Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 334: Midstopia

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

This week we cover a few stories that share some crucial common themes: Austin's SXSW Festival, Boeing's recent "troubles," and the U.S. government's attempts to clamp down on TikTok Please support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

one two three bandana boys um the uh uh aaron the other night tom and i were laughing about a um a dystopia that's actually a utopia like i feel like a convention in sci-fi is like oh this is a utopia but it's actually a dystopia like what if there was a dystopia that was actually a utopia like oh i like that you get arrested trying to throw throw uh would be uh disaster refugees off the scent like it's actually like a great thing you got going but you're like at capacity and you're like no it's actually dystopic over here. You don't want to come over here. Or it's like this polluted city

where people get bussed out of the city and you think they're taking you to kill you or some shit. And it's like this amazing, beautiful cruise. Yeah, it's like they take you to a cruise the other side of the world that you've never seen before where there's sun. were thinking like you get you get popped for like stealing a loaf of bread or whatever and they take you into like a tiled room and there's like you know two gruff looking detectives there and they're doing the good cop bad cop routine and like busting your

balls um and then finally they they lead in like six of the hottest babes you've ever seen and they're like now is punishment we're gonna make these hot ass babes have sex with you also help yourself to this delicious array of fruits that we have for you we got a nice spread

for you here you're like what you're afraid to eat or you know go close to them what's the catch and they're like there is no catch this is just what we believe it's just how we do things around here maybe a bit of a high cholesterol indigestion from this delicious buttered lobster that we're serving here. Oh, dick gonna be sore from too much pussy. Yeah, that's

the punishment. It's like the indigestion and just the sore dick you have from just pure carnal pleasure. No more nuts to bust. You'll think twice before you steal a loaf of bread next time, won't you? Just like, what kind of a sick society is this?

Just go with your boys and be like, yo, I got a scheme for us, yo. Committing crimes on purpose. On purpose. So we can get babes and food, yo. Man, they don't tell you, but at a certain point, they just do flip a switch and just shoot you in the head. Yeah, while you're eating your grape or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Your dick sucked. I overplayed my hand. Yeah. What we forgot to tell you is we also have a three-strikes policy. It's threading a needle. You can't do too many crimes, just one or two it's actually good it took you two if you do the third one you're out you're they yeah they just just got a back of the head you just got to spice it up a little bit man but not too much you know

we can't have like we can't have purge see the purge fucks up and where it's um um completely just uh ridiculous because uh you can't you can't like rent consumption like that you know i mean you can't have a purge where people die and then somebody who's vengeful because you've killed their family member won't take it out and you know you need victimless purges you know like shoplifting or i don't know maybe like you know if your friend you know comes to your house and they leave their shoes by your door you know maybe when they come back their shoes aren't there anymore or there are another pair of shoes like size 16 shack shoes you know what I mean or cloud shoes

pranks is what I'm saying yeah right hijinks hijinks yeah I mean uh I don't really know what the inspiration for this bit was, other than, like, you know, it feels very much. We live in an actual dystopia? Well, yeah. I mean, it feels very much like this week. So, like, you know, obviously, I always try to apply narratives, narrative frameworks on top of, you know periods of time frames of time and i feel like this week the resounding theme that just hammered back over and over is just how like technology and the

future became like a sort of monkey's paw in in our hand right that like it's like the it's i don't know like we were talking a second ago about how these big stories from the 80s, like Cyberpunk, like Neuromancer and Watchmen and stuff, they don't translate anymore like the way they used to. They don't hit anymore like the way they used to because the future they all predicted has arrived. And it's even more horrifying and abysmal than they could have ever predicted and imagined.

Can I just say something real quick to add to that i was watching the uh watchman the 2009 snyder film last night and um i'm not sure if this is in the comic the scene but the comedian um you know when uh night owl says uh when they're breaking up riders you know and nightwing is night owl sorry it's just shocked because he's like what up riders, you know, and Nightwing is, Night Owl, sorry, is just shocked because he's like, what have we become, you know? We're just beating up on, like, Americans now, you know? And what happened to the American dream? And then I don't know if this is in the comic,

but Zack Snyder puts it in the film where a comedian says, you're looking at it. And it's supposed to be this really poignant scene where you're like, oh yeah, the American dream came true. But at that point when that film came out, it's such a banal statement that you just kind of shrug your shoulders right you know you're better i'm like i wish that american dream in that movie came true instead of the one we have now it's even i call it a dystopia we live in a bitch dystopia it's even

worse amid a man's topia that's what i've been calling it, man. I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to, if people hear me say that, I've been trying to have that gain some traction. That needs to be entered to the lexicon. That's good. It does. It does. It does. Well, I mean, you know, I don't have anything to read this week, but I do have an absolute

just cornucopia of various stories that kind of like hit on this theme i love that word uh cornucopia no i i do too veritable cornucopia plethora of plethora things to discuss um so like uh you know first of all like i want to talk about boeing just talk about boeing in a second but like just to kind of like as a little appetizer this this week is south by southwest i used to live in austin uh i'm an og south by southwest hater going way back but not for you know not for any like principles or anything it's just because like it's shut the calling this in 07 like now listen let me tell you guys something let's just a slippery slope to the CIA getting involved here. You were telling them, and now it's come to pass.

It has definitely come to pass. So people were protesting South by Southwest because of their ties to the defense industry, a la the tech industry. And South by Southwest felt compelled to release a statement in response uh their their response was the defense industry has historically been a proving ground for many of the systems we rely on today these institutions are often leaders in emerging technologies and we believe it's better to understand how their approach will impact our lives. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I know this is a really ignorant question, right?

But so South by Southwest, is that not like a music venue? It's a music festival. What the fuck are you talking about, dog? You're talking about motherfuckers that have perfected the art of killing people, and these people need to be somehow for some reason involved in i mean i'm not being called art right but just music you know what i mean yeah i think it's i think it's i think it's very perfectly emblematic of how of like where culture and arts have gone in the last like 20 or 30 years i mean granted there has always been a close proximity between intelligence networks

and art, right? The Paris Review was founded by the CIA, right? Yeah, and Jackson Pollock, wasn't he also funded by the CIA? Various types of MFA programs and that kind of stuff. Yeah, and I think even, I can't even remember, but there's even a sci-fi

writer that I'm thinking of, or a cyberpunk writer that I'm thinking of who had tenuous affiliations with the intelligence agencies in the united states yeah but it definitely feels like in the modern era they made the decision that there had to be community buy-in to the cornucopia of benefits that the defense industry and intelligence industries bestowed upon our lives and like one of the ways to do that was to you know collaborate with one of the biggest music festivals the thing about south by Southwest is it's, it's not like your stereotypical music festival. Like you go to a festival grounds and there's a few stages like South by Southwest takes over the entire city.

And so you, there are some stages and stuff like parking lots where you go see, I remember seeing odd future play there in like 2011. And I was like, wow, wow. This guy's radical they're rapping and they're subversive man they're so fucking edgy

and they're also 14 yeah they're literally like Cabbage Patch Kids but like I feel like that's South by Southwest was the perfect venue for this to take place because South by Southwest is literally the city turning itself inside out for this cultural extravaganza, this cultural phenomenon. And so if you could then backdoor the intelligence and defense industries into it, you then say, look, this is also part of the culture here. You've got our music. You've got our arts arts you kind of astroturf it in a way yeah yeah yeah

yeah that's exactly not just not today go ahead no no no no no no all right i was just saying don't just say they're not like it's not even like jesus south by side yeah people are gonna talk about that one like oh no go ahead too polite but like i was just gonna say i mean i i don't know um um i don't know much about south by southwest as a as the history of it but i'm assuming that it's not i mean correct me if i'm wrong terrence but like it seems to give off this veneer of being sort of like grassroots or really community driven yeah you know what i mean like has this really sort of like grassroots or really community-driven. You know what I mean? Like has this really sort of DIY, I guess, sort of aesthetic to it. You know what I mean? That's how it seems to me.

