Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 382: Doom Guys (w/ special guest Bryan Quinby)

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

This week we're joined by Bryan Quinby, host of the Guys podcast, to discuss AI, scams, and urban legends concerning some of our most hallowed public figures Check out Guys here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/guys-with-bryan-quinby/id1671039476 Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Unfortunately, we're throwing you back in the fires of politics today. I'll just keep changing the subject As I was saying no, this is like a Schrodinger's cat type situation, um Brian you're like Everybody knows that we're the same person we have a You know, it's like a it's like a Clark Kent Superman type situation. You're Superman. I'm Clark Kent. I'm like the bad journalists.

We're still wear both. We both wear glasses. We did not wear glasses. Sorry. Yeah, we are kind of the same person in that I'm afraid to ask you to do the show. Terrence. Why are you afraid to ask? I'm not a type of guy, I don't know

Well, no, I haven't talked to you since since we were for a really long time So like when I don't talk to somebody for a while. I'm like, I probably hates me. I'm gonna go ahead Why are we like this is grown man It's like we work in a field that is like guys hate each other This is that man. I'm so bad at Twitter I mean like I I have been on it just as long as you the choppo guys everybody else But I'm not good like I'm I'm gonna say something and this is probably gonna be a little offensive But some people are

Autistic in the real world. I'm on Autistic online I have like an online autism that like makes it hard for me to pick up on social cues and Know like how to engage in the arena of discourse and conversation So that's really I just don't I'm just like I don't know how to talk to people. I somehow I can't believe I got off Twitter like I think about it sometimes and I'm like I said I was I don't I don't think I ever thought I was going to do that. I just thought there was no chance that would ever happen. Yeah. Well here's what I thought. I thought it was you know helping my work so I could tell him and you know, it'd be like, Oh, this is for work. It's not some entertainment thing, but uh,

I don't think it could be on this. I haven't seen any metrics go down since you got off to it and I feel my happiness go up. You know what I mean? Like I and I have everybody's phone number. I can text Felix and will and like any of those people that are still on there that aren't on blue sky. I can text them all. Right. I don't have to like really be there. That was the last little thing was like I I need the DMS. Yeah. And once once I have everybody's number it's just like okay I don't even need the fucking DMS anymore. And once once I have everybody's number, it's just like, okay, I don't even need the fucking DMS anymore. I just and I just was like, I don't know, man. That site feels and

blue skies. Definitely this kind of the same, but I guess there's not a Nazi running it. How does it feel? How does it feel over there? It's confrontational still which I like it feels like old Twitter like old early days Like, you know, you can say something and people will get mad at you for an insane reason and then you goof on that guy all day It's like the same thing as the olden days without like the the the racist guys Even though there are the racist guys are there too But just you gotta have the weight through nine snuff films before you get to a good joke. Yeah Yeah, and like, you know, I think it was when Mike and Jesse from your Kickstarter sucks left

I was like I didn't really change My metrics I was like yeah, I'm out of here man If it's if I get, the show, I don't need it. And you know what? I'm doing well enough anyway. Brian's rich now, of course. So that's very rich. Yes. We known for having money. Brian's the our rich friend. Oh, yeah. did I I get it

I'd like they call me the trap Chris makes fun of me for traveling now because I I and I barely do it You know what? I mean, I just went to Tucson like uh-huh Two weeks ago and I'm going to California next week Damn, you're a west coast guy when you get out of when you get out of town you go to the west coast Every fucking time. Well, yes, I'm going to Toronto in April, though. I really like I like Toronto now. Like, I love it there. I love Canada.

I know we're all supposed to hate them and stuff like that and try to make them the 51st state. But I'll tell you, I'm a huge fan of that country. They do everything the right way or they do everything in a way that I respect more than the way that we do things in regards to like laws and stuff like that. Like when you're up there, it's like mushrooms are illegal up there. Oh, interesting. So people just have there's just dispensaries. They get busted. They get charged a little bit of money and then they just open a goddamn dispensary back up. I like the concept of and that's how that's what happened with weed up there too. You could get weed at a dispensary before it was

ever legal. It was just they, they get it to like, it feels like they get it to like a critical mass where it's like, we might as well just make it, make it legal. Now it's everywhere. Like in the city of Toronto, there is a weed dispensary and a mushroom dispensary every like three blocks. It's crazy up there. So that's how to get so it's like just go ahead. I was just gonna say it's just like Tulsa King in that sense that it's just like you just they just go to they get shut down.

They pop up under a different name after paying a little fine or something and then nobody really cares as long as they keep paying the fines. Yeah, nobody cares. It's crazy. I because I remember hearing that about that man like in the nine these late nineties early two thousands that you could go to Vancouver and just smoke weed all day at cafes and it was still illegal but you could do it. And I remember that being

a huge thing. So then when I went up to Toronto that first time and saw those mushroom dispensers, I was like, Oh, they must be legal here. And I was like, no, they're not. They're just here. They just have a storefront and most of the time, nobody bothers them. You know what I mean? And I like that. I like that way of doing it. Other than the way where we just beg the oldest men in the world to please let us have a crumb of weed or something like that in our state. You know, they do like direct action. They flood the streets with drugs and then they're like, what are you going to do?

Now you got to make it. Now you got to make it legal because we put so much out there. There's no way you could possibly criminalize that much. You know? Well, that's, that's the French. That's the French influence. You know what I mean? That's, that's them saying like, you know, we won't be assessed.

