Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 377: Benthocracy In America

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

This week we're covering MAGA Granny, General Mark Milley's portraiture removal, the weird new Stargate AI initiative, the backlash against DEI, and much more Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/t...rillbillyworkersparty

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh my god, man. Well, let me ask you boys a question. If you were a Relatively famous person that could be a pitch man. Where do you draw the line on a check? I mean, there's obviously red lines Which is my beef with Snoop Dogg not even the Trump thing as much as like him being at the Olympics waving the Israeli flag Like come on man. Yeah Yeah, either pull either shit like that. I draw a line against or if Like if I was to hawk for a brand that like especially a clothing brand or something like they wanted me to wear their shit And I didn't like it, you know, like I had to wear a hat all the time or something like that or a t-shirt
Starting point is 00:00:37 You know, you're not a hat guy. I'm not since my hair grew back brother I'm not a hair group back brother, actually, nah man. You son of a bitch. I'm still waiting for that to happen to me. There's just some collecting cobwebs and the guy put them in the mothballs and shit like that, you know, pulling back out when I'm middle-aged perhaps. Would you ever wear like a bowler, like a fedora or something like, you know, like an old school, you know, player type hat, you know what I mean? Fedoras get a bad rap, not that I wouldn't wear a fedora because they get a bad rap, which I don't know why
Starting point is 00:01:06 man, but I don't think I look good in them. I think I got like a peanut head and I don't got the shape for it. It's like a gaunt skeleton coming out of, flowering out of, coming out of the bottom of a fedora. That hat that Melania Trump wore at the inauguration, would you ever wear one of those hats? Ain't that the hat that the lady in 101 101 Dalmatians wore like a hat like that? Or like the hat man To me it looks like Kung Lao from Mortal Kombat's hat. You know when he'd throw a hat and he'd saw you in half? He throws it right and it like cuts you in half. You imagine wearing a hat that had like a sharp blade on the brim like that
Starting point is 00:01:42 That shit would simultaneously go so hard and like every time you like just adjust it, you'd like slash your hand open, you know what I mean? You can't get on crowded subways, trains, you can't get on crowded buses, anywhere where you gave it a slight tater motherfucker on the train. Just got one motherfucker bit.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah, my bad bro, my bad. Man, please, it got the goddamn murder hat. Well. Yeah, like you sit down at Sunday Brunch with your family and everybody has to take their hat off to pray And you just cut like you cut everybody on like all sides of you just everybody's just bleeding out like like all sides of you, just everybody's just bleeding out. Like. The sound of the. For some reason you just had me thinking about like, what if it was a hat like that, right?
Starting point is 00:02:31 But this is the hat that's passed around for collections, you know, during Sunday service prayer. But it's also like that device from dude where you stick your hand in it and it creates incredible pain on your head. So every time you want to make a donation or pay your tides or whatever like mm-hmm You have to you have to possibly suffer from I don't know what it is man. That's so say sharp teeth You know could be rusty nails
Starting point is 00:02:56 That's so tight in Did I fucking hate in fuck then you hate doing fuck doon, bro I fucking hate doing fuck doing you hate doing fuck doing bro What's your tech on Lynch's dude, it's fun it's it's whatever I mean it's I've never seen it I saw it. I saw one night showed to me by an older woman when I was very intoxicated by a number of drugs and I thought it was the greatest thing ever, man. I'd never read the books, but compared to the, what's that guy's name? V-V-V-V-V-V-Vanilla?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah, I just, yeah. Danny V-N-E-V-N-I- Vanilla? Dennis Vanilla. Dennis Vanilla. Directed to Dune. It's the whitest guy you've ever met Towards like Middle Eastern politics, you know what I'm saying? It's the it's a whitewash do you name a black dude named Dennis?
Starting point is 00:04:00 The guy that played the president in 24. Oh, his name is Dennis? Dennis Washington? Dennis Master. That's Denzel. He's like family dollar Denzel. Dennis Washington? Dennis Hageburg. Did you just Google black Dennis's?
Starting point is 00:04:19 I saw your eyes light up. Dennis is a black Dennis. Well I mean Terrence, then you would find some solidarity, you know. As a white Terrence. As a white Terrence. White Terrence Black Dennis.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Ha ha ha! They'll sound like characters from a fucking Teratino film for some reason. White Terrence and Black Dennis. White Terrence Those sound like characters from a fucking Tarantino film White Terrence black Dennis, I'm thinking of Dennis Hayes Bert Feel like one and in a Dennis is also very rare Thank more like Denise did Dennis vanilla is the funniest name. I think I've ever I was listening to a friend of the show Josh Olson
Starting point is 00:05:16 Joe Dante's tribute to Lynch and they made a good point they were like Lynch's dune is a mess, but like at least like put some color to it Well, new things are just all brown. It's got memorable it has memorable scenes and Set pieces whereas like a month ago They were circulating. I mean every every few weeks they do this like on Twitter like stills from the new dune and circulate and they're like The way this scene hit me, man, like it's not been the same ever since. And like I saw one of those literally the day after
Starting point is 00:05:48 I saw Eyes Wide, I went and watched Eyes Wide Shut at the theater, the Kentucky Theater here. And just like a throwaway shot from Eyes Wide Shut is like a million times better than the best fucking shot in Dune. It's like, you know what I mean? It's just like, I don't hate it. It's just like, it's just sludge. It's like nothing about know what I mean? It's just like, I don't hate it.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's just like, it's just sludge. It's like nothing about it stuck out. I don't remember anything from it. Like. It's not just by virtue of even the color palette. Like not even, it's not, it just doesn't inspire any excitement, you know? It makes me wanna, I fell asleep during the first one.
Starting point is 00:06:21 The second one I guess is more entertaining, but that's just because like it had more action to it I guess. I don't know what happened in the story, I cannot tell you. Yeah, I'm gonna take some heat for that one. Did you go watch the fast approaching middle-aged male sexual anxiety Nicole Kidman double feature Eyes Wide Shut and Baby Grown? I did not see Baby Grown, not yet.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Well let me tell you if you do don't go sit in the middle of the afternoon and pick the back left seat. People the ticket counter look at you sideways. That's why I always sit. Like this is not that kind of theater sir sorry. Those Those closed down over 30 years ago. Oh. Well boys, um... There's a number of things we could discuss today if you have any interest in discussing them. Um... Cornucopia of current events. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I just want to start off... Cornucopia. There's a few things, a few funny things that have happened, and then there's a... A few terrifying and horrifying things that have happened, and then there's a few terrifying and horrifying things that have happened. One of the funny things that's happened so far in the new Trump presidency was, portrait of General Milley is removed from Pentagon. The Pentagon on Monday removed a portrait
Starting point is 00:07:39 of General Mark A. Milley. Milley Vanilli, I thought that was you. A Milley, a Milley, a Milley. Thisey Vanilli, I thought that was you. A-Milley, a-Milley, a-Milley. This is what Lil Wayne's biggest hit was about. It's a portrait of Lil Wayne, actually. Trump has called General Milley a quote, woke train wreck. The president has complained in particular about the General's calls to his Chinese counterpart
Starting point is 00:08:04 during the waning weeks of Trump's first term an Act the president in a post on truth social called so egregious that in times gone by the punishment should have been would have been death Like can I just say I like I like how he's flirting. I know that people call him a wannabe dictator, but I like how he's leaning into it, because from what I know, maybe he had the same kind of rhetoric during his first run, but he was talking about jailing journalists,
Starting point is 00:08:38 and now he's talking about punished by death. You know what I mean? That's pretty funny, man. I mean, it would be pretty hilarious if they executed a general. The former. Like on the Washington ball. Like where MLK stood.
Starting point is 00:08:57 The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's apparently, this is unprecedented. Taking down the general's portrait is unprecedented the chairman the position of chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is viewed as a political so I You know it's it's just kind of like um You know I guess I find it funny because It's kind of like the US establishment sort of eating itself right it's like
Starting point is 00:09:24 But but but like I don't there's been a lot said about this, but I do think it's true. Like there's been a lot said about it in the New York Times and everything that like Trump is back for blood this time. Like this is his vengeance tour. And I do think it's true. It's like he is, and that's what's kind of so terrifying about it and that's why I like really hesitate
Starting point is 00:09:41 to like make light of everything that's going on right now. Because like, if I could just like say up front like editorialized like Dark dark vibes. I've got so far this week not just because You know interpersonal matters of my own physical health like Recovering from TV sound a lot better. I do sound a lot better. You're right You're the magic Johnson of tuberculosis
Starting point is 00:10:11 Finally somebody beat it. I look white Terrence magic But uh, but no it's dark man. It's some dark shit um but But yeah, no, but before I would talk a little bit more about the the dark stuff I did want to highlight this really funny story Trump pardoned her for storming the Capitol. This is in New York Times absolutely not she said Pamela him pale 71 of Boise, Idaho who served 60 days in prison Said it would be quote an insult to the Capitol Police if she accepted the pardon Hold up wouldn't it be what it wasn't an insult to the Capitol Police that you tried to do
Starting point is 00:11:03 God imagine being so sold out to the cops you reject a pardon. Nah, this is like going to jail and finding like the one truth of the one true God Allah, you know what I'm saying? And started reading the Quran and shit. Like does she have some sort of psychological, like you know what I mean, like rehabilitation?
