Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 392: A Poor Aesthetic Choice

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

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taste. What's the king to the gods? What's the, what you say? Easy. What's the God to the kings? Say El Rey. The Los Dios. Que es Los Reyes. Que es Los Reyes. Ah Dios. Los Dios. Los Dios. Reyes. Oh, yes. I love deals. I love deals. No, Iglesia and they'll come to say wild in Spanish. What is wild? I don't know. Actually, don't know.

Oh, no, sir. Loco Loco. I guess what? A seven look. What is the king's to the gods and the gods to the to to the non-believer and so the back That's on the new arcade fire song that's a new song off the new album arcade fire album. I was just reading the art of the Pitchfork review for it and there is a lyric in it that made me laugh my ass off. I'm a real boy My heart's full of love. It's not made out of wood

Pinocchio I'm a real boy my house made a fuller love. It's not made out of wood That's not really how Arcade Fire sings. That's more national, huh? Well, that's not really how Arcade Fire sings. That's more national, huh? That's What is it what is Arcade Fire sound like what is that? I mean, I'm not gonna front I did like those first two albums I didn't listen to anything past the neon Bible. I remember when neon Bible came out. It's like Yeah, that album was pure anti-bush Pure anti-bush prophet Propaganda pure anti-bush pro landing strip

I'm right a teacher in high school who said who here's pro bush and my friend Jay Swector raises his hand I said I'm more of a landing strip guy Walk right into it's like as a teacher like how do you address that? It's like I get the joke, but if I acknowledge that I get the joke, that will out me as- You're getting into some weird territory. Yeah.

Does anyone do the landing strip anymore? I don't know. Men should get into the landing strip. When guys did it when I was, you called it the scooby trail and I never knew I never knew what that was about I didn't I didn't did it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there were guys that openly did the landing strip Yeah, I'm more of a helipad At least like a pure circle a I like it's like a

Perfect circle that was a good band Let's go to non-believe they would say they did they sing no church in the wild they sing songs So we got an arcade fire saying it a perfect circle named Kanye and Jay-z came back and covered it later Yeah, okay perfect circle did sing songs like that They were like what's the gods to the number? Was a perfect circle the side project of Maynard James Keenan of tool. Yeah, James Maynard James Maynard James Maynard keys Keys Keynes Keynes keys to the King it always fucked me up because it was like the economists like Keynes It always fucked me up because it was like the economist like Keynes Keynes. Yeah, John Maynard can John Maynard Kane But that was Maynard James Keenan. I think yeah, man. It is confusing Maynard James Keenan and kale That'd be a tight shot Maynard James Keenan. Okay, well it couldn't happen now because as I'm sure you're aware

He has allegations, oh does he mayn her James Keenan. Yeah, he's like James James Maynard canes and he definitely has allegations allegations of being bad at economics For not properly adjusting for inflation, that's right Aming the pieces fit when I'm working that good burger I'm trying to flip the patties, but I keep getting Edbago does comments in my comments in my ear. Wasn't that, wasn't that his name? I don't, I have to tell you something.

Wait, you've never seen, you've never seen Good Burger? I couldn't tell you. Oh yeah, I've seen Good Burger. I was gonna say I couldn't tell you a Tool song or a Perfect Circle song. I was just talking with Tool about Tool yesterday. That's how I brought it. I was like, uh, this friend of the show, Melanie Feinberg, was like, yeah tool about tool yesterday. That's how I brought it. I was like It's friend of the show Melanie fine, but he got canceled and I was like, I don't know who would know if he had allegations Or not. Oh, yeah Actually, yeah, I was that stump you on that one. You did something. I didn't know that he had allegations I think I need to support my neck here

So we're doing the good burger So we're doing the good burger. Maybe we're doing the good burger movie, but it's a tool song. Why can't we not make burgers? I watched this, this movie one time when I was in freshman in high school, I guess it was a better sophomore. Goodburger? Yeah, when it come out like two thousand... 1997.

Really? I watched that movie religiously when I was a kid. Did you? Yeah. Damn, I was more into adult content. Master P straight to VHS, I got the hook up. You were a little older than me though. That's true.

I was ten when this came out Yeah, I was watching Master P at 10. Technically I was 9 when this came out. Or 11 I guess. I remember it when it came out. It was in an orange VHS tape. That was sick. Like the Nickelodeon movies were in orange VHS tapes. You know what else was in an orange plastic thing? Master P's ghetto day. There's some connective tissue here. Oh Damn Yeah, I know every line from this movie pretty much Abe Bogota. So I was thinking of a Bogota Yeah, a Bogota not Ed Bogota. He was in the Godfather. He was Salvatore Tessio Hey, but go to also did a Dairy Queen come on an old Dairy Queen commercial go look up Abe begota Dairy Queen Abe

go to Come on just play the fucking they have to let you know that they found this in a forgotten reel somewhere Listen, I know Burger Queen's got great hamburgers and their chickens a good meal, too But you know what I really get a craving for what else? a good meal too but you know what I really get a craving for what else burger Queen takes these two big cod fillet see and they battered it and fry them up gold burger Queen it's not dairy Queen fries and sprinkle on some golden crispens golden crisp wait a second the burger Queen The next time you want the best fish around, go fish at Burger Queen. What the fuck is that?

I never heard of that. He's like, put some golden nuggets and crispas on it. It's like beamed in from an alternate universe where food is sort of like food. He's like, get a hamfernaut and a golden crispa. You're like, what the fuck? Don't tell me how to live a pagoda druthers formerly known as burger queen okay the Queenie be based in Louisville Kentucky yeah druthers is now what used to be Dairy Queen right that's weird there's one druthers left

in Campbell'sville Kentucky yeah there's one druthers left in Campbellsville, Kentucky Yeah, there's one racks left in Harlan County weirdly right the pieces fit we're in a competition with the Burger join across the street. I'm trying to remember the plot of burger of good burger. It was like someone had moved in across the street and They were making like steroid type burgers They were like pumping the burgers full of getting jacked and unrecognizable jacked in the burgers were jacked and unrecognizable

They were triumph of all remember that was the the chemical was it an early Triumph at all remember that was the the chemical was it an early commentary on like food additives You think maybe maybe burger. Maybe good burger was organic. Yeah. Yeah They should do that in the James Maynard Keenan and gal It's James Maynard Keenan jacked see like a jacked old guy? I think he is. Seems like he is. I think he is. James Maynard Keenan. What's he look like these days? He looks like Maynard James Keenan. Maynard James Keenan. This is what he looks like. MJK. Man, I don't like that. You don't like that. You don't like that. You think that's a good outfit? You don't like it when he looks like a... I thought he had like shaved his head or something. I think he like that. You don't like it? You think that's a good outfit? You don't like it when he looks like a...

I thought he had like shaved his head or something. I think he used to. Has he grown it back out now? I think he's grown it back out now. I think he goes back and forth. He does this thing where he shaves half of his head. That's not what's happening. Why can't I escape the allegations? Apparently to hear it told allegedly he would have one of his tour managers scour the tool shows for

teenage girls and bring them backstage to hang out. Whoa. Not a great look. I've not found this on The Wikipedia page and that's where he doesn't have an allegations tab. That's why you didn't know That's how I didn't know because it was if there was an allegations tab you'd have known. That's so true Is there anybody that you've wondered if they had allegations you just haven't looked into it yet on the wiki? hmm Like somebody I suspect yeah, I think that our cave fire guy has allegations what forgets just yeah the first time I'm hearing it that would have been funny if the reporter when they were telling Trump about the death of RBG they were like, oh and also the arcade fire guy has allegations

He's like My first time hearing this Manor James Keenan has another band called Pussifer. I don't like that one Manor James Keenan has another band called Pussifer. I don't like that one That's not that's not the name of a band if you got allegations you need to be having this guy is His vibes are so bad so bad. He's like he's like if Inui Malmsteen Dead like experimental metal, you know, I mean, yeah his his other stage names are Gaylord C and Dick Merkin Dude he's That's sounds like someone should have merked his dickish

The tablature is to be believed. Mm-hmm. Man. He's still got a full head of hair at age 61. I Don't like that though, that's not fair Why this guy get to have hey Well, what else is going on What I could have sworn that he was like British or maybe it was the name I thought he was like British or Australian or something Vinny It's from like Ohio from Ohio. Ravenna, Ohio. Okay.

