Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 295: A Reprobate Mind

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

This week we discuss the occluded existence of the most perfect boring boy in the world, the orca rebellion, and two crypto geniuses who are just live-laugh-loving their way through life Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

I turned on a movie the other night, and the first thing that comes up is... I don't know. I don't remember if it used to be like this when we were kids, but the thing that came up was, piracy is not a victimless crime. Digital theft harms the economy. Were they trying to guilt trip us like that when we were kids?

Did you see a warning or did you see like the actual little skit they used to put in front of them no it was um it was the warning it was an old movie too it was for it was the the killers with burt lancaster from what like what what were you watching it on like amazon prime huh i think if i remember correctly but but i mean i guess the point is it's like okay a i don't really see how pirating a movie from 70 years ago is really gonna harm the economy that bad yeah it's like listen um i don't know if you guys know this or not but uh um you're harming the burt lancaster estate every time you watch the kentuckian unauthorized right it's like movie it came out 1955 i think everybody's been compensated for

yeah yeah well and also though even if it just came out in 1955, I think everybody's been compensated for. Yeah, yeah. Well, and also though, even if it just came out yesterday, is piracy really like... I saw an article going around that Beyonce may have single-handedly caused Sweden's inflation. What'd she do? She's just that...

She empowered all the women there to... Drove up the price of everything, yeah. Drove up the price of everything. No, it was like her tour was so popular that people streamed it and flooded into Sweden to watch it or something. Huh. I don't know.

I don't understand economics. I don't know how that works. One woman shouldn't have all that power. Yeah. I mean, if that's true would the counterfactual be true like the most unpopular person in the world would cause deflation us who's who's the most yeah who's the most unpopular person in the world it's like well you have to assume it's it's bad as they say it's probably hitler uh-huh just because it's we just it's just overused but when your name has become

shorthand for every bad thing that can possibly happen on top of your many crimes that's pretty bad it begs the question though is unpopular defined as unliked or obscure that's true he's notorious he is well known yeah so i would put him in the notorious category right because that notorious kind of has like a pejorative connotation like you're famous for like a nefarious reason yeah yeah. But unpopular just means you just ain't got the sauce. That's right. I think what it... So if, like I said, if this is true,

the counterfactual would be we find the most obscure man in America known by no one. No one knows him. Who would that be? I feel like everybody... You know, if it's the P.T. Barnum maxim, everybody gets their 15 minutes of fame, who is the lone exception to that?

Probably like a hermit living in an old coal mine in like Perry County, Kentucky. But by virtue of his unorthodox lifestyle, he would be noted if people knew it. People would know? So it has to be somebody that's hiding in plain sight. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. I just think everybody's kind of interesting. There's some people that aren't, but...

Someone who was born in their living room and never left their living room and their parents stacked the house full of protein bars and shakes and their parents also, okay. You've described every man between the age of 18 and 32 now. Okay, okay. It would have to be this. Someone born in their living room,

there's only two people present, mother and father. Father is the midwife, helps birth the child. They, through some insane sequence of events, they try to rob a bank, and every person they know is at the bank. And to get away with it, they blow the bank up. So they murder everybody they know.

And nobody knows in advance that they've just had a child. They went to rob the bank because they had the child, but no one knows that they had the child. And so they murder and kill everybody, every single person they know at the bank because it was a bank run, because there was inflation. It was inflation that day. Right, it was inflation.

And this child was sent to cause the deflation to stabilize things out. He's kind of like the messianic figure for evenining things out. Yeah, and so like a pack of- It was a prophecy. Like, you know how they're doing the all red calf? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They have to breed the perfect boring boy to counter Beyonce sauce and level this economy out. Yes, so he's raised by himself in this house. He would need a little help, so like a pack of wild boars or something, or dogs breaks in and raises him as their own. But otherwise... That's flirting with interesting.

What you have to do, this perfect boring boy has to be this. He has to have the most banal parents and the most banal trajectory. Uh-huh. It's hard to think about that because think of the most boring, taciturn person you know, and there's at least something interesting about them. Well, okay, so there's two things here.

There's a person's unique flair that they bring to the world, but then there's two, their social connections. So they have to have their social connections completely severed. No one has to know about them. Zero social connections. Zero. Zero social connections.

He might as well be raised on Mars, is what I'm saying. Yeah. But instead, it's like a hauler outside of neon Kentucky. No one knows he's there. He's just eating protein bars his whole life. Completely illiterate.

And jacked as hell. Because he eats like 400 grams of protein a day. He's extremely jacked, but not handsome. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And no one's ever seen him. And then...

What? No, no, no, no, no. I was scratching my ear. I was just just gonna say he one day he turns on spotify he's like 23 he's never he's never streamed anything in his life he's just set in a room lifting weights and eating protein bars and one day he turns what's he listened to well i'd say it's he doesn't listen to anything. One day, he picks up the Wi-Fi from his neighbors.

He's like, I guess he wouldn't have a phone. His parents left behind some ABBA records. Okay. They also, before they blew up the bank, they paid the power company to keep the lights on for the rest of his life. So you're saying the circumstances to create the perfect boring boy

were so insane just because they had to keep him isolated and insulated from the outside world. It was the prophecy. It was that they knew he would one day they knew he would one day balance out runaway inflation yeah so that's true maybe that's the reason for the duggars uh-huh well that's sort of turned into a weird thing but well that everybody knows who they are now yeah i know but it's got to be a family like that minus like all the weird sex stuff you know what i mean it's got to be like

just a a family from somewhere out here in the bread basket they have like 18 kids which is the most interesting thing about them because they had 18 perfectly boring kids. Yeah, right. Well, in this case, there's one perfectly boring kid and he's the most boring kid to have ever lived. To have ever lived. But one day he hears an ABBA record

provided by the power company keeping the lights on. And that's when things got fucked up. That's when he decided to go to Sweden. He's like, I gotta see what ABBA's about. Except he didn't say that because he doesn't know how to speak. He's illiterate,

and he also doesn't know how to talk. So, like, the thought... He's a... Yeah. He's a messianic figure. Yeah, the thought that ran through his mind was like... It was... It was...