Starting point is 00:11:21 When she realized what she did was not wrong, I guess deranged. It's like you convert to Islam like right before your sentence is commuted and you get released from jail. No, no, no Listen, I have to I have to serve out the full, you know my full sentence here with my brothers and you know You know in a lot. Yes Absolutely not she said in an interview on Wednesday. She, MissHimpHill71 who has been called Magga Granny in some headlines said she no longer supports Trump or believes his lie that the
Starting point is 00:11:58 2020 election was stolen. She said that a therapist had helped her change her view of the attack by telling her she was quote not a victim of January 6 I was a volunteer so therapy works men. I'm listening That's a therapeutic overreach in my opinion Now listen brother. They did the clockwork orange what they call the libido the libido technique or whatever like that when they they prod And show her pictures of like Hillary Clinton waiting underneath the glass ceiling in 2016. And waiting.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It's just a damage over and over again of her shattering the glass ceiling. Of hundreds of people congregating at the Javits Center. Slowly growing more morose as the hours pass. Oh boy. She said, if I accept a pardon oh She said it's an insult to the Capitol Police to the rule of law into the nation if I accept a pardon I'm continuing their propaganda their gas lighting and all their falsehoods. They're putting out there about January 6
Starting point is 00:12:59 I lost my I lost my critical thinking she said on Wednesday, so You lost your critical thinking as a septuagenarian. Okay. But like what I do what I do want to say though is that I do respect this woman though because it takes a lot of force of conviction, right? To say that I did not deserve to spend my time, my life ruined because I did something moronic. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:25 Like it takes a lot of courage to like just be like, no, like conviction, I'd rather encourage, some more courage to be like, no, actually I should be punished, you know? Because my ass would be like, yo, get out of jail free card, bro. I only got a few years left, you know what I'm saying? Listen, God allows you turns, why not Trump?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Right, right. There's nothing more American than escaping accountability for your actions. This is 100% true. allows you turns why not Trump right right there's nothing more American than escaping accountability for your actions this is a hundred percent true but but also there's nothing more American than loving the rule of law and cops that's also she's a she's it she's it like this superposition right now you know she is infallible she is like morally rock-solid in every direction I do have one question though
Starting point is 00:14:11 So she she did 60 days, and then she was out right right so like having her sentence pardon Would just basically wipe that from the record right yeah, okay? So like functionally like there's nothing to be No, I mean if she was like at 71 you well you get a traffic ticket They're gonna throw you back in jail for being part January 6 You know is it like is it like if you're a felon or some shit like that? You can't live in public housing so she can't live in the nearest retirement home Like she's black listed or some shit like that right or she can't get a job at Lake Kroger or something because As a welcome lady, right?
Starting point is 00:14:39 That's cold world I'm ask you a question if we checked in on the guy from Knot County that inadvertently did January 6th? Oh, I bet he's been pardoned. How do you inadvertently, do you just, are you just like recording it? Brother, he was- And just pushes you into the- From what I can tell, he basically just got lonely
Starting point is 00:14:59 and got on a bus and that bus was headed toward insurrection. Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! And listen, honestly, could have happened to any of us. Yo, this is true because it's not like the bus, like you know, the bus sign, you know, above the windshield said like January 6th, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:15 like we're headed to the cap, you know what I mean? Like, like if it was a Greyhound, you could just hop through it any bus, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, if I check a bus out and somebody says get on, and as long as everybody's not wearing the same sweat suit and Nikes, I might go along for the ride. DC in January, why not?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah, but if he saw like the QAnon shaman, you know that guy that was dressed in furs and shit like that, he still got on the bus. You got to ask yourself, where's this bus going? If the shaman was there in full regalia, I probably would've said, I'll catch you next time. I'll wait for the next time. Sorry, I gotta wash my hair.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I can't do January 6th. Are you sure he was from Nott County, Tom? I can't find anything about Nott County. I mean, there's a bunch of- He's from Eastern Kentucky. Maybe he's from Pressensburg? There's a- I can't remember. He not can't. I mean, there's a bunch. He's from Eastern Kentucky. Maybe he's from Pressensburg. There's a. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Who's from Eastern Kentucky somewhere? There's a guy from Harrodsburg maybe. That might be it. No, he was definitely from Eastern Kentucky. All the guys, it seems like all the people from Kentucky that got arrested on January 6th were from Louisville. Like literally. See, I mean, yeah, that makes total sense. Hillbillies ain't getting, most
Starting point is 00:16:28 of us ain't getting on a bus. I ain't got time for insurrection, man. I gotta go vote against my own interest, you know? I gotta go, I got copper to steal. You know I mean it's just Ain't got time for all that um This back to the MAGA granny, there's just I wanted to give a shout out to at lib crusher On Twitter or on X. I'm sorry the everything app Who said that? This is the exact person that the Biden Harris campaign was going after It that is spot-on. They were literally trying to Get people who would be dumb enough to reject a presidential pardon for their
Starting point is 00:17:19 participation in January 6 That was their base. Oh So are you saying that like to circumvent even trying to appeal to these people that perhaps Democrats should just lock people up and have them do the levito, the clockwork orange technique in jail so they come out Democratic, like stringent Democratic supporters? 100%. Basically Democrats are going to send people to jail to turn them into Democrats. That's what they should do.
Starting point is 00:17:46 That'd be so tight. So good. Well, listen when a new strain of fucking Walrus flu forces us all back indoors and the PPP loans, they roll those out again and all that kind of stuff. Of course the PPP loans will be paid out doge this go-round, but whatever you know It's you know probably probably be one of those things where it's like just accepted everywhere before too long I'll tell you I'll tell you somebody's not leaving any money on the table this go-round. That's Thomas D sexton I think Tom did Tom freeze. Oh he did, you're right.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I didn't even notice. Tom, you're frozen. Uh oh. Tom is in a state of superposition. He is. State of superposition. I also want to say too that, that in any case that,
Starting point is 00:18:42 I mean maybe this connects to what Tom was saying, but that septuagenarian, you know that the Democrats are going after, I mean she would have died in the pinniput plague, the walrus virus that Tom is talking about, and these are the exact people that Joe Biden convinced to show up to the polls and go vote during COVID, you know what I mean, in Florida and shit.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So it's just like, they want you to die. Oh, Tom had to leave I guess. Well, that's the funny thing about the whole canard about people voting against their interests like if you vote in America you are by definition voting against your interests like There's not a you don't get to say as a liberal that conservatives vote against their interests when you as a liberal are voting for The continuation of this stuff you are by definition also voting against your interest. I'm sorry boys my internet dropped We're talking about John Federman what we done
Starting point is 00:19:38 Talk about John Federman was a was a patient zero or possibly the cause of the walrus virus that you were just talking about. Oh, God. Yeah, that's what, man, I said it last, but I really hate that son of a bitch. Yeah, man. I don't know if I hate him or Eric Adams, but probably both equally. I think I want to use the Kung Lao hat and saw him in half and then take his unseemly innards and skeleton and sell him to that medical oddities museum in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You would have Mortal Kombat finish him? Yeah, yeah. Like pull his spine up out of his back? If you could Mortal Kombat finish Jon Ferdinand, what would you do? Oh man, I don't know. Probably put my fist through his chest, probably. Pull out his beating heart. Oh, that'd be so sick.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Oh. Ha ha ha. Would you go animality, maybe? And what's animality? Remember Mortal Kombat 2, they could morph into animals and eat you. Oh, they had anphous for the fatality That's easy Luke. Kang. Luke. Kang was a dragon even though technically
Starting point is 00:20:50 I don't know if that qualifies as animality. That's more I would cryptid that cryptid ality. I would change into a gorilla and give John Federman a fighting chance You know Beating senseless with your two big arms Just pull it to death Bait subsistence it is dumb. I know how they had like um in like Spanish colonial California like where we get the terms bear and bull market are from
Starting point is 00:21:27 Like Caballero's used to like put a bear and a bull in a fighting pin and make them fight And they would take bets on which one would win and that's where we get the term bear market and bull market Dude, that is so gruesome. Holy shit. Yeah, so I mean Latina de Oso Latina de tora yeah I think it's just the bull store and the the bear store bull store in the bear store. Yes Where you could go to buy fan gear for either the bull or the bear Tear each other apart. I'm just thinking throw Fetterman in there with the two of them They'll team up you know what I mean like it'll be like that thing like what the establishment truly fears It'll be like the bear like Godzilla Godzilla versus Kong. Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:07 He has a poor slope-shouldered humpback physiognomy he wouldn't last a second in the arena no Despite being big he's a guy you could tear down pretty quick Yeah, you just kick him in his knees or some shit his ankles where he's weakest. Yeah. Yeah, and also he's always wearing shorts So they're. Yeah, yeah. And also he's always wearing shorts so they're exposed. Yeah, God. That's my go-to plan. This little weird like legs with no hair on them, you know. You know those guys that are just like all torso like I used to be one of those guys
Starting point is 00:22:38 until now I've got the legs of Thor thankfully. But you know we're just kind of got that muffin top effect and they've just got those long skinny legs with no hair on them. Yeah, brother, I'm afflicted with the Gumby physiognomy, you know. That's alright. That's a good physique. Link brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Life. Um Well, I thought that I think that concludes the Funny portion of the Trump 2.0 news and there's not really a whole lot. Although There is funny shades to this new this next story I don't know if y'all if y'all were keeping close tabs on this story I myself I'm kind of a little confused as to like what it is and what it means But it was the announcement yesterday of the White House's $100 billion AI initiative. OpenAI, Oracle, and SoftBank formed a new joint venture
Starting point is 00:23:38 called Stargate to invest in data centers building on major US investments in technology. So President Trump on Tuesday announced a joint venture between OpenAI, SoftBank, and Oracle to create at least $100 billion in computing infrastructure to power AI. The venture called- So hold up, they're giving real money to something fake?
