TRIGGERnometry - Rob Schneider: I'm So Happy He Won

Episode Date: November 10, 2024

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So this was an astounding achievement. I guess the left went so far left, they left the American people behind. It's so funny that they accused Trump of being racist. The people that helped him win were black men and Hispanics. Yeah, but they've got internalized whiteness, so that's what it is. You could not critique Biden. You could not make fun of Biden's age. How dare you?

He is our president. He's not brain impaired until we say he's brain impaired. This is our Ronald Reagan. He's the most powerful political figure in over a century in America. And that's done because the Democrats gave him that gift. Rob Snyder, welcome to Trigonometry. Well, thank you so much for having me. You look happy. I am happy. It is a joyous time in my nation. And for the world.

Yeah, the Trump victory was just a phenomenal achievement. an incredible, the greatest comeback in political, American political history. It's a stunning achievement. Most importantly, it's a stunning rebuke for this authoritarian narcissistic crap that America's been having to deal with for the last few years. And so you'll have to excuse me if I am extremely enjoying this moment in time. That's been great. Yeah.

Yeah. And you switched parties about 10 years ago, right? Yeah. I mean, if you're not a liberal in your 20s, you know what they say, you're heartless, but if you're still a liberal in your 50s, you're an idiot. And I just never understood. I just assumed, I realized that the Democratic Party goes out of its way to try to help people when they have no power to do anything.

So nothing gets done. But there's this feeling that they are so. supporting you somehow. And I think that's what happens, you know, to people who still support the party. And then there's a super elites, you know, like it's so, it is wonderful to see, to, to enjoy, for me, having lived here and been through this kind of elitist, you know, crying and complaining and Oprah Winfrey saying, we're going to have the democracies over if we don't elect Kamalo who had not it wasn't democratically chosen to be the Democratic Party nomination for

nominee for president you know and Robert De Niro saying you know threatening him and it's just it's nice to know that none of that worked and and these people are so rich and they have so much money and power that they can avoid the very real life consequences of democratic policies of the last few years with open borders, which were simply open to just moving people, you know, in the middle of the night, you know, no one's doing anything good in the middle of the night, you know, flying people. I don't know. I can think of a few things to have fun in the, you know, but I take your point.

But it was just for forever power. And it was like, we're just going to have, like California, we're going to have a super majority of Democrats. And there will be a choice. Which Democrat do you want? I mean, you're going to have a choice in this one or this one. you'll have choice of these. But so it was really becoming close to being the Republican Party,

which I found appalling, you know, in my youth, but where the Democrat, the Republican Party would be a forever minority party. And that was the plan. And truthfully, the Republicans in Congress, they love to, you know, as long as they, 93% reelection rate, they're happy to even lose. So this was an astounding achievement, because I think we were the, I guess the left went so far left. They left the American people behind.

And so their policies, which they wouldn't even mention. I mean, Kamala Harris, who was the, she says she's the law and order district attorney for California. She wouldn't back a bill that's 36, which passed very, you know, with the tremendous numbers here in California, which is basically to just, if you steal something, shoplift, they have to prosecute you. I mean, it doesn't seem that complicated. But this week, you know, the day before the election, she just said, I'm not going to comment on that. So we didn't, you know, how are you against that? So you really have, you know, like one remaining Walgreens in San Francisco.

And anytime you try to buy anything in a store, it's like, excuse me, can I get somebody to unlock the bananas so that I can get, you? You can't live your life that way. So I don't even know how Democrats can, you know, there's this woman practically in tears on the plane that I, flu here, and I was just trying to console her, because I think it's going to have to be the Republicans that put on the big boy pants here, and it's going to have to be the reconciliation party and the party that reaches out to the other side and the party that doesn't do the lawfare and vindictiveness. I think that's going to have to be, I met with a, you know, I went to Washington, D.C., met with the congressmen to start talking and have legislation now to make sure that if any, any

lawfare on the state level for any, whether it's a senator, any federally elected official, including past or present, vice presidents or president. And if it's at the state level, which could be corrupted as we saw what happened in New York City with Donald Trump, it's automatically jumped up to the federal. So you can have a fair case. So you can still bring charges against somebody. But at least it's taken out of the, you know, the political realm as much as possible. And that's what we're going to have to do things like that to move things.

peacefully forward in this country. France, can I just finish this? You said that, you know, the Churchill quote, I think it's Churchill about the liberal when you're young and et cetera. I think so, yeah. Is that really true though, Rob? Because one of the things that strikes me

is I don't know how much you've changed, you tell me, but I think the Democrats have changed dramatically. They have, yeah. So when you were still voting for them, they were pro-border security and all of these other issues. They were many, many of them

to the right of where Donald Trump is now. So is it that you got old and conservative or is it that they were like you said they went so far to the left, they left the country behind? They did. And also there was just in California, you have, there is not one aspect of your life that this administration and understand the Democrats have been in charge for 12 of the last 16 years. So there literally was nothing, no part of your life, whether it's your kid's school, where they literally, you know, Gavin Newsom passed a law that if your kid was claimed, or was, you know, there's a lot of the social contagion

of gender dysphoria, which is a very delicate time for any youth at a time. And there's also a percentage of kids that are on the spectrum who could fall prey to this gender dysphoria and it's a contagion or gender contagion in society. And so they passed a law that if you can't tell the parents. So I didn't sign up to co-parent with the state of Cal

You know, I mean, it's my kid, my wife's kid, we're going to do it. So we got the hell out of here. As I say, my act, you know, it's a very Rodney Dangerfield style joke. Hey, it's dangerous taking your kids in public school in California, you know, in the morning you drop off a girl. And the afternoon you pick up a boy. You know what I'm saying? It's dangerous, hey. But it's not that exaggerated. I do feel it's, so they did. And there was even legislation here. It was a joke of mine that went, I thought about it for a year of the joke. And it just, It kind of crystallized finally as I was driving my car, because sometimes you can take something and try to complicate it, but the more simple you can get the joke, but it was about slave reparations.

Because it passed committee, they don't know how to do it, but it passed committee, they don't know what they're going to do, and Gavin Newsom did agree to sign the bill for slave reparations. And it's like, so the state of California wants to pay money, pay people who were never slaves to be paid for by people who never owned slaves. that never had slaves. They said, that's like paying child support for a child you never had to a woman you never fucked.

And it just, you know, it just kind of very, it just gets to the point. People kind of get it. And so, but I think so the Democrats have been able to, I think the best comedy now is more conservative based because you have to go against the power base. The power base has been this illiberal liberal liberalism that I just don't feel like it speaks

to the average person. The first time I came to the city was in 2002 and it was completely different. When was a moment for you where you started to notice things going awry? Well, it was having to do with medical freedom of parents and the kind of the tightening the noose for the pharma industry. Big Pharma is a real problem in the United States. The power of big pharma, like I tell this to people. In California, well, everywhere.

