Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 161: God Needed A Driver

Episode Date: August 27, 2020

Note: we recorded this outside, so apologies for the ambient bug noises. We cover all the craziest news of the week--hurricanes, wildfires, shootings, political conventions, striking professional athletes--and then try to fit it all within some unhinged religious worldview. Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

It's okay. I like your hair, Terry. You like it? It's getting a little party in the back there. I have got... A lot of party in the back. Mullet Central, baby. This is my second mullet of the quarantine.

I had to buzz all mine off. My shirt is just so stringy and weird. I had to start fresh. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good thing to do in August. It's hot as a son of a bitch. It's terrible.

Well, just to formally start, I had a fun thought experiment for both of you. Oh, God. So, you know how Anna Nicole Smith married that really old guy? Yeah, I don't remember his name.

Do you remember his name, Tom? My first instinct was H. Ross Perot, but I don't know. That's a Mandela effect thing. It was James Marshall or something like that.

He was like a Texas billionaire or something, right? James Howard Marshall. He was. He was like a Texas billionaire or something, right? James Howard Marshall. He was. He was like an oil man. He smiled. He was like an oil man. That man smiled bigger

than any of us will ever smile with Anna Nicole on his lap in his wheelchair. Something like that. I bet he did. I was laughing about the, yeah, James Howard Marshall, the third, or something like that. That's how you know he's like of old money. Yeah. I was laughing about the Yeah James Howard Marshall The third

Or something like that That's how you know he's like of old money Yeah If you've got a third Or an initial Like T. Boone Pickens Or Atrus Perot Yeah

Well he owned like 16% of Coke Industries Or something like that So he's that oil money No shit Yeah Oh But anyways I was thinking about So he's at oil money. No shit. Yeah. Oh. But anyways, I was thinking about, could you imagine, like, what if someone did that to Chomsky, but, like, didn't marry him for his money?

Like, you know how lately he's been telling everybody to go vote for Biden. Like, what if a young, enterprising, hot, liberal Biden supporter was like, Oh, so that's it. So Chomsky's got some, like, young pussy thrown at him. And now he's, like, telling everybody to go vote for Biden. You gotta go vote for Biden. Yeah, Noam looks like he's been asleep in the woods 10 years, but... Maybe. But he's getting it put on him by, like, a hot young Biden staffer to... Yeah.

Or consider this. Actually, this is a better hypothetical. That one was child's play. This one's a much better hypothetical. Imagine if Ann and Nicole Smith married, knowing Chomsky. Oh, yeah. I'm here for that. That sounds great. That's what chom needs there are there is a great intellectual tradition of uh

of uh erudite women marrying him bows and erudite men marrying i guess what it's the uh guess what it's the uh what's arianite bimbo yes yeah him but bimbo's the i was like what's what's the inverse of himbo yeah you've been you've ingrained himbo so deeply into your mind you forgot the etymology They didn't derive from Biddebo. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So, yeah, it'd be, it's, wow, yeah. Yeah. Shit. Brother no, my name is Nicole. Yeah. No, my name is.

I just, I married him for love. I married him. I just imagined wedding invitations. University of Pennsylvania salaries and book residuals being what they are. I'm sure if you did marry, no. I mean, he's probably one of those guys like, you know, like he probably bought his house in like 1968 or something. He has written like a hundred books. Oh my God, really?

He's written so many books. So, yeah, he might be rolling in it i mean i don't know my man comes from a generation where people actually got things done how so like you sat down to start a task and you finished it. Yeah, that's true. Well, he came from the generation of people who worked the same job for 45 years. A lot of wind at your back. Gnome's generation. Right, right. Stuck it out.

Which is like, we have to remember, my guy's like 94 years old. So he's like a little bit older than we're even thinking like boomers in their late 60s and early 70s. Yeah. He remembers the Haymarket Affair. She's like, I married him for the universal grammar theory of linguistics.

What? Any mind that could come up with that. It's gotta be fantastic. Deserves these cans. Gotta be a hellcat in the bedroom okay i've got something pretty wild to tell y'all um it's not that crazy but i thought i found it to be pretty crazy on a week that was already kind of spooky for me um so i was walking downtown

the other day and ben at the record store was standing out front and i got talking to him and he was like i gotta show you something man check this out and he went in he came back out with two envelopes both of them addressed to roundabout music company they had no return address on the, there was a single sheet of music in each one. And it had, you know, like sheet music had like a bass and treble clef notes on it.

And on the top of the first one, it said King Jeff Sonata Ballad B or something like that. Okay, before you go any further, I have a theory. Ellis Keys. Yeah, that was my theory, too. No, it might have been,

but there's another detail to this. So the first one, it said King Jeff, I think it said Sonata B, or something like that. And the second one said King Jeff, White Lady Jazz. And there was just notes on it. Inside the envelope?

Like, written on the... No, on sheet music itself. Oh, okay. Like with lines. Okay. And it was postmarked. This is why I don't think it was anybody around here. It was postmarked Cleveland, Ohio.

Was it also postmarked in the 18th century? Just took a while. Well, we were speculating. There was several people sitting around speculating about this. So they don't even know. Ben has no idea. No idea. No idea. Kevin Howard tried to play the notes and it was

it wasn't really anything. It didn't really It wasn't even really a song? No. And so we were speculating as to what it could be and i think the best one came from lacy who said that when you play it it opens up a portal to another dimension and this is like whatever needed to be released back into this world knew exactly who would play that specific song so they sent it to whitesburg kentucky and he played it and so i mean there might be something walking around in our midst but i

found it to be a very creepy thing. It's also a fantastic premise for some sort of horror thing if you wanted to. Exactly. Yeah, that is the beginning of a horror movie. There you go. If you're a writer in Hollywood, there's an idea.

There's your freebie, Sam. Your residuals to 50. You can tell Terrence is getting soft in his old age because normally he'd say, if you steal that, we'll sue you. Don't steal our shit. I believe common just giving it giving away the milk if i was smart i would sell that idea i mean like if i was trying to turn this business into an actually sustainable one because this patreon thing's not going to last forever you need residuals

yeah we need to keep getting paid long after we're yeah hang it up well this ain't uh i mean this is basically the storyline to goonies so it's not like this was a is it really well they have to play to get to the there's like a line of music that they have to play on that skeleton organ to get into the treasure ours has a supernatural element though. Something is coming from another world. You don't think One-Eyed Willie had a supernatural element to it?

