Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 267: Election Dowsing

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

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bro i'm tell you i'm cooked up top that's all y'all got hair man i'm sitting here ball bro well the thing is it's the eternal wisdom all black guys look good ball this is true all white guys not necessarily true there's like three white guys that look good ball bruce willis is one of them. That poor bastard. Actually, Bruce Willis is the only ball white guy I could think of when you said that. Jason Stata maybe a little bit. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, yeah. Kanye's trainer. That guy's like cue ball. Oh yeah, that guy that chained him to the there is something to that like i do think there is such a thing as they're being handlers but at the same time it's like dude you're like a 45 year old man you could they want to tell you Dog, you're almost 50. Yeah, you're almost 50, dog.

I feel like it's 1,000% true in the case of 18-year-old Britney Spears. Yeah, absolutely. But like 45-year-old Kanye. A 45-year-old black man that's a billionaire where you could get a hit out on this motherfucker if you wanted to. Right, yeah. Kanye's going to kill me, man, and you're going to let some trainer fucking, yeah. See, this is what we need to do, Mr. West. Either I'm going to chain you up to the radiator or we're going to have a nice conversation.

Oh, hell. Jude Law, another white guy that's bald not bald but balding that looks good oh uh Brian Crant

well was I'm thinking of Breaking Bad Brian Crant well that's that's elective though yeah that's true that was for the role

yeah he's that's different see I don't think he looked that good with it so well you really you don't I mean maybe not maybe not I think he looked that good with it. Really, you don't?

I mean, maybe not. I think he looked down the line like shit. His lumpy ass head. Dude, we fucking failed Jason Isbell. We fucking failed him. We did. We're not getting, what was it? If the blue wave came he promised. I was looking for

the tweet you sent me. It was like I can't wait to write an album about the blue wave if Beto wins Texas or something. Wait, who said that? Jason Isabel. Known to me and Terrence as he's sort of a

figure in Whitesburg's trajectory over the last 15 years. Well, he was in one of my favorite bands ever, Drive-By Truckers, and has since squandered all of the good graces he earned during that period. Perhaps best known to the internet as the 30 to 40 feral hogs guy. Well, yeah, he's going to be the next Rex Chapman. Oh, yeah. 1,000. He's on a trajectory to be the next Rex Chapman.

Yeah. Account. Yo, I'm not going to lie. I had no idea who Rex Chapman was. You know, I even thought he was a black guy, man. Like, when I saw his profile picture. You'd be forgiven for making that mistake because he is he does belong to the all white guys that play like black guys uh nba all-time team him jason white chocolate williams tom chambers i mean others lebron was hooping with him apparently

was he really i mean i don't know see the thing about LeBron is that LeBron is the perfect embodiment of the e-crisis because you never know if anything he says is real or not. He manifests the past. He was like, dude, I was on flight 93. And people are like, what happened? And he's like, well, I don't know. The thing about LeBron is he's like a classic liar friend that you would have in high school in the sense that like some people are liars and then when they get called out on it they can like

weasel their way out or cleverly come up with something but lebron will get called out like in that press conference the other day when they were asking him about his favorite lines he claimed he watched the godfather trilogy six times in 2016 and they asked him what his favorite line from the trilogy was and he was like well you know i there's a lot of lines in those movies you've seen the movie you've seen the movie you broke my heart not like there's all timeless lines and he's like i'm smart i'm smart nah that's somebody where you go like you've seen the movie motherfucker you know everybody's favorite line why are you asking me he did eventually say that he told the he told this guy was like pressing him like jake tapper 2009 in the obama press he was like he was pressing him on uh he was like but really what's your favorite line

and eventually lebron was like well you just pick a line and I'll go with that. Yeah. He's like. And then it's LeBron. What are you going to say about it? Right. Right. He's.

Well, that's what I don't understand. Why does he have to lie? It's, listen, the reason why I told lies when I was a kid is because i knew i was never going to be the greatest of all time at something so i had to shore up that deficit and confidence by saying outlandish shit like my father created the street fighter game series what about lebron then lebron is already one of the greatest players who's ever lived. That's what I don't understand. Like, why does he have to? He's the most successful liar of all time, probably.

The most talented liar of all time. I love my favorite one is when they ask him about the autobiography of Malcolm X. He's like, well, I'm just starting it. And then they, like, showed a picture of him. Like, he tried to start reading that over, like, a period of, like, 10, I'm just starting it. And then they showed a picture of him. He tried to start reading that over a period of 10 years and never got past it. He's like, he was a very smart man. That is relatable.

I can relate to lying about having read a book. Or saw a movie or watched a series. I do that shit all the time. All the time. I do that shit all the time. All the time. I do that shit all the time. But like him lying about okay there's a few recent lies that stand out. Him lying about having listened

to the Migos before they were ever a group. That makes no sense. But again he's kind of like there's kind of like a hipster thing to that. But didn't he lie about 9-11? Didn't he have a lie about 9-11?

I can't remember. That he was on the flight or some shit? That would be insane. United 93 or some shit. Yeah, he was like, I was standing under. When Amy McGrath shot Flight 93 out of the sky, I was standing under it and I caught... The black box.

I caught the infamous falling man from... Yeah. Put him in my trophy case with all my rings and trophy tissues. Yeah, he died later in the hospital from smoke inhalation, but I caught him and he lived. Like a baby. Cradled him. He cradled him. Oh shit. Oh shit yeah.

Speaking of babies did y'all see the it was going around like the New York Times tips for calming down

during the election. Did y'all see that? They had tips like to reduce election day anxiety They had tips to reduce election day anxiety? Yeah, tips to reduce election day stress. Gonna be 100% honest with you, I didn't sweat for one nanosecond. Bruh, I mean, like, I was surprised by shit, but I mean, like, yeah, I didn't sweat.

For what? It's none of my business. Yeah, yeah, none of my business yeah yeah no my business um i mean this is that the new york times said uh five ways to soothe election stress number one stop reading the new york times yeah cancel your subscription uh number one try five finger Trace the outside of your hand With your pointer finger When you trace up, breathe in

And when you trace down, breathe out So that's what everybody was doing In line at the polls I thought they were drawing Thanksgiving turkeys You should do that in arts and crafts In school, you put your hand and draw turkey uh number two took me back do what no he took me back with that one with the head turkey yeah they're simpler days i still do those

i still do and they're like my fridge has thousands of them i do one every day every night on every side of the fridge number two cool down plunge your face into a bowl with ice water for 15 to 30 seconds what the fuck um okay three move even a walk around the block can offer some relief for an uneasy mind um number four this is the this is the best one breathe like a baby focus on expanding your belly as you breathe which can send more oxygen to the brain because you are a fucking baby crying about some election man you talking about and then number five limit your scrolling so uh no i mean i i should have been number one that's one of the scrolliest days of the year, too.

Mm-hmm. That's a tall order. You're not getting someone, you're not getting a New York Times reader to limit the scrolling. No, no. That's not happening. No.

Yeah, but yeah, no, plunge your face into a bowl with ice water. Like, that's good shit. that's a classic vagal maneuver yeah a vagal maneuver yeah what's that it's when uh like if your heart rhythm is out of whack you do the vagal maneuver and it's supposed to set your heart rate back right what is so a little tip for people with irregular heartbeats if it's going nuts just dip your face in some cold water maybe it works maybe it doesn't but i think i read an article many years ago that was like they don't understand why that is the case they don't understand why our hearts calm down

in ice water maybe it's like a shock to the system a reset it's like a it's like when you have like a i don't know like a device or something like that like your phone and they got the little reset button you got to use like a little pin to get that shit in uh that's what it's like uh that's what it's like with cold water man as your penis retreats inward inside causes your heart to again be stripped be calmed yeah all right because you're no longer burdened by right and having male genitalia right you you can be a whole person again if only for a moment i had a moment i did have a therapist that told me that one time like take an ice bath i was like i'm. I don't think that's going to work. The motherfucker thought you could take a cold shower?

