Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 108: Birds All The Way Down (w/ special guest Sam Sacks)

Episode Date: August 1, 2019

Sam Sacks from District Sentinel Radio joins us on this dispatch from the road, wherein we discuss a compelling new theory of everything that involves Fabio, Bernie Sanders, and birds. You can donate to support the miners here: https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/79d3da4c086bc1598eb1f50b70f98bba9acabcd3?hash=340f6b1f35483f3a493882f9640809ce Come see us on tour: https://www.streetfightradio.com/street-fight-radio-x-district-sentinel-x-trillbilly-workers-party/ And of course, support our Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Like all activist causes, the more activists that take action, the more action you get. Isn't that how betting works? No. I don't think so. You're going to have to explain it a little further. Keep going, pal. You know, the higher the stakes are, the more people that take part, the higher the stakes are. True.

You know? That's how gambling works in my head. Anyways. This is one of those blankets you can wrap, like, slut on. Yeah. Yeah. We're recording in Wine Mom back bedroom. Yeah.

Someone has passed out after too many xanaxes and there's a wild decor reads everything happens for a raceling we are we are recording in the fern room though which i think you respect this is i do i do i do i do respect the fern room. As an appreciator of all things green. Yeah. Verdant. Yeah. Just outside, there's a flamingo-themed room. Yeah. Yeah. We're familiar with that.

I've spent half of this tour already proclaiming to everybody my deep appreciation for the fauna. Tree boy. And flora. Tree boy. The flora of the South. Flora boy. Flora boyuna. Tree boy. Tree boy. The flora of the South. Flora boy. Flora boy.

Flora boy. Florida boy. I don't know what I am. Florida boys. For the boys. For the boys. For the boys. Keep talking real quick, Sam.

Say something. All right. We're good. That's all you needed to say thank you today we're joined by none other than mr sam sacks from the dc sentinel how are you sam doing well doing well good to be on the road with you guys yeah this is road podcasting never quite done anything like it i gotta admit like that just throwing abundantly clear never done anything like it fucking i'm like dershowitz over here just fumbling fumbling everything so we've decided so far on our tour we've come to a few um realizations about the current state of reality that's right um the first is that um

the only thing that would make sense at this point is if dershowitz went full bud dwyer and held a press conference and just topped himself if in front of in love for saying that like i i feel like dershowitz is not the type of guy that would do that honestly dershowitz is the type of guy that is going to tweet through it until the very end which is a form of bud dwyer yeah yeah it's yeah it's figuratively bud dwyering himself in front of everybody in front of millions on social media this time it's a great update right except he doesn't actually blow his head off but right if bud dwyer had been around in front of everybody, in front of millions on social media this time. It's a great update. Right, right. Except he doesn't actually blow his head off.

Right. If Bud Dwyer had been around when Twitter was around, it's safe to say he probably would have tweeted through it as well. Poor guy. The guy just needed a Twitter fan. Yeah, he needed a handle. He needed the website. We all need a handle.

At Bud Conference 24. No, I don't know what's going on. I mean, this is an older article he wrote. Yeah. Right around the time that he was probably engaged in these sort of activities. Yes. On the Epstein plane. That's right.

And private islands. on the Epstein plane. That's right. And private islands. But why he would take to then defending it today now that this is all in the news again and the spotlight is on him again instead of just logging off. It's a curious choice.

Yeah, a curious choice. I think my man knows about statute of limitations and he knows about the law. And so I think what he was doing was it was a long game on his part he was like i'm gonna i'm just gonna float it out there and maybe the overton window will shift by 2019 think about the confidence he must have in himself though that he alan dershowitz i mean he did get oj off did. He did. And who's the guy that killed his wife in the early 80s? Oh, Roman Polanski.

A lot of people who killed their wives, Dershowitz has got off. Oh, Roman Polanski's wife was murdered by the Manson family. Not exactly an ally, Alan Dershowitz here. He thinks that through writing an op-ed or now tweeting he's going to be able to get the age of consent lowered right which will then ultimately exonerate himself and all of his friends right right right that's that's that's the law you really think he cares probably nothing about the public shame just that like what he does was within the bounds of the law we are now in adversarial territory and he needs to prevail through logic and argumentative uh sound reasoning right that's alan dershowitz will be spared jail all right well those epstein guys must have been

like they must have slept soundly like ohershowitz is on the case. Don't worry about it. He got O.J. off for fuck's sake. Klaus von Bulow, that's who I was thinking of. Ever heard of him? Who's that? He was like a millionaire in the early 80s who murdered his wife. Yeah, he probably did it. He got Mike Tyson off also.

Dershowitz did. But Mike Tyson went to jail. Didn't get him that off I guess he didn't go to jail for as long as he should have That's probably That's Dershowitz's thing He's like an appeal lawyer He's like real big in appellate court Who were like the heavy hitters of that circuit

Like Mark Garagos was Did he die? F. Lee Bailey Yeah Obviously Johnny Cochran's dad right right yeah well this must have been the thing dershowitz must have thought he could single-handedly shift the overton window on the age of consent i don't think it's gonna happen i could see alan dershowitz not facing any punishment along with everybody else involved in this thing because we

are living in a failed state but i don't think he's gonna succeed in his logic game that he's playing well i told y'all what he did and what he did was 20 years ago when he wrote that op-ed he woke up this morning he woke up that morning he was like god damn i abused a child last night here's what'll do. I'll just throw this out here. We'll enter this into the discourse. We'll let it marinate for about 19 or so years. And when my ship comes in, then the Overton window will have shifted, like you said.

Yeah, yeah. And we're good. We're Gucci. Back then, those guys were like, Dersh is on the case. Don't worry about it. By the time this all comes around... We'll all be thinking completely different

about this topic in 19 years. It's all good. The entire society will. Look at the French. about it by the time this all comes around yeah we'll all be thinking completely different about this topic in 19 years it's all good the entire society look at the french you know yeah we didn't we had we had a we had a friend that argued in earnest for that we did she's like in france it's like the age of consent is 14 that's what she'll be here and we're like is that irony is that yeah dirsh is not doing irony and there are like plenty of sick fucks who are going to defend this thing and run with it be like you know i think dirsh has a point there are people who are probably just discovering this article now yeah and are taking to twitter being like read this check this out Check this out. Check this out. He'll have a day in the libertarian scene for sure. Damn.

