Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 424: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Participle

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to do the show standing I wish you'd sit there Why don't you stand up I can't Well um Able as much What's it matter Did you break your ankle?
Starting point is 00:00:15 No, I'm just lazy I'm sorry as I We never do the show standing up So let's just do it standing up We've done a show standing up a few times On stage Well that's not quite the same thing This feels very
Starting point is 00:00:29 I feel like Commander Yeah Like a leader of men Yeah You look like you need Chalkboard Or like some sort of board
Starting point is 00:00:40 Right off I was thinking more Of a Napoleonic figure But So what would that What would you need? A scroll A horse
Starting point is 00:00:49 Um Were scrolls outdated By the time Napoleon rolled around Very much so When did scrolls check out when the book do the scroll in
Starting point is 00:00:59 there's around like a third or fourth century I think oh so it's been a while it's been a little bit yeah must be explained why I've never seen
Starting point is 00:01:07 a scroll in my lifetime alright I'll sit down thanks sorry what's this book it says I love you Tommy S
Starting point is 00:01:14 and on the side it says I love you Margaret oh that's the blue book Margaret S the AA blue book oh it is
Starting point is 00:01:21 yeah oh okay there's a lot of books on this table. This is my research table. I'll just give those listening at home a little flavor of what you're reading. Digging your grave with a knife
Starting point is 00:01:36 and fork by Mike Huckabee. The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey. Wait, so Mike Huckabee wrote a weight loss memory? Yeah, it's called Stop Digging Your Grave with a Knife and Fork. And he said that the
Starting point is 00:01:54 event that caused him to what about a spoon well that too i guess i'll let it take a little while longer no i think that that would be much more efficient than the knife and a fork you can't dig a grave of the knife or a fork you know that's true but a spoon
Starting point is 00:02:10 that's essentially a spade it's especially a spade or a shovel that's basically a spade is just a giant spoon let's call a spade a spade a spade if you i think that's a racist isn't saying yeah i think it's a racist Is it?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Mm-hmm. Oh, I didn't mean that. I thought it was, I don't know, I thought I had to do a shovels or something. Mm-hmm. They did. It has, back in the day they used to use shovels for spoons. Because people used to be bigger back then. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Giants, so forth. Yeah. My cook would be what spurred him to write that memoir was he was sitting down in the governor's seat with some important dignitaries, probably some of the Walton family. or something and it collapsed in on him he broke the chair which is that was the it's where this started that's where it started it started his weight lost journey he said no more he embarrassed himself in front of the walmart execs he ate well i've editorialized in there i don't know who it was in front of but he embarrassed himself by he was given an important speech or whatever he was
Starting point is 00:03:19 meeting with some important people he goes to sit down in his chair and it just crumbles in on him to laugh. Well, it's Mike Huck to be, so yes, I do mean to laugh. He's an ambassador to Israel, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like he's having a good time doing it, frankly. He's having a great time. He's over there playing rock. Mm-hmm. Rock and roll?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you meant, like, that's like a sport they play in Israel. That sounds like a sport they would make up in Israel. Like, we're ancient people. We've been playing rock for thousands of years. Yeah. They just kick a rock back in the horn. Just kicking a rock. It's like, this is our ancient indigenous sport with our heritage.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Everybody kicks rocks, man. I'll tell you. Everybody, every culture loves food and family. We love to play rock. I do love that when people were like, I'm from ex kind of family, and just food and family is important to us. And it's like, you know everybody does that.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I saw a tweet that was like, unpopular opinion. Christmas night is for your immediate family and hanging out in your PJs and one. watching movies. It's like, is this bait? Like,
Starting point is 00:04:27 because that's, it's pretty much what everyone does on Christmas. It's what everybody does. Yeah, that's not, it's not a controversial opinion.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, tucked right in between the total money makeover and stop digging your grade with a knife and fork is the making of the English working class by E.P. Thompson.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That's an interesting three piece you got there. Well, you got to keep it a little diverse. Appalachian health outcomes. Mm-hmm. That's my research table. This is all the research that's going to go into my book that I'll write in 30 years.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Okay. I'm probably going to have a stroke before it finishes. I try not to do that. If you have a stroke, that's bad for my bottom line, too, you know? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Take care of yourself. I'm trying. Look at my arms, dog.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I'm fucking, I get them fucking... And I just hit you with a little breakfast brie. You don't feed the beast. Mm-hmm. Yeah, dude, it's the day after Christmas. Um, do you think bog bodies are, uh, you know, bog bodies? The perfectly preserved bodies. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:40 In like the Scottish bog lands or whatever. Yeah. Peat bog or whatever. Pete bog. Do you think the... Pete Bogs. Pete Bogs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I knew a peat bogs. It's like, are the bog bodies, are their bones, like floppy and gelatinous too? Like, that's what I think of when I think of the bog bodies. Don't know much about bog men, frankly, despite being the kelp. Like, I know their skin is, like, perfectly, like, you know, preserved and it looks kind of, um, what's the word I'm looking for? Scrumptious almost? Like, you would eat a bug box? You would maybe eat one.
Starting point is 00:06:22 You would enjoy eating a bog body. That's not quite what I would want to do with a bog body, but... Okay, let's just stop you right there. You'd kill any part. It's not the first thing I'd have on my mind to do with the body. At what point does necrophilia, like, start and begin? Like, if you had sex with a skeleton from 2,000 years ago, is it really necrophilia, or are you just having sex with a?
Starting point is 00:06:50 skeleton. Like, I feel like for it to be considered necrophilia, it has to have died within the last, like, 50 years, maybe. Okay, let me ask you. Well, before I can answer that with any... You don't know what I'm saying? With my dignity intact. Like, what's the stages of decomposition?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Well, first you get bloated as fuck. So it gets worse before it gets better Yeah Better being like When do you reach your final skeleton form I think at the end Do your bones Do your bones eventually just go to dust too?
Starting point is 00:07:32 No Or do you hang out as a skeleton for a while You hang out of the skeleton for a long time Yeah because they found like Tootin Commons Bones and that guy died like 4,000 years ago He was kind of in a soup though Wasn't they Oh I think he was you're right
Starting point is 00:07:44 I think he was in a soup Like he's souped He had been soup His shit got souped You're right That's good, that's a good point. If you have sex with the soup, if you have sex with the Tudin'common soup.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Well, I went with the soup to get us away from necrophilia. If you have sex with the Tudancomin soup, does that, is that necrophilia? You see what I'm saying here? Like, we, things need to be properly defined. That's true. Okay. That's true.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So you're saying there's a world in which, like, it's dicking you dick in the soup, not a cancelable. Not a cancelable. Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. Because I'm saying like a skeleton in a certain point is just an inanimate object. It's a collection of items.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I see what you're saying. It's like having sex with a skeleton is not meaningfully different than like having sex with like some chicken wire. Exactly. It's just air and objects. It's just air and objects. It might hurt. But it's not cancelable by any way. You mean, I think what you're going for is you've got to get your shit a little dirty before it's like...
Starting point is 00:09:01 Before it's cancelable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like if it's, um, to answer your question, the stage is at decomposition, I think like there's a period where you look kind of waxy and weird and then you... Because like, I'm just thinking about, like, you ever seen those like deer's on the side of the road? Like, you probably didn't have this in eastern Kentucky, but in southeastern New Mexico, where the daily temperature got up to, like, 110 sometimes, what would happen was a deer would be on the side of the road,
Starting point is 00:09:30 like, bloated, and it would get so hot from the 110 degree sun, it would explode. Oh, yeah, I hate that. I hate an exploding deer thing. It's like an IED. It's crazy. It's nature's IED. Dude.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Essentially. What if you were walking up on a bloated deer carcass or a carcass that's, Getting ready to explode. And then it went off on you like an IED. IED. Okay. Yeah. I started to say IUD, but that's a different thing.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That's a different thing. It's the opposite of an explosion. That keeps an explosion at bay. It keeps an explosion at tempers an explosion. Uh-huh. So, yeah, has anybody ever died from an exploding deer carcass? I bet because maybe like an antler was violently. Like what if you're walking by and one, an antler just,
Starting point is 00:10:20 That would be imperceptibly bad luck I kept a fellow a couple weeks ago that had the rabies He was trying to get his pet cat To quit fucking with a skunk He contracted rabies in that process And then donated a kidney
Starting point is 00:10:35 Like 48 hours later And transferring rabies to the kidney Recipio You brought this up several times In the last few weeks Also something else You were over here two days ago And is in the middle of a conversation
Starting point is 00:10:48 About an hour and a half in you just started bringing up AIDS statistics. Yeah. I've been thinking about a lot of... Why are you bringing AIDS? I've been thinking about a lot of things. I just... To be honest, I just tuned out.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I wasn't hearing any of your statistics. You're going to turn a blind eye to it. You were like one in 72... Listen, buddy. Listen, just because we have prep now doesn't mean you're out of the woods. I just... The thing is...