I've heard people say that for, like, weight loss or, like, muscle building and stuff like that. There's all kinds of, like, little biohack tweaks that people have been pushing on. You know, it's like, maybe there's some merit to it, but by and large, you're not going to get ripped sitting in a nice bath. Right. I don't think I've ever taken a cold shower man like uh like unwillingly i guess right like i've taken cold showers because my hot water wasn't working but i've never actually wet in the shower just said yes you know what i'm thinking cold this morning you forgot to pay the bill right i had a friend that did that one time that was like, yeah, sometimes I just like take a cold shower just because, like, what do you mean?

It's like, well, sometimes I like hot showers. Sometimes I like cold showers. Sometimes I'm like, nah, I kind of got one cruising altitude as far as that goes. Well, there's like, it's kind of like a Rogan thing. You know how there's this kind of like cottage industry of like self-help gurus who have these um quick fixes and stuff like that like it's it's like a rogan thing like he has

guys on there a lot who talk about like the benefits of cold water baths like ice water baths and stuff like that is it is it like some manliness shit like some uh some uh like taking a cold bath or shower reinvigorates your masculinity that's the thing like that's what i can't understand because as you pointed out a cold bath will quickly deprive you of your manhood well i think i think to ray cronies is like the godfather of this thought he was like a nasa engineer or something like that and he found out he was like well how come michael phelps can eat like a NASA engineer or something like that. And he found out. He was like, well, how come Michael Phelps can eat like a 12,000 calorie diet and still maintain six-pack abs or whatever? And I guess it's because the cold water actually makes us burn more calories or something for whatever reason.

Because it's trying to keep your body heat back up to 98.6, you know what I mean? And when you go dip below that, your body has to burn more calories to kind of keep it, your body heat normal. I used to be a swimmer, and that water is cold as shit. Yeah. And, you know,

you have to wear those little Speedos. But I had, dude. How'd you feel going out there in front of everybody? That little banana hammock. How'd you feel? I felt free. I felt free and liberated. Yeah, you little banana hammock. I felt free. I felt free and liberated. I was beautiful.

I used to be a beautiful boy. I'm normal. I was the beautiful boy. All the creepy older men of town were chasing after me all the time. So there's that beautiful boy again. Let's see if he gets the 400 meter butterfly record today. Dude, those Speedos were dangerous.

Like I had a buddy in swimming who got a boner in one one time during practice. And it was like, it like spread. In God's name, would you get in a rush during swimming practice a rush dude it's hard not to because you're swimming with the girls like it was co-ed you know what i'm saying like and they're all in

their bathing suits i forget yeah when you're 14 it is kind of hard to rein it in sometimes that's that's how i learned my amazing self-control because like i had to learn like dude if you get a boner right now it's gonna be humiliating it's fucking over for you dog it's gonna pull your speedos off you yes so i developed a stoic asexuality from a young age and it served me well until today never be horny yes that that that's a situation honestly, I think more people with penises, a situation that more people with penises should have to do because it teaches you the dangers of horniness. Yeah.

If everyone can see it. Yeah. It was a big scandal, though. Well, there's a few exceptions to that rule. Antonio Brown and Josh Primo didn't. If people can see it, it didn't really stop them. By and large, yes. Your point's well taken.

Did you see that story about the Spurs player for the San Antonio Spurs? No. Like, just, like just habitually exposed himself to staffers and stuff like that. Really? I just couldn't stop. He'd be walking around with a towel around his waist and some shit

and locker room would be just flashing. I don't even know what the circumstances were, but it cost him the bag. They fucking got rid of his ass. To staffers of all genders? No, I think just women. Oh, okay. So he's being a creep. No, he's just a Louis C I think it was. Oh, okay. So he's being a creep.

No, he's just a Louis C.K. shit. Yeah. He wasn't being like an exhibitionist on the subway. He was being. No, no, no. He was just being an out and out creep. An out and out creep. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that'll get you fired. Anyway, yeah. You can, yeah. That kind of stuff will fumble your bag too. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta admit, man.

I've been seeing a lot of uh bag fumbling lately man between uh kanye and elon and rafael warnock yeah stacy abrams stacy but actually you know she never had the bag i was well i was actually i was gonna say you can make a pretty good case that by losing if she would have won that would have been fumbling the bag stacy's reward is the restoration of democracy first and foremost it's not somebody concerned with monetary reward her rewards in heaven in the court of public opinion oh man her reward isn't uh her reward isn't uh did y'all y'all not really into star Trek or watching shit like that. But there's a new Star Trek where she played the president of United Earth in the 32nd century. And the Washington Post, the Washington Post last year did like a little article about it.

And she was like, this is Stacey Abrams said that by the year 2040, she'll be president. But she's president of Earth way before that. And I was just looking at it this morning, know with her uh with her election loss last night 900 years later bro maybe you'll get it it was a pretty big loss right like it wasn't even close right i know it was it wasn't even close i don't think it was like 10 points but it was what was she man i didn't know that race because what was uh brian kemp brian kemp so it was... Who was she running against? Brian Kemp. So it was the governor's race? Yeah, second time she's running against Kemp because she ran against him in 2018 and lost.

Well, it was close last time, I thought. Well, she would have won, but he pulled some chicanery, right? Didn't he leave a lot of voting machines locked up? They would go certain areas and put one up when they should have had like six up or something like that yeah he like polling locations and he purged people from the polls

but honestly man like she did worse this time than last time so it's like it makes sense i mean maybe i mean who there are very few i'll say this It's one of my favorite lines from Mad Men, but nobody comes back from exile, not even Napoleon. Yeah. No one comes... There are no comebacks, really. It's interesting that so much of our written lore and other things is rooted in revenge narratives and stuff like that

because these things never really end well yeah and if even if you look in the ancient accounts usually when you seek revenge weird things happen like you have sex with your mother and your brother like stabs you in the head and on top of a volcano and casts you into the river Styx yeah know, so that's the thing. Also, too, it's not the same thing. It's not a one-to-one, but it's kind of connected with the Charles Booker thing. And I don't want to be

hard on Charles, because I like Charles. And, you know, I wish all the best for him. But like me and Terrence were talking yesterday, he could have easily foxtroted into John Yarmuth's empty seat, been in Congress, been part of the squad, and really contributed. But there's a certain level of hubris that kicks in that, like,

you wanted to be the one that vanquished Mitch McConnell or Rand Paul or whatever. And you end up fucking us all when you sort of insert, you know, your ego into that a little bit, you know what I mean, and I think it's an easy mistake to make, because I think all human beings do it, but like, damn, money left on the table, for sure. Yeah, yeah, you know, you got a point, man, because I was thinking about Beto, somebody was saying that, like, or even Stacey, like, you know, why not just run for a congressional seat, you know what I mean, like, why do you feel like you got to be, like, black woman governor in the south which is a dope accomplishment but i don't know man it feels like you're feeding into hubris at the detriment of like i don't know

actually helping people but then these guys these people are fucking losers right so they were never destined to win anyway they have no honor you know yeah they have no honor it's well it's weird it's like um in the case of stacy abrams i think she kind of got high on her own supply a little bit with everybody saying that she was the reason biden won in 2020 you remember that was the narrative she got she got gassed up a little bit on her her fair fight organization yeah she was our lady of the blue wave. You're right. And then in Beto's case, Beto got too much pussy. He has too much swag.

