Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 289: Work Smarter, Not Harder

Episode Date: May 4, 2023

Bob Dylan goes to Deadwood, Thomas Friedman opens up some boxes, Cop City comes to West Virginia, Letcher County speaks its piece Support striking WGA workers: https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/t...he-snacklist-support-striking-workers And support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is going to be tough today because I have bronchitis. And when I laugh, I'm going to go, it's going to be like a smoker's cough every time, so I'm going to try to maybe hit the mute when I get a good coughing fit going on.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Mr. Hickok, I feel awful. I'm taken down with tachycardia. I feel awful. I'm taken down with tachycardia. I'm so fucking brain fogged from allergies, I don't think I can do the episode as me. I think I'm going to have to do it as another character.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I've chosen Charlie Utter from the TV show Deadwood. Mr. Hickok. Now you can't just go burying him right here. Use your head, boy. That's good. I'm getting it. Deadwood is... There was like a Twitter prompt this week. It's like, what's the best show that only you watch? And that's not exactly true
Starting point is 00:01:01 because Deadwood was kind of a hit. But I think it's been largely forgotten in the pantheon of great shows. It's so good. I love it. Like if you watch Sons of Anarchy, literally every actor on Sons of Anarchy was on Deadwood first. Mr. Hickok, can I see your penis before you leave town? Turn your mic up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Now, Mr. Hickok, before you leave town, I'm going to need to see your penis. Why did they give him a southern... They gave him a New Orleans accent. The real Charlie Utter was from New York or something. None of it makes sense. It's just like in Yellowstone, how all the Montana people have southern
Starting point is 00:01:43 accents. It's like, is this just the default middle america accent or something uh-huh i don't get it or if you want to like telegraph that somebody's a rube you have to give them that accent too mr wild now come on now bill you gotta come on now Bill come out of your room drop your pants and let me see your ass cheeks make it clap for Charlie Hunter make it clap for Mr. Charlie Hunter
Starting point is 00:02:15 make it clap for Mr. Charlie Hunter clap those clap those cheeks together for Charlie every scene in Deadwood where like somebody's like having some sort of surgical thing how they just got give them some whiskey and make them chew on the you're gonna do that but it's for when Charlie Utter fucks you
Starting point is 00:02:37 in the butt now here's your cutting whiskey bend over make a clap Mr. Charlie Utter Now here's your cutting whiskey Bend over Bend over make a clap Mr. Charlie Oh man Before you got on I had it pretty good I'm from Gayville
Starting point is 00:02:56 That's true he purchased A saloon in Gayville I'm coming down to Deadwood but I've been up in Gayville for the last week god damn it I don't know if I can do this every five seconds I will be like oh man
Starting point is 00:03:19 dude you want to talk about ailments I've been going to the gym Dude, you want to talk about ailments. I've been going to the gym, and I've been getting myself mentally very strong. Not physically in any way, but mentally. You're telling that when you figure out, they say, listen, with the physical benefits, I can take relief.
Starting point is 00:03:42 What I'm really after is mental acuity. Yeah. I'm trying to cultivate a warrior's mentality here i've probably destroyed no less than five or ten million brain cells just this past week going there let me tell you what i went in there on saturday they've been redoing i should i shouldn't say what gym, because I know people in this community sometimes listen to this show and, oh, you got to put our town's dirty laundry on blast. Pay the bills, God damn it. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:04:20 No one criticized how Charlie Utter made his money, so. Quit pocket watching me, god damn it. Yeah. But ever since the flood, so the flood destroyed the basketball court in there, and they've had to redo it. And so I was in there on Saturday, and they had these guys down there on these riding
Starting point is 00:04:46 sanders those big machines that are sand I don't know what the fuck they do I guess like they have some buffers on the bottom of it that sand wooden floor does that make sense
Starting point is 00:05:02 yeah and it was kicking up so much fucking dust like sawdust nobody's wearing a mask i'm sure it's like that's the let me ask you a question as the stigma of libtard wearing an n95 is it so embedded now that people are just like raw dog and dust particles now i myself was i didn't even know like i like they started up halfway through like me being in there and within like 15 minutes a fine layer of white just coated every piece of equipment in there and not for nothing all y'all's lungs too you're all just breathing in sawdust like while working out you got basketball lung now
Starting point is 00:05:48 that's not even the worst well i mean the next one was probably just as bad but then like a few days later so i was like i was like all right i'm just not gonna go in there for a few days surely they'll fucking get it done by then so then I went back in there on maybe I've got my days kind of fucked up because I went in there at the end of last week and they were doing that and then I went back in there on like Monday and they had lacquered the floor and so the fucking fumes off of that like you know you're like running on the treadmill starting to get like dizzy because like you're just breathing in heavy like oh my god it just fucking high as a cat you're like you're sitting there and just
Starting point is 00:06:39 fucking for some reason i think i'm somebody else now uh-huh and you've brought that energy to this pod that's i'm telling you i i like feel like i've been uh huffing air duster for three days because i went i went back in there yesterday too of course you're like you know that wasn't so bad yeah i was like i kind of liked that that was kind of fun and when i was growing up like i always like i knew like paint heads like people that actually like love to huff paint and were addicted to it and you would see them walking around like a little thin strip of like you know high gloss across their you know and they're like grady you've been huffing pain again no it's like you got that goddamn sherwin williams right there covered you fucking mouth now now mr hickok i know that the u.s regulatory regime around uh toxic substances is not quite established in this year.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Maybe not as robust as it was up in Gayfield. Our regulatory bodies. I do not recommend you huffing so much paint and going down to the poker tables every night, Mr. Hickok. What a way to live.
Starting point is 00:08:05 That's why he died. Because he was huffing paint all the time. While Bill Hickok was huffing paint and going and playing poker. That's why the guy, the coward Jack McCall or whatever his name, shot him. He offered him a huff of paint and it wasn't his favorite color. He's like, nah, I'm Mr. Hickok. I actually prefer more of a flat matte
Starting point is 00:08:33 when I'm, you know, getting higher or whatever. You don't like a glossy? I'm not a high gloss guy, no. Yeah. Fuck. What the fuck is stucco like what is the actual material is it just like spit wads seriously like what is stucco like when you you know blasted on with popcorn ceiling yeah yeah like what is that you know i'm not sure i have them i have i have stucco ceilings but i'm not sure what
Starting point is 00:09:06 just come they had like 30 painters come down and come into large my guy everisto that does my painting he's gonna have some explaining to do the next time he comes around so what the hell were y'all doing when I left? Yeah, he had no idea. He's mad. Not another one of them that give high fives. Another one of them has no idea what's on his ceiling. Yeah. Oh, hell.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Well, all of which is to say that, went Monday, and then I was like, surely they'd be done by Wednesday. No, they're still working on it. You forget that in a small town, things move at such a glacial pace. Yeah, that's a job that usually takes... Well, it's not even that so much as you have a job, right? And if you did that in a city where you got volume, you make that job last maybe a day, something like that. You probably get done a couple hours. In the provinces, you don't know where your next meal is coming from,
Starting point is 00:10:15 so you got to take a one-day job and make it a two-week job. You know what I mean? 1,000%. And the thing about projects in small towns is either there's way too many people on a job or not enough there's either one guy or 20 guys one guy that's trying to do a 10-man crew job or or 20 guys watching two guys working there's no in between that is true god that is true oh man I worked for Jimmy Ray Cottle for a while and that was
Starting point is 00:10:48 definitely the case it was like boys work smarter not harder that was our motto what does that even mean just you know don't rush cause Jimmy liked to turn in them big
Starting point is 00:11:04 invoices he would he would like get like the city on a retainer but go like while he was supposed to be on that job he'd have us just piddling around there and he'd go do like five other jobs yeah guys rolling in cash the richest people in america are like construction guys that are tax cheats yeah dude make no mistake about it like you think this guy's the common working man no this guy is like caked up like tv preacher caked up well it's because they they run the business basically like it is a mob money laundering outfit except they don't have any of the organized crime aspects of it no god damn i do miss a job i show up friday and just get cash though you know uh i've never been much of a payroll guy but oh you mean like uh filing a w-2
Starting point is 00:11:57 yeah all that stuff that's for losers if you're filing if you're filing a w-2 or 1099 you're marked yeah i hate that show wow get you get you an unscrupulous tax cheat boss that just says there you go boys under the table gives it to you in an envelope at the end of the week there's nothing like an envelope full of cash i love it why i love that shit in TV shows when people hand over envelopes full of cash. I'm like, yes. Yes, that is a good feeling. I wonder if I could do Al Swearengin.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Be patient with me here. I've not even tried it. This will be the first time I've ever tried it. Okay. Let's see. Now, Wild Bill. Now, Wild Bill. i can't do it well what's happening is a little bane slipping in and what that bane slips you're so good at bane and bob dylan that when you're trying to do somebody else either bane or bob dylan slips in a little. Bane slips into all of them. I can't help it. Try it again.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Now, Wild Bill. He's kind of got this weird mid-Atlantic British accent. The cock... Dude, I don't know. I can't do it. I'd have to... Push through. I'll have to...
