Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 100: Growth And Self Crit

Episode Date: June 6, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I got a question before we start. This is our question. Answer it. Here's my question. How much time do y'all spend thinking about Patrick Swayze? Well, I told you I just recently watched Roadhouse for the first time. So a little more than usual. Why do you ask?
Starting point is 00:00:22 I got a friend that we were just, I was in the group chat with some friends of mine from college and we were reminiscing about the time we were at this casino and this woman
Starting point is 00:00:33 with an oxygen tank was sitting there at the card table with us and she looked at my friend John and said, anybody ever tell you you look like Patrick Swayze? And straight face, like not a hint of like iron he goes yeah i get that from time to time like like it like it was something that
Starting point is 00:00:53 like he gets like pretty regularly and we all just looked at him and the funniest part about it is he looks really looks dead on like david schwimmer i don't know who that is. So he definitely does not look like Patrick Swayze. I would believe it 100% if like... David Schwimmer's on Friends. He's Ross. Oh, God. Isn't that David Schwimmer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Looks nothing like Patrick Swayze at all. He said, I get that a lot. He goes, oh, yeah, I get that. Not like hee-hee-ha-ha. Like, oh, yeah. Yeah, I get that. Not like hee hee ha ha. Like, oh yeah. Yeah, that's happened before. Maybe he's just deadpan funny. Let me show you this guy.
Starting point is 00:01:31 One of those comedians. That's pretty funny. I mean, what movies... Unfortunately, Patrick Swayze kind of like... Like those pictures of him right before he died. Just brutal. He looked terrible. Patrick Swayze's dad?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Oh, yeah. Oh, dadder than fuck. Oh, that's awful. That's terrible. Dadder than fuck. This man looks absolutely nothing like Patrick Swayze. He 100% looks like Ross. Yeah, so she just did it to...
Starting point is 00:02:02 Oh, yeah. No, I think she was being serious or flirting with him or whatever, but... Hey. But he seemed to think that somebody had said he looked like Patrick Swayze before. Anyway. There was another reason Patrick Swayze came up recently. Now I can't remember. I definitely didn't know he was dead.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, he died probably seven or eight years ago. Ten years ago, maybe. When I was in college... 2010-ish. pancreatic cancer oh he yeah well every time an old actor dies i'm like i thought they were already dead he wasn't that old this is the opposite this is the opposite yeah how did he die he died too early not like he's Patrick Sturter. He died from pancreatic cancer. The worst cancer you can get. The worst. It's no good with that, really.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Once you get it, you're fucked. Do y'all know what mechanophilia is? Mechanophilia? Mechanophilia. You ever heard of it? Mechanophilia is? Mechanophilia. Mechanophilia.
Starting point is 00:03:04 You ever heard of it? It is a sexual attraction to mechanical objects. Cars, bikes, motorcycles, tractors, stuff like that. Like, you know, it's a sexual fetish towards... I'm over here wondering how you're going to bridge this to Patrick Swayze. I'm on pins and needles. I'm not. Well, I'm over here wondering how you're going to bridge this to Patrick Swayze. I'm on pins and needles. I'm not. You're just trying to change gears.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I just wanted to change gears. I'm shocked this hasn't come up in sex ed because there's always some teenage boy who's like, Hey, hey, you know what a candy cane swirl is? Or some shit, you know, just trying to say there's some weird. Yeah, yeah. Well, ask him next time if he knows what a canoph swirl is or some shit you know just trying to say there's some weird yeah well ask him next time if he knows what mechanophilia is and i'm always like no tell us and they never will they'll never cop to it in there and i'm like please we'd love to know this is all about learning and then i google it later and i'm like right okay yeah well the funny thing okay so i was wondering the other day what if someone with what if someone with mechanophilia fucked your car? Would you be able to drive your car the same way ever again?
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah, if the alternative is buy a new car. Yeah, it's only fuck. Do you know how much shit has happened to my car, in my car, to my car? Yeah. I'm still driving. Around your car. But you wouldn't have a different view of your car if somebody fucked it. How do you fuck a car?
Starting point is 00:04:31 It's got a gas hole. You put your dick in the gas hole. Is that how you do it? Is that the accepted one? Only people with dicks have this? No, there's also the- Wow. Wow, she just woke you on mechanophilia.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Wow. Wow, she just woke you on mechanophilia. No, no, you can fuck a car if you don't have a dick. It'd probably be easier because the gear shift. There's a movie. Yeah, there's a movie. Yes, exactly. The gear shift. Stick the
Starting point is 00:04:58 gear shift in your pussy. I was wondering how you go about doing that. I've been wondering. I mean, I can see it's shaped. I've probably seen dildos vibrators shaped like a gear shift. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I think I've seen gear shifts shaped like a dildos. It's a bow fan. Yeah, yeah. I don't think I'd want to stick my dick in a tailpipe. Not even if it was like... I'm trying to figure out because to stick my dick in a tailpipe. Not even if it was like... I'm trying to figure out because it wouldn't fit in a gas tank.
Starting point is 00:05:30 That's not like saying I got a huge dick or anything. I'm just saying it just looks kind of small. What, the gas hole? Couldn't get my hog in the gas tank. Mine neither, Tom. Same. I do wonder if you came in it, you know, like nitrous oxide is just like something that you put in the fuel. Putting sugar in your gas tank.
Starting point is 00:05:53 That's what I was going to say. Would it be like essentially put sugar, sand in it? Right. And sabotage? Fast and furious. But it's like Nas. It's like putting Nas in your gas tank. So like if you're racing in the big race and you hit the come button.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Paul Walker. Yeah. You go fast. He comes back from the dead. Right. That's actually how he died is what I heard. Hit the come button. He came in his own gas tank and then.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Metaphilia. What did you say it was? Mechanophilia. Mechanophilia. Yeah, mechanophilia. How'd you learn about this? I saw a movie with it um reddit what it's on reddit you're deep in red before we get too far away from sugar in the gas can is that that's an urban legend right no you can put sugar in the
Starting point is 00:06:41 gas tank no i feel like i got burned on that one, too. I've been burned on a lot of urban legends. Thank God. You've been telling us lies for years. We all knew it. But we didn't have proof. We didn't have the heart to tell you. Thank God somebody took up the snowball cause.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah, I want people to just look at this. This is a man going through growth self crit right now yeah reassessing all of his old um shibboleths and dogmas it's man disorient i'll be honest with you to come to find that uh men named bird dog had led you wrong yeah and that 90 of your stories are well i'll tell you how i found out i stumbled into it because our buddy drew nutter i was did something with him the other day we were talking and he said uh he's working on a construction site now and he was like, I'm looking for boot recommendations. So I said, well, you know, you don't want to get steel toes if you're going to be working with heavy beams or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And he goes, laugh out loud, I saw Mythbusters about that. And I was like, oh, God damn. That one too? As it turns out, though, the hog tusk is true. I thought that was urban legend. Hog tusk? You know, one of my go-to's is a hog that's feral will grow tusks, but in captivity it won't grow tusks because it's getting its food fed to it on a saucer or a trough or
Starting point is 00:08:20 whatever. That's true. Wait, wait. So it doesn't grow tusks because it's getting its food on a saucer? It doesn't need the tusks. Well, because you don't need
Starting point is 00:08:31 the tusks to gore shit, you know? So in the wild, so once you remove it from the wild, it no longer needs the tusks. Right, but it's, like if we were to raise
Starting point is 00:08:40 a pig from youth and grow it up, it would not have tusks. But the second we just slapped it on its ass and sent grow it up, it would not have tusks. But the second we just slapped it on its ass and sent it in the woods, it would grow tusks. What? It's like evolution just speeds up because it recognizes it needs them. This is kind of like when you put a goldfish in the river. What happens when we put tarrants into the woods?
Starting point is 00:09:02 See, I think the goldfish into a carp is an urban legend. No, it's true because when you think the goldfish into a carp is an urban legend. No, it's true because when you... Goldfish turn into carp? Well, they don't... Asian carp, I think. Isn't that what a... All I know is I have been in that river before and I have seen goldfish
Starting point is 00:09:18 that are like this fucking big. Like massive. What river? I put it down. He's picked the mantle up. I'm not making it up Buddy I caught his 40 pound I caught him 5 pound test They're just measuring dicks in here now So much for your confessions That's what we came here to do
Starting point is 00:09:38 Wait wait wait hold on Yeah I have a hold up too Slow down Another one that I've heard you tell over the years that i want to know i want to say also let's just keep it a buck right now though okay for as many times as you all tried to call me on my bullshit i've also redirected and thrown that shit right back in your face when you thought i was lying and i has phoned a friend that's friend who has corroborated his
Starting point is 00:10:05 bullshit stories. I have a network of guys ready to corroborate it. If when you call and you call them Joe, no matter what, their names are all something else. If you say, hey Joe, they know that you're calling for a backup. That's the code.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Whatever you say, they're going to be like, yeah man. And then he Venmo's them. Right, quick. 50 bucks. So one that I've always heard you tell is that if something with rabies bites you, then the rabies virus will hike up your nervous system and the wound will heal. But as soon as it hits your nervous system, the wound will heal. But as soon as it hits your nervous system, the wound reopens.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Is this true? That's according to Dr. Monica Murphy, who wrote the book Rabid, the history of the world's most diabolical virus. Fact. Okay, all right. I don't even understand what you just said. It's where we get our zombie lore from.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You know, like if you're bit by a rabid dog, the wound will heal. But the rabies virus is still in you. It still takes a little bit of time before it sort of starts doing its thing. Crawls like a quarter centimeter a day until it gets to your brain. And then when it gets to your brain, the wound reopens. I know a lot about rabies, but I've never heard this. Really? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Well, how do you know rabies to work? It appears in yet another role reversal, Terrence didn't do the reading. Fair enough. Take your lashings. Fair enough. Well, on this wild boar husk kick okay i saw i'll take all your bull no this isn't even this ain't even about you but i saw a headline that a snake gave birth
Starting point is 00:11:56 to another snake in captivity this week with no male snakes involved. Really? Like an immaculate conception? Oh, yeah, I saw that thing, I think. I didn't read into it enough to know if it was cloned, but I assume they would have said that if that were the situation, because we've been cloning shit, right? Yeah. So that's not... I thought we were.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Didn't Dolly Parton clone a sheep or something like that? Now, now. There was a clone sheep named Dolly. Don't come for Dolly. Don't come for Dolly. Don't come for Dolly. What's negative about saying Dolly Parton cloned a sheep? That would have been badass if Dolly Parton was a mad scientist. What she got?