And people in Texas... The world will never understand a man like that. He's sitting on tables all swagged up, standing on tables they can't even conceptualize. Yeah, as someone born in Texas, in the most swagless state, you could just tell when you saw that video of him dancing. My man has too much swag. They don't know what to do with it.

He was born in the wrong time, for sure. They would have wrote sonnets and erected statues to a man like that in yesteryear. Unfortunately, we just get cuss and bait out you know yeah yeah i'm just tired of this losing energy man it's just like why do you keep putting people that like have especially in the south man you know especially in the south you like you put these people who are basically running as republican lights in a region of the country where people would rather just vote for Republicans, you know, well,

they keep doing it over and over again. Yeah. There was like a, a story in the New York times about, so the, the thing going into this election, there were like three main issues going into this election that everyone honed in on. It was pussy money weed.

It was pussy money weed it was pussy money weed three big issues i have a what issue voter that is all what is yeah i have a pmw right but well that's the thing like there are different partisans for each camp and that you know birdman little wayne they were money over this is yeah you know and then until little way Wayne betrayed it and became the pussy monster. Right. Struck out on his own. If the little bird never learns to fly,

he'll never leave the nest, etc. But, yes. Yeah, you're right. Crime, abortion, and inflation. Those are the three. And so, all the articles leading up to this week i mean back in the summer there were some that was like abortion is gonna you know the ban uh overturning row will

play into the democrats favor and then as the fall war on people said okay inflation will actually push all of that to the back burner of everyone's mind they'll forget about the abortion issue and then the sleeper uh hit though was crime that was the one that like there were multiple articles actually one of my favorites there was an article in the atlantic by one of the atlantic's top dipshits like there's always like single uh no not not single there's like they have like a a whole fucking murderers row murderers dipshits like a pantheon yes they go out to like the horse barn and they try you know like they're all lined up in their kennels parthenon and it's just all statues of dipshits.

And when one moves on to the New Republic, they pull it down and put the statues of the newest up. And put the new one up. But one of the underestimated, in my opinion, like undervalued dipshits there is this guy named David Graham. And he has been fucking obsessed with crime all year. He's been obsessed with it.

And he wrote an article yesterday morning that was like, crime will be the reason that the Democrats fail and underperform. Like they're gonna get slaughtered because they, you know, did defund the police they entertained it too much crime is out of control blah blah blah well that wasn't the case apparently

because now it looks like these results are pretty mixed the democrats didn't really get slaughtered it was yeah they lost a hair bit of ground it seems it looks like republicans rejected or voters rejected the whole crime narrative and the whole culture war shit that the right was pushing it's not really that the democrats campaigned and won on anything but people were just like yo i don't want to hear about your war and wokeism you know i think honestly yeah i think that that is part of it well okay we'll get into that in just a minute but i just want to say that on the david graham note my man like woke up this morning and obviously saw that that wasn't the case that crime wasn't the case so he had to like rush a piece out grab the nine millimeter

from the bedside table he had to go create some crime of his own robbed a safeway last night no he he he like he he like these these atlantic columnists put out an article a week right it's like once a week like barely very rarely are they putting out uh one on back-to-back days on consecutive days but you know he probably felt pretty shit pretty embarrassed about his crime take yesterday because he rushed out one this morning about like americans are more divided than ever or something like that it's just like he had to push it down the tl is what i'm saying you know you have a bad tweet you're like oh okay i gotta tweet my way out of this i gotta make some good yeah yeah yeah just gotta start retweet a bunch of shit so we can't see it yeah yeah and uh so anyways all of which is to say that i i don't really know it's hard for me to diagnose what happened yesterday because a i'm not a voter

i said that folks i didn't need that blood on my hands i renounce my american citizenship i'm a world citizen now i'm a citizen of the world now okay global passport yeah but b i have no fucking idea what motivates people anymore like this guy came by to fix the heater a few weeks ago and i was talking to him and i like to do this thing with people when i talk to them i'm like the you know like you have like dowsing rods for finding water underneath earth like i do that with ideology i'm trying to find where this man's was belief system this man's working on your whatever it was and you're just standing behind him with a talisman and he turns around he's like like, can I help you?

Putting it in his ass crack. No, no, no, keep going, keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep going, keep going. And I was talking to him and he was like, poking his ass crack with a dowsing rod. Dip that shit in it. Like a thermometer, take the temperature.

Sexually harassing him. It's like, I was talking to him and he you know because like i'm an expert at this i guide people in in the direction of issues that i know is going to get them animated and worked up and so i was like you're a troll yes basically yeah um and so i was talking to him and i and uh and and he was talking about, like, inflation. That's what it was. It started about, like, the price because he was like, I'm going to have to pay you this because things have gone up. And I was like, oh, yeah, it seems like a lot of things are going up right now, huh?

Inflation's a big deal. So I'm, like, leading him along with this, and he's like, yeah, well, you know. And then, obviously, that's the, like, the floodgates open, right? Because he starts talking about, he's like, yeah, well, you know, and then obviously that's the floodgates open, right? Because he starts talking about, he's like. What Terrence didn't know is he unwittingly added about $200 to the service bill. He was like, oh, you agree with inflation, right? Okay, so you understand. So you understand when this bill is going to come out to about $900 instead of $400.

That's about 900 instead of 400. And he starts going in on like, he's like, the environment's being poisoned, all this stuff in the water and the food. And he was like, in your generation, he's like, your generation has it worse than my generation. He's like, everything, it just keeps getting worse for every successive generation.

And I'm like, go on, go on. Go on, brother. Because I know this isn't going where I think it's going. What you don't understand is he was doing the same thing to you. You're right, you're right. He was like, okay, I'm going to ingratiate myself to this young liberal by saying that, yeah, being sympathetic to the plight of his generation. Uh-huh. And so he's like, and you know why that is?

And I was like, yes, we finally... Yes. Tell me the bad shit, unhinged shit. I'm ready. Yeah, he's like, the Kyoto Protocols. The world... Terrence's dousing rod just goes limp. Terrence's dousing rod just goes limp.

So, yeah, for him, it was like there's a global EPA, and they're punishing people for burning coal. You know, just like boilerplate stuff. But anyways, all of which is to say that he had this set of observations that was correct. he had this like set of observations that was correct and then the explanatory model is uh completely incoherent right in abstract honestly like he put the blame at like a global level at these forces that neither none of us have any control over whatsoever yeah all of which is to say that i have no fucking clue what motivates the average american voter you know what i'm saying like it is all is constantly a calculation or triangulation

between let me give you another example there's this woman i work with at the library sometimes every time i talk to her she she's a you know socially liberal she's liberal. She is anti-racist, supports like LGBT stuff, you know, was like a Bernie guy. She was like a Bernie voter in 2020. She was like, yeah, Bernie was my favorite, but I was probably going to be for Bernie or Bloomberg. And I was like, okay. And then she was like, but my number one choice was Mayor Pete I was like what the fuck and I think the most incoherent shit that's all over the board man I think the thing is is a lot of people we don't really consider it this way because like we're

ideologues right like we don't really take this into consider well we're not really pragmatists a lot of people take partisans we're wematists. A lot of people take. We're partisans. A lot of people, they have this kind of thing in the back of their mind that like, can the candidate win? Is it realistic that they will win? Because if I'm going to invest any bit of what, I mean, and obviously like to us, Mayor Pete would never win. But like with a person.