Starting point is 00:13:24 Alright, well, let's try a new prompt then. Bob Dylan finds his way to Deadwood. Looking for the hurricane. Before the hurricane? Yeah, he's trying to find Reuben Carter in Deadwood. Let's see. It's got to be stream of consciousness I guess uh
Starting point is 00:13:46 I was wondering I was walking down the road and I saw a sign that said here come here and we'll get you back home and I came and I saw my baby gal
Starting point is 00:14:03 and that's i think it's i think it's gold well that's the thing like remember that time we did that show with james austin johnson who's now like really famous yeah he did a great bob dylan impression and i was like sitting in the corner and i was like damn dude, that's my thing, bro. No, it's like, his is actually good. Mine is not good at all.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Good in a small town way. You could be the town Bob Dylan impersonator, but you're not getting any further. You don't think you're getting out of widespread with your Bob Dylan? No. No, fuck no. I'm not even getting a regionals. Come on. I'm not even getting a regional.
Starting point is 00:14:50 There's probably some guy in a hall or around like Marrowbone who can fucking rip. He just nails Bob every time. Getting a new shine job. I think it's good. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I've been afflicted this week. Have you? Yeah. Goddamn. I'm sorry. Estilence. All right. This is some actual literal shit to talk about.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Finally. I didn't know how much more mileage Bob Dylan goes to Deadwood to find Ruben Hurricane Carter had. Thankfully, a rare occasion where we could say the news saved us on this program. Oh, my god. They were playing cards. Old Jack McCall
Starting point is 00:15:50 walked up behind him and shot him in the head. I said, what's wrong, Jack? Are you out of your mind? I understand because I just I just have Bill Clinton but like if the eyes are on me I can't do it but if it's just me I can hit it or if I just don't think about it you know well the thing is is like you just have to accept that it's gonna suck yeah you know what I'm saying that's okay like i guess what's the craziest impersonation like name a single i want you to name the most random person you can think of of any race let's go there most random person of any
Starting point is 00:16:38 race of any race who's the first person to come to your mind uh first person that came to my mind was a little known filipino director i will skip that prior to arcane reference is it gonna be someone i know oh god man this is the this is what an allergy episode looks like. When you can't be yourself, be someone else. I'm so sick. Rosalyn Carter. Rosalyn Carter. Is that Jimmy Carter's wife?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah. What does she sound like? I think what you should do is I give you a random person, and you do Bob Dylan interfacing with that person. That person. Okay. Okay. You know.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So, for example, you could be like, Jimmy's going home soon, Resley. Jimmy should have sent two more helicopters. Now they're sitting at the bottom of the desert. Cool. We got 200 hostages in the embassy. And we're about to have 200 more. 200 more. Pick another one.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'll do a man since that's probably going to be easier. Okay. Bob Dole. Bob Dole. do a man since that's probably gonna be easier okay um bob dole bob dole am i still doing bob dylan talking to people or am i doing actual bob dole i think you should do bob dylan talking actual to bob dole um all right let's let me let's see guess it's I just want to get a flavor taste of Bob Dole real fast, okay? I thought it'd be the front door key. Mr. President, Mr. Clinton, Vice President, distinguished guests. No one can claim to be equal to this honor. But I will cherish it as long as I live.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Because this occasion allows me to honor some others who are more entitled. This occasion allows me to honor some others who are more entitled. You see, Mr. President, I'm going to bring up on stage one of the premier recording artists of the 20th century. Everybody give it up for Mr. Bob Dylan. Woo! Thank you, Bob. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Play Hurricane. I will not play that song. I stopped playing that song in 1993 because of the problematic lyrics that we all know. We all remember. We all know it. I don't have to say it here.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I don't have to say it again. Bob Dole over here knows what I'm talking about. That's one of my favorite lyrics, Mr Bob Dole over here knows what I'm talking about. That's one of my favorite lyrics, Mr. Dole. Oh my god! What's the medal that I'm pinning
Starting point is 00:19:59 on you, Mr. Dole? Well, you see, I fought in World War II and I met a man there named Charlie Utter and in the trenches and he inspected my ass
Starting point is 00:20:16 and made the ass cheeks clap. Well, that's quite a story, Mr. Dole. What what what Well, that's quite a story, Mr. Dole. What exactly did you do to deserve your medal of freedom? Well, the thing is, have you ever seen the movie Sophie's Choice, Mr. Dole? The thing is, have you ever seen the movie Sophie's Choice, Mr. Dillon? Well, I do remember... Yeah, that was Bob Dylan as a riverboat gambler.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I do remember the movie Sophie's choice featuring kevin klein and the lovely uh carol streep but refresh me on the plot details well it's about a young woman in the holocaust who has to choose between one of her two daughters after a nazi puts a gun to to their heads uh oh so what does this have to do with charlie utter in the trenches of world war ii and freedom of metal well you see charlie utter he put a gun on my left butt cheek and a gun on my right butt cheek and he told me I had to choose between one or the other. God damn it, that got me.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And so which one did you choose oh wow what a way to kill five ten minutes this is oblique strategies i was like opening the New York Times yesterday, and there was a Thomas Friedman opinion article. We are opening the lids on two giant Pandora's boxes. I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's so fucking mind-numbing, but I have to read you the first paragraph.
Starting point is 00:22:41 There's two now instead of one. There's two now instead of one. I was worried enough about the one Pandora's box everybody talks about, but good God. There's two of them. What's the one that everybody talks about the most, you think? AI is probably the big Pandora's box of the moment. Right? You don't think it's like...
Starting point is 00:23:03 You don't think it's like um you don't you don't think it's like uh air pollution um you don't think it's like are people still worried about air pollution i don't know at one point in time that was the big Pandora's box probably everybody worried about. That was the one. A lot of people, yeah, you're right. A lot of people were invested in that. And then we realized the reality was much worse than some smog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 That the very earth beneath us was going to open up and we would fall into it like this was Bob Dole and Charlie Utter's mercy during the World War III. Yeah, you're right. AI is the one that people seem to care about the most. I personally am worried about the
Starting point is 00:24:01 ever dwindling and finite supply of helium. That's true. I mean, if it all goes away, how are we going to do those Alvin and the Chipmunks tricks we love? What would you happen if you gave a sick person like you helium? I wonder what you would sound like. And then made you do the Bill Clinton impersonation. All right, let's pause the show.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Let's go find some helium. you do the bill clinton impersonation all right let's pause the show let's go find some helium i'll i'll i will spend the next 30 minutes to an hour doing various impressions while you go find some helium and then come back can i practice bill clinton can i practice bill clinton for three seconds before i bring him on no way to pause this actually never mind i'll just have to practice for the next show you just have to practice on air next show. You'll just have to practice on air. Just like me. I just did Al Swearengin on air. Yeah, that's true. Let's see. Wild Bill.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Wild Bill. Wild Bill. I've been lit. Bill Clinton always sounds like he's on the verge of death. Not Ben.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Oh. What did he say? Hmm. God, I keep things straight. I was going to do Bill Clinton saying he really likes Alvin and the Chipmunks cover of Kenny Rogers, the gambler. cover of Kenny Rogers the Gambler who a friend of mine told me this week showed me that the lyric instead of because they have to
Starting point is 00:25:29 make it age appropriate obviously the lyric has to go so I offered you know he's pulled out a cigarette and you know like all that it's not a cigarette in the album, the Chipmunks version.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It's a Twinkie and he offers him a bite. Instead of offering him a lot, he offers him a bite. Right. It's like G-rated. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:59 That sounds like an album trying to do Kenny Rogers together. I like that where he offers him a bite of his Twinkie. That's all I got right now. It's hard to do off the cuff.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Oh, man. You sound like Bill Clinton now. Yeah, I sound like Bill Clinton when he had sepsis. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about Pandora's boxes. I love a good box. New York Times.
Starting point is 00:26:31 We are opening the lids on two giant Pandora's boxes. I know, dude, it's so cliche and, you know, pointless to say this but it really is astonishing how you can write at 6th grade level don't let anyone ever tell you
Starting point is 00:26:55 that your dreams of doing whatever are impossible they are possible usually just for one single person but it is apparently possible to write at a sixth grade level for the new york times and make like a quarter milli a year doing it i would get in on this racket i know like i need to know it's uh we're opening the lids on two giant pandora's
Starting point is 00:27:19 boxes i love the opening paragraph marion webster isWebster. Again, this is the most... Oh, my God. Do they open with Merriam-Webster to find something as... It's Thomas Friedman writing... It's like... He opens with a fucking dictionary. I was like, even that would get you
Starting point is 00:27:42 a B- in 6 sixth or seventh grade. That's embarrassing. Without a hint of irony. Merriam-Webster notes that a Pandora's box can be anything that looks ordinary but may produce unpredictable harmful results. I've been thinking a lot about Pandora's boxes lately. Because we Homo sapiens are doing something we've never done before. Because we homo sapiens are doing something we've never done before. Lifting the lids on two giant Pandora's boxes at the same time without any idea of what could come flying out.
