Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 198: Waiting For Gadot

Episode Date: May 13, 2021

Woke stocks, Liz Cheney, the geriatric coup, Kentucky continues to mooch off of New Jersey, and finally Palestine Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Are you guys ready to normalize not bringing up a relatable story about yourself when someone is telling you something about themselves and just listen? Are you ready to do that? That was one of the weirder tweets I've ever seen. How do you have a conversation? I've been kind of... We should... Go ahead.

Now we're going to know you. Go ahead. I was just going to say I've been kind of go ahead now we're gonna know you go ahead i i just gonna say i've been kind of um waiting for this particular woke thing to come up uh you know because you've been just lying in wait for the first time somebody just brings up the mechanics of a good conversation is being problematic you've've been playing woke stocks? Yeah, I've been playing woke stocks. What are you bearish and bullish about? What's going to be a cancelable offense soon that's not yet a cancelable offense? offense soon that's not yet a cancelable offense?

Something that isn't yet a cancelable offense, but will be soon. Well, okay, so then let's pretend that I'm the money

guy. Isn't that his name? He's got dollar bills on his blazer. Matthew Les leska are you talking about the commercials i guess yeah yeah the free money guy yeah okay um my thinking on this was like okay so like if you're in a conversation with somebody and you aren't really sure what the fuck to say and you're just trying to keep things humming along you're like oh yeah yeah no my father-in-law had hemorrhoids or something you know what i mean like you you're trying you just you're just throwing shit out there because you

want to make them think that you're listening yeah um but i for a while, have noticed, uh, I've taken note. I've been paying close attention to what people do and do not like in conversation. And I knew that one was coming. I knew that one was coming down the pike. So, in that vein, um, what do you, what do you guys think? Like, I'm trying, I'm trying to think here. Of you mean, like, a soon-to-be-cancellable offense? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Woke stocks. Before we get too far down this road, I like when I'm talking to somebody and I'm saying, telling them something, and then they tell me a similar thing that happened to them and how they worked through it. I don't get this one. Well.

That's why I'm coming to you for counsel, is for you to tell me a relatable story about your own experience with this thing. Well, I can say I definitely can see where people who monopolize on a conversation and just make everything about them but like you know it's like social punishment taking up we call this in social justice spaces taking up space aaron yes exactly taking up space like if someone says like i mean to the extreme if someone says like their dad just died you know like or their mom or something, and trying to, like, you know, express, like, grief, and, like, you're there to, like, comfort them, and, like, shut the fuck up.

If you're, like, yeah, you know, like, my dad died, like, 12 years ago, or, like, my dog died, or, like, you know what I mean? Like, I know how it, like, it's, if you're, like, invading, like, that space, like, I could see that, but I don't, i don't understand how this is like an offensible cancelable like thing you know yeah i see what you're saying about like yeah somebody comes to you and says um i've just been diagnosed with stage four uh inoperable bone cancer and then the first thing you do is talk about well you know i uh had a planter's wart removed three years ago and it was a harrowing experience and da da da da yeah yeah yeah i think i think what you're saying is like the devil is in like the severity of the thing you know what i

mean exactly if somebody's telling you something heavy, maybe just listen for a while. Yeah, just don't... If somebody's coming to you for advice, I think that's the venue where you say, okay, now it's time for this relatable story. That's when my father was murdered by 18 thugs in a back alley, and then you jump in and say, oh, yeah, yeah, I knew a guy that happened to you once. you jump in and say oh yeah yeah i knew a guy that happened to you once you'd be like yo i just watched this movie the other day like this dude fought 15 guys i saw a movie where mark walberg killed a guy like kind of like the guy that murdered your dad

that is the best. Just like, yeah, somebody tells you something just like dead fucking serious, and then you like, one, you make it about yourself, but two, you just like try to relate it to something like very insignificant. Yeah, it's something that's like not even real, like a movie. Right. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, i've been trying this whole time i mean like looking somebody in the eyes when you speak to them will probably be a cancelable

offense but then again like looking away when you're speaking them will also perhaps be a cancelable offense interesting i don't know where i don't know where i'd place my money on that one what about handshakes because like during covid like for over a year like you know like people were discouraged from like like touching each other like being close like what if now it's like seen as like a anti-social to not uh shake one's hand upon meeting them or or you're looked at as like a disease vector because you are a hand shaker you know what i mean i i for me i think that it'll be considered masculine toxic masculinity to shake hands i mean let's get toxic mask this is easy guys come on what about wearing a mask what about what like what if you just what about

wearing a mask like if you decide to wear a mask like like post-covid like just for the rest of i don't know like your life or whatever um well according to nine-tenths of the internet the pandemic is not over and if you even suggest that the vast majority of people in this country are just not even treating it as if it's still going on you are basically telling people to go out into the world and spread the virus so yeah yeah well the cdc said that uh mask wearing is like it's not mandatory anymore so yeah that's what they said about condom usage too yeah well i'm i mean filling up a gas bag with gasoline could be considered a cancelable offense that shit is just so what what is the what is the basis for the gas shortage thing

did that have something to do with the palestinian israeli thing or or something totally different because they don't have gas there they don't have oil you know they don't have a lot of things i mean i'm sure that most people don't know that, but, you know. I think it was, I think it was like a hack or something on like a, I don't know, like the pipeline. And apparently, I don't know, like people were, you know how people were at the beginning of the pandemic were like hoarding toilet paper and all this shit? Like, yeah, i think it was just like a panic thing where people but there were gas stations like in my state in atlanta that didn't have gas so like it was a legit thing but people were just like freaking out and i think there was a ransom actually uh it was a colonial like something pipelines or something

