Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 291: Rodeo Is Life

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

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I want to say that the guy who signed off on that robocall and that laxing of restrictions where debt callers can call you all hours of the night and shit. You used to be. At 9 o'clock, you had a safe haven until the next morning. Exactly. It was like running into a church and claiming. What did they call that? If you were being chased by someone, you could running into a church and claiming. What'd they call that if you were being chased by someone,

you could run into a church and claim asylum or amnesty or something like that? Amnesty. Whatever, yeah. It's like, sorry, you can't cross this holy threshold. People don't do that enough anymore. I don't know why I haven't thought of that. There's been plenty of times I've been in trouble.

I should have just ran inside of a church, closed the double doors shut. Do they still, I want to know if they still do this. I mean, I guess it's sort of a similar idea, but, you know, do firehouses still take babies that get left on, like, you know, on the steps or a church? I guess a church as well, right? You know what I mean? Like a little bundle.

I hope not in Wattsburg, Kentucky. Dude, where do you think firefighters come from? Those firefighters are all just raised. They're just babies that have been raised in the way of the firefighters. Not a lot of people know this, but if you were ever abandoned as an orphan, you became a firefighter,

and that's why they did that. It's like Tarzan with firefighters. He's like, instead of swinging through divides and shit, he's swinging up and down the firefighter pole. Or Moses. I guess Moses is another example of an abandoned baby that turned out okay. Shout out to the abandoned babies, man.

There's another, Dr wing lock ing a kung fu master slash rite aid pharmacist in whitesburg kentucky that claims he was abandoned in a brown paper sack in tiananmen square in china and who but and who but the world kung fu master sin tay came along and found him and raised him as his own. In a paper bag? What was he, like, Hatcher of Egg or some shit? Like, what the fuck? I don't know, bro, but I tell you what,

Dr. John could stand on an empty pop can without crushing it. I mean, he's come a long way. I mean, imagine you're found in a paper bag along with, like, a mouthwash bottle of E&J brandy. Yeah. And in Tiananmen Square.

And then like you, over the course of your life, you slowly make your matriculation into Whitesburg, Kentucky. Where you can kick. Yeah, the Kung Fu world of Whitesburg, Kentucky. The Kung Fu pharmacist. That should be a movie. Well, let's not get it twisted.

John Ng's known the world over. That's true. He's trained world champions, national champions, everything. But he makes his home in Whitesburg, Kentucky. But Ng family kung fu rings bells in that world. Yeah, it's like how Yellow Springs is a small town that has Dave Chappelle. Well, we have johnny i have johnny yeah he did he he is he subdued a robber one time until the authorities

arrived and he had him he had him in some hold where the guy's hands were up to his face or here and he just moved his knees and smashed him like like this. So he's just knocking it back and forth on his cheeks. It just tumbled, it just tumbled, just knee whopping him. I like that. That also sounds like a, go ahead Terrence, my bad. Well maybe just, all I was gonna say is just like, if you're talking about immobilizing someone, you know, cause it's been in the discourse lately with like jordan neely and everything it's like what what the fuck

why does everyone go towards the immediate most violent lethal action like what happened this is the thing man this is like people talk about like tradition and they like talk about like um the loss of quote-unquote traditional masculinity and return or whatever it's like men were men when they could immobilize someone in a clever way like that's really yeah what it's like people you know what i'm talking about like people yeah it's just like uh real masculinity is not like harming somebody real masculinity is if you can get them in a hold enough to kind of just embarrass them a little bit yeah or like even like you know even like uh the the classic duel i mean you know to the death

sure but you know one man would probably invite another, but, you know, one man would probably invite another one by slapping him in the face with like, you know, like a white glove, you know what I mean? Then they would walk away

and turn to each other and face each other and stand apart. You know, it was a... You know what I mean? There was honor to it, I guess is what I'm saying. Have y'all seen that sport

where people... Or Tom just referenced it. Where people stand there and they slap the shit out of each other? It's like they should make- The slap league? Have you seen that? The power slap?

Nah, I've heard of slap boxing. There's a slap league? It's these guys and they take turns slapping and usually don't take turns if you run up on, what's that guy's name? Big Pat something? Yeah, they said no one survives a slap from him.

This guy did, and then he keyed it up, and then the master became, the student became the master. Yes, I think that they should do what you said, Aaron. You slap each other with white, like you take off your glove one finger at a time and slowly inch it off and then you slap the shit out of your opponent with that glove.

Yeah, yeah, man. We don't need to be choking people out, you know? Yeah. We need to be trying to actually kill people. Or even just like, even just like a lasso. Like, you know, like throwing a rope over someone and it goes all the way over them

and then to their feet and you pull it tight and they just pull a vehicle like a cowboy the wild wild west like a sheriff that's the thing like people all these dudes are training like alt-right guys and people on the left too, like John Brown, gun club, or whatever. Everybody's training to just absolutely obliterate the shit out of each other. And it's like,

y'all are all fucking up because what I'm doing is I'm just training how to cleverly. Hog tie. I'm training how to hog tie. Terrence is going to get rodeo on him. He's got, you know, here they put those like women's panties on like a pig. That's what Terrence is going to get rodeo on him. He's got, you know, here they put those, like, women's panties on like a pig

and then tie. That's what Terrence is going to do, just humiliate people. Dress them up like a clown or something while he's got them lassoed. I just want to do, like, ingenious Looney Tunes traps, you know what I'm saying? Like, paint, like, a tunnel on the side of a wall and shit like that. Or maybe, like,

or maybe, like, you know what I mean? Like, have somebody walk over a pit that's been covered over with leaves so they just drop into it no spikes at the bottom or we can spice it up maybe sometimes but you know what i'm hearing what i'm hearing is the bemoaning of the death of the booby trap yeah man the whimsical booby trap when's the last time you heard of a good booby trap there's none anymore they don't use booby traps anymore dude remember the ancient egyptians do this right like you go like king tut's tomb and you're subject to some booby traps i mean i think i think uh you know i knew there was resurgence with the booby trap well i read the show in the 90s there were these shows especially on

nickelodeon these kids channels where it was like um you know escape from the temple of doom or some shit like that you know what i mean yeah but that was the hidden temple yeah yeah they tried to bring it back a couple years ago but uh that was doll that was ass bro that was like a debordian thing though it was like it was a collective acknowledgement that we could no longer have the booby trap. It's true. It was a Foucaultian type of... We projected it into the mediated space where our fantasies of booby traps could then be expanded upon and lived out. But in the real world, that's the thing like people talk about like

january 6th like that's that's the funniest thing to me it's like okay you let them storm your building and you didn't even have you didn't even have a giant boulder roll out of a closet when they opened it and chased someone down a hall you didn't even have you didn't even have like a poison tip spear like yeah you had poison darts i mean i mean the q the q the q anon shaman you know he came dressed for the occasion too not some not so much as a trip wire that landed him in some sort of a net he came dressed to be booby trapped andpped, and they didn't even meet. You're right. They did not rise to the occasion.

And in the process set a dangerous precedent. I mean, also, too, you know what I mean? I mean, there are definitely booby-traps. They're more deadly, but also very comical and clever. I mean, you have all this money, you know what I'm saying, to protect this hollowed institution, and you don't even have, like, those closing walls, you know what I'm saying? Yes. That close someone in. Like, we really, yo yo they really need to up the security bed i think uh i think if they did that we would have seen a we've seen a better outcome like that they they

fucked up like employing the dc capital police as their like security guard no you need like 200 little macaulay caulkin motherfuckers from home alone motherfuckers yeah those that was booby trap that was great booby trap content like tarantulas crawling on people people stepping on nails stepping on nails ice in the stairs classic god man yo you're so right man if i were like if i were uh if i were uh i guess national security was instead fostered by a bunch of little maulay Culkins, yo, I feel like it would be a lot cheaper, more humane, and a lot funnier. You know what I mean?