Wow. Well, he's definitely had one for the ages. He's definitely had one for the ages. You cannot film in here, Nick Hayes. It is antithetical to the whole point of podcasting. You cannot film podcasts. It's sacred. Nick Hayes means TV.

Nick Hayes means TV. Nick Hayes means TV. Oh Hayes means TV. Nick Hayes means TV. Oh, but you can bring me coffee. Nice. Thank you for the coffee. Sam Knight, District Sentinel, the coffee boy for the Trillbillies. That's right.

Did you want a coffee? There's just only one of us who wants a coffee. We're going to pass around a coffee, I guess. It's for Nick. That's Nick's coffee. It's not Nick's coffee. We got an extra coffee. That's right. It turns out I could have gone by myself to pass around a coffee, I guess. It's for Nick. That's Nick's coffee. It's not Nick's coffee. We got an extra coffee. That's right.

Turns out I could have gone by myself to bring back the coffee. Yeah. Well, thanks for that, Sam. No problem. No problem. We appreciate it. Good time. Well, so what's going on?

Just hanging in the Wine Mom house here in Raleigh, North Carolina. North Carolina. I'm over here trying to gin up donations for the miners that are hosting a cornhole tournament on the train tracks in Harlan County. So tell us a little bit about that, Tom. What's the status on that? I want to be as transparent as I can be about this. I know there's a lot of questions about my character out there in the community,

and maybe rightfully so in some ways. But I assure you that a hundred percent of these donations are going to go to the right families the tricky part is though is figuring out because there's just no infrastructure for this stuff down here you never never let a famed hustler like tom sexton run your activist cause everybody gets to that donation page and they say hmm we're gonna check that cornhole equipment in a few weeks i'm gonna sit on this for a minute damn but anyway seriously we are people find out about that what's that where can people find out about this? Oh, go to Twitter.com.

I'll get you a link right now. It's not Twitter.net? It's not one of those? No. We'll put it in the show. We can put it in the show description. Yeah, we'll put it in the show description. That's better than having you have to rewind this and say. Well, give us a rundown, though, on what's going on.

Well, I think it's like most things in eastern Kentucky. I don't think there's some great coordinated plan. I think there's a bunch of guys sitting around thinking, Hey, Brian Quimby. Hi, guys. Hey, Brian Quimby. I want to take a nap. This is Kim.

Did you want to nap in here? Yeah, do you want to nap while we're podcasting? I want to nap in the bed that I have. It's not very comfortable. Have a good podcast, everybody. Thanks. We'll see you in a little bit. We'll join you here in a minute.

Never know who's going to pop in here. That's right. That's life on the road. This is going to be a new one of those podcasts that put people to sleep. We're just going to talk to Brian as he falls asleep. And hopefully the rest of the listeners fall asleep, too. Go to sleep. Support the minors.

The minors are playing cornhole. So yeah, the minors are playing cornhole. I think it's one of those things where you got a bunch of guys sitting around commiserating about how fucked up it is that Jeff Hoops is building a $20 million Rome-themed resort in Milton, West Virginia. Not the Bahamas. I think I just got two things mixed up. West Virginia. Not the Bahamas. I think I just got two things mixed up. Chris Klein died in the Bahamas, in case you missed that memo.

Right, right, right. But Jeff Hoops is still alive. Jeff Hoops is still alive. Any helicopter trips planned? Yeah. If any of our Bahamian friends are listening and have any surface-to-air capabilities. This is what I've been wondering about helicopters. Like, if you were to shoot a helicopter down, how would they ever prove who is the person who shot it down?

You know what I mean? What kind of, like, forensics? I'm sure that exists. I don't know, but I feel like the NTSB can determine if a missile hit a helicopter. Now, I guess determining where that missile came from, that might be tougher. It could be anybody. You might just need hope for eyewitnesses that saw a... Imagine seeing that shit just hanging out in the Bahamas on a beach.

I walk up out of the ocean with a rocket launcher on my shoulder. In the shape of a trident. Doing this old fish man thing yeah that would be hard to prove unless somebody saw it yeah i don't know or you were part of the muja hadin yeah the brave muja hadin fighters that's right yeah so anyway we got got coal miners hanging out on train tracks in Harlan County. They're probably sitting around, you know, commiserating about getting fucked out of their jobs, getting fucked in the courts, because what a lot of people don't know is that so two weeks ago, Black Jewel, Black Hawk, Revelation Mining,

who are the three big coal companies that were betting big on coal's resurgence buying up all these properties that all these bigger companies had passed on um all declared bankruptcy no surprise there and um so what they were doing and it's interesting because i was talking to my brother-in-law who used to work at revelation about this and he said man there was no hr department like you know you who used to work at Revelation about this, and he said, man, there was no HR department. Like, you know, you used to drive to your office, pick up your check, take it to the bank or deposit or whatever. Now, he was like, you had some dude drive out on a strip job on a truck and pay us out in cash and then give us, like, a little printed-out check stub

to where, like, the deductions were? Yeah. Well, as it turns out out no surprise here for an operation that sends a guy to pay their workers out in cash the deductions weren't really getting going to the places they needed to go to and so these guys got bench warrants out on them for alimony child support all this shit they can't draw unemployment benefits because they were never actually laid off these mines just shuttered they showed up for work and there was no work to do and there was like you know locks on the doors and everything right and so um there's one gas station in harlan county i think tanya was actually talking about this two weeks ago but if you missed it that

cashed 90 000 worth of checks and all those the bank sent all those back on them so now they're just out fucking 90k these cash checks it's just like it's just these assholes like jeff hoops who's you know just i think it's hilarious he's building a rome themed resort in west virginia like a 20 million who's gonna go to that like the other coal barons it's like greenbrier in western it's like it's only like the pga tournament comes once a year and then it's the rest of the, it's like Jim Justice and these rich assholes. Right. I feel like the people would just go to Rome or something. Yeah. Instead of the Rome replicate in West Virginia.

