Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 378: The Infernal Flame

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Covering all the news from the 2nd week of Trump's 2nd presidency Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

That's really nasty Is it have Robbie Williams sounds I don't know anything about Robbie Williams, that's really nasty Why did they make that movie of him being played by a chimp? apparently he said that was because the movie based on his life like it's a biopic essentially and that He's had a very Traumatic life, I guess, you know a lot of ups and downs, and I guess there's drug use involved. And he thought that it would be sadder if it was a chimp being depicted using drugs

and going through this tumultuous life as a pop star, I guess that's what he is. But it wouldn't be as funny if it was a human being. So basically to make it more sympathetic by anthropomorphizing, I guess, a chimpanzee. Which would have to be the wrong instinct because it ate shit at the box office. That's really nasty. It fell at the box office. That's really nasty. It fell at the box office. Also we had a whole movie called Cocaine Grizzly about a bear that, and that was a horror comedy. So I would say that people are, think it's pretty funny when animals use drugs.

Yeah, what? Yeah, that bear didn't go to AA, never found any help with its problem. Nah, it just got roided up and went to town on a small town I didn't know that also lives about two miles from my house Exodermy I Didn't know that was an option in biopics Like you just pick an animal like could you do like a elephant or like a starfish? Well like a manatee perhaps a bit some sort of benthic

Perhaps anglerfish with like it yeah Federman That would definitely elicit sympathy from the audience for sure somebody tweeted the Japanese are Experiment with half human half animal hybrids and something like what said, they're trying to come up with their own fatter man. All right, let's get the show started for today. I before we really get into it, I need to make a clarification. I need to address the audience about something very serious.

a clarification. I need to address the audience about something very serious. Of all the things I've said and done on this show that I have regret for, there's like probably three. But quickly that has rocketed to number one is doing a bit that I had tuberculosis. I want to make it clear. I do not and never had tuberculosis I thought it was clear that it was a bit I did have pneumonia and I almost died

Okay, that's also a bit I gotta stop Also got to say too that some listeners astutely brought up that We were at talking about whether there's ever been a black dentist that any of us know of oh Yeah, and we forgot about we forgot about my man who the the ambassador to North Korea Dennis Rodman so well as soon as we did that I thought of about 20 black dentists, and I was like that was a stupid bit I think I've actually known a Black dentist personally actually so. We should have went with Black Noah. Not a lot of Black Noah's running around.

Not a lot of Black Noah's. What about the dude who did um... The Daily Show? That's his last name. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, his last name is Noah. Noah Trevor. The original Noah with the ark was probably

black. Yeah, man. Like Jesus, man. That's true. Yeah. Let's know his wife was black. Right. I think so. He knows an interracial and her embrace. That was the first interracial marriage. Well, I think we're just thinking of Noah's

a white man when really and truly he's probably aired closer to, you know, being a brown guy. Yeah. Close it to to he was definitely. Yeah, he wasn't a honky for sure. He was not. He's not a cracker. There's no crackers in the Bible. That's something we just got to dispel that notion immediately.

That's a product of Renaissance art. If you ask JD Vance, though, he will tell you that there were plenty of crackers in the Bible and that this is the sixth century doctrine that Justifies why you should want to deport your neighbor Taste up the man when a motherfucker convulsed first to Catholicism starts trotting out Latin terms On you to Google them. It's at the Roman Church might have been a bad idea He was like I'd say I know there's a lot of Catholics out there, I'm sorry. And I self-crit too, because the Pentecostals, while we did give y'all rock and roll, probably

overall a bad idea. Catholicism was definitely a bad idea. Sorry. All right. Somebody fuck up there, man. I mean, well, you could have solved it with just two simple innovations Let the priests get married so that you don't have all the pedo Right couple of couple of tweaks you could add a fine church with some great art

But right and then number two make it to where you're only born into it You can't convert into it. That would have been a brilliant innovation At this point you're right Tom they fucked up Yeah, what was his tweet it was like just Google ordo anal ingus in it'll tell you or no anal ingus Can't find the words in the Bible. Oh my God. That is so dumb.

The thing he's talking about is like, I think this is a very Christian concept that you should care about your own before anything else. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? The whole story of the good Samaritan is you're supposed to take care of those that don't look like you, don't believe like you, don't look like you don't believe like you don't think like you you fucking idiot. I Mean it's kind of like with Terrence It's kind of like a theme that we've been going with for the past couple episodes is that these people are incredibly blasphemous All right, they are actually they are actually expressions of the Antichrist perhaps what they do is

They just say they just say any bullshit they want to and oh, yeah God co-signs this cuz I'm a Christian right No, that's what JD Vance and Donald Trump think that ain't what that ain't what Christ thinks That ain't what the prophets think that quote Tom was really funny Because what he said was if you listen closely like Jack posobiak or whatever tweeted it and said JD Vance, this is a Christian concept that you should whatever but if you actually listen to the clip he goes This is a very old concept and actually I think it's a Christian one that like he it's like he on the fly was like Oh, yeah, but it's actually also a Christian one. I think it's just

Go go turn. Sorry. I just I just went on to like provide this like completely false theological doctrine or framework If you want to be a selfish cunt fucking by all means do whatever the fuck you want to do But quit saying that like this is a Christian thing quit saying this is like a godly American like no, that's what you fucking assholes want to do. But you church it up and dressing it up and all that shit. It just reminds me of like how they like the right, and I guess to some extent liberals too, but just reactionaries, they tend to naturalize certain things, right?

It's the way they talk about capitalism, right? As if it's human nature, you know what I mean? Or the way they talk about like, again, like I guess, you know, Christianity as if it's human nature, you know what I mean? Or the way they talk about like again, like I guess you know Christianity as if it's it's it's as if its roots and doctrines are actually like kind of internalized right intrinsic to American values or to being I mean white right or being a good person even more simply which is usually a white American Right, right Yeah Well, let's keep that in mind Which is usually a white American right right? Yeah

Well Let's keep that in mind JD's comments this been a banner week. It has been a Right. This is the second full week of the second Trump administration there has been a Number of things both planned and unplanned, that have kind of shown all of us what we have in store for us over the next few years. But like, you know, there's a few things that we started the week out with, and I've got

them listed here. The first is on Monday the stock market opened with like Nvidia stocks basically collapsing like various tech stocks collapsing because of the deep seek news We talked about on the page on the main episode last week but then like we you know, we went into the news about these new executive orders where they tried to cut off all federal grants and what appeared to be like they were cutting off Medicaid, Pell grants, scholarships, housing, you know, Section 8 vouchers, all that kind of stuff. Like people logged into their medicaid

portals at the beginning of the week and found out that they weren't working and so um This basically like triggered a huge backlash people were like But you what the fuck like you did this is um you know not? not what we signed up for and I You know, not not what we signed up for. And I don't know. It was I don't know. Like, I don't know if you guys were closely following any of this, but the. The attempts to then walk it back were equally kind of bizarre and unclear.