That's a notion I still stand by. You think he could win? Well, the day that he does is the day that i say all right boys i'm walking into the seat don't call me next week i'll be just walking into the city yeah like just just sitting on a cliff in big service and shit that's right just contemplating my Like, contemplating my life cross-legged. This man can't make the trains run on time, but he's gonna fix our democracy. Anyways, all of which is to say that, like, there's a complex

sort of calculation that goes into all this stuff. And so, if the takeaway from this election is that it was explicitly around abortion and that being overturned, that's very interesting. I mean, because I would have thought personally that inflation would have been the biggest one. Like, I know crime motivates a lot of people, but I do think that the people that it aggravates the most are liberals i mean i know that conservatives

care very much about it and they talk about it all the time but that's already baked into their you know candidates like they already you know expect their own candidates to do something about that um whereas like liberals think that they can shape it in some way that yeah yeah redounds to the were you were you surprised and i don't know how it shook out in georgia do y'all have the same ballot measure in georgia with with the abortion no we didn't we didn't actually have it on the ballot y'all have it on the ballot yeah that was our thing so i was interested to see exactly how much like i saw so many and of course i live in in sort of a place with a lot of liberals but i was interested in how there wasn't really the big

offensive with vote yes on one and two that the liberals put up with vote no on one and two right you know what i mean like i think that's interesting because i would have thought that on one and two that the liberals put up with vote no on one and two. Right. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's interesting because I would have thought that was, which there's a number of, I guess, different conclusions you can derive from that. Maybe they want to make that a political football,

again, a sort of a hedge in case the red wave didn't come or whatever. You know, just double down on the culture war thing. But I was really shocked and this, and I am a man that now listens to a lot of conservative talk radios. It just wasn't the same level of campaigning

for what it seemed like to be like, you know, for all the bluster about they're gonna like mop up. Yeah. I figured that, honest to God, when I went to the polls, I was like, this is gonna be dark because there's no way in hell this is gonna.

You're right. We're going to win on this one. Yeah. And we did. So... Yeah. You know what else? You know, I was thinking about, man, it's like, and I said this when I was on the stream last night with Means TV, but I was like, I've been thinking about it all day, like how Georgia, like you had Herschel Warnock,

you had Herschel Warnock, you had people that voted for herschel walker sorry i always say herschel warnock man like i put these that's what we need a power sharing agreement one has ct the other uh is saved by the grace of jesus christ no we need them both to step into that uh that transporter from the fly movie uh-huh i'm saying they both they both come out yeah they mail they well but like people voted for so you had like uh walker voters and kemp uh warnock voters sorry and kemp voters right uh-huh and that seems like contradictory and i mean it is but i realize like in georgia and it seems like one of the driving forces in american politics one

of the biggest contradictions is respectability versus reaction you know what i mean so it's like herschel walker was too grotesque and too much associated with trumpism right for um i guess well-to-do conservatives down here who don't want to believe that they're reactionaries or that they're racist or x y and z right but like kemp is kind of the conservative even though his policies are like the same neo-confederate bullshit he at least presents it in a package that's more palatable i guess well he fought trump didn't he didn't him and trump beef over the ballot counts kind of kind of the same thing with the secretary of state down here because the didn't the like yeah the georgia secretary of state stepped in and said no the election was not

stolen and verified it after like didn't trump call them personally and try to pressure them into not verifying the yeah threaten the motherfucker bro he threatened him dog and like that guy won and i think it's because like conservatives want to like i don't know man i guess they see this change coming in this wing coming and like they might support these reactionary policies but it has to be presented in such a way but they have no problem voting for somebody like brian kemp you know what i mean they have no problem voting for somebody like brian kemp but apparently walker is a little bit too much so i don't know man it's like this it's contradictory but i guess it makes sense you know i guess it makes sense for these people where they think that kemp is doing his job but

herschel walker is a little bit too nutty for them you know maybe and it fits in these people's minds man yeah maybe it's as simple as trumpism is not ascended and bog standard conservatism is like back and maybe as popular as it's been since the Bush era. This is something I've been wondering about. It is entirely possible, because people were expecting the red wave or whatever, they were expecting Republicans to just blow them out of the water. It is interesting that they didn't, And it does make me wonder if January 6th was maybe like the last dying gasp of a certain strain of conservative politics. Just in the sense that like if you look at crime, I kind of wonder if liberals think that January 6th was an example of the democratic party actually taking crime seriously in the sense that

like we talked about before january 6 allowed them to kind of resolve some of those contradictions within their demographic in the sense that like well look these these people attacked cops they beat the shit out of them and we're taking this seriously and they were kind of able to adopt some like pro-cop uh platforms and and uh that's what tim ryan did and he still lost yeah well we gotta talk about that too that's that's we're contractually obligated i guess but the network then the network says yes if jd vance is in the news you must comment on it so did y'all did y'all see that i gotta show y'all this picture brad did y'all see the picture The network says, yes, if J.D. Vance is in the news, you must comment on it. Did y'all see that? I got to show y'all this picture, Brad.

Did y'all see the picture? Y'all see the picture? That was all the cable news, man. Yo, this is like, bro, he looks like an Ewok, yo. From fucking. He, God bless him. He is imbued. This motherfucker, bro. He is imbued. This motherfucker broke. He is imbued.

You know, you know, like, you know, something everybody says in the Appalachian movement is he's not really a hillbilly. He's not this and that.

One look at that man, you can tell he's imbued with the worst Brathwick County DNA you've ever seen. And I say that as a man too imbued with that very undesirable

Scotch-Irish DNA. But no, he's the real deal, at least genetically. I didn't, I refrain from making any predictions, I think, as far as I recall anyways. I don't remember making any major predictions. That's the one race. There's two races, actually. Rand Paul and Charles Booker. I already knew how that one was going to turn out.

But J.D. Vance and Paul Ryan, I was pretty sure J.D. was going to win. I was not expecting him to win by the margin that he did. Wait, he won by a big margin? Yeah, like it was pretty significant. I don't know if it was double digits, but it was close to it. Why? How? That's what I don't understand. I thought that it would kind of be like a Matt Bevin,

Herschel Walker thing, where, like, the candidates themselves is so unlikable. And toxic, yes. That they managed to cancel out all of the potentially great things that they would be bringing to the conservative table, like culture war, anti-trans, and all that shit they're obsessed about. But, no.

Apparently they fuck with J.D. in Ohio. So, I don't know. Wait, so he just won outright, so he's now the new senator. There's no runoff, there's no something like that, right? No, he dusted Tim Ryan. God damn, son. God, dog. Can you imagine this motherfucker in the Senate, man? no like runoff there's no something like that right no he dusted tim ryan god damn son god dog can you imagine this motherfucker in the senate man well now what's crazy is now you see

a path to jd vance president of the united states now yo don't utter what time and date is it let's note this shit shit down right now. Who else is like, I mean, I know right now it's like DeSantis is bubbling, right? The God Trump is, I had Bazay to say it. He's lost a step with Ron DeSanctimonious. Nah, nah, he's workshopping it, bro. He's workshopping it. He did have a fucking heater yesterday, though. Is he back?

Yeah, it was hilarious. He had a quote that was like if the republicans do bad it's not my fault if they do good it is my fault oh yeah yeah it is it is my fault that's fucking great yeah it's perfect i think i should get all the credit if they do poorly i don't think i deserve any of the blame he said that with a straight ass face i love it blame he said that shit with a straight ass face i love it uh so i've made okay so he is back i mean i so he's gonna die in the next in the next if he wins this next term he will not live out the rest no he's fucking he's close the king is close to his deathbed and not earlier than joe biden though i don't know it's a race you though. I don't know. It's a race.

