Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 416: The World's Largest Haunted House

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Aaron and Tom discuss how few things in American life are what they seem, Hurricane Melissa, Trump's latest bullshit. Plus some audio of our Halloween special available now at patreon.com/trillbilly...workersparty

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good evening. I'm Bethany Bronco with Channel 9 News at 9. I'm here with Mr. Glenn Bobby Hobbs. Glenn is a survivor of a satanic cult and is now a pastor at a local congregation. This time of year, kids may be excited for trick-or-treat, but the real trick may be in your neighborhood at your doorstep. Mr. Hobbs, how long has it been since you announced Satan? In 1986, when I was coming out of... of my Satanist phase. I had a realization. I've been living alive. The church was where I needed to be. Glenn, can you tell us why you think that Halloween is the devil's holiday? In 16 and 2002, the Catholic Church decided to start selling indulgences, which is basically like
Starting point is 00:00:54 Halloween candy. Everybody knows that the Catholic Church is actually. the devil in disguise. Now, I wrote an album called Devil in Disguise. It was at first envisioned as a Satanist album, and then I turned it into a Christian album, because the record label decided that Satanism was not exactly popular anymore. So part of the reason why I'm a Christian now is because it sells better records between you and me. This is not just between us, this is on public record. We have to stop our kids from going to hell. On October 1st, every year, they get the pumpkins, and they get the plastic teeth with the fake blood on it. They get the witch's hat and the witch's tits. It's like a black mass.
Starting point is 00:01:51 As a pastor, what do you think of churches that partake in the trick-or-treating? One thing that's all pastor do. He made a little trail of candy that went all the way from the street and went all the way into the church and it led up to the baptismal bucket. And I saw no less than two dozen kids get baptized that way. They followed the candy and they fell in the tub and they got baptized. So it's not all bad. It's holy water.
Starting point is 00:02:23 It counts. Everything else they do on Halloween is an abysmal. affront to God. The mission for souls is a holy mission. Halloween is just another month where I have to go to AA a lot
Starting point is 00:02:40 and pretend that I read the book. Basically have to act to my whole family like I'm not going to blow up and try to ring one of the kids on my porch, ring the necks.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Because that would be bad. And not too. 1986, Dutch was trying to win a Cold War, but I was trying to win a war for kids' souls. And I think you should not mess with the Ouija Board. It always disturbs me. It was probably around 1968. It was me in Slice Stone. And we were trying to talk to Bobby Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:03:26 he had just been shot. A lot of our friends said that was a little insensitive. We should not have done that. So soon after Bobby Kennedy got shot, but this was 1968. And the thing is, in 1968, you could be a little insensitive. We talked to Bobby Kennedy, and he told us that Sir Han, Sir Han did not shoot him. That it was in the... In fact, it's going to come as a shock to a lot of people. It was Mama Cass from the Mamas and the Pappas. Glenn, wait, no one's ever heard this before. You're breaking the news.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Bob has been drinking a little bit. I am not in witness protection. I'm a real human being. Antigorn is an affront to God. Unfortunately, Christianianity is not a whole lot of fun. They don't let you eat candy. They don't let you dance. They don't let you sing rock and roll, they don't let you hang out at the skate park, smoking cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Those are all things that I like to do quite a bit. Glenn, it sounds like you may miss the old days. I don't give a damn what anybody says. I'm a believer, a believer in God. Mr. Hobbs, is that a marijuana cigarette? You do realize this will be broadcast on television. for all you Christians out there. Keep up between the lines,
Starting point is 00:05:00 don't ever riot in a major metropolitan area. Well, if you do, make sure it's on Halloween, and make sure that there's lots of fake blood. There's a lot of misinterpretation of Halloween. But I think at the end of the day, it all comes down to punds. Not a lot of people know this, but back then, what you could do was,
Starting point is 00:05:26 you would get a cassette and the last track on the album would be 20 minutes long and you could fast forward all the way to the very end and hear some secret message and I left a secret message at the end of devil in the skies and that is the punkins ain't what they The pumpkins That you are all of this You are basically You are basically inviting Satan's little messengers Right into your household
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, that's right. Pumpkins are of the devil. A jackaliner, basically an Amazon Alexa, to send messages right to hell. And that folks was the intro to our first foray in the video, the annual Halloween special. If you want to hear more, head over to patreon.com slash trillbilly workers party where you can get that. And now your regular episode. And welcome everybody to your free trillillies for the week.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I am your host Tom Sexton joining me as per usual as my right-hand man the straw that stirs the drink the coup de greire the feather and the cap Mr. Aaron Thorpe
Starting point is 00:07:32 What's good brother man I really appreciate those I don't know what you'd call those the specific word but those descriptions those descriptors superlatives Yeah superlatives Did you ever win any
Starting point is 00:07:47 superlatives in high school you mean um not you have that like in the yearbook where it's like class clown most handsome that kind of stuff most owned most most most uh most uh frequently inebriate most likely to incite uh resurrection that's right i in in middle school um they made up a special category for me and this is probably informed my life and probably preceded me wherever I went, but I was voted most likely to end up on the streets of New York City selling fake Rolexes and fake Oakley's,
Starting point is 00:08:27 which honestly, not that far off, honestly, from my ambition. Brother, there are much less honorable, you know, things to do in life. And also, too, what if throughout your life those superlatives stuck with you, you know? Like, you know, you'd have, like, you know like kings you know name like you know Frederick the fearsome or some shit like that
Starting point is 00:08:52 you know yeah yeah yeah the most likely to hawk wears you know on the streets of new york city yeah we're uh well i'll i'll just go ahead and tease it here but there's going to be a new podcast that uh we're starting soon horse pod i'll tease it now it's the essentially the history of horses a history told through different horses uh Are the horses telling their own stories? Well, in the case of some, like Clever Hans, who we've teased on this story, which was a horse they taught to read, sometimes it is the horses telling their own stories. But oftentimes it's the stories around the horses and crazy things that, you know, the ancillary things that happened around them.
Starting point is 00:09:38 But that's coming soon. So everybody keep your eyes to build a horse pot. Can I tell you something, man? I love all creatures of the earth. And, you know, as a man who recognizes the ferocity, you know, of nature and wild animals, you know, I love, I love, I love them all. But I will say, horses terrify the shit out of me, man. What's your bateful equines?
Starting point is 00:10:03 Man, I think it's just because they are incredibly strong, powerful. I know that they're, you know, that they get scared very easily. They frighten very easily. And, you know, we've domesticated them. But I just feel like, you know, if I ever was to. get kicked by a horse or chased by a horse or bit by a horse i'd be terrified man those things are big scary if you get kicked by a horse you probably wouldn't really know much about what's going on in the world anymore because you'd be you know hopefully would i put this
Starting point is 00:10:33 delicately hit the part of my brain not in your right mind that ain't longer you'd be a joe body now hopefully man it would uh it would uh it would knock out the phobia you know i have of horses by get hit in the head. But that would be a great outcome. You finally get kicked in the head by a horse, and it didn't mess with you, but it did eliminate your fear of them. That's the only difference.
