Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 360: On The Interregnum

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

The boys catch up on the news events of the last two weeks Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Dude this is funny. I was just thinking about this the other day. I don't know if you guys felt this way when you were kids Didn't you think that? I don't know like why I thought this but like I thought the Harlem Globetrotters were like even better than the NBA players I was like that's the hardest kind of basketball to play They're really even like they were literally the best of the best. I was like, Michael Jordan's good, but like here's no way he could play with the Harlem Globes. Yeah, they're like gods, dude.

I'm just laughing so hard because I felt the same way when I was a kid. Because I think the Harlem Globes charters came to my summer camp once in Queens. I forget what college it was, man. But we had a hardwood court and they came on and they were doing their tricks You know doing the shit with the shirt the ball under their shirt Yeah, I was like Michael Jordan's good but like him going up against one of those guys

They would just put the ball in their shirts or like spit it on their fingers and Michael Jordan would be totally legal moves He would just like disappear teleport behind Michael Jordan with the basketball. Like I guess it's like these guys are the Cardis of the basketball world, right? Yeah. Yeah, these guys come in spinning plates while they're like just like kicking the ball up and in the hoop and stuff like that. You know, like spinning the plates on the big... Why is Metal Arc Lemon not not anybody's goat conversation? I wanted to myself as a

They said do it like who did he tricks and shit like that? You're out of eight like you put the ball into a hat and dumps come out Michael Jordan's just like what the fuck pulling basketballs out from Michael Jordan's ear behind his ear I Knew the jig was up whenever a guy named Shigari Aling who used to play at Kentucky joined the Globetrotters. Yeah. And Shigari was seven foot three you know. Wow. But skill wise he, well I'm gonna put this delicately, he left a little bit to be desired. So he kind of joined the Globetrotters as like oh the you know the giant you know

But even the tallest of the tall already tall men you know right right right right right? But can you spin a ball on his finger though yeah that trick you know I think they they I think they put you through globe Trotter school. Oh, do you know globetrotter cap? No, it's globetrotter school like if you've ever thought I won't be a Harlem Globetrotter Then you go to Globetrotter school where they teach you how to do like basketball tricks and stuff There's a guy on the ground with his feet and legs in the air and his arms in the air and he's got a spinning basketball on each finger and each toe Each big toe and each and on the top of his head and Michael Jordan's like looking at it

Like how do I even get this? How do I even get the ball? He's got with spigot his cock Perverted globe trotters It's like only not safe for work love trash like to take the kids. Yeah, they do like a human centipede on the court While that whistling theme some place just the most depraved acts you've ever seen with a basketball Mouse those guys were everywhere back in the day weren't they they? They really were, man. Like, and one time. They'd pop up on Scooby Doo. Yeah, that's actually true.

I thought of that because there's this new baseball fad. Remember Tom, we were watching it. We were at a restaurant or a bar somewhere recently and they had it on TV. It's El Charo. Yeah, we were watching it. Wait, are they doing, that sounds very dangerous. Are they doing that sounds very dangerous. Are they doing tricks with bats? They're spitting baseballs on their fingers. Well they kind of come out

there dressed up like superheroes and stuff just add a little color to the proceedings. It's Zany baseball. What was it called Tom? It's it's you know what as go go Terrence. I thought it was from Atlanta I thought it was from Atlanta. I thought it was from Georgia damn We're in everything man lemon pepper wings carny baseball You know what I was thinking though man carny baseball the savannah bananas, that's what it was Yeah, the Savannah. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. You know what I was thinking though man. What if What if as material conditions worsen, the contradictions widen,

you need more bread and circus to keep people distracted, right? And to prevent solidarity. What if we just start adding like, like Lucha Libre, Carney kind of flares to like a sports? So like, yeah, like basketball players would come out, it'd be either hall of globe charters,

or they'd be dressed up in these ridiculous costumes and still be still have to play You know I'm saying with a cape on or something. You know I think I think that's the way it's gonna have to be because Football has like declining viewership. They're gonna have to figure out ways to like innovate football I guess they'll have to make football like I football I guess they'll have to make football like I Think what they should do to make football safer for everybody and also make it more interesting Is that like when they spike the ball?

You know what I mean they hike it instead of the to the defensive line and offensive line immediately clashing in a Battle of will and physical strength they battle of will yes They should they shake hands, and then they try to negotiate and they try to negotiate the game. They try to make Yeah, that's I was thinking I was thinking to make it um not safer, but more dangerous and More potentially more potentially more exciting instead of like the halftime show being like artists It should just be like a death match or something like that,

you know what I mean? Like, you should just give people, throw weapons into the ring, and let people pick them up and fight. They could do that, they could give each player a sword. And so like, you're running with a, could you imagine a running back running with a sword on his hip?

With a boarding star, that ball with the spikes in the hip. Yeah. Listen, I don't know that, this is according to the Nielsen Live Plus same day data, okay, this is just same day watching data, okay? But it appears as if though, 97 out of the 100 most watched US TV broadcasts of last year were football games. So it's not going down?

Wow. It's going, everyone is watching football basically. This is according to what D. Davis just sent out on the football letter. It said that evolution of television, howdy doody, Roy Rogers, lassie, I love Lucy, gun smoke, Ed Sullivan show, breaking the oddity oddity odd a football And it says yeah that 90 or excuse me 96 out of the hundred Most watched programs for football interestingly

Number 21 was political programming. I wonder if that was the debate the debate properly. I wonder if that's the only thing they could well It's 23. I guess I'm off had been a debate. What would have been I wonder if that was the debate the debate probably I wonder that's the only thing they could well It's 23. I guess I'm off had been a debate. What would that have been I wonder if that was like some Just bullshit narrative that Republicans cooked up at during the Kaepernick stuff that like viewership was going down for football Yeah, like this is it's like a very Trumpian kind of tactic like ratings are going down right there They're too woke or something like right? Wow, so well, I've been I've been PsyOpt basically. Yeah, I'm in PsyOpt, man You know what I will say though is that I know viewership has gone down for like I know the VMAs

Came on last week or something and nobody I mean at least I've don't watch that shit anymore, you know But like award shows, I don't watch that shit anymore, you know, but like award shows I don't think anyone cares anymore Actually, yeah I'll stick to award shows because I'm thinking about like people just watch those for gaffes or for something kind of like that can be Meamed or like viral to occur, you know But that was the 60th most watched thing this year that one the only three things that beat out a football game were thing this year. The only three things that beat out a football game were some kind of political programming that ranked 21 out of 100. The Oscars, which

ranked 60th out of 100, and number 92 was... Oh, number 92 actually was Super Bowl pre-game pre-programming. Like the Puppy Bowl or whatever football adjacent the puppy bowl the puppy bowl now granted most people don't watch Broadcast television anymore, so dude. This is mostly people that still have like a direct TV subscription I'm a cable box bullshit. They should do like a Komodo dragon bowl or some shit That's a mosquito bowl. They should do a miss you saltwater crocodile off You know what I mean? Okay, the puppy bowl. We've just had it too. Yeah, I'm fucking done with that bullshit puppies bro

Okay, dude ass puppies well speaking of tele speaking of the spectacle Speaking of programming look we've not talked. We've not the three of us sat down and and debriefed Properly the last few weeks. We've not talked since the before the debate in fact so we're not even processed the debate Much less all the insane things that have gone on since then so let me just give you a recap dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris Malik endorses Kamala Harris Malik endorses Kamala Harris all it's for Kamala children eaters for God Honestly, it's kind of on brand this guy catch that they're So yeah, like the dick Cheney thing is we could talk about these in turn