It'd be comfortable. The Joint Chiefs of Staff are being replaced by a bunch of shithead nine-year-olds. Who have been left alone. They've been left home alone for the week. Go ahead, Tom. Go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. No, go ahead, Tom. Go ahead. They've been left home alone for the week. Has to make sure. Go ahead, Tom, go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead. No, go ahead, Tom.

Go ahead. I didn't say nothing. Nah, I was just going to say, if there's nothing more to say on booby traps, we need to get down to brass tacks here real quick. Yeah, what? We got MGK versus Jack Harlow ensconced in the war of wards. War of wards. War of wards. in Scottsdale. War of words.

War of walls. War of wars. Are they beefing? Is that what's going on? I just saw MGK's fired the first, the opening salvo. Yeah. So, is this truly the death of rap? I mean, is this its death rattle?

And this is a news, yeah. Yeah, I feel like this is the culmination of a slow death spiral, man. No one's going to be talking about this. I didn't ask for it, but I was just going to say, are you going to be on the right side of history and go Harlow, or are you going to ride with that? I should be on the right side of history and go Harlow, or are you going... Is that the right side of history? Are you going to ride with that? I was going to...

I should clarify, I've never actually listened to Jack Harlow. I'm sure that, like, it's fun, but the... But I do know that Machine Gun Kelly... I always get him confused with Marjorie Taylor Greene. They've got, like, similar... They've got similar...

MGK and... Yeah, that's an easy mistake to make. Both blondes. I get them confused with Yellow Wolf now. Yeah. They kind of both blur as the same person. Yeah. Well, MGK has come out

and he said that... He said that Jack Harlow's jacked the flow of Drake. And then he's also got this great line where he references Kubrick's like most well-known movie. And then his next line is that might've went over your heads. It's like, I think we've all seen it. I think we know exactly what you're talking about,

brother. I love that. He like references like Ant-Man or like a Marvel movie. He's like, that might have gone over your heads, though. References Ed Gate or some shit like that. Yeah. I'm small and then I get big like I'm Paul Rudd in Ant-Man. That might have went over some of y'all's heads, man.

Bars. Y'all remember when in Rolling Stone when he had all those insane fucking things like he said megan fox approached him for the first time who's since left his ass and she said i smell weed and he said i am weed yeah and just thought it was the like the deepest shit anybody ever said you know what though i think just for just for him saying that i I got to join his side, man. Also, too, I want to ask you a question. Rap battles of yesteryear, rap beefs, often ended in tragedy, financial ruin. Things that no one is too ever proud of, but people at least get to talk about for years to come what do you what do you how do you see this uh this latest uh i don't even call milk toast uh wonder bread rap uh rap battle rap beef uh transpiring talk uh here's what i'd say there's being a white rapper rapper is tough in the sense

that i feel like you have to have this like excoriating self-analysis for it to work. The reason Eminem worked for a while until it didn't work anymore was because when you're 26, you could be a white rapper, and it worked because you don't take yourself too seriously. Yeah, yeah. When you're 56, it's like, I've been doing this for 30 years, okay. Yeah, I don't know, man. You know what I mean? And not saying it's not even would do this for 30 years okay yeah i don't know man you know what i mean and not saying it's not even a question of talent the problem i feel like with white rappers nowadays is

a simple one is where is that excoriating self-analysis of like m&m and the beastie boys like you take yourself way too goddamn seriously and that's when it stops working yeah they don't have a chip on their shoulder yeah all right yeah and also no you go ahead no no no i was just gonna say i was gonna say real quick too i think i think no no no no no no no no no really no no but uh i also think too just real quick terrence i think it's i think that they also don't have a sense that part of that self-awareness also means a sense of humor you know what i mean like a wittiness to it and um nah man you can't try to do like i mean like yeah you could talk about hardship but you could talk about especially like yeah like rap music has always been like i guess sort of like um you know kind of rooted in like personal experience right like working

class i guess right but uh now it's either like a little bit too much of that where it seems like a little bit too much like like i mean macklemore and that uh that thrift shopping store that thrift like that thrift store song or something like that or it's just somebody like trying to do like the uh the mafioso type of luxury rap and it's like dude that that also doesn't work you know just be funny be real man you know what i want to see a white rapper that's rapping from the perspective of because like when i was growing up the accusation against the white rappers i knew was that they were i guess to put it in a term that would be pc today culturally appropriating the black experience but i want to see a white rapper that culturally appropriates an experience that is totally off the mark. Like a white rapper that's rapping from the perspective of a South Asian person.

So, yeah. I was going to say. You know what I mean? Like he's just rapping about the Pakistani Indian American experience. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. Or like someone. Yeah.

Like totally. But totally in a in a medium that was not started in that part of the world right and doing it totally unironically right where you have to question like yo did he like grow up there is he like an army brat like does he like you know what i'm saying like did he go to school there but nah man it's just like part of his bit nah you know what he needs to take it a step further man uh you know i know it's gonna be controversial but um you know you know that uh you know that book we were talking about terrence that you told us about with that guy who wrote uh the story of

uh nat turner yes because if he was gay man yeah just like yeah man just like you know just like do something like that man you know what i mean yeah just do something completely out of fucking left field where you're like rapping about like frederick douglas being like i don't know man like i don't know and you know i mean the libs are probably like it'll be like a kind of hamilton thing but it'd also be like you know witty and funny you know yeah it would it would be so sick if you had a white rapper that's gonna make like a like a a very woke album like you know what i'm saying i'm not talking like just in terms of like having the right politics or whatever but i mean like in terms of like he's just like yeah he's just talking about like the the conversations between frederick douglas and john brown how he feels like he's john

brown yeah yeah you know like i'm the 2023 john brown you know what i mean you know what that's that's such a good point because all right we've covered this before but like conservative rappers right yeah like they make their raps explicitly like okay they're on you know what i mean like they're they're all in like the the the culture war and all of like you know uh trump and stuff like that make him but like you'll have rappers like eminem i guess so you have like black rappers too that are socially conscious but no you're right tom somebody who's like a lib, like a straight lib. Eminem, surprisingly, is a huge lib.

He is a huge lib. Which is funny. That's true. It's like Eminem is probably watching MSNBC around the clock. And probably CNN until a few days ago with the Trump thing. That's when he said no more. I'm honestly just kind of sad that there's no like post-modern there's no attempts at like a post-modern style and rap like perhaps one of the only attempts at it was that

naz song where he raps from the point of view of a gun which is one of the stupidest songs i've ever heard yeah it doesn't work but i applaud the effort i applaud the effort yeah yeah yeah i mean a little bit dark but you just reminded me of um uh that biggie song where he's like rapping about suicide you know what i mean and it's like it's a narrative you know what i mean it doesn't ready to die yeah man well biggie biggie's i got storyteller there's not a lot of great storytellers left around anymore like clever yeah and i mean and i like it all i'm not like saying oh man rap is mumble rap sucks man no i'm not like a you know uh you know a rap is dead kind of person because i hate when people

yeah i i'm not like a subliminal swimming pool uh guy you know what i mean like uh but like um yeah it would be it would be cool to have a little bit of that storytelling and they'll put back into it. You know, there's room for it all. That reminds me. So the MGK, that's right, right, MGK, right. And the Jack Harlow thing, like, before this gets too heated up, because we know this is only going to end in one way,

one of these fellows is is gonna wind up dead. And before... Like shot or like, you know... That would be so sick if like... If like Jack goes, listen, there's only one way one of us is leaving this battle and that's in a body. For real this time. Well, I'm just saying we need to stave off another Tupac Biggie-type disaster. Exactly.