Starting point is 00:10:52 That's the only cognitive difference. It kicked in the head, and now you can speak Mandarin in preparation for the Chinese century, brother. Listen, well, that is something that I, you know, there's the story I think we've told on this show of, you know, Meatloaf couldn't sing a note until he got hit in the head with a shot putt in high school, and then he had that beautiful,
Starting point is 00:11:13 operatic voice that he has that gave us such hits as I would do anything for love and two out of three ain't bad but also very true but yeah you know you hear those stories of somebody getting hit in the head with a taking a baseball to the noggin and then they wake up speaking like perfect Portuguese you know it's an interesting prospect yeah the mind the mind is a is just such a vast incomprehensible you know I mean like just part of, I don't know, you know, just, not even just the human body, obviously, but just sort of even reality itself, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Like how is it, how is it that you can, you know, create, you know, masterpieces, beautiful works of art, create machines that can, like, you know, reach the stars, you know. And then, you know, also, you know, commit some of the most heinous acts that the world's ever seen. And all that being said, you know, you get kicked in the head and, you know, jumble shit around. We don't even know how it works, you know. Yeah, that's true, man.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I wish that every TBI ended in, like, a net positive result, you know what I mean? And sometimes, I guess sometimes they do, you know, I guess sometimes they give us bad out of hell, the album, you know what I mean? Other times they give us John Federman, so much like life, it strikes and gutters, you know what I mean? But it's the day before Halloween You said you're afraid of horses Is there anything else you're afraid of? It's the time to confess your fears one to another Any phobias, any
Starting point is 00:12:51 I know no phobias But I did watch weapons Because it's on it's on Max And you were recommending that And one thing that I think Does like did scare me About that movie And maybe this is in relation to where I am
Starting point is 00:13:08 And I was like and you know especially maybe i shouldn't say this given the show given the uh setting of this show or the shit we cover but like the kind of rural areas and the towns the little weird towns in america you know oh oh oh so so a black man is self-censoring himself about rural rural wide america now i think you'd be forgiven for doing that i mean bad like i was walking i was walking uh one of the dogs man it was like 6 a.m. here in North Carolina up in the mountains and it was dark
Starting point is 00:13:43 as hell, you know. And just the way that movie used like, you know, shadows, you know, in darkness, right? Especially in the small town, you know, where anything at all can kind of happen. And I just always, you know, especially, I guess, being a black dude and
Starting point is 00:13:59 being here, Y.M., especially now. I will say, man, there is something foreboding. The suburbs are definitely foreboding in a lynchian way. But there is just something about this massive, expansive, especially the way that the night falls and the darkness, right? And the sounds, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:14 and just the fact that like people are, you know, like a further away from you as if you were to live like in a suburb, you know what I mean? So there's like this kind of sort of, I don't want to call it an alienation, but you are, you do feel like you're alone and by yourself, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, yeah, it's, I have the inverse relationship to because I'm from and of the very mountains that you're occupying right now. Right. And for me, it's like, they hug you, they hug you almost a little too tight. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think I've spent most of my life, like, trying to figure out how to get out of the embrace of that in a strange way.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And there's a lot I love about where I grew up at, don't get me wrong. But, like, there is a, a, I don't know. I'm going to sit with that a little bit longer. You know, you know, what, I'm like self-hating hillbill bit. I don't mean that at all. I'll offer something. I think what it is is that because most people occupy, live in cities and have cities like I did, right? And I'm not saying that, you know, because of the denseness, there's any familiarity or closeness.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I mean, if anything, it's even more alienating, right, than being somewhere where it's physically distant, you know? But I just do think that it, like, New York is a cosmopolitan city, right? And I feel like maybe I could not I don't want to like I don't want to Like mischaracterize what you're saying But I feel like that closest and that hugness It's the same way for Atlanta for me
Starting point is 00:15:45 It feels like a small town big city You know what I mean? Like it feels like I can't really escape it Even if you know it's very diverse And there's It has the sort of maybe Almost northern Sort of aesthetic to it
Starting point is 00:16:00 You know what I mean? Like a northern like it wants to be The New York City of the South Right Well, that's, yeah, it's like, what was Atlanta's original tagline? It was like, the city too busy to hate, which is like, The city too busy to hate. I don't know about that, but, uh, it's fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 00:16:15 But, um, no, man, I feel you, dog, but what, what thing I have to say to, uh, no one to hate on Appalachia? One thing I have to say, man, is, like, even right now where I'm looking at out of the mountains, it's, uh, it's beautiful, man, you know, it's beautiful. As, as kind of, as kind of spooky as it can be sometimes, uh, it's very, it's very, uh, purifying it away, man, you know. Well, the other thing about it is, it's like none of us are supposed to be there.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Right, right, right. It's the whole point of that, that area is like, I said I'm from and of those mountains, and it's like, well, by way of Northern Ireland. But you know what I've said. It's like, like, you know, there's all sorts of conflicting historical accounts of like what, the state of Kentucky specifically,
Starting point is 00:17:01 but probably Appalachian more broadly. was never supposed to be like occupied by anybody even the natives like only really only hunted there and it was kind of like a place where you just kind of get in and get out you know what I mean because of whatever cosmic pool was happening in that Ohio Valley you know Halloween man I think I think too maybe it is to where I was trying to go with this and you about you and I have talked about this on the phone and this is not like you know a novel point people have brought this up before but just sort of feels like maybe it could be Appalachia it could be just the
Starting point is 00:17:36 South in general the deep south is haunted you know what I mean and it feels like maybe it's just because so I've been reading black finally rereading or we're starting again because I've read some of it and finished it black reconstruction just because you know like I'm here staying in North Carolina
Starting point is 00:17:53 for a little and man like how do you how does if even a physical location I'm not talking about individuals historic individuals or estate, right? But how does even a physical location sort of, like, go through this process of absolution or purification, right, to rid itself of all of these haunting specters and demons? Because, I mean, obviously, this is slave land, but it was also taken from the native people,
Starting point is 00:18:21 right? And just the fact that you were saying that, like, certain places were supposed to be inhabited, you know, and due to like, you know, due to just like people moving out into the rural areas and you know all this development i mean on top of building that on top of like you know like where people died or were killed and enslaved you know like i just don't know how do you rid how does a place rid itself of that you know i mean that's not even a question i can't can it even be done you know i think we talked about maybe you exercise those demons maybe it was even talking about this like a little bit last year but uh around this time i think but you know we said something as like america is the world's largest haunted house you know and there's some haunted
Starting point is 00:19:01 houses i still think about the fucking slave castle in gana that you were telling me about like where the the viscera people that had been waiting to be part of the Atlantic slave trade and had died there and there's the it had calcified
Starting point is 00:19:17 and you could just you're standing on shit you're standing on yeah excrement and yeah as I still stays with me right so like there's some strong contenders for world's biggest haunted house for sure right right but then i think about like that university of georgia and
Starting point is 00:19:37 athens where they basically found like just mass graves of slave bones underneath the university of Georgia where we send young people to be educated do you know what i mean right right that's the legacy of america that's the that's the dissonance that i think drives me crazy it's not even the all the horrible things that have happened although that is like obviously terrible right But every place in the world, like, the history is made out of some level of violence and all that kind of stuff. So I'm not saying that, like, America has a, you know, a proprietary relationship with, you know, imperial violence, although certainly we've innovated the form, to be sure, to build on what the British started and the French. But what bothers me is that the dissonance with it and the way.