But I just wanted to kind of like put them all out there. There was the dick Cheney thing. There was a debate There is a New York Times poll that was released today that has There is a New York Times poll that was released today that has Kamala and Trump neck and neck which I find I find I find very fascinating like you would think You would think after Trump Trump is only it really had one bad debate performance And it was the other night and he pulled a point closer is what you're telling me yeah I'm sorry that's uh that's incredible man oh there was a second assassination attempt on Trump just banker after banker man I'm putting myself in the head in the the the head frame of a person that's just hearing this for the first

time and it's still hilarious to me. Yeah, but they took another swipe at him in his many months. Dude, dude, I mean, it's becoming, I mean, I'm a literally ghost terrorist, but it's just the news cycle is so insane that every, it's really the 24 hour news cycle. Everything is forgotten as soon as the new thing pops up. I mean, I feel like him getting assassinated almost again another attempt was just like a pebble in like a wide ocean. It is barely Well, what were we talking about this on the phone yesterday Aaron like Like Hawk to has had a greater cultural impact than Trump

both times, actually. The lashback to the Star Wars Acolyte show, and the right wing's lashback and that leading into it being canceled was a bigger news story for at least a week longer than Trump getting his melon blown off, and again possibly right right There is also the curious case of Laura Loomer who it was speculated was having an affair with Donald Trump and

Which I I never for a moment doubted. I always thought that that actually is the most That's actually like the most sensible Reasonable news story. I think I've heard this year. I was like actually that makes total sense No, that makes complete sense. And I mean it makes even more sense I mean, I think it's it's it's veracity is like kind of validated right? It's true basically because apparently she got kicked off this plane and she's no longer allowed on Trump's plane so I thought I know he tapped that he tapped that and just kicked her out the door

you know what he did there was also just kind of locally there was the vice presidential candidate JD Vance making up stories about Haitians eating cats in Ohio. This was repeated at the debate by Trump in a very bizarre tirade. He also had a bizarre statement about like illegal immigrants being given Transition surgery in prisons, which I really like had to hear 20 times before I could even understand I was like is that good or is it bad? What is the what is the Trump is saying the Dems are giving extraterrestrial aliens are That's what I heard it wasn't clear yeah

I kind of heard it as like aliens were coming down to get their they're doing medical tourism here in our realm They were doing they were transitioning on earth because it's actually cheaper than on you know right in pretty apparently We have the best health care in the galaxy apparently it was one of those things where it's actually cheaper than on you know right in pretty apparently we we have the best health care in the galaxy apparently it It was one of those things where it's like Okay, the immigration is bad. I guess in this construction. Is that okay? I guess I'm assuming immigration is bad and then the gender reassignment surgery is bad, but in the prisons is that bad Is that good is like? It was like a maelstrom of bigotry.

Like he just said so many hateful things in one segment. I was just like, you know, it was like, it was like just hate-ception, you know what I'm saying? I was like, try to understand, you know, through the concentric levels of bigotry. Kamala's response to that was basically like, wow, that's extreme. Well, that's extreme.

You know, and I don't know like we get again we could talk about it all a little more in detail in a second but genuinely like out of the debate what I found to be the most disturbing moment by far I think was the was come on cuz Kamala's statement that they had received like 30 endorsements from like 30 former Reagan and Bush

Staffers and dick Cheney just like kind of like holding those out like a feudal lord You know what I mean like my Bannerman have rallied like and I've just taken out a taking out a tome and unrolling that shit It's like names of like 30 like demons and arch demons and shit like that of like 30 like demons and archdemons and shit like that. Like a book of the dead. Like she opens a book of the dead like here are my endorsements. Here are my endorsements. A grim war. They have some ancient Mesopotamian death gods.

Dust off the old Necronomicon. Has like an eye, like a still moving eye on the cover. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sew it on the cover Crust in it you gotta kind of walk out you know Didn't we find out there was actually a flat a human fleshbound book in the Harvard library That was the book she produced to show her endorsements And then just locally there's a local story that I wanted to give a brief recap and update on because like genuinely like the background just

ambient terror of this country is obviously something we talk about a lot but like I don't know why I don't know why this one in particular kind of fucked me up but like two weeks ago a guy went into a gun store and bought two thousand rounds of ammunition went up on an overhead or an an overpass between two mountains in Eastern, Kentucky and just started unloading on passing cars and Managed to I think injured like seven or eight people like you know just driving on the highway like went through the windshield like fucking

You know you just get your arm blown off as you're as you're going down the highway You say this dance I mean I want to point out again nobody died You say this to answer me man. I want to point out again nobody died Tom's get over it that Some good old fun, you know, yeah, don't die this to me that just kind of like gets at the Like in Kentucky itself and this has also been the case in Ohio and I don't even know if this is related or what? They found the shooter yesterday by the way his body he was dead Because he went into the woods and they just couldn't find his body for like two weeks Wait wait if you need further evidence that the Kentucky State Police and most cops are incompetent

It took a couple of hillbillies that run something called the Hatfield McCoy Museum exactly two days to find what they found Cops couldn't do in two weeks You found him Oh my Lancia I'm coming. Oh my land to you found him Oh my Lancia alcic of ours. Oh gosh Gross wait, did he did he get shot? You said he was just his body was found in the woods Like he got eaten by a bear or something. No I'm pretty sure he shot himself. Oh, he shot himself He could have he could have like gone into the woods thinking he was gonna rough it and gotten bit by like a rattlesnake

Hasn't been confirmed that it's him. They just found a body. That's true. That is true They don't know if it's him for sure or not, but this is such a harrowing like okay go ahead This the story is insane well I guess to me the story just kind of like it just summed up the the just the everyday terror It just summed up the everyday terror that is inflicted upon us and that we just are okay with. Because this also happened at the same time, and I don't know if this is connected, I don't know if it's connected to the Haitian thing in Ohio, but for two weeks, has just been like, had this ever-churning, like roiling, like, thing where there have been bomb scares, like bomb threats called into, like, every school in Kentucky, basically.

Jesus Christ. And I think that's also happening in Ohio, but I didn't know, they said that was related to the Haitian thing, and I didn't know how exactly. You know what I'm saying? There's so many different stories, right? I can't even keep track anymore. Because, I mean, how can I put this, man?

It's just, I don't know what I would expect, right? Would I expect people to, I mean, and God forbid this doesn't happen, and this is what JD Vance and Trump are like, I mean, inciting blood libel, essentially. But you know, I thought people would try to target Haitian communities, which they are. But let's say if there was a center, right, a community center for and by the Haitian immigrants and people who live there, you know, that's one thing. But you're just calling in bomb threats to schools and stuff like that,

you know what I mean? So you're not even, it's just like this this Omnicidal blatant terror, you know, it's that I mean affects fucking everybody, you know I mean, obviously there are people that are more at risk, right? I'm not saying that but this is just completely senseless You know, it feels like everybody wants in on the Jokerism a little bit you know how like the day of 9-eleven like after it happened like everybody like gas prices like they just started gouging people almost immediately. And everybody went to the pump and was lined up. That happened in White'sburg, I don't know if it happened, I assume it happened in other places too.

But it feels like when things get unstable, everybody's like, well, let's just rock the boat a little bit more, let's call in these bomb threats. And a friend of mine actually had texted me this morning saying that somebody that was in therapy at the place where they work at had said that their child's school had called in like an active shooter threat and that you know they said that they just treated it as like it was like a prank. It's like, that's how commonplace it is now.