So they rescinded the funding, then they released the memo that said they didn't rescind the funding, then their spokes the memo that said they didn't rescind the funding then their spokes Came out and said that they were just rescinding the memo But that they weren't rescinding the recession like this is like this is like promising someone that you're gonna like, you know Reimburse them for something or like you know what? I mean like giving them a and it's like now I got you man Just give me a minute. Now. I got you. Just hold up. I got you, you know Yeah, when you fill a buster, you're one of your creditors, you know what I mean like giving them a and it's like now. I got you man. Just give me a minute Now I got you just hold up. I got you. You know yeah when you feel a buster you're one of your creditors you know Yet But it even got more confusing it was almost like they were filler bustering the filibuster of the filibuster of

filibuster reception brother It's completely Just completely like sort of halting and erratic and bizarre do you think do you think like? Because there's a lot of shit that I've seen them do so far You know cutting these grants or I mean just just this It's just this really kind of incisive and broad kind of slashing right of Benefits grants whatnot right all these these social welfare net or whatever, these mechanisms, right?

To fund government projects. Do you think that like they're kind of like being ambivalent and kind of going back and forth about it because they didn't expect the backlash, you know? Yeah, I kind of think so, right? Like it seems like their sort of mo is to come out the gate with some really shocking and

sort of Unprecedented move right to sort of shock people out of their sort of I Don't know so in but like maybe yeah, maybe they weren't anticipating the backlash or maybe they were and maybe like that's the whole point like I've just been thinking about like I remember this at the beginning of the Trump administration Like all these sort of like little dog whistles towards like alt-right Nazism and stuff and I like think about like the the Elon Musk like Trump sig hail and how that was very clearly a And I think about the Elon Musk, Trump, Sig Heil,

and how that was very clearly a wink and a nod. That was clearly a Nazi salute. But it's, I don't know, maybe that's the point. Maybe they think that that's how to govern, right? Kind of maybe shock people, but I don't know. It seems a little tired to me Do you remember like during the first Trump term when everybody was doing like the okay salute like that shit? And yeah, I would like pop up people be doing that in the background to like C span and people be like oh

You know what I mean, and it's just like I Don't know a lot of that shit seems so fucking tired to me But now it seems as if they've got at least something of a mandate so it's like a bit more menacing Yeah, it's like it's like what they try to do is they try to walk this I mean, I wouldn't even say it's a fine line really because they're overtly like I mean once you do a sick how like You know, you can't get any more Obvious and plain and you know your political project than that, right? But it seems like once they want to shock people

and then reel back, you know what I mean? Like keep this kind of atmosphere of unpredictability and chaos, you know what I mean? That continues to like, I don't know, the underscores the politics. Yeah, I almost wonder if it's because they don't really have any sort of like substance to their governing Approach or if they even really believe in anything at all

Other than it's punishing people besides punishing people exactly I mean The the reason why I think it was kind of shocking to a lot of people was because it also coincided with Trump saying he was going to ban semiconductors from Taiwan, which is a hilarious thing to do I mean Cutting off Medicaid funding is like one of the quickest ways probably to engender some sort of recession like like the whole service yeah the whole service economy and the Healthcare economy is literally built up

through these Federal outlays of spending and that's you know that's a that's a reliable form of revenue for them is Medicaid We wouldn't even have the giant health care. You know we talked about this with Gabe why not in that Episode we did with him about his book the next shift. We wouldn't even have the giant health care industry that we have without these federal outlays of spending right and and yes I mean it's just so yeah people were conjecturing like is he trying to tank the economy like what you know what's going on but I don't know there's also a constitutionality aspect of it too Congress has the power of the purse that was established with the reconstruction amendments, and then it was kind of re

asserted through this Piece of legislation passed in the wake of you know the Nixon years The executive branch trying to essentially like subvert or Go beyond the Congress's power of the purse is unconstitutional But I Don't know I read this interview of Curtis Yorvin in the in politico. What was the story on? What's the story on this guy? He's like kind of like the intellectual forefather of the dime square scene or something like that 100% yeah, I mean only picture. I saw of him. He had his fly and zip

Kind of tailing there was this interview that he had done I mean he's you know we've talked about him before. He's this kind of, yeah, forebearer of the alt-right. He's kind of got this ideology where he thinks like the executive branch should be turned into a monarchy, sort of similar to a tech, Silicon Valley tech startup. And I don't know I think like he was talking about this like he was talking about impoundment for example which is the thing I was just talking about like which is the congressional attempt after Watergate to reassert the power of

Congress Congress's ability to pass budgets he said impoundment is a perfect example of an easy of an issue where in the first Trump administration the Office of Legal Counsel would have said oh you, you can't do that. There's a law where there well is the law constitutional. I don't think the law is constitutional. And I think that like the Trump people agree. I think that we are kind of witnessing another constitutional crisis. That's kind of honestly, in my opinion, qualitatively and substantively different than the first Trump administration What ways do you think minutes good that's like well, I just

for example like if you talk about like executive authority like the executive branch already has quite a bit of like leeway and power to do a lot of different things but like the power to pass a budget and to basically control federal spending has been with Congress for 150 years now. And I mean, trying to reverse that situation is, I mean, you're talking about an entirely- That's a big fight, that's a big that's a historical fact yeah if it went to the Supreme Court with the Supreme Court how

would they rule on that right like would they say that the executive branch can do that all right yeah if they let if they let one man control the purse strings I think that's what that portends for well at least the facade of what we're doing here. Right, right.

Not good. And it also seems to, I don't want to be like alarmist here, and I know that the Livs have been banging the authoritarian dictator drums for so long now, but, and maybe you could say this about, maybe you could say this about any presidency in a way that the executive seems to encroach upon the duties or it seems to exceed the duties and the role that it has. But it does seem that because right wingers rule by minoritarian rule, like I mean, and like we say in a true democracy, nobody would vote for any of these people. But it's not so much that Republicans, I think the country is turning right wing generally, right?

I mean, maybe people could argue that's the case But I think too is that um, they're just seeing how much wiggle room they have and how much they can expand the power of the presidency which I don't know it just sort of it just Like it reeks of just imperial decline and decay. I agree. I think that like the, I think what's interesting is that they are basically taking the Curtis Yarvin approach.

I mean, like this guy is obviously a fascist, et cetera, et cetera. He's got a funny line in here about how he ran into JD Vance at the inauguration and JD Vance shook his hand and like patted him on the shoulder and was like, Jarvan, you reactionary fascist. He was like joking with him about it and but like I just find it interesting that the the historical force that is challenging the sort of basic fundamental premises of the government, the whole civic system, constitutionality

and everything is the right. Obviously they've been doing that since they've been trying to roll back the New Deal. But the New Deal was also a challenge to civic premises and the constitution and everything. Right. So yeah, I just kind of want to amend what I said then and I guess in that case like it's not It's not Necessarily, I guess like how you try to expand the power It's not that you are trying to expand just purely itself the power of the executive rights

Like what do you actually want to do with it? You know, I mean, maybe there are things that the executive should be able to do that shouldn't be left to like an undead into Intrinsically undemocratic institution as Congress, you know? Well, I mean, this also goes hand in hand, though, with another news thing that came out this week about Musk taking over the Office of Personnel Management. Did y'all see any of the stories about this? Is this different from Doge or some shit? Yeah, I...