In West Virginia, built by coal money. You'd be surprised. The rich, they do... They're into Rome. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But they can do whatever they want. You can build a replica of Rome,

hire Dershowitz and Epstein to, you know, get children in there, and... I'm not sure where I'm going with this. Jeff's gonna roll all this dirt. We gotta get to it. So anyways, though, these guys haven't collected a paycheck in a while um so yeah i don't know like this is why we need on the ground reporting

because we're speculating from our average tower here in chapel hill north carolina that's right well i mean we don't need to know much more than to know that the boss here is probably fucked yeah fucked up dude and uh the workers should be supported. That's right. Absolutely. That's a good point. Well, and so what they've done is they've shut down a real... They've done a classic protest tactic,

which is shut down an avenue of commerce, you know, or... Classic direct action. As Tom says, it's a classic case. Coming through with the DA. Which is what it takes sometimes. That's right. The capitalists tend not to like this course of action. They don't like it very much at all.

They've occupied a railroad. Well, let me tell you this, though. And this is, you know, you know how the companies are getting woke now? Apparently Coca-Cola stopped by and gave them like a bunch of like Cokes. Well, let me tell you this, though. And this is, you know, you know how the companies are getting woke now? Mm-hmm. Apparently Coca-Cola stopped by and gave them, like, a bunch of, like, Cokes. Really? Yeah. God damn.

Which is interesting. They're beating us at our own game. Dude, that's how woke they've become? Yeah. Holy shit. Like, they saw Kendall Jenner doing that Pepsi commercial where she's like, you know. The revolution starts here yeah and they're and they're like we'll see you then we're going to a minor strike motherfucker

top that shit coca-cola is organizing coal miners for unions that is interesting i i mean to to the extent that it's like good faith effort to support workers, which I doubt, but there's usually such discipline among the chamber. They're usually on the level about that. Yeah, right. About not doing stuff like that that would threaten capital. Is coke scabbing? It's the opposite of scabbing.

Fascinating. Well, so they shut down the railroad to stop a coal train from leaving. Is it Revelation and Black Jewel Coal that is? Yeah, Jeff Hoops is the CEO of both of them. Okay. So how have they been getting the coal out? Is it just coal that still hasn't been shipped out from when the mines were active a few weeks ago? I guess so.

Either that or they're just not even connected it's just a demonstration because i mean csx gotta take all that out of there anyway that makes sense so it's just like if we're not you know mining coal you're not running it that's actually a really great disruption tactic um well they've done the ultimate which is set up a cornhole tournament on the train tracks. Yeah, they got brackets and stuff. Yeah. They should start taking like, you know how like people do graduation photos on railroads, train tracks? They should start taking those.

I'm the guy in a group who's always like, all right, we got to do this right. If we're going to compete, we got to set up the brackets. We got to draw numbers out of a hat and set up the first round competitions. I just hope that there's someone there like that who's taking charge. A sanctioning body. Yeah.

Not the person who's involved in like dealing with like the actual labor dispute. It's someone else who's been designated as the ringmaster of ceremonies at the cornhole tournament right i got a little exclusive for you boys what's that you know who it is i have it on good authority that mikey pack and i don't think he's organizing it but i was talking to my sister a little bit ago she was talking about my brother i was like we're setting up this fundraiser do you know anybody that you know that's raising money that we could kind of funnel these funds to or whatever?

And she's like, well, I think Mikey Peck's working on that. And da-da-da-da-da. She said, he's the one that's over there with the cornhole tournament right now. She said, he's the best around. It's the Michael Jordan of cornhole. Well, let that be a lesson. Sometimes organizing anything is just as simple

as organizing a cornhole tournament. Absolutely. That's all it takes. There's no great secret. That's right. One simple trick to disrupt your workplace. CEOs hate it. CEOs hate it.

It's cornhole. Also, erase belly fat with bananas and avocado. That's right. So, anyways, that's what's going on back home i i have intense fomo about it not being able to yeah we turn our head for two seconds and it's right there in your backyard literally it always happens that way though like the west virginia teacher shit same thing yeah yeah why what were we doing this well i mean it's like we just couldn't get up we couldn't really up we couldn't really get there for it so we had to send emily in right right i remember one of the last times

we went on tour the sentinel went on tour uh we were gone for a week didn't do any shows except a live show in pittsburgh and uh one in columbus and that entire week was the anthony scaramucci saga where he was hired went through all that stuff and then was fired before we came back from vacation we just missed the entire episode which ultimately is completely meaningless like a fart in the trump administration here but there's the mooch man it would have been some good content for a week yeah well that's i. That's probably the maddening thing about being in D.C. The news cycle just moves so goddamn quick. We'll get good mileage out of anything that happens down there. Not much happens.

You almost got to stay away from the stuff that's happening because everybody's covering that stuff. The mooch was everywhere. Wall-to-wall coverage. How does it feel to be out of D.C.?c you feel like you can breathe a breath of fresh air feels nice yeah uh i mean i'm a southern boy out of the swamp i'm from florida originally which i guess is florida the south yeah we'll call it parts of florida the south you're part of florida i'm from central florida which i'd say is the south yeah um so i yeah i like to get down here a couple times a year

and i haven't been down here this year yet so yeah well we're going i'm not like you you know you're the one who's geeking out on the on the highways looking at the trees i'm the opposite when i get out and see the mountains and see out the west and the desert and stuff yeah yesterday on the drive down here i was telling telling the Sams about where I live. And I was like, man, I just love the trees. I love the bugs. I love the animals. It's like, if you look out,

just look outside the van. There's like a thousand different species of trees out there right now. Tulip poplars, seabream papil. Yeah, I'm sorry. They were looking at me like, who the fuck is this guy? No, it's good. I used to know my trees so much better.

We both did during the bat years. I felt like. That's right. I couldn't tell you shit about anything green. You know. That's not true, Tom. The South has the good fast food. Yeah.

Like Bojangles. Right. Although Bojangles is a little disappointing so uh we saw a man almost die last night bojangles yeah and bojangles i walked right into it hoping i would get shot i genuinely wanted to get taken down in a just a you know gunfire collateral damage in a dispute yeah hell of a place collateral damage i wanted to be an innocent bystander who got shot and hope maybe even murdered think of the publicity it would do for this tour well yeah if you were shot not murdered well well yeah well murdered maybe for the rest of us but we want you to we want you to enjoy the fruits of your injuries as well

of your assault as well we don't want you mortally the fruits of your injuries as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of your assault as well. We don't want you mortally wounded. Perhaps just, you know, a couple of debilitating wounds. I mean, if we're going to raise money off of what happened to you, we want you to be able to enjoy it as well. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Wow, we've got Nick Hayes back in the studio.