Right. Where we just triage like how viable of a threat these things are. It's been so normalized. Well, and you can't reasonably respond to everyone because if you did, there would be no education done at all. You know what I'm saying? Like you would spend your entire day sending kids home because it's so commonplace now.

I mean, I guess I kind of see it as like an extension of just this war on the commons that's been part of like neoliberalism, right? It's just that like public education is the last vestige of any kind of like communal tie, any kind of communal space. And it's like, well, we can't have that. Like we have to be even more alienated and paranoid

and terrified of each other, so. Right, right. I don't know. But yeah, just, I don't, the whole thing, it has been a truly bizarre, like I was at a friend's house the other night and we were talking about the this was before Trump put the foot down on Laura Loomer, and we were talking about the debate and

Just Trump's whole trajectory recently is like I mean I know it's not a one-to-one But like genuinely the image that keeps coming to my mind, and this is almost a hack bit I know plenty of like compact right mag writers try to do this dumb shit, but like Trump if if Trump is the Napoleon of our time in the sense that like he Manages to merge and consolidate all the contradictions inherent in like the dissolution of the neoliberal state then like this really is his return from Elba period, his attempt at the 100 days,

trying to rally the masses behind him against all the forces of Europe, marching to Paris and everything. It's like everything about it was so grotesque in its own romantic way, or romantic in its own grotesque way. He even had a mistress He had a mistress that looked like she'd been extensively experimented upon Well, I guess what I was referencing earlier is Trump is one of those guys that has an appetite for what King Solomon said called strange women.

Yeah, yeah. In the scripture. Absolutely. 100%. Oh man. I mean it's it's You know, can I just add to that? It doesn't even feel like How can I put it? It doesn't feel like there's any to that it doesn't even feel like how can I put it doesn't feel like there's any like any theatrical it is theatrical right but it also feels like he's kind of like lost his will you know and now these are sort of rote motions that he's just kind of like unconsciously or subconsciously going through just as an example dude I went to the liquor store yesterday and I heard an ad on the radio and it said something like Trump will will

not tax like tips from waiters and that's all it was there was no there was no anecdote from from a person in the service industry saying how this would be good for them someone talking there was no soaring music it was almost like it was almost like a dubbed voiceover from a film or maybe like maybe one of those old Like newsreels that they used to show during World War two in the theater That's what it was, you know And I was just like like in the 70s how they promote a movie wouldn't even be like, you know in the 80s They started adding like music and the scent right arpeggios and stuff like that in the in a world You're right in the 70s they were like

Harry Dean Stanton You know that's exactly what it was. Yes, I guess my point is like there's not even he's like he's half-hearted Well, it feels ideologically exhausted. That's why it reminded me of Napoleon returning from Elba in the sense that like You got like all these like grand actors Uniting in this alliance to bring him down right like the old liberals in the neocons have finally like put aside their petty differences and they've decided that like it's time to unite and put down this Insurgent populist force I am NOT saying this positively positively, by the way. Like, you have to understand that, like, I hate Trump.

I have no dog in this fight. Like, the left has been excluded from this election. We are in no way like- We're in the time out quarter permanent. We're in the time out quarter permanent. I mean, for right, semi-permanent. We're at the kids' table. Right.

Right. You know, paper plates and shit. For Darren the Dream with Bernard Sanders. I don't mean this in a positive way or anything. I mean that neoliberalism was a revolution upon the means of production and communication. And as such you had to have a Napoleon-like figure come out of it and try to like consolidate these contradictions in a grotesque way that just wound up exploding the contradictions and kicking the can further down the road. And so in that sense, like he just feels sort of like historically exhausted, right? Like

he just feels like he's out of time, out of place. Like the moment has passed him by. Like it's weird to watch this guy who like so adroitly navigated these weird contradictions over the past eight years be completely like deflated and not of the moment anymore. He's spent. Yeah. But here's the thing, I don't know what that means. He could still win, in which case we would be in uncharted waters. What if Napoleon did manage to win at Waterloo? You know what I mean? Like what if he did manage? You know what I'm saying? Like what does that mean?

Like I don't know. I mean, to me, like at the very least, we can at least say that like in 30 years, like I was talking to Tom about this the other night, like at the very least, I think we can say that like in 30 years, this implies that like when the Republic is threatened by like its third military junta of the last like 20 years,

like AOC and JD V of the last like 20 years like AOC and JD Vance will come together and be like let's put aside our petty differences and try to quell the contradictions JD Vance will have since been implicated in a number of the most bizarre sex scandals you've ever heard of Just real depraved shit and AOC will have You know Hard to say what else what's gonna happen with ALC she could be the president as easily as she could fade in obscurity right all right mm-hmm Yeah, I don't know yeah, they get the big they they come together strange bedfellows come together to save the Republic once again

Strange times create strange bedfellows you know truly. It's just what's create strange better fellows you know truly It's just what's the story America loves you know that unlikely friendships. You know alliances There's just like truck the story of Trump is like truly unprecedented in America It feels like it feels like a tragic comedy Tragic for us, but also comedy for us Yeah, I also do feel like this perhaps like kind of started the first time that he got shot and survived, you know, and we've talked about it, but just his confrontation with death and how like, I mean, he realized that, yeah, I'm going to die someday and no one might remember me.

I mean, I'm just, I'm not psychoanalyzing the guy, but I can only assume you know That that's what's been plaguing him. He's just like shit. Maybe I should have died you know maybe Guy that tried to kill him the second time that is some serious That guy I I stand I'm standing So what did this because I have not been online online so I don't know I didn't even know somebody told me This is how this is how like a blase this is all has been and so repetitive somebody told me that happened I was like oh word like that was my response. You know to me I'm gonna go I've wrestled with this for several days now

And I've come back around to thinking that this guy's actually holds the views of the median US voter. He does, for sure. Like, at the median US, and I don't mean the exact views, I just mean that the median US voter has a kooky take on about five or six pet issues. And then what's distinguishing is, is just like where they stand on like, you know, I guess the culture wars or something

a little more substantive. But really and truly what they're passionate about is like, you know, father's rights or you know, or whatever. So what are the circumstances with this story? I think he was at a golf course. Here's this golf course. He was at a golf course. This guy hid in a bush for 12 hours Dare any of you to have that kind of dedication for anything 12 hours

I can't sit still for 10 minutes Stuck the barrel the gun out of the bush like it was like some acne looney tunes like like Elmer funds like blast You know fuck it Bugs Bonnie and ass you know it's it's How far away was he I? Oh, fuck it. Bugs bonnie in the ass, you know? How far away was he? I don't know. I think, I don't even know how they found him. I don't know if they-

So don't they do, don't they do, don't they search the grounds of these places, like secret service or like security to make sure that there's nobody, you know what I mean? All the golf course hiding in the bushes, like you have a fight. I don't think anybody cares. Dude, America is done, and I say that like in every single sense.

I had a panic attack the other night just being overwhelmed by like the nightmare society we're creating. Just in the sense that like you can't get anybody on the phone to like solve any problem that you need with like your health care insurance or Just either health care in general driverless cars AI Widespread use of nitrous gas, you know huffing online gambling And I mean I just have to add like in this really ballardian confluence between a violence and technology, you know, we'll probably talk about it Maybe but just the pager situation which you had to clue me into that's how offline I had been

I had no idea that this had happened, but you had brought it up in the chat I mean, that's just nightmarish, you know, like these devices that we I mean just generally electronic devices that are used every day by people Especially in the healthcare industry, you know with pages, know, and just being intercepted at the point of production, right? And it's almost the symbolic sort of manifestation of this omnicidal cannibalistic, like advanced commodity production. And then there's that tinge of terrorist political violence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so ballardian, dog.

