Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 272: The Mt. Rushmore of Liars (w/ Special Guest: Bryan Quinby)

Episode Date: December 30, 2022

Friend of the show Bryan Quinby of Street Fight Radio fills in for Tarence as we talk Jerry Falwell Jr., George Santos, Andrew Tate vs. Greta Thunberg, and why a man ended up on death row because of a Jeff Ross roast. Subscribe to our Patreon: Patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty Subscribe to Bryan's Patreon: Patreon.com/streetfightradio Check out Aaron's other pod: Everybody Loves Communism wherever you get your podcasts.

No, I don't want no scrub. Scrub, na-na-na-na-na. I don't even know the words, man. But. Yeah, I'm here. I'm recording. All right, everybody's here. Yeah.

Well, I get on here, first thing I hear is y'all been potting behind my back. That's pretty classless. We have been, man. We've been cheating on you. We did. We did. I cheated on you a little bit, too. I mean, it's funny because both me and Aaron are kind of cheating on you because we both

co-host stuff with you. It's like a throuple. It's like a throuple, and we've been fucking and not telling you about it. Behind your back. Yeah, we have a deal where if we're going to fuck, we all three have to be there. That's the polycule, man. Y'all just had to cut out the weakest link.

Had you staring in with your hands on the window. Are we really having that much fun when Tom's around? Let's be honest. Let's when tom's around let's be honest let's be real yo tom's sitting in that chair in a hotel room that the chair they call the cuck chair recorded what's going on in that guy's mind you think i mean i know in the porn he's just you know paid to sit there but like you know the guys that are really into that you know i mean i suppose it's just like let's get the hog crank in here like that's the thing to me is like if he's not jerking off then because like a lot of times you see in in in like you see these

situations and the guy's just kind of sitting there with a camera or something you're like you ain't getting nothing out of this what are you gonna do later on not even looking like he's like like having any pleasurable feelings like you gotta be like it's stone faced like he could be waiting a lot at the bank or some shit you can't even tell you know yeah yeah you're like dude at least enjoy yourself over here while all this is going on did you watch the uh uh the fucking jerry falwell jr no documentary by billy corgan corbin yeah yeah that's the that's the church dude man that's the uh the preacher yeah that was his wife like they hooked up with his wife like they hooked up with this dude who was pretty young and uh let they were just like jerry

falwell jr liked to see people fucking his wife and uh so they they like they fucking started a business for this guy they gave him all this money through the through the school and stuff it's the guy that made uh bigger stronger faster made it it's on a hulu and it is it it's fucking i was watching with my wife and i like kind of knew some of the story and i was like you're sitting there watching it you're just so excited to get to the part where he's standing there with with his like shirt tied up and just hanging out in the corner yeah it's so fun that movie is so funny because it is like like the guy that they got the guy that was the uh uh dude the well i guess i call it a bull no yeah they got the guy that was doing it like that that was fucking his wife like they got him

so yeah and it's his it's an interview with him and he's just like i ain't you know uh he was working at this hotel in miami that's like this really famous hotel and uh he was like you know there's a lot of hot girls there and stuff like that and then this this like older woman was like hey man you know you want to fuck me in front of my husband or some shit like that and then he talks about because he's not into that shit yeah he talks about how jerry falwell jr is like there with his phone camera just like trying to get good shots and stuff like that did he get paid for it too like and they like you said they helped him start a business i hope he did the footballs are loaded he got some money right like like i know that they he had this idea for a hostel in miami oh that's right and uh they got that for him like they bought the building

outright and and let him run this this hostel in miami we're gonna sign up to be a cuckolder man i would do that easy gig right Man, that's an easy gig. Listen, anybody listening out there that's into that, I will fuck your wife for real estate. Yeah, yeah. Hit me up in the DMs, please. I'll fuck your wife for a lot less, actually. For nothing at all, baby. I talked about this in the past on my show about, well we did this we did a podcast once in la and somebody's

like you probably get like 40 a picture of your feet like of my feet i showed them my feet they were dominatrixes and they were kind of telling me what i could what i could fetch on the market and it was like 40 a picture and like my dream is that like like somebody wants my old underwear or something like that. That seems like the greatest fucking hustle of all time is the women who send people their underwear. Like, oh, it would make me so happy if somebody was like, Brian, let me have your old underwear. I'd be like, all right, man, you got them. Look under my bed with pairs of unwashed boxes and drawers that I have. With holes and shit out of your moldy.

Had to get rid of the bidet. Gotta get rid of the bidet, though, because then they're not getting what they paid for. They're not getting the skid mark, man. They gotta get a little Hershey stain in there. But yeah, I can't wait for you to see that Falwell movie, Tom.

Have we covered Falwell on Holy Boys? No, actually. That's kind of a glaring omission, isn't it? I think we do it because Falwell is a weird one. Because the guys that I feel are in our wheelhouse are the hustlers. I mean, I like the prosperity guys so much that like i will like the money guys yeah i will so not the true believers then right no i hate those i mean essentially what i think holy boys is and and to an extent like uh grifters like like insincere i i call them carneys

i like i like carneys like i like a a guy with a hustle that you fucking look at some of these guys kenneth copeland like he's a true believer but also he's like you know what i could get a lot of money out of these people and i kind of like that yeah the american tradition the political ones are good because haggie i i like to do in haggie a lot because he he is not a prosperity guy but he is a guy that's down in texas trying to like bring in the end of the world. I love that. I love that shit. He's actively trying to breed a perfectly red calf to usher in the second

return of Christ. Wait, like a literal red calf? I like to imagine there's a lot of guys in their garage doing the same thing all over America, too. Guy painting his calf. That's the thing that Hagee doesn't do. This is why you know a lot of these guys are true believers, right? Is that Hagee could dye a calf's hair and probably make a fucking billion dollars.

Like, come on down to Texas and look at this red calf. It's crazy. The end of the world's coming and he doesn't do it. And you're like, what are you doing, dude? I would have 10 red calves by now yeah no that that yeah there's like with holy boys there's like the just straight up hustlers the copelands the duplantises and stuff you know like the the charismatic guys and then there's like the real politics guys like uh the focus on the family dude we did. What's his name? Yeah, that guy's an asshole. That was such a depressing episode to do.

I got left there feeling so bad after I saw that. So wait, let me ask a question about the political guys. Is the politics like part of their grift or do they like genuinely

somewhat believe that they can usher in like, you know, whatever religious, you know, whatever denomination whatever it is whatever religious beliefs through politics like are they sincere about it i think they're true zealots i really did yeah but i think that they also you know i i tend to think that

they also like they're guys that really believe it like it's kind of like like i really believe in this thing but other people really believe in this thing too and they'll pay me a bunch of money to tell them about the thing because i think essentially what the people that that are in those churches they already have their mind made up about what jesus or whatever whatever religious person wants and they just need a guy to tell them that they're right i don't i don't think any of these guys are like they're educating them a little bit on on like specific bible verses but to me it feels like and i've talked about this with tom and and on holy boys

in the past is like uh with pro wrestling if you're on the outside of pro wrestling the people think that you think it's real right yeah but you know on the i know on the inside we know i know it's not fucking real there is real stuff happening like backstage and that's stuff you can follow but while i'm at a wrestling show i'm of course going to act like it's real. Why would you go? That's part of the spectacle, right? The suspending belief part. There's a lot of people that can't wrap their head around how all that works.

I was listening to a podcast about, I forget who it was, it's this weird left show, and one of the panelists was talking about how they're not able to watch horror movies because they can't like just they can't put it down you know what i mean and i know that's not like a one-to-one with like wrestling or you know the sort of but it is no but it is though it's the same dude it's the same thing with like uh you know i don't mean to i don't mean to like piss

anybody off with discourse about movies that have been talked about a lot but i mean avatar right like i love that shit you know and there are people who i feel like like they can't turn off this certain part of their brain to just enjoy something for what it is in the medium that it is you know what i'm saying so either either to them it has to have a message or has to be either their politics or not like reflecting it it's like dude i watch they could they could never enjoy tulsa king like me and brian i haven't started it yet tom and oh my god i'm waiting for katie to go back to work i'm waiting for katie to go back to work and then that's the first thing i'm fucking because there's no way she's watching tulsa king you're gonna love it i'm sorry i didn't even catch you. But I think I think like like I think that like people I think I see this with the Trump people, too.

