Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 396: Rat-Tail King Of Kentucky

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

After some not inconsiderable preamble, we look at two Kentucky-specific stories today: one about a New Age guru roofing magnate, and another about the Kentuckian millionaire who tortured another millionaire for bitcoin in Manhattan Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

What I was thinking the other day what if um the crazy thing about the virgin birth the immaculate because why is it called the immaculate because it was it was nice it was nice it was immaculate it was so good how it all went down um what if the thing was perfect execution? Wasn't there an age gap there? Wasn't Joseph older than her? Oh, I thought she was talking about God. God. Yeah. God started at infinity years old and Mary is only 18.

18. Yeah. Teenagers. You talk about, I'm hearing whispers that it's age gap summer. The unks are going to be thriving this summer. So does that mean age gap is good? No, I think it's good I think it went last year. It was problematic this year. It's in fashion as these things go dude Everything the vibe shift is so crazy like it's pride month and really what's so wild to me is how Like watching it's giving me whipl, watching corporations go from just one year ago,

it's like bending over backwards to like proof that they're LGBT friendly, to like not even acknowledging it now. To now they're like, actually we'll kill you if you're gay and try to shop here now. Cause now we don't have to cater to you. Fucking crazy. What's funny is it's like this is,

well it's just like that JD Vance tweet That's one he was just doing he's doing his regular Yokel thing like oh, I'm so is that what the point of that was he was trying to prove It was two things. He was trying to prove that he doesn't know the difference between laymiz and Sweeney Todd Which you know he does but that that in itself is in Sweeney Todd, which you know he does. But that in itself speaks to the second thing he was trying to do there. Which is prove that his wife thinks he's funny?

No, throw us off the scene that he's gay. Well, which is prove that his wife thinks he's funny. Well, no, well that too. But then the other part is like, well if you're aware of Sweeney Todd, you're in there, you know what I mean? The only thing I know about Sweeney Todd, you're in there, you know what I mean? The only thing I know about Sweeney Todd was the Johnny Depp live actor movie, remember?

Was that Tim Burton? Oh, Tim Burton, yeah. The demon barber of something street? Man, those guys had a fucking run of just mid bullshit. They knocked it out of park with Edward Scissorhands and it was downhill from there. They made like Willy Wonka, remade it. Yeah, that was bad. Like it was like, it's like, is this gonna be even weirder Willy Wonka?

It's, we're gonna put all kinds of steampunk contraptions on his mouth. Gonna look like a Marilyn Manson video. Yeah, that was dumb. Why did they do that? I don't know. Probably just be weird. Weird. That was in. That was in back then. Well, I'm sure you've, I'm sure everybody's had this experience where you've like been involved with somebody who thought that Tim Burton was the hide of like... Yeah, dude.

Alternative. In the, in... Outsider art. When you live in the provinces and like not everybody knows who like Christoph Kislauski is yeah, you're gonna drop you if you drop Kislauski you're scaring the hoes scare the hoes, but Tim Burton you're You're like yeah, that's true. You're fishing with dynamite. That's true Which is a shame because cuz last case was like so It's just very poignant. Yeah, very sentimental very sweet. You've been you were Talk about his trilogy the other day. Yeah, the three colors children. Yeah, tell me more about that. It's

It's like based off of the tri-colored flag of France. I was reading it and I was like, wonder why he did it off of that. It's like, Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité. It's Fraternité, the red or the blue? The white. The white.

Yeah. For Egalité is the red, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For Socialisme. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. White is Fraternité, blue is Liberté. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. red obviously yeah for social is me so yeah white is fraternity blues liberty okay that makes yeah yeah but the three movies are it's an anti comedy and anti drama and an anti romance or anti tragedy anti comedy anti romance just a

little side note for we get into the meat and potatoes of that. I kind of wish that, I kind of wish that we as the left would have co-opted blue. I like blue better than red. Really? Yeah, I wish we were known as the blues instead of the reds.

Interesting. I'll go with it. But if I were starting from the top, if they named me president of communism I've been like well blues the move here what they I don't know I like red you think so do you think it's more promising yeah yeah and the Republicans know that that's why they co-opted it we really need to take it back yeah my blue does not come from a loyalty to the Democrats or Kentucky basketballs I'm

sure some are surprising but rather just I like the color it's nice we gotta take it back we gotta reclaim it we gotta switch it up we're getting our asses kicked in red that's funny that Bob did the trailer for that MGK album you know is that real yeah it's real it's such a swerve, you know? It's kinda like, we were talking about the new Lil Wayne album, and I read, did you read the Paul Thompson written pitch for it? No.

Well, I felt validated at the first sentence. He says, well, the first problem is there's no good songs on there. You know. That's issue number one. Yeah, but he also said that Wayne has this like filthy to like the, to industry mechanics from like 10 years ago. Yeah.

And Eminem have fundamentally the same problem where they still think you have to have like pop singles. Yeah. Like a club single, a single for the ladies. Yeah. All that kind of stuff. And at the same time, they're like such rap nerds that every syllable has to be perfect

and like it takes away some of the interesting sort of, you know, perfect imperfections. They've not adapted to the times. Yeah, they were still stuck in 2012, 2011, you know. You don't have to do that anymore. Actually, an Eminem or a little Wayne the album that was just like a little offbeat would be interesting now but they still feel like that they gotta... and then they have to have like

the weird sort of like like Lil Wayne on this has a Lin-Manuel Miranda produced track which is I'm sorry that's the worst... I'm gonna tell you right now I've heard some bad songs in my day. That's the worst song I've ever heard. Is there skits on it? It's just elephant noises and like these fruity loops like, uh, fucking, you know, remember, did you ever like, uh, like download a fruity loops thing off of like Pirate Bay or something and unlock it? Yeah.

You know, the first beat you ever made on there and you're like, this is hot fire. Then like, when you render it to a track, it's the thinnest shit in the world. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that. Yeah, you know And that's a bit Lin-Manuel Miranda did it so it must be fire good, right? Must be hot fire and then

Yeah, but yeah, I just I don't know it's just What is that going with that? I don't know we hit we open we opened at least a dozen tabs starting out How did we go from? Koslowski's trilogy to even before that we started with Jesus Mary and Joseph. Oh, yeah, God's old to age gap summer to vibe shift to JD Vance to And we didn't Tim Burton. We didn't tease any of them out And we didn't Tim Burton we didn't tease any of them out That was the quintessential I'm gonna open 20 tabs read the first sentence and come back to it, but never come back to it

Why do we do I deserve? Why does our minds operate that way cuz we're sleep-deprived I'm proud to try. We have no attention span. Look, I'm untreated ADHD. 100%. I think so. Yeah. 100%. I have acid reflux in the middle of the night. Wakes me up at 4 o'clock in the morning, puking fucking bowel up.

You gotta incline yourself. I did. Well, okay. Listen, I'm so bad off that even the incline treatments not working I think I need to get my esophagus removed you should start sleeping with a noose around your neck and you're just hanging hanging from the ceiling and That'll stop the acid from coming up That's true

That's you know, well suicide joke dude. The thing is what's so funny is a Suicide humor That's you know, well suicide joke dude. The thing is what's so funny is What's so funny is how pressed some of our fans get when I make suicide jokes But then like me and Perry went and saw the French connection last night and they they played one of those Looney Tunes cartoons before the tech savory cartoons before the movie and it is so funny how common suicide jokes were in looney tunes cartoons for like eight-year-olds Like our 32 year old fans get pressed when I make a suicide joke, but like your average eight-year-old in 1957 was Yes, we're like the horny wolf like like is so horny he just blows his brains out.

That's literally in that cartoon. Yeah, but everybody's like, no, I need a trigger. It's like, dog, but you've never been suicidal. Like it's a pretty common universal experience there. Yeah, dude. Where I was going with Jesus, Mary and Joseph was, what if the, because like I'm like reading about the Gnostics and stuff man like how much the Bible has been

obfuscated and co-opted man. It's like man when you think about Jesus was just like really chill. He was like some might say he was a socialist remember when Jesus was a socialist was the thing. Yeah I'm with Jason Woodbury on he's probably an alien You know, you're you're on the UFO tip. I think I'm on that tip. Yeah, okay But I'm sure that'll piss somebody off too Things I've pissed people off for recently suicide jokes not knowing about the Quebec separatist movement you cut a lot of flack for that yeah yeah doing voices so I'm not gonna do voices anymore really yeah that's for

me though I want you to keep doing that ain't for them that's for me I just want you to just drift into a bob or here in there. Okay. All right for you. I'll do it. Thanks What if the story what if the story wasn't that it was it It was with his that that pera passelini movie. I think there's an age gap. I think Joseph's old solo solo Yeah, there's some age gaps in that As they I think it's the gospel of Matthew. of Matthew what I'm thinking of okay, it goes hard. I like that shit was that What was the problem I get between Jesus at 33 and his old disciples? No, it's a you mother's came walk the desert anymore

His disciples are in their 70s. You can't hang eat more locusts and figs His disciples are in their seventies. If you can't hang eat more locusts and figs How old were the Gospel writer. That's a great question. Actually. I don't know. You know Luke was a doctor. They said he's a doctor Dr. Luke, isn't that like a producer a rap producer? He's a very cancelled producer What why? Why am I I'm the allegations guy and I should know Yeah, he was the one that was accused of

sexual assault and cash. Yeah, did he do Lady Gaga stuff? He produced for everybody for a while now Now it's like, the reason people have turned on Katy Perry is because she continues to work with her. Oh Which makes sense, like Katy Perry's got that vibe

She used to date Russell Brand Yeah, well, it's sort of like an evil person who's Like who's basically like dr. Luke if he was a bad actor Yeah, you're right. You're right All that set up for a joke that's not even that funny, but what if the what if the thing about What if the weird thing about Jesus and Mary, or Mary and Joseph wasn't that, it was an immaculate conception, but against all odds,

Joseph and Mary were really, really old, like in their 80s, and they got pregnant. That happened just a couple books later with Abraham and Sarah, right? Earlier, you mean? Earlier. Yeah, I'm sorry Wait, wait. No, you said I'm sorry. Yeah couple a couple books more like the whole Old Testament before I'm losing my touch. What was I think about? I think about lot and his wife. Yeah, also before Here get a baby. I'll pick picnic, I got a baby in Miami.