But instead, there are like some of the biggest headliners going there every year. You know what I mean? So I don't know. It just feels like it's sort of funny to see the defense industry sort of repeat or reproduce a similar tactic, you know? The thing about the appeal of south by southwest was that it broke down the barrier between you and the artist so for example

i remember one year going and i didn't get to see this i did hear rumors about it though that bruce springsteen was there playing on a street corner you know what i mean like it's that kind of stuff like it's like oh there's no big you know there's no big production was it bruce frankstein or was there a guy that looked like it's juice bling sheen or something he's a black guy he's a light-skinned black guy that looks like yeah and now it's like uh obama's busking uh you know and like like downtown but instead of performing anything he's just like you know talking about uh you know risk pools and the bronze plan yeah yeah i mean that's how far that's how far we've come yeah today it's the uh sub pop showcase stage brought to you by city bank and now it's like obama's uh uh doing uh you know obamacare busking brought to you by lockheed martin

yeah dude like that was the thing like that back in the day like you could go down there and like camel cigarettes would have a tent and they would just give you free cigarettes you'd be like man south by southwest fucking rule they would have they would even bring you free cigarettes. You'd be like, man, South by Southwest fucking rules. They would even bring out a Joe the Camel mascot suit out of the mothballs. Like, he's bad, but just for South by Southwest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One last job, and they pull the old fucking musty-ass Joe the Camel suit out and put it on. He smells like a whole entire fucking city of cigarettes.

it's like he smells like a whole entire fucking city of cigarettes bruce bling sheen and the marlboro man doing the the boss and like the clearance you know what i mean like the the saxophone like routine man south by was so much better when it was sponsored by the big tobacco. I mean, now it's sponsored by another industry that is proficient at the art of mass killing. Oh, yeah. I mean, honestly, their proximity to the intelligence agencies, like, I would stay away. Like, they're probably hitting everyone with a Havana gun. They're just, like, standing on street corners

and fucking shooting everyone with a Havana gun. Do just like standing on street corners and fucking shooting everyone do it do it do it like the dc sniper but instead of like sniping people from the back of a car yeah i wonder if is there an exam i'm sure there is like as soon as i say this i'm gonna think of like 12 and feel like a huge dumbass but has there been an example of intelligence community like killing us like not like jfk but like killing a celebrity towards some nefarious end? That's a good question. You know what I mean? Like, what if, like, the CIA just, like, murked Elton John or something like that?

Yeah. Or Elvis. Right. For some sort of, like, you know, esoteric reason. Yeah. sort of like you know uh esoteric reason yeah i see see i could imagine see this is how you kind of know that we live in a a sad time for art man because i feel like back then you know if you were an artist and you were subversive you know you were a decadent or degenerate they would call you you had j edgar hoover like putting like trying to get like hits out on you like you know what i mean

or like trying to harass you or some shit like that like because people were making art that if not spoke truth to power it was i mean i don't know i don't mean to say like i don't mean to make like a a trite point but nobody's like the cia is not even trying to fbi is not even trying to get anybody nowadays you know for making art i'm saying you know i mean that's how that's how bad the art is that nobody's uh being killed for it well i think part of this like sort of post-trump thing sort of uh uh e-crisis kind of stuff is like they don't really have to do assassinations like that anymore because like because boeing's doing it this this versus has just been neutered you know what i mean like we've all been sort of defanged in in a way not like not because what we're doing is not in i'm not

saying like that's us as a podcast or something i didn't mean to make it sound like we're these like brave truth tellers or anything like that but like i'm saying like speak for yourself you're wearing a bandana right now so yeah so i think it's like um yeah i think it's like like you don't really have to make an example out of anybody because nobody really nothing no ideas can really catch traction anymore in the same way that they could like maybe in mlk's time or whoever else they marked you know i think everyone's i think everyone's depressed and there's no there's no juice left in the tank of anything like i was telling tom the other night

like i think even woke has kind of like hit this depression stage everyone's like man i mean because like if we i mean if if it weren't true i feel like we'd still be adding letters to the lgbtqia right like we haven't added any new ones in a while and i think that's a shame like we need to be in the lab cooking up new gender i think it's a shame nobody's having enough sex to have an extra letter added to the lgbtq listen listen brother i think it's a shame nobody's having enough sex to have an extra letter added to the lgbtq listen listen brother i think there's i think there's a uh a species of fungi that has possibly thousands if not tens of thousands of gender combinations you know what i mean what are we doing here the animal kingdom is showing us out brother i know but we're all depressed now we're

like man real point this is true i can't imagine new ways of being everything's stagnant and The animal kingdom is showing us out, brother. I know, but we're all depressed now. We're like, man, we're no point. This is true. I can't imagine new ways of being. Everything's stagnant. I mean, but can't blame me. Also, whenever they came out with those new sci-fi pronouns, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

Yeah, like where it's like Z-E-X. Yeah, like all those kind of pronouns. I thought that was dope. I think that's when we jumped the shark a little bit, though. You mean jumped like 2,000 years? Jumped the shark like 3,000 years, maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just too far ahead of our modern time.

See, I think that stuff's great because it's like there's no... What else are we going to do? We might as well sit i mean like what we're gonna work jobs like we might as well sit around and fucking call each other might as well they're talking pronouns yeah like there's nothing going on like there's no point there's no other point in living like we might as well just do that i think that was really the meaning of that marks quote which i'm gonna bastardize again because i'm not even gonna say it but the one where he talks about fishing and shit like

that when you have enough time to do the things you want to do. What he really meant is that you have enough time to invent new genders. Exactly. We need to add new letters. I'm just saying we left the woke lab. We're not in it anymore. We're not in the lab anymore. I'm just saying we need to get back. I'm waiting for new races, brother.

When are they going to start coming out with new races, actually? Y'all coming sleeping, bro. We've been kind of stagnant in that regard. We have been. Here's what we need to do. Every possible combination of nationalities or ethnicities that you are needs to have its own special name.

You know what I mean? It's not enough to be like Scots-Irish or like, you know, British-Ghanaian. Like, it needs to have its own, like, sort of... Well, that's why Melungeon was ahead of its time, man. That really was the cutting edge. And then we abandoned it. That's what I'm saying. Like, we ventured, we dared to dream with Melungeon,

and then our fucking dreams and hopes got squashed. with Melungeon and then our fucking dreams and hopes got squashed I like how we try to reinvigorate wokeness so much that we went back to like phrenology like race classification like race classification

we were like no we need more ways to divide people well speaking of speaking of assassinations and there not being any juice left in the tank. Infant genders. I don't know how that one really works here, but we'll see. Just keep it in mind.

I wanted to talk about Boeing. This is another entry in my, you know, failed to deliver dystopia it's like what what happens when you project a dystopia and you don't even stick the landing on that you know what i mean like we call it a dystopia but like what do you even call it when you don't even stick the landing on that it's like once again a midstopia he called it a midstop. So there is Boeing. And where do you even start on Boeing, right? So it's like we've highlighted Boeing. We've highlighted what they've been up to for years now.