Is Vivek out at Doge? I can't get a clear answer on that. I think he is For his end because because he tried to he shot he shed on white people I think he was a casualty of the them getting rid of DEI and I failed by his own blade So like this story is basically about how and this was in the New York Times There's also a story and basically about how, and this was in the New York Times, there's also a story in Wired about this, but basically the gist of it is that Musk is basically trying to do to the federal government

what he did to Twitter, which is, you know, pare it down as much as possible, fire as many people as possible, and then hire a bunch of 18, 19, 20-year-olds to programmers to run everything. So what they're trying to do And then hire a bunch of like 18 19 20 year olds to programmers to run everything So what they're trying to do is they're trying to figure out how to fire as Many people as possible in the federal government and like I don't know if y'all saw this But like they had offered a bunch of federal employees a buyout this week

That had so they want to turn they want to turn the Fed of the Fed into a into a tech startup Yeah So they want to turn they want to turn the Fed of the Fed into a into a tech startup Yeah Well, and I think that like what I find so fast what could go wrong Well what I find so fascinating about that is that like There are no impediments to stop them I mean it seems very much like they are going to essentially get away with that like when you think about like the mechanisms and and

institutions that are available to actually stop corporations or break them up or Or regulate them or whatever. The only one is the federal government I mean also workers and you know striking and everything else very good that but um Also workers and you know striking and everything else that but um But I just don't think that like I mean obviously there's nothing to stop this process from occurring So like I don't know it's just a very concerning process where you've got the government being sort of hollowed out by this tech capitalist and

There's nothing or no one to stop them. You know what I'm saying? Like there's no institution that would. Yeah. Would you, you know how you said Terrence, that it's Republicans that possibly like start wars or incite wars, but it's Democrats who actually carry them out?

I forget what Republican politician he had said said said this But we're using Graham said it Lindsey Graham would you kind of argue? that and maybe this is wrong, right maybe this is not always the case, but it feels as if Like the changes that Republicans are though, you know The right the Republicans are making now like these slat like these cuts, you know And also if we look at like, you know, on the social side of things, whether it's immigration, or whether it's, you know, trans rights or any of these things, would you say that like, they're the ones that like, are most sort of fervent about executing these things, and then then they end up kind of solidifying themselves into some way into some institutions, institutions right into this further kind of like decay and creep of like

You know the social welfare system and the social contract whatever that is and the Democrats just kind of they just they don't really do Anything about it, you know, so one could argue like well Is this the given the game plan of both parties of both capitalist parties this entire time? Or is it just that I mean mean, maybe this is also the same answer, is that the Democrats are just feckless, you know? And they don't actually believe in these things. They don't actually believe in these things. They're not going to fight for these things. It just makes me think about Biden, if I'm correct me if I'm wrong, did he not, when Trump had put the embassy in Jerusalem, and then Biden didn't do anything

after that, you know? And maybe a few other things as well And I'm not saying there weren't things that Biden had possibly tried to do that these people like will stand so acclaim or whatever like That but it just feels like more often than not. They're just okay. Well, there's nothing we could do about it, you know Yeah, I think so. I mean Sorry for that long ramble, but did you see Chuck Schumer's response to all this it was um? They're literally defunding the police yeah, it looks like Trump is defunding the police got like you know fucking arm cross fucking You know it's just mic drop I Don't I hate to advocate for this, but I think we need to put all the current Democrats, especially

the leadership on a bus and just... Where that goes is anybody's guess, you know? I don't think you would have a hard time doing it. It seems like they don't want to be doing any of this. Exactly. They would hopefully get on a bus. We need to find a teenager of the slingshot to take out Federman, you know. Just put one right between his eyes.

There's some things we can do here. It's so goddamn depressing to even think about. And I know, like, it's just like, you know, we spent, I mean, this is a well-trodden point, but it's true. It's just like, you vote these Democrats in, they spend the whole time telling you that government's an incremental process where, like, vote these Democrats in, they spend the whole time telling you that government's an incremental process where like things happen like over a longer span of time and there's only so much that can be done. And then you get Trump in there and he's just like, you know, just sort of poking at the walls and like testing the metal of like, you know, every bulwark we have against absolute collapse or fascist rule or whatever, you know whatever you're afraid of out of him. And it's just, I'm glad we don't have to pretend these people are like our bulwark against

encroaching fascism or whatever anymore. What that looks like now, I don't know. It seems like we're in this intense period of demoralization and nobody knows what's coming next. Nobody has any hope. But there could be some good things to come out of that. Right. Yeah, but we won't be relying on the Democrats for that, right? No.

Well, I did want to highlight this story in the New York Times that I found sort of fascinating. In a tense call, governors pushed Schumer to fight harder against Trump. So this was basically like six governors, six democratic governors pressed Senator Chuck Schumer during a tense call on Wednesday night to be more aggressive in fighting back against President Trump's nominees and agenda. Was Gavin Newsom one of those governors

Actually, no, I don't think so. Okay. I think it was Mara Healey JB Pritzker Andy Bashir Tim Waltz Laura Kelly and Kathy Hokel big Andy in there. Yeah The call described in detailed notes as well as interviews with two participants Revealed the growing tensions among Democrats about how forcefully they should oppose mr. Trump

Pritzker and Healy told Schumer that Senate Democrats should not vote for Trump's nominees after the administration issued a memo freezing trillions of dollars in federal grants and loans issued a memo freezing trillions of dollars in federal grants and loans. Healy urged Schumer to slow down Senate votes and create more public opposition than Democrats in the chamber have generated so far. They hate people. Why would they want to create public opposition? They don't want to talk to anyone. She also lamented that Democratic governors were bearing the brunt of calls from constituents affected by Mr. Trump's policies while also leading the legal effort to block them And then it talks a little bit about like Tim Waltz and blah blah blah

But here's what I wanted to talk about Oh Laura Kelly said that their party needed to do a better job with its digital outreach in response to mr Trump she called for Democrats online strategy to become down and dirty I mean they tried they tried that with actually one of the guys who signed on to this thing With the weird thing that Tim waltz had started and then like I guess like I don't know James Carville and all of these other ghouls you know. Well like actually I forget we want to actually get those voters some of those voters you

know those that's the ideal voter that we want to get so we shouldn't call them weird because maybe it makes us weird and off-putting you know. So you didn't even want that strategy in the first place to be down and dirty you didn't want to do that. I've got no killers man. Yeah, no shooters nothing well, I do think that there is a I do think that there is a Several tendencies within the Democratic Party that are kind of like warring at each other I mean every single person in the Democratic Party

is completely beholden to Israel. I mean, we can't look over that fact. But at the same time, I do think that there is what you could call a more progressive bloc. The fact that Kathy Hochul was on this call is very strange to me, but whatever. But I think that some of the people on this call are examples of that, like Bashir and Waltz.