Starting point is 00:11:16 That's everybody's resting on their laurels. I think it's... It's, the thing is, it's statistics. When you bring up numbers, I do my eyes glaze over. Well, we need to find a new way to relate statistical probability to people that doesn't involve the numbers. You know what I'm saying? Okay, what you mean like? I mean, something that doesn't involve, like, like.
Starting point is 00:11:41 You're just going off field, kind of like your necrophilia chart? Yes, like when, we, so for example, two days ago, you were over here and you were like, there's a one and 72 chance that. that if you have sex with unprotected person. That's if you're a receptive bottom. If you're a receptive bottom, 1 in 172 chance you're going to get it. But when you said 1 in 72... That's assuming one partner is HIV positive, obviously.
Starting point is 00:12:03 You can't make it out of thin air. Well, I would... Tell that to the CIA, though. I would assume, what are the stats on if neither partner has HIV? What are the stats that one of them gets HIV? By having sex. Probably one...
Starting point is 00:12:18 This is like... This is like when I asked my sex ed teacher if you could give yourself an STD when I was in seventh grade. Yeah, like, I want to know the statistical answer. That, the statistical probability is virtually zero. What? Yeah. Can't make it out thin air, man.
Starting point is 00:12:40 But it's probably. That's what I thought when I was getting. I was like, oh, well, like, how does it even come about? Is it just like rubbing two sticks together? To make fire. It's like if you do that, does it create AIDS? I thought that for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Which probably underscores the need for robust sexual education in the hinterlands. But we didn't have that. We had First Baptist Church Choir director telling us not to be stroking our ship with each other. Can you get AIDS from docking? What's that? You know, putting your penis in the uncircumcised penis of another person? Is that what docking is? And then rubbing really fast?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yeah. Hmm. I wouldn't even know what to... See, there's a lot of activities. Yeah. That haven't been studied enough to have a probability attached to them. So what's... Okay, so back to my original query or my original question.
Starting point is 00:13:37 What was the soup thing? The soup thing. I want to get us away from that. What's the statistical probability you get AIDS from having sex with the tutin common soup? but listen that's worthy of that's worthy of funneling some grant money into we don't know if they didn't
Starting point is 00:13:56 they could have had some egypto aids or something back in Egypto AIDS Santa got AIDS Yeah Santa got AIDS Is that how he met his end And you know Santa's Turkish
Starting point is 00:14:11 Do you know that? Really? Yeah Well yesterday we watched the year without a Santa Claus that's the famous movie with the heat miser and snowmiser oh that's what that's called that's frosted snowman yeah it's no it's the heat
Starting point is 00:14:28 is that where they go to the rural south they go to the south yeah they go to south town USA and there's no black people there it's a racist ass fucking movie really and at the end of the movie they make the world's POC like global south kids like Chinese kids African kids make a bunch of presents for Santa
Starting point is 00:14:47 it's fucked up really it's a fucked up movie it's because Santa got AIDS and they felt bad for him and that's why there was he didn't have Christmas a year the year without a Santa was the year Santa got AIDS and he had a stay in bed that was before we had prep
Starting point is 00:15:03 it was before we had prep so we need a statistical we need a new statistical model for like we need something that doesn't make people's eyes glazed over what is something that's like resident with people that will make them like come to a it'll arrest their attention that like when you say one in 72 or there's a one in a seven billion chance that you'll get AIDS from having sex with a person without AIDS and you don't have AIDS either we need a way we can put that one to bed that one we can put the bad okay so here's the problem what you're muddy in the waters right now I'm just saying we need a way to make it a little more narratively resonantly resonant and
Starting point is 00:15:47 with people, okay? Yeah, I tell you the problem with looking at the statistical probability is it probably lures you into a false sense of security. That's what I'm saying. You tell me one in 72. No, that's like the low win. That's like the riskiest end of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:16:04 When in 72, it sounds like not that likely. 72 people? That's almost a 2% chance per activity. Which sounds like not a lot. But then when you compare it to other lower risk activities, like receptive philatia which is a virtual virtual zero possible but not impossible but very improbable
Starting point is 00:16:24 are you saying we need those kind of terms not we don't need to put numbers to it maybe there's a way to do it where we still keep the numbers but we sneak them in so one of my pet interests is pouring over the literature of various malignancies oh yeah yeah AIDS was just the thing I was on the other day I was like yeah let's check in with AIDS AIDS I hadn't done that I hadn't done that since I saw Magic Johnson's announcement and gave myself health anxiety for the rest of my life. Well, I was wondering, like, because the thing is, the problem with science is it's kind of gotten away from people. Like, I saw a thing today about how it was the warmest winter, the warmest Christmas in Icelandic history. Do you see that?
Starting point is 00:17:15 that's like and it had some number it was like oh it's 22 degrees Celsius in Iceland today that's the warmest it's ever been and so immediately my eyes glaze over right I see 22 degrees Celsius and you show me some charts like look there's there it is absolute insanity in Iceland it's warmer than summer 19.7 degrees centigrade in the middle of the night nearly 10 centigrade above july average and then there's all these numbers And I don't know, like, I know that this is dire. I know this is catastrophic and we're all going to die. But yet it doesn't register is that. But yet it doesn't register. The urgency doesn't register with you. I've been thinking about that the last couple of days. And here's what I've been thinking about that.
Starting point is 00:18:03 So when you try a weightlifting regimen, let's say. Mm-hmm. Okay. Like showing up is probably the most important thing, just being consistent. You know what I mean? Yeah. Probably better than anything else. Not showing up.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It's better than not showing up. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like fucking the soup versus not fucking the soup. If you don't fuck the soup, you don't have to worry about Egypt dates. Exactly. You know what I? If you do. If you do, then it gives you another thing.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It's kind of the reverse of that. But by what I'm saying, you're at least not canceled, though. If you fuck the soup, you're at least not canceled. I mean, who's going to cancel you? Listen, we're going to have to form a committee on this stuff. But no one's, you know, no one is harmed by that. Who is harmed by fucking Tudin Common Soup? See, you don't have an answer, because there's no one.
Starting point is 00:18:54 No one. Do you think the proud people, the Nile Crescent, might find that? But they're all so far back in history, you know what I mean? Like, it's not their, it's not their culture of heritage anymore. It's all of ours now. Okay, so what I'm hearing from your matrix is, the older the corpse, the less the less cancelable
Starting point is 00:19:16 the less cancelable the wet or the corpse the more cancelable but those are not like the bloated the more bloated the corpse and the hotter the day
Starting point is 00:19:26 the more dangerous the more dangerous cancelable and dangerous these are all these are all important metrics to have in mind if you're thinking
Starting point is 00:19:36 about fucking a corpse is all I'm saying which let's just just don't think you can also just not think about that stuff Well, the reason I thought of...
Starting point is 00:19:45 Well, I don't king, for one. Well, I wouldn't do it. I don't want to cast Spurson and those the day. I was just thinking about bog bodies because I was wondering, like, what is the consistency of a bog body? Once again, bringing it back to where this started, is the bog body bone gelatinous and floppy?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Like, if I got a bog body and I sheathed off the skin, Which is going to be moist and plump. I got to tell you, and I just don't like where you go sometimes with that stuff. And I got the bone out. Would it be a floppy bone? Because I guess what interests me about the bog body is the concept of a floppy bone, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:29 Are they known to have floppy bones? Or is this just something you've cooked up? I don't know. This is a question I have. Because if you soak something for long enough, like you're cooking, right? Sometimes that makes it soft. Like, let's see, like a potato.
Starting point is 00:20:44 So I get it. So if you bury a corpse, then it's just going to be dry bones. Dry bones. It's just bones there. Dry bones, right. Exactly. So, but if it's a bog body, it's been marinating.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's going to be more on the jello side of thing. Yes, and it's soaking up a millennia of moisture. So is the bone going to be floppy? The reason I want to ask is because I kind of want to see a floppy bone. Like a big femur? A big floppy femur. But like, like, B&D, like when you do a sploppy bone. Boone like him.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yes, exactly. I want to know if the femur is floppy. Is it a floppy femur? Yeah, I know. I hear you. Much to think about. In the meantime, let's not think about, you know. Okay, fair.
Starting point is 00:21:33 All right, fair. I went there. I shouldn't have brought up the sex aspect because all I really wanted to know is if the femur's I just don't want you to talk about sex on this program. Yeah, okay. All right, I can do that. Like I said, this started out innocently enough. It all started out with the question of, do the femurs get floppy?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Have you looked that up? I don't want to know. I don't want to know the answer. You want to live with the mystery? All right, I could answer. I could look at them. That's one way to do. Do bog body bones get floppy and gelatinous?