One of my favorite deep cut Trillbilly episodes is where me and Tom talk about the Boeing 737 MAX. The one that just was flying and all of a sudden just went and just did a straight nose dive if i'm gonna tell you what i'm not a i'm not a i'm not a rocket scientist i'm not even a plane scientist but i can tell you that what planes are supposed to do is it not supposed to go to do that they're not supposed to fly nose first into the ground. Generally a bad idea. They're not cars. They're not bombs.

Well, we've talked a little bit about this. Like, part of the reason is, like, there's no real way to innovate flight anymore. Like, we've pretty much hit capacity on our ability to, like, achieve speeds never seen before. Right? So, like, there's no real way to innovate that. right so it's like there's no real way to innovate that so like how can we innovate and tinker around the edges and like um you know figure out various ways to make the flight experience uh cooler and and less uh labor intensive right so that we can like cut more steward job stewardess jobs and cut more pilot jobs you know what i mean so it's like it's all innovations like parents they're called flight attendants oh i'm sorry did i say is that a an ad is that an antiquated term that is that is

an antiquated term yeah they prefer flight Dave i apologize to the flight attendant community i didn't mean to hear you we see you sorry about that um but like but the thing about boeing is that like so uh a few months ago the emergency door on one of these planes just blew the fuck off mid-flight and they had to like so not an emergency door it's just a door can i tell y'all something i i you know anytime i go someplace that's you know more more than just two hours away, I have to at least get an exit row. And every single time I sit down in that, I think of that scene from the one movie,

I can't remember what it is now, where the door just pops open and just sucks me out. And I have to sit there and think about that for two hours straight because I'm a neurotic. You'd love to be sucked out. What if it just sucks out your dick it just sucks out your penis if you're sitting there and just your penis gets sucked out from inside out though yeah yeah was it like sticking your dick into a vacuum cleaner would it feel good your dick is just like the only thing hanging out of the plane. Being ripped about by wigs at like 120 miles per hour,

some shit like that. Seagulls just coming by and just having a little pecking at it, nipping at your dick. The flight attendant is asking you what you want, and you're like, no, nothing. It's like the scene in Wedding Crash. He's like, no, I think I'm good. He's coming. nothing it's like the scene in wedding crash it's like no i think i'm good just coming uh no i said like the fucking door blew off this thing and

there have been concerns about boeing's productions uh like the boeing's production like like their safety concerns for a while um quality control issues quality control issues one of the plane company it's not a sneaker company it's not me body paying jordans where like maybe the tongue or a little bit of stinching is fucked up this is a plane brother we can't be having a b-grade factory store planes you know what i mean dog when you get the little b-grade stamp on the inside of the tag and shit you're like i will i'll take it that's all right nobody don't know but in a plane turns out they will find out uh

and and the most dramatic terms part of the part of the thing here and we we talked about this a few years ago when we talked about the 737 max. Part of the issue is that there is a lot of regulatory capture. And basically what that means is a lot of people who work for the agencies that, the federal agencies that oversee safety and production in Boeing factories, eventually wind up going to work for Boeing or Boeing lobbyists. Right. So it's like,

there's like being a pedophile working at a daycare center. You heard it here first folks. If you work for the NTSB, you're a pedophile. Basically that's what I'm saying. Um, but like, so there's a lot of regulatory capture here,

but there's been, there's been a lot of like whistleblowers and people raising the alarm on these quality control issues um this one was astonishing um this is from at j tommins a former boeing project manager who worked on a mac on the max demanded to be let off after finding out he'd been scheduled to fly on a max despite purposely booking a flight on a different model. Now listen to this. I want to read this. A flight attendant was closing the front door. I said, I wasn't supposed to fly the max. She was like, what do you know about the max? I said, I can't go into detail right now, but I wasn't planning on flying the max and I want to get off the plane. But I wasn't planning on flying the MAX, and I want to get off the plane.

Well, that is a terrifying statement. I wouldn't even get off the plane. That does not inspire confidence. I just want to see it. If I ever have to say the words, I have to get off the plane, like, please, Joe. I hope I never have to say those words, dog. I just want to, like, point out, like, where we've we've cut like how far we've come right like the big the big scare when i was growing up the big scare in the 90s and early 2000s was like oh your plane will get hijacked by like black september terrorists like fucking uh the libyans

are gonna hijack your plane and then Libyans. The Libyans. And then in 2000, it was like, shit, man, I hope there's no snakes on this plane or some shit like that. Like, innocent fears, brother. Yeah, and then obviously 9-11 and everything, but now we've come to... And to a lesser degree, 9-11. The lesser known... You know left the lesser known you know the lesser known plane into it

but like it is crazy now that we've just made the planes into the death object you know like joke the joke like why don't they make the whole plane the black box it's like they've just started making the whole plane the bomb the bomb that you bring onto the plane like you don't even have to say you don't even have to not say bomb on an airplane because the plane itself is the bomb that you bring onto the plane like you don't even have to say you don't even have to not say bomb on an airplane because the plane itself is the bomb so wait but don't you think though that don't y'all think though that like you see this reproduced in like cars like it's like you know we we can't cars can't go any faster right we're not we're not there's no new energy source right i mean i guess we could you know on electric cars, but it's just make them

bigger, right? Yes. Make them, make them weapons. You know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I, I, you're right. It's, you're right. Like they, uh, cause you are all the time seeing those photos of like a four-year-old

standing next to a car and their head doesn't even reach the bumper. Yeah. Yeah. Their head is like touching the hubcap or some shit like that. I mean, that, that that that's the innovation here it's like that one tweet that was like thank god i drive this massive tank of a car or else i would be dead it's like we're all in an arms race with everyone else and that's why it's like it is but you know you are incentivized to just get the biggest fucking car possible because some other car is going to kill you. So just get the biggest car possible.

Isn't it true that, like, the reason we don't have, like, any, like, sort of smaller pickup trucks anymore is because it's actually illegal or something to build trucks under a certain size now? It sounds like it might be one of those bullshit things but also like i wouldn't doubt it i wouldn't doubt it i could imagine i mean i'm not sure somebody could look this up but i could imagine that it's some fucking company like gmc or some shit like that that makes trucks that lobbies the government you know what i mean buy some buy some well technically you know because these have to also function as work vehicles or they can be recreational vehicles they have to be made under a so i can imagine some shit like that no it's what's really insane is that the bigger the truck the more damage it puts on roads and infrastructure

and so it's like tom you're already scared of bridges like imagine like what our bridges are gonna look like in like 30 40 50 years yeah i already fucking have a panic attack anytime i drive across fucking bridge and it's like imagine just pockmarked fucking just a big hole that just goes straight down to the river in the middle god you guys are making me think i saw uh this uh report whatever that new york city is sinking because of the weight of the building the weight of the buildings and shit and i'm just thinking about like you know because this country we love our roads we love our cars like you know what i mean just seeking further and further into the nether abyss and some shit like that you know driving hubbies did you did you guys see that story

that that that reminded me of this did you guys see that story five hundred thousand dollar sand dune designed to protect coastal homes washes away in just three days this this glass enclosure that we built to stop hail storms was apparently a bad idea i love how it's half a million dollars to just build a pile of sand and it just washes away and they're just like what the fuck bro you could hide a bunch of naughty rolls to do that shit dog no better allegory for america really if you think about it that's true that is true so much waste yeah that was salisbury massachusetts in a drastic attempt to protect their beachfront homes they invested five hundred thousand000 in a sand dune to

defend against encroaching tides. After completing last week, the barrier made of 14,000 tons of sand lasted just 72 hours. I can't reiterate this enough. One, I want to know who's like the

person who's like, well, actually what you need is just a $500,000 sand dune and then you're going to be A. Okay. But B. As true as anything else. No matter the heights that man's hubris scales to at certain points you cannot bargain with the ocean. Dude that is

