Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 126: Tom Takes A Stand

Episode Date: December 12, 2019

This week we dig into the absurdity of private insurance and Mayor Pete's weird relationship with the insurance companies; we talk about Matt Bevin's last week in office; and Tom tells us about his Profiles in Courage moment at the local dog park. Episode art from Means TV. Please support them!!! https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/lets-build-means-tv Support us on Patreon where you can hear the next installment of the Trillbillies: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Yeah, when Michelle just dropped me off because she was going to band practice she was like, thanks for the pot pie because we both got a pot pie. I said, thanks for bringing me to work. Clocking in. I'm tangled up here. You said that.

Got that right. Oh, fuck. God damn it. This fucking knot. Oh, God. Are we recording this? Terrence's inevitable breakdown comes because of bad cord management in the studio. I love when it's cold enough to have the fire going in here. All right.

Looks great. The fire goes on at all times, even in July. I keep that fire on I um You got free gas up here or something? Yeah it comes straight from the well Right from the tap Nice

Tapped right in To the rock Yeah it does Haven't you learned anything from the Sobering FDA reports on that? Which ones? It's hard to sober up a sober man vaping oh this not my fireplace not your fireplace your vape no there's no sobering fda reports about the fireplace at least not since 1932 tom this is a cookie factory he has to vape that weed so that i can cook it oh So that I can turn it into butter.

It's just part of the assembly line. Yeah, the process. You're getting green lungs so Tanya can... It's the capitalism. Killing people with those oil cartridges. They had vitamin E acetate in them. A lot of people are saying vaping's not good

for you, period. I'm just giving you the information. Like Trump. The older we get, the more I'm just giving you the information. Like Trump. Tom, the older we get, the more and more you turn into a buzzkill. I can't do any drugs anymore around you without, oh, that'll give you this. That'll give you that. Listen, man. Tom is number one. A Bernie supporting Pentecostal school teaching son.

But number two, a hypochondriac. That's almost his premier identity. You cannot come for him over his. Put a tap on it. Listen. Nobody likes a buzzkill hypochondriac, man. I don't care what you do. I'm just giving you the information to make informed decisions.

That's it. Gotcha. Speaking truth to power is all you're doing. That's all I'm doing. Truly, some of those liberal habits are hard to kill. Like what? Like trying to give people information so that they make the right decision. Calling you a liberal. being an information guy that's my go-to cut for all my friends when they piss me off like oh you're a good democrat tom god he's sour today isn't he i think we should both go outside

and knock on the door and come in and start this whole thing over. I'm just looking out for his health. He just almost cut the cords up with his teeth. I saw red in his eyes. I'm in a fine mood. I'm in a totally fine mood. No, just keep it going. It's good. Good content. Just keep it. Look, you're getting the real shit. The other day I was laughing

about, could you imagine our socially ass, socially awkward ass generation trying to enact a political purge? You know, like in the 60s and 70s Could you imagine our socially awkward-ass generation trying to enact a political purge? You know, like in the 60s and 70s, people were all the time fucking purging one another from their movements, and there'd be splinter groups and split-off groups

and stuff like that. Now we're so awkward, we can't even fucking argue to each other's faces, and when we just get pissed off, we just leave the room or leave the group chat or something. Leave the group chat. something leave the group chat yeah like good you left yeah could you imagine our generation trying to enact a political purge like um so tom i've been noticing you've been posting a lot of cringe lately um you still do it you just do it by unfollowing and not inviting them to the next thing

and then it just keeps happening until they realize and then they find another cult to join. That's what the political purges look like now. Yeah. Yeah. You soft block them. Yeah. Unfollowing soft block. This year, mine's going to be a very strategic Christmas card delivery.

Or not. You're either getting a Christmas card or. Or not. You're either getting a Christmas card or you're not. You're tracking some people off the list. Yes. Say more about that. What do you mean? No, I'm literally joking. I did.

We did make Christmas cards and I ordered them and I'm excited. We designed our own collage Christmas card. So you designed them first and then ordered them. Well, yeah, we had to make the design. Michelle drew an image. I put it on a background, like a fabric, like a real fabric background, not like in the computer. And then I cut out little letters and stuff and like made it a whole little thing. And then I took a nice picture of it and I uploaded the image and I'm having them printed.

That's pretty cool. Remember like in the 90s when your aunt would send you like a email card? An e-invite? An e-card. An e-Christmas card. I feel like I may have gotten two of those in my whole life. I got them all the time because my aunt was a cheap ass. My aunt never fucking bought us christmas gifts ever and now that i'm older she's

like tries to be buddy buddy with me like friendly and stuff i'm like no no have you ever bought her a christmas present no but i don't have to i'm 40 years younger than her that's true we draw names on my mom my mom's side of the family is really the only side that counts at this point. But we drew names. So all the kids got at Thanksgiving, got to draw a name out of the hat. So however many kids you had,

that's how many presents you had to buy. And then all the kids at Christmas got one gift. That's a smart way to do it. Yeah. I made it very fair. And then when my mom was having a hard year she'd say just put me in it yeah just throw me in there too then so she'd buy one present and she'd get one present that's that's that's good she could admit that yeah she said just put me my mom or grandma they would just

like overextend themselves to like yeah you know, it'd be really bad. Yeah, that's funny. My Aunt Sheila actually cleans Terrence's houses. She used to. Houses, his many homes. Her house. She used to get me a bottle of Jovan Musk every year for Christmas. You know what I mean? So gross.

She was the manager of Dollar General up at May King for the longest time. That's my dollar store. I love it. She'd get us first dibs on our version of high karate or drag card and aware or whatever it was. High karate. Oh, Lord. Ants are a wild card when it comes to gifts. I've never had a single one give a good gift.

Yeah. Ants are notoriously bad gift givers. Uncles, too. Yeah. Because they feel like they can't get you anything too good. I mean, it is like, it's someone you have to give a gift to because your brother had sex with somebody. That's true. That's somebody. That's true.