Well, the Bible lore starts from the perspective that somebody that's like 961 years old lived, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it makes sense that you'd be in your 80s and be like, well, you know, we're not getting any younger, let's have a baby before we're 312. You know what I mean? But we view that in our modern lifespans Well, you know, it's we're not getting any younger let's have a baby before we're 312 You know, I mean we view that in our modern lifespans is like damn man

Abraham was lay in pipe at 427 427 dude, you've got to have a Like the aphrodisiacs back then must have gone crazy There's had to have been they're like huff this herb Like there's that herb. There's that herb in Homer that he talks about called Molly MOL why that you smoke it and then I'll get it'll make you But you think that's where they get the colloquial name for MDMA? God, probably. Let's take it back to the classics. Let's take it back to the classics.

Molly, Molly it is. My god, I got a baby. Oh my god. Oh fuck, I thought all my childhood years was behind me. But now I got a baby. That's how Mary said it. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

Was Mary Magdalene Jesus' lady friend or was that his mom? No, that was his platonic friend. We Protestants don't really talk about Mary Magdalene. The Catholics love her, but the Protestants, we try to... We're like, nah, yeah, we're trying to sanitize the history of that. That's crazy Why is that we hate romance God forbid God have a sex worker friend, you know God made flesh pass a sex worker. Yeah, like that was the thing I guess right that he had a room Romance there was always that salacious which I never understood why they tried to make

50 shades of gray and a Bible story where there's no There's always talk that yeah, man. There's an apocryphal story Like the S&M No, I'm just saying that Jesus had a relationship with Mary Magna. Oh, you're saying like you're not talking about the IP product 50 shades of gray. No, but I'm just saying that there was like I'm talking here's let me start all over in Protestantism we didn't engage with that But there was something vaguely tantalizing in the Protestant mind about like Jesus and Mary Magdalene having an affair Yeah, but but but but also that pokes a hole in the hole

Was without sin thing you know I bet he didn't actually fuck like he definitely didn't beat he wanted to Like how many days was ace? Yeah, like how many well, no, I don't think he was ace I think that he in that classic romantic way that like a lot of young Christian men do where they like lead you on you know like like They make you think that they're going to put out. What you're describing is grooming. Sort of, but they don't actually.

The Christian version is where like a youth pastor is patiently waiting until a girl turns 18. And then he quietly dates her for three years and then acts like, you know. What I'm talking about is. I found my soul mate last week no what I'm talking about is like when let's say you're 18 or 19 and You're a Christian young man, and you're conflicted about having sex because you've never actually had sex You don't know if you'd be any good at it, but you try to start up a romance with a Girl who has obviously had sex Or girl who has obviously had sex,

or a boy who's obviously had sex, whatever. And you lead them on in some, like, I don't know what the word would be, it's kind of like. Emotional abuse. No, no, no, it's not bad. It's not like in any way manipulative. Act like you've got a little more experience than you know

No, it's like dude. How do I articulate what I'm trying to say here? Like you're not trying to actually have sex. You're just trying to have some romantic emotional affair where you Lead them to believe you will one day date them or have sex with them, but Really all you're trying to do is accrue stories for your future testimony in which you say oh my god And then people in the audience say that's a he was wavered once But now he's found he's come back to the light. Does that make sense? Yeah, it's like I would have Christian friends who would like do bad stuff just so they could accrue stories for their testimony

But not too bad not too, but they wouldn't go all the way that it wouldn't have sex What be a sin, but it would be like yeah, I was I was led away by the flesh once they would hit they would hit a joint and not Inhale and black. Oh my god I see what you're saying they they they they have a very normal common experience But embellish it like they were the chief of centers. Yes! All for the testimony. All for the testimony. Yeah. Exactly. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. I was so sleep deprived I can't even talk normal things anymore. Yeah. This part like it's I don't I don't even know words anymore really. Yeah, I understand that. Me, I fingered a couple girls

in swimming pools and felt horrible about it. Well you should because that's that hygiene. I was too bashful to give my... You went to the pool supply store later and you gave your own testimony like, I'm so bad, I gave two girls a yeast infection. That's my little pudgy meat-beaters. You don't feel bad about the moral sin, you feel bad about the biological sin.

Yeah. Which brings me to my next point. Fucking and water, virtually impossible. I don't care what anybody says, I don't give a shit It's like it's the cow tipping of youthful sex Yeah, like when your buddy's like yeah, we had sex in a hot tub. It's like You probably didn't mm-hmm Yeah, I tried to have sex in a lake one time as

sex in a lake one time as Yeah, hey try hey try let me beat in this That was dumb but luckily it didn't come to fruition. Because you're right, it is basically impossible. Yeah, yeah. Somebody tries to tell you that sex in water. So yeah, I bet you've tipped a cow too. When you're young, you just, you know, you. You believe some funny things about the world.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. There's grown men out there that are gonna hear this and say, no, I've done it. No, you've not That is that is 100% a youthful man. Yeah, like a catfish Yeah, literally like a catfish locked onto your penis. Yeah, like one of those whimsical shirts that you know shows a fisherman Casting his rod. Yeah, it's got some sort of dirty sand on there. Right. Well, you know like noodling with your arm

But with your penis Sticking in a muddy bank. Yeah, trying to get a month. It's good stuff. Yeah, that's high level. It's high low Mm-hmm I wonder Man imagine something I've been thinking about lately is the land bridge Yeah between Alaska and Russia modern-day Alaska and modern-day Russia. Okay. I see. Yeah, you're talking about the

migration pattern. Yeah Yeah, well, I've been reading this book on the Cherokee Fantastic book by the way, it's just called Cherokee a history or something like that. Okay, it's like officially Sanction what would it be the right word officially approved by the Cherokee Nation? It's written by a chair Thumbs up. It's written by a Cherokee named Robert Conley And by a Cherokee, thumbs up. It's written by a Cherokee named Robert Conley. And part of Cherokee mythology, or their history, part of the Cherokee oral history is that they, some believe they came from South America.

They came all the way up. And there is some evidence for it because their weaving patterns that they use isn't really found anywhere else in North America, but it is found in South America. So it might have. Is that why, here's something I'd be interested in. Maybe this is one for like Kate Wagner

or somebody that knows about design or architecture, but I'm curious to know why the Navajo rug patterns look very similar to the Turkish Kilim rug pattern. Interesting. You notice that? Yeah, they do. They look very similar. I wonder if there's any

I mean, it's probably Panjia theory about the Turks actually, or Navajo. Are they the same? It's obviously Melunjin. Like that's the missing link. Well, it would be if you think about it. That's what I'm saying, literally. If you're driving a straight line

from the Southwest to Istanbul, you'd have to cut right through. Well, Appalachia is true. I would imagine that they probably didn't. Somebody's gonna sketch that out on a map and be like, no you don't. I would imagine the ancient Navajo probably did not make rugs.

You don't think so? No. Too busy combing that beautiful hair. Yeah, no, they probably didn't start start making and I could be entirely wrong about this But that's probably more of a modern Thing like they probably started making rugs like in the 1700s. Yeah Again, I could be entirely wrong. I'm only a Cherokee and Shawnee In you expert knows the thing those are the only books I've read recently. Yeah

expert. Those are the only books I've read recently. Yeah. Yeah. But the land bridge theory, there is no actual evidence for this. Yeah, a lot of Native Americans think it's complete bullshit. Like there's no, it's just like Vine Deloria called it scholarly folklore. So the land bridge theory suggests that Native Americans descended from Asians the theory the land bridge theory suggests that Native Americans descended from Asians that Crossed the land bridge before yeah, Pangaea pulled us apart right just like love just like Sometimes love will tear you apart. Yeah, that's and Gia tore us all apart. It's true We should have known that that's what happens with love because of Pangaea And she was the OG Tower Babble if you think about it.

That's true. We all could have been one global tribe instead. God had other ideas. It was also the original heart break. Yeah, that's true. That's so true. So true. That's so true.

What do you think, how's it happened when God created like the land sketches if like on the globe Or it's just like no, this is the perfect shape of everything. Mm-hmm. Perfect amount of water. Mm-hmm Perfect amount of lands. What was going through his head? Yeah, because it doesn't really make a ton of sense, you know Hmm say some people can live in hot places some people living cold places Make sense to me some people live in cold places. Makes sense to me. Some people live in temperate places. I mean if you make hot places then you're gonna make people to live in them right? And if you make cold places? When you feel slided

off you became like you know what I mean like what if you could have been in Mexico but instead you ended up in Antarctica. Hmm. Maybe not Antarctica because that's mostly just pigeons or penguins. Penguins, pigeons. There's a lot of pigeons in Antarctica. There's a lot of pigeons there. That's another thing that people mad at us about getting everything wrong.

Which I have to say, you didn't know there's pigeons in Antarctica? Maybe you're wrong. It seems like you didn't get your weight up a little bit. Sounds like you need to fucking read some more books. Sounds like you need to start a podcast smarty britches Let the nut there's no The land bridge theory. I'm I'm you're selling I'm selling on it. Yeah Yeah, so scholarly folklore would be like melungen tri-racial islets would fit into this. It's in the scholarly folklore

Yeah, it might. Yeah although. I don't know It seems like over the course of doing this podcast We started out with the position that melunge ins was kind of a jokey bit. There's new evidence Well, it seems like a lot of our listeners seem to want us to take it more seriously Okay, and I don't know why okay. Well in turn do we have to take take it more seriously. Okay. And I don't know why. Okay, well in turn do we have to take Land Bridge more seriously? Or the theory of Pangea?

