Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 386: Best Laid Plans

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

This week Tom and Aaron discuss Kristi Noem's propaganda video violating the 4th Geneva Convention, the signal Yemen invasion scandal, remote viewing, and the state of art Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Music Welcome everybody to your weekly freebie trailbillies episode. We are, as is sometimes the case, one sandwich short of a three-man picnic. Terrence is going to be out today, so I'm going to try probably futile to fill his unfillable shoes. But joining me is my other partner in crime, Mr. Aaron Thorpe. Aaron, what's going on today? Chilling, man. Chilling. Aaron Thorpe, Aaron, what's going on today? Chillin' man, chillin'.

I know we got a few things to talk about, but one thing that's been pissin' me off is that the whole Studio Ghibli Miyazaki AI art thing, man, is just very damaging to my soul, brother. What's going on with that? And why is it damaging to your soul? I mean, I think I can hazard a guess but I want to hear from the horse's mouth. Well man I think OpenAI just released I don't know a new model I guess

where you can generate you know Miyazaki's Studio Ghibli's art you know and I mean people have talked about it so much but just the fact fact that I sit in my backyard or in my house every day and I try to write. The fact that these motherfuckers are skipping that process entirely, that creative process, it's just like you never had that dog in you, man. You just want to... It's like, how can I put it? I think somebody had replied to me and said, it's like getting instant ramen man you know you you just want to it's like how can I put it I think somebody had replied to me and said it's like an instant ramen you know what I mean which I eat instant ramen sure instead of the joy of you know not even

just making the noodles or buying the raw noodles you know putting the ingredients in it you know what I mean like it's in the process brother the process is what matters so uh anyone who does that shit man, uh, I don't know maybe maybe uh, No, no, man. You didn't have that dog in you. Maybe find uh, maybe listen to your inner creative self, you know man, I this is gonna sound like a very kooky example, but like I feel like You know at one time I thought I was gonna be a burgeoning hip hop producer. Really? Hold on, hold on.

Really? What? You gotta break that down a little bit. What? I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this just in confidence. You and thousands of others I guess apparently. But I thought at one time I was gonna be the great white hope.

I did. I even had a lane carved out for me which later on became Jack Harlow's lane and thank God it did because he wears it better than I ever could. But I was like man I'm gonna be like the first white rapper from the south that's not like you know not picking sort of a country bumpkin lane. I mean there's nothing wrong with that I mean I would defend Bubba Sparks. I was just thinking of Bubba Sparks. I don't like his Like his recent output, but I think Deliverance is a good album. I think he had some good records there You know, but I thought like this is gonna be my my thing and it just was like so many things

I've tried in life. It was just not to be but I Thought well a good B plan would be to be a producer and I served that role for a rap group briefly for a time I you know I made beats and I've learned how to kind of like construct drum patterns and like you know make samples and like fruity loops and stuff like that and then like now it's like There's just like you could just like buy like already established producers like sound kits. You know exactly It's like you could just like make a beat basically just like just taking stacking some loops and some drums on it

And there you go. There's right. You know what I mean, right? It's like that's not quite as egregious as what we're what we're talking about here, but it does like That I don't want to sound snobbish about it either because it's like, you know I mean there's certainly there's probably been some some boppers made that way too that I'm just not privy to however, they're the process is being extracted from art and Increasingly other things, you know, I think about the great Andre Agassi, the tennis player, and his absolutely insane memoir, Open, where he talks about wearing a hair piece

when he was going bald and like doing meth and all this kind of crazy shit while he was a pro athlete. But one part that like sticks out to me is that like, he was like, you know, a prodigy, number one in the world, all this stuff, and he had fallen out of the top 100 after kind of a relationship that had soured and all this stuff.

And later on, he climbed back after 30, which at that time was ancient in tennis years. It's not so ancient in tennis years now because a lot of people play well into their 30s because of where sports medicine is and the technology, the frame, a lot of people play well into their 30s because of where sports medicine is and the technology, the frame, a lot of stuff. But to get back in shape to become number one in the world after 30,

he would go and run the Sierra Madres near his home in Las Vegas until he threw up. And he famously worked with the UNLV football team to get on his strength training training and at 5'11 and 172 pounds could bench press 430 pounds. Which is like, anybody that knows anything about weightlifting is like, that is highly improbable. You know what I mean?

And yet, he could do it. And he said something to me in the book that was, not to me, but in the book. He was like, he came back and he won a couple of Australian opens he won the US open he won the French open all after that period and He said to him what mattered wasn't really like winning all those championships It's like the memories that stick with him is running those mountains until he would throw up. Yeah, it's the pursuit brother that stick with him is running those mountains until he would throw up. Yeah, it's the pursuit, brother.

It's the pursuit, man. And the people that showed up for him while he tried to get back to where he knew he could be. Right, right. Well, the thing about the Fruity Lou's example, man, is that there are tools that you can use as an artist, especially with emerging technologies in the arts. But, and all art is derivative.

They say that's the thing, man, is that people will say that like, well, isn't all art derivative? Because now there are questions of like, should Studio Ghibli like sue open AI, right? Based on copyright law. And first of all, there are protections, right? A bevy of protections for copyright law, for plagiarism and all of this,

but it's a difference between all art being derivative and the fact that this hey-i shit is based on this dragnet of previously created works, where again, like you said, there's no process in that. The process and the pursuit is to me, the most enjoyable part of being a writer, right? Or an artist for anyone. The fact that you could envision something in your mind

and say, I'm going to create it. When you take all of that out, man, it's just, it's not rewarding anymore. It's instant gratification to the point where, I mean, as Terrence says, man, we live in this fee-brow culture, because of the profit motive, because Terrence says, man, we live in this feebrow culture, you know, because of the profit motive, you know, because of political economy, where people not even don't have the time to enjoy things anymore, right, or to enjoy artistic endeavors, but they immediately

want the end result, you know, in a way that hollows it out and makes it feel so soulless that it makes me see fucking red, seeing people that I respect, like, generating this shit, you know? Like, have you ever fucking watched the Studio Ghibli film, man? Have you ever seen the expressions on the faces? I know people will say, all his faces look the same, but the expressions on the faces, man, capture like this indelible quality, right,

about human nature, you know? That machine has never experienced and can never experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally man. And I think, you know, the other thing too, I think, is I saw Boringstein on Twitter say this and I thought it was, I kind of agreed with him. It was like somebody had taken the characters

from Severance and made like several different iterations of like, based on different animation styles, including the Studio Ghibli one. He had remarked on it. He said, y'all just want Funko Pops. Yeah, exactly. Which I think is kind of a good way to put that.

