Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 307: Dinner Roll Crimes

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

This week we talk about roping and riding, hear a tale from a listener, head to Texas for some garden variety insanity, and get an update on the situation at WVU Please support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

You know, I know we've kind of touched on it in the past, but I've been doing a lot of thinking on it lately. And I feel like of all the spectator sports, tennis, basketball, football, rugby, swimming, poloo is that a sport or am i getting confused with marco polo no water polos water is that the same thing as marco polo different you know just similarly named is marco polo when you say marco and then someone tries to find you yeah then they say polo and then you try to use that you try to echolocate on the swim that's a fucking stupid game you should do that you should have to do that underwater

you can't come up until you find marco that's how you should have to find a mate in life like everybody at age whatever everybody jumps in a swimming pool and you play one big game of marco that's how you should have to find a mate in life like everybody at age whatever everybody jumps in a swimming pool and you play one big game of marco polo until until you're dead only two remain yeah i agree um and also that decides if you're gay or not yeah that's the size it's like if you catch if you're a man you catch man well that's just what it is it's just what it is yeah i would love for that to have happened to me at a man. Well, that's just what it is. That's just what it is, yeah. I would love for that to have happened to me at a young age. Just someone to tell me what gender to like to be sexually attracted to.

All right, listen, we'll cut through the noise for you here. Here's what you like. Actually, that actually is literally what happened now that I think about it. My mom used to not let me twirl my hair and stuff. Hey, hey, hey. Stop it. If you picked up a tote bag or something and you put it over your shoulder instead of hanging it down,

like, hey, blow the waste. Yeah, she would make me wear wrist straighteners so that I was never... It's like when you... Do what? Like make me wear wrist straighteners so that I was never. Do you really? It's like when you. Do what? What's that thing they do in certain countries?

Like what do they do? They bind your feet or whatever. What's the utility of that? I think it's like maybe for like a ballerina thing or something like that. Just so that you don't. Your mom was doing that just so you wouldn't do gay gestures yeah yeah she really would she'd like slap my hand she said like boys don't twirl their hair and now it's fucked up i wish you would have just shot back with well this boy does

just sassy to my mom bitchy about it well what's fucked up is that now like i have been robbed twice didn't get to twirl my hair when i had it and now i'm losing it so like i know i don't get to twirl my hair you know what i'm saying it's like that's just a little left twirling yeah man it's fucked up it sucks being a man where i was going with that was uh where i was going with that was uh of all the sports and this includes i'm including wrestling in this too like um you know like professional wrestling like wwe sports entertainment rather than greco-rom yeah yeah of all the sports but also include greco-roman in there too why not i'm saying of every single one i feel like out west we truly landed on

something that is a more perfect simulacra of human life of human existence than any other sport. And I'm referring, of course, to rodeo. Rodeo is the perfect analog to human life. It's not... How so? Because it has elements of artificiality, like staged theatric, but also extreme authenticity to the extent that you could die.

You could have a bull trample on your nuts and your face at the same time. I'm not going to use one or the other. And your point is that's what life does to you? That's what life does to you, yeah. Unless you have a BBL, in which case the bull's hooves just bounce right off your ass yeah so basically you're saying if you were blessed enough to grow up in the rodeo you're already well prepared for life because life's gonna buck you off and stomp on your nuts yeah like i know it's it sounds kind of like a trite point but like actually think about it there is

there is the um like you know like the two big the two big parts of rodeo like roping and riding and roping requires a little bit of skill you You know what I mean? You got to kind of be a sharpshooter with that thing. Riding is kind of more, I mean, I don't know. It's about survival. It's about just staying on. Yeah, it's about staying on. It's about how strong your wrists are. Maybe that's why my mom was.

That actually is good. It's like, okay, there's survival. There's surviving and then there's thriving. Roping would be thriving. That means you've mastered their survival part, so much so that you've picked up a skill or applying your craft and excelling at life. And then riding is just about survival. Riding is about survival.

That's half of it. Half of it's survival. The other half is trying to figure out how to make something up. That's exactly right. And that's all real, right like that's not staged but then there are parts surrounding it and influencing it that are staged for example there is an audience there are rodeo clowns who do perform a real task but are also perform performing yeah. You know? There's an announcer who's probably calling you a pussy for not even staying on for more than 30 milliseconds.

You know? It's like I saw a video the other day of a guy getting... So you're saying like you'll have your critics and your... Yeah. Yeah. Like I saw a video the other day of a guy getting thrown off a bull and then he got like trampled. Is that that guy in Spain

that was running with the bulls? No. Well, would you consider running with bulls a sport? It's depravity is what it is. I'm still a commentator with running with the bulls though. Yeah, I don't think so. I think it's just... What do they do?

They just, like, everybody gets a head start, then they release a Bull? I think they release a lot of Bulls. God, dude. Yeah. Oh, that's why it's running with the Bulls instead of running with the Bull. And then they play that Rage Against Machines song.

What would be tied is if they played that Alan Parsons project song that the Chicago Bulls used to come out to, and then it's just Benny the Bull. Yeah. they played that Alan Parsons project song that the Chicago Bulls used to come out to. And then it's just Benny the Bull. Yeah. The guy in a bull suit just chasing everybody and trying to... That's what they need to do next year at Paloma.

Uh-huh. A guy in a bull suit trying to gorp. A guy in a bull suit. Yeah. Chasing a bunch of bulls in human suits. Yeah. Put those little tuxedos on them and how they dare a guy in a bull suit like we should do that we should reverse rodeo we should have bulls ride humans and cows get to rope humans carry a. Yeah, not so fun as an asshole.

I saw a video the other day, though, of a guy getting stomped. He got, like, Frank Kirkland. Or Kirk Franklin. Frank Kirkland. That's so good. It's Kirk Franklin. He was like, stomp. What was the video of it was a guy he was he had been riding a bull and he got bucked off immediately and the bull came down on his leg

and it it basically like severed his fucking foot from his leg like it just snapped it and snapped it in half you got like sinew where it's just like skin and sinew, like holding the foot to the leg. Yeah. And like the rodeo announcer's like basically calling him a bitch. Oh, that one's going to hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe he'll stay on. This guy's sitting there writhing in pain.

And that bull's thinking, that's just life, motherfucker. maybe he saw his mother-in-law in the crowd and you know that kind of stuff yeah the guy's just like in the worst pain he's ever in and the announcer is just like shitting on him and that's what life is like everybody tap dancing on you in your lowest moment yeah road and while two literal clowns are hoisting you up, me and you, we're life's radio clowns. Yeah, we would be the guys that put panties on hogs and stuff on little calves. Me and you dressed up like clowns and just putting little silk bloomers on baby cows. That's the thing. I realized my role in life is not to be a clown like a comedian

it's to be a rodeo clown a podcast right he's a commentator not someone who's an entertainer but a commentator but also who's in the ring like i'm in the ring of life we split the difference between the rodeo clown and the announcer guy yeah because we do tap dance on people in their lowest moment um brings me no brings me no uh great pride to say that it is true and then we also uh bring the yuck yucks i guess yeah sometimes not always but not not always yeah we try to yeah i was uh i was just thinking about that this weekend Not always Not always But you're out there Yeah I was I was just thinking about that this weekend

I saw a funny thing this weekend I saw several funny things this weekend I was in Ohio And Was driving on a back road In Ohio And saw a house That had all these like,

you know, impeach Biden signs up front and a maga signs and everything. And I saw one of the signs said impeach corrupt Joe or something like that. And the one right below it said, tell Nancy Joe's got to go. It was like, man, are they like Nancy Pelosi?