Starting point is 00:22:24 Which would be an irony because jello is made from bones. Maybe that's where this started for me. Yes, the bones of bog bodies can become floppy, soft, and gelatinous. Wow. This happens because of the unique chemistry of the peat bogs leaches the calcium right out of the skeleton living behind it so you don't have to give it there's no fucking unique chemistry it's just wet it's just that's what you're talking about like with AIDS we shouldn't get down a brass tacks it's brass tacks we don't need numbers we don't need probabilities we just need
Starting point is 00:22:56 brass tacks the wine house exactly yeah this is exactly right bog bodies don't leach cousy and they just soggy they're just soggy yeah they're just soggy anything is going to be soggy if it stays in water for thousands of years. Exactly, dude. Oh, God. I don't need the, yeah, I don't need the break now. Exactly. Yeah, we need a practical approach to science. Practical approach to science, my friend. People get in their head, they're like, well, you know, it's leaching all these minerals and this and that term. You don't need to know all that. All right. You just need to know it's been in water for a long time. All right. Let's get an example. Bring up one of your statistics from the other day. What was the scientific, what's the possibility?
Starting point is 00:23:40 what's your you have a specific behavior in mind that no no no that's your a risk a risk thing too
Starting point is 00:23:50 that's your area of expertise I don't think about specific behaviors ever people just tell me about the behaviors I mean
Starting point is 00:24:02 like some of the stats you were reading me the other day like just throw one out there at me oh by the way we've got a YouTube channel now. People should go check that out.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Okay. YouTube.com slash at Trailbillies or some shit. I don't know. Just search it. If I can search
Starting point is 00:24:24 Trillies. It's on there. And we've got a Patreon. Let's see. And a substack. And we're on Hulu.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Receptive Filet Show, otherwise known as giving head. No condom unknown viral load. Estimates range from 0.00% to 0.04% or 1 in 2,500 chance.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Let me tell you something right now. Before you even got to the numbers. Before you even got to the numbers, let's map it out like we're on this little path. You said receptive fallatio, in other words head, and so my ears... No, that's what the map says. That wasn't
Starting point is 00:25:05 my words. Well, but regardless. Otherwise known as giving. head it said in scare quotes regardless as a listener I was like oh otherwise known as giving him I don't what those words are
Starting point is 00:25:19 and so I was interested and you were and then you said something something viral load and that's where my fucking attention span goes askance or a skew you don't know anything about that
Starting point is 00:25:34 no it's not that I do know or I would like to know about viral load it's just that when you say that word that combination of words, I think, what is the viral load? Does that have a numerical value attached to it?
Starting point is 00:25:46 It does. It does, actually. That's outside the scope of this conversation now. Let's keep it about the suit, if we could. Well,
Starting point is 00:25:56 my point being is that by the time you even got to the numbers, which were completely insane, I was already primed to be, like, I had already, my attention,
Starting point is 00:26:09 span had already diverted hard off course does that make sense so what you're saying is is if we're going to reach people like you yes okay then we need to not and i'm rep we need to not veer off course we need to not we need to not throw out things that could potentially get your attention span in a direction where you don't where you're not receptive to hearing the message i see so as a communicator what's the actual message we're trying to convey here Is it don't give head? No, no, no, no. Try to reduce your viral load.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Is it give protected? I should note, though, with the advent of PrEP, all these, you know, the undetectable viral loads, the gold standard, that takes you from one in 25, what was the... So wait, does PrEP? On the high end, this is on the eye, estimates range, but on the high end, one in 2,500 to zero.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So is a viral load just essentially, like, how much of the virus you're carrying at any time. Right. Perzasa. Okay. And so the likelihood of receptive feletio, what is the number again? The absolute high, the absolute highest end is 1 in 2,500,
Starting point is 00:27:28 but it's likely closer to 0.00. 1,500. That's a lot. All right, so let's put this in terms people can understand, okay? what are things people understand they understand head right I think for the most part do they understand like
Starting point is 00:27:48 they understand food and burgers all right twirling fingers sparkle fingers what else do they understand do they understand son
Starting point is 00:28:01 hard work that depends on who our audience This has to be a universal thing At least for Americans anyways And people living in the North Pole Because we all know that AIDS is rampant The North Pole
Starting point is 00:28:21 We gotta do so we gotta dress it So what does it? People understand Rangier They understand Snow Well no okay never mind that's not universal reindeer they understand big bearded men furniture furniture they understand
Starting point is 00:28:43 what is the most universal concept for an American I mean I hate to say cars cars yeah shit you're right it's right there car people okay all right then let's translate those statistics into cars without without also transferring the numerical content over well this is usually how this is done because the the the when people are trying to put these in real world terms that people
Starting point is 00:29:12 can understand oh so this has already been done disease risks people have already always they always revert to well your likelihood of dying in a car crash versus this oh well I'm saying we need to even cut out likelihood we don't we didn't get rid of that term we need to get rid of that term okay so let's just say like let me see per every time you get on the road what's your odds of getting to a fatal accident. Don't, here's what we need to do. AIDS is like a car accident. In what kind of car?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Maybe. I'm just trying to say. Damn! What? Okay. Wow. You're far, you're in, far more likely
Starting point is 00:30:03 to get into a fatal car crash at some point in your life than to... To get AIDS. Even if you are having sex with an HIV positive partner. Whoa. Now, I don't want that to be construed
Starting point is 00:30:16 as like a... I think what that... To Lowell anybody into a false sense of security here. I am. I think it should be construed into... You're like, we did too much damage in the 90s. That's correct the record.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That probably speaks more to just people being bad drivers And there's too many cars on the road Well see this is the thing is there's a lot of variables Like just like your disease risk is the presence of blood there Is there other activities In a car? No with AIDS Oh with AIDS
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yeah yeah With a car but you have other things like your speed The age of the driver The experience level of the driver Mental state Mental state I think they found that like People that have insomnia
Starting point is 00:31:01 or, like, way more likely to have car accidents. Yeah. What's on the radio? The reason I brought... If ska's on the radio, if a ska song comes on, you're probably more likely to get into a car accident. That's true.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You're going to be on the... You're going to be on some other shit. That messianic third wave is coming. If White Boy Reggae comes on... Snow and former comes on. You might as well... You might as well get your affairs in order. So, the reason...
Starting point is 00:31:31 Anyway, this is the reason I had that pulled up was I've been just looking at all the stuff about T-cells and COVID-19 and people calling it the airborne AIDS and stuff. And I was trying to figure out if that was hyperbole. That's why I wasn't just like, well, let's see. But then, you know, you get down a rabbit hole and you're like, well, it's interesting to know that. The raw numbers or the raw number. The raw numbers. Any thought has, every thought has an origin point. For example, my thought with necrophilia,
Starting point is 00:32:08 Tutankhammed soup started with floppy femurs. And your thought with AIDS? And because... Probabilities was... We have a sophomore show. We had to take it to... Right, I see what you're so. This is not...
Starting point is 00:32:22 It's what comes after sophomore. People say sophomore... All the time. Was it junior-ish? Junior-esque. Junior-esque. What does... sophomore at me
Starting point is 00:32:30 what is what is that something I've never understood I was I was a sophomore once and had no idea what that meant I think it means it's your second year doing something because the people say that all the time like it's their sophomore album yeah and it's like vampire weekend
Starting point is 00:32:46 it's like vampire weekend sophomore album oh so good nine inch nils sophomore they're like they're like count bassies sophomore account bases
Starting point is 00:33:01 Roland Kirk's orchestra sophomore album I had a friend one time that asked me the funniest question I think I've ever been asked is do you remember
Starting point is 00:33:17 when Barry Sanders was a frosh Frosh I guess being shorthand for freshmen and I just want to just to tell you why this question
Starting point is 00:33:30 lingers in my head is when Barry Sanders was a frosh at Oklahoma State University. I would have been two years old probably. I see. When Barry Sanders was a frosh
Starting point is 00:33:47 at OSU at Oklahoma State University where he played from 86 to 88. When he was a frosh, I would have been one year old. Yeah, dude. I don't remember anything about being one-year-old, much less Barry Sanders' freshman year at Oklahoma State.
Starting point is 00:34:06 It's called infant amnesia. Yeah. That's true. I've been reading about it. If I didn't suffer from that, I'd probably remember Barry Sanders. You would probably would have remembered it, right, if you didn't suffer from it. Yeah. And I said to him, no, and you didn't either.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You don't either. Where did Frosh come from? I don't know. That's a weird thing to say, though. Do you know, Freud is the one who came up with the... I guess the concept had been around for a while, but I guess he formalized the whole idea of infant amnesia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Like we don't have, we're not able to form memories. I guess you can form them. I guess you just can't recall them. That's why you can't remember anything up to like the age of three. Although my brother swears he can remember when he was a baby in the crib. Yeah. Just like, it just has like plain as day.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Can I remember that? That's what he says, yeah. He's listening to this right now. not live while we're recording it but while he's after I've edited it and put it out later he'll be listening I think that's a wild claim to what would you rate that claim how many Pinocios is that getting a pants on fire from you
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'm gonna give it four Pinocios I'll leave a little room for possibility OSU is OSU as stupid Chud MAGA rot brain as OU You have a serious beef with the Sooners, don't you? Yeah, I fucking hate the guy. That's in Texas. Yeah, I hate the goddamn soon.
