TRIGGERnometry - The Race Hustle Is Over - Adam Carolla

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

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Legacy media is almost dead. Celebrity endorsements are dead And race hustlers are dead Because that's really all she had Trump's race Everybody is racist Who you disagree with? But only when they were up for president

Because Trump wasn't racist No no no no no He was celebrated as this great American business guy Right By the way with them Everything is projection But they can't wrap their mind around it Because they're racist

And every group should just vote With every group which is a racist thought. They're just going to end up doing what the Republicans do to try to get elected, which is going to seem weird. They're going to have to go, we're Republicans who care. Right now, they're nut jobs who care. Adam, welcome back to the show.

Thanks for having me back. It's great to have you. You're one of our favorite guests. We always look you up when we're in L.A. And this time, we're catching you as the elections just happened. And it's been a pretty seismic event, clean sweep, really. What do you make of it all? Well, my thought of it is legacy media is almost dead.

Celebrity endorsements are dead. And race hustlers are dead because that's really all she had. She had the media. She had the race hustlers. And including Biden, and Obama and all the normal, the people you don't even really think of. You know, you think Al Sharpton is a race hustler,

but you don't think Obama's a race hustler. Biden is a race hustler, but they do every bit as much agitation to the races as they possibly can. And then you have legacy media. It really, it's funny. They always go, well, there's CNN's over here and then Fox is over here.

No, no, it's CNN, it's CBS, it's ABC, it's LA Times, it's New York. It's everybody and then a couple of people on the right. But the race hustlers, Beyonce endorsing you, and the media are all a bygone era. It's so interesting, isn't it? Because at one point, if the media said something, like in the UK, if the son endorsed a political candidate for the election,

everybody would be like, oh, this massive tabloid endorsed them. that's it. They're going to win. Now, it almost feels like if the media endorses you, you're not going to win. You know what I mean? Yeah, it becomes a thing where it's like if you see way too many commercials for prop, whatever, it just means they have billions of dollars and maybe you shouldn't vote yes on that thing because you've seen way too many commercials for it.

Or maybe it's even like a burger franchise. Like you want to find that sandwich shop that's the hole in the wall, and the pop, not the subway. Too much, too big, you know. Too corporate. Yeah, too corporate. Maybe that's, maybe it is the era we're living. That's really interesting. And one of the things, I don't know if you felt this way, but, you know, we watched the election coverage on ABC and actually it was very balanced, the actual night of the election. But before the election, the media, I mean, I thought they literally picked up what little they had of their credibility and just threw it straight in the bin. Because it was like

all this stuff about how he wanted to shoot Liz Cheney. and like they went full hoax. Did you know, did you see that? Yeah, and it sort of mystifies me when people willfully misinterpret actions or words, willfully. You know what I mean? It's one thing to have a misunderstanding.

But it's another thing to force a misunderstanding on something that was so clearly not that, you know? and for then a news agency to do it is sort of next level, because they're here to sort that stuff out, allegedly, not misinterpret things. You know, when you take, I watched Trump with Sean Hannity in real time doing his little

town hall thing where Hannity did this thing where he went, now tell everyone you're not going to be a dictator. Trump does have a weird Tourette syndrome. Just say you're not a pedophile. Like if you told him to say, you can't tell him to say something, he says now. So of course, Hannity's going, just tell him you're not going to be a dictator. He's like, oh, wait a second now. And then he's got to go into Trump.

And he goes, I am going to be addicted to one day, just day one. And I'm going to drill and I'm going to close the border. and then that's it. I go back to whatever. And it's clearly a joke. And the ladies on the view or the New York Times or ABC or whomever, who Tim Walls, come out of here, they understand. It's on tape. You can hear him say. He's joking. You know what I mean? I mean, it's an amount to you going, you know, to your kid. Yeah, a little rascal, come back here. with my hat. I'll kill you if I catch up the end. He said he was going to kill his son. He said it. Like, are you willfully fooling yourself and your audience, although you're not

fooled? People are not going to put up with that for an extended period of time. They'll do it for a period of time. But every single thing that they leveled is on tape. It's easily understood, you know, the Liz Cheney thing. It's all there. And they knew it. And so now they're starting to drift into liar at this point. And I think people caught on. And it's, you know what it kind of reminds me of? You know when you see like footage of monkeys taking part in an experiment and they hit the button and then they get a grape?

And then after five hits of the button, they no longer get the grape and they can't understand and they keep hitting the button. That to me is a mainstream media. They had this tactic. It worked for a while. It no longer works, but they keep doing it. And you're thinking to yourself, do you not understand what you're doing? All you're doing is destroying your credibility, your reputation,

and you're just accelerating your own demise. But they don't seem to care almost, which is the interesting part, isn't it? Yeah, I feel that way about calling everyone you disagree with a racist. It's like you cannot possibly, it can't, Mitt Romney can't be racist, you know, Trump's race. Everybody is racist. But only when they were right for president, right? Because Trump wasn't racist before that. He was celebrated as his great American business guy, right?

I've always said there's never been a better time to be an actual racist. Just get lumped in with me and Trump and you guys and Dave Rubin and Dennis Pranger. You know, you just get lumped in with all these luminaries. Yeah. And it just, it's so interesting because I was in two minds about this election. I didn't know who was going to win. I kind of be honest, because we're in such a bubble, I had an inkling that it might be Camilla,

and I was saying to Constantine, I think it might be Camilla, maybe we're just in a bubble. And then I saw that tweet of hers where she was calling people fascist, and then I thought, oh, that's a sign of somebody who's losing and knows they're losing. The moment you start smearing people as fascist, that's the moment you've lost any type of argument or discussion.