Nick Hayes. Nick Hayes TV, everybody. Nick Hayes means TV. The quality of this podcast declines every time you walk in the room. And every time you leave, it gets better. When you put a camera in somebody's face, I don't know. It just does something. I have a great step up to it.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. I'm just resisting it. Carry on, Nick. Do your job. We'll do ours, I guess. So, anyways. Our job is... Well, we guess. So, anyways. Our job is...

Is? Well, we're doing these live shows. Yeah. About to do Chapel Hill tonight. About to do Chapel Hill this evening. By the time you hear this, we'll probably have already done Chapel Hill. But... Might be in Jacksonville.

But you Jacksonville listeners, which all six of you, come out there August 1st. Yeah. Well, actually, this will be air. I think this will come out either the day of that or afterwards. I can't remember. Well, if it comes out the day of, and I know the Street Fight listeners like to tell us, hey, bring drugs, bring weed or whatever. Bring Crystal Burgers.

I will smash three sam's good as drugs good as cash crystal burgers yeah that's right the high lasts the high lasts about as long as like some uh salvia for a bit you know you get that like 10 minutes while you're doing it just like oh my god i've never felt better uh but the hangover is way worse. Oh, God. I think salvia is single-handedly responsible for frying my synapses. Yeah, no. Salvia is the weirdest drug I've ever taken in my life. Yeah.

By a mile. Yeah. I've never done it. Yeah. But Tom had some harrowing tales of salvia. Yeah. Did you get real bad on salvia, Tom? No, I think I was addicted to salvia.

Real life, I was addicted to salvia. Tom was addicted to salvia addicted there are dozens of us i actually told this last time i told the salvia story was when we were recording yeah so i can't i can't recycle that one i was like i think we've had this conversation before. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's see. It's disorienting to be out of your podcasting element, isn't it? It is. It is.

I mean, especially trying to do it on the fly when, you know, we're insulated. Right. From what's going on in the world, really. Yeah. I mean, like, the thing about, you know, traveling is that I haven't really caught up with the news. Honestly, the only news I've been keeping up with is the Dersh news. But that's because

it's so fulfilling. Like, he's such a piece of shit. It's, it's very, I don't know, it's kind of like, are we actually going to see

Dersh get held to account? No. Probably not, no. No, but we will see him embarrass himself. On TV. I think that's No, but we will see him embarrass himself. On TV. I think that's probably

the most we can hope for at this point. I think that's already in the works. Yeah. What's funny is how he's changed his tune over the past couple of weeks.

Like, at first he was like, there's these affidavits that say that my accuser lied and da-da-da-da-da-da. It's like he was trying to do the lawyer thing where he was using the channels and everything to prove his innocence.

And now he's just like, well, if that doesn't work, I can just go with the old, well, is it really that bad? Right, right. It's the classic shifting of the Overton. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right. It's the classic shifting of the Overton.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's just... Are you guys excited about... Have you been to Florida? The two of you? No, I haven't. My dad's a Floridian. Oh, is he?

Yeah. We're part. Miami. Miami. Oh, yeah. You were talking about Miami. I forgot. I've only been in the Panhandle briefly.

It's just that foot what is going on out there oh brett from street fight radio is working out in the next room brett pain doing pilates in the next room sounds like someone's like has some action on a game and they're losing on like ridiculous plays out there like fuck god i love betting horses for i mean for a lot of reasons but one of my favorite things is when you're sitting there simulcast just an inconsequential race and you'll have some old codger that has a hat on says uh like santa anita derby 1993 get up there six you son of a bitch i was at a i spent an inordinate amount of time at off-track betting parlors just playing like the uh 2 11 p.m race on a wednesday afternoon horses i don't even know where the fuck they're at

carriage races and shit like that that's the hardcore stuff when you're doing the carriage races when you're betting on the carriage horses let me tell you yeah if you ever find yourself betting a carriage race sick hill so explain for the uninitiated is it an actual carriage like um like they it's like ben hurr yeah it looks like ben hurr yeah they race that shit little five foot four ten dudes like riding carriages and yeah wow it's like how how NASCAR has the funny car races. And they have the pickup truck races and shit. Yeah, they got the horse racing with the chariots. It's funny.

It's like there's some traditions that just haven't died since the very beginning of time. The dawn of time. Chariot races. Democracy. Just a couple of pillars, child pedophilia covered up by the top elites. Been going on for thousands.

Yeah. Just, you know, those classic traditions we all know and love. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, is that like a hotter form

of racing than just on horseback? That's what the degenerates dare degenerates day why because you got to find that action you got to find the action it's all about finding the action you gotta find the action it's about getting the damn you got the best of it i was betting i was trying to find some action last week the saw some tennis that was being played out of like fuck i think it was in i think it was in like new haven or something like that there's some the hardcore atp yeah tournament and uh i was just looking at odds and i've never seen this player alexander bublek he's like a kazakh tennis player

bublek yeah bublek yeah i looked at some of his past and he had a bunch of aces and some previous yeah oh b-u-b-l-i-k um he's 22 ranked like 80 or something in the world so i was like i'm gonna put some action on this guy play some tennis it was the weirdest tennis match i've ever seen in my life he did four underhanded quick serves to catch his opponent you never see people are doing that a lot it's nick the nick curios effect yeah i guess yeah he started he's got he's brought it back people do i mean i assume people used to do this back in the day a lot in tennis when it was just uh it's poor it's considered poor form but it's legal he didn't give a fuck this guy didn't give a fuck he did he did like four of those he could not hit a regular shot though he could not get just like there was never a rally of more than three or four shots it was either he's going to get you with the quick, with the big heavy serve ace,

he's going to get you with the quick serve when you're not paying attention, or he's going to have an unforced error. Yeah. And he ends up winning in three sets, and I hit that one, but... So you had action on it. I had action on it. Well, batting tennis, let me tell you, batting tennis is a dicey proposition because it's very rigged.

Like, have you heard about Nikolai Devidenko and the Russian mob? I think tennis is a dicey proposition because it's very rigged. You're right. Oh, yeah. Have you heard about Nikolai Davidenko and the Russian mob? No. I mean, I remember the tennis fixing scandal from a few years ago. Was that involving him? Yeah, Nikolai Davidenko was like number five or six in the world, one of the best players in the world,

always in the thick of grand slams and stuff. Yeah. He plays a – it wasn't even like a master series tournament it was like a like a like atp 1000 level which is kind of like just like you know these guys will go down there and play like guys like ranked in the 80s and shit just to get a quick payday because they can qualify for the higher rank guys he goes and he plays duty selah who was an israeli player who was like ranked like 120 something in the world and all this huge influx of money comes in on Sayla from the Russian Federation, okay?

