Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 120: Happy Halloweed

Episode Date: October 31, 2019

We talk travels, run-ins with the law, depression, pleasure activism, Silas House, and we even use the Quija to speak with the (apparently still-living) spirit of one Jeffrey Epstein.

Yo, yo, yo, yo. Welcome back, everybody, to the Tribal Workers Party. I'm your host, Tom Sexton. This week, we got two weary travelers. Very weary. To my left, Mr. Terrence Ray. You might have heard about him from the host of... I don't know where I was going with that.

Hobbs News Hour.. Hobbs News Hour. The Hobbs News Hour. The Hobbs Goblin here. That's right. With Alan LaFleck. Hobbs Goblin. I have I'm seeing the whole world

completely new. I am Another reckoning. I'm a new man. Another renaissance. I haven't smoked weed in two weeks. What? Why? Well well you know why that was enough to shake you loose i've got some charges my parents i was gonna not tell my parents but fucking let's let's get it all out there air out his laundry

this is my fucking diary buckle up betsy hand me some almonds, would you? You know Terrence don't like us chewing on the mic. No, you can eat them. There you go. I put my mic down while I'm chewing. I'm chewing these nuts. No. Now, why didn't I do this before? Why am I smoking weed? That's just the thing.

My life, I think I'd gotten so comfortable in my life. This is why it took me a full year after I got fired to realize that, like, none of this is working for me. I tried to tell you. A lot of people did. But here's the thing, Tanya. My life was on a course, and I couldn't see any deviation from that. And I told people when I got that job, this will be the last job I get in Whitesburg.

This will be the last place I live in Whitesburg. And I guess that's literally true now. I meant it just sort of figuratively like, oh, I'm content now. I've got everything I need. But a few days up north in New York made me realize, like, it's time to start and getting a few weed charges your boy picked up a few ticket caught a case he caught a couple cases i might have got popped a couple as in eight

eight cases your boy caught eight cases and uh i didn't realize the severity of the situation until i was driving you back to your truck and we had to enter Zebulon. Zebulon, Kentucky. That's a place nobody should go. Think no country for old men but in the mountains. And we're getting on past Pikeville

and I'm like, where the fuck is it? Where's your truck? Surely we're not going to phelps yeah damn near we were in damn near phelps knocking on phelps let me just paint a picture here pike county is the largest county geographically in kentucky it's one of the largest counties in the country i think also the richest county per capita east of the mississippi and it has the largest there's a bunch of coal millionaires there that was once true per capita it's also i don't know

if that's true now it was once it's the city of pikeville not the county and because of the wealth in the city of pikeville where a lot of coal money is concentrated. And banks. Multiple East Kentucky banks are headquartered in Pikeville. And because of how. Just. Piss poor. Everyone else outside the city. And the county is in Pike County. That Pike County. Had the largest wealth gap.

In the country for a while. Interesting. Like the median income. Of the city. Was so Interesting. Like the median income of the city. Was so much larger than the median income for the county. Well. Let's just say that the police officers there. Are now the proud new owners of. A couple grams of weed.

Edible. A cartridge. That's my cat. A bowl and a grinder. And now they know that I have an anti-cop podcast. Some dipshit that lives in a cabin 20 miles away has an anti-cop podcast. How do they know that? Because there's three of them,

and they're grilling me on every aspect of my life. What do you do for a living? A good cop, bad cop show. You just didn't tell him he's unemployed? Well, no. Because I'm not. I'm a small business owner now he's a petty tyrant i'm a petty tyrant terence here's your problem it's as much as as much cop hating as we do as much cop hating as we do clearly we had not um made it clear to you that you are never to talk to the motherfucking cops and you're certainly not supposed to admit to them you've done wrong tanya i was like let me let me make an argument my man's

defense here i had dealt the united states secret service one time and this is one of those when keeping it real goes wrong let me tell you something when somebody looks at you they looked at me and they said we got enough on you right now to put you away for class d felony organized crime 20 years i mean i i didn't but i mean like i didn't have to but i'm saying the temptation was there when it's just when it's just easier to just you know cop to it and go on i understand i know that and i i am often trying to get more flies with honey and smooth things over, even though I want to cuss somebody out and take out a kneecap.

I know. And cops are scary. I'm always fucking. I mean, I got pulled over recently. I just realized while you were out taking them back that I recently missed a fucking my court date while I was in Salem. Tanya has a warrant out for arrest. I have a warrant out for arrest.

You do have a bench warrant out for arrest then. Well, can I call them and reschedule my. I wouldn't be driving. Are you serious? We're all goddamn felons here. I just drove from Massachusetts to Kentucky. Well, that might be different, but like in Kentucky. Because I drove, the whole time I was in Arkansas, my license was suspended.

I didn't know it. I drove with expired tags. Yeah, this man, did you not realize that your registration was expired look tanya i was depressed i was deep down in a hole you've been there my life you've been there was going nowhere fortunately fortunately fortunately fortunately when he called me we have the mystifying oracle to get that light to see where you should go when he called me we have the mystifying oracle to get that light to see where you should go when he called me he tells me you know the bare minimum like i need a ride come get me they're towing my truck and the more he told me the more questions i had and i was just like terrence i have so many

questions i ain't coming to zebulon till i get some answers and his response was they can all be answered by i'm a huge dumb ass i'm a complete fucking idiot this is true this is all true do you really think it would have been worse for you if you had been like no i don't have anything sir i mean i really would prefer you not search my truck that's the thing tanya i did say that about three or four times and after the fifth time that i said no i faltered and the guy said you hesitated there you sure you don't have after the fifth time that i said no i faltered and the guy said you hesitated there you sure you don't have anything in your truck and i said all right man i got a couple grams on me that's what i said hey bro stupid as fucking i know but when three cops have you on the side of the road and you gotta piss really bad and they can shoot you and throw

you in a hole in zebulon yeah you could well they could have got rid of you and your truck no quit no just i would however said my grinder was a paperweight. My mother got that from me, son of a bitch. Look, look. I'm so sorry, Terrence. I don't mean to grill you here. I hate that this has happened. You know, here's the thing.

We all need wake-up calls in life. Is that what you think this is? I see the light. I think this is a wake-up call for life is that what you think this is i see the light i think this is a wake-up call for me i've never felt this like clear before i got that job like i have been in the same rut for three goddamn years it's because i got comfortable and i got content and like i said when i got fired that kind of threw everything off and that made me even more sort of depressed and unable to do anything.

Just completely... When you're depressive, it's hard to get the motivation to do shit. It's a wonder I even was able to write several articles and do whatever. Granted, I'm still depressed and I still don't have the motivation to do it. And we're still heading into the season

where that's not going to let up for about three months. But, point being is that it's time to move on, baby. It's like, I gotta... It's time to start a new chapter. It's a new beginning. So your new chapter is going to be moving back in with Tom. Yeah.