Well, also, what I never really get, and it doesn't seem effective is if you would like to make a case against somebody, you should do it. But when you paint in these very broad strokes, it kind of lands on deaf ears, you know. And a lot of it has a feminine quality to it. You know, when you get into arguments with a woman, she'll go, you're the worst husband ever born. You live in 8,000 square feet, and I've never put hands on you.

So I got a crack. Maybe I'm in the top five, but I can't be the worst ever born. Where's my belt, bitch? They do this thing and then it doesn't work. You know, if they would say, if they would go, look, you don't listen a lot of time when I'm talking. You seem not to one engage or something. Then you'd have to kind of go, maybe I am kind of. guilty of tuning out or something they go worse father ever born or worse husband ever born and

we're back to you know and that's what they what they do which i love is they go trump is hitler and he's old and then he's going to die in office and jaddy vance is going to take over and it's going to be worse and i're like worse than hitler so you got hitler and then hitler with mad MMA skills. But I'm not listening because you're crazed hyperbole all the time. That's why I'm not listening. And also, when it never happens, they never course correct. They just, whatever, Trump's going to be in there.

There's not going to be an internment camps. There's no Hitlerian behavior. There's no turning the military on everyone who didn't vote for him. But yet, they'll never course correct. They'll just go right back to it. Yeah, and you just even scratch, not even the surface, but just the light dusting of a layer. And you're like, well, so Trump's Hitler with an Orthodox Jewish daughter who converted. And Trump and J.D. Vance is even worse than Hitler with an Indian wife.

Right, right. Oh, no, there is, you can't do any of that stuff where you try to kind of re-engineer stuff and go, how could I be X, Y, and Z? I'm married to an X, Y, and Z, or my children converted to whatever. None of that works. I mean, when they start digging in and going down a road, that's it. You know, you could be Jewish, and they would call you a Nazi. It doesn't really matter once they start going down that road.

Yeah. Well, you've been watching this whole back and forth in the American politics. for a while now. First question, do you think because of the scale of the victory, because he won the popular vote, because he won the presidency, he won the Senate, we're recording this at a time when we don't know if he won the House, but it could happen. It could be just absolutely dominant. The media and the Democrats are going to have to actually look in the mirror. Do you think that's going to happen? I think a segment and a portion of them, will do some self-assessment kind of thing.

You know, it's like they just stepped on the scale and it said 350 pounds and a certain amount of them are going to step off the scale and go, I got to lose some weight. But another percentage are going to say, fuck this scale, which is how they work. So it's like, all the scale is Hitler. Or the scale's Hitler.

Yeah. So I just was watching some clips of MSNBC, you know, they're sort of the extreme left, but a lot of the breakdowns of the autopsy from the left, and the autopsy, they go right back to

white women. We blame white women for this. They did not vote, they did not support. So what they do, because they're racist, and by the way, with them, everything is projection. When they're talking about racist, right, they're

about themselves when they're talking about totalitarian you know they're talking about everyone's got to get vaccinated a law affair yeah they're it's all then it's all into a mirror so what they do is they break everyone off into a race right and then they yell at the race that doesn't support their race because in their mind if you're black that guy's black what are you doing you know what i mean it's like well i don't know maybe i don't like his policies you know Like Obama, 7.2 or whatever, 7 plus black males out of 10 are going to vote for Kamala Harris, which is, sounds pretty good if you're Kamala Harris, but it's not good enough for Barack Obama. He wants to find the 2.8 black men who aren't voting for Colorado and yell at that.

And it's like, well, maybe they own a small business and maybe they have different interests or priorities than you. But this whole thing is there's this unqualified, mostly Indian woman over here who you black guys need to vote for because she's going to do because she's black or have black or something. That's enough. You know what I mean? And so what they do is they go, black men, black women came through. They're heroes. Black women are great. Those are great.

They voted 92% for Kamala. Black guys, a little disappointing that, you know, Mexicans, oh boy, oh boy, they did not. Someone's going to tell them what's going on, you know what I mean? White men, okay, lost cause. White women, what's going on? You know what I mean? And it's like maybe they like the message of this other person more than the message of the person they share a uterus with. But they can't wrap their mind around it because they're racist and every group should just.

just vote with every group, which is a racist thought. Right. You know, I always say my actual white privilege is not getting free stuff because I have a rich dad. My white privilege is looking at six foot two, 50-something-year-old heterosexual Gavin Newsome, white guy and going, I hate that doucheback. I would never vote for him. And no one says to me, well, come on, he's white. I don't like his policy. I'll vote for Larry Elder.

I get to vote for Larry Elder and not be ostracized from the white community. That's my privilege. Right. That's a really good point. That's a really good point. And I guess the second question, given the scale of the victory, is, are you hopeful that this is going to, that Trump has an opportunity now to really actually deliver on the things that he promised. Because in the first time, he had to contend with a

powerful media machine. He doesn't have that problem nearly as much now. He had to contend with a lot more opposition. Now it's almost like he can do the things that he promised the American people. Are you optimistic about that? Here's what I think. I think the first time Trump came into office, he was naive and not naive. in a way that any of us wouldn't have been. You know, he just sort of walked in and went, I've never done this before, so who should I surround myself with? And then, and he also, I think had the misbelieve

that if he really did the right thing, that the New York Times and other outlets and the Manhattan elite would come around to him. Like once they saw he was a good guy and trying to do what was best, they would warm up to him and move over. You know, they had to battle for Hillary Clinton, but now that the battle was over, and they understood he wanted what was best for our country or opportunity zones for black men, or he's going to, you know, pardon the niece of Louis Armstrong who's in jail or something like that.