We're going to take to the streets, do something about it. They can't, they can't kill us all, you know? People like it, Todd. You know what I mean? So it's like, oh, well, people like this. So we might as well just have it. And, and that to me, that's the way to fucking do it. Also, there is the neighborhood in that city that looks like no neighborhood in any urban city I've ever been to. That's like, uh, it just

looks very old. It looks like like gangs of New York and it has some of the coolest stores I've ever been to in my life. Like it's like, you know, guys outside with like a booth with a grill and it's selling like a S S selling shish bobs. It's great. I Canada fucking rules and maybe that's just cause all of my co-hosts are Canadian now that I have to run with a lot of Canadian guys and also to your arguably half Canadian. I am arguably half Canadian. Yes. Third Canadian or whatever. Okay. My dad pretends he's from So I'm that I'm Canadian and that my father says I was in I lived in Canada until I was nine years old, which makes me Canada. Now he wasn't born in Canada. He's a United States citizen.

He was born in Buffalo, the greater Canada area in fairness. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Buffalo's Canada. I guess it's culturally Canadian I mean there's a lot of bills mafia extends well into the territories Well, I keep telling him like because he you know, we get into politics Sometimes when we talk I I think mainly because he thinks I still do a political

No dad it's about come And farts. Is it a whole episode with farts? And my dad think I with fart guys and my dad thinks I do a political podcast, but he's always like, yeah, you know, I went to school up there till I was nine when I got to America. They were like, oh, you're three grades ahead of everybody. I was like, oh, fuck you, dude. There's broads in Canada.

Well, they are like, much like we are, as friend of the show, Alexander Avenia likes to say, three oil companies in a trench coat. You know, I'd say America is that too, but our trench coat also has like heroin and, you know, other illicit substances tucked in the pockets and whatnot. But, you know, for three oil companies in a trench coat, you know, they get a couple of things right. Yeah. Yeah. This is not bad up there. They're funny guys, too. That's the thing about it is they're funny guys and like every and like, it's funny, Tom, you heard this yesterday. We recorded yesterday's show that comes out a little later

Our bonus show but Chris is me and Chris are gonna go hang out in Portland in a couple weeks and his mom's mad at him Just go into the United States I have to say I do love the Canadian pushback on Trump's tariffs me too Yeah, like like that that that championship of the four nations thing Where is Canada versus the USA like there was no chance they could lose that they knew that was like That was like they're storming the Bastille You know what I mean? Like if they would have lost that to the states that would have been such a dent culturally

Yeah, and we could say and since we lost it's just like well you invented the fucking game. I mean, of course you fucking won. If you didn't win, that'd be pathetic. Yeah, it is like Chris was saying he went to a fucking Canucks game. And when they started doing the national anthem anthem they booed the national anthem. I'm like that that rules man. Like it's funny because the you know we like we think we don't we know we're a bunch of idiots but like the Trump people think that we're like the toughest people in the world and that like we fucking call the shots and sometimes do, but it is funny that like how offended we get when somebody doesn't like America. Like, you know, it is so crazy. Cause like we talked about the freedom fries and French fries recently and the, and that kind of thing where it's like the French people

were just kind of like, let's not go to war. And we're like, fuck you. You don't exist anymore. Yeah. And that's what we're doing again. That's happening again. It's just, well, you don't exist and we're going to have, we're going to take Greenland or whatever. It's like, I don't know, man. I don't even know why they would want more places other than resources. I guess that's the way. Have some theories about it. We just think that manifest destinies back in. Yeah. You know, well, they don't like you. They, it's not like they like, canate like what, what we make them the 51st day and then we still are like they're but like do they automatically turn into Americans like is that something that they also

Michael my question is like if that was to be the case That would be the biggest state Imagine how large a state that would be it would be bigger than any state it'd be bigger than the US So I mean couldn't they then secede That'd be funny if they became a state and then seceded and then I saw some guys saying California is going to secede before the end of this four years and I'm like no they're not. Nope. Nothing's going to happen. They're going to think they're going to turn more conservative. Nope. Nothing's gonna happen. They're gonna build anything. They're gonna turn more conservative California ain't built for tech Texas is laying in wait to do it. Yeah

Build into there it's built into their DNA there Kevin all I think is they all these places that are liberal areas of the United States. They're just gonna turn more conservative I truly believe that we're just it's the we're on a call. We're not on a collision course. We are just on a rightward shift that might never end. I think you're right. You're right. Brian Gavin Newsom just announced he has a new podcast coming out and they asked him who the guests are going to be and he goes here's just a little hint. Take a look at who spoke at CPAC and then he said he was gonna turn the Democratic Party on its head So you're right. I think it's like they're just gonna become

more conservative, but there was recently an article on that was making the rounds on blue sky of somebody doing the whole like extremism doesn't win votes You gotta do sent and I'm like, who the fuck is the president then? Like extremism, like, cause they were saying, let, let, you know, the Democrats need to move to the, to the right or to be more centrist. And it's like they were treating it like, uh, uh, the Trump thing was a reaction against all of Joe Biden's leftist policies and it's like what are those? What are the leftist policies? I don't know of any of them. You

know, dude, I guess he was left his president. He was, he was, he was a DSA president, dude. They said he was the most leftist. They would always say this guy's the most leftist since FDR. Now, I remember. OK, yeah, that was like their big thing. And it was like, you can't fucking fool me, man. FDR confiscated all the gold. You know, I'm not saying that socialists or whatever, but like Joe Biden said, like, you know, if you're you know, your grandmother was, you know, a third Albanian on her mother's side,

