Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 158: The Scab Couple

Episode Date: August 6, 2020

This week we cover Trump's Axios interview, a grifting social justice Instagram account, and a couple that just loves to scab on their fellow workers. Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Well, I'm here to report from the front lines of America's ongoing crisis. And I have to say that I think I'm probably one of very few Americans who watched all 37 minutes of the Trump-Axios interview. You watched the whole thing, not just the henpecked gotcha moments? Dude, I watched the whole thing. And the whole thing needs to be watched for you to fully appreciate the, um, just the insanity of it just the uh erratic sort of frenetic insanity of the whole thing because like trump is like a guy i mean you forget this because you know he gets lost in the press briefings and everything but he's like a guy at a party that you just really

things and everything but he's like a guy at a party that you just really are trying to lose the whole time or at work you know what i mean like a a guy who just won't shut the fuck up and um but in his mind thinks that he is profound you know what i mean like it's the thing because like everybody's talking about this interview like, oh, we finally got him. We finally displayed all of his lies and manipulations. How many times have they said that? Exactly. Just clamoring.

But if you watch it, if you watch it, you will see a human that, by his own metrics and standards, is succeeding. He's very proud of himself obviously like you know you'd have to be but like i feel like sort of compared to other presidents like george bush for example george bush knew the whole thing was a farce and that dick cheney was actually at the helm and that like he was just kind of like the stooge and he would go out there and sell it to the public. But Trump fully believes that he is doing a great job.

That he is just fucking knocking it out of the park. Oh yeah, you can tell that he is undaunted by any sort of criticisms or anything else. Well, the fact that he even did the interview, how many interviews like that does he do not many not many why he took this one it seems like a weird outlet for him to take to do like a one-on-one sit down yeah wasn't it axios has always been clinton network i think x no axios has always been pretty cozy with the Trump administration. Oh, I didn't know. It wasn't surprising that he took it with this outlet. It was surprising that they were so adversarial to him.

I feel like they kind of did a hill to her. I feel like they've been kind of friendly with him in the past. Yeah, I didn't know. For some reason, I thought, well, isn't Axios the one that puts on that conference that, like, there was that one maverick journalist that went up there and ruffled everybody's feathers? Maybe I dreamt this up, but for some reason I feel like they put on some sort of Bilderberg-esque conference where the world's power brokers and media personalities show up and discuss

ideas and so forth. I think you might be thinking of like the aspen ideals festival no that's one thing too but i think this is a different thing maybe i'm wrong though i can see that up front well regardless you have to watch the whole thing because you like I said you get a glimpse into the way that he thinks and it will start to drive you crazy because like everybody's saying like oh this guy Jonathan Swan is the guy who interviewed

him they're like he finally demonstrated the way that you expose Trump's lies you give him basic follow up questions yeah that's right that gets his weakness finally demonstrated the way that you expose trump's lies you give him basic follow-up questions yeah that's right like that's his weakness if you watch it trump literally his method is very fascinating because he knows when he's caught in a lie and when he can't really like get out of it and so what he does is he just barrels through the follow-up questions. He'll just ramble through them and dissemble like a motherfucker. Like, he'll just throw so many things at you at one time that you can't latch on to anything.

Yeah. In my mind, Trump had the interviewer rattled. But, again, I just saw the little bit of the clip. Yeah. Well, I can hear myself in one of you. Can you turn your headphones down, possibly, to prevent my having to spend three hours editing later? Gotcha.

There's some gems in here, though. I just love that he had printed papers with graphs on them. It was like handing the man papers. His prompts were timeless. Oh, they were, it was fucking incredible. I mean, look at this. Head here. He said right here.

We're number one. That's a good thing. It's a good thing, we're number one. That's a good thing. It's a good thing. We're number one. Right here, we're last, meaning first. No, yeah. On 150,000 dead, he said, it is what it is. Truly amazing stuff.

I mean, it's so macabre. I mean, the only reason I'm laughing is because of how macabre it is. And, again, if you were a person that was already sympathetic to Trump, if you watched this interview, you'd be like, the man's trying his hardest, okay? He's doing his best. Yeah, it didn't strike me as particularly

like, what liberals think is like, oh, we finally got him, it's just because they found a reporter that will be like, sort of confrontational with him. You know what I mean? That doesn't mean that he like, got him routed or anything. But also, the thing is too, is nobody wants to address that

oft-mentioned epistemological crisis none of this matters you could have jesse the body ventura calling him a broke dick motherfucker and and it wouldn't matter he still got his hordes of fans and everything uh 50 years ago i mean like 50 years ago An interview like this would have been damning You know what I mean It would have been catastrophic for a public official Like they would have had to You know it would be

They would have had to make some sort of mea culpa Or even resign or something Or you would have even rioting or something You know what I mean Like this is the example of Nero fiddling while rome burns like the quintessential for sure demonstration of it but now it just doesn't even matter goes into the ether a lot of americans probably won't even see it don't even know that it even happened give me the juicier bits from the from the longer interview that we didn't say well i think the best part the absolute funniest part in my opinion the part that got me absolutely rolling

was the interviewer asks him about galene maxwell and he's like the interviewer is like you wished her well like she's accused of child sex trafficking why would you wish a person like that well and he's like he's like i don't know her boyfriend just died i would wish anybody well whose boyfriend just died oh my god that's truly the best her boyfriend just died i'd wish anybody best her boyfriend just died her boyfriend just died I'd wish anybody well his boyfriend just died it's like what it has a certain

bit of logic to it she's grieving oh my god wait is he talking about Jeffrey Epstein's the boyfriend yes he's talking about Epstein all right Epstein just died actually what he said was he was either killed or committed suicide is what he said that

yeah he did he's and then he said i hope nothing like that happens to her which means it's like he absolutely has knowledge that it's going to happen to her oh my god this is like kevin spacey putting the bell jar thing out oh my god oh my god that's amazing it was pretty fucking funny another really funny part was like the interviewer was asking him about like antifa and all of the the federal troops in like portland and um and he was like yeah you know i mean like the the the reporter kept pressing him on the sort of like legality of this and like you know people being kidnapped and disappeared in vans and and um and and if anybody was investigating all this and and and they kept pressing him on

this and trump at one point just like he he was incredulous he looked at the reporter i wish somebody would take this clip out and isolate it because he looked at the reporter 100 genuinely looked at him and goes have you been watching television and the reason it was so funny is because what he was saying was like yeah of course we've got federal troops there have you not been watching television like there's violence and it just shows you that like that's all he does is watch television that's the gold standard for how you're supposed to consume everything exactly i feel like he didn't even do it as like subterfuge or or you know disingenuous whatever he was genuinely like yeah have you not been watching television have you you not been seeing this? We're horrified.