Nikolai Davidenko beats him in the first set 6-2. The next set he's up 4-0 and withdraws with a blister on his foot. I wonder how much money came in on him after the 6-2 during the live. Yes. And so the Russian mob just during the live fest. Yes. God damn. And so the Russian mob just made a man out of this. And like Davy Danko kind of got disgraced. Like I don't think it was ever like proven that he was like in league with them.

That's called action. That's the action. We call that action. The Russian Federation had some action. There's a couple things like that. If you're ever back in carriage races, there's like always like, because carriage races tend to happen at like courses that are like in kind of you know disparate places they're not like you know it's not like yeah kentucky derby shit or anything like that which you know some people call louisville disparate but so there's always like just one rock star of like these little bullshit courses and if you ever see thomas j

clifton riding at penn national they give him a lot of races like even if he's losing like a lot of jockeys will just stiff it because he's like you know he's a showman he goes over there and like you know throws flowers to the crowd and shit like that yeah early fires used to be like that for i think he's pretty well retired but early fires was just like a legendary jockey and like if he would just like you know one of those guys that like when he needed a

paycheck he would go like riding a race and he'd go take them out and then you know they'd make it to where he'd win or finishing the money so like if you

just saw early fires out of nowhere you knew to play him in the exotics why we should do that throw roses into the crown after we perform. That's the hallmark

of a good entertainer. They should throw roses on us. You're right. Just get him cut the fuck up. Just bloody. Roses and bread. He has fucking hard loves. All right.

Action. Let's see. I want to know. Look look there's a few things i want to know this i wanted to explore this a little bit today the hot the the okay i'll just say this the terence ray conspiracy theory of the day is that fabio let's talk about what we really came here to talk about yeah this you finally have gotten to the topic you had uh sold me on to come on your show we've been dwelling on you dragged me through these fluff stories like miners striking on railroad tracks and shit but 8 a.m i will say over here just so disc and just like so uncontained. Just waiting to get to this.

Come on, come on, come on. Come on my podcast and talk about Fabio. So in 19, what year was that? This is 20th. We just had, we're a few months away from the 20th anniversary. We're a few months away. All right. Where's the article you had last night?

Do you remember what you pulled it up on? I just typed fabio blood face no i didn't know it was a goose until after i had after you searched fabio blood into this yeah just do i because i really wanted to just find the picture right right right um which is which is horrific i mean it's a horrific photo not so much fabio which yeah he's got blood all over his face but like the women behind fabio that are splattered with blood as well and the woman next to him has this like demented smile on her face it really did look like a stool from midsummer well here's the thing here's my thing about this fabio thing yeah there's two there's two ways to approach that the first is that it actually happened that it was one of those weird cosmological events like fabio the most famous supermodel at the time like the hindenburg or like the randy johnson fastball killing the bird. Exactly. Got on a roller coaster. It happens. We've seen this happen before.

We've seen it happen before. The God sacrificed a bird every now and then to a famous person. Right. So the story behind this is that, wasn't it the grand opening of this roller coaster? Yes. This was the unveiling of this roller coaster. Fabio was the first personiling of this roller coaster fabio was the first person to ride this roller coaster so we're not talking about a really i mean this is at bush gardens which i guess is a top

tier amusement park but still their best get that they can get to ride be the inaugural rider on this roller coaster is Fabio. And this is not prime Fabio. Prime Fabio was probably 10 years before this. He's on the... Fabio has now become a joke at this point. I can't believe it's not butter Fabio. Right. The roller coaster of his life, he is on the descent.

Yes, he is on the butter, the margarine commercials. And it's reflected in his face from the steel so so bush gardens had invited the press right camera cameraman everyone was assembled reporters right to watch fabio and they had set up a group of women dressed like athenian goddesses to accompany fabio on this maiden voyage. Blonde hair, blue eyes. On the roller coaster. Just the vision of, you know,

just sort of like Western Aryan supremacy. Just the spectacle of it all. Before it's even left the station. Just think of the spectacle of Fabio striding to his car flanked by these athenian goddesses to ride this bush gardens roller coaster and it's an inaugural which was called what what was the name of the coaster um let's see it was i don't know it just says a bush do you did you see it last night yeah all i can find oh can find it right here. Oh, it's called the Apollo's Chariot. Yeah, Apollo's Chariot.

Big chariot-themed episode here. Yeah, it happened on March 30th, 1999, which is one day before April Fool's Day, which is an interesting little tidbit. Yeah. Busch Gardens was introducing its new roller coaster, Apollo's Chariot. But so here's the thing. Here's the thing.

There's two interpretations of this event. The first is, like I said, like we were saying, it's Randy Johnson hitting the bird with a baseball. It is one of those mathematically impossible things that happens. A goose The roller coaster is

in a downward trajectory going 70 miles an hour. A goose is nesting nearby. Right. Flies into its path. The goose hits the front of the car, of the roller coaster car. Right. Ricochets, apparently killing it instantly.

Right, right. apparently killing it instantly. Right, right. Ricochet snapping its neck, ricochets off, then hits Fabio square in the face, lacerating his nose and... Discharging blood. Yeah, yeah.

Pouring blood all over the place. All over the passengers behind him. As this goose carcass is just tumbling past. And then immediately the roller coaster returns to the station two minutes later with blood everywhere. Blood all over the passengers, all over Fabio. So what is your theory? Yeah, that's the official story. What is your theory?

