Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 330: Wood-Sprite's Tenure

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

We open this week with a tale as old as time: about a man and his unusual proclivities getting him into trouble. Then we switch gears a bit to talk about this week's USA-sponsored atrocities in Palestine Support us on PATREON: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

did you guys see the video um someone who woke up and uh chose violence posted a video of when the chiefs won the super bowl i think like three years ago or four years ago and it was a video of travis kelsey and his girlfriend at the time her name is like kayla nicole i think um and i don't know if y'all saw the video but like you know the the what it was was like it was after the game you know she runs up to him and he's like they share this really passionate kiss and it was kind of a little weirdly tonguey for tv yeah it was disorienting because i thought it was from the other day. I was like, no, my man got caught up. No. I didn't look at the time stamp on it.

I was like, damn, that'd be crazy. He's just making out with another girl. Not just live TV with the Super Bowl. Millions of eyes watching your adultery. But it was obvious that they like loved each other or at least like there was passion right and so as a result there was all these conservatives in the replies who were like wow it's almost like his current relationship is arranged it's almost like these two were meant for each other and it's like that i think i got to something at the heart of

the travis kelsey taylor swift thing more than just being like a conspiracy theory psyop thing i think that conservatives are just kind of catty and they just like to you know just they like to see two people who are good matches for each other yeah yeah nothing to do with conspiracy they're very gossipy i'm thinking of trump man i'm thinking of how trump, you know, he would have these press conferences or rallies where he would just gossip about people that he hates, you know? Yeah. Or people that he knows. You know what I mean?

Yeah, they like to gossip. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. It's like the conspiracy anxiety is masking a deeper anxiety, which is, am I with the right partner? Am I with the right person? I think that's what they're worried about deep down. And they see this and they're like, Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift is a stand in for my crumbling relationship.

And thus my crumbling relationship is a psyop. what it is is that basically conservative anxieties have all the undertones of like i know like a royal court drama yeah you know like from like you know the french you know what i'm saying the french monarchy or some shit like that right yeah i think uh celebrities are just kind of a stand-in for our own neuroses it used to be fictional characters but now it's just like real ass people you know and like and especially weird in a time where everybody is kind of celebrity you know what i mean because of social media and you know building brands and you're following and all this stuff and it's really a fool's errand like the the the best place to be is to occupy a niche at the lower rungs of notoriety. Yeah.

You know what I mean? And that usually means participating in the underbelly. Being a gambler, a pimp, getting into some sort of organized crime. That's a good level of fame to have. Yeah, where you don't have too much on you where your life is constantly at stake where you're paranoid but just enough that you can make the honest level a dishonest living i guess yeah in this or there are other examples more on the more honest and like uh um who has a good level of fame i always thought that i got that the guy who you wanted to be

was chad hugo from the neptunes like that's a perfect level of fame yeah you're like pharrell's second hand you're his side man honestly probably more of the genius behind pharrell's whole thing but you don't have to be out there as the face of it as the face of it you sit there you cash the same checks you know what i mean yeah all this stuff you know in a weird way but there are like super famous people that have done well that's like andre 3000 is very good at despite being very famous not being famous yeah that's true that's maybe that just has to do with him like hanging out at laundromats playing the flute and like him tales of him being like best friends with like old 70 year old white ladies

and stuff like if you turn your aura off you can just you know you can just be you can just slide into the background it's like um i guess it's like uh god i'm trying to i'm forgetting that that parable of that indian prince who leaves you know, leaves the palace and goes among the people. You know what I mean? It's Siddhartha, I think it is, right? Right, right, right. Andre 3000 is Siddhartha is what I'm basically saying. Jean-Michel Basquiat, before he died,

which he died pretty young. I think he died probably his late 20s or maybe early 30s, but I think late 20s. But when he was starting to take off and getting like some notoriety in the art world, which is still a pretty safe bet, honestly. If you want to be famous without being famous, art's a pretty good profession to pick. But when he would hobnob at parties and people would be fascinated by his look

because he would paint in Gucci suits and he had the dreads and all the stuff. And so he'd walk into the party. Yeah, just eternally cool. He'd walk into a party and somebody just uh just eternally cool he walked to a party somebody asked him what he did for a living and he would always say that he managed a mcdonald's just to shut shut the conversation down you know so see that's a good strategy i would say i'm fucking bicycle bro yeah i would yeah i'm not i'm not managing no fucking McDonald's, bitch. Chicken nuggets. Yeah, that's why. You see this?

Jay-Z's going to be copying me in 20 years. Exactly. Everyone's going to be copying me. Right, right. Everybody's going to take my once-in-a-generation art and co-opt it to the point where it becomes annoying through no fault of my own. Well, speaking of a Siddharth, of a prince among the people,

did you guys see this? I feel like a hobby horse of this show used to be perverts. Well, I say that just two weeks ago. Used to be. We had an episode called Perverted Backstabbers. We did. We have been known to cover perverts and backstabbers On the show I found a guy who's in the pervert hall of fame

This is crazy Penn State professor who begged cops to kill him When he was busted in bestiality case Is hit with new charges of lewd acts In park Wait hold up That first part of the headline he said i need to die he said i he said i need to die he said that like when he got caught the

second time when you when you say that i need to, that's how you really know you're a pervert. I actually need to be free from my compulsion. And there's only one way to achieve that, to a final end. Yeah, put down. I have to make the obvious joke, though. It was the bestiality. Was this a late relationship with a pig? No

He was caught like in a bathroom Like 10 years ago Trying to get a dog to lick his anus Jesus man I got a question Come on my guy I've got a question I got a number of questions actually

But like is there some sort of like Worm or Thing in the soil In Where is Penn State? actually. But like, is there some sort of like worm or thing in the soil in where is Penn State? Happy Valley? What is that? Where's that place? I should know this.

Penn State's not the one that's in Ivy. Penn State's the other one. The Joe Pa. Joe Pa. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. One of my good friend's parents teaches there and I'm sad that I'm blanking on this. But in any case. Isn't it just called like College Station or some shit? No, that takes a saying in, but it's something like that.

It's like college something. College College? I'm so dumb. College Town. College Town, Pennsylvania. College Town, PA. College Town. College Town, Pennsylvania.

College Town, PA. So, anyway, I think there might be some sort of mass hysteria thing going on there, but instead of doing whirling dervishes and stuff like that in unison, they're all doing grossly perverted acts. Well, this is the thing. Not even perversions. well this is the thing like not even perversions like a perversion is one thing like depraved this is quite evil evil x this one is this one is very i would say this one's almost whimsical in a way like this one gets very whimsical this one is like you know i um one of the things you're constantly told is that like there is no such thing as human

nature right like human nature is too it's too broad a category too vague or opaque a concept to really apply to humans because we are so varied we start we are so different like uh for example like wolves like when you put them in captivity wolves will develop hierarchies and for the longest time scientists thought i think they've they've debunked that now haven't they have scientists thought that like wolves had hierarchies because they observed them in captivity but in the the wild, they actually don't. So it's like, we've just, we've just attributed alpha like this, this concept of domination and hierarchy upon an animal.

That's just chilling out in the wild. Right. Like every guy, every guy that like looks like thinks he's like really jacked, but looks insanely stupid to the point where he can't wear like a normal suit. You know what I mean, has been basing his whole worldview on this faulty idea that,

oh, well, in nature, there's one that rises to the top. But in actuality, nature is much more egalitarian. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, and so it just begs all these other questions of, like, all these other questions of like uh what what are these natural and unnatural impositions we put on uh other animals on ourselves like can we even really study the true nature of ourselves like if we uh are under the guiding influence of of a social system like capitalism for example or even of a social system like communism like who knows right like who even knows what true human nature is however it does seem however the demarcated line

it does seem that there are some people who do exhibit some very quirky and interesting signs of sexual perversion. And they have to act these out in such a way as to bring great shame upon themselves. And then beg for death. This is like decadence to the level of like, you know, a collapsing Roman Empire type of decadence. You know what I mean? This is how you know society is collapsing. It is Nero-esque behavior, you know? It wasn't Nero that would like...