It's like, yeah, they just want like, I don't know, man. You and I have trafficked in the Hot Beast stuff at various points in our life and stuff like that. And I remember like when everybody had the cause, like little like Sesame Street characters and everything like that. It's like there is a certain point where like what might have started off as like a serious artistic endeavor kind of becomes a meme. And through no, really no fault of like the artists on you know what I mean? It's just like you just kind of have to like just hope you don't get some annoying fans or some bad fans you know and also hope that like some you know famous you know musicians don't also kit their entire house out in your stuff. Exactly.

Well, dude, it's, it becomes like to this, this like level of like meta where it's not even just a commentary on the art itself, but it's trying to reproduce it. You know what I mean? Like reproduce it in a style that is like consumable, I guess. I mean, cause that's essentially what it is, man. It's about consumption, you know, and it's no longer about like, well, what is, I mean, this is a whole philosophical question, man, but like, what is the nature of art? You know, for me, it's like to tell the truth and to capture some facet of the human condition. But when you like kind of

erase all of that, all you get is a product. That's just meant for consumption to give you these empty temporary pleasures that, I don't know, man, I think even Miyazaki himself said, I forget his exact quote, man, but this is the death of life itself. It's soul crushing, man. When I see those pictures, I don't like the shit that I've been seeing on my timeline. I'm not like, that's cool. Like I think about the fact that like,

oh, you're just trying to reproduce something that somebody made that was backed by feeling and experience. You know? I don't know, man. It's a cheat sheet to the soul, man. You know what I mean? It's really much like that. Yeah, no, totally, man.

Totally, you know? My friend? Yeah, totally, man, totally. My friend, the comedian Billy Wayne Davis, told me one time, he's like, you can do art or you can do commerce. Yeah, yeah. But you gotta pick a lane. And that stuck with me because it's like, I can sometimes see even the art and the value

in some of the more saccharine, clearly market driven stuff. You know what I mean? I'll give you an example. I think Thor Ragnarok is a good movie, even though like Tako Atiti is not, you know. Yeah. In the grand constellation of Marvel films, I think that's a good, a standout.

You know what I mean? Or Guardians of the Galaxy, at least, because at least there's a vision to it, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So there are kind of, right? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah so there are like kind of You know some exceptions, you know, I mean and that but like the other part I think to it is like You know famously like Hollywood faces some troubles with like, you know, you can't get like mid-budget films Like really made anymore. It's like the only things that get made are sort of like,

you know, the Indies like, you know, or like really like studio films masquerading as Indies, like, you know, the 824 and the type of stuff. Or on the opposite end of that, you know, big spectacle, you know, Marvel IP movies, essentially. And it's kind of sad. IP movies, essentially. And it's kind of sad. It's like there's no sort of like, you know,

like every time you see something that kind of is like in that rare era of that like sort of mid budget thriller or whatever it is, you know what I mean? Like you're kind of like, oh, that feels nice. It feels like, you know what I mean? And it's just like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm not an expert about how films are made or anything like that, and I hope that,

or how the current studio system works rather. But I think that like, it's just kind of sad that like, it's basically established that like, if you're lucky enough to like sell a pitch and bring a show to a streamer or something, they basically give you two seasons unless it's an absolute runaway hit. Right, right. Bro, it's like the Russo Brothers adapting Electric State.

And I can't remember or even pronounce, honestly, the original author's name because it's based on not a graphic novel, but it's like an illustrative novel. So it's like these amazing pictures of a dystopian alternate 1990s. I mean, people should look up some of the original art because it is so evocative in how empty, like how he encapsulates these kind of empty landscapes that are desolate, right? But the Russo brothers, I think Netflix gave them what, $300 million, yo, to adapt this

shit? And I tried- Is that what it was? Bro, yeah, dog. It's- And like David Lynch couldn't get his deal done? Yo, or fucking Coppola, yo, with fucking Megalopolis, right? Which I heard was not good, but still though, just the fact that they're just ready and

willing to give money to, honestly, hacks. People who are creating, I don't know, the visual equivalence of MSG, dawg, you know what I'm saying? Something that's just filling But it's not something that actually satisfies you and yeah I tried to watch the adaptation on Netflix electric state and the whole like and I mean I couldn't even get through the first 30 minutes man, but just based on the art that I saw I was just like dude you just completely just

Like sapped away any humanity right or any, any of the existentialism out of the original adaptation because I guess they just thought it was a cool concept, you know, or maybe they saw some of the art and thought it looked cool without really trying to like, you know, settle with like, okay, what does this mean though, you know, and how does this make people feel instead of being like, well, like people are going to watch this and it'll be, it'll be on the top one trending on Netflix for like a couple of weeks. You know what I mean? Which is a measure of success rather than any critical acclaim, you know? Yeah, no, totally man. And you know, I was thinking like, cause this was going

around. Yeah, that is depressing as hell. I was, you know, I've, I'll, I, as this was going around, yeah, that is depressing as hell. I was, you know, I've, well, I'll tease this here because like this is like I've cobbled some money together and some friends and I were gonna try our hand at a indie horror film. And we've got some like horror comedy, I should say. I don't wanna tease it as like I'm making something that dark and sinister, but it is a little dark and sinister.

But like kind of what I've like sort of like. Like the thing that gives me pause about it all is like I was talking to a friend of the show who was telling me that like, guys like John Sells are having a hard time getting stuff made these days. And I'm thinking like, Jesus Christ, man, if John Sells can't get something made. Like, what chance do you fucking get?

Like, what hope do I have? Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's like, that's sort of like, it's not the most, it's like kind of an exciting time for that, I mean, you know, but also to, you know, it's like kind of a very uncertain time at the same time, which I guess maybe, you know, coincides and goes hand in hand.

To your point, what you're talking about, I saw something going around on Twitter, I guess earlier today, and it was like, and it's true, it's like, they were talking about like the rave scene from Strange Days, James Cameron, Catherine Bigelow, movie and they got like Apex twin to actually throw a rave and like in Times Square I think and like all these people like it was like an actual like shot you know what I mean? An actual like what was going on you know what I mean? And it's

like now we would just green screen that and like, or CGI it or something like that. You know what I mean? To like cut quarters. Have a few extras and then just, yeah, exactly. CGI the rest of the crowd, right? Yeah, and that's like, that is like that difference between art and commerce.

It's just like everything just has to get out expediently and in the most like cost efficient, like whatever way, which I'm not opposed to like cost efficiency, particularly, you know, but like also it's like at the cost of like being emotive and like, actually getting a, you know, a real snapshot of what that would be like. It just, it seems so hollow.

And that, and it's just, it's just the depressing thing and sort of atomizing thing about life now is that like, everything is like that. Exactly. Exactly. Do you know what I mean? Exactly. Everything is like that from sports to what?