That's it. It's like an extra entry on your asset or your account ledger. The tie that binds is my dad's brother had sex with this person. Right, right, right.

Well, from their perspective, I mean like, it sucks that you have to spend more money. My dad's sister had sex with this guy. I think this has been fairly true for me, but I'm breaking the cycle. I'm a great gift-giving aunt. Really? Yes, I'm an auntie to many children. Some of them not, you know, not really related to me.

Interesting. But I serve as an auntie To many children who need a good gay aunt And I'm a great one I've bought like Six gifts No I bought like 20 kids gifts this Christmas And I only have two actual nephews

That's where the true ability is Back to the kids Your Patreon money is going to kids gifts. See, you can do that, but if you're a male, that's a little weird. As Tom says, that's how you get a reputation. It's mostly books. It's almost all books,

except for my nephews. I buy them stuff all year long and then just give them things all year long and then at the end of the year I give them all the things I hadn't gave them yet from the things I bought all year. That's smart yeah and i've made a lot of gifts this year trying to be more creative yeah spend less money and just be in stores less and online less i don't know it's just fucking weird time of year man man. People have this craze looking their eye, even at the grocery store. Terrence is railing against it.

I hate it. I went into the grocery store yesterday, and they were giving snow last night. So maybe it wasn't just because of the Christmas craze, but maybe it was the weather too. But there were like four grocery store employees standing in the doorway of the grocery store it was raining and it was cold chain smoking i had to walk i had to like navigate through a couple people and a cloud of smoke to get into the grocery store yesterday i was just like whoo it's really a time of year. Well, yeah, because everyone's overworked. Yeah, just panic.

That's the thing. I genuinely think people say that December is a month you don't get anything done, but honestly, it is such a goddamn stressful month. You gotta buy presents. It's cold. It's cold. Yeah. You gotta do all this while it's cold as fuck.

Right. If you're like me, you gotta sign up for while it's cold as fuck right you gotta if you're like me you gotta sign up for fucking health care before december 15th yeah same i know i've went through all the steps but i just don't i'm afraid to click the last thing to commit i did today did you do it today i think i'm gonna do it tomorrow look yeah let's let's talk about this you committed to a plan i committed to a plan send me a screenshot of what you got because i'm just like i don't fucking know what to do i'm so goddamn salty about this um because this comes at the time where this p budaj stuff is

going on with with it's come out that when he was at McKinsey, they were consulting with Blue Cross Blue Shield and the U.S. Postal Service and some Canadian grocery chain called Loblaw or something. It's an odd mix of five. He's got a pile of bodies everywhere he goes. The guy is an impish little sociopath don't you think that's most people who come home from war and go on to be successful

yeah but he didn't have to go to war no he went and held a gun in the desert and took a picture with it no he didn't actually do anything he was doing economic development in Afghanistan for McKenzie. Wait, that's what his service was? Yes. He was like a contract cowboy? He was a butcher. He probably didn't do the butch and just guess on how he held that gun. But he was a hatchet man. Yeah.

And everywhere he goes, there's a pile of bodies. Whether it's the Postal Service or Blue Cross Blue Shield, there have been just people laid off in the wake of him. Mayo Pete shows up, jobs are lost. That's done. I mean, really, he's like the Grim Reaper for jobs. Well, yeah, well, he can't win here. There's a man who says he loves jobs.

There's a man who says he loves jobs. There's a man who says he loves jobs. He's going to create all these jobs, but nothing suggests he does. It looks like the opposite, actually. That's what they need to be hitting him on.

Yeah. That's what they need to be hitting him on. Yeah, you say you're a jobs guy. Do you see the weird thing where he tried to flip it around on Bernie

and I guess Warren and some others that support him for it? Yeah, I did see that. He's like, well, actually, others in the Democratic party what their rhetoric is going to cost everybody that works in the insurance industry a job which is actually kind of savvy political move on his part uh-huh i'll say savvy let me walk it back a little bit

it's like a good jab you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah but it's also like i guess you're still selling life insurance. You would have a job. Fuck insurance. Fuck advertising. These are fields that should not exist. These are like money pits. Let's talk about this.

Let's get in the weeds with this because it kind of mirrors the coal thing with global warming. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not hard. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's a hard, it's like, it's not hard. I mean, I'm an M4A supporter, but it's like, what do we do with people that are like, I mean, you know.

Here's the thing. There's a lot of jackals in insurance. It's interesting you brought that up, though, because I think, comparatively, if you ask the entire healthcare industry tomorrow, I think most people would be totally fine. Would be totally fine. That's my insurance.

Yeah. The insurance. And honestly, with M4A, like, I would, you, I'd be, it'd be hard to convince me that whatever we lose in insurance, bullshit insurance jobs wouldn't be picked up in the fucking actual servicing medical field for people who are going to be actually getting care all of a sudden yeah yeah i agree with you i'm teeing it up you know you just looked at me like i was i was i was carrying water from my feet up i'm sorry dude people have been killing me with this shit i'll stand down think that our stances on here are like really firm and concrete and that we like are arguing about it but literally we agree most 95 of the time and also it's like our our ideas are genuinely

not firm and concrete they're constantly fucking changing, we're not a cult, turns out. So we do disagree occasionally. The last interview we did, she said, do y'all agree on everything? Yes, we are a sex cult. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, we are. That is going to be the audio clip that gets used.

Yes, we are a sex cult. It's going to be the audio clip that gets used. Yes, we are sex cults. It's going to be the audio clip that gets me one time. Oh, did you say that? I just said it to joke about how we should have answered the woman who asked us if we always agree on everything. Oh. I thought you said that on that interview. No, she said it to her representative who was, again, once again, proving that this will be the second representative in a row that has harassed you rather than the other way around and they're in the same office that's true yeah

in the same position coming for me now i was talking about the news lady though the news anchor just getting punked by your representatives all the time by your state reps i get dunked on by people all the time and it usually is for something you two have done honestly oh come on don't try me today i'm out here i'm out here terrence never leaves the house you've moved moved to Lexington and I'm out here in the streets taking all the feedback. Oh my god. Jesus Christ.

