Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 385: The End Of The Tour

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Signs, wonders, and visions from another troubling week in Trump's America. We do however end with a funny story about Trump's recent soliloquy at the Kennedy Center regarding his failed career in the arts. Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

the Trump people the Trump administration just released those Kennedy files since we were just talking about that And I was just thinking about that guy. His name is like Vince Fusca or whatever Who claims to be I don't know if he claims it I think the QAnon movement has said that he is JFK jr. Like read Yeah, either reincarnated or I guess maybe the theory is that JFK Jr. didn't die he like went into hiding and now he's like back. But that guy is in the background of the Trump shooting like you can see him like just behind Trump in the assassination

attempt and could you imagine how funny it would be if he got shot and died at the assassination attempt because like if that's the if that happened like he would be able to claim like The Kennedy curse, you know, I mean was like, oh, yeah The Kennedy curse even follows you when you're dead and come back to life like the universe Once the Kennedy's dead and also not even a candidate once the Kennedy's dead. And also not even a Kennedy. Or it'd be funny if he like got domed and then he rose again, was resurrected and just handsome like JFK Jr.

He just stood right back up with that full quaffed head of hair of Carolyn Kennedy on his side. That's like something you wanna make, you want to be really careful about like Claiming to be a Kennedy like has anyone ever claimed to be a Kennedy and then got got with the Kennedy Has anyone ever just happened to have the last name Kennedy no relation to the family? It just got doved at like this whole food some shit Yeah, it would be an awful thing. Well, the thing about it is RFK made a deal with Satan to break the curse, but the trade off was that he had to actually appear and sound like an actual golem for the remainder

of his days in order to extend his life past, you know, 52. Yeah. No, that's what his mutilation and killings, well I don't know if he killed anything, but the thing with the bear in Central Park basically making sacrifices, you know to molloc You know, he's making a deal with Satan pretty much You know God said to him Robert you can either live fast die young and leave a good-looking corpse Or you could be a grotesquerie for 85 years your pit Why does it get a top position in the United States government.

Why does the Trump administration want to release the Kennedy files? Like I, I, I looked through some of them and just reading from my, you know, parapolitics accounts that I follow on Twitter, like there is some actual substantial stuff in there In that the New York Times headline was really funny the New York Times headline was like literally like oh, there's nothing here It's just there's no just further proof that Lee Harvey Oswald definitely just did it by himself. There's nothing here

No, the headline was like yes his head just did that His head just did that There's like there's there's a photo of Alan Dulles holding a smoking gun with like a direct line and you see Kennedy like with his brain splayed out Jackie crawling out of there. That's just you know that's just how things are. Crazy coincidence. Well Terrence the answer well this is not really an answer because I'm not sure I'm not sure of these things But wasn't there like wasn't there a time period?

I mean I guess around now that the files were set to be released I but she doesn't mean that any president would have to obey that but you know All that's why I heard I remember hearing that years ago. That's true something. You know yeah, I forgot about that um That's true something you know yeah, I forgot about that Well that then that means because I've thought about that like I know we've mentioned it several times on previous episodes But I've been thinking about that Peter till op-ed in Financial Times where he's talking about the coming Apocalypse like the and he and he defines it as you know you had to find it here and like as an unveiling And he defines it as, you know, you had defined it, Aaron, like as an unveiling, a sort of like revelation. And like his thing in this completely incoherent article is that the Trump

administration will be the arrival, the final arrival of the apocalypse in that it will fulfill the promise of the early Internet and that it will finally unveil like all of the occluded secrets of the past like who who shot JFK? What really happened at Roswell? What are they doing at area? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Like that's that is like that's is that really all you wanted you just wanted to know What being hilarious if all those guys were like okay listen? We have to like the only way way we're gonna go to power, the only way we're gonna reveal those secrets

is if we achieve power, right? And the only way we achieve power is to throw some chum to these fucking bloodthirsty maniacs who are mad about, you know, a fucking, you know, broad cross section of things. And so like we've had to subjugate and do all these crazy insane things bring Steve man all these bloodthirsty Maniacs into the fold just so we can get our hands on the JFK files

It's like all this was like the whole buildup all this like that's what you wanted Just take a peek at some CIA files that most people don't even give a flying fuck about Most people don't even want to read I saw motherfuckers being like oh it has Jack has chat GPT did anyone put this through chat yeah, I'm like you have eyes motherfucker. You just read that shit I Well I saw this week that Peter till is like trying to write a book about ancient prophecies and apocalypse now like he's He's told oh yeah, dude. He's gone all he's all in yeah He's all in. Yeah, he's all in. Aw man, you know what?

We've mentioned this before, but I feel like, you know, there was a period of time maybe in the 90s when I was growing up, there were a lot of shows like Unsolved Mysteries. I remember a lot of books published about this as well. I mean, I guess throughout the 60s, the 70s, 80s, 90s, whatever, but it seems like that fell upon to the wayside.

As you said before, Tom, it's like we've lost our sense of wonder, you know? So it's's just it's disturbing though to see it come back But from the right though. Yeah, I want my You know disenchanted world Undisenchanted, but I want it undisenchanted on my terms right right you know what I mean. I don't Yeah, that's these guys. You know what I mean? Like I don't, yeah, that's, these guys, you know, I was talking to Terrence yesterday

and I said, let's, here's a little free game for you. You need to write a piece called Revenge of the Nerds. And it is like these guys that are vengeful for like a number of things that have happened. And it's like Peter Till writing about, you know, ancient prophecies and all that kind of stuff. That's like, that's a certain type of nerddom. You know what I mean?

That's like, he was definitely like a high school Wiccan probably, I would imagine. No disrespect to our Wiccan listeners out there. We respect all faiths on this show. The, like the Tesla, so Tesla stocks have like completely collapsed this week. Like I saw one investor was like, Elon needs to step down,

either needs to step down from Doge and return to his job at Tesla or he needs to step down from Tesla. But I feel like that is a kind of little piece of evidence for my thesis a few weeks ago, maybe two weeks ago on the main episode that Or maybe that was just last week. I can't remember that The bourgeoisie is kind of they're not really like in like they've kind of given up on

Their mode of production in a way like this this guy would literally rather like Sin jackbooted thugs to like close down USAID offices. He would he will do that Until his business is completely run into the ground. He would literally rather do that than make money I mean, it's really kind of astonishing. That's what I mean like they've reached the end. There's nothing left for them It's like well. I already have billions of billions of dollars like they've reached the end of capitalists Yeah, they have they finished the internet and they've reached it to cap was made what they don't want to say is that like yeah There needs to be a new epoch. Oh, and it's crypto or it's AI. It's all this stuff It's like if anybody else had the reins it could just as easily be something else

It's just just so happens these fuckers have you know? Gotten there first. I just want to these fuckers have, you know, gotten there first. I just want to say though, if he steps down from anything, I hope he steps down from this mortal plane. You know what I was thinking two turns is that like, it's like on the one hand, they're getting all they want by this deregulation, right? And this regulatory capture furthering that. But their fascistic kind of just, I don't know, impulse does not even allow them,

doesn't even allow him to run his own fucking business. Not to say he's a great businessman, you know? So you reap all the benefits of now capturing the government and you can't even do anything about it because you're so obsessed about the culture war and about immigration and all these issues that are not to say that They're not material you know but aren't you a businessman? Right I mean aren't you aren't you supposed to be making sure that your business is running well

Well, I mean I guess he's also running a you know into the ground so well his business in particular was literally started to It was something that was marketable to exclusively libs you know what I mean like hybrid cars Electric cars like that's not something that the the chuds were buying like they were I think that if I'm not mistaken I think George Clooney owns the first Tesla like Tesla the first one they push off a lot I think you're right Tom because I remember George Clooney being the face of electric cars And that's why they like made fun of him on South Park. You know I remember that in the mid-2000s It's also funny to see like like Elon Musk was a huge funder of Sierra Club up until like a year ago