And Pritzker probably too. And Pritzker, right. But like. The people's billionaire. Yeah, exactly. But then I think that you've got the, like I've said before, you've got your Vichy Democrats, like Federman and Luzoncamp Perez.

jervishe democrats like vetterman and and guzzen losing comp perez and Never remember that first part And I think that like you yeah, like I said you've kind of got this tension within a Democratic Party But oh anyways the down-and-dirty Online strategy mr. Schumer responded that senator Cory Booker of New Jersey was in charge of Senate Senate Democrats Social media and praise he was doing You mean you mean the guy you mean the guy who like he has some of the worst tweets I mean, this is I know possibly you know be the official whatever of their out

Digital outreach is one thing but this guy guy's tweets are cringe and very annoying. Oh yeah, it's like I can't even start my day without coffee kind of tweets. Yeah, or like, I don't know man, just posting excerpts from like some shitty ass novel that he's been reading for Zario Dawson or some shit like that, you know what I mean? Didn't they have a tweet the other day

that was like, so this just happened? I meanson or some shit like that, you know what I mean? Didn't they have a tweet the other day that was like, so this just happened? I mean, it's just like that kind of stuff. It's like. Yeah, they're tweeting. I mean, I guess they're tweeting, I mean, they're tweeting like children, but you could say they're also tweeting

part of their demographic, right? You know? Like the wine moms, man. Right. Well, last week Mr. Booker delivered a PowerPoint presentation to fellow Democrats about how to deliver their message online In the slides he offered his colleagues guidance on how often to post on each platform Instagram once or twice a day Facebook once a day linkedin three to five times a week X two to five times a day tick tock one to four times a day

During this Wednesday call mr Mr. Schumer defended Senate Democrats posture toward Mr. Trump. He said Senate Democrats had damaged the political standing of Pete Hegseth, who was confirmed last week as defense secretary. Yeah, obviously not enough. I just have to say too, I think that included with all those social media sites, you should post

on Reddit at least three to five times a day 30 times leave a Pornhub comment at least like a dozen a dozen Man the fact that Hague Seth made it through like a fucking foot like off also a fucking idiot like just You know that there's that video of him on Fox News doing the axe throwing thing where he throws it over the target and into a crowd of people he's also a drunk a total mediocrity and also like one of those weird like Christian fascist dudes You know like we get the weird tattoos on him. He almost took someone out with an axe They were doing like a little set like a little segment where he was throwing axes at like the target He throws it over the target into a crowd of people luckily. No one was hurt, but yeah

You could have killed somebody I think you hit a drummer in the arm or some shit like that But he didn't get hurt though that badly yeah, that's yeah, that's actually how the Def Lepper drummer lost his arm Yeah, what I'm describing happened in the Yeah, what I'm describing happened in the eight Yeah, they damaged the political standing of Pete Hickseth and RFK jr He told the governor's that he could not force all Senate Democrats to oppose every Trump nominee But that he could unite the caucus to oppose certain high-profile appointees See this is why they're such losers man. It's like it's like the Republicans unite like Voltron You know I'm saying like they just they just even if like there might be

Interscene and like battles within the Republican Party sure but the Democrats just they don't even have like there's too many different Tendencies in the Democrats right now right? That's what you're saying earlier. Yeah, and and and I just think that like Yeah, and and and I just think that like as a And which is the kind of the irony of the thing which is that they have a kind of party loyalty That is also in my opinion Very detrimental to actually getting anything done I mean like Tim Waltz is loyalty and Bernie's loyalty to this goddamn party that they've gotten nothing from in return has Resulted in the liquidation of a massive portion of the quote-unquote progressive left

which That yeah, I mean like they get on these phone calls and they get pissed off about Schumer not doing anything But at the same time it's like dog. I mean they're attacking Medicaid They're attacking these You know social safety net programs that you guys have basically seated ground on because You're too fucking housebroken by the Democrats to actually articulate your own vision Like by state by which and I'm again

I'm not like I'm not trying to tell them like you need to break away and start your own party like I think the time For that as I've said many times before was probably April 2020 like they missed the fucking boat on that But genuinely like they're constant You know going back and and allowing their movements to just be Shepherded back into the Democratic Party is what allows for the vulnerability of The movement to actually stand up When Trump does stuff like this like when they try to cut these federal programs? Yeah, they don't understand now

It's the time to get like Obama out all that outside like like what the Democrats are is a very fluid concept right now and if they had some people that would step up and you know exhibit some sort of different vision now would be the time it would have some purchase but like you're out they just kind of just like little dogs just go back to like you know whatever the party line of Schumer at all is and now's the time to like House those people that they have failed so Catastrophically bad they failed their constituents. They failed the goddamn country. It's like now's the time you're right Tom It is kind of fascinating like in this moment like I've never seen them weaker a B I've never seen them more inconsistent like you've got Federman basically saying I mean he was he had a tweet

that was like I Applauded I was the only Democrat that applauded the Lake and Riley act or something like that right like you've got The only Democrat that like that like needs to be slain by a boy seeking a golden goose or something you know what I mean One of the orcs from Lord of the Rings type shit, but like yeah You need to be cast into an infernal flame. You know what I mean like like a simple assassination It's not good enough for you. You need to die in a brother's grim style fashion. You know what I mean? It's like you know let out to the valley of the ghetto by an attendant because you can't like you know You need to be led out to the Valley of Megiddo by an attendant because you can't like, you know, walk on your own or whatever

Where like a teenage boy king slays you with his like Slingshot. Yeah, no, no, it is like his arrow dipped in unicorn blood or some shit like that, you know You know what it makes me think about though dog is like it It makes me think, and this was best embodied in, well lately by Joe Biden, somebody brought up a tweet from, maybe I don't know, maybe it was from a couple years ago during Biden's presidency, but Nancy Pelosi has said similar things, that we need a strong Republican party, you know? And it always seems as if they have this pathological need or desire to be liked by the enemy. But I think that has more to do. I mean, I think it very much is pathological, but I also think it's sort of I mean, it's just sort of their role, right?