Starting point is 00:23:56 To something that's not a thing? Okay. It's in the name. Artificial. Artificial. Yeah. Listen, I know like, you know, I listen to some people from time to time that are like, you know, AI is coming whether you want it to or not, like you need to embrace it and all that kind of stuff. It's just like the internet, you know, it's the next wave of whatever But like can can have we ever stopped to think that like all innovation isn't good You know just like just like every fucking spawn con check ain't good. It ain't a good check. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:37 What do we get now this deal really like you know like we're not doing anything medically with Tom froze up once again Oh, oh there. a fucking I you said we We heard you say just how every spawn con check isn't good. What was the statement after? Oh, I said like every innovation ain't good either. You know what I mean? Like, uh-huh What do we what are we getting with this AI shit? like, you know your uncle thought he saw Kamala Harris's titties or something like yeah At the expense of like a whole entire pod of like blue whales or some shit like that. You know I'm saying yeah You know you get some mildly interesting screen savers. I don't know like
Starting point is 00:25:23 The well okay, so you're asking what you get with this. Here you go, Tom. The venture, called Stargate, adds to tech companies' significant investments in US data centers, huge buildings full of servers that provide computing power. Stargate could eventually invest as much as $500 billion over four years. The three companies plan to contribute funds to the venture,
Starting point is 00:25:46 which will be open to other investors and start with 10 data centers already under construction in Texas. This just sounds to me like it just benefits Texas. How's this benefit me in Kentucky? Also too, what are these, it's all just like, it's all like fictitious, you know? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's like, these things aren't even materials, just these data centers, you know what I mean? Like, and also's these things aren't even materials just these data centers You know what I mean? Yeah, like it like and also too. I just I was thinking about how we were talking about a space exploration on the Encolonization on a patreon and I just find it interesting that this this is this initiative or whatever is called Stargate You know because like really they they know I think or I mean we all kind of know that we're not gonna colonize Mars, we're not gonna mine asteroids, right? We're not gonna venture out into the stars. Capital has nowhere else to go.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I mean, even the planet Earth itself will soon one day be exhausted. You say that, but the slogan of Cook and Sons mining in White Spur, Kentucky in 2001 was, Earth first, we'll mine the other planets later. It is later. later but I'll be like this like it's just all they have to do now is just to mind you know like people you know I mean right you know longer than products and services and
Starting point is 00:26:55 shit like that that don't even exist but somewhere in the cloud you know yeah um well he said um during a news briefing Tuesday mr. Trump said he would remove barriers to allow for the creation of more data centers he said during a news briefing Tuesday, Mr. Trump said he would remove barriers to allow for the creation of more data centers. He said it would make emergency declarations, quote unquote, to allow Stargate to generate its own electricity without providing details. This monumental undertaking is a resounding declaration of confidence in America's potential, Trump said.
Starting point is 00:27:21 We're gonna make it easy as it can be. Brother, they're gonna cover, in true Balardian fashion, they're gonna cover the entire Earth with data centers. Every surface area of Earth will be covered with data centers. They'll have to put data centers in orbit, because there's no more space on Earth for these shit. Well, you liberals weren't crying about it
Starting point is 00:27:40 when it was fucking solar panels. You know? Let me ask you a question. What, is there a good idea you've seen, like a good new idea you've seen in the last five years? Probably whatever Cuba did with that lung cancer vaccine. Yeah, they were cooking that. That is true.
Starting point is 00:28:04 That is true. That's about the last good idea anybody ever had. And I think China tried to like do some shit when they try to like eliminate kids all together I don't know I'm speaking out of my ass but anything I see come out of China you know it's made in Cuba is always like wow we can do good things. Not really new but kind of a new to us a throw back the Russians try to bring back phage therapy a couple years ago right a smattering of applause Right that had big I had big time potential. I was very excited about that then then the war broke out and I was like Well, fuck nobody's gonna do phage therapy now They're siege in Ukraine
Starting point is 00:28:43 It's a shame really we'll pick up the battle for phage And a damn Klitschko brother one of those guys that ruined the heavyweight division none of them got marked in that whole affair Uh-huh There was the Russian dude, I guess that touched the nuclear rod That wasn't that wasn't very bright at Chernobyl. Yeah why did he do that? That was pretty that was going with your question of have there been any good ideas lately that was a bad idea. Very bad idea. That was like was it Eddie money that what he did like drank some bathtub gin and had 16 heart
Starting point is 00:29:22 attacks and like one night. Can you tell me that one time dance Yeah, yeah, I think he did I think he had like 16 heart attacks in a night or something very bad You have one of those you're having a bad night, you know your heart is like let me go you bastard He wasn't let he wasn't having it take me home tonight home I mean to Valhalla the great beyond yeah over you point is some some things are so dumb you just can't really come back from you know what I mean this isrence, let me ask you a question about this. So was this, I mean, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:30:09 maybe we can move on, but was this something that was not already in place before Trump got in office? I'm sure this was negotiated with the Biden administration too, right? It was, yes, as the New York Times points out, this was something that was already in motion before Trump took office but but yeah Trump you know gets to take credit for it
Starting point is 00:30:32 fuck does Biden know about data centers bro I mean I think you've brought up the image a lot the Aaron but like I just I love the image of Biden looking at the quantum computer just like, what is this Jack? And like I think that the um I think it's newsworthy it's it's it's newsworthy for a whole bunch of reasons but like um there's several different things here to unpack um one of which is that it coincides with the entire like tech Silicon Valley tech elite like pivoting towards Trump like Sam Altman was on Twitter like just yesterday basically saying like well, I mean like I actually you know like What he said watching POTUS more carefully recently has really changed my perspective on him I wish I had done more of my own thinking and definitely fell in the NPC trap a guy whose eyes
Starting point is 00:31:27 Who has the most lifeless eyes I've ever seen on a human being. The eyes of a dead fish, brother. Just completely vacant. The eyes of Jaws, you know? Just that dead ass eye that great whites have, you know what I mean? The eyes of deers, you know what I'm saying? Just like liquid black almost Just you could see just nothing just
Starting point is 00:31:51 murderers row of psychopaths Larry Ellison is the CEO of Oracle and this guy was just like on You know stay at some do what Tom thought Larry Ellison died. I think he did I think he did die sort of like an Eddie money like 16 heart attacks in a after some bad God is God is trying to kill all these people but like we live in the most blasphemous era Truly like it's you know even God's having a hard time keeping up, but um Truly like it's you know even gods having a hard time keeping up, but um But no Larry Ellison was like on stage at some like summit recently talking about how like AI
Starting point is 00:32:35 Saying this in a good way how AI is gonna create like a Panopticon of surveillance where every single person will be watched in every single minute of their lives and therefore they will behave well Like you've got the Sam Altman guy who is Accused of I think sexually assaulting his own sister and yes who has dead NPC eyes Larry Ellison who wants to turn your life into a panopticon nightmare Zuckerberg who is I mean what can you really say about Zuckerberg, who got caught, like, didn't he get caught looking at Jeff Bezos' wife's titties at the inauguration?