And it's just so nightmarish that I was just like, yeah, I needed to- The reason I'm fucked up about it is because I was getting ready to start my own phone tent, you know, using a little known federal program called the Obama Phone Program. And I was going to call my operation Hezbollah Phone, but I got to go back to the drawing board now. The Obama Phone constituency needs to rise up because this is a threat to all of us. This is really a threat to all of us. Well especially because they said these were mostly the Huawei brand phones.

Huawei. You know, Huawei or whatever you say. Yeah, that's specifically targeting the Obama phone constituents. So we have to, we got to do something about that. You have to step in. Also, just the 24-hour news cycle in general is what like I was just reading that guy's tweets the Ryan Ruth guy the guy that tried to shoot Trump the second time. What was his name? Ryan Ruth? Ryan Ruth. That's like a superhero Dave Dogg with the alliteration like Clark Kent. Like Peter Parker.

like Clark Kent, like Peter Parker. I'll tell you what, the silence from Ben Folds is deafening right now. Apparently they know each other to hear Ruth telling. This guy, like, when I was in college, me and my friends, this is some deep internet lore. I don't know if anybody's gonna remember this. Me and my friends found this Facebook page of this woman called Karen Catherine Waldegrave who? Who claimed to be the heir of the Habsburg dynasty and

Her and she spent entire days posting about all Just like we're talking like stream of consciousness almost like paranoid schizophrenic ramblings about everything in the world It was almost like a random Generator random like information generator that just like churned out like reference GPT before chat GPT. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and and and There was all this speculation it was weird because there was all these photos along with the page, but they were all water damaged. And so they looked real, but they looked like they had survived a flood.

It was very creepy, right? And then the page disappeared. We've never heard anything about it ever since. Just a weird internet thing. But I was reading that Ryan Ruth's guy's Twitter's page and he it's the exact same shit it's like he is he was like a correct me if I'm wrong here I'm pretty sure he was like both a Trump voter but then a Bernie Bernie voter and then Obama and maybe Buddha J is again the American voter I mean it's just this hodgepodge of

contradictory views he just where the cycles for having like kind of like a dogmatic sort of if I can say so yes, right? Most people do not most people do right most people don't have like a dog more like a coherent like fight kind of like a Ideology, I guess we'll call it everybody has ideology, but whether it's like coherent or not Where there's a dogmatic or not is a whole other question But um, but I think you said it yesterday on the phone Tom I don't think you get that shooter without the 24-hour news cycle and that's just another thing that got another background toxic social pollutant I have a body that's a neuroscientist and his his

Research is specifically on the effects of the 24-hour news cycle. It's not specifically on it He writes about it a lot about how that our brains are just not equipped to deal with that the absorption of that level of information and the sort of the theatrics and the Spikes and cortisol and everything that come with it like over time it's it's designed to boil your brain and it's bad that we live in a society where like The fittest like if it's like if we're just taking a survival of the fittest approach Like the only people that are going to be fit for the future people that are already cooks to begin

Yeah, right that are impervious to like the 24 hours news cycle can do to their noggin We've created a situation where the spectacle Induces constant fighter flea like you are constantly cortisol spiking your brain is telling you like I have to fight here For survival I've gone or run away or buy a gun and it's the thing like and I was talking about this with you guys One of you the other day. I was like in my mind I was like man if they held the election tomorrow I'm sure Kamala would win, and then I was like, well why don't they fucking hold the election tomorrow? Why do we have two more fucking months of this?

Right, right, right. This is insane. Right, right, right. We have enough information. Who out there, I asked Terrence this the other night, Aaron, but I ask you, who out there is the guy that's like, well I, listen, I'm really torn between Trump and Harris. Like, I need to hear some more from both sides before I make an informed choice on November 6th or whenever it is.

Dude, I don't, I mean, I was talking to my mom about it actually, and she was saying that she thinks that there are people who are still undecided, but I don't think there are, man. I just don't see it. Well, it's like a Pablo- On the key issues, It's a near lateral move You know right right? This is the weird thing. It's like You saw it in the debate where Trump was talking about the Haitians eating pets and

obviously like the like it's it's wild right because like JD vans and Trump are obviously trying to stir up actual pogroms right and Trump are obviously trying to stir up actual pogroms, right? Like they are actually trying to get a situation and this is a sign of a civilization in deep decay by the way pogroms this kind of like targeting of like communities within a community like this is Deputizing community members to be able to decide who gets to come and go like legally there You know what? I'm right like JD Vance's comments about that like where he said even if the Haitian immigrants to Springfield were legal I'm still calling me illegal Immigrants because the people of Springfield didn't decide they wanted 20,000 Haitian immigrants or whatever it was and it's like just these deeply racist Thanks, and it's like like these deeply racist things and it's like

Like I came into this election So I've been turns for some of this the other day thinking like JD Vance is just like an annoying nuisance And he's like just this clown you know what I mean that's like gonna go away And I'm back to thinking that he deserves to die 100% For inciting blood libel he deserves worse than that if we're being honest and by the way This is just a side tangent But I really have landed on the opinion that his entire life story is a fucking Fabrication and I'm really shocked that no one has like dug into this But like you've got these photos of him

Surfacing of hanging him hanging out in like nice houses in Dallas with his family under the name JD Hamill This motherfucker he alludes to it in his book, like his father's side of the family, but like what the fuck is going on? His life, I even read it in the New York Times today, like his hard scrabble upbringing. This motherfucker didn't have a hard scrabble upbringing. He has a whole other fucking life he never told us about, and he just mined his mom's side of the family for this fucked up memoir but even his mom's side of the family were like route 23 like Okay, like they were like fairly comfortable people you know no one investigated his claims. That's crazy

Anyways another thing though. I wanted to point out there was this story that came out yesterday that said 54% of American support mass deportations which is four percent so that includes Democrats as well absolutely absolutely I mean obviously Jesus Christ yeah it's like a quarter of Democrats and you know by the way like anybody who says Israel is a insane batshit society well you forfeited your right to say that because they are but but so are we. We are fucking batshit, insane, psychopathic society. We're a Hitlerite country is what we are. Well, if you take what James Baldwin says about Israel,

right, it's like, I bet, I think, much worried about this stuff on the Breakfast Club, and like, everybody was like shocked, you know. A woman named Angela said that she was triggered at the mispronunciation of Kamala Harris's name. A woman named Angela said that she was triggered at the mispronunciation of Kamala Harris' name, a woman named Angela. It's like, any Mexican guy that's ever caught her, Angela, you've probably just,

if I can blow in her mind for the day. You know? But, you know, Israel doesn't, it doesn't exist to serve Jewish interests. It exists to serve Jewish interests. It serves, it's, it's exists to serve Western interests. Right. So it's like, it's like, uh, you know, I think that's the important distinction to make in all that, you know, like, it's like, it's such a simple way of just what I've been trying to think about

when people say, Oh, is your anti-Semitic or whatever. It's like Israel was never founded for the safety of the Jewish people or anything like that. You know? Right. I mean, look at Ethiopian Jews who live in Israel and how they're treated, right? We've talked about this before, you know?