It truly is. You know, he would like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, wait till you hear the details of this. Because his most recent act is even more insane than the dog licking act came out with a sequel better and better than ever okay hold on so so so so he gets caught on the hiking trail trying to fuck the dog no and he and he has topped that in terms of depravity he has topped it he's topped this one, I think, is a victimless crime.

So the dog thing is a victimless crime. Okay, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. It has topped that in terms of depravity. However, you think this is a victimless crime largely.

Yes. I cannot wait to hear this shit. You got to reconcile that contradiction. I think this one's mostly a victimless crime, okay? Because, like, a dog doesn't really know, like, if you make it lick your ass. Like, the dog doesn't know why that's bad, right? I mean, like, yeah. Like, we talk about consent. Dogs lick asses all the dog doesn't know why that's bad right i mean like yeah like dogs lick asses all the time but normally that dog would it was like what you were saying earlier terrence naturally

from naturally that dog wouldn't be a dog would be a fucking wolf because it'd be a wolf but it's should it be a wolf turned into a dog licking your ass and like you know what i mean that's fundamentally unnatural how far they have fallen from wolves like not only do we make them like you know little 12 inch long cops like pocketbook sized but now make them cops no actually it's not it's not just being a dog it's not it's like we have imposed so much on these poor creatures we have truly they're not they are they're beasts and they still love us unconditionally even though we've warped them into all kinds of mutants and everything else they're no longer physical beast of burden they're

like emotional psychic beast of burden they either absorb our anxieties or our perversions they really are i think the pug was basically invented by a guy that was really paranoid terrified of everything and that's why they look like that you know yeah oh man oh man so what's so what's this act now i will have to know what he do what do you do you can't leave his head you have to know oh my god are you already tapping out tom you not want to know i think you want to know this guy's the giacomo casanova of public and decent beast yeah in public parks for some reason he has to do this in public parks in like state parks recreation why does he teach at penn state check curiosity

i think he's like a chemical engineering professor oh Is that a zoology professor or some shit? It would be crazy and quirky. That makes sense, right? Like, when I read that, I was like, that makes total sense. If I found out he was like an English professor, I'd be like, okay, now we're cooking. This is very interesting. Yeah, yo. I want to see what he has in his diary.

Probably some really twisted macabre shit, yo. I have to know. Yeah. Okay. this diary probably some really twisted macabre shit you know i have to know yeah um okay an award-winning pinstate professor arrested oh i'm sorry award okay i have to say something i have to say something okay i don't care if you've won a goddamn gram, an Oscar, and an ESPY in the same year. If you get caught trying to fuck a dog in a public park, I don't think you lead with award winning. Like that comes second.

You know what I mean? You get to keep your awards despite all the... I'm not trying to take his accolades from him. What I am saying is that that's not the most noteworthy thing about his life anymore. Perversion does not strip you of your accolades from him what i am saying is that like that's not the most noteworthy thing about his life anymore perversion does not strip you of your accolades my friend i would i would go a step further even better i would say that in this case you know whenever like you know um a white dude kills like uh you know a family you know whatever and they're like they post it's like the beef they post a picture of him on like a jet ski smiling with his family. And it's like, I think this is, this is equivalent. You're right.

This is equivalent. Right. If it was like a homeless guy, they would, they would try to like church, you know, add all the details that make him look like a, you're exactly right. Well, it's, it's like, it's like when people people talk about gary glitter they don't talk about his music career first anymore you know what i mean uh-huh okay so you're saying that like after a certain point we can no longer separate the art from the artist at a certain point no no no no no no i i think you know you sent me that vultures review this morning, the Pitchfork one? Yeah. I think that is exactly the way you handle these things.

I think that guy, I don't judge art based on moral grounds, political grounds, anything. Just is it good or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does it slap or does it not? Well, we need to take a look at his chemical engineering theories and his rotation. Let's see what his professional body of work tells us about. Can we separate the man from

the act? God forbid a man have hobbies. Right. We're going to find he invented napalm or something. And then it's actually that has triggered his perversions. He's like, actually, I need to be put to death.

Not because I tried to fuck a dog, but because I invented napalm. But what if it was like, if you're a chemical engineer, so you're probably, if you're a chemical engineer, you're probably doing like one of two or three things. You're either trying to create like hydrocarbons, like fuel alternatives. That's one. Two, you're trying to like make materials like plastics like polymers polymers and shit like that and then like three i guess maybe you're working in the oil industry or something or or weapons yeah or like yeah you're making like nothing good comes from you that listen unless you're building like beautiful buildings for like

multi you know like family housing and and and public housing and stuff like that nothing good comes from an engineering degree no that's true that's true yo it's to think about that we've turned certain professions and careers which are honorable and notable like you know in a vacuum and we've just made them like we've made them death jobs you know like yeah we either proletarianize them or like sold them out to uh you know uh just the most evil people in the world and their profit-driven motives and their perversions um okay an award-winning penn state professor arrested in a sickening bestiality case faces more charges after videos emerged of him allegedly engaged in lewd acts. There's video.

Lewd acts in a park, including inserting a tree branch and a lollipop in his butt. Oh, come on, dog. Don't you think that's... Bro, okay, I agree with you. I agree with you. That is a... There's no animals involved here that is a victimless crime it's when it's whimsical when the tree was violated come on dog

trees do communicate aaron they do communicate yeah but they're not our best friends well i think i guess technically they are if we cut them all down we would all die but why'd you make them sound like those big trees in Lord of the Rings? He said they're not our friends. Yes, he inserted an ent's finger in his ass. That is a crime. I don't like this. Wait, he did what now?

The tree? The ent, yeah, he put Mary and Pippin, and he put his little twig fingers up their butt and carried them to Mordor like that. We're going to Mordor. Like how you have those little finger puppets. That's how they talked. They were like, this is how we make decisions.

I am a tree. Okay, Themis Matsoukas. He's Greek. This kind of makes sense. Oh, I thought that was the name of the tree. It's the genus. It's the genus. Yes, no.

Themis Matsoukas, 64, was already facing charges of open lewdness, indecent exposure, sexual intercourse with an animal, and animal cruelty after police said he'd been seen on video involved in sexual acts with a pet collie. The chemical engineering professor begged troopers to kill him while saying the sex acts helped him blow off steam. I'm so sorry. It's so funny. Beg the cops to kill you. Oh, this is nuts. I didn't even see this.

They included videos of the professor naked apart from a ski mask. He was totally naked. Except for a balaclava. So you just happened upon this guy in the woods with a lollipop and a tree branch in his ass, and he's wearing nothing but a balaclava. Listen, he was captured on... Dude, this goes crazy.

My man went rampant in this state park. This story is killing me, dude. Dude, he went rampant in this state park. This story is killing me, dude. Dude, he went rampant in this state park. He went crazy. There's only three feet of difference between this behavior and Kanye's shit. I could see Kanye doing that in a video or something. Yeah, he was captured on video masturbating on a picnic table in a lake at the park and on Pennsylvania Department of Conservation

and Natural Resources vehicles. He jerked off on park tables, vehicles. Well, technically his tax dollars paid fund to all of that shit, so you can get the jizz wherever you want to, brother. Listen, Aaron, you're not wrong about that. I can't overlook the dog stuff. That's not good. But listen, I mean, my man's a taxpayer.