Starting point is 00:12:35 I'm going to put that out there. Dolly Parton cloned a sheep. And you're right. It was a clone sheep named Dolly. God damn. This is exactly. This is Mandela effect. It's just like when you get most of the details right, but it's just a little off, like most of my analysis.
Starting point is 00:12:52 This is 100% all of the discourse in 2019. No one has all the information. Nobody. One or two crucial tidbits off. Or many. But anyway, what a pride month miracle the snake i don't i don't think it's that impressive and i'll tell you why seahorses seahorses have been doing that for no no no no no no see this is another one you've
Starting point is 00:13:19 got this are you gonna do this with me seahorsorses, the male seahorse, carries the baby. But they also do asexual reproduction. God damn it. I refuse to look this up. Me too, but I don't think that's true. So your stance is that... Male seahorses are doing it for themselves. That female seahorses are not involved.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Actually, you might be right. But it's some sea creature. It's not asexual reproduction. But there's a lot of animals that reproduce asexually. But wouldn't you want that? Like, from the angle you're coming at it from, wouldn't it be kind of woke if it was asexual? Yeah, it ain't.
Starting point is 00:14:02 But it isn't. Wow. So you're canceling seahorses. No, it ain't. But it isn't. Wow. So you're canceling seahorses. No, I love seahorses. I've never really interacted with a seahorse myself, but they seem mystical and magical. And it is baller for sure that the men do the bulk of the work during pregnancy. And the ladies just get to. Hallelujah.
Starting point is 00:14:25 The fellas are out there raising kids, raising the baby seahorses. I mean, the female seahorses probably having to scurry up years worth of food to prepare for this new seahorse or some ungodly thing. They probably put them in position to be
Starting point is 00:14:41 such great providers. They're building an entire habitat for the three to live in the rest of their lives. Who knows? Right, right. Well, you know what? I will. Okay, so on that note, this is relevant. I have a bad carpenter bee infestation in this house.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Really? Upstairs. Are those the kind you, those are still good bees that pollinate right yeah they pollinate um so you really don't want to yeah no i don't want to like call pest control or anything um but so they um although the pest control guy in whiteburg is super hot oh really oh yeah every time he i don't know but every time he comes in whiteburg i'm like oh chris Chris, Chris Bailey, thorough Bailey. I know you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Oh yeah. Is he bald? Like shaved head? Yeah. Tall. Let me tell you a story. Why is every hot guy in this town bald? Like Tom.
Starting point is 00:15:36 That's what I was setting it up for. Wow. What the hell? Why do people think? I guess I'm just only photographed wearing hats. Is that true? Yeah. Well, people, like I said, people see baldness and they see hotness.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah, they just get it mixed up. That's what they get mixed up. Let me tell you a story about the Orkin man. McDill effect. I used to live with the Orkin man, Moorhead, briefly. And then we were in Panama City Beach, Florida, spring break 2007 or 2006 or something like that. And Chris, God bless him, he has... Wait, this is this guy? My guy?
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah, yeah. This is the hot... The hot pest control guy. Can we have him on? Nicknamed Thurl. Named him Thurl Bailey after the Utah Jazz power forward from the 90s. Anyway, so we're here at this place. We're at the hotel.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And we had just, like, driven in, gotten there late. And Chris had been there for, like, two days. Me and my buddy BJ were there. We were getting caught up. And we're in the hotel room and we're getting up stretching the doors open to the hotel and we see just this blur run by the door and i just saw just like a hint of that shiny dome i said is that thorough he said man i don't know about two seconds later ran back the other way
Starting point is 00:17:09 right in front of that door i said if i got that was him and i stuck my head out the door and coming this way about that time was two security guards and i said my god he's he didn't waste no time they're already after him well we went back there we're mixing a drink up and all the stuff we're getting ready to go out And I said, my God, he didn't waste no time. They're already after him. Well, we went back there. We were mixing a drink up and all this stuff. We're getting ready to go out on the beach. And then Chris comes back.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I shouldn't say his real name. Thurl comes back. And he's got this blank expression on his face. He's a guy that when he would get drunk, it would have almost just disassociative effects on him. He would think he's another place. It was very bizarre. And I said, Chris, he goes,
Starting point is 00:17:50 shh. He leans over to me and he says, they're after me. I said, yeah, I know. I saw. I said, you want to get in here and shut the fucking door? He goes, shh. You have no idea what they want. I said, I said, what do they want?
Starting point is 00:18:17 And he cut me off. He goes, shh. He leaned over. He said. Give it to me. Just give it to me. He said. This is ridiculous. He said.
Starting point is 00:18:37 He said. They want the documents. They want the documents. I said they want what he said. They're after the documents, and he took off running down the hallway. I didn't see him again for two days. Dude, 48 hours. The Google documents.
Starting point is 00:19:06 He ended up on an Indian reservation playing volleyball with the tribe down there no fucking way call him call him up i'll buy it for shit tanya just he just he's just trying to mack on him tanya has an ulterior motive here. Just send him my number and I'll call him to corroborate this story. Wait, so where I was going with Carpenter Bees, what you might like about Carpenter Bees, I did a little research. I was like, well, what are these
Starting point is 00:19:37 new roommates I have? Because they keep fucking getting in my bed. Are they in your silverware drawer? No, that's just where the mouses are they're all are they in your silverware drawer no that's just where the mouses are at mice are in the silverware drawer and the carpenter bees are upstairs this is our studio friends this is where we are recording currently when i came in he was chasing a mouse around the kitchen we're lucky i'm still here now the bees so the carpenter bees um the female eastern carpenter bee um they're not hive bees they don't have a hive they're solitary bees but they still have a queen no they don't most
Starting point is 00:20:15 bees actually don't have a queen um most bee species don't so the you'll like this though the eastern carpenter bee um will nest and it'll be um usually an all-female nest so like mothers daughters sisters they like just will all nest up together um while the male who the fuck knows what the male is doing he's got his own nest he's phoning a fucking friend. We believed you, Tom. We believed the story. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I know. It's just the bear thing was such a hit last time. I was just trying to recreate the magic. You can't recreate it. It's not. We believe that. This is supposed to be the second time you've tried to phone a friend and they didn't answer. You mean second time in a row?
Starting point is 00:21:06 I had to cut it out of the last episode. Oh, did you? Tom asked me to. I'm not cutting this out, though. Christopher, give me a call back. I need you to corroborate two stories on a podcast that'll be listened to by thousands. Thousands? He means two thousands.
Starting point is 00:21:24 That's thousands thousands that is true okay plural thousands um all the ladies are nested up together but they're not fucking each other it's a family nest right it's a family nest yeah okay yeah well that's the that's um but so it's a fighting nest then a fighting nest it's either a loving nest or a fighting nest then. A fighting nest? It's either a loving nest or a fighting nest. This sounds like a fighting one to me. Yeah, I'd say so. But they are pretty cool. But so I had to ask around and shout out to our good friends, Katie and Andrew, who gave me some good advice.
Starting point is 00:22:03 They said put some bamboo around the house so that they'll nest in those places instead. But you got to plug up the holes that they've basically carved into the wood upstairs it sucks that you're having to deal with this situation yourself because you already know what your landlord would do yeah you know like your landlord would just call pest yeah he'd fuck it up royally and i feel like i have to i do like this with my rental all the time i have to deal with shit myself because I know if I call Roger, he's going to, it's like going to be hell. Yeah, totally. He's going to bring some kind of God awful chemical. Although after two years written off of him, the last time he come up there, I was having
Starting point is 00:22:36 yet another mold issue. And he come up there and he left me a bottle of like SLR or whatever cleaner. Like that was his big solution like i don't know to buy slr cleaner but listen we did he said look at that bottle look at that bottle and i looked at and i was like what he's like i thought you'd like that i was like like what he's like look look it's woman owned i was like get out of my fucking house, Rogers. Get the fuck out of here. God damn it, he kills me. Maniac.
Starting point is 00:23:07 He's in Alaska right now. Let me tell you what this son of a bitch did this week. No, you finish. Are you planting bamboo? Is that what's about to happen? I might, yeah. You're going to start a bamboo farm? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Get Nathan Hall up here to help you. That's right. We're revitalizing the eastern Kentucky economy by bamboo. Bamboo and carpenter bee colonies. But yeah, that's the end of the story. It's not a story. Well, when you figure out the perfect bamboo recipe, bring it up to my house. I need to camouflage my entire house behind some bamboo to keep
Starting point is 00:23:46 the real estate agents away. That would be helpful for me. And loads of people in Cadillacs. I'll bring it up there for you. Looking at my house. I'll do it. I'll performatively put bamboo around your house. Thank you. Grant to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Well, so, I don't know we're like 25 minutes into the show do you want to do some q a do you want to do some q a do you want to do some confession this is our 100th episode reverend yeah also i think i'm wrong about the seahorses i apologize i accept your apology even jordan missed a few shots and and and he literally had the nerve to say you won't go here with me you're gonna do this with me today he swolled up so big we're gonna do this well hey i thought it was behind us god grow up oh shit well well so we want to do confessions first? What do you think? These are my confessions.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, let's do that. Cue up our galley. I mean, should we, like, so, I mean, I haven't seen the confessions, so you have to tell me. There's a few good ones. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:03 So you have all the confessions y'all didn't get any no i didn't get any people i'm not really i don't really have the confessor type demeanor they only sent the confessions to the good reverend someone they could trust i still like minister because i think it sounds sinister someone who's um but i always had a pastor right um well yeah no you're you're someone whose confidence people can trust in Someone who's... But I always had a pastor. Right. Well, yeah, no, you're someone who's confidence people can trust in. I really have always wanted an advice column. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But audio is way better. Right, right. Well, yeah, let's do some confessions. Why not? All right. I wish I was ready. Maybe after some post-production i can go through and put some some music in here some music over it some synth over it yeah buckle up well let's let's pretend like i'm in a confessions booth okay all right let's call it a uu church there's a pride flag outside would you like me to me i could
Starting point is 00:26:03 i could read them to you you could be the priest oh yeah okay let's do that outside. Would you like me to meet? I could read them to you. You could be the priest. Oh, yeah. Okay, let's do that. Why don't you give me that? Sounds good. Okay, well, let's just make sure. All right, you know, the top one's the one where we're just going to sit on that.