Nice plan. Can you do worse for a new chapter? Maybe we can get Brenda to come back and clean the house. Let's get the band back together. We'll move Eric Dixon back into the basement. We'll get Tom's aunt Brenda to come help clean the house on weekends. Shit.

Gosh, damn. No, but look, that was fucked up shit. It was bad. And then you didn't smoke any weed after that. I took one hit with Katie Slinger. Shout out to Katie and Andrew who put me up in Connecticut. Shout out to the Slinger-Larson compound. I caught a fucking chipmunk in their house.

Chipmunks follow me everywhere. What the hell is with your chipmunks? I don't know. I found a chipmunk in their house. They'd never seen one in there before? I guess not. I lay her at work and I got a picture of me holding one. Like, hey! Oh my god.

They're like, what the fuck is he with you and woodland creatures? You're like fucking Peter Pan. You play a little flute. Or not Peter Pan, the Pied Piper. You play a flute and they just all follow you through the forest. Dr. fucking Doolittle. The Pied Pper was a pederast i believe yeah my point stands isn't that weird there's like a whole folk tale about a pederast who just plays the flute and kids follow him into dark corners oh my god also another thing i was listening so i've been trying to get in the

holiday spirit and i was listening to this history of horror podcast and eli roth that you know from inglorious bastards did all the hostiles or whatever cabin fever which i i maintain is a great excellent horror movie yeah he said that it was funny that in the 80s freddy krueger had his own like saturday morning talk show for kids and everybody conveniently forgot the whole storyline of freddy krueger had his own Saturday morning talk show for kids. And everybody conveniently forgot the whole storyline of Freddy Krueger is that he was a pedophile that was chased into his building and burned down. I didn't know that. Yeah. Is that true?

That's his origin. That's Freddy Krueger's origin story. He became a pop culture icon in the 80s along with Michael Jackson. Jesus Christ. Well, Michael Jackson's a little more. Freddy Krueger didn't write Thriller or Billie Jean. That's true. Or Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'.

That one's really the best. God damn, that's so heartbreaking to me that I just can't ever enjoy Michael Jackson the same way. You can. It's like we were talking about. Is Thriller fair game? Yeah, but Man in the Mirror... Man in the Mirror, that's the cutoff.

That's a man reckoning with his own pederasty. God damn. Anyways. You know how we were making fun of the Lexington Thriller? I'm not going to go there. Why is there a Lexington Thriller party? There's a Thriller parade in Lexington. They do it every year.

I think it's cool. I think it's problematic. It's weird. You don't like it? Tanya! It's canceled. I think it's problematic. It's weird. You don't like it? Tanya! He's canceled. Michael Jackson is super canceled. But he's really not.

He's really not. But you just said Thriller's fair game. You know how N.E.R.D., the band's like, no one ever really dies? NERC. No one ever is really canceled. He's super canceled. NERC. Oh.

I kind of thought on the way here for some reason I was thinking about our friend canceling Someone we know like in a party Just like funny just being like I already told you all She's canceled just don't bring it up anymore Everybody just spread the word she's canceled And I kind of played out this sketch comedy In my head of like a friend group Having to reckon because someone canceled

Someone and then like finding out by word of mouth And then like asking to have a mediation about being canceled and never really coming up with why they were canceled but like this whole like thing about like did you cancel me? Like why would you do that? Wasn't that the premise?

Wasn't that the plot of Franz Kafka's The Metamorphosis? I have no idea. He's constantly trying to, he's on trial for being canceled and he's constantly, he never is told why he's canceled. He's just canceled. Just pure cancellation. Yeah.

Before we get too far away from pederasty, one thing I do want to bring up is that the news that Jeffrey Epstein's suicide actually looks like a homicide. That's right. Shocking. Oh, they put that out publicly? Actually, I'm glad we've shifted to Epstein because on the way back from Massachusetts, my friend that I went with, our friend, she apparently has been eyebrow deep like Terrence in these Epstein podcasts and shit. and so she was telling me all this stuff i didn't know because i feel like i can never get terrence to tell me all of it because he

thinks he's just crazy but i want to be in the crazy like i'm just so anyway we want to take the red pill yeah see how deep the rabbit hole goes yeah she was telling me how deep the rabbit hole goes you're probably right but she was she was telling me stuff that i didn't know about i mean we were we ended up just talking about how for the last several there's many years everyone who encountered this man knew exactly what he did and even publicly like because he had given so much money to colleges he would go and speak at college campuses and they all knew what he did and so much money to colleges he would go and speak at college campuses and they all knew what he did and he would show up there with like 16 year old girls on his arm no one's ever really canceled particularly if you're a billionaire i don't know

all this shit well you know the guy that um what's his name acosta j Jim Acosta. Yeah. He was like, I guess, prosecutor or... What the fuck? I don't know. He helped Epstein's case in Florida. This is back when I smoked a lot of weed, so the details are hazy. He was in the Trump administration. You see everything clearly now. I see everything clearly now, including how badly I never quite understood anything.

Including the Epstein stuff. one day you're gonna i'm saying the epstein case through sober eyes one day this podcast will be submitted as evidence in a case i'm not gonna say any more it will probably for or you're gonna have to send it to your therapist for them to work out the details. Just use this as a jumping off point. This podcast itself is a product of my own lethargy and just stoned, you know, I don't know what the word is I'm looking for. And now we've hit CNN, baby. Straight up failing upward. I think it's a... That's like a flat circle thing. We say that we'll get a call next week.

Yeah, we're killing the story. Babe, that's fine. That's fine. If that happens, let it come what may, I say. Yeah, Epstein would literally just be like, I'm not going to apologize for my taste in women. He did say that, uh-huh he was unapologetic about his he would show up everywhere everyone knew and they people in hollywood all

these politicians of course they just these people are so sick they are it's very hard for me to reckon with and sarah's talking about how he was managing the money of this, like, Columbus, Ohio tycoon guy. Mm-hmm. Because she's in Columbus a lot. She lives near there. And how, like, now there's all these conspiracy theories about. Oh, yeah, the founder of Victoria's Secret. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that guy. Lex Wexner. Lex Wexner. That's how deep the rabbit hole goes, Todd. Of course a man found a Victoria's Secret. Yeah.

So uncomfortable. Well, it's like Hugh Hefner. It's like kind of the same concept, I guess, to me. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Just so truly sick.