Climb down off the cross, asshole. We need the wood. Not here, we're burning fucking natural gas in here, buddy. That's straight from the pipe. Okay, but on this insurance thing, I cannot find a plan with less than a $7,500 deductible and less than a $250 premium. The only reason I enrolled in a plan was because I managed to just squeak by with a tax credit that got my premium down to about 80 dollars i thank a

liberal buddy yeah me too so i have based on what i have projected that i will make i have a tax credit too or whatever but it's possible that we will end up making more than what we've predicted uh-huh yeah and then we're gonna have to oh we're gonna owe that we're gonna owe that if i get to the end of next year and i have already spent so because then if you like dig down in the weeds of this is the healthcare.gov open enrollment whatever yeah if you get down into the weeds and like keep clicking it'll say like would you like us to estimate your annual like what you'll end up spending and it's unbelievable i don't i don't shouldn't we be healthier than this at this age so between estimated uh like the monthly premium the monthly cost of the plan plus estimated like

how often you would go to the doctor so it's like at least for i have to have at least a pap smear you know there's like i have to at least get a fucking inhaler there are a few things i know no matter what healthy as a horse i've got to do like in a year's time and even they estimate higher than that and i have to have allergy medicine there's just like some things you got all kinds of fucking you need a lot of inhalers i'm kept alive by modern medicine at this point he's on a drip in here there's an iron lung upstairs and so i'm the estimate was over like six grand and i was just like how fuck me up and none of that stuff is like anything weird you know what i mean not like you have to have you're managing a chronic condition i don't have any chronic illnesses that i know of

i do have lower back problems but i usually just treat that with sorriness yeah treat that with weed and whiskey but what i don't understand there's honestly naps there's no fucking point to getting a health care plan with a deductible at 7500 unless you have 7500 you can just pull out on a finger i do not have that in the bank right now across three accounts i do not well look 100 do not have 7500 in the bank i want to divest i just want to dissect that for a minute that means if you you have a plan, if you have a deductible, $7,500 deductible, that means It does not even kick in until you spend $7,500. That means that you have to be so lucky. Like gambling is, I mean, insurance is like gambling.

It's basically like, I don't know, get sick that often. I guess I'll take the chance. I don't know, get sick that often, I guess I'll take the chance. It's so weird that insurance is like this hedge against the future, but you have to gamble with your own money and your own life. Let me tell you something that I heard Bill Clinton say

in the flesh one day. Remember when the ACA, the whole conversation around enacting all that was going out and people were saying, no, Republicans were saying this is unconstitutional. So you were working for the Clinton Foundation during the Obama years. Yeah. That's a real special time to be under a Clinton wing. Well, Clinton was shilling for it and he was like, there were merchant seamen.

And then everybody's like, seamen. That had to get like, they were forced by the government to get their cargo and everything insured. I don't know, that was his precedent that he'd set for the legality. That was like, this is how liberals combat the Republicans with historical precedents. Merchant seammen in 17- A word. Yeah, a story about semen.

Was it the Commerce Clause? It might have been. I don't know. Anyway. I could tell you all about the Commerce Clause. Article 3, Section 8, Clause 12, 13. That was big in 2012. It was.

Commerce Clause was on the tip of everybody's tongue along with the words along with the words Robert's Court oh my god anyways I'm sorry didn't mean to cut you off

anyway that's all I had but but what that's what he said that's all he had to say about ICI that was it something about

merchant semen that would have been crazy work in there though because they were they hate didn't they hate obama i hated it clinton's hate it i hated obama yeah very racist people yeah i'm extremely racist uh just normal americans really but no yeah no that has a different level you think it's a click click more well they have more power than most people. Go ahead, sir. Well, I just do want to talk more about our plan here.

And I think this is bound to be helpful to at least some fucking body. But I have wondered if there might be some special Kentucky, new Kentucky stuff happening in the new year because Brashear's in office. Tanya's got a little steve sure nostalgia tanya's won't connect to come back you don't you think that's stupid no we're not good what he's doing he lifted the medicaid waiver so if you qualify for medicaid that might impact you the most he could do is reenact the the marketplace the connects thing that would just be more options probably yeah but right now you get anthem care source is what i got got care how much source bro dude don't get sick man god damn care source care source bro i got fucking care and you're gonna

pay 80 bucks a month for it yeah 80 a month for care source insurance that's all i can afford i'm sorry damn that's dark the cheapest anthem plan is about 200 with the tax credit or about 150 with the tax credit well this is the thing that blows my mind about insurance is that they're selling individual products right every plan is a product and they're selling it and they're tailored to specific people's lifestyles and income brackets and so the cynicism built into it just from the point of service immediately as soon as you go to it just slaps you in the face and it's incredible to me that the democrats totally like they're so out of touch they just didn't occur to them at all when creating the aca like they still fundamentally don't understand that the whole process of going and groveling for health care and barely being able to afford it

ruining your life is a slap in the face regardless of whether or not there's some well you've said it government you've said that's just like electoral politics it's just like jobs right the fact we have to have jobs is still a slap in the face like the fact we're out here pining for all these jobs fact we're pining for health insurance which is the origins of are not much different from fucking numbers running or yeah any other sort of illicit mob activity really i swear to god it is oh you're right i tried today i tried to make an appointment for a pap smear before the end of the year so before my insurance my current insurance runs out at the end of the year and i'm like okay i'm gonna make a disappointment i'm like what all can i fucking do before december 31 to just like do as much as i can because i don't know it's just unclear to me what's going to be possible in the new year

with this new plan if i get it or not your care source plan yeah with my new fucking care source my uh health care theater i'm about to pay a lot of money for that is the interesting thing is it's so patently tilted in favor of of the health industry it's just like i ran a book in college sports book in college and i know that when i put the juice out there okay and when i set my lines i'm doing this so I'll have the advantage every time. Every time. Every time. In a vacuum, you cannot beat me. Like, if you keep playing every day, I'm eventually going to take you for everything you have.