I think we should take Land Bridge less seriously. How exactly is a rainbow made? Why is the sky blue? Dear listener. Those are questions that I think I can answer. If somebody writes in and says it's actually a prism Did it I hate you. There's nitrogen in the atmosphere And makes a blue

Burns bright burns bright for mankind That Cherokee book is tight It's it's really sad though. Is this the guy that was like, I think you were telling me when we were going a couple weeks ago, you were like, oh yeah, he addresses all the white people say their Cherokee thing. He just exasperates them but doesn't really say anything? That's Vine Deloria in Custer Died for Your Sins. That book rules. What does he say? He just said that he was just like I have a lot of white people coming to my office saying that there are one-eighth like Cherokee or whatever and he's like

He's like I used to try to argue with them, but now I just laugh about it and send them away It's like smile nod and send them away because like It well based on like, you know Trail of tears and resettlement all that stuff. It's like it would all actually kind of be hard for as many people that claim Cherokee ancestry to like actually be able to point to Like even like an ancestor that was like on the rolls or something. It's weird the At one point there were five different major Cherokee groups in America,

like in the early 1800s. There were the Western Cherokees in Arkansas and Oklahoma. There were Texas Cherokees that fled there. And all the ones in Arkansas and Oklahoma basically fled there after Tecumseh's attempt at revolt in 1811, but then you had the original Cherokee Nation in parts of Georgia, Tennessee, Western North Carolina. Then you had the Western North Carolina Cherokees who managed to stay in Western North Carolina after the Trail of Tears.

They basically went into the mountains. Theoretically possible. Yeah, it's theoretically possible. Also, the thing is, is a lot of white people, a lot of Europeans, tried to escape American society by joining various tribes. Like this happened with the Shawnee all the time So so I'm a little off base when I say there's no such thing as like tri-racial islets. It's quite possible There were just some like white settlers that were able to join tribes and maybe marry native women Sam Houston's dad was Cherokee, so that's like but but but not not like not his act literal biological dad his adopted father was Cherokee, so that's like legit, but but but not not like not his act literal biological dad his adopted father was Cherokee Okay, which is it's just like guess what I'm saying. It's weird because

the Cherokee were Unlike the Shawnee the Cherokee they having to raise a white baby in Texas What do I do this white baby Yeah, that actually doomed Sam Houston's first presidential run. Really, it was a scandal. Well, he tried to protect the Texas Cherokees and Alexander Lamar actually, who was the second Texas president.

The namesake of Lamar University? Maybe. You got Sam Houston State and Lamar. That makes sense. Lamar was a street I drove on a lot in Austin Okay, that's the namesake of that street. Okay. He actually was able to Attack Sam Houston because of his allegiance to the Cherokee But man, I'm really skipping over a lot of history, but the Cherokee were in matrilineal

Democratic they had like several different like communities across the southeast naturalennial Democratic they had like several different like communities across the southeast and they like it's really wild like if you look at the Native American Approach to war as opposed to the European approach to war like prior to to war as opposed to the European approach to war like prior to War most Native Americans would either fast or they would drink the black drink

It's ya Ponte. It's a made from holly. It makes you vomit basically Is it like a psychedelic thing? No, I mean it gets you extremely like hyped up and you vomit and like cuz like oh It's like this like proto caffeine yeah the social function of war around by them well it had caffeine in it as a ton of caffeine actually has way more caffeine than even like that's right coffee the social function of war was different it was um it was like basically it was to achieve balance. Like the Cherokee believed that there was a world above ours and a world below ours, and those were always in conflict and at war with each other,

and our role on this earth was to keep those in balance. And- So like a heaven or hell concept, or are you talking about like a- Kind of. Yeah. I guess you could say it was kind of a heaven or hell I hate to be like you know I'm sure they had that like even when the Judeo

Christian narratives were popping up I don't mean to say that like you know you're you mean like applying like European concepts yeah yeah that's why I don't want to do that you know well I mean well a lot of religions there is a lot of overlap yeah but like the Cherokees also believe that plants had spirits, and that's tight. Yeah, that's pretty tight Yeah, I mean also another thing that's really fascinating is like So like for example, okay, so like going on the war thing for example like Europeans practiced total war Yeah, you know what I mean they get loaded up on like potatoes and just like fucking burn a bill village down and all the crops Native Americans would fast yeah, like to where they could you know would be kind of like, you know

I sort of disassociate our adnator. Yeah hallucinogenic state, right and that would be the so they wouldn't practice total war They wouldn't try to like burn the crops and everything but they would you know obviously kill each other like that was war But another thing that's really fascinating to me is like the role of dreams In Native American society like it had a civic function like for example like there's seven clans in the Cherokee Nation and there are multiple holidays throughout the year, and your clan would be responsible for throwing the ritual ceremony. And if you had a dream of an eagle before the ceremony,

then you would have to incorporate an eagle dance into the thing. So I was like, dreams had a civic function. Does that make sense? Yeah. We don't even talk about dreams anymore. What if you had a dream of Brian Wilson? What would that say? The day before he died. That happened to me. That's crazy. I think Brian Wilson

appeared to me in my dream. You think so? Before he died. Or he had one last order of business before he departed this mortal coil. That's to tell Terrence, hey, you're gonna be okay. I haven't been listening to the Beach Boys lately. So clearly I Was tapped into something bro I've told this story, but I had a dream about Spaceship blowing up like two or three days before that one that happened like early 2000s over like challenge Texas or the col Challenger was the 80s Texas one, but then I think the Columbia the Columbia was like 2002 2001. Yes. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah Dream, but which is really strange that that but yeah, I had

The phenomenon you speak of has happened to me too. Maybe seers and don't know I Think so maybe the world's dumbest seers Seers nonetheless time is kind of bullshit, right? So it's like, it's possible that I knew Brian Wilson was gonna die already. I've thought about that before. His death or just, or the fact that you might be. The fact, you've been praying on Brian Wilson's downfall?

You son of a bitch. I support the guy who tried to extort him and manipulate him. Yeah, you're sending money to that fucking coot shrink that was fucking abusing him. I like what you're doing there. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. I

Got a baby man sliced on and Brian Wilson back-to-back days. That's isn't that crazy It's a bad time. Okay last thing about the Cherokees Did you know that the United States government made them pay for the Trail of Tears? Literally, is that some like French Haiti shit or like yes, France sends Haiti the business. Oh, yeah, literally colonization They world this they literally sent them a bill for like a 1.3 million dollars Can you imagine somebody doing the most depraved shit in the world to you? not only like Subjugating you for labor purposes, but also like dude the French would like would take

Haitian slaves genitals and make candy out of them Yeah, dude, like the most fucked up shit you can imagine and then been like Well, here's the bill Yeah, most audacious shit like what's crazy is this place fuck France, but what's crazy is the Cherokee tried to? assimilate to white society like they tried to adopt all of the social technologies and implements and practices of white society. There were conservative elements, and by that I mean ones that tried to resist that and hold onto the old ways

and joined to cum-sum-sum. But a lot of them tried to, like the main body of them tried to assimilate. And then slowly that's when you start getting the situation in the early 18 10s and 20s where Georgia is passing laws that make it Basically, I mean it's very similar to what's going on in Gaza and the West Bank Like they were slowly taking chipping away at Cherokee land and taking it and then they slowly started to pass apartheid laws where it was Illegal to be white it was illegal for white people to go on Cherokee land and illegal for Cherokee people to go on white land

And then so eventually Andrew Jackson proposes like removal Indian removal Because Andrew Jackson fucking hated the Cherokees like dude one of the most racist figures in American What was his what was he quoted as saying about him like was it just? Well, I mean just your average you know a racist bile like they're savages and all that but like in this book what's interesting is he points out like a lot of people like to say that people like Andrew Jackson like their racism was a product of its time or whatever like they were just like, you know products of their time and he was like but coincidentally like Davy Crockett is the Example of how that's not true because Davy Crockett was one of the few people who actually voted against the Trail of Tears

Yeah, like Davy Crockett was an Indian fighter Like but and he even he thought the Trail of Tears went too far. Like, he was just like, that's ethnic cleansing. Like it's real, and so like he voted against it and was basically ostracized for it, which is really weird to think about. But. Well, what would the equivalent modern politics be of that? Like if just like, who's like, somebody that's like, was an architect of the Iraq War but was like, no, no, no, we gotta stop this in Gaza,

or something. Right, it would be like if, it would literally be like if someone like Josh Hawley was like, okay, ICE is going too far, like rounding up church. Oh, like Rand Paul's doing that, I guess. Yeah. I guess Rand Paul would be, right?

Right, right, maybe something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's, I mean, that's another situation that's all this is pertinent to, is, you you know Los Angeles and the ice roundups and all this stuff I mean, it's you know, it's a common refrain of how vulgar it is to like basically try to remove Mexican people from

Former Mexico, right? Right from Los Angeles from yeah, Los Angeles name is Los Angeles Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's, they literally, they're gonna propose that. I'm calling it. They're gonna propose that in the next four, Change the name of it. Yeah. Just shorten it to L.A.

The Angels. The Angels, yeah. The City of Angels. Oh man. Just all, we're run by just straight white supremacist man It is wild. You know what? Talking about JD and his like, you know, who should think I'm hilarious I'm sure she does

If he really wanted to like that that's what's missing from his like Appalachian bona fides is claiming Cherokee ancestry. Oh, yeah, that's true He was a real hillbilly. He would either be saying he's descended from shipwrecked Turks or uh-huh that he's Cherokee Yeah, yeah, you have to have one or the other which is a JD. Well, and now it's been proven that he's not even Scotch-Irish so There's no evidence even comes from Ulster, which is a weird thing. Maybe he doesn't come from anywhere. His DNA is like... Yeah, that's why he keeps his shirt on the swimming pool. He doesn't want to show anybody that he doesn't have a belly button. He was just put here. His scales. Yeah. If he takes his shirt, it's not cuz he's It's not cuz he's got you know those perfect like little Chubby titties it's because that he's got you know, he's got no belly button and he has fish like quality

Unfortunately JD is also all too human. He's just obviously human He's like the he's just the worst aspects of humanity Unlike like I said, unlike someone like Hillary Clinton, who is just obviously not a human. She's not one of us. I saw a video the other day, they were talking about all the pop girlies that make songs pointing to being gay

or now dating men. Somebody- Oh, JoJo Siwa. It's like JoJo Siwa, Clara, Fletcher, all dating men. Then in the same video that girl goes, Hillary Clinton dating a man. What do you think Hillary Clinton's gay? She might've missed a good opportunity to be. She's one of those people who I just can't even like. You know how there's just some people who you can't even picture them having sex? You can't even picture them in any sort of's just some people who you can't even picture them having sex? You can't even picture them in any sort of central...