That's the official story. My theory is that Fabio staged it as a PR stunt because his career was on the decline. Yeah. And you'll do just about anything to get your name back out in the news. So I propose we reconstruct it. It should be reconstructed like CSI style. We need to determine where on the roller coaster he hit it hit him um we need to track down the other people on that roller coaster with yeah i agree and god we need to know who made

first contact about being the inaugural rider was it fabio who pitched himself exactly or did the roller coaster did bush gardens reach out to Fabio? Exactly. That's important. Hopefully we're inspiring young journalists around the country to get on this Fabio beat. But it is so memorable. Like it did inject Fabio back into pop culture. To this day, everybody remembers the bloodied Fabio. Probably more so than they remember Fabio on the cover of thousands of romantic novels. That's right. My mom loved them Harlequin romance novels

with Fabio on the cover. Oh, yeah. I grace the cover of thousands of romantic novels, but then I get hit in the face by one dead goose and I remember that for the rest of my life. I think that it says, honestly, I think it says a lot about violence in our society in general it does that still image of fabio with blood on his face and there's blood all over the

people behind him just that image that says a lot about you know the militarism in our society i've got a i've got a little theory of my own. I like to float. That's your idea. I think to keep the planets in alignment and the Earth rotating on its axis and all this kind of stuff, to keep the order of things, I think that God has to send his finest specimens to sacrifice a bird every, like, 16 years. So Randy Johnson was in that with the fastball yeah right fabio now we need to go and find who what other famous person has killed a bird they use that famous person's skills to kill the bird right the randy johnson fastball the face his beautiful face yeah it's that's that's that's weird guys that's my turtles all the way down like it takes a bird sacrifice every so often to keep my takeaway from this and i honestly i get

this kind of shiver down my spine thinking about this we were so close to this going horribly where Fabio died. Right. If this goose does not hit the front of the car, if they're just fractions of a foot off, the goose probably breaks Fabio's neck. Right. And the roller coaster returns with everybody covered in blood and Fabio dead. Dead. His head is dead. with everybody covered in blood and fabio dead his head and the impact that that would have had on our collective on our culture as a nation i don't think we've ever would have ever recovered

from that right it's bad to die in a stupid way totally i thought about this as i breathed in a skittle on our way to down and like i finally like coughed it up and i was like if i would have died in this bus of podcasters i would have aspirating on a skittle i'm trying to give you the heimlich and i can't even get it out imagine how bad i would feel like you're just you're just immortalized as a buffoon in that point you know what i mean yeah yeah protect your neck from from the goose people you want to die dial some dignity. Yeah, yeah. Well...

Maybe killing a coal baron or something. Right, right. Well, the next... Let's see. So the next bird to be taken out... Let's say...

Do you think Bernie Sanders was supposed to kill the bird that landed on his podium? Was he supposed to kill that bird? I think so. landed that's on his podium was he supposed to kill that bird i think i think so and that's where the timeline deviated that's why he lost that's why we got

trump that's why we got trump i've been looking at that wrong my whole the whole time i've thought of this as like this beautiful moment in which this bird recognized something in this human like recognized this warmth about bernie sanders and landed on the podium and there was this connection there but that wasn't the way it was supposed to happen bernie was supposed to smash that bird in front of everybody and they probably like trump voters would have gone nuts for that like the people who went for ended up up... He just pulls out a... They were like, oh, my God. A rifle and...

F-plus rating by the NRA all the way up to A-plus now. Yeah, because he has to do it with his skill, remember? So what would Bernie's skill be? He'd take a basketball and he'd dunk the bird with the basketball. Or he would go find some affordable drugs from Canada and not give it too much insulin or something. Maybe we can write it. Maybe the

Dersh can write where the... He can use his prosecutorial skills or his appellate skills to kill the next bird. I don't know. It's the only thing that can save him at this point. It's the only thing that can save him at this point. And all of us for that, man.

God damn. We have to write the universe down. Yeah, I mean, when was the Randy Johnson? I was thinking it was in the 90s. It was around the same time as the Fabio thing. All right. I mean, it's been 20 years since Fabio. I think we're probably nearing another bird sacrifice, especially, I mean, Bernie was, I guess, 15 years after, 16 years after.

Right, right. I think the Randy Johnson thing was actually in the mid-2000s. He was pitching well. That was later. That was after Fabio. Yeah, so i think it happens probably every seven years or so yeah we're due because of bernie bernie didn't do it so it's overdue we missed it goddamn if joe biden kills the burn this is this is like the premise

did you ever see that was the cabin in the woods you ever see yeah like we have to someone's got to kill a bird or else hell opens up. Yeah. It's already started. It's like the movie The Adjustment Bureau. Yeah. I never saw it. With Matt Damon?

Yeah. Like, every, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. I never saw it. People have been chastising me for giving away movies. Tom, we have taken the most heat lately for a random take. Tom said that Bringing Out the Dead Martin Scorsese's film

was bad. Worst movie ever. Tom said it was the worst movie you ever saw. Is that Nick Cage? Yeah. John Goodman. I did not see it

but I remember the poster. It's a dud. It's a dud. It's a dud. I think I confuse that movie sometimes with that other one. Was it Flatliners

where they yeah where they kill people and bring them back to life yeah that was the last movie I watched at the

drive-in movie theater wow I don't know but this fellas this is pretty creepy I mean really though it really is an Ari Aster film

just the look at the photo of all the people on that roller coaster. Oh, man. I didn't realize there were that many people. Holy. Because I've only the photos. You only see the first two rows, but there are literally like seven rows of people of

Athenian goddesses. Yeah. Like if his head would have been taken off, Sam, everybody around him would have been covered with brains. Also, the crazy thing about that... The crazy shit about that... Just his head. Head and hair.

Never. We would have never recovered. We would have never recovered. The human race would have never recovered from that. It had to... Here's why my theory holds water, okay? Look how many fucking people know that goose could have flown in front of but it chose the fabio the vessel the chosen that's that's what i'm saying

yeah looking at the thing it's like a where's waldo photo and it's like where's where's fabio and that's where the bird went right there right there's a blood classic blood sacrifice right you know that's the there are know, there's sacred geometry in the world. It would be great if Fabio was aware of this. Like if Fabio... Willingly. Yeah. We're going to just go with Tom's theory is true.

This wasn't promotional. This wasn't a freak thing, which is my theory. This is Tom's theory. It's Right. This wasn't promotional. This wasn't a freak thing. Right. Which is my theory. Okay. This is Tom's theory. It's necessary for this to happen to keep balance that one of humankind's greatest specimens must slay a bird using their special power. Fabio knew this and he stoically strides

to the roller coaster takes his seat at the front straps in knowing that his face but the night before he had doubts he went to the garden to weep and he's like father if this

cup could pass from me let it I need to do more butter commercials I'm broke Pardon to weep. Father, if this cup could pass from me, let it. I need to do more butter commercials. I'm broke. Nevertheless, not my will, your will be done. You're called upon, Fabio. You're called upon. You've been called upon. You get sent for it.