And a hidden pirate ship? I watched it the other night, that's all I know. It's fresh on your mind. I haven't seen Goonies in ten years, I bet. Is there like a spirit element to it yeah you know the kid the main goonie whatever his fucking name is he thinks that uh when i when i really is like talking to him from beyond the grave giving him hints and shit fucking a you

always gotta ruin my ideas like truly no new ideas under the sun are there no it's pretty crazy though so you think the portal opened, and now we just don't know what's going on? I mean, look at what has happened in the last few days. Oh, is this finally this year going to correct itself? No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It actually seems the exact opposite.

It seems like it's leaning into itself. I mean, I think that there's been a... Since this all started, no, no, no, no. It actually seems the exact opposite. It seems like it's leaning into itself. I mean, I think that there's been a... We'll ask them further. Since this all started, right, like, we've had a few episodes where you've been, like... Where we've been, like... This was a week that things felt fundamentally sort of either changed or notable or something.

Mm-hmm. Like, up there with, like, the primary in the middle of the pandemic, the price of oil going below zero, George Floyd getting murdered. You know what I mean? There's been a few weeks that have stood out. And for me, this week stood out

for at least a dozen separate reasons. Yeah. I mean, look, just run down the list. You've got hurricane um wildfires yeah uh you've got more murder riots in wisconsin and then a right winger gunning down um people at the protests. And then to top it all off, we're in the middle of a presidential election. So the RNC and the DNC was both

this week. I know. Yesterday I was desperate for news coverage of the NBA strike. And all the news coverage was of the fucking RNC. And I just couldn't help but think how irrelevant an RNC convention is. Yeah. Did y'all watch any of it?

Tonya was like, yeah, I watched the whole thing. No. It just seemed so ridiculous. That's what all the news stations were covering. And I was like, the fucking NBA is on strike, you sons of bitches. What's happening? Well, as far as I know, we're recording this on Thursday, the 27th.

Before we started recording, it looked like they were not going on strike. Yeah, it looks like some teams have sort of reversed course. There was a meeting last night, very tight-lipped. I heard that. Apparently they were running a tight ship and there was no leaks in said

ship, so like, not even woes or anybody knew what was going on so out of that lebron james supposedly left the meeting and there was rumors i'm just piecing together what i've heard from my soul from my sources you know in the bubble and there were rumors that there were people were going to start stop leaving the bubble if like some certain things didn't happen. Going to start leaving the bubble. Yeah. Which is not, no, no.

Once you leave the bubble, you've got to sit out 10 days or whatever to come back. So today the NBA announces the playoffs are going to continue. And as far as I know, and somebody might be yelling at this by the time they get this, because I've learned that if you say something in the past that's true at the time, if it's no longer true when somebody hears it, they accost you. I don't know. Are you one of the faithful souls who was shouted down for calling it a boycott? who was shouted down for calling it a boycott. I made the mistake of, I was bitten by my own, you know,

my chickens came home to roost because I'm sure I've done this to people. Actually, motherfucker, it's this. You got well actually. But yeah, I was the one that when the news broke that it was a boycott, I was just parroting what, you know, at least one player and the reporters were calling it themselves i know intellectually this is ostensibly a wildcat strike you don't i mean this is what i do for a living people and i have people sending me message saying oh it's a strike not a boycott it's like motherfuckers that i know that like have no idea what kyrie Kyrie Irving is.

Oh, actually, it's a strike. Well, I tell you, it's very crucial that podcasters are telling the truth these days, apparently. Well, I mean, it wasn't even that. I was just echoing what was being said about it. People have really been up the orifice of our mentions lately. It's fine.

I welcome all that. I welcome all that. I don't hate anybody for that. I see you. You're heard. I just want you to know that I was just reporting the news. This man is a specialist in wildcat strikes. I just got out of nine months of fucking union

negotiations you think i don't know what a goddamn strike is come on so i've been doom zooming all day so what's happened in the last few hours where i've had my head up my ass on zooms i'll go to the tape this is what i'm hearing from my sources in the group i can't tell you what it's called now but it's the group formerly known as Peter's Out for Bernie. Well, because this meeting you talked about last night, LeBron apparently stormed out of, right? Okay, so here's the latest. Here's what we're hearing. Peter's Out for Bernie.

Da-da-da-da-da. It appeared as of 3.37, the Lakers and the clippers were changing their tune um that says they're not leaving if everyone is also not leaving so like apparently there was some talk of them leaving but now they're saying that i guess they're not leaving unless everybody's leaving the games are postponed tonight but the the NBA has decided to resume the playoffs per Woj. That's Steve Wojohowski. Or not Steve Wojohowski. Steve Wojohowski's former Duke

Blue Dale. And then a little just a little locker room humor from my buddies in the chat. It's like dealing with a college girlfriend. Finds bad news loses her mind comes to her senses and comes asking but it got a chorus it got a chorus of the laughing crying emojis

and then then then thank you, Peter's for Bernie. Peter's out for Bernie. That's the kind of guy I say. And then. It always delivers. Always delivers. And then, and then they followed up with, Ah, hell, why didn't anybody tell me it was the fourth anniversary of Kaepernick taking a knee?

That isn't a coincidence. Dot, dot, dot. So, anyway. Everything's a conspiracy. So, we got a solidarity issue here i don't know i i'll have to get i have to dig more into it but what it's looking like is that the nba playoffs are going to continue and that um it seems as if though there is some defection from what was going on yesterday i I don't know that to be true, though. That might, again, by the time you hear this, that might not be the truth. Right. And also, I'd just like to point out, I've been driving all day, and my source is a Facebook group called Peter's Out for Burn.

So. Just so we're clear. Yeah, so basically last night, though, the Milwaukee Bucks bucks in protest of the jacob blake attempted murder uh apparently i think he's he ended up uh that what they say he's he's paralyzed yeah yeah and so in protest of that the bucks decided not to walk out. The Orlando Magic, their wayward opponent, said, we won't accept your forfeiture. And so they got on the horn with the AD of, or not the AD, the athletic director, the attorney general of Wisconsin.

And it's funny because a lot of people have been doing some good tweeting, some good reporting on this. Nathaniel Friedman, a bunch of other folks, David Roth. And it's funny because it's like now. God damn, I got something in my fucking eye. Now it looks like that. You hear a lot of people say, well, what more could of people saying well what more could the owners do what more could the owners do and you're talking about a class of people that leverage our tax

dollars to build their own stadiums so they can continue to get exorbitantly rich yeah those people have no pool at city hall or the governor's mansion you can tell yeah they're running tax fee free facilities just all that shit all that shit so um what about baseball the mlb yeah so that's the other part that's the other part that's happened and the wnba they're canceling i believe also the mls right major leagues major league soccer oh nice i liked that when they put out a statement that was like I believe also the MLS, right? Major League Soccer. Major League Soccer. Oh, nice. I liked that when they put out a statement that was like, the MLS has decided to forego the next couple of games or something like that.