Which is funny that you're married to a guy that, unfortunately, I can't imagine having too much sex. That's why I'm saying, that's why I think she might be an alien. She was like, who is the right guy that would make me look human? Who's the biggest pussy hound in the American South? But also smart enough to go to Oxford and facilitate my upward mobility. They're getting ready to go out to a gala or whatever and Bill's like, he's like knocking on the, Hillary's been in the bathroom the whole time, Bill's like, we gotta go, baby. We're running late, we're running behind.

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French connection was pretty tight though I mean, I probably watched it like 15 years ago, but like a gene heckman gene heckman and Roy Scheider man I've been meaning to watch Jaws again or shutters the the French connection is about a Sure, Roy Scheider's little-known, you know role in mmm that you know in jaws. Yeah, and John. Mm-hmm Was that a movie about heroin? maybe was about getting used getting stuck in the jaws of fentanyl addiction

Addiction right? Yeah Spielberg saw it about 50 years early. He did he saw the opioid exactly 50 Right the shark in the water is actually all the drugs have been flushing in our municipal water system Yeah, well they're all the same. Yeah, well, they're all the same. Damn. It's really interesting in the French connection. It's French.

Like, what if it was something, what if it was like, I don't know, the British connection? That didn't roll off the tongue the same way, does it? Yeah, we've got a lot of... Are you a Jeeves head? Jeeves? Yeah, P.G. Wodehouse. P.G. Wodehouse? Yeah.

Dude, what are you... Yeah, I fuck with P.G. Wodehouse. Dog. The Inevitable Jeeves? Jeeves, yeah, the novel. Oh shit, give me that. Let's read this entire book. I would contend besides Charles Portis and a couple others Morning Jeeves. I said good morning, sir said Jeeves

He put the old cup of tea softly on the table by my bed, and I took a refreshing sip Just right as usual Not too hot not too sweet not too weak Most amazing Cove Jeeves So by Joe so dash competent in every respect Yeah, I remember like Hitchens used to be really into Jeeves and when I was reading Hitchens because I thought that's what made you smart I was like, oh you got to read Jeeves to be smart This humor And when I was reading Hitchens because I thought that's what made you smart. I was like, oh you got to read Jeeves to be smart Just humor

What else going on the world today, I don't know I have a few little stories for us to read Just some updates one is an update on a story one is a story that We needs no update needs no updated, but we needed a cover on the show. Just haven't gotten around to it We've talked about this before you and I but we've not introduced it to the audience. This is a story That's been making the local rounds here in Kentucky. Okay. Lexington Blue owner operated a cult of fraud intimidation, employees say.

The owner of Lexington Blue, the roofing company accused of defrauding homeowners and insurance companies, ran his firm as a cult of personality. Brad Pagel encouraged employees to take psychedelic drugs Lectured them for hours about his own metaphysical beliefs and cheated them out of money. What were his metaphysical beliefs? See, he was an ayahuasca guy, right? Yeah, he was Yeah, let's see Okay

Well, he routinely berated his employees under the guise of encouragement and bombarded sales team leaders with and managers with hundreds of intimidated Intimidating text messages and voicemails a day. He's a psychopath said Alex Sikulich a former Sales team leader at Licent and Blue the whole place was built off of fear that you were going to lose your job fear of brand We were all terrified of Brad's psychotic nature The 42 year old Pagle has not responded to multiple requests by the Herald leader The 10 year old company and its founder who often called himself Reverend. Dr. Brad Pagle I'm your governor mr. Besson you're mad. I'm your governor mr. Madsen like

Going to work for a roofing company And the guy there you expect it to be like kind of like work for a construction firm or something like that but instead you get a Guy that licks toes that cause himself Reverend doctor a reverend doctor. I feel like it should be the other way around I think like it should be dr. Reverend, right? Dr. Reverend. Yeah, I think so. Where's that? Which one's which honorific gets priority? Your academic bona fides or your you know, you're logical logical bona fides. Reverend Dr. Brad Pagle I mean Reverend doctor. If he was a real cult leader, he wouldn't he wouldn't he wouldn't have kept the name Brad

He would have called himself like, you know, the great win or something like that. You know? Yeah. He claimed on the job recruiting site indeed to have completed more than 8,500 roofing projects with plans to expand in 2025. But he is neither a minister nor a doctor.

And instead of growing this year, the company collapsed and closed Have you noticed that most people that put the doctor honorific in front of their name or not in fact? Certainly not medical doctors, but not even like academic doctors When Pegel closed Lexington blue abruptly on April 26 He posted an online letter to customers explaining the company hoped to pass open jobs to another company But just five days later and a subsequent message to customers Pegel said the subcontra backed out and he was looking for someone else to take over

Since then Pagle has said nothing directly to customers on his social media He announced he's left Lexington and blamed his staff for the business failure blamed his staff for the business failure. It was the staff whose abuse I subjected them to. It's whose fault it was. Dude, his fucking...this page... He went with...he went with...when shit hit the fan, he went with nobody wants to work anymore. Yeah, he provided a YouTube link to...what is this?

Dirty Laundry? What song is this? Don Henley, Dirty Laundry. Wait, that's him? He in a video to Don Henley's Dirty Laundry? No, he posted in his I'm Being Crucified post, he posted a video. I'm Being Crucified.

Don Henley, Dirty Laundry. He's like right out of central casting for Cult Leaders, which makes it like goofy I love this song. It's a good song This is what he said he said After five months of unintentional business challenges including insolvency sabotage and mistakes made by my staff without my full knowledge I find myself being singled out and vilified for the amusement of a few lost souls give us Barabbas give us Barabbas Crucify him crucify him. That's so you own a roofing company dog

Dog this is this is the sign of the times day That's like dude you can't even like just go work at a normal place now without the owner being some sort of like like just go work at a normal place now without the owner being some sort of like crypto religious kook you know and I and I need to point out that the vast majority of the workforce of roofing companies are usually undocumented immigrants who are like being probably exploited well obviously exploited but also probably being rounded up like ice was was seen in Lexington the past few weeks. Like their staging grounds are like the Lexmark out on. Yeah, yeah.

Apparently there's 12 Ice agents at Kentucky, 10 are in Louisville, two are in Lexington. I had a friend of ours tell me that last night and said that there's been families like in certain counties, I think Laurel County and Kenton County, they were just like, disappeared. Like nobody knows what facility they're at, where, why, and I think that's part of their.

This guy's probably like, he's probably gonna like make a deal, he's like, I'll give you all my undocumented workers for full immunity. And then the CIA will, fuckin fucking bankroll his weird church. Yeah. OK, so we've read that. You are media zombies, the blind leading the blind, guided by the lying.

Sheeple. Pagle is not a Kentucky native. Records indicate he was born in Arizona in October 1982. It is unclear what brought him to the Bluegrass state, but he does not appear to have gone to college here or anywhere else He's like JD. He's belly buttonless. He just plopped down in Arizona in 82 this Facebook photo of him. Let me see what this guy looks like April 23rd smoking a cigar on the beach After he basically fled the state after his company's imploded

He's smoking a cigar on the beach It says if you were truly aware of the ramifications of your actions and the impact they have on you He's led the state after his company's imploded. He's smoking a cigar on the beach that says, if you were truly aware of the ramifications of your actions and the impact they have on you, you wouldn't have done what you did or would be doing what you are doing. People lack awareness and are quick to throw unenlightened stones at these.

I love to throw. At the enlightened. I love to throw unenlightened stones. Oh my God. At those they deem unworthy of love. I get mad, I get get angry I'm still sad sometime sometime often feel like lashing out and striking back but I'm aware so I breathe through it all take the time I need to process my emotions in a healthy way and

I let it all go no one is worth the while in the end and I never want to do something do you know, usually I'm against an armchair diagnosis, but I would venture to say by how many times this guy said, I, me, me, I. He's free, he's free, yeah. And any blame is somebody else. Yeah.

Seems as if they're like, well, you're the big cheese dog, the buck stops with you. He said in a social media video, he grew up homeless with a hooker who was hooked on crystal meth. Oh, classic origin story. His dad's probably an accountant in Scottsdale. media video he grew up homeless with a hooker who was hooked on crystal meth Classic origin story his dad's probably an accountant in Scottsdale He moved to Kentucky in 2005 court records show he's had financial and legal difficulty stretching back to 2007 What I don't understand is how you get to because this was company was huge. How do you get that much money?