Starting point is 00:20:30 we still talk about it. Like I was, you know, like everybody, I doomscroll from time to time. And, you know, I came up on Matthew McConaughey talking about, like, his three intangibles that like he, like his three, or not intangibles, but like his three sort of grounding principles that he won't bend on. And one of them was like, never like, he's like, and I came from a house with the daddy who told me, like, son, you always tell the damn truth no matter what and da-da-da-da. And it's like, and I hear that, I'm just like, bro, to be an American is to live a lie.
Starting point is 00:21:06 To be an American is to repress the idea that like somebody, usually in Southeast Asia or, you know, or the Middle East or Africa or Latin America, whatever, had to fucking die and suffer so that we can have our creature comforts. That is our existence. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to hear some grandstanding about telling the truth. and we can't even tell the truth about our own fucking founding myths. You know what I mean? I've told this anecdote before, man. But, you know, I live in Georgia, and there's Stone Mountain, which is the Confederate Memorial Carving, which is actually the biggest bass relief sculpture.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It's bigger than Mount Rushmore. It's carved 42 feet deep into the mountain, 400 feet above ground level. And, you know, just forget even just the fact that it's this monument to these fucking losers. right. But I went there one fourth of July, man. And I went with my cousin the first time and I'll never go back to Stone Mountain, man, just because it was just such a surreal. Not until
Starting point is 00:22:08 they put outcast up there. Yeah, not until they put outcast up there, brother, man. But, you know, it's just like, seriously, though, it was just like, dude, like, you had black people and white people. We had all these people, you know, watching this laser show that I think was projected onto the face of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And they're watching this laser show and there are fireworks. And all I could keep thinking was, Frederick Douglass is what is the Fourth of July to the slave you know and just he you know he has this I wish I had it in front of me man but he has this amazing sort of um indictment of um um America's falsehoods you know and of you know this this this vanity and this pride right how he sees them as like these corrupted twisted lies that sanitize like actually in the moment this he's writing this like you know like um as I think the civil war is breaking out and it's just like what like how how am i supposed to reconcile the fact that as a black person i'm surrounded by
Starting point is 00:23:04 black people and white people this is exactly what martin luther came wanted right and we're celebrating the founding of this country and i'm like looking up into the fucking like you know what i'm saying the eyes the granted eyes of these fucking confederates robertie lee fucking um um jefferson davis and stonewall jackson riding their fucking beloved horses and it's just like so my blowed out I looked around it because I was like, bro, this is surreal. This is wild right now. And we just accepted it as normal in the course of things. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Right, right. You know, it's so, yeah, I don't even know. Yeah, it's hard to, it's really hard to kind of, that's the eerie thing to me. Like that, to me, like, there's a lot of talk, obviously, because we live in such a crazy times. And, you know, perhaps in terms of like, um, sort of the general psyche probably uniquely wild times
Starting point is 00:24:03 these are sketchy times brother yeah yeah for sure these are what they refer to as the times that tribe men's souls but thing about it is is like we've set the tone for this a long time ago this is not something that just happened like this is not some sort of like weird trick that Donald Trump managed to pull because he's got
Starting point is 00:24:24 you know some unique charisma or something you know what I mean this is started a long time ago and everybody that's come since it's just added to it it's just built to it till now we finally get our temple and that is Trump's sort of fascist regime right now Lee Atwater the southern strategy before that Reagan you know Clinton not doing anything about it and enacting three strikes and all this kind of stuff the reason that we have this mind-bending stuff is not because of some unique time that we live in. It is the culmination of many, many, many, many, many, many years of an assault on poor and working people of all colors, but disproportionately black and brown and so forth.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And it's like, I don't know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it is, um, yeah, man, I don't even know what to say about it sometimes. I just think about that in terms of like like the snap benefits like you're getting ready to like expire here in two days you know what I mean and like the Trump administration is balking on we live in this time where like
Starting point is 00:25:31 these monsters are just seeing exactly how much they can get away with without getting like mocked you know what I mean you know what I mean dude speaking of the best snap benefits man and sort of this just assault on poor working people I saw this video
Starting point is 00:25:47 that was posted by I don't know this woman Myla Joy I don't know she's some blue check maga woman and she actually looks sort of like Gladys from weapons
Starting point is 00:25:59 in her profile picture um actually you gotta look like the fucking witch but dude so it's this AI video man that was made with Sora AI and Malarjoy says
Starting point is 00:26:12 a lady gets 2,500 per month snap food stamps and she sells all of them for 1,200 a month. And it has this black woman in Atlanta, supposedly, speaking to a Fox 5 reporter and explaining like this, you know, supposed scam. And, of course, there's this community note that it's an AI video.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And dude, like, I don't know, man, like, just seeing, like, you have, like, this actual assault, you know, on, on the public safety net and on social systems, social service systems, right, welfare systems. You have this assault by the right. you have this neglect also by Democrats, but also neglect to do anything about it. But then that's like also propagandized into these AI videos, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Dude, it's like, to use AI, it's like, okay, much has said about slop and how like our, you know, our standards for like entertainment are just declining rapidly by the second, right? Like, that's all bad enough, right? But to use AI, And that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Like, that's what it is. Like, the other thing about it is, is everything in America is masquerading. It's something masquerading is something else. Like, we don't even have, like, air travel. What we have is a credit card scheme, masquerading is air travel. Yeah, you know what I mean? We don't have, we don't have a healthcare industry, right? We have an industry that actually would rather you fucking be sick and give you palliative care, right?