They're, they're appealing to Nancy Pelosi now. Is that the Nancy in question? That's the Nancy in question. So they're willing to put aside the fact that they've hated this woman for years and years and years and years. But if she can somehow get rid of Biden, then all's forgiven. I think it's like how like when libs tell their people to call your congressman even if your congressman is like the most genocidal baby

eating monster like rand paul or something yeah like you know what i mean like living in kentucky people are always like write your senators and it's like mitch and rand okay okay yeah it's like i don't know if you understand the fundamental nature of these guys or just people that tend to join politics in general, but oftentimes they're not people that can be reasoned with. Now, I think that might be partially why people like Trump because Trump's not ideological in any way. Yeah.

You know what I mean? He's got no strong convictions about anything other than himself, you know? And so I think that's part of it. I think that, like, I think people are, they're selling on ideology. You think so?

Which becomes a kind of ideology. Can't escape it. You think we're all becoming more like Anthony Oliver? We're a nation of no labels, guys. That's why he's taking off, dude. He's taking off because he won't be pigeonholed into one thing or the other. And people, regardless of how they act,

you can 95% of the time be a genocidal maniac, but if the other 5%, like, you take your niece, you know, to pick wildflowers, in this country, that's good. Well, he's showing a human side. He ran through a once proud nation and pillaged

their resources. Oh, but he's watching paint now. Right. I think George did the Hitler trajectory in reverse. He did all the genocidal stuff and then painted. Right. Like Hitler, no. You do the genocidal stuff and then you get to paint.

Then you get accepted into the art world, yeah. Like I was laughing this weekend thinking about Anthony Oliver. What if it turns out, you know how when he first came out, Matt Walsh and everybody was like, this is real authentic. This is real authentic stuff. What if it turns out, though, that his main source of information, the only way he gets news is from Meet the Press rerun, taped VHS tapes from 1995?

Yeah, when Chuck Todd left, he was out. Yeah, when they brought chuck todd in they were like but like in that and so like that's the only news he gets so in that way he really is like a real authentic person like he has he's so baby brain pure that like he he really is kind of authentic in a way yeah you know how like um back at the dawn of like these sort of uh i don't know what you would call them but the uh sort of tech utopian nootropics uh marcus aurelius kraut yes you know yeah i remember like when apps were really getting off the ground and getting steam, a lot of these guys advocated for the use of apps that would put you on an information diet.

Oh, yeah. So you would get the top five headlines of the day based on some kind of algorithm, and they would just do little two-sentence briefings of what was going on. I think that's where Oliver Anthony cut his teeth. I think he was like a Tim Ferriss guy or something in another life. It's funny, I don't even want to talk about this guy anymore, but he keeps

he's hard to avoid. Well, I think he's done for now. Like, I don't think I think he was at Burning Man and they burned him alive in the man. Oh, so he was like a Wicker Man-style sacrifice. Yeah.

Okay. I think so. Well, I guess we ain't got nothing else to talk about there. Yeah, he's done. I think it's funny, though, to think about writing your congressman. At this point, if you wrote Mitch, because you know how when you write your congressman like they'll usually send you a letter back i haven't done it in a while but like back in the day they used to send you a letter back like saying like i got your stuff imagine you write mitch and you get a letter back and it's like some crayon drawings

and there's some applesauce yeah like like if they were legally obligated to respond every letter that's just part of the job and Mitch just sends you back like just the most crude you know drawing of a dog or something like that yeah there's obviously some like condensed milk on it or something

yeah he spent he spilled like insurer geriatric protein drinks drinks you have to eat drink to prevent muscle wasting dude we are so fucking cooked it's crazy he's like everywhere you look like i don't know what's scarier mitch and his prime or or m Mitch asleep at the wheel? I don't know. It's kind of terrifying, you know. I like that, you know, the second incident that was going around,

I guess a couple days ago or last week or something, and he was, somebody asked him about running for re-election. He got this big, like, Cheshire Cat smile on his face right before he saw the demon Pazazu that was going to transport him to the next world. That's still my theory on it. When he's freezing up, there's some demonic entities that are kind of taunting him about what's to come, and he just realizes it was all in vain.

Yeah. That he summoned so much evil into this world that he can't run from it any longer. He can't take it back now. Yeah. But I don't know. My question is, and if he ever gets any semblance of sentience back,

I wonder if he's going to be mad as hell at his staff for trotting him out there when he was obviously sundowning or whatever the fuck's going on with him. Why do they keep bringing him out there if those things keep happening? Well, Vivek is the one who came up with the... Isn't he the one that

supposedly had the Alzheimer's cure? Rama Swamy? Yeah, maybe he's withholding it from Mitch. Does he claim to have an Alzheimer's cure? That's how he made his millions. I mean, it was a scam. He made his, like, his, like, a...

Well, yeah. It was a total scam, but he still made millions off of it. That is kind of one of the infuriating hallmarks of America is that if you're poor and you're wrong about something, like a wild hunt you have, it can be absolutely devastating. You'll get screamed at in the comments. Yeah, I want to paint a picture. I had permission to share this story.

In fact, this person told me to share this story on the show. But I want to just juxtapose what one man's life looks like when he makes a misstep versus what Vivek Ramaswamy's life looks like when he makes a misstep. Okay. This is from a friend of mine who says, hey, man, I would like to become your all's Joe Dirt. Just come on, tell some crazy stories about my life, and have people asking, who the fuck was that guy? Yeah. And he gave me permission to share this on the show.

Okay. So I was needing some money. A guy I knew offered me $75 for every fishing rod I could steal from our Walmart. Now, these rods are $ 160 to $300 a piece. So I'd go in, grab three at a time and just carry them out over my, over my right shoulder and walk them right out of the Johnson city, Tennessee Walmart. I'd take them to the guy, get the money. Well, one Sunday I had some bad judgment when it was dead as can be in that

walmart which i knew not to do that with so few people in there because the insecurity has to watch better i decided to take three more oh no they put him in his pants they're like sir that's the biggest boner we've ever seen the biggest skinniest boner we've ever seen sir sir you're you have the longest but slimmest cock i've ever seen i start walking out the door and for the first time the alarms go off no i just keep walking i just keep walking and i hear two guys running up behind me saying hey man where's the receipt where's the receipt right here i got i got your receipt right here yeah i got your fucking receipt hanging i just keep walking and i hear two guys running up behind me asking for the receipt they kept asking for the receipt well i make it outside and they're fast approaching they run up to me