Oh, my God. There's another funny part. I should have put that Ghislaine Maxwell is the money shot, because that's definitely the funniest part. But, like, there was another funny part where he was talking about Afghanistan, and the reporter was asking him about, like, when you came in office, you said there'd be less troops in afghanistan at the end of your term than than going in and he was like there is there's going to be and he was like well no there's still 8 000 troops in afghanistan there were 8 000 troops when you came in and he was like no there's gonna be 4 000 troops and the reporter was like wait are

you serious like this is huge news if you're if you're serious this is huge news that you're cutting in half the number of troops that have guests did somebody did somebody did one of the joint chiefs of staff come whisper in his ear after he said that and he was like well we're gonna try to anyway no literally he looked at the camera and you could tell he fucked up he was was like, oh, I mean, he's like, no, I mean, like, there will be less. Like, we're looking into it. We're looking into it. I love that's one of his go-to evading lines is we're looking at this and we're doing it.

Yeah. We're looking at all the facts, folks. That's all we can do. It's crazy that he's just, like, literally tossing out nonsense about people's lives. Like 4,000 people stationed in Afghanistan. Impacting who knows how many people's lives negatively in Afghanistan. I don't know. We're looking into it.

No, it was. There's so many good parts, though though but you have to watch the whole like i said you have to watch the whole thing because you need the sort of you need the holistic experience of like entering this guy's brain i mean literally it was like because this is the funny thing and this is the reason why interviewing him like this doesn't matter. Because you could have the most hard-hitting journalist pressing him on everything, which is what this journalist did. And it still wouldn't change the fact that at the end of the day, Trump does not have dialogues. He only has monologues.

He only speaks with himself outward like there's no he doesn't have a conversation with anybody he just like dictates and speaks out loud and then you're supposed to react to it because you could make it like a when I was watching it I was like this kind of feels like one of those late night you know how I like on late night shows you know i feel like on john john stewart used to do this or maybe someone else like they would have somebody speaking and then they would have like an interlocutor like responding on screen but not in the room with that person does that make sense like so like so like every dumb thing the person says the person

commenting on it tries to like put in a rebuttal. Like, oh, but you said this, this, and this. That's what watching this felt like. But the person was physically in the room with Trump, and it did not matter. Trump just barreled through him regardless. So, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, like, I mean, fundamentally, this is why I think this is why liberals really want it to matter. Because, yeah, like 50 years ago when, quote unquote, public opinion was something that mattered and when public officials had to respond to that, interviews like this would actually have impact.

They would ripple out into broader discourse and you know political economy but now it's just it's just dropping a fucking my son don't give a fuck about this has he tweeted about it I haven't seen him no

I haven't seen him tweet about it yet I bet he was proud of himself. I find him fascinating. In the same way that Tom finds Biden fascinating, I find Trump fascinating. Like, I mean, he has a brain like no one else. No one has a brain quite like Trump's. And what's so funny about the Biden thing,

is like, I was laughing about this people who think that it's going to get better if Biden gets elected that same kind of interview will play out with Biden but in a in a even more farcical way because with Biden he would just be forgetting all the things you just asked him or being like ah geez man you know what I mean like deflecting what is it called and maybe somebody out there that listens to us can answer what is it what there is like a uh something you call like a go-to refrain from somebody that has like cognitive decline like you know like something that like they know it's kind of like their resetter or like kind of what like buys them some time time to get their thoughts or whatever. Sort of like an anchor

phrase. I'd do this as a stutterer. I'd do this as just a man who's drinking himself stupid in his 30s. What do y'all think is Trump's... I feel like most people, if they acted this way, would be like, oh, they're at burnout. They're just like totally...

They have a totally fried brain. Do you think he's burnout? i just think it's senility what i think it's senility same as biden i mean i think i don't think trump's like sundowning quite like biden is like biden has like two go-to phrases he has come on man and then he does the thing he also does the thing where he says well i shouldn't say that because i like like the interview that everybody's sharing around twitter right now with the guy you know what i'm talking about yeah and he's like man what if i what if what if i said test you for cocaine before you came out here is that the one where he says that like um unlike african americans, the Latino population is very diverse?

Is that the one where he says that? You watch the extended versions. I've just watched the clips floating around. He says a couple things funny. He says, I'm forward looking to standing on that stage or sitting on that stage or whatever with President Trump like he has

little just things little subtle things you can pick up on that show that he is you know kind of sliding a little bit well the funny thing about this is that if you believe in the proposition that this is a race between um who is less senile who is uh more mentally there

unbelievably enough trump is actually more there mentally than biden because i can't imagine biden being able to sit there 37 minutes of an interview like this no way and being able to sort of like do his thing you know what i mean like biden where trump where trump is caught in a lie or when he's um caught uh faced with facts of his own malfeasance and everything what he does is what he's done with his own uh sort of financial empire he just papers over everything with debt and he does the same thing rhetorically he just will he'll just like i said just barrel through something with no regards for how it winds up looking in the end because he smartly understands that optics no

longer matter biden what biden does is biden turns on the charm he turns on the old man charm i mean anybody who's had a sundowning grandpa has seen this like they understand that they're the sort of objects of laughter in the room and that they're kind of like losing it and so they're they make a joke they're kind of self-deprecating and they kind of make a joke out of it and be like ah geez you know at my age you don't buy ripe bananas exactly exactly and so um so trump is more put together in that way but that does go to show you and i'm not i'm just saying this as an observation. It's whatever.

It just goes to show you, though, that Biden is the restoration. He's the restoration of Obama. I mean, it's just Obama can't run for president again legally, so they have to have an empty placeholder to put that back in. It is kind of wild that Trump would never admit he's an old man. He would never make an old man joke about himself. Like, never. They're so different. I hadn't really thought about

how it's like Trump is pretending like he's in his 20s. That's so true. Like, he has no self-awareness. He's eating filet-o-fish every day. That so true. Like, he has no self-awareness. He's eating Filet-O-Fish every day. That is true. Well, he has no...

He has no... He is the kind of, like, two sides of American humor. Because he has no self-deprecation. Biden is all self-deprecation. Yeah. Yeah. Trump genuinely thinks that his peers are like whoever like the new matinee idols are in hollywood or whatever like they're all they're all chasing the same women

he really does he really does i mean what else what else could you explain to a man's got a coronary calcium score out the ass that continues to eat two Big Macs and two Filet-O-Fish every day for dinner. And, like, he thinks he's 35. Oh, fuck. Well, I just thought that y'all should experience that. I, uh... Watching it is fascinating because your blood pressure Well, I just thought that y'all should experience that. Watching it is fascinating because your blood pressure will quite literally go up every time he starts speaking.