Starting point is 00:27:41 Then it's actually interested in curing anything or actually interested in, like, helping people, right? It's just fucking gouging them, dude. We have a system of debt pinnage that benefits nine guys that's masquerading as like caring about our health outcomes. Well, that was eight guys since Brian Thompson got his... Yeah, yeah, yeah, eight guys now that Brian got mobbed. So I was thinking about going as Luigi Mangione for Halloween and just making like an iron on a shirt that had like scrambling up the letters, deny, defend, depose as like the letters on the Ouija board, then putting guilty and not guilty on it. I don't know if I'm still going to do that, but that is a, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:18 I thought it might have been semi-clever anyway. But, but yeah, like everything is just masquerade as something else. And that's like, yeah, we've talked about, you know, social media is like, you know, was essentially mining our data, but masquerading is connecting everybody. Right, right, exactly. You know what I mean? And giving you a platform, you know. Giving you a platform, you know, giving you like an approximation of what it is to be
Starting point is 00:28:45 somebody you know what i mean and in exchange they're going to steal something right up from under your nose that's worth something to sell you bullshit essentially you know and now i has joined the the pantheon of things that are masqueraded as other things it's just like uh you know it's a tool basically to you know spread propaganda like this vile right wing propaganda but like oh but i get to see what it'd be like if elvis was a race car driver you know right right or SpongeBob was flying into the Twin Towers or some shit you know well you know not all of it's bad but not all it's bad but but see that that's the thing too of it is just like you know this like the fact that AI is actually perfect for that kind of propaganda
Starting point is 00:29:31 because you know like none of this shit actually happens right like none of this fraud you know this welfare fraud happens or if it happens it's like on a fucking like minuscule like percentage or level right which is not even worth considering talking about right worth considering but it's perfect with these people because all the shit they complain about they're all creating these these specters and these demons in their minds you know what i mean they're pulling them out of thin air so this is like just perfect to just justify like all the crazy insane shit they believe in because none of it actually exists you know and also too just think about the target audience like i was thinking about this man like the fact that we are so bombarded by images that i think
Starting point is 00:30:11 people have lost the ability to like discern right like like like visual stimuli right whether something is like literally we would be evolved being able to recognize faces and patterns you know I'm saying as social creatures we've lost all that because we're so bombarded by images all the fucking time and a lot of them most of them are fucking fake that it's not even just targeting boomers and shit like that you know on Facebook I've gotten fooled dog I've got I saw I saw some AI shit where it was like David Cronerberg's, um, you know, unreleased like, uh, uh, uh, concept art for some fucking like love crafting cosmic horror movie and I shared it. And this was like a couple years ago. And somebody was like, oh, damn, cosmic slop or whatever my name was, a sharing
Starting point is 00:30:56 AI shit. And I was like, dude, I got tricked. I still do get tricked by this shit, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, it is, it's weird. And it's like, you know, it's, um, you know, it's, it's still, like what I don't understand is this it's like so if 80% of our financial market is tied up in AI speculation and only about 13 to 15% of it they have a plan for how to monetize it to actually produce gains for shareholders or whatever for it so there's still this disparity between like where the level of investment is versus how much they can actually kind of make good on it you know what i mean now imagine that all that vapor in between those two places is essentially geared toward trying to reinforce um welfare queen propaganda and stereotypes and different things you
Starting point is 00:31:54 don't i mean right and antifa violence and shit like that too antifa violence all the things that keep these people up at night or the or at least if it doesn't keep them up at night they pretend it does so they can use that to keep people in line sort of you know you know It's like, it is weird. It is like, like, we're a masochistic nation. We're also the old late nation that, like, arms to the teeth, you know, a taxpayer-funded paramilitary group that we pay out of our own pocket to harass us. To beat the shit out of us, too.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah. Yeah. I'm just going to tell you what happened to me recently. This is the first time I told this, okay? I went to jail last way. Oh, shit. What did you do? Two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Let me tell you, I'll just tell a story. right so i basically i got like the day after like the floods hit eastern kentucky in 2020 i got a speeding ticket in winchester kentucky and like dog my mom was in the hospital getting ready to die like my whole fucking town was underwater my childhood home was gone my sister's house gone my aunt and uncle's house gone cousins gone all the worst things that could possibly happened to somebody, you know, injury to family and home, you know. My sister almost got sucked into a culvert and died and drowned. Like, that's how bad that she was.
Starting point is 00:33:16 You know what I mean? Like, my nephew actually grabbed her, like, at the last second, had their family dog underneath his arm. She would have died, like, straight up. And it was, like, I, and then the phone lines were down. So, like, I'm hustling to get back because I can't, I can't contact anybody. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:34 So I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I'm not, you know, like, everybody, like, I have. friends calling me couldn't talk to their wife and kids for like two days that's how bad that shit was and so we're going and uh i just i get pulled over and i explained to the cop all this stuff i was like man like here's i'm just i'm sorry i didn't mean to like just hoof it through here but i'm just trying to get to whitesberg you know because like this is what's happening wait here and just like it just like it keeps me like goes out to this like fucking cruiser i I hate all these fucking, dude, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:34:07 like, I know it's like, whatever, grandstandy to, like, just talk about cops. But cops, like, you really do have to have some sort of mental deficiency to be, like, not to, like, stay in place. I'm not saying, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:20 everybody could get anybody, for any rural white guy from a small town could get seduced into cop life, right? But I'm talking, like, if you don't have the presence of mind to, like, quit that, you know, or get out of that or whatever, you know. You're a fucking, I just want to say,
Starting point is 00:34:33 you're a fucking bully, dude. You know, that's essentially what you do. What you do is bully and harass people, you know, and frustrate their fucking lives, man. So, I'm sitting there, and he's like, and he keeps me sitting there probably almost an hour. Finally writes me a ticket and all this shit. Like, doesn't even, not even like,
Starting point is 00:34:52 hey, man, I understand that. Like, just kind of slow down and be careful. Right, right. You know, like, if you were a real public servant and not a fucking fee grabbing, cunt, that's how you would handle that. You know what I mean? So I just kind of threw the ticket in the glove.
Starting point is 00:35:05 box and kind of forgot about it well around last christmas time friend of mine and i were going to eat at claudius sanders restaurant and uh outside louisville colonel sanders wise restaurant which if you've never been there i have to tell you this shit is good yeah he had a wife huh he had a wife yes yeah if you can believe it so go there and like i get pulled over and the guy's like uh yeah man i just like ran your license and your license is suspended and i was like Like I had a friend of my friend of the show, Josh Hicks actually got it taken care for me. And I had like the court that receipt and everything, you know, like showing that like, you know, it was satisfied and all that stuff. I was like, man, it's probably just not popped up in the system, but I can just show you here, like where all that's taken care of now.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And that should be good. I paid my reinstatement fee to the state and all that stays like, well, man, I don't know what to tell you, but like it's still showing up and suspended. and so I've got to cite you. And so gives me the ticket for driving on a suspended license, right? He goes, but I'll tell you what, like if you can just get somebody in Clark County to forward that court net receipt showing where that had been satisfied to us over in Shelby County, then they'll just take you off the docket and throw it out, you know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:36:25 So I called Clark County and had them do that. I thought it turns out somebody's somewhere along the train of command. and dropped the ball and I just, it's probably foolish for me to follow up. You know what I mean? And just try to see what was up. So the other night,
Starting point is 00:36:42 like, my truck tags had expired in September. So like, it is now October. And I plan on going to get them whenever the Patreon hit, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:54 whatever. So I didn't think of anything about it. And I thought that like I thought like I was actually fine because like I still have my license and like whatever right you know what I mean so I was just like whatever and like I had reached out to them and like explain like hey you know I've something somewhere along the train to command before even before this has happened and whatever and they're like okay well we'll look into it there and they said yeah I can see where you've paid your reinstatement fee and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:30 and on our end it looks like everything's okay so i just i was like okay fine you know i didn't think like i'm straight i'm good yeah the other night i get pulled over because my tags had expired and i was just pulled in the wind he's getting me a root beer fixing to go play hoop dog i'm out there in my ball shorts i've got my jordan's on i'm laced up i'm ready to go you know what i mean and they pulled me over and i just handled my license registration insurance they're going to straighten everything i think they're going to write me a ticket it for my expired tags and then like but I was just going to go get them anyway so it's