then you could get like, you know, 5% of your college paid for that is not confiscating all the gold, you know, they should have, he should have confiscated all the Bitcoin that would be tied if a president confiscated all the Bitcoin Now that is something that I could see happening now I would do it just to fuck with these guys. I'd be like no here's what we're doing as we're our Income tax is now Confiscatory and we're starting with your digital assets first so like I've taken all your apes all your NF NFTs, all the blockchain, all that stuff that's ours now. And these guys would just have no idea what to do. I did you say like the apes are wow. The apes were worthless. The day

they came out, but the apes being worthless makes me so happy. And it always makes me think of people. Do you guys remember people that was like the big first NFT that re P.O.L. that rings like a distant chord in my mind Brian like something just got kind of triggered but I don't know what it was like it's so buried underneath a bunch of detritus and other he sold the first big NFT for 65 million, 69 million dollars. Maybe it was I'm trying to get it really quick, but yeah, he made, he made a NFT and it became and it sold at like one of the auction houses and it sold for a ton of money and it was all the news

and it really was, Oh, here it is on November 9th, 2021. This is a piece called human one. One of people's artworks human one was sold at Christie's for $28,958,000 to Ryan Zurer. And then let's see here. There's another one. He started selling NFTs and he sold every, this is the one every day is the first 5,000 days. A collage of images from everyday series was put up for auction at Christie's on February 25th sold for $69,400 million on March 11th, 2021. So that was, in my mind, that was when people was when people were like, these things are worth something. You know, when people always talk about the house in days of Hollywood, when they were just giving out development deals for like, to like, nobody's basically like Joe Rogan

got a Disney development deal and he was like 22 that's people are like in that space. We're like, man, it ain't like the old days when they just give you 69 million for one, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know, you know, there's no way any are selling now, right? Like I guess we're all in roped off worlds that maybe I'm not seeing it, but I can't imagine a person even paying $25 for an NFT at this point.

Is there, is there a guy with all the apes somewhere just chilling, waiting for them to come back around? They're probably, I mean, Jimmy Fallon probably still has his ape. We should ask him how much it's worth over on your Kickstarter sucks one Week, I was listening and they played a clip The clip of Jimmy Fallon talking to Paris Hilton about their NFTs Their apes when when he got his ape and it was so Fucking funny because it's just these it it's just them saying like, this is

the wave of the future and these are going to be the next big thing. And that's what's fun about AI. You just watch AI and you're like, this is all fucking crap. Like everything that comes out of AI is crap. And they're just going to back that until people realize it's crap. I 100% believe that the AI craze is just a juice tech stocks and that it's basically just going to be nothing more than like Google with like bad human voices

and like shitty art. Well, Google stink that you ever like use. We always goof on the Google AI on guys because you click, you ask it a question and the answer is Totally fucking wrong almost 90 percent of the time. It's just a lie because AI is not real. It's not Intelligence it's being fed all this crap that we've been saying on the internet over time It's just gonna regurgitate the crap in a different order. You know time. It's just going to regurgitate the crap in a different order.

You know? Yeah. I like that. If you Google friend of the show, Josh Olson that says that he wrote for eight for all the seasons of sons of anarchy. Yeah. Which I would, which would have been awesome. But if we're true, you know, Yeah, I'm sure I, I don't, I God, I wish I remembered what it was that I searched. It was so funny how wrong it was?

Dude, it's like in the first iteration of that didn't like people Google mustard gas And it was like telling people that it was like okay to like breathe. Yeah, it's healthy dude. You didn't Just speaking of a I looked at those or go ahead Brian. Sorry. I looked at those AI glasses the last time I got glasses because people who know about me know that I like buying expensive things But I didn't buy them because they're tied to meta and it seems like the the the It seems like the main thing is the camera on the there's like cameras on the lenses which is probably going to lead to some bad stuff because I don't know if

I'm wrong but I know that that the you cannot turn the iPhone camera noise off because people need to be able to hear it because you don't want people taking creep shots of people and stuff. Uh-huh. Yeah So it's like a it's like when a car is backing up. They have that worrying beeping noise Is that what the sound is just like everywhere you go you're emitting and yeah like I'm I just felt like having my my My brain directly tied into Facebook would be a bad thing. No, I didn't think that you need that.

Ryan, you need that constantly tied into. Did you see that? This is extremely dark. Did you guys see that story about that guy who killed like killed himself on? livestream and His final words were if I die make me a meme coin and then like the gun You know didn't go off twice It misfired twice and then on a third attempt and then like within hours people were trading him as a meme coin

So uh oh And then like within hours people were trading him as a meme coin So, uh, oh because it finally worked I live I die live again. It did work. Yeah, he got to become so he he he Did russian roulette domed himself on live stream and then he became a meme coin. He became a meme coin His final words were if I die, let me become a meme coin Uh, you know my sister saw one of her best friends do that in high school in a goof. And like she never got over it. Now it's just like, ha ha.