How did I not know all this? I just, honestly, i'm pissed at you this is this is me reckoning okay you wouldn't tell me all this stuff even though i'm fucking ass and now i have to hear it from somebody else that he had planes with padded floors for sex parties well you with children you asked me off the mic we'll talk about it all you want off the mic there's a whole podcasting industry about the epstein stuff there's a true there's a podcast called true and none yeah true which is carved out the dirtbag left irony part of the we have no stake in this but go check out true and not well i mean the point being is that that's their thing there's nothing we can say there's nothing we can say

that they haven't already said it's a content thing thing. So I should go listen to it. It's a content battle. Okay. You know what I mean. It's like. Well, I was today years old when I found out you can just double speed a podcast and listen to it like fucking Alvin and the Chipmunks and go through it in double the time. I half speed it with ours because it's fucking hilarious. It's so fucking funny listening to Tanya on half speed. Oh my God. She's like like i love ouija boards and then we're like oh i've got a fucking tiny yep i hate this i hate that people are able to hear me in this way and i have no control over it

this woman played it for me today and I was like this is sick. I'm here. We need to do Chopped and Screwed where we just slow an episode down. I demand that no one play me on double speed anymore. Or half speed. Well one way you could get around that is by

speaking on this podcast in double speed so when they do play it at double speed it's so fast they can't even hear it. I feel like we have picked up the tempo here. Doesn't it feel that way? It's because no weed, baby. It's like we're attacking. It's called no weed.

Yeah, we're not slowing down. It bogs you down, man. It clouds your mind. Granted, I'm going to smoke again probably. For my birthday. For Easter and Christmas. Right but i'm socially i'm done you're done with weed really i'm not done with it completely but i'm done smoking it every day hey hey hey don't smoke weed every day as let me ask you a question. Has Jesus' king gotten to you if you decided to go back to the church?

Like Kanye, I have decided to refrain from premarital sex. I've rededicated my life to Christ. Mm-hmm. What did y'all think about that album? I haven't heard it. It was doo-doo. It was doo-doo.

Listen, I'm a connoisseur of, it's documented we're connoisseurs of contemporary Christian music. And even by that bar, still not good. Yeah, you want some good Christian rap, check out a little man named T-Bone. I'm not referring to Cory Booker's The Demon Killer. The Demon Killer, that's right. Oh my God.

Lecrae's good. Gritz, that was my shit. Gritz was good. What's his name? Wasn't he in Wu-Klang? Yeah my Gritz was good What's his name Wasn't he in Woo Clank In fucking Yeah Gritz was in Wu-Tang

Which Wu-Tang member Was a Christian You got No It was a rapper And he just His name was Something like

Toby Mac His name meant You know awful And he just dropped A couple letters And it turned into God damn it Sounds like you've been smoking too much weed

I've been on vacation In fucking Salem Everybody there is high Talk about cops who were swarming Salem. It was awful. I bet they were. Yeah, you think it's charming. You see the little witches flying on their cars, but...

Another thing. Cops were everywhere. I'm also literate in the ways of the city now. He takes one. Got a couple urban nights there, huh? Yeah. One trip. New York City rocks.

I was at this intersection and this black dude walked came up on a scooter on a motorized scooter and there was this black woman cop walking on the thing and he was talking so much shit to her fuck you you fucking pig bitch and all this like just talking mad shit i was like hell yeah hell yeah my brother you tell her he's like fuck you too oh i'm sorry i'm sorry uh my bad it was badass do you like the new conya i like your city uh you got here we made the grand mistake of driving through new york city to get to salem we didn't do it on the way home. We ended up on the George Washington

Bridge for five hours or something. That would have given Tom such a bad panic attack. I drove on so many... You'd have to throw him off the bridge. Be on a bridge for five hours would put me down. I'd just run and jump off the bridge. I couldn't take it anymore. I couldn't wait for it to collapse. I'd have to just take matters

into my own hands. I spent so much time on bridges in New York, I was like, Tom could never do this. I couldn't let, no, listen. Let me describe the old hands

when I drive across a bridge. Immediately, my heart starts pounding out of my chest. And it's not clear if I'm going to make it to the other side without passing out

and causing a 14-car pileup. When we went to see Sturgill Simpson in Northern Kentucky. He shot across four lanes of traffic on the interstate. I said, Tonya, can you drive across this bridge for me? He nearly killed us to pull off on a shoulder

on the interstate, which nobody wants to be on an interstate shoulder. And we switched real quick and got back, and so I drove. Had no idea she was a worse driver than me. Oh, shut the fuck up. That woman driver. I I was so. She's a worse driver than me. Oh, shut the fuck up. That woman driver. I look over and he's placing bets on his phone.

And I was like, did you make, did you almost kill us so that you could get a bet in in time? And now I know you're good enough to know that that was a coping mechanism. To calm me down, I had to place a sizable wager on the Pittsburgh Pirates. You've cracked the essential truth of math. He was so upset he had to place a wager. There is something. You want to talk about disease, talk about addiction. There is nothing I feel better about than when I just lose money gambling.

Winning money is nice, but losing just feels like there's a burden. It's like, oh, yeah, you're right, universe. I shouldn't have had all that money anyway. Are you kidding me? It's just so relieving. It's like. This is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I don't know.

Interesting. It's my favorite things to do. It's to lose money. Gamble and win money and then gamble and lose money. Which one do you like more? I like winning better don't get me wrong that's that's better but you do like losing i don't like it there's just like like uh you're like yeah let me ask you a question you ever just get tired of yourself

every day i mean doing this podcast like you get tired of hearing yourself talk every goddamn day baby just hate yourself like oh intensely every aspect through and through losing all your money and at the same time having no idea how you're going to make rent or you know whatever it is you need to take care of it's just it's a freeing experience you're like me you're a masochist except where i'm as i'm a masochist in like a physical way, you're like a masochist in like a, I don't know. What is gambling? Spiritual?

I don't know what she calls it. I don't know. I don't know what plane of reality you engage in gambling on. I don't know. I have bad days, but most days I'm okay with myself. I just caught a peek of PB out there from the window, and I just saw two green eyes just looking at me from the darkness on all hollows of you. I was like, oh, fuck.

Oh, wow, it is all hollows of you. Yeah, the veil between the living and the dead is the thinnest tonight. Wow. Fucking corn night. Let's go cool. Let's go fucking corn some fucking Zebulon cops. Let's do it. You know who I'd really like to fuck up Who What's his name the doctor

Pellegrini I'll help you Let's go let all the air out of his tires And then super glue the things back on I always wanted to get a piano wire And Gerard him God okay well we can go that route Does he play to get a piano wire and garrot him. God!

Okay, well we can go that route too! Does he play piano? Was that an anti-Italian sentiment? What the fuck? We learned this past week that That was a joke. It was a joke. You can't be racist to Italians.

At least according to Paul Krugman. Oh shit! Did y'all see where i should tell you this earlier where trump had photoshopped that that picture of him putting a metal on the dog i'm sure he didn't photoshop it himself somebody i got a lot of questions about the al bagnati uh extrajudicial killing oh yeah me too this is oh there's a lot to say about the drive home from Massachusetts because we tried to get caught back up on headlines and it was dark and one of them was this and of course you know this just shows my ignorance that I when I saw that he saw the headline that he had what the headline was some fucked up thing like uh trump kills a crying whining terrorist some crazy you know some crazy shit and i was like

oh god to to divert from impeachment he's went out and killed some cowboy and flip-flops and named him we got him folks blew him right out of that fucking cabin and after dead declared this man the world's most dangerous terrorist and so then I went this is how I often do I went to BBC to try to see

what they said about it and compare the two I think the first one I saw was on CNN nothing about it on BBC here two i think that's the first one i saw was on cnn nothing about it on bbc here's my question one word so i was in the barber shop yesterday getting lined up as you can tell hit me baby looks good yeah so uh a couple things when we had a big discussion about where the election was headed but there was there was clarity. And I've spent enough time online, I tried to parse it out, but I didn't really know at the time.