and grab each of my arms and ask me for a receipt i mean somebody should ask vivek ramaswamy for a right they should have. But they forgot to because they have Alzheimer's. That's the scam. That is true. If you claim to have a cure for a disease that is inherently forgetful,

you can run that scam for a while because people will eventually forget. Well, there's a reason why there's a cottage industry of ripping off people like via the phone and internet we got to grappling each other shattering the fishing poles i was trying to get away but they each had a hold of me they were pulling me apart like some kind of medieval torture tactic he was being broken on the wheel then i got so nervous i shit all over myself i mean my bowels completely emptied i had shit coming out of the back of my underwear running

down my legs i was screaming let me go let me go i said i just shit on myself let me go finally i was able to elbow both of them and i ran straight to my car i got in flopped down in the seat smearing shit even more everywhere out of my doo-doo ass i peel out of the parking lot drive across the main highway and now i know the cops are coming people were watching the altercation and all of them had their phones out videotaping it probably going to put it on tiktok or something oh fuck i knew i couldn't get far in the 1995 ford escort granny mobile i was in so i pull into the park so i pull into the parking lot of a steakhouse park in the back with the kitchen workers and walk around front find the bathroom i go in the stall i lock the door take my pants off and peel the shit

filled underwear off of me this shit stinks i couldn't help but puke i throw the dirty undies in the corner and scrap the cake shit off my doo-doo ass and legs i take toilet water clean toilet water freshly flushed water, and wipe my ass and legs off. I had two shirts on. I take one off, get it a little wet with some freshly flushed toilet water, and clean up the best I can. I go in the dining area and ask a waiter to use his phone. I call my cousin, tell her where I'm at and that I need a ride. I give the phone back and sit down at the table. A cop walks in, he looks over and walks over to me. He asked me if I'm driving the white station wagon out there. He said, I said, no, I'm driving a Harley Davidson and started chuckling.

I've never ridden one in my life. He tells me to stand up, put my hands behind my back and i stand up and ask him what i did he said stand up so i stood up he reached for my hands and i pushed him hard as i could in the chest he falls down and i take off like a rabbit running from a cheetah i hear him radio for help and hear him saying he's gonna taser me well he shot his taser and. Well, he shot his taser, and as soon as he shot his taser, I run into the kitchen. The floor was wet, so my legs flew up from under me, and I bust my ass on the floor. And the cop thinks he shot me, but he really didn't.

I get up and take off again. He radios that he missed. He's yelling for help. I'm running around the kitchen trying to find a door. He's yelling for help. Some brave kitchen worker thinks he can catch me so he approaches me to try to subdue me for the cop. I told him to back the fuck up because I'm crazy. He comes at me and I send him flying into a tall rack of food. 16 pans of freshly cooked dinner rolls come tumbling down over the top of both of

us. Then I turn and run fell again on the slick floor the cop catches up to me and holds me down with a gun on me so I settled down and let him handcuff me when he let me go I took off toward the exit somebody must not run the mop out because I fell again on that slick ass floor he catches up to me and cusses me all to hell. He marched me out of the restaurant and arrests me. So instead of shoplifting, I'm also charged with assaulting a police officer, assault on two Walmart employees, destruction of property valued at $200, the racks and the dinner rolls, and fleeing and evading.

I'm totally screwed now. When they took me to Walmart, i knew that i had to give them a reason for acting so crazy they got they got my man on some john valjean charges you destroyed the dinner rolls come on bro those things cost like 10 cents a piece i told him i was helplessly addicted to drugs and i sobbed and told him about my kids and they ended up dropping all the charges except for shoplift and did one night in jail and got out so anyway yeah for uh for poor people you make a misstep you end end up getting charged for dinner roll crimes. Dinner roll crimes.

And Vivek Ramaswamy messes up. He can just say, the trials weren't what we thought, but the damage is done. He's made $18 million on the backs of people trying to get their loved ones back. I ask you, dear listener, which one's

worse? I agree. i mean like this like in every conceivable way we're so fucked i went to this store today i went to food city today and not only do they not have at-home covet tests the pharmacist looked at me like I was an insane person just for asking about them. They like acted like I fucking inconvenienced them or something. COVID tests, you say? What is this about? What do you think it says, pal? 2019?

It's just like, I've wondered this for a while. Like, this, like, part, this intrinsic part of the American psyche, like, their tendency of Americans to detest history. Like, we fucking hate it. We hate history in every conceivable way. Which is ironic because it is, like, weirdly enough, one of the sort of battle arenas in which all this insane stuff is playing out. Like I saw that like Oklahoma, the state of Oklahoma just signed a new thing with like PragerU to like introduce PragerU videos and shit into their curriculum. Like into the public school curriculum? Yes, dude. Oh my god, dude.

I'm excited to announce this initiative with PragerU Kids today. These additional resources will help ensure quality instruction in American history and values. Yeah. That's Oklahoma. And then there's like,

I think they're already doing this in like Florida and Texas and stuff. All of which is to say, I've been wondering for a while, like how long like our loathing of history will catch up with us. And it's like very obvious that it's happening right now because everyone i know i know i've mentioned this before but like most everyone is trying to immediately forget the not only the pandemic but like also all the like the political prerogatives and imperatives that were placed on us during the pandemic and like all of the weird sort of phenomena that manifested as a result of it and it's happening right now it's like our our like absolute uh like um insistence on moving forward and not in any way doing any reflection or any kind of uh you know a sober analysis or

processing of what happened it's just now getting to the point where it's like i mean i don't know i don't really know anything about this new strain of covid but let's say for let's say if it was just as as like brutal and awful as Delta. Delta was a pretty bad one. They were that first wave that killed a bunch of people. We just are setting ourselves up for an even worse fatality than the first

several rounds. What we are is a nation of people that don't want to be inconvenienced until we absolutely have to be. You know? We don't deal with problems head on. We let them fester and become big problems. And I mean, hell, I think that's by design. I think like we need to intentionally create bigger problems

so people will have something to fundraise on. We're a country that says we want things to be better, but we don't really want things to be better because if things got better it would like cripple the majority of our economy which is like the wishful thinking economy totally like the one day it'll be better economy right right right you know what i mean this is why the democrats are like purposefully obfuscate things and and you know we've talked about this plenty over the years but how that they are what the Bible would call the authors of confusion. You know why?

Because if they actually did politics and made things better, they're afraid they would render themselves obsolete. So instead, what they're going to do is they're going to slow walk us into the biggest catastrophe probably since like World War II. into the biggest catastrophe probably since World War II. The last thing many of us will see before we are led to our death by firing squad, if we're lucky, is a fundraising appeal in our emails.

I'm telling you, we're going to be cast right into the jaws of Malik, and the last thing we're going to see is Connor Lamb needs five dollars so we can flip Pennsylvania. Or something like that. Or not even him. Who's the worst offender? I've just been thinking about this

because there's several things that have happened this week that are all so indicative of... I don't want to name it. I don't want to put a prognosis on it until I've laid it out. First up, you've got the sentencing of that, what is this, Enrique Torrio guy, whatever, the Proud Boy guy? Yeah, the Proud Boys later. Yeah, he got, like, 22 years. Which I find interesting.