true. This is Tower of Babel shit. This is true dude. This is true. Like water is just something where it's good until you have too much of it i love it it's just i don't know what the solution is said one person uh the situation is catastrophic it's interesting david wallace wells had an op-ed in the new york times i haven't read it but i did like the headline which is rare in in a New York Times op-ed, but it was basically like why we've punted on the future. And it was, I don't know if he says this or not,

but if I was writing that op-ed, I think the point is that we all know what the solution here is. It's ending capitalism, but we all know that can't happen. That won't happen. And that's why our politics are so retrograde and chauvinistic. It's that like for us to actually so retrograde and chauvinistic it's that like for us to actually embrace the future and move into it we have to end this mode of production but again that's not gonna happen so you know what it's like dude no no i was just gonna say

you know it's like bro it's like i had a pair of sneakers here the other day man that were too small for me you know that I had totally forgot about. Apparently my feet grew, you know. And I went outside and I tried to, like, squeeze my feet in them, man, and, like, walked to the bus stop. I had to walk back home. I had blisters. We're trying to put on pants and sneakers and clothes that are too small for us. You know what I mean?

We've outgrown this mode of production as a society. You know what I mean? I've done that. You see? Yeah, man. I wear a size 11, but I'm sure i can get in these size nines that ain't if i just take out the insole maybe you know what i mean to put it in a thinner one right thin socks you know yeah or you go clown shoe mode i'll just put some socks in the tip

of the toe you know what i mean that's what we're doing that's effectively that's what we're doing i didn't thought about that but like uh all the culture war stuff, like all the retrograde politics, Terrence mentioned, it's all really just putting up those sand dunes. It's all just trying to obscure the bigger issue of like impending climate disaster. The reason we're all fighting right now is because nobody wants to do anything about climate change because too many people are making money off of it. It's not because these people hate these people. They've just made us think that.

They've just bred us that way. You know what I mean? It's just to punt, to kick the can down the road on the bigger stuff. And there's some real psychological backlash going on there that is conscious and subconscious in a way because if everyone is aware of the problem, but no one believes that not only is it not possible but just like just simply the will is not there to do it then yeah i could imagine like you said tom like

people are i don't mean to say these problems don't have real issues material issues but it just seems that when we're powerless in this way we just lash out against each other you know i mean yeah yeah when you're fighting with your neighbors when people are engaging in stuff about like you know we hate this group or we hate this thing or like oh why aren't things it's all just bulwarks to just protect you know the system i hate to say the system stuff that sounds like really the system man you know yeah man for just to protect the man yeah yeah bro but just to protect this yeah this mode of production well um so yeah that story was in the daily beast if i scroll down i i am greeted with a story about how robert f kennedy is considering aaron rogers as his vp oh my god it's a match made in heaven

oh yeah brother um so but no but no, but anyways, I digress. Back to Boeing. So, like, Boeing has, you know, obviously from the doors blowing off to the planes just, you know, flying straight into the big rock. There's been a lot of concerns about, like, what the fuck is going on? What are y'all doing over there? Like, what is going on? And so there's been, like, several investigations into them. One of them is by the Justice Department.

So, and I think another one is by the, what, the NTSB, whatever. What is that? The National Transportation Security Board. You always hear it when you're in the airport. There's these multiple investigations going on anyways. airport um there's these multiple investigations going on anyways and um as a result they are calling in uh whistleblowers um one of them was this man named john barnett uh he is from louisiana he goes by swampy that's his nickname oh my god swampy yeah not swamp ass um sounds like a bookie uh this guy's a good guy you guys you guys are so quick to actually to just immediately assume

anybody i mention is gonna be a bad guy i'm not i'm not listen i've known many swampies in my day i've i'm not casting a judgment i prefer these guys i just you know it's not off to a good start i like the swamp thing so this guy sounds cool this guy is the individual who was supposed to testify in front of the was this in front of the ntsb itB? It was one of these two reviews. And then he turned up outside of a Holiday Inn in South Carolina with a quote-unquote self-inflicted gunshot wound in the head. Oh, I heard about this the other day. The details of this are fucking crazy.

So how they found him was that someone named rob quote unquote rob called in a wellness check to him to his hotel room and that's how they found him in his like dodge ram he like he had just gotten taco bell the fucking there was still condensation on the taco Bell cup. The man was planning to eat a meal. He was trying to kill himself, dog. No man murk himself before he eats a number three. You know what I mean? That just doesn't happen. You do that after you eat the number three.

Yeah, that's after you feel like absolute shit. Exactly. That's the last supper, right? Yeah, that's already a continuity error in this story. exactly that's the last supper yeah that's already a continuity error in this story um but yeah no i mean like the this whole story is it's hard for you to say boeing is murky motherfuckers i'll say that five times they are they're honestly one of the most like dis disorienting things about this is there's an extremely busty woman

walking down my street with two cats. Two cats and a walker. I don't know why I thought you said the cats were riding her titties the way you said it. They're in a stroller. Okay, so they're not like sitting on her breast as she walks down the street. Did I get a self-inflicted

gun? Where am I? You're in utopia, buddy. That's how we do things. walks down the street am i did did i get a self-inflicted gun where am i you're in utopia buddy that's how we do things okay um what was i saying uh but like this this all this is so disorienting because when you read the cnn story the very first thing is like if you are feeling suicidal here's the suicidal hotline it's like yeah okay yet next time i'm about to testify in a major like case against the corporate feel like you're about to be a whistleblower whistleblower for the company that you work for call this nothing right now yeah i apologize for besmirching swampy yes this guy's a hero yeah man yeah no i mean it's it's obviously

it's giving michael clayton it's the ins michael man's the insider it's like they definitely had this guy they definitely allegedly have this guy killed like i'm not trying to get sued by boeing but like come the fuck on man look at the fucking evidence the real question is though is that what could be so damning that you would be willing to protect by any means necessary even by doming a guy before he dives into his taco bell what could it be that they're trying to hide like i think the thing is is there like an omelette child like making these played workers or shit like that you know like the honey carriage used to when you would do pull off an assassination you would sort of doctor the scene like you think like they would go and be like oh fuck he's got the he's went crazy on the

five dollar cravings me and you we gotta get rid of this stuff nobody will believe this and then they just left it yeah you couldn't even eat it where are you couldn't even be like just i shouldn't say that's this is a man a brave soul dead and i'm making jokes well but they did like they did a attempt to leave a suicide note like there was a note but like his lawyer has said like he was not suicidal i think his lawyer said like i've worked with many veterans like i know all the hallmarks of of like someone with suicidal ideation and like you know in the last days of their life like this guy did not have that well also i'm someone if you have a lawyer too you know like there were like you were you were prepared to go through with this you've

planned this out you know what i mean this is not something that's just suddenly interrupted because you just decided to supposedly kill yourself. It's the most half-ass, like, doctored suicide note. I'm real sad, signed Swampy. He puts, like, a sad smiley face. Yeah, he puts, like, a frowny face. God damn it. Distract that from me.