Yeah. And also just profiting and capitalizing on the suffering of Jews during the Holocaust. Well, at the same time, saying that they weren't strong enough because they didn't fight back, they were weak, right? I've just really been just absolutely baffled about this concept that the majority, now majority of Americans support mass deportation.

First of all, if you think that, and I'm sure that none of our fucking audience really believes that but like if you have a way To somehow get this to anybody in your life who thinks that I want you to tell them they're a fucking moron Fucking on dude because here's the thing there is This is all abstract no one in this country has any fucking like immigrants to this country don't like No one in this country has any fucking like immigrants to this country don't like What what are they even claiming that they're like fucking like terrorizing people? There's your killing and stealing or their social services that they're they're draining services away from the body politic I told I told Tom just the other day man when we were on the phone, but um

I have a family member who I love dearly who I was talking to the other day and my family and this family member like we all come from or descended from Jamaican immigrants, right? And they live in New York and this person was talking about how they're angry and upset with Eric Adams for giving immigrants in New York healthcare, right, and other social services. Now I'm not even sure if that's true. That's what I was telling you, Tom. I don't know. I guess I could look it up. But just the fact that another immigrant is saying that these immigrants now here do not deserve social services. They don't deserve a leg up.

You know what I mean? It's just so insane to me because it's kind of like, oh, well, you think you came here and did it right. There's a difference between you and this person. Now this person who has done the same thing that you've done, come to this country for a better life, is now undesirable. And me and Tom were just talking about, I was just trying to figure out how does that, when does that switch happen, you know?

Where even people from the same community, you know, is it because people get ginned up with like xenophobic rhetoric? I don't know. I think the thing is I was reading, there is a book by Eric Foner about the, after I finished reading Black Reconstruction, I started reading this book by Eric Foner about the ideology of the Republican Party before the Civil War. I think it's called Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men, something like that. But in the introduction to that, he actually has a very fascinating thing, which he talks about how in the wake of the Fugitive Slave Act and in the wake of the Like fugitive slave act and in the wake of like the Kansas Nebraska Act like a lot

There was a lot of like public apathy and the abolitionists were very discouraged by that But then they like went out and like made their case to the public And like what he was trying to say was that like there a lot of social science research in the lat and he wrote this In the early 90s. He wrote this introduction in the early 90s but like a lot of social science research has shown that like a lot of public opinion is shaped by politicians and so the only way I can look at this is that this is quite literally a result of Politicians everyone from Kamala Harris saying don't come don't come to fucking Donald Trump calling Mexicans rapists and Haitians pet-eating psychopaths or whatever,

they have created that. They've created the space, the discursive space, the paranoia, everything. They've created a false crisis to basically paper over the fact that like several different things like I think it's just painfully obvious at this point that America is in a deep political structural crisis like I called Tom the other night like Like what do you think it was about the 2000 election that like the the liberals didn't? Buck up right like they didn't actually like put their foot down Right and I think that a big part of it man They didn't actually put their foot down. And I think that a big part of it, man, is that America is experiencing a deep structural crisis

over its political constitution. I don't mean the literal paper document. I mean the way it's made up. The Electoral College, it makes no sense. The Relic of the Past, the Senate, the fact that Wyoming has like- Right, we talked about that. Why Wyoming has two fucking senators?

It makes no fucking sense. And it has 500,000 people. There's almost as many people in Lexington Kentucky is in my own did you know did you know in the 1700s Kentucky's Constitution Kentucky as a state started out with people like Henry Clay wanting a one house a unicameral legislature. Like, even people like Henry Clay saw the Senate as an outmoded, outdated, aristocratic... Vestigial organ of the Roman Empire. Yeah, exactly. Like, the Senate should have been done away with a long time ago. Electoral College, the Supreme Court, these are all things that, like, are in an actual functioning democracy

that wasn't just ruled by the fucking pursuit of profit and hollowing out of our lives, you would actually be able to say like, okay, we have to do some serious structural reforms to this. And then Democrats didn't do that. They just went ahead and they said, well, then we can play their game. We'll gin up terror about the border. We will lay down and let Israel do whatever the fuck it wants. We'll go after homeless people and not deal with that at all. I think that this is a con. What I'm saying is that this is a problem of their own making. And that's how you get to Kamala Harris just saying, well, that's extreme without actually fucking saying anything to defend the people that these people are fucking targeting.

Right. Right. You know what? Go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no. Go targeting. Right, right. You know what else? Go ahead, Tom. No, no, no. Go ahead, Aaron. No, it was just nice to side, man. Kind of a side connected. I was just thinking about what you guys are saying. And we've really like lifted up this like, like political like, like organization from

like an ancient society that's like thousands of years dead. You know what I'm saying? And we're plopping that in like as a Senate, you know, like all like this, this kind of like, I guess a, a Greek democracy, you know what I'm saying? And we're plopping that in like as a Senate, you know, like all like this kind of like, I guess a Greek democracy, you know what I mean? And the way that we manifest it in our American politics with all the contradictions of race and capital production, all of that intertwined, you know? And it's just like where for some reason,

like stuck to that sort of, I don't know what it is, man. Maybe it's because, and being an inherently racist conservative country, we see that as a big accomplishment of the Western world, and Western civilization, these political forms, but they don't fucking work, right? At least they don't work for everybody. Yeah, yeah.

What I was gonna say is that I think the sure sign that JD Vance, not that I'm trying to reopen the he's not a real hillbilly thing discourse or whatever, but it's an interesting posture for a man that, you know, is fancies himself the avatar of hillbilly life to, you know, attack Haitians who are in essence the quintessential hillbillies. Like, AT literally means is the Taino word for land of tall mountains. And then you think about like, you know, if I think about my people and our little backwoods churches, you know, and what they're saying about people that practice voodoo and stuff. Reading this book, Black Spartacus, and I don't know if this book is any good yet or

not, I don't know, but by this guy, Suchir Hazari Singh. And he talks about how that like when Toussaint Louboutin had come to power after the slave revolt and stuff that slavers in Jamaica, one guy named Simon something I can't remember was the biggest slave owner in Jamaica. But he in his writings, he said that he would lay in bed feverish at night rolling around worried that Toussaint Louboutin was gonna come slit his throat in his sleep uh-huh that stuff like that and so and it led to people like Thomas Jefferson calling Toussaint Louboutin a cannibal like started that that's where that canard comes from like the Haitians are cannibals and all this stuff and

writings they would talk about how that they would like, the slavers would say that they would be out there practicing divination and possession and voodoo and all these things, the slaves would. And that they were like, and that, you know, the guy that wrote this book says that they were kind of building community around the voodoo religion. But the way the slaves saw it, they saw just these backwards ways of them doing all this stuff.

You know what I mean? So it's like, JD Vance is like, you know, know like Hillbilly is not just a Scotch-Irish thing it's about like the ways of people that live in mountains you know what I mean to me I feel a kinship even with Jamaicans even the story of Bob Marley who grew up in the hills and the Maroons too in Jamaica right yeah yeah and in the same in in Haiti you know I mean well I mean like I mean this is people have said this before but it's just like I mean even my even my family even Jamaicans right have maligned Haitians right you know and it's always like even within the Caribbean and so

it's like Haiti will always suffer right or be punished for being the first black Republican throwing off the shackles of slavery you know yeah yeah it's it's an it's honestly it's like America is really doing, and I genuinely think this is pretty much primarily the result of Israel and everything going on with them, but I really think America's doing like a speed run of its own haunted past. It's like, okay, we're gonna revive the Haitian scare,

which is a fundamental part of American DNA by the way I mean it has to be because you're right like people at like Thomas Jefferson were absolutely terrified of Toussaint Louverture Because they were like Slave rebellion could spread to the United States This is partially... They wanted to quash all that in the Caribbean. I think, you know, that wasn't just policy toward like Santo Domingo either. I think it was like Cuba, obviously.