I say, like, you take the Mexican drug cartels, and they make maybe $10 billion, roughly, maybe on a good year, $15, $20, and that goes a long way in pesos. However, you take a look at the pharma industry just for the vaccine industry, it's $350 billion. It really is, and then they want to get it up to $750 billion

by the end of the decade, and that's just this particular group of drugs, and they make it mandatory, for you and that there's and what they did in COVID was they make it there's no liability as a matter of fact Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson and what is the other one? Moderna. Moderna and there's another one. AstraZeneca.

AstraZeneca. ExtraZeneca. Thank you. They would not go into a country unless they were given blanket immunity from liability for the harm of these drugs. So they know something's up with it and they didn't want to release the information because If the state's paying for it, this is American's property. So you have to, that's what we have the freedom of information.

I know you guys have that too in the UK. So you have to turn over these papers. And what they tried to do was in the FDA. And that's what we have a captured agency by industry, the revolving door between industry and agency. You could be at the head of the Merck Division for vaccines. And then the next thing, you know, you could be at the FDA. and then you could leave and then go. So there's, there's, and the, the FDA is funded primarily by,

uh, the drug industry. So in this is if you have a new drug, you have to spend what's $50,000 for just the application and the application for drug fees is what funds it. And then you also do your own research. You want you do your own studies to find out of its safety. So it's basically letting the, um, the fox and the hen house. So there needs to be some, some, uh, firewall. And that's Robert Kennedy and I have talked about for years is to have a firewall so that you can do what's best to protect the people. I mean, these agencies have to be for the protection of people and to benefit the United States citizens and their children. So I saw the encroachment where pharma would actually write the new rules for the medical boards and the medical boards,

because the big pharma pays, if you look at the biggest contributors for all political, for all political parties and for political candidates, whether it's at the state, liberal, federal, you'd be shocked that the majority of it is coming for pharma. Wow. It's just too much power. So they're able to have a stranglehold. And it's also a stranglehold in our economy. We spend five times more for our drugs here than they do in Europe, and we're not getting

the same results. So I think one of the things that Kennedy's talked about, Robert Kennedy's talked about, is there's only two countries that allow straight to consumer advertising. of drugs and it's like, and it is, it's just us in New Zealand. Well, New Zealand, you can understand why they would do it down there. They're so far away from people on there, and they're very nervous and cold, so close to the Antarctica. But we, so that's going to be a big deal, because 75% of all advertising, when they say Pfizer, the news, Anderson Cooper brought to you by Pfizer. That's because Pfizer is paying Anderson Cooper $20 million. So that is, that's affecting the news.

So that they have to, those tentacles have to be taken off one by one. And so that we can have a chance to kind of undo the damage that the pharma has done. So that's what got me involved originally in it. And it's, you know, the party in power in California, you know, they want to control what kind of a car you drive. They have. legislation it didn't pass but it was proposed to limit your car to go only 80 miles an hour and me say I look I don't want to drive more than 80 miles an hour in a school zone but however on the highway if I'm going to go up to San Francisco I want to go more than 80 if I get a ticket I'll deal with it but the fact that the Democrats want to control every aspect of your

life and the fact that they you know they want to hide things from your kids hide things from parents between the kids and their teachers I think is unethical and I think that that's A bridge too far. And I think even, so the American public rejected it. They reject boys in girls' sports. Is it narcissistic, a failed male athletes should not find refuge because they can't beat other guys in girl sports. I mean, hey, I would have loved to have done it. I'll be honest with you. No sports trophies in my house, not one. You know, what you're sort of talking about here is you're saying in many ways that California was descending into authoritarianism. Yes, absolutely. Well, if you go too far left, you go too far right, you end up what you really end up with, they're back to back and it's totalitarianism, whether it's from the left or from the right. It ends up being a power grab. And the interesting thing about the United States was the division of powers. I mean, we really, and that's why, you know, for all the people screaming that Trump is going to become a dictator, he wasn't the first time. And he did leave the first time. I mean, he wasn't happy about leaving.

He certainly didn't want to. He certainly made some phone calls to prevent leaving. But at the end of the day, he did leave. So you have the three-legged milk stools, what I call it, with the executive judicial and the legislative. Now, the problems happened, though, is after 9-11 and the attack on America, you had the Twin Towers falling down and the 2,000-odd people dying. We had a thing called the Patriot Act,

which subverted the authority. And basically not subverted, but it was happily given from the legislative to the executive. So they basically abdicated their lawmaking powers to the executive so that the executive of the president could have a clear hand. And since has been, you know, ruling like an emperor. And that happened. And it's been both parties don't want to give that power up. And it was just approved again under the Democrats. And I don't think the Republicans are going to give it up either.

And that has to be rescinded. because the idea of a law, I mean, if there's an emergency, that the president needs to do something, that's fine. But I think you got to go back, I go back to sports. I think just like, you know, in football, if there's a play, you want to have a flag on the play, you want to check the replay. Well, I think the president should get two executive orders a year. That's it two, and you got to, you know, and it still should have to pass some sort of legislative review. Otherwise, like what happened with Biden is he 125 in his first one? week 125 executive orders. So basically it's an emperor. So we're hiring an emperor. And there really

isn't the checks and balances. And it's really both parties. They have to go back again, undo the Patriot Act, which also spies on Americans. And we have to, you know, stop these forever wars. And so, you know, I was excited about the potential to have Trump reelected to get out of this. I mean, the Democratic Party moved towards these warfare. became, it's really interesting that the people who supported Kamala Harris and Tim Walls was Dick Cheney, who the Democrats 20 years ago called a war, correctly called a war criminal and, you know, his war mongering little daughter. And they, you know, and also Vladimir Putin also was a Kamala supporter. I don't think they really publicized that too well. But,

so I think we have to move away from that. We have to get away from that. And, and, stop spending our, you know, because when you keep spending money, and it's like the people, the movie stars and the people who supported Kamala Harris, they don't know what it's like to be an average American, like me. I didn't fly private here. I didn't fly. Did you fly Spirit Airlines? It wasn't a normal jet, but I had, it was like eight rich people. Yeah. Just one rich because I'm not the Uber rich. I'm just kind of rich. But the average person in America has less than $1,000 in the bank. You're talking about 80% of America. So when you raise, when you just print a bunch of money or you give $100 billion to Ukraine, you are, and you're