and uh there was a ransom but i guess it like worked out biden did a whole speech on it today so i don't know so it's all it's all settled then though yeah i mean there's no there's no gas shortage there's no like yeah i don't think so i saw i drove past a gas station and people weren't like i heard i heard in a news report that people were fighting over like hoarding gas so yeah i think it's like i think it's good now but any veteran of an eastern kentucky winter will tell you that that usually these things are much to do about nothing you go and you buy bread and milk and eggs and the whole shit and then like two days later all the snow melts off and you're like man i i probably could have powered through this with just what i had but you know you you think that's y'all think that's like characteristic

of like mass consumption and consumerism in america or it's just like i don't know like more of an innate thing because i don't know if if like when the pandemic happened like my mom uh or even like a blackout my mom always has candles right like she's always she's not a prepper but she's always like ready you know and i don't know if i mean definitely people hoarding toilet paper and like gas and shit is insane but i don't know toilet paper and like gas and shit is insane but i don't um what did y'all's parents uh prep for y2k no no i don't think we did no y'all didn't take the bait on that we took the bait on that we in fact behind our house right now where i grew up there's a 55 gallon drum full of 21 year old kerosene and I wonder how much like loss is in that you know I mean like how much just evaporated or whatever it doesn't still work what's the shelf life on kerosene what did people think was gonna happen i don't even understand well i think well i forget you're you were

a wee talk when that all that happened like 10 basically it correct me if i'm wrong terrence wasn't it didn't have something to do with like when they were writing all these computer codes or something they didn't account for the rollover from the 1900s to the 2000s and for some reason that was going to like shut down the global everything yeah yeah i think that that's exactly what it was like computers would not be able to compute the number 2000 or something yeah so we pulled all of our money out of the banks we uh we didn't throw throw any milk jugs away the whole year. Actually, for two or three years before that. Under our trailer was rows and rows and rows and rows of gallons of water that were stored up for a rainy day all right are there people that prep for a good time people that prep for something that's not bad but like they've got a bunker full of dildos and ecstasy cupcakes yeah i think y2k too yeah i think oh it wasn't people got on some free love shit Yeah I see It could have gone either way

I think a lot of people do that anyway Well fuck it if we're all going to die Let's just Have a good time Do a little revelry Did Biden pay the ransom? I mean I think it was pretty funny

As Biden reversed the bush era policy of not negotiating with terrorists he just it's just like fuck it that's the path of least resistance and it's just gonna lead to world peace because he's such a cunt uh i don't uh nah i don't think that like eddie would pay the ransom the company or biden but somehow it's been resolved like i don't know that's that's what makes me wonder if they just paid it on the slime where it's like we gotta take care of guys we back them down they give them a briefcase that you open it and gold shines up in their face. Yeah, you got to beat them with a park bench. Right.

Or maybe it's the 21st century version and Biden's like, give me the phone, give me the phone. And he just talks real tough and then he takes it to the corner and says, what's that Venmo? Give me your app. Listen here, you son of a bitch, what's your cash app? I'll send it to you just this one time. Wow. Wow. But it kind of sucks to think that, like, you would have the capacity to, like, halt, like, you know, like, gasoline distribution and fuel, whatever.

And you would only just get the ransom and just be like, all right, I'm good. Right. And, like, leave. You know? We can't even get a revolution started. We can't motherfuckers shut down the U.S. gas industry demanding money on fucking cash apps. It is pretty funny.

Like, there's no coordinated political action. It's just everybody's trying to catch a, you know, get a buck. It's like everybody's trying to get a buck. Well, the issue is especially resonant now. This is the Republicans' take on it. People are eager to hit the road after more than a year of pandemic lockdown. So they really did have to get that thing resolved, I guess. Yeah, I guess Kamala Harris had to meet someone in a park at 8.03 p.m. In a trench coat.

Suitcase full of unmarked bills. God damn. Well, what a choke point. You know, everybody's like jonesing to hit the road and get out there, what a choke point you know everybody's like jonesing to hit the road and get out there and you just like fumble the potential to foment a rebellion by just padding your own pockets man what a shame oh man like it's like a like anonymous right like i don't know like i don't i don't know anything about hacking i don't know anything about hacking. I don't know anything about that shit.

But some of the shit they've done is impressive. It's like, why don't you just erase everyone's debt? Is that possible? Right. Why don't you, I don't know. Instead of hacking Twitter accounts and shit, man. Kamala Harris shows up in the park with Mark Bills and a guy in a Guy Fawkes mask. Hawks. Sitting at either end of a park bench

between them yeah god damn it i mean yeah i guess there was people i mean you mentioned it earlier and there was people like panic buying gasoline and you saw these pictures of people filling plastic bags with gasoline. And I don't know, man. Man, you could put a lot of things in a plastic bag. I mean, even water. You know what I mean? Like, but gasoline.