And in just reproducing like in capitalist social relations, right? And allowing corporations to run roughshod over the government. I don't even think this is so much a democratic thing is like both capitalist parties do the same project, but both of them manifested in different ways, right? For Democrats, it seems like half-assed, like, you know, pseudo-progressive gestures, but mostly lying down, but more importantly, to be able to work with the right and actually be liked by the right to carry a lot of this shit out through, you know know Didn't Nancy Pelosi like sell off a bunch of her Nvidia stock or whatever like days before that yeah Somebody's like oh, she's the best. She's the she's the best stock trader of all time I

I um that's actually I'm glad you brought that up because I think that's a perfect example of what I'm talking about Like if you are a Tim Waltz if you're a Bernie Sanders Someone like that like I guess I'm just kind of Continually amazed at their inability to see the crisis as it develops for example like You've got one of your own party members saying we need a strong Republican Party This is these this is the party that is rescinding These federal funds that's cutting Medicaid that's making it harder for people to find secure housing like

This is a crisis. You cannot like simultaneously be you cannot be in the same party Like if you want those things for your constituents you cannot be in the same party with someone who says well we need a strong opposition party who you know what I'm saying it's so is I mean Republicans just ask yourself I mean anyone ask yourselves right and I think you could ask not just a listener but if you ask just like it's a mainstream Democratic voter right if you were even just getting this like it's just could you imagine a Republican saying we need a strong Democratic party

They would never say that they call you people pedophiles that you eat that you drink the blood of children You know what I'm saying? Like they actually think that you were demonic they don't horses out of the barn Yeah, they want to round you up and put you in camps. You know what I mean? Like why I mean, I don't know man I mean it seems like they I mean what it seems to be is that they want to be Republicans Essentially right you're gonna be nicer Republicans. I guess whatever that means Well, I'm kind of confused as to why they even care at all like Again like what if you care so much as to go to Schumer and be like yo You're doing a shit job man like you're really shitting the bed. You really need to wake the fuck up you care that much then why not like actually do something take the

reins try to articulate a bolder vision I mean there was they just there was like a street that was someone had made some video like Rokana had tweeted it out. And it was like, it was like one of these like fucking trailer ad videos where it's like a bunch of like, you know, working class men, like, you know, working at a smelting iron or, you know what I mean, like fucking welding. How can the left possibly come back from this? Supposed to be their reentry into like the the conversation man. We're back. We're building a tank or some shit Yeah, and you've got like Federman and and Bernie Sanders in the same ad You know what I'm saying like that's the future of your party. It's it's incompatible Compatible and I mean genuinely the only way that I see this and I've said it for months

Now is like the issue of Palestine is the kind of thing that like that It's kind of like the mental block why these guys can't break with these people like I know that it is a it's a complex thing that like also has to do with the naturalization of like neoliberal social relations and capitalist social relations and all this but to me a big thing here is that like What is uniting Bernie and Federman is their undying fealty and loyalty to Israel, right? Even though you know Bernie will talk about like an arms embargo and cutting off aid to Israel. It's like Because they are so beholden to the colonial

project in In the Levant in Palestine They cannot they cannot see that. This is the thing that's sort of unraveling. That's the point around which it's all kind of Unraveling like I said the primary contradiction Until someone realizes that in that party. I think that they are doomed they cannot I mean And I don't know who knows I mean I could be wrong. I mean Someone could come along in four years and finally be like all right This is a strong vision we need but like right now the two names

I'm seeing floated the most is like Federman and Shapiro or Newsom like that's Not gonna get it done Not gonna get it done my guys are cooked I mean it might as well just like Axlis Cheney you know to run on a unity ticket or some shit I mean that's probably gonna be some shit that when like what comes out the other side of all this like gesturing and posturing Is gonna be some dumb bullshit like that. We know one thing about them is they never learn any lessons Well, it seems like both parties are This goes back to your question earlier Aaron

It kind of seems to me like both parties are set on these trajectories Where they can only shoot themselves in the head like the like self-inflicted gunshot wound is like the defining image of both of these parties like everything that they do is Self-inflicted harm in some way like cutting off Medicaid and like the semiconductors from Taiwan that kind of stuff It's like oh wait You guys can only act in a way that harms you in the short term and the long term.

And it's the same for the Democrats. Both of them are kind of locked in this dynamic where they can only act in ways that like further hamper reproduction. Well, it is, you said it, I mean, it is alcoholic behavior. And I don't say that as like a shot at anybody that deals with that, but like just having dealt with that and having seen that my entire life It's like it is exactly that kind of thing like not being able to get out of their own way enough

Damaging everything around them. It's true. It's true the demo that is actually true Probably best embodied with the Pete Hex that thing which I don't even know a literal But I think that like the Democrats are like non-functioning Alcoholics the Republicans are kind of functioning alcoholics right and I know well well well well we say that Pete Hicks says first day on the job is this black Hawk that is true the bako which we'll get to I want to get to That in a minute, but like you're right like I and I've pointed this out many times before and I even had a tweet about it this week I deleted it I don't want people to think that I'm like disparaging alcoholics like I am myself a recovering alcoholic

it's just that like The the logic that I see employed by both parties at this point is a self-harming like sort of self obstructing logic. And it's more obvious to us about the Democrats because obviously like they can't win. They are dwindling man. Like they, I read this article in the New York Times earlier this week about how the Republicans

redistricting efforts over the last like five years Basically resulted in their massive blowout in this election Like I just don't like they on every front cannot rise the Democrats cannot rise to meet the challenge They're getting wiped and fucking Statehouse elections Buddy I don't know if you heard this, the cavalry's coming because they put Kristin Sinema in charge of the midterms of strategy, the midterms.

So, Jesus Christ, we're in good shape. I mean. That's what I mean, like they can't, they cannot figure a way out. It's really wild to witness. Like I, I don't know. It's just, it's just kind of really wild to witness like I I Don't know. It's just it's just kind of really astonishing to witness if you were to ask me Terrence. What what is the way out? It's like Okay for me personally like yes, you have to articulate like worker power. You have to articulate like the power of

a civic Community to actually make people's lives better. You have to, in my opinion, do massive land, some sort of land back program to the indigenous. You have to articulate an anti-Israel platform. These are new, you have to also confront the issue of technology and the massive surveillance state in our lives. Like you have to confront all of these things. To me that would be a revolutionary program. A new ecology? A new biology? Instead what they do is they pay lips a little, a

safe amount, an acceptable amount of lip service to all that stuff while acting as collaborators. Right. Right. The rest of the what? 100%. You know there's nothing worse than a collaborator. Acceptable amount of lip service to all that stuff while acting as collaborators You know, there's nothing worse than a collaborator. Let's call it what it is. That's why I said Oh, yeah, we recognize the plot of the Palestinian people, but we're just gonna keep giving these weapons to the audience You know, you know that kind of shit. I mean it just seems to be both parties and they're sort of They're sort of self-destructive tendencies. It seems to just echo their sort of self-destructive tendencies. It seems to just echo capitalism's own self-destructive tendencies, right? Like it's almost like they're working on the same sort of

like self-sabotaging mechanisms because the only thing you can do now when the future is looking the way that it is as we've talked about on the show, is just get it while you can now, you know? That is true. And this actually segues into what I think is like a really massively defining event of the current moment, but also of the Trump administration,

which is the collision of a passenger jet with a Blackhawk helicopter outside DC like this is the first time this has ever happened I think over like an American air sky American skies like the collision of a military plane or a military craft aircraft with a fucking passenger commercial air aircraft and there's all kinds of things like there's all kinds of different reasons for this You can blame it on Trump you can blame it on The new transportation secretary Sean Duffy. I think is his name. Was Trump flying a blackhawk? Almost forgot like you know it's easy like when Trump's not in power to kind of get wrapped up in his whole like oh He's hilarious kind of shit, but you do forget like how absolutely callous and sociopathic