Starting point is 00:28:11 God. Dude. All right. We've already wasted the first 30 minutes of this show doing high concept Charlie Utter, Bob Dole crossover. Yeah. So let's spend the next 30 minutes reading and rereading that paragraph over and over again until...
Starting point is 00:28:33 You know how like when you were a kid you would say a word so many times that it would start to sound silly to you? Yeah. We're going to read this paragraph so many times. We're just going to start chuckling. I'm going to have a death rattle and just lose my mind.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Okay. I'm only going to read it one more time. I just really need to get over. I just really need to. I just really want to read the second sentence. I've been thinking a lot about Pandora's boxes lately. You really can be anything you want to be to kill children children kids and children i've been thinking a lot about pandora's boxes lately because we homo sapiens are doing something
Starting point is 00:29:17 we've never done before lifting the lids on two giant pandora's boxes at the same time without any idea of what could come flying out oh my god we homo sapiens are lifting the lids on two giant pandora's boxes without any idea what does he think sort of come flying out of these boxes this is not like the vows that remember when the angels opened the vials in the book of Revelation? Yeah, that was something you didn't know what was going to come out. Pandora's boxes, I think we can narrow it down to a handful of things. What did come out of the vials? The great whore of Babylon, I think, was one.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Came out of the vial? Maybe not. I can't remember. Maybe one of our listeners that's a real theologian instead of me, a journeyman one. Uh-huh. Can shed some light on what came out of the vial. It's probably disease and pestilence. Fight and take a stab
Starting point is 00:30:14 at it. Yeah, that would be crazy if a person or entity came out. It's like you need something like flying out. Particles, bugs. Bob Dole. Bob Dole.
Starting point is 00:30:29 That's usually what comes out of a vial. His things are AI and climate change. Those are the two Pandora's boxes. So I guessed one correctly, and you got the other one. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. So what's he prognosticating for each of them?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Well, I didn't actually read any further than that because I started to get tics and, like, you know what I mean? Like, I started to get grand mal seizures. get ticks and like you know what I mean? Like I started to get grand mal seizures. My god, he's got the palsy. That's what I got. I just can't. Bottom line, these two big Pandora's boxes
Starting point is 00:31:18 are being opened. God save us if we acquire godlike powers to part the Red Sea but fail to scale the Ten Amendments. Commandments, my man. What do you think about that? I don't know if I... Friedman going biblical, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Interesting choice. God damn, he's so motherfucking stupid. I'm going to close this tab out before I catch something from it. Catch the stupid. Yeah. All right. something from it. Catch the stupid. Yeah. Alright. Now we're just going around. We're just
Starting point is 00:31:54 going to hit some things. McDowell County gets $2 million grant for training facility. Alright, this was sent to us from a friend and I really loved this story for all kinds of reasons. So this is in the Bluefield Daily Telegraph, a little bit of a local news story.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I have a theory. I'll tease this up for you, Star. I have a theory that it's now. Go ahead and be the first to tell you. It leans a little Marvel Cinematic Universe. This story? it's now i'll go ahead and be the first to tell you it leans a little marvel cinematic universe this story well no it's just this story is just a microcosm of the greater thing but part of which i stole from you but that's all right what did you steal from me uh we'll talk about it then just just read we'll get to i feel so bad i should reiterate this i i i'm glad this is free because i'd feel
Starting point is 00:32:46 bad if somebody's paying for this i this is like this is not jordan's flu game you know this is like jordan like jordan got his appendix out game jordan got his penis implants game This is more like, yeah, Jordan got a PBL. Jordan got his cheeks clapped by Charlie Hunter. Anyway. Now, Mr. Jordan. Now, Mr. Jordan, before you go out those doors,
Starting point is 00:33:22 McDowell County will be receiving more than $2 million federal grant to construct a new training facility for law enforcement and military personnel. Okay, before I go any further, for those of you who don't know, McDowell County is in West Virginia. It is the southernmost county in West Virginia. It is also perhaps probably the poorest county in West Virginia. I mean, I don't know that for a fact, but it's definitely always up there in the rankings. It's in the conversation probably with Mingo and some others. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Boone, possibly. Yeah, it's where Homer Hickam was from, man. Isn't that guy like a right-winger now? Okay. He spends all day on Twitter now, like talking about how you should be able to murder people on the subway. Oh my god. I think. Maybe I'm getting him confused
Starting point is 00:34:11 with somebody else. Mr. Homer Hickam. Mr. Homer Hickam. Hickam was involved in 2018. Hickam was involved in a Hickam was involved in a controversy when a woman who accepted the position as an intern with NASA replied with profanities towards a comment by Hickam
Starting point is 00:34:30 what? okay Hickam didn't do anything there surely he's gotta be like a Trump guy allegedly so he's a sex pest allegedly so our West Virgin a sex pest. I'll let you look at that. So our West Virginian sex pest must also be a Trump guy.
Starting point is 00:34:59 This is all parody for those Homer Hickam fans out there. Please don't tell on us. There's Hickam Hive? God damn it, you gotta tell me that before I just start shooting off at the mail. Oh, dude, he's got a blue shirt. I can't deal with any more hives. I've ran afoul of too many hives
Starting point is 00:35:14 lately. You better watch out, dude. The Hickam Hive is gonna get your fucking ass. God damn it, man. Sorry. You're fucking done, bitch. I take it back. You are bitch. I take it back. I take it back. Okay, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm looking at his Twitter and it looks like he's probably just a centrist. I take back everything I said. I'm sorry, Hickam Hive. We were just talking about a fictional Homer Hickam that launches
Starting point is 00:35:48 a rocket. I'll be honest with you. I really thought that that was a made-up guy, and then I remember I've seen him on Twitter before. Well, I don't understand. This guy's not even that old. Didn't we already invent rockets by the fucking time he was like...
Starting point is 00:36:03 He's 80. Is it possible that you're mixing him up with the fellow that Russell Crowe played in A Beautiful Mind, who's also from West Virginia? No, it's the one. It's the movie October Sky. Oh, okay. Was that Homer Hickam October Sky? Yeah, they build a rocket in McDowell County, West Virginia on a strip mine. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And it ends in the courtroom. And it ends with Charlie Utter as the defense attorney and Bob Dylan as the prosecutor. Oh, okay. Yeah, of course. I remember now. Mr. Your Honor, you'll recall these boys. They shot a rocket through my client's window. Homer Hickam.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Okay, anyways. Why, damn, man, I really got far off the mark there. McDowell County will be receiving more than a $2 million federal grant to construct a new training facility for law enforcement and military personnel. Governor Jim Justice made the announcement during his virtual administration briefing on Wednesday the Range 1 training facility will be constructed on a 900-acre site and once completed will include a main operations building, 10 cottages, a less-than- than lethal training facility, multiple shooting ranges.
Starting point is 00:37:25 A less than lethal? Yeah, I don't know what that means. Do you? Why don't they call it a maiming facility? Less than lethal just doesn't ring the same way. Why don't you just say, we're going to teach them how to whip their legs there. I don't know what you're saying. We're going to teach them how to whip their legs there. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:37:49 In a 300-acre land navigation and wilderness survival area, which will provide a realistic training environment for our U.S. military members and enhance the capabilities of our state and local law enforcement officers. Ronnie Wright, do what? That's exactly what we need, is to enhance the capabilities of these guys. I agree. It's like both...
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's like a place where they're training both the troops and the cops. Dude, we're so fucked. We're so boned, dude. I'll never forget this. There was a girl from my church one time that was a state trooper in Moorhead.