printing that money, you're causing this inflation. And inflation went up 26% in the last four years. And that, I mean, people had to choose between groceries or buying gas for their car. And it's just put a real burden on the backs of hardworking Americans. So we're just struggling to get by. So we have, there are people, that's why it was such an across-the-board. That's why you had, it was so funny that they accused Trump of being racist and sexist when the people that helped him win were black men and Hispanics. Yeah, but they've got internalized whiteness, so that's what it is. So it is, and you're right about that. Yeah, they're the black face of white supremacy. The black face of white supremacy. Isn't that a beautiful thing? Isn't that incredible? Because

if you put that in your script or in the movie, they go, no, no one's going to buy that. Well, that's the American dream. Even black people can be white supremacists. And be only thing you want in this country. It really is. It's like, so it really, it comes down to, you have free choice as long as you agree with us. Yeah. And we own these minorities. This is our voting block. We have them. Stay away from them. And if you don't, and if you're, and if you're, in that and you no longer, if you're Thomas Seoul and you're African-American and you think differently and you find yourself in conflict with these liberals who aren't so liberal, you're a race trader. You're not just someone who thinks differently. So I'm hopeful that the Democratic Party will see the error of their ways and regroup.

This is an opportunity. It's a good day for them. I hope they keep losing, to be honest with you. But the power, now the power shifts. It's Now my comedy is going to have to shift also to what the Republicans do. It has to be whoever the power base is, there's going to be an abuse. There's a potential for abuse. So, I mean, I do hope we only get two parties. We tried with Robert Kennedy to have a third party. But you can say what you want about the arrests and the indictments on President Trump,

which will all be thrown out this week, or the first week that he's in office. Rightfully so, in my opinion. We have to keep moving forward. But they did. So seven against Trump, ten. against Kennedy. So the, you know, the Democrats don't, nobody wants a third party, even the Republicans don't. So they, what the media does, and the media also needs a spanking from this, and they need to come back to a place where they represent the American people. You can see how

far the polls were off. And, you know, the slandering with the Atlantic is a shit magazine. The New York Times, the Washington Post, no one wants to read that outside that small little circle of a several block area of New York City and a little bit places in Bel Air and the gated communities in Los Angeles. Nobody gives a shit about the LA Times. Nobody gives a shit about the New York Times. It is no longer, I would never pay a penny. When they asked, would you like to a dollar a month? I wouldn't give you a penny a month. You couldn't pay me a dollar a month. Read that shit. Because it is no longer an objective news organization. Well, here's the interesting thing, though, because Jeff Bezos has came out and actually said what the Washington Post is doing isn't actually,

you know, is no longer working. They need to reshape. They need to move forward. They need to, they need to catch up with current times. And you're thinking, whatever you think about him, you can't deny the guy's a smart businessman. He is, he is, but it's a little late to the party, isn't it, though? I mean, he just did it like two weeks ago. He didn't do it two years ago. So I would say that if it was still, you know, a hegemony of ill. liberal liberal media giants, they would continue it. I mean, he wouldn't, but, but they are privy to information that I'm privy to as anybody who's, who wants to get inside information on the inside tracks. And it wasn't that hard to get inside information what was going to happen in this election.

That's why Zuckerberg apologized a month ago. He wanted to get out in front of it. As soon as he apologized, Jeff Bezos, and the same thing with the New York Times, if you're going to be a newspaper, if you're going to attempt to, to present something that is, uh, objective in nature. And sure, it's going to always lean left. But it was a grievance newspaper at a certain point trying to make people feel like shit. And that's the thing that pissed off Americans was not only did they, they thumbed their nose and they had disdain for us. They called us garbage. And they mean that as Trump supporters. You know, it was deplorable garbage. And then Mark Cuban last week, I mean, talk about own goals the Democrats kicked here. Mark Cuban calling

Trump's women unintelligent and not strong. I mean, whenever that happened, it was like, yeah, that's another million votes. We just, we got North Carolina for sure now. And then, you know, the great gift, the

best gaff of the entire election was Joe Biden. See, he's, why they're letting him on TV? They could have been a phone call. They could have been, you know, said, the only garbage I see of these, or supporters and it was so beautiful how the White House tried to cover that wasn't it

they said no there was an apostrophe and they called it an apostrophe gate he said no no no he didn't mean like the supporters are garbage he meant the garbage that's coming from specific a supporter and it just fell on deaf ears and it was just more of the same I mean he's calling us garbage he was just calling his white supremacist uba maga muga ultra maga and these are Americans these are Americans you just want to get by and then get the government out of their life. I mean, you really have something that I didn't think was possible was we have another Reagan, another Ronald Reagan, who now has a mandate. This is our Ronald Reagan.

He is. He's the most powerful, he's the most powerful political figure in over a century in America. And that's done because the Democrats gave him that gift. Do you think that he is going to be able to enact everything that he's promised, or even 50 percent? That's laughable. No, but I do think he'll be able to get some of it in. First thing he's going to have to do is fulfill his promise about energy and immigration. And I think the immigration is impossible, and it's impossible for several reasons. He will have to make an attempt.

I mean, no one's going to argue about kicking out criminals and murders. I mean, that was a thing that, like, is laughable, that ICE, which is this organization, that the Biden-Harris administration just shit on. Basically, the immigration and enforcement. I mean, these are the people that are doing the hard work of the, and then having to deal with the real life, you know, problems from this liberal party that they're allowing this open borders and all the mess that's happening.

So I said to very, a month to go in the, in the election, a little bit more than a month in September, they released information about all the murders and all the criminals they came in. And that was not an accident. They were saying, fuck this. This is, now you're gonna have to deal with this. And that was it.

At that point, I knew the election was over. I knew it was just a matter of of just not doing our own goals. And there's, you know, what the policies are good under Trump. It's just the form in which he presents them. It's hard to stomach. Well, the point you were going to make, I think, about immigration, and I think it's a really interesting conversation is deporting the criminals. Yeah.

No one is going to disagree with that. Closing the inflow. That's going to not be a problem, yeah. No one's going to disagree with that. However, if you're going to get into families and breaking up families, if you're going to, how are you going to do it? And first of all, I would just say, I would give Trump an out. It's too expensive. And truthfully, we need immigration in this country.

We do. It's just nice to know who they are and are they coming in and say, you know, and have an idea of where they came from and what their plans are. Well, if someone's coming to your house for dinner, you kind of want to make sure that they're the people that you want there, right? Yeah. But I think your point is the immigration conversation gets difficult and painful because I don't think even speaking to people who are on the right who are part of the Trump movement. I don't think there's much appetite. You're going to get some media on Twitter saying, you know, get them all out and whatever. But most people don't want to see families where you've got American children and grandmise living who came here legally, like all of them deported.