I find it, I find very fascinating that, like, okay, by definition, these guys are political prisoners. Like, by definition. I'm not saying that, like, they deserve our sympathy or whatever. That's a whole other question. I'm just saying that, like, objectively speaking, they targeted the state, and the state targeted them back. And generally, states are very good at identifying... I've just been thinking about this,

because I've been reading a lot about, like, the history of the Balkans in, like, Yugoslavia. It's like, like generally states are very good at identifying the people that threatened their hegemony their their continued existence and the fact that they're like i mean they're locking these dudes up for a long fucking time like that tells me like they're pretty they this isn't like them they have to make an example out of unless somebody else pop up and say oh well we could do this and just get a slap on the wrist why don't we just take a swing at

totally yeah and and then you've got that you've got that at the same during the same week that these charges come down on the cop city protesters um the fucking rico charges right so it's like and then like you read the indictment itself the indictment is very insane the indictment basically you know in in summary basically like it like lays out the definition of like anarchism and like talks about like mutual aid and it kind of identifies like aid and, quote, social solidarity. So there's like a little primer on these various left-wing movements right there in the indictment. Yeah, and to take it even further,

it's basically identifying those things as criminal conspiracy. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like you're doing rico offense you so like basically basically he identifies an anarchist they're trying to do rico on anarchy anarchism anarchism correct on a on a like an ideology that on an idea yeah on an idea that is like what's next man are we going to do rico on the parent heads like jimmy buffett passes last week and like now we're going to have to we're going to charge them as a criminal

conspiracy for fucking i don't know like and not showing up to work yeah i don't know i think that uh i guess where i'm going with the kawanis the rotary club right right are we all are we all subject to rico charges i mean dude you i guess yeah like where do you draw the line because like after like a flood obviously we were doing mutual aid but like do all those like church groups who are also doing like volunteer work are they mutually is that rico stuff you know what i mean like yeah why are you going to go after the vatican for those nuns that uh you know that hop the fence there at oak ridge that are still in prison over there right you know is that a criminal conspiracy like i'll tell you man this new da in atlanta's gotta fucking go she's fucking insane oh it's insane dude it's absolutely insane and i think the point is the point i'm trying to make is that like one

of these two groups you've got like the stop cop city people on one side and the proud boys and the other people who storm the capital on the on the other side one of these two groups enjoys the benefit of if their man gets voted into office they'll just get pardoned and let out of jail no one will ever ever let the cop city protesters or anybody out of jail oh no man you know what I'm saying? Like, that's completely foreboding. It's not it's not ever happening. Aaron made a point on the Patreon this weekend. It was like they were trying to spin the Trump adoptions. They were like a city with a black mayor and a black D.A.

And it took all this to finally bring Trump down. There's no mention of the other shit that's a reprehensible that she's doing you know right the young thug stuff going after after record labels right going after protesters like the fuck out of here you know i think it's the natural i think it's honestly just the natural trajectory of things if you look at crime if you look at like the definition of crime obviously there are some things that are you know should be punishable offenses and like you talk about like abolitionism how those things get punished that's a whole separate issue that's a whole separate issue but but yeah nobody supports uh just uh letting people hurt other people with reckless abandon. Yeah.

But if you talk about the drug war, and specifically other quote-unquote crimes of quote-unquote poverty, which basically put another way, framed another way, which is the criminalization of survival strategies, right? I guess it would make sense that eventually they would then extend that logic to mutual aid or anything like that, because those things are also survival strategies. And I don't know, in a world that is increasingly precarious from climate and from all these other sort of quote unquote exogenous shocks, even though they're not exogenous, they're internal to the system, they're going to identify constituencies within those societies

that they can punish as a pretense for shoring up their own bases of support and security. And I don't know, man. Gr man granted they still got to prove this in court this is just an indictment they've still got to prove all this in court but like i don't know seems like a very a very uh bad sign of where things are heading. Yeah, that's not promising, to say the least. Yeah, sir.

I don't know. I just read an article before we got on here. Maybe we can read it. It's a little long, but I think we can read it pretty fast. Maybe it's in that vein. This is in the Washington Posthington post highways are the next anti-abortion target one texas town is resisting uh so like i'm familiar with like every town in this story in some way like i've had some you know interaction with this particular town is lano texas

where i once got swarmed by fire ants so bad that my foot swelled up so big i couldn't fit it in my shoe that's a matter of four never went back never went back um this is in lano okay so i'm just gonna read here no one could remember the last time so many people had packed This is in Lano. Okay, so I'm just going to read here. No one could remember the last time so many people had packed into City Hall. As the meeting began on a late August evening, residents spilled out into the hallway, the brim of one cowboy hat kissing the next, each person jostling for a look at the five city council members who would decide whether to make lano the third city in texas to

outlaw what some anti-abortion activists call abortion trafficking is lano really one of those towns that really kind of a cowpoke town yeah it's like an hour hour and a half outside of austin and i used to have to drive through it every time i went back to new mexico okay so it's like you have to basically go through it if you're going toward if you're going i think i think we need to do that kind of cosplay in the mountains like i think we like when they write this article about whitesburg it was uh raccoon tail it was touching raccoon tail and all the wreck like we all just wore raccoon skin caps. Yeah, squirrel rifles. Ratty overalls and bear fangs. Yeah, yeah. For well over an hour,

the people of Llano, a town of about 3,400 deep in Texas hill country, approached the podium to speak out against abortion. While the procedure was now illegal across Texas, people were still driving women on Llano roads

to reach abortion clinics in other states. They said their city had a responsibility to fight the murders. The cheers after each speech grew louder as the crowd readied for the vote. Then one woman on the council spoke up. I feel like there's a lot more to discuss about this, said Laura Allman, a staunch conservative who owns a consignment shop in the middle of town. I have a ton of questions, she said. I have a ton of questions, she said.

More than a year after Roe v. Wade was overturned, many conservatives have grown frustrated by the number of people able to circumvent anti-abortion laws, with some advocates gras regions along interstates and in areas with airports with the goal of blocking off the main arteries out of Texas and keeping pregnant women hemmed within the confines of their anti-abortion state. These provisions have already passed in two counties and two cities, creating legal risk for those traveling on major highways, including I-20. So basically they're trying to sequester pregnant women until they have the back that dude that is fucking dog we're heading i like like like okay so what if you were like say like a pregnant woman that was legitimately going to go on vacation or something but

one of your neighbors said no you know i think they did not that that's good that's just so insane to me i feel like we are heading back well like i'll just read this next sentence this is from this this part of this article a large part of this article profiles this specific guy named mark lee dixon he's an anti-abortion activist and he like travels all around texas trying to get these small towns to implement these quote-unquote anti-abortion trafficking laws or whatever this guy's a fucking loser you should see pictures of him he's probably younger than us is he that lawyer that like takes all those cases up to the Supreme Court? He might be a lawyer. I don't think he is.