Starting point is 00:38:28 She would take me back to school sometimes. We would carpool because I didn't have a car when I was a freshman in there. I should have saw this coming from a mile away. I've made the comment that
Starting point is 00:38:43 trooper training is, you know, I mean, it's probably not as intense as like the Marines or something, but I bet it's pretty crazy, huh? And she became so indignant at that. What? She's like, actually, no, she was like, actually, it's the same training. And I was like, oh, so you like, you know how to how to like you know kill people and stuff like that yeah like what do you think huh and this is like i you know i didn't really have strong opinions i did i've never really liked police i just haven't really ever liked them but there was any sort of political thing behind it right i just don't like people that domineer other people.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And that are so fucking pathetic themselves. But yeah, I just thought that was not great. Then, of course, it was in the middle of a once-in-a-lifetime ice storm, so I wasn't in a position to really protest and get out and walk. I had to be like, oh be oh yeah that sounds sexy that sounds like you're ready are you ready to take on the taliban yeah they said the facility will also bring economic growth to mcdowell county it should give us two million dollars in local revenue the first year it's open governor justice said and about 2 500 visitors a year are
Starting point is 00:40:05 anticipated with 60 new jobs the location of the facility has not been announced here's the kicker department of environmental protection secretary harold ward said the funding is part of 26 million dollars awarded to projects around the state through the abandoned mine lands economic revitalization program so let me just spell this out for you folks this is where they take a little bit of money from all these mining jobs over the years and put it in a big big fund so if your uh granddaddy was you know shooting some shooting at people in the Great Mine Wars or whatever. Everybody on Appalachia Twitter swears up and down their granddaddy was involved in. That money that he
Starting point is 00:40:53 made with his own hands is now funding the guys that he shot at, allegedly. It's a full circle. It's become a full circle. The Department of Environmental it's a full circle it's become a full circle um the department of environmental protections office aml office administers the grant funding which is provided by the office of surface mining word said the department of interior's aml program has awarded more than 180 million dollars for economic development projects across wait, who said that? Harold Ward, DEP Secretary. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:41:29 Our guy in Kentucky is Jim Ward, who used to be our, that same office, used to be our county judge. He's the head of the Kentucky thing. The Kentucky equivalent of the West Virginia DEP. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I was out with some federal mine, The Kentucky equivalent of the West Virginia DEP. Really? Yeah. I'll be good to them. I was out with some federal mine or some state mine inspector guys a few weeks ago, and I said, Jim Ward. I said, Jim Ward. Yeah, I said, our old county judge's name is Jim Ward. He's like, well, yeah, that's the same guy. I was like, what? It's funny.
Starting point is 00:42:01 If I type in Jim Ward, Kentucky, i get jim ward voice actor kentucky he's best known for captain quirk professor charles xavier and chet you betcha damn on the cartoon versions i guess yeah the cartoon versions yeah shit it's reported that he has Alzheimer's And has contracted COVID-19 So he's no longer able to do voice acting Man Godspeed Jim It's fucked up Um Grant applications were evaluated
Starting point is 00:42:37 By a committee of representatives From DEP, West Virginia Department of Commerce Department of Transportation And the Governor's Office Other projects receiving awards include $3 million for the West Virginia Department of Commerce, Department of Transportation, and the Governor's Office. Other projects receiving awards include $3 million for the Cinderella Adventure Resort in Mingo County, a project that will be built on 4,600 acres in the unincorporated town of Cinderella, which includes 22 miles of Hatfield-McCoy trails.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Seems to me there might be some uh ip breach there yeah what if a city's named after disney property is that getting some dicey territory there right i'd name i'd rename my town goofy if i was all right goofy kentucky uh well we're gonna bring these green jobs oh it's yeah the whole pitch is we're gonna bring these green jobs yeah um 12 and a half million for the davis center headquarters facility in tucker county which will repurpose and revitalize existing structures in the Davis area for local residents and visitors to include multifamily dwellings, community arts center, community shops, amphitheater, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:43:55 $5 million for Stonewood I-79 development in Harrison County. $727,000 for taproom co-working synergy center and apartments in Tucker County. Good God. That's bullshit. God, imagine it's like somebody's like, okay, what's the three developments that we're known for with all this
Starting point is 00:44:18 stuff? It's workspaces, apartments, and industrial sites. Okay, now follow me here. What if we just did all three of those things together that's exactly what that is no imagination at all you're right it will provide decentralized flexible workspace options to attract and retain remote workers entrepreneurs and freelancers this facility will house a co-working and small business center with support services to foster economic growth
Starting point is 00:44:45 and diversification, job creation, capital investment, as well as 10 critically needed I'm going to ask you a question. Do you know of any entrepreneur in the free world that says, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to move to Cinderella, West Virginia for the robust opportunities.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. They're really incubating a good space there for people that think like me. Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah. I think the point is that the AML money was supposed to be,
Starting point is 00:45:26 well, I mean, I don't know. A lot of this stuff is supposed to be economic development, right? It's supposed to create jobs. It's supposed to get these green jobs. I personally don't agree that spending them on taproom, co-working, synergy center, and apartments is a good use of money but but i do feel like it kind of falls under the umbrella of what the money is for i'm just astonished at how bad of a name that is tap room which is like that's why everybody wants to do a brewery even though it's not a brewery tap room what is it now tap room co-working synergy center synergy which is just like one
Starting point is 00:46:04 of those useless buzzwords it doesn't mean anything that it's like they scanned over an article about just transition and then picked out five words and then just put them together so that's what we're building well you're right they it's a it is a synergy of industrial park real estate like apartment housing and a brewery a small business like a restaurant food service thing it's the i love it man because like we're at the part now so so i have i just want to kind of stop it's like guys you know that they came out with malls a long time ago don't you like somebody sat down in the late 70s early 80s like you know what what if there was a one-stop shop for everything it's just why don't we just call it just transition mall
Starting point is 00:46:52 now there's a concept terrence follow me here you go into one space and there's like there's a tap room slash brewery uh huh there's a um a a you know a poor man's we working
Starting point is 00:47:10 esque space is there gonna be hot topic cause that nah we're probably hot topics probably not gonna float in Cinderella
Starting point is 00:47:19 West Virginia I'd imagine what the fuck actually actually might be good it's like we just opened a chain of hot
Starting point is 00:47:25 topics and Spencer's gifts all over our blighted mountains it's like me and you we just open a single standing hot topic on top of Pine Mountain like come up here and get your various sundries and evanescence t-shirts
Starting point is 00:47:41 I mean yeah and Evanescence t-shirts. I mean, yeah, it's like we're at the part in the regional economic development thing where it's like they're just combining everything at this point. It's like, fuck it, man. Let's fucking go for broke. Let's be legends. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Fuck it. Synergy, taproom, brewery, coffee shop. Coffee shop. Bitcoin mine. Bitcoin mine. tap room brewery coffee shop coffee shop and and bitcoin mine and and and a trauma and an anima amina animatronic animatronic mine museum farm to table synergy horse gum soap it anyway in my conception of the mall all that would be like but there's one store for each thing yeah you know yeah like i agree why why limit ourselves yeah you know yeah and the thing is though i can't really I'm kind of struggling, though, to see how
Starting point is 00:48:45 a training facility for law enforcement and military personnel fits into that. That's going to bring down the vibe in the mall a little bit. Yeah, I can't. I don't... You imagine you take your family up to an abandoned strip mine and you're thinking, we're going to have a nice we're going to have a nice afternoon at the Synergy store. And if we have enough time, we'll stop by the tap room.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And then you just hear them playing war games and doing like active, you know, like fucking exercises next door. They're like shooting like unhoused people. Yes. Oh, that's what I guarantee you that's what they're doing. It's probably... They're probably building more and more stuff. This is basically a cop
Starting point is 00:49:35 city built in the woods with money derived from legacy coal mining. It's like cop city yeah it's cops it's cop city hill cop city north it's cop city north but if like cop city in atlanta was built with the proceeds of like generations of labor extractive labor generations yes exactly like the the surplus surplus of peanut farms
Starting point is 00:50:07 I don't know what fucking Georgia's main Export product is It's funny because you would think it's peaches But actually South Carolina Produces more No disrespect to our friends in Georgia It's just that you're second And you decided to make that your thing
Starting point is 00:50:23 Yeah Yep It's just that you're second and you decided to make that your thing. Yeah. Which is still good. We're not really first or second in anything here. I think a peach might be my favorite fruit. Yeah. For sure, mine.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Watermelon peach right neck and neck. Anyway, here's my theory, okay? You said something yesterday that, you know, I don't know if you stand by this today or not but i'll tease it out because i kind of think you're on to something you said that we're kind of already in a kind of civil war except that it's like extremely fragmented because everybody's fighting their own little you know everybody lives in their own reality and as such there's like a million different little proxies going on for it yeah i think that like the rise of this like cop culture and all that stuff i mean it's been brewing for a while but it's kind of hitting a fever pitch now
Starting point is 00:51:16 obviously with all this kind of stuff i think it's possible that you know basically, basically what's happening. Like with the thing with the Jordan Ely killing and stuff like that. Like, are people being deputized to just go do violence to people that, you know, are the most powerless people in society? And I know what that sounds like. I know that sounds like, all right, Sexton, did you fall off the turnip truck last night of course that's happening but like i'm saying in like a sort of more coordinated way i think so so i think that it's interesting
Starting point is 00:51:59 to think about because i've kind of been getting back into this unite stuff operation unite i'm kind of thinking about like doing more research into it and been interviewing some more people about it and stuff yeah and it is interesting how the atmosphere right after 9 11 perfectly created this it created a social atmosphere in which it was finally okay for the first time like there was precedence like welfare reform and stuff where like they had like committed themselves policy-wise to a kind of like you know social death social murder of specific groups of people but it definitely seemed like after 9-11 in the atmosphere of that it was it had become so it's like you have a big policy that creates an opening for people to
Starting point is 00:52:54 treat other people like that because you know you're kicking them up by welfare you've deemed them not worthy whatever but like after 9-11 it felt very much like citizens were deputized to go after specific uh you know marginalized or vulnerable communities and populations you saw that with operation unite and we talked about it in that episode yeah from like two years ago but you also saw it obviously with every you know the Patriot Act and stuff. People were encouraged to rat out their neighbors and stuff. They suspected them of being terrorists. Yeah, same thing with Unite.