And any of these people is like, I think that the guys sitting in the audience at a Trump rally, like getting really excited and screaming and wearing the weird. I think they know he's a bullshitter. I don't think there's a lot of people that think that trump really believes the things they believe i think that we look at it from the outside like these guys are morons i can't believe they believe this and they just see him as an a means to an end he they don't think he's god they don't think he's rambo but you know he's in on the joke with them too and that's the point of it right is that he knows he knows that they know that they're in on the joke and that's what they like about it you know and where did he learn it you know what i like if you think about where he he's credited vince

mcmahon a lot with like learning how to hold that audience in that way if you can look at like when he did that wrestlemania which biggest buy rate in the history of of wrestling like on pay-per-view that's the biggest that's the biggest still to this yeah it's the biggest wrestling pay-per-view ever and he was the good guy and i think that like he at that point decided like well shit you know i can get people to like me by just saying things which all wrestling is is like if you're a good guy your goal is to just get everybody to like you in the room so you say things like you people are the greatest and if you're a bad guy you fucking say all the women here are ugly and then people you know what i mean it's not like a complicated art form it's basically like politics man i mean that's

literally what politics is right it's about showmanship you know what i'm saying and it's like the presidents have been increasingly getting more like like oh it's on one hand people say oh i'm with this guy like because i like this guy because i feel like i could sit down and have a beer with him but at the same time he's like telling you like knows just what to tell you to rile you up you know what i mean it's just gonna get more performative and theatrical bit yeah yeah yeah it is it's it's amazing because it is looked at like that's what i think is funny about the way that we talk about politics now is a lot like the way we talked about it when it was like these intellectuals on tv that were like oh yeah it was like gore vidal talking to like barry

goldwater or whatever like that yeah there was a veneer at that time of respectability and these are our our smartest people and and and i think that like people at the new york times or people at npr i think they still report on politics as though we live in that era. The truth. Yeah. Yeah. But we live in an era where we have Hulk Hogan and fucking, uh, like, I mean, Herschel Walker, man,

like, come on, dude. Yeah. It's just not as nuanced. The evolution up from that, I guess like, you know,

I mean, I don't know if it's going to have the same valence, but it's like, you know, influencers as politicians, you know what I'm saying? Like a millennial Gen Z, you know,'m saying like a millennial gen z you know that is if any of them uh survive these sec inquiries about like pumping up schemes and stuff like that y'all seen this no i i i did talk we talk i talked to you aaron on my show because i i was going through that thing about like the rock i think could be

could hold office yes i think very easily and i think that like he's hit this point in his career as you as you saw with like black adam and stuff like that like five years ago anymore yeah and five years ago five years ago people would have said there's no way that this guy is ever going to – he's the most famous guy. He's the biggest star. He has the most money. And now we're kind of like, well, he's kind of a loser.

He hasn't had a hit in a long time. He's plateaued. Here's the thing about The Rock, too. I used to love The Rock. To me, when I was a kid, there was nobody cooler. I'm talking about Nation of Domination era Rocky Maivia. You ain't like Rashiki shaking his asses in people's faces? You ain't fucking Rashiki?

I remember Rashiki. Rikishi. You're talking about Rikishi. The stick face. I see the reason I'm not a fan of his is that Vince used him to pick on people. So you'd get a match with Rikishi if Vince wanted to have a guy stick his whole ass in it. So, if somebody was in the ring with Rikishi on Raw, they were in the doghouse of Vince.

I didn't know that. That's great. You'll punish him with his ass. But, like, the thing that makes The Rock uncool to me now is there's nobody in the world that wants to be more famous than The Rock. The Rock wants to be the most famous guy alive. And it's went from being like, oh, he's got that power. He's kind of thirsty about it.

As evidenced by, did you see his team leaking these bullshit numbers for Black Adam to Deadline and stuff? He could not hold that l that that movie was bullshit you know what i mean like remember remember when he said that uh the power of the hierarchy power in the dc universe is gonna change like you know what i mean he's making this movie sound like it was gonna be like i mean i don't know like the dark knight you know what i'm saying right yeah but this is where this is now the time we've hit the time, right? Even if you were talking about former wrestlers that are actors, people are like, well, John Cena is better and fucking Batista is better. Like people respect John Cena and Batista more. So the rock is kind of third tier in that thing.

And I think this is the point where the rock's like, well, I can afford now to piss off half of the country and run for office because people already think I'm on the dissent. And I think that's where these guys is like Trump ran for president after the apprentice was starting to like people thought his run for president was to get higher ratings on the apprentice. his run for president was to get higher ratings on the apprentice but if you remember it was already on the downs downswing and then they had arnold schwarzenegger host the season that was there the first year trump was president and trump just shit on it like totally shit on it because the ratings went down and i think that's like what happens with a lot of that's what happens with a lot of... That's what happens. We've now hit a point where everybody has seen Trump. We all saw what happened with Trump. We all saw what happened with Hershel Walker. And that informs what we think politics are now.

You know what I mean? This is what makes up a politician. He's a guy who's kind of charismatic, that's willing to say anything to get you to smile it's kind of funny it's like it's like there are no there are no more worlds to conquer so i'll go try to conquer the actual one that yo that's exactly what i was going to say dog it's like it's like politics because the country's so polarized and has been for a minute now politics is like the newest well not the newest it's been like a grift right but it's at this

point where everybody has their own audience so even on the fringes which are coming more to the center is what it seems like like you don't have to believe any of this shit you know you could have been an actor in the 90s you know you could have been in real estate or some shit and now you're like yo this political shit looks real easy are you telling me one american news network is gonna like put anything that i fucking say no matter how bad she didn't say to this like yeah i'm gonna do this shit when it's right in trump georgia yeah and trump sort of yeah and and and and he showed them that and i i think like even a guy so a guy like herschel walker where you're like this guy's a fucking buffoon that doesn't even fucking matter at all at i mean you we were going to talk about

george santos right i don't think it matters that he's fucking lying i he might not sit but for the rest of his life job that's how they get the job is by lying bro i'm sorry this guy this guy fucking rules i love him this guy's kind of awesome. His mom died on 9-11. He said, my mom got killed on 9-11. On Twitter. Every time I find out a new lie, it just keeps unraveling, man. It just keeps unraveling. I love it. I don't know that I've met.

Okay, but Brian, you're our lies correspondent. In fact, you're our guys correspondent. You know lots about different types of guys and liars are my top but that's your special guys yeah that's your that's your that's the the feather in the cap tom it's because when i was growing up uh i was always fascinated with the one friend that lies about fucking everything like the guy that tells you he was adopted. And you're like, motherfucker, you look just like your dad.

I saw your dad pick you up yesterday from school, bro. What you talking about? I used to hang out with this guy who looked exactly like nobody has ever looked more like their dad and their sister. And he was like, yeah, I was adopted. more like their dad and their sister and he was like um yeah i was adopted uh my parents were rich and they put me up for adoption and now i'm stuck living in this you know crummy working class house and it's like probably a way to cope like he just doesn't want people to think he's he's broke or whatever but like uh i just remember looking at him and being like why are you doing or i've told the story before he's the same guy that we were all kind of talking

shit about like we used to go around and break car windows and stuff in a neighborhood and just we like we were like really bad kids you know and one day he's just talking to us and he was like yeah man you know me and my friends were out and we decided we were going to break into buster douglas's car and steal his title belt and his ring and $250. Does Buster Douglas even live in Columbus? He does. He does. So that part tracks.

That part tracks. I don't think he keeps his belt and his rings in his car, though. It's a fatal flaw. He wasn't a total neophyte like I was when I lied when I was a kid where I said, like, Puff Daddy's, like, you know, like my babysitter or whatever. Your babysitter? Yeah. Like your stepbrother or your stepuncle or some shit?

My father invented Street Fighter for the Capcom Corporation. That was another one. I had a couple big loose ones, too. I know this type of guy because I was one of those guys. Well, that's truly what got me fascinated in a lot of these guys that I look at now is just like a guy like, you know, Mancow is the most popular greatest liar of all time that I cover. Is he? Okay.

Who's on the Mount Rushmore liars? Mancow. Mancow. And I'll tell you why. rushmore liars man cow and i'll tell you why because nobody in the history of the fucking world has ever actually went on the radio and said and on the internet and i can prove all this i was the last person to talk to herve velichez before he died okay he said that okay then he said i was the last person to talk to chris farley before he died that is on tape i have played it on my show he said it and then the motherfucker said i was the last person to talk to brandon lee before he died he said he called he said he called me from the set of the crow and said i don't really feel good

about this scene and then that was it nobody ever talked to him again and it's like why would you lie like that is a lie that is such an amount of lies this is such a heavy also and i mentioned this online yesterday he said he was at a party a new year's party and uh he looked over and the kids were playing with a ouija board and he noticed that the whole room stopped like time stopped and nobody was moving or anything like that so he ran over he grabbed the ouija board he broke it over his knee and then everything went back to normal and nobody remembered that so he told you to plot from a hem nice shabalot movie yeah he's so sick and i've never heard a guy like i've just never heard like that like he said he went to comic con one year and he was

invited to a party and jessica alba was dancing on the table and she was trying to seduce him. Which, by the way, go look at a picture of Mankow. She's trying to seduce him. And then he looked away, and he said, We got to get out of here because it wasn't really Jessica Alba. It was a demon. So he kind of crossed over there trying to snap up some of that. Who was that guy that we talked about that cast demons out? Rob Larson? Bob Larson. Oh, yeah. No, wasn't it? like snap up some of that uh who was that guy that we talked about that cast demons out rob larson

yeah oh yeah no wasn't it yeah one of those guys but he was trying to poke some of that evangelical interested in demons kind of crowd yeah and and so like he's this guy that just he tells these lies he's just a the thing about it is he's just a radio guy so like he's almost expected to lie in a way it's not a big deal he's just an entertainer when you do eight hours a day i mean yeah i mean you i mean you can't yeah you can't let the truth get in the way of a good story you also you also have to if you're this sant guy, man, it obviously feels like he figured out the grift in 2020 because he ran

for office and got destroyed in 2020. And then now he's like, okay, now I know what to do. And that's when he seems like he's just, I don't know. You shouldn't tell lies that people can easily be like, that's not true.