It's up the greater Cleveland area. Mm-hmm. Yeah, a lot of rock. That's a rock town, I bet. I'm heaps excited. Heaps excited to see two. Heaps excited to eat your vagina. I've been thinking, I don't know why I would have had that phrase in my head. I'm heaps excited to eat your vagina. I'm heaps excited. Oh my god. Alright. I'm hating so much All right Shows over

Dude I was thinking today like what what would it have been like to be raised by Ron Paul? What would it be like? What is Rand Paul's life like? What was his childhood like? How were you raised by a libertarian who names you Rand? What are the birds and the bees talks that you get what are the What are the life lessons imparted to you if your father is a Confederate apologizing? libertarian

Ron Paul's Confederate apologize didn't he didn't he something came out so in the same way that like those Stories came out where Bernie was writing like softcore porn in the 70s. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like Ron Paul was writing like softcore Confederate apology. Yeah, that's right in the James Birch Society. Yeah, I think that's what it was That was that's really funny that they were like, oh my god. We found this in the James Birch Society It's like a second. I was even in the James Birch Society to begin with right now It's also it's like did you expect to find he even in the James Birch Society to begin with? Right, no, also it's like, did you expect to find something different in the James Birch? Did you expect to find?

What did you expect to find in the newsletter of the James Birch Society? Or John Birch Society. John Birch Society, my bad. Not James Maynard Birch. James Maynard, oh my God. Well, maybe I thought he was South African. Rand Paul? No, Maynard James. Oh, Maynard James. Well, maybe I thought he was South African. Rampal?

No, Maynard James Key. Oh, Maynard James Key. You might be thinking of Deont, yeah, Dave Matthews. Oh, yeah. But also Deontward, they were weird. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I heard some, they've got some allegations of sinister variety. Speaking of South Africans.

South Africans. Apparently, we're getting a bunch of them. We're getting a bunch of we're getting a bunch of them not not natives We're getting a bunch of boards man South Africa is lucky as fuck Imagine if we got to get rid of our racist whites in America, that's that's tight like we'll take your tired You're weary your huddled race your huddled racist masses That's who we're taking it here. Yeah, it's a win for South Africa. That's the funniest thing because Trump and them are like, they're getting white genocided, they're getting their land stolen.

And so their solution to it is just like, well, let's just bring them to America. It's like, they don't, what are they, if you think that, wouldn't you want to keep them there and redo apartheid? Yeah, well here's my question. Did Elon get in there and here and was like listen, it's a horrible situation back home hundred percent Because there was that thing this week where

People were like every time that they would ask grok about anything on Twitter it would like It would say like I don't understand the query like this this isn't related to white genocide it's like it and then someone had asked it like why are you talking about white genocide it was like I was programmed by AI X whatever to talk about white genocide or something like that yeah am I getting this wrong? It was yeah, I saw that going around where it was just everything was like Yeah, it was just like geared toward

That's such a weird time God damn it. You don't like it. No, I'm having fun. You don't like the time we're living in? No, it's no good. No good. Yeah, I saw the grog thing. Well, let me ask you a question. If you were back home and you were just a, I don't know, a mild mannered business owner and these guys from this other party came around and started singing something called Shoot the bow or mm-hmm would you be a little would I be like would you be a little

like maybe I should go to America no because I'm not a bore that's true first they came for the bar what are they talking about boards like Bo are at E like just boring people the boars the boars. Shoot the boars, yeah. You guys got this all wrong. We're just against boring people. We're against boring people. Yeah, you heard the song wrong. Boars, B-O-R-E-S, Neil's boar.

Wait, I just put this together. Doesn't Elon have a company called Boring? Yeah. Whoa. Was that like this whole time, like it was a subtle nod or gesture to white genocide? I never put that together until now. Boring, I guess boring tunnels,

I guess is the literal translation, but maybe it's like one of those double entendres. Was that, is that what Boring does is they'd make tunnels? Yeah, that was the tunnel company. Well, they also made that flamethrower during the pandemic, if you remember. Yeah, the boring company. Elon's like, the pandemic will be over by April of 2020.

I love that their headquarters are in Bastrop, Bastrop, Texas. That's really strange. It's outside of Austin. Bastrop seems like one of those places where you send your credit card bill payment to. Yeah. Yeah. Or you subscribe to a magazine that comes from there I love how Elon met manages to take all the cool things and make it bad like space travel

Potentially cool cool made it suck tunnels. I love tunnels You do and tunnels and allegations tunnels and out like tunnels and out You do and tunnels and allegations tunnels and alligators tunnels and out Reversed in them first and out I'm so well versed in allegations. Yeah Yeah, no we're getting bores In America, what do you think that's gonna do to the social makeup social fabric of America if we get a lot of africaners who really really hate black people well they've come to the right place mm-hmm you know that's true

I have to say that that's true what if you were from just a people that were just constantly repatriated like that, but because you're racist Nobody wants you. Yeah, it's like nobody wants you for like generations like didn't aren't the African is like sort of the Rhodesians that after that whole project sort of fell apart. I'm pretty sure the African arts have been there since like the six sort of fell apart. I'm pretty sure the Afrikaners have been there since like the 6, 1700s. Oh, okay. So they were like OG like.

They were like Dutch colonists. You're right, right, right. Dutch settlers. Yeah. Uh-huh. That's why they all got those freaky names like Deontwoerd, Osound. I think Rhodesia was also Dutch and English.

Yeah, but actually. I don't know. Yeah. Don't ask me, man. Okay. I just know that their heaps excited. Heaps excited. Heaps excited to go to them.

To go and be white. Yeah. Dude. Yeah, dude. What would it be like if your father was right on Paul? Because I guess what made me wonder that is like, if you're a leftist, it's pretty easy to imagine like instilling values in your child like Because they're common values like take care of one another Rich people and greed is bad people should be equal and stuff like that. That's pretty consistent with like a kind of

Christian worldview, right Even though Christians don't really teach that Right, but like what is what do you do if you're a libertarian and you're trying to keep teach a Libertarian contrarian would that be even crazier? What if you're a libertarian contrarian? That's kind of what they've bred over there in Texas with those to that family. You're like look That's kind of what they've bred over there in Texas with that family. You're like, look, never pay taxes and always argue. Always argue.

Doesn't matter what they say, have an argument the opposite way. Always argue. Always argue. Always pick an argument full of holes. What ever happened to Ron Pasa? Remember he had a stroke on TV and then just kind of, what happened after that? Is he still around? Yeah, he's still alive, but he's probably very incapacitated. Okay

Yeah, I didn't know what was that. I hadn't heard much from him lately. He was kind of the He was kind of the Bernie s character of his day, you know Hmm, but if like your friends like came from a Republican family Yeah, like if you started off life like very arch conservative, right? Yeah, like if you started off life like very arch conservative right? Ron Paul was your dude in 2008. He was your Bernie Yeah, okay Actually this gets into it this kind of gets into what I was saying like how do you raise your child in the tenets of? libertarianism because basically you would be saying like in this house we believe the Federal Reserve should not exist compound fractional banking or

fractional banking system or whatever state banks should not be able to issue their own currency like you know what i'm saying like we need to get on the gold standard we believe in the gold standard in this house but dad why would we crucify the economy on the gold stage shut up son we believe what we believe like how does an eight-year-old like comprehend like federal reserve is bad well here's what you get you get Gary Johnson's you get people just wholly just like moronic mm-hmm I'm sorry I don't mean to besmirch your former governor like that but my man was not what one would call an example of excellence well what was

it like growing up under the Gary Johnson administration? I Don't remember much about it. I did meet his predecessor Bill Richardson. No, Bill Richardson was his successor Okay, his predecessor was this guy named King. I can't remember his first name He came to my elementary school and there's a paper. There's a picture of me on the front page of the hops New Sun shaking his hand in front of the flight pool. Really? I was like seven years old. What was he a Republican? No he's a Democrat. Okay. New Mexico is weird. It often goes back and forth between Republican Democrat and Republican Democrat. Interesting. So it wouldn't be damning for that photo to resurface years later. No. Okay. Look at this little idiot shaking hands with a monster.