Starting point is 00:35:39 This is crazy that some moron wrote a shitty, like, I love Jesus, the world is flat, and Jesus Christ is a savior, and I love him. And she got failed for it, and then they just fired the teacher for failing her. What the fuck is this, dude? What the fuck is? What are we doing? Yeah, no, I mean, no, it's... I love Jesus in the world is...
Starting point is 00:36:04 Well, here's the thing is, you know, you could wait until next week when we're out of the birth week to make an observation of the thing. Me? Yeah. Me personally. You personally. You're attacking me during this fraught moment.
Starting point is 00:36:18 During this fraud, doing our society's so fractured. And everybody's against each other. You're coming for me. You're coming for me? Wow, I see where you're... Allegiance in Tulay. I see where.
Starting point is 00:36:31 You didn't have any problem, you didn't have any problem, you know, feasting, you know, on the occasion of his birth yesterday. Well, I'm just saying if you write an essay about how cool he is. Was it, you think it was like a AI generated for the most part, been editorialized around the edges? We can find it. You want to read it? Please.
Starting point is 00:36:55 This is actually great. What was her name? her name with Samantha full-necky full-necky. Full-necky. Oh, you full-necky
Starting point is 00:37:08 essay. Oh, I was researching past participle. Because we watched Scrooge the other night. And, like, I was thinking about, like, what if instead of the ghost of Christmas past
Starting point is 00:37:22 is the ghost of Christmas past participle? It's a, English class lesson the ghost of future present tense E.P. Thompson talks
Starting point is 00:37:33 about that making of English work. Yeah, the ghost of future present tense dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You could teach kids about grammar with that. I see where you're going with the bog body stuff now.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yeah. You got to have a hook. You got to have a hook, brother. Yeah. See, I'm an educator. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I shot you down just because we were venturing into some uncomfortable territory. You were trying to censor me. Everybody,
Starting point is 00:37:58 look, Tom's a little tight because we haven't recorded in person in over two months and my two-month-old child is sleeping in the next room and he objects on a philosophical level probably correctly
Starting point is 00:38:12 that I shouldn't be talking about fucking King Tut's suit let's see what is future present tense I think that goes hard probably I love Jesus. As you get older,
Starting point is 00:38:29 do you notice some uncomfortable things about yourself that you have to look at? I'm kind of a tight ass. I just never wanted to admit him. You're a tight ass?
Starting point is 00:38:39 A little bit. I'm a little bit of a tight ass. Hey dude, it's okay. You're not a tight ass. You don't get a podcast if you. Yeah, it's true. I guess you can't be too much
Starting point is 00:38:49 of a tight ass. We'll have plus, future present tenses will have plus past participle. At specific point, in future this activity will have been completed so John will have gone by then I will have eaten before 9 o'clock that's future present tense nobody talks like that so
Starting point is 00:39:09 like the ghost of future present tense would show up to scroo scrunch scroon scrooge and this is my version of scrooge scrooge scrooge scrooge yeah it's scrunch what why did they tell that story why is that story about a rich man being a Christmas crank like why can't poor people be Christmas cranks like why is it not okay
Starting point is 00:39:37 for me to be a crank about Christmas it's only you can only tell a story about a rich person be a crank about Christmas yeah that is that's something not talked about you know yeah there were probably some people in Bedford Falls sympathetic to Potter's view on the holiday
Starting point is 00:39:52 exactly yeah we're censoring them we're censoring them Well, this is a classic blunder The lift does actually make that Which is what? Just assuming poor people are a minor lift That all won't liberate From the clutches of
Starting point is 00:40:07 Whatever Damn Tom is bringing the heat About the working class, bro Well, I just, you know Again, E.P. Thompson talks about that in here. So maybe like the premises Like Scrooge is working on a essay for
Starting point is 00:40:27 OU and he really hates was he incensed by the trans teacher failing the or would he be on the other side of it? Well maybe let's read the essay
Starting point is 00:40:41 to find out first let's see where he would fall on this the original text of the Samantha Full Necky paper he was full neckie can you imagine writing an essay like that
Starting point is 00:40:55 and it's just being immortal as a document of this time. TPUSA, oh, you. What? TPUSA's publishing in its entirety. Yeah, TPUSA is the one who've been leading this whole thing was a fucking media event, don't.
Starting point is 00:41:10 They literally got her to write this so they could use it because they've been filling themselves, bro, ever since Charlie took one to the neck. But also because they're fucked because Erica Kirk is just not a very good spokesperson for the... Not very good.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Samantha's essay Is this going to be like You know what it makes You know it reminds me of I'm just going to say this And I don't mean this is any disrespect To anybody who's lost anybody And as from gun violence, okay
Starting point is 00:41:43 But you do kind of see How that Columbine Book memoir about the girl That refused to deny Jesus Christ Uh huh Probably bullshit Well 100% It was bullshit.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Also, how is that verifiable? I like how you were like, probably, like you were a little afraid to say it. No, no, it is horseshit. I'm sorry. I call out the other liars in this space. The audience has got you. Colton Burpo. Colton Burpo.
Starting point is 00:42:13 A goddamn liar. I will never forgive the audience for jumping down your neck because now they've got you tightened up, man. No, they don't. Get loose. I'm going to get loose. Get loose. I'm going to get loose, bro. don't fucking listen to these jackals um colton burbo that well his thing was he claimed to have
Starting point is 00:42:35 died and gone to heaven so he had a near he had an indee he had a near death experience okay okay yeah so he thinks that happened he thinks that happened but i think he's come around now and said that it didn't have i was talking to our friend joe the other day about his near death experience and he said that it was very pleasant he had a near he had an indifes D.E? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened to him? You remember the incident.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I do remember the incident. I didn't know he almost died, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was telling me about yesterday. He said that he said that it was just a room full of TVs, all playing the hits of his life. But not the bad stuff, just the good stuff. And he was just fading out until somebody smacked him and threw water on.
Starting point is 00:43:17 They, like, I think we should revive the old way of reviving somebody. Revive the old way of reviving somebody, but like squirting club soda in their face? Is that how they used to... Oh, yeah, like in the 30s, you know? Oh, that is on... Wake up now. Yeah, that's on...
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's a wonderful lie. Oh, do they spray the club soda in the guy's face? That is true. You love that movie. You fucking love that movie. You came over yesterday and you said... I was raving, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:43:44 you got seen this movie? You said, this is a fascist movie, and I love it. I said, it's got some retrograde politics, and frankly, we need to go back to... Tom's a fascist Everybody's like Tom's a fucking fascist He's a fucking fascist
Starting point is 00:44:01 He's a literal fucking fascist In November 25 Fulnicki was enrolled in a psychology class entitled Lifespan Development In which students were assigned To write a 650 word essay Responding to a research paper
Starting point is 00:44:18 The paper Relations Among Gender Typicality Peer Relations and Mental Health During Early adolescence is a study about the effect of gender norms on the mental health of middle schoolers. The course instructor gave Full Necki a failing grade of zero out of 25, saying she had failed to respond to the prompt or cite any empirical evidence and describe parts of the essay
Starting point is 00:44:40 as offensive. Full Necky's essay had referred to the Bible to call social acceptance of transgender people demonic. The instructor... I'd say I could use the Bible to refute that. that's because I'm smart she subsequently filed a claim of religious discrimination
Starting point is 00:45:02 based on her Christian faith which was amplified by T.P.USA. Oh boy. The supervising professor was asked to grade the paper again and also gave it a failing grade. So the T.A.'s professor also gave it a failing grade.
Starting point is 00:45:17 On November 30th, the course instructor was placed on administrative leave On December 22nd, the university announced the course instructor would no longer have instructional duties. So fucking stupid, but I mean, I think the point stands that she did fail to cite any empirical evidence. Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm judging this on the fact that she said that she scrolled in crayon. I love Jesus.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I love Jesus. And Jesus is so cool. And he's so awesome. Trans people that demons. Where the fuck does he say in the Bible that trans people are demons? It doesn't say that literally anywhere. Oh, that does not say that anywhere. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Hey, and it ain't because they didn't have that back then. All right. This is the... I'm trying to find the directions first. Let me find the directions first. Okay. So the instructor issued an essay to read, and I'm not going to read the essay because they don't even know. But the directions, there are other possibilities.
Starting point is 00:46:32 The best reaction papers illustrate that students have read the assigned materials and engaged in critical thinking about some aspect of the article. Has the formatting requirements? Does the paper show a clear tie-in to the assigned article? Does the paper present a thoughtful reaction or response to the article rather than a summary? Is the paper clearly written? must write 650 words Please remember your reaction paper Should not be a summary
Starting point is 00:46:56 But rather a thoughtful discussion Of some aspect of the article Possible approaches to reaction papers include a discussion of why you feel the topic Is important and worthy of study or not An application of the study or results To your own experiences So here's the essay. Let's read it
Starting point is 00:47:10 Okay Now the prompt is what now The prompt like the professor Assigned an essay for the students to read And so the students were instructed to read the essay and then write a paper, 650 words on if the paper presents a thoughtful, or I'm sorry, on if the, Jesus Christ, I'm sorry, it's a reaction paper to the essay. That's what it is. I'm sorry. I did a very poor job of setting this all up. I'm sorry. Did your eyes glaze over? No, I'm still thinking about the probability, disease transmission. Okay, here's her essay. This article was very thought-provoking and caused me to thoroughly evaluate the idea of gender and the role it plays in our society.