I think he's just... Maybe that's an older dude. I think he's just an activist. Everywhere he goes, he wears jeans, a black blazer, and a backwards baseball cap. And he's got the stupidest fucking beard you've ever... Dude, he's a fucking loser. And he's got like the stupidest fucking beard you've ever, dude, he's a fucking loser. This quote from him, he says, this really, this really is building a wall to stop abortion trafficking, said Mark Lee Dixon, the anti-abortion activist.

So it's like, I know we've said this on the show. I know a big debate right now is over this question of like techno neo feudalism, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't i'm not a person that thinks that like okay yeah we're going back to feudal times maybe we are maybe we are i don't know but i do think you can say one thing for certain we are living in a world that is increasingly more and more obsessed with walls like this is this is a simple not only as like a a functional object on the landscape but as a symbol so it's like everywhere you look it feels like more and

more walls are being put up for various measures whether to like keep refugees in or out, whether to keep people from having abortions. Or those immaterial walls like bureaucratic hurdles to progress. Or the immaterial ones. Terrorists. Yeah, trade terrorists. Which is fascinating. I find it fascinating because one of the major initiatives one of the major effects of quote-unquote neoliberalism was the tearing down

of quote-unquote walls like this was baked into it from the very beginning after what like you know we've talked about it before in that book Neoliberalism, Quinn Slobodian. Like, these neoliberals, Hayek and von Mises and everything, got together and looked at the world after World War I and saw a world of tariffs and tariff walls and nationalities. World War I was like the great nation-forming war, you know what I mean, like state formation. They had even visualized this with complex maps

of the world that had they like literally built these maps with walls and like the height of the wall corresponded with the uh rate of tariffs that each nation state implemented and part of neoliberalism was breaking that down was making like a confederated global space where you didn't need those things and it definitely seems like now that neoliberalism as i don't know is kind of the juices run out of it to a certain extent we're returning back to that in some ways i'm thinking about this just think about the ways in which our lives have been defined by walls my earliest memory is seeing the berlin wall come down come down yes the op right right right like at the that was probably the height like the apogee

of neoliberal you know world order i know it was like about this contest between quote-unquote communism and capitalism but like that was the defining imagery of our youth now it is becoming it is like it's a reverse trend now now it's like walls are going up everywhere yeah it's like yeah it was like this bringing that one down was like this great symbol of freedom and now it's like okay we're we're far enough away from the cold war uh or at least that part of it uh now let's start putting them up right right and so that's i just think that that's interesting that's just again when people get into these debates like is neoliberalism over is it whatever it's like well

maybe it's premature premature to say what it is and what we're currently in and what's next but you can't argue with the fact that walls are going up everywhere like that is just a fact of modern existence whether it's fucking europe or america at least in the west anyways that seems to be a trend that is increasingly common in the West. It's like they're quite literally, I know literally is overused, but they're quite literally trying to box us in

and then teach us alternative histories and stuff. Look at what's going on in Florida, which you just mentioned, and Oklahoma. This is a country that is founded off these weird creation myths, and we're going to go back to that. There's going to be kids that are going to actually believe with their whole hearts that slavery didn't exist and George Washington cut down a cherry tree because he couldn't tell a lie or whatever. Oh, dude, the PragerU video that went viral a few weeks ago, like this is the kind of shit they're now teaching in Oklahoma, Florida. The video was like, if I remember correctly, Frederick Douglass basically saying that slavery was necessary

to starting the American experiment like the the whole american republic yeah it's just like okay maybe there is some truth to that but not in the way you say it is i mean like yeah okay like america is poisoned like right like we can probably we could probably confidently say that by this point like the whole concept i don't know i've really kind of been like going into the weeds and like reading some people who you know try to recuperate the some leftists who like try to recuperate the idea of america as a kind of trying to like believe in the better angels of the nature of the of our founding ideas yeah yeah yeah yeah guys like chris katron and stuff like that like good to think that like

there are like parts of the national vision that like is historically progressive and and we shouldn't shy away from those and should like use those and it's like yeah i would agree with you if anybody actually likes this piece of shit anymore but like even the conservatives fucking hate america now like remember in trump remember trump a few weeks ago was like um i i'd rather be in i'd rather be in italy i'd rather i hate this place i'd rather i'd rather just be in italy like yeah dude everybody fucking hates america like i don't know it's cool i mean everybody's it is true everybody's taken everything out of it. And everything that makes it special has been so homogenized. And seriously, I mean, you go to fucking Charlotte nowadays, you might as well be in Indianapolis.

You might as well be in fucking Grand Rapids. America has contributed two important things to human civilization and human history. Music and film. You know what i mean that's it we can stop there we can stop there's like we had the best music of any of anyone and we basically created film here i mean you can quibble with that a little bit but like we kind of created it granted the first films were racist and birth of a nation shit but i was oh my god dude i was watching some i was watching this video of billy friedkin after he died from like 2013 he was talking about how much he loved birth of the nation i was like i'm

just not gonna go any further with i'm not i, that's just not to know what your heroes really think, you know? Okay. I got sidetracked. Back to the article. Conservative lawmakers started exploring ways to block interstate abortion travel long before Roe was overturned. A Missouri legislator introduced a law in early 2022 that would have allowed any

private citizen to sue anyone who helped a missouri resident secure an abortion an approach later discussed blah blah blah in april idaho became the first state to impose criminal penalties on anyone who helps a minor leave the state for an abortion but even in the most conservative corners of texas efforts to crack down on abortion travel are meeting some resistance with some local officials even those deeply supportive of texas's strict abortion laws expressing concern that trafficking efforts could go too far trafficking efforts go too far and could harm their communities that is that is kind of the thing it's probably why you'll never see that in like appalachia it's just like some of these towns like literally depend on the interstate being in their town.

Like if you just started arresting everybody who drove through town, like no one would fucking drive through anymore. And like you wouldn't have your gas stations in Hardee's. Yeah. I mean, it would fuck everything up. That's why like when some of these towns are speed trap towns, I wonder, like, that's kind of a bold play. Right. The pushback reflects a new point of tension in the post-Roe debate

among anti-abortion advocates over how aggressively to restrict the procedure, with some Republicans in other states fearing a backlash from voters who support abortion rights. In small-town Texas, the concerns are more practical than political. Two weeks before the Lano vote, lawmakers in Chandler, Texas, held off passing the ordinance. I believe we're making a mistake if we do this, said Chandler Council member Janice Lunsford. Blah, blah, blah. Then came the Lano City Council meeting on August 21st.