You gotta go. Yeah, when it's your time. Well, good on you, Fab you fabio i mean you did your part apparently bernie did not do his but that's a thing that's an interesting thing sam so like in y'all show you know you do it like it conducted like a revolutionary tribunal strike out from the minutes i'm sorry i don't want to give away parts of the live show no that's okay we we uh we we've done it as a segment on the podcast too well it's interesting because you've been doing it the last two shows

people said guilty about bernie didn't they or did some people it's mixed crowd yeah it's a mixed crowd which um maybe they know the birth theory as well i just i just think there's a there's a lot of stalinists in uh dc dsa which is not a bad thing yeah i think if i lived in dc i would and i i mean look even i approach bernie with a sort of skepticism. I recognize that he's better. I recognize he's as good as we're going to get. And I don't even think we're going to get him because he's too good. Right.

Like, I don't think our electoral system can elect Bernie. Right. We're not going to get him because he didn't kill the bird. Yeah. Yeah. He had his chance and he screwed up. But there's still a certain dealing with reality here. And yes, he's not going to bring about a proletariat revolution.

He's not going to line up oil barons against the wall. Right. And he probably will compromise on things like medicare for all if he's elected president i mean his plan does is a transition period um and you could definitely see him working with a republican congress to to settle on something like lowering the medicare age and declaring that a victory i mean i i wouldn't be surprised at something like that but he's still the best we got out there here's and here's we're supporting him over anybody else yeah totally here's my

but if i was in a crowd and uh i might throw guilty out there just to be myself you know yeah i'm not casting a vote here right i'm in a podcast crowd yeah it's like bring, bring me climate Stalin instead. What were you going to say, Tom? I was just going to say my concern is, like, what will the opinion of Bernie be on day one, hypothetically, if he's elected? He's the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, and we're still doing the same shit we're doing now. And, like, it's instant taint. You know what I mean? Yeah.

It's just, like, automatically. Like, he's got to like one of the good thing is that he has improved considerably since 2016 on his foreign policy yeah uh vision um he has worked harder than any other member of congress in trying to end the war in yemen he had a war the first war powers resolution ever passed out of congress of course it was vetoed but just exercising that getting congress to exercise that authority um bernie did that and that is in response to people criticizing him on foreign policy after particularly he's pretty bad in israel yeah yeah and he's gotten better i mean yeah still not great but again you know we are operating within the american someone who's been in congress for so that for decades so he's very much a part of the american electoral system so there are limits here um but i found that his campaign is responsive

to criticism from the left. Yeah. You don't really have that with any other candidate. Yeah, you don't have that with any other candidate. And I think that's also why I think it's okay for people who are farther to the left than Bernie, including myself, and I'm sure you guys too in a lot of ways, that we can support him while also criticizing him including myself and I'm sure you guys too, and in a lot of ways that, uh,

that we can support him while also criticizing him because of how receptive they are to that. That campaign is receptive to that. Um, which, you know, we don't have to be diehard Bernie and always defend him. It's okay to criticize him.

Yeah. Yeah. Except for on Twitter during the hours of two to six. Yeah. Just don't do it on Twitter. Whatever you do, uh, you know, do six yeah just don't do it on twitter whatever you do uh you know do it do it do it on a live podcast show do it when you're talking with your friends right uh whatever you do do not criticize bernie on twitter though no the the only time i think i've

ever flirted with cancellation is when i um made fun of pat the burner i took a lot of heat for that who's that? Who's this? He's just like kind of one of the Burnier bust, like Twitter accounts. Like a Bernie partisan. No, I mean, I've been a diehard Bernie supporter now for like six years since he announced at the end of 2014 that he's fucking running for president.

Yeah. But I still get shit on on Twitter if i'm lodged like a mild criticism of sandra's like oh i think you should probably do this a little differently yeah it's like this is twitter i'm allowed to just like post shit but you have a very new canceled you canceled fast will you will yeah um well um that's a nice little examination of Bernie. Um, it's relevant because the DSA convention is this weekend. And the debate. We're recording, uh, the night of the debate with, uh, Bernie and...

Warren. It's tonight's Warren and Marianne Williamson. Yep. Um, so it is truly debate night. Basically the three horse race for the president. Yeah. No others need to be so lucky. We are recording this.

Then we were talking about this a little bit yesterday. This is bleak. But we are recording this like right after. Was it the Quinnipiac? Remind me again how to say it. Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac. Biden is now at 34 percent plus 12 since a month ago.

So he's only gone up in the polls. Yeah, he lost 12 points after the first debate. In the time in between, he's completely made it up. While doing nothing to rectify his racism. I'm not, like, that is a bit worrying. But the first debate he got hit on for being a racist basically which he has a lot of troubling stances on this issue going back and doesn't seem to really want to apologize for it but it's hard to in a democratic primary with

someone who's barack obama's vice president it's hard to really make that stick that this guy's a racist right so i think that that was a punch that landed initially but eventually like he was able to do damage control like i'm not a racist guys come on right but if he gets hit on his support of credit card companies and bankruptcy bills, which needs to be the next. That's where he needs to get hit on, on these economic issues. It's going to be a lot harder for him to recover from his associations with the banks rather than kind of arguments that he might be a racist. Which, I mean, I think Joe Biden certainly has harbored segregationist ideas. I think Joe Biden certainly has harbored like segregationist ideas.

Right. He probably doesn't anymore because it's just no longer socially acceptable to do that in the Democratic Party, at least. But also I would say like the unrepentant nature of his like, you know, stubborn refusal to just be like, I was wrong on that in the 70s. Yeah. It's like this whole like weird obsession he has with mimicking the like trump tough guy thing yeah yeah i don't think it comes from a racist point as much as it comes from like a prideful standpoint of like i've never been wrong right right so yeah hopefully we'll see him take like another hit somehow and unfortunately he's not on stage with the people who could hit him the

hardest on this issue right i mean kamala harris isn't exactly a reliable figure when it comes to taking on banks or on economic issues and she's proving herself to be uh pretty sketchy with her support for medicare for all so but elizabeth warren is the person who has hit him before and has testified in front of congress debated him on this issue several times and she has yet to be on stage with him in any of these debates which is a bit unfortunate and i i guess they think it's about design or i don't know i mean they claim but it's random but i don't think it is and i didn't do this i didn't watch the cnn draw i didn't see if it was like were they pulling names out of hats or something but this wolf blitzer just put a bunch of balls of the same name in there you know what i mean