And it is the same in the health insurance industry. That's crazy. Oh, it is. Well, I didn't get to finish my health care story today. They couldn't tell me, my doctor's office, which i've been going to for seven years the same place they couldn't tell me if my insurance if it was time yet for my insurance to agree to pay for my pap smear because they just were bought out by fucking arh and right now she said quote we don't have access to our previous files at this time she said the only thing i have on file is your last appointment in September,

which was about something totally different. And I was just like, wow, that might be an interesting detail to know if you show up in the emergency room. Yeah. So you don't have access to my last seven years of medical records currently. She was like, we're working on retrieving them. What the fuck does that mean they ran off in the woods with mayor paint and this is a woman in downtown

weinsberg this wasn't like a call center yeah and i was like can you just get in touch with my insurance please and tell me if it's time like can you and she's like okay let me see if one of the nurses can do that because i said that's what they've done in the past they've told me like they have contacted the insurance company because they do all the time these people know exactly how to do this this is their literal jobs and then she called me back and she was like no we can't you're gonna have to get a hold of your insurance yourself so now i'm gonna have to spend probably a whole day trying to get this fucking sorted out because they don't even have my medical records right now they couldn't even tell me when my last pap smear was. And I guess arguably maybe I should have wrote that down somewhere.

But God damn. Why the fuck? Well, let me just say this. There is literally a whole department, staff department, dedicated to something called medical records. Literally. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, I mean, it's good to be a good patient and keep up on your shit.

But if you're an otherwise healthy person not managing any chronic conditions, I mean, I don't blame you in your situation for not actually riding that day. Yeah, I'd be Brett Kavanaugh and go back through my fucking daily notes of everything I've ever done, check to see if I fucking got a pap smear or raped somebody in my, deep in my annuals. Yeah. God damn. in my annuals yeah god damn well the the funny thing about all this is that people to judge is now like the thing that a lot of these people keep saying is that um their defense now is that

health care jobs are going to be lost with medicare for all because we have to nationalize it and um there's just no way. I know. Basically, all you're doing is moving that workforce over to a government-run system, basically. And it's just no longer based on gambling, like you were saying earlier. It's just

no longer a mob run. There's someone here in a reflective... Again, we keep getting deliveries while we're here together. See if he wants to talk about the new Teamsters contract. There's someone here in a reflective. UPS package. Very nice. Again, we keep getting deliveries while we're here together. See if he wants to talk about the new Teamsters contract. Yeah. Thanks, man. Cute hat.

What'd you get? Christmas presents. For you or for someone else? For my brother. Nice. My baby bro. Did you get him a crumb of insurance? I got him one crumb.

Peace. Peace. Peace. For Christmas, ask all your relatives to pitch in $500 for your deductible. Just hold on to it. I don't need it right now. But I'll tap you for it. And just peace out $750.

$3,500. but here's the thing um so let's say you're trying to decide on a plan uh as you're saying earlier yeah your deductible is what you have to hit and i didn't even realize this until like maybe two weeks ago before they ever pay anything before they pay anything so you could go and snap your fucking arm in 18 different places and rack up like a 700 7495 medical bill no help you may tell you what's interesting about that though like no here's what's here's what's here's what's super fucking interesting about that. All those plans. The only people I know that have like, there's doctors that have like $10,000 and $20,000 deductibles. Doctors? Rich people have those plans.

The cheapest plans are the ones that rich people get. Because if you get sick, if you don't get sick, that's money in your pocket. If you do get sick, you can afford to spend $7, dollars ten thousand dollars on a deductible you know what i'm saying so if you're an otherwise healthy rich person yeah i'll just get the men plan that's like you know seven dollars a month but if you're a working person who you know is oftentimes doing chronic stress which leads to a lot of different other problems that and being out of work with because i'm trying to change my reputation as a health skull. But...

And a day off work could fuck up your whole life. Could fuck up your entire existence. Not just being sick, but time off work could impact a dozen people besides you. You're coming out with $500, $600, $700, $800, sometimes $1,200 in a month, that kind of shit. Or lose your fucking job.

Yeah. You know what's so crazy and terrence brought this up on that video we did for means about the company towns but i've been thinking about this a little bit it's like that's always the bargaining chip for companies to keep you in a job is to dangle that insurance oh yeah in front of you like a carrot to a horse my current job trying to leave that's what they did my harass like Yeah, they throw that like, hey, you'll be out. Manipulation via healthcare. Right, yeah. And which is sadistic on its face. Oh my God. But two,

oftentimes that insurance really isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Like I was talking, when my brother-in-law got laid off from, um, forget the mines he worked at before his nude. Maybe it was Revelation. I'm not sure. Wherever it was. Uh, Cumberland River. They were like, yeah, I just i just i'm like why don't you all just like why don't you try something else you know because this is when like all these layoffs were happening and i was like you know

this non-profit sector a lot of them would jump at the chance to have you know a former minor that's out here you know being a mouthpiece for some of this stuff like why don't you look into that man i just i can't because of the insurance and then i talked to my sister and she'd be like yeah our deductible is eight thousand dollars jesus christ and i was like why that's what's keeping you around eight thousand dollar deductible you know what i'm saying which i understand i'm not trying to trivialize that because you know you got family and stuff but well it ain't good it It ain't good coverage. What you were saying earlier almost seems counterintuitive,

but you're right. Rich people have lower deductibles. They pay less taxes. This is why they're rich because everything in life that costs us money, well, it's not only that, but everything in life