Just because... I feel like this is Patreon content. You should be videoing yourself reacting in live time to these things. Like you should have set up a camera. Did you watch this on your computer or on your phone? On my phone. Okay, then you could have set up your camera did you watch this on your computer or on your phone on my phone then you could have set up your laptop yeah

I don't think you have to exaggerate them I don't think it would have to be exaggerated no really cause he was like at one point he's like Russia's not gonna mess with afghanistan they went into afghanistan in the 80s afghanistan they kicked him out they're not gonna be going back there anytime soon i was like like nothing's ever changed

trump is trump is stuck in 1981 or like you know like late 80s. Like 88, 89. That's what I'm saying. It feels like he never came back from a trip or something. Well, that is a really hilarious analysis. Because what he was saying was Soviet Union. You know why the Soviet Union doesn't exist?

Soviet Union is Russia now because of Afghanistan. They're not going to go anywhere near Afghanistan. Like they beat their ass on the playground one time and then that's they learned their lesson i mean like try to get an answer that lucid out of joe biden i mean it's not gonna it's go it's not gonna happen gun to my head if you were like, you have to fucking vote or we're going to blow your brains out. Actually, I would probably just let you blow my brains out. But if I was having a good day, I would tell you to vote for Biden, obviously. But that's only because you're not actually getting Biden.

You're just getting the restoration package. You're just getting an empty placeholder to keep things relatively stable exactly exactly yes let me ask you this do you think there's a better ticket out there than that first biden trump debate in terms of just sheer entertainment value like this is going to be i feel like right now is it potential to be like the defining piece of art of our time it's not scheduled because we've been in fucking july for like six years we can't fucking move forward i mean one thing we didn't cover um which we should have but one thing we didn't cover, which we should have, but one thing we didn't cover is like the, or maybe we did.

I don't even remember now, but like the DNC platform. Oh, God, yeah. Medicare for all was just down. We mentioned it. Just all over it. It was just a joke. Medical marijuana. Yeah.

Because we talked about howans are likely to give us uh weed before democrats at this point oh yes yes which we've we predicted we said i mean i think it was maybe you terrence a year ago that that that could be how trump gets elected all he has to do is legalize weed it's like enough of an issue that it would alienate his base yeah but it would bring on enough enough potheads to be like hell yeah the bar is really so low the bar is so low for trump to win there's just like so there's just like a handful of things easily he could do to win well the thing is is is i don't even know if he needs

to do it now like i think that they were just like with the whole idea that like the right was becoming the left or moving to the left of the democratic party on a couple of those issues it's like like they don't really need that now, because we got half the damn population out of work, and the line's moving up, stocks are doing great, everybody that's got access to that's doing fine. Which you all have still yet to explain to me. doing fine which you all have still yet to explain to me well i think that it's it's pretty simple if you look at the fact that not only are stocks going up but rents are also going up and uh

property values are also going up and so i think that what what it just sort of explains, and this is why I fully support putting children back to the factories and fields. Idle hands at the devil's workshop. It will remove at least one more contradiction. Because we really do just need to get back to some sort of hybrid capitalism, feudalism thing. Where it's just like, give six-year-old farm implements and be like, all right, well, you can't go back to school. We've got widening inequality.

Like all of these, as you said, the numbers that are just going up, just show you that inequality is just getting more exacerbated and exaggerated in the this masturbated oh my god it really is it's uh it's insane to see and also it's i mean i hate to just belabor the adam curtis thing but like just belabor the adam curtis thing but like it's really just sort of the culmination of like this idea that trump wanted to make new york a city for the rich by the rich and now by extension a country for the rich by the rich and it's really more than anything i think a testament to that it's like yeah they might have to deal with this blighted landscape of all these diseased reprobates that are fucking you know dying by scores a day but like in the end like they've got more or less what they set out to

that day in new york city in 1972 right right oh you're right uh well well, that's the news from our current politics. Should we pivot to the next thing we want to talk about? I have a list of things, and I left it in the kitchen, and I don't want to get up and grab it. But if I remember correctly, I believe the next item on our list of things to talk about it comes by way of the washington post unless y'all don't want to talk about this do you not want to talk about this

i mean that's all i've talked about for the past week this week has felt like a fucking year because of queer appalachia i'm in so many dms about this nonsense so many group chats just like trying to decipher one all of the people who have been warned about mamone for years that we've been warning people about now having to come out and make statements. We've been tracking that. I knew all y'all met on Sundays. You've been telling me you didn't for years.

And... Y'all just meet up on Sundays and start scissoring? Scissor Sundays. Scissor sundays scissor sundays wait before you go any further let's set this up because um there's a lot of people who listen to this show who have no idea what this is and we have to make it relevant to the normal normie listener who thankfully and i'm envious envious of them who has no idea what this even is thank god yeah very and so first off first off let me just say this and if you would like to keep it that way and we strongly caution that you consider it you might want to just log off right

now pause and go ahead and scoot forward about 10 to 15 minutes i honestly am hesitant about 10 15 i honestly am hesitant to 10 15 i honestly am hesitant to get into it because we're just making these this dumb cunt more famous like giving them more fucking fuel when they need to be it doesn't matter at this point bridge um i wouldn't go so that far but into shallow water yeah again i would not go that far um but i do find i did the reason i don't want to spend more than 10 or 15 minutes on it it's not that it's not as important as for example sending kids back to school in a pandemic but it is emblematic but we do have to talk about it because i think it's emblematic of the of the times we live in right um and so uh so what it

is is it's a story in washington post it's called the tale of queer appalachia a popular instagram account raises funds for lgbtq people in appalachiaia. But does the money really go where it's supposed to? And so the story, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think Tom has done a little more digging into the bare bones of this than I have. But the story is essentially about how the person that runs this account has taken a lot of money from people without any sort of transparency of where it goes. And that includes not just money from merchandise sales and donations, but from grants for things like harm reduction, needle exchanges, and stuff like that.