It was jarring. Totally moronical. But something happened to him when he discovered Abby. He's like, I gotta go figure out what's going on here. Yeah, in his mind, he was like... But that translated to, I have to go figure out what's going on.

I gotta go check out what's going on in Sweden. I got to go check out Eurovision 24. So he goes to Sweden in the wake of Beyonce just going there. Prices are through the fucking roof, man. It's like $30 for a loaf of bread. And he's like, Jesus, what's happened? As soon as he touches down, like the protein bars are, he's like withering away because he can't afford his protein bars.

Exactly. He's withering away. He can't afford his protein bars. And like, but the cosmic like boringness, like the boring radiation wafting off of him like people are like holy shit this is the most unpopular man in the world they're like wow this is the duality of man here it's the duality of sauce and all the sauce and everything levels out immediately. Yeah, man.

And so it causes deflation. Prices start going down. And then before you know it, it's kind of like. But the thing is, is he's an unsung hero because no one knows why or what happened. It's like kind of like our hypothesis from this past weekend. Like what if the rapture already happened, but only one guy went? It was just like. That is, yeah, like it wasn't this mass exit event like we thought, but rather only like a handful of guys that nobody knows of went.

Just like one single person. God was like, everyone sucks. And we're actually living in the tribulation right now. Yeah. Or we all misjudged it and the rules to get raptured away are extremely stringent. So. Yeah.

Like wow, that's even harder than I thought to be a Christian. What if? I mean that's true. Like what if it's more than just you have to be saved? What if it's like you also have to be white? Yeah, 21-year-old landowner. You have to be a white...

Yeah, you also have to be a landowner. A white male landowner. It's like the same rules for voting in, like, the 18th century. Right, right. That's how... If you wanted to make the rapture, that's the rule. So most of us were left behind, obviously. Uh-huh. And this is the tribulation, this is the real tribulation generation.

Doesn't it make sense? It makes so much sense, really. It makes so much sense that we're in the tribulation. Wait, so let's say the tribulation started with Donald Trump's election in 2016. Mm-hmm. We're in year seven now, right? We are in year seven. So Christ is ready to return on a white horse.

Yeah, and is this also the year he's going to throw Satan into the lake of fire? He's going to bind the serpent to the lake of fire. Mm-hmm. Big things coming this year. Big things. Big things. gonna bound bind the serpent to the lake of fire big things coming this year big things big things we're gonna solve inflation in sweden and the and the great serpent is mentioned in the book of revelations is gonna be bound and thrown into hell i mean a lot going on the second half of the year a lot going on we got a lot to cover in just six months yeah Yeah. Stay tuned. It's gonna be crazy.

Uh-huh. Back to that piracy warning, though. That's a really hilarious way to guilt someone into not pirating something. Do you think there's a person out there who's like, oh, no,

I don't wanna harm the economy. Would somebody please think about... Yeah, my God, I can't. Inflation's bad enough as is. I'm gonna get an authorized copy of, what'd you say the movie was? The Killers? The Killers with Burt Lancaster.

Why'd I say the Kentuckian? That has Burt Lancaster in it too, though. I think it's the K that you're thinking of. Yeah. Anyway. What's the plot of the Kentucky? I've never seen that one. It's a western.

Big Eli Wakefield, I think that was. Big Eli Wakefield decides to leave 1820s Kentucky and move to Texas with his son, Little Eli. Along the way, they run into two women who take a liking to the pair. Indentured servant Hannah, played by Diane Foster, who wants to go with them,

and school teacher Susie, who would rather have big Eli marry her and settle down. Yeah, I mean, who wouldn't? Damn, dog. 2.6 million. All right, what was the budget here? Yeah, 2.6 million.

Uh, 2.6 million. Yeah, Walter Matthau. I forgot about Walter Matthau. Man, Walter Matthau is such a good actor. I loved Walter Matthau in Dennis the Menace. It was great. I loved him in The Odd Couple. Yeah, Grumpy Old Men and Dennis the Menace were like two mainstays of my childhood. Yeah. loved them in the odd couple yeah grumpy old men and Dennis the menace were like two mainstays

of my childhood that was good shit dude I love grumpy old men because like it really did romanticize being old and you don't get movies like that anymore there's no romanticizing

even if they were like miserable bastards who hated each other, it still looked pretty tight. There is, yeah, we need more films. Listen, I've said this for a long time. We need more films. It's called like The Eight Troublemakers, and it's just like eight old guys just out there raising heck. Just getting into all kinds of hijinks.

What happened to that archetype? Like the old man who's constantly playing tricks on people. I don't know. We need that back right now. Especially to ride out the remaining six months of the tribulation. That's true. How the fuck are we going to get through these next few months with that one? I don't know. Huh. We've got the riders on strike on strike we're gonna have to turn back to the films of yore

film festival old guys doing hijinks grumpy old man what else is there dennis the menace i guess is well dennis the menace is doing the hijinks to the old man in that one that's elder abuse we don't talk about that enough I remember when I was like 18 I'd be like man I can't wait to be old I'm just gonna smoke weed all day but like now that I think about it I'm like

why not go rob a bank you can easily get away like you and 8 other old dudes can easily get away with robbing a bank oh man there's a dude across the street, old guy, absolutely hates me. Hates me. And every time I go for a walk in the evening time

and he's just sitting out there or in the morning time and he's just like grilling me the whole time, I think to myself, if this man really hated me so much, he basically could take my life penalty free. No one would be mad at him. He's like 93. Yeah, dude.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like nobody, who's gonna prosecute him? He's gonna be dead in five weeks. You know what I mean? That's old, old men are the most dangerous. They are. Don't stick about it.