One of the players retweeted it and was like, the MLS didn't decide shit like we did. Yeah. I love seeing that. Like, the sanctioning bodies and the owners, like, basically piggybacking on what the players are deciding and trying to get their like you know like sort of social justice credentials up because that's big business now oh yeah they they were acting swiftly to cover their asses the um wmba did you see them last night they like them girls

like made fucking shirts quickly. I saw that, yeah. With Jacob Blake's name on the front, and on the back, they had mapped out the seven bullet holes on the back of the T-shirt. Like, that is fucking brutal. Yeah. Holy Lord. Yeah, they ain't playing around.

No, fuck no, they ain't. And if anybody's vindicated in all this, it's got to be my man Kyrie Irving, who, for those keeping score at home, who, if you got to be my man Kyrie Irving, who, for those keeping score at home, who, if you don't know anything about Kyrie Irving, Kyrie Irving is my guy that took a lot of flack for just floating the idea that possibly the world's flat. Okay?

An idea that's gaining some steam in certain communities. I do have to agree with him in the sense that we are in the middle of an epistemological crisis. We are. So you may as well ask if there is a split. It's a more valid question than the vast majority of

questions. And that's all he was doing was just asking the questions. But Kyrie was talking about like, why the hell do we need these owners like we could like start our own league all this kind of stuff and everybody kind of shouted him down all this stuff so that's crazy kairi blah blah blah blah blah and while he was getting you know drugged by the media and all this kind of stuff he's paying wmba player salaries for them while they're out because of coronavirus and he's putting in all the work

you know what i mean he's like putting his actually putting his money his wealth into certain things that are worthwhile and saying that like basically the end result of this bubble is like it's putting us out it's putting us in harm's way yeah and they're doing this and it's going to be this big spectacle you know we get the we're just you know we're going to get the you know empty sort of language on the back of the jerseys and everything else nothing's going to change whatever and then you see this jacob blake gets shot he's paralyzed for the rest of his life hopefully not hopefully uh shot seven fucking times yeah um and it wasn't even that long ago. How long ago was it that one of the owners was caught? There was audio leaked of him talking, you know, to some young girl that he was probably molesting.

Who knows even how old she was about. I think you're talking about Les Wexner, the owner of Victoria's Secret. He was on Epstein's island no oh you're talking about you're like what i was joking you're talking about the clippers owner something yeah yeah yeah he was like he's dead as fuck now yeah like he didn't want black people at his games yeah yeah well he's like he's i think one of the things was he saw his um one of his girlfriends with magic johnson and said yeah he said he didn't want black people with aids at his like games or something he's also he was like like owned a bunch of like rental properties and was a slumlord in los angeles like just one of the truly awful people and in this. But yeah, I think he's dead now, right?

Didn't he die a few years ago? Yeah. Well, so getting back to this whole thing, what do you think is going to happen? Like this is not a strike as we conventionally understand it. That's kind of the irony of it. Because they're not demanding, they're not making a demand

in terms of their workplace. Work conditions, yeah. Work conditions. Have they released demands? I don't know. Have they told you? I haven't seen anything about any kind of demands.

All I know is like the bucks we're on the phone with. The thing is, we don't really know right now because everything's so tight. Right, right. I see, I see. So we can only speculate.

So we can only speculate. All right. Well, if we're speculating. Well, let's talk about this. I want to talk about this. And I don't want to like waste all of our content because we're going to talk about this with Samir from The Defector this weekend. But let's talk about this a little bit. this weekend, but let's talk about this a little bit.

Just the differences in the strikes and the boycotts and the everything. Well, it is. What is the semantics? It's like not, I mean, my mom couldn't tell you the difference between a boycott and a fucking strike. Is a boycott refusing to buy something?

I mean, traditionally, right? It's like voting up your dollars. A boycott is not related to labor right right like i mean it could be but it's not necessarily one that workers but they the news was using sports center all of it was using the boycott all even i've never seen anyone use the word strike i think why the and i saw a lot of people sort of implying that there was some vast conspiracy afoot, like in the media, to not call it a strike. But I kind of understand where it comes from, because it's not a example of, for example, when the communication workers of America or whatever go on strike every couple of years and not go in to work or the Teamsters or whoever. Like, that's kind of how we traditionally understand a strike. This had that in the sense that they weren't going to play, but there wasn't, as you said, a clear demand.

It had more of a political, it was, it seemed to be more of a protest it seemed to be like the kaepernick thing stepped up a notch like okay well we're just not going to play at all we're just going to hit you in the pockets if you don't leverage your political capital to do something about what's happening in the streets and so i think the term would be political strike but i don't know if the media is like that savvy enough to be able to parse out those things. So it might be that more so than like some sort of conspiracy afoot.

I doubt like the New York Times like really gives a shit one way or the other. I mean maybe. I don't know. I mean a lot of people saying that like in fairness work in that world and know that world better so maybe there's something to that. I just think that you know. I don't know. I mean, a lot of people saying that, like, in fairness, work in that world and know that world better, so maybe there's something to that. I just think that, you know.

I don't know anything about it. I just don't think we need to get that Woj's throat because he's calling it boycott versus strike. By Woj, you mean you. No, me. Oh, shit. Well, I mean, I don't know it's weird it's like i was kind of feeling very alienated last night thinking about it because on one hand it's unequivocally badass but on the other hand i

immediately see what we've been talking about the last few weeks which is this myth making and that's when it started to become like i don't know people were talking about a general strike and stuff i don't know i don't feel like that's really accurate it's not real well because it didn't happen it ain't gonna happen till you do it listen when i i tried to start a strike when I was working in the school system literally by calling up every teacher I know and saying,

hey, I heard we're going on strike. Did you hear that? And then it just created a buzz. Hey, did you hear we're going on strike? Did it work? No, it didn't work. Myth making.

But there are instances when myth making is very useful. Like what? I've got plenty of examples if you'd like to hear yeah please first of all um and you know here's the thing about some myths some myths the general contours are correct it's just the the players are not necessarily you know what i mean uh so for example that white people were created by dr yacob on an island somewhere that the general contours are correct in that assessment of that you know but i don't think it's so much that as like when people call Dolly a feminist or when people call Bernie a communist or something.

That's what I mean. Yeah. Does that make sense? That's the myth making. And I know that the myth making is not the right word for it, that that's actually referring to something else. But I don't know what else to call that. What is that when we do that as a left? Because we do it all the time.