Easily verifiable. Especially if you run for higher office, man. The man count doing the, I was the last person to talk to this person before he died with three different incredibly famous people that had incredibly famous deaths. Like, that is just... It feels like... The cosmic. You know what I'm saying? It just feels like

you should... Santos is a bad liar because he didn't keep them straight. And that's a thing. Or I guess he doesn't understand. He didn't expect people to be like, let's take you know and that's that's the thing or he did i guess like he doesn't understand he didn't expect people to be like let's take a look and see if his mom died in 9-11 you can't be like mom you've been gone uh five years today in 2022 and then like also like five

years ago you said my mother i take this seriously because my mother died in 9-11 like you can't you can't lie about shit that like has publicly available records and like yo i've lied on resumes before like i mean i've lied for jobs that like i was not qualified for but at the end of the day when you're like wonderful and i'm surprised all the shit is just coming out after like he already won you know like did nobody think to like look this shit up while he was running but why would why like the thing is when you look at somebody like this i don't understand he's a politician he should be vetted and shit like that but when you do look at something like this like in my mind as a guy who follows tons of liars that you know all these guys i i love liars like i think

that like the the thing that people don't get about what a true liar is is that they 100 think they got you like they feel like they can just say this happened and like you'll just be like yeah because people like if you're at a party right let's just say you're at a party and man cow walks up to you're having this conversation he's like yeah brandon lee called me from the set of the crow and said i don't feel good about this scene and then he that's like that's like a lebron james-esque lie yeah you know lebron kind of uh tells the the future like in retrospect you know like that's how he does the lie. LeBron's a liar.

Like he famously, he's like kind of the liar du jour, you know. But to me, it's like if he says that to you at a party, you're just going to be like, oh, wow,

that's really interesting. Even if you don't believe him. Yeah. Are you going to tell him he's lying? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And people won't do it.

You're not going to tell LeBron James that he's a liar to his face? No. Hell no. Nobody. Whatever you say, he's a liar to his face. No, hell no. No, buddy. Whatever you say, King. I'll be looking up my work, King.

I wouldn't even tell a kid. I wouldn't say it to somebody not famous. I wouldn't say it to a kid. It's too fucking uncomfortable to be like, I think you're fucking lying. To look somebody in the eyes. To look somebody in the eyes and be like, you fucking liar. Why are you lying? Yeah, that's the unfortunate thing. You call a liar out, it's just going to bring the mood down in the eyes like you fucking liar yeah you're lying yeah that's the

unfortunate you call a liar out it's just gonna bring the mood down in the room so you just you just let them go with it you know what i mean talk about it later but then they go home and they're like damn i got that lie that lie was great damn i read you know what i mean i got voted tonight i'm a representative now from the u.S. Or even worse, they just believe it now. You know, they just kind of like. And you got to keep up with the lies? Yeah. Mancow probably believes, honestly, there's part of him that probably believes to some degree that he was the last person to talk to Brandon Lee.

Well, there is the lie. I think there are certain there are types of lies that like people will call you out. I think if you lie about your mom, the way your mom died, and if it was 9-11, because people have just like all this feeling wrapped in to that day. But I think that like what ends up happening. Like five years after 9-11. But I also think that what happens is nobody calls these guys out. Why would you lie about how your mom died? Yeah, if you're running for office, especially, why would you lie about that? People expect you to lie about other things, but running for office, people don't expect you to lie about personal details about your life. You know what I'm saying?

Why would you lie about that? The big one, though, obviously, was that he said he was Jewish, right? Jew-ish. Now he's doing a classic lying guy walk back. You get caught in it, and they think on their feet pretty quick. He goes, no, what I meant was that

Yeah I was Jew-ish Because You know the show Black-ish but Jewish Right Also no relation to a Jewish person Like Black-ish is because they're mixed Yes yes yes But

Well this guy's like This guy's doing the thing that we all did in Eastern Kentucky, which is we all said our great-grandmother was Pocahontas. Yeah. You pulled Elizabeth Warren over. Yeah, right. If you're going to lie about your ethnicity, it's got to be something that's tangible,

but nobody's going to check to see if your great-great-great-grandmother was on the rolls or anything. It's such a white guy thing Right? Yeah Like, you would want to be anything Like, guys would just be like I'm Irish I'm not white, I'm Irish

It's like, motherfucker, you're white Yeah And like, I never bought into Because I guess like It's this thing of like I don't care about my ancestry but like they're all like the guys just get like this guy uh uh i don't i don't even know what he thinks he was going to get out of this lie yeah and i don't know why he would make it

and it's one of again it's one of the only kind of lies people would be like i don't know why he would make it and it's one of again it's one of the only kind of lies people would be like i don't believe that man i don't i don't think you're jewish dude but also it is such a brazen one i guess especially in the post kanye air yeah i think it's such a brazen one i think it's such a brazen one to do in front of people. This guy has to. I mean, when it all started unraveling for him, I was just like, man, he just told one too many. If he had just told one less lie. If he had told one lie and a couple more similar lies.

See, the thing about lying like this, because as a kid, man, I knew this shit. If I lied about something to my mom, I'd have to remember that lie keep that lie in track have lies that follow that are similar you can't just lie and not keep them all in a row man because then you start slipping up then people like wait hold up you say your mom died in 9-11 now she died in in what now five years later she died in 2016 like this woman was alive five years after well actually she was at 9-11 and got like cancer from the shit there and she died like that's probably what he's gonna say that's probably what he's gonna say like when he's pressed on this i think at some point he is just gonna be like well you know fucking i would i may have i may have stretched the truth

a bit i think it'll be one of those like hey you know i have stretched the truth a bit. I think it'll be one of those, like, hey, you know, I stretched the truth a bit. I'm really sorry. And then in two years, he's going to be, like, he's going to be, like, sponsoring a bill that makes Donald Trump the king of America for the rest of time or something. I think that the thing about it is that, obviously, it's what I was saying earlier about reporters think that politics is this fucking intelligent, intellectual thing where people are having these conversations about how they're going to fix the world. And maybe they are. When we were on tour, we would go to places and that was all the conversations would just be us kind of talking about like you know how how you know wouldn't it be great if this happened wouldn't it be great if this happened and like that does happen but i think people are overestimating how often that happens and that there are more

santos guys than there are like i, I don't think there's any. True believers. Yeah, and I don't look at any of these guys as smart. I look at all of these guys as sort of personalities. They're just like famous people. Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what they are, man. Another thing, too, is just like, you know, I don't know what the majority of Republican politicians have said about this shit. But I did see that Marjorie Taylor Greene, and I mean, like, she's the craziest one, right?

But I mean, she was like, oh, the only reason that they're going after him is because he's a gay Republican. Like, at the end of the day, if this was a Democrat, yo, they would have, like, ate him alive. You know what I'm saying? They would have felt compelled to punish one of their own. The Republicans are just going to make a little stink about it, you know what I'm saying, for him alive. You know what I'm saying? They would have felt compelled to punish one of their own. The Republicans are just going to make a little stink about it, you know what I'm saying, for the spectacle. But, like, they don't give a shit. Like, they just got a seat in New York, dog.