that costs us money to live, they need to keep us subordinate. They get off cheap on it, so they pay fewer less taxes they pay lower deductibles and everything they don't you know they don't have car notes they don't have house notes because they can afford to pay in cash or whatever yeah the video where they were talking they were telling english people british people about our health care did y'all see that oh and they just can't believe that like an ambulance rides like nine thousand

bucks that's about to say when you said when you were talking about how they're worried about losing all these medical jobs. What I will never understand is how we let these people lie to us for so long when we can literally Google the reality in fucking 100 other countries. This has done well in hundreds of other countries, or I don't know how many. Lots of other countries or i don't know how many lots of other countries i don't know how many plenty there i mean it's

clearly this isn't an imagined like we're just trying to create something that's never existed before there are so many things they just like fucking completely just lie to us for our for generations mostly using jobs as fear we'll lose all these jobs you won't be able to afford you'll wait you'll wait 10 years for knee surgery this is crazy shit when you can literally see when we have american doctors going to canada for routine procedures going to Canada to have his ribs removed. Yeah. That's what I was talking about, exactly. Well, yeah, I think that if you're talking about, Paul, a political cell, I'm just continually amazed that people continue to run on anything to the right of Medicare for All. It's insane.

And have the fucking balls to tell rachel maddow they don't understand they just they're completely unaware that like we can read people hate their insurance look okay i'll say i'll say this matt jones when he came on here he had he had he had one good point which is that i don't know what you're saying i don't think it was a good point is that unions do not support not now i'll say all unions but a great deal of unions do not support medicare for all and he the reason why is exactly why he said because they fought for their medic medical benefits and their health care they like their benefits package because they fought for it that's what he said they're invested in it not because it's a great plan necessarily i mean a

lot of unions do have really good health coverage but not all of them yeah yeah and they're not i mean there's what do you think that explains why like wfp supported warren or something like that because there's like room to keep private insurance in there or something but i honestly you know what i don't think it's necessary necessarily they have great insurance it's because they like fought so hard for it they're so invested in it and it's this idea that if people have a bigger piece of pie their pie is less it's that idea you think that's it i think that's definitely some of it i think it's also because their plans are good. There aren't that many good plans. Like in a percentage, like there's so few. Even when I worked for KFDC, which we had for our insurance company,

which was like a huge national insurance company, we had what they called the Cadillac plan. And we were grandfathered in. They didn't even offer it anymore. And it still had a high deductible. And I was still turned away from the doctor i wanted to go to do you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah but you think that like if you're aren't they these are like they don't exist perfect these like terrific amazing plans don't fucking yeah i see what you're

saying i see what you're saying but some plans are stronger than others sure of course yeah i think that it regardless they're i know i agree uh i don't even know the point i was trying to make i guess it's just that that those are the only people i know of that actually do like their their health care those are the only people yeah i know but the vast majority of people don't yeah but i still think it's sort of like i fought hard for my insurance and you'll not take it from my cold dead hands i think it's that kind of shit it's not necessary it's a mix i'm sure but it's some of it but you know when you i mean i think that's just some of though the some of the aftermath of union organizing is like it is so hard that it's so challenging to fight against the the like capital capitalist labor

system and to try to organize in labor it's so difficult that those are some of the aftermath that people are like bitter and are like hanging with a death grip onto what they earned what they won yeah you know even when it's not that great right it was a small step in a big scheme in like the big broad yeah no that's right well I don't know it doesn't seem like very hard still though to get people to

no I remember when the ACA marketplace opened up and they had their plans color coded like they were like Olympiclympic medals oh yeah and i instantly was like yeah i'm a bronze boy skip past platinum silver and gold let's see what what's in the bronze they still are i have a i was like you yeah i have a silver plan they tell me aristocrat when i went through the thing, it was like, you qualify for tax.

What do they call them? Like a tax credit. Yeah, tax credit for a silver plan. That's what they said. Your best deal will be with a silver plan. They were just selling it to me. They did that, and I was like, but what's the cheapest? Yeah, but it is still on healthcare.gov today.

It is gold, silver, yeah it's pretty dumb but um you have until sunday december 15th i don't know when this is coming out this might come out will have failed we failed you you couldn't get to the healthcare marketplace. No, we should put this out tomorrow. It's so topical. Yeah. So, Mayor Pete, before we pivot here, one other thing. What's the bread price fixing scheme? Oh, I think that was his other thing.

That's why the fucker fixed the price of bread. Bread in Canada. Not even in America. Not even in america yeah i don't know i don't know if there's anything else to be said about i'll just it's funny to see mayor pete's mask slipping like he's a total ghoul like foreign policy as like you know it's like one of these like just total sociopaths and it's funny to see mr high high hopes and the mask is slipping a little bit.

And you can see this little catty demon coming out. Stone cold, doesn't care about anything. But then he tries to readjust and put his High High Hopes mask back on. You know what I mean? It's just so funny to see just somebody so unlikable

and so just patently evil just floundering. Anyway, that's all I want to say about that. He's the Ha Ha Hopes guy. That's so funny. I wonder how many times he's heard that stupid fucking song. He won't do the dance.

He won't? No, they tried to ask him to. Tried to get him to. He wouldn't do it. Amazing. Which really goes to show you. He wouldn't do his own dance. He wouldn't do his own dance. Which really goes to show you. He wouldn't do his own dance. He wouldn't do his own dance.

All those stupid staffers. Let me just give you a piece of advice, folks. No matter what job you find yourself in, no matter what kind of team building environment you find yourself in, if your grand potentate won't do the dance, you shouldn't either. All right, well, we got a full bag of content here um at 40 minutes in at 40 minutes in oh

this is a merit this is a marathon and i have a game show for us to play yeah we have a we're gonna cut two episodes out of this so great item number two um paul volkler died I know how much that impacts both of you the only reason I bring this up is because I don't I'm always getting Paul Volker mixed up in my head with like Alan Greenspan Milton Friedman

Tim Geithner like I don't actually know Paul Volkler is like the 6'10 guy right he's like really tall guy like James Comey actually know paul voeckler's like the 610 guy right he's like really tall guy like james comey didn't james comey yeah i think paul voeckler was like a really tall guy that like what was his master stroke in the markets like he did something with inflation that all the billionaires love him yeah yeah he died a hero to like the money class well i always see his name in reference to inflation. He fought inflation.