So Trump, during the official statement, said he died like a dog. Yeah. But also a dog had a hand in his killing? Apparently, yeah. A lot of dog action in this killing. So there was a classified dog. Yeah.

Like a cop dog, I guess. Yes yes that cornered al baghdadi and al baghdadi like killed himself like suicide bombed himself with 13 of his followers is that what happened i don't know i kind of get the impression he pleaded for his life to the dog and the dog was like i don't give a fuck just like at the end of once upon a time in hollywood yes well i got the back newsroom story from a new from al-qaeda from your al-qaeda connects what what are what are our friends in al-qaeda saying about the al-baghdadi killing what's bizarre is that trump watched this happen of course but there was no audio how could he decipher if anyone was whimpering about anything for one and then all these generals that have been interviewed since

then two of those guys are definitely uh got extras from saving private yeah and they've been even when they've been asked about what do you what do you make of all the whimpering and begging and crying and they were all none of they were all just like i don't well bizarre shit what's hilarious about this and this is this has got at trump's core this has got to be killing him okay and i'm not saying that i support extrajudicial killings even for the worst people okay i'm not saying any of that stuff. I'm not saying I support Barack Obama. But you know that deep down, Donald Trump has to have some inferiority complex that Barack Obama got the big fish

while he got the fucking sunfish. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's the subtext for sure. You know what I'm saying? Definitely. It's like... This is just, it's so sick. Republicans in general, I think,

were bummed that they couldn't be the one that got bin laden although they're but they're they're trying to do the thing like acting like al baghdadi was like a like a household name yeah that's what i'm saying i was like who is this guy who is this motherfucker and even cnn was like the world's most wanted terrorist and i was like am i that unplugged? Am I this much of a dumbass? Which the short answer to that is yes. I am that big of a dumbass.

I'll save you some time. Yes, I'm a dumbass. Confirmed. But I was just like, this is bizarre. Honestly, this whole thing feels to me like the same thing as him bringing those poor parents in to the White House. Follow up on that. To talk about their dead son and then bringing his killer into the room. They're suing him now for criminal negligence.

Thank God. They're suing the Trump administration. It never ends. The party goes on. The beer runs forever and the party never ends. The party goes on. The beer runs forever and the party never ends. That's right, baby. Do you think Trump, he's become president, I'm convinced, for one reason. That's to shield himself from being tried for as many myriad crimes.

But now, I feel like he commits a crime every day. But nobody's ever, listen, nobody's ever going to, obviously we know now that presidents are above reproach when they're in office. But two, who the fuck is actually going to try a president after? Like if that were true, Bill Clinton would fucking be in jail right now. You know what I mean? I was in Connecticut and went to go look at Andrew's classroom

and he was teaching the Teapot Dome scandal. Orangey Harder. We were laughing about was teaching the Teapot Dome scandal. Orangey Harding. We were laughing about it because the Teapot Dome scandal was, if you look at it, it was a scandal that the Trump administration like loses in its couch cushions on like a Tuesday. Like these days. Very minute. Yes. Right. Now, yeah, there is nothing.

Although I don't know. I mean. right now yeah there is nothing although i don't know i mean he also in the newsroom he it very clearly gave up which this isn't the first time of course but he revealed so much classified information just just and and all the journalists are in there just like looking at each other like they know this is not good and but they just keep asking they're like well he's gonna keep telling it i mean he's the fucking president he's like we found a tunnel three weeks ago and you know just all this shit just not this insane shit what's it fucking called do you remember jonah goldberg is i remember that name wasn't he didn't he get disgraced for falsifying some journalism or something? He wrote that book, Liberal Fascism, like in the Obama years.

Oh, God. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, wrong guy. Well, he had a tweet today that I thought was pretty fucking hilarious. Let's see if I can find it real quick. The gist of it was essentially Trump, everybody knows Trump is lying. And he's basically caught in this like jonah goldberg is a piece of shit right winger um but i thought it was interesting because it kind of felt like he was expressing like a common sentiment on the right like everybody knows trump

has gotten caught lying and all this shit and like he can still get out of it as long as he like owns up to it and this is almost exactly what he said, which is funny for the one reason. Cause it's like, Trump is never going to apologize or own up to anything in his life. He'll just keep digging in forever. But the second thing is like, it makes me wonder if he really would be easily beaten in 2020. Like I'm really starting to get the sense that like to avoid some kind of

like impeachment showdown, maybe the Democrats will sort of like, I don't know, or the, or the republicans can like i don't know put their thumb on the scale for fucking biden or whoever the just give up yeah in the election yeah yeah yeah because like they don't i don't think they won an impeachment because it really is going to fuck up their 2020 chances um but if they could like maneuver it in a way to like throw him under the bus and simultaneously get a centrist candidate like biden it works out for them in the end that would all work out well i mean so they've already had what three or four no-shows subpoenas people have been subpoenaed and not showed up yeah okay so multiple when we were when i was gone this happened while i was gone we uh those

republicans stormed that hearing of the dod guy testifying with their phones out and the parents right well did they fuck up some like they like made some secure room extremely hackable yes right like those hearings are always off limits to all any kind of like electronic device or anything like that they're in there with fucking they're like your aunt judy at a fucking uh graduation with an ipod ipad out taking fucking pictures with it they they stormed in there with a bunch of 2010 second generation ipads but i don't know so maybe jonah goldberg is like a never trump guy so maybe it's just fantasy maybe it's like maybe brett stevens yeah they'll never abandon him i guess like but ever truly y'all remember when trump first got in office and like i don't know if it

was like some sort of airstrike they were doing in Yemen or some shit but he's like having dinner with Shinzo Abe at Mar-a-Lago and like there's people gathering around and he's like look how cool this is I can just like call in like airstrikes from my cell phone and shit

how is it that the dumber and worse they act Republicans just like feel upward look at the trajectory of your average Republican Is it that the dumber and worse they act, Republicans just like feel upward? They are like, look at the trajectory of your average Republican. They wrote the book. Look at the life cycle for a Republican. You grow up. You're in your house.

You're like playing sports. You're in your home. The whole time you're in your home, your dad's telling you stuff like black people steal. Latinos start fires. All this kind of stuff. Jesus Christ. Women are only for your pleasure. Corporations are people.

Corporations are people. Then they go to college. And then they're like, they join fraternities. And they, it's encouraged for them to act horrible for four to seven years. Damn. Seven years? And then they go to law school where they do well because they're like just the most hyper-competitive dickheads that think this is their birthright.