Sorry, sorry, y'all. I mean, I think the thing is, is that there is... I think the thing is, is that, like, the story as a whole is incredibly damning. Because if you've got guys who they sit down on a plane, they've worked on the Boeing Max planes. They sit down on a plane, they look around. Oh, fuck, I'm on one of those? they've worked on the Boeing max planes. They sit down on a plane. They look around. Oh fuck. I'm, I'm on one of those. One of the things that swampy was testifying about was that he saw,

I think what it was. And again, I'm just pulling this from memory. He had like seen control panels on these planes that had a bunch of wiring and over the wiring, there were like loose hanging like basically like icicles but like there were slivers of like a sharp metal that could come down at any moment if there was maybe too much turbulence or something and like entire like control panels of uh fuck yeah so it's like that that's the kind of stuff and this

is the this is really explosive because you need a lot of american society and business at this point is uh completely oriented around air travel and if it became a thing where these planes were notoriously unsafe that like you're taking your own life into your hands if every time you ride on them like obviously that's not good for business right but like i think at this point and i've said this before on the show but like one of the most amazing things about america is like when we say like america is one of the richest countries in the world right like that is one of the that is true what is so insane about that is that corporations have so much money they hoard so

much fucking cash that they can really literally afford to pay off any lawsuits class action lawsuits or anything brought against them they can just weather that and that serves two purposes right like they one they can make the problem go away but two it really does diffuse a lot of like popular anger against them because they're just buying off people who have been impacted by their crimes like it's i i gotta say though here's theling, the bedeviling part of this for me. I have, you know, I am familiar with the workings of the underbelly of society, okay? And I have to say, even by that standard, seems like it is, how do I put this delicately? is, how do I put this delicately?

Seems like just fixing the goddamn motherboard is a little bit cheaper than hiring a hitman. You know? It just feels like, it's kind of like, you know, we were talking about that octopus murders thing, that Danny Casolari stuff. It's like that one lawsuit that the Justice Department could have settled for $6 million. Like, that's chump change to them.

Like, why did they not do that? Like, why fuck the bag up by just not remedying this thing? Like, I know that, like, you manufacture your planes at that same, like, Thai coconut place that was exploiting primate labor, but, like, it seems like that's such an easy fix proportional to the cash involved. You know what I mean? I mean, at that point, you were delving into your diving into a realm, into an industry, into a field that you are not familiar with. You make planes. You don't kill people.

I mean, well, I guess you're trying to kill people through making planes. But you know what I was thinking, too, man, is that I know air travel is safe. Right. but you know what i was thinking too man is that i know air travel is safe right but i'm just thinking about because of like regulatory capture you know and because these uh these uh uh kind of checks and balances are either non-existent or so atrophied as to be useless that it would be really funny if in the next like decade or so something that became safe and affordable you know um during the 20th century would then become unsafe and incredibly expensive you know what i mean because of regulatory capture you know what i mean like these modern conveniences we've out we've outmaneuvered ourselves out of their accessibility and ease of use.

Because, like you were saying, Tom, you just can't have motherfuckers that just want to, you know, pay the money to fix the motherboard. It's that they want to take a hit out on somebody. I just, I mean, I'm sure it's cheaper, like just in pure dollars and cents terms to take out a hit. But it's just, it's a lot of trouble. Let's do the checks. Let's do the checks let's do the bath here there's there is no there's

nothing about the logic of capitalism though that incentivizes long-term sustainability like everything is for short short-term profitability and so it like they are literally incentivized to not fix the problems in fact that boeing is a manufacturer okay what is so crazy about air travel now is that the airlines all pretty much all of them this is a crazy article from the atlantic airlines are just banks now they make more money from mileage programs than from flying planes like because you know they sell they like they issue their little credit cards things right like their mileage programs like they there is more money in issuing credit and serving as that kind of industry than there

is in the actual fucking dude service that they provide transportation that's how insane capitalism is yo is that like these like actual physical commodities you know well you know what i mean they have like i guess like a use value they just become sublimated into fictitious capital and bullshit like schemes like well you get sky miles motherfucker like who do you think i am you know what i mean do you think like how often do you i mean they're nice i guess when you travel but how often do you think i'm traveling you know what i mean to need that shit you know this would be a thing that everybody would need you know it's just it's all just window dressing for some sort of credit card scheme it's the our friend of the

show lee baines told me one time he called me i was at the post office mailing off some some trailblazers t-shirts and he said uh you know i thought i was in the music business but what i found out is that i'm actually in the t-shirt business and i think it's a lesson you're fine you probably thought you were in the media business but what you're learning is you're in the t-shirt business and it's the same thing with these you know these airlines or any really anything in america like yeah transportation is just the window dressing what the business really is is is making you take out credit cards or selling you just junk products or whatever it is you know yeah i mean it is pretty insane i think that you know one of the

craziest things you're right aaron is that like the use value like this thing that is pretty straightforward right you have a shovel it's a plane yeah okay let's say you have a shovel let's say let's say you have a shovel and the use value of the shovel is what it does you use it to get dirt out of the ground uh like imagine you were in a society where like um that basic premise the use value of the shovel becomes so mystified and obscured that like you're trading time with the shovels to make profits for people who sell credit as part of like very complex derivative schemes or like financial instruments based on how much dirt will be shoveled like speculating on how much dirt will be shoveled in the near future and the thing the reason why and i mean if you're asking like why is that the case the shortest answer is that like due to changes that took place in like the 1970s and 80s

there is just lower profitability returns in manufacturing and in goods and services in general there is just higher profit rates in financialization that That's why there is this drift towards this. It's why the airlines, they get into banking, essentially. They're not actually selling you their services. And in that environment, you can see a situation where the planes themselves, if we have stopped using planes as travel, if we've instead started using them as financial instruments, then you can see a situation where the manufacturing of those planes becomes a hazard in and of themselves to where we're flying the bombs. We're not flying planes. We're just flying bombs. Making the plane is secondary to making money.

Yeah. You know what I mean? So if making money means that, you know, incidentally, the planes might be unsafe be unsafe you know what i mean we're putting al-qaeda out of business basically folks we're shutting them down we're taking over their market share recreating 9-11s on a daily basis folks that's exactly right um well, you know, so that's Boeing. You know, there is kind of one more thing in this larger theme that I was talking about. I don't have much to say about it. It basically is what it is, but I do think it's genuinely pretty fascinating.

But that is the moral panic around TikTok. But that is the moral panic around TikTok. And by that, I mean, the moral panic is exclusively taking place within the halls of Congress and various people on op-ed pages. Yeah, Americans are like Americans. I just want to say nobody, nobody. I mean, that's like saying that they're going to ban Facebook or some shit. I mean i mean of course they're adding the xenophobic racist tinge to it but i mean tiktok is just a platform that millions of people use daily in america nobody is worried about this shit you know what i mean that chinese balloon over john dutton's ranch from i was at 2022 when that happened

you think that was all just like uh you know just to have probable cause to really like launch this whole sort of xenophobic like tiktok panic absolutely the chinese they're spying on us they're they're teeing it up man they're teeing up uh uh some confrontation if not a proxy war with taiwan or some shit like that who Who knows? Yeah, I mean, so what happened was that they've been talking about this for months. They pulled in TikTok CEOs to testify in front of Congress and everything. But the House of Representatives passed a bill

that doesn't ban TikTok, but I think forces China to sell it, like break it up and sell it sell its various constituent parts so what many american companies should themselves be subject to yes also y'all motherfuckers do believe in regulation oh okay but it's only when they're chinese all right we just project man everything's projection projection and pocket watching that's all exactly exactly yeah and um i mean one of the craziest things about this bill this was pointed out by saying jukta paul who is a professor of the university of michigan law school apparently um uh the bill gives a president the power

to ban any website he deems a national security of threat um determination of threat to national security posed by a foreign adversary controlled application is entrusted entirely to the discretion of the president um so you're telling me if biden gets an extra another term and uh uh we say something that pisses him off, he could ban the Trillbillies Patriotism shit. He can shut it down, dude. He can shut it down. Biden would ban Antiquite, like Ask Jeeves and shit like that.