You're right. I don't know. You know the first X-Men movie where I think it's the governor or the senator or whatever and he like turns into like... Turns into Gush. I anticipate that's what's gonna happen to Trump. He'll just collapse into a blob.

That scene always scares me. That's one of my greatest fears. When he dies they'll have to mop him up i know that's one of my great one of my greatest fears is dying like that having to be mopped just listen everybody dies but try not to die gelatinously scoop your ass yeah like if someone is having to wring out a mop of me that's no good so there could be i don't know maybe that's premature i don't know i don't fucking have a clue because i don't have a finger on the pulse whatsoever i've completely given up i don't give a fuck anymore but i do there are a few interesting like you know

details from this one of which is what we were talking about already that crime wasn't as big a factor as they thought it would be um and that perhaps the liberals were able to peel off some conservative voters with their own appeals to crime and respectability that well you would think that would i mean what about the jd vance tim ryan right so because like jd vance just like ran on like all the crime trucks and stuff like that yeah tim ryan tim ryan spoke out against like at the debate he got clapped i think for saying that like okay like i understand your politics but what happened that day is fucked up like a police officer died and people clapped for it. So I thought that, you know what I'm saying? Right. Well, then I guess if that's not true,

then it could be like what? Well, I guess it's fuck me then. Let me give you another detail though. This is interesting. I thought, and this is what a lot of pundits were saying, this is what they've been saying for fucking two years, is that Republicans from here on out are not going to accept any election election results did i say erection results erection results we went back to the speedos erection results

that they're not going to accept any election results from here on out but how many conservatives have you seen um like none they've all basically conceded if they haven't been poll watching also i didn't see any all right so this is the midterms but yo the way that and you know what i'm gonna hold my tongue maybe should hold my tongue because who knows maybe two years from now when the presidential election right i know you're in half it could be like you know yeah motherfuckers with guns and shit but dog like it was relatively smooth in atlanta it was pretty chill and that's what i was thinking about like you were saying terrence like even posters right like because i saw a lot of people online doing like you know this is what's gonna happen i'm like dog like that's like reading into the tea leaves man that's like being ancient man and looking up at the cosmos and

trying to figure out something about life yeah the oracle at hellfire for huffing the gas the sulfurous gases exactly and it's like dog i have like i could not have expected that herschel walker was gonna come this close and make it to a runoff i didn't think that jd vance was gonna fucking win i didn't even think that i pretty much thought that john federman was gonna get it probably but i guess my point is that like i've stopped uh prognosticating too because none of this shit to me i can't just read the tea leaves right but i don't know man like somehow like i mean i don't know what i'm saying man how do you how do you move forward in this kind of realm i mean not for me personally because i mean i guess i don't really give a fuck but like for the democrats right for liberals

right even for conservatives i mean i guess the conservatives might just double down. They'll probably circle back to their cultural wars. Well, I think, and this is something I've heard people like, what's the guy that wrote Reactionary Mind? Robin. Corey Robin. Other people have made this point too. This is not an original observation. I think that probably we could chalk up some of that to the idea that like Republicans are so fucking. How do I put this?

They're the least popular people that manage to constantly stay in power. And they do that by, you know, their abilities to forecast and sort of sort of change with the wind. Right. In a way that the democrats don't do that's i think that's why when we're talking about like a democratic project not in not in the sense that we would talk about it but as like the democratic party like sort of the democratic right right right it's something that you have to look at over a period of time whereas the republicans can kind of get back in it fairly quickly mostly because they don't believe in anything but part of it is just like the you

know the um uh the alex perrine thing with mitch mcconnell's like mitch mcconnell's politics are simple he's just like where's the money at okay that's what i believe now i'm a i'm a reagan republican well now i'm a bush person well now i'm moderate well now i'm this now i'm gonna be a trump strategy basically yeah yeah just whichever way the wind's blowing you just you know just reorient your your sort of politics and worldview and how you move in washington to that and that sort of curbs the need to like have like a 10, 15 year rebuilding project. Some of the Democrats, I guess,

I don't know if it would be necessarily good on our side, but like, yeah, yeah, it would have been because like if the Democrats would have just like kowtowed to the Bernie movement, you know what I mean? Like they would have been so much better off because that would be i mean we saw that last night kind of with the ballot

initiatives right progressive ballot initiatives not candidates progressive ballot initiatives like did better you know i'm saying like then even with the electoral gains that democrats made you know yeah yeah i wonder if it's possible that republicans kind of made a tactical retreat in a sense because they did not. You're right. They did not. That was not very articulate, but I get what I'm saying. Yeah, I understand. You're right.

What you said earlier, they did not campaign on that ballot initiative on abortion in Kentucky. I saw a few signs here and there. But you saw way more vote no on that by a factor of 10 everywhere so like i don't maybe they saw it like that victory over the summer as a win obviously it was for them but they were careful about overplaying their hand so maybe it's kind of a tactical retreat i don't fucking know it's just well well tom you brought up the uh reactionary mind thing and like i was telling somebody earlier like like reactionaries like theyaries, like you were saying, they're very adaptable, right? So any sort of nominal progressive social movement progress, they always can reinvent themselves and react against it. But actually, I think that's because I think they do have conviction, even though they believe in heinous shit.

I think they do have, if not conviction in their beliefs, conviction in power and exercising power. Yeah, yeah, totally. Whereas the Democrats, it's kind of like, like I said, man, they didn't really campaign on anything. Like, I think of the Stacey Abrams, right? Or even like, all right, Warnock did a better job, I guess, because he actually campaigned on things. But it felt like more for, no, I'm not going to lie. He did campaign for things because it didn't really feel like the usual democratic like oh well vote vote against this right rather than voting for them you know but generally the democratic mo is like especially

when they appeal to like black communities marginalized people it's like oh you're gonna vote for the republicans you know they're not we're not them you know right so you have no choice and it felt like yeah man maybe conservative, voters just were tired of the whole culture war thing, too, man. Which is like not to say that, you know, these this is just a cultural issue. This affects people's material lives. But somebody had a tweet that says some shit like like Matt Wall saying, what is a man and a voter saying, I don't really care. Aren't you supposed to be doing politics? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I think that Republicans, or I should say conservatives, all across the board, because that's a very wide spectrum of a lot of different contradictory factions and beliefs. They are way more comfortable, in a sense, well, it seems like, especially in the last

five years, they're way more comfortable with extra electoral action and means like they're not afraid to sit out an election or two if it means eventually getting what they want because they still firebomb abortion clinics they fucking do these doxing campaigns and run people out their They got their foot soldiers. They deputize people, dog. The Democrats don't. Yo, that's when I realized the Democrats can't deputize people like that. You're right. They deputize and they terrorize. They are able to, like, everyone throws around this term, like, stochastic terror.