Speaking to the crowd, Allman was careful to emphasize her anti-abortion beliefs. I hate abortion. She said, I'm a Jesus lover like all of you in here. Still, she said she couldn't help thinking about the time in college when she picked up a friend from an abortion clinic and how someone might've tried to punish her under this law. It's overreaching. She said, we're talking about people here. to punish her under this law. It's overreaching, she said. We're talking about people here. It is interesting that, I don't know, pointless to point out the hypocrisies of Christians, right? But it's like, it is interesting that basically you are making,

I don't know, you're making it illegal any way to even interface with those people. Granted, maybe that's for the best. I don't know. It's like if you were going to get an abortion, I don't know what's worse. I don't know what's worse, like getting arrested and having to go to jail for that

or getting kidnapped by christians and preached at for three days about the sins i guess that's the thing i guess but they're doing both now oh dude i'll never forget going to an abortion clinic in college with my girlfriend at the time and you park in the parking garage and before you know it you're swarmed by these little fucking sir don't do this sir this is the worst decision of your life and i was like like they just like you know what i mean and it was just so fucking just a disorienting experience and i still fantasize about going back there and turning them all into paste but yeah it's it's back there and turning them all into paste but yeah it's it's i don't know what this would basically do is someone mentioned it on twitter but i do genuinely feel like the rico charges

they hit those cop city protesters with will eventually start getting applied to to this stuff to to people who are helping people get abortions you know what i'm saying people are gonna have to people are gonna start getting hit with fucking rico charges or we're just helping out their fucking neighbor it's like i don't know it's like it's it really is a very strange and terrifying concept because like when you really get down to it like what's the line there because ostensibly couldn't you even apply that to, like, paying taxes? You know what I mean? Like, who builds roads then?

Is road building mutual aid? I mean, it is kind of in a way. What if we, like, raise those concerns? Like, what if, let's RICO the United States military, if you want to talk about a fucking criminal conspiracy. Dude. Every police department in fucking America needs to have Rika. Totally.

Unironically needs to be Rika. 100%. Okay, so earlier how I said that this article profiles this fucking loser piece of shit Dixon guy. About a month earlier, Dixon had arrived in Llano with a urgent warning. A quote baby murdering cartel was coming for the pregnant women

of Central Texas. He recalled telling a group of about 25 Llano citizens in the town library wearing his signature. We are the dumbest society, dude. We're dumber when like some fucking dirty ball cap fucking neck beard is viewed as this oracle like this paul revere figure you know what i mean over it makes like the people

that used to consult the oracle like seem like saying by comparison you know right like the concept that a baby murdering cartel is coming for the town's pregnant women. Oh, my God. It's so fucking crazy. It's like, man, that really just bums me out more than anything that, like, otherwise sane, normal, loving, caring people just believe the absolute dumbest shit these days. I know. people just believe the absolute dumbest shit these days i know and like just this the symbolism of that it's it's so uh sort of redolent or resonant of back in the george floyd protests when there was all these moral panic scares in small towns that hordes of Antifa super soldiers were coming to town.

You know what I mean? That, like, that in and of itself is a fascinating illustration of this impulsor drive towards walled-off terrains that, like, communities, municipalities, whatever you want to call them, are heading in the direction of more and more sort of, uh,

boundary making, uh, community formation and securitization of those boundaries that like you have this image of like this image that's been with humans since the Roman Empire, like, you have this image of, like, this image that's been with humans since the Roman Empire. Even earlier than that, since the fucking Babylonians or whatever. Of roving gangs, roving hordes, like, in the countryside coming through the city walls, streaming in and sacking the village. But in our case, it's not even real. It's entirely fabricated.

It's entirely made up. It's completely fucking, it's fiction. It's just, it's fucking mind boggling. Just like, just like going back, just like truly,

like obviously like any leftist, like you just fantasize about being able to go back in time to talk to marx and be like oh man you wouldn't fucking believe what they believe you wouldn't believe what what they've done with ideology man they are cooking in 23 it's like dude they reinvented the tartars and the like you know the fucking visig. But they're not even real. And he's just like, just bewildered. And I think that there is a kind of real anxiety at the root of this in the sense that I do think that part of what motivates this,

and this is ideology, this is how ideology works, you don't really necessarily realize that you're acting on it consciously, but American birth rates are going down, right? Just like they are all across the West in general. Capitalism is a system that requires eternal growth, not just minimal growth. It has to be pretty robust.

It can't be this 2% growth we're fucking around with. No, it's Mickey Mouse bullshit. We need real expansion, baby. Which means that you have to, like your rates of actual reproduction, biological reproduction, have to keep up with the rate of actual reproduction, biological reproduction, have to keep up with the rate of social reproduction, of the growth, the expansion of the system. And so if less and less people are having kids, you have to source those labor inputs from somewhere.

Where are those going to be? They're either going to be immigrants or they're going to be children so that would make sense why they're fucking passing child labor or repealing child labor laws why they're repealing anti-abortion you know what i'm saying like or while they're while they're repealing repealing abortion uh access and all this it's because like i feel like they're trying to like widen that again i don't think that they're doing this consciously i don't think that they're looking at gdp growth and birth rates and all this stuff i think that it's been kind of like processed through the sausage maker of ideology and this is what's come out the other side yeah in a sense yeah i don't know it's under that same logic it's easy to see how people

could run with the idea of particularly after like you know after the lockdowns were kind of letting up a little bit during covid that people started saying stuff like our human capital stock right talking about us like we were cows like by the same logic that you that if you're a little more conspiratorial thinking it makes sense that under these conditions you could jump to the conclusion that that was a big liquidation event particularly older people that aren't producing as much value

in society in a capitalist society not that older folks don't have anything to contribute that's another thing that happened after the pandemic you had a mass resignation i think they even aren't economists even calling it that like the sort of great resignation that like you like when like yeah like we're yeah a couple weeks after all these late these like people quitting their jobs and stuff like now you could go work what was a minimum wage

job for $15 an hour or something and then it just laid bare everything like oh so y'all were just like making all that shit up about the economic reasons that you can't pay people more I think there's two things here well okay let me just say that like I'm pretty

sure that like five or six million people dropped out of the labor for the workforce after the pandemic a lot of them were people who just retired early who who or who could have retired and were just kind of hanging on and the pandemic they were just like all right fuck it i'm just going then i was like i was at a wedding this past weekend and i was like sitting it was late at night, and I was sitting at the fire crossing this guy who's a small business owner, and he was talking to another guy. I guarantee you, you don't even have to say anything else. I guarantee he said something to the effect of, you just can't find anybody.

Nobody wants to work anymore. Both that, he said, I can't find anybody that doesn't want to work anymore. And employees have too much leverage now. They have the gun to your head. They can bargain for higher wages. Yeah. That's all stuff that came out of the debacle that was COVID. Yeah.

Yeah. That we're all trying to forget, by the way. Didn't happen. None of that two three two three years ago didn't happen we're trying to forget that what do you think that does to a national psyche when like you've got all these fucking material and economic consequences of it but you're also at the same time trying actively trying to forget it what kind of fantasia do you think that fucking hundreds of thousands of people dead. Like the fucking rapture

happened or something. I think a million. Didn't a million people die in America? Didn't we have the highest fatality rate? I think like Italy and some other places, but yeah, we were just brutal. And it's funny that

I hear that. I can't tell you how many times a day i hear somebody say nobody wants to work anymore and it's like who's who's popping that over the loudspeakers like while you're sleeping and doing like subliminal messaging you know i mean it's like america is a society like as a society you know, like the little flickering things they used to put at the top right hand corner of movies. It was like, oh, go get you some popcorn. Go get, you know, it's like subliminal advertising. Right. We are a nation of subliminal advertising.