I would be against it. I think most people in this country. Whatever small impact I have in this administration, which is zero. But no, I'd be against that because I also think that there's an out for Trump. It's too expensive. I don't want to spend the money. These people are going to work and we're just going to stop the flow and the criminals are going to get out. and then move on quickly.

So do you legalize the people? I think they have to have a road to, I mean, they have to have a road to some sort of legal status. And I think you need it. I think you have to have it. And I think the idea of America is, must be give us your poor, give us your weak, give us your downtrodden.

And we'll make grateful citizens of them. because of the opportunities at this. I mean, my wife's Mexican, and the Mexican people who come here are the hardest working. I mean, you can, if you stop the Mexican workers here, this country will shut down. It will not operate.

And these are jobs that, you know, to be quite frank, that not all of them, but there's a lot of jobs that people, natural-born American citizens don't want. and we need workers and we need people to come in. I'd like to know who's coming in from China. You know, military aid people coming in from North Africa and Syria, China, that has to stop. And everyone will agree with that.

But we cannot, as a country, as a country, we cannot afford to, and all, you know, I would say money first. That's an out for the Trump. We can't afford these people. It's too expensive. I want to kick him up, but he can't. But also, I just think it would be heartless, and I don't think we're not going to be knocking down doors.

And that was the thing about the Democrats that were really, was terrible, was that the Democrats were knocking down doors and arresting people. And January 6th, that was not an insurrection, and the whole idea that that was going to win, they were going to win the election on that and abortion,

was roundly rejected by the American people. It was it ugly? Was it regret? Was it a horrible day? Absolutely. Was it a guided tour by the FBI? Probably. It was like a Disney ride. They dressed the FBI. When they asked the FBI, the head of the FBI at the congressional hearings, because that's all we had. We didn't have the Senate. So the Senate didn't give a fuck what happened that day. To really get to the bottom of it, when they asked the head of the FBI, I'm blanking on his name, they said, were there any FBI agents that were disguised as Trump supporters that day leading the people and he said, I'm not, I will not, I can't answer that question. He said, you can't answer it. It's no. It's no where there were. And so that's the kind of thing that has to, that was egregious. Again, it was just too far. I mean, it's a kind of entrapment. Like there's this incredible case that the FBI did,

which was absolutely stunning, where they, they set up and they've got these, these people who are down and out in Michigan, poor guys, and set them up to, hey, wouldn't it be a great idea? And they pretended to be these other militiamen, why don't we kidnap? Why don't you kidnap the governor, Governor Whitmer of Michigan?

And it was all set up. It was all a complete setup from the government. And luckily, that got thrown out. So it's like, what are you doing? Just, I mean, go after crime. Don't go after real Americans. But there was a point where the Democrats wanted to show these, you know, like the,

that they said for years, the most dangerous thing in America, these terrorists, these white supremacists. He's like, you know, and Obama's lie, continuing to lie about there's good people on both sides. He did not say that. It's been debunked. It's been debunked by liberal sources. And yet these assholes are still saying the same crap. So luckily, I think we're in a better place.

It was roundly rejected. So how do you move forward? And will he get his stuff across? I think he'll do some of it. I think he's going to do it. moderately, I don't think he's going to do anything too crazy. I don't think he wants to mess with the markets. Well, one of the things that is very reassuring to me about this situation now

is that he's got not only the mandate from the electoral college, but the popular vote. He's got the Senate. As we're recording this, we don't know what the situation with the House. He could have all three. He'll have, by the time this airs, he will have the House. We'll know by the weekend. And I think he'll have a slim majority. Well, let's say he has all of that.

And on top of that, this was the election when the media dominance of the conversation ended. So he doesn't have to give a shit anymore. He's not running for election, number one. But more than that, he doesn't have to give a shit with the New York Times thing. And so my... He still cares, though.

Isn't that cute? He wants to be loved by everybody. And I tell people, I said, you're not going to have Donald Trump. Don't worry about Donald Trump coming over to your house for tea. He's not going to come over for crumpets or whatever you Englishmen eat. He's not going to come for your bar mitzvah, your kids bar mitzvah. He's not coming for the Thanksgiving dinner.

He is going to be like the plumber. You know what everything? The pipes are breaking and everything. You're not going to do it. Somebody's going to do it. He's going to, you know, he's in a bigger way. He's going to be that. But he's got good people.

I talked to Don Jr., his son. And I said, you know, he didn't have good people around him the first time. and Don admitted, yes, he trusted. I mean, you have to hire like 10,000 people. And he didn't have the best people around him. He admits that John Bolton is this horrible war hawk that it will have nothing to do with this administration. And I also hope that Pompeo doesn't as well.

I'm worried about that because I think he's another guy who's just a warhawk. We've got to get out of wars. We need to get people that are not going to be that gung-ho about it. So, I mean, I think it's a good thing he still wants to be like by the New York Times. He still wants to be loved by that. But he's not going to have to worry about re-election.

So I think he's going to worry about his legacy. Well, yeah, and that's what I'm saying. I just think he has a chance. The American people have spoken. And he has a chance to deliver the things that they ask for. Yeah. And if he just did that and he didn't worry about the headlines and he didn't worry about the name-calling,

you know, and didn't feel that he had to destroy everyone who comes after him, he could just do the things that he promised to do. And if he did that, I suspect he would change the course of history. He really would because not only would he show Americans that this was possible and he would hand over the presidency to whoever his success is going to be. Because if he delivers on his policies, why would anyone vote for anyone else, right? Well, exactly right. And then also, Rob, and this is, you know, for us is important. He could show the entire Western world.

You don't have to continue going down this path. Well, it is a reckless path of this idea. of the global elites and a one-world government. And we have to maintain, if we've, if we continue going down this path, it's, as Douglas Murray says, it's the Western civilization committing suicide. I mean, when you have now the majority of people in Brussels, Belgium, they're no longer Belgique, but they're foreign-born. You really are.

This whole replacement theory is another conspiracy theory that six months later, two years later, has become fact. So I think it's important that we- Hang on a set, Rob, but when we- say the good replacement theory what are we actually talking about because there's an aspect of it which is like jews want to replace white people with muslims in europe and that is obviously well that's crazy yeah that's crazy but that's what some people need but jews are famously pro muslim yeah it's all yeah well you have to be careful with any grandiose statements you just got to look at the

numbers and i would just say also the the thing that's unique about this incredible system. I mean, it ain't perfect. I mean, our founding fathers, when they said, they didn't say, we're, we joined together to make a perfect system. No, a better one. That's all. They wanted to have a better one. With the checks and balances, if you read the Federalist papers, you know, what Madison really wanted to do was to create a, a system that was hard to, uh, to subvert into tyranny. And I think he did a pretty good job with it. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. But what we have, um, is, is our sovereignty. And that was the biggest thing for me.