They really are. They got nothing to lose. Yeah. Cormac McCarthy, he was old as fuck, man. He really are. They got nothing to lose. Yeah. Cormac McCarthy. He was old as fuck, man. He was 89. He was the most dangerous. He wrote like he had nothing to lose.

He was the most dangerous man in America. With a pen. With a pen, yeah. I did like that excerpt that was going around about him. About, uh... It's like from some story hold on a second i'll pull it up here about him eating beans yeah the bean eating story and how he used to bathe in the lake well it like it summarized like the the dream of whitesburg 10 years ago yeah dude like everybody in whitesburg was trying

to just bathe in the lake and eat beans and like live basically for no money uh-huh the funny well the funny thing about that is um so the the whole thing was that he it was like an interview with his wife she said we were bathing in the lake someone would call up and offer him two thousand dollars to come speak at a university about his books he would tell them that everything he had to say was there on the page so he would eat beans for another week and someone someone tweeted that uh a big account i don't want to single her out for a pile on but it said am i the only one that thinks this makes him sound like a huge jerk it's like what in that it's like the man established clear boundaries around his art clear boundaries and principles around his art. Clear boundaries and principles around his art. What about that makes you a jerk?

I don't understand. Listen, Annie Delisle didn't have to marry him. She knew when she married him the man lived in a fucking dairy barn outside Knoxville with no electricity. He ain't offering her anything that wasn't in the brochure.

Cormac McCarthy might have been the last guy. Well, a lot's been said. It's like the last guy that was like, I think Will Manninger, the greatest living writer no longer living. Yeah. So there's that. So everybody's looking for who's going to hold that crown.

But he might also be the last famous guy that actually dropped out of the rat race. Yeah. And by that I mean just said, you know what? I'm just going to live in a small town in Tennessee and fuck the rest of this stuff. And I'll interpret things as I see them. I'm not going to move to New York or Los Angeles or whatever. I choose to take myself out of that.

And there's something I like about that it's it's inspiring you also you got to consider that he wrote at least two masterpieces of american literature before he was even discovered blood meridian and sultry and you can make an argument that a few of his other books in that era are also masterpieces he wasn't discovered until he was like in his 60s when they when they adapted all the pretty horses well and then the other thing that's crazy about him is after that the man just cranked out instant classics yeah you know what i mean like no country for old men is not an old novel i think it came out like 2007 yeah and the movie came out a couple years later. Yeah. But that feels like one of his, like that would have, if you didn't know any better,

you'd think that might have came out in 66 or something. Right. And, uh. Yeah. So. Godspeed to an Appalachian legend. Yeah, dude. I like the, uh. Honestly, that's part of the reason I wanted to move out here when I was like 19.

Like truly, I applied to the university to Tennessee because I read Sutry. And I was like, Knoxville sounds cool. Oh, my God. Did you really? Yeah, dude. I mean... You were almost a volunteer. I was almost a volunteer because of Cormac McCarthy.

Oh, my God. Amazing. Did he even teach at Knoxville, UT Knoxville? I don't think so. Could you imagine him teaching? I'm just going to live here. Yeah. Interesting choice.

Dude, I got a question. Do you think that the orcs, or the orcas, I'm sorry, that whole orcas thing, do you think that story is like a planted story? I hope not, because I want to believe. Sort of like the UFO thing. Because obviously the UFOs thing is like a planted story. The whole thing is obviously like a government op

kind of like meant to destabilize your. When things are bad, the aliens always come back. Exactly. But no one gives a shit. That's the funny thing about this UFO thing. We've moved past it. And no one cares. So did they say like, okay, well, maybe what people...

Are there any guys still really into UFOs? You know, I know that there are. It feels like all the real heads have kind of accepted that it's just kind of a distraction. Mm-hmm. A head fake? A trial balloon for a coup? The people prone to wanting to believe

have kind of accepted that, well, yeah, okay, this is definitely CIA or the Defense Department or whatever. Well, I kind of wonder if the Orca story is the same thing. I hope not. I really want to believe that wonder if the Orca story is the same thing. I hope not. I really want to believe that a traumatized Orca has deputized 29 of his friends to go and capsize a bunch of yachts. It's the great, honestly, it's a great premise for a Western. Oh, it's great.

Yeah, somebody's got to write that. Yeah. I pitched an idea of course you know uh it being the rider's track and everything didn't get any traction of course that's why yeah yeah but i said listen what if what if we did this what if it's like a story but it's got to be like an over-the-top like cocaine bear-esque send up of like these over the top 80s comedies uh-huh but it's these orcas right and they go after all these rich guys boats right it's like jaws but like it's righteous jaws yeah okay yeah okay follow me okay and here's here's the crescendo

all of a sudden like the orcas are like you know they're getting battered or whatever like they're like they these rich guys have harpooners going after them and stuff like that some of their friends have been killed but our titular character gets a little help from deep and you hear you know the ominous jaws keys and then the great white shows up and then there's like a conversation between them that's captioned on the screen. Uh-huh. And the orc is like, are you here to help? Because if not, I'll kick your ass or something like that.