And it's like, we want to keep our thumb on these places. Like, same thing with Mexico at the border, but like, we want to keep our thumb on the places with black people. You know what I mean? With native people and so on and so forth. You know what I mean? With with native people and so on and so forth You know what I mean? Like we don't want them to get too too scared because we're scared of that proximity, you know It's our backyard right so we have we have we have the right you know to control them Yeah, I mean and then obviously I think that there is this latent

sort of like psychoanalytic There is this latent, sort of psychoanalytic form, this latent repressed guilt and shame over what we did to the natives. You know what I'm saying? To the indigenous in this country. And I just keep thinking back to this line, like there is this line in black reconstruction that like, honestly, like it just, it gives me chills just thinking about it. But like the context in which he's talking is that like, he's talking about like the bargain of 1876,

like the corrupt bargain that ended reconstruction, that like, you know, ended the military occupation of the South, put like some Southern Democrats on the Supreme Court. And it's interesting, the line, I think it's, I don't know it verbatim, but it's something to the effect of like, at this moment, the United States ceased to be a progressive force and became a force for global reaction.

And then because of what he's talking about is that like He's talking about like the specific management of deploying the color line like of racial ideologies to like keep the working class divided and Mass exploitable was then deported worldwide as a form of imperialism and you can quibble with that. I mean, maybe maybe that's not true Maybe it is but I think the basic concept is true that like America had a moment Where it could have redeemed itself through itself you even had like freed slaves in reconstruction governments in the south

talking about governments in the south talking about actually like joining up in governance with indigenous communities like this was it this was a thing like it this wasn't like just this moment where like hopes were dashed or whatever like this was a moment where revolutionary possibility was a thing and you even dude you even had like the people who did reconstruction like tried to actually put revolutionary measures in place Like the reconstruction amendments. I was telling Tom this the other day the 14th amendment It was written to basically say the state's rights aren't a thing anymore

I'm sorry. They aren't and in fact one of the weird ironies is that one of the They aren't. And in fact, one of the weird ironies is that one of the southern Democrats put on the Supreme Court as part of the 1876 bargain was this guy, John Marshall Harlan, from Kentucky, who they all thought was going to side with the Democrats and turned out to be a radical Republican. He was the only guy that voted against Plessy versus Ferguson, or voted or ruled against it. He was the only dissenting voice.

He thought the reconstruction amendments completely did away with states' rights as they should have. We should not have states' rights. That is a thing, a relic of the past. And ever since then, we have just, we've given ourselves over to just this surrender to the rightward drift of everything. You know what I'm saying?

And- Right, right, right. Well, I mean, we were, I remember we were talking on the phone then and we were saying, Adam, why didn't the Democrats, what you had just brought up, why didn't the Democrats challenge, right? You know, the Supreme Court ruling

that handed the election to Bush. And I mean, not only is like the Democratic Party just never been that vehicle or isn't anymore at least that vehicle for any nominally progressive policies at all because as we see they're blatantly moving to the right. But just this country is just I mean there's that as that Du Bois quote he said it's just this country is just like it's just it's inherently reactionary you know. I had a political science professor who said that uh he used to say

that nothing in this country, nothing good ever happens, but nothing ever really bad ever happens. And for years I kind of believe that, right? I kind of believe that the way the institution was set up of this checks and balances, it was to negate any progress at all. But I would actually say, I would actually say, no, it's to make things actively worse and more reactionary, you know, as- I would argue it is, yeah, it is to see exactly what the shabbiest set of circumstances they can put into place without while not threatening their own meal right I mean like they want us to be immiserated to like the just right up to the door that we but to quell enough to quell

revolution but not enough for anybody having dignity you know. Right right right right and I mean this is you You're bringing up Black Reconstruction. You're bringing up actual analysis. I'm about to break up The Walking Dead, but I told you, I've been rewatching it. It's probably a hack point people have said. But I've been rewatching The Walking Dead. One of the things I do enjoy about the earlier seasons and just this version of the zombie apocalypse genre is that everyone is already infected, right? We don't know how. So when you die, even if you don't get bit,

you turn, you know? And I just kept thinking about like how that sort of necrotic, like, innermost ugliness, you know? And this reanimation, right of these old fears and bigotries that are just shambling around. Like, I don't know, I'm thinking like maybe that's why I've been like, like obsessed with this show right in the way that social relations, not even just change, but sort of devolve, you know, into like this cannibalistic omnicidal where you have bandits roaming the hillsides, right? Ready to kill anyone for supplies, and I mean, if you wanna talk about the spectacle in the 24-hour news cycle, I mean, that's exactly what it is, right? I mean, this is probably a hack point saying, we're all zombies, but no, I mean, I've always been interested in that, in that aspect of the genre, that, it's already within us, you know? It's already within America, that ugliness.

It's, it's, it's so weird, though. This is such a bizarre thing, but like William Lloyd Garrison who published The Liberator was like an abolitionist. Those abolitionists thought, and this goes to show you how singularly unique John Brown was, but a lot of those- Only good white man, brother. A lot of these abolitionists like William Lloyd Garrison thought that the Constitution was wholly and comprehensively evil in a pro-slavery document and I read that I'm like, okay, I agree

however, the thing is is that's not the kind of abolitionism that wound up winning and winning the Civil War and doing reconstruction because a lot of those guys like Sam and P chase and a lot of those other abolitionist political abolitionists you would call them, interpreted the Constitution as an inherently anti-slavery document. And there is a thread of American political activism that still plugs into this kind of activism. You can see it in like the Reverend Barber and the Moral Monday stuff, and I don't really have a feeling about it one way or the other but the concept is basically that like You can fix what's wrong with America with what's right with America I know that's a Bill Clinton quote, but like the basic premise

I don't even necessarily have a thought about it one way or the other All right because like genuinely like I don't think you get the Reconstruction amendments in this kind of like revolutionary moment if you hadn't had that interpretation of the Constitution Sure, and there is a way to read America as a fucking experiment or a project that could be liberatory in actual concept in theory But I think at this point Think at this point it's more

That being said let's bed. I'm not putting my money on the better angels of our nature I know my betting app that I can access 24 hours a day I know this is a really fast one point yo, but this this whole shit was constructed and crafted by like slave owners Rapists, you know I mean murderers just the worst fucking people alive. And like, I mean, this is a very like kind of like cosmic horror Lovecraftian point that has there's not material at all. But something about that inject that evil, you know what I mean? And the way it was constructed. I mean, I don't know, man, I even think this is why there's a manifestation of all this wanton violence, right? If people call them bomb threats and

mass shootings and shit like that, you know what I it's almost like this this I don't know this this this tumor You know that is growing outward of this like black bubbling evil you know I mean that's always fucking existed I don't think that like I anywhere in the world I don't think that you have colonialism without some sort of corruption of the soul and damning it to hell and I think that like and I think that like I mean I don't know man the thing that like there are two things really in the past like several months that have kind of like thrown me for a spin and the first one that really fucked me up weirdly enough out of nowhere was the

addition of Tim Waltz to the ticket that's the thing that Rick really fucked me up for some reason and we could like even talk about that if you want, but the second thing, honestly, something about that pager, uh, bombing operation, is just like, to me it signals that like, to me it signals that like, um, it signals something that I've wondered for a long time which is that like at what point do you stop having any kind of like sovereignty or autonomy as an individual and become marked for extinction or expulsion or whatever extermination for just having a set of beliefs and values or whatever and the the the campus protests and the fact that like there's just one

There's now just one issue that you cannot address if you're a teacher or a student on college campuses, and that's Israel Palestine the fact that like now these Fucking psychos have now made a system where they can just like send a device to your home That will fucking kill you or maim you in some way and that will be lauded as some sort of like sophisticated Operation Operation yeah, and then yeah, and it's like and the worst thing things gonna say is well You got to crack a few egg a few eggs to get the omelet that is bringing Hamas to justice, you know listen Look like I sent you guys this in the chat.