He thought they would move over and warm up to him. He did not understand there was a fatwa that was declared and it was going to keep getting worse, right? He also, I don't think, understood the circle of people who didn't want him there who were there. I mean, I've had jobs where I took over for Howard Stern on the West Coast some years ago. I didn't know the general manager and people at the radio station didn't want me there. And it's a weird thing, but it's sort of like your wife. poisoning you slowly in your cereal every morning. You're like, these oats taste weird.

That's just how you like them. God, I feel so sluggish, you know. And so I don't think he knew the game. And he also didn't know they were from within sabotaging him. And I don't think he knew the scope and the scale of sort of the swamp and the deep state. And then also, he had a second term to think about. So, you know, when COVID came around, he had to go, I'm not firing Fauci. Because if I fire Fauci, the country's going to turn against me.

I got a second term to go for. Now he's free of the second term. And I think he gets clearly what they do. And he also understands the New York Times op-ed is never going to write it. a kind or fair or even accurate thing about you ever. So now it's time just to go for broke. And so I'm kind of looking forward to what that looks like. Now, my friends on the left think go for broke means open as many gulags as human way possible.

I don't, but that's how they feel. You know, it's so interesting how the left in this country have mirrored the left in our country. how they've abandoned ordinary working class, blue-collar concerns. They have moved over to progressive policies, progressive ideologies, that most people don't care about because it doesn't affect their lives. It's like Bill Clinton said, it's the economy stupid. How could the Democrats have forgotten the words of possibly one of their best ever president? You know, it's called a progressive movement.

And if you take progressive and movement, it means it just keeps going. They never pump the brakes. You know, they go, and it's an interesting ruse, I guess I would call it. But it's also, it has an interesting sort of psychodynamic to it. Like it always starts with something reasonable. You go, why shouldn't a gay couple be allowed to marry so they could have the same rights and privileges, you know, insurance and stuff, you know, whatever? And then people like us go, yeah, okay. That kind of makes sense.

And it takes a little while and then they get it. And then our head on it is, well, that's what they want. And they've been agitating a lot and give it to them. And then we can move forward and we won't have to argue about this thing. and then they go, well, what's wrong with a little trans story hour, you know? And you go, what is that again? Well, that's the transvestite reading, hop on pop to six-year-olds at the public library. And you go, oh, no, I don't, I don't, oh, you're not down with the movement, are you?

And I'm like, no, I'm kind of, I'm for gay rights. I just, well, we're thinking about trans kids, you know, getting. healthy breasts cut off when they're 13 and taking puberty blockers. And you're like, no, I'm not. And they go, oh, interesting. I didn't know you're homophobic and bigoted, you know, and you're like, what is going on? Well, what's going on is they keep going. They don't stop. America stops. America goes, gay rights, good. Love who you want. Get married. Have the same privileges heterosexual couples have. but then you get Dylan Mulvaney taking pictures in the Oval Office with Biden, and America goes, I don't know about that.

That's a little too far. And they do it with everything. They do it with immigration. They do it with everything. You know, it always starts off with something where you go, well, what's wrong? Let's see someone's being politically persecuted in Guatemala, like tortured by the federals. Shouldn't they be able to come here and seek asylum? and you go, yeah, that sounds reasonable.

I'd like to say that's the kind of nation we are. And the next thing, you know, it just turns into migrants and illegals living in hotels and New York and being bust in and everything else. And so they don't stop. Now, what they do do and what you saw Kamala Harris do is they understand most of America is not down with this. So five years ago, there's lots of talk about her defunding ICE and trans, transgender surgeries for prisoners and ending fracking.

And now they focus group, they test that stuff and they go, okay, America doesn't like this. So then she goes, okay, I have to pretend like I'm not for that stuff anymore because now I need America's vote. It's also an interesting thing. All these things they change their politics on, Biden does it a lot. Kamal Harris was 55 when she said all that shit. You know, she was a young, bright-eyed kid, still fresh with idealism right out of school. She's 55.

She had a hysterectomy. And then she said, no more fracking. Do you think you change your opinion on stuff from 55 to 60? Nobody believed it, man. Right. Nobody believed it. Right. So it's interesting, though, because I find this fascinating because, you know, I was in Australia earlier this year.

And they're not nearly as polarized as we are in the UK or as you are in the US here. So I was at this meeting where there was people from the left and right. And the first thing that the guy who was hosting had said is, you know, I'm from this party. I don't want the other party to win. Or when they do, and it's going to happen, I want them to be the best possible version of that party for our country. Right. I'm very interested in where the left goes from here. And I see two paths, really. They can double down.

And in that case, as long as Trump can deliver on the promises that he's made, they're going to be in the wilderness for decades if they double down. Or they're going to have to learn. And that, to me, is a fascinating thing. Yeah, I mean, you know, to be continued. I mean, I think it would be positive if they learned from this. I mean, the reality is, it's sort of like there's a lot of people that want you to be vegetarian. But America loves ribs. And you can do all your impossible burgers and your tofurkey you want.