Yeah. Hey look, you know what made me happy? And this is less dark, is watching, there's a guy on YouTube that's like a, it's a personality that like like his whole thing is that he busts influencer scams and stuff like that Uh-huh his name's coffee Zilla and I've been watching his videos about the Hawk to a lady And it just makes me so happy

Happened she Pulled a bunch of people and disappeared. She just dipped out. She was just like, my, my thing. He started, somebody got her to start a meme coin and then she did a rug pool and disappeared and it popped back for one podcast real quick. And then the guy that she had on the podcast that was like a Cryptocurrency guy he came on with her and he was like He looked into what was going on and talked to me. He's a please don't release this She fucking leaked it and it's just her being like, I don't know. I don't know what happened

So that's a pretty good hillbilly accent But she just didn't she she she was like they were talking about the contracts and stuff like that She is like I didn't read the contract. It's like, oh my god This is gonna happen to these people now like the hawk to a coin is gonna get this woman get this woman in jail. Well, you know what I mean? By rug pull. Is that just like a pump and dump scheme? Yes. Yes. Yes. I believe and I'm pretty stupid. So somebody's probably gonna tell me I'm wrong is that like she announced the coin. People bought the coin. Then she, uh, ended she kinda, uh,

turned off trading or something like that or like she decided to cash out after the people bought the coins. So she cashes out all the money that people spend and then their shit becomes worthless. I believe is how it works. And it's very fucking crazy that like is this woman who did a who talked about spitting on a penis, made a ton of money and now might go to jail? Damn. That was that was that one. Had it all. She did.

She really did. If she wouldn't have got in with those guys, if she wouldn't have got in with those crypto guys, she was on the upward trajectory. Exactly. with those crypto guys she was on the upward trajectory exactly she got what she got all of our dream is that one day somebody hears us say one thing and they're like I think I can get you millions of dollars to stop this funny thing you said once that's the fucking dream that's what's been in our head ever since we saw those Budweiser Frogs commercials when we were young, you know?

Yeah. Or when they caught when the guys caught played play phone tag, say, what's up? That's I've thought that I've been scheming since I was like, all I got to do is say a goofy thing with my buddies one time and I'm on the road to riches. Yeah. And then she had it. She did it. She fucking pulled it off man and like was going on oh God you got a camel Fallon like all the light not bill maher had her on bill maher's creeping on her heart

There's two bill maher club randoms. It's that one which creeps you out and then the one where he talks to two nine-year-old kids No, yeah, that was hard to watch. Yeah the kids are like Ezra Klein and Nate Silver. She's like she's on she's on Bill Marcy's like I'd like to be an actor and he's like don't just don't do it. You know what I mean. And he's trying to explain to her like all these untalented people make all this money. I'm like, bill, she talked about spitting on a penis. That's like the thing that she did. There isn't a another thing. There's not like another gear she can kick into, you know, it's sell as many t-shirts as you can in one month. And then you're set, which sounds great. Sounds great to me.

I'll I'll talk to if I'll come up with something like that. It's interesting how if she had come out 15 years ago and done that, we would have metabolized it and she'd be out right like the chocolate rain guy or anything like that. Right. But like now who's the chocolate Ranga exactly? I think he passed away. I think he's no longer with us perhaps Geez rest in peace. Yeah, many kiss. I might be confusing him with somebody else, but it's like a YouTube But an early viral YouTube thing like why do viral people like one hit wonder stick around for so long that the only reason

she went away is because She scammed a bunch of people and crypto thing Like I gotta find a cave to hide in I Think that the reason now is that there is now an avenue for these people to be like I'll do a podcast You know Avenue for these people to be like, I'll do a podcast, you know, like I'll do a podcast because she I didn't even see the original video when it came out. What I did was I went to Nashville with Katie for a few days. You were there with Mike and not when it happened. Like I think a few days after it happened right and there were so many t-shirts that said hawk to there were already like pick up trucks with hawk to uh bumper stickers on

um and stuff like that like it was everywhere I didn't know what the fuck it was and I don't remember how I even found out I think I just went online and searched it. Like what is that? And I was like actually kind of surprised at what it, what it was, but it was so ubiquitous that it was like, man, you know, she's gotta be getting some shirts out as soon as possible. Yeah. Because I'm sure that was other people making money off of it, but it just, it felt like it's funny. That's like our it's that's equal to like striking oil now you know what I tell you something man everybody thinks they're in the media business or the music business or this business or that business and once you find out at the end of the day is you just in the t-shirt

business no yes not on the social media, but not us. We're officially out now I'm only in it. I'm at limited drop period of my life. No t-shirts in my home ever Like yeah, I don't want them. I don't want to do it It's but you're you're either in that or you're in the social media personality business Which is easier? obviously business, which is easier obviously, but also is finite too. Like you like all of this is all of this is finite, but like if you're in the influencer way, right? Like, like I don't think there's still Hawk to a fans. I don't, maybe there are, maybe there are

people like, damn, when did the pot why the podcast after and it's like, cause she's hiding you dumb fuck. Yeah. She's, she's, she's what's called a waiting trial. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it happens to like, it's crazy. Like that, that new, there's that new thing now where like there's so many TV shows about people faking cancer. You know what I mean? The, the, the, and like that's also like, it's just people who are like, I think I can make money. Like the one that's Scamanda one where she just fucking in ripped off a whole church like did you hear about that like this woman pretends to have cancer and like really bad cancer and then

she gets tied in with a mega church and she's just they're doing like things where she'll go up and give speeches at the mega church and people just put throw money in front of her like on the floor like and stuff like that and then they find out like She had pictures and she was doing a whole blog about cancer and she was doing I'm gonna kick cancer's fucking ass You know what? I mean like like sassy Everybody loves a cancer warrior. Yes, but she had never had it. She never even once had it She was going to the hospital checking into the emergency room and then taking pictures of herself

With the IVs in her arm from being in the emergency room so Honestly, there's commitment to the to the work to the the Griff. Do you say her name was Amanda? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Her name was Amanda something she was from I think it was San Jose, California And yeah that mega church man and they they like stuck with her for a long time And then the police came and was like hey She might not have cancer