I think he was like a Reagan guy. Okay. Sounds right. Warren thanked him and was like, we love you, Paul. Oh, wow. Liz Warren did? Yeah, yeah. You didn't see it?

Even more. She had a tweet that was like, I love you so much, Paul. I'm so sorry. I love you so much, Paul. I'm so sorry you died. I'm so sorry you're dead. No, it wasn't. I'm so sorry i love you so much paul i'm so sorry you died i'm so sorry you're dead no it wasn't so sorry you died at age 94 um healthy happy yeah it was like it was a really bizarre tweet um but it was bizarre because at first i like i said i'm always confusing him with like the bad other bad guys like bad people in our era now like at any other time in

history bad people were known for the obviously bad things they did like vlad the impaled people like you're you usually got a nickname ivan the terrible nero fiddled while Rome burned. Yeah. Hitler, well, you don't have to say anything about that. Some people just... Hitler's kind of like the Brazilian soccer player of bad guys. Like, you know how Brazilian soccer players just need one name? That's it. Yes, yes. He was like Ronaldinho.

Yeah. But anyways, nowadays, like the bad guys they're they're they're just like technocrats like you don't even know what the fuck they do they just manipulate markets and pull levers yeah because they can be the worst if no one knows who they are yeah exactly they can do the worst exactly well it's almost like too, they see which way the money's shifting, and they just go to where they can re-funnel it. And so they make up a new economic concept that allows them

to funnel more money from the poor and working classes. Right, like trickle-down economics. Or the derivatives market. Derivatives. You know what I'm saying? They're seasoned hedge fund guys that can't tell you a damn thing about how derivatives work yeah because it's fucking made up this is the same thing in philanthropy they have like

donor advised funds and it's just like very specific things that that's that's how you that's how you woke stolen money yeah yeah that's how they hide money away and refuse to release it it was a good thing that I saw it going around anyway I lost my thought what Tom?

I lost it it sounded good reel it back oh um shit hold that thought. One second. Well, anyways.

The Volker rule. Yeah. Didn't he have a Volker rule? Wasn't there something called the Volker rule? Google it, Tom. You got your computer out. Volker. It's another one of those things like you were saying earlier.

Like a thing to funnel more. Volker rule. Yeah. That's the number one most googled thing after volker dead volker dead the volker rule is a federal regulation that generally prohibits banks from conducting certain investment activities with their own accounts and limits their dealings with hedge funds and private equity funds also called covered funds oh okay so let's we can decipher this can we yeah um it refers to article 619 of the dodd frank wall street reform and consumer protection act the rule was originally proposed by american

economist and former u.s federal reserve chairman paul volcker to restrict the united states banks from making certain as you just, certain kinds of speculative investments that do not benefit their customers. Wasn't this have to do, didn't this have to do with like how they broke down? You're all the time hearing people like Warren say they broke down Glass-Steagall. Oh, they broke down Glass-Steagall.

Yeah. That's what resulted in the 2008. That's what caused the 2008 crash. They broke down Glass-Steagall. Like is Volcker Rule an attempt to put Glass-Steagall back up? Back to repair it. To repair it. Because Volcker, I don't know anything about these economics dudes.

Well, no, but these guys, like, I think that they have to, we're reverse engineering economics here, by the way. They have to, like, keep the wheels on the system. Right. Without it fully coming. It's managerial, system. Right. Without it fully coming. It's managerial. Right. Without it fully coming undone. And so after 2008, I think they had to put back this sort of barrier between speculative investment and what we and you do when we go to the bank.

Basically, I think that... Dude, I don't fucking know. These banks were taking people's money. You know how me and you, we go to the bank, we deposit our money into the bank? Mostly just take it out, but yeah. Mostly just take it out, right. But they would take the money that people had put into their banks

and then loan the money. That's what a bank does or something. But they were sinking all this money into speculative... Investments. Investments. And Paul came along, all 6 foot ten of him, and said, not on my watch, we're going to rebuild the Glass-Steagall. And we're going to stop that from happening.

Is he kind of like a neoliberal hero? Yes. Yeah, for sure. So he won't let banks invest in themselves, in their own shit. He's against bank self-care. Kind of disappointing, honestly. Even if banks are people, they need self-care, too, as well as voting rights and so forth. Yeah, if corporations are people, why don't they get to vote?

There's a question. I'd say they do. Right? With their money? They do the same thing we do every day when we go eat at Chick-fil- question. I'd say they do. Right? With their money? They do the same thing we do every day when we go eat at Chick-fil-A. They vote with their dollars.

Every day at Chick-fil-A. Every day you spend money you're going to the ballot box. That's right. That's very true. Let's see. Okay, what else do we got here? Alright, I had one more thing

on today's list of things to talk about and then we could take a break how's that sound how's that sound huh sounds good yeehaw how's this sound do you have donuts waiting for us in the break room i do not bastard i have my union right i have no such thing we were told we would have snacks. All right. Breakfast would be provided. This was sent to me from listener Drew Frog. Shout out to Drew. Hey, Drew. Who sends me a lot of our content these days.

Let's just put him on payroll. He's our manager. Our producer. This is pretty good. So as you all know, you've probably seen the headlines. Bevan is now out. And Andy Beshear is in. There's a new sheriff in town.