Like everything is just qualitatively a little bit worse than it used to be. And that is not, I refuse to let that be like a get off my lawn old man statement. I don't think that is true. I think there's something going on that is market driven, that is making things that way. I don't think it's like, oh, well in my day, it was that much, I'm not saying that. But there is something too, when the NBA, for example,

changes its rules, and what was initially designed to get them out of this rut of low scoring games and very physical defensive minded contests to make it a more high scoring game has now kind of went the opposite way where it's like they basically play three point line to three point line. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And what was designed to make it more exciting and higher scoring and all that kind of stuff is now so sort of homogenous that it's made the overall product boring in the same way that just pure defensive battles of the late 90s and early 2000s became boring. You know what I mean? Right. Right. What it does, man, is that it actually, that material, the political economy, which dictates why everything feels so hollow and fake now, it like discourages like any unique innovation.

And I'm not using innovation the way that people say, well, capitalism is innovation. I'm just saying like, just watching something mad that has at the same time, that seems very familiar to me as a human being, but it's just so inventive and creative, you know, that it just kind of like puts it into a different perspective that I've never thought of. That's discouraged now, you know, because I guess like it's not even just because people are like too stupid, right, to think and process these things. But like you said, it's the cost efficiency, right? It's like, how can we market this to as many people to a lot to the biggest audience that we possibly can, you know? While like, you know, while kneecapping like the artists, the creative individuals, like artistic intent, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, yeah, it's, it's... I'm sure there's like some sort of quote about it. Somebody that like sacrifices something for liberty, deserves neither, I forget who said that or what the first term was in that sense But like it's it feels like applicable here. I don't know Well anyway, that's bit Tom and Aaron's art corner for

Nations on the decadence of you know contemporary art, you know, well We got a lot to cover today and I'm just going to jump right in here, Aaron, and tell you and ask you, what do you think about the CIA confirming the existence of the Ark of the Covenant using remote viewing as a new declassified document now claims? Wait, hold up. Wait, hold up. First of all, the CIA using their technology and resources has done a lot of horrible, evil, just deeply, deeply diseased shit.

But this is probably the most, I don't know, like not beneficial, but the most kind of like the least worst thing they could possibly do. So they're like, break this down to me. What did they, how did they figure this out? Okay, well, you know, so, you know what the gateway process and all those sort of things are with the CIA?

Nah, what's that? Basically, the CIA dabbled in entry-level occultism back in the day. And maybe still do, who knows? Apparently, if this is a current, an au courant headline, and maybe still do who knows apparently man apparently if this is a Current and all current headline, maybe they still do so this is like the Nazis like engaging in mysticism and shit like that To some degree or like, you know, the men that's Derek Goats. Okay, you know, you know that that kind of thing I do know that the CIA for whatever reason was

enamored of a Kentucky mystic named Edgar Cayce, who was famously I think he was called like the sleeping mystic because he would like kind of go into these like sleep things then he would wake up and like do this like little almost seizure like thing. So he just didn't have like narcolepsy or nothing? Like this was. Well, who's to say but Edgar Cayce actually still has a center. It's like the Edgar Cayce Center for like I don't know psychic studies or something

I guess probably more of a glorified museum if I had to take a guess. I've never visited I don't really know much about it, but that's just my like, you know knee jerk sort of sense of it like, you know, knee jerk sort of sense of it. But basically he would do this thing, he would do this routine where he would sleep, wake up, do this like little, I don't know, Harlem Shake. Do a Harlem Shake?

And then like start spouting out like prophecies or like observations or whatever it was. And some of them were like pretty accurate, others were, you know, stinkers. And to my, you know, they can pretty accurate, others were you know stinkers and to my you know they can't all be winners you know. So they I know for a fact like that's how I sort of got hip to like the CIA's dabbling and all this kind of stuff and who's to say what it is it's like I find it hard to believe the CIA actually believes in telepathy and psychic abilities

and it seems like more one of those things designed to just kind of boil people's brains. Have you seen that documentary Mirage Men? Nah. About like, I don't know if he was like a military guy or what, or like an intelligence agent, but this guy was basically going around to these like UFO groups Like and kind of antagonizing them. Why are you like some very kind of like fucked up ways? Yeah, and like making people like you know, I don't know what you know. I'm like MK ultra shit. You know what I mean? Oh Oh a little but like bit like kind of very mean-spirited I'm not sure what like the intelligence slash military apparatus had to gain by just like

showing up at best Western's out in Idaho to like you know like Go these like UFO people into stuff or like razz them or what you know like all the different kind of shit He was doing some of it really fucked up but up. But it kind of, for me, it kind of like took it like that's when I kind of like stopped believing in UFOs not in the sense of like I don't believe in UFOs but in the sense of like, okay I shouldn't say I stopped believing in it. I just have my questions about that stuff now. Is this not to gen people up and distract them from the other nefarious shit that these

like, these, I mean, the deep state for lack of a better term is actually doing, right? Right, yeah, because these things like interest in UFOs, interest in the occult, interest in all this stuff kind of skyrockets right before like weird like sort of epoch shifting sort of things happen, You know what I mean? Just like, I mean, I think that's documented in like something like even like Adam Curtis hyper normalization where he's talking about the interest in UFOs kind of skyrockets.

Right before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russian society became obsessed with psychics. For example, like 1900 psychics type thing. You know, now in our times, you can see that with like the interest in like, and I'm not bagging on astrology or anything when I say this, like you know, that stuff is to me, listen, any port in a storm baby, whatever. I mean look man, like if you think if you think that the movement of the planets you know, you know, dictates like you know who you are, like you know, your

behavior, I mean that shit is more real than money maybe, man. There's, hey listen, there's far kookier beliefs out there. I'll go ahead and tell you that. So, it's no shade to that, but an uptick in interest in that sort of thing, you can just see that as an objective truth. And I think that a lot of that has to do with this kind of stuff, but the article is kind of funny.

It says, Paging Dr. Indiana Jones. The CIA claimed to have confirmed the existence of the Ark of the Covenant by way of remote viewing, aka extrasensory perception or ESP, alleging the mysterious and sacred object is guarded by entities with an unknown power I recently resurfaced classified document claims in a remote viewing session on December 5th 1988 so I was Almost three years old. I was asked for being born man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're still you're still as an idea

Yeah, you were still being kicked around as an idea. I was a thought. Exactly. It was tasked with identifying a target that unbeknownst to them ended up being the storied Ark of the Covenant, according to a document which was declassified on August 8, 2000, which was my birthday, and has been circulating on social media. Logistically, when a remote viewer is tasked with searching for a target, the desired object is written down on a piece of paper and put into an envelope. The remote viewer does not know what is written and is guided through the process by another

person, retired US Army Chief Warrant Joe McMon-Eagle explained. Well, that's, you know, I'm glad they've got a guy on staff for such a thing. McMon-Eagle, aka remote viewer number one, was the first to do the psychic phenomena experiments for the CIA and he is not convinced by the exercise memorialized in the declassified document. Remote Viewer 32's vision described a secret middle eastern location of the object which they don't know is the Ark but they say is protected by entities. Target is a container.