Like what is the word for that? Clinging uh a fantastical just projection maybe projection manifestation is a tool that's a tool on the belt i don't agree i agree i think they call that the secret you remember that book the secret that said you could manifest like speak things into existence? I don't know. I think that we're at a... Make your case for why. Before we go any further.

Before I disagree with it. Maybe I need to hear why. Well, I would just say, just at a bare minimum breakdown, mantras matter. Things you tell yourself matter. And if you wake up every day and tell yourself that you're a piece of shit, I mean, that's... Suppose you are a piece of shit, though. Well, this is what I'm saying. Like, the things we...

I mean, we tell ourselves a lot of lies, for sure, and some of those are for survival, literally. But mantras matter, and, like, being able to... You know, anyone who's dug themselves out of depression could tell you that. Surely both of you are. Yeah, you're saying past tense. I've never dug myself out of depression. I continue to deal with it.

There's no past tense. I'll give you one example. I'll give you, I think, a good example of myth-making. A man lived in the belly of a whale for three days. Now, that seems silly to y'all. That seems like a silly example. I believe it literally, though. Well, I mean, totally believable. But, like, sort of the worldview that sprung off of stuff like that is sort of the prevailing one in all the wrong ways that is hegemonic now.

True. Good point. So, it's not unwarranted what you're saying. No, no, no. You're right. Both of you are right. Maybe by creating fantastical realities that don't yet exist and pretending like they do, one day they will become hegemonic. Yeah.

Right? Or that will become reality itself. We've been dealing with the metaphysical a lot lately. And I feel like this is part and parcel of that. Like, if you look at, I mean, there was a vast conspiracy, I think, when was Kennedy Nixon? What year was that?

60. 60? 1960. Yeah, there was a vast conspiracy started by a couple of evangelical preachers, Billy Graham being the most famous one of those. And these guys got a P.O. box in Kansas. And they were sending out these letters all over the country saying that if John Kennedy's elected, the Roman Church, the Pope, will actually be the de facto president of the

United States. Do you want to live under papal law? It was like the OG, like, creeping Sharia thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The OG like creeping Sharia thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like the guy that brought all that into, like the guy that was sort of the ringmaster of that was a guy named Norman Vincent Peale, who was like a not so super well-known evangelical preacher, even after his death. founded the philosophy called name it and claim it theology which was basically the secret which was basically you know any of these sort of like woo woo you know will stuff to being just by saying

it kind of thing yeah and it based it all on the scripture that says you know in the bible it says that we'll call those things that be not as though they were and sort of you know bring them into existence you know right so this is not like a novel concept or anything. But it's interesting because in this era of this, say it with me now. Epistemological crisis. That sort of thing gets purchased a lot more rapidly, whereas like, you know, before you'd have to, you know, gets purchased a lot more rapidly. Whereas before, you'd have to turn off your light in the bathroom,

sit in the mirror 10 times before it would show up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Any damn thing is true, really, is the thing. Yeah, I see. You're both right, in a way.

But we're wrong because. Don't ask me man I've been I'm a crank today No go for it I'm interested I have two switches It's crank and Usually like a kind of anger

That borders on optimism An anger that borders On optimism It has that in the fuel tank i don't know why i don't know uh i've been trying to come up with well to be totally honest with both of you what i've really been spending the last couple weeks trying to do is to make my own religion okay we know that i'm with it um but not literally and not as a bit either but more in the sense that like you have to have some kind of theology to explain why things are the way they are because for me it doesn't just work like a kind of scientific Marxism explanation. It works just for me, obviously,

but it doesn't work for everybody. And at the same time, like every, I've been sort of like running around the large mansion of religions and I'll open a door. Like this one doesn't look good. I don't like this one. You know,

and I look at another one. You're in the, you're in the WAP video. Yes, I am. I am. Looking in each each room kylie jenner checking it out got your big titties hanging out kind of just yeah there's a whore in this house it's me it's you it's terrence and so i've not found anything that really makes sense um but this is what i've got so far. This is the best I can come up with. So the thing about the world we live in at the moment, it's like it's not quite hell. It is hell, but it's not quite hell

because it feels like the bad thing that we all know is coming can never arrive, right? Which is, it doesn't feel like that bad thing has arrived yet it always feels like things are getting worse but at no point do you ever feel like you've crossed over the event horizon the great whore of babylon hasn't popped out of the lake of fire yet and says follow me that's what we're ready to go yes which honestly sounds pretty bitching but you're right no if that happened things would be a lot better i mean because then we would know i was thinking about this today on the way here actually i was like man like more so than any other time where we've made reaches, like as a Christian person or whatever.

This would be the time of wars and rumors of wars and disease and pestilence and earthquakes and storms in diverse places. This seems like, yeah, like the clouds could split open and the son of man could step out there and his white horse and come and set everything straight who would be shocked at this point and if that happened it'd be like the like the number four news story with how wild everything is they'd be covering the rnc instead yeah that's okay so back to this woman who who thinks we should go back to head of household voting. Oh, my God. Quick sidebar. The RNC was very lackluster, in my opinion. I mean, it was obviously insane and fascist and scary like it always is.

But this time it was like, I don't know. It just didn't really hit the same. It's so banal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's very clear that what is happening is the right is embracing this kind of right populism, however you want to define that, and prominent conservatives are just going...

I was thinking about this the other day. The reason why Bernie didn't live... Oh, Peter's out for Bernie. Don't tell Peter's out for Bernie. Sorry, sorry. The reason why Bernie didn't live or Peter's out for Bernie. Don't tell Peter's out for Bernie. Sorry. Sorry. The reason why Bernie

didn't win was quite literally probably because of just like six very powerful former Republicans who went to the Democratic Party and were like it's not come on. We can't have that.

We're homeless now after the Republicans kicked us out. Because, you know, like the whole never Trump thing created a schism in the Republicans. And they all had to either suck it up and go along with it. Or they've left like Bill Kristol and shit. Yeah, are you talking like? Colin Powell for his practical people that are powerful. Colin Powell, Bill Kristol, all of those people.

They've all gone to the Democratic Party now. And there was a really hilarious John Chait tweet the other day where he was like, why don't the moderate Republicans start their own party? And Jacob Bacharach, who's a friend of the show, pointed out, that party

already exists. It's the Democratic Party. Well, I don't understand why they don't start their own party. So that's the democratic party well i don't understand why they don't start their own party right so like that's the realignment um but that's that but it's been very but now i don't know right it's just been a very i didn't really watch any of either conventions no the highlights were bad enough yeah Yeah. I think everybody is is heeding the biblical admonition to watch and wait. And politics has become something that is like. I don't know what to say about it.