You know what I mean? Like shit nobody uses anymore. Ban like Rotten.com. Nobody goes on that shit. E-bombs world. We have to crack down on E-bombs world. Jack, we're going after the hun. They got thumbnails. Whitehouse.com.

We're going after Whitehouse.com. People get too confused. They go to Whitehouse.com and they think it's the real Whitehouse.com. He bans the wrong one and leaves up the porn one. He bans their own website. Like Sarah J. Fucking like Obama lookalike like some shit like that um i mean it is really wild um the extent to which people i mean even fucking like

chris hayes msnbc chris hayes like even he was like um it's undeniable that tiktok is affecting shaping public opinion and it's like man like i full disclosure here between the years 2002 and like 2008 i don't think i missed a single south park episode like i used to fucking love that show i don't think i'm pretty sure that like my life circumstances like socioeconomic background like seeing what happened to my friends traumas that kind of stuff i'm pretty sure that informed my opinions and political worldview way more than south park so i doubt that tiktok is really i will say this tiktok has informed me that the idf soldiers are obsessed with Palestinian women's underwear. So I guess he does have a point there.

It does provide a real service. Like, we'd be disingenuous to say it doesn't. I mean, it also showed me that apparently, like, you know, like, colonels that are, like, 19 or whatever, you know what I mean, make good target practice for Hamas fighters. You know what I'm saying? Like, all of this, also, I just realized this, man. It's just, they think that, I say they I guess I guess I'm talking about uh you know

the liberal the media the political establishment rather and all their pundits right who are the only people concerned with banning TikTok um on both sides of the aisle Democrat Republican it seems like they think that young people of course there's an agenda right um you know the the fact that TikTok um is revealing like an alternative sort of a narrative right but beyond even that I think it's more simplistic I think that like projection you were saying Tom they think that young people consume media the way they do right you know they think that like that tiktok is a platform that is just kind of like it treats young people's minds like a repository yeah you know like fox news or msnbc does you know what i mean like or all the late night liberal shows that they fucking love or whatever deranged rag

shit that the right wing is you know always you know uh crops up but and i mean i know this is a blanket statement you know and it's not to say that younger people have a special aptitude for for interfacing with media you know but i do think they tend to be more critical you know what i mean when and i do think that the media that that is geared towards them or that attracts them tends to kind of operate in something that's more either either it's more um user like user um grown i guess you know what i mean like it's user generated content or it facilitates debate right or it's it's amenable to facilitating debate or now or uh or counter narratives you know it's not like an overarching i mean this is they think that we're getting like brainwashed by this shit because

they are you know what i mean yeah yeah i don't know sorry that's a ramble but i mean that just i just thought about the other day i was just like you you're so upset because you think that these kids are on their phones all day the same way you sit in front of cnn all day well part of it too part of it too is that pocket watching element like it's it's not hard to see why like you know these like traditional media people be like oh well people everybody's getting their information from tiktok now what they're really mad about more than misinformation is putting them rendering them irrelevant and putting them out of business yeah yeah as part of that and for the u.s government's part it seems that like oh yeah all yeah, all these, you know, the New York Times

and everybody that we've got on the take, it's just money we're throwing down the well now. Yeah, I think that you're both right. I think that for, I mean, I don't know, like, when did the TikTok, like, panic begin, right? Like, I guess it began, like, a year year ago give or take i feel like for some reason i feel like the pandemic man when the pandemic started like during the pandemic at least and i don't know if it was i'm not saying that it was a reaction to any tiktoks that were um promoting a wrong or dangerous health information about the pandemic i'm not saying it was so much that i just think it was because people were had a lot of time to be online you know yeah and find new things to be fucking mad about and tiktok was one of them you know yeah i

think that and i do think a big part of it if you read people like paul krugman or any of these economists that are really in the tank for Biden, a big part of it is that they're really fucking pissed off that people are spreading the idea that Biden's economy is not as great as the economists say it is i think that like for them tiktok is a place where ideas are spread that counter the narratives put forward by the biden administration whether it's on the economy or israel or whatever and i think that that's what they mean when they say like it's shaping public opinion it's like i mean granted yes there are some things i mean i don't know like you know what i mean like i don't really i'm not on tiktok very often like i'm sure you can find any a wide spectrum of insane conspiracy theories or lies or like uh just crazy stuff that like oh giants

exist and you can do magic and witch magic on people. You know what I mean? Well, that is true, but. That's how it's supposed to be. Yeah, I mean, that's where I learned first about the giant of Kandahar, which I didn't know about. But the other thing, too, is that you can't really grandstand and take the moral high road when you've been like, and still doubling down. I mean, the president of the United States at his State of the Union

was talking about the Hamas rape myth, like that whole thing, you know, which has been pretty thoroughly debunked, you know, at least in the terms of like what they're saying it is, you know. And and yet you still have the president of the United States digging his heels in at the spread of misinformation when you yourself are the progenitor of plenty of misinformation and far more pernicious than you know people absolutely peddling you know whatever also too i was thinking like um um this is the democratic party right um which under obama at least right he was like what was he like? The MySpace president, you know, someone who used digital communications, right? And platforms,

Facebook, right? The Don of Twitter, you know? Exactly, right? But so it's like, and I mean, I think even Biden, you know,

his first campaign, I think he was trying to bring in influencers, you know what I mean? So it's like, but it's because it's TikTok and it's made

and owned by the Chinese, you know what I mean? Because I'm sure if that if it was, again, a platform like Facebook or I don't know, it's just a platform that was more amenable, you know, more agreeable to you. Like you wouldn't have a problem with it and you'd be taking in the biggest influencers from that platform. You know what I mean? To go out there and speak to young people because you're too afraid to do it. You know, we're too tired, I guess. What did that washed up spook uh clan kitchen what did he say hold up hold up dog bro hold up

hold up clon clon kenneth clon with an i with an i kitchen this man this man's initials are literally kkk bro it's spelled i can't be an i k-i-n-n-i-t-h what yo top i was just thinking that it's not it there's no way that you as a grown-ass person could name your child with the initials kkk and not like come on man here's the thing i i used to drive when i was in school at morehead state university i used to drive down uh uh daniel but or not daniel but in parkway i guess that's 32 and every time i drive by from whitesburg to morehead there was a sign on the side of the road for this old farm and the sign said triple k post and mulch okay now i don't give a damn if this was founded by a kenny a Kevin, and a Kelvin.

You should have probably had the presence of mind to be like, boys, maybe we should stick this name back in the oven for a little bit and call it something different. You know what I mean? You knew damn well what you were doing is what I'm saying. No illusions there. Klon Kitchen uh statement was imagine you woke up tomorrow morning and you saw a news report that china had distributed 100 million sensors around the u.s that's precisely what tiktok is i mean sensors since jesus bro bro bro these these motherfuckers

think about technology like like from the plot of like a michael crichton novelist you think there's like actually a little person inside the screen looking back at you or some shit like that come on dude yeah you're gonna try these guy in your phone yeah i mean that's the thing it's like everybody from the from the liberals to the conservatives they um they buy into these narratives about this stuff like for example i don't know how many times you've heard about like them censoring free speech on various platforms um or or uh you know it's okay or the like the liberal line like it's okay for conservatives to do it as long as the government's not limiting free speech and it's like dude they these tech companies have everything they need to know about us they have it all like they like we already have a million

100 million sensors in the u.s i mean it's fucking facebook it's palantir it's all these various tech companies that have harvested all your fucking data and sold it to probably fucking airlines so they can give you so they can give you credit cards i mean it's like skybox yeah not even not even not even for something like i mean i can't think of a reason why i'd want you to use my data to like you know what i mean like for pernicious nefarious reasons but not even for something cool you know what i mean it like, for pernicious, nefarious reasons, but not even for something cool. You know what I mean? It's for Sky Miles. For me to buy credit. You're right.