The funny thing is, is that couldn't be further from the truth. Employment is so fucking high right now that they tried to engineer a recession to make it lower. To make it lower. make it lower yeah oh yeah nobody wants to work anymore so much so that uh they're trying to get people not to work because that's the gun to to the south small business owner's head like that's the fascinating thing you've got two contradictory ideas there i mean is it any wonder that like you got guys like this fucking dixon idiot like you know riding into town like they're murdering baby murdering cartels are coming to kill it's like what the fuck are you talking about stuff this fucker in a locker if i was in fucking lano texas he uh he said by trains planes and automobiles i say we end abortion trafficking in the state of

texas he brought along a laminated map of the state black and red sharpie marking each of the 51 jurisdictions across texas that had passed ordinances to become what he calls a quote sanctuary city for the unborn he hoped lano would be the next place to pass the newest version of the ordinance outlawing abortion trafficking. A director of Right to Life of East Texas, Dixon joined forces with... Okay, so he doesn't even live in Lano. He's just one of these fucking non-profit morons

who works at a make-work non-profit Right to Life ofas who like goes around astroturfing campaigns to get them to pass shit like this in small towns uh oh my god dude uh let's see blah blah blah the texas ordinance has relied on the novel enforcement mechanism that empowers private citizens to sue creating the model for the statewide heartbeat ban that took effect exactly two years ago on September 1st, 2021. Since Roe fell, triggering a new ban that outlawed almost all abortions in Texas, Dixon has changed his strategy. Along with passing ordinances in conservative border towns and Democrat states where abortion providers may look to open new clinics, the team has zeroed in on those helping women leave Texas for abortions,

a practice they call abortion trafficking. Abortion trafficking. Abortion trafficking. While the term trafficking typically refers to people who are forced, tricked, or coerced, Dixon's definition applies to all people seeking abortions because he argues the unborn child is always taken against their will dog no they are not they you are not taken against your will unless you had a will to begin with like dude if i was fucking killed if i was aborted i would not know it you stupid fucking

bastard my first memory is uh the berlin what my or some of my earliest memories the berlin wall coming down which i was like four or five years old when that happened exactly dude you know what i mean like i didn't like that which is further evidence that i think abortion should be legal until a child is three years old. I mean, seriously, dude, like literally, you have to have a will, a sentience to begin with to know that you're going to fucking die. Yeah. I don't even think I was aware that I was going to die until I was, yeah, probably four or five. Oh, my God. until I was, yeah, probably four or five, something like that.

Oh, my God. The law, which has the public backing of 20 state legislators, is designed to go after abortion funds, organizations that give financial assistance to people seeking abortions as well as individuals. For example, Dixon said a husband who doesn't want his wife to get an abortion could threaten to sue the friend who offers to drive her. Under the ordinance, the women seeking the abortion

would be exempt from any punishment. That is... I feel like that is also why these assholes are once again pushing for repeal of no-fault divorce laws. That is another sort of like... Is that one of their pet peeves? Yeah, that's another thing. Yes, they're pushing for the repeal of no-fault divorce.

Incredible. Abortion rights advocates say the ordinance effort is merely a ploy to scare people blah blah blah um while these restrictions appear to violate the u.s constitution they are extremely difficult to challenge in court because the laws can be enforced by any private citizen abortion rights groups have no clear government official to sue in a case seeking to block the law is that what we're coming to walls and every fucking person deputized to implement them? You know what I'm saying?

Won't that eventually run into the police, though, who really insist on their own monopoly? Dude, I want to tell you something. First day I go back to Wattsburg, and one of those little fuckers that hang out at that arcade joint tries to do a citizen's arrest of me, I swear to God I'm going to throw one of those fuckers in the North Fork. Jesus, I've had enough of these motherfuckers.

Jesus fucking Christ. This is why you can't give some people any attention. That's true. Fucking, ugh. When Dixon first came to town to drum up interest, Some people need attention. That's true. Fuck him. Ugh. Um, when Dixon first came to town to drum up interest, Councilwoman Allman was well aware of his endeavors. She'd seen his flyer advertising the effort to protect Lano residents from

abortion across state lines. Um, she's, she said she was thankful when Roe was overturned. A 57 year old former elementary school teacher. She voted twice for trump and says she plans to vote for him again her friends call her a pistol packing mama this is the good person in this story by the way this is the person yeah this is this is the voice a pistol packing mama is the voice raising the story dude i'm gonna tell you something i'm so fed up with the South as a lifestyle brand.

I do, me too. It's just got to fucking go. The gratuitous y'all, all this stupid bullshit. I'm reading this story, or not this story, this book called How Kentucky Became Southern by this woman, Mary Jean Wall, who was a horse racing rider for the Herald-Leader for a number of years but it's it it deals

with with the idea of how kentucky got its characteristics through the lens of horse racing and like the history of it right but like it's a bigger historical thesis and she talks about like basically kentucky was not even a southern state it was kind of thought of as like a western frontier it's like kind of like the idea of Kentucky in the time just before the Civil War was like as this sort of wild backwater where people looked like Daniel Boone, but acted like violently and shit like that. It wasn't like that genteel Southern vibe at all. And after the war, and, you know, I mean,

there's this cliche that kentucky was the only state that sided with the confederacy after it had fallen after the war we decided to cast our lot with the south mostly because to bolster the horse racing industry so we started creating all these myths about like the southern plantation owner and like the colonel sanders archetype right all this it's all a fiction right there was slavery for sure right but like like the idea that like kentucky was like the antebellum south was a fucking is a myth it's a joke i mean it's the fact the fact of its dividedness it's like being torn between two sort of competing visions

of a capitalist future is best embodied in Lincoln. You know what I'm saying? Totally. Totally. Well, I mean, it's interesting that the two guys at bat here in the Civil War, Jefferson Davis and Abraham Lincoln, both Kentucky guys. Both from Kentucky. Yeah.

Yep. Let's see. Since hearing about the proposed ordinance, Allman said she'd been wondering whether Lano really needed to further restrict abortion. She worried the term abortion trafficking was confusing. It sounds like more of a slave situation, she said. It was not clear if some of the proposed ordinance's most ardent proponents in Llano understood what it would do. While the language of the draft ordinance explicitly states that it would apply to people transporting any individual for the purpose of providing or obtaining an elective abortion, said the mayor, Marion Bishop,

the term abortion trafficking did not apply to women who were choosing to get abortions of their own free volition blah blah blah okay um so then we go back to the council meeting the whispers in the back of the city hall grew louder as the crowd realized that allman would not be voting as they had expected laura can't do this by herself said an advocate for the ordinance leaning over to the other people in her row. She needs someone to second. There's still a chance. Then the other woman on the council, Kara Gilliland,

chimed in with her own hesitations. I'm not for abortions, and that's my personal belief, but I cannot sit up here knowing that there are 3,400 other citizens in this town who don't have the same belief necessarily as I do. four of the five members of the city council voted to table the ordinance you can be mad at me if you want to

allman said but i've got to sleep with myself at night coming through the ordinance that morning and when i sleep i trust me i keep that thing on me i'm a pistol pack i'm a pistol packing mama coming through the ordinance that morning, Allman said in an interview she scribbled furious notes in the margins. She feared the law's civil enforcement mechanism would turn members of the Lano community against each other. While she'd supported the implementation of the Texas heartbeat ban, which relied on the same provision,

she said she hadn't given much thought to how that could pit neighbor against neighbor. Now it was her job to peel the layers, and she didn't like where the law could lead. As the city council moved on to other matters, Dixon ushered the angry crowd out to the porch. The ordinance was tabled, he reminded the audience, not dead.