No harm, no foul here, in my opinion. Now, like, is he doing this in front of people? It seems like. Or is he just caught on a trail cam? I think it was like on a Tuesday afternoon, probably. Everybody was at work. He had the day off. He was like, I'm going to go jerk off on every single thing.

On everything. The man loves nature, yo. He loves nature. That's gotta be... That is some... So, like, this raises all kinds of questions, right? Like, does... It truly... Because, right, like, for him to, like, orgasm, like, more than

ten times in this... Yeah. You know what I'm saying'm saying like was it the sheer thrill of being out in yeah is it a voice is it a voyeuristic thing or is it like some kind of um metaphysical connection with nature it's like you know what i mean is he so thrilled and excited to be out there that's exploding with joy all those people you know like people were like, I'm pansexual. What are the people that like nature like that? Oh, there is a name for it. Biosexual?

Yeah, there is a name for it. You know, like there's sapiosexual, all this stuff. You know what I mean? What is that? That's what's fun here. Arborosexual? Well, this is... Let me just continue with the details here, because there's several different things going on.

Matsukas was also seen climbing a tree while naked and inserting a tree branch, a Tootsie Pop, and the control handle of a DCNR John Deere crawler in his anus. Wait, wait, what? Wait, like the joystick at a crawler like the yes like the joy like the gear shifter you imagine being the guy that operates this shit opening the paper and reading that shit and you look at your hand you're like oh my god what have i done what has he done what has he eaten

this man is the wildest motherfucker i've ever heard of he also allegedly defecated in public areas of rothrock state forest and in a maintenance area yeah well he should that's fine. Like, that's, you know, but then he smeared bodily fluids on a glass table at a lease camp. This was at Allen Seeger State Park. Matsoukas was charged with two- Okay, this is why you said largely a victimless crime.

You're right. Like, if you are the john deere operator yes you are or you the poor bastard's gotta clean this pervert shit up and shit and come up no um huntington county d.a dave smith suggested monday that no additional charges are expected. To my knowledge, we're satisfied that the investigation is complete. Michael, just creep up. We're going to actually bring in Professor Matt Sukas, and we're going to euthanize him. We just decided to put him down. He is now a ward of the state, and we're going to like, you know, like when you put down an old dog or a cat or something, they like put their paws on the little thing.

They give you all these little keepsakes. They're going to do the same thing with Matsoukas. Just get a little handprints and like stuff to hang up at Penn State. Dr. Matsoukas was euthanized yesterday. He was too depra deprived to be alive. No, it's like when you go into the vet and they have the light or the candle on,

it's like, if the light or the candle is on, that means someone is saying goodbye to their pet, so please respect their privacy and give them silence. Every university, because I assume that most professors are like this. Most university professors are like this.

So you're going to walk into any university department and if the light is on, the civil engineering professor who... He's being put down for being too depraved. Yeah, who went in and put the Pac-Man handles at the arcade in his ass.

We had to euthanize him. We had to. The disgraced academic has written multiple books, published dozens of journal articles, and won at least three teaching awards, including the premier teaching award from the Penn State Engineering Alumni Society. Okay, then we go into his previous acts previous all that up putting up man that's crazy yeah um you know like you know there is a thing like you know when when you're horny you like all

your synapses short circuit you will do anything you'll do it i mean it's just like it's a curse it is a curse you know that's like we don't talk about it enough amongst ourselves how, like, one day we will be free, and that day will be when we're dead. Which is something Professor Matsoukas knew instinctively when he implored the police to please kill me. I need to die. I cannot go on like this. Let me read you the exact quote. This is what he said when he was arrested.

I'm done. I'm done. I'm dead. You don't understand. I do it to blow off steam. What do I have to do to get you to shoot me? I need to die. Dude, this is the most, honestly, yo, I got to give it to this guy, man, because on some real, like, subconscious level, right? Like, he is just doing what, not what, what i mean i wouldn't do that right but remember we were talking about whimsical

activities like in an age of decadence when people are losing their minds instead of shooting up a mall or a movie theater right yeah like this this he he literally is cracking and splintering you know he just like either death or you know not on a picnic table brother you know what i mean like that's the thing like i would like to know what his internal it's like there was a there was an essay written in the 1970s that was very influential called what is it like to be a bat and the premise was like humans will never know we'll never know what it's like to be a bat uh because there is this psychological gulf right like we can't even understand the epistemology the ontology

of a bat in the same kind of Batman dresses up as a bat but he will never be exactly the same kind of applies here because I need to know like what his internal like monologue how does he see the world like is he at the park and he's just going from like object to object like everything like a dog yeah just like so whimsical she's like i'm gonna stick this up my ass fuck it i'm gonna take this up i'm gonna jerk off in this for like a few brief hours he was completely liberated and free brother he was free free. I mean, he said it himself. I need to do it to blow off steam. He was just blowing off steam. It's kind of like, what's that quote from Fight Club, Tyler Durden, that all those lame dudes used to say?

It's like, it's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything. And with the dog incident, he lost anything. So now he's just wild you know that's what the movie they need to make a it's not fight club it's fuck club and it's guys just go and they just do victimless degenerate acts victimless degenerate acts also i'm i'm worried about this guy though you should not be sticking tree twigs up your butt like that should not does not say my deal no you shouldn't be you can you can catch something brother no and also it's just just splintering exactly there's like there's a lot of things you can stick up your ass and and the don the john deere joy is like god knows i have take it from an expert take it from an expert

but maybe i don't know maybe maybe he knows something i don't maybe like the woody not knotted yeah maybe the gnarled wood like maybe the grooves maybe like yeah like you know what i mean maybe it's like a like a textured condom or something like that yeah yeah you're right you know i mean this is why uh you know if he lived in a society where people weren't forced you know uh coerced you know to do things you know just to survive then uh and we could all be free you know it's like that marx quote whatever you know yes wait fish for i always fuck quotes up there but what fish eight hours a day or write a poem to even some shit like that yeah yeah yeah yeah but instead uh just uh acts of the bestiality is not cool but the victimless um we have to give that a name arboreal arboreal sexuality arboreal promiscuousness i

don't know yeah well that's okay well this is another thing i was thinking about because that has to be an added element here which is that like he could have stuck a tootsie roll up his ass at home you know what i mean like that's something you can do at home like a twig that might be a little more tough because maybe you're looking for like an oak or an ash or sycamore twig you you know god knows what if you put a shag bark some of these not gonna end great for you you know like this is this is i'm a naturalist in the sense that I can identify trees based on how unpleasant it would be to stick one up your ass. Be looking at them like, no, that's bad right there. For example, a beech tree is very smooth, so that might be fine.

That might be okay. That might be cool. Oh, man. Nah, man. I think this guy, I'm worried about him man you know i think this is a perfect story actually that encapsulates uh this age of decadence that we have you know and just insanity you know what i mean uh-huh yeah i mean i i i trying to like dissect it because like there's a few details obviously that like again like i

can't stop thinking about like the john deere gear shifter like you are like that actually again that might feel fine because you're you you i guess you kind of get to grind yeah you can kind of grind on it does it does it move around in the joint like you know what i mean? Can you ride it? Is it flexible? You'd think an engineer would know the answers to these things. That's why he had to test them out.

He was doing science. This was the scientific method. He was just testing out various anal drugs. What happens if I put this tree mark up my ass? Hmm. Now, I will say this, having made love a number of times at Fish Pond Lake

and broad daylight, but away from prying eyes, it is about one of the more freeing feelings in the world. It is! It really is. It's liberating. It really is. Bucking in the woods, shitting in the woods, pissing in the woods. Pissing in the woods is a great feeling. I mean, anything to fucking in the woods shitting in the woods yes the pissing in the woods is a great feeling i mean anything dude the woods like science because instincts are

well i won't say they're good this sometimes maybe they should be restrained but this does have an element of like post-industrial decay to it though like it does have a cormac mccrial decay to it, though. It does have a Cormac McCarthy element to it. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, 300 years in the future, the John Deere, the broke-down, decrepit John Deere husks at state parks will just be occupied by various perverts. You'll be walking along the road with your child in the post-apocalyptic landscape, and you'll open the John Deere trailer thinking, we'll find warmth here, and there will be a pervert in there. You'll be the skeleton of a pervert on top of the gear shed.