Starting point is 00:26:18 We're just going to sit on that one. Yeah, and then the one that just says, hey, I'll save that for last. Got it. The name, hey. Got it. But though I want to, the first one, okay, here you go. The first one, though, I want to say it's not in there. It was texted to me because the best confession I got was that I'm not the only one
Starting point is 00:26:45 who has masturbated in the Perry County Unemployment Office bathroom. I'm not alone in that. So this one's saving for last. Tell me which one you want me to read. Click on the one you want me to read. The one you want me to start at. This one you saved for last.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Because that one came in a month ago, and they were wanting some advice, and so I'm going to do that now. Okay. But the rest, but this one, no. No.
Starting point is 00:27:12 We're not doing that. Okay. And then all the rest of them. I can do this one? Yeah, that's good. All right. All right. So,
Starting point is 00:27:20 you're the priest, Tanya. Hey, Rev. I wanted to drop a confession. When I was a kid, my abusive asshole father got some sort of gnarly skin infection on his bald head and I used to put Drano
Starting point is 00:27:33 and whatever else I found under the sink in his medicated shampoo. Haven't spoken to the son of a bitch in years but his dome is still messed up to this day. I hate, I hate, hate that's that's great i um i'm gonna say i'll put my full authority of support behind this yeah um another good example of this type of behavior is that for years now my aunt has used uh her husband's toothbrush to clean the toilet years classic bit just a classic bit of they're still married yeah yeah he's a whore i mean i've told you this like i you know i don't really have a hit list but if i did he'd be number two
Starting point is 00:28:19 oh wow he's a horrible person it's like all she gets she also bakes uh muscle relaxers into food so he just knocks him out she doesn't have to deal with him i mean he's a complete maniac he's just an abusive lunatic that's insane so abusive men they get what's coming to them so i guess i could should just say um forgive yourself Yeah, you don't even have anything to forgive. Nothing to worry about. I'm not the priest here, though. Clean conscience. Yeah, I can't.
Starting point is 00:28:50 No position to make a call on this one. I'm not the reverend. Tom, you don't. Where you're in the church, what is below the priest? Is it a bishop or is it a bishop above? Depends what church we're talking about. Yeah, I think that's pretty unilateral. It's just different words.
Starting point is 00:29:08 We'll just be parishioners. This is our own church, the Trillbilly Church. Church of Trillbilly. So, yeah, me and you are just parishioners. And I am the HBIC, so continue. Okay. I have, all right, second confession. I have a confession.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Grew up in the Methodist church. I screened this one before we started, so I know what's coming. It's going to be good. Grew up in the Methodist church. When I was 13, I attended a confirmation class with all the other teens. We all sat around in a circle, and this girl was wearing a skirt across from me, and I rubbed one out during the class. circle and this girl was wearing a skirt across from me and i rubbed one out during the class i love i live in coming georgia and the church is coming first united methodist
Starting point is 00:29:50 the fact that this isn't already a short story that he wrote i got one just curious so i keep they're sitting in a circle and he was pocket pulling i guess so okay well that cleared something up for me i'm not familiar with the pocket pool obviously well clearly uh you've never i can't believe i'm gonna confess this because my parents are 100 going to hear it when i was a child when i was a teenager our computer was in our kitchen and so like yeah yeah so we didn't have enough room in our house to have a separate computer i had so much code like everything was coded yeah all my sex talk was coded and i would just sit there and like look up pictures of britney spears where my mom would be like cooking food and i would do you be doing the pocket pool that's a different level of deviant britney spears oh yeah he's watching hit me baby one
Starting point is 00:30:52 more time videos pocket pool in the kitchen you couldn't watch the videos because that was back in the days of dial-up internet 13k you can't really load a video right right so um well here's some things i would like to say about this the age 13 uh in my uh in my opinion my not so important opinion is the hardest human age 13 hands down like the worst human age you're not a child anymore you're not an adult you're like stuck in this awful limbo adults do not know how to interact with you yeah they treat you mostly either like a child which is upsetting and next we'll talk about the emotional capacity of a 13 year old which is inappropriate yeah right right yeah or they treat you like you're you should be acting older and more mature than you are so you're often just fighting with your
Starting point is 00:31:49 parents like it's just a terrible age and you don't know like you're stuck in between this place like i've literally watched this happen where the 13 year old is like told like don't play with that that's a kid's toy you'll be playing with the kids toys that's their toy that's their shit and then they're like hanging out in the kitchen while cards are being played and they're not cut down get the fuck out of here you know you're you know this ain't for you la la la right literally no space for the 13 year old it's the worst age for sure it is and so and that's not even to take into account how um terrible the emotional just like so physically your body's going through puberty right you're growing hair in places that you can like it's hard to even see like you your body is just
Starting point is 00:32:34 fucking you over your hormones are crazy everything feels so urgent yeah like if you miss a birthday party or something it's like the end of your world. Everything is like heavy. Oh, yeah. I used to get like bad stomach aches before social functions with people. Like debilitating stomach aches because I'd be so stressed out and nervous. Like people, like people don't like me. People are going to like me.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah. When I was 13, it was awful. Yeah. One big slip at 13 and you are just like trashy tashy the rest of your life you know you just like immediately as soon as you is that what they called you no actually that was a girl on one of my dorm floors that was in college this is sick as shit floors that was in college this is sick as shit they one time um on my dorm floor this was my sophomore year um it just started smelling so fucking bad and we could not figure out what the fuck was going on and it took us almost a week until finally they maintenance found some fucking assholes put a bunch of fish dead fish in the fucking ceiling tile in the hallway
Starting point is 00:33:47 outside of her dorm room oh my i think it was girls i think she had like fuck somebody's boyfriend or something we pranked your ass it was horrible man the golden age of pranks is behind yeah but they called her her name was tasha but people called her her... Trashy Tashy. Yeah. All right. Shout out to her. I hope she's in there. Shout out to Trashy Tashy. So, yeah. You know, it's a little...
Starting point is 00:34:11 There's some gray area here if you were not 13. But a 13... I think 13-year-olds should get forgiven for just about everything. Because they're living in a pretty hard hard reality i agree i'd say up until about 18 really as a general rule though pocket pulling particularly in front of the subject of your pocket pulling not not good yeah voyeurism unconsented voyeurism is pretty fucked up yeah you're right at once you're 14 but uh maybe he should put her on his list of his pleasure lineage. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And hit her up. Hit her up. Let her know. Fucking weird. I never would have wanted to know this, actually. All right. Now we got a third one. But it's cool that it's in Cummings, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Cummings, first man of the church. Yeah, that is great. That's a great detail. Thanks for hitting us up. So this one is more asking for advice. Oh, boy. Did you come to the right place? I need advice.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I work at a local radio station that 20 hours of the day spews conservative far-right propaganda. Despite the intense anxiety this causes me, I'm too scared of the instability that might come from quitting and finding other work. I've been in this job since high school, so I don't know what else. I don't know anything else. What should I do? What do you think, Tanya? Well, when I first read this, I wanted to message them back and say, are you in Whitesburg, Kentucky?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, you're talking about Red's... We know you. Yeah. Red's show. Or are you working at the Bulldog? Yeah. I mean, people are working shit jobs everywhere all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It fucking sucks. And as much as we, you know, we even joke about this, as much as right wingers want to pretend like they are the minority, they're like this great minority. Y'all don't want to admit it, but a lot of media outlets, the bulk of them at this point are spewing right right wing media shit like really conservative bullshit yeah even mainstream look if you work at cnn i mean uh you're doing the work for empire even wmmt our radio station will play the hightower report and immediately some guy will talk about how it was good to carpet bomb children in Vietnam. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, well I just have to say that
Starting point is 00:36:50 like, you know, we all work at places where the work we do we don't really agree with necessarily. I mean, I don't anymore. Except for Terrence, I was about to say, you have some unique advice you could give this person. Okay, so I could if you want the Terrence Ray method save up all of your indignations um peeves uh critiques into one self-annihilating
Starting point is 00:37:15 bullshit essay that serves no purpose um and will just get you fired. And then you can just coast off of that for the rest of your life. Or what I'm trying to get my advice to Terrence is to parlay that into a book deal. But again, nobody listens to me. So here we are. That's what they're there for. I'm just careful you don't eat all those cookies. The chunkers are there for everybody to have. Look, we might have mice and carpenter bees, but we also got chunkers.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Cookies. Yeah, you know what? Okay, what you might do is, of course, there are a few routes you can take. You can figure out a way to, I don't know, influence the other 20 hours a day or whatever. The other 20 hours a week. That's not spewing. Did he say 20 hours a day? Yeah, that's a good advice so like the other four hours see how much you can influence that
Starting point is 00:38:11 if it's like 20 hours a day so like basically the whole day is that what he's saying to work at a local radio station that's 20 hours of the day spews concern so basically the whole day or yeah and or outside of the radio station, volunteer at another radio station that maybe it offsets. I don't know. Don't volunteer your time, man. Here's what I would say. Good advice. If you're working at Amazon or if you're working at, you know, wherever it is you're're working it's not like those companies are like
Starting point is 00:38:45 you know paragons of virtue paragons of virtue you know no matter where you work at there's going to be you're selling your labor you're being exploited uh that's the system that my friend you're part of an alienated class yeah i just i would you know do whatever self-work you need to do to not internalize this as your fault this is not your fault yes that's the best this is definitely not your fault so you know here are a couple options you could take the option to find another job try to like start looking i'm on this tip with my mom right now she is working doing way too much physical labor for her age and she is topped out
Starting point is 00:39:26 at twelve dollars an hour they're not going to pay her any more than that and i'm begging her to apply to other jobs but she thinks that as you mentioned like she's been doing this since she was in high school la la la like she doesn't know other things um and probably the best thing that can be on your resume is it's one job for a long time because that's what employers are often looking for loyalty right speaking of someone in the job market who's not really been successful at it but we'll talk a little bit about that in a minute because i think one of the questions we received was about my job oh nice um my friend if you don't like beyonce you don't like beyonce if you like your job keep it if not not yeah i was gonna say the other way if you do decide to leave fucking go out with a bang yeah and do whatever you need to do to slip a day's worth of Trillbillies onto the community radio station.