Starting point is 00:48:04 The article discussed peers using teasing as a way to enforce gender norms. I do not necessarily see this as a problem. God made male and female and made as differently from each other on purpose and for a purpose. You know what that purpose is. Made is different from each other on purpose and for a purpose. God is very intentional with what he makes, and I believe trying to change. Clearly not. Actually, the Bible says that he repented that he ever made man.
Starting point is 00:48:39 This is where they got the game fucked up. Let me tell her they got the game fucked up. They think everything God made was perfect. Even God didn't feel that way. Well, clearly, if you're someone this stupid, like you're kind of living proof that God didn't take that. Gender roles and tendencies should not be considered stereotypes. Women naturally want to do womanly things
Starting point is 00:49:02 because God created us with those womanly desires in our hearts. The same goes through... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, let me stop you there. The Bible says that, you know, if you've committed lust in your heart, then you've already... Something about adult, I don't know. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:49:22 She's saying God put lust in her heart. What she's saying is women naturally want to do womanly things. What she's saying is women naturally want to, like, cook and clean and raise the kids. And, like, they don't want to... They don't want to run for the house and stuff. They don't want to run for the house. God didn't put those things into their heart. That's what she's saying.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Womanly desires is not lust, is what she's saying. Oh, womanly desires her to... Be subordinate to your husband. to be a live a life of servant too we're actually what everybody strives for yeah we're doing a subtextual reading of something that like goes one centimeter deep but the same goes for men god created men in the image of his courage and strength and he created women in the image of his beauty okay well whoa okay you can you could read so you're so you're there's like a little there's a little bit of a gay argument that is it's like god's so pretty yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:50:18 Serving cunt. God was serving cunt. Oh, so it's fine when God serves cunt. God for being a white boy want to serve a little kind by. He intentionally created women differently than men, and we should live our lives with that in mind. It is frustrating to me when I read articles like this and discussion posts for my classmates of so many people trying to conform to the same mundane opinion so that they do, so they do not step on. people's toes i think that is a cowardly she's she's right that's what i've been doing yeah is you've called me out on what i've been cowardly oh you've been cowardly oh you've been
Starting point is 00:50:58 cowardly and worried about people's opinions and so forth yeah so i had some tough medicine from this that's right from full neckie from full neck it is important to use the freedom of speech we have been given in this country and i personally believe that eliminating gender in our society would be detrimental as it pulls us further from god's original plans for humans It is perfectly normal for kids to follow gender, quote, stereotypes because that is how God made us. The reason so many girls want to feel womanly and care for others in a motherly way is not because they feel pressure to fit into social norms. It is because God created and chose them to reflect his beauty and his compassion in that way. She keeps saying his beauty.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Like, she clearly thinks. She's ascribing. This is a fascinating. This is kind of a fascinating thing. It's like, she's ascribing, like, traditionally feminine traits to... Exactly. A God she views as masculine. As masculine.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Right, right, right. And it does introduce a interesting concept, which is that if he created us in his image, what does that say about the gender of God? What's God shit? What is God shit? Is he smoothed man like a kinlaw? Now you're loosening up, brother.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Now loosening up. That's loosening up, brother. That's loosening enough. Oh, man. Is his shit smooth? Down that. Oh, man. Because think about it.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You don't, he doesn't need the shit, though. But if we're making his image, then maybe he has that shit. I mean. But maybe it's not functional. They didn't really discuss this stuff back at, like, the council of Nicaia in 423. Nobody spoke them saying. What's God's shit look like? Is it smooth?
Starting point is 00:52:47 Uh-huh. by the way just to like stop here for a second the assignment was to provide evidence and empirical stuff to back your argument up so okay if you're I'm not sure what this has to do with the prompt like any of it well the prompt again we're missing part of the prompt because it was an assigned essay that they were supposed to read
Starting point is 00:53:13 without reading that essay ourselves we couldn't say very right I'm just not going to read that essay. I'm just not going to do the reading, frankly. But, like, we can probably assume, I mean, it said here that the essay was about the, why did I click off of that, Terrence? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Dude. You're so fucking stupid. I'm so fucking stupid. It was, um, the paper was called Relations Among Gender Typicality, Peer Relations and Mental Health during early adolescence. So it was about like, it was about the effect of gender norms
Starting point is 00:53:49 on the mental health of middle schoolers. So without reading the essay, we just can infer that it's just talking about things that are having to do. And she said this thing smacks of gender. It was smacks of gender. It was about like, it was about how gender norms can be, yeah, detrimental
Starting point is 00:54:07 to the mental health of early adolescence. Yeah, yeah. Because this makes sense. I mean, without reading the essay, so, Like, I can't fully sum up the author's views, and obviously I'm doing myself in my argument of the service here, but, like, think about it.
Starting point is 00:54:26 In adolescence, you're probably never going to have more gender dysmorphic, more body dysmorphia, for sure, at any point in your life than in adolescence, because your body is, like, going to, going to crazy changes. Yeah, you just looked at it says, my shit ever going to grow? Exactly. You're getting, you're starting to grow hair in weird places.
Starting point is 00:54:44 This is true for girls as much of this. as it is for boys it's like my shit started sprouting i was like i felt so accomplished though oh yeah dude i did i was like fuck yeah i never yeah i never really got armpit here i still don't to this day really i have like six and i was really self-conscious about it no you do they're just blonde just really blonde but there's still even then there's not a lot of them i was self-conscious about it bro yeah all my friends had like their shit was like fucking going crazy dude when you're here suit friends you're just that's i've env i've envied every Every swarthy friend I've ever had.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Same, brother. You know? Same. My shit, my shit smooth off. Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is that when you're undergoing changes like that, if you live in a society that rigidly enforces gender norms, that's going to cause you to probably do some self-loathing and, or at the very least,
Starting point is 00:55:43 some, like, self-abuse. flagellation. Yeah, because if you're being told by society all around you that you have to conform to these rigid norms or stereotypes or whatever configurations, then like when your body doesn't meet those, you're going to be mean to yourself. And that's probably what the point of that essay was.
Starting point is 00:56:08 If I had to guess, again, I don't know. Without reading it, I don't know, but... You find yourself Googling things like Greek ideal penis size. It tried to take a little solace in the idea that it just meant you were intellectually superior. Was it really true that a smaller penis meant that you were noble and actually really cool and aristocratic in ancient Greece? And honestly, which explains a lot of these Western chauvinists too, frankly. But brother, just leading into your insecurity, you know, be vulnerable. I think, anyways, back to her essay, if you're going to make the argument that those norms are actually
Starting point is 00:56:46 good and don't cause mental anguish for millions of kids at least provide some evidence beyond just Jesus says so and the Bible is cool. Yeah, that's not. No. I mean, I really want to give the audience like a, the scope of how stupid this is and how fucking insane it is that they fired
Starting point is 00:57:12 the professor for failing her. Yeah. Like she provided, again, If I'm a teacher and a kid makes that argument, fine. I don't agree with it, but if you can construct an argument with evidence, a compelling, like, argument of how you got from point A to point B, cite your sources, fine. I'm not going to fail you, but she did none of that.
Starting point is 00:57:32 She didn't meet any of the criteria of the fucking assignment. Yeah, that's true. And then, but they fired the professor. For her failing. Yes. In Genesis, God says that it is not good for man to be alone, so he helped, so he created a helper for man, which is a woman. So I guess she did cite Genesis.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Okay. There we go. Many people assume the word helper in this context to be condescending and offensive to women. However, the original word in Hebrew is Ezer Kinegdu, and that directly translates to helper equal to you. Additionally, God describes himself in the Bible using Ezer Kinegdu or helper. and he describes his Holy Spirit as our helper as well.