I'm just gonna read the title and the subheader because it's the most deranged thing I've ever seen. At least that's saying a lot. But by one Max Boot, the boot, good old Max Boot. Opinion, Hezbollah device attacks. Is this a prelude to war or an alternative? And the subheader reads, first it was pagers that exploded now it's walkie-talkies what Israel might be up to is unclear dude as Israel as being this kind of

laboratory right or using Palestine I should say as a laboratory right for for weapons and surveillance I mean like yeah I believe you I get what you're saying Terrence I could totally imagine this being seen as like well you know we've been maligning terrorism for the past 30 years, right? And these wanton senseless violent attacks. But actually, this might be the more, this might be the better way to do it, you know?

It's a more efficient way to do it. We were talking with the Pindeo Time Boys last night and we concurred that it's like, if you gave the Joker, put the Joker in charge of the drone program you know it's like Adam West era Batman terrorism you know right like you would only see it as sophisticated if you're a literal certifiable psychopath right like there is nothing about that that's even

sophisticated you just go to a fucking manufacturer in Hungary and just be like can you build bombs in the pages what is a board about that is fucking sophisticated it's psychotic and look look like these devices are going to has bottle but yo these are devices that people use the fact that like would be on kitchen tables around children I'll could be playing with it you know what I'm saying it's just again man, I keep using this adjective already, but just this confluence of violence and technology, something that is mass produced. What it is, is it's the concept now, the concept has now extended to, it's not just if you are a, and for the Palestinians this has always been true, but now it's true in Lebanon too And will probably be true in America before a matter of time

But the the premise is now not just that like if you are an individual You are marked for death it now if you're a part of it in community that entire community gets marked for death absolutely, and so I mean that that's that's the implication right the implication is that Israel has such a right to defend itself it has a right to exterminate every body yeah kill everyone on the planet because everyone on the planet is a Threat to its existence in the final accounting I mean so we didn't we literally have to be literally have an Israeli official Using like the examples of Gog and Magog or something like that it says some shit like

Oh, and like Israel's enemies have to be destroyed. You know I'm gonna be honest with you You're not wrong the world does hate them Because they're Jewish because they're annoying sack of their omnicidal yo Well, and they've claimed the right to just be able to kill anyone, anywhere, at all times, which Americans have also claimed as well. I guess the difference is that America is not constructed on top of a literal ethnosupremacist ideology. And this gets back to the earlier thing, which is that, like, do you read the Constitution

as an ethnosupremacist document? It's like, well, I mean, maybe, maybe not, but like, there is a way to read it where it's not, and so you guess you have that plausible deniability, but like, with Israel, the logic has fully reached its sort of terminal endpoint, right? Like, it's put up or shut up. This is why I said it was the primary contradiction a few weeks ago to cries of me being a pseudo- intellectual and a moron What I meant was that like this

It's it's got to the point where the United States has to put up or shut up about it And obviously they've shown what they're gonna do about it. They're gonna kill everyone on the planet and us Unless his room gets whatever it wants and the United States I mean you have to think about that activist like that American activist that was killed, you know, that woman, that young woman. And it's like, I mean, look at the way that she was spoken about, you know, by, by, by, you know, spokes, spokes, spokespeople for the Biden administration. Like, you know, Israel is looking into it. I'm sure Israel will investigate this, you know, right.

And just absolve itself of any responsibility or just say it was an accident, admitting that they actually do target protesters, non-violent protesters. Well, that's the scary thing to me is it's not outside of the realm of possibility these people start doing these fucking cell phone bomb thing on college protesters. They've already said that they're Hamas sympathizers.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, you start getting 18, 19 year old kids maimed by these fucking freaks. I mean, I can see it plain as day. You know what I mean? And the thing is, is they won't do anything about it because this, again, in a healthy functioning society, this would present a serious issue.

It would present an issue over rights, over citizenship, over all these things, over autonomy that the state would things, over autonomy, that the state would have to deal with. But the state isn't even interested in dealing with its own structural issues at this point. Like, for example, the fact that every election that a conservative has won in the last 30 years, they've lost the popular vote. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? There are these structural issues that they can't even do to get themselves out of this and they just

Kind of keep kicking the can further down the road and their answer to it is just high militarism right just like a kind of like neo-liberal fascism where they Have to like I said earlier a lot ally with the neo cons of yesterday to basically be able to fend off the product of those contradictions come like bubbling up oozing up out of the fucking soil out of the ground Well, I mean one of one of the ways you solve that contradiction. We're seeing in Atlanta, right with this You know this these Conservatives and these liberals kind of teaming up is cop city

right liberals they have liberals and Democrats in Atlanta and Georgia have no qualms about cop city you know what I mean as some sort of mock city that cops are going to train in to quell urban protests right obviously it's almost like urban guerrilla warfare right doing there you know but liberals don't give a shit about it they've resigned themselves to not even resigned I'm think they've actively pushed right this vision of the future that involves Surveillance that involves stamping down. No, not just you know free speech, but a right to assembly the right to protest This is a kind of tangent

but honestly a really bizarre thing that I've not really seen a whole lot of people comment on the the Them going after the father of that school shooter in Georgia Like arresting him for like second-degree murder or whatever like it's like yeah like yeah I mean you shouldn't allow your child to have access to the those kind of weapons especially if he's mentally ill or whatever But it's just a kind of another example of how like we're just not gonna do anything about this Structurally we're just gonna do it, but we're gonna deal with it punitively just like okay. Well. We're just going to Put more people in prisons rather than actually dealing with the fact that this man is going to have another son and buy him Like just get rid of the problem get rid of the one

Like just get rid of the problem get rid of the one atomized problem the Individual or the community as you said instead of dealing with any of the structurally right they can't did they can't deal with any of that though for multiple reasons, but the It's it's just a weird thing man It's like my own disgust with the Democrats was like so thorough that I didn't even really think about it But like I didn't even really think about the whole like putting up Kamala in like, you know, not in a primary, but them just appointing her as the next. And nobody look, man, you had two factions, two factions, right? People I was saying, oh, it should be Kabbalah and then it should be Joe.

It was very, I think it was only like on the left that I heard that people say, oh, it should be like a contested primary. And this should be like, you know what I mean? Nobody said that. I was so disgusted with the Democrats at that point. Didn't want anything to do with them, and still am, that I didn't even see it that way. I wasn't even like,

they could put up the farthest left candidate and I'd be good with it. Like I was just like, this party is so comprehensively and wholly evil that I don't see that but I still think that's true. They're not gonna deal with any of this stuff So, I don't know I didn't They're neck-and-neck though Trump and Harris. I just can't believe that I just that's so funny that they're neck-and-neck You know dude, like all right one last thing man Let's do take one say is like, just to continue with the assassination shit.