The biggest worry that I had was the Biden administration, wanted to give over sovereignty, whether it's to the World Health Organization, which Trump towards the end of his first run, got us out of that because he saw what was being run by China and also run by Bill Gates.

It was just funding that organization. So, you know, Bill Gates has too much power. It has to be, you know, and we can't have our sovereignty or any nation's society. We want to keep the individual cultures and what they've developed over hundreds of thousands of years. We want to keep the Gauls French, you know.

We want to keep the Swedes, Swedes. What's happening is if you're having people come into your society with a spoken plan to subvert your society, you can't bring people into your country who hate you. You can't bring people into your country that want to destroy your country and that will not assimilate. And I will say that,

the United States seems to be unique in the sense that there's just, I don't know if it's just because there's just so much potential to make money and improve your lives, that it subverts people's religious fervor and you want to, and you have a chance here to really become successful. And that's why communism never really took a foothold here. And that's what I was worried about with this, with the Democrats, we're moving more towards this Marxist in the name of woke, which if he, all these Trojan horse terms that Andrew, um, Doyle speaks about. It's true. These are, you know, social justice, as Thomas Sowell says, sounds great. When you open it up, hey, that's grievance. That's revenge. These are people that's envy.

These are people that are angry and that want to, you know, revenge on everybody else. So these trojan horse terms, um, but we're adopted by the, the Democrats and never, uh, wanting to power grab. And it seemed like they were just punishing the average person. So, um, I think it was important that there was a pushback against that and a real rejection. And I hope we can go back to where these countries will reclaim their sovereignty. And hopefully only have people, people in the United States get subverted to the system. And they become and they assimilate. So that's happened so far.

And so while it's imperfect and why capitalism also leaves people behind, it does afford one to improve your life and to improve the life of your children. And that's everything. And so communism didn't take over there. However, the Marxists knew that the worker in the West, it was never going to happen. The Marxist revolution was never going to happen. And there were two revolutions from Marx, I'm sorry, from Mao, 1949, but then the Cultural Revolution in 1966. And that was specifically to get rid of the four olds, he called it, which was habits, traditions, culture. and I'm blanking it one more.

It would be a religion? It's tradition, religion, rituals, and religion, you know, religion for sure, but I think that was pretty much gone by 66. So what Marxists had to do was to sneak in through education and subvert the society through the education. They've been very successful at that now, through the university and then going up into K through 12. And it really is to cause so much, I think the plan is to cause so much grievance and so much chaos that people, and I think the Democrats are part of this too, were trying to cause so much chaos that they'd be willing to give up their liberties for just some sense of calm.

So that's why when you have like girls, you know, sports and boys and girls' locker rooms, and then you have, you know, people, the boys and the, you know, the trans issue. And then you have open borders. You just have this crazy chaos where people say, enough, what do we got to do? What liberties do I have to give up so I can have some sense of calm? This is Euphoria Calvin Klein, the new elixir collection, featuring three perfume intense scents, inspired by a unique orchid accord, paired with vanilla, each with its own distinct attitude, each with its own universe, bold elixir, sensual, woody, addictive, magnetic elixir, sweet and romantic like a lingering touch, solar elixir, a radiant expression of joy, ultra-concentrated for amplified impact and lasting power.

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resentment, because I've started to see this creep into comedy and you must have seen this because you were doing what Saturday Night Live in 1990 when it was a completely different world. How do you see Hollywood then and Hollywood on Hollywood now? Well, I think that there when people would watch something and complain about it on Saturday Night Live, like we did a sketch about Bill Clinton where Julia Sweeney, one of the, played Chelsea Clinton as a 13, she was 13 at the time, Chelsea Clinton. And we put braces on her like, you know, like that. And people were furious like leave the kids alone you know this is before the democrats would you know say mean things about barren trump of course so that was like off limits um and uh but at the same time you have to go

over to people who are in power so but but there were people you know have you ever written to a tv show and said complaint no exactly you're a crazy person do that however on twitter it's just this and then send and so the idea of which is that you know that you know that you know know, social media is relatively new. So the idea for companies and advertisers are just, you know, particularly, they're not immune to this pressure. And so if they get like, you know, 15 or 20 or 30 of these things, they could think it's 300. Or if they get 300, they can think it's 300, or if they get 300, they think it's 3,000 complaints and all of a sudden they worry about their brand. So, I mean, we didn't have that pressure then, but they do now. So that's why when, when

And the most wonderful thing that's happened, and I think one of the reasons why Trump was so successful, is because the last bastion in tech companies for free speech is Twitter. So when Elon bought Twitter for $44 billion, interestingly, the Democrats or the liberals knew that he was going to, you know, light them up. They saw all the signs, and they didn't want him to have the power. But they still took the money. They still took the, because they're horrors. And at the end of the day, the Democrat whores took every fucking penny of that 44 billion. And they were very happy to take it and go, you know, and their thought, well, go ahead, destroy Western civilization.

I'll build a big fence and I'll be fine in here next to Oprah. And, you know, and George Clooney will have our, we'll be okay. We'll build a bigger fence. So luckily, that free speech was where people like myself could actually critique the government. And that free speech is really unfettered free speech. It's to protect the bad stuff. And it's been amazing because I've gone to universities with Charlie Kirk and I've gone and spoken to people because they stopped teaching.

They stopped teaching civics in school, how our government run. And I don't think that's an accident. The government doesn't want you to know Americans how their government runs. And so they don't really talk about free speech, but, you know, free speech isn't just to protect the stuff that you like. It's the ugly stuff. It's the socially acceptable stuff doesn't need protection. It's the lies. You know, it's the stuff that's offensive. That's what needs protection. And then let the people decide what's the truth and what's not the truth. But I quite agree. But let's go back to the Hollywood point because as somebody who's a huge fan of comedy and grew up with comedy movies. It's a waste land. It is an absolute wasteland. Tell us. Well, because the fear of the comedy now and the fear of being excommunicated, it really is. What happens? Peter Burgosian talks about this with the left. And there really is a religious architecture in their thinking, whether they're religious or not. It has that architecture and a belief system. When you challenge somebody's belief system, they get really angry. It's a fundamentalist Christian, fundamentalist Islamic, or a fundamentalist Democrat. They get angry. And so, you know, it was very interesting because during the, you know, during the scam-demic, as I call it, which was, and I'm a believe in a second. Why is this pandemic?

Is one of the most deadly pandemics in human history? It killed millions of people around. Okay. Well, first of all, the death rate of that, we have to look at the numbers for this. What was the death rate? Do you know what the death rate was in the United States? I do not. Okay, it's 0.3.