And then like when the wildfires happened in California He was like no we got shut Sierra Club down because they planted trees in LA and that's why the fires were able to proliferate it's like motherfucker you were funding that like six months ago what the fuck are you talking about well pretending to fund it because none of that money really actually end up coming through except for a little bit so yeah they they they just happen to be the generation of bourgeois that has reached the kind of They've beat the game. You know when you like beat a video game, and you're just kind of like well What do I do now? You know I mean it's a replay this mission

Yeah, I guess I could play it on the harder level, but I don't even want to play this shit anyway Yeah, it's like once you've gotten billions and billions and billions of dollars. You've captured the market on multiple levels You have multiple monopolies. You're the number one military contractor of the United States government, you've won in every regard. There's nothing else to do. There's nothing even else to give you joy or some sense of like, you know, investing in an activity, you know, that fulfills you in some way. And that's, that's what I'm saying. like I think that they're starting to turn on their own they are revolutionaries in a sense or counter revolutionaries like they're turn they're turning on their own

Mode of production there. They are a are a black-pilled bourgeoisie They very much want to end this At a psychoanalytic like at a subconscious level. You know what I'm saying? I don't think that they go out there every day and be like, well, today's the day we end capitalism. I think that they, in the classic sense that like, when you try to repress your own desires

and fears and insecurities, they resurface in these grotesque ways. And I think that that kind of explains why, across the board, they're not, none of them are really able to piece together any kind of forward They like this thing this week is abundance like the abundance agenda of the demo. What is that? What is that even I'm just I couldn't even wrap my and I think Malcolm Harris actually wrote a really good piece about it In the Baffler that I am kind of took a look at I got to finish reading it But what is the abundance agenda? I don't understand it.

What is meant by this? Is this like, are they all becoming prosperity gospel people? Are they talking about building replicators in Star Trek, post-scarcity, where you can just make whatever the fuck you want? What is this? Can I tell y'all what I'm seeing from sort of a 38,000 foot view of all this? These people are all losers. And that seems like a counterintuitive statement because they're like the richest guys in the

world and all this kind of stuff. But that's not what makes you a winner, honestly. Like they're the biggest crybabies in the world. Trump is, you've never seen a victim complex like Trump. Everybody's out to persecute him It's like motherfucker if you hadn't arrived on the national stage bolstered by like the fucking dregs of society like Nobody would give a flying fuck about you. We're not in the cable TV era anymore, right? You know what I mean, which is funny that the figurehead of all this is from like a bygone era of like entertainment essentially

Do you know what I'm saying? They're all losers. Like the Paul brothers, losers. All these guys are losers. The reason they have they have cannily exploited it like the technologies and entertainment modes of the time to like way out kick their coverage proportional to their talent level. And I've say that as a podcaster okay. So like I'm saying this is an era where losers can thrive. Do you know what I'm saying? Where people who have never had any sort of

discernible talent or anything else can really thrive. Not even any charm. No, yeah, like Trump's not even fucking funny anymore himself. It's just sad. Teal and Musk are the rizzless guys in America I mean, there's just not an ounce of Riz on the dog if I had half a trillion fucking dollars you I Wouldn't I wouldn't be sitting here with you right now. I'd be dead somewhere like I would it's just like he's they're all fucking losers

And they are it is a time of ascendancy for the loser. It really is. And if you're sitting there listening within earshot of this and you think, well I'm a loser, I don't have much going for me, my friend, you're gonna inherit the earth. These people are not. These people are not.

These people are gonna be judged, and judged harshly. Not only by history, but possibly a living and just God, if there is Yeah, it it goes back to what we were talking about when we talked yesterday like honestly like You know just By way of like being candid like I'm I'm pretty freaked out. I've been pretty scared and paranoid and experiencing great heaps of fear, you know, and and In thinking about the future and thinking about the fact that like, you know

Watching every day my life expectancy like get shorter and shorter and shorter the end get nearer. Well in fairness that is how it goes That is it Well, yes, but you know what I mean the likelihood of my me dying Shackled to an iron bed in a windowless cell gets higher Whereas the likelihood of me dying Comfortably in a bed surrounded at, surrounded by my loved ones gets lower. So I'm just, and I know that might sound dramatic and I know that may sound like self-centered.

However, after reading that story in the Washington Post about the Doge agents that are like kicking down doors of NGOs that aren't even employed by the federal government It's like literally the institution of peace dog Institution of peace These black shirts kicking at the windows. Yeah, it's like that's what you sip stood for Yeah, institution of peace. Yeah My god, I've somehow missed that.

Yeah. It's just like, as I think about that stuff, I'm like, man, did I choose the wrong path? Like, what have I done in life? Like, what am I doing? But at the end of the day, honestly, I would ten times out of ten, seven days out of the week Choose this path rather than the path that JD Vance has taken I would rather be me Than be him because I almost feel sorry for him in a way It's like you fucking coward grotesquerie just like you know Standing for nothing selling every last ounce of your soul to basically be Hitler 2.0.

Dude, it's... At one of the most decisive points in, like, modern history, you know what I mean? Yeah. You know. You can take the path of least resistance, or you can decide to stand for something, and we will all be judged accordingly when our time comes. I, yeah, I firmly believe we will be judged accordingly. There is, this is not just what you reap in this life you will sow

in the next. I genuinely believe that. I mean well listen man you were talking about like you know life expectancy and one thing um you know you could easily just die of like a heat stroke or a fire right I'm talking about xx environmental external factors that I have no choice over. But I'll tell you what, man. I'd rather go that way than get my head blown off at like, you know, at like a- on a stage making a speech because people fucking hate me, you know what I mean?

So, I'd rather go that way than get assassinated is what I'm saying, you know? So, you know? Well, that's probably also gonna happen. Or, I mean, let's be real. Yeah, this is true. perhaps you are familiar with a scene from the motion picture Mortal Kombat perhaps the last release that was good from New Line Cinema in late 90s Christopher Lambert plays Lord Raiden

you know the god of lightning from the video game uh-huh and he's in this fight with Shang Tsung you know the shapes the shapeshifting sorcerer, you know, that puts on the tournament. And he looks up at him at a certain point and he says, I pity you, sorcerer. And that line stays with me. And I think about saying that to JD Vance when I say him next. I say, I pity you, sorcerer. All these souls you've collected collected not one to call your own

Something real dramatic like I've been rehearsing that what I'd say to this man that time comes you know what I mean Hopefully it never will cuz I never want to lay eyes on the son of a bitch, but Yeah, if you ever find yourself face to face with that asshole something's gone seriously seriously Well I mean stick a pin in that I want to like return to that But I just wanted to we opened this tab. I just wanted to Address it the abundance agenda. I Don't know who tweeted this

It was quoted by at Arn Ness and But I think this sounds like a pretty good summation of what the abundance a mindset is Although Ezra and Derek so it's Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson Although Ezra and Derek lean left the abundance mindset isn't partisan It's the progressives dream of immigration and affordable housing, libertarians push for free trade and deregulation, conservatives love of American greatness, and a rejection of zero-sum thinking from all sides." Wait a second, so everybody's got the reversion of abundance?