Because, you know, orcs beat up on Great Whites. They do, yeah. And the Great White says, no, I'm here, brother. And then they touch fins, and then it cuts to the one thing the establishment truly fears. And then the Great White gets on there and just starts eating people on the deck like jaws one yeah or another thing could happen is we could virtue signal how badass these orcas are and when jaw shows up two of them just beat the shit out of him real quick and yeah fuck jaws send him back to where he can but sometimes you need you know it's like wolverine and x-men you need the guy that's there it's gonna just

be chaotic yeah killer well not really striking fear in anybody's heart which is which is a fool's errand because you've seen what these things have done when they're in captivity? Dude, this is interesting. Surely it's not a coincidence that in 2020 we had this thing like, oh, the dolphins have returned to Venice. Nature's healing. And then within a year or two we get this spate of movies about, I guess what I'm saying is it's interesting that in the horror movie, B-movie world

that are... Our source of horror right now is nature gone awry. You get Cocaine Bear and the Crack Raccoon or whatever that's coming.

I saw the poster for that one. Oh, no. Why you get those at the same time you get these orcas also demonstrating some rather human-like behavior? I'm just saying it's just a little... You think it's a little sus or do you think the natural world is striking back in a way? I think it's a little sus. Okay. I do. Say more. the natural world is striking back in a way i think it's a little sus okay i do say more so i don't know how the fuck whales could figure out how to communicate from nantucket bay

to san francisco bay unless they have some oh i see it was the first one that attacked the ship there was like i think it's in both oceans, right? Yeah. I think... Well, yeah, yeah. The one, the 30 whales is in California, right? Are they just using the fiber optic internet cables, sort of like you put a solo cup on the end of one

and you just talk into it? Well, you know how those things go. They communicate like they're talking through Vuvuzelas. You know those things that have soccer matches? Yeah. So maybe that does radiate and go 3,000 miles. And when they hear it in California, they say, oh, yes, we have to mount up.

Time to rise. Time to rise up. I'm just saying don't count it down. You're right. Sound does travel far underwater. And we don't even know. They might be tuned into frequencies that are... Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like dogs. Good point. Dogs hear, like, really shrill things that we can't even hear. That's true. Maybe orcas are just on a different wavelength. I wonder if it makes us... So, you know, like, when you pee,

there's the sound of the water hitting the urine, hitting the water in the toilet. But, like, obviously it's coming out of a very tiny little slit, like a very tiny little hole. Regardless of what equipment you've got downstairs, like, the hole is very tiny. I wonder if it emits, like, a high whistling noise when you're peeing that only dogs can hear.

Do they hate it when you pee? Or only cats. That's why they come to that perverted shit while you're in there. You know, cats, like you're just trying to use the bathroom. They come in there and start rubbing on your shit. Dude. Like your legs, that is. Wow, we have a cat that pisses.

Dude, every time I go in there to pee, it gets on the back of the toilet and just starts meowing at me loud as fuck. It's like, and I can't pee. I get nervous. I get like, I'm like, oh, I'm being watched now. It's just like, yeah, it's just like. It's terrible. Yeah, I can't even have a goddamn moment's privacy. Yeah.

What else is in the news? Well, one thing I want to say about the Orca thing. Did you ever watch the 1977 movie Orca starring Richard Harris? No. And Charlotte Rampling? Nuh-uh. What was the... I think, well, it's a terrible movie it's got about nine percent

on rotten tomatoes and robert town who you know also wrote chinatown yeah also wrote orc okay anyway i think it's well let's see it says the description is ocean going tail with ecological overtones in which a ruthless profiteering fisherman accidentally kills the pregnant maid at the candy killer well it's jaws meets moby dick as the bounty hunter becomes the target of the enraged grief-stricken creatures craving for vengeance yeah dude this this is exactly what i was saying this is orca playing out in real life we've returned back to the movies of the 70s and 80s like um what was the stephen king movie where the dog is kujo yeah kujo and

then there's like fucking obviously jaws and you know what i'm saying it's like the movie industry works in these cycles and uh we're in another one. It's animal cycle. We're in another animal cycle at the same time. It even started. What's that movie we watched with Idris Elba? It was dog shit last year. Oh, yeah.

Beast. Beast. With those crazy lines. Yeah, that movie was insanely mediocre. Yeah, it's kind of a return to the reagan 80s in a way products and animals uh-huh that's true products and animals products and it's like that song, cowboys and girls. I remember when we used to shoot them up. There's a $6 million budget on Orkin. It made 14.7. Man.

Not bad. Not bad for a... I'm going to go back to watch it. Well, you know, Julia Roberts' Eat, Pray, Love had a $60 million budget. Box office, $204 million. Damn. I was just thinking of that

because Elizabeth Gilbert, the author of that, just recently said she would not be releasing her. Imagine you fucking... Dude, if i spent years writing a book and then somebody said oh you can't publish that it's gonna offend the ukrainians feelings i'm still publishing that motherfucker i spent years working on it i don't give a fuck about a goddamn ukrainian yeah let's call it what it is because you got that eat pray

love money you can you can afford to... Yeah. Just say, no, I'm not going to hurt anybody's feelings in Crimea. What a weird thought. I mean, what a weird... I just don't even know what to think about that. Yeah, I've worked for years on this, but I'm going to just go ahead and... If you feel that strongly about it, just all the settings yeah right just say no no this actually takes place in uh in uh um trinidad and tobago now no controversy there yeah you're good there um so the latter half of the show

I have something I want to read for you this was in the New York Times the title is their crypto company collapsed they went to sorry let me try that again their crypto company collapsed they went to Bali

the implosion of three arrows capital the cryptocurrency hedge fund devastated the industry Oh, boy. I really recommend people look this story up because the story has photos of the two founders. And you got to see these guys. They look pretty cool. Send me a link. I don't know if they're unpopular enough

to single-handedly drive down inflation in Sweden, in Scandinavia. But what they lack isn't much. Yeah, right. So, just starting out here Not long after his cryptocurrency hedge fund collapsed Last year Spawning a market meltdown that devastated the industry