And then they become senators. Where they become errand boys for the errand billionaire billionaire class but i i can't all that like i mean they're groomed for that but how have they how do they just continue to be monsters and idiots at the same time and could people continue to vote for them i know this is like stupid like we're just back in 2016 here for a minute but i am truly and this is all bringing me to talk about katie hill honestly because i'm just like we have a literal rapist in the white house confirmed rapist no ifs ands or buts about it i talked to lawyers about that but yeah yeah and we have multiple And we have multiple loons, fucking abusers, assaulters on the Supreme Court.

Yeah. At this point. And this poor girl had a consensual threesome with her fucking husband and had to resign because of revenge porn. This has fucked me up a little bit. And honestly, of course, we could say like. She was her subordinate or whatever. Which is like true, but that's mild by comparison. No, I wouldn't even say that. I was gonna say like Fuck

electoral politics altogether. That's the best I can back up and do and just be like well fuck it, it didn't matter anyway. For myself and my own head, but God damn! She put out a fucking homophobe run even though she was married to a man it's clear that she's bi queer and now i'm just like

pelosi made this woman resign like like they they forced this woman to resign Gator clap Katie should have known who she was fucking with she was fucking with Pelosa I don't know anything

about this fucking situation look this was when I was on vacation I just know Katie looks like she likes to party that's cool absolutely whatever

she looks like somebody we would all want That's cool. Absolutely. Whatever. She looks like somebody we would all want to hang out with. She's going through a nasty divorce. I've dug into this quite a bit. Yeah, she's married to that Joe Rogan ass looking motherfucker. Well, not anymore. It's her ex-husband. She's going through a messy divorce. And he's the one that put all that out there?

And he has released a bunch of revenge porn of him and her in a threesome with one of her staffers from her campaign and so she quit because pelosi pressured her to quit she had to resign is it the democrats trying to do that like how like when they go low we go high like y'all got a veritable who's who rapist on your roster exactly yeah exactly it's because they want it's like they want to be able to say that they are clean and pure or some bullshit. Because they are not. For one. I just can't fathom it.

Like, she's a rep in her own hometown. Uh-huh. She's run on healthcare for all. It's just... So your takeaway from this is, fuck electoral politics. No, that was the only way I could stop

myself from crying about it. Oh, yeah, okay. That makes sense. You know what I mean? Like, I was literally just, like, having a complete meltdown about it. I had to be like, you know, it doesn't matter anymore. I just have one question for Representative Hill. She learned the error of her ways and quit smoking pot.

Look what it's done over here. Look what it's done for me. I insist that she's a pleasure activist now. Welcome to the movement, sis. You're big on this pleasure activism. Fuck yeah, it's my Bible. Interesting. It's the first AK Press book to hit the New York Times bestseller list.

Really? Yep. Interesting. It ain't just me, baby. Wow. There's a sea of us out here. Well, my Bible is the Holy Bible, which says all pleasures. Yeah, laid out here right now in front of us is the holy bible

with two books stacked on top of it which is sacrilegious in itself my mama would never let you lay things on the bible and the top one is why we need a green new deal yeah i'm doing some reading i'm learning about things cash just okay i went to new york and hung out with book publishers And they said Here's our books Here's our ideas Take them to the provinces Spread the good word What do they say in Harlan County about a green new deal? Look

Well okay If I could just Let's bring this back to me Let's bring this back to me all right let's let's bring this back to me sure i don't know uh yeah so i went to buffalo buffalo is also pretty cool i like buffalo i know people will probably be like oh buffalo but here's the thing buffalo you know what i just realized you were in the city of a season of the bitch host yeah it was while a season of the Bitch host. Yeah, it was. While a Season of the Bitch host was here. Was here. Crazy.

We talked about it, too. Shout out, Kellen. Crazy. We switched places. Yeah. Freaky Friday, huh? But, I mean, Kellen lives in New York City, but there's a Season of the Bitch host

from Buffalo, too. Lauren, I believe. Yeah. Yeah, shout out, Kellen. I had a nice little rendezvous with Kellen the other day. And she brought us a gift, too. Oh, nice. Yeah, Kellen, he...

I hope it's not weed. Tom called me. Better keep it away from me. No, it's whiskey. Great. I said, oh, yeah, Kellen's real cool. Duh. Kellen is great.

Okay, well, all right, back to me. Let's bring it back to me. Tell us about your new... It's about getting me some water. I'm choking on almonds over here. I hear you. I hate it. I can't stand the sound of it. Sorry.

I told you you was going to get in trouble. I told you from Jump Street. Buffalo was so tight because you'll have against Lake Erie just, you know, miles of bombed out and

depleted old steel works and steel factories and you know just abandoned buildings and warehouses and and right in the middle of them there will be like some fancy fucking art project it is so much like eastern Kentucky and so in some

ways it's hilarious it's like you know like they've tried to do the whole creative place making thing abandoned barns with murals on yeah they've done these like fancy art projects like and just put them in a fucking abandoned still works and be like we're revitalizing it yeah it's pretty tight um, no, I did a lot of exploring around Buffalo. Went east, stopped at the Montezuma Wildlife Refuge. Saw some birds there. It's like a stop on migratory patterns.

Wow. Yeah, it was awesome. That's cool. Went to the Adirondacks, went to Connecticut, went to New York. Oh. So. You missed Salem, though. Yeah.

How was your trip? How was your trip? Um. Did you. So, earlier you said you were, like, getting back into the world. Did you just completely disconnect from all news when you were on the road? Oh, yeah. Yep.

I guess I kind of did. I mean, I guess i kind of did i mean i guess i kind of we didn't know that trump had hunted down the world's most wanted terrorist while we were on our helen trip what else happened so well it was a three day we. We were in Boston, Salem for three full days. Two days of travel on each end. It's fucking far. It was really far away.

But it was a beautiful drive for the most part when we weren't on the George Washington Bridge. Uh-huh. Which was brutal. It wasn't five hours, but it felt like it. We, okay, here are the coolest things we did the salem witch board museum the only witch board museum i got something to say about that so cool in that bonus episode i brought up the ouija board and i said yeah that's the granddaddy of my you said oh no not really yet every picture looked like just some variation of a Ouija board.

Yeah, you were right. Holy shit. Don't question me on three things. What are they, Terrence? Hit me, baby. Diverticulitis. Ulcerative colitis. Ouija board.

Dengue hemorrhagic fever. Rabies, Ouija boards, and basketball. I've never heard Tanya say, you're right. Whatever. You were right. I give this thing a two. That is true. That is not true.

Y'all act like I'm a fucking nut. No, not a nut. Not a nut, just non-conciliatory. Very proud. Very proud individual. Not a nut. There's a difference. I'll tell y'all when you were out.

And it ain't often. That's true. No, yeah, you were out. Anyway. Well, they didn't all say Ouija, actually. But here is why most of them are Ouija boards. Do you know why? No clue.