We need to introduce the booby trap. It's like, you know, booby traps, guys. Booby trap each other. Before it gets out of hand, we just put these guns away. Practical prank each other, man. Like, you know, like, I don't know don't know jack harlow mgk when you're going out to get your morning paper or something like that you open your door and i don't know a bucket of like slime or goo falls on top of your head you know and jack harlow's across the street giggling

and laughing and driving away like you know that sounds that's that's how you have a beef when tensions get too heated you push the other guys with quicksand. Exactly. But not the kind that kills you, that, you know, you just kind of get like stuck at mid-waist and then somebody pulls you out.

Well, yeah. I mean, I think all quicksand would kill you at a certain point. But the thing is, is you want to provide someone with the means to escape. Exactly. Man, it must be so bad

to get stuck in quicksand. That's terrifying. That's the high end Of booby trap It was one of my It was one of my Biggest It's an ecological booby trap Yeah totally

It was one of my Biggest fears as a kid Truly It's cause like Truly Where I grew up There was a bunch of sand And I thought that

It could just be anywhere I was like You could just walk Like I didn't know That it was like Only in a specific Part of the world That it Anywhere there was wherever they filmed indiana joan yeah that should be a backyard

dude speaking of the machine gun kelly i smell weed i am weed thing did y'all see, there was an op-ed in the New York Times from Ross Douthat that was like, I was reading it before we got on. I saw it right before we got on. Legalizing marijuana is a big mistake. Oh boy. And it's about how the city smell like weed. Apparently they really do.

Everybody that I talk to from New York, I'm like, oh, New York smells like weed, and they're like, no, it really does, and I was like, oh. No, it really does smell like weed. I'm not gonna lie. When I was there a couple weeks ago, I didn't wanna entertain any of the right-wing reefer madness panic or anything like that.

Yeah. But it smelled like weed, man. It did. It was like walking into my godmother's house as a kid. I mean, even still now, because my godfather smokes a hell of a lot of weed. But yeah, you know, it was like New York is like a metropolis version of like a college dorm room, you know what I'm saying, with the Bob Marley flag on the wall and the shit, you know? I want like Tim Pool or one of those guys to come to East Kentucky

and they think it smells like weed everywhere, and it's like, no, dude, those are dead skunks. Like they're everywhere. Yeah, you don't know what weed smells like. I shouldn't. That was a bad joke. That was like a y'all star. That's not good.

Oh, shit. So, what's his... So, is his main complaint... Is Ross's main complaint that because New York smells like weed, that not even the complaints that people are making, like, like, oh, people aren't working and no one wants to work because everyone's high. But is he just worried about the smell? His main complaint is that if you oppose

legalizing marijuana, you're not cool. They've been boxed into being uncool. Who he boxed himself in. Nobody else boxed you in, dog. I know. That's what I'm saying. You did that to yourself. You did that to yourself. You did that to yourself.

You can just not write a fucking column on it. You can just not write a column on Express Your Views, or you could just be chilling and smoke some weed. So Big Ross has boxed New York City and painted him into a corner, huh? Well, y'all, we can read it if you want. It's not too long. He's hot boxed into a corner? Hot boxed into a corner huh well i y'all we can read it if you want it's uh it's not too long it's a hot box into a corner hot box to do a corner yeah um of all the ways to win a culture war the smoothest

is to just make the other side seem hopelessly uncool so it's been so it's been with the march of marijuana legalization there have been moral arguments about the excesses of the drug war medical arguments about the potential benefits of pot but the vibe of the whole debate is pitted the chill against the uptight, the cool against the square, the relaxed future against the principal skinners of the past. Can I just say, can I just say for just like a straight up analysis, like if you're worried about like people saying that you're lame and you're not cool, it's probably because you're not cool.

It's a value judgment that probably tracks. It's going to be keeping a buck with you, Ross. You haven't been cool for a while. Some tough medicine, I know. As support for legalization has climbed, commanding a two-thirds majority in recent polling, any contrary

argument has come to feel a bit futile and even modest cavils are couched in an apologetic and defensive style. Of course, I don't question the right to get high, but perhaps the pervasive smell of weed in our cities is a bit unfortunate. I'm not a narc or anything, but maybe New York City doesn't need

quite so many unlicensed pot dealers. All of this means... You're absolutely a narc. That's literally what being a narc is. That's all in italics. I don't really know what the point... All of this means that it will take a long time for conventional wisdom to acknowledge the truth that seems readily

apparent to squares like me. Marijuana legalization as we've done it so far has been a policy failure, a potential social disaster, a clear and evident mistake. A potential social disaster a clear and evident mistake a potential social disaster it's like okay go ahead sir that's so frustrating for him to say real quick because it's just like it's like so what is the alternative was the war on drugs which i mean is arguably still going on you know what i mean just because like weed is

legal in a lot of states but also it's just like i mean i don't know man it's just what do you so what's your alternative then you know i mean yeah sure in new york there are a lot of bodegas and stuff that are like unregulated that sell weed but i mean who's being i don't know like what who's being i would love i would love him to pull some studies right Instead of like these reefer madness 1950s fears you know what I'm saying One of the studies he's pulled Is from The Manhattan Institute

Do you know what that is The lame little dick Motherfucker institute okay The Gets no pussy institute I wonder what they have to say on the subject Of cool The Gets No Pussy Institute. That's it. I wonder what they have to say on the subject of cool. Oh, shit.

The best version of the Squares case is an essay by Charles Fane Lehman of the Manhattan Institute explaining his evolution from youthful libertarian to grown up prohibitionist. It will not convince readers who come in with stringently libertarian presuppositions who believe on high principle that consenting adults should be able to purchase, sell and enjoy almost any substance short of fentanyl. And that no second order social consequence can justify infringing on this right but layman explains in detail why the second order effects of marijuana legalization have mostly vindicated the pessimists and skeptics um okay just just quick here first on the criminal justice front the expectation that legalizing pot would help reduce america's prison population by clearing out non-violent offenders was always overdrawn since marijuana convictions made up a small share of the incarceration rate even at its height uh

i it's funny because like as someone who both supports decriminalization and legalization and supports abolition that never even occurred to me like Like, maybe I'm dumb, but, like, it never even, like, I never was that stupid enough to think that, like, yeah, you just decriminalize this one drug. Like, you're going to have to decriminalize all the drugs. Exactly. Because, I mean, like, there are also, I'm assuming, people are, like, maybe, like, marijuana. Like, there's a lot of other shit that's probably involved. You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of other shit you'd have to tackle

as well you know you're not just gonna like empty the jails because like now everyone who's like smoked a joint and got arrested for it is free you know what i'm saying yeah and also like they use the statistic in this that like only 12 of people in the carceral system are drug offenders and it's like i don't even know how you define that people say that all the time as a kind of gotcha to be like well we do need prisons but it's like okay i don't know how you define that are you defining that as a possession charge because like there's a lot of other crimes quote unquote that are sort of attendant and adjacent to drug use. And also, just being in the world where you're acquiring drugs