I mean, that is interesting. An interesting question, though. Like, what is that impulse? Like, do you guys know who Philip Bump is? leave i mean that is interesting an interesting question though like what is that impulse like do you guys know who philip bump is philip bump he's a fucking nerd who works for the washington post he's just some reporter who's you know basically kind of like a chris eliza type the kind you know the kind of like i feel like there's like two kinds of reporters there's like a why is this happening and then there's a why is this happening like on an even even more um like

a chris hayes like uh which i think is literally like the name of his podcast yeah or something like that yeah yeah it's like the guys that are asking it and you know they're too smart to be asking and then the guys that are asking it because you know they're too smart to be asking and then the guys that are asking it because they're really they're actually like yeah so listen philip bump are two of them but there's the gas shortage is another recent example of americans making things worse for one another uh philip bump needs thinks we all need to come together, get along, not panic by. But then he goes off on this tangent about how we saw this in the pandemic, early days of the pandemic, how people were buying up all these masks and hand sanitizer. And it is kind of an interesting question.

Like, why are we like this? question like why i mean why are america like why are we like this like is it because we've never really experienced any kind of resource deprivation like that since the 70s you know i mean yeah maybe yeah and maybe because like uh you know the state like in times of like crisis uh is not designed to provide for people you know but instead people rely on like you know uh private entities and commodities to like uh get necessities in like you know situations where people can die you know so uh i don't know it's a it's definitely like pathological i think right right well well i mean we just i mean i don't know i think uh two i think it's like uh i don't even know where i was gonna to go with that. Strike F. Strike F in the minutes.

This is above our class. We tried to hypothesize. So like, why? Why? I was going to make some grander point. I was like, I can't even walk that out. I'm so fucking dumb. Probably watch an Adam Curtis documentary and figure that out.

That's where I was going to go with that. I was like, I just did that too much. Well, if, I mean, you know, we beat ourselves up for having a brain fart every now and then, but, you know, according to 124 retired generals and admirals, Biden is not mentally fit to lead the nation. What? Yeah.

And yet, and yet, here he is. I didn't hear about this. Paving innovative grounds. Yeah, a group of retired U.S. military admirals and generals signed a letter released Tuesday questioning Biden's fitness for office and also challenging the outcome of the 2020 presidential election it's a flag officers for america this is why i like you know dialectics like nuance because on the one hand he definitely is not mentally fit to serve as president they're not wrong if they would just stop there

but it's also like you know they're hawks and like probably like mostly conservatives and shit neoconservatives so they just have the impetus to want to go to war he's a democratic president they think he's like soft but uh they're halfway right though i like i like but they're saying tacitly that trump is mentally fit to hold yeah and that's where it gets in the weeds a little bit that's when you sort of negate your initial argument yeah they said um we are in a fight for our survival as a constitutional republic like no other time since our founding in 1776 the conflict is between supporters of socialism and marxism versus supporters of constitutional freedom and liberty huh that would that that would be the the battle lines yes man who was it that said uh you know

uh when something uh the first time something happens, it's, I forget the first line, but the second time it's farce. Like, it's just like history repeating itself, where the, at this point, you know, the fact that they're using socialism and Marxism, like, it's hearkening back to the Red Scare, but it's like Biden is not a socialist. Like, it's like so like so like hyperbolized that you can't even take it seriously i mean you couldn't back then but like now it's like they're talking about supporters of marxism and socialism like unfortunately that's a that's a slim majority of people in this country like three i wonder if like the sort of nascent DSA Bernie movement, let's just say all this stuff that galvanized where we find ourselves today,

never happened. Would they be using that canard if we were still a bunch of young Clinton activists? That's a good point. Yeah. Well, weren't they still calling democrats like socialists back then anyway like it just seems like a tactic that they fall back on but maybe it wouldn't be as like jewish people yeah yeah yeah the tropes yeah there's a number of uh yeah people that communist has been shorthand for for a number of years yeah well so anyways these guys they say the constitutional republic is lost um

i i think that's pretty interesting um it's pretty funny 124 retired generals and admirals calling out Marxism in the government. I'm glad someone's on it. Somebody's on the case. Well, so, I want to talk a little bit about the Liz Cheney thing. I think

it's kind of an interesting development I think it's kind of an interesting It's kind of an interesting Development In the last couple days I think Trump What did Trump say He said something like she's nasty She's a nasty woman

Yeah I love that You know what's so funny about the Democrats is whatever at one point is their main blustering rallying call

for a play at power they always end up with the passage of time rehabilitating a little bit do you remember like when like like 2008 all we heard about was the iraq war from barack obama it's like the iraq war we can't we can't do four more years of bush for mccain all this kind of stuff now like that and like every liberal on the tip of their tongue, you know, vote or die and all this stuff, you know.

And it's weird that, like, now we're rehabilitated. George Bush is not only like a sweet grandpa that paints, but Liz Cheney, daughter of the most evil man that ever drew breath in America, daughter of the most evil man that ever drew breath in america uh is now the darling yeah of the democrat is now the darling of the democratic party and deserving in their estimation of profiles of courage did y'all see that uh that a majority of biden and uh democratic voters uh have a favorable approval rating of liz cheney makes total sense we will have an ice agent on ellen degeneres in the next 10 years 100 ice bay yeah yeah ice bay will be on i mean that kind of already happened yeah Yeah, yeah. Ice Bay. What's that? This ice agent who people were salivating over. I remember that, yeah.

And it's just like, yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah, there's really nothing. I don't know. If there's any conclusions to drop in the list, I'm probably not the person to do it, but it is kind of funny from a Schadenfreude perspective just to watch this Cretan meet her demise.