Starting point is 00:38:05 like I'm just forward where I've got on whatever and they usually just throw that out you know and he said Mr. Sex how did you step out of the vehicle and I was like god damn like those words what? You know what I mean? I'm thinking when you hear those words man like
Starting point is 00:38:20 I don't know man my heart drops you know what I'm just like god damn dude what the fuck is it now the thing about it is is like I got the heads up from friend of the show Josh Hicks again that like there was a judge that gave me a failure to appear and issued a warrant for me
Starting point is 00:38:37 but when I called them they told me that like basically like you know we'll get you on the docket or whatever you know and I'm thinking like okay well that's dropped then like I'm fine you know what I mean like dude this is some this is some I just like real quick interject this is some Kafkaesque like the trial shit
Starting point is 00:38:54 where I think what is this bizarre story where this guy is like brought to a court, you know, before I judge for, I guess, a crime he didn't commit but it sort of underscores the Byzantine sort of just intricacies and just
Starting point is 00:39:11 a bureaucracy, you know what I mean? Just the fact that you're not the one these, you rely on these public servants, these civil servants to like do the thing that allows you to keep driving and not get pulled over the police by the police. So once you give that, once you give that over to them, you don't know what fucking happens, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Well, I told the woman in Shelby County after Josh told me that right and I was like right so I told her I was like and she was like well usually what happens if you get picked up then you get bonded out and then we'll give you a court date she's like well we'll just give you a court date and I was like cool like I'll be there and I'm just thinking that like everything in the system's good I've paid my reinstatement fee that was satisfied like that like this is in error so I just assumed it she was and she told me she was like it looks like you know everything is okay from our end uh turns out turns out that until you have bonded out or that you actually face the that then but that was not
Starting point is 00:40:08 communicated to me clearly do you know what i mean you had to face the judge first i thought that when she was like i'll get back to you with a new court date which she did but i got picked up before the court date uh so you're not supposed to even be driving before the court but I guess it was not articulated to me what I was supposed to do in that circumstance. Do you know what I mean? Right, right. No, I didn't know exactly what you mean. Because I'm thinking I'm going to, shoot, okay, now they've dropped the warrant or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I'm going before the judge. I've got a new court day. I'm going to go before the judge and just tell her like, this is in error because here's my court net receipt. Then the whole thing gets tossed. Right. And you'll be able to drive your vehicle in between that whole top. And I called the transportation cabinet in Frankfurt that says, yeah, I can see where you've paid you're in statement fee. looks good on our end so I'm thinking I'm straight you know what I mean so I'm driving they put
Starting point is 00:41:02 they said it's like we've got a war a show cause warrant in Shelby County for your arrest and I'm just like oh what the fuck I just got off the phone with them like two days before that you know what I mean so any case they cuff and stuff me dude like they like cuff me right there for a god and everybody pat me down do the whole nine right you know what i'm saying it's so i was like can i can i can i roll the windows up in my truck because i had it parked on the side of the road and i was like is it legally parked there can i just like move it up and like roll my windows up and like now if you just want me to go down the courthouse and bond out for whatever i'll do that like this is like why you know unnecessary right right putting the cuffs on you shit yeah so like whatever
Starting point is 00:41:47 takes me down there i end up in booking with these four dudes one of them looks like Theo Vaughn if he was short and had fallen on some hard times and he was in that there was this other dude there black dude that he got a chunk of his lip bit off and was just pleading his story with everybody that would come in there and he was just like uh bit off by a person yeah yeah he was talking about like he just kept saying this bit shot at me this bit shot at me and i was like all right my man's working out some demons over there and he just keeps telling me like he's like telling me the story i'm just sitting there my mind is a ways away from his story but i'm trying to like kind of nod and act like i you know
Starting point is 00:42:26 you sometimes need somebody to talk to when you like cuffed and stuff you know yeah you got shot at a chunk of your lip is missing and then there's this other dude facing me that kind of looks like you know alfred molina from boogie nights the actor that's you know he's got a coked out scene or whatever it looks like alfred molina like but like the older and kind of put on some weight version you know what i mean yeah it doesn't and he's like got psoriasis on his legs real bad and his bond was like 70k so i don't even know what the fuck he did what the fuck and he's just like he just kept muttering to himself like they'll never get a dollar out of me they're not getting and i was just like brother i promise you they will find a way to get a dollar out of you i don't
Starting point is 00:43:08 know anything about the state apparatus they'll bleed you like a stowed brother yeah and i'm sitting in there and like so i've got this dude over here with the chunk bit out of his lip that was involved in some sort of domestic situation that involved gunfire. I've got this guy that I don't know what the fuck he did, but his bond's so high, I shudder to ask. And then I got Theo Vaughn over in the corner, drunk as hell. About that time, this dude Hassan that I recognize is like, he was like a waiter at least Mediterranean restaurants I go to around here.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I'll take, I'll get his name picking out. I shouldn't say that. But he came in and I guess he got picked up on, like they found like a little bit of weed on him or something like that. So I got to talk to him later. the bad out. So I go in the, I go in the truck.
Starting point is 00:43:55 They book you in the whole shit, right? Right. So. Finger pinching and shit? Yeah, the whole nine. I'm like, God, damn, now I'm in the sister. You know what I mean? I hate that shit.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah, yeah. So, uh, it's very different from getting picked up for like, and just thrown in the drunk tank for a night in college or something like that. I was like, right. So they put you in this area.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And like, they've got the phones on the wall and you can make a phone call. They won't let you use your phone call. phone and I'm like can I just like pay my bond because there's like a website you got to get call somebody to get on a website and pay the bond right I was like can I just get on my phone real quick and pay the bond and I just show you the receipt get the fuck out of here right right like and I'll call Shelby County the more and figure out what the fuck is going on and who dropped the bond whatnot so you know whatever I'm sitting there and like their my arresting officer comes in and he goes And, like, you know, I'm over here, like, these dudes got some real shit.
Starting point is 00:44:53 This dude's just in there, just trying to sweat it out till the morning, you know? It's like, Mr. Sexton, with a traffic in. I was like, no, I'm in here for a traffic incident. That's the fuck. Look at you, be like, you're here for a traffic incident? Yeah, yeah. That seems like I'm just, don't embarrass me in front of my new friends, bro. No, I'm in there.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And they put us in, like, the place to make our phone calls. And, oh, boy, they got the chunk bit out of his lip is over there talking about. He's just like, he kept on, like, saying he's funny. rhymes he's like because the the uh the uh the pre-trial officer came in there and was like telling everybody like what's up and he talks to that guy and he goes yeah it looks like your wife and your girlfriend both have EPOs on you he goes shh EPOs from both my hoes and he kept like kind of wrapping these little jingles to him so and I'm sitting there I'm like this is wow about that time this guy walks in that looks like
Starting point is 00:45:50 he looks like if carrot top was the Steve Bishimi Hello Fellow Kids meme because this man's well into his 50s and is dressed like he's like 14 or something you know what I mean and he walks over there and he's like anybody want to fight like trying to act like I don't know if he was just making a joke or trying to act tough
Starting point is 00:46:10 or what it was but he had like an SS tattoo on his forearm and I was like, what? Are you fucking serious? Yeah and I was like okay this is like about that time this woman who looked like she'd seen better days comes in there. She's on the phone. And she just starts yelling at somebody.
Starting point is 00:46:27 He's like, eat my cunt, you broke dick motherfucker and all this stuff. And I've just sitting there thinking like, yo, I try to call Terrence, but what happens is it turns out when it rings you up, it shows up as a number in Clearwater, Florida,
Starting point is 00:46:42 because to call in and out of jail, they've got like a telecom racket where it's like super expensive. So he's got to accept the charges. So he just thought it was like a telemarketer or spam call or something so he just hung it up and i was like fuck you know so eventually i get a dear friend of mine to come and like you know bomb me out later on but there was still this process about of how long were you there for i got picked up i guess around six or so and then i got out like
Starting point is 00:47:14 in the wee hours of the morning you know like sometimes i don't know i kind of lost track in there but it gets crazier though so I'm thinking I'm just going to hang out in the area until somebody bonds me out no dog they they put me in the orange jumpsuit they put me in the orange jumpsuit hold up
Starting point is 00:47:35 wait for a traffic violation dog they've locked your boy up and it's because so I'm in there right and I'm like Like, why? And so, like, dog, here's the, here's the real criminal part. I learned a lot of things about the criminal justice system, that not.