Or everybody shares in the abundance as it's like per def the definition now. I think it's it's a Ideology that is I mean it's yimbyism essentially cut deregulate or deregulate cut regulations Build countless amounts of like you know single-family homes But also enforce immigration and See this is what this is what no Marxism does to a motherfucker man You would think that you would address the question of artificial and rails real scarcity

You know and how capitalism kind of reproduces itself and how like I mean all of these things that actually have to do with the kind of reproduces itself and how like I mean all of these things that actually have to do with the Machinations of how it works and why we don't build enough housing, you know, and why deregulation isn't such a good thing, right? But it's like you they're gonna snap We're gonna snap our fingers magically and just you know what I mean take out like the profit the profit incentive in motive, right? Yeah, it seems to me like what they define, what they just, what that is a definition of is literally just neoliberalism. Exactly. Just repackaging neoliberalism from 40 years ago.

But it's making neoliberalism, go, go returns. I was just gonna say that's kind of how you know neoliberalism is dying. The fact that like, what they have to offer now is basically neoliberalism as it was presented 40 years ago. Increase capital gains, deregulate, instill a patriotism and love of country, mystify the racial foundations of housing and urban development and that stuff. You know what I'm saying? It's...

Right. Retreading old ground is really what it is. But like I saw people this week saying Ezra Klein needs to run for president in 2028. And I thought that was pretty tight. That was pretty tight. Oh yeah, for sure, man. Definitely, dude. Well, I mean, did you see that Richie Torres is actually a he's actually an advocate

He's one of the foremost advocates now of the abundance agenda He said that um oh yeah We need to start it in New York City Which if Richie Torres is anything that you aren't on board with or anything that you were promoting uh? It's not a very good thing man Richie needs an abundance of fists upside his goddamn head, that's what he needs. God damn man. Yeah, like there's just guys who, like go be in the Knesset or something.

You know what I mean, like why the fuck, like there's guys that just like join the Senate just to be Israel guys. Like John Fetterman man, you know why the fuck like there's guys that just like join the Senate just to be Israel guys this like John Fetterman man you know I saw him I saw a picture of him at the wailing look like a fucking slob you need to listen if God would have done that to me I I'd have been at the Wailing Wall, too Jesus Christ seriously the last time a man of that stature approached the Wailing Wall was when David was slinging us He is him landing in Jerusalem is like Somehow like the forgot to be the fulfillment of some prophecy you you know, like a Nephilim or some shit like that

Yeah, yeah, I don't want besmirched Goliath because he was Palestinian, you know what I mean? But like there's got to be some sort of you know What army what set did Goliath roll with actually don't even know Philistines Which which I actually don't know if they're past I know that Palestine the word we get from Philistine What that's I've always thought like they've been like they've been like maligning these people for like generations because Philistines become shorthand the culture So it's like uncultured or like barbaric or whatever you know well. That's true, right? I've hit that Palestine the word goes back like thousands of years like it's the word goes back like thousands of years like it's

You know David was a Palestinian you know I'm saying like right the Philistines were probably just another Army or another tribe there on that land like the concept of like Israel the concept of like a Jewish state in Israel is So modern it's hard to even like like it's I know it talked about this on the show When we had him on a few months ago, it's just like the Trying to explain a Jewish state in its current form to someone like 2,000 years ago would be completely They would I mean like what are you talking about? My dad was older than Israel, man. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, when he passed, he was older than Israel. I'm just, I'm sorry, this is not, you can't, I mean, we've talked about this, but you just can't lay claim, like this kind of mythological claim to a country that is just, you know, created within someone's lifetime, man. Well, in the time of, in the time of Christ, it was even just where he grew up was

Like it was referred to as Jewish Palestine. It was still Palestine even then right right right Where is it gonna go with that Goliath we're talking about Federman oh Ezra Klein I listen dude. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me. I must genuinely have some sort of death wish, but I listen to all one hour 20 minutes of David Shore on Ezra Klein's podcast yesterday. Did it scratch that itch for you? You remember how good it felt to be a liberal at one time? Yeah, yeah, dude. I just felt like there was no real sense of like sacrifice But you still had all the right opinions

Did it felt did you get a little bit of that? Honestly, it felt like I don't know how to explain it. It felt like um I genuinely felt like I was listening to a conversation beamed in from like Another drommat or some shit like a drama It's so foreign to you like in where your thinking is and everything. Well, not even just the politics aspect of it. Like their methodology, the way they approach politics is so bizarre. They are so obsessed with polling and statistics.

And it's already hard enough for me because I kind of have, I must have some sort of like number dyslexia or something. the entire and it's already hard enough for me because I kind of have I must have some sort of like number Dyslexia or something like you start throwing numbers at me. I'm immediately just my eyes start glaze brother. I have to now there and they were just like 3.24 percent of the Floridian demographic that voted for DeSantis in 2033 voted in a two point five seven percent

demographic number crunch of psychometrics in 2019 and I'm like what what the fuck are you talking about? What you want to be doing when the Panzer tank show up is crunching numbers That's what I think about like the like the live response to all this It's like you know you hear those horror stories of like when Hitler was NX and Poland and like the Polish army showed up On horseback with sabers in their hands against German Panzer tanks I'm not playing fast and loose that I'm just saying like that's like kind of I mean I even let's actually scratch it I won't quit using World War two examples. These motherfuckers have just like Run amok with that. I'm sorry. I want join that course

Use the Crimean War Tom start using examples from the crime the Battle of Thermopylae. Yeah It was a bizarre The number of time like at one point at one point it was so strange at one point, it was so strange. At one point David Schor was like, Uh, our psychogenic, psychometric, um, model shows that young people just are more and more conservative. And I'm, and it's just like, and then he said that older people are becoming more liberal, and it's like, what the fuck are, how do you define these terms? What do you mean by more liberal like they didn't even mention? the Palestine

issue or the genocide once which is like the the title of the podcast episode is Democrats need to address why they lost and I mean Okay, you went through all these numbers you went through all these like psychometric, psychogenic, statistical models. I like how he's talking like Eminem raps. That's an awfully hot coffee pot. In all of this, they didn't mention this cause at all, especially when they were talking about the fact that young people just didn't vote in this election.

It's like Okay I'm just doing this show over the last year and a half I've taken a lot of shit from people being like oh you really overestimate the extent to which people care about this issue in American politics Okay, if that's true Why is it that in not a single one of these post-election autopsies? Do they ever address this? You're not gonna even address it in passing.

You're gonna sit here and talk to me about like the 3.25% of people who voted for Hillary in 2016 but not 2020, who have a mortgage under $250,000 a year and a child income tax. Like they go through all of these things. The most mundane, microscopic slices of American life and what people could possibly be interested in. And you don't mention this single thing once. It's kind of like giving elephant in the room. You know what I'm saying?

Exactly, exactly, exactly. Well, they lost Michigan because of it. So if nothing else, you have to admit you lost a key. At least once, hey. Yeah, yeah, and that's a state that went 80% for you Exactly. I mean they lost Michigan because of it. So if nothing else you have to admit you lost a key at least one piece Yeah, yeah, and and that's a state that went 80% for you in that one precinct last time and now in Jill Stein beat you this time See what it is man is that they're they reject like overarching meta narratives

You know like and instead they like to focus on the minutia of things, and if you reject the meta narrative and just kind of disregard it, it doesn't require you to actually tangle with the politics of it, right? Right. With how people actually think, right? And also what you yourself believe in, you know? Yeah.