It's just boring. And everybody knows that we know that they're full of shit. But also, too, they all know that nobody in power is equipped to deal with what they themselves have unleashed and so they're just i think they're just trying to sort of like gird their loins until the storm passes and then yeah if if if you know all the legos are more or less still intact they're going to celebrate like how good they did with you know the pandemic and with the storms that are brewing and the wildfires and everything and if everything burns down then they're just going to retreat to their like lairs where they've like stockpiled

food and resources right backup plans well the so if they've either don't know what i don't know when you mean when you say that they don't know what they've unleashed, are you referring to... I know they know what they've unleashed, but what I'm saying is the fallout from it. Are you referring to the pandemic or just everything? Well, I mean just their complete retreat in governance and everything in terms of the pandemic, these natural disasters. I see what you're saying. Like police killings, the whole shit. i see what you're saying well the the the most concerning part about that though and again this is where the religious element comes in this is

fundamentally why i've been driven to this point it's because we don't seem to have any leverage or power we've pointed this out a lot before on the show, too. We don't seem to have any real power where we can do anything about it, right? We're powerless. I saw people wheeling a fake guillotine in front of Jeff Bezos' house, and that, to me, is the ultimate expression of impotence. Well, it's like politics has become like sex,

mostly theater. It's symbolism, yeah. It's just representation. But I don't know what you're saying is that by doing those things we could speak into existence like i don't know a kind of politics that would actually give rise to something that would i mean think about art some before great art is created someone has seen it that no one else has like the artist has to see something before it's created yeah like for example picasso just going and looking at what african artists were doing in

the 18th century yeah so you're right yes you're right but my point is you i would normally agree with you if it wasn't a guillotine which is a symbol of a past his pastiche i mean it's it's what it is is it's a recreation of past symbols from the past to sort of cosplay the past itself we know what i mean it doesn't have anything in it that points towards the future i would like to guillotine jeff bezos don't get me wrong here's the thing you don't really like knock people off like that anymore you know seems like that doesn't it's a little antiquated it seems like that's the world we don't live in

but at the same time how close can you even get to his house that's a great question he has to be so protected I was gonna say like I mean at what point would the cops intervene if you drug him out in his yard? Could you get his head off quick? The whole thing is, there's probably six gates to even get to the man.

You've got to jump past his robot dogs, his fleet of robot dogs. The gap between us and them is so physically, spiritually massive it's a grand canyon it's yeah it's that's that's that is what's that's even feels fantastical because we can't even um it's very difficult to even grasp reality reality is crazier than most of our fantasies at this point well this is kind of again this is where this is where i've been struggling lately so there seems to be a massive dissonance between how you are told things really are and how things actually are does that make sense you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah there's just there's a gulf between those two things yeah and and at all times like i don't feel like that was ever the case say 500 years ago the relate if you're a serf your relationship to your feudal lord is very plain

and obvious everybody knows what's going on i'm the subject you're the lord you know now it is like we know that jeff bezos is above us some somewhere somehow but it can never really be fully articulated and also we just aren't sure what to do about it so we kind of use these symbols that like i said sort of recreate the past. Maybe they're good. Maybe they're bad. I have no idea. Well, you're the historian. I barely know what's happened in the past. The only thing I have is the future, baby.

This is what I'm... I'm telling you, we've got to dive more into it, though. I'm listening to blowback on the way here. I was like, man, I am so... There's so many things that i know just intellectually oh this was bad this is but i have no idea exactly how bad one but two the conditions that started way before i was even here that set the tone for all this stuff yeah and so that's

what you gotta know well it's just like the postal service a lot scratch under that. It's like, well, actually, this, you know, this is being blamed on Trump, but like so many things. But this started way back here. There's so many things that we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg of. And we are unable in some cases or unwilling to wrap our heads fully around the situation we're in. Yeah. Yeah. And I think most of it is we're unable to like we just cannot process we are short-circuiting well the the if you're a religious

in some way it would be impossible to escape the notion that we really haven't escape the notion that we really haven't arrived at hell yet because it doesn't seem like we can ever get there i mean i keep coming back to this idea i've said it a few times already i've been thinking about hell a lot i've been thinking about if you're going through hell i thought you were gonna say if you want to get to heaven, you got to raise a little hell. That too. I feel like, well, I don't know, but maybe people would disagree. I mean, I guess I could conceivably see somebody saying like, no, I live in hell already.

Definitely. Yeah. I don't know. So this is strictly for my. Well, 2020 is not the year to say Well it can't get any worse Well that's the thing Is it hell if it keeps getting worse Or is that the definition of hell

Well supposedly there are levels of hell right I don't know We're just continuing down the elevator The hell-evator if you will Good one Jesus Christ That's where we're at. I think that's a ride at Dollywood, in fact.

Good one, man. The elevator. I just found out the other day that they took out White Lightning. I guess, was that like the... Oh, like the Moonshine ride? The Moonshine ride. Man, that shit was so fucking scary. I was like one of the first riders of that.

I was there the first day they opened it up to the public. Man, now, who's going to buy that? And I was. I was one of the first riders of that. I was there the first day they opened it up to the public. Nah, nah. Who's going to buy that? And I was. I was. I was like just barely tall enough to ride it. Oh, Lord. And I was like, I ain't doing this shit again.

I did it four more times. Anyway. Well, anyways. Well, where have you come to on your spiritual journey? The best I can come to is this all right you've grown a beard yeah it's true you're becoming more like jesus i'm growing a beard and a mullet so you gotta lean into an aesthetic you gotta take the pose and hope the pose takes hold i think that um my point is this um and i don't know if I'm fully in agreement with this yet, if I'm fully wedded to it yet.

We won't hold you to anything you ever say, Terrence. We wouldn't do that to you. Well, I think this is my larger point. If you are going to be someone in the next couple of years who really, truly wants to change change the world you have to actually have conviction and the only way that you can fully resolve this contradiction that i was mentioning earlier of the sort of madness of reality the inability to determine what's real and what you're being told is actually real the only way you can do that is by logging off, is by getting off the internet entirely.

I think this, and like, and I think that that might be the only thing that, that could potentially. We need to restart, reset before the internet was created. Yeah. I think this might be it.