But when it comes time to take a vote and what we're going to eat at this Super Bowl party, ribs overwhelming majority. And America, as much as they'd like to focus on abortion rights and trans rights and, you know, Hitlerian, whatever, America's economy, border, you know, foreign security, military, we're very ribs and we're meat and potatoes. We are because we're pragmatic at the end of the day. And the other stuff is kind of windowed dress. you know and you know we're in california gas is 550 a gallon that affects everybody all the time

and hits poor people the hardest you know abortion trans game whatever that that affects some people some of the time but this is all the people all the time so the democrats are going to have to learn that they're going to have to give up the vegan ghost and move more toward the ribs. The problem is, is they're just going to end up doing what the Republicans do to try to get elected,

which is going to seem weird. It's like Kamala Harris is like, I think we should build some of that border wall. It's like, okay. Like, all she was saying to try to win votes is stuff Republicans have been saying

with like a dusting of human rights stuff over here. So they're in kind of a conundrum, but I think they have to move toward ribs with an eye toward having a turkey burger for some of the people at the party, you know, like we are sensitive

to some of these food allergies or something like that. So it's like they're going to have to go, we're Republicans who care. Right now, they're not jobs who care. And that's, that's why they lost. Do you see any politicians like that on the American left of the moment, Adam?

Josh Shapiro seemed an interesting one. He was like, you know, Donald Trump needs to stop shit talking America and stuff. He struck me as one that was maybe attempting. He's from Pennsylvania, so you can see why he'd be popular there with that kind of attitude. Do you see anyone else? I mean, Federman, it seems to be drifting towards sanity. You know, he's saying things that you didn't normally hear from a politician from the left. So I think there is a kind of a Federman.

you know, leaning for some of these people. I mean, it's hard to tell because they're so transactional, you know, like you've got some guy. He's a Democrat, and he's talking about fracking. He's from Pennsylvania. You know, it's like, all right, he's trying to get votes. You know, I don't know if he really believes it. I mean, I think part of the problem with the left, too,

is you have to be so lockstep with them on everything that there's really, you cannot deviate from the path. and some of their stuff is nutty and hard to go along with if you're sort of rational and sensible and reasonable. But I think a lot of people on the left had to go with it. I mean, how many politicians on the left or Democrats knew that January 6 wasn't a insurrection, wasn't a deadly insurrection, wasn't, they had that. There's so many of them knew that.

none of them could say, yeah, it was a bad ride. It was pretty ugly, but not really an insolright. Did you hear anyone say that? They have to go. They have to go. Yeah, and it's really interesting because when you talk to, we know a lot of people who are voting, Republican, and I always try and look at the other side, and I think, you know, they must have some good ideas and some policies. And I remember coming to L.A. in 2002 and coming back here, 22 years later. and the downfall of L.A. and California in general has been awful to see. And you're going, well, why would anybody vote for you if you just want to make America into a bigger California? Yeah, I agree. It's like when Gavin Newsom was flirting with running for president or sort of we could tell what he was thinking about.

I said, Gavin Newsom, he's like a guy who runs the world's shittiest taco stand going, I want to franchise. You know, it's like, nobody likes him now. I'm going to get wild worldwide. And it's like, you want to franchise this to the rest. Also, like, I don't think that Gavin Newsom understands that California is used as a sort of joke and a threat to the rest of the country. Like you want to end up like California?

You know what I mean? It's like if you had an older brother in juvenile hall when you're in high school. So you keep skipping school, son. You're going to end up with math. Okay. And juvie. Like that's what California is. We're like this example of you don't want to end up like.

Yeah. And I don't even know. To me, that's like the ultimate slap in the face, you know? Like we and not only we wield ourselves into this. We weren't this. We manifested this. We made ourselves this. And we're so dumb in California.

We just had prop 35 or 36 or whatever it was, right? So what we do is we go, you know, I want a proposition, you know, four years ago or however many years ago where we're going to make it a misdemeanor to shoplift anything under $850. And then it's bedlam and chaos. you know, everyone smash and grabs, you know, everyone's just stealing everything. And we live with that for like four or five years and then we go, I got another idea. Let's have a bill that says you can't do that anymore.

And then we argue about it. And then that bill passes because the first bill was a horrible idea and caused all this. And we do this all the time. We're like we fix this problem except for the people that voted on the people that instituted the first bill never get voted out. That's the kind of weird part. It's still, California is like, oh, we hate all the policy, but we will never stop voting for the Democrats that are in charge of creating the policy. Why not? I, you know, I think there is a, an allegiance in the Democratic Party that is, runs deeper.

I think than the Republicans. I think by nature, Republicans are a little more pragmatic and in the sense that if you, you know, black women vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, they've been doing this for 60 years. They've got nothing. They've got nothing in return.

Now, what they get every year is I see you and you're going to have a seat at the table, and, you know, I care about everybody and I'm going to blah, blah, blah, blah. It never happens. They had a two-term black president. They've had it all. It never worked.

It doesn't work in their town. It doesn't, they go, we need a black mayor and a black fire chief and a black DA and a black, and it doesn't. It never worked. But they do it, I mean, you know, 92% or something that block, you know.