On top of the gears. He'll tumble out when you open the door. I used to have a recurring dream that my school bus driver, I won't say his name because in real life he's a great man, but I used to have this recurring nightmare when I was a kid that my school bus driver popped up in my bedroom and tried to molest me with his face painted up like a clown. Oh, my God.

And every time I would get on the bus, I'd kind of look at him sideways. You know what I mean? Even though he ain't had nothing to do with that. I don't know, man. Look, take it from me. He might have had something to do with it. There's a reason you had the dream. Wait, Tom.

What if one day you got on the bus, the bus door is open. Like, he was facing out the window. It was like Halloween. Yeah. Yeah, he turns towards you, you ain't clown makeup on. Came by later with his kids. This might be the most degenerate episode we've done. Yeah, I think so.

Hey, let's move on to something else. This is weighing on me spiritually. I need to wash off the mucus and muck and slime and blood and guts and tree bark. You can feel the viscera from this story. Like, you can feel it. In summary, in summary, I think this, and I have no idea what Professor Matsoukas' family looks like,

but my hunch is that he doesn't have one, and thus proving Woody Harrelson in True Detective Season 1's maxim that past a certain age, a man without a family can be a bad thing. Well, look, I just looked him up on Rate My Professor, and he's got pretty good ratings on here. He's got 89%. He likes to fuck dogs, but otherwise he's fantastic. Yeah, all this shit, I don't fuck with, but otherwise, yeah.

Look, he cares about his students, and you can tell he's very invested in the course. The course was very organized. He clearly cares about his students in the topic um yeah no i mean 89 said they'd take his course again yeah he got pretty he got good good marks someone said he's a gym he's a what a gym g-e-m a gym a gym oh a gym. Okay, cool. So, I mean, that's the thing, man. People are so very, like, there's the spectrum of human experience, right? There are cathedrals with those of us with eyes to see. If LeBron James suffered from the same compulsions and we wrote about that do you think we would refer to

him as like you know the greatest of all time NBA champion or do you think like how much do you have to achieve and succeed in life to have to not have the depraved thing that you did one time like the the lead I think I think once um I think it just goes back to once. It doesn't matter what it's for. Once someone gives you a shiny medal or an award, like a plaque, it doesn't matter for what. Then you probably achieve that status.

You think you've got one depravity in the bank. I've achieved that equals the most weird base sexual thing that it's been on my mind i mean that's why you know that's why i'm uh striving to be successful myself so i can engage in the most depraved acts ever and not have it erased at all from memory you know man i'm just trying to find out if he has a family man i'm just trying to find out if he has a family yo for some reason when you said family that didn't even factor into my mind that this guy

had relations that he came from a human woman a person you know what i mean that he like like i was just this guy he's like a forest nymph yeah. Yeah, this guy's a wood sprite. Masquerading as an engineering professor. That is true. He probably is, and they gave him a professorship. This is why you don't give professorships to wood sprites. Come on. This is why you can't force the constraints of our modern world onto ancient deities, brother. Exactly.

It doesn't work. Exactly. You can't give a wood sprite tenure too much responsibility for them to handle they act out in some very weird ways yo i just imagined walking past a conversation and hearing what you just said like as a fragment just be like dude well i've yeah well anyways okay let's let's go to the next topic the next video that's emerged this week did you guys see the video of the police officer who an acorn fell on his car and he thought it was a gunshot and so he did like three barrel rolls

and unloaded his entire uh do you guys see? You talk about a man that needs to die. If anyone needs to die. Like, that's too, yeah, that's too dated. And that's saying something when I'm booking that with a guy that, you know, molests animals. That this guy is just too much much to live mm-hmm yeah nothing to really say about that video I just did anybody get hit well I'm sure would have been oh he loaded an entire clip at a guy in like mist every single the stormtrooper shit and not a single one landed not a single one landed? Not a single one landed.

And like... It's like a cartoon. The guy just shows up looking like Swiss cheese, but he's still alive and he's not hitting anyone. Like all of his holes have... all of his clothes have holes, but yeah, he's not here. This is the thing. I used to live in a cabin with a tin roof

and like you'd constantly be getting... Well, and also The house I currently live at There's a walnut tree And those walnuts dude when they fall Will be loud as fuck Sometimes they'll fall like on the carport But like never once have I thought

That that's like a gunshot Well but you also weren't in Vietnam So But also Terrence you're not bitch baiting You also are not a dog And also weren't in Vietnam. But also, Terrence, you're not bitch baiting. You also are not a dog and have never been in Vietnam. True. Good point. Literally, that's like cat-ish behavior.

You know what I mean? Like loud noise, I'm spooked. But instead it's the guy with the gun. Right. Okay. spook them right but instead it's the guy with the gun right um okay uh in other videos that have thoroughly unnerved people this week did you guys watch the john stewart video of him talking about joe biden's age i watched like i watched the clip of it and i know everybody's uh been having this uh revelation once again that uh you know john stewart is a is a guy that of it and i know everybody's uh been having this uh revelation once again that uh you know john stewart is a is a guy that hits it both sides but i couldn't watch it man because

i felt like i would get transported to like 2006 or some shit dude in my sister's basement watching that shit you're ready to become a liberal again exactly like i thought i'd be a liberal you know it's like videodrome but for liberals yeah yeah well it was interesting i didn't watch it until just right before we started recording and and i was amazed at how tame and mild it was um and also at how like genuine he was like you know john stewart for all of his flaws can be very genuine when he insincere when he needs to be but i guess what i just found so amazing about it was yes the freak out that it invoked that it caused on on twitter the same people who liked him when he was on the daily show like 20 years ago and he was making

fun of george w bush the same people who went on his show are now saying that but yeah it's continued it's just funny you know you're right like because like during the obama years he would he would be very critical of obama and um but it is it is just a very uh it's just very indicative i guess of the kind of corner the libs have painted themselves into where it's like this truly is as you know john stewart points out like you know the barbarians are at the gate etc etc etc um but like i don't know i even read an article by what was it um not thomas friedman who's the other guy at the new york times uh krugman um who i think the gist of it was um why i am now deeply worried for america and uh he's only now

deeply worried yeah and welcome to the club motherfucker but why why why is he why is why is he deeply worried is he coming around around to Jon Stewart's way of thinking? No, the opposite. He is saying that it doesn't matter about Biden's age. It doesn't matter if the special counsel didn't decide to prosecute him because he's an elderly, enfeebled man. None of this matters. The only thing that matters is beating Trump, et cetera, et cetera.