Well, listen, listen, I, I, reset before the internet was created yeah i think this might be it well listen listen i i you might be on to something because again listen the blowback the year's 1990 and to sell the gulf war do you remember like the part where they bring the kuwaiti uh ambassador's daughter yeah to spin this whole bullshit tale you could completely lie you could never do that now like that would be fit like somebody would like point that out on twitter and figure that out it probably wouldn't matter as much now they probably still sell the war the same way right right you know what i mean right but like they probably wouldn't try something that brazen it's true well i think the country is probably more bloodthirsty at that time like if maybe but like my point being, to your point,

is like, if we went back to a pre-internet age, that might be the one thing that could snap us out of the epistemological crisis. I think that that's, okay, I know that this is a hack thing. I could see that up front. I understand how crazy I sound, but if we are in an epistemological crisis, and we are, if we're assuming that, then the only way to understand reality is to remove it's possible that the internet may actually be a barrier.

And I'm saying this under full awareness that my job and income is entirely dependent upon the internet. As are most peoples right now. Yeah. But that's even more why we have to disassemble. Yeah. I mean. Now it's a labor issue.

Honestly, you're not wrong. This is an organizing tool. I think what I'm trying to say here... If we can boycott the internet. What I'm trying to say here is that every religion starts with a rearranging and repositioning of your relationship to reality. reality so for example the early christians were basically saying you know we don't have to go through this process of uh going to the oracle these you know these pagan process your relationship to god is not mediated through patronage and clientage to priests and whoever you can just go straight to the source and further exactly and furthermore well but then you know it grew into this thing of uh

oh but we still need preachers well yeah get paid but yeah at the very beginning it was remove one more barrier to people's sort of relationship to reality and at that time it was go straight to the people um you know and again you don't have to go through the media the medium of yeah the pagan preacher classes or whatever the fuck they were oracles rituals all that but i think that was basically it rituals and so you know you could go directly to the people and say you can have a political and religious praxis they didn't use that word but they said you can do this on your own with each other and i think that is how every religion gets its basis and i'm saying that right now the left's problem seems to be that we can't tell when society is ripe for any kind of change

like i'm saying this in the wake of the bernie thing we seem to have misread the room we we misread circumstances and therefore the we have to start looking at why that was the case could it be because we're all stupid? I don't think so. Like, we all seem to be pretty intelligent, smart people. To be fair, some of us. I'm pointing at myself. You can't see that.

So you have to start asking why. How do we understand reality? What are the mediums through which it gets to our brains? Well, there are like... I don't want to interrupt you because i don't know where you're going no that's that's kind of it i don't even know if i'm fully wedded to it but it's at some point all we have are things that we can see hear touch smell yeah uh and then like for lack of a better word data and like to use the bernie example like he raised more money than any of

us ever thought possible from us like you know what i mean like there was clear data there yeah to support what we thought um and in a lot of ways it still feels dare i say a little hoodwinked you know what i mean it doesn't it it's not like it doesn't feel like oh we're like we lost the championship game and we were robbed. Well, that's true. That's true what you're saying. It feels like, okay, well, this was a very clear reality three, four months ago, whatever it was. How long ago was it?

I don't even know. Fuck. Whatever it was. But somewhere we've like- That was in 2014. Somewhere we had to come to terms with the fact that, well, all that's out the window. But like what actually did happen to change it? It's very difficult to break it down.

So when we are operating logically with like very what seems to be I mean, maybe he just lied about all the money he was raising. You know, how do we know? Well, that's what I was going to say. It's like if somebody had the fundraising apparatus of Bernie, raised all the money he did, was polling like he did, and all this stuff. And I'm talking, I mean, I understand there was a lot of rat fucking and, you know, DNC chicanery and stuff, but you would have called that guy the favorite.

Not this shit. and, you know, D&C Chicanery and stuff, but you would have called that guy the favorite. I mean, he was the most popular politician in America for about five years running. Yeah. I mean, and you're exactly right. I think the point I'm making here is that what happens is all of that data may be true, but it's only true for us, and we only see it. Precisely because of the nature of the system in which we are engaging to learn those facts. So the algorithms and et cetera are

tailored in such a way that you only get information projected back at you that reinforces how you see the world. And therefore, if you think Bernie is doing good, you're going to keep seeing information that says that Bernie is doing good. And it will just keep leading you down blind alleys. I mean, I don't actually know what it would actually look like or be like to actually even completely log off. But I'm just saying...

I'm going to be the left version of... So when I was working at the Clinton Foundation, my boss looked at me one day and said, for eight years, what was Martin Sheen's character in West Wing? What's his name? President? Dude, it's on the tip of my tongue.

President. What is the fuck? What's... Goddamn, what's his name in West Wing? I want to say like Judd or Jed Plampett or no? Jed Clampett. President Jed Clampett.

Poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed then became President of the United States. It's moved away from here to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Josiah Bartlett. Josiah Bartlett. Yeah.

Josiah Bartlett. My name is Josiah Bartlett. They messed up not casting him as like a Kevin Spacey style southerner. Joe put the dog on him. Joe put the dog on him. Yeah, but it said that, yeah, Jed Bartlett was my president for eight years i'm going to retreat into that and say for eight if trump one's gonna say for eight years bernie sanders was my president yeah well i so i actually have an example of recently that happened this past week

where i was totally jarred out of my internet reality into a different one and this is what happened this is so relevant please i i'm fascinated with stories like this because it's happened to me before oh yeah that's what happened to me when i got fired it was a class it was like this gap in like internet discourse in reality it's just like oh fuck i did the thing huh i went too far down that fucking hallway flew right into the sun right into it uh so this will happen so i come i i was at the lake for a couple days um and i get back and so i my phone was dead most of the time i was there but and so i was trying to like rapidly catch up on shit that's going on okay obviously context obviously i'm a sex educator literally tonight my sex ed collective is doing a live stream on abortion access some abortion doulas like i think that i'm plugged in

to the matrix of like reproductive care la la la and enough to know enough to not be surprised when i came back to the timeline to see that a bunch of black women who have worked for planned parenthood were ousting planned parenthood as totally sexist and racist not shocked at all like all these fucking non-profits you know and i've and i've heard plenty of shit about planned parenthood they're like the walmart of reproductive rights anyway you know they like get all the money whatever yeah um so i'm digging into that and seeing like people that i know who've worked for them share their experiences and i'm like you know sucking this up put it in the fucking bay and this is exactly what i want the reckoning of these non-profits these motherfuckers so to look for more i just swallowed fucking part of my mask

to find more of this i go to the twitter search into the trending and type in planned parenthood because i want to see more i think oh this is a big story that's broke. There's going to be a lot of it. Guess what I find on the whole, everything that comes up is about baby murder. And I'm just immediately shoveled in to multiple pictures of like people stabbing babies and shit.