And it appears as if the money were going basically to enrich this one person who presents themselves as being a collective, who presents the whole project called Queer Appalachia as being a collective of people when in reality it's one person and maybe another person, but definitely no more than two people and so i personally i i'm i don't know if you want to hear my thoughts on this because they're probably ignorant and will be offensive to all that are sure to listen to this um but my thoughts on this is that mamon the person that runs this they like donald trump have an exquisite brain that I think needs to be preserved at all costs because anybody who can come up with the term metro normative is thinking on a higher level than the rest of us man that is that is something I'll tell you that I i you know this this genre of sort of activism is good to like you know for an ever-expanding lexicon of you know a sort of woke alphabet soup or whatever but like that is just

you know what's wild is i've had them blocked for years because i've had to deal with them for i've literally been dealing with my mom since before queer appalachia that's how deep this wound is and i've had their fucking instagram blocked for years and i didn't realize that they've been using until this fucking until emma's story finally dropped years in the making that they've been using the term metro normative for a long time someone sent me apparently they had a huge telethon that raised hundreds of thousands of dollars with all these celebrities these like queer celebrities and literally called it like the Metro normative something something telephone. No. That's so fucking badass.

I'll dig through. I'll find the screenshot and send it to you. It's just, it's, I just don't even know what to say anymore about career Appalachia. I feel like I've been having to drag this motherfucker for so long that it is just like punishment every time i have to talk about them i feel like i'm being punished well okay but what why why is that i mean ostensibly it's because you are not only queer but are probably more embedded in queer communities than Tom and I are. Correct? Yeah. I was about to say, when you said Tom's dug into this more than I have, I was like, this must be how they feel when I speak confidently about things I know nothing about.

I think you just meant the art. No, what I meant was Tom dug into the financial stuff. I was doing the whole, where's the money going? what I meant was Tom dug into the financial stuff. Like, was it like, Tom was doing the whole, where's the money going? Yeah, I'm a watchdog. Yeah. Well, I don't know.

So, like, do you not want to talk about it then? I mean, because we don't have to. No, I just don't know what So, like, do you not want to talk about it then? I mean, because we don't have to. No, I just don't know what else there is to say. Just, like, Mamon's a fucking maniac who's manipulative, just like a compulsive liar. Just, and a grifter, just like kingpin grifter. I don't know what else to say. Well, I'll say this.

Listen, I love a good grift. I am not mad at the game at all. Listen, I love a good grift. I am not mad at the game at all. Where I draw the line is that, like, you know, if you're going to, like, raise money to give people access to, like, prep or shit like that, like, oh, God, you know, money probably needs to go to that. Yeah. yeah well sell i hawk hawk all the tchotchkes and fucking dumbass like you know uh fucking possum with angel wings fucking butt fucking a waffle house with dolly parton on its back fucking onesies you want to but like you know i don't know i mean just like there's a certain there's a line there you know there's, you know? There's still honor amongst thieves, you know?

Well, the money is like, they are making this all about money and transparency because that's what they can weasel out of. It's like, yeah, they got rich on people's donations and they just fucked over a bunch of people. Okay, well, every non-profit we know about is probably doing that. Okay, well, every nonprofit we know about is probably doing that. It's like a large-scale grift of money, and it's very hard to see the trickle-down of programming. Correct. That's an old song. Correct.

That is bad enough in itself, of course. We talk about that grift on this podcast often however what makes this different is they were they successfully created a monolithic brand out of nothing by like buying followers and manipulating the internet in ways i don't even understand um in order to block out lots of other actual queer organizing block them from money block them from recognition literally. Literally just out here stealing from people. Left and right. Well, would you say, though, however, would you say, though, I mean, this might be a leading question, but. You ask a leading question?

People bought into it. And I understand why. Because it created a sort of simulacrum of community it gave people i mean in the washington post article itself and maybe you disagree i don't know but the article quoted people who were like i as a queer appalachian southerner or whatever looked at this and said oh oh, these are my people. This is community. I mean, and so,

would you say that, like, it wasn't just pure, I mean, you could say that that's manipulation, of course, but it wasn't just pure, like, gaming the numbers through buying followers or whatever. It was something that resonated with some people, right? I mean, I think it's a little bit like the McGrath campaign,

if you want to be honest. Like, most of the money and numbers came from somewhere else the dark corners of the fucking white queer cosmos i don are not from here but of course people love a fucking meme page my god they just like they just like created a meme page at the heat of at the height of the meme page and it took that's and it took off and they literally talked and crowed about work that other people were doing and claimed it as their own. Again, I guess that is a common grift. I just said, I have, I mean, I have zero problems with, like, start the meme page, buy the followers, sell the tchotchkes. I don't give a fuck about none of that.

I don't care if you're saying the dumbest shit ever was that you've ever seen. I don't care about any of that. But I think, honestly, it's not fair to criticize Mamon and not take to task anybody with 501c3 status that takes, like, buku money for doing ill-defined shit like harm reduction you know what i mean well this is the thing that or tanya we're gonna say something no i mean i i've said the same thing it's like there's all these like cis men running these fucking grift meals, too, that we'll never see, uh, uh, never meet their fucking maker.

They'll never be brought to task over this shit. But, as queer people, like, we hold ourselves to different fucking... Yeah, me and and tom for example we hold ourselves to a different fucking standard and we are not gonna fucking idly sit by this bullshit i mean it's just fucking it's just kind of hard to process that um things that i have known and friends have like we've all been trying to like tell people and have been telling people for years it's all just been seen as rumors we've literally been told well that's probably just your experience la la la la over and over and over again it's now finally it's just like a lot to process that this

is like finally only real in reality because it was published in a paper when it's been lots of people's realities for so long and like even the qa stuff put the qa stuff on the shelf because like i said i've been dealing with this maniac since before qa what did y'all think about the right girl stuff i'm sure this was the first you've heard of that what was the right girl stuff i know my mom's got she's like started right girl records right right girl inc it's a lot that's nothing yeah that is not a thing it's like a big front for them to just like lie constantly they've literally convinced people that they were producing the indigo girls and all these other bands and they never oh the indigo girls have never heard of my mom never i wonder i started like

because here's the thing is you can't really shit a shitter okay because i know the hallmark of bullshit and when i start seeing like everybody from Howard Zinn to Jam Master Jay quoted as saying, Mamone is the Nelson Mandela of the queer community. Who said that? Who said that? I mean, you know, there's just that. Here's the thing with Mamone. Mamone used seven words when four words will do.

It's a classic blunder. Complete overplay. Like, frankly, if you think Howard Zinn was singing the praises of Mamon, I got a fucking bridge to sell you. Well, I think the... The reason I found this fascinating, there's several reasons. The first is that in the article

they differentiate themselves from a non-profit. Over the course of their grift, they've differentiated themselves from a non-profit over the over the course of their grift they've differentiated themselves from a non-profit which that was their first error look come you come to the trillbillies to learn several things you learn how to be a dumbass you learn how to be a liar you learn how to be a grifter uh and i'll tell you how to be a grifter you you don't want to go out there and just take people's money unaccounted for. Get a 501c3. Do your taxes.