Now, pragmatic people, After about 50 years of nothing working, we would go, you know what? I'm thinking about a different direction. Call me crazy, you know. And Democrats, if I as, I don't even consider myself a conservative, but just as a sort of pragmatic person, if the guy I voted for started doing a bunch of stuff that didn't work and I didn't agree with, I would vote for somebody else pretty, pretty quickly. they also, once you subscribe to this Hitlerian stuff,

well then you have to vote for that person because in L.A., we had Gavin Newsom running against Larry Elder. Now, the L.A. Times called Larry Elder, the black face of white supremacy. So if you said one guy is a white supremacist or Hitlerian or in the clan, that guy doesn't want to raise the price of a parking ticket by $10. But the other guy who's not in a clan and not Hitler does,

I would then, if I believe that, I would go, well, I don't want to raise the price of a parking ticket, but also I don't want to be led by Klansmen. So I will vote for this other guy. So what they do is they go, look, it's a shit show and nothing worse. and we're broke and homeless and it's a dumpster fire here but our guy loves people and the other guy who says he's going to fix all this stuff is a racist so what would you who would you vote by i keep thinking you know it sounds comedic but it just is true yeah it's just true right my my my

my mom before before she died said um a couple of years ago she's She just goes, the recall or whatever, and she just goes, I know who Gavin Newsom. I know Gavin Newsom. I don't know this Larry Elder. Like, I know how I'm going to vote. I don't want, like, I know there's a homeless encampment on the roof of my house. But this guy cares. And the other guy could be mean.

And so I'm voting for the guy who care. You know, the hack definition of insanity is doing this. same thing again and again and expecting different results. I guess my question to you is just, is everyone in California mental? I think there's a fair bit of that because it does attract people who are a little pie in the sky. You know, we take the most mental mental of all the other neighboring states and invite them here to pursue their dreams that never come true. There's also an interesting phenomenon that I've sort of observed, which is people who were born and raised in Los Angeles and California are nearly as nutty as the ones who come here and do

their impersonations of someone who lived in Hollywood or L.A. So as an example, I realized that the guys and kind of contemporary guys, you know, Mark Garagos, attorney, dear friend, lives born and bred here, Lachaniana, Pasadena, whatever, Dr. Drew, dear friend, born and bread, California, Adam Kroll, born and bred. born and bred here. No tattoos, no earrings, no crazy thoughts. You know, not, you know, not not ramming a Japanese whaler, you know, out on the coast. Like, Mark and Drew and me are like three of the most, dare I say, normal guys out there.

I see the people, I see these guys in Hollywood all the time. They come here from the sticks. I've worked with people from Brattleboro, Vermont, you know, and wherever, deep, deep place. And then they come here and they get an earring and a tattoo. And they're doing an impersonation of what they think a Hollywood hipster or a Californian would be. And they go much harder in that direction than the people who are from here. The people, the guys I grew up with, blue-collar dudes live in the valley. Not a not none of the woke none of the woke. It's the people who come here and do their impersonation

Like how would I act if I belonged in California? I know I dye my hair pink and I get really angry at Trump, you know, and that's that's who they are. So it's comprised of a bunch of people who relocated and are doing their impersonation of someone from California. You know, I was reading an interview with John Bon Jova, he was talking about living in Malibu, and he said the reason that he left Malibu was because he felt completely disconnected from reality. And he said, number one, you can't be creative. He went, so there was that change. He goes, but number two, it wasn't good for my kids, because they thought this paradise was reality, and it's not. Do you think this is just what happens when life just gets too easy when you wake up every day and it's sunny?

And it's a perfect breeze and you can go out and everybody's, you know, working in the arts. And by the way, if people are watching and listening who haven't been to California, it's like that, like 300 days a year. Well, I moved to Malibu because I wanted to be disconnected from the creative process. You know what's funny? I, in Malibu, wrote a joke about John Bon Jovi. I act just two weeks ago I literally made up a joke about Bon Jovi from Malibu so Jovee John Bon Jovi saying that the creative process dies in Malibu this comedian begs a difference I wrote it crazy do you guys want to hear this sure it's it's a it's a little rambling I got a

I have to say but it's kind of interesting and I don't know if it'll translate to the UK, but you guys are pretty hip to the references. I watched that John Bon Jovi dock on Hulu, and he said in the dock he was getting too old, and he feels like he lost his speedball. Now, the term is you lost your fastball. It's not called a speedball. It's called a fastball and the colloquialism

for getting old and not being able to pull it off. anymore as you've lost your fastball. And then he's also the king of Jersey. And the other guy is the king of Jersey is Bruce Springsteen. And Bruce Springsteen has a song called Glory Days, where he sings about a high school guy who could throw a speedball past you. And it's always bothered me because I'm like, glory dude. I'm like, it's not a speedball boss.

It's a fast ball. And then I realized the two kings of Jersey, say speedball when they mean fastball. And then I thought, is this a Jersey thing? And then because I'm from L.A. And in L.A., a speedball is a totally different thing. That's heroin and cocaine. That's a speedball.

A fastball is a baseball term. And so I had this fantasy about. about being at a party and seeing Bruce Springsteen and saying to him, because I don't know if they go the other way. Do they say speedball when they mean fastball and fastball when they mean speedball? It could be a two-way street for them. And I would go up to Bruce Springsteen and I would say, what killed John Belushi?

And he would go, who was killed by a fastball. And I would go. I knew it. It's an esoteric word joke, but you brought up on Joving the creative process in Malibu. I mean, it's absolutely fair. I mean, talking, just touching on celebrities, the amount of celebrities that came out for Camilla, and we talk about celebrities being dead, and we kind of glossed over it. But this is America, this is California.

Your celebrities are the royal family. You know, Bruce Springsteen, coming. coming out for Camilla. Beyonce coming out for Camilla. Why is it we've stopped believing in celebrities? I think they used to have an air of mystery and with that came dignity. And so when I was growing up, I mean, not growing up, but an older, a younger version of me thought Robert De Niro must be a genius.

you know, because he never did interviews. He didn't hear anything he had to say. He just had this gift of this ability of acting. And you would go, that guy's a genius. That guy's a genius. He didn't talk. I never heard him give his opinion on anything. I just saw his product.