Kyle Davies got on a plane And left his troubles behind He flew to Bali As his company was liquidated And law enforcement authorities opened investigations On two continents Mr. Davies spent his days painting in cafes and reading Hemingway on the beach. He also went sightseeing. He traveled in Thailand, where the fried oysters

cost only a few dollars, and admired the local architecture in Malaysia. He posted a photo from a private zoo in Dubai, showing him stroking a tiger chained to a pole. In Bahrain, he attended a Formula One event in the run-up to the grand prix one clear evening on a rooftop in bali mr davies took shrooms with a group of crypto colleagues you look at the stars and the stars are just like moving he recalled over dinner last month at a seafood restaurant in barcelona where he was vacationing with his wife and two young donors you touch the grass and it feels like not like normal grass. Life is a crypto industry pariah, it turned out, wasn't so bad.

A year ago, Three Arrows Capital, the hedge fund founded by Mr. Davies and Su Zhu, both now 36, imploded almost overnight. Worshipped by their hundreds of thousands of twitter followers mr davies and mr ju had been crypto superstars known for their trading acumen let me ask you a question if you were not in 2009 if you were like oh elon musk is cool he's got some interesting things to say i'd give you some slack on that right george cluny started driving a tesla it was cool whatever it's new it's wavy gravy now if you're a guy that

worships the captains of industry in 2023 uh-huh i think you're just wayward i just think you're just wayward. I just think you're like what the Bible describes as a reprobate mind. Just not coming back from that. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It should be stamped. It should follow you wherever you go. You have to put it on your resume. You have to take the mark of the beast,

which is apparently something we need to do in the next six months if we plan on eating after this. I was gonna say, what are the logistics? I've wondered about this for a while. Like, is God going to contract people out during the tribulation period? Because, like, someone's got to tattoo all those people with the mark of the beast. Yeah, and who's going to be the one that feeds the beast mark recipients? Aramark? Who are you going to contract that out to?

Yeah. Uh-huh. Listen, a lot not mentioned in the scriptures, but there's a lot of logistics where this is concerned. There's some open questions for sure. By their own account, Mr. Davies and Mr. Zhu have been thriving. They left Singapore, where Three Arrows was based, and traveled around Asia, effectively taking the summer

off. Mr. Davies started meditating. Mr. Zhu played video games and found a surf instructor. His old crypto associates were bad-mouthing him in the press, but he made new friends and a mix of surfer types and UFC fighters. Man, god damn. Like,

honestly, man, I work every day all right since like i do stuff other than the podcast i'm either writing trying in vain to one day finally have some sort of product a book or something and i can put my name to it's like or doing some sort of some sort of like community thing like yesterday i was doing drum lessons it's like giving back do what you're giving back i'm giving back man i'm giving back to the community um but every day i'm like i really wish i could take today off and do nothing and i don't i never take days off which is fucking hilarious because uh i have a sub i have a mediocre podcast that makes a mediocre amount of money i'm a mediocre writer and i uh you know he's like i don't i don't none of my things deserve

the amount of time I pour into them. Nonetheless, I'm always busy and never happy. You try, you keep plugging. I keep plugging. It's like, I would love to just have nothing to do and surf and play video games. Well, also there's one element

of this that you're forgetting is that show me an American finance criminal that didn't totally land on their feet after fucking so many people out of their life savings. Which is kind of what crypto did in like, you know, a slightly more unofficial capacity. But there were so many people that lost a lot in that shit. Right. You know, same with the various financial collapses that invariably come around every couple years but no finance criminal in american history ever has a bad life after they commit finance crimes no no why is that i just saw like like you just hear about them like

get into a meditation cult and like living in bali or some shit i just saw i like i just saw that the ceo of we work just stepped down like they brought him in after the adam neumann guy left and he just stepped down because like we work is completely imploding um yeah and and that guy adam neumann or whatever the guy that started it he's he's fine yeah sean parker the guy that started it, he's fine. Yeah. Sean Parker, the guy that was Napster and all that shit. Yeah. Fine.

Fine. Show me a guy that made a bundle in tech that's like living under a bridge now. It's none of them. None of them. And that tells the tale on this fucking country. I like how this guy compared himself to a UFC fighter. He said, they had a lot of empathy and sympathy for me, Mr. Zhu said about the UFC fighters.

He says, they get defeated in a big fight, lose sponsorships or whatever, and everyone's crying. But then the fighter himself, his mind has already passed on to the next fight. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure his mind has already passed on to the next fight and isn't just in this weird stasis post-concussed mode where he can't connect two thoughts together. With holes in it, yeah.

Yeah, he's just on to the next fight. Nah, he's got CTE. It talks about the crypto industry crashing last year erasing more than one trillion dollars from the market talks about sam bankman fried doquan and luna yet many other top executives who gained wealth and status by marketing crypto to the masses have avoided serious repercussions they cashed out early invested in real estate or hold up in tax havens the three arrows founders are two of the most prominent examples. They are still living comfortably

after managing a fund that oversaw more than $4 billion at its peak. Mr. Davies and Mr. Zhu declined to provide an estimate of their total wealth but said they had saved enough over the years that they didn't need to work again. Neither was willing to apologize for the collapse. Three Arrows owes

its creditors $3.3 billion. The firm was registered in the British Virgin Islands, and its court-appointed liquidators there claim that Mr. Davies and Mr. Zhu have refused to cooperate in the recovery process. Yeah. Well, let me see if there were, like, I don't know, an angry mob holding your head underwater. Let's see how willing you'd be to apologize for the collapse.