That is about the same as a flu. And they said there were no flus. They said nobody died of the flu that year. Why? Because people wore masks. And they said, why come they died of COVID? Well, because masks don't work. So at a certain point, we have to look at the evidence.

We have to make our decisions that are evidence-based. So when I say it was a scam, it was a scam, because Trump was lied to. He was lied to by the CDC. He was lied to by Fauci. He was lied to by Redmond. He was lied to by Birx. These are the people in the health agencies. They said, if you don't do this, you're not going to

get reelected, four million people, Americans are going to die, and you're going to be blamed for it. And so he caved. No, but I, sorry, just I don't understand. I'm, I'm not even arguing with you. I just want to clarify what you're saying. Which part of it was the scam part? The scam was, that's been confirmed that, you know, the six feet distance was just made up that. Oh, lots of things we were told. Yeah. And that the vaccine was going to be effective, and it wasn't. It wasn't. It was going to be effective for preventing illness. And you can't give it. You can't get it. You can't give it.

You can't get it. And once you get it, you can't, then you're going to save grandma. And locking down schools was more detrimental to people. So we're agreed on all. That's a scam. Because again, this is like one of those terms like the Great Replacement. There is people who mean that there's a lot of immigration and now many cities in Western Europe are not European anymore, demographically.

And there's other people who have another layer on top of it. I don't have that layer. But I would just say to this, like the people who died, the people who are, most susceptible or like the people most susceptible to any flus. Totally. These are people that in the United States, the people who died, 80% were, were obese, were morbidly obese, and they had 3.4, 3.4 comorbidities. All of this stuff, I agree with you. So this is what caused the death of this. And it was, you know, it was something that was manipulated. I had a friend of mine at the NIH, the National Institutes of Health, and I talked to him July 3rd in 2020, and I said, tell me what's

happening. And he said to me, and it's in my book, you can do it, which is, you can do it. And the subtitle is scam, demic. The real truth. He said to me that, I said, what is going on? Because he was hired by the government to go to the NIH. He's a professor of medicine. I won't use his name, but he said, receptor 26 looks a little sticky. And I said, what is that? And he said, it seems to be man-made or manipulated. Sure. And so what happened was it was able to, this thing was, they basically, these sick bastards wanted to, they were shut down from these gain of research study here in the United States.

And they said, well, and they kept doing it anyway in the Ukraine, incidentally, and they also kept doing it in Wuhan, and was paid by Fauci after Obama had shut it down. And they kept it going. And so it was manipulated and then something, you know, it got out. Just like they were transporting, the CDC was transporting anthrax and some other, and the smallpox in these little containers and the fucking van crashed. And that was luckily that it didn't cause a big gigantic epidemic. But the idea is, dude, we can't, we have to be evidence-based on all this.

Totally agreed. I just, the reason I picked up on it is I just want to clarify, because a lot of people who hear the term scam-demic, what they think is you're saying nobody died, there was no disease, et cetera, right? Well, the people that, no, the people that died, the people most susceptible was interesting because there were different strains of it.

So in Italy you had, in the beginning of it, you had people getting very, very sick with a particular type with their blood type that was in Italy. That was very early. That was the beginning of the shutdowns. However, the shutdowns ended up being more harmful in the end, and it was also imperial college.

Agreed. Thanks to you and your country. No, no, no, no, no. It was one dickhead. One dickhead. We're not taking responsibility for it. But that was funded by China. And China would like to, would like nothing more than to shut down this Western style idea of freedom and the exercise of it by our citizenry. Because they don't want China to, they don't want their Chinese citizens knowing that there's a freer world out there. And so we have to have, you know, we have to have. The truth, and we have to make things evidence-based. That's why I'm very excited about Robert Kennedy joining this administration.

Is he going to agree with everything from Trump? No. Is Trump going to try to do some stuff that's probably out of bounds? Absolutely. Is he going to accomplish it? Hopefully not. Can we have some normalcy? I would hope so.

I do think that as a guy who got shot in the face, I would think there is some humility there. I don't see the same Trump as I saw before. And I think he is concerned about his legacy. I like Tulsi Gabbard a lot. I got to spend some time with her. I got to spend some time with Vivek Ramoswami. Robert Kennedy is a dear, dear friend and a lovely human being. And I just don't think that, and I really like Vance.

So I think there's some good people there. Yeah. And I think they're going to want to do good things. And I think they're also, the American people are expecting good things. I think they need good things. I think it's been such a tough time for the American people. It has. And it's been a time where, I mean, I really felt the stress and the strain of people

because I'm traveling, you know. Not on private planes. I'm traveling and I'm talking to people out there and I'm going to places and I stay after. And sometimes I took questions in Florida after a show. I said, what are you feeling? And everyone is so stressed out in their tents. So that's what the beautiful thing about this mandate of a victory. And the fact that he, the reason why there's no.

fires and there's no protests and they're not burning Seattle. One, the cops shut it down pretty quickly and a small little riot there yesterday, but, or I'm sorry, a few days ago, but also it's a mandate. He got the popular vote. So they can't be pissed. So they got to look at themselves. And what happened after when Reagan was elected two terms and then it was Bush, it was three terms. And that's what's going to have to happen so that the Democrats can lose their extremists. And then you end up with a moderate like Bill Clinton. You know, I'm a pro-death penalty, Bill Clinton, you know, what the meaning of the word is is.

But I do think that was a centrist party. That was the only way they could gain power. And the only reason they gained power is because there were three parties at that time. And Ross Barrow took away enough from the Republicans that Clinton got in, which ended up being, you know, I don't think a bad thing for the country. Yeah. It was a good president in many ways. Well, I think it, some good and some bad.

NAFTA was not, it ended up taking away losing American jobs. I think you have to run the course between affordable products, but also who's going to buy those things if no one's making any money? So what happened in the late 1970s was, you know, inflation that kept going up, the job money did no longer keep up with inflation. So what happened was the average worker to keep up with buying homes and buying cars and buying TVs or back then video people. players or Sony beta machines, they had to borrow money from their home. And they lived off that.

But when that collapsed, you had a whole group of people that were just lost. And that collapse happened in 2008. That was something that I think could be prevented again. I think that was about to happen again. And I think the economy, what we saw this week, the first week of President Trump's, his president-elect, you're seeing the stock market response. very favorably, which is going to help everything. The dollar just went up tremendously against everywhere. So I think it's a boost of confidence, and it's going to be a boost of confidence around the world. And coming just with since we started talking about Hollywood, one of the things you obviously experienced is that your opinions weren't popular. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Do you think, this is going to sound like an incredibly naive question, but do you think, do you think these people are now going to look at it and kind of go, oh, maybe maybe, maybe. I was the asshole here. No. I think they're angry. I think they're pissed off. I think people here in Hollywood hate me. They hate me with a passion.