I was like, that guy's a genius. And it was sort of the same with Bruce Springsteen. Did I tell you my jovie joke with Bruce? very good impersonation of Joe Biden he didn't say much he just performed and and and and everyone would go that guy's a genius that guy's a genius well then these guys started talking

and he and he went oh Robert De Niro's a douchebag not a genius now he destroyed his legacy because he should have never grabbed a microphone and started dropping F-bombs and going on the view because then he becomes, he went from Robert De Niro's sort of mystery genius to Robert De Niro, dumb doucheback. And I think many celebrities did that to themselves.

It's such a great point, Adam. It's such a great point. I think it's one of the reasons Danza Washington is so universally respected because he doesn't get involved in this stuff. We still think of him as a genius, right? Right. Well, we, the guys who kind of go well first of all many of them sound unhinged and unreasonable

you know what I mean so when you see the celebs mark Ruffalo or those kind of guys get up there and start screaming about him wanting to lock everybody up and you know put strict nine in baby formula

and you know fly fly his trump plane into another into the Eiffel Tower this time. You know, like you just go, oh, shut up. Like, you don't know what you're talking. You sound like an idiot now. And the community, the Hollywood community sort of did that to themselves. But there was also a turn in that we used to listen to elites, and now we don't trust elites.

that's why everyone is vying to not be elite you know i mean you take camilla harris you know spent her many formative years in montreal going to a private you know elite private school right parents both professors at berkeley like it doesn't get much more elite than both your parents were professors at berkeley uh what she she's generally from the block grew up in Oakland worked at McDonald's. Middle class, right? A lot of talk about middle class

McDonald's grew up in Oakland. And, well, it's true that she spent a lot of time in Oakland, but she spent a lot of time in Canada going to like an elite prep school, which you would never know because she'll never say it.

And also, the news is never going to say it. Now, you just take something like McDonald's. I worked at McDonald's. I never bragged that I worked at McDonald's from the time I worked at McDonald's until 10 minutes

ago because it did not get you any currency. Saying I worked at McDonald's was just saying I was poor and I was stupid. And my parents were poor and they were stupid too. And so I ended up working behind the grill at McDonald's. People bragging, they worked

about. I mean, she's literally lying to say, I work. You used to lie and say you didn't work at McDonald's. You know what I mean? Like if I was at a party when I was 28 and trying to pick up a girl and my friend came up and went, you know, he used to work at McDonald's. I go, shut up. This guy's drunk. So this is, we don't like elites anymore. Celebrities, the other thing is celebrities don't know what they sound like because they're, they're so high on their own supply and they're in such a bunch of. that they don't realize that, look, that sounds gross or weird or you're insulting half the

country or whatever it is. They don't care. Well, right. They're surrounded by people who tell them they're the best and laugh at all their shit jokes and all of that, right? We don't have that. No, we're thankfully not. Not yet. We're getting there. We're working on it. But the other thing as well is, you know, I think we have seen quite a lot of discrediting things come out of this town. Oh, for sure, yeah. Whether it's Me Too and Harvey Weinstein, whether it's, it's, you know, the P. Diddy parties, you're kind of looking and I go, I'm not sure you're really that elite. Yeah. And there's definitely, it's not only the Harvey Weinstein situation or the P. Diddy situation just sort of in a bubble, it's being lectured by these people over and over and

over again about our morality and how not, it's being called a masochers. It's you. It's Hillary Clinton and whatever celebrity calling me a misogynist and then hanging out with Harvey Weinstein at all the big all the big black tie fundraisers, right? It's the it's the hypocrisy of it. It's it's not just them engaging in the behavior. It's them saying we're immoral. You know, it because that's the way we are as human beings. say, I caught this guy and I opened the door and he was in the bedroom and he was having sex with another guy. We'd go like, well, okay. But if that guy was a priest who preached, you went to hell if you lay down with a man and you should lay down with a dog, if you walked in a room and saw that guy, you'd have much different opinions, right? And that's what Hollywood does. They

lecture us constantly, you know, they lecture us about global warming and then they fly private everywhere and they have a 400 foot yacht. They like to hang out with Magic Johnson on and then come back and lecture us about plastic straws or whatever they do. The hypocrisy, that's the thing that gets us. That's what makes people angry. Seeing the two guys having sex on your comforter, it's like, ah, have it dry cleaned. That's so California. Seeing the preacher who was wagging his finger at everyone about sexuality and homosexuality, now you're angry. Amen. You know, and it's that.

And it's also the fact that, look, it takes a lot of time, a lot of hard work, a lot of effort to get really good at one thing. And the reality is no one has the time to get good at everything. Like, take Robert Downey Jr. I think one of the greatest actors of his generation, a brilliant actor. When he talks about his story and addiction and recovery, I'm like, you're a hero. When he talks about politics, I'm like, Robert, you don't know what you're banging on about. And all it makes me work with think when you get together with your Avengers is I wish Thanos had won. So you know what I mean?

Yeah, well, you have to understand as well in Hollywood and the day. dynamic of Hollywood, which is most anybody is replaceable in Hollywood. We don't really need anybody. And you'll hear it all the time when they'll go, you know, the original Indiana Jones was going to be David Hasselhoff, but then he had to fill Knight Rider and then Harrison Ford. If you go look like who was going to be the first Superman or who was Indiana Jones, I mean, there's all these stories that Tom Sillick was supposed to be fill in the blank, you know, and it happens. So they're interchangeable. They know it.