Gary Johnson's hand. Yeah. My name's Gary Johnson. In this house we believe that Keynesianism's dead ends. Well, remember the Gary Johnson, his big gaffe when he said, remember when Aleppo was in the news and he was like, what's Aleppo? Yeah, I remember that. That was the beginning of the end for that campaign. Well. That's true. Also the fact he'd ride his bicycle to small businesses

and ask for the vote. That was. He was quaint. He was quaint, yeah. He was quaint. Yeah was quaint, yeah. He was quaint. Yeah, speaking of Syria, I see Trump shaking hands with the new president of his former al-Qaeda guy.

I did see that, yeah. What do you think about that? What do you think about stepping onto the world stage with a checkered past? I think we just need to kinda. No, everybody deserves a second chance Tom. Yeah That's true. You think the Saudis is like well, listen, we own the PGA tour now. Mm-hmm our guy here He's good, right? I saw Trump falling asleep in a meeting with the Saudis

I'll be a fell asleep this week. A lot of people did Yeah How it is a lot of people fell asleep this week a lot of people did Yeah Literally who else fell asleep this way some Utah congressman and some Woman senator, I think there's a sleep epidemic. Yeah, thanks. I and then in DC Yeah, well, they had an all-night ways and means committee meeting That's arrested. That's I in fairness. it seems like a snoozer. That's true. That'd be a cool political thriller. Like what if there was a sleep epidemic in the halls of power? They were all asleep at the job. Check it out. It's a meeting so boring.

Whoever like, whoever stays awake through the whole thing. It's like a reverse dance marathon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoever stays awake through the whole shit, they get their way. They get to decide. That'd be so tight. They get to decide the ways and the means.

I never understood what that was. No clue. Ways and means? No clue. In my head, I always fucked it up. I'd say maize and weens. Maze and weens? Maze and weens. Talk talk about weens some yesterday, too

You bring up all the hits in the last Forty now who'd you talk about wean with Melanie? Oh, okay Do you like Wayne? Yeah, like Wayne did you weens good? Do you like promise? No, I mean I can never sink my teeth and never get into that. Yeah, there was race car driver No play. I drove the god What you like that song actually kind of did like that's the only problem I know he has only promise on you like promise one of those bands like you really respect to the craft It just wasn't for you. Yeah, I had um two other songs on

my lime wire with a mix download or whatever yeah Jerry was a race car driver and what was the other song that is Jerry was a race car drivers that one with the seven layer burrito reference is that a different I just remember the burrito song Uh-huh They had my name is mud okay John the fisherman why known as John the fisherman they had why known as big brown beaver That's the seven layer burrito song. I'm sure it was sure they also had a song called little Lord fentanyl with Pusifer of Main dreams Jim JK side project that actually literally just came out last week They also had a song called little Lord fentanyl with Pussifer of

Major James Jim J K side project that actually literally just came out last week So they they oh no, that's unholy that they do They do collaborate from time to time. I'm gonna tell you something. I think I think from what I understand I Couldn't really know about this right because I've never been proficient at an instrument really. Yeah, but There are guys like MJK and like What's the dude's name less claypool less claypool? Yeah, promise better like virtuosic, but somehow managed to make the worst music you've ever heard

managed to make the worst music you've ever heard. Inway Momstein was another example. Inway Momstein, yeah. Yeah, well I read this article of Johnny Marr from Smiths kind of railing against that stuff. You know, it's like, actually you can be too good at your instrument. It makes everything suck ass. That's true. That's also true for just history and like intellectualism. I know some guys that are just too smart,

like they can't actually even. All brains, not enough cock and balls. Not enough cock and balls. Like they can't actually get into like any sort of, and maybe I'm guilty of this too sometimes. You're doing a little self-creation. I'm doing a little self-creation. Like everything that the left does is wrong.

And for X, Y, and Z, because they know every single thing. like everything that the left does is wrong and X Y & Z because they know every single thing. It's like okay. Well Is that why you're moving toward a more physical culture look at my bicep fucking veins Look at what I'm trying to get there's guys that tried to get that for years and you've just got it Right out of the gate. You know my secret? What? I don't even try to like... Pre-workout? No. Jacked fuel? Definitely not pre-workout. I don't fuck with pre-workout. Really? No. Just go right into it. Just go right into it. Damn. I mean I do smoke a bunch of weed laced with K2 spice. Spice? And a bunch of of so your pre-workout is gas station drug Smoke a lot in salvia. I smoke a lot of salvia and antifreeze before I

Results speak for themselves. Yeah, but I don't I don't really like I Don't really like pay attention to gains like in the sense like I don't really pay attention to like what my Binge press number is or like no, I just like do whatever feels good. Just go in there and do it You can't no not that you don't go to failure No, I don't do that. I'm not trying to like become... Keep a couple reps in the bank I keep I always keep a couple reps in the bank. Yeah, that's good for hypertrophy By good do you mean bad? No, no, that is good. Hypertrophy is bad though, right? No, hypertrophy is good That's what makes your muscles grow. Oh, okay

What was the uh? Hypotrophy. Who are you to wave your finger? Who are you to fry this french fry? Is that the new Pusifer? That's Tool. Is that Tool? That's Maynard. Is it?

Yeah. Hit me if they- you know, I'll be honest with you This is like one of those reaction videos like man hears tool for the first time. Man hears tool for the first time They always had those weird drums Okay, I'm gonna tell you my first impression. You've never heard? Okay. Hold on a second. I guess I'd always consider them sort of in the... Okay, I have to admit this part goes hard. Okay, let me hear it. Listen. All right, wait for it Tom What do you think about that well So I'd always kind of put I always thought of them as the thinking man's new metal

Uh-huh or and I was always we kind of put off by that idea Uh-huh, you know what I mean? Cuz I like Rob's on being stuff like that. I mean, but I always kind of put off by that idea. You know what I mean? Because I like Rob Zombie and stuff like that. But I always kind of thought of them as like, if you took the wizard rock of the 70s and merged it with new metal. Ooh, you're talking about like prog rock. Well, like if you had like pre T-Rex,

Tyrannosaurus Rex aesthetics, Uriheap aesthetics aesthetics emerged it with new metal Yeah, that's what I'm imagining. What do I rerun things of new metal like tool? I'd love to know I'd love to know Let's get him on the whole let's see if he's I wonder if he has an opinion on tool You must have been your prices were so high You must have been your prices were so high Hey rey, hey bobby i had a question for you. Wait man. Do you know the band tool? Do what do you know the band's tool?

Tool yeah Do you know the band tool? Okay, well I was just I was just curious if you if you had any opinions on metal music particularly new metal but I'll tell you man, man, now this guy was talking about, it's called the band Feel. The band what? Feel. Feel? F-E-L-L. A band Feel. Okay. F-E-L-L.

Bobby Kogler was playing something like that. Hey, that's good. They have good music. Yeah? Yeah. The band Phil. Okay. I'm going to have to give them a spin here. You got anything else for us? Oh, no, about your hank. Okay.