He is like yeah, they asked me if he's gonna visit the side. He's like we want me to do swim I mean he's like he's such a sociopath that he can't he doesn't understand how that makes him look yeah You know that you're right Tom. That's what I was thinking about last night. Like I mean also though. I Saw a tweet from I think was it Mo to case? To said like, you know if you worked at a waterfront bar like I did between 2015 and 2019 you would know that like the number of military aircraft in the air went up Exponentially in the first Trump administration. So it's also just like they're just like children man

They're just like to fly their little toys and put them up in the air You know what I mean just like intimidation purposes. Yeah, what is it like? I like some sort of aesthetic like, you know kind of in the way that like, you know We would accuse like the Soviets or the North Koreans. That's exactly what I was military demonstrations or whatever You know what I mean for like like is that like their own like sort of like menacing version of like like Big Brothers in the sky like you know well, I mean there's tons of like you know You know You know little black helicopters are the subject of many conspiracies. You know and conspiracy theories, so you know I think you're right

I'm new I just want to say too you know, I think you're right. I'm new I just want to say too. I think I think you're right to tell I just want to say I think it's funny because too I think part of These sort of military parades is showing off not just like beating your chest But showing off like technical technological achievement, right? I mean as a way of superiority, right? But instead we get Black Hawk helicopters crashing into it into commercial airliners, you know there's something I want to say about that just the naturalization of

the mass output and Um omnipresence of technology is something that is really like I said if you are in a Movement if you're something that is trying to exert some sort of oppositional or revolutionary or interventionist role in American politics, you have to confront the role of technology. Like, it's kind of a side tangent,

but in the Tulsi Gabbard hearing, confirmation hearing this week, someone had asked her about the, someone had asked her about her position on Section 702 Surveillance Authority, which apparently, I'm reading this from Politico, John Cornyn was pushing Gabbard for more clarity on her views on the controversial Section 702 Surveillance Authority, which applies to foreigners' communications but also sweeps up data on Americans. Gabbard, a privacy hawk while in Congress in recent weeks reversed her opposition to Section 702

and said she supports it. So like I'm saying like you've got this naturalization of like it is just off limits for you to say that like we should not be surveilled in every fucking private matter in our lives, right? It's like at this point in an American political life You have to basically admit and this is what this kind of dovetails with the musk thing I was talking about earlier you it is a prior it is an established hegemonic principle that surveillance and technology Be allowed to every nook and cranny of your life and that you have no amount of privacy left anymore that that you are under constant surveillance in every form I think the Blackhawk

helicopters thing is a is a very overt example of that when did we decide when did we decide I mean you know this is a thing that we've talked about Aaron and and we talked about the show too it's like when did we decide? I mean, you know, this is a thing that we've talked about, Aaron, and we've talked about on the show too, is like, when did we decide that, like, you know, there was this sort of, you know, techno-optimistic vision of the future where technology, like, you know, is integrated in such a way that it's such, it's a boon to our lives. And like, when did that vision become, when did we all just sort of collectively agree that like non-stop innovation was a good thing I feel like the hallmark of the last 10 or 15 years

has been that like disrupting the space like the apps the things that have like identified problems that didn't even actually really exist but because they made those things marginally more convenient say door DoorDash, Uber, those things. Like it wasn't really fucking hard to hell a cab. It wasn't really fucking hard to place an order at a restaurant and go pick it up yourself. Or, you know, most places probably had their own delivery people, whatever. You know, those types of things put a lot of people out of jobs. And now what we're looking at is sort of like that experience writ large for everybody,

while also giving like the reins to about eight or nine guys. You know what I mean? So now what we're looking at is sort of like that experience writ large for everybody while also giving like the reins to about eight or nine guys. You know what I mean? And like even the way they talk about it now is less about like how this is going to be good for humanity and more about like, well, people just better get ready because it's coming whether you want it or not. Right. And somebody pointed this out on Twitter and I tend to agree with it, not to sound

alarmist, but it does seem as if though we have like a narrow window to stave off like this techno feudal future. But like it feels like we're powerless, kind of like the Democrats, like we just can't put one foot in front of the other to figure out how we can like, what we can do against that. You know what I mean? Without going all Ted Kaczynski about it, you know, or, you know, whatever the case may be. But it's just like, it's so depressing to me

to see the merger of that mindset, like the Elon Musk, like sort of ever expanding techno future, like techno feudalist future, merging with Trump's vision, which is like a lot of people can die and be hurt to protect my right to sell fucking trading cards to shut-ins on daytime TV. Right, right, right.

You know what I mean? And then the feeling this whole goddamn administration gives me is like that feeling of, and everybody's felt this I think. You've been home from school sick when you were a teenager or something, right? And there's like, you know, before the era of streaming or anything like that, you know, you'd watch daytime TV

and it was just geared toward like, like taking advantage of elderly people, you know? Like trying to sell them some sort of half-ass life insurance policy, trying to sell them some half-ass like QVC style trinket, whatever. That experience of like, there's nothing on TV so I'm gonna watch the prices right

and then in the in between I'm gonna get sold gang fucking laundry detergent and like gold sack of Jowee coins from the US Mint that are gonna triple in value. And then, and then I got see Alex Trebek Hock and colonial life RIP Alex Trebek. No, no shade. You gotta get checked too, but that whole administration. It's like it's like that that depressing like I'm just gonna end up in a nursing home and this is gonna be sold to me one day feeling yeah

Merging merging with them speedrunning us into a world where nobody wants to fucking live nine people have all the money and we're just gonna have to form roving bands of war boys that form checkpoints and Mad Max shit yeah and merging with the most satanic in my opinion. Well, maybe this is a little bit Maybe this is a little bit Maybe this is a little bit Hyperbolic because there was such thing as an inquisition and the Crusades and everything But probably the most Satanic modern version of Christianity I've ever seen Yeah, yeah, yeah where it's like actually God wants me to sell gold coins to shut ends and take all of their fixed income and actually actually God wants me to Literally JD Vance is literally saying God wants me to only prioritize the lives of those in my immediate family

And you should not feel empathy for anyone else in the world That is his message to you his message is that Jesus and God like that the message of Jesus Christ to you. His message is that Jesus and God, like the message of Jesus Christ was that you should not care about the world. You should not care about your fellow man. You should want them to all suffer as much as possible. And by the way, we're doing the suffering. We're causing that. We're causing the suffering. And you should look over it because Christ instructs you to look over it. That friends is what we call what the scripture refers to as the great following or falling away where

people are going to be deceived and believe a lie and be damned and then in the end nobody's very few people are going to be saved because they can rightly divide the truth and I don't even mean that from an eschatological like I believe that Jesus is going to and rapture us all the way I believe that very literally that if we don't figure out us As a race we don't figure out how to combat that then like we're actually going to be the ones that are gonna write Because what do people think Christianity is just some like individual self-help thing Literally if I was raised to think it was about caring about the future of humanity and your fellow man, like you were saying earlier, Tom, the Good Samaritan.