Count all the money coming in. That's the way to do it. And Mamone got sloppy is really what it is. That's 100%. Because they were buying new cars. Look, I know all kinds of executive directors and nonprofits around here who aren't buying new cars. They're buying new cars. Look, I know all kinds of executive directors of non-profits around here who aren't buying new cars. They're buying used cars.

It's like Robert De Niro in Goodfellas. Don't go out and buy the mink coat. Yeah, you don't. That's how you end up in the back of a fucking garbage truck. Exactly. So there's one blunder. Exactly. So there's one blunder. And then another blunder is that a hallmark of a grift, a hallmark of any grift,

and this is pertinent to us, it's pertinent to anybody. The hallmark of any grift is if someone is constantly fundraising. And not only that, not only constantly fundraising, and this is from my experience growing up in church and from being aware of televangelists and everything else, not only constantly fundraising, but fundraising under the pretense of, if you don't give money now, something really bad will happen. When I was in church, it was,

when I was in church, it was, the devil's going to get you uh christ is coming back so we need to tell evangelist oral roberts famously said that god was going to kill him if he didn't raise four million dollars from his listeners that's like that's like the high water mark of that grift uh but in corey apolachia's case it was always like trans femme black activists who were like at risk of dying it was bipoc or whatever it's like always people were gonna be slaughtered if you didn't give them fucking money right now so that was another hallmark of the grift and i think that another reason why I find this fascinating, the final reason, is because it is such, is because they build themselves as mutual aid. And in this moment where there's no centralized universal health care system, there's no institutions that are looking out for us.

And in fact, they're all rotting. From the inside. Rapidly. It's the wild west out there. Yeah, from the inside. Yeah. It allows itself and mamone is only one of a constellation of grifters i remember the safety pin box yeah remember that shit right after the

20 2016 election it's just exactly shit like that when you have a a situation where um a situation where um that is political uh when you have a sort of institution or group of people that's political and your acceptance into that world is contingent upon your ability to say specific words or or predicated on buying something to participate predicated on buying something and knowing the jargon of things for example words like metro normative i mean excellent excellent again that was one thing that they did right that ramon did right if you want to perpetuate your cult-like grift you got to make up more words so metro normative is another one i mean like it all these, it's all this social justice jargon that has exploded in the last five years. It creates a situation

that is ripe for exploitation. And so, if people can come in and out of that world by their ability to traffic in the jargon that allows you in and out of it, then you can position yourself as what they call an article, a gatekeeper, or whatever.

But again, Mamon's big error wasn't doing that because nonprofits do that every day it's just not it's just being sloppy with the accounting it's just i mean i mean they could have got a lot more mileage out of this thing if they would have just not been sloppy with the accounting no it's true because it's like people only give a fuck about money like they've they've been such an abusive fucking maniacal force and that's really is the most is like the most troubling upsetting part this is like almost it's this shit is too personal for me to be able to make good jokes about it's just like the money is what is like that's the only thing that's the only reason that they

finally were brought to task is because that's the only thing anybody gives a fuck about is fucking finances and shit well can i ask you this tanya so in the piece uh this leo person purports that mamon is a millionaire okay is that confirmed is that true that was news to me i wouldn't doubt it i mean well i mean what you say about them being like trump is that is something because here's they have a they see it it does appear my own has a terrific as many abusers do you don't get away with abuse without being really charismatic and convincing people that they deserve the abuse and like being really like um being very very jekyll hyde shit you know like like prominent abusers also are very likable they have to be to be able to keep abusing you know yeah this is just typical but i was news to

me that they were a millionaire but i don't doubt it but they do have an exceptional sense of timing. And a friend pointed out yesterday, I think, that it's like they got in. They're such a classic grifter that they got in like at the right moment on all these like the wind of all these resurgence of movements. Like the resurgence of the right girl movement in the mid aughts. Like they they sort in to make that to get to do that. I mean, they didn't do anything really they haven't really done anything but make memes and raise money um and then there was like the queerness the royal queerness that became that became cool again um you know in the last you know my thing is i don't even care about that shit i mean we came in at the

right time on the wave of like left podcasting like i don't give a fuck about like tapping into scenes or anything like that particularly if you're a queer person that that you know can participate or should participate in all that i don't care about any of that well i'm getting to the mutual aid and the fucking harm reduction work like they got in on the tip of that still like coped up all the money they could exactly and literally wrecked people's lives like left people just like literally high and dry yeah yeah and trickled out little you know harm reduction kits to a few people here and there who would sing their praises and gave out these like thousand dollar micro grants which were obviously nothing to them here and there to a few a handful of fucking people who would sing their praises even though they were told do not fuck with qa

do not fuck with my moan i cannot stress enough how many people have been warned about this and just were like probably gossip here's my thing it's like when this story broke i was listening to this podcast and they had david crosby on there and crosby steals nash and young fame hell yeah i fuck with david crosby cross said that like basically because of covid he's almost in the poorhouse. He's had these tours booked, and he needs those to keep his nut up and all that stuff. And my first thought was, if Mamone's going to try to say that this wealth is because of Riot Grrrl Inc., an independent label out of Brooklyn, if David Crosby is nearing the poorhouse my mom ain't making millions from an indie record label i will tell you that right now an indie record label that

never produced one record oh really so that was just like a no it was a complete sham every bit of it uh see i've i've heard it like spoke about glowingly in Pitchfork and reputable places. I didn't know that. I think you all are mixing up Riot Grrrl as a movement. No, no, no. Riot Grrrl ain't the label. I've heard it described as the venerable Brooklyn-based imprint started by

the artist formerly known as Gina Mamone. Dear God almighty. I don't know. Well, it doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't matter that we're discussing this because people are going to do what they're going to do. This has been written. We've talked about it on the show.

And it's, you know, I don't know. Yeah, we've talked about queer Appalachia before because Terrence famously claimed to have been the first person out in front of it because of a banjo tweet or some shit. I don't remember what you said. it was was um my spidey senses my woke spidey senses were raised early on because uh because they treat class like it's a cultural affectation as if it's like i yeah it's kind of like the metro normative thing it's like it's they treat it as if it's like something you can take on and and take off in the. And therefore, that gives you authenticity and legitimacy. I mean, it's a very bizarre thing. But if you like their stuff, and you know that it's a grift, but you keep giving them money...