Starting point is 00:47:57 So for starters, one, they hand you a jumpsuit that's raggedy as hell, and they hand you, like, the sandals and shit. And, like, they got the whole, like, the t-shirts. They give you a white t-shirt, which is, like, not even a crispy white t-shirt. It's like, I know how much you motherfuckers get funded. And y'all can't even get nobody like a fresh haines or something here. I got, like, a fresh kirkling tea, bro. Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:48:19 What the fuck is this? So they take all your clothes off your person. You know what I'm saying? Like everything, they put it in there. They put me in the orange jumpsuit, and then they throw me in the cell with the guy missing part of his lip and Alfred Molina with the 70K bond, who just keeps looking at me and saying,
Starting point is 00:48:35 I can't wait to eat that hard-boiled egg in the morning. And I'm thinking, bro, I'm just up, I'm just up pace. That's one of the most medicine things that you can probably hear you when you're in jail. dude he's that dude was so creepy and so i'm in there and oh boy's had the trunk bit out of his lip just he keeps pleading his case and he's just like he's like he looks at me goes do i look like a woman beat or do i look like i'd beat a woman i was like brother i'd hope not but i i met you like two
Starting point is 00:49:05 hours ago i don't know you know and he starts telling me about how he's got his own business and all this stuff and i'm like brother listen i will sit here listen to you all night but ultimately you're just going to tell all this to a judge and i'm like i can't get you out of here And I, you know, you may be the best guy that ever walked the face of the earth. I don't know. No, he's practicing on you, man. So we're sitting there. And he goes, and then he says, then he drops the line.
Starting point is 00:49:28 This is where I put my, my hands in my, my face in my hands. He goes, shit. He's like, I knew I shouldn't have been fucking with no white bitches. And he looks at. He goes, I'm going back to black queens. And he looks at me and Alfred Malina. And he goes, y'all ever had any black pussy? And I was like, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Just get me out. You know, this is exactly a Martin Luther King, what it, bro. Hey, you know what? Interation Coke, look at a jail cell talking about black pussy. Well, Alfred Molina speaks up. I just kind of shook my head and just kind of look down. Alfred Molina speaks up because actually there was a very nice black girl that I dated for a little while when I was in high school, played on the basketball thing.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And I just got, when he said that, I just stood up and started pacing. I was like, God, God. So we're sitting there And then we're just talking about like, you know They just kept talking about like The quality of the food in there Which in Fayette County They give you a baloney sandwich
Starting point is 00:50:28 With a pack of mayonnaise and a banana Brother, when I got Same thing in Atlanta At the Atlanta detention center And man, when they gave me that shit I just used it as like a pillow To lay my head on You know, when I was in the cell
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah Now I don't even bother eating that shit man No I couldn't go there but you know and perhaps another manifestation of Martin's dream the guy with the SS tattoo and the guy with the chunk out of his lip
Starting point is 00:50:55 they were trading like fruits back for one of them had a banana one of them had an apple and they were like you know bartering so did it so did I mean you know maybe most people would look at that and not even know what it was but was there no was there no like surface level
Starting point is 00:51:09 animosity from SS dude no he came in and tried to fight everybody but I think it might have been a joke but I don't think anybody was in the move to hear it You know what I mean? So I was thinking, yeah, I'm probably going to have to, like, if he sat down, like, right next to me and he was just like, is the pre-trial guy came in yet?
Starting point is 00:51:28 I was like, no, and he was drunk as hell. They were all drunk as hell, you know what I mean? Not the guy with the lip chung. He was fighting his own demons, but, you know, everybody else had their thing there. So, pre-trial guy comes up, and, you know, he was like, this, like, very nice West African dude, and he was just, like telling me like what was up and everything and then he
Starting point is 00:51:51 says the game he's like for traffic I was like not traffic man like thought somebody something give me anything other than traffic you know whatever so about that time my wrestling officer comes back through there like I'm already
Starting point is 00:52:07 booked and everything right they've already taken everything off my fucking person and he goes Mr. Sex I just wanted to make sure that like I had searched you well and all that kind of stuff he's like did you have any like we or like Coke a little bit in your sock or anything like he's like I won't I won't I'd add it to your charges I just want to know so I can get rid of it I'm like yo go I didn't obviously but like I was like yeah okay and I just dig it dig it figures up your booty hole
Starting point is 00:52:31 and just put out like a bag of coke or something like that like yes officer you go I should I was like you know man if you'd have been here five minutes ago but me and alfred Malina and the guy missing part of his lip have already you know hit the rest of my sock so in any case uh yeah the bureaucratic uh you know chain of the state is geared toward part of it is part of it i found out is the humiliation ritual is built into it right you know what i mean but then the other part i found out is like like like somebody can bond you up but they won't let you out till like it hits their system and it's all just to kind of like you know fuck with you a little bit eat a little bit
Starting point is 00:53:15 more of your time up aggravates you a little bit because it's like you're sitting there and you're like there's 14 of these motherfuckers that are all just like making jokes to one another that could be very helpful to people that they're viewing a scum of the earth because they've got cop rain you know what I mean right right right but also too man I just want to say like just like just the fact that you would think that computerizing updating these systems and I don't know if they are updated but you think that it would you know make it easier and faster for people to like, I mean, you're already in a fucking horrible shitty situation, you know, especially for like a traffic violation,
Starting point is 00:53:51 but you would think that that would allow the process to go along smoother. But just this sort of like, what are they doing fucking facts and shit to each other? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just so, it's just so archaic and on top of the bureaucracy of it, I think that's part of the suffering, you know? It's intentional or so to like keep you like a little more immeasurated. Right. And a little also too on edge.