You know what I mean? It's just that it just gets at something. When we started started recording this i'm glad i opened with the perversion the sexual perversion acts because like i was in a really i have been in a very dark place the last few days and um part of the reason why is like the endless recursion of everything with increasingly higher stakes every time so it's like you open up you you log on right uh louisiana wetlands are on the verge of collapse the amok you know climate stream in the west coast is on the verge of collapse uh everything is filled with either microplastics or lead um you see a snuff film you see a video of idf soldiers like celebrating in a palestinian's home you see what i can't even bring myself to watch anymore this this one is the one type of video

that i i just cannot numb myself and desensitize myself to but the press conference videos with like matthew miller yeah and john kirby they my teeth i've noticed that i've been grinding yes like subconsciously without thinking about it i i can't do it anymore because i feel like i'm gonna burst the fucking blood vessel dude i just yeah i want to tell you guys something i want to scout both of those motherfuckers like i'm telling you like i want to hold them down by the hair of the head and cut the top of their heads heads off they'd hold it up for aldo rain style you know it might be too kind it might be too kind we should at least put the you know do the nazi this foster comb their forehead like yeah yeah

if you sit out here and you've parroted these like zionist talking points and stuff like you need to be marked somehow yeah you you are you are you are carrying water for a genocide is what you're doing yeah yeah it's it's just insane well and the again the endless recursion of it the immobility of those like i don't know why the press conference videos are the are the ones that like really just get under my skin so fucking bad because you know that you're looking i I mean, at least for me, like, I know this is a person, right? Like a human being, scientifically speaking, with a heart, you know, with a brain, you know, like two sets, four sets of limbs, all that shit. With two stomachs and udders, three hearts, horns, a human. Poor titties.

Poor titties that go around the body. Some kind of endocrine system that's never been seen on this side of the galaxy maybe a bit of camouflage but no seriously they're fucking aliens yo they don't seem like people it's just hard to comprehend how you can just sit up there and say that shit you know it's about that shit i don't know man no i think you're i think what it is is like what makes it so frustrating is the you know surprisingly like the press core the reporters in these press conferences are very good i think they very they are not i'm sure there are some that are probably fox news reporters and they're sent in but a lot of the ones that come across my

feed are very good and like they very carefully and thoughtfully and thoroughly like dissect all of the various inconsistencies and contradictions in these statements of the united states and point them out and it just goes nowhere it just that nothing happens they just say the same three sentences they just stonewall the especially the matthew miller guy like he'll like grin and almost kind of get like a certain kind of thrill out of it it's almost manic but you know what terence can i just say that's a really good point because this is an example of journalism doing what it's supposed to be doing yeah and you expect a result out of that that they're cornered and they're going to have to admit to something right yeah

the the the biden representatives but they don't so it makes it disorienting not even disillusioning but almost disorienting you know yeah you're exactly right because like ostensibly you would think that if the press and these institutions functioned not even the institution but the dynamic the basic dynamic at the heart of what they consider to be the democratic project if that dynamic function properly yes they would point these out the person being asked the question would be on their heels they would have to account for it but that's not what is happening here there's just some fundamental breakdown some systemic like

rupture or like short-circuiting that occurs where they just cannot, they either will not or cannot account for any of it in a way that makes sense. Sometimes you get some very bizarre results. Did you guys see this week John Kirby basically saying that the IDF was a more careful and better military than America's military? Hey, John, thanks. I just want to circle back to my colleague, I think it was Nadia, asked a few minutes ago about the civilian casualties. And you said Israel has been receptive to your concerns.

And for months, we have heard people at that podium talk about the civilian deaths always too high. It was too high five thousand ten thousand fifteen thousand around 28 000 people have been killed what does the weight of space the assessment that israel is receptive to its concerns as i said we have seen them take actions sometimes actions that that even i'm not sure our own military would take did y'all see that this is a rear this is a rear admiral saying that. Was John Kirby a rear admiral?

Yeah, he was a rear admiral. I can't even say that. A rear admiral. Like a rural juror. A rear admiral? They should just make it one word. Rear admiral. You're right. That is insane, Tom. A former military man

saying that IDF has a better military than the United States. Something is going on here. They objectively do not have a better military than the United States. These guys, you remember that movie, Taken, Liam Neeson? Of course you have. You've probably seen it 300 times. These IDF guys look like that guy with the really like kind of perverted facial hair that guard the chic that buys his daughter into slavery all these motherfuckers running around like

epically shaving with like uh you know like a big knife and all that kind of stuff yeah smoking like cuban cigars and stuff i'm gonna be honest with you I think God would forgive you if we just murdered all those guys. Seriously. I think it's morally reprehensible. You know? Was it Canada Bill Jones that said it's immoral to let a sucker keep his money? It's also immoral to let an IDF soldier keep their life. That's true.

Unless their disability check is causing mass drag on the Israeli economy. But also, too, I mean, like, he's also saying this about, like, an army that routinely, what, staffs, like, 19-year-olds as, like, colonels and shit like that. This is not a serious fucking army. It's not a serious fucking arm of any consequence no deeply and serious this is the potent can village of militaries and you're saying this is the most this is so weird it's so fucking weird man all right yeah well this this is what gets at the weirdness because there was a sort of brief controversy this week over i don't even know once again as a twitter discourse you don't really know where they

originate sometimes you know they're somewhere back there in the ether but like by the time it's gotten to you the argument the discourse has become so like mangled and you know tacked on to all these other things like it's just like a big fucking wad of like bubble gum it's like roadkill basically looking at bloody guts and yes shit yeah like roadkill that's been run over like 300 times yes but like i saw inklings of of a discourse around like someone had written an article about what explains biden's allegiance to israel is the fact that his, some of his, he has a X,

Y, Z amount of Jewish donors and all this other stuff. And people were saying like, no, this father wasn't his father from Israel too. Didn't he say that? His father was in it. My dad,

my dad absconded to Israel. Fought the Egyptians. absconded to israel after the you know um fought the egyptians the discourse around this was that like it kind of reproduces some like anti-semitic tropes and i kind of agree like who knows right if he's got xyz number of jewish donors that doesn't axiomatically mean they support israel even though they probably do and that also doesn't axiomatically mean they support Israel, even though they probably do. And that also doesn't mean that he, that's the reason he is wedded to Israel. However, I do... That's what this is all supposed to do, too, right?

This is all supposed to engender anti-Semitism. Yeah, yeah. Like, that's why, so that's the lifeblood this whole fucking genocidal project runs on. So if they can engender that, they can always have something to point to. Yeah. So like, yeah. I do think you're right.

I do think the extent to which that has not been fully absorbed by a lot of people is kind of astonishing. Like, I think that's a great point. Like, I don't think people have fully internalized, like fully absorbed that basic fact. have fully internalized like fully absorbed that basic fact that the main goal the main like uh mission raison d'etre somebody somebody somebody in the comments on patreon said we have raisin rate do it yeah i can't do it yeah they told us the thing they told us the right i'm still gonna say yeah the raison d'etre Of a lot of these Hasbro accounts and Proxy institutions in the United States

Is quite literally To foster anti-semitism Like that is the point Israel is the biggest exporter of anti-semitism In the world Yeah yeah yeah I mentioned that last week but if you look at Theodore Herzl's Letters to the mayor of Gaza at the time Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mentioned that last week, but if you look at Theodore Herzl's letters

to the mayor of Gaza at the time, he's tried, I mean, it's not meaningfully different from protocols of the elders of Zion. Yeah. But he's saying this as a good thing, like a net positive for the Palestinian people. Oh, well, I read this article in the New York Times today. California's push for ethnic studies

runs into the Israel-Hamas war. The state's high school students will be required to take the subject, but some object to how the discipline addresses the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. So, like, they basically say that it's anti-Semitic to say that Palestine was colonized after World War II and that the Nakba happened. Basically, yes, it's anti-Semit and that the Nakba happened. Basically, yeah, it's anti-Semitic that the Nakba happened. But then they said that it's also anti-Semitic

that they don't teach Zionist texts. And it's like, do you really want them to? Like, I mean, the Zionist texts literally say that they colonized. They would only confirm, it would only prove you wrong, you know what I mean? Like, okay, actually we should do that then, you know that that's that's actually what amazes me dog is that like whether it's you

know uh uh zionist themselves or i mean i guess like if you're support if you're supporting someone who's a zionist or advocating for you are a zionist yourself as well but it's just like they act like you can't just i've mentioned before, you can't just look up on your phone. You know what I mean? Like what Theodore Herschel himself has said. What they're banking on is this post-Trump era where like I can read the fact myself, but like it doesn't matter. Yeah. Because all you have to do is say louder than me that I'm wrong or whatever, you know. or whatever.