There's a new sheriff in town. I saw that he had never lived. He never lived in the mansion because he had all those kids somewhere. I don't know. Probably lived in a bigger house than what the state house is. Probably. But he'd done something in there that day so that he didn't turn the house over until like an hour before uh inauguration he's just sticking a shit in it yeah he's just to be extra petty he just like hold up in there just shitting and farting all

the way through the house just doing god knows what i had to uh he had a boudoir photo shoot in there. Four hours long. Jesus Christ. That'd be awesome. I had a couple of, I mean, I hate, I mean, boomers, such an overused phrase, but a couple of boomers that I go to the dog park with in the morning. We just reads them as we sees them. That's it. They, we were around in the turn,

and I guess my guy Steve incorrectly read my persuasion. Not that I'm a liberal or whatever, but he was like, can you believe what our new dumbass governor's done? The new one as in like, no-no? Yeah, like Andy Beshear.

I understand it, man. People make that mistake with me all the time. Yeah. Well, that's true because I think we give the Democrats so much hell that people think we're conservative. We don't have a liberal disposition. Right. Exactly. We don't have this earnest, naive...

We don't do the high hopes dance. We don't do the high hopes dance. Right. At least not in public. We're incredibly jaded. Right. Negative. We're negative.

We're just... Get out in front of it. We're incredibly jaded. Right. Negative. We're negative. We're just. We are. Get out in front of it. We're just negative. We're just negative people. Yeah. And we break down rather than build up. We tear down.

Oh, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Tear down. Usually, if it's something that, like, the Democrats are, like, also doing, I'll just be, like, try to make it like both sides. Like, yeah, they're all crooks, aren't they? You know, one of those kind of things. But today I let Steve have it.

We're around the corner. He's like, he has restored voting rights for a hundred thousand felons. I said, Steve, let me tell you something. I said, if you go to prison for ten years for some, usually it's a soft fucking drug crime or some victim was crime but whatever what even even if it's the worst thing in the world if you fucking

and not even like i don't even believe in all that kind of shit but like particularly if you've spent 20 years in a fucking eight by eight and you get out like you mean to tell me that your ass gets to make all my decisions for me from this point on because i was a bad bad bad boy once upon a time i ripped that to you but he goes he goes and then i said well i said like you know i guess if you look at that as voter disenfranchisement i said i what do you call uh putting up one voting machine in a black neighborhood when there should be fucking 50 of them? And creating these lines out the door to make people leave.

He's like, I don't know about that. And we just shut up about it. And he started talking about his Epiphone Dot that he's trying to refurbish. Epiphone Dot? Yeah. Where was this at? The dog park. The dog park.

Cute. Tom took a stand at the dog park. I didn't want... I hate doing that. Especially if it's like... I hate myself. Took a stand at the dog park. I just feel so stupid.

You know what I mean? Yeah, these are some of those times where you just like watch yourself. I literally am watching myself do this thinking, God damn it, just shut the fuck up. But it just struck a nerve at somebody that's like mad about some guy coming home and he doesn't which you know like we know voting

doesn't avail anything anyway but like again it's like it's the people fought for that it's you know what i'm saying yeah and it's the goddamn people died for that yeah civil rights movement people got mauled by dogs for that like like, shut the fuck up, dude. And that's what he was complaining about? Yeah. He's like, and he didn't even say, like, pedophiles, murderers, or rapists. He's like, we got all these dopeheads going to be. And then his wife tried to do it and said, and they'll vote all for Democrats. He just said, yeah.

That's what we want. I was just like, man. Actually, it's not what we want. I was just like, man. Actually, it's not what we want. Shit, we did it too. It fell into the trap too. Although this decision of his, I mean, we could, obviously it was the bare minimum that he should have done because the last thing his spineless daddy did

was this very thing, knowing that it was going to be overturned the next fucking day. And sure enough, it was. So he did it on his first day in office. And you know, he called up his dad and had some teary-eyed fucking i did it dad i gotta make my legacy dad keeping the brashere legacy alive he did something his dad should have done a full four eight twelve years ago and his dad probably said something like you did good son times are changing and uh you did a good job people could have. And his dad probably said something like, you did good, son. The times are changing, and you did a good job. People could have been,

if his dad hadn't been such a spineless eel. Yeah, he did it on the way out the door. Like his last week, literally. And then Bevan overturned it his first week in office. So it was like. And he knew that was going to happen. He knew, he knew. He was such a fucking eel.

People could have been, this could have been people's reality for the last 12 years, and it should have been. Well, I fucked Steve's head up a fucking eel. People could have been, this could have been people's reality for the last 12 years, and it should have been. Well, I fucked Steve's head up a little bit. My parting act was, well, man, Trump's did some kind of crazy stuff on criminal justice reform, if you're mad about it. You know, like he's a big Trump guy, and I was pointing out.

That's true. You know how Trump's doing the Jared Kushner's little pet project thing? Kanye West stuff. Yeah. So I tried to use that. It didn't really go anywhere how do you so you've known this you've got to know this guy via the dog park yeah i mean i like them they're fun you know they're fun to talk to it's just he's the guy i was telling y'all he's got like a

he bought a leather jacket from gatlinburg that has all the armed forces like division logos on the back of it and then he said man it on the back it it. And then he said, man, on the back, it's fucking rote. God bless America. He goes, I said, it's fucking rote. He said, it's fucking rote, man. Wow. Terrence is falling apart over here. Sorry. He's made a vape mess. I'm sorry.

Did you drop a bunch of weed in the carpet? That's the biggest fucking party foul. No, I didn't. Is that hot? My favorite thing when you bought that was it said for potpourri or something. Yeah. They want people to be huffing potpourri.

Anyway, I'm sorry. Andy Beshear. Andy Beshear. Sorry. Our vape jumped off the table. So, as you know, Andy Beshear is now governor, but that means Bevan is out. And I kind of just wanted to go into what the scene looks like a week before Bevan was gone. And I want to go to a speech he gave in New Hampshire.