You just use these technocratic kind of models and methods to kind of like, I don't know, you might as well just dump it into a fucking machine it doesn't mean anything the the okay and once again yes my rejoinder to the people that say that I harp on this too much or that like it's just too it's too much of a outside you know marginal issue for America. They're afraid you've got Jerusalem syndrome. They're afraid I have Jerusalem syndrome. Yeah you went to the Wailing Lot while lost your mind Uh-huh, I have Hobbs New Mexico syndrome if I have

If you had grown up in the desert you'd feel this way too It's like abundance agenda Ezra Klein for president Chuck Schumer Hakeem Jeffries to even Tim waltz I see Tim waltz at their stumping like he's gonna run in 2028. I don't care who the fuck it is I don't care what agenda you put forward until you address this issue They are going to keep running candidates that knock off even the most marginally critical candidates of Israel's genocide,

like John Ossoff. They have a warping effect on the party, right? Like it's like you can't, and by that I mean APAC, like their entire lobbying apparatus. This is not something you can ignore. They're going to shape the party regardless, and they're gonna shape it on the grounds of you'd better You'd better back Israel's genocide to the hilt not criticize even a fucking ounce of it Or will primary you and you'll be done, so it's like you got to address that at some point. I'm sorry you can't fucking just Here's how I would do it if I were running as simple as this. It's like I don't think anybody in the world would disagree that like Jewish people face like a lot of persecution over the millennia

and all this sort of thing and one noted extermination attempt at least. Here's what I would say like I believe that that I believe in Israel. I think we should give them the Rhine Valley. Yeah, yeah make the fucking Germans pay for their crime for one fucking. You know what I mean fuck these assholes It's really wild the extent to which you see this like Just how everybody has also given up on another key part of bourgeois ideology, which is multicultural democracies. Nation states. Like, you can have multicultural nation states that include nations within them. Having a Kurdish state

within a larger state. Having a Jewish state. Having various indigenous nations inside of, you know, potentially one that's not so ethnosupremacist as the United States. Like this can be done if you carry democracy to its fullest, you know, extension and execution. But like they've, everyone's given up on it across the board. They're starting to give up on democracy, on the dream of multiculturalism, and now it seems to me, even in some ways, the basic fundamental tenets of capitalism. Right.

One thing I wanted to mention too that I've been seeing liberals say about Mahmoud Khalil is that he should have the right to say whatever he wants to say, although they do not agree with him. And what happened to his, and that's a weird kind of twist, right? Because it sort of seems like you're making like a kind of a half gesture at this supposed belief in free speech, you know? Right.

You know what I mean? Like, if he, so if you don't agree with what he's trying to say, you guys for the last like year and a half and change, right, have been egging on right the admin, the Biden administration right to to approve of cops beating the shit out of students right that language that they use. this manufacturing this entire time. But once it's done in such a way under a president that you don't like and in such an ugly, grotesque, fascistic way, you know, then it's suddenly like, oh well, what he said is not good. The whole thing is what he fucking said. That's the whole point.

Yeah, yeah, dude. That's the whole entire fucking point. Is that you cannot say shit like that and you people are okay with that, essentially. To make it blatantly clear clear like how this plays out Schumer punted on a government shutdown gave Trump and Musk everything they wanted and then dipped out to go do his book tour on how Antisemitism is destroying America

He canceled the book tour and he canceled the book There's one way to just rain Schumer and the boys in, Hakeem Jeffries at all. And it's that every time they go out, everybody's like, remember we made a deal about harassing Mitch McConnell at dinner and all that kind of stuff? We need a generation of people to carry wet towels

with them wherever they go. And anytime you see Schumer or them, you gotta whip their legs roll it out I'll snap it up tight and snap their shit I'll tell you I promise you we'll have everything we want within a week if they can't go anywhere if they're getting welts on their legs All right, nothing hurts worse than that It's also a little demoralizing too. You know what I mean it is there are attempts to

Wave this away to just act like look You know what I mean? There are attempts to Wave this away to just act like look This is quite possibly the bleakest I've ever felt like genuinely and part of it is because this week Israel broke the ceasefire they they Bought you know they they did airstrikes they killed like 500 people once again dead children all over my Twitter timeline The I just wanted to read this

Statement from the Israel's defense minister and I wanted to read, okay, I wanted to read this statement from Israel's defense minister because they're talking about sending ground troops back into Gaza. Residents of Gaza, this is your final warning. Now, you'll notice that this isn't even addressed to Hamas. The first Senoar destroyed Gaza and the second Sinwar will bring it upon it total ruin. The Israeli Air Force's attack against Hamas terrorists was only the first step.

What follows will be far harsher and you will bear the full cost. Evacuation of the population from combat zones will soon resume. If all Israeli hostages are not released and Hamas is not kicked out of Gaza, Israel will act with force you have not known before. Take the advice of the US President, return the hostages and kick out Hamas and new options will open up for you, including relocation to other parts of the world for those who choose. The alternative is destruction and total devastation." I want to read that with this flyer that they've been dropping on Gaza.

It features a photo of Netanyahu and Trump standing side by side. It says to the people, and Israel's been dropping this on Gaza, to the people of Gaza, after what happened in the end of the temporary ceasefire and before we start Trump's compulsory plan, which we will proceed with whether you like it or not, this is the last call for anyone who may share information with us in return for financial support. Reconsider this. The world map will not change if Gaza's people disappear. No one will notice you.

No one will ask about you. Neither America nor Europe cares about Gaza, even the Arab states. They are our allies. They provide us with money, oil, and arms. They only send you shrouds. The game will end soon. This is... Dude, this is a psychopathic nation that

needs to be stopped at all costs for the sake of humanity in the future that is fucking insane this is not even about Hamas anymore it's straight it's not mask off it is straight Gurbels fucking Nazi propaganda they and it makes me wonder genuinely if the only thing Biden was able to do at the end of the day if

the only thing the bear hug strategy amounted to was getting them to tone down this kind of stuff publicly the You know what I'm saying like now that trumps in they can just basically say like we are Nazis we view you as sub Did you know subgenerate? The generate human beings no one in the world cares about you, we will annihilate all of you. You will all be expelled from this area. And for the fucking majority leader of the Senate to go out there and say, I want to read this. This is from his interview that he gave in the New York Times about

when it's legitimate to criticize Israel or not. What he says is anti-Semitic criticism of Israel and of Jews. He says, the one that bothers me the most is genocide. Genocide is described as a country where some group tries to wipe out a whole race of people, a whole nationality of people. So if Israel was not provoked and just invaded Gaza and shot at random Palestinians, Gazans, that would be genocide. That's not what happened.

In fact, the genocide, the opposite happened, and Hamas is much closer to genocidal than Israel. The... take the statements that I just read, put them side by side with anything Hamas has ever fucking released or said. I mean, I can't put it more clearly. This is the defining issue of our time, because the United States has backed to the hilt a... a ethno-supremacist country that has finally found the hack, like the West has finally found the one secret hack to absolving itself from the Holocaust, the

original one, and then being able to figure out how to do a second one without any criticism. This is what it all amounts to. They deport people like Mahmoud Khalil, they try to meet protests in the streets with brute force. They will not countenance a single amount of criticism of their genocide. I mean, I know the self-awareness is just, I mean at this point it's just gone, it's not even gone out the window, It never existed in the first place Actually, I would sometimes I do think do these people know that there's sociopathic Nazis

But you have the Israeli defense minister saying this stuff I mean I hate when fucking like all these politicians all these Dems like all these libs these conservatives they they go on new they go on The news and they go on these interviews and say that Israel is not doing this. And then you have Israeli officials saying the exact opposite. No, this is what we're doing. Yeah. It's just fucking maddening, dude. Yeah, they give cover to it.