And then the police came and was like, hey, she might not have cancer. And it was shit. We gave her a lot of fucking money. Well, the only person I knew in Eastern Kentucky that pulled that off was also a woman named Amanda. So I don't know if it's something about Amanda's or whatever, but I knew a woman named Amanda that pulled that grip successfully for a number of years. And it was like, wait a second. And then where she went wrong was claiming that she had received prayer in a prayer line and that God had supernaturally

healed her. And that's when people started asking questions. Yeah. Yeah. Christians are like, I don't know about that. Yeah. Yeah. I say, I believe this, but do I, you know, But do I? You know Because that's that's this lady. It was just like She's saying she has brain cancer She did shave her head But they were doing stuff like for her They were doing that smart. That's smart. I like that signals to people you might have cancer

Yeah, they were doing stuff for her like this The three Chili's locations and this town are giving all of the proceeds from what they sell tonight to her. Like it was, she was like a portion of our baby back ribs proceeds are going to Amanda. Yeah. He was just too, she got so famous that it's like, um, you should just say one of these clinical trials. You're lying about being involved in Our our right, you know what I mean where it's like she should just be like cuz she kept saying she's flying in New York For clinical trials and the fucking real scummy thing is her husband was like, I didn't know she was faking it's like come on It's like, come on, dude. Jesus.

Like, he got off. So he, her partner, just had no idea of her scheme is what he claimed. My, my biggest fear. There's no world in which. You imagine a family that goes through like a cancer battle where the husband just doesn't know. Well, not that he knows that she has it. He doesn't know she's faking.

And they're and they. but there are pictures of them sitting at the hospital together where he's saying my beautiful wife is getting cancer treatment. Thing was she wasn't getting cancer treatment and I assume he would have had to have known that being there. What my fear with doing that is that what if you eventually do get cancer in the process of doing it you know what I'm saying I mean it would be good for the bit but it would be bad for you mentally and also too you will have exhausted your sympathy at that point you know I mean when you're like when you really have it

you need that you don't have it anymore because I would just I would go full bore into it and be like I was faking at first but now I really do have it like I yeah well the other one was sure you do buddy the other one was on Netflix well and it's funny she got caught she goes to jail for a few years. She gets out and she goes, I'm having health problems again, which is really, please, but there's also one on Netflix, a TV show called Apple cider vinegar that was about a woman who was an influencer who said she cured her brain cancer by eating raw whole foods and comes out with a book and then like basically the gist of the story is she says she had brain cancer. She didn't. And she says she ate. She drank like green juice and did colon cleanses coffee

animals. Yeah. And it cured her, and then when somebody caught on to it So her her her publicist or whatever catches on to it and confronts her about it. She's like fine I'll tell people the truth and then the next day she did an Instagram post saying like actually I have blood cancer brain cancer Bone marrow like she just starts naming. She has like seven kids. I'm eating up with cancer So, okay, so so What's strange about all that is like all these weird? Have y'all noticed this like shift in like homeopathy sort of like becoming mainstream and now like with Optimization culture particularly like within the bro like workout culture. It like, but the raw milk guys are part of this, you know, there's all types of like, you know, crazy health claims made about like certain products,

apple cider vinegar, all that kind of stuff. And it's like, lose weight and do this. And it's like, we, we have known for some time, the only way you lose weight is to consume fewer calories than you expend. That's just immutable law of the universe. Right? And yet, and yet we soldier on with these products and like, well, actually to get this benefit, you know, you got to drink the raw milk, you got to eat the raw honey, you got to do the coffee enemas, you know, the fasting, the cold plunge, all that stuff. And we all know that most of it doesn't add

up to much, you know? But like it, we are so consumed with grift at every level of society that like our goalpost for what a scam is, has like just moved. You know what I mean? Yeah. Also that whole homeopathy part, the, the, the surprising thing to me, this happened during the pandemic, uh, where a lot of crazy things happen, but, uh, uh, make it hit shifting to a conservative, like ideology was really crazy to me because that just seemed like a group of people that were always going to be, you know, on, on the left, I guess. I don't know. I don't know that I ever pictured like homeopathy people being Trump guys. You know what I mean? And so it was such a surprise

to me. I guess part of it is, is a RFK junior kind of shepherd at home in that direction. Well, but I don't even think it was that I think it was going I think it's something he caught on to happen I Will say part of it is like I grew up in like the sort of the Pentecostal Church that was very much into like the Guys, we cover on holy boys, you know Like yeah My mother like gave money to Kenneth Copeland or Roberts like these guys when I was a kid growing up and they were all the time hocking wares that were like, I remember Benny Hinn at one point when I was a kid was selling like, uh, chelated

minerals that were supposed to pull impurities out of your body. Like, so these guys were conservatives, obviously, cause they're evangelicals, but they were, you know, Jim Baker, I mean, Terrence, we've talked about it's like Jim Baker selling like the doomsday like seeds and all that kind of shit Like these guys have been grifted in that realm like for a minute So it's not super super surprising to me But the fact that like stuff that you used to associate with like crunchy hippie well like store in your neighborhood is now like the the the dominion of like RFK and Trump and all this stuff is kind of weird dude

The thing is we are reliving the 60s, but it's not the libs who are doing a counterculture moment It's the conservatives the conservatives are like feeling there. I mean they're in a they're having a 60s guy, dude I remember a few years ago right maybe 2023 maybe just a few years ago. There was this video circulating on Twitter from this guy who was interviewing people in hate Ashbury in like 1969 and all the things that these people were saying in this video was a one to one thing that they say in like Dime Square and Among the JD Vance crowd and among the RFK jr. Crowd like they're having a countercultural moment They're revolting, you know against the last like 30 40 years of like hegemonic. We believe in science