Is this the city council of Austin, or is this the city council of conservative Llano, Dixon said. This is far from over. Show up at their businesses with some signs. I know where Laura works, offered the wife of a local pastor.

Dixon recalled what happened in Odessa, a far larger city in West Texas that failed to advance an earlier version of a sanctuary city. With help from anti-abortion residents he said to the group some of the city council members who opposed the measure were ultimately voted out of office

now odessa odessa has a six to one majority now badusi has a six to one majority that this is in favor of dixon said i can't talk today it's too hot um anyways it goes on to talk about Dixon going to the next town, Mason, Texas, where he also tries to do the same thing, and he succeeds, basically. But that's the end of the story. So, anyways, you know, if you live in Badussi, Texas, be careful. Watch out for these black blazered neck beard guys. Oh, man. Right into town like Paul Revere style.

Oh, man. I just thought I found it to be an interesting story because it got at something that I found to be very fascinating, which was that these assholes, and and again this is a trite point been been reiterated over and over again ever since the midterms last year but i found it to be interesting because it just kind of shows how these assholes all believe in this abstractly right like hypothetically but like when push comes to shove some of them get a little uh they get a little weak in the knees because then they're like oh i supported the heartbeat ban but i didn't realize that it was going to deputize everyone every texas citizen to basically track down a little buyer's remorse right exactly um

and it's just I just find that to be an interesting thing because it just shows how America and I'm just I'm sure it's like this in every western capitalist democracy but it just kind of shows how like America really does like distort and pervert your sense of morality

it just completely turns around it makes you inhuman it like truly malleable too yeah yeah it compels you to do inhuman things and i think that's a very depressing i don't know it brings us kind of full circle to what we were talking about at the beginning but it is like it really compels you to do not just antisocial, but inhuman acts against your fellow man. Yeah. Well, I guess that brings us to the end of the show. I do have something I wanted to address.

Last week we did an episode on the situation at WVU. There have been some updates since then, specifically one that just happened today. This was sent to me by Bethany, who we had on the show last week. She said, today the faculty assembly passed resolutions with greater than 700 votes each of no confidence in gordon gee and asking to freeze the transformation the academic transformation like the whole budgetary process the board of governors released a statement linked below basically saying that they couldn't care less about what the professors think um she said as far as I'm aware, totally disregarding a faculty assembly vote like this is unprecedented at WVU.

Anyways, the statement is astonishing. It says, West Virginia University Board of Governors appreciates the faculty members who shared their perspectives at today's university faculty assembly meeting regarding consideration of a no-confidence for e gordon gee we acknowledge the passage of these votes the board of governors unequivocally supports the leadership of governor president gee and the strategic repositioning of wvu and rejects the multiple examples of misinformation that inform these resolutions. Misinformation. Incredible.

The university is transforming to better reflect the needs of today and we must continue to act boldly. President Gee has shown time and again he is not afraid to do the difficult work required. Jesus fucking Christ, dude. Holy fuck. That is incredible. Misinformation.

What's the misinformation? Act boldly. No, I know. People are losing their jobs. I guess it's a matter of record. It's literally just the facts. There's no fucking misinformation. literally just the facts there's no fucking misinformation um the challenges we are facing right now are not unique to wvu the board is determined to address the challenges head on

oh my god that is insane well as bethany pointed out this is probably unprecedented at WVU. And so I don't know what that means, but basically the Board of Governors is ignoring its faculty. And, you know, as the people who are on the ground actually doing the teaching and instructing and researching, I'd say they probably have a better idea of what the university needs than the Board of Governors. But that's my outside perspective.

Do we know who the Board of Governors are? All I know is the chair, Tanya Willis-Miller, because that's whose email we posted in the show notes of last week's episode. I don't know. We could probably find that out. WVU Board of Governors list. I bet we could find it. I'm sure it's going to be a veritable who's who of Reprehensible swamp scum, but let's just see who's on there

Uh, Tanya Willis Miller, B.O.G. Richard A. Pill He's a pill Oh no, there's not a guy on WWE's board named Pill Dick Pill, his name is Dick Pill His name is Dick Pill Oh shit There's a guy in the blog

Named Dick Pill Dr. Patrice Harris Charles Capito I bet he's related to Shelley Moore Capito Surely right I don't want to fire off at the hip there That's a safe bet retired

managing director dude jesus christ this is brutal so dick pill is a lawyer dr patrice harris co-founder and ceo emed atlanta georgia charles capito retired managing director, complex manager, Wells Fargo advisors, Bray Cray, or Bray Cary, Cary Communications, Elmer Kapusel. Okay, so basically all these people are like, like have a personal interest in seeing WVU change like this. 100%. He's the CEO of the greenbrier um yeah that makes i had a friend tell me that uh her and her dad and her boyfriend went to the greenbrier to

i guess one of her rich relatives or something lives at the greenbrier and she was like yeah i was sitting next to e gordon g. And they're big West Virginia people. And I guess she didn't know what was going on there. I was like, you should have reached over there and just smacked the fuck out of the back of the head. You've got Kevin J. Craig, executive vice president of GP Natural Resource Partners. Michael DiNunzio, president beverage distributors, Inc. Clarksburg, West Virginia, Thomas Jones, retired CEO, West Virginia United Health System. Alan.

Oh my God. You really do have like, it's like the Rincon de Cretinos and the museum of the revolution in Cuba. Just like, uh, you know, It's just so bad. Paul Maddox, business development manager, E.L. Robbins in engineering. Susan Levinsky, CEO, Charles Ryan Associates. Robert Reynolds, president and CEO, Putnam Investments.

Stanley Heilman. Jesus Christ, dog. So bad. investments um stanley heilman uh jesus christ dog so bad man like that's that's depressing that there's not like a single you know like if the founding purpose of a land-grant institution is to provide an education to you know your your working class people your middle class but whatever it is it's like like the makeup of that board of governors in no way reflects like you know they were like grandstanding last week about like uh doesn't reflect uh the values or the makeup of the state. Right. Like, well, how the fuck does that,

does this Board of Governors reflect? You know, it's like the average West Virginia and a fucking Wells Fargo executor. Yeah, like, how does that reflect? Yeah, how are y'all reflecting anything? Yeah. Oh, man. Well, keep up the pressure on these assholes. You know, I just received this.

We're recording this at 3 p.m. on, what even is today? Wednesday, September 6th. So, I don't know. This is a developing situation. So, when you hear this, things may have changed. Probably will have. But regardless, go email dick pill at the very least yeah just heckling

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