That's my thing. There's a word for you. Just spend your money where the fuck you want. I'm not here to tear down Queer Appalachia. I'm just calling it like i see it what what's there's a name for you you're a mark i mean that's fine there are marks in the world there are people who get conned and they like getting conned i don't understand why it's something they have in their brains but i guess even when we were saying all that earlier on it's

people still wanted to buy the dolly memes and the possum memes and i don't know it's all it's all wrapped up in this big thing where like appalachia itself is hot right now and that's another coattail that they wrote in on as you're saying tanya and like and that we did too i mean let's be honest here it is yeah yeah jd vance doesn't exist hell if queer appalachia doesn't exist all that stuff we probably don't exist but guess what we're here baby we're eating i i don't know any closing thoughts Tanya Just kill me You've got that look I just want to be at the end

I'm sorry You've got the look that you usually get When you do not want to be discussing something I'm just This has just been beat out of me Every single day of this week Since this popped off So this came out on Mondayay on sunday scissoring sunday a new group chat was created to talk about

how qa was was setting their sights on the next great fucking grift land back and they were literally they were crowdsourcing reparations they were literally going to start crowdsourcing land that was their next great uh fucking adventure they had they had got all the money they could possibly suck out of this turnip and then they were like you know what we can do we can start the we can start using this land back shit and actually acquire a property so their next great fucking adventure was going to be property through a land back movement and they may well do it if y'all don't fucking just fucking leave them out to dry i was lit laughing my ass off that is right me and james were making fun of

that like days before this popped off i totally it was about that. It was on Sunday. Yeah, it was on Sunday. And then the next fucking day, the article finally dropped, which we've, and I've been, I met Emma probably two years ago talking about this. So Emma, say what you want, but Emma has like probably made herself a fucking maniac trying to write this stupid article and has really made herself unsafe like coming from a moan you it's literally you literally they have sued poor people over and over again like they they literally have used the law literally lawyers to abuse people like they come for you and so many people wouldn't even talk to emma because they live in such fear of

mamone and qa well i thought if you see any post about metro normative anytime someone hits you up and is like hey yo you want to go in on some reparations with me anytime somebody tries to make you feel like an idiot about whatever the latest nomenclature and woke language is that's like that's that's another telltale like there there is there is a such thing i think as emotional labor i'm not disputing that notion but some people are just assholes fucking a yo hit my line yo yo anybody wanted to go in some reparations for me hit my line we're gonna get 10 houses by 2024

me and some homies are going in on reparations does anybody is anybody interested me and the boys are go funding some reparations this weekend and the pro we're getting some properties they have to have hot tubs and organic springs let's say let me ask you a question just on the face of it what is the difference between like i could see my bone doing some sort of gentrification project and then just calling it like a reparations. Yeah, it is. It is totally. They're like, oh, we're going to gentrify a commune, a country.

We're going to gentrify a trailer park, move some people in who we are going to convince you are native because of some blood quantum myth craziness, which they have clung to. That's your favorite, Grift. Terrence. Oh, absolutely. Which they have done themselves. It is a good one. They have claimed for themselves. I mean, the thing is

that just to dial it out though, I mean, this is a problem among the left in general insofar as there even is a left and it shows it it just goes to show you that the answer for all of these things anytime someone approaches you about individual reparations or anytime someone approaches you about i mean this is even probably the problem with like things like sort of like guilt politics it's just like the only way that we can reach revolution liberation is through some collective political project it can't be like you know buying dolly memes i mean whatever if you want to again i can't do that but it's not politics whatever the

fuck you want it's an aesthetic choice exactly and not a good same thing that non-profits do i guarantee you there are non-profits gentrifying areas and calling it reparations oh yeah It's not a policy. It's an aesthetic choice. And not a good one. And this is the same thing that nonprofits do. I guarantee you there are nonprofits gentrifying areas and calling it reparations. Oh, yeah. I mean, if individual white people are giving their money for reparations, that's not reparations. It's something else. But unless Western white civilization actually reckons with that at the societal level then it's not reparations but people can grift all they want on that

and people will buy into it well meaning white people will non POC people will buy into it and be like yeah you're exactly right and if it's not that then it's just like fucking extreme makeover home edition queer appalachian

which is probably where they were headed they were going to start their own hgtv yeah and then you see like three years later those people lose their homes because they can't pay the property taxes or some shit yeah fucking a uh we spent way too much time talking about that. I only wanted to do like 15. I just had to pull it out of you, Tanya. I'm sorry. I wanted you to talk about it. You love to torture me. And I could tell you didn't want to.

And I have my ways. Well, we're at an hour. I really, really want to cover this thing in that way. Let's stick a pin in that until Sunday. Oh, please. But it's so important this is something that needs to be on the public feed we can't put it behind a paywall let's do it we should have put this fucking dumb appalachia queer appalachia shit behind the paywall cut it out there cut it out There was an easy... There was plenty of pause before we started this. You said, what's next on the list?

And then you could just cut right there, send this to the Sunday feed. And put a song on the end and then we'll banter for 15 minutes and call it good. Yeah. I mean, it's up to you. I can't make you guys do anything

you don't want to do. But I did want to cover this because it's way more than... Let's cover it. We got a half hour. I got till three. Let's cover it's up to you. I can't make you guys do anything you don't want to do. But I did want to cover this. Let's cover it. We got a half hour. I got until three. Let's cover it. Cut this out. Move Queer Appalachia to the Saturday feed.

And then we'll Sunday feed. Or whatever. We'll see. We'll see if we do or if we don't. Whatever. But regardless, let's cover this. There's an article in The Atlantic I wanted to cover. Jeffrey Goldberg, who apparently blocked me way back in 2010

for telling him to go back to his fucking prison camp where he was guarding Palestinian guards. Interesting. Jeffrey Goldberg was pushing this one over the weekend. Or at the beginning of the week to the atlantic it says i'm a nurse in new york teachers should do their jobs just like i did by kristin mcconnell nurse and writer kristin um so i had to ask the grand against this one not just because my mom is a teacher but also because i have a lot of friends who are teachers. Also because this is genocidal. Yeah.

The other day, my husband, a public school teacher in New York City, got a string of texts from a work friend. After checking in on our family and picking up their ongoing conversation about books and TV shows, she wrote, So, are we going on a teacher strike in the fall? What?

No. My husband is adamantly against a strike because he understands on a deep personal level his duty to serve his country in the classroom. He's a bootlicker. He's a bootlicker. My husband's a big pussy. Pussy good, bootlicker bad. Through the spring,

through the spring, I took care of COVID-19 patients at the hospital while he toggled between teaching on Zoom and helping our daughters through their own lessons. While he played with his fucking little dick at home. He knows that I did my part for society and that now he should too. Oh my god. This really is the same take as like, you mean you're giving these people off work $600 fucking dollars a week? Yes, it is.