Yeah, it's also it's like well, why are you loaning somebody money that keeps showing you that? Yeah, is it did they I'm not saying you shouldn't do that or whatever I'm just saying that like it was like, you know maybe there was like a housing boom in Lexington in the last ten years and he was able to I Don't know get some big loans to start his own roofing company Like but I just yeah, I just I'm always amazed at how clearly non-functional Narcissists like this are able to amass that much money You know what I'm saying? Well, I think that's part of that diagnosis though, too

Is they're just good at like hoarding? Yeah, they can or whatever and convincing people that they're give them money good, right? Yeah in November 2020 He bought a four-bedroom four and a half Four and a half bath house in the Beaumont subdivision for six hundred nineteen thousand dollars in December of that year he married Courtney Harrison a former licensed in blue of poi they have a son Him and his family lived in Beaumont until January 2025 when he sold his house for more than nine hundred thousand dollars Jesus that's how much that's grown in that time shit his only known address now is a post office box in Destin, Florida The real reason I left Lexington after 20 plus years the all caps ongoing petty hatred

Listen he's not wrong about that. Oh my god on on his lengthy author page on Amazon where he self publishes such books as Roof Warrior and the Alchemy of Greatness under the name Dr. Brad Pagel, he says he's more than an author, he's a transmission. Where's his credentials come from? Where does he claim his credentials come from? Has he got like an honorary doctorate from like or Roberts University or something? Okay, his author bio on Amazon says he's built has built a rare bridge between the material and the mystical a rare It's a land bridge Finally somebody's bridge that gap finally his mission transcends tactics through his books His mission transcends tactics through his books This is so good he's so oh my god, he's not even good at it Whoa, he redefined he redefined himself as the message he was born to give the lean dad ethos

Everybody wants to be the lean dad ethos lean dad ethos through his platform lean dad development Lean dad development Dr. Pagel reveals the man behind the mission. He's a father first protector The lean dad Movement in the lean dad movement strength is not vanity. It is vigilance. Fitness is not aesthetics. It is alignment. Leadership is not domination.

It is devotion to a higher calling, a voice that burns through illusion. Dr. Pagel's spiritual voice, most powerfully expressed in the architect of reality in The Way Back, is unlike any in the personal development world. Written as direct transmission, these works do not simply inform the initiate Yet if you grew up in a trailer with a as he says hooker His words his words hooked on crystal meth. I don't think you get to be like a multi-millionaire with

You can go to Central America and do an ayahuasca trips I Mean it's possible sure some other input that he's not being honest and candid there's somewhere between somewhere between two lines of transmission Yeah, and my hunch is that input is probably some sort of fraud Embezzlement perhaps Yeah, very rarely do this is something that's always lost in the discourse and it's the case with JD Vance. Very, very, very, very rarely do poor people ever get out of their conditions.

Yeah, there's just so many pitfalls too that like snare you in that. Yeah, like you're never, no one lifts themselves up by their bootstraps That's why I'm always skeptical of JD Vance's stories story Yeah, it's like it's so rare that poor people are ever act You should always be wary of any like business leader or whatever who says they grew up poor There's probably what really happened is maybe they grew up with like a single parent or something, and they had some difficult times or something at the very most, right?

But even then, it's usually like being poor has, you're right, so many pitfalls it sucks you right back in. One trip to the hospital or something is gonna get you in a debt peonage basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get pulled over. pulled over yeah you know you get a bench warrant on you get stuck in the court system and right by the time you come out the other end of it you've paid $2,000 in fines and that fucks your life up for a year. Exactly or you like we said you can't pay your sewer bill or something yeah you get a

warrant for your arrest you're arrested for basically accessing what should be public services. Which the taxes you've paid in you know whether that sells to take sales tax or whatever paid for that in the first place Yeah, it's just not Like double jeopardy man Yeah, it's fun. You know well keep going keep going. I got a little anecdote about this sales as a spiritual path little anecdote about this. Sails is a spiritual path. Oh my God. Sails as a spiritual path.

Sails is a dark spiritual path if you really wanna get to the bottom of it. In Dr. Pagle's philosophy, sails is not just a career, it is a sacred art form dating back to the origins of speech itself. Dude, I don't know if there's anything that makes me more viscerally angry Than like a pseudo intellectual fucking like rising ground huckster

Oh, so we need to point out this isn't even like a Bitcoin guy. This is a roofing magnate Yeah, he's not even yeah like what do you expect it from the Bitcoin guy right like what he got caught doing was basically You know it'll say it later on in the article, but like you would describe it to me the other day like People would get him to come out and do a quote and they'd be like alright We're gonna come on March 23rd or whatever to do your roof, and then they would call and be like alright Well, we can't do it it We're coming moved into August August or and they just would never come in actually they just keep kicking the can down the road a friend of our money a friend of ours friend of the show I won't say His name if Casey doesn't want me to hear but he got called in somebody actually I guess took him to small claims court

over the bad Brad Pagle good Yeah, yeah over kicking the can down the road and stuff. And I guess what had happened is they had called, and maybe I'm botching some details, but the sentiment makes this true. But I guess they'd been a victim of that, you know. Well, you're supposed to be here in March. It's like, yeah, we've got you rescheduled for August 25th. You know, and then they were just like, you know,

okay, well, that's fine. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Somebody finally took him to small claims court because I guess they'd paid a deposit or something like that, you know, okay, well that's fine. Da da da da da da. Somebody finally took him to small claims court because I guess they'd paid a deposit or something like that, you know. And this friend of ours was called in to be a mediator. And he sat down and was like, you know, sitting there trying to work something out

before it goes before the judge. Right. And said that, you know that a few minutes into the proceedings that Dr. Pagel says claims he's a sovereign citizen and he doesn't recognize the authority of this court. Right. Da da da da da. And our friend kinda said,

listen, you may not recognize the authority of this court, but I wouldn't recommend going before the judge and saying that. Just in your own interest. I just wouldn't say that. So he said they hemmed and hawed for a little bit. And he said he usually just leaves after those mediations, but, you know, he went and kind of sidebarred with the judge and he decided to just get his popcorn out, stick around

and see how this went. He said that he got in there and did that sovereign citizen stick in front of the judge and everything. And so the judge just sat there and looked at him quizzically, looked at the woman who had taken him to court and said, ma'am, how much does this man owe you? And she's like, I don't know. It was like $3,000.

And he turned and looked and said, you owe her $6,000 now. And just hit the gavel. Hit the gavel. Don't know what it was like three thousand dollars, and he turned looks. I said you over six now He didn't sell the judge Apparently he should have sold that's the thing that's the funny. That's the ironic thing It's like his thing is like sales as a sacred art form But you go in front of the judge instead of trying to charm him or whatever like you try to you try to yeah Instead you try to big dick Yeah, you try to big dick the guy that actually had can make you a free man or in prison That's actually that actually makes sense because it says every action is a reflection of energy intention and identity his tactical sales books No excuses just results say it like you mean it be magnetic art of be magnetic art of the knock art of the knock

Are filled with practical ladies is not spelled like in okay It's like some sort of esoteric spell dude art of the not art of the knock are filled with practical language patterns Rebuttals mindset shifts and frameworks for objection mastery Like he literally thought this that actually makes sense him trying to big dick the judge was part of his Session master. Yeah part of his cells Mentality, you know that clip that goes around where the guy says he's manipulated time because he's like my first day starts it That's one of my favorite clips by the way. Yeah, he says 300 years ago and guys were living in caves Yeah, 300 years ago guys were living in caves. Oh, you mean when this country was founded by cavemen. I

Love that clip. Anyways, yeah, you're right. This this kind of shit. Yeah, that's that's the guy I think that's the guy that owns blue roof, but behind the persuasion lies a deeper purpose manipulated time. I've been it to my will He did to behind the persuasion lies a deeper purpose to I've manipulated time, I've been it to my will. It's like, how do you have that? Behind the persuasion lies a deeper purpose. To teach people how to live without fear, speak with integrity, and lead with presence. That's why you need a roof. That's why you need a good roof. Well, it's like, that's like,

like if you're saying all this shit, like is the person buying the roof at the end of it just like, wait, what are you selling me here? I just have a hole in my roof. I need a new roof. Yeah, but listen, it's one of those if you you teach a man to fish situations, you know? Yeah, I could fix your roof But what I'm giving you is worth more than any roof in the world. Isn't that kind of like I? Feel like America's got a long tradition of this type of thing like direct sales as the kind of

Medium or Vector point of a lot of different cottage industries tab that like there's a whole publishing industry dedicated this kind of shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like Okay, Elron Harvard probably wasn't a salesman, but he kind of was. He wasn't not a salesman. Yeah, it's like that, like sales is a fertile terrain for this kind of hokey philosophy type stuff. Because it's all about manipulating people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there's like, what's that Adam Curtis documentary where he talks about Edward Bernays, like who's Freud's like, what's that Adam Curtis documentary where he talks about Edward Bernays, like who's Freud's cousin, about how to manipulate people. It's just kind of like, sales is, like I said, it's kind of a fertile terrain. Bernays was kind of like, yeah, he's one of those guys that's like,

yeah, and then the other thing is, is like, maybe it's just because it's uniquely American, but like, some of this stuff kind of works. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like in the self-help realm, but when you look at a lot of these guys, I don't know, it's interesting. Because some of them, I think, were true believers

in name it and claim it kinda stuff, and fake it till you make it, and all that kinda thing. Some of them were just straight up con men. Art of the knock. It's like, apparently, that's's clearly this guy's gotta be a Trumper, right? Like art of the yard of the night. I feel like art of the devil be a riff on art of the night It's like, you know, I don't make deals, but I do make cold calls Let dr. Pagle is not chasing applause. He's building something eternal through He is his work is not designed to please algorithms or pander to trends it is meant to endure

Hey, that's true. The roof does not pander to trends You know what I mean? It's they've kind of been the same for a long time You're right Pretty simple technology not wrong about that. It's designed to keep the water out of your domicile. He's not a coach, he is a mirror. He is not a guru, he is a spark. He is not here to teach you who you are. He is here to make you remember. But with fire in their hearts and truth in their mouths.

I really want to read his book about the R warrior that the name of the roof warrior is I Hate to give this guy a red cent But I have to know what the roof warrior says I think you can read Because it says you can do like a quick look. I think you can ring and learn Knock for profit unlock your earnings how to close deals and increase your sales the roof warrior here we go proven tactics for adjuster showdowns adjuster a Just a gesture. Oh, I thought you said a gesture like as in like a more just add just or a DJ you

St. Er here. I can read a sample Introduction winning the claim game. If you're in roofing sales, here's something you already know, dealing with insurance adjusters is no walk in the park. That's because adjusters are trained to push back, minimize claims, and save their company money. But here's the good news. You don't have to take it lying down. You can outsmart, outmaneuver, and out-argue even the toughest adjusters. With the right knowledge... I would say he's not a bad writer. Yeah, I mean. I wonder.