It's just, I mean. You know what I was thinking too? I think that combined in with this like, this like, blasphemous sort of Christianity and also the techno-feudalism, it almost seems, it all seems to be undergirded by alienation, further alienating people. It's like, especially with the tech future,

because it's like techno optimism, like all the things that I imagine that technology can do in the future, to benefit the most people possible, versus like, I don't know man, it's like this techno-treatlerism. I know people have been using like treatlerism a lot, but like I think there is something valid to that because it's like, I get these novelties and trinkets,

that are powered through the gig economy, at the expense and exploitation of people in this country, people around the world, but these products and these services that are all kind of fictitious, there are some of these, that are all kind of fictitious, right? These are not even material things, right? Or I guess they're stored in material data centers, right?

But this is versus, this feels as a way to alienate people, to hyper individualize people, to make people feel as if they are the only person who exists in the world and all their needs and comfort should be met to, and that they should not be pressed with any conflict or any, especially class conflict, especially social conflict, you know, as long as you get your treats, right? Man, I tell you this AI, all this shit is, the era of AI, all this stuff, right? If you were to, here's what blows my mind about it. If you were to go turn back the clock 25 years to the Y2K era church, okay, and you were to say to them, what the church is going to be in 25 years is a wholesale sponsorship for a blasphemous TV game show host who's also ushering in an era where

TV game show host who's also ushering in an era where Human input into anything is not needed Yeah And there's going to be computers are going to decide everything for us do all our thinking for us do all of our media says Those people would have said those every fucking one of those people would have said that's the mark of the beast That's the exactly prophecy, that's this. 25 years later, all those stupid fucking cocksuckers are fully on board with it. You're right. 100%. This church is the great whore of Babel.

It almost makes- No disrespect to our, you know, meretricious people out there. It almost makes me wonder if you were a political movement in this country if you could actually like pick Up some sort of momentum or support by just advancing a pro-human message Like you can that would that might be your the needle you can thread. That's like not fully anti technology but is also like anti AI to the extent that like like but is also like anti AI to the extent that like like

You can actually because like this is what I thought about multiple times like over the course of the election in 2024 which was that like the Democrats whole message is just anti-human in general in general They had fucking the Cheney's out there that were basically like we're killing millions of people and it's alright Like it's just the whole message was so Psychotic and serial killer vibes like I almost wonder if just so creepy Yeah, it's like as you go into Dearborn with fucking Liz Cheney whose father killed a lot of those people's aunts uncles cousins brother sisters It's it's unconscionable. It's it there's sociopathic too in the same way Trump is well That's what I'm saying that like both parties and perhaps This is this does lend to their self-destructive behavior that they hate people they hate humans so much

That they are starting to harm themselves Because it's just like they hate themselves just take well Yeah, take the take the evidence that we've just laid out here. Like a techno-feudalist or a techno-realist or techno-pessimist vision that facilitates paranoia and individualism and alienation and is bolstered by this religious, techno-religious, techno-christian doctrine that says you should not care about anyone in the world except your immediate family and yourselves.

It's also, I'm not being an enraptured person, but to piggyback on that, a lot is said about the loneliness epidemic, right? And it's the feelings we feel, and I'm not even talking about the experience of having no friends. A lot of times, people with a lot of friends Tell me the same thing. Yeah, I feel lonely. I feel lonely The reason is because it's because of these things you're saying it's not even the experience of not having other human beings in your life It's the experiences that like we're all so atomized and and and parties of one

Even when we're together because of these conditions, that everybody just feels that way now. Well, you're exactly right, Tom, and what's really wild about the current moment is that the building up of the Fortis state and the New Deal state and welfare state created these institutions and these prerogatives, these imperatives that required a communal participation.

And as they've stripped it all out for parts and hollowed it out for surplus and profit, the skeleton remains, but no one is staffing it anymore. So I'm just reading as an example of what I'm talking about. A big reason as to why this happened with this plane collision, the Black Hawk plane collision, was like I said earlier, you've got this like techno fixation, you know, panopticon of surveillance that's all the time like, you know, running and all around us. And then at this point is kind of fueled by like Trump's very particular anti-humans, you know, cynicism,

but fascination with these things. But it runs smack into the very neoliberal trends that were put in motion by Reagan himself. It's crazy that this happened at the Reagan International Airport. I'm just reading here in the New York Times. A chronic shortage of air traffic controllers has forced many to work six day weeks and 10 hour days. A schedule so fatiguing that multiple federal

agencies have warned that it could impede controllers' abilities to do their jobs properly. Few facilities have enough fully certified air traffic controllers. The air traffic control tower at Reagan National has been understaffed for years. The tower there was nearly a third below targeted staff levels with 19 fully certified controllers as of September 23, according to the most recent air traffic controller workforce plan.

The targets set by the FAA and the Controllers Union call for 30. So I mean- Truly carrying on the tradition of Ronald Reagan. Truly. And saying fuck you to the air traffic controllers. That's what I'm saying, like they had one guy probably performing a job that could be staffed

by two or three or four, and that's a result of, you know, like we said earlier, fucking Ronald Reagan going after the air traffic controllers union in the 80s. But also has, as also a result of our over-reliance on technology to do these things, which has engendered a culture of, you know what I mean, like a kind of aloofness from any kind of actual oversight of these matters.

But even more than that, you've got a workforce dilemma that has been in place since 2020, right? Like a lot, we don't talk about it. We talked a lot about it at the time, but dude, like six, something like six million people dropped out of the workforce during COVID people retired early A lot of people died a lot of people got like chronic long COVID or chronic illness That like forced them out of the workforce like you know and and so then this

Collides with this you know insane racist chauvinism of Mass deportations and all this other stuff. I don't know. It's just the perfect fucking ingredients for a white nationalist techno, you know pessimist Christian idea of America, but but you saw this in What was really astonishing? I don't know if this will work on Americans. This is why I think there is an opportunity to articulate an actual opposition with new premises, new philosophical foundations.

But you saw this with Trump and Vance going out there and saying like, oh, this is because of DEI. I'm sorry, I just don't think that's gonna fly with most Americans. I just don't. I just don't think that they're gonna be like, okay, sure. It's just so transparently flimsy. And it's like, dog, it's like, that's the type of shit that happens when you only learn three notes to play.