Like, why would they punish this guy? Madison Cawthorn, the only reason they punished him because he was talking about coke orgies, dog. Like, you don't talk about the coke orgies, you know what I'm saying? Anything else is, like, is game, you know? Is this guy really gay is this gonna be one of those he lied about being gay too dog did he really no no no let me not say that but i mean i mean brian brian can you turn i'm losing you a little bit you're a

little bit quiet oh i'm sorry is that better a little bit a little bit more if you can okay is that better just the volume i don't know for some reason you were you were doing good and then the volume kind of do you notice that yeah i did it started dipping out a little bit is that any better that's a little too much okay how about that how about that okay that's good but i think that like i i i think that the republicans general genuinely do not care if uh uh he's lying like they're not gonna care i i don't think the democrats have like they're i mean i think that most people don't know about this right in the world like most people don't know about this and if i went around and knocked

on all my neighbors doors and said what do you think about this and told them the story they'd be like well yeah i mean they all they're all fucking liars yeah you know like that would be what that's all i mean that's really what it is i i think it's funny like i think everybody would find it funny but like i don't i don't think i trust anything this guy says i mean i guess i i i will say i'll let it go that he okay fine he's gay i just feel like the the the uh evidence is mounting that like i don't know what he like i don't know what he is now which is fascinating well what's gonna be wild is when we it's it's like felix's theory that somebody named like uh gustavo pythagoras mueller from brazil is usually the

great grandson of a nazi or something like that what's gonna be crazy is when we find out this motherfucker is one of those types plus he's got belgian ancestry so we don't need to even say anything about that shit either you know something's gonna happen i mean that's that's the other thing is like it's the same thing with guys like like uh uh i mean i just think that you can lie i i don't i don't i think politics is such a cesspool now and like it's literally, like I said, famous people are entertainers are who the politicians are increasingly becoming entertainers to the point that my daughter will probably be voting for like a pure like entertainer and 30 years. And I mean, also, also to man, like, this is a thing we talk about on the show to eat crisis, know that we bring up occasionally like just this crisis of knowledge right and at the end of the day like everything is a fucking lie we all know all these motherfuckers are lying i'm not gonna say that

trump is the first person to break that barrier but like he kind of was right like he'd go up there and just lie about shit and everybody knew that he was lying and then the media would try to like fact check him in real time and he would just keep lying on top of lying and lying and it just so inundated with lies in a kind of media culture and i mean society where like nothing like knowledge is really not like known to us you know well that's i mean that was kind of like you were saying yeah this is kind of the origins of the e-crisis right like the man layered so many lies that like he actually almost single handedly sprung us into epistemological crisis not that we weren't already barreling toward that

but like just down as up up as that left and they're like this this is the kind of thing that produces the santos's of the world last thing i want to say about this guy this is hilarious i was listening to npr or something this morning and uh they were they were talking about this guy this is hilarious i was listening to npr or something this morning and they were they were talking about this guy claims to be worth two and a half million dollars and yet he doesn't have a job yeah or like any like remarkable tax filings or anything like that and when pressed on how he did that he just said with the knowing wink let's just say i made some good decisions yeah i saw that like i saw that like none of the places he said he worked

were on his resume which i find none of them very funny yeah like open black op shit dog he might just have like shady you know what i'm saying like post world war ii connections and some shit man or his family dog that's weird i just think i i think what happened is he's a he's a he's a fucking he's a truly weird dude i think he's just a weird dude really and and i think that like if we started digging i'm i'm sure if we started digging in these, because the politicians that came after Trump on Trump's coattails, I think are some of, like, it's such a weird kind of, they're entertainers, they're hustlers. They're like a rogues gallery, man. Yeah, you look at them and you're like, well, none of these people are fucking serious, but guess what? They're fucking serious. Like, they're going to exist forever and like the democrats haven't descended

down that path yet and that's why i've been thinking like you know the rock is a guy that uh once the democrats if the democrats run the rock, then both parties have just become professional wrestling. Both parties have just become guys cutting promos on each other. Well, won't they have to kind of win him from The Republic? Isn't The Rock famously a Republican? Yeah, he is a Republican, but I think, Brian, you and I would talk about it. He's not like a Trump Republican, right? No, he spoke at a Republican convention way back in the 2000s.

Like early 2000s when he was still with WWE. When it was cool to be a Republican. Yeah. With Democrats, it was like, oh, those are homies. I find it interesting, too, with George W. Bush was a guy that we would sit and pull our hair out saying, like, what? This motherfucker's lying. He never apologizes for anything. What the fuck? was a guy that we would sit and pull our hair out saying, what, this motherfucker's lying. He never apologizes for anything.

What the fuck? He doesn't do press conferences. He doesn't do any of that stuff. And now that's just normal shit that people do. What do you think is the reason for that? What do you think is like nobody ever accepts when they're in the wrong anymore? Because if you do, you have to then take it. Is this like a rebuke of accountability culture or something? Yeah, this is the rebuke of cancel culture.

Yeah. It's like the dialectical nature of it. There's so much money in that too, right? There's so much money in keeping the lie going and just not letting up and never apologizing. I mean, George W. Bush got two terms, and it was on the back of never apologizing for anything. And he still doesn't.

Well, and his dad famously said, I'll never apologize for the United States of America. Even when they clearly got their hand caught in the cookie jar doing heinous shit around the globe. Well, there's no consequences, man. And I think about 2008 a lot too like the 2008 uh crash and like none of these motherfuckers went to jail you know yeah like and like the fact that like just nobody has ever like motherfuckers who think that okay like last thing i guess i'll say the uh you know the january 6 hearings right like they

just the committee just closed right and they rescinded their subpoena of criminal charges with trump and we all knew this was going to happen but it's like yo you ever thought that motherfucker was going to see the inside of a jail like hell no man like nobody gets punished in america for doing bad shit you make money off of it you get famous what i thought was just absolutely batshit insane is this man literally arguably committed the only unpardonable sin mentioned in the scriptures, and yet enjoyed just rabid popularity amongst the evangelical Christian crowd. And this is a man that, when asked by an interviewer, said, talking about Trump, said, have you ever asked forgiveness for your sins?

Like, have you accepted Christ and asked for forgiveness for your sins? And the man said, I don't feel like I have to. And that was just fine. Post-truth. This man is literally committing blasphemy. And it's just like, nope.

Doesn't matter. The e-crisis has even reached the church, man. That's essentially where I want to live. You know, this idea that like, eh, you know, I say like Joe Rogan lives in that world too. I've seen that guy get humiliated 57 times on Twitter where he'll bring up like a meme. The recent one was like he was like he was about to cry watching this boxing match between a dude and his son and and and the dad just whips his son's ass and he's like he's doing this like

he's doing this like it's just so sad to me i can't believe this would happen and stuff like that and then the guy's like uh well they aren't't father and son. And he's like, oh, okay. And it just moves on to the next thing. It's like these guys live in a world where they never have to apologize for anything. They don't have to really know the truth. I mean, I looked at a meme that Elon Musk shared yesterday about the brainwashed one, the one about being brainwashed. The brainwashed one, the one about being brainwashed, right? And it had LGBT and MSNBC, CNN. And all the vaccines in the arms. But let me say this.

The guy on the other side of that is holding an American flag, which is the very first brainwashing we get when we're born. brainwashing we get when when we're born like that is the overriding to me that is the overriding brainwashing that beats all of those because we can never say anything's wrong with this country at all because it's against america and we're taught we're the greatest country like you know how long and tom you probably might be the same way. And Aaron, you might be the same. How long did it take you before you were like, you know what? I think maybe America's bad. Yeah.

Not long at all. Not long at all. It took me a long time. Aaron probably learned that a little earlier than most of us. Before I could even walk. I was like, hold on. That's why I said me and tom it's like it takes if you're if you're a white man that's that's like straight and white and yeah and living just

the normal or what people perceive as like the normal good life it's extremely hard for you to like you have to really be empathetic yeah to say like i think america might be bad and it takes us a very long time to get rid of it and what irritated me about the elon musk thing is like he still hasn't even like he hasn't put that with all the other things you know what i mean like atheists so atheists will be like i don't believe in god and it's bullshit i can't believe you would believe in that and i'm the same way but i also am like i can't believe you believe in like founding fathers and shit that's incredibly stupid yeah that's yeah by a factor of 10 probably more stupid than god i mean y'all know when you gotta in school and shit and like i mean before games and stuff you

know you'd say the pledge of allegiance so you sing the national anthem and shit like that man and that's just like so weird to me you know like even as a kid you know what i mean like i was never i guess you were never told to say it you know but you were frowned upon if you didn't you know right it's just like i've tried this is weird man i've told the story on on a few things that like in fifth grade i i think that's a bad kid you know what i mean as i said earlier i did drugs i ran with the bad kids we we did bad things and i remember in fifth grade i was like i'm gonna see how many days i can sit for the national anthem uh before the pledge of allegiance yeah as a joke like as as a like this is this is so funny and and i did get away with it for like two or three days or whatever

and i got into most trouble i ever got when i was in school for when they figured out what i was doing and i think what ended up happening was me and my friend were like let's have a competition and see how many days you can sit for it but we got in a lot of fucking trouble for that and it's just like people die for that thing And shit like that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Unquestionable thing That's the saddest part of it That people die for that

You know what I mean? I know That should be given cause Yeah The day that I was the most free In my life Was when somebody said People died for that

Died for you to have that And I said Well, they shouldn't have done that I ain't having that I didn't stick a gun in a gun and tell them to do it that's what i always say when a troop when a troop like how you're not allowed to question a military guy about what they were doing interact they're like you don't know you weren't there you know i know the culture and it's like you know the culture as people that you point guns at and

yell at all the time you don't know the culture at all if a guy was fucking pointing guns at me and screaming at me everywhere i fucking went i would hate him and want to blow him up listen before i cut y'all loose the last thing i want to talk about was this is just darkly sinister in so many levels but uh in te Texas, I don't know if y'all saw this or not, but in Texas, 2015, Jeff Ross roast of inmates at a penitentiary has been used in evidence to send a guy to his death, to the death penalty.