That was not what I was expecting. He probably did this with like ChatGPT and then went back through and kind of like. Yeah, oh that's true dude. Oh man. Dude, I didn't even think about that, but ChatGPT is going to unleash on the literary world. Like, so many guys are gonna self-p self publish like this kind of stuff. Yeah. Oh

My god, it's gonna be so bad. Yeah, why did justers put you? Okay. This is all boring like I don't really know about like fucking insurance like Clay and why does he the alchemy of greatness? This one might be good. Let's say oh You can't fucking read a sample. Oh yeah, you can read a free sample. Read a free sample. The alchemy of greatness. Why won't it let me read this?

Is that what it says? Yeah, the alchemy of greatness. What is it about greatness that is alchemical, you might ask. Well, friend, I'm here to tell you oh no Okay, I Thought I just bought it on accident You won't click it. Oh, no. I thought I was genuine regret. Oh

No, it's gonna forever script your algorithm to You go get rich bad poor dad dad I think I did buy it on accident oh and it has like the thing from the matrix the red pill blue pill this is sorry it's so fucking why this book is different get ready I'm gonna punch you in the gut with the raw and deniable truth because sometimes that's exactly what we all need this book is a collision of mindset, motivation, execution, and mastery. Oh my god. The fire inside you. Let me ask you something.

Have you ever felt a fire inside you? A raw energy? A hunger? A restlessness? Like you were meant for something bigger than the life you're currently living? If you're still reading this, the answer is yes. meant for something bigger than the life you're currently living if you're still reading this the answer is yes Some people read that no actually I don't have any fire Tim Ferris is that Dead or Roosevelt. This is so what's about Tim Ferriss? He just has a quote from him. Oh my who's Tim Ferriss? Is he a Bitcoin guy? No, he's like the optimization dude, he's like a He wrote like four-hour workweek and for all and all those

Hacking the body hacking the business world kind of dates. I used to listen to Tim Ferriss okay they had Ed Norton on a show one time and I was like wait you don't like Ed Norton the actor I like him as an actor I don't like him as a guy really yeah not much what does he do it was he saying oh I just find him a little annoying dude I think I bought this book oh no no no no I didn't you get a free sample of the entire book. Oh The free sample is just the book. It's just the book That's not a very good model

These no PG Wodehouse, he's no PG. Well, there's a lot of reviews on these Like what are people saying? I'm starting my own business and I read this book. It allowed me to see a different light towards reaching my goals, very helpful. Definitely a book to read, not just if you're into sales, but helps you as an overall person.

I don't want to spoil it for you, but this book gives a great insight into being an active listener and that goes a long way. Two stars. Sign to sign Alex Trebek two stars Being investigated by Attorney General look up Lexington blue roofing. He's the owner take the info as you want interesting Damn that's some hate rate if you're gonna leave an Amazon review

To start but it's funny. They gave him two stars like it's not bad but he is a con man okay listen is this guy an absolute scoundrel sure but there are some precepts in here that do work back to the herald leader article Pagle does not claim to have any formal education or degrees and said he touts himself. Yes, he does He's got a doctor. Yeah He touts himself as a lifelong student of human potential a high-performance cell strategist and a metaphysical philosopher His Instagram references atlas shrugged the dystopian and unread novel His social media includes a mix of images of actor Keanu Reeves as Neo in the Matrix films as well as photos of his son. So he is he's basically the

middle-aged entrepreneur version of like the person that finds Tim Burton to be mm-hmm high art. This is Brad Pagel aka lean dad coming at you live in one take rough rugged and raw. Today's talk is gonna be about getting rid of the negative the weak the heavy the shit in your life That does not job with where you're trying to go You got a dick ourselves out of the shit. Is that what he says? No, it's Former employees said that the Roofing company was incredibly toxic and a grueling place to work.

The turnover was constant. New recruits would be lured by ads on hiring sites like Indeed. Week after week a new cohort of sometimes a dozen would arrive, be vetted by Pagle's subordinates and get two or three days of training. Job candidates sometimes met Pagle right away Other times not for weeks They were then taken to a neighborhood to knock on doors and see if they could convince a homeowner to let them rip To let them up on their roof Team leaders would go with them sometimes in pairs to coach the trainees and see if they were going to sink or swim

Some left immediately others lasted a few weeks There were no benefits So Also, though apparently on days when it was raining and the sales reps couldn't go out employees had to watch quote Boiler Room and Wolf of Wall Street movies that feature high pressure and often fraudulent sales for inspiration The reps were told to work the phones in the morning and then like there is the part where he basically made his employees take I waska right so they can unlock their potential what if you just refused would

you were you then summarily fired I think so I don't think I would want to take ayahuasca and get up on someone's roof No, but it also seems like they weren't doing much roofing either What the fuck? Employees were told to carry The coin they were given a large coin to signify they were now liberate members of Pegel's ordo de libertas Which translates to order of liberty or freedom? Employees were told to carry the coin at all times

Three team leaders told the herald leader and if Pagle texted them a picture of his coin They had to text a picture of their own back immediately or be fired Janky ass fucking coins welcome, sir. J. Briel, sir. J. Briel Sir, J. Briel Dominique Chafin. I'm gonna be honest with you. I may have killed him if I worked for him. Not because I'm some bad dude or whatever. I find him that grating just on the surface. Fagel sometimes took the team leads and managers to Jeff Ruby's steakhouse in downtown Lexington where he would book a private room to talk But not about roofing or even sales techniques. It was always psychological worse nonsense

He is a god and we need to worship him. He said that yeah, he these fucking coins that they Sent are very creepy, dude. No, could you imagine if what if your boss just took you into a room? Bought you a nice steak dinner. Oh, I am ago and then at the end was just like Just like just one thing real quick. You didn't know about me This is crazy This is crazy one of the office managers got fired because she was a Christian and she wouldn't agree with it with the One of the office managers got fired because she was a Christian and she wouldn't agree with it with the

Worship of him with the worship of him. Although Pegel told employees they were free to leave his order those who did were fired He talks about how he has transformed himself into this amazing godlike person. He thought we all had this super deep connection Everybody's like that's neat job, man Yeah, he wanted everyone to do an ayahuasca retreat together where they would ingest the psychedelic drug Pagel had touted the use of psychedelics in texts about his own quote pilgrimage Dude, this is crazy Dude his fucking group text. I'm so happy He's gotta be on fucking cocaine I'm so happy I hadn't had access to psychedelics to just play around with like a soup and wine with my friends for over 20

Years of that ceremony would have fucked everything up for me to have messed up my points of reference and ruin my tolerance He had to dabble me a bit under highly specific guidance a few times during my pilgrimage before the big jump too So I didn't just think I could read a few books hang out with my best buds and eat some shrooms and get it Because that's not actually close to what actually ended up occurring Gurus of India and shamans of America are a thing for a fucking reason Tartaria, Sumeria, Kemet orphan trains World Fairs He's just spitting dog dude. He's cooking oh My God

Man for a reason this is your average somebody hit that text with like For a reason this is your average somebody hit that text with Speak like speak it. Yeah This is like your average American small business owner. I love it like they are all like America's small business owners are truly Out of their fucking minds. They had they they honestly confuse themselves with deities because they like basically could you know start a you know

fucking rural king franchise Dude it's crazy. I mean there's been a lot of discourse this week about why are they all freaks dude? It's like that guy's telling you that made that trap beavers illegally to sell their pelts to make novelty beaver wallets that owns the McDonald's and Wine Spring. It like goes and abuses his employees. Is it because they know that this country rewards exploitation of like the oftentimes racialized underclass? And so they use that dynamic to like confuse themselves for D&E. I've said, yeah, no, absolutely, I've said this before, but the small business proprietor, the contradictions of society fall harder upon that person than they do anyone else.

I don't mean like materially, I mean existentially. Mentally, emotionally, ideologically. So you get, in a sense, why this guy ended up like this. 100%, yeah, absolutely. Like, because you are positioned in a place where you have power over other human beings, but you also see that it's a dog-eat-dog world. You could be devoured by a fucking massive corporation at any minute. Yeah, and so like

Your hedge against that is like shoring up your god well, and also America was created with this kind of dialectic of free enterprise industry Industrial revolution or whatever but also on the other hand like Jefferson's dream of the Agrarian democracy of the Yale men the fucking small the petty proprietor. Yeah, and like Obviously that vision has been completely subsumed into massive mega Corporation, but they allow

The dumbest guys with like these narcissistic traits to kind of run with that. Yeah, you know what I mean to keep Sort of the gears turning for them. Well, that's why the majority of people who participated in January 6 were small business owners Yeah, that's why I said the tractor supply guy the one that kicked his feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk Yeah on the tractor spot franchise in Arkansas. Yeah, like they, a lot of them were not only small business owners, they were downwardly mobile small business owners. So they were like literally going bankrupt. Getting eaten up by the Walmarts.

Yeah, exactly. And then like guys like this will probably never actually have to pay for any of their crimes, I would assume. Cause like bankruptcy, and I learned this from that Melinda Cooper book, but bankruptcy laws in this country, it is very, very hard to actually go bankrupt in America. Once you have a certain amount of money, yeah.