That's kind of the whole point. That's the... I think that this is kind of what I'm talking about. Like, the Democrats, people... I listened to that entire fucking David Shore thing. I listened to Chuck Schumer's interview I listened to all their fucking himming and hollering and Internal wrestling about like what are we doing wrong? What are we not getting right? Like how are we not like getting through to people? Um

Well, it's funny because one reason is because in that Chuck Schumer interview He said we're the party of the working people and it's like well everybody Everybody knows you fucking kneecapped Bernie that was the working person's movement So like no one is buying the authentic always buying that shit anymore. Nobody believes that you know It's funny is that when the shit hits the fan they like no no no When the shit hits the fan they like no no no we're we're we're we're we're burning Yeah Yeah Yeah right right right

So the strategy you fought so hard you know you got nothing else left and now you're like oh well we don't know we're that Well and he's a fucking idiot for going along with it like there was something that he signed on He signed on to like a resolution from Graham and Tom Cotton this week or something about Israel Yeah, burning yeah it's so fucked up I mean But but that connects it to my second point which is that This truly is the litmus test. It's the fucking It's the line in the sand that shows where you're at and it's best demonstrated by Mahmood

Khalil's case because if you are not willing to stand up for somebody if you're calling somebody who if you're calling anti-semitic someone who who opposes that who opposed is the widespread elimination and yeah annihilation of an entire people that's anti-semitic being just genocide is anti-semitic like then you've been you've already given them everything that they've wanted I mean I just it's just if you don't have the fucking courage to actually say I am NOT anti-semitic I stand with I stand with solidarity with among black Americans Native Americans Palestinians Jews all across the world if you can't say that Then that's you've already given up your you are a coward you have already granted the forces of brutality and

Saber jury free rein to do whatever the fuck they want across the globe You just yeah, you don't have a spine you have no fucking backbone so it's not that's why people don't buy into your shit about About You know actually standing up for the working man standing up for the common America. No one fucking buys it You're allowing an entire people to be pulverized You know what I mean why the fuck would anyone believe that you give a shit about you know people here in America workers most of all? What just the fucking whining and complaining?

It's just like the that tweet that went around after Israel broke the ceasefire Politico had a headline that said Israel hits Gaza with new airstrikes that kill at least 200. This fucking moron, Martin Varsavsky, at Martin Vars. I am on the board of Axel Springer that owns Politico. I consider this article one-sided Hamas support. It fails to mention that the airstrikes were aimed at eliminating top Hamas military, and that Israel was successful at doing so. It also quotes casualty figures given by Hamas that are not believed to be

Accurate it's like it's not enough or do you fucking yeah exactly it's not It's like sorry It's not enough that they get to fucking murder kids and children in their beds that the entire fucking society and media must bow down And say it was just unnecessary. It's just I can't fucking deal with this anymore. There's so many people that don't even know it that will know they're gonna be immortalized as fucking capos and cowards and everything else in this and there's people you don't even think about you know what I mean. The other thing too that drives me insane is like,

all their claims start from the supposition that the United States and Israel know what's best for everybody. And it's like, like when they're talking about like, Hamas, a group, you know, is designated a terrorist group by the United States. That's awfully fucking rich. I mean, we vaporized two million Iraqis.

That sounds like terrorism to me. You know what I mean? CIA is a terrorist organization. But as is the case, you know, we talked about, you know, the US is we're being sore winners and as such winners get to write the history and make the rules and all that kind of stuff. So we're subjugate. We're like bound by like, you know, in the court of public opinion, whatever these fucking cretins say is like the just and right thing. And you know, if you're not, you know, sober and vigilant about it, you just like go along with it, you know what I mean?

And that's what's so fucking maddening, you know? It's like, but you could even look at this on paper, not knowing anything about it, you know? I see this fucking Rabbi Litvin here in Lexington that all the time is just retweeting and tweeting the most vile shit you can imagine. Everybody in this fucking city loves this cocksucker. And it's just like, I want to just like, just show him like that Netanyahu thing, you know,

that they won't even remember you all this stuff. Address to Gazans. Not even even using the, the Hamaas thing anymore. You know what I mean? Like it just, see like, like, like where does the spirit of God dwell in you if that's what you say you are, like a man of God or whatever? You know what I mean? There's no humanity in you. Nazi ain't got no humanity. Right, right. It's like a one-for-one basically what the Nazis told the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto before they liquidated it.

No one in the world cares for you. No one will take you in. Like you, I mean it's just, this is terror, this is in and of itself is terrorism. You know what I'm saying? Like you're targeting an entire population and they also admit, not only are they admitting war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide right up front. They're also admitting, what did he say in this? Something about Trump's order for expulsion, Trump's compulsory plan, which we will proceed with whether you like it or not, talking about turning Gaza into a resort park. And moving, and what the defense minister said too,

moving people to other parts of the world if they want to this is the definition of ethnic cleansing and they're outright just saying Well, and the thing is is it's also just a lie because they obviously can't come to the United States because if you're a palestinian in the United States Advocating for your own fucking people. They'll just disappear you into an ice facility when you'll just you know I'm saying it's just right across the board I mean I It's it's bleak on a level. I just can't even really fully Articulate other than to say that like If you're trying to build an opposition if you're trying to build an opposition, if you're trying to build an opposition, it is not with Chuck Schumer,

it's not with fucking Hakeem Jeffries or the Abundance Agenda or Ezra Klein. The problem here is not also, which is they tried to fucking drill down on this and that Ezra Klein thing, like, oh, we focused more on institutions when people, about the threat to democratic institutions rather than like cost of living things, which people care about of Course they care about that fucking bizarre that you actually had to like go through a whole you know psychometric Statistical analysis that's cool that is to go lyrical miracle spiritual Individual swimming pool It's weird to the other go through all that to figure it out, but this is part of the problem

You see no one sees you as authentic You are not authentic like your fucking weird. You're about to hope us They are their topas They're just these weird automatons that like response and you see this with their reliance on statistics and psychometrics and all this shit Like that's not how politics works. You can't carve off like a 3.57% demographic of whatever. They, you know what I realized? They, I mean, I've said this,

we say this before about the Democratic Party, but they hate people, right? Yeah. So in order, they hate people and they look at people as like, you know, like, I don't know, bacterial culture, like in a Petri dish, right?'t know bacterial culture like an impetri dish right you know what I mean that they can fuck around with and for them to actually like them actually speak to people they would have to like people

right they would have to to actually give off any sincerity you would actually have to go to the ground level at least actually understand what people want you know but it's more about validating your own fucked up worldview than it is helping anyone else right? Seeing them as another fucking human being and I've noticed that like Bashir and Tim Walz are the two Democrat in my opinion the two like foremost Democrat figures who have named that and are trying to actually like You know approach it or address it the problem with that is that they too have bought the line that it is necessary and just for the Palestinian population to be exterminated.

And once again, that is not a winning message to anybody. I'm sorry. Even if, even in this country with its 70 fucking years of propaganda About how Israel must continue to exist about how it's anti-semitic to Kermit's criticized them even a little bit Most people are very fucking turned off when you say but we must at the same time ethnically cleanse in genocide Five to six million people in the Gaza Strip and then start giving them all these weird fucking I mean dude What was that fucking tweet? I had quoted yesterday Aaron. I know you saw it. It was like that woman that was like um Oh

Hamas that said that said what did she say she said Hamas has even recruited the newest of the newest younger Yeah, the newest of babies like that must basically saying like we must kill even the new This is a much let like lower stakes example, okay but you know as we've talked about the show for Terrence and I were involved in this anti-prison fight for a number of years back home and and and recently for the first time in a long time I attended one of those meetings just to kind of see where things were at and Like on these government documents, like when people pass out,

there's just such patently ridiculous things in them. Like one thing they were talking about is like, you know, cause they think nobody reads this shit. Right. But they were talking about like transportation of people that got hired to work at this proposed prison. And they were talking about how like, there's like five pages about how like

Bicycling to work is gonna be an option even if you live an hour and a half away from this side But there's just like patently stupid shit that people say Just to like home to the bars and like get a document out You know what I mean like and that's what that reminded me of when you said that like the newest of babies It sounds like you're trying to make the word count on a term paper You know yeah, but if you were like working for the Nazi like third- Yeah, you're writing a page of Mein Kampf based- If you were working for Satan Incorporated, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hitting the word count on Mein Kampf, right, yeah.