How Ouija came to be named? I can debunk one theory. It does not mean yes in French and yes in german that's like the rumor no that's not true no when they first created this talking witch board they asked it what its name was and it spelled out ouija ouija no shit yep and then they asked what does that mean any guesses mystifying oracle no sturdy wood board with original graphics Any guesses? Mystifying Oracle. No. Sturdy wood board with original graphics. Good luck.

That's it? So that's why it has goodbye and good luck? Ouija means good luck. Good luck. So, okay. See, there was a lot of questions about its origin story. A lot of people think it just meant we

which is French for yes and y'all which is German for yes. No, it spelled that

out. It chose its own name. The talking board chose But interesting that it is

the combination of those two things. That is true. If you're wondering folks we have a Ouija board

here and I brought it tonight so that one because it's Halloween All Hallows Eve again the time when the veil between the living and the dead is the thinnest, the night. And also because Terrence needs some direction in his new course. That's for sure.

I'm good, actually. Okay, actually, he says he's good. But because it is Halloween, we're still going to ask the Ouija board where Terrence should move to, what he should do next. Yeah, I'm into it. Well, he says he knows where he's going, but anyway. That's not true. Okay, then. Well, let's just talk to Epstein.

Okay, tell me. Who has said that it's homicide? There was just a... I don't know if it was some sort of sort of terrence tweeted it and now it's fucking a fish this is professional thing now it was some uh i don't know it was some like i don't know what you call like the new york da whatever who what was it he was the former coroner coroner or something, medical examiner for New York City. This is terrible radio.

He's screaming from the bathroom. He's from New York City. How would he know? Did he have access to documentation, to documents, to his body? They did a separate autopsy. Who did? Jeffrey Epstein's brother. Pop us open here.

Oh, Jeffrey Epstein's brother had a separate autopsy done and released that information to other people who could figure this out, and they all determined it was homicide? Well, they didn't. The current New York medical examiner said it's not homicide. She said it was suicide. She vehemently disagrees. But Jeff Epstein's brother. She's also the

executive vice president of the Clinton Foundation. Yeah, tell me, tell me who's going to go down if it turns out that this facility he was in, wherever he was housed, allowed this man to be murdered. Sounds like one for the Ouija board.

Okay. You don't want to do Ouija in your house? Oh, come on. You guys, every time you do black magic in here, some fucked up shit happens. Well, listen.

Name one. Name one example. I got fired. Oh, yeah, that is true. That was fucked up shit. When, how is that connected to my magic?

I got charges. He does have a new course. How is that connected to my magic? Let's keep it to Epstein. This is endangering my new course. Are you scared of this Ouija board Let's keep it to Epstein. This is endangering my new course. Are you scared of this Ouija board?

Yes, I'm scared of this Ouija board. Let me ask you all a question. Let me ask you all a question. You know how, do you think before the movie It came out that clowns were considered wildly creepy? No. No? Yeah. Yes. Do you think No? Yeah. Yes.

Do you think, like... Yeah, I think so. Yeah, like, also, the Ouija board probably was, like, just, like, playing with a magic eight ball or something before, like, The Exorcist came out, right? Um, well...

This one pays tribute to William Fold, the guy whose... The Ouija board killed him. Oh, fuck. Why? Fold was the inventor of the Ouija board killed him. Oh, fuck. Why? Fold was the inventor of the Ouija board for those that don't know. And it killed him? Why are we doing this? Well, there's what happened to him. You should have told me this. I would have brought my

candles and stuff. This feels there's too much light in here. So, Fold consulted the wisdom of his creation, the Ouija, who said he should build a third factory to keep up with Ouija demand in Pittsburgh, and guess what?

He fell from the third floor of that same factory and it killed him. Wow. But I would argue capitalism killed him. I would argue for a materialist explanation, the workers killed him. Yeah. It's good. For sure. Alright, who's playing?

What are we asking? Here. What are we asking? A couple of things, actually. We're going to consult the wisdom. I'll tell you what to ask. Ask it if I did... Did I do...

Did I make a... Did I do a no growth? Did I do a no growth by going after Silas House today on Twitter? Oh, yeah. What happened? Tell me. Let's talk to by going after Silas House today on Twitter? Oh, yeah. What happened? Tell me.

Let's talk to the ghost of Silas House. You stepped on my kid here. Oh. You're stepping on my cords. All right. Here's the agreement. What did you do on Twitter? I made a no growth.

I did a no growth. What's that mean? Look, Silas House wrote an essay about the 1919 Corbin race riots in which 200 black people who lived in Corbin were rounded up, put on a freight train, and shipped the fuck out of town. This is after a white man was stabbed. So after a white man was stabbed, it incited a race riot, or pogrom. I don't call it a race riot.

It was fucking pogrom, basically. What's pogrom mean? You know, like a mask cleansing yes um and silas house wrote something in time magazine about how um the he did this like a year ago he did it a year like a year ago but he reposted it today and i was like um and so you're not high anymore what's holding you back so i've got a new course. Basically, he was saying that Corbin isn't that Corbin anymore because they've got downtown revitalization efforts and a new Wrigley Taproom brewery that focuses on diversity and something.

My point was that you can't fucking conflate. This is racism. My point was that you can't fucking conflate. This is racism. It has a very specific origin. And a very specific historical connotation. Right. You can't conflate it with like rainbow flags. You're opening up a fucking farm to table restaurant.

With rainbow flags out front. I'm sorry. It's just not the same fucking thing. No. Agreed. And what benefit is there to say that race that Corbin has reckoned with all its racism that's of course

not true America hasn't to be fair he didn't say that Corbin reckoned with all of its racism and he didn't say that like this is basically what he was saying was it's a step in the right direction and I disagree with that.

I don't agree with that at all. I don't think that small businesses are a step in the right direction towards, you know, addressing the fact that in the summer of 1919, we had regular race riots in every major city in this country. Yeah. And Corbin was one of them. More white-owned businesses. And when? When? 1919. But let me. It's called the Red Summer. and Corbin was one of them. More white-owned businesses. When?

1919. But let me... It's called the Red Summer. Well, so this is a year, or the 100-year anniversary? Yeah. Is that why you shared it? Yeah, that's why I shared it.

Let me ask you this, though, Terrence. Have you yourself broke bread in the Wrigley Taproom? I have not. So I don't have a fucking leg to stand on here. Tom, you're saying... Damn it. Are you saying that... Fucking son of a bitch.

It's very fresh beef in there. Well, anyways, he said that as a gay man, he has a very... You know... What's the word? He knows about bigotry. Oh, he dug in.

Did he? But all I gotta say to that is you're fucking white, man. Yeah, you don't get to escape your whiteness with that. You don't get to escape your whiteness with something else. Like, I don't get to escape my whiteness with, you know, poverty or whatever. Look, the point is, is like, I'm just, I'm not trying to like, I just think it's disgusting.