Let's see. At the Frankfurt Christian Academy about his faith and he said this is what he said why is the governor of Kentucky

giving speeches in New Hampshire I think that's where he's from where Bevan Bell's the Bevan Bell factory I believe is he gave this in the

ruins of the Bell factory well what he's doing is giving us some wisdom going forward for the blood and soil. Well, what he's doing is giving us some wisdom going forward for the blood and soil movement. That's what he's doing. That's exactly right. Bevan, who leaves office next week, this was written on December 2nd, so a week ago.

Bevan, who leaves office next week, told the crowd that he studied at a small Christian school in New Hampshire for nine years, and that the opportunity set the foundation of his religious values. He said that having a strong belief in Christ helped him stand strong when his faith was tested. As you all know, Brittany Bevan, the oldest daughter of Bevan and his wife died in a 2003

car accident at age 17. I knew that. Did y'all know that? I didn't know that. One and his wife died in a 2003 car accident at age 17. I knew that. Did y'all know that? I didn't know that. One of his kids died. Yeah. But this is the story he tells. I'm sorry.

What I was really getting to was this amazing story that he tells of himself standing up. He could have withheld that detail until after we shit all over. Sorry. Yeah, come on. We've just blunted the reaction by 15 percent no just keep sharpening your swords i'm sorry i'm guessing as people of faith you hope that your faith will sustain you when times are tough you pray that it will you believe that it will but you don't really know until you have nothing but your faith. The governor also recalled a time that an unnamed sociology professor at Washington and Lee University talked about the religion of an indigenous group found in the Amazon rainforest in the middle of the 20th century.

Bevin graduated from Washington and Lee in 1989. But of course, in the discovery of them, this is what the professor is saying, but of course in the discovery of them this is what the professor is saying uh but of course in the discovery of them people learned about them and some of their beliefs and we were studying that and some of the things that they believed seemed a little bit to our mind a little preposterous and i won't bore you with all of it other than to say that somebody made a comment how can you believe that he said the professor then compared the situation to the beliefs and stories of christianity and quote began to mock christianity and made it sound like it's just kind of the same as like an indigenous religious belief bevin said he felt he had to respond so i raised my hand and i said

you know i find what you're saying to not only be a bad analogy but it's offensive in some respects and i said why the governor said that the professor then tried to mock him before moving on with the lesson it's interesting that we live in a world where everybody wants diversity unless it's your view of a diverse idea people want to include everyone except those who don't agree with them he said bevin said that some that many of the other students in the college class thanked him later for saying something. He ended his speech by talking about characteristics

that a person should have to be successful, no matter what situation they are in or path of life they are on. Humility, integrity, tenacity, and service. So, what do you think? Do you think this really happened? It's funny that Bevan was like

the 1980s version of the Kent State gun girl or the guy that like did the change my mind table or something. Right. It's like Bevan's up there

at Washington Lee. He's got a fucking, everybody's doing this like androgynous like, you know, synth pop golf look thing. Bevan's got a table up that says,

Depeche Mode is gay. Change my mind yeah do you think that really happened not a chance raise his hand and said that not only is it a bad analogy but it's offensive to christianity well he probably did because everybody had class with that person that always thought they were like they were contrarian like kind of a slightly conservative contrarian that is just like persuaded of their own intellectual superiority. And they're actually among the dumbest people in the class. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I mean, he clearly is very inspired by himself. Just looking at the man is terrifying, honestly. He just looks deranged. just looking at the man is terrifying honestly he just looks deranged he's walking around like itching to correct people all day long

yeah well I mean do you guys remember this in like 2014 I think it was or 2015 there was this meme going around the internet called Marine Todd Marine Todd yeah and it was about how this Marine guy oh yeah yeah yeah Marine Todd. Marine Todd. Yeah, and it was about how this Marine guy.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Marine Todd. Yeah, like the premise was that there was this atheistic professor that stands up in front of the class and sort of makes this very godless pronouncement. And Marine Todd is this patriot who stands up and challenges the professor to his belief. He was the first figure of this movement we see today right yeah i couldn't remember if marine todd was that guy or the

guy that railed elizabeth warren man that's what happened to that that guy a, a hero. A great PR team, that's what happened. Washed away. Well, Bevan's story sounds exactly like the Marine Todd meme. You know what I mean? Which is fascinating because Bevan kind of came directly out of the Tea Party thing. I mean, Bevan

100% was sharing Marine Todd memes in 2014. Well, what he's done is he's just inserted himself into the Marine Todd meme. Exactly. And he's trying to make it fresh and relevant for 2019 as his parting profiles and courage moment. He writes his own profile and courage.

Yeah. I guess technically I do that all the time i guess technically tom did that just a minute ago this is just tom at the dog park really do you think that really i'm not looking for any kind of pad on the back you think that really happened at the dog that's just the kind of guy I am. Not a chance. I don't know. Generally with a Tom story, I have to gauge how much of it's bullshit and how much of it's not. Well, y'all ain't yelling. It's like 62, 38,

something like that. Oh my God. You'd laugh at the true sound of that, Turner. I mean, it sounded truthful to me. I believed him when he told it.

That's really all that matters. That's the hallmark. You know? That's all that matters is that I believed him when he told it. Y really all that matters That's the hallmark You know That's all that matters Is that I believed him When he told it Y'all get mired in details Too much

But anyway Can't let the truth Stand in the way of a good tale Go ask Go ask Steve The owner of Journey At Dog Park in Lexington Wait he owns the dog park?

Did a man No he was on the board Did a man Challenge you In your core beliefs? In your core beliefs the other day. About 5'11". A little chunky. Cute, cute dog answers to Sally.

Come to think of it, yeah. I've actually been volunteering with my local felons rights. Organization. It changed my mind. Oh, fuck. Well, that's all I got for today. It just occurred to me that Bevan's also a Marine.

He's Marine Matt. Oh, he is a Marine. He's Marine Matt. Yeah. He is Marine Matt. I forgot about that. So this guy. Well,

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