Starting point is 00:40:26 For sure. Get it in, like, at least just run it all night long while your boss doesn't know. Stick a pin in the hat. That's a good idea. It is a good idea. Just run Trillbillies for 24 hours. Just run Trillbillies on air until the gig is up. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:43 All right. That's good. All right. Next one we got. We got a new one. Good luck, Right. All right. That's good. All right. Next one we got. We got a new one. Good luck, sir. God bless. Bless me, Dolly,
Starting point is 00:40:51 for I have sinned. I kicked a dog and before y'all get too upset, I was still unassisted from the night before and it was in self-defense. I'll elaborate a bit, though. Please do.
Starting point is 00:41:01 That's not a good start. Yeah. I know. When I first heard this, I was like, I'm not putting this on here. But it gets better. Chunker? Please. A friend of a friend hired me's not a good start yeah i don't want to first for this i was like i'm not putting this on here but it gets better chunker please a friend of a friend hired me to build a deck in her backyard this lady is all in on that non-profit shit gentrified the shittiest neighborhood of my
Starting point is 00:41:17 city in the gulf south and complained about her broke neighbors was in the peace corps has filthy rich parents and currently works for a non-profit here i didn't want to do it but needed the money so i took the job poured the footers and set posts the first weekend and was coming back the next saturday to finish the joists and decking that previous friday evening i met up with the buddy for beers whose asshole friend dosed me with about five hits of liquid acid i proceed okay okay i'm sorry man profoundly stoned for the next 15 hours but was four hours late pretended to be hung over instead of coming down i got the job done in the august heat nearly without incident see this lady brought home two things from her time in the peace corps a belief that the world can be a better place through not neoliberal benevolence and an
Starting point is 00:42:03 african street dog that has loved her and has bitten a number of her friends and family members i knew this dog wanted to bite me too because it took a couple swipes at me the previous weekend i repeatedly reminded this lady to keep the dog inside as i would be cornered in the fence in backyard by him if she left she forgot and that should happen i climbed a 10 foot privacy fence in about 1.5 seconds and kicked this dog in the face only two or three times on the way up my best friend is the only other soul i've told this till two till now i feel pretty bad about it and i really love animals appreciate y'all letting me get this off my chest thank you and god bless please just use my first name paul so i mean look i i'm i'm all down for kicking dogs in the face
Starting point is 00:42:48 if they're trying to follow they're trying to bite you that's one thing okay i just thought you were like you know doing like our former coroner here and just yeah just abusing i'm sorry yeah that's uh yeah i get that uh well what I responded to him is that it sounds like this also might be a segment of rich people are deeply, deeply deceased. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. This sounds, yes, absolutely. I'm glad you could get this off your chest and release yourself of any guilt from defending yourself, acid trip or not against this lady's rabid dog. I agree.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Well, I think that's all the confessions. Oh, except for this one. Hey. Alright, you ready for this one? This is the last one. Is that the last one? I think so. There's no other ones on here.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Okay. Alright. Hey. Hi, Bernice. My name's Henry. I was just listening to the trailbilly episode where you mentioned performing or no no is this the same is this the one you're talking yeah i think so okay i was just listening to the trailbilly episode where you mentioned performing
Starting point is 00:43:56 a spring equinox fertility ceremony for your friend i've missed the spring equinox but i was hoping you could maybe suggest something for my wife and i to try any suggestions would be greatly appreciated thank you for being on chillbillies so i got this about a month ago and it immediately made me so sad and this is why that our health care system is so defunct and bullshit that people are having to seek out advice from podcasters about how to get pregnant that's where we're at people so uh this is uh a line for medicare for all for sure um and you know so i did want to elaborate on that so the spring equinox is a good time to try to put fertile energy into the world. One, because it's about spring and blooming and birthing. And we actually, I don't remember when that episode was or us talking about it, but I remember that party. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And we literally put eggs on our altar altar i'm pretty sure it was the episode with slut pill wasn't it i thought maybe yeah because it was yeah because it was for carrie yeah she was trying to get pregnant at the time right and so i still i sent her that message actually was like look i'm claiming ophelia that i've that i've uh i'm responsible for Ophelia. You know, we joked about this recently, but I have heard that diva cups actually are a really helpful way to get pregnant, whether you're queer or not. But because it holds the semen in longer, I can't escape. I mean, I know there are all these physical ways to do this. My God, they got us.
Starting point is 00:45:50 We're trapped in here. See you in hell, boys. Die straight to the egg. Lord. Yeah, but ceremony-wise, I don't know. i think uh very fertile altars altars that have grown plants that are growing and blooming are good eggs um any signs of fertility that you can
Starting point is 00:46:18 think of putting those on your altar cannot hurt yeah that's for sure. Well, you heard it here first. If that doesn't work, I got a playlist for you. What was the name on that? I don't think there was a name. Oh, okay. Henry. Henry.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I got a playlist for you, Henry. Shoot us an email and I'll send it to you. Don't make some good playlists. You thought the confessions were over, but i found one poking around in the inbox and this is gonna clear up a lot for us frankly this one's from jonathan and murray kentucky jonathan writes i am the one who called tom bald i apologize for the undue stress this caused, Tom. I did address this in Speak Your Peace again, but it was not seen as much as the original.
Starting point is 00:47:11 The correction was as follows. I'd like to correct a few things regarding what I said in this here paper about two weeks ago. You may be more of a nodder than a twink, according to your dry snitching. According to your dry snitching witch friend. But to your dry snitching witch friend but buddy that doesn't change much of what i said also your friend is not bald and truthfully looks good in the jean jacket with the pop collar the mustache is a good look as well thank you did y'all see this at speak your peace no i didn't why are our friends not letting us know that we're in speak your peace i don't think our friends read the mountain eagle anymore yeah i don't think it uh trash propaganda yeah well good on you tom tom's been rehabilitated tom's i just i just it
Starting point is 00:47:59 feels good between that and everyone calling you a snack on the last video, you're back in the gold. It's all coming up Sexton, baby. Here's another one, too. I somehow botched a couple of these. Okay. I thought of my confession while I was listening to episode 99 and felt it was thematically appropriate. My dad is a priest, Episcopalian, so he can't have sex. And he would always carry this emergency communion kit in the back of the car
Starting point is 00:48:31 to share with shut-ins and sick people at the hospital and stuff. Well, I really liked the communion wafers as a kid. For as long as I can remember, I would snack on the wafers while riding in my dad's car. And on a number of occasions, my dad would get to the hospital or the nursing home in town and provide the holy sacrament to these old and infirm people and there would be no wafers i got questioned about it once and i swore up and down i had no idea what he was talking about i'm now a 27 year old atheist and i can't kick the hair band. Gotta have that delicious body of Christ every day. To this day, on the rare occasion that I'm in the back of my dad's car,
Starting point is 00:49:12 I still eat the communion wafers, but I always make sure to leave at least one behind. Damn. That's a great confession. That was a good confession. That was a very good one. Yeah. So that's all the confessions you got.
Starting point is 00:49:22 That's all I got. All right. Well, let me double check you. Make sure I don't have any in there. to double check me um i will just note that we are closing in on 50 minutes so when we still got some questions you just want to make this an hour and a half banger let's fucking or the q a actually becomes no No. Not a prayer. Yeah, I'm looking at my requests and they're all fucking man in the DMs.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah. Same here. That's what my DMs are like. Not really. No one's in my DMs except Gals Chat and uh scott benson bombs fall that's about all i got going on over mine too i mean this is pitiful hi dear how are you today and you must have been the second woman god created after eve that's is that a confession
Starting point is 00:50:23 okay it sounds like a robot well let's so then let's go to questions because you got a question from our buddy drew so let's start with those yeah that was a good one okay drew sinian question for y'all does how does it make y'all feel weird to be recognized irl in real life for your podcast and Twitter personas. And he offered a guess. Should I share that too? Yeah. His guess is that I enjoy it. Tonya enjoys it, but only in the right setting.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Like I don't want to be bothered when I'm grocery shopping. Tom acts shy, but actually really loves the interaction. I've never had that happen to me really not once same here T-Ray hates it and runs away from attention depends on the scenario but yeah usually it does depend well this has happened to me numerous times and sometimes it's fine and wonderful and sometimes it's creepy i don't think it's the location it's how it's done like someone ran me down one time and said i heard your voice and i knew it was you and i was like what the fuck and i was real creeped out
Starting point is 00:51:34 like i heard your voice down the hill and i ran all the way here to get to you like oh my god well that's never happened me, but it's never happened in any situation like that. Really? I don't really go to the same places you go to. By that, he means he's just kind of here in the porch. I stay on my hill. Where you'll die. Where I'll die.