Absolutely. Why? Because in some small way of small group of us, and along with, you know, Alon Musk, God bless him, you know, Robert Kennedy, it was enough to turn the selection. I'm not saying I had very little to do with it, but in some ways that speaking up and supporting Robert Kennedy and then supporting him very, I mean, that's how I knew his third party candidacy was in trouble when I was, you know, his most famous supporter.

Oh man, it's not going to go well for you, Robert. I'm sorry. But I do think, yeah, they don't want, they want the perception as these are, we're doing this for everybody, but they're not. They're absolutely completely out of touch with the average American, what they're. go through. Oprah Winfrey, when she's going and talking about, nobody cared what she said because they know that her life is like, what gave her the opportunity to become a billionaire was this society. And here she is shitting on people trying to make the best out of it. And I would say that that's amazing thing about the United States. The difference between England, in my experience, is that like, people root for you to be fucking rich here. Oh yeah. People don't in the UK. That's why we love America. I mean, we got like, fuck yeah, Oprah, you're a billionaire. Now, now, But I'm telling you, it was getting to a point where people were getting pissed off.

And they showed it at the polls. It's like, you know what? You have everything. These policies that you're allowing at the border and these people coming in, it is not affecting you in your gated mansion with all your security. But it is affecting us. It is affecting the movie stars who don't have tens of millions of dollars. I mean, I've played poverty. I mean, I have like, my gated community only have.

have one guard in my gate. I have nobody in front of my, it's my gate, my five cars, there's only one person guarding it. I mean, somebody could easily come in if it's a Venezuelan gang. And by the way, these Venezuelan gangs, I was writing jokes for Trump with some friends of mine for this, um, Al Smith dinner. And I said, maybe this one's not for Tony Hinchcliff. Is that when Robert Kennedy called me. He said, we should have had you do this. You know, I don't know why we didn't call you instead. There's 300,000 Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania. I hope this doesn't cost us the election.

Sorry, Robert. One of the jokes I said, like, we have these Venezuelan gangs coming over here, taking away victims from American gangs. We need to support American jobs, American gangs. You know, but I don't, it would require a

delivery for him to do that. But I thought he did pretty good. He's funny. That's the thing. When he says I'm going to be dictator, well, maybe on day one, I'll be, you know, that was a joke. Yeah. That was just saying he's going to fucking turn into, you know, Stalin on us. So, but yeah, Hollywood hates me. And that's okay. And I hope that they forgive me. And I hope that I get into a position with my new movie and media company that I'll get to hire them. No grudges. I hold no grudges against anybody in Hollywood. I would happily,

even though I've, you know, I went public against all the late night guys, because it was true. I said, you know, during the, during the pandemic, I'll call a pandemic, sorry, I said. I just set you off. Actually, you didn't set me off. I just think it's worth clarifying the things so people know exactly what you mean. I think so. So they then don't go, oh, he doesn't believe COVID happened or whatever. I think that's, I think you're right to bring that up. And I, you know, I talked about this in my act where I said like, you know, because it was very scary, because they tried to do this before, to close society down before with, what was it called, the pandemic of the 2000 and it was like the swine flu. Right. Oh, SARS. You're talking about.

SARS, yeah. The first thing, they got to shut down, but like 50 people died from the vaccine. They shut it down, whereas they didn't really necessarily care or check to what happened this time. So that's it. And everybody, they didn't fall for it then because they didn't have the phones. They didn't have the information. And you couldn't scare the shit out of people enough with your phones. Remember those signs that we had signs all over the freeway. We said, you know, mask out of America.

Take the fucking shot. You know, save grandma. And the phones were scary every 30 seconds. It was like, oh, no, this guy's parachute didn't open. And he died of COVID. So you kind of show the exaggeration. And I just want, you know, I want people to come from a place of evidence-based next time. Yeah.

And let's make decisions. And I would just say in general, we have to stop this. I mean, I am an opponent now of vaccinology because, and I talk about it in my book, you can do it, available now on Hachshed Press, that the theory, there was a lot of bad ideas at the time in medicine. You know, there's thalidomide. That it was going to be for a woman, you know, so she wouldn't have morning sickness. Morning sickness. And then all of a sudden it, you know, made flippers out of arms for these poor children.

And so they stopped it. And so, you know, they didn't put in the measles vaccine, and you could look this up, too, until there was no more deaths from measles in the United States. Because what happened was the theory of vaccinology, this won't be, you won't be able to put this on YouTube now. But the theory of vaccinology, what happened to, it piggybacked on the backs. of what was really successful. And if you look at the CDC, they'll say the biggest contribution to end disease was toilets,

sanitation, clean drinking water, nutrition. So the success of that, the theory of vaccinology piggybacked onto that into the mid-20th century. And so that was a, and like measles, I said, the death of measles disappeared. So you have, there's a wonderful guy, Roman Bistriannic, who wrote it called Dissolving Illusions. And if anyone's interested in this, I recommend them getting that book. Because I don't think we should, and as we're moving forward now with Robert Kennedy, is going to be overseeing, hopefully, the NIH, or at least overseeing the different departments here. And hopefully it'll spread to the UK as well.

We need to come to health from a position of health, not inducing disease to gain health, but inducing health for more health. And I think we need to do that because now we have children in America. And what really got to me was, and why I got involved in medical freedom and why I got excommunicated from Hollywood originally because Hollywood doesn't want anybody to, because they're scared.

They're all scared here. The executives are scared, the actors are scared, the producers, the directors. They don't want any reasons to not get hired. And you could, if you're a liberal, like Medi Hassan, well, you can say that, you know, almost sexual or pedophiles, well, you're liberal. Okay, we'll let you back in.

But if you're really, if you're not, and if they can get you, you're out, you're out forever. And all these executives, they don't want to be involved with anything that's controversial because their jobs, they don't act like I do.

I want to do the funniest joke. I can't. I want to challenge my audience and make them laugh at stuff they're not hearing everywhere else. The executives and the people at the streaming services are making decisions,

they don't decide what's the best movie or TV show we can do. It's what can delay my inevitable firing the longest. You used to know these guys, right? Yeah. So what happened to them?

Well, I think, Well, they always like that? You know, that's the cute thing about Hollywood. I was lucky because I never got super rich. Yeah. I mean, I did, I did fine. But I never got like super, Uber wealthy. And so I needed to work, which ended up being really good for me.