Starting point is 00:33:11 I'm not gonna lie, I don't blame the brother. He got maimed snake in the cake, yeah. Also too, all these people you're listing and all of their contributions to the techno-apocalypse that we inhabit. I don't know if we kind of brought this up before, maybe talked about this last episode, but it's like these people are really trying to recreate God, right? You know what I mean? They are.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I don't know if they think of themselves as a God, I don't know if they're conscious, but I mean they have God-like complexes, but the panopticon, the surveillance, amassing all this information, the omnipotence and the omniscience. It's getting bad when Brian Johnson seems a sympathetic character, a he of, you know, he measuring him and his son's nocturnal boners. That seems like a pretty harmless application, by comparison. Maybe we've been too hard on Brian. I've come around on this guy. I like him now. That seems like a pretty harmless application of like, you know, by comparison. Maybe we've been too hard on Brian.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I've come around on this guy. I like him now. Also, I gotta say about Brian Johnson, I don't know if this is, I mean, maybe this could have been a headline that somebody like created. I don't know. I should probably double check the shit before I say it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 But I did hear, or I think I thought I heard that he had stopped some new experiment into prolonging his life because he realized that it was actually cutting his life. It was his dwindling like the years that he had left, you know? So he's a charming guy. Have you ever seen a photo of him from 10 years ago? Go to his Wikipedia page and look up the photo of him from 2015.
Starting point is 00:34:39 All he's done differently is lost a little bit of weight and just started shaving his face like smooth. That's it. And moisturized. That's it. Yeah's it just moisturize like that's it It's there's no like different the more the more he tried to prolong his life the closer. He looks to death Brother there's ancient wisdom in the scriptures and to save your life. You got to lose it. You know just no way there's just Listen, it's scary. I know and if scary, I know, and if you want to go into the, you want to go to Valhalla looking like a lesbian, that's your business, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You know? But uh... I mean, look man, like, I gotta say though that a man who tries to ward off entropy is always charming to me, you know? Yeah. It's just charming, you know? I mean, it's, I've got an idea for him, like, and maybe this is the blood to me, you know? Yeah. It's just charming, you know? I mean, I've got an idea for him, and maybe this is the blood boy thing,
Starting point is 00:35:28 but what about placentas? Has he started thinking about hooking himself up to a good old-fashioned placenta? Put himself in the Batrix pod, basically? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why'd we ever give up on stuff like that? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yeah. I mean, I'm pissed I don't have my placenta anymore. It's fucked up that they just threw it away They took that they took so much from us in the in the 80s, and I really did our foreskins and our placentas Yeah, wisdom teeth a tree already lost our tails over time a biological hazard trash can in 1987 collected my foreskin and my placenta like where is that where did it go so that now where do you think it is do you think they buried them in the soil and a tree flowers from their baby perhaps I mean this is what a racer head was about truly I mean dude this is I'm with you Tom It's wholesome when Brian Johnson is just measuring his son's boners It's at night like that's that's wholesome compared to this one of the the I mean, okay
Starting point is 00:36:34 So the reason I brought this open AI thing up was that um It triggered a big fight between Sam Altman and Elon Musk This triggered a big fight between Sam Altman and Elon Musk. This. Oh my God. Where they both on opposite sides of a fence wailing their arms at each other like they trying to hit each other or some shit. Yeah, I mean this is being, by the way,
Starting point is 00:36:57 one of you mentioned godlike. This is being advertised as godlike AI. Like that is what there's, that that is the word the description they're using For Stargate, so I mean if you need like like I said after I read several articles about this I just got the distinct impression, and I know we were hinting at it on our patreon two days ago But we truly live among the most blaspheming Heretical Satanic people and I mean you know what I'm saying. It's just like they they have no among the most blaspheming, heretical, satanic people.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's just like they have no reverence for the sacred, for holiness. They have no reverence for the sublime. They just profane daily with their deeds and their actions and their words. I mean, they even, and it's laundered through like this future that we all enjoy, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:47 That's the thing that, that's the thing that especially gets me about it. It's like you're, you're doing all these blasphemous things and trying to like kind of project the power of God, you know? And it's all laundered as like this future that we're all gonna, we're all gonna be a part of and that's not the case, you know? And what's, what's one of the most? Like stories that we're told growing up like even if you're not Christian you've heard of the Tower of Babel like about trying to reach God of the hubris of trying to reach
Starting point is 00:38:15 Heaven to touch God like that that's it's a recipe for for downfall in every conceivable way like I just And then I know we were kind of like circling around this at the patreon two days ago but Jen genuinely we are setting ourselves up for a like glorious fucking downfall you know what I'm saying like oh I mean like see swallowing like hellfire kind of downfall and I mean do not pass go to not collect $200 You know what I mean? I know I know they say that it's like not
Starting point is 00:38:50 Effective and it's you know sort of like neutralizing and whatever Expression of powerlessness to point out the hypocrisy, but I'm sorry no I did not like spend 20 years in the church to Just get to like let this pass by This is like blast. This is blasphemous on a level that like I'm frankly offended for the God. I don't know if I even believe in Right, you know I'm looking to his shake of my head. Let him know. I think this is wrong Hey, listen, you've smited me and you've brought me a miserable set of circumstances, but I'm with you on this one. Okay
Starting point is 00:39:30 We have to take care of these guys. I just like modern Christianity just the hypocrisy man It's just it's just utterly astounding like it okay there is the hypocrisy of like going after a guy who is like obviously like Not God like in any way sexually assaults people is a liar a thief Whatever, but then like there is this other now There's this new thing where like one of the defining features that we're starting to see of trump 2.0 Is the alignment with the tech industry and the kicking off of this like golden era of? and the kicking off of this golden era of tech innovation.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Right? It's like that's what it's been described as in all the things I've read about. Yeah, like CEO Masayoshi Son of SoftBank predicted that artificial super intelligence will kick off America's golden age, is the quote. Listen, I gotta tell you something man the Japanese been playing a long game with us here and not I mean this is and listen we deserve it for what we did over there okay right here 100% but yeah they're they're
Starting point is 00:40:35 they're walking us right into a woodchipper under the guise of this is gonna be good for you and then and then the rising Sun in the East makes their move well I also wouldn't trust anybody like a guy like that you know I'm saying And then, the rising sun in the east makes their move. Well, I also wouldn't trust anybody like a guy like that. You know what I'm saying? When he says something like that, I can only think that how many people are gonna be exploited and emiserated, right? From this supposed great technological shift,
Starting point is 00:40:58 you know what I mean? Or exploited and emiserated, or just pushed out of the workforce because your job has been automated or you know what I'm saying like it's very obvious that like like any innovation under capitalism the point is to try to squeeze as much surplus out of a laborer out of a worker within the socially acceptable amount of labor time and Because as we've established profit rates are declining the horizons of exploitation are winnowing the frontiers are gone they have to they have to realize the surplus from somewhere and
Starting point is 00:41:39 It seems that we have now reached this apocalyptic stage where the way we're going to realize it is by becoming gods ourselves We will become gods. That's how we will fucking transcend to the next stage of capitalist degeneration Right, and you know what Tom you were bringing up like can any of us think of an innovation within the last five years? And like I mean, maybe this is a silly point to make especially like given the history of post-World War II. I always have this kind of at least idea or this kind of belief that whether it was the space race or whether it was advancements in medicine and even consumer technology, all this stuff, it felt like innovations then were... If they were either products or I feel like at least like there was some noble, if not noble intention, just this desire to progress, right? To improve people's lives somewhat.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And sure, there was technology created to kill people, you know, millions, thousands, millions of people with like the atomic bomb and all this shit, sure, post nuclear age. But like now, it's like, what are the, this is being termed as an innovation, but what are the actual innovations, right? Again, this just seems, these seem more like mechanisms, to extract more profit, right? To push people out of the workforce,
Starting point is 00:42:55 you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a while, I had my concerns about the efficacy of it, because in my opinion, it's like, well, AI doesn't buy shit. So what will the economy become if there's no exchange of goods and services for some sort of monetary thing? I guess, I don't know, maybe I'm on the back foot