Starting point is 00:51:57 We're on this hill. No, I've never been. Never happened to you, Tom. Never happened to me. Interesting. that's never now it's never i've never been never happened to you tom never happened to me interesting i'm usually embarrassed because i feel like my triplets and twitter persona is a very dramatic version of myself well i'm i i would say that's accurate like i've got the waspy like protestant self you know um flagellation thing like i don't deserve i don't deserve the fame i don't deserve the attention it's also important to remember that we're podcasters and therefore
Starting point is 00:52:33 occupied niche on the lower end the actually the lowest rung yeah notoriety so i would say also important particularly when we live in a town of 1600 people but also important to remember that we have maybe a few thousand fans and in a country with 300 million people in it it's very yeah but like i ran into those guys in brooklyn that was cool that's true and they did say that they could tell my voice well the left in this country the left is very tiny and so i run into people all the time that i know through other people on the left. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:08 So you physically run into them? Yeah, yeah. And I've met people who drift through Whitesburg from time to time who know other people that I know in DSA and all these other places. So, you know, the left is just really, really tiny. Well, I mean, I mostly just enjoy meeting people. I'm happy to meet people yeah i am too i like meeting people too yeah so i think all in all we all just like meeting people yeah man we like to meet people where they're at hit us up yeah i mean well here's the thing i don't like which i feel like happens often is someone will dm me a listener and be like hey i'm gonna be in whitesburg tomorrow can we hang out or like can i meet up with y'all or like i'm gonna be in whitesburg in two hours
Starting point is 00:53:47 i'm like uh well i would appreciate a heads up if you like you kind of big dick your listeners i'm like dude i have shit to do tomorrow and i feel like an ass that i can't meet up and say and see you. I mean, people I know do this, too. They're like, hey, I'm going to be there tomorrow. It's like no one has any courtesy. Nobody wants to hang out with me, Terrence. No one has any courtesy for anybody's schedules anymore.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Just like this bitch real estate agent that showed up at my house this week. Look, we're going to take care of that. We're going to get you a nice... Some bamboo. We're going to take care of that. We're going to get you a nice... Some bamboo. We're going to get you some bamboo. We're going to get you settled. House? What house?
Starting point is 00:54:30 Not just bamboo, but bamboo filled with carpenter bees. So, it's your secret. It's like a moat. It's like having a moat. You got to walk through. You can look over here. So, you trying to do this? You trying to do this? You really trying to get into this fucking house? I can look over here. So you trying to do this? You trying to do this?
Starting point is 00:54:45 Really trying to get into this fucking house? I can pull a Tom. Yeah. We doing this right now? All right. So questions. That's all I had.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Tom, why don't you... Let's see what we got here in the archives. Why don't you do some Q&A? This was the one we kind of answered the other day on the bonus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:06 But we wanted to toss this over to you, Tanya, to see exactly how you felt about it. This comes from Alice. And it's a great one. I will say, before you go, all the questions we received are just great. Like, we have intelligent,
Starting point is 00:55:22 smart, I know that those two words mean the same thing we have very smart listeners who ask good questions here we go alice says hearing you fools for the past two goddamn years get sucked back in into progressive democratic party politicians radical posturing only for them to do some dumb shit and you go on the full anti-electoralism spiel rinse repeat is like watching the cycle of abuse play out in real time my question is when will you learn thank you god bless my answer is that alice we do not have good therapists here okay we do not have i've tapped out every therapist in town they all suck
Starting point is 00:56:12 we do not have access to good mental health care and that's the only excuse i have for us that's a great answer excellent answer we are we are absolutely locked in cycles of abuse as kentucky voters 100 but i also want to say because i thought a little bit about this last night too i thought a little bit more about this because i've this is this is the thing i've been trying to figure out for like a year now it's like why do i even give a shit and the thing is is that like sort of like we mentioned on the last patreon anytime you have a mass movement of people openly calling themselves socialist in this country which is a traditionally conservative reactionary racist country it's no
Starting point is 00:57:00 it's noteworthy and if they want to engage through the electoral system, then I don't really agree with it necessarily in terms of presidential politics. But if we're talking about city councils and state legislatures and stuff like that, I think that is a worthy place to sort of, as you say, stick the shovel in. Put your shovel in yeah but also um
Starting point is 00:57:27 i was listening to this podcast uh the dig um and they had doug henwood on this guy this writer and he was talking about like you know it's totally normal to be skeptical of bernie like presidency is the bourgeoisie's office that's that's the bourgeoisie's office. That's the bourgeoisie's office. And so it's, you know, you gotta have a reasonable sort of analysis of these things. That's what I say. Is that anyone who wants to be president?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah, you shouldn't trust them, for sure. Or you should at least be skeptical. At least. Somebody wants to be alderman or notary public, maybe, you know, give them the benefit of the doubt. Right. A real workman, real workman real workman like right position but i want to add to that like i just want to say that as we were just saying a minute
Starting point is 00:58:11 ago the left is also extremely small in this country and uh and we i think that our principal you know sort of aim right now is activating people. And however people become activated, if it is through Bernie Sanders' campaign, then I'm interested in it. And that's the only reason why I even keep up with it. Because we need numbers. As, you know, we know they have nukes and tanks. We need numbers. And so I think that certain campaigns could activate people in a way that
Starting point is 00:58:47 bring them into that i do think i qualify that i do think that some on the dsa left are a little too sort of optimistic and cavalier about the sort of magic that a campaign like aocs or bernie's could produce um but at the same time, I think it's worthwhile. I can't believe I'm saying that. We also want our student loans canceled. That's the basic question. I mean, I would like my student loans canceled. I'd like healthcare,
Starting point is 00:59:19 but I would like revolution way more. I'll say that. Well, I know that that sounds absurd. You kind of get all that with revolution. Well, maybe. I don i know that that sounds absurd you kind of get all that with revolution well maybe i don't know about health care but you think we're gonna cut everybody's head off and then go back yeah sorry you're still in these loans i mean yeah we definitely get rid of the loans health care is a question yeah there was a point i want to make about that but i guess maybe in some of the later questions we'll sort of dance around it um well what did you all say
Starting point is 00:59:46 on the patreon basically give it to the people for free give it yeah what did we say on the patreon tom uh what oh shit basically that we live in a place where electoral politics yeah yeah non-starter basically you know what i'm saying like we can we i mean and that's not necessarily true i mean we can sort of focus on state politics and like local municipal politics and stuff like that but in terms of like um presidential electoral politics and stuff like that or our congressional and especially our senatorial races that's it's a non-starter like we're not going to be get we're not going to be able to get mitch mcconnell out of office until we have some sort of political revolution well yeah it's just like the senate is just a sick system right the senate i mean there's just the world's most undemocratic legislature yeah it's no truly it is i mean from the senate to the electoral college it's just all
Starting point is 01:00:46 we got we got high problems yeah um and so it feels whatever well the thing i guess if if just to sort of retread the same path is that like i think the reason why there is this cycle abuse abuse like as they put it like when will we learn i think the reason is because we have to juggle several different things in our minds one of which is that like we know that no real change can come through the system as it exists that you have to smash the system basically especially the senate and the judiciary which are the two most undemocratic institutions in this country and um and so for all bernie's talking about like political revolution like well what that actually would mean would be yeah throwing the constitution out throwing the senate out throwing the judiciary out completely remaking uh the political landscape and he's not
Starting point is 01:01:39 talking about any of that stuff he says it and a lot of the people on that are sort of adjacent to him say we want a political revolution but i'm not convinced yet you've got to fucking convince me you got to convince us that that you actually do want to smash the structure because are you gonna cut your own head off or not bernie well a lot i think a lot of people really aren't satisfied with the system and i think that you would find a lot of people out there who would be like, let's burn this motherfucker down. I think that's right. I think, I mean, it's doing, whatever it is right now,
Starting point is 01:02:12 Bernie's thing is impressive enough as is. Yeah. Imagine if you upped the ante a little bit more. Well, and the thing is, it's like, I don't think- I mean, he's in perfect position to do that. He's in perfect position to do it. And if his whole philosophy for running is like, oh, I'm not even going to win anyways
Starting point is 01:02:26 and might as well just shift the Overton window in the discourse, well then fuck it, man. Say you won a political revolution. You might as fucking well if you know you're not going to win. The Overton window! I was trying to think of that a few episodes ago and y'all treated me like a dumbass. Like I didn't know what I was talking about. That's what I was looking for.
Starting point is 01:02:42 What was the content? I can't remember. Forget it. Forget it. But also, I just want to say, Alice, that the real short answer here is that it's good fodder for podcasting. It's also good content. It is good content. This comes from Ian. Ian says, Dear T, T, and T, congrats on the 100th episode of your podcast. I found it late last year after a series of personal failures.
Starting point is 01:03:06 First, I quit my anxiety-inducing job at a health insurance company. Good job, Ian. I did this because I decided that if I didn't take a stab at parlaying my sideline writing gig into a full-time gig, I'd regret it. Boy, that didn't work out, so I'm back in the small town in which I grew up working for a nonprofit whose usefulness is highly dubious where does that sound familiar uh yeah needless to say your podcast has become very important to me i'm a patreon subscriber with like a size medium t-shirt i have a couple questions for the episode if you could be answer any them, I'd be very grateful.