brings you into an interfacing with other crimes. And so it's like the entire criminalized sphere of drug use is what's driving a lot of those incarceration rates. Even if it's like fucking domestic violence and murder and stuff you know what i'm saying like that's yeah that it is adjacent to substance use and stuff and getting those substances i don't know does that make sense no that makes perfect sense too and it's also just like i mean i mean i don't know like i know that um when biden i mean not that i'm playing guess i'm playing devil's advocate or i i mean like let me just let me just be a devil real quick let me be a demon no but i mean like

okay like even when biden like even when biden which i guess like i was supportive supportive of when biden i guess um um what did he do i guess he tried to encourage states to like you know release people from prison that had like low level drug offenses something like that yeah yeah but like yo but like even us like on the left like you know and we we support like legalization of prohibition um we understand too that that doesn't mean that everybody's getting out of jail because there were people who weren't american citizens right that were not affected by that benefited from that you know so i'm just saying like i'm saying what your terms to terms there are a lot of other things that are like attenuant to that where it's like yeah i don't think anyone who's like an advocate of legalization argues for this one-size-fits-all they understand

that it's this like approach that needs to be you says, like, as he's arguing here, he says, Lehman argues that there is no good evidence that legalization reduces racially discriminatory patterns of policing and arrest. And it's like i mean that may be true it probably is true but that's no reason to like just cordon off another sphere of like substance possession as criminalized behavior i mean it doesn't make any sense i don't know it doesn't yeah like also it's too it's like i don't know man you know he's Yeah, like, also, too, it's like, I don't know, man. He's, like, saying stuff like this. It's also, like, again, like, what is the alternative?

Are we saying we shouldn't do anything, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, we shouldn't do anything then because it wouldn't, like, not everybody would get out of jail. It wouldn't help everyone, so we might as well not do it, you know? Right, right. I don't know.

Yeah, classic case of letting perfect be the enemy of good. Is that what that's called? That's a classic case. That's exactly it. I'm so brain addled that I have to say my idioms very slowly to make sure I get them right. It's like an 85-year-old backing out of the driveway. It's like, I can't.

You're looking barely over your shoulder. Do I got it? Do I got it? Do I got it? Yeah. Then he talks about how there might be links between schizophrenia and pot use. Oh, my God, man. We're just going to talk about scrommeting next. Dude, bro.

Bro, this shit is... The shit that makes me the most upset about it is not even even like when they talk about like criminal justice or whatever it's like when they talk about like physical effects of weed and it's like dude i mean sure i'm sure there's like a percentage very small percentage of the population who i don't know man like i'm not not just get panic attacks i'm sure there's more than a small percentage but people who really have like freak episodes with weed right yeah or get poised whatever man but like bro people been smoking weed for how goddamn long man i mean like there's like like i said on twitter like there's cbd for fucking dogs i know that's not the psychoactive but i mean you have this thing has become such

an industry you know what i mean where you have a whole entire genre of fucking subgenre of comedy films a stoner film you're not scaring anyone by telling them that weed is gonna make them like projectile vomit for eight hours and scream we're past that as a side yeah dude that was that's reefer madness literally you're not bringing that shit back dude come on man uh-huh we are weed we are america we are weed. Also, dude, also, like I've been reading that, I mentioned it on an earlier episode, I've been reading that Sidney Mintz book,

it's called Sweetness and Power, it's about sugar and the sugar industry, like the early sugar industry. And it's fucking crazy it's like the point that he's made that he's trying to make is that like you had a colonial plantation system in the caribbean for sugar and there's been a lot of debates on you know even marx it was kind of like not settled, like where to fit slavery into the the process of colonial slavery and exploitation in the Caribbean and the southern United States. And the reason why is because those workers in Europe, those proletarians, needed the substances produced in those colonies. Sugar, tobacco tobacco and caffeine like those three were

integral to like the 16 to 20 hour fucking days they were working in like textile mills and shit like it was a integral part of the process of early proletarianized labor. If you add Benzedrine in there, you basically got the trucker's necessities too. Yeah, weed, whites, and wine. Doesn't Gary Stewart have, who wrote that original? No dude, it's one of my favorite bands, Little Feet, Willin'. Yeah, that's right. But yo, Terrence, this is where I guess you had

some of the strongest abolitionists were in Europe, in England, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and the point, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that from day one, the inputs into the system in capitalism has always been substances, high substance use. I mean, that's part, I mean, I don't know.

I don't know if you get rid of capitalism, you have a different mode of production, people are happier, more content. Maybe they wouldn't use as many substances. I have no fucking idea. Bro, I'm smoking more weed after the revolution, dog. Well, that's what I'm saying. You never know.

It's not like a, it's not, who knows? Who the fuck knows? Who the fuck knows why people use? You're just gonna put it never know it's not like a it's not who knows who the fuck knows who the fuck knows why people use you're just gonna put it down after it's like man you know what i was this was a coping mechanism but now yo it's now i'm done with it it's the same thing when people say shit like oh man like you know uh uh i wouldn't have any i mean nobody ever really says this right but this idea i guess or sort of like this overarching suspicion, right, that people will be, like, people, I think people will be happier, right, with capitalism, like, in some ways. But, I mean, like, I'm an anxious, depressed motherfucker, man. I think that, sure, my external environment lends to that.

But that doesn't mean that in my ideal society that that would make, you know, you know what I'm saying? That that would make my mental illness, like, be alleviated so much so that you know what i mean it'd be like nah man probably uh there are other things involved in that you know yeah it's hard to say i mean right because there's no such thing as like a perfect even in a world that's like doesn't have all of these external pressures on you pressures to to be individually competitive with every other human being, pressures to have your identity conform to a certain set of dogmatic or patriarchal ideas and all this.

Even with those removed, you would still have problems. You would still have pain. You'd still have fear of death. You'd still have all these other things. I'd wake up and be terrified anyway, man. Be like, God damn. I could do anything i want to do

what the fuck do i do man but it does it does annoy me that's a real thing it doesn't know as a recovering addict who has spent time a lot around a lot of other addicts it doesn't it does annoy me though when the immediate first thing is just like get yourself right brother like let's get like you know what i'm saying it's like you're right you're right like we all have to like be uh do what's best for us and like stop harming ourselves and everything else but it's like there is a social explanation here too like that's should not be overlooked like exactly i don't know exactly yeah you can't just tell personal account yeah yeah go ahead go go go ahead no no no no no you well i mean you just said personal accountability like but they make it sound like oh just personal accountability like everything is like

response responsabilization i guess is the word right that you are responsible right and it's like i mean mark fisher talks about this a lot uh people probably know this but it's just like yeah man that's uh i'm not especially as a as a young black man i'm not inclined to believe that you know in the united states of amer Yeah. Well, that's also why the pandemic response was such dog shit, too, because it so quickly went to, it's incumbent on us to stay indoors and to mask and do these things. It boiled down to personal responsibility rather than, like, some sort of cogent, coherent,

we're just going to, you know, tackle this thing as a cohesive unit. They said that rhetorically, but what it boiled down to is oh well you got some personal responsibility and if you if you don't do that then that's all it's on that's you know we're not going to get out of this you know i just want to look quick transfer going i'm going to bring in like just a quick uh like something i was just thinking about where you just talking tom like um about this this sort of personal responsibility right um but this is like matched with like not just the pandemic right but we've seen this response we talked about a little bit right last week i think um with the gun violence right um the fbi video right where

the fbi is basically just you know um well you're on your own kids but at the same time like in parallel they want to like people want to like at least like well i don't know about like i guess well, you're on your own, kids. But at the same time, like, in parallel, they want to, like, people want to, like, at least, like, well, I don't know about, like, I guess, like, I don't know, I guess legally, right? But at least, like, rhetorically, right? And, like, in think pieces like this, people want to restrict people's, like, freedom to, like, raw dog reality,

you know what I mean? It's like this weird, it's like this weird, like, positive and negative freedom, you know what I'm saying? This dynamic of it that I just, I don't know. It's bleak, it's incredibly ble weird, it's like this weird, like positive and negative freedom. You know what I'm saying? This dynamic of it that I just, I don't know. Uh, it's, it's,

it's bleak. It's incredibly bleak. Well, yeah, it's, well say, say more about that. Like,

what do you mean? Like, uh, I mean like, I guess like, it's like you, you have, you know,

you have to be, you have to, you have to, uh, be responsible, right? About making sure that you don't fucking die at a mall or some shit like that. Yeah.