This container has another container inside of it. The target is fashioned of wood gold and silver Similar in shape to a coffin and is decorated with seraphim they relayed per the file Visuals of surrounding buildings indicate the presence of mosque domes. They said adding that Arabic speaking men dressed in all white Populated the area. Oh, that's interesting. That's an interesting date Roberts is it scarva You know Robert Yeah, yeah, yeah, he he

He said that he's like it's funny that like the CIA uses these Techniques to like find stuff like the Ark of the Covenant or like, you know The lost city of Atlantis or whatever but never to like do anything tangible like stop drug trafficking the lost city of Atlantis or whatever, but never to do anything tangible like stop drug trafficking. Yeah, something that would be a net posit for society. So that's kind of why I think a lot of this stuff when it comes out is specifically designed to boil people's brains that are like, and listen, I, first to tell you,

I don't want to live in a disenchanted world and I love the study of this stuff, but it does seem like in these times where everybody's kind of cracking up and everybody's got their own individual set of beliefs that this kind of stuff is probably pretty intentionally to confirm they're kind of strange buys. Right, right, well it seems like either an attempt to,

preempting either a foreign conflict, or the fact that things are collapsing, the contradictions are widening, so you have to distract people, and actually also preempt any kind of solidarity. And I don't even mean solidarity among workers, just the fact that, okay, what is my government doing? What's happening to me?

And who are the people, my neighbors, my coworkers, my family members who I can like, rally around and try to figure out what the fuck is going on and pursue like some kind of action, direct action. But it feels like a lot of this stuff is also a connect, how can I say it, man? It kind of taps into our fear of the other and the unknown you know what I mean and especially I think about UFOs

like during the like you know during like I don't know the Cold War especially you know and seeing the Soviets as the other and essentially ginning people up for some grand conflict or conclusion because you already looking up at the sky expecting that there's UFOs that are so far removed from humanity that the only thing that we can do is possibly annihilate them. Because obviously they're malevolent entities, which again equals the Soviets. You know what I mean?

Or like on that same line that they're going to come and rescue us or something. Exactly. Exactly. I think it is connected to though why we, you know, we've been talking about this on the show a little bit, but like, you know, why like all these like Trump connected like billionaires like Peter Till and stuff are like doing the press rounds and like bringing up words like apocalypse and you know, you know, cataclysm and these sort of like, you know, this end time sort of imagery to what is essentially

just going to usher in an era of like, you know, companies being treated like aggrieved citizens. You know, I saw this article yesterday, Terrence had sent it to me, I think, Ken Clippenstein was sharing around something that said that the FBI's basically function is like rent a comps for CEOs and like healthcare corporations now ever since like Luigi allegedly domed that guy, you know? And it's like, okay, yeah, they're talking about, yeah, they're using all this sort of like, it is not dissimilar in the great Clyde Woods' book, Development Arrested, it is not dissimilar in the great Clyde Woods' book,

Development Arrested, it is not dissimilar to how the planter class in the south named Memphis, Tennessee, Cairo, Illinois, pronounced Cairo locally, but Cairo, Illinois, they named all these sort of like stops in the Delta where they had enslaved human beings, right? After these great Egyptian cities. And they used that imagery, and they did these weird little occult rituals

where they like, this is sort of the origin story of the founding of the Ku Klux Klan too, where they would fashion themselves as the Grand Dragon or some grandiose like sort of a grand wizard. Yeah Yeah, there was like this secret order You know what I mean, and you still have vestiges of that going on but the veil profit thing like in, Missouri You know like they found out like the actress from the great Kimmy Schmidt had been like involved in that kind of thing really whatever Yeah, yeah, yeah, like crazy shit. I mean, you see it with like, to a lesser degree,

but still some of those elements in like, you know, you know, what do you call it? Where you like, you take your teenage daughter and you like, like Cotillion, whatever. Yeah, anyway, anyway, these sort of like, Southern society things. Like, it's not dissimilar to that kind of shit. You know what I mean?

In my opinion. I mean, we're just re, we're like recreating. I mean, if religion, especially, I guess like, well, I guess organized religion and belief systems are a way for us to countenance sort of like the unexplainable or what seems unexplainable to us but on top of that it's also a way for you to like exercise power by saying that you are the one that holds the knowledge right to unlock that kind of

like that mystical miss that mystical like non understanding you know what I mean that you are the only one that is able to do this, right? And you are actually the protectors and the guardians, right? Of malevolent entities or malevolent forces or the things that we don't understand but are fearful of that will upend our lives, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, totally, totally.

And I think that, yeah, some of that stuff too, I think is like a slippery slope to, but like America is kind of founded on like all these like weird myths too, you know what I mean? Where it's like, I think some of that stuff is a slippery slope to like real antisemitism. I'm not talking about the Israeli ginned up

blood libel kind where like if a IDF guy kills a Palestinian reporter, that they, well it's a blood libel that where like if a IDF guy kills a Palestinian reporter that they cut what's a blood libel that you said that it's an old Anti-semitic canner shut your fucking ass up, right? Right? Right? Yeah there's a there's a difference between a guy like bulldozing people in their home shooting kids in the fucking head and peddling like obvious myths about like, you know, Jews using Christian blood to bake bread with or whatever. You know what I mean? Like get the fuck out of town.

You know what I mean? But like real anti-Semitism, you know, that obviously Jewish people still face. But like that and like, you know, I told a story last week on the show about like, you know, I want to incriminate this person, but like, you know, a well-meaning person telling me about like, you know, basically say, you know,

propagating the Irish slave myth, and then like saying that like, you know, that slaves were actually happy and all that kind of stuff. And it's like, when you get so far down these rabbit holes of all this sinister cabals of whoever, and I'm not saying that some of that's not warranted to some degree. Right, right, right. We know CIA has been doing all kinds of fuck shit for a long time. For example.

But you get so far down that rabbit hole, and then when you strip it to its bare parts, it's just racist. Yeah, it's just, I'm scared of black people. I don't trust Jewish people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like everybody's looking for the secret code to unlock the world. You know what I mean? And like sometimes that can lead to like, well, it's this group or this group or this

group. And it's like, no, it is just a subset of people, some of them Jews, some of them Gentiles, that have all the goddamn money. Exactly, and power. And subjugate the rest of us, to varying degrees based along modalities like race and class and all these other things. Sometimes race and class.

And these people are responsible for creating the mythical narratives, right, that you believe in in the first place, right? Right, and they've always been doing it. That's why I was making a point about the planter class. You know what I mean? Like the Ku Klux Klan, keep fancying themselves as like building a new Egypt

in the Americas. You know what I mean? They've always been doing that weird occult shit. That's like, it's just designed to like, I don't know, maybe it's just to give them something to do, but like have their little secret societies or whatever but like also part of it is just like You know to provide a smoke screen for what they're really doing exactly like brother is getting free labor out of an enslaved class of people

Exactly brother is the it's the further mystification of class relations of capitalistic social relations, right? that almost and I think, like our sort of obsession with whether it's, you know, ancient Egypt, but especially, you know, ancient Rome, you know, thinking about a time in which people didn't have all the answers, you know what I mean? And thinking about a time in which like, we are so at right now, the current for the present,

that we're so bombarded with technology right we live in this information age where it feels as if everything can be known but there are things that we don't know right i mean we could say that there are political social economic trends that can inform you know the way we behave the way we behave, the way we act, and future events. But it's this obsession with this mystified past, and harkening back to a time where niggas didn't know nothing. You know what I mean? So you didn't know nothing.