But also, the thing about Hollywood, which is very subvers, you know, it subverts you. They're not going to ask for all of your soul at one take. You know, all your integrity. they go, you know what, you know, just a little bit. You know, that's why, like, interesting thing with Jerry Seinfeld, they offered him $100 million when that was $100 million to do one more series of... Seinfeld.

And the thing is about Seinfeld was really interesting because they only did one pilot, and then they did three. It was like, there's never been a pickup of just three. And then they were six, and then 13. So they got four years to figure out their fucking show. The beginning wasn't that great. They didn't know what they were doing. Then they had three years to figure it out.

You can figure it out. A smart guy like, he's a genius, Jerry Seinfeld and Larry Day, but they figured it out. So I got four years to do it, but they offered him $100 million. He said, no. And I think that's, that is very few people can do that. Of course, he already had a hundred millions already. So, but they will.

They'll take that. They can just do this one. Jackie Gleason was one of the greatest, a guy who invented our sitcoms over here. He, they said, you can make this funny, Jackie. And it was a game show. And he said, you'll make it funny. Yeah, that's how they get to you.

That's what Peter Sellers, too. They gave him these horrible scripts in the 60s. like you'll be a blue matador you know you'll make it funny and then he would go and he's this fucking awful movies you know they they were all stoned on i love you alice be tokelis you know it's an unwatchable movie but you know he's great if you love him when i was a kid i love him yeah um but that's how they get to you you'll make it funny so jackie gleason did this show and it was a piece of shit and every it was just that we got horrible uh reviews when people reviewed things at that time and he apologized the next week said i'm sorry

I would find you a star who will apologize for something. It's a piece of crap. Find you a star that'll do that, you know. I know, Duce Bigelow, too, wasn't that great? Didn't come out as great as I wanted. It was good jokes. But, like, yeah, it didn't come out that great. It happens.

I took the money, though. I took the money. Well, but with these late night guys, right? I don't understand what that means. Do you think they became corrupted by... I think they had to go along with what the liberals were saying. I don't think they weren't allowed to go against the government policy. You couldn't go against what the, the Democrats were absolutely closed.

You could not critique Biden. You could not make fun of Biden's age. One of the jokes I had was, you know, if Biden was a dog, he'd put him down. People were like, they would get up and fucking walk out. How dare you? You know, he is our president. He's not brain impaired until we say he's brain impaired. So that, I mean, so, but they really would get angry.

I mean, I didn't realize how like liberal Omaha was, but I remember like 30 people. got like, whoa, these people are pissed. And if you went against what the government narrative at the time, and liberals, you know, they were running everything. So if you went against, they couldn't. So my, but, and at the same time, you had, I mean, they were awful. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel said the most horrible thing. And same with Howard Stern. It was absolutely dreadful what they said. Like if you are, hey, if you have a heart problem, you're vaccinated, come right in this, come on, come on in the hospital. If you're not, sorry, weezy. In other words, die in the hallway because you're choosing not to get an experimental gene therapy that was

developed at warp speed. And you don't want to take so that you die in the hallway. I thought that was a low, the low watermark for comedy in the 21st century. But what about this? Forget the COVID and the vaccine. I know it's important to you. And actually, you know, Francis and I both were very critical of what you talk about comedy in general? Well, I just mean that there's a kind of clustering of opinion like you you made the point that you there is no uniqueness to well they wouldn't go after the power base i mean until john stewart sat next to stephen colbert and said you know the wuhan virus probably came from the wuhan institute and he was like what because nobody was allowed to talk about that we all got kicked off twitter we got

kicked off facebook because of saying that yeah we were all excommunicated from the church of liberalism and uh and he but when john he was one of their own and so he was he was able to say he was big enough to say it But I guess, I'm just, John Stewart to me is a very good example on this Tony Hinchcliff thing. He came out and defended Tony. He defended Tony. Yeah. You know, Bill Maher, you know, Bill Ma, you may agree, disagree, whatever, but you know what, that's him. But Bill Maher is another Trump.

I mean, there's something that happened with Trump and happened to liberalism. For people who are, I mean, they say Trump derangement syndrome, I always thought that was an exaggeration. But, but no, it makes people crazy. And I really think, like, I was in an elevator with Alec Baldwin, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Donald Trump, Melania, and is Alec Baldwin's wife. And then my wife, we're all laughing in the elevator 10 years ago at Saturday Night Live's 40th anniversary. And then, you know, they were all loving him. Oprah loved him and everyone, until he ran for president and they fucking hated him.

He suddenly became the Antichrist. He became, so it was just, it was a thing that spun out. And I remember a friend of mine was an international banker. He was having, he was, you know, had a function with the head of the executive, of the publisher-in-chief of the New York Times. And this was, I guess, four years ago. And he said, can you, is it possible for you to be objective about the coverage of Donald Trump?

And he said, it is my, it is my solemn duty to make sure that he does not get elected again to the presidency. And it's like, whoa. I mean, that's the guy who's the New York Times. So they just, it's going to have to, they're going to have to appeal if they want to continue as a business. If they want to try to be, I would just tell people, there's, there's California and then there's New York. But then there's this.

This is the other 47 states and you got, you know, Hawaii's basically an extension to California. But then you got Alaska, you know, it's hard to get to. It's basically, you know, it's basically Russia. But you have, you have this whole group of people that don't feel that they're being served to. Nobody in that 48 watches late night TV. Yeah. I mean, very few people that would, they don't care. I mean, those shows are going to be gone.

They won't exist in two years. Yeah. Rob, what a pleasure it has been having you on the show. Well, thank you for having me. I'm sorry, it was so serious this time. No, it was great. It was great. Serious and light at the same time.

Our final question is always the same. What's the one thing we're not talking about that we really should be? Before Rob answers the final question, at the end of the interview, make sure you click the link in the description. You'll take it to our substack where you'll see this. Who was funniest? Steve Martin or Bill Murray. Why was Juice Bigelow, two, not as good as the first?

Why do people with fuck you money not say fuck you often enough? The unbelievably delicious food at Aaron Wan grocery store. That's a hint. That's right down the street. We'll take you that, well, we'll take it. I feel like I need to go there. I would just say that I'm the one thing I would just say that, We, I'm grateful to, you know, it was English humor

that was the high watermark of comedy in the 20th century. The Saturday Night Live would never have existed without Monty Python. Would never, never have. We didn't, I mean, it was, they created something that was just for them. And that's, I mean, trying to make jokes

to make you and your friends laugh and that's it, and hopefully it'll bring other people to it. That kind of powerful silliness is what we, I think is what we're gonna get back to in comedy. People are so sick of being serious. They wanna laugh, be silly again. And I think that's going to come. Amen. All right. Head on over to Substack, where we ask Rob your questions. Was SNL's participation in the presidential elections always as

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