Blah blah blah, but it's just ultimately like a surface like surface thing It's not really like deep reaching into like political economy really Right the most annoying people in the world are are like on top I I guess not on top But yeah, that it's the most annoying people in the world have signs in their yard that say like I believe in science and all That shit. Yeah, so then people are like well that guy's fucking annoying it's same thing I happen with atheists right like I've in science and all that shit. So then people are like, well, that guy's fucking annoying. It's the same thing that happened with atheists, right? Like I'm an atheist and it was always fine. You know, it wasn't a normal. And then all of a sudden it turned into the most annoying guys in the world are atheists. So now you just got to

be quiet about being an atheist. It became red. It became red. It's yeah. We we is another thing. Like I love weed. You know, but annoying people were way too into weed and said that cured cancer and stuff like that too. And then you're just like, okay, well, weeds is not cool anymore either. Yeah. I said they have a Wu Tang clan and Biggie. Yes. Yes Wu Tang Clan, especially real hip-hop, you know, that's yeah what they do but in like the 1950s Like there was a cultural consensus that had to be There to you know, hold the economy up And that's what the liberals were revolting against like it was a conservative cultural consensus

That's what they're revolting against in the 60s but like under neoliberalism like the the the hegemonic culture is liberal and That's what that's why they are able to revolt against that and that's why it's Becomes a countercultural subversive thing even though doesn't mean anything really at the end of the day It's contrarianism like yeah exactly. It's like that serious like politics, but really truly It's like you all are really not into this shit like you couldn't be there's no way you could be a too traditional Catholicism I'm sorry In earnest, you know that stuff has gotten silly like it's like

Hey, I don't know if I guess it's like I have to stand out You know cuz it's it's a lot of influencer types and stuff like that They're like I have to stand out from the other people that I'm being tied into well, that's cuz I'm a Catholic now I'm actually Catholic I do a lot of coke and hang out at bars most of the time. But in a Catholic way, I actually, you know, believe in Catholicism. And it's so weird to me. I'm doing stuff is so.

Coke in a Catholic way. Yeah. OK. Catholic way. And so I can think about God more. I do it more talk. Hell, yeah, dog. Your prayers.

If you're on cocaine, your prayers are so insane. Probably like they're badass. You can fit so much shit into your prayers. If you're on coke, you're like, dear God, are you there? Listen, my mom's got kids. You know what I mean? Like, you're just fucking riffing. And God is just like, I'm making my petition known in the most manic way possible.

I was telling Tom and Chris this yesterday that like there is a, there is something to be said about how I'm not talking about like political culture. I'm talking about like pop culture and like, uh, uh, that kind of thing, uh, where we're still reckoning with COVID making people go crazy. And like, so a lot of podcasters and stuff like that, it just fucking turned them into something else. You know what I mean? That that's where this stuff started taking off. A lot of rock bands broke up during COVID because one, one or two people in the band were just Went crazy and it's like it feels like a one out of every ten people go crazy and then

you know one out of one out of those every ten people were in a band or did a podcast or Did you say the offspring drummer just like totally just turned against the lead singer because he was like a pro vax like science guy and he was just. Well, the lead singer has a PhD in I think molecular molecular biology or something like that. Yeah. Dexter Holland has a PhD and the drummer was like, I just don't think the vaccines work. And he's like, well, they do work and here's why. And he's like, no, like, cause that's really that world.

That is a microcosm of what happened was that like, we got this thing. We need a vaccine. We get a vaccine. I don't really think it works. Why not? Cause I don't you know, yeah To my research says no, let's not yeah. Yeah The winds just tell me no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and that's what happened with the boss tones to the Mighty-mighty boss tones. There's a few other bands and I don't spring don't spring that on Terrence He's waiting for that messianic scar revival here and that's well, Dickie Barrett's not going to be involved. He's in an anti-vax super group. Now I believe he's in a super group with the drummer from the office. Who else? He backs. I don't remember. He's gone an anti-vax cause they don't place. No, because they're all different sorts of bands. I can find out because he

he went he got kicked out of the Boston's because he because he was anti-vax and he was hanging out. Oh they're called the defiant of course. That's so good. Former members from the offspring smash mouth the Boston Street dogs and the Briggs unite and form the Define so it is a anti-vax super group that they've created. Who's the smash mouth guy? Oh, I actually only know the one that died. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's just Smash smash mouth anti-vax advice search that it's definitely gonna come up His name is Greg camp. Okay Yeah, Oh south smash mouth singer mocks coronavirus pandemic a packed Sturgis motors like go rally concert

So yeah, that is that he drank himself to death not long after that, right? Yes. He did. Yes. Yes, so yeah They got the the defiant. Yeah, he died at 56 Mmm, I don't think I'm listening to this guy's opinion But yeah, it's a band of and you know, we talked about what I mean Van Morrison and Eric Clapton Like Eric Clapton was always crazy, but I don't think anybody believed he was crazy because he's like He's like a Columbus, Ohio saint. You know what I mean? He from Columbus. He's not from here, but he lives here. He well, he lives part of the time here. He might not even that anymore. He might be divorced from the yeah. Yeah. He spends a lot of time here. Wow. He did spend a lot of time here.