How did that work? Like, how did, first of all, Jeff Ross should be in jail. Isn't he a pedo? I think he's been me too. Imagine after they failed, they were all leaving and packing up their shit to go to crew. And they were like, nah, you stay here. I shouldn't say Jeff Ross is a pedo.

I don't know that. But I do know that if you weren't Dave Chappelle's any of the last two summers, there's a good chance that you've been a victim of cancel culture. And I know many eyewitness accounts, so they see that motherfucker paddling down the river in Yellow Springs. I have to say, I don't like insult comedy at all. I think I like insulting people, and I like roasts and stuff like insulting people and I like roasts and stuff like that and I like goofing on my friends, but what Jeff Ross

does is just looks at you and is like look at you, you fat piece of shit. So it's not like playing the dozens, like your mama jokes, like friendly banter, you know, like tit for tat. He's just like saying actually offensive, hurtful shit to people. He looks at, it's like Don, people are like, Don Rickles, heful shit to people. He looks at it.

It's like people are like, Don Rickles, he was such a genius. And it's like, Don Rickles would point at a black guy and make racist jokes at him in his audience. I mean, you think that's funny? I guess. Whatever. It's a weird fucking cultural thing. I'll give that to you. I'll watch it 100% of the time.

But it's also not super creative. Right. For the record, it's like, I don't care the record it's like i don't care i don't care if you like jeff ross or don't like jeff ross or whatever there's people i like that are awful too you know it's whatever oh god that's all i am but what what how did this end up putting this guy to death did the guy like say something so basically basically according to the article what had happened was as part of the roast they they would, I guess, I've never seen this. This is like one of those bad ideas, like when they were going to make the poor people compete in that show called The Activist.

Y'all remember that? Yeah. Or they did a show where they re-swapped a family. Right, right. Like they had a white family, the black face. Yeah, like this is just a bad idea it's a bad idea i have that picture i have the picture of that black and white produced by uh uh ice cube yeah i have a picture of that guy the the black face guy in my phone fucking it's so the guy the guy just looks like a white guy painted in a different color.

He's so happy to be a brother, bro. He's so happy to be black. He's gritted from ear to ear anyway. My bad, Tom. Go ahead. I guess I would say, can you imagine you get pulled over and you're in blackface? And it's a black cop. Sir, no.

Sir. Sir, you're like wiping it off your face. No, off here no no no no you don't have to shoot no you got the wrong idea man he's like listen brother he got the wrong idea friend of the show d davis a friend of mine and terrence's uh led this campaign it's been many years ago to stop cbs from doing this show called the real beverly hillbillies where they were going to take some like white like you know like just like hillbilly family probably from eastern kentucky or somewhere similar and put them up in like a mansion in beverly hills and then hilarity ensues you know that kind of stuff oh my god like monkeys in a

fucking cage i mean monkeys in like a man you know what i'm saying like releasing like you know what i mean yeah like civility or civilization or some shit jesus christ yeah fortunately they took on les moonves who has since been disgraced for sex crimes and won and won that one but but yeah so there's a history of this type of stuff but i guess what had happened with the roast was they were doing like he was like riffing with some of the people that were locked up and he there was the guy that was the subject of i think his name was like noah smith or something like that wasn't it hall no no a hall hall hall yeah something hall i can't see his first name yeah this guy hall and from hall and oak yeah and i guess yeah darryl hall gabriel gabriel hall gabriel hall right yeah and he asked the guy what he was in for hacking computers like as part of

the joke and he was like well something also he was a whole he was a filipino dude too that's another thing too right yeah he's making kind of like a racist joke yo yeah like asians oh yeah that's a jeff Jeff Ross joke there baby Yeah he really is just The heir to the Don Rickles Thing Always hated that shit so much And like it isn't even like

I know it sounds like I hate it For woke reasons But I hated it in my pre-woke times It has nothing to do with woke or not woke It's just not my thing It's not inventive it's not creative but I hated it in my pre-woke time. I always hated it. Woke or not woke. It's not inventive. It's not creative. I mean, you guys know I love offensive stuff.

I'm not against offensive stuff, but when it's offensive just where it's like, look at you. Did you steal something to a black guy? It's like, that's not. You like fried chicken, black guy? Watermelon? It's like, okay. Yes.

It's literally what a lot of that humor is. It's so, that's not. You like fried chicken, black guy? Watermelon? It's like, okay. Yes. It's literally what a lot of that humor is. It's so surface level. I'm going to look at you, look at me and say, well, not anymore because I dress so cool. But there's a time where you're like, are you looking at you, you fucking hillbilly, you fucking loser dad or whatever. And it's like, although, Tom, I would love to see the real beverly hillbillies they should they should send me and you put us up in there yeah put us up in a house i'll fucking ruin the whole neighborhood yeah yeah yeah but yeah yeah so he interviewed the guy

somehow or like pointed him out yeah and the guy was riffing with him and said well hacking something like that and i guess what he had done is he had stabbed somebody and like killed him or whatever and then like maybe stabbed his wife too or something like that his mother and stabbed the mother and son and killed him son and the mother i think it was yeah well that's what that's what i mean i was gonna say allegedly i mean that's what that's what i mean i was gonna say allegedly i mean that's what that's what he's allegedly in jail for right so i guess um what happened was they had used that piece of the roast as like his confession that he had done these things and had no remorse and had no remorse for it he had no And had no remorse for it. He didn't feel bad about it. And had no remorse for it

when really and truly he was, you know how that shit works, dude. I know. You know, it's like they bait you into saying shit. It's like the whole reason like Real Housewives or anything like that works is like, you know, that's just not an organic take. They're like, okay, let's run that back

and be a little crazier this time. Yeah, let's cut this out. Let's cut this out. Let's put this here. Let's make it seem like more like, I mean, it's a spectacle. You know what I'm saying? Make it little crazier this time. You know what I mean? Yeah, let's cut this out. Let's cut this out. Let's put this here. To make it seem more like, I mean, it's a spectacle. You know what I'm saying? To make it seem crazier. Right.

Yeah, we could talk about that being in poor taste or whatever, but the fact remains is that was not a sincere confession, and yet the courts of Texas are not hearing that. Yeah. I mean, it's a guy having a goof. And I guess you could say like ah that's kind of inappropriate to to goof with with people about a dead family or whatever but if you're innocent i mean if i'm innocent and i'm in i'm in jail and guys like what'd you get in here

hacking computers i'm like hacking i mean i would do that i'd say stop i mean there's just times where like you get in a situation where you're throwing stuff back and forth with somebody yeah and you're just like i mean i don't do it as much now just because i've i've kind of cooled out my old age but i mean back in the day you would just be sitting in a house getting high and just saying nasty and the craziest wildest shit ever bro and then your friends bob walk in and you all shut the fuck up. You're like, yo, chill, bro, chill, chill, chill. Yeah. Let me go ahead and tell you.

I'll just go ahead and tell you. I'll just let you peek behind the curtain of how degenerate men are. You can pick any of your friends that are nominees for Father of the Year and all this stuff, work hard, love their kids and all this stuff. Dial it back 20 years ago, and almost assuredly they were making a joke about fucking kids or something crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just, I'll say this. It's interesting that you brought that up because I'm on vacation, so I haven't worked for like three weeks or two weeks. And I was talking to my daughter. We watched Gremlins on Christmas Eve. We were like, eh, you know, let's watch a Christmas movie. We watched it.

And the beginning starts out extremely racist to Asian people. And then it moves on. And then there's this really mean old lady that just gets killed in the movie. And my daughter was like, man, this is really mean old lady that just gets killed in the movie. And my daughter was like, man, this, this is really mean spirited. And I was like,

every single fucking movie, every single comedy movie, an old person gets killed or an old lady gets killed or beat up. That's one of the jokes. Then there's some sort of racism and some kind of homophobia. Like all the movies. I don't think we, I said this on Twitter yesterday. I don't think we even knew there was the technology to do a movie without all that stuff.

It's like in order to get the cameras to work, you had to have a certain amount of things. And Rush Hour 3, they had to have like every five to 10 minutes, they had to have a racist joke. Otherwise, it just wouldn't work. Yeah.

Yeah. The camera doesn't, people couldn't process it all process it all shuts off why are they just hanging out being friends like they should be racist towards each other like what the fuck you talking about yo what what the guy went go ahead go ahead go ahead but yeah yeah 2002 i mean shit people act like this is some old thing that people have been tightening up since forever and since the 80s or 90s and i truly think that that comedy didn't have any sort of a reckoning until sometime around 2017 you know i i know that i had kind of cleaned up my act in 2011 when we started Street Fight. I had that's when I had been like, OK, you know, I'm going to take some things and treat them as off limits.