Starting point is 00:58:21 This shows the importance God places on the role of the helper, women's roles. God does not view women as less significant than men. He created us with such intentionally and care, and he made women in his image of being a helper and in his image of his beauty. Why does she keep saying that? If leaning into that... She's like, I serve a beautiful God. If leaning into that role means I am, quote,
Starting point is 00:58:49 following gender stereotypes, then I am happy to be following a stereotype. That aligns with the gifts and abilities God gave me as a woman. That aligns with the gifts and abilities of my God with his hourglass figure. I do not think men and women are pressured to be more masculine or feminine. I strongly disagree with me. That's just objectively.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Isn't that what she's saying? Isn't her article making the case? Anyways. I strongly disagree with the idea from the article that encouraging acceptance of diverse gender expressions could improve students' confidence. Society pushing the lie that there are multiple genders and everyone should be whatever they want to be as demonic
Starting point is 00:59:25 and severely harms American youth. I do not want kids to be teased or bullied in school, however, pushing the line that everyone has their own truth and everyone can do whatever they want and be whoever they want is not biblical whatsoever. Okay, but that's... Here's the thing about these people is you can't even engage with them.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Dude, they're so far afield. They're so far, they're so cooked. Like, well, and also, it kind of just gives the game away, like, they won a Christian Sharia law. They want law to be structured off of biblical, like, norms and whatever. You know what it is, though, dude. It's the latest. Just moved to Israel.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Just hope to. Yeah. You want to live in a fucked up society where they play this work called rock. Yeah. And they make myths about being ancient. Yeah. I mean, even though. We're hungary.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Sorry, I cut you while if you said the thing in. Dude, I feel like every generation gets some sort of just half-baked ideology just thrown on the pile. And then they just kind of sees where society goes with it. You know what I mean? And then, like, they usually just kind of fail. I mean, that's, I'm not picking on even right wingers. I say that the left's had plenty of ideas that, you know, didn't really pan out. but I just I don't I don't get where they're going with this like we've tried everything else I know we need to go back to the divine right of kings and the subjugation women that paid dividends yeah well at the same time being like we're moving society forward technologically we actually don't even have to use our brains anymore yeah like you're saying like just turn everything over to computers and AI like it's it's weird that those
Starting point is 01:01:13 these two, like a return to traditional value sits alongside like this great promise of technology automating our lives which is not going to pan out that way obviously but. Yeah, it is funny like it's a strange bedfellows I think. It makes sense
Starting point is 01:01:29 in the sense that I think capitalism has started who I don't know how to put this. The premise for that show Pluribus, I've not watched it but I saw people I've been watched it didn't it. I saw people saying that it's like anti-communist propaganda
Starting point is 01:01:45 because it revives an old anti-communist talking point that I'm sure you heard all the time growing up which is what I did as well which is that communism will destroy your identity and sense of self everybody will be the same
Starting point is 01:02:00 where I'll just be like automaton without any identities and it's like capitalism has now become that like that is the dystopia of capitalism that's what AI promises to essentially like obliterate yourself
Starting point is 01:02:15 and to turn us all into automaton. Which is already happening. Yeah. Like just, I mean, everybody talks about brain rotten and all these other things. But it's like, this would be like the worst time
Starting point is 01:02:26 to like really proliferate AI. It just seems like because I guess that's what they want. I guess they just want like a subservient automaton or whatever. Well, yeah, it erodes down your critical thinking skills, which makes it the population much more controllable and malleable. and you can make you more impulsive and I don't know I think it's like
Starting point is 01:02:47 I don't know man it's it's I think a big part of it is I said this before to some controversy but I feel in many ways like we're living in an inverse of the 60s it's like a counter counterculture and now it's like these people are like to remember people
Starting point is 01:03:04 threatening to dismember you over there that these people are like the Mario Saviose of the 60s. You know, Mario Savio, like, we must throw ourselves
Starting point is 01:03:16 on the gears of, he was like an SDS guy in the 60s, like one of those, like, hippie or maybe even yippy type people. Like, these people are the inverse of that now.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Like, they're the, like, brave truth teller standing of thwart history yelling, stop. Like, you know what I mean? And they're doing it at the university. Anyways,
Starting point is 01:03:38 it's a maybe a poor. Which is like, also it's just like, Like, what's the net result of this? Like, you probably just, you probably like coax this, like, young woman into taking this class under this trans professor just for this purpose of, like, targeting this person. Her mom is, like, an insane right winger. Okay. And so it's, like, obvious that her mom, I think her mom even ran for office or something in Oklahoma or, I don't know, but.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Probably not what you want to be doing when your last name is Full Necky. Yeah, that's not, that's not a great last night. What is that German? What the fuck is Full Necky? Where does that come from? Fulnecky, I don't know. Welsh? Sorry, did you just march my Welsh friends.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Are you Welsh? I'm not Welsh. What's your ethnic break now? Mostly Siberian. Okay. I'm the original people. The original bog man. I'm bog.
Starting point is 01:04:37 That's my lineage is bog. I wonder if the common Eastern Kentucky last name Boggs has anything to do with the bog. The Bible says that our lives are not our own, but that our lives and bodies belong to the Lord for his glory.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I live my life based on this truth and firmly believe that there would be less gender issues and insecurities in children if they were raised knowing that they do not belong to themselves, but they belong to the Lord. Overall reading articles such as this one encourage me to one day
Starting point is 01:05:11 raise my children knowing that they have a heavenly father who loves them and cherishes them deeply, and then having their identity firmly rooted in who he is will give them the satisfaction and acceptance that the world can never provide for them. My prayer for the world, and specifically for American society and youth, is that they would not believe the lies being spread from Satan that make them believe that they are better off as another gender than what God made them. I pray that they feel God's love and acceptance as who He originally created them to be. That's the essay. and and and and that's why i've chosen to get this person fired and effectively cut their throat
Starting point is 01:05:49 by cutting off their livelihood yeah yeah um that's pretty the whole thing about like kids people have no identity but they haven't it's fascinating right that like we need to put some guardrails on christian like the internet too like i don't think you should be able to get saved to you're 27 to your brain stops grow if you die before that's a tough luck you're going to hell you're right
Starting point is 01:06:20 you gotta make it to 27 and you're going to hell I agree it's dangerous to be saved at like 10 conversely I think you should be able to convert to Islam as early as possible at 12 weeks inside your mother's one
Starting point is 01:06:35 I was saved at 10 or 11 thereabouts But then I was baptized. I wasn't baptized until I was 15. Too young. Mm-hmm. You should.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I'm sorry. You know, when your parents show up later, dad won't tell him. I was like, you should wait. You let him wait 12 more year. What? Yeah. You should have. They helped me get saved.
Starting point is 01:06:55 You'd had a better Christian boy. Today if you wouldn't. It's true. I remember going to them and being like, I want to accept Jesus Christ. And then I literally, they showed me how to do it and they prayed with me. And I literally walked away thinking he was in there. Like he's in me.
Starting point is 01:07:10 now. I was like, he's in there, dog. I'm eating for two now. I'm in the 33rd trimester. I'm pregnant with the demigone. Yeah, I did. Well, I'm reading the history of Christianity the first 3,000 years.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And dude, Christian, I'm sorry to say it. I said this to you the other day, but Christians just suck, man. Well, see, but we could change all that. You're saying we could change it? if you can't get saved to your 27. I think that might change a lot.