So I'm gonna taste them guys, complete morons. Completely, you didn't know nothing, but it was God himself, right? Who gave you the privilege and the knowledge right of how to rule a people You know what I mean, and we're just recreating that shit dog We're just recreating that shit man, or they're recreating it. I should say you know what I mean Yeah It is

Nothing new under the Sun my friend nothing new unfortunately Nothing new under the Sun my friend nothing do unfortunately You know however, I will say this is that like that is a relative thing because I'm seeing a couple things that are new iterations of old things from under the Sun and I have to tell you this is Yeah, I know things like this been going on forever like know, like what I'm getting ready to talk about. Like you have Clinton with the three strikes, you have like all kinds of things where this country

is just thoroughly denigrated, like prisoners and, you know, and they've done all sorts of heinous things and human rights violations stuff while we point to the Chinese and say, no, can you believe what they're doing over there? It's like, what the fuck you talking about? Exactly. Which you don't think that prisoners in the United States,

like the country with the most incarcerated people who are fucking making the aglets for your shoelaces and license plates and shit, dog? Like, what are you talking about, man? Yeah, that's cups from Starbucks. Yeah, yeah, or that. Yeah, yeah, some guy named Gold was making six cents a day to make those cups, okay?

Right. So this is about this stunt that Kristen Noem, her of, you know, when she was the governor of one of the Dakotas killed a dog, it was inconvenient, showed up. No surprise that that type of person would also do something like this. Can I just, can I just say real quick now to get you up? Like we live in such a, We live in such a degenerate country that man's best friend, someone who's been accused,

or no, not accused, admitted, right, to killing a dog is still empowered. That's how much of a degenerate society we live in, bro. You know what I mean? Well, in some ways, in some ways, she's the perfect person for this job by virtue of that fact. Yeah, that's true.

I think about that, dude. If you ever just want to like a good cry, I think everybody has like lost a dog they cared about or had a special relationship with a dog. If you're not a person that doesn't like dogs, you know, I don't know what to tell you. You kind of lost it. See if you don't. But you know, if you ever want a good cry, just cue up John Hytes, my dog and me. Reminds me, I had a dog named Rupp one time that was a little blue pit bull.

And we were on a hike and we were getting up into the top of Bad Branch Falls, which is rattlesnake habitat, you know. And you go down there, you gotta really be careful because they'll just kind of be under rocks and whatever. You kind of have to be on your P's and Q's. You definitely don't wanna go like sticking your hand down under a bunch of rocks or anything like that up there.

But there was a stake that was in our path and it was like right there and it was like rattling the whole shit. That motherfucker stood between me and him. I'll never forget, this is the best act of friendship I'd ever had except when my buddy Pete, if he's listening, stood up for me one time when I got a bucket of slime dumped on my head at a basketball game. He's slime like Nickelodeon slime? Yeah like I got slimed at a basketball game it was not my finest hour but that dog and it was it's a sad story because he was stolen from me. Somebody had like stolen from me,

broken my house and stolen from me. God, that motherfucker stood between me and that snake and didn't budge a fucking inch and just snarled at that motherfucker. And it went off the path, it went away. Brother, I always say to people man, if you want unconditional love, get a dog, man. Well, so on the basis of that, fuck Kristen Noem already,

but fucking psycho. So she's, you know, I read from the New Republic, Homeland Security Secretary slammed for stun at El Salvador prison, which I'm assuming is that massive facility they built to like house 40,000 prisoners or something, based largely on this weird fear that Americans have adopted of MS-13. So it's a concentration camp, basically.

Yeah, basically for like, you know, like MS-13 is kind of like Al-Qaeda in the sense that it's real but like it looms a little larger than it should in people's imagination proportional to like what their actual influence is. And how it affects you personally wherever you live. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, and like, yeah.

So, reading from the New Republic, says, Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristen Noem, on Wednesday visited the mega prison in El Salvador where US deportees are being held and decided to post a propaganda video to push the Trump administration's immigration policies. Noem visited the Terrorism Confinement Center in the country Wednesday posting a garish video of herself speaking in front of a crowded prison cells full of partially clothed tattooed detainees on X and bragging about the administration's policy of deporting immigrants to El Salvador at times even without due process.

And she's, I'll just kind of play the video here to see if this picks up. Here at CICOT today and visiting this facility. And first of all I want to thank El Salvador and their president for their partnership with the United States of America to bring our terrorists here and to incarcerate them and have consequences for the violence that they have perpetuated in our communities. I also want everybody to know, if you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face. First of all, do not come to our country illegally. You will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people. I'm not sure if that actually picked up very well, but if not, I'll have Terrence kind of splice that in. But like basically she's standing in front of this facility and it literally looks like a Tyson chicken facility. You know like one of those from one of those documentaries

They like put those chickens and like these just fucking crazy conditions like where they pack their pack together I mean like yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but it's human beings You know what I mean? And she's sitting there and she's also I saw somebody say that she's wearing a $60,000 Rolex Jesus fucking on her On her arm. Well it goes on here. It's just like an insanely twisted, somebody also pointed it out that that's a violation of the fourth Geneva Convention. It's like take pictures with prisoners. Many of the people the administration has

deported are civilians accused of being hardened criminals or gang members sometimes on the flimsy basis of being Latinos with tattoos. In one case, a Venezuelan asylum seeker was deported to El Salvador because he had a tattoo inspired by the soccer club Real Madrid and had made hand gestures in social media posts. Meanwhile, El Salvador is run by autocrat Nayib Bukele, who has been accused of severe human rights violations and has thumbed his nose at US court rulings. Still the Trump administration made a deal with him to aid in mass deportation. And now El Salvador is helping administration officials make attention seeking propaganda videos.

I ask you, my friend, I think there's this sort of liberal dream that like the courts are going to intervene at some point in all this. And at what juncture do they? And what do Geneva Conventions avail in real materialist terms to fascists? Right, right. How do you enforce that?