But but before that, in 2010, I was like, I want to say the nastiest thing in the world for a living. So, Chapo launched in 2016, and that's when things started to be like, okay, I guess you can do comedy that's not nasty and offensive and shit like that. That's really 2014, 2015, when a lot of that shit happened, whatever you would call cancel culture or whatever. When we started to say, when we started to say, maybe some things could be off limits, I think. Well, I mean, like, I don't know, man. Like, it reminds me of, like, we were going to talk about, thinking about, talk about,

I don't want to, like, detract too much, but, like, Andrew Tate going and Greta Thunberg going at one another, man. And, like, you know, some of the replies that I've seen. Because I'm a purveyor of, like, bad takes. Like, I love just looking into the replies and seeing the most deranged shit that people possibly can say, you know. And people were like, yo, it's body shaming him.

Like, to, like, say that he has, like, a small penis. And I was just like, dog, like, I understand, like, not even just being politically correct, but not being an asshole to people. You know what I'm saying? But first of all, you're talking about, like, an alleged, like, rapist. You're talking about, like, a misogynist. You're talking about, like, a dude who, like, is straight up a bigot. And, like, also, like, if everything like that is off limits, like, where does bullying come in? You know what I'm saying?

Like, if this is a battlefield and I don't have, like, you know what I'm saying? People can't even make jokes. You know what I mean bullying come in you know what i'm saying like if this is a battlefield and i don't have like you're boxing with your hands you know what i mean yeah you know what i mean it's not like i'm going up in there trying to physically harm somebody i can't even make a joke about a dude who's done much worse than people you know let me say let me say this about greta thunberg is is uh everybody knows my guys that I have tons of guys. And one of my guys is Bubba the Love Sponge. Oh, I've heard of this guy. He of the Gawker suit. He of the guy that killed Gawker.

One of them. I mean, there's actually three of them. There's Peter Teal, Hulk Hogan, and him. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking the Holy's a Holy Trinity. All three Brian's guys. True, true. But he is a guy that is a, he's so stupid.

If you listen to two hours of him, you would leave and say, this is the stupidest man that's ever lived. But he's kind of charming in a way. He's just incredibly fucking stupid. And he's not 100% conservative, right? Like, he got the vaccine. He says things that are less, you know, he tries, he's pro-abortion. He's all that stuff, right? The reason he's kicked off of Twitter is because he called greta thunberg a little bitch

wait how old was she it was a couple years ago so how old was she i think he said i think he said something like shut up you little bitch about something she posted on twitter and he's gone now and i i don't think that guy has hate in his heart for for a time for a kid you know what i mean i think he heard other people conservative times because he used to have he's the guy that got tucker carlson in trouble too you guys will remember yeah tucker carlson would come on and say like the age of consent should be lower and and shit like that like he said some really nasty stuff you can find that on media matters by the way bubble love sponge and tucker carlson was a big thing but i think that he talks to people who are who he thinks are smarter than him

and then he gets mad and he just decides this person's a target and i think that's how the entire american right works at this point is that like somebody goes like drag queens drag queens are a target now that's who we have to go after everybody freaks out and and for a year or two they're just gonna attack drag queens it's the same thing like people were like uh uh the democrats aren't patriotic uh uh they they don't follow the founding fathers' beliefs. That's why we're going to show up at the state house with a fucking tri-corner cap with tea bags hanging off. Because somebody pointed them in that fucking direction. You know what I mean?

And I think that's how a lot of this, that's why Andrew Tate, he didn't have any, who cares what Greta Thunberg says? It doesn't affect him at all not a single law has changed nothing has happened the american government doesn't take her seriously joe biden doesn't take her seriously nobody takes him seriously so somebody pointed these really dumb dipshits into the direction of her and that's why a lot of the i i just after after the the the thing that happened yesterday i was like it's just well i mean these guys are just attack dogs for for morons well i mean if like you know we're talking about celebrity kind of celebrity culture and shit like that i mean if like all and even in politics of all these people even someone like greta thunberg is an avatar

for like you know environmentalism or like leftism, right? Like if these guys are against all of that shit, because they don't really have any sort of like material values or any sort of like, you know, they don't really have anything to say. It's all just vibes for them. Of course, she's going to be like the next target, you know? So they just keep cycling around over and over or like a movie like Glass Onion, you know what I'm saying? That's their next target because apparently it's woke. These people don't watch anything to enjoy it. They don't watch anything to be entertained.

They watch it to poke holes in political messages so they can be like, oh, this is like an un-American movie or not. I'll tell you what. Rian Johnson is a target, too. You're right, Aaron, that Rian Johnson's been a target since The Last Jedi. People have been like, oh, this. And Glass Onion, I thought, was kind of, it was fine. It was just a little too online for my taste. But, like, he's a target that everything he does now is woke.

So now every time he makes something and releases it, a guy like Ben Shapiro watches it and says, this is woke. This is bad. and then all of his people are like yeah that movie sucks and they all watch it they all still consume all the stuff they just you know and and that's the same thing with like the left does it too with the avatar thing where like avatar comes out and people are like this is a movie for conservatives and it's like what listen let me okay let me let me tell you something i this is i'm gonna say this i've gotten back in the dumb guy tv like i've been watching yellowstone and tall and tulsa king and shit like that and let me tell you something it has been like wind beneath my

wings only only because i don't have to engage in any of that. I could just enjoy it for what it is. You know, like the surface level, whatever. Yellowstone is Sons of Anarchy with Cowboys. And maybe better casting, you know? It sucks shit that I started that show. I think the biggest Yellowstone goof of all time is a mix-up. It's a mistake to fucking make the first episode 90 minutes. Yeah. You shouldn't do because that's

that's what stopped me i looked at it and i was like it's 90 fucking minutes but i just finished a show that the left my friends would truly think is makes me the a bad person called rogue heroes there was probably my favorite show of 2022 and it's's about the British SAS, which is, I guess, like their CIA. It's like this really macho depiction of these guys that probably were 100% doing war crimes. I mean, they do war crimes in the show gleefully, and they're smiling, and they're all having the best time of their life and it's like for some reason i sit down and i watch something like that and i'm like i i really think tom the way you bring up yellowstone and stuff like that i honestly think that part of it is like i need to i have these impulses in me i need to exercise these impulses it's better to do it at a movie or on tv than like to watch like sons of anarchy right where it, where it's the dumbest

fucking show that's ever existed in the history of the world, and you watch it and you're like, yeah, this is... Walking Dead is another one. It's these shows about what conservatives deem hard choices. I have to make hard choices because it's doing a bad thing. Missions are a big part of these shows.

And it's also like, okay, so Sons of Anarchy, spoiler alert, the guy, he goes on a fucking killing spree in the last season of that show. Jax goes on this just fucking, he kills like 19 people in the first three episodes or something like that. Jesus Christ. And same thing with The Walking Dead for the first few seasons, right? It's like I would watch those shows.

I would watch those shows and be like, this is somebody watching this and saying, I would never kill anybody. I can't stand the thought of killing somebody. But if that happened, I'd have to kill that person. So these shows about these complicated decisions that a character on a tv show it just reacts by shooting somebody in the head yeah like that's what these people are

watching it for it's it's the it's the feeling of like yeah that's the decision i would make too i mean you watch it to be entertained and like reflect some like i guess reality or like how you think about yourself right you know what i mean i mean like people watch like i don't know dude i've been watching like sci-fi shit for like the past year now and dog i just like turning my brain off and star trek is political sure but dude i just want to see i want to see shit blow up i want to see aliens you know i want to see spaceships man you know what i mean i'm gonna turn my brain off i'm the same way. I fucking love movies with cars and guns and people shooting stuff. And a lot of times, the people doing the stuff are cops. I don't like the fucking police at all.

I'm not a guy that's like, I love the police. I love movies where people get killed and shoot at each other and sneak up on each other and fight. And a lot of those have the police although i do feel like things have changed over the past like two years that i don't think we're gonna get any more like cop or movies where the yeah but i do think i i uh uh i do think like we're gonna get more vigilante stuff which i would argue is maybe worse i'm like i'm just like i'm just the equalizer is that that's what the equalizer is a vigilante show. And it's like, oh, that's, that's maybe not good.

I'm just going to go ahead and tell you there's two past TV like gold. Okay. But the surest one, the surest, surest, surest one is you got to have a hot son that unnecessarily puts his family in danger. Mm-hmm. Jax Taylor, Casey from Yellowstone. That's the difference. It's like when you look at the map of, you know,

everybody watched White Lotus, and that was like a moment. And it's like you look at that, and it's like, okay, two million people watched White Lotus. Just a fucking nothing burger episode of Yellowstone that aired the same time as that finale had 15 million viewers. Yellowstone is what people are watching. There's like seven Yellowstone spinoffs. And it is a thing that I feel like I need to sit down

and just I need to get started on because it is the exact type of thing that will get me addicted, especially because I watched the first 45 minutes of it. I want you to watch Yellowstone and Tulsa King come back and we'll just have at it. I'm going to. I'm going to watch both of those things.