Now if I knew, you know how to get in touch with me, I can't call you because I got long dead. Okay. That's all right. Well, listen. You have to call me. I will. I will holler at you, okay? See man And no thoughts on tool a shot that damn free for two is I don't know nothing about That's probably for the best uh-huh we should record outside it's so hot in here It is a little I actually floated that in my head. I was like now you won't want to record outside

So it'd be better probably help the riffing a little bit. Oh, yeah, I am is sweltering in here you wanna move outside I don't know All right, we're gonna start from the top. We're outside now. We recorded 30 minutes and I got in trouble. I got in trouble for making fun of someone I shouldn't have made fun of. He's learned from his mistake. That person he was making fun of. My Uncle Reera. No no I would never make fun of him I made fun of a popular entertainer who let's just say his name

sounds very much like a popular economist mid 20th century Now we're shirtless we're outside Recording outdoors reject and no rejected new this is like this is field recording at its finest Terrence looks like he's getting a cut his arm off to save his own life because of a hiking accident Guy wandering the desert. Your shirt tied into a bandana. Let's see what I'm what do I look like right now? Dude that is such a good fucking look. at this here post that picture. That's the album art right here Damn All right, so we're filled recording. So what were the good rips we had before we had this before we lost it all We had rerun on the record on tool

Sorry, that's been wiped but... Completely dismissive of Tool. Had nothing good to say. In fact, had barely heard of him. Had barely heard of him, right. He wasn't even remotely interested. He did recommend a band called the Band Feel. I licked it up. It's pretty bad. Is it bad? No, it's not good.

Is it a rare rerun miss? Well, it's like. Actually, there's some reruns missed on a few bands for me. What's that band that's really popular right now? They, they sent, like their lead singer sounds like Led Zeppelin. Benson Boone. Yes, Benson Boone.

Greta Van Vliet. That's the one I was thinking of. Why do I think I really have a false notion that Benson Boone is in Greta Van Vliet? Two very different things, aren't they? Well okay, the funny thing to me is if you're gonna try to recreate Led Zeppelin, you gotta be packing a monster cock Yeah, does the grant of the plant van fleet guy what weren't they doing the zucchini prosthesis? No, dude, that was Robert plants. I was real hogs a real hog British premier Jimmy British premier Jimmy Page definitely was not packing

definitely was not packing a hug. Zucchini Press, please. Bobby! I don't even think he pretended to have a zucchini press. This is who I am. This is who I am. Now I'm the Prime Minister of England. Yeah. He's like, if they think I've got a real big one down there, they're gonna wanna see it. But like this, I can just pull it through my hole, am I? Like Jimmy Page from, premier Jimmy Page is the only guy in the world who pulls his penis through the hole in the underwear. What is that for? Seriously, what is that for? I think it's for guys, well, when they was made, we used to be all about efficiency in this country, okay?

We're not about efficiency anymore. Where we would we go wrong or right in your opinion here when when It became popular for dudes to pull their entire pants down and their underwear down and pee well It's just so much easier just to just pull the whole shit now Well, it's just so much easier just to just pull the whole shit now To like it is it takes effort to loop it through the old briefs hole Yeah, I'm not talking about the boxers even though that it requires. I do it a button I have to say I have to say the constant the Just thinking about pulling it through the briefs hole and then through the zipper

Like dude, you're much can go wrong dude yeah but like yeah exactly you're putting you're basically it's like putting your head through a guillotine like just for fun just for like haha like imagine putting your head through a guillotine like hey get a picture of me hey Bobby look I'm going to get and then it just dropped and then it just drops yeah cuz you know how like when you cut your head off there's still... I think that's what Einstein called spooky action at a distance. You can still talk for like three seconds after your head gets cut off.

Because the signals haven't stopped changing. Oh fuck, I got my head on! Dude, it's like that but with your penis. You're pulling it through a guillotine essentially. You're right, it is. That must have been, I wonder if it coincided at all with the rise in popularity of circumcision. Which is now, I read something the other day that says they're going back on that. They say it was a bad decision we made

To mutilate our boys for decades. It was there's no purpose There's no purpose robs them of 20% of their pleasure. So what I've been told dude, that's true. We've been robbed. I do feel robbed. Yeah, I Will say this it does help you have insane dick control because you can't ever feel anything. It's just like permanently fucking with a condom. Yeah it is. It is literally. Maybe that's why they did that. They wanted higher birth rates so they circumcised this would be less likely to fuck with condoms so that we'd be more likely to procreate. Yeah think about that if you're circumcised and you're using condoms still. First of all, what are you, 13? But second of all. Damn, I'm gonna get sunburned out here. This is like right at the beach.

Oh, this feels great. Yeah, I wonder if the, let's look it up. Where and when did they come up with the underwear hole? It's a, okay, let's talk about this for a second though. Can you name other things like the briefs underwear hole that like are just like obsolete engineering? Pleats have come back on pants. You know what I mean? Like as a sort of a fashion statement,

but I think pleats started as like good engineering. Yeah, like a windshield. But then it made you look like you have like a Donald Trump style. True. Fupa. A fuka. A fuka? Yeah. What's that?

Fat upper cock area. Like you got like a diaper full, you know? Some guys pull it off great, other guys just... A fat upper cock area. That'd be crazy. If like your penis started out really tiny but like widened into a huge V. I've seen things like that happen. I've seen unspeakable things happen.

Jesus. Man, I need a... Hold on a second. I need one of them rockers. I can't... I've seen unspeakable things Jesus I'm a second. I need one of them rockers. I can't I'll be right back. Okay, go grab a rocker Yeah, I don't know how long we can do this in the sun because I'm not as dark as you are you're fucking How'd you get so tan? You've been sitting out here every day see I'm Yeah, I try to do that but... One of my favorite like vestigial organs of American racism is when people think that your ability to suntan has something to do

with your ethnicity. You're right dude. Oh you must be brown because you have a Cuban grandmother. That's what it is. Well actually I'm just spending time in the sun. Actually? Just go outside. The Y-front fly in men's underwear, often referred to as the briefs underwear hole, was invented in 1935 by Arthur Kniebler at Cooper's Inc. Cooper's, which later became Jockey International, introduced the first brief introduced the first briefs with jockey jockey brought it on the market

Yep, dubbing them jockey shorts the why front fly was inspired by mint French men swimwear and was designed for quick access So wait, you're telling me that French men swam with a hole in the front. That is so French That's the most finish that you can imagine. I just got pull my winger out. I just got out of the pool. I must fuck right now. I'm currently reading that David Foster Wallace collection on his tennis writing. And I learned today that tennis, tennis, tennis, I don't know how to say it in French,

tene, tene, probably, is French for here it comes. And then I just can't get the image out of, of like, grubby French dudes saying, Teney, Teney. While they're fucking? Yeah, in the bathroom. As they're about to come? Yeah. Teneyus. I'll pull my penis through this little hole. Through this little keyhole. In America they say, um, how do you say jockey shorts?

Through this little keyhole. Through this little keyhole. It's a little keyhole. I'll tell you another one like that. Button fly jeans. The 501 by Levi's is a classic about who's got time to undo six buttons and take a piss. That's fucking nuts. But then again, probably an argument to be made about stopping and smelling the roses, you know?

Well, true. I mean, girls have to have the romper, and they have to undo the whole thing and get naked. You just have to get nude every time you use the bathroom. It's just. Yeah. They should do a little y-hole in the romper. You can put your pussy through it and just loop it through there.

I'm heaps excited to pee out of my vagina. Heaps excited to pee out of my vagina. Hapes excited to pee out of my vagina. Us? Hapes good engineering. Hapes good engineering. Finally a romper for us. Hapes finally a garment for us. Dude that's crazy why would they have the white hole in swimwear? It's like I got to swim really fast but but like you want to pull it out while you're swimming is that what it was? It's cool. It creates drag it creates drug Jockey briefs were introduced to the UK in 1938 and were a success

Jockey briefs were introduced to the UK in 1938 and were a success. The Y front ply provides quick access and is also believed to offer some breathability. I mean, I guess I can maybe see that. Well, listen, I wear briefs. You could easily do that though. You could easily do that though with, you know, those sunglasses Kanye used to wear with like the slit shades? You could just do that if you wanted breathability. Slit shades underwear? On a slit shade underwear. On a slit shade underwear. Interesting concept.