First of all, how do you enforce that? First of all, how do you enforce it? And secondly, it's like that article that we had read last week where Terrence was talking about that lawyer who had formed this alliance of anti-Trump lawyers who were going to counter his executive actions through the court. And first of all, dog, I'm sorry, but not only do I think about Republicans and conservatives putting all of these judges and shit in all of these really decisive, I guess, circuits

or positions where they will not challenge anything that the people who put them in power already agree with, right? But also too, how do you enforce that, right? I just feel like this country already has conservative, very actionary institutions that are not conducive to human rights in the first place So this is already this is already par for the course, bro You know what I'm saying? Well, they've already set the tone from this because like okay Maybe Kamala Harris wasn't like garish and fucking vile enough to like take a picture in front of like detainees in a prison

right, you know what I'm saying, right but What Kristen Noem said was not markedly different from her do not come 100% Do not come on my heart. You know what I mean? And it's like it's like if that is our bullwork against this kind of stuff like We're fucked because they literally set the tone for this bro. They set the tone for it man, and they condone it I mean, yeah, they can tell you know and their biggest their best listen Here's how like if you're looking for the Democrats or the courts to intervene that is sure a sign that you're you're boned in that sense The I saw that you know I think I talked about last week on the show

But I was just keep thinking about the hilarity of that James Carvel op-ed where he suggests the Democrats take a strategic retreat ad where he suggests the Democrats take a strategic retreat. A strategic retreat. They'll do enough, they'll give them enough rope to hang themselves and then we'll win the next election. That is your goddamn problem. If you're just trying to figure out how to win a fucking election instead of how to actually be a force for decency in the world. Listen bro, I know I've said this before so but they we were warned apparently

like because I've been seeing people liberals say well we warned you we warned you I think actually one of these official democratic Twitter accounts I don't know what arm or political wing of the Democratic Party but they were like we warned you and it's like dog it's one thing to be like okay if he wins he's going to do all these things it's like dog. It's one thing to be like, okay if he wins he's going to do all these things It's another thing to not even prepare for that shit in the first place to have any sort of response that involves especially like mass Organization collective action, right? You know what I mean? Whereas all it is is just like well, there's nothing we throwing up my hands There's nothing we could do now about it. You know what I mean? It's just like that makes me think that you wanted this shit to happen in the first place

You just didn't want the blood to be on your hands motherfucker, right? You want some plausible deniability exactly? It's like it's hard when you look at this whole body of evidence to think that they didn't intentionally throw that election just to let Trump do what like they wanted to do but just didn't want the like sort of PR hit Exactly, you know to do because if you look at like what Trump wants to do what but just didn't want the like sort of PR hit. Exactly. You know, to do, because if you look at like what Trump wants to do and what, and what the Harris campaign said they want to do, there's not a lot of daylight between it. And in fact, they ran on the big issues like Gaza or retreated on the big issues,

not ran on. Right, right. Gaza climate change. Yeah. Immigration. Yeah. And immigration. Like you're like, which is which is crazy town because in 2020 Biden literally ran on kids in cages at the border When it was it was not politically expedient Like what do you think this is? These are like these people that are set those are some I don't give a fuck if they're Tatted to the fucking brim, those

somebody's babies, man. You know what I mean? 100%, 100%, dude, 100%, but at the end of the day, it's like Democrats set the tone and then Republicans are the ones that actually, because they have the license to do it, because it's normalized, and because also Democrats are so feckless that they're not going to do nothing about it, that they actually engage and pursue these policies. Not to say that Democrats don't, but then when the stage has been set and these fascistic draconian policies have been normalized, Democrats just continue them, dog.

You know what I mean? They don't actually like repeal them I mean, I know there's some things that Trump had done that Biden had repealed or whatever, right? But at the end of the day the swing the pendulum swings right back, you know, yeah Absolutely, and it's like a man. It's such a frustrating dance. This woman should be buried under a jail dog Listen listen I am a prison abolitionist through and through but as long as we live in this society, okay? You know one of history's big like whoopsie-doos is how they did not bury fucking Trump and Steve Bannon under the fucking jail. 100% dude.

Steve Bannon and his varicose veined ass self, yo. You know what I'm saying? Just grotesque dude. Like when you've drank enough booze to get those little like busted blood vessels on your fucking cheeks and nose and shit. It's like, my god man. Anyway, well to close out our discussion day with the big piece of news this week was that like, uh, the editor of the Atlantic was added to a signal chat. You saw the story. I saw the story.

Signal chat that was allegedly detailing, uh, war plans for a U S guided invasion of Yemen, maybe a continuation of like, you know, I know when Trump first got in office, one of his first things he was doing is they gave him like a controller and he was like, led some expeditions in Yemen and they got to bomb some places or something. People forget about that, you know what I mean?

It was around the same time that he just fucking microwaved Soleimani and created a mortal enemy of the Iranian people. More so than we had already done, you know what I mean? Using something called the Moab, by the way, the mother of all bombs, which if you have to give that moniker to a weapon, I mean, just, I don't even know, man, that's demonic.

Well, I mean, it also led to one of the great political retorts of, you know, this century when somebody, like an Iranian official had said, well how can we get a recompense from, and I'm paraphrasing, Soleimani, when the US has no war legacy, they have no heroes, they have SpongeBob and they have names like that.

Spider-Man, like names of cartoon characters, which is like, that's Mars, you know what I mean? If you cancel Ted Lasso, you know if you cancel the do if you cancel Ted Lasso you know what I'm saying I guess we would be offended you know be injurious to us you know to me but other than that I don't know you know you do well so I'm taking it by now everybody's like familiar with this story but like there was a new twist that kind of came out yesterday where Michael Waltz, the national security advisor, his Venmo was left open. And like it was full of like reporters and journalists in his like Venmo stuff and

apparently this guy has like yeah has like will talk to anybody I guess apparently for the right price or whatever. Which is funny because like before this like Trump, Terrence and I were talking about this yesterday at lunch, Trump has like struck a very different cord from his first administration to this administration. In the first administration if you just ran afoul of him or did something to embarrass him he would just fire you because like he's like a fucking game show host you know that's all he knew that's the only mode he knew. Now he's exercising some like party discipline to some degree. You know what I mean?

He's still very much Trump, and still very much just making pronouncements like some little weird French king or something. But he's still very much in that mode. But now he is like, he's vociferously defending Waltz. And now this story comes out today, which is par for the course kind of because like I'm Trump is most definitely a pay-for-play guy, you know what I mean?

If he's not getting nothing out of it, he's not engaging, you know. Yeah But this story is in the in the crimes. I guess yesterday With the signal snafu Michael Walz is thrust into the spotlight. National security advisor already embattled is taking the brunt of the criticism. On Fox News he said he took full responsibility for a journalist being included in the chat with sensitive information. When that story broke, there was just something weird about that to me. It's like there's just no way, question mark, that you would just accidentally slip on a banana peel

and add a journalist to the... I mean, I know these people- ...to highly sensitive... I mean, I know these people are stupid, but again, they're also engaged. I mean, if we're talking about the relationship between journalists and government officials, the fact that journalists are essentially a mouthpiece, right, for the government, right, and for an administration. I mean, like, he was purposefully in that chat because he's a mouthpiece for the fucking Trump, Biden, Harris administration, if it had been so. You know what I mean? So this feigned outrage that liberals have, it's like, you already know this.