People were mad that I use that language, but I do, I think that that's outrageous. People were mad that I used that language, but I do. I think that that's outrageous. People were mad that you used the word disgusting on Twitter. Yeah, disgusting is shameful. On Twitter.com. Yeah, yeah. I just think that that's a... If you were the descendant or the victim of this event,

wouldn't you think it's a little outrageous that somebody is saying that, like... When you juxtapose that violent event with this like saturn like smarmy vision of like downtown revitalization yeah it's like what i don't i just think that's it's so there's such a gap there it's almost a joke it is it is this is the just transition movement right yeah it's like yeah it's like it ain't nothing against Silas or an indictment on his abilities or whatever. It's just that, like, y'all need to just dump that shit.

Get a class analysis. Examine what race and racism is. Where does it come from? I don't know. You could tell that story. I'll give you a hint. Give you a hint. Can we ask the Ouija?

Let's ask the Ouija. Ouija. Okay, here. Let's all get a hand in here. Don't you have a candle in here? Light one of these candles for God's sake. Make it a little witchy. Hold on.

Let me get a lighter. Bring these lights down. Help me out here. Get any incense going. What's this? Stand back. Stand back. I breathe fire.

I can light these candle with my breath. It's alright. It's alright. I just ate a stink bug. Standing in your life. There was a stink bug in there for sure. Standing in your life. Fuck.

The man's quit smoking weed for three days. He can't find a fucking lighter in here. You won't even expect me to believe this. You got a fucking fireplace. How'd you light that fire? I won't buy. Just an invitation would have been just fine.

Y'all are the sorriest damn witches I've ever seen. You call yourself a witch. Hey, if them matches wouldn't have plucked off a grave in Salem, I don't want to use them for this. I do have souls in my grave in Salem. Let's not jump off the deep end here. Terrence did have a series of

unfortunate events after that tarot reading. That tarot reading had nothing to do with him getting fired. I don't know. Is that what you think? Listen. I've been running down the load, trying to loosen my load.

I've been jacking on my load, trying to loosen my load. I've got seven women on my mind. Tell me, Mr. Weegee. Here, Tonya. Wow. Did y'all see that? It's in Nails. Did y'all see that Grady Hendrix story that was going around Twitter?

No. It was like obviously fucking bullshit. What was it? That everybody was like, oh my God, is that real? He tells the story about how he says, this is for my childhood. This is a trauma. He said, I knew that when I was a kid I could go down. Actually, I shouldn't actually commit to Grady Hendrix's gender

because I'm not sure. But Grady says that I could go downstairs and I could, damn it, eat myself silly every night. I could go eat all the leftovers from the Chinese restaurant, all the pizza, everything I wanted. And he said, but one night I went downstairs, and there was a guy in our kitchen, and he was drinking our milk, and he was eating stuff. He said, over the course of several months, I would go, and I would notice little things were out of place in the kitchen. and I would notice little things were out of place in the kitchen.

He said, and then one day I was asleep and I looked up and there were two eyes looking at me from the ducks. A couple months later there was a smell coming from the ducks and it was a dead body. Somebody had been living in the heat ducks in the house. Holy fuck. It's not true. No, I mean, it's one of those things. Oh, yeah. Me and Tom have a new segment called Didn't Happen. That's going to. No, I mean, it's one of those things. Oh, yeah. Me and Tom

have a new segment called Didn't Happen. That's going to get a big didn't happen. People say stuff on the internet and... Is that what you're trying to do to Silas today? Didn't happen. Didn't happen, bro. Epstein didn't happen. Didn't happen. Did not happen. Alright.

Lights are low. We got a candle on. What do you want to ask this thing? First off, let's get to the bottom of Epstein didn't happen. Didn't happen. Did not happen. All right. Lights are low. We got a candle on. What do you want to ask this thing? We're going to ask... First off, let's get to the bottom of Epstein. We're going to talk to Epstein? Yeah. Let's do it. All right.

Brother Jeffrey. We actually do have a brand new William Fold edition Ouija mystifying oracle in front of us. Okay. I'm just going to get a little video just to verify here. So y'all, if y'all would, if you would place your hands on what's commonly referred to as the planchette okay now listen let's make a damn agreement here because every fucking too much pressure every fucking ouija session i've ever done invariably ends up saying you're moving it no you're moving it so let's do this the right way okay okay let's do this the right way let's? Okay. Let's do this the right way.

Let's make the agreement right now that nobody is going to move this, okay? Then what do we do? Like, you don't move it, Tommy. It's supposed to move itself. Tommy is moving it. Okay, calm down. I'm not moving. I'll be asking the questions here, Mr. Ouija. First of all, I want to know, are there any spirits in this cabin?

If there are any spirits in this cabin, please make yourself known. Oh, spirit free. Okay. Spirit free Okay If there are any Spirits in this cabin Perhaps you're Not hearing me

Please make yourself known You've got your You've got AirPods in You've got your EarPods in You're listening to Pod Save America

You're listening to The Eagles I'm running down the road Trying to loosen my load. Okay. Obviously, we're two honest players here. Okay. Is brother Jeffrey Epstein out there somewhere in the ether?

Oh, fuck. I don't know if you just saw that, but it just veered towards me. Holy shit. Okay. It almost ripped my arm off. Okay. That was fucking crazy. God.

Okay. Jeffrey, if you would, tell us where you're at. Okay. He's not interested in locations. Are you in a physical place? Holy shit, people. Yes. Yes, you are in a physical place.

Where is this physical place? Chez Piqua. No. It's an S. S. T. T. J. J. No It's a S S T T J J

That's not a word Why that Oh my god This is A A Oh my god People are saying

This is Oh fuck M The spirits are rowdy tonight St. Jam E St. James St. James S Little St. Jam? E? St. Jame?

St. Jame? S. Little St. James. The island. The Jeffrey Epstein Island. So you're on... He's home. He's home. Jeffrey?

Why do just four letters are way easier than that many? Jeffrey, are you dead? Oh, fuck. He's not even dead. He's not even dead. It wasn't homicide jeffrey jeffrey

jeffrey stay with us jeffrey how are you communicating with us through the ouija if you're alive this is amazing folks jeffrey jeffrey if you are if you're alive Amazing, folks. Jeffrey. Jeffrey.

If you are, if you're alive, give us, oh, shit. Why can't we ask Jeffrey Epstein? Wait, since we have a liaison with him. Who's going to win the 2020 election? Who's going to win the 2020 election, Jeffrey Epstein? Since you know and you've pre-financed it. How many

elections do you think he financed in his death? If it's suicide, you don't get your insurance, right? You can't get an insurance payment. Life insurance. Life insurance of suicide. I don't think you can jeffrey

uh give us give us the death date of of vice president and senator joe biden oh oh shit oh fuck it looks like a hundred transcribe this five five four four two two oh shit one one may 4th 2021 2021. 20. See, I read that as May 4th, 2021. So I think he's going to live for at least another 100 years. That's how I interpret that. Mr. Ouija.