it seems like a real easy thing to do is just put the candidates that everybody wants to see on stage together right and then yeah we have a bunch of other ones we'll have them be in the the kids table debate right and as their poll numbers go up they can move up to the grown-ups table debate right and as people in the grown-ups table numbers go down they can move out of the kids it's like a premier league exactly soccer yeah that's that's that is how the republicans did it though in 2016 they had like the the kids debate where they had carly fiorina and lindsey graham and that's rick santorum and other people and i think carly fiorina got promoted during the thing she was at the kids table and then made it to the main stage the funniest thing about it is that

the democrats did that they would just rig it to where bernie was at the kids yeah i'd be like no uh what are you talking about according to this criteria here because you know they keep doing these polls they're like first place joe biden third place kamala harris who the fuck is in second place we uh only polled neighborhoods that have landlines making income over two hundred thousand dollars a year and turns out bernie didn't make the cut to uh get on the debate stage folks america spoke anyways here's john delaney debating uh governor hickenlooper and joe biden right man well i'm surprised by the joe biden stuff i really am because at the very beginning i thought i was one of the people who at the very beginning it's like i i don't think this is gonna go longer than just a month

i thought he'd be out by this point um but i'm a little surprised that he's maintained that sizable lead and but then again like these polls don't really matter and you can find polls that don't show right b Biden with a big lead. In fact, there was a poll, I guess, Emerson or something I saw today that actually had Bernie in the lead by a point or two over Biden. So it's a lot of these. It's all who they're polling. Are they using landlines? Are they using cell phones?

And I don't think I think Biden is going to be in the race for a bit. But I see him more as he'll be in there until at least the contest start. Right. I don't see him dropping out before that. Right. I think he is a paper tiger. I don't think he's going to be the nominee. I don't think anybody's going to get the delegates needed heading into the

convention with the way the contests are proportional represent, the delegates are awarded on a proportional basis on how people do it's not winner take all delegates so how would that work would there um if that was the case like who would then be able to be john delaney it's whoever it's whoever spent it would be a brokered convention. So it would go to the convention and Delaney's the favorite there in that situation. He's a charismatic guy. I mean, they gave it to Harry Truman

back in the vice presidency they gave to Harry Truman in 1944 and he wasn't a guy who was anywhere thought of, but they're like, oh, he seemed to be the least harmless guy here. And wasn't it also like the 19, was it 1922? There was a contested convention

or whatever it was between Al Smith and, fuck, I don't even know. But anyways, it was the exact same situation. Yeah. Where they basically just gave it to somebody

that hadn't been running. Yeah. Yeah, that's a better example. I guess the 1944 was just, that was FDR, the nominee. They were just trying to figure out who his vice president was going to be. They did not want Henry Wallace to be his vice president. Right, right.

So they... Of course, if he would have been, then he would have been president, and the world would have been completely different. It would have been completely different. He would have had an actual communist as president in 1945. I think they gave him an ambassadorial post. I can't remember. They like did something really shady

to Henry Wallace. I know FDR sent him around the world to gin up allies for the war after that for a while. When Truman came in, they gave him some kind of cabinet post, but Wallace talked shit about Truman and criticized Truman's policy toward the Soviets. Because Wallace was kind of into working with the Soviets, sharing nuclear secrets with the Soviets to prevent.

He was like, you know, we should start sharing this stuff with the Soviets. Otherwise, they're just going to figure it out and we're going to end up nuking each other soon. And like Truman is like. Everybody, record scratches in the room. Everybody, they're just going to figure it out and we're going to end up nuking each other soon. And like Truman is like Everybody, record scratches in the room. Everybody looks at it. Truman's like, oh, they're never going to

discover it. And then like a year later, like five, three years later, they've got the bomb. But, and it leads to a huge race to all blow each other up. Which is what was predicted.

Guys, I think we should just share it. I mean. Didn't go over well.'s like fuck i'm out with this administration yeah i think uh yeah i think he was he was fired he was forced to leave the administration but they did it i if i recall correctly they did it in a real shady way they like didn't tell him straight up. They like... It was kind of like Godfather. They like sent him out in the rowboat.

They did like a Fredo thing for him. He broke my heart. Well, um... Doesn't Wallace have his beginnings in like DuPont or something? I think he's like... Really?

One of the major chemical businesses i think he found it like you know kind of twist turn of events he ended up giving birth to one of like the largest corporate like destructive corporations out there so he's the reason we all have like C8s in our DNA. Yeah. Yeah. The hybrid corn company, a hybrid corn company that eventually became extremely successful. They are a major producer of genetically modified organisms, including genetically modified crops with insects. Okay. So, wow. Henry Wallace was an early, was a GMO guy.

Yeah. Wow. Before it was a buzzword. Before it was a buzzword. Before it was a buzzword. Back when liberals could support GMOs. Back in those halcyon days when it was... Before they could support GMOs. Great days.

Well, let's probably get ready to wrap this one up. Sam, thanks for joining us. It was a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to the next few days on tour with you guys, too. Yeah. It's going to be fun. It's been a blast. Come hang out if you're in Jacksonville, Florida.

Atlanta, Georgia. Atlanta, GA. On the 3rd and 4th in Nashville, Tennessee. Nashville, Tennessee. On the 5th of August Yeah We'll be The backseat boys

In the bus That's me I've got my Assigned seat Back left corner Someone's gonna try To take it from me Someone will

Tom took mine I like that backseat See the thing is I spent so much time This is how I mentally Prepared for this tour This is like I spent so much time

As a teenager On these buses Going to like Church camp you know youth group stuff yeah that was this that was you know i had a strategy and everything you have to bring your little cd booklet and your little walkman that is true listen to your foo fighters album mom i'm burning cds leave me alone for the next hour the night before before we left, I spent four hours dragging Napster files over. Yeah. Yep, that's what I did. Led Zeppelin's entire discography.

Wow. Well, anyways. So, yeah, come see us on tour. It's been fun. It's fun. Any last words? Well, anyways, so yeah, come see us on tour. It's been fun. It's fun. Any last words? Burn, if you hear this, kill the bird.

Find a bird and strangle it. Set reality straight again. It's birds all the way down. Yeah. Burn the bird. All right. We'll talk to you later.