I just want to read the first couple lines of this story from the New York Times. As she arrived at the Capitol on Wednesday morning to meet her fate, the soon-to-be deposed number three Republican in the House hinted that she was already eyeing her next role. The party is going to come back stronger, and I'm going to lead the effort to do it, Representative Liz Cheney said as she stepped into an elevator

and down to her demise. I think it sounded like the elevator fell and she died yeah in flames or some shit yeah and those friends were her last words so so yeah what they did was they representative kevin mccarthy the republican minority leader was trying to address a short-term challenge, and in a narrow sense, he was successful. He was, he will no longer, blah, blah, fuck, I can't, okay, sorry. Her colleague stripped her of her post as chair of the House Republican Conference.

And, and so, as a result, all of these people have now started, like, for example, do you all know who Jennifer Rubin is? J. Rubin Blogger? Oh, yeah, unfortunately. J. Rubin Blogger said, the stampede away from the GOP begins. begins yeah apparently there are like uh like a hundred or something like uh republican and former republican politicians who are threatening to split from the gop and like former third party like they haven't said they're going to do it but they're warning that they're going to do it so uh yeah like that's a i don't know man that's a, I don't know, man, that's interesting. Cause I don't, I don't see that.

I know the whole realignment it's been happening over the past 30 years, but I can't imagine like, like who are these people going to be? Like the party really is Trump's party. You know, these people are going to be casted out. Like they're going to go to, uh, fundraisers and shit in their own states and be booed offstage. So, I don't know. Yeah. It's interesting.

I always think about Paul Ryan's departure in Wisconsin. And how he, like, portended some, like, awful, like, fate of the party or whatever, which might have just been just cover for him to just get the hell out of politics and go get, like, speech money or whatever the fuck he's doing now. But, like, do you think he jumped the gun a little too early? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Nah, he probably left at the right time, man, because he didn't get tainted.

But, I mean, no one's really tainted by Trump you know like uh mike pence everybody and nobody everybody exactly everybody and nobody man like they were able to like squeeze away from that shit but uh yo there was a guy man i forget his name but there was a guy that that uh that Cantor, Eric Cantor, I think. Oh, yeah. That, uh. From Virginia. Yeah, man. And, like, you know, John Boehner and shit like that. Right. Like, uh, who is now apparently investing in, like, recreational weed. So, like, he got out early, you know.

A partner with Dennis Rodman in pot coin. Are you serious? No, no. Oh, shit. That would be hilarious. Oh, they got, like, a new whiskey or champagne or some shit that they're advertising. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. I kind of lost my train of thought there. There was some sort of larger point I was moving towards that I don't even. We could just read from this J rubin blogger piece though it's kind of amusing i mean this is the alternate reality these people live in representative liz cheney threw down the gauntlet on wednesday refusing to accede to her party's transformation into a cult calling out the liars in her midst she is now house minority leader kevin mccarthy's worst nightmare.

I think that he is not leading with principle right now, Cheney said in an NBC interview. And I think that is sad. And I think it's dangerous. In other words, he's the spineless pawn of the former president who will do his bidding no matter how outrageous the demand. It's like... She said that? Or was that some editorializing? That's editorializing.

From Jay Rubin. Okay, okay. As Chaney tosses McCarthy around like a rag doll, she was making crystal clear how high the stakes are in 2022. Was she like the She-Hulk or some shit? Did she what? I said, is she like the Hulk or some shit? Yeah, I mean, I would go so far as to say that if a, you know,

a young, blood and soil, somewhat charming guy ran against McConnell, if he did run against, you know, a MAGA guy ran against McConnell, if he did run for re-election that McConnell would probably lose at this point like I don't know Lindsey Graham said today like he was like we can't just you know we can't just throw these people out of the party he's talking about the Trump people

it's like that would be the majority of our base I mean these people all know that this is the vast majority of the party there's not a lot of Liz Cheney's out there. So she might lose. I don't know. You think she's cooked?

I got a question. Why the concern about the Trump associations now? Is there something I'm not connecting here? Because he lost. Is he toxic? Is Trump toxic? I mean, yeah. he lost is he toxic is trump toxic i mean yeah i think i think to them because uh i was talking about it with my girlfriend and she was like yo why are these people why do they still believe

that uh the election was stolen and i was saying like the the actual politicians and i was like well they either are cynical about it and they know it wasn't, but they have to like their their base is still like, you know, addicted to like the Trump, you know, like they. Yeah. You know, they still believe that this is his party and the vision of America that he has is what needs to happen. But I think there are other people who actually believe that shit, man. Like not just the Marjorie Taylor Greens, but, I don't know. Like, uh, I mean, I don't know. I think there are some of them that actually, like, do believe this shit. And we're

gonna have more of, like, less of the cynicism and, like, the true believers in that shit, so. Yeah. You know. Like, Mitch McConnell, maybe there will be somebody who could challenge him, who is, like, you know, straight up like a Trumpian type of figure who's trying to take

back the party and maybe he'll lose. That shit is terrifying. It is an interesting prospect. What was the thing that McConnell said the other day that caused that? Did y'all see the thing going around about the New Jersey congressman that was talking about Kentucky being the moocher state? Oh yeah.

That was inspired by mcconnell saying something to somebody and i forgot about new jersey did y'all see that i think so i think so i can't remember exactly what it was hold on a second it was fucking great though you mean like the moochers state like the state is like uh you know like sucking resources away and like not like being reciprocal like is that what you like blaming like yeah basically just that old candidate about like states like kentucky you know uh get sent more than they like you know bring in that kind da da da that kind of shit. I think it was like McConnell said we're not interested in reopening

the 2017 tax bill. We both made that clear with the president. That's our red line McConnell says next to McCarthy. This discussion will not include revisiting the 2017 tax bill which then prompted Representative Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey.