But there is a truth to that in the sense that they're able to spread this kind of ambient terror throughout the population on these issues in a way that does allow them to be a little more agile when it comes to this stuff and progressives just don't have that mostly because on the left on all fucking broad you know even to the most like communist left anarchist left or whatever there is still this moral duty to have to participate in the electoral process in some way and i think we all cool face it right but and i think that creates i don't vote exactly my ass up to the polls yeah i've been saying for years i'm done and every year they pull me right back in i said that this year bro i bro. I didn't vote. He did the right thing, Terrence. I think that creates an unrigidity or it creates

a rigidity that's hard to break out of. And you saw this with stuff like the Charles Booker thing, where it's like there's no strategy here. There was no input or cooperative like large scale saying that this may not be the best use of our resources perhaps

these resources and you see this with stacy abrams and beto all this fucking money goes into these campaigns that there's no strategy overall strategy towards it's just you feel like you're beholden to them there is a rigidness or rigidity that you have to sort of uh tack to because there's a feeling that there's no way to coordinate any other alternative or extra electoral thing and and you could rebut that and say but terence there's unions and there's direct action and all this stuff but does that have the same overall effect as someone like firebombing buildings and assassinating people and stuff like i i don't think so i mean unless we're prepared to step up step up tactics but when i say we again there's no no consensus on what that is right like like mega liberals well that's the thing about terrorism

terrorism is just a kind of force that by its very nature by participating in it does it doesn't need any kind of like democratic process it's just like violent go just create violence and chaos yeah right so it's like that it it it lends itself well to their over like long-term project project yo let me give you an example too yo i found this out yesterday. I was looking shit up. So SB202, that was the anti-voter bill laws, what they called it in Georgia that Brian Kemp signed last year, March. One of the things that is that any voter can present unlimited challenges to any other voter, right? That they find that it's suspicious or fraudulent and whatever and what essentially happened is that like you had voters like gop voters that were challenging like the votes up to like 130 000 votes of like mostly black and brown people like exclusively black and brown people right right and that sort of deputization of illiberal politics but like this passed through

the state legislature and he signed it i mean it, it doesn't mean it was democratic, of course, but like they use these legitimate means for illegitimate ends and then they inspire. And I mean, like I said, deputize these vigilantes to go out and carry that shit by themselves. And I guess when you think about the institutions and the structure of this country, I mean, they're just want to make it more of what it already is. Like these institutions already kind of built in For anti-democratic purposes, but there's nothing really like that On the left like i'm not saying that we need to play by the rules But like no, no, I mean these motherfuckers are playing by the reason why is because we all think we've all been completely

Saturated with this idea for the last five years that democracy is dying And so there is a hesitancy and it's real and i understand it and i myself even feel this way sometimes there's a hesitancy to put pressure on those pressure points on those like cracks in the facade that does not exist on the right the right is totally fine with that it's like that it's like that story we talked about a few weeks ago right after the flood where uh right-wingers were getting there like you said aaron they were deputizing people to flood local uh was it like what's winston mead do like like clerks like clerks offices on voter rolls like exactly what

you're saying basically getting them to release all their voter rolls over the past and results over the past like five years so that these vigilantes can basically cause the sort of wills of administrative tasks to jam jammed up right right and and then and because they have no qualms with it they see all of those institutions as structures as illegitimate and honestly... There's a hand-drenched to their power. Right, right. And I don't think that there's any force on the left that's willing to harness that. And honestly, I don't even know if that energy is there to be harnessed.

I mean, I don't know if any of us are willing to be deputized to go out there and grind these things to a halt because a would it be effective b would it engender sort uh support for us within our communities it might actually isolate there's no fucking way to know well dog like that's why like i guess man i hate the term authoritarian communism you know what i mean i'm like i don't i'm not like a stalinist or anything and i hate like i hate these ideas but you know what man i'm thinking about it i'm like maybe like that kind of hard power on the left like maybe that was the last time that kind of actually existed and maybe in countries like china now but it's like you can't really have any model like that in this

country for the american left you know what i mean like what are you gonna do you're gonna inspire masses of working people to march up to the capital you know what i'm saying and depose these motherfuckers like that all that sort of ideology or that i guess that inclination i don't even say to just violence man because violence is not an opinion really it's just a tool right it just seems like liberals and even us on the left are unable to deal with that and i'm not saying that we should you know we should uh uh we should should praise the ghost of Comrade Stalin, but I mean, like, I don't know, man. Like, how does the left contend with power

in such a way that, I mean, we don't, we don't like abandon our values, but we're also willing to use and exercise power. I mean, maybe we're also just not there yet, right? Like, I don't even know what I'm saying because we're not there yet. The right seems to be there as sort of, I don't know, quasi-revolutionary movement.

But I don't know, man. I don't even know what I'm saying because I don't want to make it sound like, yeah, we need to be storming the Capitol and we need to be kidnapping governors from states and shit, you know? We're in a situation of extreme decay. And I think that terrorism is very conducive

to advancing one side's agenda in that situation. And the left doesn't have a way to harness any change for intervening in that decay. I don't know what it would be. I don't, I personally, I'm convinced it's not voting. There are some things like ballot initiatives and maybe like a couple da races here and there just because i think like i said before it exposes the contradictions and stuff but i don't think it's that that i mean could it be uh at the workplace could be i mean i i don't know but at it at the point being is that we're in a situation of decay, and I don't know what the correct actions would be

to harness any kind of movement to... I mean, because you don't want to halt the decay, because this has to go, right? You need an overhaul. But at the same time, you don't want to push it in a direction to where when it finally falls, the people that can take advantage of that are these fucking crazy lunatics who want to kill everybody and so you

you don't want to be accelerationist in that in that sense right yeah we're in a rock we're between a rock and a hard place it's well not to just abruptly switch gears here what did y'all think about those ballot initiative like initiatives in some southern states like to it protects slavery out of the state constitution i know tennessee was one of them i think maybe a few others like maybe there's like four or five tennessee and what else louisiana might have been yeah i thought it was it's definitely tennessee yeah i think maybe arkansas Missouri, maybe. Arkansas. Yeah. What do you think that was about?

Symbolically, I guess, and substantively, too. Damn, man. Yo, that's a good question because, like, I remember seeing online last night, like, you, the graphic. I don't know if y'all saw it. It's the most insane graphic I've ever seen. You decided. Slavery ban. You know?

It's just like. I thought the science was in on that in the 1800s did it yeah did it lincoln say that or jerry first 1863 dog like i'm pretty sure that's what i mean well we know slavery is kind of you know like you every once in a while you hear a story about like a ultra wealthy wasp couple that have like a filipino housemaid you know what i mean or the clinton yeah or like the clinton shit but uh yo dog i don't know man that's a good question because it's like i felt it was really oh what's the word for it anachronistic like out of time to be seeing these headlines about banning slavery and i'm like dog it's the year 2022 but like

somebody was trying to say that like it was uh it was one of these states becoming a right to it was basically like a right to work thing you know yeah like that was the implicit the implication but like i mean i don't know interesting so like the initiative was like sort of sold as a right to work thing yeah i think it was sold as a right to work thing which is like interesting i don't know man to me it just said that oh so that means some of y'all just really i mean not that you ever want to be in a position where you are literally like a slave like you know a prison worker but that just means that like american politics like it's about inflicting damage and as much pain as possible on whoever you perceive as an enemy

yeah so even if it means that people in jail who have fucking never done anything to you like yeah those people shouldn't be able you know what i'm saying it's just like and then it was actually there was a ballot initiative here in georgia on the flip side that is just insane to me this was initiative it said some shit like if elected officials like all these different positions are being investigated should they still receive compensation from the state while they're under investigation i was like dog the fact that you got to even ask that question who is sitting there voting like licking the boot vote like actually yeah i think they should say listen am i under indictment sure but i don't deserve to have my income cut off a lot of people they'd be like you know what actually i don't think am i have i engaged in

malfeasance of public office sure Sure, but I got mouths to feed. A lot of those amendments are worded so confusingly that I can't even keep up with them. So it's entirely possible that in Kentucky, people saw an amendment proposition that said abortion, and they were like, no! No, no, I don't support abortion, and that's why. Bro, I'm not gonna lie yo when they you know they got the diminu machines here like i'm just trying to get the fuck out of that voting place i almost voted for herschel walker bro because i just saw war i saw a wa and i was like all right boo yeah that's my man herschel warnock and it could have also been that way for slavery

too for the uh yeah like people are no, I don't want to... What it is, is it's like white people who are afraid... Remember how after Obama got elected, they were like, white people are going to be enslaved now. Yeah. It's like white conservatives, they were getting out ahead of it. They were like, oh, shit, if that ever happens, we have to make sure there's laws on the books. We can't be enslaved. Yo, let go of what we said.