Starting point is 00:54:15 and the fact that you don't know what's going to happen you're just waiting a lot of it is waiting and when you're sitting there waiting you're like okay who's going to come out next what am I going to have to do next you know and that is that feels like part of that ambient punishment you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like it's like a fucking little personal purgatory that they create for you
Starting point is 00:54:35 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah it's I don't know where I was going with that exactly how I was going to tie that back I turned into a long meandering story but no man but i think i do think that i don't know uh tomorrow is Halloween again man we've been talking about specters and ghosts and just i don't know just how dead and i guess necrotic i guess is the word you know this entire fucking system is dude you know you could have somebody fucking because somebody fucked up or somebody didn't do their job or the system is slow whatever it is that
Starting point is 00:55:09 you have to sit in hell you know yeah yeah yeah that for milina yeah yeah well that was that one in any case uh yeah well shit man he did some hard time brother a couple hours you didn't get no you didn't get no you didn't get no tattoos no i didn't didn't get no stick in poker six i didn't have to convert to political islam you know what i mean i think like yeah yeah although make no mistake i would have you would i was caucusing with uh with the muslims before i was joining uh you know SS guy the boys
Starting point is 00:55:45 but oh brother if you came out wearing a coofy and talking about black power you know and I'd be like
Starting point is 00:55:53 all right brother Ben hell yeah so anyway that was part of my overdeal
Starting point is 00:55:58 I had some stuff pulled up for us to read today namely taking it back to our
Starting point is 00:56:09 ancestral motherlands about the you know the Hurricane Melissa that's went through
Starting point is 00:56:16 not only Jamaica but also Cuba and Haiti Yeah I think it's the most devastating hurricane in Jamaica's history That's what I read Yeah these pictures
Starting point is 00:56:26 Are absolutely insane But I mean Also heartbreaking too But it's like Like I look at the Jamaican landscape And it's crazy
Starting point is 00:56:35 Because it looks just like Where I'm from If it had a beach Right Right Right Like the mountains and stuff Yeah
Starting point is 00:56:42 Well man what's um i know this is a you know it goes without saying but you know these are just the first communities that are hit you know and we have climate change related storms floods you know and it's like i think one thing i was kind of thinking about is i think one characteristic of i don't know even what to term this sketchy time now um whether it's mass shootings or whether it's extreme whether um you know or whether it's i don't know like i feel like those two things like they seem as if it seems like the apocalypse is is sort of i mean for maybe most people it's sort of drawing back closer to the center and to people you know what i mean like one thing it's like it's one thing
Starting point is 00:57:27 to see something happen far away right in a different country you know but um now we're seeing these things whether it's mass shootings or whether it's you know something like whether when it happens to you in your like hometown or near your neighborhood or to your family like for me to be calling my uncle to see if he's okay you know what I mean yeah um what had happened to you guys I mean it's just like it seems like it's it's happening distant to like you know people that we don't even think about but as it becomes closer and closer and draws nearer to home into your actual personal life you know that's when people are like oh what the fuck what do I do you know yeah there is that line that's that's a great line from the the book the choppo boys put out a couple
Starting point is 00:58:06 years ago where they said that the end of the world is here you just don't live there yet right exactly you know what I mean I think about that line a lot because like I it's like when the shit happened in eastern Kentucky during the flood I didn't have a fear
Starting point is 00:58:22 of floods whatsoever like never just never even thought about it you know and I knew like I could see on TV like the horrible toll it takes on people and all that stuff but I just thought that's something for somebody else somewhere else you know what I mean and we tend to think that you know oftentimes like that you know it's just these are problems for different people
Starting point is 00:58:43 and we can't empathize in the same way because it's just never happened to us but like we've we've done a number man and and that that end is coming for us and like what's going to be our response to it not to get all dumer about it but like we might have you know it could just be a political stunt and like the snap thing will be much to do about nothing and then everything will be humming along fine by you know Monday morning but like the spectra of even like just somebody thinking about trying to starve people out you know what I mean and the way that people who have you know been victimized under the system and forced to like work to create surplus value for somebody else at the expense of their own brief time on this planet and then to turn around
Starting point is 00:59:31 and say to that person like you don't even deserve to get what you need to just maintain yourself so you can continue to sell your brief time on this planet to me essentially at a pittance of what it's worth you know what I mean it's it is it is yeah I don't know it's I think it kind of dovetails with everything that we've got we've been kind of talking about briefly on this episode but it is it is a situation where it's like are we going to be obedient have we been housebroken to the point that we're just going to walk into the wood chipper or like how do we continue to fight back in ways that you know are not going to immediately land us like it feels like that
Starting point is 01:00:16 deck is so stacked against us and like what's the asymmetrical tactic for the every person in society to kind of push back against this you know what I mean and I think that's kind of an open question but I am encouraged by when I see people you know like the guy that was just basically stood on business in LA I guess last week against ice was like I'll die for this neighborhood like what do y'all want to do you know maybe that's what it is
Starting point is 01:00:42 maybe it's just a situation where we got not to be too schmaltzy or too overly emotional about it but like is there a situation where it's like we're just going to have to kind of put it all on the line to kind of curb some of this stuff you know because it's you know and you've got to wonder too
Starting point is 01:00:59 you know I was thinking about the ice raids as well while you were talking about that and that guy willing to defend his community. And, you know, I guess in a similar way, you know, where I'd mentioned, you know, whether it's, you know, climate disaster, whether it's like, you know, acts of mass violence, you know, whether you're in a church or a fucking mall or something. But, you know, just knowing that, like, you know, ice can just raid your community, your apartment building, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And that's like, it's one thing to, like, hold these values where your pro-immigration, your four people living lives of dignity regardless of wherever they were born but like when it comes to your neighborhood and your community like what do you do you know I'm not telling people are like pick up arms or anything like that but even just can even I think people are so normalized by this use of authority
Starting point is 01:01:51 and force that for like in your example you were using when you got arrested it's just like you just kind of submit like what can you really do like even if you try to explain the situation you know like are we gonna sit here and debate ice agents ice agents to do like are people readily oh shit i think mine give me a second man i think mine now you back now i can hear you okay i'm back now but yeah like what are we at what what at what at what point and i guess we're already seen that point will people actively sort of push back instead of just when they were like
Starting point is 01:02:21 i guess like what what talked what was it walk the talk or some shit like that you know what when they actually like kind of nut up but also too just like i don't know i mean i mean I just think, like, the fact that it is, I don't even know where I'm going to spend, but I just think, like, the fact that it is, like, this constant sort of, like, climate of fear, right? And this climate of, like, well, what can I really do about it? I just have to submit to authority and this normalization of it, you know what I mean? The same way that when a cop pulls you over, like, what else do you do, right? Try to plead your case, but ultimately, like, you were drawn into the system, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:56 I think, you know what I mean? I just think, I just wonder if people are ready to do that because that might mean, injury to themselves, right? I think what it is, I think there's a sense that what we've got to think about is, how can we make these people feel uncomfortable again? Right. Because something I noticed, like, and you're saying that just kind of
Starting point is 01:03:13 jog my memory where I was going with the arrest story is like, I was like, can I just roll my windows up? And he was like, oh, we'll take care of that for you. And I was like, I would just rather roll my windows up. You know what I mean? I don't trust you, motherfuckers. They didn't, they didn't give me the option.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He just had my keys because they took everything off your person, you know what I mean? And he was just like, I'll do that. And the dumb bastard left my window, my passenger side rolled down. And so, like, you know, there was stuff like there, whatever, anyway. And then, like, it's like, and I know he probably like, you know, I didn't have anything, but I know he probably like rummaged through my shit or whatever. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:52 Because he didn't even like, like, there's just no pretense of, like, due process or like your rights or anything anymore. and that's kind of a that's a slow erosion that's happened that's hit a fever pitch with Trump and I think that's where I was going with my story, my meandering story about getting pinched, but
Starting point is 01:04:10 it is a and in the same way that like I feel like do you remember a couple years ago when like COVID had happened and the market had got so bad that like you just heard billionaires
Starting point is 01:04:27 bitching and pissing and moaning all the time about like people making $15 for entry level jobs when they should have been making seven seven and a quarter because people were like either sick or uh you know had died of COVID even you know and then like obviously you know there's like stuff like long COVID that's left people incapacitated and you know can't necessarily work anymore depending on what it is and and and how sick they are with it and everything but like it it like
Starting point is 01:05:00 yeah it's it's it's I feel like this is like almost like a like an extreme violence cruel version of like a capital strike you know like it's like this is like them them paying us back for basically having like
Starting point is 01:05:18 favorable market like favorable like work conditions for half a sec not favorable work conditions favorable job prospects right right right right right and what they're trying to do now is like beat that back out of us because too many people were uh you know where you know when nobody wants to work anymore right wasn't happening now
Starting point is 01:05:42 they have to like dangle the AI carrot in front of us and threaten us that way it's all it's this constant jockeying to like keep the masses in check and and all that kind of stuff you know what I mean and in a position and i just want to say in a state of just sort of like i guess unpredictability or in a state of confusion right yeah yeah yeah yeah in a state of confusion yeah yeah for sure and i yeah i've been thinking about that like how but you know when i hear somebody like bill actman like i want to like literally like choke this guy out when i hear him like say anything it's like dude you're a you're a fucking loser that like as like trying to live this little fantasy of being a pro tennis player
Starting point is 01:06:25 like nearing 60 and you fucking suck anyway for a guy that's 60 you know what I mean like a guy that's like a guy that's like you know hearing him even talk about somebody like Zora Mamdani you know what I mean where he's just like if Mom Donnie's allowed to do this
Starting point is 01:06:41 like how are you going to let somebody like Mom Donnie who has never had this experience and this experience and this experience I was like motherfucker they let you play in a pro tennis tournament you fucking suck and are ancient even by like normal people standards like What the fuck? Who the fuck are you to talk about, like, what somebody's qualified for and not?