I'm just like, I just have to reiterate to people, what sort of individual condemns babies, right? I mean like, like what, really what kind of person condemns babies, right? I mean, like, really, what kind of person condemns babies to death? These people are not human, man. These people are not human. Well, if you're a believer in the Bible that says it's better that a millstone be tied around your neck and you be cast into the ocean than to hurt one. So that's a pretty stark warning.

I'm sorry, I don't wanna be accused of being a Christian podcast as we are now, so. But. I just, the tweet itself, just to clarify, there are no civilians in Gaza. Hamas has drafted everyone down to the newest babies into the war effort and they rejoice when the children they shove into The line of fire died because it's their most powerful weapon against those they hate more than life and blood

That is a statement that the entire political apparatus the entire political institution the political class Democrats and Republicans are united in Preserving and you can't criticize it or you will be disappeared. And I'm sorry, even the most like lukewarm, you know, we must do an arms embargo on Israel from like Bernie or whoever. Not gonna fucking cut it. Tassily supports that same shit. Yeah, you, you, not gonna fucking cut it, man. No, it needs to be, no, it needs to be dissolved, man.

It needs to be dissolved because this gets at the basis of what Zionism is taken to its full logical endpoint and You we you need leaders and you need people who are brave enough and courageous enough To stand out there and say like look. This is what we have more hitched our national soul to But you know what I'm saying. It's more than just political economy, even though that's it. Like Israel's like our 20th largest trade partner.

So much of our Silicon Valley tech innovations and political economy is woven into theirs. We send them billions of dollars in weapons. They are our aircraft carrier in the Middle East, right? Like they're woven in, but even at a sort of spiritual level, we have hitched our fucking soul to this. And what do you think that does over a long amount of time to our souls, right? Like that fucking starts to eat away at it and people are wondering, what's happening to America? What's it like? This is it. We're sponsoring another fucking fourth Reich in the goddamn

It just it just you just got to ask yourself like what kind of world and future do I want to live in? Do I want my children to grow up in you know for all of those kids man the pictures? I mean again. I'm saying dead children on my timeline I mean children that it could have been anything you know they could have had full beautiful wonderful lives You know been fully realized human beings But instead they're being fucking slaughtered and we are anchoring ourselves to that So that's you have to ask yourself what kind of what kind of country is this? Yo, what kind of world is this?

What kind of future are we gonna live in where we liquidate millions of people and then you can be disappeared for it Or you can be told by the Democrats. Well, you have the right to say I'll defend your right to say whatever you want But okay, you can say that The liquidation they love to say that of course agree with the liquidation. Yeah, exactly. That's why you said you said that I can you can Support my right to say the liquidation not do the liquidation Yeah, you can do something about doing the liquidation. But yeah, maybe the first amendment stops you from doing something about you know saying the thing This is just the thing it's just because

It's a terrifying time. I mean dude the amount of like Unconstitutional things that the Trump administration has done in the last several months is like bro every day The um that the Trump administration has done in the last several months is like. Bro, every day is, every day is something new. The, um, obviously like, renditioning people without due process, right? Clamping down on first amendment expression. The impoundment thing, basically taking over the power of the purse from Congress, huge, that is massively unconstitutional.

USAID, I think that multiple judges this week have been saying it was unconstitutional because it gets into who's a government employee and who's a political appointee. And you can't just fire large swaths of the government administrative state. And Tom and I were talking about this yesterday, like something I've wondered about since 2016 is like,

is there a deep state of like, basically, yeah, like someone who would emerge and say like, a deep occluded state that would emerge as a kind of referee calling balls and strikes and being like, all right, you can't like do this. The parliamentarian? Yeah, the parliamentarian. Like the parliamentarian.

But I think this answers my question, no. And there's no one coming to save you. And so I'm addressing this to the liberals who are fed up with Schumer, it's obvious. They're obviously fed up with their very feckless. They're yelling at him at the town hall. He had to cancel the band. They're mad.

Feckless they're yelling at him at the town hall. Yeah cancel. Yeah, they're mad my my my address to you is that I Guess this is kind of what it comes down to it's like you want someone who's authentic who can like Articulate an opposition to this who can like call it out for what it is You're gonna have to fucking accept that it is not okay to do genocide. You're gonna have to accept, you're gonna have to find somebody who can actually be courageous about this and be able to criticize it with, and also be able to take these charges of anti-Semitism, which are completely spurious and false, and basically let them glide off their back, like water off a duck's back, because it it's it is false like we're not

Antisemites like literally it is you're not anti-semitic to criticize Israel You're not even anti-semitic to say Israel shouldn't exist Zionism is a poison it fucking it's a political philosophy It's not a religious Like in this thing like Schumer's this thing Schumer says I grew up in the golden age of Jews I grew up for the golden age for Jews We didn't have to deal with anti-semitism anymore, and then after October 7th it all came crashing down, brother Your fucking gripe is with Israel your gripe is with the Zionist state. It's not fucking. It's not with anybody else Yeah

I'm sorry. I know yeah No, no good. I'm sorry, I did. Yeah. No, no, no, go ahead. Hey, I tell anybody in public, don't be afraid. What's worse than score a day? Like, hit you with some Krav Maga or something? Krav Maga. It's a pussy ass discipline anyway. You ever see, I love seeing UFC fighters,

they're like, oh, he's got a background, Krav Maga. You know that guy's gonna get choked out by a Dagestani in like five seconds. Blank. I just want to point out, Terrence,ds you betcha dog because I thought this was interesting and uh weren't there weren't there white Europeans Who got like held and like sent to ICE detention centers or something like that like coming to the United States? Do you remember hearing about dude there?

Um a French researcher was deported because she had Stuff or he I can't remember the He I think yeah, he had stuff on his phone that was criticizing Trump Kicking out when you're kicking out Western white Europeans It's like what you said last time like this is late Nazi Germany sort of like where everybody's on meth and they they're like, well who's arid enough, right? And they just turn on each other. You turn and on the people that,

I'm not even talking about like, you know, like the Polish, right, or the, well I guess, but not on some early 20th century shit, you know what I mean? Like we were like, oh we don't want those people to come. I mean, you're talking about like these countries that you talk about this sort of, this Eurocentric, like Euro kind of centric, American centric model, you know? And these countries that we you talk about this sort of this Euro centric like Euro kind of centric America centric model

You know and these countries that we should partnership with and these people are getting sent back along with black and brown people. That's insane You know an act Canadian actress was disappeared into the ice system for like two or three weeks and couldn't like Every time she would try to talk to somebody she would just get like spread your fucking cheeks get across the wall I don't know your case. Shut the fuck up. Just like shit like that, dude And there was people and there was um I saw John Favreau tweeted that story out And it's like in the story it says she I mean that's a very well written piece It's in the Guardian. I think everybody should go read it in the story She's like yeah, I encountered people in there who had had my experience who had been in there for almost a year

It's like oh, I wonder who the fucking president was a year ago Fucking moron who the fuck has been doing all this and laying the groundwork and serving us up on a fucking platter Yeah Whatever retirement home he's in somebody go put a pillow over his face somebody gets fucked Trump Trump probably give you a presidential medal of freedom for doing it I Just the thing is my buddy works for HUD and he was talking to me about how a lot of his co-workers are like They supported Schumer's a version of a government shutdown because their thing was like well

If they shut the government down they're to use that as pretense to just never bring it back online right like to never bring it back and it's like well they're already doing that and and the thing is and I can't even really I this is my plea to everybody you have to seriously you have to get serious. Like I'm sorry, like we can't fucking just keep this like fear mindset. It's really what it is. I hear something like that and that's fear.