Fucking cocksucker. God damn, dude. They maintained they did nothing wrong. They said they had faced death threats, but pointed out that no government agency had sued them or sought their arrests. A friend recently asked Mr. Davies whether he felt any remorse.

Remorse for what, he said. For the past few months, they have been planning a comeback. In April, they unveiled OpenExchange, a marketplace for traders who lost money in last year's crypto implosions. Customers will be able to buy and sell claims to the bankruptcy estates of defunct crypto firms

like FTX and possibly 3ROs itself. Dude. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. So they're starting, they're kicking it up again, huh? They're kicking it up with a new business, the model of which is being able to buy and sell claims to the bankruptcy estates of defunct crypto firms like FTX and their own crypto firm that went bankrupt. I'm going to go ahead and tell you something, man. Both of these guys need to be ran through a wood chipper or some sort of equivalent machine that totally turns them into paste on the other side.

Yeah, murder is not good enough for people like this. We need to behead them and walk their head through the streets of America's metropoles. Put them in a room with a hydraulic

press on one side and a wall on the other side and the wall has a hole in it the size of a quarter and um over the course of the next two weeks the hydraulic press pushes one wall closer to the other one gradually just gradually so they get to think about their impending mortality which is going to crush all their bones and that's while they live it will push them through that quarter-sized hole in the wall like like two like ooze coming out of a toothpaste tube yeah like play-doh that's what needs to happen to people like this um also yeah i tell you what it

reminds me of to i mean i hate to make yet another church allegory, but do you remember Peter Popov, the famous healing preacher? Yeah, I do. Who was famously caught using earpieces to make people think he was doing miracles. He planted people in there. Or he would pray for people people and somebody in the back would tell them what their name was because they made everybody register when they came in or whatever yeah they would give him anyway he got proven to be a fraud it was like when after all

that happened he just kicked up a few years later and was back at selling like you know miracle prayer cloths you know like the little pieces of cloth that people put oil on and right under your pillows and shit yeah it's just like that the fundamental problem with america is the bad men don't learn their lessons no by design no you know what you've got like kissinger's just turned a. Right. You know what I mean? Right. You're allowed to, in fact, all the evidence to the contrary is there. Like, in fact, you thrive by being a cunt in this society. Yeah, I mean, read this. In pitch documents sent to investors,

Mr. Davies and Mr. Zhu codenamed their new company GTX, an alphabetical success for Mr. Bankman Freed's failed exchange. We just thought it was very funny, he said. So he goes on to talk about how they met. They went to high school together at Phillips Academy in Andover, Mass. They became business partners in the mid-2000s while undergrads at Columbia. The summer after their freshman year,

they traveled to Buenos Aires to set up shop in a cafe, offering to teach local workers how to play online poker and then stake them some money in return for a cut of their winnings. But their plan to create an army of South American card sharps had a fatal flaw. Neither of them spoke Spanish. They had wrongly assumed that working class argentines would understand english

perhaps the most maddening thing of all this that we've been talking about how the bad men don't learn their lessons is that all our bad men invariably turn out to be morons too and they still prosper there's nothing worse than letting a moron prosper unless they're like a benevolent moron right you know um after graduating from columbia they worked overlapping stints at credit suiz before founding three arrows in 2012. Yeah, go look at that stock for a second. Everything these guys touch turns to shit. As by 2021, as crypto prices surged to record levels, they were managing billions of dollars,

investing in crypto startups and borrowing hundreds of millions to fuel even bigger bets. Mr. Zhu amassed 500,000 followers on Twitter, promoting his theory of a crypto super cycle destined to send the price of Bitcoin north of $1 million. Mr. Davies said he viewed the whole enterprise as little different from an online game. If you're very good at the game, you make a lot of money.

For a while, that is an interesting thing and i think it's why like sports gambling has become kind of like uh it's kind of like why it's just like an accepted supplement to like even just watching sports now yeah it's like it it hits that sweet spot where it gamifies your own like-rich-quick thing. Augments the viewing experience in a way, which is beneficial to the sports leagues. And I think that's part of why all these fucking gambling sites, which are ran by guys like this, like FanDuel and Fantasy Kings and all this stuff,

this has all come from the same primordial ooze. Yeah. Yeah, and it also has come about at the moment that crypto has basically collapsed. It's kind of like stepped in. It's like, oh, here's your new... To fill that void a little bit, yeah. Yeah, here's your new online game.

Yeah, here's your new online game that you can get rich off of uh you ever just been sitting around watching the bucks versus kings and said man you know what make this more fun is having a little something on it right um mr mr ju spent 35 million dollars on a good class bungalow a type of mansion popular among Singapore's financial elite. Mr. Davies pursued an even more extravagant prize. I just told Sue, I'm going to get a boat. I need it. Sue was like, well, I need it too. And I was like, well, we need to get it together then.

They picked out a super yacht designed by Italian shipbuilder San Lorenzo with five decks, two retractable terraces, and a swimming pool. They christened the boat much wow a reference to a meme popularized by investors in the joke cryptocurrency dogecoin my fucking god dude it would it would be like it'd be one thing if like this the super wealthy like the super wealthy and powerful were naming their yachts after like greek goddesses or whatever you know what i mean like oh this is uh this is art or whatever you know what i mean like it'd be one thing but to name it much wow just like you might as well go into i mean obviously like i don't think a super yacht is, like, the equivalent of a fucking, you know, a Monet. I don't know.