So you can get Sky Miles. Bro, I'm telling you, we live in a minstopia, dog. It's not even like... You're right. It would be cool. It would be cool if they were using it to, like, harvest all your telecommunications, and then they drag you into a tiled room, and they say, Aaron Thorpe, here's where you said that Barack Obama's gay or whatever.

That would be cool. Instead, it's like, no, we're just going to give all your info to an airline and then maybe you might not die on an airplane because... They're so dialed in to what you're looking at, they sell you a master... They make you take out a master card

that's got Hamas fighters printed on it. They just like punt on everything they say they believe in or whatever. Just like, well, if he's been watching those Red Triangle videos, I guess we'll just try selling the master card. Get some money. Get paid. Yo, dude, that would be a perfect dystopia, right? Like culturally. Where like they just got you so on lock that they don't even care what

you share and talk about anymore so you can get like hamas like happy meals and some shit like that at mcdonald's because it's just like yo yo this is the thing we talked terrence this is the thing you've talked about before where you've said like all right you know you have black black rifle coffee and then there was like a liberal version of that and then you had the my pillow thing and then one of the kids made like a liberal version of that yeah david hogg yeah david hogg we just need two different versions of each product or multiple yo the same thing with genders man we just need as many products that describe absurd like you know uh fringe political affiliation but there's more there's like even more layers to it, dude. Think about that.

Mike Lindell, this insane man that once claimed to have an affair with Heather Locklear or something, makes this pillow. This MAGA pillow. The rebuttal comes in the form of a mass shooting surviving kid, a Parkland mass shooting survivor kid, doing

the liberal pillow. Hog pillow. Get yourself a hog pillow And his last name's Hog Bro I'm telling you It just We live in the bottomless absurd We are that motherboard

And all these things Like the little sharp things Just popping down Yeah about to drop And sever the whole fucking thing And send the plane into the ocean Yeah I mean dude it's Are we gonna get that's the thing like airlines i guess are one of the last industries where you do need massive amounts of fucking capital like are we gonna get

liberal airlines and conservative airlines like that would be america air well i mean that's the america airlines i guess there'll be an airline for there'll be a triple k airlines there'll be you know there'll be no dj airlines yeah there'll be red triangle airlines you know what i mean there'll be bet airlines no i wouldn't get on that shit oh my white person oh bt airlines would be so tight they'd be playing like white person though yeah They'd be playing like... Yeah, but it's a white person, though. Yeah, they'd be playing like Genuine over the speakers while you board. All the flight attendants are like sexy-ass black women. With big-ass booties.

Yo, hell yeah, dog. Hell yeah, brother. I'd get on that shit. Actually, that's not a bad idea. Yeah, the pilot would be on that. If you're watching the game reruns and the headset, that'd be so tight. Yeah, I'm complaining that it'd be on by a white dude. I wouldn't care, bro.

I would still get on BET Airlines, man. I don't care. Oh, man. Terrence just shows up and he's like, he's part of the BET Airlines loyalty program. It's like I like the food. I mean, like the inside of the plane like they'll have like wood grain paneling you know what i'm saying like yeah yeah it'd be really nice yo and the thing it'd be it'd be luxurious man yeah oh yeah it would be way better than triple k airlines

triple k being raggedy everybody just got those you know like you can tell somebody's like a racist white person if they've got like a bunch of just busted blood vessels on like a bulbous nose you know what i mean that's one of the everybody just looks like that looks just looks like absolute shit on there is that like a feature of alcoholism or some shit like yeah i mean but oh man but for the good you know the good people that struggle with alcoholism or some shit like that yeah i mean but oh man but for the good you know the good people that struggle with alcoholism it's a different look you just know when you see it okay you're right you're right you're right well i think that probably about covers it for today i mean we can talk about state of the union if you guys want to but i feel like it's pretty self-explanatory

it's like uh at this point i know i took a lot of heat recently for people saying that i said biden and trump are the same um i don't remember saying that but now that you mention it i do i do believe that yeah i should say it actually that does sound right listen listen dude i don't even get into yo but i was i was i told you terrence i was uh i was talking to this guy uh at the bar man he's a good dude yo Dude, I don't even get into it. Yo, but I was, I told you, Terrence, I was talking to this guy at the bar, man. He's a good dude, yo. But I don't know, man. It was just like, it wasn't even talking to like a brick wall, you know.

Because you talk to a brick wall and I feel like there's some recognition there that you and that brick wall exist in the same reality. Like that brick wall is always going to be a brick wall. And you will always be a motherfucker talking to a brick wall yeah these people though i mean so i just like the state of union man i mean just like we said like it's just uh do do whatever you want man do whatever you want talk about talk about the state of the union watch the state of the union vote for joe biden go kev don't canvas for joe biden don't do that though but you know do whatever you pretty grim somebody check out a master card and if you how sometimes they let you choose the image that you put on your card,

just put something like a Hamas marching or something like that. Just see if they'll do it. Yeah, just go to Bank of America, go to Chase. There are some that you can make your card there. And maybe just bring a manila folder with some designs. Some images. Yeah. Images that you would like that for your card.

It's just the green bandana, you know. It's just the green bandana, yo. Yeah, I mean, no, people said that Joe Biden was pretty triumphant at the State of the Union. He finally remembered some words, and that was cool. He didn't fall asleep. He didn't fall asleep. Blah, blah, fall asleep blah blah blah you know i mean uh fact of the matter is that uh i'm getting older and that means the the possibility of my death occurring grows exponentially every morning i wake up so um i would say incrementally but yeah it's

definitely yeah you you have a much better chance of dying today than you did three months ago exactly just by the by the sheer raw numbers and um basically what that means is that like i i've watched this cycle go around and around over and over again. I don't know how many fucking times in my life. At this point, I am beyond the point of trying to even church it up as harm reduction or anything like that. I do think there probably are some elections and some occasions where it is harm reduction. I'm not applying a universal. I don't think it's universally true that it's not harm reduction however i do think there is a structural logic and dynamic where those two parties those two motherfuckers

need each other and in that sense they fulfill all the parts of each other that make it continually worse and so in that in that scene from that light i do think they are the same uh i'm not trying to tell anybody to do whatever you know you you got to do whatever you got to do i'm not trying to tell you that i'm just trying to say that that's where i'm coming from i'm mortal can i give a quick uh can i give a quick a little uh little reference as a nerd? I like comic books, man. And one of my favorite comics is The Killing Joke, which kind of demonstrates that Batman and the Joker

have a symbiotic relationship. And there's the famous The End where Batman tells the Joker a joke and he says these two were prisoners. A maniac escaped from prison. And they're running across rooftops and they get to a rooftop that is the ledge that is too, the gap is

too far for them to jump. And one of them has a flashlight and he says the guy says, hey, I'll just shine the flashlight, the beam across the buildings and you can walk across the ledge. And the other guy looks at him and says, what do you think I'm crazy? You'll turn it off when I'm halfway across. And that is literally what the Democrats and Republicans are.