You don't like the concept? I just don't know how it'd work. You float some things sometimes that I respect your vision. In my mind I'm like, what would that look like? That's not. I'm not saying you're not an innovator. Look, I get the ideas out there everybody else needs to make them heads up to the rest of the rest

exactly that's true exactly what are some other vestigial products and I tell you I was thinking like the windshield like we don't need windshields anymore right because there's no bugs anymore that's true that's true no bugs just win now just win I'm good I'm gonna get on my sub box for a second I've got a little pet yeah project that maybe wants some take on well funny that you're going for the sunscreen because that's where exactly where I was taking this okay let's hear it anything after SPF 30 is a racket why you say that well I've just learned a little

something here. Okay 15 is the baseline for like a standard of protection against melanomas, carcinogenic, basal cell, squamous, the skin cancer. Oh yeah yeah and just burning in general. Burning is not pleasant. I'm applying it right now. I'm applying it right now I'm applying it right now now. That's a place. They love their SPF there, okay, okay? So if you see anything higher than SPF 30 it's almost like Thread count on sheets you know anything over 500 is bullshit because you can't actually get more than 500 stitches in a square inch of fabric. Okay.

So what they'll do is they'll put one of those and stitch it to another one, call it a thousand thread count. But you're only in contact with 500 threads of it. See, okay, this is what I was thinking, Link. Couldn't you apply 25 SPF sunscreen twice and get 50 SPF? You would think, but here's this. Here's what they, hold on a second.

No, it doesn't work like that. No, it doesn't. Here's how, and listen, if anybody out there is a dermatologist, feel free to correct me here. But 15 offers like 80 something percent protection against like the damaging rays, like the cancer causing rays, okay? Yeah, gamma and then they usually just go up in increments of like Five or ten or fifteen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So by the time you get to like SPF

30 You're getting like Well, what do you, that's adequate protection? It doesn't feel adequate at all. I just sprayed it very loosely on my face. And I definitely got it all over my microphone and earphones. Well, it's 7% homo salate, so. Seems like you picked the right one.

Oh no, I picked the homo salates. So 30 gets you up into the 90s, and then when you get to like 45 or 50 It's just diminishing returns. It's minute jumps every like 5 SPF. Okay, so you're saying like basically 30 is like you're not getting you're not getting that much more protection at 50 than you are 30 It's inconsequential But there is a jump from 15 to 30 but you're also skipping out on a bitch in 10. I don't know man I'm gonna get fucked up out here. You think so? If we stay out in the sun for like three more minutes. What if it wasn't our choice? What

if it wasn't our choice? What if we were traversing the desert right now? Would you be cracking like this? I would be cracking like this. Would you, even as a desert dweller? Even as a desert dweller. That's why I've got this, this is a desert innovation, what I've got in my head right now. This is what we do in the desert when you've got a bald spot that you need to protect. That's true, that's true.

You don't have a hat available. You turn your clothes into a hijab. A lot of people, a hidden cause of melanoma is not hitting that little thin part in the crown. Yeah. A lot of people underestimate how thin they are back there. That's true. I got sunburned up there for the first time a few weeks ago.

Yeah, it was a rude awakening. It was a rude awakening. I had the same thing happen to me. I just never paid attention to it. And then one day I took a mirror selfie backwards and I was aghast at what I saw. Why didn't you tell me ever? You didn't want to break it to me?

I tried, you weren't ready to hear it. I've tried multiple times. It actually makes a lot of sense that you don't remember. I wasn't receptive to the truth. You weren't receptive to it. I tried to tell you. I sat you down even multiple times,

I was like, we need to have a talk. About that crown. About that crown. I was like, heavy's the head, no, no, no, no. No, it's not a time to joke. No, nothing to do with royalty. No, you're not royalty. Fact, quite the opposite.

Uh-huh. What are other technological things that are vestigial and out of use? Gel pens? You don't do gel pens anymore? What's the main form of pen now? Rollerball. I write so infrequently. I do love a rollerball. I love a pilot v7 I roll I fucking write all the time. Yeah, I only write really With hand with hand yeah in fact It's kind of a prison Really it's kind of become a prison my entire house is filled with paper say more about that I have just I just write down so much on paper and I can't throw it away. Here's the bright

side of that. When you die you'll be a guy that had papers. Me? Very little papers. You want it when you die when you depart this mortal coil you definitely want to be a man that had papers. That's true I think you're right. And you preferably want those papers to be featured in some sort of library. Mm-hmm the Richard Nixon library. The Richard Nixon library, the Ronald Reagan library would be a good landing spot for your papers. Mm-hmm perhaps even the Eisenhower Presidential Library. On UT campus we had the Lyndon B. Johnson Lyndon Baines Johnson library what's interesting about that is Lyndon Baines Johnson despite being a teacher

does not strike me as a man with a lot of papers uh-huh it's probably cuz he was a hillbilly yeah doesn't seem like he did sketch a lot though like draw yeah he drew there's like his sketches that's his entire library a lot of people don't know that that picture going around attributed to Richard Engels of the... Busty woman. Busty woman with the... That's the LBJ?

That's LBJ. God, that breeze feels so good. Isn't that nice? Man, this is the thing about podcasting outside, and this is true about life in general, is you're more susceptible, you're more vulnerable to the elements. So just now, we were podcasting for about 10 minutes there

and I started to black out a little bit. I was getting a little too hot and I started to sweat and I was like, yeah, I think I'm done for. I think I'm done. I love what the Lord's given us, overcast. I think I'm gonna have to go down to the ground. What'd you think about? And then the wind picked up.

And I thought, well, you know what? Maybe it's not so bad after all. What'd you think about Bob Dylan mistaken a guy from after hours for being in a German gay movie? I loved it in the gay movies. Bob that wasn't me. You were fantastic. Damn it. Damn it. In this house we believe in federal reserves. The federal reserves. That's what we were talking about.

We were talking about how do you raise a young libertarian in this climate? This is my brother, federal reserve. Federal. It's Frederick, short for Federal Reserve, Paul. Paul. FRP. I love him.

I love federal. He's my homeboy. Can't even see how long we've recorded because the sun is too bright. This is another example of how the elements will change your relationship to the medium. You gotta go off field. You'll know when it's been an hour. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right. It'll be when I finish this Americano You have where you get that from the human being? No, or do you get how you got from that one shot Christian coffee Christian steampunk coffee shop? Yeah, that's a crazy combo Christian steampunk Yeah, I kind of respect it. Actually. I kind of like the vision because so much of Christian aesthetic is

because so much of Christian aesthetic is lots of, and we talked about this on the episode last week, but it's like a lot of wood. Like they're trying to basically recreate ancient times, but through a modern, subliterate, low IQ angle. Yesterday I was at a doctor's office and the art in there had art that could only be described as wine mom surrealism or wine mom dadaism.

Really? Yeah, so like I'm saying there are still cutting edge art movements. There's wine mom dadaism really yeah, so like I'm saying there are still cutting-edge art movements There's wine mom Dadaism. There's Christian steampunk Those are two ones off the top of my head so basically in order to be Sort of push the envelope a bit these days you have to commit to a worldview and Filter it through an art movement that already exists yes, okay? Yeah, I don't know't know what you cost a punk and art movement I don't know what you call stay well call it a poor aesthetic choice

It could be cool Well, you know was it Gaddafi's son as a steampunk guy. Is it? Yeah, I think they showed him Probably studying his father's papers in the library, in a university somewhere, and he was dressed up like, looked like a Batman villain. I can't wait for my kids to study my papers. I mean, there's not gonna be much in them, except here's what I do when we record with me and Aaron, and whoever, a guest or whatever.

I usually sit there with a notepad, and I'll write down something that somebody says over and over and over again as if I was Howard Hughes and I was obsessed with it from an OCD type way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I look. So I'll look over there and say, I'll work and no play makes Terry a dull boy.

Yes, and I'm writing it down. Right next to some doodles, sketches of a completely deranged stoned Bart Simpson or something you know I like to sketch like that Yeah, that kind of stuff we did we did me and Sam Walman did one time draw Deranged ship tanker that turned into a guy with a top hat on one time. Oh that was, I forgot about that.

That was a fun little experiment. That was a fun experiment. It started as one thing and just became something else. It was like the ship of Theseus. Yeah. What do you know about the ship of Theseus? Mm-mm. First time hearing of it.