Because like this government refuses. I mean, I'm sure there's something, you know what a mall or some shit like that. Yeah. Because, like, this government refuses. I mean, I'm sure there's something. You know what I mean? There's something that can be done about that. Like that shoot, like that, like, how to survive a mass shooting video. Yes, how to survive a mass shooting, right? But at the same time, they're telling you that you can't smoke weed. You know what I mean?

You got guys like this that are writing about, like, well, actually, we should have more restrictions on people being able to, like, sort of, like, dull the painful daily existence of fucking living in this dying empire you know what i mean let me ask y'all a question this is kind of well i'll stick a pin in this because this is probably going to take the conversation a different direction but it's tangentially related but yeah in that same vein there was a fucking video video that was kind of making their rounds on Twitter just yesterday. I don't know if you guys saw it. It was a dash cam video from a Tesla in this fucking idiot account. I hate it so fucking much.

Whole Mars Catalog. Oh, my fucking God, yo. That guy is like my mortal nemesis on twitter bro he's the exact opposite he's like the fascist futurist motherfucker yo i hate that motherfucker so much the caption was one of the most bullish exciting things i've seen on tesla full driving beta 11.4.1 it detected the pedestrian but rather than slamming on the brakes it just proceeded through like a human would knowing would knowing there was enough time to do so. It's like whether it's school shootings or Teslas, it is entirely incumbent on you to get yourself.

To get yourself right, brother. Get your mind right, brother. It's like two things are happening. Two things are happening two things are happening it's like there's a push there's a push on the right and even even in some ways on the left and i mean i hate to say that i don't mean it in the way that people think but like there is a push on like a broad societal push to make sure that things don't de-escal, but that they rather in fact escalate. There's that happening.

And then on the same sort of like wavelength, but on a parallel path, you've got the transformation of all these various problems of society into violent ones that are your problem. It's not, it's not, it's no longer is it someone else's problem that they're freaking the fuck out. Now it's not it's not yeah it's it's it's it's no longer is it uh someone else's problem that they're freaking the fuck out now it's my problem now i'm the one that like i have to fucking find

out a way to like find the nearest exit when someone decides to like shoot it up or i have to make sure that i'm not i don't happen to be walking in the uh crosswalk when a tesla self driving 11.3574 whatever the fuck drives through at 90 miles per hour and just turns me in a toothpaste but but also too i guess i guess a better example because do that here is i guess making like a cultural like rhetorical argument right um that i mean like i mean to be honest doesn't really seem to be translating at least like legally like i mean like weed like weed is becoming legal in states i mean he's like crying about nothing right but in a more serious note and restricting restricting people's like

i mean just like sense of self i mean the trans panic right so it's like you know what i mean the state in one way says well you're responsible for this right but we're not going to protect you right and you're actually willing to encourage and escalate as you were saying terrence this mass violence but you still have the freedom though to drive a tesla you know what i mean and put it on fucking uh on foot on self-drive mode and like you know turn a bunch of kids in a crosswalk into like you know fucking dust you know that's that's the the gun thing and the tesla thing are two parts of the exact same shit it's like you have the freedom man you you have freedom to do whatever the fuck you want which in even if that means killing all kinds of other people it's like that you don't have the

free but you don't have certain freedoms though because you have the freedom to be a part to be who you want to be right right it gets into certain you know what i mean so it's just like the same guy who's like yeah man i have the freedom to like more bunch of kids down like he gets mad about pronouns you know what i'm saying yes it's fucking insane yeah yeah it's exactly right it's total hypocrisy You have the freedom to kill people But you don't have the freedom to be who you want to be You fucking psycho

Well I think that's the thing I think that it's like They become sort of exhilarated off of that hypocrisy Like they love that Like it's empowering That is a kind of dizzying kind of power to have To be that incoherent That simultaneously incoherent And that side that simultaneously incoherent in

that powerful I mean that's what fashion is all these are symptoms of a collective powerlessness though and a lot of ways you know it's the way the same reason why you know I lost my job last week and my first instinct is to go get some man a rear naked choke. You know what I mean? It's like, ultimately, what the fuck am I going to do? You know what I mean? And so we start to flail and act out and try to, you know,

if we can have power over people's lives, be that shooting up a fucking mall or whatever the case may be, for that moment, it gives people inclined to that sense of authority and power or subjugation of somebody else. You know what I mean? And if you think I'm crazy, we've been doing that a lot. I mean, you know, slavery.

And that's not the only reason for that, but I think it's related to that. Yeah. And these things don't die down. I mean, they don't go away. It's the exact same reason why i was talking about like how in the early capitalist mode of production in early accumulation like primitive accumulation you had these vast amounts of substances put in like you

think that that's like in you think that's just coincidental that like you people talk about like the opioid crisis now they talk about like deaths of despair and stuff like you think it's just coincidental that like from day fucking one this thing has just been cram as much fucking shit down people's throats to get them to be as productive as possible productive as possible and if and once their bodies are just wasted and coffee yeah yeah and once their bodies are just wait i mean i know this kind of sounds like joean, like, wellness type shit. I mean, but it's, like, there is truth to it. I mean, there's – I don't know.

Does that – no, dude, I think there's absolute truth to it, man. Like, I mean, again, I don't know. Like, I feel like it's, like, to kind of, like, you know, make people productive and also kind of pacify people. Because I don't know, man. productive and also kind of pacify people because i don't know man like i like i really don't want to go back to work in the restaurant industry because i feel like it's conducive to like addictive habits and tendencies and it makes fucking sense because like it's a stressful fucking job for anyone who's ever worked in the kitchen you know exactly what i'm talking about and then after that after the shift everybody goes to the bar and everyone drinks everybody does their own drugs and it's kind of like but you got to show up the next fucking day and do

it over again it's like yeah man like what do you how do you think people are maintaining no one is raw dogging reality and you're trying to take that away from people while expanding the insane like few like fascist futuristic rights of other people especially when it comes to spheres of technology you know what i mean yeah like that fucking drives me insane dude yeah well on that note so there's something i wanted to read but i want to call a quick audible before i get to it because when i was in the gym i was reading an article about in vanity fair about biden running for president in 24 and um and the whole point of the article was like he's good it's chill everything's fine like he's not dying it one one paragraph did start off with an astonishing fact which i did not know which is that when biden was a kid there was still 48 states there weren't even 50 states yet wait what

when was he born again like 19 like 17 or some shit like that i think he's born on the eve of the russian revolution i think like the 1940 42 god damn bro did world war ii even end yet or it's just about to end god damn yo dude okay when i was in lexington this fast week i turned to tom and i said i want you to mark the day the time the place because i'm calling it right now i guarantee you that what's gonna happen because you have to think about funniest outcomes right you have to think about funniest outcomes biden will not win in 2024 and then go die in office. No, dude. I'm calling it right now. He is going to die like RPG style.