You know what I mean? It's like, you have a tragedy that requires some real leadership, some real accountability, all that kind of stuff. And all you can do is go back to your little fucking, like, you know, boogiegeyman word, Chris Ruffo, boogeyman words from the campaign trail in the face of that is these people are not only evil, but they're just ill equipped to, to like be in this position anyway. You know, there's corrupt people that can govern. These people are not those. No, you're right.

I think that like blaming it on Biden and Pete Buttigieg, blaming it on DEI, like I just don't, like, I don't think that's gonna fly. I mean, I think, I don't think it's gonna fly. Well, you actually need to seize on this moment to actually really lodge some discontent, because, dog, you're creating a world right out of the gate where people are afraid to fly because of shit like, like, like, on the first day on the goddamn job. Right. Yeah. They need to go for Trump's fucking head right now. Like, like, like, what the fuck are you waiting for? Well, how many, people died in that fucking crash? Six, almost 70.

Almost 70, including a fucking, like, a, a skate team or something like it like young kids. It's like no That's the kind of shit you have to hang a noose around his fucking neck and get fucking kill you right it's astonishing Take his ass out now And you're just sitting there dawdling making your dumbass fucking commercials with John Federman in them No, you make a big rucks you say no that's on fucking Trump. He killed those fucking kids. Why don't you, this is elementary. This is politics. It's astonishing. If that won't get them into gear, nothing will.

Nothing will. Jesus fucking Christ, 60, 70 people dead, many of them teenagers, kids. This is- The fuck are you waiting for? I don't know, I mean, this is my challenge, and I've said this for fucking years. This is my challenge to people like Tim Walz and Bernie Sanders who I imagine do have a sympathetic ear to part of our project.

It's like, are you willing to just keep going through the motions? Like, is this good enough for you? Right. I'm sorry, like, to do something about this is gonna take a national movement. And you're gonna have to peach his ass tomorrow I'm yeah right out of the gate. Just fucking like fucking make his life hell. You know what I mean? Jesus It's really astonishing

God makes me so fucking mad dude We just don't have anybody that has an ounce of political acumen enough to know when you have something like that happen You have to fucking go for the head. You know, like what are you doing? Yeah, I don't know how you um, I don't know how you like actually, like I said, to me the vision is pretty clear. I see the outlines of it pretty clear. I don't know how you actually put that into practice and actually get I don't think you can get people elected anymore Like I really don't I really don't think that I think that's pretty probably tarnish your brand pot

And that could be wrong, but at least for the foreseeable future All right Maybe the maybe the Democratic Party does have to die first like some like long and fucking prolonged You know deathbed sickness or something, but I don't, I don't know. It's the mediocrity, dude. The mediocrity of like, the first day on the job you let something like that fucking happen. What the fuck? It's really wild, right?

It's because like, I hated Biden so much for so long, I forgot about how much I also hated Trump. I hate them both so fucking much Fell asleep on Trump. It was like man. I was like oh He's just so funny. They didn't they so goofy and he says the wildest things then you forget like oh, yeah it's kind of like you know when Like a sports coach you like runs for office. It's like oh no. I liked him in his old job I like Trump in his old job of just being like a like a funny like whatever

personality whatever yeah you forget when he's in this job it's like no I want him to literally fucking cease to exist I think it I think he is extremely unpopular and I said this when he was elected I he left office as one of the most unpopular presidents in history defeated only in that regard by Joe Biden like these are the Choices you're given and if you're hearing this program, it's like I guess you have to start asking yourself some serious goddamn questions myself included It's just if these are the choices you get you're given if this is the constant erosion of things I think that like the whole um Nothing ever happens. That's entirely a Twitter meme

it probably is a CIA Psyop though because a whole hell of a lot fucking happens every goddamn day and the constant gradual erosion of these things I Mean it could have been any of us on that fucking airplane I mean it could yeah, you know what I'm saying like it's it's this is something that like Society is breaking down, and I don't mean that like in some sort of hyperbolic meme Prosaic sense I mean that like the very meme prosaic sense. I mean, like the very institutional and communal bonds are breaking down to the point you have to have a society

to run things like airline travel. You have to have a society to run things like highways. It already was not that, just on that airline question, it was already not good when Biden was in there. Yeah, I mean, when have you ever went to an airport in the last three or four years where you didn't have a massive delay or sometimes you have to wait till the next goddamn day or three days, you know?

Or Doris falling off of Boeing planes and shit. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, having to make emergency landings, all that shit. It was already bad. And now it's going to be like, you know, some impoverished nation not signing on to the aviation agreements. Well, yeah, and that's why I'm saying you have to have a society to have things like Medicaid and Medicare. You have to have a society to actually survive, to have a healthcare system in general. You can't just run it on fucking profit.

Right. The profit motive eats away at all of it and this is A prime example of how the Democrats not doing anything creates the the foundational You know starting points for them to for the conservatives to continue hollowing everything out for more profit So I mean just I you I don't know you have to do something like this is it's not fucking sustainable It's not tenable

No No, man, it's I Can't imagine what three four more years of this looks like you know what I mean like this is this is how bad it is In week one you know what I mean? Right No, we won't we won't have anything left to stand and I think we're on a very and I mean, I don't know I've said we've I've been hyperbolic aplenty on the run and during the run of the show But I really do feel an acute sense of something somehow worse than we've already ever experienced

It's like is not and we have a very narrow window to do anything about it well, that's the thing like the right is trying to forge a semblance of a society and community around a racist You know chauvinist patriarchal vision of that, right? You see how quick that's becoming normalized to a right like we know de is your shorthand for fire all the black people, right? you know what I mean? And like you hear otherwise straight people like, well, you know, I don't know. It's like almost normalizing that kind of treatment, normalizing this kind of like the more racist rhetoric and stuff like that.

Just people engaging with it in a way that treats treats it as like neutral instead of something to be Put down, you know You're right. It's like that's like those slavery signs in Lexington. You see where it's like Yeah, you can stand to be a little more rebuking of that I think the thing is they the Democrats can't put any forward put any vision forward put any forward put any vision forward because their vision of a community of civic body a civic society rests on the same sort of you know patriarchal and white supremacist institutions and premises as the rights the right kind of carries it to a logical conclusion the the liberals say well we joy you know we

can make America happy again. You know what I mean? Right, as long as we have this. America was already great. Right, as long as we have this aesthetic, right, of racial, political harmony, you know what I mean? Yeah. We actually don't have to do anything

about the contradictions, right? It's exactly right, right. So I, oh man. You have to actually,, this is just the real shit it's it's really got it's got real consequences and Democrats aren't seen they don't seem to be taking it seriously They take it about as seriously as the right does so I don't Alright, that's probably a good place to end things for today. Um, if you would like to go

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