Starting point is 01:03:47 One. Like many, 2016 broke my brain. I found some comfort and left Twitter, but quickly found that putting the ideas from there into practice and floating them in conversation with my lib friends alienated me. It was mostly them accusing me of being unrealistic while finding every conceivable way to play devil's advocate i'd i'd have called myself a lib before 2016 i think it's fair to say left twitter radicalized me i want to know if you think every lib has a radicalization threshold or if some just have a predisposition to it is it the onus of the left to pull libs to this threshold or is that impossible um tom do you have any thoughts on that well i we can certainly empathize with all of that oh here's the thing here's the thing i would say i
Starting point is 01:04:39 saw boots riley say this is like when when we cast liberals aside we're basically we're basically just casting a lot of the working class aside to in their politics in terms of how they relate to it in my opinion in my opinion i don't know if there's necessarily radicalization threshold and how that like somebody might have a carb threshold you know, they start putting on weight after they eat so many carbs in a day. But what I would say is that I think, you know, in my opinion, I think that we should try to win as many people as can be won to it. I almost look at it as like proselytization in some ways. It's not a one toto-one with church shit, like trying to go witness to people for Christ,
Starting point is 01:05:28 but the actual act of, you know, like we were talking about with Marx, like sort of getting this bourgeois revolution first. I think that's sort of a role that people like us could play. And I mention that just because he says he's in the non-profit-y world. You know what I mean? Trying to get people to think about things that don't necessarily apply to them in the
Starting point is 01:05:55 same way it would apply to somebody that's, you know, hanging drywall for a living or whatever the case may be. Yeah. I think that, um, I think that's that's right well you're more charitable than me i'm trying to be charitable this time somebody's got balance of that you're okay well then if you want me to balance it out go for it i i will i will say fuck liberals you're not going to change their mind um and this is what i learned from my experience there is something about the liberal mindset that prides itself on bootlicking i don't know what it is but i will say this and it can
Starting point is 01:06:32 actually get dangerous thinking that liberals are your friend actually could be incredibly dangerous because they will sell your ass out the first chance they get well here's why i say this you're absolutely right but i'd say to this is i think we have to make there's a distinction between liberals yeah between i think there's people that call themselves liberals because they don't have an articulation of left politics because nobody has like introduced that to them right and those people i think can be trusted and can be won there are people that are absolutely thrilled positively thrilled by liberalism that think that they want to throw parades for liberalism well i think all of this it's i mean i i don't mean to say this to just like grandiose but it's
Starting point is 01:07:13 like white supremacy like liberals are in essence they're white supremacists like the the the um systems that they are fine with and think that are going to deliver us that more or less work for them yes they work for them and i mean i mean yeah like i i think that if you are working to uproot white supremacy in this country you're working to uproot liberalism i get a big scheme of things yeah no i think that's right um i think there's an important there's an important class distinction to make right which is that um for me when i think of liberalism i think of the new yorker and i think it and it's the perfect embodiment of it because it is they can you can read an article in the new yorker and you're like damn this is a fucked up
Starting point is 01:08:01 aspect of society mass incarceration goddamn like they nailed it but then their solutions become well let's just tinker around the edges with non-profits and sort of incrementalism and like let's just hope that that amounts to some sort of liberation or something like that and that's what I take issue with and the reason why that that's their approach to things is because they do fundamentally love the status quo yeah and uh the minute you challenge that they'll throw your ass out on the curve you know it's something i got i it was one of my big takeaways from aside haters uh um mistaken identity book was this that i'd never really thought about is there's almost an equation to liberalism's relationship to conservatism and leftism.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Liberalism has to have somebody to debate with to exist. That's the conservative role. The leftist has no no implication for liberalism's existence. In fact, liberalism exists only to neutralize leftism. Yeah, for sure. And I think that's something, too, you have to think about when you're engaging a certain type of liberal that we're talking about here, what you're describing, the liberal that has predisposed to bootlicking and all that kind of stuff. I think that type of liberalism exists strictly to neutralize leftism.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Absolutely, 100%. But there's another type of liberalism, which I wouldn't even call liberalism exists strictly to neutralize leftism. 100%. But there's another type of liberalism, which I wouldn't even call liberalism. I would just call it sort of like left purgatory or something. Where you know shit is wrong. Are we not in left purgatory? Yeah, no, I mean, like liberals bomb countries, you know. Like the Vietnam War was done by liberals. By liberals.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, make no mistake about it. So, no, that's a good question. That's a good question. Was there a second part to it? No, that was that. Well, you said there were two questions in it. There was three, but I wanted to just be a little judicious with our time here and get up with other people's questions. And that's the softball you picked us?
Starting point is 01:10:12 I thought it was a good one. Oh, shit. I'm sorry. You unplugged me again. Can you hear yourself? Yeah. Okay. um yeah and i just you know i can empathize with him feeling like he's just uh on repeat having the same stupid conversations with his liberal friends until he dies yeah um but yeah so just maybe just
Starting point is 01:10:32 let yourself off that hook yeah no look i've learned in life that you very rarely change anybody's minds go for the apolitical people and the apathetic people in conversation like oh in conversation yeah yeah there are plenty of ways like i mean well even we don't need to get into even over the course of years i've had conversations with people and uh still i've seen very little result also conversation it's a good point you make conversation is actually a liberal thing it's very passive. Right, right. Yeah, it's, you know, you're going to come closer to this by organizing with people. Exactly. And because organizing around the right issues will push their worldview. It'll have to.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Great answer. This one comes to us from Alaric, who says, howdy. Got a question for y'all. to us from Alaric, who says, howdy. Got a question for y'all. Even though it seems like the podcast has bent more towards a state government-led form of communism, which I would categorize myself under, are y'all aware of any sort of anarchist movement in Kentucky or across Appalachia at large? Seems like anarchist discourse is often centered on it as an urban movement, especially in the States.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Also, any general thoughts on the role of anarchism in an ascending leftist movement would be appreciated. Anybody want to fill that one? We got plenty of anarcho-liberals. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Plenty of people who call themselves anarcho-liberals oh yeah i would say yeah that's what i was thinking i was like plenty of people who call themselves anarcho-capitalist yeah plenty of people who are liberals but call themselves anarchists i know plenty of people who live off the grid it might be a sort of anarchist like libertarian like yeah thing yeah yeah um as far as like their role in a growing left um i'm not an anarchist but people are just gonna
Starting point is 01:12:31 be anarchists there's really all that you can i mean you're not gonna convince anybody not to be an anarchist i mean there is a regional network of antifa folks who have been organizing against who have been like directly fucking fighting nazis right at their conferences and shit um for the past few years and a couple years at least now um who i think call themselves anarchists yeah it does seem to me that – so there's this controversial, like, thing on Chapo, I guess, recently where Vivek Chibber said that anarchism now is basically useless. It used to have a sort of role in leftist movements in the late 19th century, and then it's basically – it's lived out its historical purpose. And I don't think – I don't agree with that. I don't think, I don't agree with that.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Um, but like, and I think that, uh, but in terms of like their role in a leftist movement, like people, people have legitimate reasons for resisting authority. Um, and, and I, and I don't hold that against anybody. If they, if they are not, if that's not their thing, if they don't believe in any kind of like Leninist type of organizing model or a state centered form of communism or anything, if they if they are not if that's not their thing if they don't believe in any kind of like leninist type of organizing model or a state-centered form of communism or anything like that's we can we can debate about that yeah it's like uh it's not it's not i'm not an anarchist but left solidarity but also i feel like honestly me like hanging out with anarchists right out of college and reading a couple books that romanticize anarchist communities. Like the anarchist cookbook?
Starting point is 01:14:11 No, I didn't have the cookbook. But I feel like that almost saved me from full liberal drowning in five years of statewide organizing. Yeah. So I don't know i think it's i think it's a little um i don't know i wouldn't say that there's like no space for people to hold views like this at some point in their life like in in in everyone's complicated um journey to socialism or whatever well i think that um it's like i was saying earlier the left is still very small and we need as many people as we can get i mean so i'm not going to uh try to scold people out of, you know. Being an anarchist or whatever you want to identify with. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:08 I know what I believe in. I would consider myself a communist, but there's a lot of caveats with that. I'm not like a Leninist necessarily. But, you know, I'm not an anarchist. So I can just tell you that. But I do have some anarchist tendencies, I feel like. Anyways. Tanya's a relationship anarch anarchist what's that mean
Starting point is 01:15:27 i am a dance anarchist i fucking hate line dancing or square dancing any kind of dancing where people tell you how to dance i like to fucking do my own goddamn thing that means that a relationship anarchist then what is that how does this translate i've just i don't know you know what that means this question comes from maria maria writes sorry if i'm spelling your name wrong terrence but she nailed it or they nailed it but i'm still but i'm too lazy to look it up my question is how are you making it without a job buddy i'm worried about you also where's my t-shirt thanks let me just say um i so what uh the way that i'm making it is that i saved a wealthy senator from choking on a hot dog in a stagecoach and he's now my wealthy patron
Starting point is 01:16:28 and um now we travel all over the states i'm i am a degenerate gambler and have sex with everybody and i'm giving him a bad reputation you're casting over yeah um No, I actually do have a job now. I'm not telling you where, because you jackals will fucking get me doxxed. And this is how I lost my last goddamn job. But I have a part-time job now in the service industry. That's right. I'm back. And your generous Patreon money. So fucking give to patreon my generous patreon money
Starting point is 01:17:06 and i do a little writing here and there i dabble i dabble this one comes from kevin in florida who has one for each of us we'll start with tanya's tanya when i do tarot for myself I seem to usually pull powerful feminine cards. What does this mean? Well, I mean, in my opinion, this is a flaw of traditional tarot that it's so gendered. Like you're just pulling powerful cards. just pulling powerful cards um and i actually um have a new tarot deck on the way that's all it's like an all-fifth deck but it's just like um the genders in tarot should probably be dismissed more than they are um that's my kind of interesting that's my answer like i don't i think you're just pulling
Starting point is 01:18:06 strong cards which is great that's great news it's good for you and often when you when you pull tarot cards that are figures like the knight well you must be um pulling like the empress the uh queen if you're saying you're pulling strong female cards um so and these cards can either represent you as a person like things that you are doing or need to do or they can represent mentors people you need to seek advice from so it's kind of hard to say so in such general terms but i would mostly just say that the gender binary is violent and killing us. And we should dismiss it from tarot if it's going to be useful. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Good answer. For Terrence, the question is, Terrence, what other supplies do you and Leon need delivered to the cave in the woods? You must choose one book, one drug drug one canned vegetable of endless supply one weapon for joining popular revolt and one musical instrument or album fucking a why didn't you send me this in advance i could have prepared some kind of answer well that's what's better this way you to just think on your toes. So, one book. Maybe I should start there. Okay, here, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Let's do this. Choose one book. One book. Probably, I don't know, what's a book that I've read a lot? The Zen Reader. Yeah, man. Pulling Down the Land. The State by Steven Pinker. the zen reader yeah man pulling down the blank state by steven pinker drawing down the moon yeah the anarchist cookbook yeah um the bibble you read that a lot terrence i have read the bible why don't we just say the bible fuck it it'll get you through some hard times i'll let you think about that one
Starting point is 01:20:06 we'll come back to one drug uh weed obviously that one's not even a easy easy one canned vegetable of endless supply this is rough yeah that one is tough um you got to make it green. I would say probably spinach if it's a canned vegetable. I mean, I could eat that shit like Popeye. Hearing some bad things about iron content in blood these days. That's true. I do have high iron. You have high iron? Yeah, when I go to donate blood, that's what they tell me.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Every time they're like, oh, this will make you feel better. They take all my blood out. One weapon for joining popular revolt well um a microphone got her right here baby um i don't know you need a.30-06 or something. You want some kind of rifle that'll give you some distance. Because look, we're fighting a guerrilla war here, goddammit. A protracted people's war.