Starting point is 00:53:37 There's these little micro versions of the bigger Patriot Act that were local installations. Like, what's happening here? Oh, opioid painkillers. Okay, well, let's create these little informal spy networks where we're going to basically valorize private citizens for turning in people struggling with addiction or hustling to make money or whatever it is. That's the pretext for all this, man. like i know that a lot of policymakers and leaders and even some police are have come around on the idea like oh the war on drugs is a failure and it was way too punitive and it didn't work and blah blah blah blah blah and you see events where people acknowledge that stuff but it still doesn't change the basic fact that,
Starting point is 00:54:25 uh, you know, you, that like, that's the pretext for the current sort of moral panic and scare over like homelessness and everything. It's, it's,
Starting point is 00:54:36 I mean, I mean, I don't know, man. It's like, I think that Gabe, why not said this on Twitter? It's like,
Starting point is 00:54:48 it is it is the issue that links up the most fascist reactionary bloodthirsty violent people with you know suit and tie libs it's like that's the issue that i mean other than war even that they can't even agree on it anymore but they can both agree. Just listen to how dehumanizing they are about them, just how they don't see them as people. Well, it's telling that this guy just totally walked after just choking a man to death in front of a bunch of people. But it's also like you've seen this trend kind of happening for a long time because yeah you're right it is kind of the issue in games right i think was you know the issue is is like you know um like you know when you went basically when people like in
Starting point is 00:55:42 san francisco were like lamenting the violence and everything that's going on in San Francisco, not all, but a lot of what they're talking about is just homelessness because people have like, literally this is a city for the rich, by the rich now. And a lot of people don't even know where to go. But it is weird that it's like, like violence and like anti like homeless rhetoric and stuff. It's just like kind of reached a weird point where you're just, it's just kind violence and like anti like homeless rhetoric and stuff it's just like
Starting point is 00:56:05 kind of reached a weird point where you're just it's just kind of in your face about it and like normal people have like really aggressive views toward it yeah you know well i it's it's uh it's to the point like my knee-jerk reaction to that yesterday to that happening Jordan Neely and everything is that like it is it's 100 it's it's it's feels very akin to that guy killing the kid who rang his doorbell or the guy that killed the girl who like drove up his driveway I mean it's like I mean we are in a yeah it's like yeah I mean I guess I still stand by what I said yesterday we are in a, yeah, it's like, yeah, I mean, I guess I still stand by what I said yesterday. We are in a low-grade civil war, but yeah, like every individual is fighting their own individualized, curated civil war against every other individual. Against every other individual in their sort of orbit.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And it's weird, it almost feels like, I mean, comparing it to a capital strike is clearly not a one-to-one, comparing it to a capital strike is clearly not a one-to-one but it feels like almost an overcorrection coming out of the bernie era where like people like bernie you know we're kind of mainstreaming ideas about property public property in the commons and different things to where now like people are like like you even look at the number one show on tv yellowstone it's all about this some rich asshole defending property that he, like, murdered people to take. You know what I mean? And people are taking all the wrong lessons from it. They want to dress like this guy.
Starting point is 00:57:32 They want to put the stickers on their car. All that kind of stuff. But it's like property is king in this country. And, like, it's like we're kind of instilling that, like, oh, well, you have to fight to defend it and all this kind of stuff. And all these people that are just in the world, not by their own elect are interlopers and they must be dealt with, you know, sometimes to a permanent end. why people think crime has gone up when it hasn't that to me says something happened and honestly i think what it is i genuinely think that what it is was that like after i think you could probably trace it back to after 9-11 i think it it wasn't immediate i think it took probably about a decade or 15 years to kind of really get seeped into the populace but like if large swaths of the country think that crime has gone up when it actually hasn't that tells me that they have
Starting point is 00:58:32 become way more paranoid and i think you have to ask why that's the case and i think that a big part of the reason is so i was reading this book the other day by an absolute fucking maniac deranged unhinged psychopath Pat Buchanan the reason I read it I read somewhere about Pat Buchanan that he suffers from
Starting point is 00:59:00 a heart condition caused by untreated chlamydia. Really? He just let it go for a very long time or something. I forget what it's called, though. Interesting, because in this book, he was railing against raw sex. Maybe that's why.
Starting point is 00:59:16 That's why he's a casualty of raw sex. um but he uh he wrote a book that is apparently a kind of guide star or a foundational text for the proud boys yeah called death of the west pat buchanan death yeah pat buchanan i mean you read it and it's like it's like pat buchanan also just one of the most mediocre minds even on the ride. Oh, yeah. It's like very marginal. Yeah. Yeah, he was... What is he, like a paleo-conservative?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, he's just like one of those guys that all anybody ever really knows about him unless you're like really doubted. It's all like, oh, didn't he run for president like once or twice or something? Right, he did. Reform party. He quotes over and over again it as oh didn't he run for president like once or twice or something right he did reform party uh he quotes over and over again how europeans are a dying species and i mean it is literally
Starting point is 01:00:13 white supremacist literature if you took out the word whites and just use the word europeans yeah you know what i'm saying it's like yeah like there are that those kind of conservatives and uh but he had a quote in here and i think it's interesting yeah like there are that those kind of conservatives and uh but he had a quote in here and i think it's interesting because it sums it up about i think kind of what happened with why people see so much crime uh among their and so much distrust and whatever among their fellow americans he says this is at the 1992 republican national convention he said my friends this this election is about more than who gets what it is about who we are it is about what we believe it is about what we stand for as americans there was a religious war going on in our country
Starting point is 01:00:55 for the soul of america it is a cultural war as critical to the kind of nation we shall one day be as was the cold war itself and i think that like that really kind of gets at it because after the cold war ended and after we lost like the big menace you know like the big external menace in the communists right which you have the soviet union collapsed the year before i guess right yeah it's like we turned inward and started trying to root out like fifth column subversives and traitors to the country. And that for a while that people put up with that because it was in the wake of 9-11 and people were like, oh, well, it's not me. It's it's, you know, quote unquote, terrorist. It's Muslim. It's Muslims and Arabs and, and you know brown people that don't look like me so it's fine but it's like
Starting point is 01:01:51 over time that just generally spread throughout the entire fucking population and i think that's the mentality everybody's working on now. Everybody fucking, everybody, like, I mean, it's definitely the social, it's definitely the soil, or the fertile soil for, like, I was like, I've seen it in, like, Florida. They even passed a new, like, Nina posted about it the other day. Florida passes HB 1521. It bans trans people from bathrooms and forces
Starting point is 01:02:28 them to leave if cis people point them out uh which basically means that oh so it's like you could you can use whatever bathroom you want but if it's this person like says this is making me uncomfortable you have to yeah it definitely feels like because like law enforcement employment is going down like they're having a harder and harder time to recruit cops and ceos in jails and prisons and i saw on the back of a lexington city bus they're like starting salary fifty thousand dollars plus sign-on bonus or whatever for like ceos yeah it's like it makes me wonder if like in that environment i mean obviously they're still going to give police departments billions of fucking dollars like regardless how many people they do or don't hire but i also think
Starting point is 01:03:20 that at the same time you will see a concurrent rise of the deputized american citizen to do this shit because basically a bill like that just deputizes any fucking person to harass a trans person just for using a bathroom and that's anybody that's anybody on a connecting flight or on vacation you know what i'm saying it's like or the asshole that killed jordan neely it's like you know basically saying like well there's no consequences if you do this to like disposable people so yeah i that's where we're that's where it's going man it's uh it's not good and also another part of it too about that that is so remarkable and like we talked about this yesterday too like the people
Starting point is 01:04:05 who kind of like watched it happen it's like there's so much ambient violence in america just as as is i mean it is really astonishing just how how much you normalize it yeah uh and how you have conditioned responses to it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We're all like violence-thirsty assholes to some degree or another. Yeah, violence-thirsty, or we have no way to intervene or step in to diffuse something like that. I was talking to Aaron about this last night it's like so i remember you know during the george floyd thing like when they released the video
Starting point is 01:04:54 of derrick chauvin or whatever it's like it's the exact same thing happening and eric gardner it's basically like yeah george derrick chauvin it was a little bit different but it's basically like a chokehold yeah um and you've got people standing around just slowly watching it to death but they're cops and so like that changes the equation a little bit like people aren't just going to run up on cops a lot of the time people aren't going to run up on cops either because a they've been brainwashed to think that everything a cop does is just fine and normal and that's what they're entitled to do or b they're armed to the or b their arms the fucking
Starting point is 01:05:25 teeth and you know i'm just gonna shoot you in the head with no consequences if you do something yeah but when it's just some random asshole on a bus like that's or on the subway it's like that's something entirely yeah it's crazy which i'm not persuaded this guy wasn't a cop well i i thought that too because and honestly the reason I thought that, the very first reason I thought that was the New York Times headline. The New York Times headline, they gave them the exact same passive voice headline that they give to cops. They were like, man dies on subway, video shown with a headlock or something like like that it doesn't it gives doesn't say man kills
Starting point is 01:06:07 yeah man chokes a man on subway to death yeah whatever it doesn't say that yeah didn't even say man chokes another man to death it said something like man dies on subway video surfaces of chokehold or something like that it was like something completely fucking like like kind of like when like yeah like it was a few days ago when that cop murdered his wife and kid and his self yes and they like cop dies at home and like you read that headline you're like what is that then you read the whole thing it's like oh this guy it was a murder suicide the cop killed her yeah yeah it's exactly like that's that headline and so when i saw that headline i was like is this did like a plainclothes cop or some shit and then when i saw they let him go i was like whoa what
Starting point is 01:06:48 the fuck yeah i just don't know yeah that's a that's not a good development but i mean that's a somebody's i mean a lot of people pointed this out on twitter but that's what happens with an eric adams mayoral thing too you know it's just too much deference for those type of people in this like i heard somewhere that like uh eric adams like had reprimanded somebody like maybe the new york city comptroller uh for calling it vigilantism right he did what to? He reprimanded the New York City comptroller because the comptroller referred to it as vigilantism. Dude, Governor Hochul. Is Hochul?