In fact, the laws are- Egon's giving it his best go. The laws are actually set up in such a way to make it almost impossible to lose all your money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, because you can protect certain assets, there's also the LLC, the pass-through entity, you know what I mean because you can protect certain assets. There's also the LLC the pass-through entity You know what I mean? Like it's it's hard to actually

Like be stripped of all your assets. Yeah, it's like usually yeah, and there's like mechanisms to like prevent liability that are conveniently You know geared toward people that yeah That need those protections less than anybody. The small business proprietor has to rationalize to themselves the fact that they are basically immune from certain punitive mechanisms of governance. But constantly at a disadvantage with the big boys. Yes, exactly, right. like they have to square that with

like I said all of the ideology and rhetoric we have about like bootstraps and Land of opportunity and all this so they create their own little fiefdoms in the form of like yeah Yeah, people that exactly getting paid bullshit wages to make money for exactly Enhance while all these people that own small businesses are absolute characters. Oh yeah. Yeah. And they're, yeah, they're this close at any given moment

to just completely going off the deep end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. I mean, it's crazy, right? Like, there's a reason poor people aren't storming the White House and Congress. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because, well, first of all, it's just difficult to even take time out of your day to go storm Congress. But also, it's like everyone is fully aware that the consequences that would be visited or, you know, reaped upon those that did that are nowhere near, like those January 6th people, a lot of them did go to jail, but like, pretty I think the most jail sentence one guy was maybe like six years or maybe 12 years But regardless, they've all been pardoned by Trump now

Yeah, they they won basically because they always win but they also always lose in a way if you're poor They're born. They're they're born to lose sort of yes. They right. Like if you look at them, they're all sort of hapless, but I guess made strong in their sheer numbers. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, like I've said, they are kind of a contradiction in and of themselves. Like poor and working people are under no illusions

about what opportunities are available for them and what they can achieve, and if or if not they they can't Can't or can't get out of their situation like they know that they are going to lose it literally does take like Agents of fortune to intervene in order for yeah, you know winning the lottery Yeah, yeah, yeah, or like a chance meeting with somebody some benevolent right and that can change or whatever You know what? I mean, we're being good at basketball or fucking yeah. Yeah. Yeah music or something Yeah, but like yeah, that's I mean, that's that's

the psychology of the Small business owner is always at war with itself like it is a fucking jumbled mess of grievance and self-loathing. Funny how this new age sort of philosophy has creeped into their views on business and stuff and life and all this. Why do they feel the need to extrapolate out further?

You know what I mean? Is that just like a Disaffected, you know disproportionately white businessman in America thing I feel like if I would have came here as a Chinese immigrant in the 20s to open up a Chinese restaurant I don't think I would have been taking like my workers back there and introducing them to the cult of Xander or something But like I could see how like if I am somebody who's, you know, my class station is whatever, but like my race, you know, gives me a certain, gives me a couple more options, I should say.

You know what I mean? How that like I could be the beneficiary of some, you know, different moves, make it, and then turn to an absolute cook because like I am a rare exception. And there must be something exceptional about me, I am God's elect. Well actually I'm a God.

Well yes, also keep in mind that the small business owner has less of a middle management layer between him and the workers he employs and exploits. So like for example, if you're someone like Elon Musk, you have a massive, yeah that massive buffer, right. Is so wide. So you can more easily delude yourself that you are a good person,

or that you are God's chosen or whatever. But like if you are a good person or that you are God's chosen, or whatever, but if you are a small business owner, that muffler. You're a natural disaster or an economic downturn in the community away from being, you know, a couple of missed bank payments. Yes, just like the people you employ. Yeah, right, right.

And you see it and you encounter it and experience it. So you're trying to create more space yes yeah by in this guy's case claiming that you're God and demanding that he be worshiped as a God yeah they are America's most volatile class I don't even know if you could call them a class maybe they're a subset of a class or a layer a class layer or something but like they are America's most like volatile country because they are Literally existentially and structurally a contradiction and that's just a fucking top. That's a very volatile Recipe, you know, I'm saying a very volatile mix of ingredients. Yeah

so But yeah, that's why they do January 6th. I mean yeah and the results speak for themselves. I mean Well, I have another story on that note, it's pretty short we don't have to go very deep into it But I gotta pee real quick. That's right. Go for it. I'm just gonna be reading a little load house I've said it before and I'll say it again I mean to say take just one small instance every other valet I've ever had used to barge into my room in the morning while I was still asleep causing much misery But Jeeves seems to know when I'm awake by a sort of telepathy

He always floats in with the cup exactly two minutes after I come to life Makes a deuce of a lot of difference to a fella's day. Oh Well, I expect I shall be seeing him at the club later at the club no doubt sir man's good stuff at the club Okay, I got a question Wooster See benevolent billionaire. Is he the only one he employs Jeeves. Yeah, that's a good question What's his business for good? This is I'll be honest with this is the first world house I've tacked he owns a slave plantation in Jamaica or something

According to the time it might not be too far off Mmm, I forgot to tell you that I Tried to do a sleep study the other night and it Crashed and burned I couldn't actually get to sleep and so they kicked me out Really? They didn't charge me though. That's which is nice We mean they just couldn't I couldn't fall asleep in those conditions. They do do the everything was very weird and bad about it like Well, first you have to get there really early, which is way ahead of my bedtime. I'm kind of a night owl

Well first you have to get there really early which is way ahead of my bedtime. I'm kind of a night owl And then like I made the mistake of taking drinking a shitload of water before I went I don't know why I did get piss about well And so you had to get up and piss a bunch but like which would normally be fine But when you're doing the sleep study you're connected to a million wires And so you have to call the nurse every time you have to get up to piss so they can unhook you I'm jerky off you did the jerk off motion. Hahahaha Hell yeah, that's only six grand you say.

Hahahaha Only six grand. For the best hand job. Capital Jeeves Capital. Hahahaha And like I started getting in my head about that and the fact that I was being videotaped while I was sleeping and it was hot as fuck in there

and the nurse who talked to me before that Was asking me about Trump and Elon falling out No offense you look up to the camera no offense to y'all watching me but man can't sleep in these conditions I couldn't sleep. I couldn't get to sleep. So eventually they came in and they were like, hey man We're gonna have to cut you loose. You're not asleep slept. I was like, yeah I'm not Can I reschedule this for like midnight tomorrow? But they kick you out like five in the morning

but The guy who was hooking my shit up who was putting these fucking electrodes on my head was like he was like Remember how we get to talking about this, but he was like He was like, I don't remember how we get to talking about this, but he was like, he was like, I'm a conspiracy nut man. Anytime you see those planes dusting, you know, they're gonna some bad weather is coming. I will be honest with you, not the guy you want hooking electrodes to your head. Uh huh. And then, although Prince was one of those guys too, Prince, I believe, and Kim Trowles, yeah. Well, and then later that later that night after I went home after they kicked me out I did go to sleep. I dreamt about Brian Wilson. I woke up the next day and he died. He was dead. I

Think I may have assassinated you may have to it tell Telepathically yeah, they may have put the things on my head to do an MK ultra thing and assassinate can you imagine like it's like that's it's one thing to just go for like a Routine like you know check up or something and you made a couple of characters We can you imagine going to a sleep study where you needed to be as tranquil as possible. It's already untranquilled situation And the guy who can electrocute your head Starts summer chemtrails. He was probably a Mike love devotee to Mike love partisan. So maybe maybe they got maybe the Mike love crowd got me to go assassinate Brian Wilson That would be a wild take to be like man Beach Boys or whatever. My club was the brains that operation

Like I probably thought that yeah Mm-hmm, that's a hell of an outing God only knows you're still gonna get a bill for that You said they didn't charge me for it's that they always charge you for something. Yeah, you're right. You're right All right this other story I have surely you heard the story about the guy that Was found torturing the Bitcoin guy that was found torturing the Bitcoin guy that was found torturing somebody in his apartment in New York? I heard whispers of this but didn't interrogate any further. Or maybe that just ran together with the roof guy. He is accused of kidnapping and torturing a man in

Manhattan in an attempt to get the man's Bitcoin password. So, this guy's from Kentucky, okay? After the possible raid of the $1 million quote Smith Mansion in Smithland, Kentucky Tuesday by state police, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, and the New York Police Department in an ongoing violent crime investigation. A rare rural-urban partnership. A rare rural-urban exchange. The NYPD was here in Yutaka.

That's like a Dane Justified where they come down from Lexington to Harlan. That's so true. A reputable public official with Livingston County confirmed Wednesday that the Riverfront property is owned by John Woltz. Woltz, who is originally from Paducah and William Du Plessis who is from Florida are two cryptocurrency investors accused of kidnapping and torturing a man in Manhattan in an attempt to get the man's Bitcoin password. According to eyewitnesses in Smithland helicopters and authorities could also be seen at another property at 750 Birdsville Road just seven miles from the city of Smithland. The county official who confirmed Woltz owns the Smith mansion on Court Street who was not at Liberty to speak publicly on the matter

Also confirmed that waltz owns the Birdsville Road property vehicles were recorded via drone video at the Birdsville property as well But it has not yet been confirmed if those vehicles belong to authorities or the property owner or if the Birdsville property was rated He the Livingston County PVA confirmed that the mansion is owned by a company named mr. Smith LLC It would be like if I started a company mr. Ray LLC is that like a fucking matrix reference Mr.. Smith mr. Marcella, I'll say mr. Massa Mr. Massa and I'll say governor myself I'll say This is how we're gonna Fundraise for my governor campaign my gubernatorial open a total campaign here in Kentucky

I'm you got I need a couple of goobers to help run my Mr. Smith LLC The property was sold on January 27 20 2025 for 1 million dollars and was deeded to mr Smith LLC the best business is registered in Wyoming the six-bedroom 10 bathroom Smith mansion is Offset by a gated property overlooking the Ohio River, complete with a tennis court and a swimming pool. Woltz 37 and Du Plessis 32 are in jail for the alleged kidnapping and torture of Michael Valentino Teofrosto Carturin, 28, and a townhouse they were renting in New York City.

According to prosecutors, Carturgin alleges the two tortured him for 17 days in an attempt to obtain his password for a Bitcoin account that contained approximately $28 million worth of cryptocurrency. I have to say, this guy held out for, how long, 17 days? I'm gonna be honest with you, for 28 million, I'll just. I woulda caved on day one. Like, I don't fucking, you know.