I just finished I'll tell you what's a really good show that I'm watching that people don't talk about is Southside. I don't know if you guys. Southside's great. Southside's great. You guys are watching it too? I got into it.

It's about the Coke in Chicago. There's two cops. Oh, yeah. It's in Chicago. It takes place in Chicago. It's like a half hour comedy about these two guys. Well, two of the characters are guys that work at a rent to own place. And they repo people stuff. You know, they're the repo people.

And two of the characters are cops. And they're kind of goofs. And they just goof around a lot. But it is like I think I got turned on to it because somebody said like it is a show for. It's a show for poor it's it's a show for poor people yeah it's really what it is and it's it's it's a comedy show for it all the characters are black there are no white characters and i really like the concept of like i live in this neighborhood i'm broke and but i have to repo your stuff yeah i like i know i know how it is but you know i got a job to

do you know what i mean yes and i'll be like you if i don't do my job yeah it's the same thing with the cops in the show it's like i don't want to i i i just want to be good for the neighborhood and they end up goofing on the cops and stuff like that on the show but it's just this like really good half hour comedy and i i haven't seen anything like it and and so fucking long and there's like three seasons of it i just i wish more people would just be like would watch it because the guys that are doing it are so talented and i really do feel like that's a that is a political statement that i think everybody there is a political statement in that that i think everybody should think about and it is that like if i grew up poor uh uh and i like because you know if somebody in your neighborhood becomes a cop everybody's like you're a fucking sellout

you know or if you're a repo man you're a fucking sellout. Everybody has to live. Unfortunately, of course we want everybody to know. I try to keep this in mind every time I want to go upside the head of a Lex Park meter man. Yes! It's like, yes, you are a class traitor.

Yes, I want to physically assault you, but I also understand that you're making bullshit money to make everybody in this fucking city hate you. Exactly. I walk by them, and I just give them the fucking nastiest look. The parking meter people, I just give them the nastiest fucking like, fuck you. But in my mind, I'm like, you know what?

If I didn't have any money and the city was like and the city pays decent money and the city's like go out there and write tickets you got benefits and shit like that too yeah man at some point you have to just at some point people have to settle for a job and it sucks and and and you really wish that that's what i think socialism offers a lot of times to me is this thing of like, I don't, cause in capitalism, like we live in this world where everybody has to have money and everybody's desperate and everybody needs benefits. So that's why people take these jobs.

I have a friend that I grew up with that was like one of the nicest, he's a nice guy. He did a lot i mean he he was a decent dude but he was a repo guy because he had two kids and that was the only job he could fucking get that would let him because his wife had a low-paying job that worked her more than 40 hours a week it was the only job he could have where he could stay home most of the day until his wife got home in a flexible sort of situation and then he could go repo cars which sucks and i hate it but like but how else i think we do have we do have to reckon with the fact and i think that's what that show does and it's a comedy so it's actually you know it's not heavy-handed or anything like that but i think

that show does is attempting to reckon with the fact that like some of these people that we demonize and and don't don't like are are also just trying to make it because the basic premise of the show also is that the two guys that are repo guys are trying to hustle and come up with different ways to make money and get rich yeah they're just it is like they're just cogs in the machine man you know what i mean yeah it is a weird thing that it's a show i think it's a show that everybody should watch because it's an indictment of capitalism without constantly saying because that's i i think me and you talked about it aaron is like we watch these movies that are like have like like like glass onion that are beating you beating you over the head man

it's just so performative where it's like dog like okay man like i'm not even if i didn't have these views already like what do you think people are going to watch this movie and walk away with it with the ideas that you've transmitted in their heads no man people just want to be entertained yo you know yeah that's the way i think about i do think like like i would rather watch something that I can, that it's going to be easy to walk away from it, knowing what the person was trying to get you to think, then watching some movie, like a Marvel movie, that's like, sometimes the FBI is actually good.

Sometimes the superheroes have to help the FBI destabilize countries. Sometimes the space Africans and the sea Mexicans have to fight it's like okay all right bro the CIA is right there but they're fighting each other okay I gotta say I do have to say that the Black Panther thing just felt like that. I hated that movie. Wakanda versus whoever the seat. I did, too. I fucking hated that movie. We talked about it. I regretted $20, man, for that shit, dog.

$25 for that ticket. I've still not seen it. I might go check it out now that I can. The lesson at the end of the story is sometimes people have to try to wipe each other off the face of the earth. And sometimes it just has to be black people. Sometimes it's not even white people that do it. You know what's interesting? After all the shit they caught for the white CIA guy being the hero of the first one,

you would think they would try to rectify that the second go around. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. The lesson of that movie really to me felt like sometimes nations get destabilized and shit gets fucked up and it's not white people doing sometimes it's the fault of the the tin pot dictator in this country yeah yeah how did it get how did this country get this way don't worry about that part yeah don't start thinking and also the uh tom i

know you said like they caught shit for the fbi guy being a hero but guess what he's in this one yeah he's in this one too again incredible incredible the mc he's like the the the movies that are are like we're the wokest of all time and it's because like there's they're they're like because you remember right i think me and you talked about this too aaron where that like at the beginning of the mcu people were like uh there's no black character there's no women and they were like oh yeah that's right so then when black panther came out there was a big celebration it was a movie with dog shit politics, but Disney and the MCU were like, look, it's black people.

We got black people. What was the other one, man? The Shang-La-Chi or some shit like that? It was basically like Chinese Black Panther. It used the same model. You know what I mean? Where this dude has to reconnect with his heritage and some shit like that. This is the kind of shit that the politics of

representation is the end-all, be-all. Not saying it's not important, but it's the end-all, be-all of race politics. And that's what you get when you think that's what... That's what it always feels like to me. It always just feels like, look, we're all the same. With Black Panther and Shang-Chi, Disney and the people that made it don't grapple with politics at all. Like, there's no grappling with politics for these movies,

although they have a ton of politics. Until the Pentagon gets to vet the scripts and then, like, Exactly, exactly. But they don't, yeah, like I said, they said they don't like grapple with real politics they just say look we made the chinese one yeah we made the chinese yeah they just those movies are literally they could have been white people they just replaced them with chinese people that's it you know it's nothing about the movie that's political i mean i guess except black panther because it wouldn't be exist if it wasn't Africa. But whatever. Even that is like hollow, you know.

But yeah. Yeah. The hollow sort of. It sucks because the conservatives see this stuff as like woke and brainwashing everybody. And then we see it as like. This is bad. Sinister. Yeah.

It's sinister and cynical and bad. You know, it's just not. It's not making anybody happy, but it's the highest grossing shit out there jesus man hey real quick before i let you boys go look quick little rundown everybody's doing their like best of it you're in list and i don't want to like you know uh regale our listeners in the 25th hour with like our personal picks but just real quick what were some of the things that stood out to y'all like TV, music, movies, whatever that you really got into this year?

I got to say, Southside is a big one for me. Rogue Heroes was a big one for me. Me and the wife really like Yellow Jackets earlier in the year. I'm trying to think of movies. Yellow Jackets wife Yellowstone husband

Yes Yes I gotta do Yellowstone I am going to I'm trying to think of Oh I know the movie that I really like This year that we'll never see a sequel to And it's a shame of Confess Fletch I love that movie

Whiteabat It's Jon Hamm playing like a smart alecky detective that gets caught in a murder scheme it's very fun it's a it's a it's a very like i i don't know i kind of like i like detective things and i like like when the detectives are kind of charming and light-hearted and kind of stuff like that i don't yeah yeah i can't remember what came i keep trying to think of what came out this year because i i wanted to uh make a list of like movies but uh everything blurs together when you get to my age so uh it's every year i should get a letter boxed right like that's what the people do that that's what yeah

man people were telling me i should do that yeah um we'll be shit what did i what did i watch i think if people didn't see it they should check out triangle of sadness that's a movie that i saw this year starring woody harrelson um i don't know the other actors yeah it got a lot of buzz i've not seen it yet I've been wanting to see it I've heard Oh I've heard some people say It's the best shit ever

And some people say It's overrated It is pretty good It's too late It might be too late for this For some people Oh god damn it Now I remember

I looked up movies I like First of all Violent Night was really good I really enjoyed that movie But My favorite movie Of 2022 Is Problematic, number one.

Number two, Top Gun Maverick. Baby, that was the best movie. That's the best movie of the 2020. I was thinking about watching that. Save the movies, you know? Hey, man. You did. I was thinking about watching that.

I was thinking about watching that. Also, too, man, I got to throw in Avatar. I think similar in terms of top gun maverick you know just a fun a big fun like look yes man and not that's something and i know that like i guess avatar is a disney movie in terms of production but dude he wrote this shit before you know what i'm saying before production he wrote this shit like it's an original idea that's a big fun dumb movie you know like oh you know what else was you know what else was super i gotta watch that i i think you'll love top gun maverick if you can get in a theater and see it try i should have went to movies to see it man dude it's the it's no cgi shit on my mac

literally number one all the shit was, they didn't use CGI. All the shit was real, so it's incredible to watch. It just looks really cool. Number two, it's such a vanity. I love vanity projects, and basically the plot of the movie is, damn, isn't Tom Cruise cool? It's pushing 60 years old, man, and he still looks good. Might be a crazy motherfucker, but he look cool as hell.