Ha ha ha. First time hearing of it, huh? No clue. No clue who Theseus is. No clue he had a ship. Or they had a ship. It's an ancient philosophical experiment which says if you take a ship

and you replace every single one of its parts over time, piece by piece, once you're finished, is it still the same ship? Oh, okay. See what I'm saying? Yeah. Every human being is kind of a ship of Theseus because all of our cells die and reproduce

Right. We're kind of all piecemeal by design. We're piecemeal. We're not none of us have the same cells I guess unless you're a woman and you have your eggs You are born with the eggs. Yeah that you have which means that your grandmother had you inside of her It means your grandmother had your eggs inside of her and her great grandmother had her eggs inside of her. Going all the way back to Eve, the first. To Theseus. First of all. Yeah, first of all.

Men, men are more crude. We're just kind of simulacra of the original. You know, and I think that's, you're getting at something that's, contributes to the male loneliness epidemic. We're so damn replaceable. We are very replaceable. We are.

We're so replaceable. I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're the goddamn pied piper of Hamlin. At some point, you're just going to be a distant memory. Women are, they are the original. Perhaps I shouldn't have used a child molester as a... Hahaha! Lead children into caves with a flute. Look, there's an interpretation of the Pied Piper story where he wasn't going to take them to molest them.

That's true, that's true, but he's very molester-coded. Well, yeah, but there is another version where he was just going to go and show them... The Michael Jackson defense. The wacko jacko defense. The wacko jacko defense. I remember Martin Bashir asked Michael Jackson is it all right to share a bed with children that weren't his, he said, it's very right.

Michael Jackson said that? Yeah, and wacko jacko said it's very right. I don't know about that. Ha ha ha ha. Point being. It's kind of of weird thing for a man to say that has no allegations tab, you know Michael Jackson Yeah, it definitely doesn't have any allegations Point being women are the original blueprint men are just simulacra of a simulacra You know we are we're tools. We're tools. We're always drifting away from the original. We're not the main event man. Yeah

All right. Well, well, I'm hot. Are you huh? You want to move to the shade? Can we move to the shade or is there gonna be more bugs in the shade? Hard to say Let's move it. All right. Let's miss we don't even can we come back for our chairs? All right This is so funny like we we're actually connected to each other. Yeah, this is like a wheelbarrow race. This is, woah. I've never done anything like this before. Damn.

Damn. Alright, I'll be back with the chair for you. I've never done anything like this. Hey, bring my coffee and my NA beverage. Oh man. In the meantime, I'll get some audio footage of the outdoor. Damn. Bring another chair. I Can take my turban off now your bone under this so it doesn't blow up. Damn man it's all over here.

If you take a look over there you'll notice there's a dead oak tree with a family of corvids living it right here. Boom, above the barn. If you look to the ground you'll notice that I left them some berries the other day. I see that. Tried to make contact. I think they've eaten them all. I think they did. I think they liked the berries. I think they're not sold on my friendship yet.

Well, it takes a while with corvids, but look, there's one of their feathers. Yeah, that's true. Maybe he was offering me that in exchange for the berries. Oh my God. Corvids are are very bartering species it's they don't believe in fractional reserve banking mm-hmm they um or the Federal Reserve

they believe in just enough for now yeah they believe in Corvay the Corvay quid pro quo quid pro corv quiz pro I'm sorry I'm sorry They can't all be winners Well we're hot It's hot out here This is nice though Yeah this is in the shade

Now we're surrounded by bees But that's kind of cool Sitting under a holly bush Uh huh What are your thoughts on the noble holly bush? Um I don't like the pokey leaves Pokies doesn't drive me crazy

But it's kind of nice to look at. I just had some pollen get dropped on me. Did you? Yeah, right here. Are you with child now? I am with child. Yeah. It impregnated me. OK. Yeah, I have a child. I've always said if you water him, he'll bloom.

Oh, no. No, no, no. I'm going to have my mom. I'm going to have a baby. I didn't know I could do that. Oh no, no, I'm gonna have a baby. I didn't know I could do that. Oh my god. I didn't know I could do that. So before we switched outside here, there's something I had to ask you about.

That was the Donald Trump rubbing elbows with the new Syrian president. Yeah. Taken over for the ousted Bashar al-Assad. Yeah. Former al-Qaeda guy. What's your hit on that? I can't tell you an early impression I have. You seem to want to talk about it more not do I believe in restorative justice I

think that I Don't care what criminal and or terror syndicate you were affiliated with in a previous life if you get a haircut Shape up fly right. I think you can sort of high-heights again. That's true It's very magnanimous of you. What's that guy's name? El Sana. El Sana? It's hotter than El Sana.

Hey, what's up man, El Sana. This my Tio, man. He's like running Syria now or something. He's like running the whole damn country now. Hey bro, everybody thinks we're Syrian, bro. No, bro. Mattheo, he came over and Sicario too. Pretending to be a radical Muslim. They got this mariachi band there and he comes in place for him.

It's what it's like to be a king, bro. It's so good, bro. The guy he took over for, bro, bad news, bro. It's like chemical weapons on his own people bro. He used to drop these barrel bombs but like inside of them was like, it was like a pinata. It was like a lot of candy in those barrel bombs bro. But instead of candy it was pathogens. Methamphetamines and pathogens. Methamphetamines what if man?

Alexander Avina suggested this to me Bob Dylan plus trolo Missing fit means I'll actually in the game movie, bro. I like you in the gay movie bro. I like you in the gay movie. I can't now. It's hard to do that. That's close. It's hard to merge though.

You just sound like Cartman when you merge. I like you in the gay movie. Or maybe it's just Bob Dylan but all of his cultural interests are just like mariachi music carito music uh-huh you know hey baby I'm on a roll. Fucking A. Now I've got like, I've got creamy arm pits from the sunscreen. That's okay. It's creamy. You can fuck that.

You can fuck the crease of your arm. Fuck the crease of my arm. Man, I'm getting pollinated too. Look at this. Well, that makes sense. There's a lot of bees flying around. Little dabs of yellow. Yeah, we're just, we're moving out of the sun. I'm getting pollinated to look at this. Well that makes sense. There's a lot of bees flying around Yeah, we're just we're moving out of the Sun. I'm just you're imperiled by the Sun. I'm allergic to bees We're just so damn minefield out there. That's pretty cool though. Yeah

Look at these guys. What you guys doing out here? I just get so paranoid about being in the Sun for too long Yeah, I really do it's the older. I've gotten like I've gotten really in the sun for too long. I really do. The older I've gotten, I've gotten really nervous about it. Are you worried about skin aging? You worried about melanoma? I'm not worried about aging, but I am worried about melanoma.

I don't wanna get skin cancer. No. I really don't. I always worry about it being somewhere where you can't see. You know? Yeah. And you know it's like spinach in your teeth. Somebody sees a grotesque growth on

you. They're not going to tell you about it. Look at that bird. Whoa. Hey buddy. He's a pollinator too. Look at him. He's just, he was really, I don't know what that was, um, a warbler? I'm just kidding. That's not what it was. Is he enjoying the berries? Like those were for the corvids, but you're welcome to some if there's any left over. left over I think he was hunting for bugs. Oh, no, he's hunting. See he's he's infringing on their territory. They don't like that No, they don't no, I like how like the the The corvids have just taken over the one dead tree in the yarn very on brand. Yeah, there's that's cuz they Like the corvid kingdom They like to make it known when you come to the city walls, to the city gates, like what you're signing up for.

Braiding your belly hair? I'm braiding my belly. What did you call this earlier? Scooby trail. Scooby trail. I hate that. I hate even saying that. That's disgusting.

Why would they say that? I don't know. It's the first time I've ever even heard of it. That's disgusting. I hate that Damn Damn oh my god I'm a Corvette and I'm fucked up No fucked up on these berries. I'm fucked up on berries. These berries been sitting out a few days. Oh my god

I'm so fucked up Fucking A. What else is there to talk about David Hogg got got David Hogg got ousted from the DNC. Yeah, what'd you think that? Probably a bad sign wouldn't you imagine that I think it's I think he didn't show enough respect You think so little bastard needs to be put in his place. That is true, man. He got out of pocket because his last name is Hog. He thought he could do anything. Well, also too. I mean, you can only ride on that survive the school shooting thing for so long.