I swear to God, like, it's a perennial fear that, like, black people are going to do to them what they did to us. And I'm like, nah, bro, I'm not going to enslave you, dog. Listen, that is, we joke, we jest for sure. But I really think that that, among other neur neuroses is at the heart of a lot of white politics it really is if that's true that the ballot initiatives across the board trended towards more left-leaning causes and it it is interesting that in kentucky you know you had every election basically across the board come up conservative. But on that initiative, on that initiative, like it still swung towards like a left position.

that people have all across the board basically acknowledged that figureheads people as like avatars or vehicles for change are just not gonna cut it which yeah i don't know if i agree with that or disagree like i think you have to have leadership and you have to have all this other stuff but like in today's modern society where you can have celebrity with your phone and like your your persona is mediated between you and the public by this these large tech companies and social media stuff like i think that most people have written that off as like an avenue towards change and then you see it just in the popularity of congress you know what i mean like they do these polls about how popular congress is and they're all nobody fucking they're always like overwhelming majority of people fucking hate congress yeah man you know what that's a good point man and i guess like

i mean to be a little bit optimistic i mean i guess i don't know if it's that people are tired of conservative bullshit i don't really believe that i don't think that the culture war is going away anytime soon like these motherfuckers like are going to find a way to reinvent it. That's the same thing that Corey Robbins talks about in that book, Reactionary Mind. But I do think, like, I mean, people care about, like, the economy, man. They care about inflation. They care about access. Even if, like, you don't agree with abortion, you care about, like, hey, man, what if somebody, like, you know, gets raped and you don't want to have to be forced to have a child they don't want to have?

This is not my personal position, but I don't agree to have to be forced to have a child they don't want to have this is not my personal position but i don't agree with this you know so i don't know if that's so much an embracing like embracing left-wing ideas as much as it is like people are desperate and in ballot measures and initiatives like i mean i don't know man maybe they see like some democracy actually at work despite the horse race maybe i'm putting too too much into it, but like I found that interesting, man. Like a lot of these, like abortion, for example,

like these ballot initiatives did a lot better than candidates campaigning for these policies. You know what I mean? Right. It was weird, man. Right. Very interesting.

Well, I don't know. One thing we can say for sure is like, there was a lot of fucking, um, like concern a lot of paranoia that elon musk taking over twitter and basically saying that people should vote for republicans because that would even out and we have to have a government that's equally balanced and everything where they don't do shit so i could keep making money is basically what yeah yeah i it seems like that concern was kind of overblown no it seems like no one listens to elon musk is what i'm saying except like a very small cadre of diehards bro i know a lot of cheaper ways than spending 44 billion dollars if you wanted people to yell

at you all day every day bro you know what, like, like, I don't understand it. He bought the website and everybody fucking hates him. Even the people that like him now are in his mentions being like, Oh, you didn't bring back all these conservative accounts. I thought you said you were going to do this. Well, that and all these guys have put their life savings in Dogecoin and Tesla,

and both are in the toilet. So it's like, they feel so betrayed by their God King, you know? Yeah. But see, that's what we were talking about man it's like maybe uh you know like maybe trying to read the tea leaves and trying to parse out meaning from all of these symbols that like we don't have either control over don't make sense to us uh maybe that's not the way to go man maybe i stopped trying to be a pro prognosticator or upholster you know yeah i mean well some people got it right but i didn't but i didn't get it wrong either because i didn't wait yeah i didn't i didn't get it right because i didn't care if you refused to weigh in you can

never lose that's exactly right exactly yo or you can even put your thumb on the scale and be like see i told you guys be like lebron you know be like lebron be like, see, I told you guys. Be like LeBron. You know, be like LeBron. Be like, okay, I probably won't get called on this. Right. I told everybody I was going to a runoff of Warnock and Walker. I told all my teammates in Miami that, too. Yo, that's what you got to do. You got to tell other people so that they can come back and tell other people that you were right, you know.

Right. Like by word of mouth. Yeah. Oh, shit, man. Yeah. We'll see what happens, man. Any final thoughts before we call this one? Nah, just, I don't know, man.

Just another month in Georgia of this fucking election. I will say it. I'm looking forward to it. It's really funny to me that Dems thought that they were going to – because that's kind of the thing, right? People always say that a midterm in a first-term presidential administration usually swings towards the opposite party. And so I think it's very funny to me that the Dems are still going to technically lose,

but because they didn't get wiped out, it's like a victory. It's a moral victory well i mean that was the thing too that was that was about charles's thing it was like when he said i've already won and it's like it's moral victories ain't gonna get it done people suffering you know what i mean i mean like it's a thing man i'll say this is like i saw a lot of dancing in the end zone last night you know and again i'm not gonna lie yo i had to reconcile it myself because i was salty i was like man everybody in good mood and good spirits and shit like that and i thought this was going to be the fucking not the end of the democratic party but this is going to be a blow and i was

like damn i gotta reassess myself but then i was like no i feel vindicated because i don't mean to sound like an asshole but dog what did they say if we elected two senators from georgia to the senate they said they was going to give us two thousand dollar checks we got fourteen hundred dollar checks what did they say about roe v wade what did they say about this and that so at the end of the day i feel vindicated to know what this party is full of shit and i feel vindicated to not even put it about double the scale because i already know what's gonna happen dude it's true they are full of shit it is entirely possible this is the end of the republican party though in its current form i mean i mean i don't i don't i don't really believe that but i do think that you can maybe make the argument just by looking at a few things i do think that january 6th is a bigger factor in

a lot of this than people want to admit because even even if you were like a trump person that probably freaked you out just a little bit right you're probably like oh yeah oh yeah i know i was freaked out i know probably maybe you freaked about not just because like you know that's a very crazy symbolic thing to do but also you're probably like looking through your facebook post over the last like three or four years like did i say anything that's gonna get the fbi at my front door yeah and they don't want to they don't want to fuck with that so i mean it's just it could that event could have caused such a you know uh a sort of like insane you know psychosocial you just logged on january 6th it's gonna be a very interesting day today i feel like yeah all you gotta do is like have lunch with your like you know your stepdaughter some shit

like that that you haven't seen in a minute she's coming home from college yeah i mean it's gonna be a great day today like okay the other guy's not fucking around with any of those january 6th people so that guy that unwittingly went to january 6th You're that guy that's just walked up in that bitch? That Mullins guy. Oh yeah. He just kind of forced up his life into January 6th. So if you're like a Trump person,

you're looking at that, you're gonna be like, oh man, are my politics illegal now? You know what I mean? You'd be like, I think I'm gonna lay low for a little bit.