He might be gone now. I might be divorced probably some vaccine stuff. He was like vaccine doesn't work. I don't like it or something racist. That's always fits in perfectly here. Always fun when there's like a super famous person just kind of lives in your town. Yeah. And people just are like I saw him that it's like Jack Hanna here too. We have Jack Hanna. Yeah. Because of the zoo and people are always like Dave Thomas. Like, yes, sir. Yeah, I got some hitters, Brian. Well, Jim, Jack Hanna is really fun because, you know, anybody that's ever worked in a warehouse or at a restaurant or something knows somebody who said, Jack Hanna fucked

my buddy's friend's wife while they were still married like basically they've they've made Jack Hanna into a home wrecker just like that that's like the urban legends that Jack Hanna is just going around ruining wrecking homes fucking wives it's crazy dude I worked at Bath and Body Works warehouse and heard a guy say it I worked at a restaurant and heard a guy say it. It's just such a common thing around here That it's not even surprising anymore when you're talking to a guy and you bring up Jack Hanna and like oh he fucked my friend's wife Hey look you gotta kind of look up to him if he's really fucking that many wives

He's got something going on. You know You imagine he's just taking you to look at the lemurs one day. You know what I mean? It's like Chase was And he's like kind of talking to your wife more than he's talking to you. Yeah Hey the scouting reports out on you pal pal. Let's write it a little bit. The other guy we have here is his name's Fred Reichert. And there is a car dealership. It is one of the largest.

Well, I don't know about they say it's one of the largest in the country, but I feel like I've seen that in every city I've ever been to in my entire life. Did they have like the auto mall? That's the biggest. But so Fred Reichard is this guy who, who he did the commercials for the, for the used car lot, right? Yeah. And you're like play guitar. He would dress up like a chicken or whatever, you know, he's a goof. And like, uh, one of the rumors was that he was, he was walked in no he his wife walked in on him and his wife sent the commercials to Lynn Lynn Rikerts in the commercials and she walked

in on him fucking a woman and then she walked out and she came back in and shoved a hot curling iron up his ass and that's like the bed that is a rumor that anybody that grew up where I grew up will tell you as though it's true Even though it's impossible. It's like the but I believed it for so long That's like when tony cavalier got the gerbil stuck in his ass the huntington, west virginia newsman There's different there's regional variations of that urban legend You know what I mean? But rich gear, Richard gear, and also the rod Stewart had to get come pumped out of his stomach. He had so much come from sucking

so much penis that he had to get his stomach pumped. Yeah. These guys wish Rod Stewart was gay. Rod Stewart probably really was fucking their wife. I love fucking there. I Love that stuff. I I mean I'd hate to be Richard Gere or Rod Stewart. I think although you know fucking who cares You know that's a great route. I would not hate to be Richard Gere Pretty fun laugh Not also, that's not a bad rumor to To have attached to your name the gerbil in your ass is a little it's a little loose But having to have your stomach pumped from too much cum that that makes you sound like a legend like you you'll walk It's different. I I think it's different now than it was in like

1998 like in 1998 you did not I 1998 like in 1998 you did not I We thought damn I just keep bringing up that we talked yesterday Tom When Chris was asking me if we ever pat each other on the balls when we were growing up like ball check people Yeah, and I was like no man that was considered very gay He was awful it was awful by that and getting your ass smacked with a wet towel took titty none of that happened What titty twisters? Purple your pools purple nurples or we elbowed each other on the back of that we did dusty roads We would run up behind you in the hallway and do the hands and head

And we did this thing. Yeah, probably, we also did this thing, which is brutal. Walk up behind somebody and whack his ears. You know what I mean? But the nuts were off-limit. That's crazy. That's too gay, yeah. Touching balls, man.

You're touching that guy's balls. It's like a guy's getting really excited. Y'all are doing the ear thing and the Dust roads thing and he's just like really excited and bag text But then like the air just leaves the room. Everybody's just like What are you doing? God Brian, you're a little bit older than me and Tom though. Like maybe that's why maybe you can track like this slow acceptance like Elder Millennials are maybe a little more homoerotic for that reason like we were all I would I would say yes because there was a period

I I've brought this up many times in the past where when I was in sixth and seventh grade like we were all fucking this this guy was like kind of dating this girl in as much as you date somebody in eighth grade. And she goes and tells everybody she was she was what he breaks up with her. She goes and tells everybody she was somewhere around his house and she saw in the window and he was jacking off. And like to me, I was like that. You got this guy got caught. This is fucked up. You know what I mean? I was like, I don't know like that you got this guy got caught. This is

fucked up. You know what I mean? I was like, I don't know what's wrong with this guy. And like it was to me, it was all on him. It wasn't on a weird lady saying I was peeking through your windows and saw you jerking off. It was all on him was like this guy. I can't believe this guy jerks off. And then we were standing there and he goes, hell yeah, I was jerking off. then we were standing there and he goes hell yeah I was jerking off and we were like this is the bravest man I've ever met in my entire life I remember I wouldn't have said that yeah I remember just looking at him like whoa dude this guy wow and I think

that is like a such a generational difference because a few years later like he was a trail blazer because a few years later that like he was a trailblazer because a few years later, that's all anybody talks about. You know what I mean? That's just wild. Yeah. I like, I think I'm just like on the edge of this weird look like way more. It was more repressed, but not like, like it was more repressed in like a In a weird way than just even three years later Things were totally fucking different three years after you know that happened things were totally different people You know Jack joking around about jacking off and stuff like you still didn't tap each other's nuts because that's touching another guy's nuts Uh-huh, but uh

We kind of shattered the glass ceiling with that our generation We did yeah Like bag tagging your boys actually a win for for gay rights. That's true. Yes Gen Z can thank us we became a rail unable to reproduce also they During pride month one year they're gonna say this is the 20th anniversary of the first bag First bag taggers. Yeah, we're gonna be looked at is like Harvey milk one day Walking down it's got like a big float of like a finger flicking