Like at the wrong place at the wrong time. Like maybe late September, six weeks before the election. They'll have to scramble. October surprise. The October surprise. That nigga die on Halloween, bro. have to scramble surprise the october surprise yeah i'm not hollywood bro they'll have to scramble to like field a new candidate dude i'm telling you it's got all it's set up right now for the perfect it's written in the stars if god if god has a sense of humor bro if the ultimate

abstract has any sense of humor levity dog please please yo please god i'm just so there could be some shit that would precipitate like a crisis like you know what i'm saying like people would be freaking out yo i'm just i'm just so fucking sick of the fucking hagiography dude i'm so sick of it it's just like the like the stuff that's going on at the border and everything it's just like dude fuck this guy going on at the border and everything. It's just like, dude, fuck this guy. Like, I'm so fucking sick of it. Oh, my God. It's sucking.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know too much about this. We don't have to get into it because I know you want to get to something, Terrence. But, I mean, it's just like, you know, for every one thing that liberals love to bring up, you know, he's the pro-labor. He's the most pro-labor progressive, pro-labor president in 40 years or or 50 60 years or whatever and it's like no that's not right um you know he's a uh you know climate change president it's like no you open the backup drilling you know what i mean oh like i heard some shit about work requirements for um now for some sort of like what was that did y'all hear about that was it for medicaid and stuff yeah yeah something like that it's just

like as like i guess like a negotiating tactic. It's like, dude, I don't know, man. Yeah. Well, even back when he was running with Obama, all you ever heard about this guy was, oh, he's a foreign policy genius. It's like, where's the evidence for that? Wasn't he one of the architects of the Iraq War? Yeah, that's pretty fucking genius shit, man.

Yeah. of the architects of the Iraq war? Yeah, that's pretty fucking genius shit, man. Yeah. So, anyways, there's that, but there's this quick article I wanted to read. This is in the Rolling Stone.

Texas A&M professor flunks all his students after chat GPT falsely claims it wrote their papers. Students who have already graduated were denied their plumas because of an instructor who correctly used AI software to detect cheating. Okay, so like I saw this headline and I was like, yo, that's fucked up. That's some fucked up shit. But then I was like reading through this and then I was like, what the fuck?

Why was this professor assigning homework in the first goddamn place? You'll see what I mean. Based off of the... By the way, homework... Well, anyway, stick a pin in that. Stick a pin in that. That was a racket. What a racket, huh?

Yeah. Such a racket, man. A number of seniors... You mean I gotta do it when I go home? Nigga, why can't I do it when I'm in school? Nah, here's my effect. You're talking about homework. The eight-hour workday is applies to

school too dude that was a hard-fought victory dude I was reading the other day about the history of homework I was like what the fuck is his how old is it like what where did it come from early people like early like people in the early 1900s when public education was just starting to become like very widely widespread and everything they made the exact same argument they were like homework is immoral because like the eight hour work day should also apply to the school day so who invented homework the cia or some shit dude check this shit out homework only really became widespread as a result of and because of the Cold War. Because people...

Yo, the CIA again? They thought we were falling behind the Soviet Union and that's why homework became widespread in the 50s and 60s and shit. It was an anti-communist thing. Motherfuckers. Yo, I swear to God, bro. Everything goes back to two fears perennial

fears in this country fear of black people and fear of communism speaking of which speaking of the fear of black people piece what do you think about the john moran thing y'all seen this yeah i've seen it yeah so you know he was suspended eight games earlier this year for having a gun on ig live on ig live yeah i heard about that and then him and his buddy were turning up in the jeep and he brandished it for like half a second his buddy like oh shit put down the camera real quick and now everybody's like the fucking commissioner of the nba is on the draft uh lottery last night talking about like looking like an angry father that just you know and his his boys went out there and you know made a mockery of him again or whatever bro bro

you know what fuck that shit because okay maybe this isn't one-to-one i don't know if this is an example but if or maybe we could look it up and find out this example like what if there's some fucking white quarterback or some shit like that who's like fucking like hawking like i don't know what i'm saying like you know what i mean like fucking like well i guess these guys aren't going out there like hawking shit for like um with uh smith smith and wesson or anything like that you know what i mean but it's like but there is like stephen jackson the mayor of port arthur texas said former small forward nba small forward set made a good point he put these pictures of chris Kamen, a former NBA player that had all of his assault rifles and shit up. It's like we criminalize black folks with guns differently than white folks with guns.

Going back to the Panthers and Reagan. Exactly. Reagan was pro-gun control until Bobby Sillman boys showed up with, you know. Exactly. To the San Francisco City Hall. They were like, okay, nah. They can't do this. Before anybody yells at me, I'm not saying John Morant's Bobby Seale,

but, you know, I mean, like, you know, it is a hypocrisy. Well, and also, where do you draw the fucking line? Like, if they're an active player, I mean, how many former NFL players, former fucking baseball players i mean like they all go on to have the most insane fucking uh opinions like and just genocidal beliefs like who's the crazy who's the mlb pitcher that's like now one of the most kurt schilling and stuff you know what i'm saying like where do you draw the fuck it doesn't does it matter whether they're still playing or not doesn't it all reflect back on the fucking league one way

the other like also also too i feel like this is like this is a similar to homework in a way because you after off the field you were meant to like you know what i'm saying you were meant to like um keep up this like upstanding yeah like you know what i mean like it's like nah man like i'm done playing i want to go wild out and maybe like you know get lit and flash a little gun and get you know what i'm saying like whatever man this was a stupid sure but like should he be like punished for it like i don't fucking think so i don't it's a bizarre thing it's like okay he has a gun like what the fuck it's like i can step outside i mean granted i live in a smaller town where there's not as many cops but if you live in a big city step outside you see fucking people walking around with guns all the fucking

time they're called police officers you're just gonna pretend that guns aren't in society people that get like the carry permits right they want to be like cowboys and stuff like i mean like you can't grandstand about guns in this fucking country yeah yeah you just can't you know what i mean it's like if joel morant played in houston or san antonio what would that be like you got the goddamn governor said you need to go buy as many guns as you can to you know uh you know be be prepared to kill anybody that you meet at any point all this bullshit they say all the time also too man it got me thinking about uh this like kind of like double standard like someone like philando castile right who like had a gun

like you know licensed gun on him and he's still fucking shot and killed by the cops you know he told the cop that you know his gun was his gun and he had a license for it he still got fucking killed so it's like you know like of course yeah man like just this sort of like well who who who is seen as dangerous and more deadly you know what i mean yeah yeah absolutely um it's fucking bullshit one thousand percent um well okay so so this this story okay uh texas a&m commerce it's funny. I'm from Texas. I've never even heard of Texas A&M Commerce. What is... Is that like a Houston suburb or something? It's one of those Texas towns that's named like...

Just because it's like hyper-literal, what they used to do there. Commerce. Gold. Well, it's like White Settlement, Texas. Right. White Settlement. Yeah.

Not much for nuance in Texas. Very clear about what went on there. Yeah, Commerce is in like Northeast Texas. A number of seniors at Texas A&M University Commerce who already walked the stage at graduation this year have been temporarily denied their diplomas after a professor ineptly used AI software to assess their final assignments.