Starting point is 01:07:45 You should be able to die in war and drink alcohol before you accept Christ. It is dangerous. It's pretty dangerous. I think that's what we're dealing with here. Now, I'm not for war. I just want to be clear about that. But if you choose to die in war, you should be able to do that before accepting a demigodon to your heart to live. what if he had to adjust to fit in your heart you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:08:15 he's too tall he's like he's like he can't eat like a normal size of burger so he's trying to find crystals or white castles yeah you can't get any crystals around here opening the dorm ain't nothing to eat in here yeah yeah I agree with you 27 sounds good dude 27's legal age for Christianity it is wild though That's kind of a haunting thing that she said about how there is no self, like, what is, I'm going to go back to it. Sorry. If, oh, here it is. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:55 The Bible says our lives are not our own, but that our lives and bodies belong to the Lord and his glory. I firmly believe there would be less gender issues and insecurities than children if they were raised knowing that they do not belong to themselves. but they belong to the Lord. That is kind of chilling. That is extremely creepy. It's also just not strictly speaking biblical. I mean, although there's plenty that you can make the argument. But something that always is overlooked is like if you're going to be Christians,
Starting point is 01:09:24 like a lot of these people are just like Old Testament people. Like Fire and Brimstone. They worship the Old Testament God. They say they're Christian, but they kind of sidestep a lot of the stuff Christ talks about. Even Christ posed the question to people and that blew their mind. They said, he said, are you not God? meaning like do you not have autonomy and whatever over yourself right he also says that god gave Adam the power to subdue the earth to do what he will with it so it's like
Starting point is 01:09:50 you're not really here to serve God you're actually here to serve your fellow man yeah I mean if you really would take a real new testament view of it and you honor God by serving your fellow man but this is not what these people want these people just want like they need like a father figure we've said this before but to put hopefully this kind of makes it more explicit these people worship the Old Testament God just like Israelis like there's a reason there's so much convergence
Starting point is 01:10:26 between Christian Zionists and Jewish Zionists because they worship there's not a whole lot of daylight between them they read from the same literal book the Old Testament is just the Tanak or the Torah it's like they read from the same book, they worship the same God. Yeah, yeah. Which is weird because,
Starting point is 01:10:44 I don't know, man. I don't know, it's, I'm not trying to make the case that Jesus was some, like, socialist, and that, like, he was a left ear, whatever. I hate that stuff. Yeah. He was a radical fucking communist, man. It's just, the point I'm trying to make is that
Starting point is 01:10:59 the reason the early Christians kept the Old Testament, well, they kept the Torah, but called it the Old Testament, was because well one huge reason was just because Christianity was at the start just a Jewish reform movement right the whole Jewish religion didn't even become a coherent thing until after Christ came
Starting point is 01:11:23 like I don't know if people know that like at the time Christ came there were four major Jewish sects like running around and then what'd you have then like the Asseans the Pharisees the Sadducees and the zealots. And then the Jewish the Christian movement, the Christ movement was just another Jewish
Starting point is 01:11:45 reform movement. There were actually several that branched off from the Christ's movement. Because James, Jesus' brother, ran his own in Jerusalem, but then Paul was running his in, like the Mediterranean. It was kind of like the first century version
Starting point is 01:12:00 of the Strip Mall megachurch. You know what I mean? Everybody had their own outfit. But they're like, So they kept the Old Testament partially because it was intended to be a Jewish reform movement and you couldn't make sense of the New Testament
Starting point is 01:12:14 without it. But a big reason why they kept it was because it had so many prophecies about the coming of a Jesus-like figure. So the New Testament is the only part of Christianity that's really novel, but it's the ones that they don't even read anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:31 They don't care about it anymore. When I think of Christians now, I don't think of the New Testament. They don't care about it. You had some of those movements that kind of petered out, like the Red Letter movement and people that, like, rightly, I think, diagnosed that, like, we have to separate ourselves from this, like, evangelical movement. This is Haram. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:52 The Christian version of Haram. You know. And, like, that took some weird dimensions. That was like, I'm not a Christian. I'm a follower of Christ. And it kind of turned into all these sort of pseudo-hipy, like, semi-progressive. Christian like you know I remember like the dude Shane Claiborne there were some other people who were not like bad people I don't I don't know I don't know much about them but like you know they had some like interesting ideas that were just you know not really rooted in any sort of material analysis it was more like Christians need to be about like what Christ was about and I agree with that you know as long as they're of legal age 27 enough but but there's not been
Starting point is 01:13:38 I mean I mean I know people I'm not going to say this as like I know there's like liberation theology and then there is a strong sort of progressive or like left wing sort of Christian tradition but it's not
Starting point is 01:13:52 the norm you know what I mean it's like what I would say the in how that like Christianity and like Christian Zionism and and Jewish Zionism converge is that like
Starting point is 01:14:06 evangelicalism is to Christianity what Zionist Judaism is to Judaism. You know what I mean? And it's not... But the thing that we have to acknowledge on both sides of that is that these are not niche positions in either faith. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Evangelical Christianity has a stranglehold on modern Christianity. You know what I mean? In America, anyways. In America. Now, broadly, yeah, I don't want to speak... Yeah, in different places in the world, that's not...
Starting point is 01:14:36 maybe not true but um yeah in the west for sure i think is is true and even even where it's not true like we'll say like catholics and stuff like that there's still some like uh sympathies you know yeah those are enough that it's doesn't really you know that's is interesting i think that like you could probably make the case that the catholic church for um in whatever like whoever's running it in whatever configuration it's in at any given moment is kind of still the church of the New Testament
Starting point is 01:15:13 I mean I hate to bring the first pope was Peter Peter was the first Pope yeah and because he was buried in Rome that's the only reason why it's pretty much yeah
Starting point is 01:15:28 the Catholic's kind of got a little that kind of got a little loose with there was like a time when there was like kind of a and things like, let's make a dog the Pope, that'd be fun. That's whimsical at least. Yeah. I guess you could say, and again, because there's all kinds of readings of the New Testament
Starting point is 01:15:46 that's either insane, you know, patriarchal, conservative, whatever, but also has like a liberation theology, whatever. Regardless, point being, however they interpret it, even fucking J.D. Vance was quoting and has been quoting the New Testament a lot with his whole thing about how, like... This guy.
Starting point is 01:16:05 is a guy that doesn't know a goddamn thing about scripture. Oh, no, no. It just doesn't. But I'm saying it's rare that you even come across Protestants. Yeah. Like, it's interesting, J.D. Vance quotes the New Testament. I don't fucking come along a whole lot of Protestants
Starting point is 01:16:21 these days that quotes the New Testament. They all quote the Old Testament. And I think the point I'm trying to make is that the Catholic Church, in keeping with its tradition, is kind of still the Church of the New Testament and however a way you read that, the Protestant Church is the Church of the Old Testament. at this point
Starting point is 01:16:37 I mean granted you've got different like breakoffs from that like different interpretations of it in America but like I don't know man it just seems to me like they're so insane like they mostly take their
Starting point is 01:16:51 teachings from they're blowing a huge lead yeah I mean now you've somehow through some miracle have gotten this message to be resonant with billions of people for a long time
Starting point is 01:17:05 And you're just, like, pissing it away by casting your lot with fucking Donald Trump, the most obvious charlatan that ever lived. It is crazy. It is. It's interesting. It's Boxing Day today. You notice how they released those Epstein files, like, right before Christmas? Like, that was obviously the point.
Starting point is 01:17:26 There was some dark, dark, dark. Dark. They obviously did it right before the holiday so that it would be out of the news immediately. Yeah. Just, like, isn't it interesting? thing, just like how Charlie Kirk got merch right after that news story came out in the Wall Street Journal
Starting point is 01:17:42 that had the letter from Donald Trump where he drew that young girl for Jeffrey Upstein. You know what I'm saying? It's so dark. And then the story about them like killing a baby and throwing it in Lake Michigan or whatever. Yeah, don't. Fucked up, bro.
Starting point is 01:17:59 What is Samantha? I want to hear Samantha Fulnicki's thoughts on that. Yeah. Right? an essay about that, darn? Yeah, give us something about that, you know? It's like, no, you got to be 27 for you can comment on the Epstein files. If you were, all right, let's say, like, you owned a newspaper and you were going to
Starting point is 01:18:23 publish an essay from a college student on gender norms. and the Bible and you were going to make all your workers work overtime on Christmas Eve to get the story out there, the 650-word essay out there. Everybody's got to work really hard to get it because everybody's stupid as fuck. Now's essays ain't going to write themselves. The essay's not going to write themselves. So you make all your workers stay overnight at Christmas Eve. Your assails.
Starting point is 01:18:58 And they work late. It will essayels. And you've got Tiny Tim and he's like, please sir i don't want to write i don't want to work all night on christmas eve publishing this drek please let me go home sir no you're gonna work you ain't got no home timmy you got no home timmy and jimmy page is running the man get back in there timmy
Starting point is 01:19:24 by the way isn't it interesting there's a lot of people we've found in the ebstein files woody allen Noam Chomsky Um Mick Jagger You know who's not in the FC files One Jimmy Page I got my indiscretions out of Italy
Starting point is 01:19:47 I'm be tired from the guy Like dude Like the great one of the all time You marry a 14 year old one time You're marked for life One of the all time great pedophiles like retired from the game like genuinely got out of the game
Starting point is 01:20:05 maybe not a moment too soon like a LeBron-esque the decision announcement I'm taking my talent I'm taking my talents back to London I only date Christian women 27 years of age old
Starting point is 01:20:25 I'm not doing it anymore I'm not going to risk my legacy man and the entire pedophile league is like this is jarring this is jarring this is jar
Starting point is 01:20:38 this is life fun yeah this is they're just doing man on the street interviews with pedophiles they're just like this is shook the whole community this shook the whole community yeah this changes everything
Starting point is 01:20:53 Jimmy was one of the Jimmy was an all the top first ballot Hall of Fame and then you just then you just cut to one guy he's in tears it's just like i just don't know what i just don't know what the lifestyle will be like from here on out i'm retiring to foggy luck what wilfordshire wilfordshire i've got an old creepy mansion it's gonna be straight wholesome
Starting point is 01:21:19 nothing's going on in my grouping mansion nothing weird at all you got to share an ID to get in you've got to be saved 27 or older Not in the Epstein Files No Jimmy Page Oh Jimmy Page
Starting point is 01:21:38 The Epstein Files Yeah but Mick Jagger Curveball Is it really though Yeah Yeah I'm surprised That's why I'm surprised Jimmy's not in
Starting point is 01:21:52 The Epstein Finals Yeah I'm telling you dog When he retired he really got out of the game he really got out of the game back to my scenario you're a publisher
Starting point is 01:22:08 you're a Hurst type a William Randall Hurst type figure he published newspapers right and you have to work overnight overtime on Christmas Eve you're making Tiny Tim's bitch ass
Starting point is 01:22:23 do the print lettering lining it up on the page doing the fact checking, which means you have to check the Bible to make sure full Nicky's essays, all that. And then, please, I want to go home with my family for Christmas, please. You've got no.
Starting point is 01:22:38 You've got, this is your family, yeah. And you're up in your office and you're drinking with something that a Christmas hating Scrooge would drink on Christmas Eve, like a fucking sparkling water.
Starting point is 01:22:57 No, what would they? like some sort of something that's not in the... What's like a Victorian Arab beverage? Like a malt or something. Laudanum. Laudanum. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I'm going to drink my laudanum. Don't bother me. And in an opium-induced hallucination, your former mentor shows up to you. And it's like, before this night's over, you'll be visited by three ghosts, bloke.