What's a fucking famous painting or something? Yeah, yeah. The Louvre, whatever. But it's, like, literally, it's just, like, taking a shit all over something that, I mean, much wow. They're dabbing on us, I guess. It is. They're dabbing on us i guess that's the it is they're dabbing on us yeah you're right much wow i mean i don't it makes me angry from a very deep place it's a very weird like fascism in the 21st century is so unbelievably cringe it's really incredible very poor taste yeah like just just imagine a boot

stepping on your neck forever but the boot is the boot has a doge symbol on it and it says much wow yeah imagine that yeah imagine that you're getting sent off to wow yeah imagine that yeah imagine that you're getting sent off to fucking you know some weird fast prison and you just have that fucking stupid ass dog forever printed the back of your neck that's their that's their identity marker yeah they they they hit that's the mark of the beast literally that stupid fucking dog it's like like you know like there was the concentration camp dachau like they're gonna have a concentration camp named much wow and that's good you know what i mean it's just like that's it's gonna be that kind of shit yeah it's gonna be like brutal and then they're just gonna be laughing and meme at all of us as they fuck it. Oh, my God.

Oh, fuck. Oh, man. They picked, okay, much wow. The yacht became Mr. Davies' pet project. Inside, he planned to display a collection of non-fungible tokens, the unique digital collectibles known as NFTs. One floor was set to house a hydroponic garden. An addition requested by Mr. Shoe's wife.

Why do they only know these things? Think about that. Think about Ab Harvest, which is also a scam. Uh-huh. Hydroponic gardening is all, it's like, why, there's like, it's almost like, you know, you've talked a lot about fascism having some aesthetic qualities. You know, you talk about like, you know, the Nazis rebuke of cubism and stuff like when we're talking about the the picasso exhibit and all that stuff right it it also the new version of it also has some weird aesthetic things and it's like

it's like the the sort of uh millennial tech thing is sort of like they're i don't know how to talk about these things necessarily maybe it's about kate wagner don't talk about this but it's like um just the the clean burnish of like a like i can't even see like a fucking maserati or lamborghini without associating it with this kind of fascism now yeah you know what i mean cars actually built by communists in italy right you know what i mean but for this set yeah yeah you're right tacky it's just it's tacky it's extremely gaudy yes yeah um you know and it's yeah i don't know i just keep reading here i was actually looking at some islands as well mr davies said but as he put the finishing touches on the yacht the crypto market was heading veering toward a crisis in singapore mr ju and mr davies had started socializing with mr kwan the creator of luna in february 2022 they bought 200 million dollars of luna tokens three months later luna

lost all its value in a matter of days the crash sent the price of every major crypto token plummeting many of three arrows other bets started souring fast as the market cratered the founders lenders ordered them to pay back hundreds of millions of dollars money that three arrows no longer had behind the scenes it was chaos at one point they tried to borrow 5 000 bitcoin worth 125 million dollars at the time from the crypto lending firm genesis to pay back a separate loan to a different creditor the impact of the firm's implosion was immediate and sweeping one of three arrows largest creditors was voyager digital a crypto bank that had lent it at about 700 million dollars um let's see in letters to the judge overseeing voyager's bankruptcy its customers described the impact of those life-changing losses

losing this money with no end in sight has been unbearable for my family wrote one investor who had thirty thousand dollars stored on it i wake up most nights and just walk up and down the stairs contemplating on my own mistakes. Jesus Christ. Um, on Twitter, various furious crypto investors blamed Davies and Zhu for accelerating the market crash. Singapore's financial regulator reprimanded them saying the firm had firm had provided misleading information to the government. In the media, they were accused of being a Ponzi scheme. Let's see. Mr. Xu said his lawyers had assured him that Three Arrow's actions were wider than white.

By the time the firm... That's a weird statement. Uh-huh. Drink a lot of alcohol and you go to the beach and just meditate, Davies said. You have these magical experiences. In late June, a court in the British Virgin Islands appointed liquidators at the consulting firm Teneo to take over the fund and recover more than $3 billion that creditors were owed. Dude, I don't... That's so weird.

It's just like, I guess that just proves it, right? And the Adam Neumann thing is another example, the WeWork guy. It's like, once you've got the money, you're good, right? You can never really go broke again. You can never really go broke again. Yeah. But when you're at the lesser tiers, it is a pyramid scheme, all fundamentally. Right.

Because you've got to get all these people under you and you're you're fine but all the people under you in the sort of rat race are not fine like their existence is still precarious and like bound to all the whims and stuff but you're going to be okay particularly because you're going to have the information earlier you're going to know how to get out and save all this stuff and blah blah blah blah um like many crypto evangelists mr shoe has a propensity for audacious pronouncements he once predicted that disputes over crypto could cause a civil war in the u.s and he often frames his observations about the market in world historical terms we're entering the age of chivalry he said over dinner last month an hour or two later he

added we're in the golden age of slander. Do you think crypto could cause a civil war in the U.S., man? Of all the things. I think, well, I think, I think, no. I think that's an inflated sense of their own influence. That's part of them wanting to be like these, like, world-specific actors in a very particular moment and like have their name etched in history but i hate to break it to these guys all they're going to be remembered for is just having weird taste in a pivotal moment in society like you

could have what you mean to tell me you could have alleviated so much suffering that was going on and instead you were eating fatty pork dishes getting drunk and meditating in singapore dude this this quote in particular mr shoe said i've always been quite anti-capitalist he insisted he was actually against yachts personally his wife evelyn gave him a skeptical look. You did have that dream of traveling around the world, she said. The Much Wow never set sail. The shipbuilder canceled its contract with Mr. Davies and Mr. Shue after they missed a final payment. The yacht was sold to a new buyer. Amazing.

Well, you know, maybe one of these days we can get the Much Wow at a discount price. Like $3? $3.50. And we'll just torch it. Oh, man. Oh, man. I swear to God, dude. There's no justice.