And it's just like, what they're trying to do is just capitalize on a moment where up is down, down is up, to just rewrite their history in such a way that it's not so... Or, in some cases, I see they just plow through it and just don't give a fuck.

Yeah, they're like, we need a second knock, but it happened. We need to complete what the first one set out to do. That was part of what was so insane about the raid on Rafah during the Super Bowl. I think like something like 60 or 70. I'm sure the death toll has gone up by this point. Palestinians were killed in this and two hostages were rescued and i saw people like online saying that like um they they they were genuinely mad that people had

pointed out that like 90 palestinians had been killed in this they were like but we got two hostages back and it like perfectly demonstrated like the calculus of how devalued dude like literally that that i mean literally that one israeli life right is worth 100 palestinian lives it's fucking insane you know what i mean that's just like and they don't view that as any sort of like well of course right i know expect all of us to go along with that i know that's dude that's that's why i mean people pointed this out before right but that's why all of this hasbara shit like all the stuff that's like like obviously for american audiences it's like yo do you realize like how depraved and psychotic you sound like

you don't they don't at all you know it's like what do you what do you what do you mean that this was our land and what do you mean the children as well are responsible the children are every palestinian it's just like do you understand that when you say that and i mean i'm saying it's from america right the belly of the beast right you know most racist country in the world but it's just like even to americans right i think that if i can say i think that sounds like insane you know it sounds ridiculous man well yeah i mean more than half americans support you know ceasefire and support Palestinians and things. So it's like, you know.

Yeah. I guess the reason why I'm like, I don't really think that we can even fully fathom the scale of how bad it is. Like, truly, like, the famine, for example. Like, the mass hunger. Like, there's like, the raid on this nasser medical center this morning it was one of the last hospitals left in the entire gaza strip do people not realize that the entire fucking area one of the last hospitals left by the way this happened like the day after some protesters walked by mount sinai hospital in like what was it toronto or something like that it's like you know what i mean like justin trudeau like uh made a

tweet about how disrespectful this was and how hospitals are places for healing and everything this happens literally like the same day that israel raids another hospital and basically raises it to the ground i mean i don't know a hospital i mean i'm just shaking my head and just speechless i mean i i don't know a hospital man it's just down like what they're they're doing this is like they're doing this crazy they're doing the eric andre hannibal burris uh gunshot meme but war yeah exactly exactly yeah why would hamas do this like we killed we just killed yeah hundreds of people in this right whatever why would hamas do this why would hamas yeah you know it's it's so fucking mad why would hamas build tunnels under under a

kindergarten under an orphanage under a hospital right you know under a baby formula factory i mean just all of these i mean it's almost if it wasn't if it wasn't so grave it would only it would be like like absurdly like satirical almost you know it's just it's insane well i think that like i guess that kind of gets at the insanity or inanity absurdity of the press conferences because i mean i don't you remember like just two months ago one of those fucking vox morons was like liberal zionism is back in a big way it's coming back like praising it like yeah basically just like saying like this this which was a hilarious further from the truth exactly it's a hilarious take to say it's just

like of all the ones on the table of all the worldviews and like ideologies on the table that was liberal zionism's time to shine again yeah it's fucking done son it's done brother if anything i think this this what's happening right now is proof that it's done yeah yeah what's it's it's collapsed the distance between the libs and the conservatives on some of these, I don't know, like attempts to manage various contradictions so that like you do have. We've pointed it out before and it feels trite, but it's hard to like really convey the sort of severity of it and the urgency of it but like truly the libs have just stepped in as the fascists and and so that's the thing it's like you're reading like krugman right like why i'm afraid for american democracy and we're gonna let joe biden's um declining cognition and the

israeli hamas quote-unquote conflict get in the way of of the most important election of our lifetimes and allowing donald trump to destroy democracy and it's like it looks like it's already destroyed brother it's fucking done like the fact that the fact that you are you are uh advocating for a corpse right like a near corpse right like to be that it doesn't matter that all we need actually is like a dead cold body in the president's chair. As long as we like liberals never ask themselves, why has it gotten to this moment? Right. Yeah. Are they themselves complicit? Right. In in this in this fact that, as they say, this is the most important election of our lifetimes. Why does why is it always always is, you know, it always is. It's always going to be the most important election.

It always is. It always is. It's always going to be the most important election. Do you think anybody's ever looked at an election and said, like, it's in that world, in the electioneering world, and it's just like, you know, like, this is just kind of a mid-range election. This is a mid-range election. Honestly, this is kind of an inconsequential one.

It's mid. Nobody's ever billed an election that way. But if it's the most important election of our lifetime that suggests that there was a least important election of our life that's true it was maybe the least that is true man my brother that means that we are all getting more and more insane as we all get older yeah no wonder i'm wearing a heart monitor good god the fucking i i don't know i guess this kind of just like what i was trying to like get out of here and i was trying to understand like why would john kirby say that the idf is a better military than the united states i cannot wrap my fucking mind around that man what does that mean there is something there that is correct like you know what you know what actually if you look at it in a terrifyingly dark way

if you look at the army the u.s army like just as like you know tool of empire and all it does is slaughter people around the world and has no aims at all about, I mean, all this shit. Then, yeah, I guess, like, the IDF and slaughtering and genociding people, you know, if we're talking just, like, I guess, just relatively, I mean, I guess, I mean, as John Kirby's saying, that's what we wish we could do. You know what I mean? Like, I don't understand. Are they saying that we should aspire to have child generals? Yeah. Like, child soldiers? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, i don't know man it's uh i don't know it's it reminds me of that quote that biden said

when um 15 9 11 he talked about october 7th it's 15 9 11 like just this constant like reminding americans that you should care about israel because they're our little brother in the middle east you know you know what i mean jokes on you i hate you yeah anything associated with you united states if i had to take a stab at like the theoretical underpinnings here like i do genuinely think that the united states is kind of cooked like ideologically speaking like i don't think there's much in the tank like i just think that like all the various strands and substrands of conservatism and liberalism and everything

they've been exhausted and so i do kind of feel in a way, and this makes sense with the way that you see them talk about the border and their emphasis on the border at this very moment. I do kind of feel like it just makes sense for them to just like, you know how you graft a plant? Just like slice out a part of the Israeli political DNA and then just kind of try to graft it onto the American one as a way to like kind of reinvigorate it and like that's the that's the liberals project like they don't because they have this blind spot on this issue right like because they have this this one sort of uh inability to see this for what it is they don't realize or maybe they do realize and they've just rationalized it in different ways but they are basically fostering the same right-wing ethno-nationalism that the the people want and the josh hollies of the world want and etc don't ron de santis of the people

of the world want like they are basically fostering the same thing in america so that you do get a kind of like liberal conservative alliance in the pursuit of blood and soil nationalism yeah yeah you know it makes me think about um you know fuck john federman but he said something that um i thought was fascinating he said a couple weeks ago that uh or months ago whatever that israel is sort of an example i guess of what progressives like everything that progressives fight for and believe in right um he would think why wouldn't they support israel it's a perfect example of the society they envision something like that and it was like yeah just a fascinating quote and it's kind of like yeah man i guess like if we are barreling you know towards like like this climate apocalypse and you know as we talked

with though as we talked to alex on the show about uh israel uh palestine being sort of petri dish right or rehearsal right for the rest of the 21st century and for you know um domestic policy like it's like these people are like not even doing it in such a way that like they're differentiating themselves from the right wing you know like it's the same talking points like it's the same racism the same yeah complete disregard for muslims you know and arab and arabs like the fact that people are like well if they don't vote for them they can enjoy their their camps you know when trump get it gets elected yeah and it's like they have this idea that israel for some reason is this like like multi-racial pluralistic democracy in the middle east