And part of it is because they've never had anybody who actually stands up for them or who represents any kind of like opposition. You know what I'm saying? Like we don't, we look around and we're like, who's on our side? Who's looking out for us? Fucking Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer like Ezra Klein

The big three baby. Yeah, I mean they're just yes men. Yeah, that's all it is Yeah, you have to that to me shows a void for an opposition that could actually stand up for people, but it has to be on the axis of free Palestine, you know, universal healthcare. Weren't there Republicans at some speaking engagement from, I don't know who, weren't they shouting tax the rich? You know, like just the fact that people now are like really really pissed off and you if you were like an actual opposition party you could opportunize that you know

And you could channel that but when you hate people and you don't really like conflict unless it means punching left and Saying that you ostensibly agree with people right who are anti-genocide But really you're just kind of just going along with it, then I don't know man Yeah, I think people got to get, man. This is fucking serious shit. This is not good. You can't wait for the courts to save and all that kind of stuff. I was listening to the radio this morning. I just came across Amy Goodman and Steve Donsiger on there and they had this clip of Trump talking

about trying to, I don't know if it was like trying to pass some new thing or something about like basically the press's freedom to like go after corporations and like wealthy people and all this stuff. It's like something that came up about in the 70s or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it was. But Trump's on there and they're like really pushing to like basically make the law of the land what Jeff Bezos decided the Washington Post was going to be a couple weeks ago. Basically, we're only gonna run opinions that support capitalism and whatever.

And Trump's on there, he goes, I don't know how it's legal. It's probably not legal. I don't know, I just don't understand how it could be legal. It's so funny, that's how hollowed out things are. It's like, you got the President of the like that's how hollowed out things are that's like you got the president United States said that like no newspapers shouldn't be allowed to like

uncover corporations and wealthy people's bad doings Well it gets it like the his political base, which is basically like small business owners It's like that's what the tea party was the tea party one man They're all small agreed small business owners who lost relative Not absolute value in the 2008 financial crisis And they articulated a class grievance and demand and now that they've got it they got trumps and now we're entering basically seemingly never-ending recession Yeah, you know

over it Just want to say that seems and now what you're describing Terrence seems very analogous to never-ending recession, you know, over it. Just want to say, that seems, what you're describing, Taron, seems very analogous to 1930s Germany. Dude, I mean, well, right. I mean, Tom were talking about that yesterday. The millennial generation is a lost generation.

True. Like, none of our demands or dreams or any ambition, they all just swallowed up. Gone. Now I'm going to be tortured to death by something called Doge. Like, I told Tom- You're gonna meet your end by an epic meme. I told Tom yesterday, it would be an honor to be tortured to death by like some Central American death squad as opposed to something called fucking Doge. Doge, brother.

Truly insult to injury All right, we're over in an hour, but I just wanted to read this thing really quick This is a little bit of a palate cleanser, but after everything I've seen from like the authoritarian It's an authoritarian regime guys like it's authoritarian regime guys like it's everything yeah that's your keep it scored home everything the liberals said it would be

it is but now they're kind of just yeah but they also allowed it to happen right right like fuck you because it takes care of a lot of problems for them right right I'm saying like it takes care of a lot of problems they would just rather not for example the Palestinians right like that's kind of why they've been tulpas for over a year like they're just under like our

philosophical premises say we shouldn't support genocide but fuck we'll just let Trump win he'll finish it off for us and then we can just you know you know and then we our hands are quote clean yeah it's kind of hilarious that in order just to not set a precedent like they could have just buried Trump under the jail and buried state you know there's people serving like you know 40-year sentences for soft drug crimes but you couldn't find enough on Steve Bannon to lock him up and throw away the key you couldn't find enough on Trump to lock his ass up and throw away the key that's like this they're scared of exercising any power, man.

Nah, I think they need, like, listen, I'm a prison abolitionist, but I honestly think that like, those two should be bound like the dragon in Revelation and cast into a lake of fire. I don't think it's enough just to put them in tennis jail, you know what I mean? Where all the other rich people and deposed former heads of state go yeah Well I wanted to read this I wanted to read this I think it's kind of interesting this is in the New York Times Trump had apt quote aptitude for music as a child he told During during during during this this this article furthers bolsters my thesis

that we do live inside this man's dream we live inside we are like the man who dreams and then lives inside the dream but who is the dreamer the dreamer Donald Trump yeah um during his first visit to kit to the Kennedy Center since making And then lives inside the dream, but who is the dreamer the dreamer Donald Trump? During his first visit to kit to the Kennedy Center since making himself the chairman of its board He made himself chairman of the Kennedy Center board President Trump had a lot to say about Broadway shows dancers and silk tights the Potomac River and Elvis Presley But in a private discussion at the start of a meeting of the Center's board on Monday Mr. Trump offered something he usually stares away from in bigger settings, a personal anecdote about his childhood.

He told the assembled board members that in his youth he had shown special abilities in music after taking aptitude tests ordered by his parents, according to three participants in the meeting. He could pick out notes on the piano, he told the board members, some of whom he's known for years and others who are relatively new to him. But the president said that his father, Fred Trump, was not pleased by his musical abilities, according to the participants, and that he had never developed his talent. He definitely called him gay. For lacking piano or whatever. I have a high aptitude for music, he said at point according to people at the meeting can you believe that? That's why I love music

This is like Hitler with painting yo if he was just more appreciated Yeah, well that's what I was thinking is like in another universe Trump could have like you know come up with an award-winning Medley of show tunes, but we got this instead Yeah, put a jazz pianist into the universe,, but yeah, they just let hit learn art school You know we'd have saved saved us all a lot of grief Mr.. Trump is good now you go no I was just asking is it just well you probably get a read Is it just the piano because when you say musical aptitude you can't just say the piano has to be has to be a variety Of musical instruments like horns perhaps you know maybe he could play the harp the bassoon

the cello Mr. Trump's remarks have not been previously reported they were they were part of not part of an audio recording of the board meeting obtained by The New York Times, but they are a story He has told in private according to a person with knowledge of the comments about a period in his life before his parents sent him To the New York Military Academy at the age of 13. The anecdote came as a surprise to some of the people in the room. The country singer Lee Greenwood, known for God Bless America or God Bless the USA, confirmed in an interview that Mr. Trump had made a point of highlighting his childhood connection

to music at the meeting on Monday. Mr. Greenwood, who was appointed to the Kennedy Center's board by Mr. Trump, has produced a version of the Bible with the President. He said that the two had discussed the President's abilities before. He's absolutely very creative and very artistic, Mr. Greenwood said.

I do not doubt he has a great ear for music. Wait, they, Lee Greenwood Trump have a translation of the Bible? Yes, they, I thought, yeah, I thought we had talked about Hey, Lee Greenwood Trump have a translation of the Bible. Yes, I thought, yeah, I thought we had talked about this before, but if not, yes, they released their own version of the Bible in their campaign last year. It was like part of Trump's campaign last year. So Trump is reading the Bible, it's like audiobooks and shit?

The man that called it 2 Corinthians has a translation of the scriptures. That's promising. Two Corinthians has a translation of the scriptures Asked about the antidote Stephen Chung the White House communications director did not directly address it But said that the president quote is a virtuoso and his choices represent a brilliant palette of vibrant colors when others often paint in pale pastels as you know What I will say though? I will say that Trump does like he has like a little bit of um He's in tune with rhythm cuz when that YMCA song was playing at that water rally last year and the way he was like

Bop it. I was like alright brother man. You could follow a tune man. So maybe maybe I could believe it He can't move those hips, but he's got the He's got the old man dance, you know, dancing in the corner. This is like when, you know how, and I'm not saying this to disparage the North Koreans, but I'm just gonna tell you just that there is zero chance that Kim Jong-un hit 11 holes in one on his first time ever playing golf.