I like the way it's like abortion stops heartbeats. It's like, well, I hope so. Anyway, it's just all this crazy crazy Planned Parenthood stuff. I saw a part of Twitter I had never even seen before. Like right wing Twitter. I've not been

in that belly before. It's where I was raised. It was such... I was born into it. Well, I was so jarred, I immediately just started reporting posts. Just going down, I'm like, reporting posts? Everybody's dealing with this differently. Tanya's become a cop. I'm literally, I just started panicking.

And then I sit the phone down and I was just like, that all happened so quickly. I feel so upset. My stomach hurt. Like, I just like, I just like felt like I was caught up in a Twitter tornado. It all happened so quickly. I feel so upset. My stomach hurt. Like, I just like, I just like felt like I was caught up in a Twitter tornado. It all happened so quickly. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It's just like, and that felt like me like somehow skipping out of my algorithm and tripping.

Hitting into another stream of it. Who knew? Who knew that there are people just like posting pictures of babies being murdered i had no idea and i'm over here literally running abortion doula live streams and it just it's like i've gotten far enough away to not even realize how important this is it's just like terrifying well those facebook groups are always fascinating. Those people really have normalized the degree of violence that's insane. They'll just pass around just the most gory. They're like 16-year-olds watching Rotten.com.

You know what I mean? But they have a religious message. College humor. Yeah. But, no, you're right. And I kind of saw a similar thing happen with this general strike thing. And with, I mean, I've just seen it happen with pretty much everything. And I don't know, the sad thing about this is that, like, you can say that this is a problem

and that this is one thing that just keeps making us run around in circles and we may not know it. one thing that just keeps making us run around in circles and we may not know it, but there's a totally different thing. Um, when it comes to actually doing anything about it, because you can't actually log off and you can't tell everybody too, cause they're not going to, you're never going to log off.

No one is ever going to log off. And like, and furthermore, the day and age when you could control the minds of like thousands of people and be like, all right, if you want to make a sacrifice to this movement, you have to do this. With info commercials. Those days are over. Those days are over. So like, you're not going to be able to do anything about it.

A lot of this feels like butterfly effect stuff. Don't you think? It's like, what little thing is isn't there just one little thing we could do to like throw it all off or something just something the adjustment like the adjustment bureau well i'll tell you this i'll tell you how i've handled all this i've regressed into childhood um the other day i was i had this warm feeling come over me it wasn't nostalgia even like i know what nostalgia feels like nostalgia is like oh yeah it'd be cool to play super mario three or whatever again now this was like i felt a warmth that held me tightly uh-huh and that

warmth was i'm walking to pizza hut i'm nine years old and i just read gary paulson's hatchet and i got a certificate for a free personal pan pizza for having red hatchet yeah i remember it and i walked in there and i just remember biting into that cheesy little goop and thinking man this is it this is the high water market live and you know what i did the other day? I ordered me a personal pan pizza from Pizza Hut to try to feel that again. Wow. I haven't eaten Pizza Hut. Well, you shouldn't eat Pizza Hut after you turn 30, but... Since you've lived here.

You haven't eaten it since you've lived here. I haven't since I lived in Montserrat. Man, it must have been nine months since the last time I ate Pizza Hut. We were once sitting on Lakeside and I said, Tom, what's the number to Pizza Hut? And you did know it by heart. And you knew it.

And you were offended that I asked you, yet you did know it. Because I know you did. It's one of those things I'll never forget. But also, too, the other thing about the Pizza Hut thing is, man, Pizza Hut had a real stranglehold on advertising in the 90s.

Fucking Mikkel Gorbachev was in a Pizza Hut commercial. Yeah, that's true. It was in, you know, Bill and Ted. It was everywhere. Speaking of warmth, somewhat some bizarre warmth nostalgia. Impactful. A couple, a few days ago,

on my way home from the lake, I was sitting out in front of a sushi place. Just cramming sushi down in my car uh-huh i bought you yeah and uh a guy walked by and it felt like a time warp because let me let me back up it's been at least 20 years do either of you know the the year that dale earnhardt died like 2000 yeah 20 exactly okay I was like it has to be about 20 years yeah because I was in high school I remember a lot of the fallout multiple friends families went into mourning we canceled softball games I remember I remember the fallout

a man walked across in front of us we had just we had pulled into the parking lot and saw a huge three on the side of a car. And I was like, man, still hanging on. Love that. Love to see a three. The shadow of the intimidator looms large. Yeah, 20 years later. And then the man who had to be walking to that blazer walked in front of the car

and he had a mask on with a three on it. Now, who could have ever predicted that 20 years after Dale's fateful turn into that wall, there would be a pandemic and a fan 20 years later would have a fucking three

on his face mask. Why are they making face masks with Dale Earnhardt three on? It's a PSA with the ghost of Dale Earnhardt. And you know how when Dale Earnhardt 3 on. It's a PSA with the ghost of Dale Earnhardt. And you know how when Dale Earnhardt died, there was a big debate in NASCAR about roll cages? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was like, you know, in 2000, I wish I'd had a roll cage, you know? Now I'm not here. Do you want to be like me? It's like the ghost of Dale Earnhardt telling everybody to wear a mask because the mask is the 2020 version of the roll cage. Right, you're right. Dale Earnhardt telling everybody to wear a mask because the mask is the 2020 version of the roll cage. Right. You're right. It was just so wild to me to see

Dale III on a fucking mask. 20 years after. For that to happen, a number of things had to line up. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's just like... Dale Earnhardt, one, had to have been born. He had to die. He had to have become a he had to die he had to have

become a professional nascar racer and then we would have had to at some juncture had to have happened with him and then we get 20 years later we get a a global health and then a bee flies into his car and he turns the wrong way. Yeah. Why did he do? What did happen? Do we know? I don't know, man. I don't want to relitigate it. No, I don't want to go there.

But I don't know if God needed a driver. Doesn't that seem so wild? God needed a driver. That has been plastered on the back of cars. God needed a driver. I guess God needed a driver. Three with angel of cars god needed a driver three with angel wings my favorite is when you see the letter three spray painted on like a shopping buggy shopping cart or have you ever seen the a three spray painted on the back of a wheelchair yes oh it's good oh yeah i hope that when if and when one of us dies someone mythologizes it

someone mythologizes it by saying god needed a patreon god god needed a patreon to subscribe yes god needed some content god needed a little chit chat God needed a tarot reader That was me It is pretty incredible to think about Because you think about how long Someone's legacy will last You assume that a sports figure's

Legacy may not last that long Especially a NASCAR driver But Some people transcend the game It's comforting to know That at the very least, as a NASCAR driver, you can get at the very least 20 years out of it.