Starting point is 01:07:32 How do you say her name? Hochul? The New York governor. Yeah, her statement was incredible. Did you see it? What'd she say? No. She said, let's see here. She said said people who are homeless in our subways many
Starting point is 01:07:48 of them in the throes of mental health episodes and that's what i believe were some of the factors involved here there's consequences for behavior just like everybody is just like yeah there's consequences for behavior like somebody will step up dude and it's just a heartless fucking violent society and i i fucking hate it i fucking hate i fucking hate it because like the biggest assholes in my life that i've ever known are basically ascendant well and it's it's like it's maddening like these people should should not like it shouldn't be that way yeah part of it is like the way that you see people talking about and treating homeless people now is very akin to how people were talked about and treated in the early years of the opioid epidemic calling people zombies and acting like they just need to be
Starting point is 01:08:47 exterminated and just you know they're a social problem that needs to be wiped out like over time the problem became so drastic i saw a statistic the other day that blew me the fuck away um i don't know if this is true or not i couldn't figure out i don't even know how you would know but between 2018 and 2022 more americans died of overdose deaths than american casualties were there were in world war one world World War II, and Vietnam combined. Yeah. Which are always talked about especially Vietnam as this
Starting point is 01:09:31 insanely bloody thing. Yeah, it's absolutely insane. And I guess the point I'm making is that that is a social problem that is so quote unquote widespread. Even rich people deal with it, right's like a cross-class thing like even wealthy people deal with addiction and as a result there has been a space opened up in the last five to ten years where people are more
Starting point is 01:09:59 receptive to things like harm reduction and sap you know suboxone stuff like that they're more they're more receptive to that but at the same time they still have to have some sort of they still have to displace that sort of like general you know i don't know what the word i'm looking for like that general attitude about people they have to have a population or a demographic to sort of like treat like that. Yeah. And so it's like just been displaced off of onto like the homeless at large. Yeah. And.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I mean, it's it's. I don't know, it's it is really disgusting, especially because. I mean, I don't know, we talked about it before we did we talked about it in the bogus beggar episode yeah i mean it's been a recurring theme it's like you know the people who you again it's like cliche to say but it's like the people who you grew up who grew up telling you to like you know be a good, virtuous Christian. Good little boy. Yeah, it's like these people have no compassion for... They have no compassion for these people.
Starting point is 01:11:14 For anybody. It is true. It's like... You always hear people in the church bemoaning the great falling away and everybody turning their way, but this is why. It's because nobody sees God there. Nobody sees compassion there. Nobody sees help or shelter from the storm or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Yeah. Yeah, it's really fucking concerning. But yeah, that's my takeaway. Every fucking American is just at a moment's notice just fucking seconds away just because like i read the article about like what happened with that guy and he wasn't doing anything but just screaming yeah like that i mean he wasn't like punching anybody swinging at anybody trying to hurt anybody waving a gun around like none of that yeah he just was a a quote-unquote nuisance who made people uncomfortable and had to be just summarily executed for it yeah i mean i don't man. And also, it's just like the amount of people online who just.
Starting point is 01:12:29 You know, just go immediately, just go to bat for. For the guy, for the for the Marine guy, just like he's a good citizen, he's just, you know, doing what he had to do, blah, blah, blah. You don't know anything about this guy. This guy could be straight from Langley. You don't fucking know. You have no fucking idea, right. Oh, man. I just hate these fucking people.
Starting point is 01:12:55 All the compact mag people. Oh, that one dude. We've talked about his shit before. What's his name? Eddie Aponte or whatever. I hear that stupid ass tweet he has. It's like, I don't center morality, and that's why they find me unintelligible. I was like, oh, yeah, that's why we find you unintelligible.
Starting point is 01:13:16 It's like, I'd love to see this guy getting choked out within an inch of his life, and I walk by it. It's just like, Eddie, listen, I'd love to intervene, man, but I'm not centering morality anymore after reading your reading your latest for compact and also it's just not like some great moral act to like you know intervene in a situation like that like i understand you it's like it's like difficult to you know sometimes like things are jarring when they happen but i don't feel like that's a hard one in this case well i think that you're you're right it's like it's not
Starting point is 01:13:48 yeah it doesn't have to be some great act of moral courage it's just like can everybody just chill the fuck out like can we just you know what about this necessitates a violent response yeah it's interesting like we talked about it on last week's episode this question of violence but it is a part and it's something that i've had to do a lot of self-reflection on and honestly it's honestly something that i hadn't even really thought about prior to our episode last week just like a how much of my life has been kind of shaped and determined by violence b how much of my reactions to stress involve like violent uh reactions whether it's like some sort of like self-harm or you know what i mean like
Starting point is 01:14:41 just even like fucking like punching a brick wall or something you know what i'm saying like doing some sort of it's just like what is that what the fuck it's just like it's just why is that why is that in us yeah exactly just raised by people for whom like that is a that is a uh adequate stress response stress response to something it's like just how much of that is inherent in every single american social relation and self-conception and uh uh aspect you know aspect of american life it's just never talked about like what is violence why are we surrounded by at all times yeah yeah and nobody wants to engage it in an honest way um because we all hate each other i mean like what what other what other what else would the outcome be we've been conditioned that way though you know we've been conditioned to distrust our
Starting point is 01:15:40 neighbors we've been conditioned everybody's trying to get one up on me and it's really the people trying to get one up on you i mean we already know what i'm gonna say you know what i mean like yeah this country is a country that like you feel like every fucking step you take somebody's trying to hold you up by your ankles and shake every dime out of your pockets you know what i mean it's rage for that that we have then like sort of like projected onto our friends and neighbors and the people around us and stuff like that you know yeah you're absolutely right people that don't really don't have who themselves don't have much power oftentimes you know what i mean truly like we have been
Starting point is 01:16:16 like that is really when you talk about alienation people are like oh it's loneliness to me when you talk about alienation it's violence like that's what i think of when i think of alienation it's either violence done to yourself or not violence done to others yeah like and that doesn't even have to be physical it could be financial it could be legal i mean like it's it's i'm just saying that like once you enter into that nexus of like you're in competition with every other individual, this is the inevitable outcome. You don't see other people as people.
Starting point is 01:16:52 And for a while, because America had these institutions of mass mobilization and had unions and churches and everything else, you could kind of stave off some of those aspects of that some of the violent aspects of that alienation but once all those things erode of course people are just going to start either mowing each other down murdering each other on the fucking subway i mean and of course the people who will prevail in a situation like that have the law on their side it's like fucking greg abbott like pardoning
Starting point is 01:17:25 talking about pardoning that guy who killed a black lives matter protester yeah even though he had he had said on facebook multiple times that he was gonna do it that he's also a pedo he's like been fucking around with like underage girls and stuff i mean it's like those that's who the law is protecting and i mean those yeah like yeah if you're a pedophile out there it's like you could redeem yourself just by like shooting a protest or something in these people's minds the same people that were uh you know fucking just pissing and moaning about groomers and disney and everything for months you know yeah yeah man i don't know man oh man it's left me spiritually
Starting point is 01:18:10 void at a time when my body's weak not been a good couple days I feel awful my throat is so scratching and dry cause I got so much drainage going down the back of my throat.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Oh, yeah. And people have hit me up like, yo, I heard you talk about allergies. I've got the perfect medicine for you. I've got the perfect antidote for you. And all of it is stuff I've already tried. And then you're like, damn, what? What? I need a solution.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Then he's like, just do it. You're like, fuck, got me again. I'm just trying to find a solution to my allergies and I keep getting owned. I know. I fall for it every time. I like, what is it? And I get an unsolicited dick pic. I'm like, God damn it.