that we should strive to be towards but also on the flip side deeply dark down i think they they're totally i mean i don't know if i could say enjoy but they're they want that that limited that limited um that limitation of mobility right they want like a captive populace right yeah these are the motherfuckers who live in the suburbs in buckhead bro you know what i mean who don't have to be bothered right with um with anyone with up south atlanta right with people well you know what i'm trying to say like it's just like like it's like on both ends like israel is a perfect kind of project for them because it fosters like their fascistic tendencies and this bullshit liberal progressivism that they you know what i'm saying that you think they believe it right you're exactly right and you see this in the way that you you hear the word

like indigenous jews like that's the way that's the term they throw around to like justify the zionist project that like they're indigenous to that area and like it works for them because by definition that means they are liberal like by definition they are an acceptable form of indigeneity that like um that is not really real it's kind of like a deconstructed and then reified form of like indigeneity that like has a very like murky opaque history very tenuous um you know it allows them to be both critical of european colonialism but also continue doing you know european colonialism under under indigeneity yeah exactly and and so i guess that's why like a guy that's that's a very fascinating quote that's why a guy like federman would see it as the perfect

like a sort of apogee of like liberal values um and that's why that's what that's what gets it so what is so absurd and surreal about the press conferences because this is why i finally landed on what it is it's so fucking crazy about them. What's so crazy about them is that you go and you watch them basically speak from the point of view of another government. That's what's so weird, because they're not speaking from the point of view of the United States government.

They are speaking from the point of view of the Israeli government. Like, everything they do and say, like, they are basically, like, again, I know this sounds like people will say this is, like, anti-Semitic, right? Like, the fact, oh, Israel controls the United States. That's not what I'm saying at all.

I'm saying the United States is so sort of, like, bankrupt ideologically and materially and all these other ways that they have to absorb Israel's sort of like politics and mission and raison d'etre to be able to socially reproduce, to be able to put more gas in the tank. It's not a question of Israel like controlling the United States. Yeah, Israel's like our blood boy. It's our blood boy.

Exactly. That's exactly right. It's a question of the United States. Yeah, Israel's like our blood boy. It's our blood boy, exactly. That's exactly right. It's a question of the United States using- Like a little freaky billionaire dude trying to be 18 again. That is 1,000% correct. That's such a good point, dude. That's such a good point, yo.

Well, in so many ways, because it's like whether it's literally, like technically the Palestine laboratory, the fact that like Palestine is a petri dish, right? For all of these dystopian cyberpunk technologies that then come back but ideologically as well right you know and because we don't like you said terrence we don't got nothing left right they're like well like this shit popping on over there maybe we should be maybe we should be more like that maybe we should just cut the pretense exactly you know what i mean striving for a

multi-racial pluralistic, social democracy. I mean, they didn't even imagine that term, social democracy. But we should stop striving for that shit and just do what they're doing. Well, it's perfect. It's perfect for them because you've got the Mizrahi who aren't European descendant. They are descended from the Middle East, from Iraq, from Yemen, from Libya, if you know what I mean, from other parts of the Arab world. It's perfect for them because then they can conscript that into the ethno-nationalist project,

and it's the same principle in the United States. But I guess just to reiterate, just to once again put a fine point on it, it's like Israel does not have the resources, they don't have the power the influence or whatever to to tell the united states what to do like that's that is that's just not possible it'd be like if new jersey went you know was holding a gun to the entire rest of the world like that's not exactly that's not possible what it is it is a question of the united states itself. It's political framework.

It's hegemonic structure is all these institutions having no future and being totally terrified of the future and conscripting the Israeli like like I said, grafting on their sort of like frameworks and ideologies, racial ideologies onto the united states one uh to then onto the united states body politic to buy it some more fucking time dude you just i just thought about this yo okay like that grafting concept right the fact that you know um people know that nazis right um a lot of their ideas right um for the holocaust right they got from early i think what's the 19th century like american immigration right okay right so yeah america right the nazis took that shit right then then we took shit from the nazis right yeah like especially like in west germany and surveillance especially i don't think people know that like computerized surveillance system the first one on one of the first computerized surveillance systems was in west germany right right and then like israel like took shit from america and the nazis and now that we are just decadent and bloated and like there's nothing left we're taking marketing back yo that's so that's it is it is this weird game of like

telescoping or telegraphing across history you're exactly right like the nazis take the nazis crib notes from the american ethnos uh ethnostate supremacist project israel takes and cribs notes from the nazis united states takes it back from israel because that way it gives them plausible deniability right it's a way to distance ourself from our own past it's a wayability, right? It's a way to distance ourselves from our own past. It's a way to say that it's a way to sweep slavery under the rug. It's a way to sweep manifest destiny and the extermination of the natives under the rug. It's a way to both distance ourselves from our past, but also hearken back to the past in a way that says, oh, well, we're still great.

the past in a way that like says like oh well we're still great or or or we can return to uh the bydonomics like uh oh we're trying to reproduce the fortis family wage system we're trying to beat neoliberalism right like it's it's a way to both co-op the past and also negate it it's very that's a very fascinating we oh man i don't know and i'm not saying any of these people are doing this intentionally i don't think john kirby and biden definitely not those guys are fucking biden is asleep at that hour yeah no but i think that like that's the structural imperative of the entire thing and i think that that's what makes the press conference is so fucking frustrating to watch, right? It's just like, I don't watch these. I'm not an Israeli citizen. Why?

And you aren't either, right? So it's like, why are you out here saying that Israel's military is like, granted, I don't give a fuck about the American military either, but why are you out here saying that it's just this weird disjuncture? Are you cheerleading for another country? Yeah. I don't give a fuck about the American military either, but why are you out here saying that? It's just this weird disjuncture. Are you cheerleading for another country? These are basically the Spartans, one of the finest fighting forces the world's ever known. So we're talking about Gal Gadot

and a bunch of fucking 19-year-olds. Okay. And they're not. It's just like the only thing that they have is they have the capacity for unbridled cruelty and, like, piggishness and, you know what I'm saying? Just, like, just, I don't know, man. I don't know if y'all saw that, but, like, Haaretz posting that, publishing that it was, like, a recipe cookbook for, like you can cook use uh using things you found inside a palestinian's abandoned home did y'all see that bro dog again fucking serious again again like

i mentioned earlier they're so removed from the rest of society and just basically just all the tenets of being a fucking decent human being it's crazy that you can't even understand why that would be completely disgusting you know what i mean yeah this is why christ this i don't i genuinely am concerned you know just to like i know we're wrapping up here but like to put a fine bow on where my head was at in october and november but the full scope of this like do you really think that on a global scale this is going to be just like worked out or hashed out like reasonably like this is an issue that requires so much like delicacy it It's so hard to talk about in America. Like granted more people,

more and more people are coming around to the Palestinian cause. However, it's still very difficult to talk about with just like a lay person because of all the historical baggage here. The Holocaust, for example, the historical baggage of antisemitism. And so it's like very difficult to talk about this.

Do you think that, like, this is going to play out on a global scale with, like, those sort of, like, delicate issues, you know, being able to be attended to? Like, dude, I don't know. Like, whenever I think about this in the long term, it's like, if that kind of cruelty, like that like genuinely like i saw a video the other day of an idf soldier just on a whim just laughing with his friends shooting rockets at palestinian apartment blocks apartment complex just having fun having fun with the boys just taking down

fucking apartment complexes and laughing that degree of cruelty and hideousness is allowed to continue and not only that it's not only going to be allowed to continue but like once their project in gaza if they are allowed to finish it that those people can then just go on and live normal lives you know what i'm saying that they can just like go on and like you know know, see out the rest of their days. You're doing the Aldo reign, the closing of inglorious bastards. I mean, truly think about that.