The partner of a student in his class, known as DeerKick on Reddit, claims the Rolling Stone. Okay, so like I said in the intro to this, I was like, okay, that's fucked up. But then I saw what the assignment actually was, and I was like, why the fuck are you using chat GBT on this at all? Why are you even assigning homework on this at all

dr jared mum a campus rodeo instructor who also teaches agricultural classes what he's a rodeo instructor at the college campus or like just it is part-time because i mean the way they phrase that is like they have rodeo courses at the school i think they probably do dude texas is crazy dog let me tell you they probably do literally have rodeo class i mean i. I think they probably do, dude. Texas is crazy, dog. Let me tell you, they probably do literally have rodeo classes. I'm not hating, though. I don't get some of that hate shit. They probably have like a NCAA sanctioned sport that's like

beef grading. Like on King of the Hill and Bobby joins the beef grading team. Also teaches agricultural classes. Sent an email on Monday to a group of students informing them that he had submitted grades for their last three assignments of the semester. Everyone would be receiving an X in the course,

mom explained, because he had used ChatGPT, the open AI chat box, actually called Chat. Oh, he said ChatGTP. He said ChatGTP. ChatMGK. So wait, so wait, he's telling his telling his students like he's using this shit he doesn't even know what the name of it is yeah he doesn't know the name of this to test whether they'd use the software to write the papers and the bot claimed to have authored every single one i copy and paste your responses in chat gtp and it will tell me if the program generated the content he wrote, saying he attested every paper twice.

Can I ask a quick question, Terrence? Sorry, can I ask a quick question, too? Maybe I didn't hear, but is this guy, like, at all somebody who is, like, a technologically-minded person? Is this just somebody who is, like, looking at his Facebook feed and saw chat GPT and was like, well, I got to try that out. Yeah. You know what I mean? like looking at his facebook feed and saw chat gpt i was like well i gotta try that out yeah i mean like because those people i mean the people that are in the tech sphere tech industry are especially the ones that are talking about ai like this is winter mute from neuromancer and you would think that they would know better but especially because of that sort of propaganda and panic you would think that people who are like laymen like myself too you know what i mean but those people like are especially conducive to believing this shit you know what i mean yeah

i think that that is entirely possible uh it's entirely possible he just heard about this at the dairy queen at seven like seven in the morning on his way into work and he was like man i gotta try that i gotta try that i'm like like the guy the guy the dairy queen was trying to tell him that actually it's just a bunch of bullshit, but he was only listening halfway. It was like, I gotta try that shit out.

The guy was like, no, no, no, you don't understand that. Oh my God. Oh my God. Are you serious? I gotta go try this on my rodeo students.

There's just one problem. Jet GPT doesn't work that way. The bot isn't made to detect material composed by AI or even material produced by itself and is known to sometimes emit damaging misinformation. With very little prodding, Chat GPT will even claim to have written passages

from famous novels such as Crime and Punishment. Blah, blah, blah. But all that would apparently be news to Mum, who appeared so out of his depth as to incorrectly name the software he was misusing. Students claimed they supplied him with proof they hadn't used ChatGPT,

exonerating timestamps on the Google Docs they used to complete the homework, but that he initially ignored this, commenting, in the school's grading software system, I don't grade AI bullshit. I don't grade AI bullshit. I don't grade AI bullshit. I love that.

In an amusing wrinkle, Mum's claims appear to be undercut by a simple experiment using chat GPT. On Tuesday, Redditor DeliciousVillage112 found an abstract of Mum's doctoral dissertation on pig farming and submitted a section of that paper to the bot asking if it might have written the paragraph. Yes, the passage you shared could indeed have been written by ChatGPT.

I guess what I want to know is why the fuck... That guy, that Redditor is flirting with disaster there. If that guy gets his hands on him, he's going to stomp a mud hole in his ass. Yeah. That's the thing. I want to know why do you need to be assigning homework. I already disagree with homework.

Even in the harder sciences like math and fucking English and shit. But rodeo? You don't need to. What do you? You don't need to sign homework in rodeo. That's every day. Rodeo begins, let me tell you as someone raised by someone who used to do rodeo,

brother, rodeo begins the moment you walk out those doors every morning, and it ends the moment you walk back in.'s right that's right rodeo is live rodeo is life the rest the rest is just waiting i'm gonna put that on shirt oh man but let basically the overall takeaway here though though, homework is anti-communism. It's anti-communism, bro. Homework is not only bullshit, but homework, when you assign homework, you don't really want to check that shit. You don't want to give yourself work.

You don't want to give yourself homework. So what ends up happening is that you end up resorting to shit like Chad GPT and looking like a fucking fool. That's exactly right. God, man. Embarrassing. Automation, I hate to say this, because automation's good in a lot of ways. There's a lot of things that's kind of good and nice about it or whatever.

But man, it's going to just produce a lot of bullshit in the future just on all levels you know yeah we need to we need to go a little bit back to analog but we need to also kill homework and stuff that's the ideal society we need to be you know lazy but just lazy enough but just you know just just pay attention to detail where it matters yeah yeah i mean also too man um i i don't know i think i don't really know what even ai is like whether it's actual machine learning i mean i read this article that talks about uh like a lot of that work is um is people are like the ones that are i guess um identifying and sorting all this information you know and databases that is then used by like these ai platforms or whatever but um i don't know man

i think like it's just funny that these guys who well now i guess not this teacher this rodeo guy right but um you know you see the shit on twitter all the time where these guys are like i asked chat gpt if it was um a computer and if wanted to escape, you know, its silicon body, you know. And it's like, well, of course, like the information that you're feeding it and what it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like this aggregation of information it's getting from, of course, it can respond to you, right? In a way that makes you think it's sentient. But I guess what I'm saying is just like it's especially bleak that like it's not like sentience, right? Or some Terminator style, you know, like sentience, right. Or some Terminator style,

you know, like, um, robot apocalypse, but just a bunch of dumb asses, you know, that like also not even dumb asses, but also like people that know how to market this shit, you know, they know how like that thin line between like, kind of like marketing fears and also wonder, but I don't know, man, I just feel like none of that shit's actually going to work the way they envisioned it because, uh, I don't know know i i like maybe this is dumb to say but i feel like like i don't know maybe the atomic age was i feel like kind of the last time where like you know that that whole era i mean dole said the cold war i guess in space race but like where people actually envision technology improving their lives you know and now it's kind of like hard to do that they have to sell it to you that this is gonna improve your life but we all know that it's either gonna kill you or they're just trying to

get you to buy more shit you know what i mean and that kind of what feels like ai is you know it's never going to be used for any of the wondrous things that like we want it to be but you know some of the most mundane and horrific things you know mundane but horrific as well you know i don't know if any of that makes sense but totally we live in a midstopia is what i'm saying we live in a mids dystopia. A midstopia. I like that. That is true. Well said. Well said.

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We're about to be like, yo, I'm going to pull on the same thing my pastor used to pull on me with you boys. I was like, please don't. You got a huddle to have like a one-on-one, man? Perhaps that was a bad way to word that. I just wanted to say, we have good content at Patreon. And the thing is, it's genuinely good. And when people miss out on that, it makes me genuinely mad. Makes me genuinely sad.

Makes me sad. And when I get sad, I want to go do stand-up comedy. Because that's what this article in the New York Times says I should go do. A new generation of stand-ups is mining the heartbreaking loss of a loved one for ambitious shows how did we get here oh comedy is dead now bro yo yo what date did this come out today all right yo just just put a tombstone and just write on comedy stand-up dead did not what's her face hannah gills the gads the first sentence of this is denial anger bargaining depression stand-up comedy?

Are these the five new stages of grief? Jesus fucking Christ, man. Wow, I buried the lead there. You'll get none of that over at the Patreon. I don't think. I don't think there's any cynical deployments of personal trauma and grief. Surely we would never do that. We would never cynically deploy our own grief and trauma to make a funny joke.