You're already engaging this propaganda in the first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're already abetting it propaganda in the first place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, you're already abandoning it, you know, and then but the funny part is is like the chud retort like Hag Seth, which I was talking with a friend it's like Hag Seth like look like his last name kind of like suggests how he smells You know what? I mean? like he does smell probably smell like a man that didn't wash his hands for a year and kind of smells like You ever been into like a pissy bar floor where it's like sticky stale bud light smell and all that stuff

I bet that's what like Hag Seth just Radiates that it's like probably glossed over with like toxic amounts of like aquadigio or something like bro He smell like he smell like he smell like a's smell like he's smell like a roadkill You know carrying from a swamp creature, bro. That's probably smells like Smells like a perfume counter probably fucked a bar floor after a busy night but Anyway, yeah like when he was asked about this stuff like it was funny that like they're like the reporter was asking So how did it happen that a journalist was tagged

into this Signal chat, which is kind of goofy that they're planning invasions over Signal anyway. You know what I mean? Even people in organizing spaces have questions about the security of Signal. You know what I mean? There's only two things you should use Signal for. If you organize it, or if you buy it drugs, brother.

You know what I'm saying? You buy it or, yeah, moving weight. Yeah. That's it, dude. Well, if you buy a drugs brother, you know, yeah Moving white. Yeah so He asked and that all I kept defaulting to is how like the Atlantic is failing Which who gives a fuck about that airport rag anyway but like they just they just kept like sort of like putting the shift on like how Like this is a crazy left-wing rag and that it's like well that still doesn't answer the question

How you fucking imbeciles like got him in the chat, you know, all right Anyway, this is like this sort of talks about the waltz dimension He says despite president Trump's insistence on Tuesday morning that his national security advisor Michael waltz quote has learned a lesson Spanked with a ruler bro. You got spanked with a ruler. After inadvertently including the editor of the Atlantic in a cabinet level chat session, speculation continues to build about Mr. Walz's job security. Mr. Trump vigorously defended Mr. Walz in front of television cameras during an event a few hours later saying he should not have to apologize for the breach. That man is a very good man right there that you criticized, Mr. Trump said, pointing to

Mr. Walz after a reporter asked if the president would order practices to be changed. So he's a very good man and he will continue to do a good job. In addition to him, we had very good people in that meeting and those people have done a very, very effective job Mr. Walt said later on Tuesday that I take full responsibility for sharing the military plans on the messaging app signal Telling Laura Ingraham on Fox News that he had built the group and added the Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg to it which another Terrence claimed to fame it. Jeffrey Goldberg was Terrence's first person to block Terrence on Twitter. Most of the Republican Party has leaped to Mr. Walz's defense, seeking to blame the news

media for the uproar. But in interviews, several close allies of the president characterized the National Security Advisor's standing as precarious, more so than it already was when the New York Times reported on his uneasy status over a week ago. Those who discussed Trump administration views on Mr. Walz did so on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly. His fate, they say, rests on Mr. Trump's capricious nature with several competing factors coming

into play. On the one hand, it is Mr. Trump's nature to defy a media firestorm rather than to try to quell it by offering up a sacrificial lamb. He parted from this tendency at the beginning of his first administration when he had fired his national security advisor Michael Flynn for not divulging his encounters with Russian officials to the FBI according to one advisor from that era. Mr. Trump soon regretted that act of acquiescence. This time around, according to several people who have spoken to Mr. Trump over the first

two months of his term, he wants to avoid firing people because of the narrative of chaos that will quickly engender. Also, too, I think it's like, sure, the narrative of chaos, but quickly engender. Also too, I think like sure the narrative of chaos, but also he's not going to face any repercussions. People can talk about it in the media all day, people get upset, but nothing is actually going to happen and he realizes that now, you know? Well, but also too, there's the, you know,

brother, if it's chaos you're looking to avoid, maybe don't have like plain clothes hoodie cops like abducting like Turkish grad students. Like you see the young woman today from Tufts got just disappeared right off the fucking street. You maybe don't have your fucking Wyn and Zandex mom, director of Homeland Security stand in front of a bunch of Salvadorian prisoners and do like a fucking magic prop. That's not even chaos though, brother. That's business as usual, right?

That's been normalized to the point where it's like, ah, we're not going to throw a fit about this. You know what I mean? I mean, you see people maybe talk about it, but again, he knows he's not going to face any repercussions for any of this. That's why he can bring back people like Steve Bannon and liberals who have the memory of Goldfish or I mean, the morals of a fucking Goldfish. You know what I mean? Like, they just don't really give a shit I don't it's

performative I should say the outrage you know yeah yeah goes on to say mr. waltz also benefits from a much closer relationship to the president the mr. Flynn had as a Republican congressman from 2019 until his current appointment mr. waltz have been an unflagging defender of Mr. Trump throughout his political and legal travails He spent much of last year campaigning for Mr. Trump often traveling aboard the president's private plane He aggressively questioned the director of the Secret Service at a hearing after an assassination Attempt on Mr. Trump at a rally near Butler PA and became a defender of Mr. Trump against the agency Perhaps most significantly. Mr. Waltz frequently served as a campaign surrogate on Fox News,

thereby passing the eyeball test for Mr. Trump who prefers his senior aides be telegenic. Which is kind of funny that Trump is the only guy that still watches cable TV. And yet he still thinks that like, Terrence, I don't know if this is judgment, he's the only guy that still watches TV and still like, you know, thinks that people give a fuck what happens, what's said on the view or something like that. You know what I mean? I mean, he's such a product of not only his generation,

but anybody who's a septuagenarian, you know what I mean? People who still watch cable news and form their opinions and morals based on it, you know? Yeah. Oh my God, dude. It's so funny that a president who they're using his sort of superficial charisma and charm and all that kind of stuff to sort of usher in this era, and all they have to do in return is just ensure him that he's the number one boy or whatever, is like, they're

trying to usher in this weird era era of techno feudalism and Trump is still very much in the 80s. You know what I mean? Exactly. Also too, I have to say too, to after this that like, you know, what's, what's insane is that liberals are liberals particularly are more upset about this signal chat I guess or like you know like the fact that or just are more talking about the fact that um this Atlantic editor-in-chief was included in it then what they were actually talking about you know what I

mean so once again it obfuscates like what is that was actually the issue here you know the fact that they're in a signal chat talking about the continuation of a Slaughter right of a beleaguered country and people's man. You know yeah, yeah Yeah, that's the crazy part is like yeah They're talking about these people like they're like Sims or something and actual flesh-and-blood human beings But like people that they're just like killing in like a video game or something. Right. Exactly.

