happened?

So like, no, court me. You got to court me. Take me out for dinner. At least take me out for dinner. And then maybe I'll fuck you, you know? Like coffee date. Isn't that what people are doing coffee dates now? And I don't know.

Francis is the one that's dating. Frances, are you dating? I am dating. Okay, so tell me, you dumping clips. This is going to be a great clip, by the way. So this is what I found very interesting about the ads. It's that I call it Necessing. cafe dating, which is, like, when you meet someone in real life, IRA, as a kid, say,

whatever it may be. IRR. Yeah. There's, you get to know each other. You're like, oh, I like her. She's nice. Oh, can I find a way that we can, like, let's say you work together. Let's sit down.

Let's talk. And, you know, on a Tuesday, you might have a snatch of a conversation. You know, about 20 minutes, like, oh, she's really cool and she likes this stuff. And then next week, you know, she's at the water cooler. So you're like, okay, let's go and talk. and gradually over time something builds, and you realize that you have in common, you have shared memories, shared experiences,

and something blossoms. Yes. Whereas when you do the app, like, okay, we're going to meet here at this time and whatever else, and then you sit and you have this conversation, and if you're good at having a conversation, you know ways to make it work and whatever else.

And then, but it's very superficial. It's like a tree with no roots. Whereas if you meet someone organically and it blossoms over time, it has roots, which means that when there's challenges that come, there's things that hold it in place, which an instant app or whatever, it simply doesn't. That's true, and you're less likely to blow that person off,

because I hear it's really common to just kind of forget somebody that you've started an interaction with, and then you're like, oh, whatever. That's so rude. It is. And it wouldn't happen in real life, IRL, if you were a... by, yeah, you saw that bitch every day. And you're like, what's up, Henny?

Where we've been? Exactly, because there's consequences to your actions. And because when we see someone online, we kind of, they're an avatar. They're not a real person. They're just like a little. That's so scary, dude. I'm glad I got married at 20.

Oh, you did? Oh, yeah. Is she good Russian woman? Ukrainian. Even better. Even better. So strong. Oh, good.

Yeah. Yeah. It's the best. See, because my Hungarian mother, she told me this stuff. The woman has to get, you have to find this early because nature comes in cycles, nature comes, you have to do things in the time. And that wisdom, this ancient European wisdom is not being handed down. Or maybe women aren't telling their daughters, like, no, no, dude, the guy doesn't want the girl

who every guy in the village has taken a right up. That's slut-shaming. I know. And I've got friends that are sluts, and I shame them. Right. To their f***ing faces. Well, see, you say the mothers are not telling the daughters. I don't know.

Is it that or is it that? I don't know. A, the daughter may be not listening, A. Yeah. And B, the daughter is going to school. Yeah. Where she's being told, no, no, no, no, no. You need to do this.

Yeah. This is part of your rights. This is what everyone's doing. Yeah. Right. And then you've got culture. And then you go f***ing TikTok. I know.

So you put all that together and like, because see, and then the other weird thing is this has become political. Like what you're saying, what we are talking about is like right wing, right? And I'm like, what? How did that happen? Well, like getting married and having kids while it's like, so that you have the rest of your life together and you, is that, that's political? That makes sense. I know.

Somehow it got switched because I was considered myself in 90s liberal and then now that's considered conservative right I don't know what happened I'm still a 90s liberal in my head man like I don't know what the label means I can't I don't know what the label means but I think that yeah we got to shame these whores I think that's a great place to in fact I think that should be the title of the episode yeah we got to shame these horses in horse all right well we have some horse We are going to ask you questions from our supporters. I'm sure they're even more ridiculous than the ones we've submitted.

So that will be on the Triggerpot.orgot. You can't subscribe. Before we do, though, question we always end with. What's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be? And, you know, we've covered hope. Yeah, the aliens. The fucking aliens, not the illegals. Right.

I'm telling you, man. I don't know if you've heard about David Rush. Yes. Going in front of Congress, testifying that UAPs are real. They're inter-dimensional. and what have you. Now, what the f f f is going on with this? What is this game?

Is this a theater that the government is having? Is it actual disclosure or are they're really telling us that there are UAPs, that there are aliens, but then they want plausible deniability? So then they have a guy like David Greshko on there and go like, there's all these backdoor programs. We never knew about it. Or whatever, the government doesn't know about it.

What the fuck is this? Do you guys even know I'm trying out because I know it's like not No, I know You Americans love Yeah Do you know like 80? I don't know if this is true

Someone fact check me But I think like 80% of alien sightings Are in North America Oh yes And I don't think that's because The aliens love America that much What do you think it is? The drugs, our drugs are better

I don't, we love this country Yeah And we love Americans But let's be honest, right? You are the descendants of all the crazy people people that left Europe. Right?

And you went over here and you created an amazing country out of thin, in a year, we'll skip over the Native American. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? And your whole thing is like, anything is possible. So you're like, anything's possible. What if there's aliens?

What if there's this? Americans fucking love conspiracies in the way that no one else does. We do because we know them to be true. Yeah. Watergate. We have a distrust in our own system. Right. Because they've proven us, they've proven to us that they're

bags. So that's why I find intriguing. Aliens. All right. Head on over to triggerpod.co.c. where we continue the conversation. How significant was the comedian outlook on life in dealing with cancer?