There's just no justice. Mr. Davies said he was ready to move on from Three Arrows. I really spent so much time meditating in Bali that I'm just really pretty zenned out. It's fucking big as dorks. Within a few months of seeing their company implode, he and Mr. Zhu were discussing new business ventures, including a co-living scheme in Bali. These guys really love living together. They love it. They love doing everything together.

Let's get a boat together. They love it. The waves, they just keep coming, Mr. Shoe said, reaching for a surfing metaphor. You can crash on a big wave. It doesn't matter. You can injure yourself and just heal and get the next one. Wow. That's how that works i'm just yeah wait for you wait for your next ship to come in um mr shoe said he was do what i just

wanted to reiterate out that i hope these guys die carry on um mr shoe said he was tuning out the criticism on twitter he responded to a negative article in the wall street journal by quitting john f kennedy we choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard i've created 75 jobs he said over dinner at singapore at least these people like me. I don't know if I would bet. Don't bet your yacht on that. I wouldn't say, yeah. If Nikola Djokic hates his job, I'd break it to you guys.

Yeah. Yeah. In Barcelona last month, Mr. Davies seemed relaxed and spoke glowingly of the amazing cafes on Las Ramblas, a busy thoroughfare that cuts across the heart of the city. One Saturday night, he ate a late dinner at El Pescador, a seafood restaurant near the beach, ordering oysters, croquets, local wine, and three rounds of whiskey.

By the end of the meal meal he was rattling off business ideas in dubai he said he has made inquiries about opening a chicken restaurant possibly in the form of a cloud kitchen with no storefront for a while he and mr ju considered making a film about doquan and the collapse of luna our bait our idea was basically that we would do an empathy piece he said we had a whole team that was going to produce it at sundance or whatever i love that or whatever the fucking mr davis has also thought about getting into the ai industry i would like to believe that i can create two more businesses he said but i'm also okay with the idea that i'm fully retired at this point he left the

restaurant at midnight strolling down a busy street lined with outdoor bars where murmurs of late night conversation echoed in the distance he was beaming if anyone has any problems he declared just go to bali then he turned swaying slightly and walked into the night like i love the idea of them making an air-like movie about Doquan's Luna. It's like, that may be the future, man. In 10 years, once there's another round of them making movies about things, they'll probably start making movies about various cryptos. You know what I'm saying? So instead of the Blackberry, there'll be a movie about Ethereum or whatever.

Dude, you're so right dude you're so right you're so right and it's going to be the most boring shit in the world uh-huh you know just like self-obsessed people i mean i don't know man like i haven't seen air and i know literally nothing about the creation of the air jordan uh sneaker but at least you can put it on your foot and walk around with it and it serves a purpose right it's yeah yeah the blackberry at least served a purpose, and to some degree, the flaming hot Cheeto. Yeah, yeah. But the flaming hot Cheeto is at the very margin. You know what I'm saying? It's like... Right.

This is even more useless than the flaming hot Cheeto. It will give you twice the diarrhea. You'll get hot snakes. Oh, my God. You'll get the hot snakes from Luna and Ethereum and Dogecoin. Oh my god. The Dogecoin

biopic coming to Hulu in 2029. No good. Much wow. Much wow. It's going to have Elon Musk saying to the moon on Saturday Night Live.

That's going to be the whole thing. Oh my God, dude. That's incredible. Yeah. We have to go back. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Going forward is not working out for us.

No, it's really not. Anyway. Anyways. Well, you know, that's about all I got for today. But I don't know. What else happened this week? That's about it, right? I think that's it.

Yeah, that was not terribly eventful. Again, I hope the whales are above board and not some sort of op, but now you've got my whales turning. I kind of think it is, personally. Just think about it. It doesn't make any sense. I want to think that whales are...

Like... sense like i want to think that whales are um like that they operate on these like millennia old ideas of like justice and vengeance and uh you know and right and wrong and good and evil but as we know human consciousness was a catastrophic error that's true before we became conscious

we were just like those whales we didn't know right or wrong we were sucking and fucking just looking for our next meal we were just looking those whales we didn't know right or wrong we were sucking and fucking just looking for our next meal we're just looking for an ex-veal yeah like you know what i mean like you think the whales are still in the sucking and fucking looking for their next meal phase yeah i mean well i just yeah they probably are i mean what if they're what if they're gaining They probably are What if they're gaining Sentience in the way that we know it

I mean they are sentient But I'm talking You know what I mean Like intelligence in the way that we They would They would need A mode of production And ideology

What if they're coming into their own Ideologically though It doesn't seem like they have either of those things i don't know man it could just spend some time among them it could just be it could be just as simple as ocean temperatures are rising and it's making them more freak out irritable yeah and they're freaked out it's like they're they're the frogs that are boiling in the pot that's kind of more plausible than like uh a whale i mean i want to believe that a whale was traumatized by some humans and then now it's running roughshod on these things but yeah that that seems a bit more plausible that uh you know that's the thing like we're just gonna write it off as like that like the truth probably really

is like we've acidified the fucking ocean so badly that they can barely live in them anymore and so they're just kind of like freaking out but like what we're gonna do is like craft weird ideological or any fantasies about it and just be like oh oh, they're rising up. This is epic. And just forget about it in like six months. Unless they start catching some bodies. Then that could be interesting. Yeah, that would be tight. Take out the fucking much wow.

Yeah, start there. Go to Bali, Wales. Go to Bali and take out the much wow. Yeah. Oh, shit. Go to Bali and take out the much wow. Yeah. Oh, shit. Mm-hmm. Well. All right. Well, it's about all I've got for this week.

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