Starting point is 01:19:07 How did we get here? How did we get here? Why are my DMs filled with unsolicited penises? I was trying to figure out who the musical guest was at the 92 RNC that set all this in motion. Who was it? I can't figure it out. You know, Rage Against the Machine played at the DNC in 2000. I don't know if they played at it.
Starting point is 01:19:37 I think they were at it. Does that make sense? Yeah, I don't think they were on the bill. They played at it. I think that would have been a little beneath them. But for that time, it's hard to think of strictly political acts. Rage Against the Machine, obviously, Public Enemy.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Punk rock was maybe probably the first, like, when music started to become, quote-unquote, like, a political expression. You know what I'm saying? Like, an explicitly political one. Like, before that, there was, like, Elvis and fucking, like, the Beatles, and they were like, oh, they're sexy haircuts. They're making me horny, and that's a political thing.
Starting point is 01:20:24 But, like, it wasn't really until, like, punk, I feel like, They're sexy haircuts. They're making me horny, and that's a blue thing. But it wasn't really until punk I feel like that. Well, that's not true. Folk music was also explicitly political. You know what I mean? Like Woody Guthrie and shit like that. Pete Seeger. Pete Seeger, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Southpaw. Yeah. Bob Dylan. Unless we forget. Our hero today. today come on you masters of war I mean do bands usually play the RNC I don't know I thought I always thought they did because or maybe I'm thinking I'm confusing that with presidential swearing-ins. What do you call them? Inauguration?
Starting point is 01:21:13 I'm like Ted Cruz called a rim a basketball ring. That's what I was with with inaugurations. What do you call it? The event, big event. They put their hand on the Bible. Speaking of basketball. Swearing in. You know, like on basketball, like they have the face guards.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yes. Has any basketball player ever worn like the silicone latex mask from Vanilla Sky that Tom Cruise wears? Someone should do that. That would be tight, dude. You know how intimidating that would be. That would be tight, dude. You know how intimidating that would be? That would be so tight. Yeah, like, put your nose guard inside a kink mask and
Starting point is 01:21:51 go out there and see if you put up numbers. Or you could do... Why don't basketball players do face-off? I know this is the second time face-off has come up on this show in the last few weeks, but truly, why doesn't, like, Anthony Towns I know this is the second time Face Off has come up on this show in the last few weeks, but truly, why doesn't Anthony Towns switch faces with... Joel Embiid.
Starting point is 01:22:16 That's a face guard. That would add a wrinkle to things that would be interesting. Yeah. Is Carl Anthony Towns playing for the Philadelphia 76ers tonight, or is he? I saw your tweet the other day about Steph Curry being like that player in Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter, where they just get you up against the corner.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I hate Steph Curry. I laughed pretty hard about that. Steph Curry is what's wrong with America, too. He is great. I'm not being a hater out of hand. I recognize his greatness, but I just hate that type. That's what I am. That's the type I am on the court.
Starting point is 01:23:09 I'll make you wish you never left the house yeah it's because i've put multiple layers of lacquer on the basketball court floor before and i've been training in those conditions where i've like i've you know i've been training in high lacquer environments to where like i get really like dizzy and foggy headed but like i can start to cut through it because i've been training in it but like other people aren't ready for it so it's like everybody has navy seal training we're like do you remember people used to say man at navy seal training they let you die and they resuscitate you i was like and for the years I was like, fuck,
Starting point is 01:23:45 that's hardcore. It is hardcore. Fuck, that's crazy, man. Yeah. Like you get, you have to die.
Starting point is 01:23:52 You have to drown and come back. And then only, and then, and only then are you the few, the proud. Well, no, that's the Marines.
Starting point is 01:24:01 You're a seal. Yeah. Um, I doubt they'll be doing that's the Marines. You're a SEAL. Yeah. I doubt they'll be doing that at the military personnel training facility in West Virginia. I think they'll be killing people and bringing them back to life there. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:24:18 I could see it. Maybe. Do we still have that video of the Wattsburg police testing their new tasers out on each other? I think it's on YouTube. I looked for it the other day. I couldn't find it. They probably heard us talk about it.
Starting point is 01:24:34 You gotta remember I forgot about this. I realized that after the flood people do listen to this. And they purposely listen to get mad. You got to remember that. That's why you can't mention the name of the gym with the lacquer floor.
Starting point is 01:24:51 It's like... In fairness, there's only one. I think deductive reasoning suggests they will figure it out. Yeah. Yeah, well, so... But I think that everyone's self-conscious now. Yeah. Yeah, well, so. But I think that everyone's self-conscious now. They think we're going to put them on blast or something.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Listen, just because we put you on blast doesn't mean you can't still keep doing your thing. Yeah, do your thing. Just keep doing your thing. Please. We need the content. Please stop not doing your thing. In fact, I love many people I put on blast. It's just ball busting.
Starting point is 01:25:30 It's just ball busting. Before we go, I know we're at an hour and a half, but holy shit, I wanted you to read these pieces real quick. Because there's like a weird thread in there that I didn't understand. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Here, can I send them to you real quick send them over
Starting point is 01:25:47 let's see what we got this week ugh come on you masters of war I'm gonna buy a used car I'm gonna drive it to the Ukraine and turn it over to a Zav battalion They're gonna fight against Putin
Starting point is 01:26:14 See where somebody made an attempt on Putin's life according to the Kremlin Really? Yeah, they tried to drone his ass in the middle of the night They tried to drone him in the middle of the night? Yeah. Let's see what we got here. It's terribly sad to see a long-time business in neon having to close as an effect of the flood. Family Drug had been in the business for as long as I can remember.
Starting point is 01:26:39 They were a very convenient and friendly way for locals to get their medications. Very convenient and friendly way for locals to get their medications. This is proof of just how badly the system meant to help people has failed and done very little to help people. Many people are still struggling. Neon will probably never be the same. I used to go there for family drug. Sometimes. I want to stop going into the library if that woman is going to keep beating on computers with a hammer.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I thought you were supposed to be quiet in the library. Scared the hell out of me. I spent a lot of time in the library, and I've not seen that happen, but they might be referring to me. That woman. Yeah. That woman with the short hair.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Yeah. Sitting atop Pine Mountain in the dark with the billions of stars twinkling above and the red lights of dozens of antenna towers twinkling below you'd think would have a better cell signal. Mm-hmm. Hey, amen. Amen. Amen.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Amen. You would think so. Ah. To a certain person,men. You would think so. Ah, see. To a certain person, this is a privately owned graveyard. My mom and dad own the property. It's for the family, not every Tom, Dick, and Harry. You tried to change the name of the graveyard. You're barking up the wrong tree.
Starting point is 01:28:01 The name of the cemetery is and will remain Williams and Adams Cemetery Uh huh Why try to change the name of a cemetery You know That is an interesting strategy if you're just trying to acquire property Just show up one day and put Under new management sign on it and just change the name And just see how long it takes them to notice
Starting point is 01:28:19 I said this is how the west was won I'm sorry I don't know I don't know what to tell you this is how the West was won. I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. This is mine now. This is for all you Democrats out there. Can you imagine what four more years of Biden will do to you? Look what we're paying out now. We people on Social Security and SSI can hardly even make it.
Starting point is 01:28:40 And you Democrats sit back, gripe about everything else that's going up. and make it. And you Democrats sit back, gripe about everything else that's going up. I hope you have enough sense when the time comes around to get out and vote for Donald J. Trump. Here's one of my favorite type of speaker pieces.
Starting point is 01:28:56 The one that's like, you know, since we don't have Swap Shop anymore, it's like, yeah, dude. I have a 35-inch RCA TV to give away 68% mint condition. Please call 633-2151 thank you i i agree like without swap shop there's a huge hole in the community like who the fuck is gonna fill that to a certain lady how does it feel that you no longer have to argue with and always blame things on her? The same things you accuse her of, you're doing yourself and you know it.
Starting point is 01:29:33 You don't think people know about your going and talking to the guy with the glasses on and begging him to tell you what he's going to do. You had a man to start with, so why were you out trying to get another one? You dogged her over the same thing you were doing and are still doing. The man with the glasses. Damn were doing and are still doing. The Man with the Glasses. Damn. Damn. What a player. That's like a good noir title.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Yeah. The Man with the Glasses. How to tell the difference between Ron DeSantis and Mickey Mouse. One is a smelly, slimy rodent, and the other has a national favorite cartoon character for many decades. Has been a national favorite cartoon character for many decades. Damn. Fuck. Scotty's ass.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Shots fired, man. It's so sad that our children are not safe in schools anymore. It's really sad, though, when adult employees in the school start dating students. This is wrong. employees in the school start dating students. This is wrong. It's a reference to a very high-profile case currently rocking the criminal justice system and newspapers
Starting point is 01:30:29 in Fletcher County. Ah, I see. That's what happens when you're in a small town. It's like, sometimes a case comes along and rocks everything. Everybody gets invested in it. Yeah. Women, be sure not to start dating a man who just got divorced.