Starting point is 01:07:01 You know what I mean? They're just so high on, like, they just live in a whole different world where they think they can impose their will. And the question becomes like, how do we fucking beat that out of them again? You know what I mean? Because if they're going to get pissy over, like, now I can go to work a service job and make $15 an hour, whereas I had to get like my tip stolen. them before and get paid bullshit money you know what i mean like i'm talking about like you know how things were kind of after 2020 during the nobody wants to work anymore era right like those briefly favorable employment prospects and now the big payback for that is like we're going to pull
Starting point is 01:07:41 naked children out of buildings and zip tie them we're uh going to start try to or at least threaten to starve people so we can uh you know give money to our little satellite in Argentina It's very, you know what it is dude It's very paternalistic Like it's almost as if like It's almost as if like
Starting point is 01:08:03 You know like we got out Like you said we got out of check You know? And they're putting us back in line You know what I mean? Like the whole And I wouldn't even say that like You know
Starting point is 01:08:12 That Trump's second term Is a backlash to like Wokism or I mean maybe yes Or Bidenism Whatever the fuck that is right I just literally think like most of it is just wanting to punish people, you know? Because I mean, what
Starting point is 01:08:27 the fuck did Biden really do for anybody, right? You know? What did Biden actually do for anybody? I mean, during COVID, I guess, right? But like, I don't know, man. It does just feel like this sort of strategy of confusion and punishment and just discouraging people, right?
Starting point is 01:08:43 And letting people know that this is as good as it gets, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. So, in any case, that's the state of play my man so um
Starting point is 01:08:57 well I just no no no I just want to maybe uh just kind of underscore one thing too that I mentioned um that I saw that Trump is a wanting to test nuclear weapons again you know um
Starting point is 01:09:10 because he's worried about China and Russia and if that just doesn't underscore like this sort of climate of just fear and just a bunch of like syphilis riddled I mean they might as well be but shitty old men with their fingers on the trigger that are trying to make everyone as terrified as possible all the fucking time you know because they're a bunch of scared old bitches that don't
Starting point is 01:09:33 have a future because they've had they've lived their future already exactly exactly and and and their parting gesture to the world is like how much chaos and confusion can i make for somebody instead of saying to themselves i would like to you know i it sounds generic and like you know Disney or whatever, but like, how can I leave this place better than I found it? You know what I mean? Their parting gesture to the world, a fucking psycho like Trump is, oh, I'm going to create. And you know death is on his mind. The motherfucker talks about death every day.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Yeah. Especially because his hands are blue and his goddamn legs look like, you know, or acting like garden sprinklers, you know what I mean? Like this motherfucker is not long for this world one way or the other. But like, it's like, I just can't understand the animal. that must come in the hatred and the bitterness and the whatever maybe it's just garden variety you know narcissistic personality disorder and not anything like right right not anything deeper than that but i mean i'm deeper than that but like just that kind of mentality that like oh i must make
Starting point is 01:10:39 everybody else's social climb as steep as possible and as precarious as possible in order to whatever you know in order to just like yeah yeah like keep the world tilted in favor of the upper classes right right and me and all my buddies but man just like just on top of that just like you know like just inching closer towards like there's that doomsday clock you know how close to we to you know a nuclear apocalypse man and just like that sort of act because i think russia has also said too that the united states pulls out of any treaties they will as well and i don't know it just makes me think about just if it's, like, I feel like Trump has maybe opportunized or taken advantage of a lot of things
Starting point is 01:11:25 that Democrats neglected or Democrats themselves fomented, but who is going to be the president that's going to, like, after this, go back to be like, okay, no, we need to, like, you know, have nuclear disarmament, you know? It's opening Pandora's box, man. You know, it's not a, doesn't bode well for the future, you know? Yeah, not totally. Totally. But, you know, we'll figure something out.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Yeah, we'll figure something out, bro. I already got my post-nuclear apocalypse plan and figured out, you know. What are you thinking? I think I'm going to, I think, I think maybe stay somewhere with high elevation, so maybe here. You already thinking heading to the mountains. Hey, the mountains are always there for you. I'm going to be a hellbilly with the apocalypse goes, brother.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I'll take it with. Yeah. Well, that's kind of my retirement plan anyways, just get fat as hell and live off, you know, pig fat, smoked beans. cornbread trying to give up the flesh actually it's probably a little more
Starting point is 01:12:26 veggies in it but anyway well thanks man thanks for tagging up with me today we run a skeleton crew it's always a little tricky but we
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Starting point is 01:13:57 no man it's just um tomorrow's Halloween so everyone have happy Halloween be safe yeah check your check your candy for razor blades and fentanyl I'm sure there's somebody's gonna be talking about fentanyl laced apples or something you know I mean I mean you Isn't there, isn't there a new, isn't there something else they've been warning about? AIDS, AIDS, needles. AIDS and candy. AIDS and candy. Open the fact of Twizzles and get AIDS.
Starting point is 01:14:28 China and Venezuela are giving us AIDS and fentanyl. We didn't even talk, I guess we'll talk about Monday, and we get Alex Avenia on with us about the failed CIA move in a Trinidad and Tobago and this increasing sort of escalation with Venice. Venezuela. It's like it's it's fucking terrible. It's like it's like none of us learned a goddamn lesson about the Iraq war. I mean I mean man I think I think one of you guys had said in one of our last episodes but it seems like because of like just this imperial exhaustion you know we just got to turn back into our own backyards you know like we've over extended ourselves but in order to for Trump for his whole anti-fascist or I guess anti-anti-fascist, right?
Starting point is 01:15:18 Sort of agenda, you know, and being anti-communist, anti-socialist, you know. You got to turn towards Venezuela, brother. Yeah, and my hunch is if they had cum quots instead of oil, my hunch is that we would be picking on somebody else. But in fact, we talked on the show the last week. To me, it just signals a strategic retreat away from China and conceding this century to China. So, you know, stay the fuck out, Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:15:45 don't fall for that bullshit um yeah we'll talk more about that next week i'm sorry i don't want to kick us back up but appreciate you being with me main appreciate all y'all for tuning in uh go to the patreon check out the halloween special and uh happy Halloween everybody happy Halloween y'all peace oh man so my audio stopped recording unfortunately my bad man Sorry.

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