Like if the Nazis had won, if no one stopped them, like, is there anyone to stop Israel? Yeah. Like there is no large state, like threatening to stop what they're doing. In fact,

the largest, most well-armed, wealthiest nation in the history of humanity is backing at full hilt egging egging them on and and and not yes not only egging them on but basically by their press conferences in daily statements and their inability to do anything to even counter trump they are basically saying americans you should act like this too. You should do this too, especially when it comes to the border, when it comes to other people.

They're basically encouraging Americans, you should do this too. These are your homes. This is your land. You should take it by force. You should be cruel. You should be absolutely piggish in doing it. I mean, it's...

Dude, it reminds me, I know we're closing out but i um i'm reading this uh i mentioned that collection of jg ballard short stories and i read one i'm still working through and i read one yesterday that uh it's haunting man it's called the killing ground and it takes he wrote it like it's 1969 and it takes place in like i guess this near future um where america um the vietnam war has spiraled out of control and now america is at war with the entire world you know and there are these english uh rebels that are fighting americans um like many other countries around the world are fighting american

forces and the way he describes the american forces right that they just overwhelm right everyone with the technology right from the air especially and you know i was reading that man and i was thinking like how just you were talking about like how will this end right like there's no one to stop israel and i don't know it just reminded me of the story this just in this the entire world engulfed right by this like conflict that arose because i mean for many different reasons but mostly because nobody was there to stop it or nobody decided to stop it you know yeah and at the end of the story like you know all the characters end up dying and it's pointless you know like all

this mass killing and mass death that i mean could easily be stopped tomorrow you know you know yeah i mean i don't know, dude. It's just, like you said... Go ahead, Terrence. I just, I think you're right. I think that just Israel is the thing that simultaneously completes the liberal worldview and disrupts it and subverts it.

It is simultaneously those two things it's kind of fascinating yeah like i said it completes the liberal worldview because they have the political form of liberalism like a parliamentary democracy but it also subverts it because it is a settler colonial project that is openly that but like, has to be laundered and reproduced in the Americas as not that. And so, I don't know, man. It is just, um, the implications of it, I, the scope and the scale of it are, if you think about it for longer than, like, we've done here an hour, like, you'll start to kind of go insane a little bit. Yeah, it'll terrify you.

to kind of go insane a little bit yeah it'll terrify you yeah i mean it's i don't know i i i don't know man um but uh yeah i don't know are we all becoming third worldists like that the tweet that tom sent today about the zone of interest is that uh are we all are we all becoming all third worlds out because like there was i saw this i saw this thing um i saw this tweet, and I don't know. It looked like it was in a peer-reviewed journal. It looked pretty well-sourced. But the average American dog, in terms of caloric intake,

in terms of happiness and protection and well-being, I think the average American dog has like a better life than like the average like african or average palestinian it's like it's like you read stuff like that and you're like all right man maybe i should um and don't get me wrong i'm happy that the boys are eating good but yeah it's it is it is grotesque it is like this it's like my mom and um in jamaica you know, you know, had a dog. In Jamaica, like I'm assuming in a lot of countries, like, it's not that dogs aren't pets, you know. Like, of course they are.

But, you know, they also have a role, like a purpose, you know what I mean? Like, they were bred for a reason. And, like, they're like, okay, this is going to be. Springs back full circle to the opening. I can't go back there. No. back full circle to the opening i can't go back but dude like my mom would be like you know um like you know when it came to him i'd be like yo these like white people carry their not even have their dogs in the front seat with them in the car but they carry them in stores they have them in

their bags and shit like that you know what i mean like these dogs are living better than us you know and i was like you know now yeah that's uh that is true they should be listen man we should all live like a dog we should all have everyone should live like a dog i'm not saying that you know you look at your dog and be like all right i got a strap of suicide vest to my dog and i'm not saying that um but all right final all right let's start closing out here um uh but final thing i wanted to mention the the just see the trump statement saying that he would if he was elected president he would encourage putin

to do whatever the hell he wants to any nato country that doesn't pay its bills oh god you're not beating the charges is it i hate that he says stuff like that because it keeps the liberals in business. I know. It really does. It really, it also, it is also a fascinating thing. Like, I've been conditioned with too many fucking, like, Disney movies and, like, Star Wars stuff growing up. But, like, it's a fascinating concept that if Trump gets elected, Trump's America switches from being the good empire to, like, the bad empire. The bad empire.

Yeah, we've aligned with with putin now it's like it's just like this thing that like america can be this like transmogrified thing from every four years as if america's neutral but it's just about who's in power you know what i mean like america can be viewed but it depends on what in what light and what from what angle like what are the press conferences going to be under a Trump administration? There won't be a Matthew Miller. Matthew Miller, by the way, started in Bob Menendez's office. He'll probably just go back to working for Bob Menendez.

Yeah, for old Bob Goldbars Menendez. Did Trump stop doing press conferences for like a year or some shit? But wouldn't his? Maybe. some shit but like but wouldn't his maybe i would have to assume though that like his the pentagon like the national security uh state would still have to do those you know matthew miller john kirby type things ostensibly right maybe not why would they why would they just stop maybe that gets at another part of the absurdity of these things which is like why do they even still keep fucking doing them if they're just gonna say the same three fucking lines over and over again it's very cough gas yo it's very cough gas because it's just like

there's no progress being made we're only learning about more horrifying details that they're in the united states not only refuses to do anything about but encourages right and you're forced to watch this every day yeah you know like why like if i was john kirby i would just wake up like i actually mentioned i mentioned i saw um i saw this video yeah it's that video with john kirby and i had i mentioned something like yo you could easily just replace these people with generative ai and deep fakes i know you know and the troubling thing is not because of misinformation um or or anything like that just because they are so soulless and repetitive and formulaic that i don't see why john kirby just doesn't get like a computer engineer

or biden just doesn't get why don't they just do that shit with biden bro if they're they're so worried about deep fakes yo just, just make him look not even younger, just alert. You know what I mean? Just open his eyes a little bit more. Yeah. It was like how FDR... They're trying with plastic surgery. They keep fucking making his skin even more fucking...

I want to tell y'all something. Them goddamn veneers that look like piano keys and like the weirdly tight faces and stuff, that's the new like wrinkles and cellulite and stuff. Yes. Like it's best just to age gracefully. Let yourself age, man. I say this as I'm getting ready to go to Turkey and get a hair transplant. Yes.

Do as I say, not as I do. Oh go to Turkey and get a hair transplant. But yes, do as I say, not as I do. Oh, yeah. That's total tangent. But yeah, you're exactly right, Aaron. Like, why even keep still having the fucking press conferences? If you're just going to keep saying Israel has a right to defend itself, I reject the premise of the question. There's a false equivalency.

That's what Matthew Miller said, actually, the other day. There's a false equivalency in your question. Yeah, all you're doing by continuing to have these are raising the likelihood that i will scout matthew miller and not for nothing talk about a man that could stand to go to turkey himself you ain't fooling nobody that ain't fooling nobody that goddamn hairline like you were in danger of your own life if i continue to have these press conferences yeah all right my my heart is taking too much damage today this this show is not gonna last another three or four years just because my heart's gonna explode yeah not not because you know we're getting this bad it's just like tears his heart i just can't fucking be like that guy in widespread

panic that died during their set. This. Yeah, dude. I'm just going to be in the middle of laughing about some pervert jerking off on a picnic table in Iowa. And just be like, ha ha. Me and Aaron are just going to be like, bro, is he dead? Is he fucking dead? That's going to be a day where Terrence has to turn off his video. Because his internet is some shit.

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