Starting point is 01:21:12 You'll definitely run out. You should get a bow. You should use a bow. Because you can turn anything into an arrow. She's right. It's sustainable. A bow is sustainable. So...
Starting point is 01:21:23 I would go with a magic wand so i could just get whatever weapon i needed uh one musical instrument or album um well definitely i guess if you're in a cave all my electronic instruments are out right you got nowhere to it's mythical this is mythical it's so our albums i suppose dc talk supernatural good answer i'm gonna take your drum set with the plexiglass yeah i'll set it up in front of the cave and just play in the cave and you just go deaf close system like two days uh for me tom can you elaborate on your thoughts about tyler childers and sturgill simpson oh please rewind living the dream tom here's what i say here's what i say i owe tyler childers an apology
Starting point is 01:22:19 i made some comments about maybe I haven't. I like Tyler Childress music. I like Sturgill Simpson's music. I think my gripe with this whole sort of milieu of, you know, quote unquote, tasteful country or the guys or gals that are, quote unquote, saving country music is just a little played to me and a little you know little also a little class it's like if you want to fucking listen to florida georgia line fucking listen to florida georgia line i'm with you on that but i like both her music so like nope why don't why don't country singers make music for the working class anymore god damn it granted i mean you can make those songs about the working class but what happened to make it 40 hour living you're making now you're making songs about uh you know for the
Starting point is 01:23:10 beer craft set yes exactly now they're making that's exactly right tom now they're making songs for the beer brewery your craft set i'd say i'd say tyler children's of all those is not doing that you know i think he's got some good working class songs. Nose to the grindstone others. Women of country have always been making good country music. Damn. For the working class. Well.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Well, you're right. The only reason I just, he just said Tyler and Sturgill specifically. Don't slay me, Clay. I just mean they like Dolly, even Pistol like even new even like miranda lambert who's winning the fucking awards most of her songs are for working class people yeah yeah yeah what about angelina presley martin county's angelina she's posted a picture yeah she was posted i said pistol annies angelina presley amy monroe but also in another way i can't be too mad at a genre that's been dominated by my fellow countrymen eastern kentuckians so that's you're shooting yourself
Starting point is 01:24:13 in the feet it's good for uh it's representation's important terrence did y'all see that little x that thing little x noz little noz x yeah He delivered a fucking Miata or something. No, it was another M. Fancy car. Miata's not a fancy car. Anyway, he delivered a car to Billy Ray Cyrus this week. A Mercedes, maybe? No. Didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:24:33 To celebrate their song being number one for like seven weeks. Damn. My man is about to hit a little thing we like to call one-hit wonder status. That's all right, man. If he flames out, it was a beautiful flame out. Absolutely. No, I want to shit on this red. You let me have this, though.
Starting point is 01:24:54 No. Cut him off. Cut him off. Sean in Melbourne, Australia, writes... I'm sorry, Sean, that was so bad. Can you come to Melbourne, Australia? We have socialist movements growing here that much of the world doesn't know about. Sean, we have a correspondence with Mr. Sam Wallman down there in Melbourne. My favorite cartoonist is in Melbourne. Who's your favorite cartoonist? Sam Wallman. Sam Wallman down there in Melbourne. My favorite cartoonist is in Melbourne.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Who's your favorite cartoonist? Sam Wallman. Sam Wallman? No. I'm going to look up their name right now. I would love to go to Australia and shout out to Sam
Starting point is 01:25:37 if you're listening to this. Let's make it happen. Yeah, just get Sam to make us come down there. We'll come down there. I'd do anything for Sam. They were Girl Mountain on Tumblr for years,
Starting point is 01:25:48 but it's The Adventures of Megan Mogg. Y'all seen Megan Mogg? No. Sam, do you know Megan Mogg? Sure you know Megan Mogg. Well, we'd like to go.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, fuck yeah. I know this is probably the worst thing you can say because probably people in Melbourne hate this, but I'd like to go. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, fuck yeah. I know this is probably the worst thing you can say because probably people in Melbourne hate this, but I would like to go to the Australian Open tennis tournament. It's probably like, you know, like fucking the worst thing ever for the town. Oh, shit. What do you guys got over there? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I don't think I have my phone with me i've got while we're trying to find some other questions i have a couple of confessions for the reverend over here that i overlooked if we can get to those i heard reverend turner would be taking confessions on the 100th episode as well one time at the southgate house in newport kentucky the bartender handed me back someone else's credit card when i closed my tab before going back to my actual card I went to a nearby liquor store and bought a pack of smokes probably goes without saying but I'd like to be I'd like this to be an anonymous confession thanks and sending love to y'all from Columbus Ohio that's a great confession that they use somebody else's credit card to buy a pack of smoke yeah that's pretty good
Starting point is 01:27:06 just a harmless little my favorite story from the past couple months and this who knows when this actually happened but i just heard it in the past couple months is that um a girl in a bar this guy was like hitting on her and she was like okay give me your phone i'll put my number in it and she vented herself to grand oh shit that's perfect like drunk guy wouldn't cold as i wouldn't leave her alone and so she venn mode herself to green that's great that's awesome fucking killer um the melbourne melbourne um artist is simon hanselman simon hanselman cool yeah that does megamon it's um one of my favorite comic strips it's a um drugged out witch and her black cat boyfriend nice hell yeah that's extremely i can relate to that very on brand
Starting point is 01:27:54 uh this one comes from zoe uh first things first tom should record bedtime stories for patreon subscribers i would increase my patrons for bedtime stories say no more big zoe you might as well do that we ain't getting t-shirts uh a confession forgive me true abilities for i have sinned i spend a lot more time thinking about what i would do if i were put in a situation where i had to enact violence to achieve liberation for myself or for others it's something I worry about quite a bit. I want to know if this is something you guys have thought about. I think ultimately I just don't want to be a coward if I have to make the choice to protect myself, or I'm sorry, to protect somebody more vulnerable than myself. Obviously I'm putting the cart before
Starting point is 01:28:40 the horse here because who the fuck knows what is going to happen. And I should focus on what I can do here and now. But it's still a concern. On some level, I understand paranoid people and... I'm not sure what that word is. Assholes and doomsday preppers who are always worried about being prepared because you have to... When you feel existentially threatened at a low level over a long enough period, it can weigh on your mind. I'm only a few years into feeling truly existentially threatened. Not because I've never been, but because my consciousness has been muted for decades by anxiety and preoccupations with interpersonal relationships.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Sparkly fingers on that one. Plus being white. Also being from southwestern Pennsylvania, Fayette County. Sparkly fingers on that one. Plus being white. Also being from southwestern Pennsylvania, Fayette County. You definitely grow up internalizing that politics don't matter and nothing in this world has anything to do with you. So it takes some time to synthesize that there's a world out there and the folks around you are part of that world. It's a perspective I wouldn't have had if i hadn't grown up in appalachia and presents significant barriers when trying to communicate with people who didn't grow up experiencing that but it makes us appalachians uniquely prepared i think for the work ahead anyway thanks for the show it keeps me sane god bless can you go back up to the very top um
Starting point is 01:30:01 with the there was a question at the very beginning. Basically, I want to know if this is something you guys have thought about. Basically, I spent a lot of time thinking about what I would do if I were put in a situation where I had to enact violence to achieve liberation for myself or for others. Right. Okay. I mean, I don't. Is anyone under the illusion that nonviolent revolution is possible? I don't. Is that a thing?
Starting point is 01:30:38 I think that. Isn't this a liberal fairy tale? Well. I think nonviolence is a tactic, a good tactic that i that will be used in the revolution and it's not going to be a completely non-violent there's not going to ever be a completely non-violent revolution well i think that i struggle with this too because i'm like i like my cats i like my house i like my life you know like i like my house. I like my life, you know? Like, I like my... I like my little creature comforts I've accumulated. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:31:07 But you can't... I think that when I say that, like, I want revolution or whatever, it's not like I want the left to seize state power. It's not like I want some sort of like takeover of the government or something like that when i say what we need revolution and we really do need it it's what i mean is that we we need one we need one of the old types of revolutions something that reverses the entire sort of like philosophical drive of the last 400 years and especially of the last like 30 or 40 years something that like um i don't know society is just rickety it's just artificial it's old it's
Starting point is 01:31:53 got it needs to be swept aside and replaced with something new and i don't think that that necessarily means that we need to like get our guns and like go um sort of storm the white house i think what it means is like we've got to build up as many numbers as possible but we've also got to like our notions of what revolution would look like they're they're totally sort of like bogged down in the 20th century if we're talking about a revolution in the 21st century and this is why people need to read the marsh trilogy by kim stanley robinson because if we're talking about what a revolution would look like in the 21st century we're gonna need scientists and we're robinson because if we're talking about what a revolution would look like in the 21st century we're going to need scientists and we're going to need engineers
Starting point is 01:32:28 and we're going to need people who can work in like hacking and cyber security and stuff like that like those are the sort of fronts where we need to be able to figure out how like to locate choke points and to sort of shut down avenues of commerce and get people out in street demonstrations and mobilization. Right. It's not necessarily a seize of political power. First, the seize of labor power. Right. Well, it's using labor power to basically shut it down. And so it's a combination of things. It's like maybe some old things like general strikes and like i said street mobilizations but new things
Starting point is 01:33:06 like figuring out how to this is why we need scientists we need to we need communication systems that are resilient and can withstand power outages and stuff like that we need to figure out how to hack we i mean like not us literally but we need people who can do stuff like that so it's not like we just need a more dynamic view of what revolution would look like and it's gonna involve some discomfort and I think that all of us are daily asking ourselves if we can do it.