Excuse me, Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, I don't know. What else can we ask him? If you're not dead, whose body was that? Oh. Okay. Okay. Let's see. Where's it going, Tonya?

What's going on? Is that a K? K. K. I. I. M. M.

How did you know it was going to an M, too? K. K. Okay.? K. K. Okay. Kim K. A. A. Holy shit.

R. Oh my god. D. A. Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian's body was...

Holy shit. Amazing. Jeff. Jeffrey. I always knew you had a fat ass, but Jesus, man. Jeffrey Epstein, what's your thoughts on Jesus is King? This would be crazy if that planchette just flew off. Good.

That fire at this point. It's good. He said it's good. He went to good right there. Emphatically good, huh? Wow. He liked it. Okay, He went to good. Emphatically good, huh? Wow. He liked it. Okay, last question, Jeffrey Epstein.

Come on, Tonya. Will you donate to our Patreon? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Hell yeah. Yes. Amazing. Yes, thanks, Jeff. We think you're reprehensible and vile, but ain't no money clean money.

All money's dirty money. That's right. And we'll take every penny of yours, so don't you rotten hell. Go to the Patreon, everybody, and absolve your soul. P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com slash Trailbilly Workers Party. I've got a charge I've got to beat now. Yeah, so please. Literally, every little bit helps.

There you can hear in great detail about my trip to Salem, Massachusetts. That's right. Including my trip to the world's only Ouija board museum. Damn. Yes, check that out. Just moments before I arrived arrived they set a world record really what was it ouija zilla they created the world's largest ouija board i gotta say and you know oh my god did you just see that thing move i swear that thing moved just

now oh what were you gonna say tom i Tom? I got to say. Pretty interesting that they created such a sensation with this thing when it's like doesn't work. They had boards in 50 languages. Well. Okay. So the Ouija board was created in 1916. And. 1897 by Dan Zinger.

Who's keeping track? Carry on. Oh my God, it's the worst episode. Both of you just dick flexing your nuts over who knows more about the Ouija board. You're right. The Fold Company version that we see today was created. Carry on They were mass produced Out of Salem, Massachusetts Because that's where Parker Brothers was headquartered

I see I see Was that like planned? No I don't think so That's an interesting coincidence Salem did not become this like witch capital Was that planned? No, I don't think so. Planned? That's an interesting coincidence. Salem did not become this witch capital until the 70s, 60s, 70s. Yeah.

They didn't really start tapping into their... Well, it's like this was around the time of when people... Actually, a lot of people had Ouija boards in their home because no one had anything to do. Yeah, the Ouija board was on the cover of the Saturday Evening Post. Norman Rockwell painted it.

Yeah, it was like. Painted like kids just like playing it like it was a Christmas scene. Yeah, I mean, it's a beautiful board. It's because you can learn a lot from your ancestors.

You can learn a lot from your predecessors. And there was like a whole spiritual wave happening at the time, you know. Let's talk to Marquis de Sade. Yeah. We should have been more inventive. Jeffrey Ep Let's talk to Marquis de Sade. Yeah. We should have been more inventive.

Jeffrey Epstein's a waste, particularly because he's not dead. Which he told us through the spirit realm that he has not entered yet. It's crazy what him and Steven Pinker are doing. Yeah. Let's talk to de Sade. I gotta go. I gotta eat. I haven't eaten a meal today.

Yeah, I gotta drive back to Lexington. Boring. Happy Halloween everybody. Hit the Patreon. Hit the Patreon. Thanks for listening. Don't smoke weed anymore. Happy Salad. I mean, smoke all you want.

But me personally, this is the burden I must carry. This is the journey I must go on. I had a tarot reader in Salem tell me that I was using my cards incorrectly. Thank God I drew the death card. I took it very personally. I've been very upset about it ever since. Really?

What did she say? Or he said? What did they say? She said, what's the deck called? What's the deck called? Fuck her. This has shattered you. What's the deck called that I call? What's the debt call? This has shattered you. What's the debt call that I picked?

It's not even about my debt. She says that people shouldn't read their own tarot. Like you can't be objective enough to read your own tarot cards. What do you feel about that? How can you get enough practice with a tool without using it your fucking self? Well, here's what I say.

Does it make any sense? That's what people say when... They're selling you a good. Exactly. A service. I know. That's what every prophet says. Well, I'll just say capitalism crawled right up my ass and ruined about four hours of my

vacation, okay? That's what Joseph Smith said. Did you bring your deck in and she said... No, I didn't take my own deck in the only thing you can tell those cards is a coincidence she asked me what i wanted out of my reading i was like well i really would love to you know learn um i would like to i've never had my cards read professionally before and i would really like to know more about how to get the most out of my own tarot readings she was was like. Your own tarot readings?

What are you, a Philistine? Yeah, basically. That's what she said. Did you have, did y'all have the satanic panic of the 90s where people would go to fortune tellers in Eastern Kentucky and those people were like sort of like social pariahs at that point? Yeah. No, I didn't live here. My Aunt Sheila was in hock to fortune tellers. Like she would owe them money and stuff. prize at that point. I didn't live here.

My Aunt Sheila was in hock to fortune tellers. She would owe them money. I love that. To Gail. That's hilarious. You bring that up. One of the best things we did in Salem was go to the Satanic Temple. It rolled. It was awesome.

We honestly all had a very spiritual experience there. We loved it. There honestly all had a very spiritual experience there. We loved it. There wasn't even a black mass happening. But it's a Tuesday. It's an art gallery. And they had like six Salvador Dali's in there.

Damn. Dali was Satanist. Yeah. Was he? Well, you know, all the surreal. It creates an atmosphere. What looks satanist though they're all very they were all reckoning a lot with demons and shit you know yeah um interesting but um i thought that i was going to see like a replica of that baphomet that like iconic baphomet um statue but it's it was the one it's not every it's the one

it's just traveled so are you a satanist or a neo-paganist no i'm not a satanist mostly because satanism really say the satanic temple is essentially like the cooler weed smoking version of the aclu it's basically like they just sue libertarians if you're like kind of weird they just they just sue people to try to like they raise money for lawsuits for separation of church and state. That's the bulk of what they do. They were way cooler in the 70s. Yeah.

Anyway... I'd have to say I'm more of a neo-pagan. Interesting. Well, I'm a good Christian boy who doesn't do drugs. Yeah. I'm with you. Tell that to the judge literally in Pike County where you're facing eight charges steve owens the mayor said to hire steve i'm going to tell the judge that now judge i'm reformed i've changed i've served my time

in my head right between my ears i've served 33 years i've served hard time right here judge you don't know what I've seen. You might have heard that I talked to Jeffrey Epstein on a Ouija board the other night. False. Didn't happen. Never happened. Didn't happen. All right.

We got to close this one. I got to eat. Good night, folks. See you guys. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. All right. Bye.