Yo, it's just, I really would have thought that this would have given him a boost. But again, I don't think it's even just a news cycle. I think that he is so ashamed that he almost died that he doesn't even want to capitalize on it. He did it in the debate, but he mentioned it once. And now it's how you know he was desperate. For him to mention his own mortality,

you know it's a precipitate That's a man that can't express any degree of vulnerability You know what I mean? And the fact that somebody came for your head top not once but twice And they're still neck-and-neck like what would happen or or maybe the conspiracy people that think that You know That this was ginned up to give him a bump in the poles or something again. You're like, well, it worked the first time he got shot. Let's try it again. You know what I mean? That's literally what my left driver said the

other day what he thought it was. He thought it was a conspiracy. He thought it was a good conspiracy. You know, like the guy was wearing like a bush costume. It wasn't really a real bush. It was like a ghillie suit, but it was just a whole bush, you know. Maybe an unintended consequence of everything becoming so janky and shabby is that to? The bulwarks for the powerful people against us the hoary masses are also getting right breaking down Yeah, I did it's possible. I mean I Don't. I mean, I don't know. I mean, something that's interesting is like I've been so disconnected from liberal discourse that like I keep hearing this idea that Trump's

going to try to steal the election. And, and every time I hear it, it's always like hitting hit me like a novel idea. I'm like, oh shit, I didn't mean to think of that. Put it in his pocket, run out the store, some shit like that. Like, what they be still every election is fucking stole this country, but I don't think we do I guess Well, yeah, he's gonna try to assume that he's after like a Democratic election that he is now the president I think the point is is that if you have a if you have a situation where you don't even see the point running Against someone because you think they're gonna steal it then like you have to do some serious self-reflection interrogation over like

is the system still working like it should be? And shouldn't you run from the position that like that system should change like I if this was like because a Recurring theme that I keep thinking reading black reconstruction was like how do political movements get made? Is it just some sort of like historical substance that like gets? Manifested in like a large body politic of movement You know like I let it marinate in the fridge overnight right exactly or is it just like you need strong leaders And they rally the masses and whatever But it is wild that like no movement has been articulated that would simultaneously like be able to say like

the political system needs deep, deep reform. Seriously. This is not even just a fucking, like me saying this from a liberal point of view, like objectively, the fucking things wills are falling off. Like it's, it needs serious structural structural reform take it to the fucking maintenance shop But also like this the idea of like what constitutes a human what constitutes like human rights like serious like again Like from homelessness to citizenship or whatever. It's like why is this not being articulated? Why can't it be? That's the question I keep coming back to. You know, this is maybe a tangent,

but you know what I was thinking, and it probably is actually, I think Alexander Vinyar recommended a book like this to me, but I just keep thinking about what if there was election and nobody voted, you know what I mean? Like what if people were just so fed up and just so like kind of like, I mean, just wanted to sit this one out

that nobody actually showed up You know I mean how would how would it how would it discontinue? I don't think you would happen people people love to vote in this country. It's the only fucking man It's the last thing me Tom. We're talking about this. Yes, just yesterday. It's the last thread of fucking Empowerment that they have left. It's like oh, I matter my voice matters, right? Hell they wouldn't even let me vote in the last election till I could produce some identification. I thought that was illegal Yeah, I did in fairness. I did bring them a postcard for a part recall on my truck

Well Well anyways, I mean that's that back cover It's pretty much about covers everything over the last two weeks or so I feel I feel like maybe you always feel like there was one insane. I mean so many at the same things happen, man. Oh I mean, this is really random, but I heard RFK is like I Think he's in some legal issues for Something about a magic a whale so think about it. It's a funny. You said his name That's literally the first time I even thought about him and

Yeah, you just kind of faded Decapitated well, so also I will have to say that i for a minute you know it used to be that i always forgot forgot that kamala uh kamala was a vice president you know um and you know joe biden being the president but joe has like really slipped so much to the background you know yeah and like they've switched roles that I actually, I've forgotten about this man. Who's QB1 right now, you know? That's the question. I still hold serious, serious, you know, hesitations about November and the liberals ability to win. Like, it feels like the Trump era is over.

But like, what happens if they win and the Trump era is over? Like, what do we do with an exhausted stroke? Yeah, like a historically exhausted figure who nonetheless is still on the stage. Like, I just keep thinking about that Mike Davis line in that in that essay That I was you know his last written essay everyone is quoting Gramsci on the interregnum But that assumes that something new will be or could be born. I doubt it I think that what we must diagnose those instead is a ruling class brain tumor a growing inability to achieve any coherent understanding of global

change as a basis for defining common interests and formulating large scale strategies." I think what he's saying is that the ruling class is kind of terminal in a way, like in their own sense. In the sense that they can't even, an interregnum would imply that they have some way to step forward. Right. But it doesn't really seem like there is. An interregnum would imply that they have some way to step forward. But it doesn't really seem like there is that. They just, the Hot Wheels cars on the track just going around and around and around and

around, you know what I mean? Until the batteries die or something. Until you plug it out. Well, I guess that about covers it for this week. Does anybody have any final thoughts? Nah, I'm just about to go back and watch The Walking Dead and now it's really depressing to think about. Not that we're headed towards a zombie apocalypse, but in that show, I said earlier that you

see the way social relations drastically change, but nothing ever really changes in that show. They're always running It's an entire nightmare. You know nothing ever really gets better. You know I think that's probably the I Think that's probably gonna be it It's just like I get it I get like panic attacks thinking about like what is happening to the minds of everybody like my mom's a teacher and she's like The she's been a teacher for like 20 years now. Yeah about 20 years now, and she's like, she's been a teacher for like 20 years now.

Yeah, about 20 years now. And she's like, the gradual deterioration I've witnessed in children's attention span is astonishing. She's like, kids cannot focus on anything anymore. It's just like, it's that kind of stuff. I'm like, what are we doing? Like what kind of society are we making? both like psychosocially and Structurally political economically like what are we doing? Like listen man, my you know

uh, my nephew is about to be four and um, you know, he's multiple devices multiple tablets and one thing that I keep thinking about is that I remember using that Mavis typewriter program in elementary school and middle school that would teach you how to typewrite with the QWERTY keyboard. And he knows that when he, my nephew knows that when he taps an icon on a touchscreen that there's some reaction or response. Like I watched him skipping ads. He's three years old I watch him skipping ads on YouTube

By Bob's fold and I was just so horrified at that moment where I'm just like man I mean, you know, man, I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not like no I should be a lot I everyone should be a little this thing is like I'm trying to not to become a crank But I'm obviously becoming a crank but like I just see these things and I'm like, I'm trying to not to become a crank, but I'm obviously becoming a crank, but like I just see these things and I'm like I'm sorry. I think online gambling is bad. I think night. Don't give me the nitrous. I don't want the nitrous today like I You know I don't know Yeah, I'm so against that next time I go in for a root canal will say no I'm gonna run my want the full effect of this on the raw dog this for now I

I want the full effect of this. I want a Rob Douglas root for that. I always get weirded out about that anyway. I'm like always afraid that I like divulge some deep dark secret to like an unsuspecting nurse or dentist, you know? Right. I killed Jimmy Hoffa. I killed, I know where Hoffa's at

as I just succumb to the... God, man. succumb to the God All right gang well We appreciate you listening if you'd like to go to the patreon please do so the link will be in the show notes So go sign up over there for additional content Until then I hope you'll have a good weekend. And keep it real. We'll see you next time.

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