This is the same take. It comes from the same exact worldview. Not to mention that it's being espoused by a worker, someone who's exploited for their labor and who would be sort of theoretically in the same socioeconomic class as a teacher a teacher a nurse it's fucking it's just like the most anti-solidaristic thing you can imagine um we wouldn't be in this mess of uncertainty about the coming school year if the federal government had managed to control the

virus any glimmer of leadership from the president would have gone a long way grievances and fear are understandable i support teacher-led campaigns to make sure that safety measures are in place, and any city or state experiencing a spike in cases should keep schools shut, along with indoor businesses. What I don't support is preemptively threatening safety strikes, as the American Federation of Teachers did in late July. These threats run counter to the fact that, by and large, school

districts are already fine-tuning social distancing measures and mandating mask wearing. Okay, here's what I want to say. Here's what I want to say. In this self-same magazine, did you see the egg-yong piece that was going around? No. I did not, no.

All this kind of stuff. And there was another piece, not that one but another one that was talking about like i think they called it uh sanitation theater how that basically the idea that you can just put hand sanitizer up and clean real good was just an excuse to keep businesses open because this is aerosol spread it's not yeah yeah it's yeah yeah it's ridiculous it's there and it's so extra concerning that a nurse that a fucking health care worker is spewing this nonsense and to say oh i support teachers leveraging their power to make sure that it's safe it's not safe there's no possible way to go to school in a pandemic safely it's not there's no safe way to be in a public building with other

people right now bottom line zero it ain't safe did you guys did you guys read that washington post article i sent you the headline is just i'm sorry but it's a fantasy no you sent that an hour ago you can't expect me to work that quick. It was interviewing this guy named Jeff Gregorich, a superintendent from a school in Arizona. And you really have to read. I highly recommend. I'm not going to read it because I'm not going to do it justice because of the sort of prose, like the sort of way that it's written.

I'm not going to educate written it's just i'm not gonna educate you um you have to read these two in tandem because it's so astounding like he he was a superintendent at a school in arizona where one of his teachers has already died and another one has covet and school hasn't even started my god and he my God. And he's like... Are you fucking serious? And he's like... Yeah, and he's, like, freaking out. Like, there's no way. And he talks about it at the beginning.

Like, we have to go back or else we lose funding from the state. Like, they're making us go back. Who cares about this money? Well, I mean, but schools are already strapped in, is the point I'm trying to make, Tanya. Is that, like, they need the money. if they want to continue having school in 10 years. Like they have to have funding. OK, here's a question. I know that they they.

Can they literally just say, like, we're not having school, like we're not doing it online, we're not doing none of it. Well, teach can teachers still get paid and will they still like. line we're not doing none of it will teach can teachers still get paid and will they still like i mean surely they're saving money on feeding and fucking transporting people i don't know well i mean that's why there's this bigger social problem right because for a lot of kids the only meals they eat are at school yeah exactly exactly and then what about like all the aids that'll be out of work all the bus drivers, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, there are conundrums here, but like, how are we going to make those people whole while we get through this? The superintendent was talking about how, I mean, everybody needs to read this because this is a guy who is truly a public servant,

somebody who's dedicated to the well-being of people in his community. And he talks about how his school district has been feeding the students. They go from house to house feeding the students, and they give out more meals than there are students. They've been doing that here. Because a lot of students get their meals at school. That's the only place they get fed. But, I mean, it's just phenomenal.

Like, this Atlantic article is so ignorant because listen to this. Teachers are not being asked to work without precautions, but some overlook this. The politics of mask wearing have gotten so ridiculous that many seem to believe masks are only protect other people are largely symbolic. They're not. Nurses and doctors know that masks do a lot to keep us safe, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Everybody knows that, but teachers are actually being asked to work without precautions.

Like, there's plenty of fucking evidence to show that. Also, let me point out something that's just a little bit obvious here, too, I think. Like, your literal job is to show up because of health problems. If you're a nurse. You know what I'm saying? You know that going in. You know that there's a chance you could be incoming. And I'm not knocking nurses.

I mean, thank God for them. But I'm saying that that's far different from let's try to figure out a way to navigate around congregating together because my job has some flexibility that we could do it without imposing those risks. And I will say... We should say that... Who printed this? The Atlantic. I mean, I think it's probably fairly likely that

this bitch is in the minority of fucking nurse opinions about this. Don't you think? Yeah, I got it. I have no idea, but I would assume probably yes. And they printed this for clicks and shit. Unless you're a travel nurse at Whitesburg ARH, then, no,

they'd probably agree with you. Yeah, you're probably right. But she actually has an answer to that, Tom, to what you just said. My husband, playing devil's advocate while we discuss this said arguably health care is workers are arguably health care workers sort of signed up for this kind of risk but teachers did not i replied absolutely not doctors and nurses sign up for the work that is

sometimes high stress for us and sometimes life or death for our patients not for us aside from those who choose to work in biocontainment or offer their services in war zones we are not expected to do crucial medical work under potentially lethal circumstances somehow i don't buy that okay how are we supposed to stay healthy i mean here's what's interesting Here's what's interesting. Here's what's interesting with that. That has been like the exact opposite of what she just said has been like a point of pride for nurses forever.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And deservedly so. I mean, god damn, it is an extremely tough job and you're going in there like as a hypochondriac, I fucking salute you because I could never do that job what's wild is just it's just it is so okay imagine if you will we are a hundred years in the future and we're telling this story like it and people are literally begging to live people are begging you to defund the police.

And it's obvious where that money needs to go. Into our fucking education system, which is floundering right now. And literally putting all the lives at risk for money because they don't have any. Our government is just so it's just it's incomprehensible how simple this is and how committed to death this system is how just truly committed to misery we're crazy as a society largely because we're simultaneously a death cult that is also death defying yeah um all right i mean like listen to this i said when i when she was asked to um I mean, like, listen to this.

I said when she was asked to, when the pandemic first started, I said, no, I can't just chump out. Oh, my God. Chump wasn't the right word at the moment. I was almost hysterical, and it was hard for me to even articulate how I felt. Called upon to do something frightening and hard that I viscerally did not want to do. The military language people used when discussing COVID-19 in the spring seemed totally appropriate. And in a way, that mentality got me through the peak. This was a war and I was a soldier.