Oh my fucking God, this guy, yeah. My red line is not having New Jersey continue to foot the bill for a moocher state like Kentucky. The 2017 tax hike bill hit blue states like New Jersey with the salt cap to pay for tax cuts for their families. And it hit our families hard. Dude, like that, that guy is like a fucking ghoul, man. Like he's part of the problem solvers caucus in the house and, uh, he's a Democrat, but like, I mean, he's Republican, you know? So, uh, I could, or he's, is he Republican?

No, he's a Democrat, but I mean, yeah, he's a conservative, you know, he's like a could he's is he republican no he's a democrat but i mean oh i started to say yeah he's a conservative you know he's like a he's like a northeastern joe mansion you know there's those there's those guys that always drop like arcane sort of like legislative things in their tweets like nine out of ten people don't know what the fuck's the salt cap was you know what i mean but he's over here flexing like say this is my this is my red line mitch mcconnell yeah i hate those times anyway we're not gonna find a way little taxes man i can't that's that's a good mcconnell that's yeah you have the guttural like you, you know, like the gullet. Like, yeah.

Yeah. If you can get me a quote here, I can probably. Let's see. We're not interested in re-opening the 2017 tax. Fuck, I can't. Yo, you had it. You had it, man. I was slipping into it.

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Well. I want you to do the rest of the show in there yeah yeah exactly all right so well i'm kind of confused as to why they decided to vote now to oust her what like did something prompt this like i can't even find the answer to that everything i've seen just says they just voted on this and that was that after the election uh i heard like this was bubbling but i don't i don't know if anything recently that would have made them do it maybe uh maybe it just got through committee or you know in a bureaucratic way or i don't know it's a it's it's just just funny because on the one hand, it's like just desserts.

Like, yeah, like, fuck you. You know, you deserve this. But on the other hand, there's like now this insane. I mean, the Republican Party has always been insane. But like, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, like Lauren Boebert, like that Hawthorne kid being like whipped around by like mccarthy so this is pretty funny she said she said i promise you this after today i will

be leading the fight to restore our party and our nation to conservative principles to defeating socialism to defending our republic, to making the GOP worthy again of being the party of Lincoln. Her comments were booed by a number of GOP lawmakers in the room. Boo! Fuck off! We love socialism! Right?

But it's like what like what she's saying is exactly what these people want right like yeah i mean like at some point when you lead to when it comes to its natural conclusion like that's what the party is going to be so like you can't like run away from it like this is exactly what you want like these people want what you're preaching so you can't run away from it. This is exactly what you want. These people want what you're preaching. So you can't be bad at them where they would kick you out. But it is funny, though. This is pretty funny.

Tom, you've made this point before, but Kevin McCarthy was talking about this later. He said, let's see, Cheney was taken down just minutes into the Wednesday morning conference. A sharp contrast from the February meeting where both pro and anti-Cheney members

aired their grievances. In a letter sent to his members Monday, McCarthy reaffirmed that the vote on her leadership position would take place on Wednesday, adding that the party was not closed off to members who offered dissenting opinions. He said, we are a big tent party. We represent Americans of all backgrounds and continue to grow our movement by the day. And unlike the left, we embrace free thought and debate.

I mean, where's the lie, man? Yeah, you're right. That's what I was gonna say. You got me there. You said it before, Tom. They really are a big tent. They really will just fucking take anybody.

I mean, they have to. Yeah. Yeah. They're like a minoritarian, like, party, so they gotta rely on, like, you know, like, shit like

in Georgia, you know what I mean? Like, restricted to vote. Like, kicking people out, especially, like, Liz Cheney, you know? Because she's like, you know, she's useless

at this point, man. I just imagine, I just imagine Kevin McCarthy and Lindsey Graham touring the countryside in search of would-be conservatives. And they, like, run up on an encampment of Zapatistas. And then, like, the Zapatistas are, like, you know, basically telling them they want to, like, spread their guts everywhere and, you know, hasta la victoria siempre and all that stuff and then

lindsey graham and kevin mccarthy are just like well that's not the best start but hell what the hell what the hell why not the shape of the republican party could look very fucking weird and like 10 you just no cohesiveness kind of like the democrats now you know what i mean yeah but at least the republicans are more aware of like what their party is you know what i mean or at least they have a project exactly they have a long-term ideological project you know oh yeah oh yeah you um well uh so Well, so what else? Do you guys got anything else you'd like to talk about? I mean, we can, I mean.

I left the last ten minutes open just so that, you know, we can. I did want to bring up that I heard today that Brian Kemp is canceling the enhanced unemployment, like the extra $300. Really? It's supposed to last until September, but apparently he's cutting it off in mid-June. So he's rooking some family out of $900. A family who may vote for him. Because there are a lot of republicans who like you know voters in the state who like like that so yeah i mean it's crazy because it's

it's not really any different than biden saying what did he say we're going to make it clear that anyone collecting unemployment who is offered a suitable job must take the job or lose their unemployment benefits. Has he indicated any definition of what suitable might mean in this circumstance? Yeah. Is pissing in a bottle in your truck

a suitable job? Not having a break for a couple hours? Yeah, because if I'm doing something for seven dollars and if i'm cleaning grease traps for seven dollars an hour i don't know bro i think i think i'll ride this unemployment thing out a little bit longer i was uh i was uh talking to my friends about it but i uh i wasn't getting my unemployment