I've never had $28 million though, so I'm a deals guy if I Assess the situation And my competency in jujitsu yielded me no Advantage I would have said to them look here's the best I can do you all put the knives Weapon put the torture tactics away. Nobody, it's no fun for anybody. Uh huh. I'll cut you all in on this.

I'll cash out my nut right now. I'll give you ten million a piece. I'll keep eight million. That's a good deal. I'll take that deal. Yeah, same. Imagine this. You get ten mil and you don't, there's no police presence or nothing like that.

You just let me cash my thing I'll take my eight million. I'll give y'all ten million a piece and we'll just act like this thing never happened They got greedy. They got greedy. Give your microphone. They got greedy They got greedy Greedy buzzing. They didn't I hear a little buzz, too So gone now the Joe Diffie show Diffie national news outlets have reported that a traffic officer was notified of this when Carturian managed to escape the townhouse reportedly bloody and without shoes. Prosecutors claim Woltson de Plessis pistol-whipped the victim, tortured him with a small chainsaw,

urinated on him, and used multiple other instruments to torture him. Okay, okay. That's just that scene in Scarface where they hook him to the fucking bath. Come on It's kind of crazy that guys who were already millionaires were doing the torturing like brother You already had millions of dollars that you really need to do On Tuesday residents in Smithland said they were shocked to see 101 North Court Street blocked off by police black SUVs and armored vehicles with a helicopter flying overhead However, multiple people multiple people who live or work in the town said the presence of investigators was not entirely surprising

Anyways, I Looked at the the listings for this on Zillow and it's really wild For the this is what a million dollar house will get you in Kentucky, and I can't really show this on the show Obviously, but you can look it up. It's on one-on-one Court Street Smithlin, Kentucky That's a million dollar mansion in Kentucky a million dollars in California would get you like a fucking Gotcha. I've got you a damn. I got you a damn efficiency apartment In a building you got share with other people. That's great. Here you can have a damn palatial.

That's right. But the down shot I guess you gotta live in Smithfield. Yeah. I don't know, that might be a perfectly lovely town, I don't know. I don't even remember, Ben, I've never even heard of it. Neighbors along the riverfront claim to say- That where Smithfield Hams was,

Smithfield Meats, maybe. Smithfield Meats, maybe. It's just, it's it's just it's just people it's humans that have been tortured for their Bitcoin passwords. That's what Smith Will meets are human making this like Used to be the belly of a crypto guy Gosh torturing with a chainsaw. Oh, okay. I think you really have to take a step back here and be like look If you all kill me or even torture me like I have no you cut my leg off, but you're still not getting my password That's crazy. I mean I have to hand it to him. I thought that Millionaires were softer than that. I thought that they would cave pretty quickly, right?

He held out for 17 days getting chainsawed peed on pistol whipped some some people call that a good time Look at him he loves Those getting pissed on yeah, you got passwords you little piss pig you little piggy Man Yeah Yeah, you got passwords you little piss pig. You little piggy. Oh man. Yeah. I don't know. That's good stuff. Kentucky's so weird, man.

Like from cult leaders, small business owners starting their own fraternal orders of ayahuasca trips and whatnot to millionaires who are torturers. I have a theory about it, man. What is the theory? We were never supposed to be here. Oh, well, absolutely. This is just, it's just.

This goes back to the Cherokee. It's a narrative like, that this, like we messed with some forces we shouldn't have messed with by occupying this territory. Well, yeah, I mean, the, when they were doing the original settlement of Kentucky in the Transylvania What is that called the Transylvania company?

That was like one of the main companies that settled Kentucky that like Daniel Boone was an early agent for When they swindled the Native Americans out of a lot of land Imagine a land agent just come to you dressed in a raccoon skin cap and like deer skin suit and moccasins. Yeah. Honestly, that shit goes. Yeah, dude. In America, yeah. Yeah. No swag. That's true.

Eskimos can offer. Dude, a coon skin cap is so not swaggy, right? I don't know. It's swaggy to you? I'm on the opposite end of it. I appreciate it so... Not swaggy, right? I don't know, I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I But you have to admit when the tail drapes down that's kind of hard Fuck with it damn You're getting a letter from Peter. Oh, here's what I'm I don't think we should kill raccoons to make I think we should make synthetic Raccoon caps. Oh Okay, I'm with you. Yeah, I had something so now you've changed That case it is kind of swag. I

Had one when I was a kid. I had a synthetic raccoon camp used to have a Bookmark used to have was like a rat tail a rat tail that freaked me out always I'd see you leave a book on the table We lived together didn't have that rat's tail sticking out. I was like not a literal rat's tail It was um, it was a braid a braided mullet that had been cut off. Right, right, right, right You didn't like that. I didn't fuck with it was my idea for rat tail bookmarks Why don't you chase that you made a fortune? No, I guess they're my own cult rat tail cult rat rat tail king rat tail king

When they were doing the Transylvania Company deal, I think it was a Shawnee or maybe a Cherokee, one of the two, I can't remember. But when they did that deal, they told the, some of the, I can't remember, maybe John Severe was one of the people. Nice, like a Severe County. Yeah, that guy was a piece of shit, by the way.

They told the guys at the Transylvania Company after they swindled the natives out of Kentucky, and this is apocryphal, obviously, but I think it does ring true. This is why people think Kentucky means a dark and bloody ground, but one of the natives told those land agents, like, you have inherited a dark and bloody land.

So basically like all your, it'll be a monkey's paw situation. You think you're getting great land, but this will doom you. This will doom you. Yeah. And doom them at dead. Yeah, dude.

Doom them at dead. That's by extension. You imagine a native elder coming and telling you this, you're inheriting a dark and bloody ground and you just proceeding with them Mm-hmm. I'd have ran the opposite same same here. I'm going back to England I'm going back to be with my people nothing left to be done here old Tom. I'm gonna get out of here now quit bothering We just left it unsettled wait, I'm gonna go back to Jeeves Yeah, we just left it unsettled. I'm gonna go back to Jeeves

Yeah, I'm gonna go back to Jeeves and get some horse racing tips off of it. Yeah, dude. John Sevier was a piece of shit really bad, dude Dishonorable too. Oh I'd say a lot of these guys were yeah, Daniel Boone dishonorable Yeah, he was pretty yeah, he was pretty dishonorable. I mean but But I don't think he ever massacred entire villages. I mean, he was an agent for very fucked up forces, but like, John Sevier was the kind of guy that like massacred women and children. And we have shit named after him. Yeah, I wonder sometimes.

Now, this is just the, since we're on this metaphysical tip this afternoon. I'm just wonder sometimes like Are we paying for the sins of our namesake like? Did the whitesburg flood happen because Robert P. Letcher was probably a piece of shit. Hmm. His name would indicate that right? I guess so a lecture. Yeah Letcher us Robert P. Letcher us a lecture yeah Lettress Robert P. Lettress Yeah, now that's a very crude thing to say because

obviously, but You gotta wonder sometimes you do have to wonder is there a nominative determinism of a kind where? It's not necessarily the name that suggests what they're going to be doing but the quality of the person's character actually What's going to happen there going forward, right? It makes you wonder It's why Cincinnati thrives. I'm going to my grandmother's house Cincinnati's was you know An egalitarian, you know was he I thought he just what he just retired when people wanted him to And he just retired when people wanted him to.

Maybe that was true. Maybe Montesquieu I'm thinking of. They brought him out of retirement. He's like, I'm going to my farm now. I'm going to my farm now. I'm gonna go to my farm now. I'm going to go retire to my farm now. If you need me for war, you'll know where to find me. Ha ha ha.

Who was Cincinnati's contemporary? Spartacus? Maybe. He was pretty, I think he was a contemporary of Spartacus Maybe He was pretty I think he was much earlier than Spartacus. He was like maybe like five 400 BC. He was early Roman Like he in early Roman Republic, maybe 300 BC definitely not like sola or Caesar or anyone like that.

Lucius Quintucius Cincinnati, Roman politician military figure. What years? Who became a famous model of Roman virtue, particularly civic virtue by the time of the late Republic. He was born in 519 BC and he died and 430 BC that's right motherfucker. I just fucking Called it like almost spot-on It's famous obviously for the Battle of Mount Algedas people who think we're dumb and get everything wrong I don't understand that we do get some things wrong, but we also get

Listen they lay in wait to make to see when we've things wrong but we also get somethings right. Listen, they lay in wait to see when we've goose-stepped a little bit and then they say no no no no no see they don't recognize the 96% of things we get spot on. They're not recognizing the shit we get right. I'm sick of it. They're only focusing on the shit we get wrong. I'm sick of it. What if I came to your job and picked you apart like that? What if you did a 96% job but the 4%% I'm like oh Looks like you ate shit today Brad Exactly what the fuck dumb motherfucker oh? Man, who's laughing hysterically at me my god who's laughing hysterically at me? Funny boy oh my god

Alright we gotta go, but I hope you all have a happy weekend and that you go check out our patreon We would appreciate that we would appreciate that Yeah contribute the contribution to the patreon puts a couple dollars in the coffer of mr. Mouser's bed for reelection You know you want you you want mr. Mouser and the God King Bragg bagel always bless you accordingly Oh, that's right. See blue. I think you need to I think you need to start questioning your Appreciation of the color blue. Why is that? Lexington blue roof Blue like blue is

It's um Lexington blue roof. Like blue is, it's also the color that everyone thinks boys should want to like. No, I'm not saying we over correct and like pink because I do like some pink, pinks. I like some pinks. I'm also color blind though. That's true. So.

Red and yellow is out for you. Think about it from my perspective Why do they make the traffic lights the three colors you have trouble with? You thought about that that makes no sense That what's that does suck that would suck. It would suck if only our color. I'm not colorblind. I'm not colorblind at all That's why I run every light I'm colorblind. I stop at every light. I don't see color. Yeah I'm colorblind. I stop at every language.

I don't see color. Yeah. I saw that Howie Mandel is colorblind. I saw, I share that with Howie Mandel. There's two guys I know that don't see colors. You and Howie Mandel. All right, let's go. I gotta go.

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