Starting point is 01:30:48 He's nothing but trouble. Most of them will still be involved with their ex-wife, but will be trying to use you up. Women, wake up. Men are awful. Hey, agreed, sis. To a certain man, I need you to bring that Batman truck over here and give me a ride in it.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Will that thing fly? I know exactly what they're talking about. I see that truck everywhere. I know exactly who it is. That black and orange one. Let's see what we got here. To the person who said Jesus is ugly and directed us to read Isaiah 53. Isaiah 11.1 says Jesus is a root from the stump of Jesse.
Starting point is 01:31:24 The book of 1 Samuel. This is the one I was talking about. Jesus is a root from the stump of Jesse The book of 1 Samuel This is what I was talking about This is a saga, I have no idea I guess I missed last week's speaker piece But I don't know what it's for There's multiple references to it in today's speaker piece We're going to have to go back to the archives here Let's see, I'm going to start all over
Starting point is 01:31:41 To the person who said Jesus is ugly And directed us to read Isaiah 53. Isaiah 11.1 says Jesus is a root from the stump of Jesse. Book of 1 Samuel 9 and 2 and 16.12 says nothing about him stand out like Saul or David who were gorgeous. who were gorgeous. Jewish people knew about Jesus and nothing about him made them believe he was a prince of peace as prophesied in Isaiah 9
Starting point is 01:32:08 and Isaiah 49 7 and 53 and 3 and the 22nd book Psalm verse 6 tells us that he was rejected and despised by the Jewish nation. Why? Because he was so handsome? Is that the implication? Yeah, he was too handsome to be Jewish.
Starting point is 01:32:26 I like how this person's devolved into anti-Semitism as this goes along. This person simultaneously became more anti-Semitic and argued more that the reason they rejected him was because he was too hot. That's the argument here.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Yeah, the reason Jesus was crucified is he was too sexy. Oh, no. Oh, no. Don't stab his side. Don't stab his side. He's so sexy. I like your question.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I understand your conclusion, but I disagree. Thank you. People, I am a Democrat, but I did not vote for Joe Biden. I could tell he was mentally unstable, and so can you. But he's not only destroying America, he's also destroying our Democratic Party. I feel so sorry for the old boy. His family ought to have him committed if they truly love him. Have a nice day.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Does it have Joe Biden committed while he's still president? It's like, you'll have Trump running from prison. Running for president from the psych ward. I love it. Jesus Christ is no person to call ugly. He is a symbol of love to the whole
Starting point is 01:33:44 world. He's absolutely beautiful. That's what I'm talking about. Who called Jesus ugly? Who called him ugly last week? He's absolutely beautiful, guys. It must be nice to be a live-in at the home of the prosecuting
Starting point is 01:34:00 attorney. Nobody else could have gotten over. Why, that wasn't any good. This is a small town where everybody knows everybody. Word gets around, people start to talk about what's going on in this town. Much has been
Starting point is 01:34:16 happening, but nothing has been tried. Just wondering what's up in this town. I don't know what they're angling for. Just wanted to just wanted to everybody just wanted to offer everybody an update on the gas prices they are 20 cents a gallon cheaper in Wise, Virginia
Starting point is 01:34:35 amen that's why I live over there now brother I sure would like to know if the authorities would give my gun back to me if it was found in the possession of an alleged drug dealer. Edison Banks hired his nurse on the referral of a friend. That tells you what kind of friends Edison Banks
Starting point is 01:34:54 has, doesn't it? Editor's question. If you referred someone for a job, could you be certain you knew everything there is to know about the person? Question mark. The editorial staff at the Eagles all the time giving us something to chew on. Yeah, I agree. You could definitely chew on that for a while.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Let's see. A recent Fox News poll shows that 87% of voters, I think this is the last one, favor background checks for gun purchases. 81% favor making 21 the minimum age to buy a gun. 80% want mental health care checks on all gun buyers. 80% want flags for people who
Starting point is 01:35:32 are dangerous to themselves or others. 77% want a 30-day waiting period to buy a gun, and 61% want an assault weapons ban. And yet, Republican majorities and many state legislators are voting against the will of the people by rapidly rolling back gun laws um what do you think about that well one more here
Starting point is 01:35:56 like the song says here we go again lklp is people up jen Jenkins wanting assistance but nobody wants to go up there thank you very much um okay I found it I found it in last week's speak your peace it says I was wrong about Jesus being ugly in
Starting point is 01:36:19 Psalms forgive me for that it's in Isaiah 53 that's pure hatership hey guys a little mea culpa here i'm sorry i uh had said jesus was ugly in psalms it's it's isaiah when we find out he's an ergo wait so that means he must have mentioned it in the previous Speak Your Peace. The previous week's Speak Your Peace. This has been like a three-week-long saga of calling out Jesus for being ugly. He's absolutely beautiful, according to Psalm here. Man, why can't...
Starting point is 01:37:00 I've got to find this. Did you know that Jesus was ugly? If you don't believe me, read Psalms 53. Have a nice day. That's what it says. Okay, what he's talking about is Isaiah 53. What's he saying in Isaiah 53? The scripture says he has no form or comeliness that men should desire him.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Yeah, he had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him. Nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by mankind. He was wounded for our transgressions. He was bruised for our iniquities, all that. He's saying Jesus was like a five, maybe a six. Yeah, he's like... Certainly not ugly, though.
Starting point is 01:37:39 They're like, Jesus is like a Kansas City six and Miami three, you know. Just an average looking cat. Well, he's a better man than I am because instead of turning water into wine, I'd be making myself gorgeous and with a mass of Johnson. That's the first things I would do if those powers. Agreed. That's why I wasn't picked as the savior. Couldn't be trusted.
Starting point is 01:38:10 I agree. Okay. That about wraps it up for this week. Thank you for listening to our program. Please go to the Patreon. P-A-T-R-E-O-N.com slash Trailbilly Workers Party.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Go check us out there. Go listen. I do have a request from our friends in the WGA that are striking now. There's a Action Network link going around hosted by the LADSA where you can donate money, and we'll share that in the show notes if you feel so inclined to help our friends out there and old Holly weird. Please help our friends. Please. So, yeah, certainly go check your couch cushions
Starting point is 01:38:59 and throw some in there if you can. Honestly, this really is a pretty big deal, this strike is, there if you can honestly this really is a pretty big deal this strike is because it's like if you can just outsource tv writing to chat gpt and ai programs and shit yeah we're all fucked man yeah it's like a yeah it's like next yeah it's like it's the proving ground to see if they can get by with it yeah it's the one thing they can't test out in in eastern kentucky first yeah so it's like that's right like our friends in la right now are figuring out what it is to be a hillbilly so uh there's that but it's also just funny it's like i was telling friend of the show i won't say who but uh but you know friend of ours it's it's works in tv and it's like you know story you know everybody's kind of bagging on that girl it's like
Starting point is 01:39:53 chat gpt doesn't have childhood trauma which is kind of yeah obviously like cringe right but i thought it was i thought it was kind of a funny joke it's like come on it's a joke you're on strike you make jokes, come on. It's a joke. You're on strike. You make jokes on strike. Yeah, you know, that's true. I guess maybe we should just kind of lighten up about it and not assume it was like, you know. Yeah, people were being so ridiculous about that. Yeah, people were kind of flipping out about it.
Starting point is 01:40:15 But the other thing is, like, she kind of has a point, though, because it's like, story is what it is to be human. You know what I mean? Like, you just see it you could just see it everywhere this is how we've made sense of our existence from you know from time we stepped out the primordial lose and you know i think uh you know i think it's a worthy fight here you know and uh all those people that are like uh it's funny people uh you know everybody watches tv shows all we talk about a goddamn tv shows this that and the third and it's funny. People, you know, everybody watches TV shows. All we talk about are goddamn TV shows, this, that, and the third.
Starting point is 01:40:47 And it's like all these morons that like think that every TV writer is like just independently wealthy, you know, living in the Hollywood Hills or something. Or either that or there's like a TV fairy that just makes the shows while we're all sleeping at night. And then we just wake up and Better Call Saul's on or whatever it is you're into. And it's ridiculous, and we need to get behind them and support them in that effort. And that's all I got to say about that. That's all I got to say about that. And that's all I got to say about that. That's all I got to say as well.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Thanks for listening. Go support the Strikers. Stop making fun of that lady with the sign. Yeah, I had enough about the sign. It's fine. The sign's fine. We'll see you next time. Adios.
Starting point is 01:41:38 See you out there.

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