Starting point is 00:43:17 because I am a feckless backwater hick. But I wonder, I wonder I guess what like that economy would look like going forward in an era where everything everybody's been automated out of a job and like well you just get like you know like Ten Yoshi coins and you're like cyber purse to go like buy bread. You know what I mean? Like we're still flesh and blood corporeal beings. You know what I mean? Today, you know today will they feed us gruel to keep like like what what? You know what I mean like we're still flesh and blood corporeal beings. You know what I mean right right today You know today will they feed us gruel to keep like like what what or will they just liquidate us? You know what I mean and like nine guys will just like kind of enjoy the fruits of the earth right before God has his vengeance and
Starting point is 00:43:59 Burns them alive in a you know classic smiting. It's a classic Classically I've been classically smoted. Yeah that would be refreshing you know what I mean maybe maybe the solutions to modern problems are draconian ancient solutions you know stoning. It feels pretty good right now. Stoning you know feels pretty good right now. Stoning, you know, smiting, burning at the stake.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I just, I feel like kind of we're retreading some of the same territory we covered on the Patreon a few days ago, but like, genuinely, I think that this is an interesting development precisely because I guess this new administration is fascistic in the sense that it is incoherent. And it is also obsessed with like birth rates and reproduction. I think that like one of the hallmarks of fascism obviously is an obsession with reproduction. Like this is why Israel is a fascist society. It is completely fixated on reproduction and who gets to reproduce
Starting point is 00:45:07 under what circumstances. And obviously this administration is, it's obvious that the injection of JD Vance into Trump 2.0 was that kind of like fascist sort of addition there because this guy is obsessed with birth rates. White birth rates. And then same with Elon Musk, his futurist eugenicist, you know? Right, so it's like, that's exactly right. So it's like, and I remember thinking this
Starting point is 00:45:35 during the pandemic in the years since, but like there has been a kind of very interesting questioning or critique of what it means to be human that has occurred due to the like combination of like you know sicknesses, diseases, but also technology, but also like our you know slowly degenerating environment ecosystems around us And so it is a kind of environment that is very ripe for a fascist politic, right? It's like, and so I mean, so I don't know, don't really have any specific destination
Starting point is 00:46:18 I'm going with this thought. But like, I don't know, I guess I just find it to be very concerning because it's also, this is getting wrapped up in this administration's overt targeting in war on transgender people. And which I think is probably just an opening salvo into a larger war on LGBT people in general.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Because for them, anyone that, for anyone that's non-normative in that sense, they are a target because they are, like I said, they're obsessed with reproduction. They're obsessed with specific kinds of people reproducing. And it seems like this venture into, I guess, this bio-political, necropolitical sort of project or this thing that we're seeing happening
Starting point is 00:47:06 is, yeah, it's very much overshadowed by the fact that there are worsening material conditions, the environment, there are the contradictions themselves are widening. And now there's this encircling about what it means to be a human being, right? It means that who can socially reproduce, who can biologically reproduce, right? Who can continue to carry on, whether as a worker or as like a boss, right? This entire system that has a spiraling down the drain. And yeah, it really does feel like, you're right, man.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It really does feel like, yeah, it is totally about like, well, who gets to live and who gets to die? Who gets to reproduce? Who's just discarded? Who's undesirable, right? I think another thing here in this AI story is the, I think that they are using this as a way to be obviously veryELICOS towards China,
Starting point is 00:48:05 which is kind of ironic like I don't know, so this story is in the New York Times. So like just before I read this, I just want to like point out that in every story I read about this new open AI initiative, Stargate, or whatever the fuck it's called, very ominous, a very ominous name by the way. Well, they can't, hold up.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Can, what's his name, dog? God, who's the guy? Is it Roland Emmerich? Is it Roland Emmerich, I think? He's the creator of Stargate. Can't they sue this mother? Can't they sue? Can he sue these motherfuckers for that?
Starting point is 00:48:34 For copyright infringement? Yeah, for copyright infringement. I thought that was the name of the ship that went to the Titanic. Or was that the Sea Gate? That was the Ocean Gate. Yeah, close enough to it. Ocean Gate. Yeah. Close enough to it. That was one was the ocean gate. Ocean gate. That was one of the gates. Heaven's gate.
Starting point is 00:48:48 That was the water gate. Every gate has some sort of connotation of death. Heaven's gate. The Heaven's gate cult. Like didn't they all kill themselves? They all killed themselves. They had some dope Nikes by the way. They had the dope Nikes, that's true. The Nike Decade.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Have you ever saw what those go for? Bro, they go for like thousands of dollars. Yes, wow. I tried to get a pair years ago, I was like, shit. That would be sick. That would be sick. Well, in every article I saw about Stargate, basically and in the press releases made by the White House
Starting point is 00:49:24 and everybody else, the subtexttext or not even the subtext They explicitly said this That they were doing this basically to combat Chinese Dominance in like chip making manufacturing and in AI Development as well development as well. But like I wanted to highlight this story that I saw in the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:49:54 How Chinese AI startup DeepSeek is competing with Silicon Valley Giants. The company built a cheaper competitive chatbot with fewer high-end computer chips than US behemoths like Google and OpenAI, showing the limits of chip expert control. So like, you know, and I don't have to like, get into the nitty gritty on this article, but basically the gist is that like, China did it with like half the cost, half the number of chips, like the fucking sanctions we've put on them
Starting point is 00:50:17 about like chip exports or whatever haven't really made any fucking difference. Like it's... Right. So I don't know. Can I tell you, I would feel much differently about this technology if under, in Chinese hands. Yeah, be safe here brother.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I mean those guys, you know, they've proven they can build civilizations over, that span over a long period of time. Us, we're too brand new, you know what I mean? Brother, I look at that comparison over 10 years, the construction of high speed rail in China and everywhere that it goes and how many miles of high speed rail it is, and I think just this summer, I think Amtrak is going to debut a high speed train, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:58 And China's had this shit for like, what, like 20 years now? Oh yeah. So they're going to plod themselves because they can get from Nashville to Chicago in three hours not only are we not only are we brand new but we seem to be like suicidal like the whole thing seems to be omnicidal brother yeah it's you're right it's omnicidal it seems to be like set on this path where everything we do like the incoherence of everything we do is like so self-destructive, right? It's like it seems like we are Just like sort of seems subconscious at first, but now it feels like a very like almost self-conscious
Starting point is 00:51:39 Thing but it seems like everything we do is intentionally designed to like bring ourselves down to like ensure that we will go down in the most dramatic fireworks, flashy, fashion imaginable. It's like the guy at the starting line, in America, where you find a gun, instead of taking off the other ones, he pulls down his pants, takes a shit, and starts running backwards, you know what I'm saying? And runs backwards to get to the finish line first,
Starting point is 00:52:07 but technically you didn't win because you didn't go in the right direction, brother. Yeah, that's right. It's like, Or it's like a guy, yeah, getting ready to race and he like cuts his toes off right when they're about to, you know what I mean? And just like, just bleeds out like 10 meters from the,
Starting point is 00:52:22 I mean, you know what I'm saying? Or pulls out a gun and shoots himself in the head, you know what I'm saying? While the chariots of fire theme someplace Because there's no I mean there's no vision. It's a frontier It's a settler fascist society, so it has no real deep culture the only culture It's gotten has stolen from like various groups that it's like oppressed and you know exploited His culture is rooted in exploitation and expansion essentially you know yeah, you know I mean like so I mean There's no like rejuvenative material there
Starting point is 00:52:57 There's no fucking soil to work with like probably also literally like we have like Destroyed our own like arable land through so much fertilizing, you know what I mean? That we can't even grow shit as well as we used to be able to. But I mean, also though, that's a good metaphor for how we are, the civic spirit of this thing. It's so self-destructive at this point. It's a self-destructive impulse, and that's what I mean or going back to what we were saying earlier about the blast from the blaspheming like this is genuinely like astonishing like I really think that even in the most like
Starting point is 00:53:35 like on the patreon I said something up to the effect of like manifest destiny part one was You know run by people you know I mean mostly implemented by people, you know what I mean? Mostly implemented by people like Thomas Jefferson and William Henry Harrison, Abraham Lincoln, these people that were probably like deists who believed in the scientific progress of civilization.