Starting point is 01:23:26 over or something I have a rhyme to it you know how them shits got rhymes to them and shit they love that they love that the windy snow will blow on the window and before the night's over
Starting point is 01:23:43 before the cock crows the cock crows you'll make three ghosts old more time that yeah yeah yeah and then so you're like
Starting point is 01:23:55 oh nice night I don't care about that at all. I don't believe in all that. It's just the opium talking. It's the laudanum. I got to stop getting this from the Chinese. But then the next day you wake up, and sure enough, the ghost of Christmas past...
Starting point is 01:24:18 Partisive. Partisan. That shows up to you. And he's like, and he makes you. you look at your entire career and all the times in the past, you've missed the past participle. I say, listen, if you're going to run a slave, if you're going to do an essay factory, ran my slave labor.
Starting point is 01:24:41 At least get your participles, row. Okay, the past participle is the form of a verb, typically ending in E.D. in English, which is used in forming perfect and passive tenses and sometimes as an adjective. For example, looked and we're fucked we're fucked
Starting point is 01:25:00 I've lost it that's not a good example what is it past part Joseph threw the burned toast in the bin the man was clearly
Starting point is 01:25:16 agitated the rose swept up the shattered face so it's like a verb right I want to keep it I'm going to keep it all the way of bill with you right now. I'm done with English.
Starting point is 01:25:31 I don't know what are you... I've learned everything that I have stored here. I've moved on. I'm taking my talents to... I don't know. Foggy wharf it up my as Spaniol. Come to my mansion, man. Come to my mansion, man.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Nothing been going on here. Nothing been going on here. Very wholesome activities. The past part is simple is a verb. so yeah the man was clearly agitated rose swept up the shattered base the burned toes so it's a verb that kind of describes a noun
Starting point is 01:26:04 in agitive form with an ed on the end so if the ghost of past participle appeared to or scrooge what would what would he say what would he say
Starting point is 01:26:18 he'd be like um your um burned dick you've ruined the constitution of your assail's the constitution of your essay of what
Starting point is 01:26:36 your assail's of your s a ls where you no no you're look at consider consider your slave tiny tim it would be this the your elves are the constitution of your elves are ruined that would be the that's right that's part of paris that's right that were ruined we're ruined we're are ruined we're our I don't know how it works
Starting point is 01:26:56 I just I just speak it and don't do anything weird anymore and he takes the guy he takes Scrooge to like a past like he shows him through the you know because like in Scrooge
Starting point is 01:27:11 he takes him to the window and he lets him look in on previous mistakes he's made yeah you know what I mean like the time his dick couldn't get harder this girlfriend that's a pratfall
Starting point is 01:27:24 or is that a pitfall I think it's a pitfall It's a moral failing Okay The moral failing When you can't get it up Is that a pitfall? Yeah
Starting point is 01:27:34 I thought a pitfall Just kind of It's pitfall Okay What is that He just takes him To all the most embarrassing times of his life
Starting point is 01:27:44 Like none of the stuff Where he would have Like deep profound existential regret or despair Now he's like Look how stupid you look And he peed his pants in Cairner Guardian.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Yeah. They gave you the little cot to take a nap and you pissed your britches. You pissed your knickers. Yeah, he pissed his knickers, but the teacher wanted him to put it in past participle for him. It's like,
Starting point is 01:28:06 I have pissed knickers. That would be a past partisable. I'm wearing pissed knickers. That's, yeah. That's, that's a, like an English hardcore band or something. Peace knickers.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Yeah. I'm starting a new back. In my free time Let's go Peace Nickas His Ladd Zepplin Outfits going nowhere Future present
Starting point is 01:28:35 Okay the ghost of future Man I'm too tired to riff this out At multiple points I've just wanted to bail And hit the stop recording But I'm too tired to riff, dog What's the ghost of Future
Starting point is 01:28:51 Future present tense Future present tense Future present tense. Revers to using the present simple or present continuous verb forms to talk about future events. For example, I will be avoiding. I will be working.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I will be, you will be reading. I will be avoiding seed oils going forward per the recommendation of health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. That paragon of wellness. Uh-huh. So, like, maybe, like, he published an essay in the past that made the case
Starting point is 01:29:23 that what is something that like Christians like to make the case for that like um intelligent design intelligent design okay he published a 650 word essay from an OU student about intelligent design when he first started his career and he famously
Starting point is 01:29:42 he used no past participle in it but he could have and that would have made the essay better I haven't made a much better essay um but now he's going to the future present tense so an essay that he would be publishing in the future if he doesn't change his ways it shows what how it could end up for it shows how it could end up for him yeah so it's like i will be dying you know that would be the future present tense but like um because usually that's what the future goes to future christmas shows screwed his coffin
Starting point is 01:30:22 his funeral you know that was always the creepiest part to me of the Christmas story yeah of Scrooge yeah
Starting point is 01:30:28 that when the grim reaper shows up yeah that's what the future present tense the ghost of Christmas future is just death death yeah
Starting point is 01:30:37 yeah that's a new one on me so ghost of future present tense would show up but he wouldn't be death in this case he would be
Starting point is 01:30:45 um um um um 90s Grammy Award winning singer Dave Matthew
Starting point is 01:30:54 It's Dave Matthews With a sheet over his head To the whole Foket The hands are marching Get it right You ignorant Get it
Starting point is 01:31:06 That was a little shabby foot Oh What kind of essay Were you been writing Um What kind of essay would he be publishing in the future if he doesn't change his ways? Because the future, the present tense, the ghost of the present tense, is the full-necky essay, right? Yeah, yeah. But the future
Starting point is 01:31:28 present tense is going to be an essay he would be publishing in the future. Yeah, about God's smooth mound. Okay. If he doesn't change his ways. Doesn't change his ways. You're going to incur the wrath of an angry, smooth God. Okay. Um, um, That makes sense, but you have to tell you, Dave Matthews, you'll be incurring the wrath of a smooth, angry God, titties. Tiddish. According to Fulnacky. Has tithes. Has beautiful titty.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Has beautiful titty. Why would you say? All right. Well, it was a good, it was a good concept. We'll Poor execution We'll smooth the edges out before next Chris
Starting point is 01:32:24 This would reintroduce this one It had a good concept It's bad Execution I don't know man I don't speak You had to just speak it I don't live it
Starting point is 01:32:39 I don't do much riding Any more since every time I don't do my ride All right I'm sure there's all kinds of other stuff we talk about But let's go It's boxing day It's boxing day
Starting point is 01:32:56 We've got to go Celebrate that Speaking of what is the origins of boxing I look us up every year And as soon as I look it up I just as quickly forget The I think they just put away their boxes
Starting point is 01:33:11 Wow That the presents came in It's pretty simple pretty straight yeah don't look too deep into it dude don't think boxing day man I just found an article we can read on the Patreon
Starting point is 01:33:23 this is in the Atlantic what if our ancestors didn't feel anything like we do those historians who want us to know how our ancestors experience love anger fear and sorrow okay let's read that on the Patreon
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Starting point is 01:34:17 You secretly hated it this whole time I'm gonna be real with you I haven't listened I don't really listen to podcast You've been preoccupied I don't really listen to podcast Dude Especially not my own
Starting point is 01:34:31 Yeah So You know what I mean Yeah you're above it I'm above it I'm above it I'm above it All right
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Starting point is 01:35:00 holidays there will be one more episode of the year two more I think one 30th no just one more the 29th and then we're in 2026 my friend Damn. Okay, one more of the year. Any big New Year's plans? No, I'm just...
Starting point is 01:35:19 Shooting people? Just... Just... Murdering everybody. No, I didn't say I was going to murder anybody. That's what you intimated to me. No, I will not be committing a violent crime. You will have been intimating to me.
Starting point is 01:35:36 That's a past, present, part of some point I think. That's a lot of... You will have been intimating to me that you will have... killed a lot of people I don't know I'm kidding I'm kidding it
Starting point is 01:35:46 jeez of grass yep I will not have been nor ever will kill anybody let me set the records right there I don't know
Starting point is 01:35:56 the future not in the future past or the present tense told me that you will have been intimating that you will have
Starting point is 01:36:03 killed many people so I don't know and that this is evidence exculpatory evidence that can be used how can it be it's in the past
Starting point is 01:36:12 no You can't put evidence before. But it's future present tense. Oh, you think this demonstrates premeditation. Yes, even though I'm literally saying I will not ever commit. No, it's in future present tense, which means that once the future gets here, it will then activate the exculpatoriness of the evidence. Some clauses kick in. The clauses kick in.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Then you're going to jail forever. You're going to jail forever. Get ready. dude you have two choices you to go to jail forever or go live with jimmy pay that's right that's right brother all right i could use the company i use the company man my house has ten bathrooms too many bathrooms for one man trust me there's no other people here no other people okay thanks for listening we'll see you next time peace

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