I liked X and Pearl, too. I don't know if anybody watch that last one I got there great I got one show to recommend one show that I like a lot a sci-fi show that's one of my favorite ones for all mankind is on Apple Plus and I think this year was their third season it's about an alternate history with the Soviets land on the moon first so the whole space race through the 60s up until the 90s is like supercharged which means like socially um um like technologically like people are using like uh smartphones in the 90s one mars in the 90s and i don't know man it's a wholesome uh ronald d moore who did battle star galactica people know

and also wrote some star trek episodes uh but it's a wholesome dope show that kind of makes you like damn like what if you know what i mean it's pretty tight yeah it's very good it's a very good show i've seen like most of it i haven't watched much of the third season yet but i i will definitely finish it i'm like two and a half seasons in i i really dig it but yeah uh what is the other like i'm trying to see if there's a comedy because oh you know what else is good bullet train i love i heard bullet train was good too so it was fun it was fun yeah i think that's the thing that happened with me this year was it was sort of like well i like i want to watch i'm so tired of everything being sort of serious. And even comedy movies have this.

One of my favorite comedy movies of the past few years is called Plan B. And it's about two women in a state that have strict abortion laws trying to get Plan B. And I loved it. I thought it was really fucking good but it was also very very uh ham hand yeah yeah you know what i mean yeah it's like we're gonna try to make a dark comedy about something that's very serious but we have to remind you about how serious this is it's like you do you do get to there is like one of the great scenes of anything i've ever seen this guy asked her to suck his dick for money and she's

like okay fine I'll do it and bites it it's like a close-up shot it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen it's gnarly man hell yeah oh yeah it's good it's good yeah there's a bunch of stuff I really dig uh from this year but uh I I have to say that like x i loved pearl so fucking much i i just x and pearl were really good but uh top gun maverick if you haven't seen top gun maverick you know obviously also i'll say this for the people that are like ah it's propaganda right uh they don't even name the country they're bombing or show anybody to indicate that they're from another country they just say this is a dark country that does bad things and it's like okay i can listen be like okay fine yeah

they do bad stuff i might listen i might have a hot take that's similar with avatar but people that are like oh like you know it's um you know he's mirroring a story of indigenous people right in in america and in africa like, bro, they're blue people. They're fucking aliens, dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, how are you getting offended? Like saying like, well, you're stealing. They're aliens, man.

They don't exist. The same way that that country is not real. This is not real. It's a fucking movie, bro. Right? I'll say this. I'll say this before we go because I know I keep stretching your show. I was on tour with Jack and Leslie from Struggle Sessions for like a week and a half, right?

And we were talking in the car, and they were reading comic books while we were driving, but then would pop up. We'd have these conversations. We were kind of talking about Batman. And I said, like, you know, it's sort of annoying that people are like, oh, he beats up, you know, mentally ill people and shit like that. And I was like, I don't know how to counter that argument. Because he does. He looks cool doing it.

That's how you counter it. He looks cool doing it. That's it. And Leslie said this. Leslie said this. And it's the greatest thing anybody said. They're fictional characters and they're all real criminals. There's nobody that's not a real criminal that he's beating it up,

because they wrote the fucking movie to have real criminals, like people that you would have to get out of your neighborhood. They're not real people. The things that happen in movies isn't fucking real. I have to say that to my daughter. My brother. He loves action movies. But he does not like any action movies where somebody's in peril.

Well, that's like what we were talking about when we opened the show. With suspending disbelief and all those. He waited until this year to watch John Wick movies. Because he was like, it seems like really like a bummer that his dog gets killed in his wife's den. It's called the movie where plot things have that. There's an inciting action that happens where, you know what I mean? Somebody has to be in danger. There has to be a hero's journey. I said, dude, if that didn't happen, it would just be a movie about a guy playing with his fucking dog.

I could do that in real life. Like if there's not an inciting incident where somebody is in trouble, where the family gets kidnapped or something like that, then it's just a movie about a psycho serial killer that's running around. For no reason. I'd rather there be a reason for why he's doing it. Wait, Todd, before we go, what was your what was it? You have any hits from the year, man? I mean, I really liked

Banshees of Annishere, and I'm a McDonough apologist. I get the thing I've taken probably the most flack from this show other than uh entertaining lab leak theory in last week when people got upset saying that i was marginalizing people worried about covid even though i'm like definitely one of them at a holdout guy you know like yeah

like anybody that knows me knows that but the if the the other thing i've taken the most shit for is really liking the movie Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri for some reason. I don't know why. But, man, she's a bit of shit. I got to watch that. I loved In Bruges like so much. In Bruges is one of the big bummers of my life is because I loved it

and I told all of my friends how great it was when I saw it. And to the person, every one of them came back and said it was boring. And I was like, yo, I hate that shit. How can I trust your opinion on this Top Gun Maverick? You led me astray with Imbrouche. Bro, I hate that shit when I'm so excited about something to tell somebody, and they actually go and watch it because they trust my judgment and come back and tell me they didn't like it.

I'm like, motherfucker, I'll never do you any favors again bro you need a you need a ride quick coming to the taste factory then if you want aaron i i go to the movies alone for that reason yes me too like if i if i see a movie looks bad but good i'm like i ain't fucking taking anybody you don't ruin my time i leave the movie and you'll be like, this is stupid. It's like, no shit. Everything I watch is fucking stupid. Everything is dull. That's the fucking point, bro. Yeah.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Wow. It's so fun. I haven't podcasted in two weeks. Yeah, me neither, man, actually. I forgot. I've been on a little vacation, man.

Well, it was fun to knock the rest off of you boys. It did. It was very fun. I have been telling people, yeah, get a hold of me after January 22nd, but when Tom comes calling, the B-Dog comes. I forgot you're off, man. I didn't mean to call you in on your day off. Well, John has me doing the POD cast today, too.

So it doesn't even really matter. I have to do it. And at 5 o'clock, I have to do the POD cast. So I was going to be busy anyway. It don't matter. But then it is 50 degrees outside. Yo, it's warm here, too, man. It's been uncharacteristically cold in Atlanta.

But it's pretty nice today. Oh, I was in misery when it was like minus. That shit is racist weather, dog. Anything below 65 degrees is racist, bro. I'm sorry. I don't even care if you're not black, bro. It's just a hate crime, man. I hate that shit.

I've been waking up. I was like, I got up at 11, and I went back and laid back down until 1. I don't know what's wrong with me. And she's like, winter. And I was like, then why can't we move not move further south i'm telling you i'm praying my daughter just says like you know what i'm gonna go to school in seattle or something and i'll just fucking okay fine we'll go there she's she's being recruited by a school close to here that is cheap or would

be cheaper for her and also they want to give her a full scholarship so it wouldn't cost any money but they send her they send her letters almost every day and she thinks they're too thirsty and I know she's not going to go there she's going to go to somewhere expensive for sure it's like OU

is not a bad school but I guess they've been too thirsty For that Well fellas I appreciate y'all Making the time And yeah Y'all out there listening If you like what you hear

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to the Street Fight Patreon, I am starting something new this week. A new series. People love the new series. And I think this is a good one for all people that were alive in the 2000s. It's called Now We're Cookin'. And it's a deep dive into Dane Cook.

Go check it out. If you said Rob in the 2000s, it could have been anything than Dane Cook. Dane Cook is the most 2000s name you can ever come up with. I had to find out about him and guess what?

He's a guy. He's one of my guys now. He's one of your guys? El Dano. Dude, every time a Dane Cook word. With a plug? No, no i mean people should listen to everybody loves communism um that's the podcast i do with jamie and jorge about communist theory and news and media so people can check that out and uh yeah that's pretty much it

hell yeah well listen to the fucking trailbillies for p's sake. I didn't mean to catch you off there, bro. What was you going to say? I'm saying that I hear Tom's voice every other day in this house because my wife listens to the show. And when you guys were having trouble there, she was like, hey, is Tom okay? And I'm like, I think so. I don't know. But she's really missing your show. So now it's ruined because she's going to listen to this show and I'm going to be here. She's going to have to hear me. Don't tell her

that you're going on. Make it be a surprise. She knows. She knows already. She knows because she's sitting downstairs right now. I won't put with special guests. I'll just sneak up on her. Make her listen to me for fuck's sake. She doesn't want to listen to me talk about Dan Cook. She should listen to me do this.

Well, fellas, I appreciate it. And last episode of the year. So happy New Year's to you and yours. And yeah, we'll see y'all in the new year. See y'all in the new year. Bye. Happy New Year.