Starting point is 00:53:57 You know what I mean? And I don't think that's good for any of them. They may have believed in God and the abstract, but they didn't think he meddled in our affairs, you know But then but then I had second thoughts. I was like, well wait, but is that true though? Because like obviously like Manifest destiny was kind of like a divinely inspired providential idea But I went back and you know, and I was reading a bunch of stuff and like yeah No, it is pretty true late that like the span the Spanish colonists the Spanish settlers were more into like mission izing and
Starting point is 00:54:28 That was also very Like it was completely genocidal and psychopathic but like the American form of expansion was this almost kind of like liberal You know very very like liberal You know civilizing quote-unquote endeavor liberal, you know, civilizing, quote unquote, endeavor. And so, but like, now it's the same, now it's like the inverse of that, but like with this blasphemous kind of like connotation thrown on top, and again,
Starting point is 00:54:56 I know we're retreading from the Patreon, but I just, I can't help but like think about it, especially in the light of this open AI stuff. I don't know. Yeah, man, I don't know. It just feels as if, again, like, you know, that when there's nothing left to colonize, you just kind of go inward, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah. Whether you use technology to do that, and information technology to do that, or I don't know, whether you, I don't know, like support or cultivate fascist far right movements centered around questions of identity, right? And the social life and the social relations therein. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:36 Because we can't go to the stars no more, man. You gotta colonize the inside, man. That's right. Well, I don't have much more to cover for today. We're at an hour, but I did just wanna briefly mention though what I think is a very dark development. Well, I mean, I guess, I don't know, just all kinds of different ways to go with this.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I think that it's probably, so I don't know, there's this whole thing about the Trump administration's approach to DEI initiatives now. And what I think is interesting is that they're opening the possibility for investigating private corporations. And they're usually, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that that's a very interesting development. Like they're talking about literally open investigations
Starting point is 00:56:25 into private corporations, DEI practices. Who are you, what are you gonna charge them against? Being anti-white? Like I don't understand it. Like what is going on here? Dog, it is like a weird overcorrection to like, you know, some white kid not being accepted into like, you know, the Wharton Business School or something.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's like, I don't, yeah, it's so, yeah, it's so like mean-spirited in its approach, but also more than that, it's like, they're conflating like a couple of things that are not like, you know, I think, yeah, listen, I just say this as somebody that's, I understand the whites, I've lived among them my whole life, I know the things they say in the parlors
Starting point is 00:57:15 and in the garages and stuff like that. And affirmative action has been something that they've been like, you know, sort of like squeamish about, particularly poor whites because they feel like they've not got to share in whiteness in the same way as their wealthy counterparts, et cetera, et cetera. Even though there is some upward mobility there based on skin color and so forth, there's still some social hurdles there that they are upset about, but upset at the wrong people about.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And I feel like DEI has just sort of supplanted that as sort of the go-to anxiety-inducing turn of phrase now. And we have none other than that cunt Christopher Ruffo to thank for that. You know what I mean? A man that also needs the Kung Lao hat. But like he needs the Kung Lao hat in like, tchoo tchoo tchoo duh. Vertical.
Starting point is 00:58:13 The vertical way, yeah. Like the head down to the dick. Like saw it in half that way. That'd be so cool. Saw it in half and then me and Terrence pissing each like open half. Okay. And I,
Starting point is 00:58:27 that's a, see I have no problem saying, Terrence pissing each like open half Yeah, I hope that motherfucker dies and quit Dude I hope he brought Bart's on the fucking toilet, you know That would be time. I think the thing is though is that dei also encompasses a bunch of other stuff And I I don't even know what dei is all right Like i've been out of the workforce for so long i've never had to do any kind of dei thing i don't know What that is i was a dei hire for the show That is true
Starting point is 00:58:58 Are they coming after us now you know You're a dei coordinator didn't know it They are you're a D coordinator didn't know it I don't I don't even really know how it works but like My understanding of it is it also probably includes stuff like sexual assaults You know protocols and just general discrimination discriminatory discrimination Yeah, which so, I think that genuinely,
Starting point is 00:59:28 and you made this point on the Patreon, Aaron, and I think it's a great point, it's almost like they're trying to incite pogroms, or if not like on a mass scale, just trying to encourage even the most like minute interpersonal cruelty. I feel like genuinely they're just trying to encourage common cruelty of man against man.
Starting point is 00:59:54 You know what I mean? Of a human against their fellow human. It's basically what we saw in, what was it, in Ohio? With the Haitian migrants eating cats, whatever. You know what I mean? I mean, it's just, it's kind of like, I guess, what is this, I guess like, a lawyer planting the seed of an idea
Starting point is 01:00:15 in the jury's mind, right? And you just, I think, creating a mood in which everything after that is believable, it can be believed. So as long as you just create the mood by saying we're going after DEI, these are our enemies. I mean, the people that are already gonna, would already be deputized, they already know
Starting point is 01:00:33 all of the stereotypes and all the bullshit that they believe in, right? But just even codifying into law, right? Saying that we're gonna take legal, executive action against this, you've already deputized those people, right? You gave them sanctioned you know Yeah, it's dude. It's just not anything. It's um I mean obviously we knew it was gonna be bad
Starting point is 01:00:52 but nothing can quite prepare you for like the like I said the encouragement to just like common cruelty against your fellow man the the the thing this week that they're going to send actual troops, not just National Guard troops or whatever, but the Army to the border. I mean, granted, the border is already heavily militarized, so it's not like, under Democrats, by the way.
Starting point is 01:01:21 So it's not like this is necessarily new. Can I just say, what Trump said that was so surreal I mean like he said somebody asked him do you actually meet troops at the border in Mexico actually troops in Mexico? He said the stranger things have happened Dude it just had this I don't mean to overuse these words, but it just had such this lynchian surreal Like kind of you know vibe to it. Like what do you mean stranger things have happened? You know, I just I also though I just want to like encourage people I don't know necessarily that they have the mandate to do all of this like genuinely like I
Starting point is 01:02:03 Don't really like I'm not someone who thinks that all Americans are shitty, treatlerites even though we obviously are so consumerist that we do have our treatlerite tendencies for sure. Yeah, brother, brother, this is a country full of demon Yakubias, no I'm kidding, no I'm kidding. I mean, they're good people. That is true.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I try to believe in the angels of our better nature, whatever the fuck you're saying. Yeah, same, same, same. And I think a lot of Americans want to think that they're good people and they want to, they don't like the kind of cruelty exacted on people. Like they may support it in the abstract, like oh we're gonna like get rid of this DEI stuff,
Starting point is 01:02:49 but like, but I don't know if they like support it like a principal singling out a student because they are certain, you know what I'm saying? Like or. Yeah especially when it's kids, I don't think people like that kind of shit, you know what I mean? Yeah and so I don't know,
Starting point is 01:03:04 I don't know if they have the mandate to You know bivouac fucking soldiers, you know at the is that the right word is bivouac like a When you put a bunch of soldiers in barracks and stuff What'd you say? It's from Dr. Who or some shit like that? He said some alien species from Dr. Who. Is that French heritage creeping out? I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:03:30 The Multivac? Abibuak shelter, a temporary camp especially used by soldiers. That's not a real word. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. That's a hell of a pool. Really? That was a hell of a pull. Man, that was a deep pull. The audience knows a bivouac?