because it ended in like march so it lasted for a year and I started looking around for a job like working at a restaurant something and it kicked in like a couple days after I got a interview offer and I was like nah man fuck that like I'm not gonna like go to work and like you know work for like you know a shitty job for like low wages which a lot of people are like that right especially uh people who have kids you know who don't have like child care so it's just funny that everyone is uh getting up in arms about uh people not wanting to work when it's like a paying more you know but i i see some there's some like stores here

in lexington that are kind of reversing course on that. I see you responded of it one of two ways. If you're like some dude that's like, you know, in his mid-50s on statins that's like taking a flyer on starting a McDonald's franchise or something like that, usually that guy's going to say, nobody wants to work anymore, you're all lazy bums for not wanting to be under my thumb and part of this fiefdom. And then others are saying, how about they're like bargaining on their signage.

How about $10 an hour? I saw today Culver's says, okay, $12 an hour. We're hired and we're starting at $12 an hour. So it's just one of two ways. Either you double down and call it, try to goad people into working for you by calling them lazy, or you just enter the sort of like, we're not going to $15 because if we say $15,

then we're going to validate fight for $15, and that's a slippery slope. That could open Pandora's box. But how about $10. about 12 you know how about uh 50 for an interview which mcdonald's was doing like they were offering people 50 bucks to come in uh for an interview but i don't know if this is like true don't like quote me on this but uh he said also that if people didn't take the job uh mcdonald's would report them to the department of labor like of their state and uh so it's like a trap yeah exactly a petty ass trap for no fucking reason because mcdonald's is not fucking paying that unemployment like

it's so fucking like somebody gave me 50 bucks come to an interview and they reported me to the to the feds i'd go beat the brakes off that motherfucker i swear i'm gonna get my fee i'm gonna get my 50 dollars worth exactly oh man yeah it's truly fucking amazing my man it's it's just a hilarious state of affairs with all this shit i mean i mean you would think that like uh like the elites like uh the establishment i mean they wouldn i mean you would think that like uh like the elites like uh the establishment i mean they wouldn't but you would think that people they would realize that people like like getting money you know like it also helps the economy and they would just do it but like instead they try to rate it back like you've invited you know yeah yeah yeah that's the

bottom line here man people want to get money they don't want to like it's just like there's a ratio of like how bad i felt the end of the day versus how much money i got and there's like a threshold and a bare minimum that people are at and that's where the you know that's where shit needs to be at yeah anyway um where shit needs to be at. Yeah. Well, so, I mean, there's really one topic that's sort of looming over everything else,

obviously, and it's what's going on in Palestine right now. I wasn't really sure if I wanted to talk about it, mostly because I'm not an expert, and anything I could say about it would basically just be your standard, there's a right and a wrong answer here, you know? Like, there's not moral equivocation here.

It's not both sides bullshit. But I don't know if you guys wanted to talk about it or wanted to talk about any of the maybe sort of responses you've seen or sort of like news coverage of it or not. We could just move on and say fuck to Israel, you know, fuck to the cops. One thing I think is, I think you see, it's kind of glaring. It's like you've always known there's like a propaganda machine there that's like propping Israeli legitimacy up and all that stuff. And it's weird to see how it's like seeping into all of our sort of entertainment products too.

It's like I didn't just realize how, I mean, I guess, and this is probably just foolish and ignorance on my part, but I guess I just didn't realize how willing to go to the mat that a lot of people are about Israel. And even in places like where we're from, where you know like people don't really I think a lot of people don't really understand the ins and outs of all that situation but it boils down to well if I'm gonna get my mansion on high then you know I have to you know I have to have this unwavering support for Israel as laid out in the scriptures you You know what I mean? And they don't realize the sort of horseshoe anti-Semitism of that notion.

But it's pretty striking when you see all this. And I understand that impulse too, Terrence, to be like, oh, well, I'm not an expert on this. And it's like, also, we're a show about, you know, the South and that flash of shit. So, like, what could we, you know, add to that? What could we add to that discussion? But I think that's part of it, too, though, right? That gaslighting into, like, oh, you're an expert on the Middle East all of a sudden.

But this one is fairly cutting right you know what i mean but you always see that you know like people want to like obscure that like oh well this is an interesting tension and friction and all this stuff and not it's just hypocrisy and and genocide that's what it is really so i saw uh i saw a tweet. This person said, quote, oh, you care so much about what's going on in Gaza. Point to it on a map. And I guess, like, you know, the person did, and they were like, okay, that's good. Right? So it's kind of like, okay, good job.

But, you know, it's like, well, dude, like, even if you don't, i don't know this is something like where i think until like there's something that's uh publicized especially on the media uh where people like kind of like turn their heads back and pay attention but it's something that's ongoing and i mean even me you know um it took me a minute to be like because there's there's there's one way that shit like this can be like almost like oppression porn you know and it can be performative um and uh i mean obviously like if you're something that you know believes in the things that we do you know or even if you're just a fucking decent human being like uh this is something that you should care about but it's just kind of weird how like uh like just now people are like realizing

you know and i'm wondering like how much of it is uh like genuine concern and understanding of like what's been going on there you know which i don't have complete knowledge of which makes me not you know also like to feel comfortable about talking about it i'm not an expert but uh and how much of it is like people kind of learning for the first time and how much of it is just people saying this is a bad thing that i should care about you know and uh yeah you hear people say shit like this is a religious war that's been going on for like uh centuries you know thousands of years and that's how little people know about this you know to the point where like now it's uh it's quickly uh devolved into like both sides of them you know yeah that's uh yeah man as laid out by our matinee out of gal gadot who has uh was concerned for the well-being of

everybody yeah i mean rihanna too man uh at At first she had a tweet that said, free Palestine. And then she came around and had like a Gal Gadot response, which, I mean, fuck these people. Like, their opinions don't matter. But I think it's like a barometer for like the way that most people think they should feel about this issue. Yeah. You know? I think you're right. I mean, I think that it seems pretty obvious.