It wasn't my choice to serve, but it was my duty. I had skills and knowledge that were needed. Isn't she just contradicting exactly what she just said? Didn't she literally just say it wasn't her duty to serve? I don't know. I can't follow this maniac um so i can understand that teachers are nervous about returning to school but they should take a cue from their fellow essential workers and do their okay okay okay okay people let me just say something to the nurse here do you you can either like be like live in your valor or not which is it this is just wholly inconsistent so like i was never asked and it is not my responsibility to fucking take care

of potentially fatally sick people but guess what i did it bravely and you all should too like what the which the fuck is it what the fuck is it yeah and not to mention she well acts like this is the first contagious disease that the medical industry has had to deal with like this isn't the birth of contagion here it just goes to show you that what she's really talking about here is she hates organized labor this is all this is about this is just to get an anti-labor opinion is what it is exactly and that is exactly right to the atlantic somebody saw brave to print this exactly somebody saw that teachers were threatening to go on strike in the fall and they understood that this could

have national implications it wasn't just going to be a state-by-state thing like it strike in the fall and they understood that this could have national implications it wasn't just going to be a state by state thing like it was in the spring of 2018 it could actually go national and they were like no we've got to start getting voices out there of other workers other essential frontline workers who basically shame the teachers and tell them to suck it up pussy and tell them to get back in the classroom and not to go on strike. It's like, too, do you ever think that, like, the failing Atlantic Magazine, which is basically just an airport rag at this point,

is like, do you think news outlets actually, like, purposely come up with stories because they're like, you know what I'm saying, if the teachers strike, they gotta send somebody out there to cover that and they don't wanna do that because they're like, you know what I'm saying? If the teachers strike, they got to send somebody out there to cover that

and they don't want to do that because they ain't got the funds themselves because they're in the toilet. If the goddamn teachers strike, we got to send somebody out there to fucking cover it. Let's get out here and try to squash this

before we have to come off our own pockets. I think that's very possible, um they suck so bad but listen listen to this this is fascinating even people who think there's a fundamental difference between a nurse and a teacher in a pandemic must realize that there isn't one between a grocery store worker and a teacher in terms of obligation people who work at grocery stores in no way signed up to expose themselves to disease, but we expected them to go to work, and they did. If they had not, society would have collapsed.

What do teachers think will happen if working parents cannot send their children to school? Life as we know it simply will not go on. First of all, society didn't collapse based on what somebody that's working at Kroger did or didn't do. Society collapsed because of incompetent decision making over a number of years. Not only incompetence, but just corruption. I hate that kind of framing, and it's part of this anti-labor thing that it puts the onus on the workers to keep things afloat. And not the power brokers well this is the thing though this is the kind of interesting thing about this is that the workers

and the administrators for example this superintendent who i was talking about in the washington post are the ones who are keeping things basically afloat right now and what scares them so much about a national teacher's strike is the fact that through striking through a large-scale strike like that workers find power and they find power through solidarity and the idea that workers could assert themselves like that to the extent that they might even be able to take over the public school system and start fighting back against people like betsy devos and this like charter school privatization and everything else that scares the absolute shit out of people and so they have to open up every front that they can whether it's a nurse whether it's coming from a nurse or a grocery store worker

whatever they have to drive so many divisions within the working class that that strike can never be realized. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's deliberate. When some of my husband's students told him that they had continued working as a cashier throughout the summer and spring, he said, wow, that's so courageous of you.

He feels that he doesn't really have anything to show for himself, and he looks forward to the time when he will. My husband is basically a big howler. I married a man of low resolve.

A bootlicking bitch, if you will. No, yeah, these people's lives are miserable because he's a scab and she's a scab they're both scabs you're miserable because because you have severed a camaraderie that exists amongst people that actually keep this world going you're isolated you're playing a role that you don't even you don't even know you signed up to play that is exactly right. They have alienated themselves from any kind of solidarity or community,

from anything that could actually make society better. They're the scab couple. It could be a sitcom. We're the scab couple. He crosses picket lines and i don't treat the scav couple there are a lot of those out there too he said yeah he sits on his computer all day wondering when he'll get back out.

All right. Now, contemplating the possibility of teacher striking, he says bowing out wouldn't be a good example to set for our students. I don't know. If you were to ask, poll any of the students in West Virginia when the teachers went on strike, I highly doubt they give a fuck about the decisions. Like, I highly doubt you'll find a student that's being like, well, our teachers went on strike. Man, we love that shit, mostly because we got out of school. Part of me growing up to be pro-labor was getting unexpected days off

because of teacher strikes. I'm like, hell yeah, that shit's hot. Exactly. And strikes demonstrate what community and solidarity is because people look out for each other and they take care of each other i mean it's like it's just so this this person is the antithesis of the um like during the west virginia teacher strikes you saw the bus drivers too wouldn't wouldn't like drive the buses you saw during the protest that like when they were loading up the

people into that bus to like take them away that the guy that was driving the bus said he's not doing it you know what i mean that kind of stuff yeah these people are the inverse of that just disgusting that's exactly right no it's exactly right teachers signed up to be a positive adult presence in children's lives and to help them grow up with their peers at school away from home we need them to follow through even though it's a challenge it's going to be hard it's going to be stressful it's not going to be perfect i can't think of one time that there was actually hand soap in the men's bathroom my husband told me that'll have to change hopefully for good i mean it's just like they point out all these current problems with the system all these flaws and but they can't they can't real they can't understand that like the actual solutions

to those things would be worker control of these systems i don't know there's a scab couple scab couple. Scab couple! Scab couple! Tune in next week. Oh my god. Well, alright. That about sums it up. We got it all. We got it all in there. We didn't get to cover one item.

You know what? I feel like I okie-dokied myself here. We shouldn't have even talked about Clear Appalachia in the grand scheme of things it's not as important as the article i read in the wall street journal that says pickup trucks are getting huge um and how pickup trucks gained pickup trucks gained uh 1200 pounds between 1990 and 2019 hey Hey, man, we all pick up a few pounds as the years roll on. It's all right. That's a much more important story, I guess. Well, thanks for bearing with us, folks.

Since we're still under an hour and a half, I'm going to leave all that queer Appalachia nonsense. Hopefully you got something out of it. Hopefully you weren't entirely offended or bored um but if you would if you were um you can go to the patreon and give us your money let's do a little let's do a little briefing of our own here us your money. Let's do a little riffing of our own here. That's right. If you don't give us money,

my prostate will get worse. I don't know, folks. Think about it. Think about the implications. And if you do get money, his prostate will indeed get worse. He'll be better equipped to deal with it, emotionally. that's exactly right um so anyways

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