Starting point is 01:03:49 Come on, we know what a fucking bivouac is. Who among us, yeah. Who among us? I don't know if they have the mandate to like, you know, do that and then also like- A bivouax? I guarantee you Trump doesn't know what an a bivouac is. It'd be hilarious if he actually did. I guarantee you Trump doesn't know it in a bivouac is Actually did I've heard y'all say that at least six times I still can't pronounce it
Starting point is 01:04:14 Well fuck but I'll be Vua but also also the going after private corporations for Dui's that I don't know if Americans would put up with that like that's kind kind of a I mean, dude I don't you say that but we all right, so that's true You just said right you say that but when the example with children like alright, alright We already see that the way people swallows Americans just didn't give a shit about Palestinian children I shouldn't say they didn't give a shit about I think people didn't like the fact that the war was going on But the point so maybe didn't see the images that we were seeing or maybe if they saw them They were able to explain them away or you know, Kamas whatever I mean also to just the violence perpetrated one children at the border, you know
Starting point is 01:04:49 But even thinking about like I mean do Americans even care about violence when it happens to their own kids? Yeah, that's a good point. And also you mentioned the corporations thing How many people did we see going to fucking target or some shit, you know during get during gay pride book? You know and post some shit pull like but you know, and pull some shit, pull like a multi-colored, like rainbow M&M, stuffed toy from the shelves, and record a whole fucking video about it. There was also those three fat rappers
Starting point is 01:05:15 that went in there and like picked up LGBTQ stuff off the shelves and started praying like the Lord's Prayer and shit. You remember that? Didn't Forge Yacht-O-Blow and some other fat, dude have like a Yeah, right and then all the corporations didn't went along and then walked back all of their and pulled the stuff from the show I mean you're right man like it's it's a bad um I think though that like I
Starting point is 01:05:40 think though that like Once again, I just want to sort of encourage people though like I think we still have numbers in some substantive sense I don't know how to deploy them. I don't know how to strategically use them I don't know how to stop any of this if it's even haltable if the American public even wants to halt it I don't know maybe the American put like I said, this is a settler fascist country maybe the American public does want to do both land expansion and also trying to become gods like maybe that's I don't know maybe that's what the American public wants you know no no no no no I was just gonna say just one real quick you know you were saying earlier that Americans like generally like, you know
Starting point is 01:06:27 I think they want to believe that their neighbor is good or you believe I guess right there that you know Everyone is has a potentiality for good I guess right, you know the better angels of our nature, you know But it had me thinking what they're actually trying to do is like I mean and have been trying to do and maybe this is the project of America is to make you hate your fucking neighbor Yeah to see your neighbor as a potential enemy if not some sort of political deviant or otherwise to be distrustful So, you know, yeah, it's true Yeah, I think in one way and that's a small way we can fight back. I was reading this article
Starting point is 01:07:00 I've mentioned this before but like Toma Bangaltere who's one half of the inimitable Daft Punk, put out like a classical album, because he's like a classically trained pianist, I think, and all that stuff, by trade, you know what I mean? And the interviewer asked him if there's any hope for like a Daft Punk reunion, and he said something I thought was really poignant. He said, the last thing I want to be right now is a robot. So he's like taking his music even back to like, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:32 where it started for him and all that kind of stuff. And I think one small thing we can do is reassert our humanity in that way. Like we need to fight the appearance of any sort of, I'm not saying, you know, like halt and progress or we have to become Luddites or you know, right, you know Kaczynski and manifestos or anything like that, but I think that you know Just a general Getting out in the world and and displaying some kindness like that sounds like a very hokey kind of thing But like it is in very short supply Tom I mean we are being you're right. You're being encouraged to deny your own humanity right now
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah, in in so many different ways you are being encouraged to Practice commonplace cruelty like I mean I saw this video of like someone Telling Theo von about like one of their friends that had been deported and he was just like don't care I mean, you know, that's the kind of shit I'm talking about that is kind of like it's just common place beyond good good Well, so I'm saying like you're being encouraged to like practice this commonplace cruelty to not care about anybody Both at that kind of like moral level but also at the kind of like human level like where you're saying also what you're saying Tom is like We are trying to reproduce like, we are trying to reproduce
Starting point is 01:08:45 God. We are trying to become ubermensch basically. And that is, I mean that's anti-human, right? Like that's, you have to reclaim your humanity, brother. Right. They really, no I was just gonna say it really feels like they do wanna like negate any possibility of solidarity or recognize, I mean, just recognize that someone else is a human being,
Starting point is 01:09:11 and it feels almost like a kind of a pickup game or like a kind of scrimmage for, I mean, I think Gaza was part of that, right? Like how many eyes of the world can see thousands of people being just like killed, being just maimed and just not immediately marched down to their city hall, their whatever, building of government or whatever it is, just being the streets. And it's like, yeah, how much can you actually take? How much can you be a nerd and desensitize? I know that
Starting point is 01:09:44 word is overused, where the humanity, not even your neighbor's humanity, but your humanity has been taken stripped from you so much that you can't even recognize human suffering and someone else, you know? Right. Yeah, we get desensitized to it because it just beats us down and we come to this conclusion that like, oh, well, that's just the course of things, you know, or, well, you know, that's biblical prophecy in the case of the Palestinians, you know what I mean? Like that's just their lot and like what can you do about it because that's what, you know, that's
Starting point is 01:10:10 just how God has preordained things. But something that I find interesting is that, you know, if you take a scriptural view of it, the Bible says that God gave Adam the power to subdue the earth. So I think it's interesting that we're still sort of in control of the affairs here and we need to wrestle that away somehow, some way, you know, from these cretins that, you know, proven or betrayed their own humanity, you know. And also too, I notice how I sound like, I feel like I very often have anything instructive to say, not to say that people should do this, but I think this is kind of wrapped up and I think a lot about AI and I was working on a story earlier before we got on.
Starting point is 01:10:54 And I mean, if you create art, pursue that. If you don't create art, maybe you might want to think about it. But just to like the fact that they're trying to strip away not humanity just like in the terms of, you know, having desensitizing you against like these horrors, these current and future horrors, but also stripping away humanity from art, you know? That art is just a product, that it's just content. You know, it's just something that can be reproduced
Starting point is 01:11:19 by a machine. Right. So like, you know, there's a fucking, you know, take a, go with a few friends to a museum right like do a little Art fair with your friends or a little exercise I don't know the sounds corny, but I mean for me art and creativity You know has kept me afloat in these what's built community. You know it's what being human is I mean exactly And you see this in all of the attempts to make
Starting point is 01:11:41 AI a machine and a device that can reproduce art so that you don't have to put the actual labor into it. But art is not just labor, it's your own humanity. It's pain, it's joy, it's all the things that come with being alive, the whole spectrum of it.
Starting point is 01:12:04 It's all the things that like come with being alive the whole spectrum of it And Yeah, I don't know I just It's it's been a very dispiriting week So far I mean I knew it was gonna be pretty bleak I knew it was gonna be pretty bad, but like I just will say that I genuinely did not fully See I did not fully predict the degree to which the tech industry would come around. I mean maybe and maybe you could say like oh Terrence like have you not been paying attention that's like really ignorant or whatever but I
Starting point is 01:12:35 really did kind of think that there would be still some like internecine like you know battles within that space over like the future of Technology in the future of these machines But it is just patently obvious now that like Trump has basically done a sort of Roundabout right like he's basically sort of circled all the wagons And he's brought all of the powers and captains of industry into his tent and they will now use that these immensely powerful tools against us to yeah the privates of our humanity drive us apart from each other and so it's I just want to say it's like a very powerful thing to realize that you also though have a power to fight back against that and
Starting point is 01:13:23 that again that is your own humanity that's love that's the things that you also though have a power to fight back against that and that again that is your own humanity that's Love that's the things that you can do that these machines cannot do you and you can thread that needle without taking a lot of A lot I'd view of it right it's like they're there so yeah, I don't know well to be fair to the lot eyes too and this is a this is a something I've learned from a couple people like Brian Merchant and Edward Onwesko, who talk about the Luddites. And I mean, it's actually like that they were, that they realized that they weren't in control of the means of production of these machines, right? And that these machines were, again, in some essence,
Starting point is 01:14:01 stripping away their humanity, their dignity to live as selfless, fully realized human beings. And like, yeah, man, yeah, it just stripping away their humanity, their dignity to live as fully realized human beings. Right. And like, yeah, man, yeah, it just, to your earlier point too, it just feels like they all sort of got the cliff notes, right, for the end game, you know, which is to coalesce around whatever administration it would be.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Wouldn't matter if Kamala had won either. Yeah, you're right, you're right. You know, it would have been, because what they have to do is either to just squeeze profit, like squeezing blood from a stone, to disempower people, to surveil people for government interests or interests within their own industries. And yeah, man, I guess I don't know how else to say, but I know this is very vague then to say, but like you were saying, build community, right?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Build these, build these counter, I guess, institutions, right, localized, wherever that are, bastions of community that resist against this kind of shit, you know? Yeah, I think it's, yeah, that's a good point. It would have been, if Kamala had won, they would be... But it's so hard to even imagine Kamala winning. It's just like even if any kind of alternate...