They're vulnerable. Yeah. They're vulnerable. And it, you don't, you know, there's a handful of people that cannot be replaced. You know, there's a handful of sort of Quentin Tarantinos or maybe like a Seth McFarland or something like that. But everyone else is in the mix. We don't need you.

You know what I mean? And like you screw up and you get caught doing something and you just never work again. That's how it is. Even the whiff of impropriety or whatever, as we've seen with a lot of celebs, you're just out. So they're in a profession where they're vulnerable. You know, when I was a carpenter, I was a good carpenter. and trades guys who are good at what they do, welders, carpenters, like, they never feel vulnerable.

There's always work. If you're a good carpenter, you just work. You just say whatever you want. You do what you want. Like, really, you just come to work the next day. And you have a skill, and they need you, and you're aware of it, too. Hollywood's very replaceable, and so it can come down to fractions and tense, you know what I mean? And all it would take is you being on the wrong side of one issue like COVID.

COVID came around. Every single person in Hollywood was on exactly the same page with COVID. They all knew Ivermectin didn't work, even though they'd never heard the name Ivermectin. And they knew hydroxychloroquine didn't work, even though they'd never heard of hydroxychloroquine. and they all knew it came from a wet market and not from the lab. How did you get them all on the exact same page? If you were looking at it logically, you'd go, well, certainly a percentage of them would go, well, I don't think it came from a wet market.

It probably came from the lab that was studying these kind of viruses down the street. I don't know about Ivermectin to ask your doctor. That's up to you. That's not my business. You would have rational, normal. you would have when the Super Bowl comes around half the people in Hollywood think

are rooting for San Francisco and the other half is rooting for the Cannes City Chiefs. Why? There's nothing around that one. You're not going to be thrown out for picking the Chiefs. So they just split. They split on everything and then something they can get thrown out comes around like COVID or an election

and they all get the exact same page. Right. I know. I'm so sure. I actually have friends in Hollywood who didn't agree with the COVID stuff, and they kept very, very quiet about it because they have to. Oh, they become Moranos, which are, I don't know, Jews in Spain at a certain time that just couldn't come out as Jews. You know, I mean, I would be on sets and have guys like, you know, literally, I like, I like what you're saying. I keep saying what you're saying, but don't tell anyone I said.

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's very real. Threaten everyone with the loss of livelihood, and they'll get in line. Especially when it's that far to fall, right? When you're poor, you lose your job. You're going to find another shitty job. You're going to be just as poor, right? But when you've got millions to lose, that's when it really feels,

especially if you feel like this is the only place that you can work. Yeah, it's millions to lose. And it's pretty arbitrary. You just get caught on a hot mic dropping an end. bomb, and we'll never hear from you again. It's that fast. Now, if you're a welder, you don't drop end bombs, you're out. But you know, it's so interesting because the more that they've gone down this path, the more politicized they've become, the more progressive their talking points have been, and the more vocal progressive their movies are, the more and more people just think,

I don't care. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to consume the content. And the more you just see it just spiral downwards. Yeah. Well, what they did is they damaged their own franchise by the wokeness thing, which they can't stop doing. But for instance, the biggest event we have in this country is really the Super Bowl. every year. And everyone gathers and stops what they're doing to watch the Super Bowl. And the reason they do that is it's a pure meritocracy. There may be two black quarterbacks starting in the Super Bowl. They could have two black coaches. The defense on the Ravens could be 11 black guys. That's the mountain number we have in American football. It is all. And no one ever questions any of it. It's pure meritocracy, and we love it.

The Oscars used to be the Super Bowl, but we stopped caring. And the reason we stopped caring is because they started mandating that at least X amount of minority and disability films be nominated. And then we started seeing, you know, what would happen as you'd go, what film won best film this year? Moonlight, oh, what was that about? That was black guy, was gay. And then you go, oh, okay.

I get it. I get it. And it doesn't mean it wasn't the best film. It really, what they did to themselves is when they started doing this DEI shit and this, all this other stuff, it became like you'd see like a young black man walking through the quad at Harvard. And people go like, is he really here because he's that smart? that they just pull him in here because they needed. He may belong and he may have had the highest SAT scores in the land. He might have been Thomas S.O.

Thomas Sola or the new Blackface of White's surprise. Larry Elt. He may be. But you brought questions. You made us question this thing. And when you make us question, we lose interest fast. And they took their franchises and they took their franchises. and they grafted all this stuff onto it.

And now, literally, I was with my son, who at the time was probably 15 or 16, and he loves films. He loves films. And we were sitting around one night in our home theater. Middle class, middle class. I used to work at McDonald's. And we're sitting at our home theater.

And we're just scanning through movies to see. new movies, we haven't heard. We come across this one, it's like a thriller horror movie, and it's literally like 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. And I was like, well, I've never heard of this film. And we both look at each other, 97%. That's pretty damn good for a thriller.

And we watch it. And it wasn't good. It was okay, you know, should have been 61% on the run. We're like, what's it? Well, it starred a black woman who was the hero who fought the thing and did the thing. And at the end, we're like, oh, we got burned because that's how we do it.