Anytime you see something like this, you go to the fucking Wikipedia page or whatever. Yeah, duh. Yeah. And you look at the combatants and stuff, number of people injured, number of people killed, every single one of them. I mean, the number of Palestinians killed and injured is, you know, 50 times more.

And it's just, I mean, it's just like it doesn't take a fucking rocket science degree or even a phd in middle eastern history to know like what's going on here i mean i mean i don't know it's interesting because it's one of the few examples in our modern world of of a sort of institutionalized apartheid like in america in america it's it's it still exists of course but it's not like formal now it's all you know embedded in all the social relations and obscured by everything and you know is manifested through things like police killings and stuff but there i mean I mean, it is a flat-out, uh, cut-and-dry case of people's lands being either occupied, as in the case of the West Bank, or, uh, being cordoned off into a, you know, basically an open-air prison, and, you know, you look at those videos of, like,

I mean, did you guys see that video of that guy who, like, child with him and and he was in tel aviv and he was like they're they're sending rockets in you know what i mean like me and my child like we had to get down on the ground in the background you can see a guy just casually strolling by you know what i mean it's just like yeah right or the people that ripped their shirts to act like they were like yeah attacked or whatever. It's crazy. I mean, it's just full on. If you're going to rationalize your country's military just bombing an apartment complex building, you know what I mean, just flat out, just completely leveling a city block,

you've got several degrees of indoctrination there you know like these they're all just so in on the program you know it's just i don't know i'm talking about the israelis you know uh i saw i don't know like like when i think about it man uh and the things that i know like for example the uh idF does trainings for police departments in the United States, including Georgia State University for the police there. They do trainings and, you know, just the tactics that are used, like, you know, the same way that George Floyd, like the way he was murdered. You know, I've seen pictures of idf soldiers doing the same thing to palestinians and uh it's i want to read this quote from barry weiss i guess this is her uh yeah i don't know if you guys seen it i guess this is from her sub stack

and it's like truly horrific um she says uh some of these people, talking about the conflict, I mean, the conflict is, to say the least, are entirely innocent noncombatants, including children. This is an unspeakable tragedy. It is also one of the unavoidable burdens of political power, of Zionism's dream turned into the reality of self-determination. of self-determination. So, like, when I hear that, man, I think about, like, you know, the 30s, the 40s, the 60s, like, I mean, all throughout, like, you know, the early 20th century in America, the way that, I mean, whites were encouraged to, like, lynch black people, to hunt them down, you know? Right.

Like, that was built into the social relations of racial capitalism and a racial hierarchy and uh i don't know i have to look at that and i'm just like that is i mean that has been i don't know it's just it's just something that just is is so horrific i don't even really have the words for it you know like it and and the fact that barry weiss could say this outright like it sounds like it's ripped out of something from like 60 70 years ago you know oh yeah i mean in the south totally yeah i mean it's yeah it's normalized you know it's the same it's why when you're driving on 23 between big stone gap and gate city there's that house with the israeli flag

and the confederate flag i mean it's they're both states based off a kind of supremacism and real racists know you know what i mean like real racists know i mean it's yeah it's uh i don't know man it's it's just it It's just been so mystified that, you know, I mean, people know this, people listening, but just the moral equivalency or saying that Israel has the right to defend itself, you know. But, you know, Palestine apparently doesn't. So it's a... Dude, I mean, I'll tell you how stupid I am. dude i mean i'll tell you how stupid i am i don't think i knew until maybe i was 20 years old that israel was a modern nation state created in the fucking 1940s i literally saw it on a map

growing up and being like oh yeah that's the israel from the bible i thought that shit was the oldest country on earth exactly yeah yeah yeah i was like bro that's been around for a minute that was like the spiritual cradle of human civilization I didn't know that a lot of these places were just carved up in the aftermath by the British or whoever the French, the Americans

Saudi Arabia same why well one thing I did want to bring up about it is uh we should stop and recognize that tel aviv is the queer feminist egalitarian capital of the middle east and we won't stand for those amas rockets being fired upon her this this might be the worst tweet i've ever seen. And I've seen... I've lived through a lot of them. That's a high bar, man.

Tel Aviv, period. The queer feminist egalitarian capital of the Middle East. Yes, Hamas is firing rockets at it because it's filled with Jews. But also because it stands as a beacon for human freedom. And jihad will never win against these impenetrable values you know so as a dutiful pmc probably the very first political cause i ever got involved with in was uh palestin palestinian solidarity committee you know, University of Texas. And it's crazy how in the last 10 years, I graduated college 2011,

it's fucking insane how in the last 10 years, how far to the right all of the talking points and windows of opportunity or whatever have moved on this. Like, nobody talks about the two-state solution anymore. Like, a very slim margin of people. And I don't believe in that, obviously. And I never did once I really learned what was going on. But it is fascinating to me how there's no middle ground anymore,

which I find very fascinating um because people you know i've got friends or friends i use the term loosely people i went to college with who like went on birthright and stuff you know and like spent years in there and everything and and i shit you not they i saw one of them online yesterday being like the people people who believe in Israel's right to exist, but also believe in Palestinians' right to self-determination, or whatever the fuck phrase they use that's cooked up in some fucking lobbyist package somewhere, it's like, they're being erased. This is erasure.