Let's see, but Mr. Walz has now given Mr. Trump reason to second guess his loyalty, two people familiar with the matter suggest it. The detail that Mr. Goldberg, the editor of the Atlantic, appeared to be in Mr. Walz's list of contacts to begin with and possibly mistaken for another JG to be invited into the Signal Group chat. JG Ballard? Is that what he thought it was? No, no. JG Wentworth. 877-CASH-NOW. And sent up alarms among the president's allies according to people familiar with their thinking. In his appearance on Ms. Ingram's Fox News show Tuesday

evening, Mr. Walt suggested that Mr. Goldberg's number had been saved under another person's contact information is fine what you like That's like how I say my Jeff Goldberg your side chick and you got his name changed That's like me going to my weed dealer, bro, and I know his name, but I just saved his weed man You know, I got like five different weed bad like contacts in my phone So I'm like weed man number one or two or three like I don't know man Always an adventure when you're trying to do it Where this carousel stops nobody knows In the American conservative a founding editor Scott McConnell wrote Tuesday

I don't see how national security advisor Mike waltz organized in a group chat with the Atlantic's Jeffery Goldberg goes away without waltz's in a group chat with the Atlantic's Jeffery Goldberg goes away without Waltz's resignation. In the Atlantic article, Mr. Goldberg recounted that Mr. Waltz had sent him a connection request on Signal on March 11th, adding that he didn't find it particularly strange that he might be reaching out to me. Asked about the Signal fiasco in a news conference with Mr. Trump Tuesday, Mr. Waltz described Mr. Goldberg as somebody I've never met, don't know, never communicated with. In an interview with this article. Mr. Goldberg said that he had met Mr. Walz a few years ago at two events but had never interviewed.

Ironically, it was Mr. Walz's familiarity with members of the U.S. foreign policy establishment, including Mr. Goldberg, that provided relief to some quarters after he was named to the second Trump administration. A former Green Beret and four-time recipient of the Bronze Star, Mr. Walz had served in the national security apparatus for the Bush and Obama administrations before working for a defense contracting firm and then running for Congress, as is that classic trajectory. Mike's exceptionally well-rounded, said Peter Bergen, an author and national security analyst who wrote the foreword to one of Mr. Walz's books. I saw it as an inspired choice on Trump's part.

Others saw Mr. Walz as a curious selection. An avowed hawk, he staunchly defended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in his 2014 book, Warrior Diplomat. Available, I won't say we're fine books. Sober alcoholic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sober we're fine, but sober alcoholic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sober alcoholic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a podcast interview at 2021,

he warned that withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan, as Mr. Trump had proposed doing, was the best way to cause another 9-11 to happen. Mr. Walts instead advocated a sustained troop presence like the one that had been in Columbia, a great model for over three decades. Such views have caused Mr. Walts to be branded a neocon in right-wing circles. Many of those who have heralded Mr. Walts' capabilities now find themselves at pains

to explain his breach of security protocol. At the news conference on Tuesday, Mr. Trump reiterated that Mr. Walts was a very good man and that attacks on him were very unfair, but some of the president's allies have speculated that this appraisal could change it could change if his national security advisor is increasingly viewed with ridicule. Those who have known Mr. Trump throughout the years point to a striking constant. While he's a high tolerance for lightning rocks, he has a very low one for laughing stocks. Damn. I mean, man, this is just making, this whole story is just making me think that of course

this wasn't an accident. Of course they wanted these plans to leak out because like they don't give a fuck about the media, they don't respect the media, they don't respect the intelligence of the, the intelligence or even the morality, right? Like what the capacity, your moral like what the capacity your moral capacity The public's more capacity rather so it's like why not? Like say this heinous shit throw our plans out there because what do you think? What do you think you're gonna?

Do you think that you think that like the people that you're actually killing and attacking or going to retaliate and have some for not like It's some some some for knowledge.knowledge of this, right? And it's gonna fuck up your plans. They don't give a shit, dude. They know that's not gonna happen. This is just to normalize the act before it already happens, man. And just to give the benefit to people like fucking Jeff,

what, Goldberg or whatever the fuck his name is, from the Atlantic, man. Yeah, I think Terrence said he got blocked many, many years ago, because I think he was criticized. I think Goldrence said he got blocked many many years ago because I think he was criticized I think Goldberg used to be a prison guard in the IDF or something like that. Jesus fucking Christ dude of course. Well this is why you know for all you fellas listening out there you know this is why you don't join group chats man I think I'm in like one or two one of which which with you guys, with you and Terrence,

but don't join group chats, brother, you know? Don't do it, man. Yeah, well. You never know what can leak out. There's a cautionary tale there, you know what I mean? We saw it with many such examples of participation in group chat or get you embarrassed at a certain point.

So I can't keep up with them, frankly. I just, I come back to my phone. I got 128 messages. I'm just like, what? And then I just click the one group chat and they all go away. You know, it's like, I mean, look, people will invite me or like, they'll add me to group chats on Twitter and I'll just mute them forever. You know, and so I just forget that they. Because I feel like it's rude to leave.

I feel like because they give you the, oh, Cosmic Slop has left the chat. So just mute it, just ignore it. Or if you're someone like Jeff Goldberg and you want to use this so that you can continue to peddle as a mouthpiece of the State Department and of Empire, I guess you could stay in it, you know? Yeah. And allow liberals to feign outrage, you know? Yeah. So, I don't know. There you have it, folks.

Your weekly news roundup. We did it, man. We did it, brother, man. We did it. Skeleton crew, but we did it today. You got any parting thoughts? No, man. I've just, this is mad random, man, but I've just been watching The Sopranos and

it's a really really good fucking show. It's my first time seeing it and yeah, I don't know. Watch some TV man. Yeah, I'm reading 2666 and really rediscovering my love of literature. Oh hell yeah brother, hell yeah. Yeah man, I think I was, we were talking earlier before we got on and I've kind of been Kind of been slacking on the reading man, but uh, and I've been reading a lot of science fiction too for the past I mean forever now

but I've been getting back into Faulkner and I realized that I have a collection of his a tie a collection of his entire short stories, so I've been getting back into that and I mean this is an aside and I know Faulkner had some really complicated views about segregation, but dude, on the second page of this, on the second page of this- You sound like my grandfather. It was complicated.

He's a complicated man. On the second page of this story, Barton Burning, is just uses the word nigger. I'm just like, alright, man Like no, no, I mean like I like I like Faulkner though. So Like fuck though. So yeah, he was a strange nigger is what he says, which I'm like, I'm a strange nigga too, brother Well, I think that's a good place is any listen if you like what you've heard you could get more of it every week simply

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Really bring it home. But yeah, we always appreciate your generous support. And yeah, I guess we'll catch you on the paid feed on Monday so yeah anything else before we take off? No man just um you know it's getting a little warmer outside so you know well at least where I am so I don't know just enjoy the nice weather man and soak up that vitamin D get rid of the sads shake it off baby we're entering a new season. Hell yeah. Alright folks, we'll catch you next time. Peace. So Thanks for watching!