Starting point is 01:33:35 But I think about it a lot. I guess that's the question. I think about it all the time. It's like, could I actually? I occasionally use this to motivate myself to work out. Do you? I'm like, i'm gonna have to run i'm gonna have to do things well like we're not even in we're not even remotely close i mean what we have to do is wait for some sort of trigger event we're not even remotely close to that happening yeah some of it is just waiting yeah are we even ready
Starting point is 01:34:05 for the trigger of yet right that's what i'm saying then again who knows a lot of revolutions in the past have happened when people just weren't even paying attention or ready right exactly most revolutions take people off guard or or what's the classic uh marx line about 10 years happens in a week sometimes or something oh it's linen yeah or linen line i'm sorry did i say marks um yeah i think it's something like yeah one week can happen in 10 years and 10 years can 10 years can happen in a week sometimes just wacky shit like a tree branch falls on somebody and then there you go there's your like history can just sort of take off and sparkle yeah right so
Starting point is 01:34:45 sometimes it's just dumb random luck shit that starts that literally we should be starting to try to create our own luck we should and that's why i'm saying we need scientists we need engineers we need people that can sort of uh podcast we need well i was gonna say like you know if if if we're prioritizing things we should be doing to prepare ourselves i think it's more about building community and like building a network of people that you trust and um can kick ideas around with and can maybe even like survive with yeah outside of you know there's like i'd say there's probably several other things that i would put above that on a priority list even if we just start talking about how to prepare for any any random any revolution i think we're talking about
Starting point is 01:35:37 the same thing i think that it's included in that i think that you're talking about mutual aid and if we're talking about sort of mutual aid societies like we need people we need a sort of like diverse set of skills and interests and and for instance liam neeson's from the taken series for instance i happen to be sitting on a stockpile of plan b right now i'm very proud of that yeah for sure yeah hit me up if you need any plan b yeah doctors uh stuff like that you know what i mean like we need those we need professionals but we and of course we need um workers like the two we need a bourgeois revolution as well as your classic worker revolution probably unfortunately i'm hoping that's not the case resource generations yeah well the thing is
Starting point is 01:36:28 is those motherfuckers will never get there they'll just keep doing the feelings caucus and talking about their stupid goddamn guilt until we have to actually use violence against right right so hopefully we don't get to a place where we're like because look it's like we said on the patreon episode if you work 15 hours a day hours a day, you're not going to want to get off work and go train to be a paramilitary guerrilla. That's just not where people are at. People are demoralized and they're beaten down. And we have to figure out a way to activate them,
Starting point is 01:36:59 get them class and politically conscious, and get them, like you said, into sort of mutual aid, mutual aid sort of configurations and communities that can sort of enact some sort of leverage when that trigger event happens. Yeah, we need a long term solutions is really what it is. And the thing is, is a lot of people on the left. And that's the thing that was really disturbing about that thing in the New Republic that Doug Henwood wrote was that a lot of people on the left are very hesitant to make long-term plans right now it's all about the short term it's like look climate change has already started and there's nothing we can do at this point to start to stop what's coming um we can sort of try to mitigate it a couple decades down the line but
Starting point is 01:37:40 we need to we need long-term plans i mean it seems, it seems like it's going to be a climate revolution. I mean, if I had to put money on what a trigger event is going to be, it's going to be a climate. It's going to be a climate event. Yeah, it's going to be like... And the violence is going to probably be triggered by the climate. A lot of people are probably going to die. You know what I mean? There's going to be some scary thing.
Starting point is 01:38:03 That's going to happen. There's no doubt about that Like, there's going to be some scary thing. Well, that's going to happen. There's no doubt about that. Well, the thing is, it's already happening. That's really what sort of, you've got refugee crises, you know, asylum seekers. Like, a lot of this is because of climate catastrophe. Exactly. And so it's already happening. And so then this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I think, and we've talked about this a lot, the left needs to abandon this idea that there is a climate apocalypse coming. Like, a lot of people think, like, oh, if we're even going to be here in 10 years, ha ha ha. We are. We are going to be here in 10 years. And we're going to be miserable. And it's going to be bad. Like, the coming apocalypse is not going to be in the climate necessarily. It's going to be in political economy.
Starting point is 01:38:40 We're going to get eco-fascism. The Republicans understand this, and this is why they were talking about the arctic yeah they're there notice how the republicans don't talk anymore about whether climate change is real or not they all know that it's fucking real and they're preparing for it yeah they're certainly not going to come back around be like okay you guys got us exactly well the thing about they're ahead they're skipping 10 steps ahead. Exactly. They don't have to. They have to. That's how deeply unpopular reactionaries stay in powers, because they're good at forecasting and preparing for the weather.
Starting point is 01:39:13 So, yeah, that's a really long answer of saying, in our lifetimes, we may not even see that kind of violence, but our children probably will. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome style. Yeah, but even then, I don't even know that the environment will really look... There will still be 10 billion people on this planet in 100 years.
Starting point is 01:39:34 There's not going to be some mass die-off because the sea levels are rising. I mean, granted, their birth rates are declining around the world, but I still think we're on track to be at around 10 billion people in 100 years. Well, I think there will be. I don't think it's going to be like a mass extinction event, but there will be places you cannot live anymore. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:39:54 And there will be people die because of that kind of stuff. Absolutely. Or if they can't figure out how to get someplace where you can live. But yeah, it's not going to be like an ice age just hits us in 10 years and there we go. We all go into the void. And people aren't going to have money to move. Like, it's not going to be like an ice age just hits us in 10 years and there we go we all go into the void and people aren't going to have money to move like it's just going to be the same it's going to be i mean the our our generation's most vivid memory or understanding of this is hurricane katrina it's just going to be like that over and over it's just going to be like spit i mean we're already seeing it um yeah well we need long-term plans and uh if you're scared like we're scared too
Starting point is 01:40:31 yeah we're scared if you're not scared right you need more therapy right here's a good one to kind of to put a bow on it with since we're taking it more local here. Great. For the 100th episode, Andy writes, You guys have talked about the incarceration statistic in Kentucky that if things keep up, every person in the state will be sent to jail or prison in the next 100 years. My question is this. Who's going to be the first Trillbilly to get sent to prison and what's their crime?
Starting point is 01:41:07 Me for mechanophilia Jesus Christ on Tom's broke down truck in your driveway yeah fuck I'm gonna fuck Tom's truck you can't fuck anywhere since it's been fucked got no goddamn tailgate got a goddamn 2x4
Starting point is 01:41:23 holding the shit in it might be me for the trash bags it might be all three of us at once for not paying our taxes or something like that the government could get us mine would be a finance crime probably check cutting money laundering or something like that definitely i have i've been investigated by the secret service for internet gambling before that that did happen to me yeah Yeah. So that's just, you know. Yeah. Shit, baby. That's just life I live. Dangerous
Starting point is 01:41:51 Tom, they call me. That's right. So, yeah. Tom's going to jail for gambling. Yeah. I don't really, I mean, obviously the illicit you know, drugs that I do. Just weed, you know. Even then, Tom you know, drugs that I do. Just weed, you know.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Even then, Tom's got more weed than I do. I'm snitching on him on the podcast. God damn. Who's the dry snitch now? Tanya, what's your crime? What are you going to prison for? I don't know. Crime of passion.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I was about to say, hopefully my career takes off as a sex worker. And that's what I go down for. That's my hopes and dreams. Yeah. I don't have a fucking boss anymore. I don't know. I mean, I'll probably snap in public on somebody or something. I'll be on my
Starting point is 01:42:36 period and somebody will fucking cut me off and I'll just like take out ten cars and just go loose. I don't know. Pull somebody out of the car and just stack it on their face. It's like, god damn, Ponyo, snap.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Fucking snap. She fucking spazzed on this one. Well, that's an hour and 45 minutes, folks, so I hope you got all your questions and confessions answered. Happy 100th episode. Happy, happy. we have about 50 or 55 more episodes on the patreon so i guess technically this is probably something more like
Starting point is 01:43:12 the 150th episode so yeah but um but this is our 100th free episode we like to you know give it all free to you for free uh you know unless you want to pay us for it, which you should. You get a little extra if you pay for it. Yeah, patreon.com. But don't hold out for that t-shirt. And I did, well, here's what, I did make an edit to the Patreon. Because we had to stop the bleeding. I will see to it that we honor.
Starting point is 01:43:41 If you subscribe before this past Saturday, after six months of patrons, you will receive your t-shirt. But if you subscribe after, we're going to figure out something else for you. I'll let you take care of all that. I don't even know. I'm under no illusion there's going to be any t-shirts. Tonya is a t-shirt agnostic.
Starting point is 01:44:04 I'm a t-shirt nihilist. I'm a truther. And you're a t-shirt agnostic. I'm a t-shirt nihilist. I'm a truther. And you're a t-shirt truther, I guess. Oh, speaking of which, we have a mock-up here. There it is. Another one? Go to the Patreon, P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com slash Trailbilly Workers Party. Get all 50-something goddamn episodes there and listen to them
Starting point is 01:44:26 and hang out with your friends thank you for your confessions thank you for your questions and confessions you can keep sending them honestly this could be a regular segment you can just keep sending us shit and chances are we probably left a few out there but we'll get to it
Starting point is 01:44:42 and before we go we absolutely need to plug a show um next friday friday the 14th yeah friday june 14th friday june 14th at best friend bar in lexington starts at 9 9 p.m ten dollar cover we're gonna be there opening for a street fight radio we're gonna quit planning shit without me i I'm just really going to lose it. You're an Oklahoma motherfucker. No, that's what I'm saying. Y'all never fucking consult me on dates. When we planned this, you said you were going to be in Oklahoma. They asked us to do it.
Starting point is 01:45:13 And they already had the date set. Yeah. And so we're going to do it. It would be a better show if you were there, though. It would be. What's in Oklahoma that you need to be there for? Michelle's sister. Going to visit sister for the first time
Starting point is 01:45:26 Also she works for The like native tribe there And I'm going to spend basically the whole weekend In casinos Well win us some money and bring it back For us I will either bring back money or I will not come home Fair enough
Starting point is 01:45:42 Well then we'll see you at the show And sign up for the patreon and uh have fun ask them where am i at all right we'll see you next week

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