We exist. And it's like, yeah, like six of you. There's fucking six of you left. You know? There is none of these people anymore. They're like the Liz Cheney's of the world. like we exist and it's like yeah like six of you there's fucking six of you left you know like there is none of these people anymore they're like the liz cheney's of the world it's like i mean look look what's going on like you've got that video of them burning the fucking temple on the mount and i'm all just like scream or you know singing and dancing and it's the most disgusting sickening thing i've ever fucking seen

and and it's just like that that's why you're that you think you're being erased because like this that's what this is for do you not get the fucking memo like it's a state based on a kind of supremacism and where do you think that fucking leads like are you out of your fucking mind i don't know it's it's disgusting yeah i saw i saw this uh i saw this video uh that democracy now uh posted with this um this this palestinian woman uh yelling at um this is really jew and telling him that um you know you're you kicked me out of my home like i used to live here and now now I'm homeless. And he's saying, well, I didn't do it. And if it wasn't me, it'd be somebody else. And that sort of like, this is why people who were saying that Gal Gadot,

at least she rebuked Netanyahu's comments. But she never apologized for serving like serving in the idf and she never yes by being in the idf yeah and she never would because uh uh it's so the the indoctrination is that your your role is to uh constantly attack an aggressor you know and constantly like you know be able to to i mean i don't know i i don't i don't think that anyone can admit that that project is uh about egalitarianism right like it's not in its current iteration you know you have to be honest about that and you can't just like rebuking that now who or anybody else you have to like like admit like the role that you had in this project that's why she's getting shit you know i mean the whole thing is based off of the

whole community's role i mean like that's what settler colonialism is you know it's like it's not like the state itself is like going in i mean it is seizing these these pieces of land but it's literally it's almost exactly like how the united states took land from the from the indigenous people i mean literally i mean they just send uh middle class and working class people into those places and then tell them well yeah you can live there now the land is yours you know so it's it's a fucking everybody's involved everybody's fucking culpable to a degree and that includes even americans who fucking pay for the whole goddamn thing bank rolling yeah and defend it yeah we're all getting ready to sign uh checks to just go

sin in the next couple of days you know what i mean and i mean it's not an original point obviously but like just sort of the anti-Semitism that the whole project of Israel is founded on of France and Poland and Hungary and Russia and all these places wanting to get rid of Jews. You know what I mean? And we don't talk about that either. It's like a...

I forget who said it, but they said it was, they called it the world's biggest racist NIMBY project. I, am I wrong? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I mean, I really don't know i mean i i mean i i really don't know uh you know i i just wonder uh you know like i was trying to like say before the like how impermanent some of these things seem you know when they like catch the eye of the public especially the media so like i'm kind of like

wondering like um you know, because there is going to be an escalation. You know, more people are going to die. And I'm just wondering, like, when is this going to fade from, like, the public consciousness, you know? And I don't know. I mean, I've seen, like, protests and rallies, like, in cities all across the country, and that gives me hope.

But it's just a kind of depressing knowing that uh you know this is going to continue and this is just something that uh we are all now like well not we but you know a lot of people are kind of like uh glued into because uh they should feel bad but you know it's uh it's something that they're not aware of because of the way that our politics and culture works. Yeah. I mean, I will say that I think that while obviously the Israeli government has only gone to the right, and, you know, that's the only natural trajectory it can go. I mean, like, there's no fucking reforming any of that. Like, it's the same principle underneath the cops, and there's no fucking coincidence they train our cops.

But I will say that it does feel like in America, and I could be wrong about this, but it does feel like more and more people are waking up to how completely fraudulent it is. I mean, you know, I don't know really why that is. If it's because of Black Lives Matter, I think that's a big part of it. I think that that's tied into it. I also think social media is also tied into it in the same way that social media is also kind of what inserted Black Lives Matter into the sort of, you know, I mean, through videos

and everything like that. But it does seem to me that as opposed to 10 years ago, people are just flat out like this place doesn't, it should not exist. You know, this is like, this is a settler colonial ethnostate. What the fuck is this? Exactly. And it feels, I mean, like that to me feels like potentially a hopeful thing. Yeah. I mean, obviously, I don't really know how you harness that or what good it does.

But, I mean, everybody that is, even if it's one person at a time, everybody that is brought over to the side of the Palestinians is a victory. And, yeah, I mean, I don't know. There are ways to support it. I'm not aware, or I don't know any off the top of my head, but I'm sure we could find some to boost out there for people. Yeah, I think definitely for what it's worth, the backlash against Gal Gadot, that's a good sign. Or that's a sign at least we should be a little bit hopeful for and kind of hold on to and hope that that kind of expands and express itself into something a little bit more

kind of direct and you know uh material you know yeah for sure all right well that concludes this show for this week if you'd like to go support us on patreon you can do so p-a-t-r-e-o-n.com slash trailbilly workers party uh five dollars a month we'll get you an episode every sunday so please go check that out. And anything else? No. All hearts and minds clear. I need some food. Yeah. That's a good idea.

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