This is like kind of like a more mild version of that kind of propaganda, you know? Right, right, right. You're right. It's definitely a more whimsical version. Yeah. I wonder what led him to tell, I wonder what leads him, like is he in moments of like, kind of like,

not that this man experiences regret. I don't think he's self-aware enough in that sense, of his own mortality and possibly any personal failings to elicit any regret. But I wonder what makes him tell the story sometimes. Maybe if he's just staring out wistfully over everybody's heads. The reverie, yeah.

He's like, well. Getting reverie into this mist of the past and wondering what could have been as much as his mind is able to do so. Well, it's he's nearing the end of his life and as a result, it's like replaying all right like it's like all of the missed and lost connections all of the could have beens and what ifs and

How is my life turned out this way? What ifs and how is my life turned out this way? It's like his favorite song is that Peggy Lee song, which I love that song. Is this all there is? Or is that all there is? Which is about like- It's tailing. Yeah, which is about like a girl,

like her father dying in a fire and like, you know what I'm saying? Like wrestling with mortality and all this. I think that's, I can't remember the exact lyrics, but. As the president and Kennedy Center chair Mr. Chung said there is nobody more qualified, uniquely qualified to bring this country and its rich history of the arts back to prominence. Mr. Trump has long shown an interest in music and theater and he once dreamed of becoming a Broadway producer at the meeting This man missed the opportunity lifetime to be gay

Trump doing big Bethesda shit hamlet son like his back He loves like Phantom of the Opera and like Steven Lloyd Webber and shit like that. It's really funny It makes so much sense now why he saw he sees I Think he sees a part of himself in JD Vance. You know what I'm saying like this Aggrieved outsider upstart who had a talent but was like skipped over for various reasons And wanted to express parts of himself like I do genuinely believe JD Vance's if not fully gay then definitely bisexual like Just just because of that anecdote in the book where he's like am I gay it's like If you question them tell you something brother if you question that ever at any point in your life ever the answer is probably Yes, well listen. Oh at least you're not a Kinsey zero

Listen, at least you're not a Kinsey Zero. Exactly, that's the catch. You're on some sort of spectrum. At the meeting on Monday, he polled board members on which was better, Phantom of the Opera or Les Mis. He reminisced about attending the premiere of Andrew Lloyd Webber's Cats in the early 80s. He spoke of his love for singers like the Broadway star Betty Beckley Like hello dolly and Fiddler on the roof so many great shows. He said at one point so many great shows Mr. Trump moved to oust the Kennedy Center's previous board chairman the financier Davidenstein, and all the board members appointed by Biden. He told allies for weeks that he wanted to lead the Kennedy Center, which he has occasionally incorrectly referred to as the Lincoln Center, the premiere arts venue in his hometown, New York City. Mr. Trump disparaged the current hit musical Hamilton

as he toured the center on Monday. producers Cancelled a planned tour of the Kennedy Center next year to protest his takeover of the institution which had been bipartisan for decades The Kennedy Center has hosted and bestowed honors and performers who have been critical of mr. Trump's behavior as president Mr. Trump's desire to influence programming at one of the leading u.s. art centers has not surprised some of his longest-serving aides. Mr. Trump spends hours working on the playlist for his rallies and blasting music on an iPad at his clubs as he personally acts as a disc jockey. Some artists have repeatedly asked him to stop using their music. Don't give Trump the aux cord During his first term mr Trump's advisors often found that music was a way to calm him when he was furious on his airplane

On his airplanes his private one known as Trump force one and on the presidential plane Air Force one Mr.. Trump often blasts the music so loud that it pulses through the cabin During a campaign tall town hall event in Pennsylvania in October after two attendees required medical attention Mr.. Trump stunned some of his aides by pausing the event and having his team play music for more than half an hour Mr.. Trump stood on stage swaying and dancing as the music played Yo, dude for some reason I just thought of Jack Kerouac's on the road When many of many parties that they will s boroughs and a lot kind of throws They're all drinking and doing drugs and being sweaty and dancing and shit like that

it reminds me of them The judge in blood meridian they say he's always dancing During a late-day meeting with AIDS going over his playlist in the first term Mr. Trump had the group go through Spotify looking for songs from Tommy the who's rock opera for more than an hour in search of a specific song that he thought he remembered. The Aids couldn't find it. So Trump had like a Mandela effect memory of an of a Who song from that musical. And the Aids couldn't find it. He just gets more and more belligerent. And the Aids know that this is bullshit

But I mean what he asked you to do something because you have to fucking do it Yeah, oh my god, dude This is amusing man, cuz it's like, you know, I always thought that he should have went into um, you know Like comedy, you know should have leaned more into reality TV, you know He could have had like 20 seasons of The Apprentice But really his true calling was the arts, music and a theater especially. Well right.

This is the surest argument. I'm sorry, Tansil. No, you go ahead. I just said this is the sure, you know, if we look at the grander arc of history and we think of Hitler and now Trump, so this is the surest argument against STEM and pumping, I mean barrels of cash into now Trump. So this is the surest argument against STEM and pumping, I mean, barrels of cash into the arts.

I mean, any kid with a modicum of talent needs to be fully embraced and funded. Just because the alternative is so dire. You're right, you're right, Tom. Anybody with even remote interest in it, it's like you're good. Yeah, see them to Julie hard fuck Like he thinks he's lived a false life right like Everything in his life is trying to now bridge the chasm between his true self and his false self And that's why we live in his dream like this is very Jungian

it's very Twin Peaks lynch in like we live in his dream like this is very Jungian It's very Twin Peaks lynching like we live inside the dream and his true self Wants to go out of the lodge, but his false self has to come in first before the true self can go We're living in the failure of his dreams. That's what we are we are and all of America's dreams in a way he is the he is the embodiment of The death of a specific type of American dream That contains dialectically like the death of it for like small entrepreneurs and like yeoman I mean how that's never possible And then the like restless spiritual void

of the billionaire lump and billionaire who is also, you know, got everything he ever wanted and it's still not enough. That's what he kind of like solidifies in his person. It's a very dark and bleak thing, honestly. And I don't know, it's just very dark and bleak thing honestly and and I don't know it's just what comes after that I guess more of the same JD Vance I mean I Tom Tom did point out yesterday Steve Bannon is talking about a third Trump term already

they're talking about seeing how to run him for 2028 so I mean good they I mean they could do that just legally right like he could just run again. He can run for a second term I Don't know I mean is it technically because yeah, I mean you can't I guess you can't serve more I mean, I don't fucking know you can't serve obviously more than two consecutive terms But like he you can't serve to you can't serve two turn more than two terms period exactly Yeah, but he technically his last term was like term was like four years ago, you know? So. I mean, they have shown that they don't care

about anything constitutional already. Like, if they're talking about ending birthright citizenship, that is just literally 10 feet away from saying, anybody who has family here stretching back generations is also not a citizen. Basically at this point I think they're working toward a version of citizenship that's like you must pledge undying fealty to Israel. And Donald Trump. That's going to be the citizenship test. Oh my god. This guy might be the president after he's dead they might just upload his consciousness into like a Skynet type situation and like Running again and again and again and again

Run with the jet make him like a jet chat GPT. Well. I think that's yeah I think it's why Don jr. Wanted JD Vance so badly like I think that the two of them kind of complete They form a complete like kind of virtuous circle of what like a simulator of Trump would be is even more grotesque than the original but like they needed like the full-blown fash to like kind of complete it and break with the You know Republican GOP as usual thing that Trump won was the first Trump administration was They should they should put them they should each step into that a teleportation transport device from the from the fly Where Jeff Goldblum slowly becomes more Trump? Yeah, it just become exactly

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