But it also made this 15-year-old boy think, oh, they've rigged this system now. And now I have to check, you know, because the critics are all progressive and they root for this. And the voters with the Oscar, the Golden Globes. But it's all become this big DEI fest. And it's ruined the franchise just as it would with the Super Bowl if the quarterback was starting was white and we knew there was a much better black player at quarterback just standing on the sideline. It would hurt, it would hurt it and we would lose interest in it eventually. You know, oh, who's starting at quarterback? Well, the guy who owns the team put his 41-year-old son

out there. I'm not watching this. You know what I mean? It would ruin it. Yeah, it's so wood. And then when you think about to take the example of Denzel Washington, you remember when a Denzel film came out. I remember when Inside Man came out into the cinemas. Me and my mates were so excited that the new Denzel movie was coming out. It was going to be a heist movie, even better. And I saw that there was a young black British actor called Chia Tio for. He was a magnificent actor, by the way. I've seen him in theatre. I've seen him in films. I got really excited. I was like, oh, who's this new guy? I don't feel that way anymore. And that's sad. That's genuinely sad because we now question everything and we don't believe anything. So when people come

through who have got this luminescent talent, we don't give them the props that we should do. Agreed. We're back to the black kid at Harvard. Could be a genius, but we've decided he's only there because of the color of his skin and that's sad. Yeah, what they've done is they've diluted the currency. Yes. The coin was supposed to be pure gold and now it's 50% crap. Yeah. And now we don't trust the coin anymore. Or maybe chocolate. An American chocolate is shit. Listen, I'm not defending it. But we invented the peanut butter cup, bitches. So that's my trump card. Adam, it's always awesome talking to you, man. We really appreciate your time. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

We're going to ask you some of our supporters questions in a second. But before we do, as you know, we always wrap up by asking what's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be? Before Adam answers a final question at the end of the interview, make sure to head over to our substack. The link is in the description where you'll be able to see this. What will be the new type of podcast? What could aspiring podcasters do to enter the market? How does it feel to change history, seeing as you started the longer form podcast from a spare room format of new media, which is now going to lead the media? My question for Adam is about Jimmy Kimmel. He used to, uh-oh, he used to be a funny and insightful comedian, and I thought a champion for free speech, but he has turned into a partisan hack of the left.

My question is simple. What the heck happened with Jimmy? I think we're not talking about mental health in a way that we should be talking about it. We're talking about feeling threatened and safe spaces and that kind of stuff. We're not talking about mental health that comes from exertion and physical movement and tasks being performed. And, you know, we have a lot of like, I'm very, go wash your own car. It's Sunday, the sun shining, you got another. And then you'll have someone go, no, call the guys to come. They bring a van.

And I'm like, I'm not saying wash your own car because you can't afford to pay the guy in the detail van. I'm saying do it, do it for you, you know, go build a tree house with your son and daughter. No, have the guys do that. You know, I have a lot, for me, I make plenty of money. So when I announce I'm going to go down and wash the car, there'll always be some woman going, what are you doing? You make $1,000 an hour, you know, grubhub, bringing food to the home. You know what I mean?

Like people go, it's so much faster, it's easier. What do you want to do, waste all your time, you know, going to the market? It's like these mundane tasks that are forefathers and grandfathers and grandparents and moms and dads performed kept them sane. You know, not, I had a merchandise bag, a big bag, I bring all my books. I go through the show. I sell the merch, right? The thing blew out. The zipper broke on the thing blew out, whatever.

It's this big thing. got to throw away the merch bag. I said, I'm not throwing it away. I'm fixed the merch bag. Go get a new one. Go to Amazon. And throw this in, in what? The heap. You know what I mean? It's not going to decompose for 7,000 years. I'm going to throw this in the garbage. I said, no. I was a carpenter. I went and got my tools out. I got some stuff. And we'll get into the details. I fixed it. And then I went out the next weekend with the merch bag. And it felt good. Like I felt like, A, I didn't spend 110 bucks on a new merch bag. B, I didn't put it in a landfill.

And C, I feel a sense of accomplishment from this very simple task. We're pulling people away from this world. We're telling kids, you know, get off the roof, get down here, don't do it. Don't wrestle. Don't scrap. You know, don't, everyone's on their screen. And then we're going, you need medication because you got to deal with this thing you have that you got. because you're not out, hiking and engaging

and building a fort and rolling around in the dirt. We gotta get people back to those tasks and the technology is pulling them away every day. It's going, you don't have to do the stuff you had to do. You know, Grubhub and Uber and use your phone and you got Apple Pay and everything else. We need to get back to what I would just call diet and exercise. like basic, not OZempic, diet and exercise.

But you'll lose weight. It's not about losing weight. It's about the discipline of diet and exercise, which you don't get with the shot or the pill. You know, you have to earn your sanity. You can't just take a pill and expect to be sane. You've got to go out and break a sweat. Come back, feel satisfied.

Make your kid breakfast. Well, then let the school do it. No, no. You do it. You do it. For your kid, for you, for you, for the. engagement. We're not talking about engagement. We're not talking about simple tasks. We're not talking about washing your own car. Yeah. You have to. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah. And I said, and also as

well, the satisfaction that comes from within when you do a good job. Yeah. Like you cook a nice meal and everyone's like, you know what? That was a great meal. Right. And that feels good. Are you cooking tonight, me? No, we're going to get someone else to doing, mate. We made too much money. You have to earn your sanity. That is such a great point, Adam. I've never said that before, but I would like to put it on a bumper. That's a line. And it's absolutely true. We really appreciate you, Adam. You're one of the OGs of this whole format. It's really such a pleasure having you on the show every time.

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