Listen, I could have, but I've refrained from it, so. Plenty of tobs. I'm gonna tell you something, I'm metaphorically covered in boils and cursing the living God every day or three, or at least thinking about it. But no, I don't. I stay in the pocket, guys.

And I do it for you. Because I don't want you to be sad like me. Oh, man. This sucks so bad. Michael Cruz Kane warns audiences at his show about the death of his son that they might cry, adding, if you don't, that's rude. Oh, man. Yo, these niggas just don't, that's rude. Oh, man. Yo, these niggas just need to go back

to doing slam poetry, man. Just go back to doing Spoke A Word. You're right, Aaron. Dude, you're so right. It is just basically the combination of comedy with slam poetry. It's like the slam poetification of comedy. It's like, you can talk about those things, sure,

whatever the fuck but like i don't know i don't i would open up all the cat a words but uh you know i think uh i think people are trying to channel what david foster wallace used to talk about the new sincerity you know yeah and um you know i get that and this confessionalism i get that but also sometimes you just keep that shit to yourself dog you know what know what I mean? Or maybe find a different medium. Yo, you could be like Usher and make a whole album about it, you know? I don't want to be at a show where I'm supposed to be laughing and you making me cry, motherfucker.

What it is. That's Hannah Gadsby. What does she say? Terrence, you do a good her. I hate colonialism. God, it just sounds like just grating. It's the worst accent ever. I'm sorry to anybody out there.

What it is is it's like the TED Talk shit. It's the Moth Radio Hour shit. It's like storytelling, which I don't oppose on the face of it, but just don't call it comedy. Yeah, it's just not. I don't know. not it's weird yeah yeah that's so true man because like the moth story stuff yo that shit is fine dude i've listened to those before yeah i mean like yeah you know i mean music sure anything but um that's not it's not stand-up comedy man that's a that's stand-up that's stand-up bitch made crying that's what that is stand-up whining stand-up comedy is when you point out a man in the audience.

You said, my man knows what I'm talking about. He knows what I'm talking about. And the guy's like, yeah, I know. I know what you're talking about. That's what stand-up comedy is. He lets you make jokes about him to a point. I'd love to do it. I just want to do a whole stand up set like that

My man knows what I'm talking about Look at him Do it as Hannah gets He knows what I'm talking about I for one love the Australian accent I don't have to ask you to repent I have to recuse myself from that. I have.

Repent. You know. Look at him. He's in the audience. He likes sex. He knows what I'm talking about. He knows what I'm talking about. Sex.

Grief. My son died My son I can't I'm fucking losing My son My son died See that would make me laugh though

You see I feel like I would laugh Inappropriately You know what I mean But that's I don't understand Like if someone comes up to me In an Australian accent

And starts telling me About their son Getting run over by a semi truck I'm probably gonna laugh Y'all probably gonna chuckle bro Let me chuckle I'm like yo to laugh. Y'all are probably going to chuckle, bro. Let me chuckle. He was walking across the street,

and he didn't see the truck coming, and he ran him right over. He was right in front of me. What do you make of that? The truck was transporting a whole bunch of roos and dingoes. A whole bunch of crocodiles. The back of the truck had a bunch of roos and dingoes. Oh, a bunch of crocodiles. Oh, my God. The back of the truck had a bunch of roos and dingoes. They all looked at me

as they went past and I met eyes with each of them in my awesome body with things dragged under the trucks. My man knows

what I'm talking about. My man right there in the front of the audience who knows what I'm talking about. We're going to get angry letters from Sam Wallman, Joanna Nielsen, some of our friends from down under. Oh my god, yo.

Aaron's going to get some hate mail from some angry Bushmen. No, that's not me. We had Hannah Gadsby call in. It was not me. Oh, that was her. That was her. That that was her that was her that wasn't there wasn't me oh my god called in and told the sad story and you all laughed at it i i i think that i hated i hated to i told you i would i guess that's the point that's the thing

i would i would not know how to behave in those venues because that would be like am i supposed to laugh right now like she's like telling something crazy like the killer walks into the house and put a gun to my dead head and blow his head off and I'd be like ha ha ha oh wait I'm not

supposed to laugh at that sorry that's when you look around at everybody else slowly to see everybody else's reaction you just mime it like okay that guy's smiling but she's what you that's what you look around everybody else slowly to see everybody else's reaction you just mom it like okay that guy's smiling but she's crying you know just put both them together you know it's the spectrum see jordan peters i want to see jordan peterson at a hannah gatsby show because he loves that saturn sentimental bullshit like what that's the thing that can bring them together i think that's true though that's the only combination it's going to unite both sides that's true that's true saccharine sentimentalism and romanticism almost yeah i saw my family lined up and they were all shocked by the political partisans and and jordan

peterson's gonna be in the front row like oh bucko this is this is crazy stuff. All you gotta do, Peter, is just do Kermit the Frog. Kermit, you're wrong. This is some crazy stuff. And it's sad. It's the spectrum, the human spectrum of human emotion. And then Hannah Gadsby's gonna point at him and go, my man knows what I'm talking about.

He's like, you're right, I do. Listen, will you please do Bob Dylan as that kind of comedian? And then we'll close. As what? As what now? As a stand-up comedian. My man knows what I'm talking about.

A stand-up comedian. My man knows what I'm talking about. A stand-up comedian telling a bad story trying to do crowd work? Yeah, yeah. Which makes no sense because Bob Dylan's the best American storyteller. Right, right. My man knows what I'm talking about. I mean, he's probably done that.

That was Australian Bob Dylan doing Groundhog. I can't pivot out of it fast enough. I can't. Oh, man. Bob Dylan played one of those, one of those Australian, what do they call them?

Those Australian flutes. It sounds to me like Aaron needs some sensitivity training. Yeah. Australia edition. I do, man. I probably do. I need to do the Ludovico technique from Clockwork Orange, but instead it's

Australian voices. It's just coming from speakers. Like 25 decibels or some shit like that. Paper Pig? Do you like paper pig oh there's an article dude i'm not i'm just dragging this out at this point i'm really sorry but there was an article in guardian why are so many young americans adopting fake british accents did y'all see that i didn't say that that. I saw it, but I didn't read it, though. I saw that Riley from Trash Future said that the person that wrote it got caught doing a fake British accent.

But I don't know if he was joking or not. Hmm. But, uh, do you want to read it? That is, like, one of the funniest quotes in there, man, that I read. Kyra Green lives with anxiety when she misplaced her boarding pass at the airport gate. I was throwing shit all over the place.

Let's see here. You're right. One of the quotes was hilarious, Aaron. Oh, is this what she said in it? Yeah. It's affecting me mental health, ain't it? My boss was like, why you say it like that call them jobs with oh that's not what more droves worth

oh my god yo that's bad that's so fucking funny though man well because like what what is it what is it supposed i mean it's not like when i read it now but like what is it supposed to, I mean, it's not like we're going to read it now, but, like, what is their deal with that? What is it supposed to evoke? I think that one person talked about a working class or some shit like that. They tried to use class, like a cockney, like they get more cockney when things get rougher. Will you shortly change how you say things with a little accent? It gives you space for a more stressful thing. It's the Ted Lso-fication of everything.

It's like everything is stressful and needs to be run away from. Dude, I'm living my life differently starting now. I'm no longer running from stress. I'm going full bore into that motherfucker. With an Australian accent, though. He knows what I'm going full bore into that motherfucker with an Australian accent. He knows what I'm talking about. My man knows what I'm talking about.

My man knows. He knows what we're talking about. Oh, shit, man. All right. All right. All right, lads. Let's call it Alright You can find us on Patreon innit

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