But we know that it's going to be more than just 20 years. Oh, we know. We know. Yeah, there's a handful that will live forever. I just could not. I was so shook by the image of that face mask. Yeah. I think it's a good sign.

Maybe that we are hanging on to history. I think the big question is what should our relationship be to history? How do we know the lessons of it, apply the lessons of it, but not fall into pastiche and nostalgia and all those things? Chart our own course, but also be reverent of it and take comfort in it occasionally. actually take in what we need to take in without going falling into terrible depression about our inability to change anything i'm just going to go ahead and tell you something we're going to have to adopt the stiff upper lip there's no two ways about have we not already i feel pretty goddamn stiff i'm gonna tell you listen if if the plane is going down, okay, and there's a goddamn string section playing... 311.

Janie's got a gun or something, yeah. Oh, God. Guess what? Sublime string quartet. You still have to keep a stiff upper lip. I'm sorry, that's just the reality. I don't know. These are all the questions that you just outlined

maybe if you could go over them again he needs to write them down for his manifesto I was just saying the way all the questions that you just outlined are the ones I've been struggling with how do you chart a path

knowing all of those various factors and furthermore it's not just charting a path. How do you actually get people to walk on it? Yeah. How do you get people to follow you down the path? You want me to tell you the weird thing for me that I've been wrestling with is this idea of,

so every generation thinks they're going to be like the history-defining generation that's going to turn this thing around. Right. Did we ever think that? I mean, at some juncture, we did. I mean, when Bernie was viable, we all thought that. We had hope. Yeah, that's right.

We were like, okay, he's our compromise candidate. Here we go. He's our compromise.. Here we go. He's our compromise. Which is a funny, another funny statement. Yeah. Bernie's the compromise and people in power are like,

okay. Whatever you say, bitch. Also, also, also, part of that whole he's the compromise candidate is just our inability to get excited about anything.

We have to keep like an ironic detachment from everything we're even excited about lest we not, we look like eager, be eager, earnest. We tell you i don't i love fun well that is i'm happy to be eager i'm eager beaver dumb bitch uh happy but yeah well one thing i've been wrestling with is this idea of like how do like I don't want to be the crank next generation liberal that comes

to the people that were sitting where we are now and says y'all think you're going to do something but here vote for mayor vote for Pete Buttigieg you know what I mean yeah that's a nightmare I have of being the person that's telling me now to vote for Joe Biden

vote for Chelsea Clinton listen voteelsea she's not perfect okay but there is going to be a lot of suffering like like that's another thing on the blowback we just hear madeline albright just say that yeah we're fine with like basically torching 500 000 iraqi school children we think that price is worth it yeah and yet we have people telling us vote us vote for Joe Biden because it's going to it's going to curb a lot of suffering. Shut the fuck up. That's just not even true at all. That has never been true.

It's just like it's nicer aesthetics. Call it that and say, like, you should vote for that because I don't know. Shit, guys. Did you hear Biden this week said week said well if i was president i'd be in wisconsin right now and so of course the reporter said well you're running for president why aren't you in wisconsin right now he said well i'll have to keep thinking on it if i'm gonna go well hillary clinton also took her sweet ass time thinking about that too wait he's talking about the jacob blake and the protest yeah yeah

yeah about what just popped off so i meant to i meant to cover this earlier biden is selling hand sanitizer with his covid 19 plan printed on it oh shut the fuck up shut the fuck up check this out he's printing a bottle of hand sanitizer with his-19 plan printed on it in the style of the Dr. Bronner label. Oh, my God. And so it says. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I want to record this sound.

Wait. And so on it, it says, it has that stupid fucking Biden slogan. It says, build back better. That's what it says on it. That's a Biden slogan? I hate to break it to Biden, but he'd be better off talking about Muhammad's relationship to Mohandas Gandhi

and Aristotle. Build back better. Build back better, man. I hadn't even heard that yet. That is so bad. It's so bad uh well luckily for you guys um six disaffected republicans peeled off from the republican party a few years ago and that's how we come and now they're running the Republican, Democratic Party. Basically, Bill Kristol, Colin Powell.

Jennifer Rubin. J. Rubin blogger. Jennifer Rubin, Brett Stevens. Can't forget about J. Rubin blogger. Brett Stevens. Yeah. Well, anyways, this has come to the end of this show,

and I don't think we've answered a single one of the questions we've put out there. You know what? We're philosophers. Jesus Christ, when he was going to his death, he said, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? That's one, not a declaration of faith, and two, he went out on a question. We ain't better than him.

You're right It is though To Terrence's Theory here It is nice to be offline And in person with you guys Seriously Feels a lot better than Zoom Doom

I'm so sick of recording Over fucking Hangouts Yeah I'm so sick of recording over fucking Hangouts. Yeah. I'm sick of it. But this is the world we live in, and you just kind of, as Tom said, have to develop a stiff upper lip, I guess.

That's it, man. Or a stiff something. So without further ado, let's close this one down I don't know what the deal is with the striking athletes but if you want to know more you're going to have to go to your local

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Who roasted it? Michella, Paulina Everybody's like you're wearing your own It's that good I've never worn it But I was I didn't have my cell phone on me Unfortunately but I was in line at the post office The other day and there was a

Tribbley shirt in front of me in the line At Whitesburg post office Who was day and there was a trivoli shirt in front of me in the line at whitesburg post office who was it it was matt oh but but just i mean it was trivoli's was in the fucking post office and he finally did turn around and notice me and i said nice shirt but i was gonna snap a picture but i didn't have my phone on me it is a good one so you can get yours what is it trivoli workers party at big cartel.com and uh big cartel we'll even drop the sleeves for you if you want crop it i totally forgot to our buddy derrick trillionaire i totally i meant to send him a joke shirt like with the sleeves cut off because he made a joke about cutting the sleeves off before we sent it and i meant to send him like

a replacement one just like you know hey, here's your real shirt. I was just doing that for the LOLs and I forgot to send a replacement shirt. Derek's been walking around for a year with a cut-off sleeve shirt. It looks good on him. I thought it looked good. He's a firefighter. He can pull it off. That's right.

That's right. I've been bit no less than 40 or 50 times, so I think it's time. Well, we took this. We suffered through this. For Tom. For my encephalopathy. There's mosquitoes with encephalopathy in like Caledonia or something. Yeah,

equine... Oh shit, I forgot about that. I don't know. God, now I'm fucked up. I've been having weird headaches and I've been sitting out getting eaten by mosquitoes in the horse capital of the world. Great. Oh, fucking A.

All right. Excellent. All right. Well, we'll see you next time if we're not dead. Bye. Bye.