This is this is what it all started turning around. It's interesting how like local cultures need, what was that guy's name Brian? Fred Riker or something like that? Fred Riker, yes. It's interesting how like local cultures need like a local celebrity to like, or the newscaster, like guys who are not really that famous Outside of like the tri-state area or something you know what I mean It's just like and have to live the also Terrence have to live the worst part about being a famous guy That people make rumors about you and goof on you. They don't get any they don't get to go to the fucking Grammys

No, yeah, they don't get to date Sabrina Carpenter They just get to hear it like it's with subject to urban legends about getting shit shoved in their ass Imagine in imagine how many times people Like have asked say like Fred Reichert knows that people say he got a hot curling iron I was asked he fucking knows knows he would have to. And how many times he's had to answer that question. And even a person with a half a brain would be like, so she, he, she walked in, she heated up the curling iron and then he just kept

fucking and she just stuck it in his ass while he was like the logistics of the whole thing. Don't make any fucking sense. Yeah, but he has to live with that Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well she did she greased it up and then heated it and then stuck it right up there, you know I'm just wondering what it is about us as humans that need that kind of like lore Specifically fixated on those types of individuals, right? It's just like we need fixated on those types of individuals, right? It's just like we need something to I've talked about this in the past Terrence that that like especially you guys would definitely understand this is like you have this ambition to be like a radio show host or like a podcast or like a comedian and or something like you have this ambition, but you grow up in a part

of the country where there's like nobody doing it. You like nobody in Columbus. So I didn't know a famous Columbus comedian. You know what I mean? And like, so I think what happens is, is that like, and we create famous people so that we can talk about, so that we can see a person that succeeded even though like owning a large color car dealership one is probably great money and two is probably evil guy but like we look at that guy and we're like this is also a famous guy and I could run into him on the street and he is fucked up just as much as you know other guys I've made up I just think we create fame in order to feel like we're close to it in a way that we you know don't believe that we

are like I remember going my first open mic and not even I just like couldn't believe people were doing stand-up comedy and Columbus Wow, that's wild so I think I just create famous people I Think you're right. Yeah, like yeah our relationship celebrities totally different now. Well, and it's like yeah Yeah, cuz you can be one from anywhere. You can be Hawk to I'd be famous Well, we can displace a lot of our fears and anxieties onto them Maybe a lot of we have a collective fear of getting a hot curling iron stuck up our ass and so we're like Let's just pin it on Fred Reichardt. Yeah, fuck that guy Some guy saw the curling iron sitting on the sink for his wife is like what if somebody stuff that on my ass

Yeah, I got yeah, he like he like walks the chalk and like is like whipped you if somebody stuffed that on my ass? Dude. Yeah. He like, he like walks the chalk and like, is like whipped, you know, but his wife, because it's like, he's just like afraid that he's going to wake up with a hot curling iron up his ass. Maybe it's a good service. And then why you wonder how, like I, I, I get creating famous people. I think the thing is you wonder how the rumor got out there. How who who who was like who was the first guy to say that Rod Stewart was full of cum like and like was it an organic thing. Was it a rival record label. Oh yeah. Really. Record label You know, give me page was like the way

But the way that we know how you think you skin is information travel Bob Dylan started The way that we know about how information travels now and how a lot of things happened about how information travels now and how a lot of things happened. You can't discount that the fucking FBI was like, we're going to make Rob Stewart look really gay. That's true. That is true. It's not. I don't think Rod's I don't think it was FBI. But I mean, I would believe you if you said like Capitol records was like this fucking Rod Stewart sound too many albums Favorite is that Ross Stewart has a greatest hits collection called the definitive rod Well, we got to go right Brian you got to to get out of here at 12 10. So I have yeah, I have to I have to do guys plus Which is a long show where I talk about weird guys again

for March 21st this episode is for March 21st. That's mr. Ahead of time dude. What they call me Yeah, well you don't have to talk about anything related to the mot current times you can just Record ahead that's what saved me from burning out Yeah, that's I don't burn out like I used to because it was like three shows a week, which by the way I know everybody works like long hours and it sucks Yeah, but three shows a week was so much for me to do like that way now it's like let's record two shows a week for fucking a month and then a couple weeks off you know and then brag about it all the time about all the time i have off and off to myself yes this is how the other

half lives yes it's wonderful people expect you people expect very little from you like I said, we just did fart guys And it's the most divisive episode we've ever done Thing is it's maybe my favorite episode we ever did so it's kind of like people are like I had to turn it off It's like come on. Yeah, I get ever heard of fart before because these are some nasty farts Brian if you want to run back gambling guys anytime soon. I Have I have I have Terrence has heard this but I have a story to end all stories you've ever heard We're gonna run it, but I think Tom

I think and I think I'm gonna try to get to five years without running one back that is my goal But we do talk about in that about this episode we're not there yet no that's what I'm saying I don't want to run anything back for five years so I think we're near three and like we're getting close and then and because you know how bad I want to talk about sex guys again I'm just such a I'm just so into reading reviews of porno and hedonism to like if there's things I love the most is like reading reviews of sex clubs and reading reviews of casinos like I I'm surprised there's not a full podcast of casino reviews by people because they're the most wonderful reviews

you can ever possibly read. You know I lost lost a bunch of money. That's fucked up. Maybe we can dial in on this one. Do gambling app guys guys that don't go to the physical location. They just do it right from their couch because I'm sitting on this and I need to talk to you about it. We will. We'll get you on a bonus episode when I get back from California. We can talk about it.

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