Starting point is 01:15:12 That seems like a distant sea on a far off planet. You know what I mean? I just cannot imagine a world in which... I thought I could have imagined a world in which Hillary had won, and sometimes I think I still can, even though what happened happened. But I can't even imagine. I mean, I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think a lot of their policies... Let me not say there would have been daylight between the policies, because this is horrifying
Starting point is 01:15:37 for a lot of people now. I think the thing is, it goes back to what I said back in the summer, which is that it can only really work out this way because Palestine did prove to be the primary contradiction of the Democrats' entire thing. It proved to the entire world and to Americans themselves that there was one group of individuals that were not human, that were subhuman, and that the Democrats had written off
Starting point is 01:16:05 as basically expendable. And I know that we know that Democrats are actually racist and everything, blah, blah, blah, they're ableist, that they are- Transphobic. Transphobic and everything else, but for the first time they just could not hide it. They had to do this balancing act,
Starting point is 01:16:23 and it just was blatantly, you know, exemplified every day with the fucking smirk of Matthew Miller or with Biden's dottering, you know, blank stares or whatever. It's like they couldn't mask it anymore. They just acquiesced kind of. They didn't even acquiesce actually. They willingly gave up. It's not that they did there was no resistance right and another thing That's crazy is like we were told that the reason that was is because Biden was powerless to do anything And then like we get Trump who's two days in the office and is like, you know Fucking signing executive orders like he's Yosemite fucking Sam, you know Yeah, so it seems like in hindsight just a kind of like fated company like we were going America at this point reaching all the contradictions that it had reached.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Its inability to like politically reproduce, socially reproduce, declining rates of profit, incredibly like alienated and paranoid political constituency. Like it was gonna have to start expanding territorially land would start to become another important Sort of like symbolic totem in American politics, and it couldn't happen under liberals I mean because they had proven they had walked themselves into this point where they There was no way that they could like actually do that The contradictions on their end were just way too top heavy But like conservatives can easily kind of thread that that needle
Starting point is 01:17:52 primarily because theirs is a Revolutionary movement like they they they have a revolutionary kind of engine to their The way they reproduce themselves from generation to generation engine to the way they reproduce themselves from generation to generation. Well, I mean, you know. And that's what settlerism is, by the way. It is a revolutionary process. Sorry, go ahead. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I was just thinking of, I guess for the Democrats, they just fail to realize, they fail to crawl out from under the collapsed weight of history. One man said, ways like a nightmare nightmare on the brains of the living. You know what I'm saying? And they couldn't squirm out of it and they just gave up. They were just like, fuck it. They literally gave up.
Starting point is 01:18:33 We watched them in real time give up. Throw their hands up. We watched them talk internally amongst themselves about how they had pretty much given up before Biden even dropped out, dude. It is so, it's so crazy. It's so, it's, I just, it's the most unconscionable thing I can imagine to like basically oversee the whole slaughter of an entire people and then like just at the same time throw your hands up. We're powerless to do anything about it. Like how is that whole thing taken in total like a winner?
Starting point is 01:19:07 And of course they just lied to us the whole time. Like, Kamala was never leading in any of those internal polling or any of that shit, you know what I mean? Not even close. The fact that they never had a contingency plan, like to say like what are they gonna do to go into action should Trump win, right? After being told, I don't mean to retread this shit,
Starting point is 01:19:24 but after being told for like what, like two years, dog, that he was an existential threat to democracy, and now that he won, it's like, well. Now you're clapping like seals for him at the God damn inauguration, you know? Brother, you know what, I'll put it best. I'll put it best in Nelly's reasoning as to why he performed, right?
Starting point is 01:19:40 At Trump's thing. It's like, if all the, not just him, but I think it was, it was Nelly. Nelly the rapper? Yes, the rapper. Yes. He performed at Trump's inauguration. Snoop Dogg and Rick Ross. Yeah, he performed at the inauguration. He did. Right? And some, there were a couple other people, but most people who had been invited to perform, they wanted to perform,
Starting point is 01:19:58 they agree with Trump's politics, right? But a couple other people, they clashed with their fan base and it's, the Democrats are sort of doing what Nelly said. He's like, well, he's the president, you know what I mean? His reasoning, well, he's the president, their president invites you to something, right? Because they have such a high, a high reverence for that office, you know what I mean? And I think also too, because to be frank, some of what Trump is going to do, Kamala would have done anyway, and it sort of seems to some to some to to it seems to be leading to some Ideological and for them at least you know well. That's that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:20:30 That's why that's the yeah I'm not I don't want to like retread it or like try to like relitigate this dumb fucking election But like I guess what I'm just Curious about is like it seems to me that they have reached the end of a historical phase like a narrative arc like how How can they move forward now when like we're obviously We're obviously in a in a new era that was building for a while Like it took like the contingency of the co vid to kind of like mediate that transition into this new insane Anti-humanist, tech-centric
Starting point is 01:21:09 form of manifest destiny. But like, it now seems like obvious in hindsight that the only historical force that could do that was Trump. And so, how do you have a counter to that? Like, there's nothing, no one even remotely close in the Democratic camp that would be able to provide a historical counterweight to that. And- That's true, that's like a baby fighting a bear, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:33 You're so right, son. Yeah, it's- Not even a baby, it's like a desiccated man fighting a bear. Well, and, but here's the thing, and here's what's, Tom sent me a, Tom sent me like a survey, like what was that, Tom, like two weeks ago, where it was like Biden's what's, Tom sent me a, Tom sent me like a survey, like what was that Tom, like two weeks ago, where it was like
Starting point is 01:21:47 Biden's approval rating, like, it was the approval rating of every Trump, of every president when leaving office. And I think Biden's was like maybe the lowest or the second lowest. Or he was- It was right behind Bush and maybe like ahead of like Franklin Pierce or something.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Well, okay, it was ahead of Bush, But the only other president that was just as unpopular as him when they left office was Trump So it's like they it's it's bottom of the barrel And that's what I'm saying this country is kind of staggering towards its own like self-demise like every morning We're putting one in the chamber and spinning it and like fucking what kind. What kind ofocracy is it when you're ruled by like the most mediocre, like a mediocracy? And unpopular, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, when you have nobody left to turn to but the two most hated people, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:41 Or polarizing at least. I mean, both of them have their,. I don't know if Biden has any fancy I don't know if anybody riding for Biden, but Trump certainly has his fans, but like it's still broadly unpopular like you know What do you call that? What's the word for that? You're right. We need a new name for that because when you're ruled by bottom feeders exactly Benthocracy Yeah Carpocracy. Benthocracy. Benthocracy. Like the benthic vote? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, dude, you know what? When I think of like, maybe this is just like a visual, I think of that, but I gave the
Starting point is 01:23:14 metaphor of like America is like this big shambling zombie, you know? This big shambling zombie that's just like, you know, flesh is like sloughing off its skin, you know what I mean? It's just rotting and it's just like walking across the world man Infecting everything in every one brother Yeah Yeah, well, I mean shit's from attack from attack of Titan, you know, yes You got swing around the little cords and fucking knock them out
Starting point is 01:23:42 They put their massive fucking dick and balls in your face the city walls But their dick and balls are rotting not only giant but rotting rotting giant rotting the karate the karate dick and balls Listen I've not seen those front two yeah Quit spoiling the ending Quit spoiling the ending for me. The end of Nosferatu he has a Dirk Diggler-like reveal of his necrotic nick and balls. Oh, shit, sir. Have you really not seen it yet?
Starting point is 01:24:15 No, I've seen it, I'm joking. I haven't seen it yet. I probably should. Terrence gives it two thumbs up. Two thumbs up? Wait, oh, I don't know know why equated like thumbs to stars You only have two thumbs. I was like why not more thumbs? All right, let's go ahead and call this
Starting point is 01:24:41 Thanks for listening a lot of the ideas you've heard on this program were worked out also on the Patreon. Perhaps they were more clarified on the Patreon. Who's to say? I got a migraine halfway through this episode actually. Your boy was fucking fighting some demons. Did you transmit? Did you soldiered on? I did. I feel like you transmitted that migraine through me because halfway through I just got like a splitting headache, brother Well, I get when I get migraines like I can't see Like I get this fucking thing in my eyes and I can't see this one was a very mild one Thank God, but I'd now I'm now starting to get the headache that comes afterwards. But um So I don't know if this was more clear
Starting point is 01:25:26 than the Patreon episode from two days ago. There's only one way to find out though. Go to Patreon.com and subscribe for five measly god damn dollars. And if you can't do that, then you're just gonna have to go on wondering. You're just gonna have to go on wondering You're just gonna go on wondering like many of us do in life. That's so true Tom Don't wanna be a wonderer. That's right. Be a knower. Be a knower. You don't want to be a wonderer You want to be a knower?
Starting point is 01:25:57 That sounds like some Some motivational Brian Johnson shit. Yeah corporate motivational shit. Some Brian Johnson shit. Yeah, corporate motivational shit, yeah. All right, we'll go to Patreon, go be a knower, go be a grower and a shower, and we will see you at the Patreon in a few days. I hope you'll have a great weekend wherever you're at. And adios. Peace. and adios, peace. So Thank you..

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