I think that's what it is. If I had to do the Tom Sexton election day scorecard like I'm the todd mcshay mel copper jr of electoral politics i would say the two biggest losers are maga trump republicans and sort of the uh stacy abrams beto o'rourke like bernie's orphans that kind of spun off and became bloomberg people like beto stacy

charles to some degree i guess because stacy was running his camp i had a hand in his campaign uh and some others you know i would say those two groups are the biggest losers from yesterday and the little the little they're like little polyps they grew off of bernie's um i don't fucking know his forearm well you know they were they kind of came in under the banner of that but then like when bernie lost they all cut bait and was like well let's do bloomberg now well what it is it's fascinating those two candidates beto and stacy abrams it's like they go for these we said this earlier they go for these massive flashy campaigns and offices without having done any of the requisite like groundwork in building up like a base for that at the state level that the republicans have done like i'm talking about like state assemblies

like in the state houses and senates and shit like that you can't just fucking parachute into and i know they're from those states but still like you can't just fucking get all this fucking money and just run those campaigns and think that history is on your side and that that and that we might get lucky this time you're not an obama bro it's like exactly you're not an obama it's like a that's a waste of fucking resources b it's a fucking insult like and that's the thing that kills me about a lot of this stuff that like you're expected to vote on certain things because there's like the lesser evil thing and i'm not like i said i'm not across the board no voting or whatever but when you come at me with lesser evil shit i'm just gonna think that you think I'm a fucking idiot.

And I've got like ODD, right? I'm not going to fucking do something if you're condescending to me and treating me like I'm a fucking idiot. Bro, I'm not going to do something. Yo, somebody was telling me yesterday like, oh, it's your duty to vote. You live in Georgia. And yo, that shit, I was about to go to the polls and that shit pissed me off. I was like, don't tell me what to do, motherfucker. If I don't want to vote, I'm not going to vote.

But I was like, nah, let me go vote, bro. But like, I guess it's like that shit. y'all got good stickers with peach on it yeah yeah those stickers are pretty tight the stickers are pretty thick but yeah no for like a ballot initiative or something like that that i think would have a chance of fucking winning then yeah but like just doing these symbolic things just to like be on the right side of history or die on this hill or you know go out like the 300 because you suspect you're gonna lose by 20 points and you want to try to lose by nine yeah so it's like what the fuck is the point of this i got other shit i gotta do i'm i'm not gonna waste a minute of sleep over this or put my face in a bowl of cold water it's like kicking a

meaningless field goal when you're down 17 you know yeah yeah and it also too it just translates to a pity vote because i knew that stacy abrams was gonna win but she was on the ballot so i was just like well i'm voting down ballot democrat might as well just vote for her and uh i don't know man that kind of like again like what you said terrence it's kind of offensive that these people think that they could come in here without doing any of the work and get all this money and like do the obama thing you know but like and that's what i guess it is too is obama was was weird but he was like a chameleon like he was like this void that you could fill anything and you know you could see him as anything you wanted to see him as you know yeah stacy abrams and beto man except uh yeah i

mean they don't have any of that in any capacity well and there's no mechanism to punish them for their hubristic act and the whole and the only mechanism you have to do that is to not vote for them i mean that's it and they'll come back anyway and they come back anyway and they'll come back anyway they'll come back anyway because you can make a lot of money right right so it doesn't matter whether you do or don't vote for them just fucking kiss your ass and say goodbye because that's what's happening with this place this place is fucking going down baby who cares just get right with yourself get right with god yeah that's right yeah steal yourself for the day of judgment yeah exactly it doesn't matter

oh shit man yeah i'm not damn well to Well, to anyone that's feeling good about the election results last night. Well, it's just crazy. And I don't mean to, again, I really like Charles Booker, and I don't mean to keep harping on him, but I remember calling Terrence this summer. I heard a radio report that said that he had raised $37,000 to ram Paul's $2.7 million. Jesus.

At a certain point, when is it malpractice to sell people on this false hope? Instead, it's like his people running his campaign was spending it like, oh, we didn't take a single dollar from the Democrats. And that was like a point of pride. And I'm just like, you're trying to win this election on their terms and in their game. You know what I mean? You're not getting their support or any money is the same thing with that. Like the Matt,

Matt Jones shit. If we're going to harp on that, it was the same arc. He came on the show. If you remember, and he was like, I believe like I have a unique place in history to unseat Mitch McConnell. And then there were Democrats didn't give him any money and dah,

dah, dah, dah. And he ended up pulling out anyway. Right. You know, but it's just like, I don't know. There's something that hubristic like, no, I don't want to do the prudent thing that's actually going to put me in a position to help people.

I have to be go for the profiles and courage and unseat, you know, Voldemort. Is that is that a guy? Yeah, he's the president of ukraine okay augustus january voldemars lens yeah well it it again like i said there's no mechanism to enforce any bit of accountability on that there's no way to even pick your candidates you just get your candidates appointed to you either by the dcc or by the DNC or whatever, or by someone's personal hubris or something because they wrote a book or something. But there's no even process to even pick your candidate, much less to hold them accountable

on X, Y, and Z and whatever. And that's why that is a contradiction that will not be resolved anytime soon. And that's why i say make yourself right with yourself make yourself right with god me i'm getting i'm sober i've been sober for like what 50 days now 45 days that's that ain't nothing let's celebrate yeah i get i get a get a lot so i'm just saying that like i'm just saying just just you know just relax everything's fucked but that's all right everything's always been fucked what's the serenity prayer some shit like the things that you cannot change blah blah blah

blah listen man see i i'm a really bad student when it comes to this but uh but whatever you just said i'm like lebron i'm like lebron like yeah whatever you said said. I'm like LeBron. I'm like LeBron. I'm like LeBron. Like, yeah, whatever you said. Yeah, what's your favorite line from Sobriety? No. That's a very personal thing. It's a little bit personal, sir.

Yeah, I don't know, man. Just, you know, don't be running for the cold water. You know don't don't be uh running for the cold water you know you don't need to walk outside just like you said Terrence just get right with yourself man yeah just you know you know read read some books is some shit I don't know smoke some weed well you know like if not like smoke like partaking and I don't know no you'd be California sober there is that is that is a thing that I found out about. Like, through Demi Lovato. She's got a song called California Sober. It's about, you know, you're still sober, but you smoke weed.

You smoke weed? Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Oh, shit. So, anyways, any final thoughts? Those were my final thoughts all right i'm just i'm just not looking forward to this next month of ads man i've been getting this most insane ads from uh i mean they just i could build like a

fucking house out of all these like flyers they sent me dog not looking forward to it you should that would be they build houses with coal around here as like a symbol to the past. You could build a house out of political fires. Out of political fires? Yeah. I gotta say, you know, I don't know anything. I met her once at a friend's house, but there's a Lexington Congresswoman, Hannah Legree,

that was out this morning picking up all her signs, and I don't know anything about what she believes but i appreciated that yes i do down here you'll see these election signs till the next election you're right i agree pick up your fucking election signs i gotta i gotta look i will say though i thought it was funny that uh people brought out there like people either still had their stacy Abrams sign from 2018, like, you know, like a, like, what is it called? Like a mezuzah outside of like a Jewish household. Like people left that shit up as like an omen of good faith.

To ward off evil spirits. It's like the 22 version of smearing Ram's blood on your door to steal away the... Yeah, the angel of death comes by your house and sees the stacy abrams side out front like nope gotta keep moving last thing i'll say it was really funny seeing that like apparently she changed like the color and the text a little bit of her new signs but people did it like on my block they never got the new signs it just brought out the old ones and i'm sure like from two years ago and i'm sure them shits are going right back in the garage with the attic man until next time because we haven't seen the last time or beta oh god or beta man um all right

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