Okay. You had a new trick, Dave. Yeah, you survived an American form of domestic terrorism visit upon our children daily. Move on. I mean, I would like a school shooting survivor who like lost an eye in the process. But like, you know, that's not true. I would like a school shooting survivor.

This is what I would like to order up. You're like Trump with war guys, like army guys. Like I like my school shooting survivors to have like one. Yeah, no, no, no, that's not it. What I want is dudes don't go on odysseys anymore. You know? one is dudes don't go on odysseys anymore. You know? Now you've stumbled into a little something about my world view I've been thinking about.

I would like a school shooting survivor who survives a school shooting and then as a result has to go on an epic quest and gets in a boat and goes out to sea and encounters a siren and gets a buddy. Whoa get several sirens They sing songs to them. Listen, you're powerless at that point. If there's more than one you're cooked Oh, I know one you can okay. Look, I'm I know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna take the bait here She's gonna rip me apart Not doing this, but if there's three,

it's like, well, maybe one of them is good. Or maybe. That's the thing, they sing their song and it's overpowering. Okay? So you encounter the siren's song and you get seduced by them and then the siren steals all your money

and she's leaned out. The siren sings a leaned out song sure Hey, what's going on? Debbie hard come on with mom and David come on the bar and We'll have some fun David And you know, you know, I mean fun, but it's just the chance that you mind leaned out siren leaned out siren What's the oh my god, what's the uh it's In Lost Highway. I seem to find it. Song of the Siren, this mortal coil that Jeff Buckley's dad I guess originally couldn't. Oh right. How's that go? Uh. Did all

Did all my best to smile. Like the siren is singing that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This mortal coil on an island? The song of the siren is the song the siren is singing. Okay, so let's, all right, so David Hogg, he's in a school shooting. To escape the school shooting, he runs off to the port, hops in a boat, he's out at sea.

He comes to an island where there's three really leaned out sirens singing this mortal You're right though man not doing quests anymore not doing no anything like that and he falls asleep They steal his money what little money he has in his clothes What else does the what else does Odysseus encounter the Cyclops? Cyclops I would like a school shooting survivor who encounters some leaned out sirens and then has to battle a Cyclops But like what's what is it with the Cyclops? Let's see is he? It's a John Fetterman again John Fetterman. That's the only way

It's a John Fetterman again. John Fetterman, that's the only way. Fetterman's the cyclist. This might seem a little uncreative on our part, but like, trust me. Topical. It is topical. So when you can't reach for anything really creative, you go with the next thing that's topical.

That's how you write a story. That's a, that's storytelling. That's storytelling. One on one. It just occurred to me that the whole point of Bo is afraid is that men don't go on quests or journeys anymore. I've still not seen that. Isn't that embarrassing? No, I mean it's fine. I think you'll get to it one of these days. I'm covered in pollen. This is dope.

Dude, I'm pollinated as fuck. Look at this shit. Yeah, it's tight. I'm covered up. I think it's pretty cool. I think we'll be irresistible to the plants and bees. That's gonna be so sick. Yeah, we're just gonna. Irresistible. Hey, we're gonna be like, pepe la pew. Come here, bees. What else does Odysseus encounter?

There's a cyclops. Siren, cyclops, banshee. Oh, a banshee. Is there a banshee? Same family as the siren. Only more just annoying. My phone's over there so I can't lick it up. So we're just gonna have to make it up I Think he also encounters. Bandits. Doesn't he go down to hell with Agamemnon

Who puts coins over his wife's eyes Clytemnestra. That's where we get the phrase Rob Nichols off a dead man's eyes. Oh interesting Yeah, somebody's like the tins to the steel. He goes down to Hades. Hey, so David Hogg He's also got that got to go down to Hades only way David cross the River Styx. Yeah, it's like Orestes He's got to the fair and I can look at talk to the ferryman to say can you shepherd me across the River Styx? I should go to Hades. It's part ofrestes, he's gonna turn back and talk to the ferryman. Say, can you shepherd me across the river Styx? I have to go to Hades, it's part of my hero's journey. I said, why are you doing this?

Because I have to be in the DNC. I have to win a Democratic primary. I have to win a Democratic primary in his life. But Plato hated democracy. Why are you doing that? No man, I'm not from Greece. Plato didn't write the Odyssey, though. That's true. He didn't. That was Homer, right?

We think. We actually don't know. Is that one of those guys that might not have existed? He might not have existed. Who were some other guys like that? AVI, Avi? AVI? Do you remember those teen books when we were younger? They AVI, Avi? AVI? Do you remember those like teen books when we were younger they were written by somebody named AVI?

Oh, I don't remember that at all. Avi? You don't remember Avi? R.L. Stine? I remember R.L. Stine. Was he real? Arguably. AVI, Avi.

The greats that are potentially, didn't exist, Homer and AVI. Homer, AVI, whoVI who else I think Jesus probably existed I think he was leaned out on the cross he was like oh my god Lord this is no good Lord if this cup could pass for me Pass from me. Actually, don't take my cup. That's all I've got. All I've got. It's my Star of Uncut.

It's...don't worry about what's in my cup. It's my cup. Barabbas, today you'll be with me in paradise. Oh man, that's pretty good. I laughed really hard at that one, but I'm also, I just might be sun sick. Come back, man, you need a captive audience. Just get a man out in the sun for 20 minutes.

That's true, he starts going soon. So anyway, so sirens Cyclops Banshee uh-huh Hades River Stokes Hades River Stokes and most importantly the whole journey is fighting himself yeah yeah that's true you know that's what happens when you go on a journey generally most aggressive opponents you'll find is your own will. I'm just saying David Hogg went into politics too early. You can't just go be in a school shooting

and just be like, I'm going into politics. You gotta do some other shit. You gotta get your dick wet. He did sell a pillow. Metaphorically. He did sell a pillow. Oh, he did try his hand at a pillow. Yeah, so basically what I'm getting at

is he survived a school shooting, tried sell a pillow and said you know what? That's a good enough CV to get into Mainstream politics then made and then and they killed him in a precious boy Look what they did look what they did to my boy They shot him for telling the truth just standing up to Jim Clyburn And I think it was pretty tepid at that right like basically What was it did he say my respects your many years of service, but you're over Jim. That's what he said No, I didn't say that. Oh, that was great. I was said it to him. Yeah I said step aside Gramps. Yeah, I'll never forgive you for kneecapping Bernie

Mm-hmm, and then Bernie would kneecap himself just five short years later. I think I saw Bakari Sellers being like, this young man needs to learn a lesson. Oh, does this in respect? Yeah, in respect. He needs to respect his elders. Bakari Sellers bend him over his knee on the Bill Maher program, spanking with a belt. Come here, Dave. Is that where David Hogg did it? Did he speak out? He was on the Bill Maher show with Donna Brazil. Remember Donna? I do. The

strategist. They were on there together. I wonder if David Hogg pulls his hog through the Y hole. I tell you why we're so behind the eight ball is The Democrats are going on Bill Maher and just like fussing amongst each other while Trump's like hanging out with former terrorists I have never these two things are not alike You know the New York Times has those like um forums with voters It was like 11 Democratic voters on where they think the Democratic party should go. And I read it this morning and I've never been more convinced that the cause of American progressivism

is cooked. It's done. How cooked is it? It's spent, brother. Like there's nothing left, it's gone. It's like when the reason I say that is because it's so incoherent and muddled like literally I don't have my phone in front of me, but they asked these voters they were like who would you like to see be the leader of the New Jim Crow party and

One of the voters was like ah This I'm not making enough. She literally said I think I've seen AOC and Bernie doing some stuff This I'm not making enough. She literally said I think I've seen AOC and Bernie doing some stuff That was just doing some stuff and then doing some stuff doing some stuff And then another one was like maybe Pete Buttigieg and then another one was like I didn't know clue I didn't really like when Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer went on a book tour after Kamala lost but you know, I mean what else you gonna do like that? I was everybody's resign. There is nothing. Nothing.