There are two people egging each other on into lunacy as we spiral down the brain. That is 100 percent true. If you don't believe me, you can take it from Joe Biden himself. I mean, this is a relevant thing. This was found by at Spirit of Linen on Twitter. This is relevant for the news this week, wherein the prime minister of Haiti left Haiti. Because, honestly, I hesitate to call this. Wait this wait they talk about the old one that they assassinated like a few years ago or they like that's a very charitable way to put that he left

haiti well no so the one that replaced the one that was assassinated whose rule has been you know pretty universally regarded in haiti as illegitimate um you don't say yeah the new york times coverage on this is that all the gangs united and they did righteous gangsterismo with insane characteristics and that's why the prime minister had to leave i'm gonna tell you something we don't need to do a goddamn thing till we consult the haitians they get it right every goddamn time this is true this is true i don't know enough about this situation to really weigh in one way or the other about that. However, I will say this, just connecting it to what we were just saying, what Aaron just said a second ago. Take it from Joe Biden himself, who in 1994 said, if Haiti, a god awful thing to say, if Haiti just quietly sunk into the Caribbean or rose up 300 feet feet it wouldn't matter a whole lot to our interests

so um i mean this this guy's a fucking genocidal maniac he doesn't care how many fucking black or brown people die he actually wants it to happen so yeah man and you know that last thing last thing i'll say man i think one thing i think that um one thing that kind of pissed me off sort of when i talk to white liberals about this i don't really try to talk to them about this, but if I even make my, my grievances known, you know, it's almost like they don't want to say it, but it's almost like, and I feel like this is just white liberalism writ large, right? It's almost like they want to say or have said, especially to Muslims and Arabs, oh, well, enjoy your camps, right?

You know what I mean? And all I have to say is Joe Biden isiden is i mean it's just one of two geriatric racist motherfuckers you know i mean i mean this is a guy who discredited the death count coming out of palestine because the gaza health ministry is supposedly run by hamas you know what i mean so if you're asking me is is life under but trump going to be you know for black and brown people going to be worse i mean what do you define as worse what's worse than the genocide you know what i mean so right right yeah like let me just spell this out for you we're already at worst yeah we are at the worst thing that could happen over 30 000 people dead so you know liberals need to stop

white liberals need to stop putting that shit on black and brown people, you know. Before we get off here, it'd be malpractice if we didn't talk about... Kate Middleton? Oh, that too. But Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law dying in maybe the worst possible way you can die. Dude, that, yes. At Elon Musk's hands. Yes. How did she die?

She died in a, what's the, what's the, why can't I think of the car? Is it a Tesla car? A cyber truck. Yeah, dude. How did she die? She died in a, what's the, why can't I think of the car? Is it a Tesla car? Sabotage. Yeah, dude. No matter how, the crazy thing about this story is that no matter how you spin it, no matter what the truth is, like, no matter if she was offed because she had some, like, secret information that they did, like, the swampy method on her, or if fucking she was killed by a Tesla. Regardless, no matter the outcome, she was definitely killed by the elites, essentially.

Wait, so is this the first confirmed cyber truck death? I actually don't think so. No, and I don't even know if it was a cyber truck. It was a Tesla. No, I think you're right, Tom. I think was a Cybertruck. It was a Tesla. No, I think you're right, Tom. I think it was a Cybertruck. It was a Cybertruck because she couldn't break the windows,

and the windows were indestructible. That was like the selling point of this vehicle. Yo, I'm about to squeal with laughter, but I'm not going to do that. But that is... What's even crazier what's even crazier about this what's even crazier about this is i don't think it is the like you're talking about a vehicle that like nine people have and that was not even the first i don't know it might be the first death but it definitely wasn't the first incident uh-huh yo dude well like this is the most dangerous car in america just in the sheer like just accidents to production you know what i mean what what this is weird and this goes back to

the airline thing it's like they this is really and this also is the case with climate change and the five hundred thousand dollar dune that washed. It's like they are so short-sighted that they don't realize they've signed their own death warrants as well. Like in the race towards short-term maximum profitability, they have created death traps everywhere, from cars to planes to oceanfront property, that they themselves are at risk of dying in the same macabre way that we are. And the crazy thing about it is it's not even like, okay,

you'd be hard-pressed to find a more capitalist country than Japan, but at least there's like a commitment to craftsmanship and building reliable things there. These motherfuckers engineered their cities to be tsunami-proof like 600 years ago. You know what I mean? And like, that's nothing that would even dawn on an American capitalist. If we could, it's like, you know, I think about the Khrushchev-Nixon kitchen debates. You know?

Yeah. Like, it's that. Like, we really do not think out past like maybe a decade or something. You know? Yeah. Dude, all I'm going to say, man, actually is like, you know, I all i'm gonna say man actually is like you know i don't know man maybe it's fucked up but i feel like if you stupid enough and rich enough to buy one of them cars then you are free to die one of them you know what i mean it's the same

logic with the submersible if you have that much more money to go down there then you can die by implosion like i don't i forgot about i always forget about this submersible and i always love it when you bring it up because it's like one of those images that's immediately in my mind just like because like someone did like a recreation of that thing like when it's like when it imploded and i always think of it and just laugh like i'll be laying in bed at like 11 p.m and i'll just think of that thing in like just liquefying their body dude i think about that shit at least once a week yo i'm not gonna lie to you man that's really just just man's just hubris you know it's amazing you think about mitch's sister-in-law though like

imagine being submerged in water the water trickling into that thing right dude yeah her frantically trying to call anybody and she was caught she was like texting and calling people yeah couldn't yeah and then so she died at sea in a cyber truck well it was a lake i think it was like a lake or a pond what it was on her property or something like that they said that she was trying to do like a six point turn or something like the austin like the austin powers thing like she was going back because it's so fucking big and clunky you have to do like a six point turn in that shit and they said she went over an embankment into the pond and i just don't i don't know man it

does sound kind of fishy it's very much like did it just like hit did it go in reverse and she couldn't get it out and that's why it went over the embankment or what the fuck happened well it is the perfect way to pull off like a hit you know put somebody in a tesla you know what i mean it's like oh they'll believe this thing's a piece of shit this will never come back on me i mean i don't know dude it's just it's just again it's the call i don't close it out but i think i think just to circle back to what we were saying because it's something that we talked about that i'm i'm gonna be thinking about man it's just like how we just create death traps you know because technology it's not the technology's only going so far right but it's our

applications right and even i guess even you know our political economy you know what i mean that is stunted technology and technological progress so the only thing we have to do now is just uh just create a contraptions man everyone gets to own a contraption yo you get to own a death machine so you can take yourself out whenever the fuck you want man uh that is true that that uh the submersible think about that once a week i think about that once a week and long and another thing i think about once a week is that scene in nightmare on elm street 3 the dream warriors were uh freddy's like uh getting ready to kill the girl that struggled with addiction and his his claws actually turned into happen like you know

they said something like you ready to get high i don't gotta feel like i gotta feel like though all right see that is the that is the utopia into dystopia if you're like a heroin addict like you would see something like that and you'd be like, oh shit, this is awesome, yo. Yeah. Oh, dear God. Well. We said some bad things today, man.

Sorry, guys. Yeah, we'll leave you with, we'll leave you with that partying image of, uh, Freddie. Freddie Krueger. Freddie getting ready to get you wet. He's like, wiggling his fingers so you hear the hypodermic needles clashing

oh man you could do that with all kinds of things like weed bowls like his fingers are all like weed pipes weed bowl weed pipes they're all one hitters yeah there's like one hitter cigarette one hitters that you know Pipes. Weed pipes? Hell yeah. They're all one-hitters. Yeah, those one-hitter cigarette one-hitters that you know that they're still. Better yet, they're actual cigarettes. Are you ready to smoke mids at a Bonnaroo concert for fucking... Well, thank you, Mr. Kruger. I am. TV on the radio?

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