Everything from abundance to burnerism. All fucking cooked. All cooked. All the piss is gone. It's gone. I think it's spent as a historical force, basically. I ask you a question. What?

Is your right nipple bleeding? Or am I just been in the sun too long now? No, I think you've been in the sun too long. No. My right nipple's fine. Okay. Why, is anything coming out? It just looked like from my vantage point like it was red and inflamed. Perhaps you've been nursing this one. Well yeah. I do do that every I have a family of crows. Corvids. It's like, it's Prometheus. Uh huh.

Yeah, no, I think it's all cooked, brother. Well, the abundance agenda left as quick as it came. Although they're still arguing about it. Really? And still trying to convince everybody that they're not actually hostile to the left and zoning regulations are the only way to beat back Black Rock. But Black Rock's actually not that bad. I don't really understand.

Everything is so incoherent. I don't even understand what the fuck they want. We gotta beat back Black Rock, but Black Rock beating back is not so bad. That's what they're saying. Something like that. I don't even know. Beat back Black, beat back Black Rock, beat back. I'm gonna tell you something,

that's gonna cause a lot of confusion if that becomes a rallying crowd. You got something that's a little, it's catchy, but it's just gonna result in a lot of beep, beep, beep black back rock, you know? You're right. Too harsh, too much of a tongue twister. Yeah, you're so right.

I've tried to tell them that, but they won't listen to me. I think it's just a Love Jim the gay movie I don't know man. I think that um, I think David Hogg should resign from politics And what's Dave Seeling you think I? resigned from politics and what's Dave Seeling you think I want to see him you know do something that's just a dumbass I would do only fans David's hog so easy yeah yes it is I said is the low-hanging fruit sure today a pillow he was out of his element he's not insane enough to be a

pillow guy no you're right I can't even tell how long we recorded looks like Short of that, yeah, Pillow, he was out of his element. He's not insane enough to be a Pillow guy. No, you're right. I can't even tell how long we recorded. Looks like maybe 47 minutes, maybe. Maybe. Okay, so. Maybe. Can you remember, I need you to deep pull here.

Can you remember anything else about? Odysseus's journey I think that He definitely cheated on his wife Not just with the sirens, I don't think well that's different that's coercion Okay, so but but yeah, I think he did it voluntarily. Yeah, oh cuz I think he had to do it because he was like He I think that's part of the Odyssey it's like You will step out of your marriage, but then you'll step back in it. I

Think that's not not ideal. I guess for the Greeks though. They like that stuff Really? Yeah, that's got more French character to it. Yeah, I think it's because Well, I guess yeah, that's the thing like David Hogg would like a well, okay, so here's the thing Excuse me Terrence David Hogg would like the word Um I think that like um You know that George straight song that's like check yes or no check yes I remember the music video for that he

passes a note in class and it's like do you like me they like me do you wanna be my friend because if you do maybe don't be and in in the video there was a box for yes and a box for no, and you could check yes or no. I like that's decisive. You know, maybe, no gray area here. That's the thing, like, right before the shooting happens, Hog gets past a letter like that,

and he's trying to decide, check yes or no. Have you made a decision for Christ? He's made a decision for Christ. That's actually how Columbine happened. That's how Columbine happened. Why not? Okay, yeah, that could actually work. The shooter is his crush. So the shooter gives him the letter. Do you love me? Check yes or no. Do you love me? Do you want to help me perpetrate this crime? This crime. Cause if you do, baby don't be afraid to meet me under the bleachers.

Where I've stashed some artillery. That's some high concept stuff. We'll go to Valhalla, we'll be a legend. People that listen to Marilyn Manson. Man, I'll tell you what, being a school shooter, here's the thing, Clee Bolden Harris, those are the Columbine shooters, I'm using some dated references here,

there's people that probably don't know Clee Bolden Harris and that's gonna speak to my point I'm getting ready to make here, those guys probably thought they were gonna live in infamy uh-huh and guess what everybody started doing it. mm-hmm. The market got too saturated on school shootings. That's true. It used to be a surefire way to live in infamy to have your name amongst the greats Jack Ruby you know the guy that showed a Harvey milk That guy see

That's where the industry's at. Yeah to me. I got over saturated So you're saying that it's a bad way to make your name now can't make your bones in school shooting anymore Gotta pick a different hustle. Now. Here's the thing get on tik-tok and just simulate it Don't actually do it. Just simulate it. See, there's a happy medium. People will think it's real. Yeah.

That's true. Everybody thinks everything on there is real now. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, you're right. I wonder though, like last week I queried about Patrick Bette David, are we gonna have like, you know, what did I say? You know how he's got the mafia turncoats and then,

you know, I wonder if there's a universe where, are we ever gonna rehabilitate a school shooter? John Hinckley, you probably would've thought a guy taking a whack at the president probably not gonna get rehabilitated. Yeah, but that's a cool one. Yeah, I support the attempt at killing Ronald Yeah, that's a guy I support the Attempted killing Ronald Reagan. I'm not saying I don't

I'm just saying that like in the public consciousness that seems like I do not pass go to not collect $200 now he's out Um, I think that we will never I think we will probably want like society will get to a point where it's so deranged And unhinged where they will start Rehabilitating school shooters a hundred percent. I think it's I think it's not outside the realm possibility. Yeah a hundred percent Yeah, yeah, like we celebrated that guy choking out Jordan Neely Daniel Penny guy he's got like a job now But one of the fucking real housewives put her own put him on his fuck on the grid Yeah, that's to Graham like we're definitely moving in the direction of school shooter gets a Fox News show It's a Fox News show tough thing damn

Yeah Damn, we should have known that David Hogg doesn't have the juice When they were celebrating like what they're not celebrating the victims of school shootings, they're definitely just celebrating the perpetrators. Perpetrators. Yeah. Such as. So what does that mean?

How do we fight back against that? We need to have someone who shoots the school shooters? There's always that market, you know? That's what Dexter taught us. Dexter did teach us. You can be a sociopath on those, you're a sociopath for market, you know? That's what Dexter taught us. Dexter did teach us. You can be a sociopath on those, you're a sociopath for good, you know? That's so true.

Yeah. Use those narcissistic instincts for the greater good. Yeah. That personality disorder you have, you just need a perspective shift. That's such a good point, Tom. You know? Yeah.

The sun went away completely. Instead of manipulating and abusing your loved ones, just manipulating and abusing the bad guys. You know? Problem solved. Problem solved. It's all useful. That's true.

Speaking of that, I saw that United Healthcare is being investigated for fraud. Oh really? Yeah. Well, probably sets a bad precedent that your CEO gets popped now you're investigating for fraud. You know, it almost makes you think the way to get a little, a modicum of justice is to, you know, do something. I don't know. To take your shirt off and sit outside and son twist around your hands, but yeah All right, it's probably or think we're close to an hour anyways, are you gonna say I could be here

I'd be here all best right. I'm sweaty. I had a pee really just a little I'm dude. I'm just such a little bitch Okay, I'm guessing I'm getting hungry. I gotta eat lunch. Okay. I have to eat. I have to eat lunch. Maybe that's where we differ, is I just had some sustenance from right here. I'm cheating. I did, what? Yeah, I had to take great, no great pleasure in saying that I got my glucose levels up before we did this. I didn't.

I was dragging a little bit in the first bit because it hadn't kicked in yet. Yeah, we've done opposite I was fucking firing on all cylinders. I was like They must walk That's just the thing that's just the thing about Conversation man, yeah, and then the yang man Sometimes there that means there's a perfect moment of this part of this episode where I was That means there's a perfect moment of this episode where I was at my apex before I went down and you were at your apex before you went up.

We're at your lowest point. We passed each other. Ben diagram. You tell us where that point was, dear listener. We'll be back next week. Lord Willem and the Creek Don't Rise. Yep. Alright.

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