Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 433: When People Fear the Government, there is Tiranë

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm just kidding. We're not... Let's go back to off the record. Did you boys see that BAFTA thing? Tom, what are your thoughts on it? We're not recording. I want to put this on the record. Oh man. You were playing on the record?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Listen, we got a black guy to Tourette's suffer here. We literally got the best panel for comment on. If I fuck up saying something about Tourette's, which I'll be very careful about, then I can be corrected. And also, like, I mean, yeah, we'll talk about it. about it. It's just, it's weird. It's, it's, it's, I don't want to send anybody with it. Tom's been pressing me to include this on the list of things to talk about for like two episodes now. And I've just been like ignoring it like, okay, maybe it'll just go away.
Starting point is 00:01:17 No, I don't know. It won't go away to it comment on it. I saw it on the guardian. I was going to send to you guys. I was like, I don't even know how to make, should I make fun of the? I don't know, like, I have many questions. So maybe, maybe our audience could answer them. I couldn't bring myself to unmute the video. I've still not unmuted the video. I just can't. It's wildly uncomfortable. I will tell you that.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I didn't watch it yet because I want my imagination to sort of run wild before I eventually do wild. I just don't know if there's anything really to say about it. Is there anything to say about it? Anything pro, any insights we can take about society? If you hit record, I'll tell you. How about you just tell me now Before we hit recording I'm a coward
Starting point is 00:02:08 Just kidding Honestly, we've been recording this whole fucking time Have we? Yep Oh You guys are screwed Damn Well, here's the thing
Starting point is 00:02:22 Here's the thing about it, okay? When I was young, my tics were like very pronounced, but I didn't have the condition where you just yell. You know, like, I remember being in a government class in college, and this kid goes, Pussy! Wanna lick it?
Starting point is 00:02:42 And we all had to keep a neutral face about it unless we be deemed ablest, you know what I mean? Let me ask you a question. Many people were saying, there were several takes I saw about this. One was like, if you know that's in your tick pool, why go to a public event?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Why go anywhere with black people though? Why don't you self-segregate for the rest of your life? Was there like a guy in the KKK?
Starting point is 00:03:12 I wonder in like the 19th century who had Tourette's but he would like yell like cracker and like piss off all of his KKK is like just a fucking second or actually maybe he wasn't racist
Starting point is 00:03:23 until that tick came out through Tourette's and then he said fuck it well And then he noticed the reception. He might as well join the clad anyway. I'm going to share a deeply personal story about one of the, this is one of the cuddles of Tourette's though. But mine didn't play out in a racist fashion or in a way that's like,
Starting point is 00:03:44 I like yell pussy like inappropriately in a crowded room. Or for that matter, I just thought of a funny one. What if your tick was to yell fire in a crowded room? And you just got a bunch of people kill, you know? It's one of those things. It's one of those intractable things, man, about life is like, there's just no answer to it. Okay? How does the tick work, by the way?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Because I saw people being like, have you ever noticed how Tourette's people never say black power? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Let me explain. Here's how mine played out. And fortunately, I had the overwhelming, like, like urge, not to your slurs, but this urge, but I never, like, it never manifested in, like. to yell what though if not slurs than what here's what if not slurs than what it's it's intrusive thoughts and then people that have that particular manifestation of it like well you know so is it is it sort of like
Starting point is 00:04:39 is it sort of like um and i'm asking honestly here is it sort of like if that's in your tick pool i guess that term you had used earlier is it a thing where you're like okay i know i'm not wait wait wait what term did i use earlier let's just be clear didn't it did somebody say if that term is slurs are Or your tick pool than perhaps, or your pool of like tics that perhaps you should not, you know, you should not go to no. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, you should stay away from anybody that could possibly be offended by your ticks. Which seems racist too. Which seems yourself segregated, I guess. But like, like, is it a thing where I guess you know you're not supposed to say it? And, you know, if anything that makes it you say even more so, you know, because I guess the urge to resist is a kind of like a, I mean, I don't know if this makes. any sense. That's what makes it more likely to save them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the thing, the way it played out for me is I got obsessed with the scripture in the Bible that talked about
Starting point is 00:05:33 blaspheming the Holy Spirit, which is, according to the script, the only unpardonable sin, right? Yeah, I remember that. So what would crop up in my head would be like blasphemic language toward the Holy Spirit. And I would get terrified because, like, I would be a, you know, afraid I would utter it, I would just go to hell. Do not pass gold. Do not collect $200. So thankfully, mine was expressed in religious trauma and not like anything that would be like socially damning, like racism or, you know, sexism or just weirdly inappropriate stuff. You know what I mean? But like it, the way it does play out is you get like an intrusive thought based on like a cue or something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah, black people inward. Okay, yeah. Whatever. Like in the ether. You know what I mean? And then you just, the way it plays out is it's just like, it just bears on, bears on, bears on, bears on, bears on, bears on, bears on, bears on, bears on. And then like if you have that particular expression, you know, it is how it could come out. Now, that's not to say that, you know, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo should be insulted in, like, their moment of getting a, uh, uh, fucking award or anything like that. It's one of those truly, that's one of those things that just truly doesn't have an answer. It's just one of those difficult things that you just, you just, I believe your comment to me was that this will actually determine the future of woke. Is it racism or ableism? Who wins out here? You know? It's woke buttoned up against each other, you know what I mean? It's like Godzilla versus King.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I mean, we shouldn't say it. We shouldn't say that. Not saying slurs is not an expression of woke. That's not what I mean. But like it is like, you know, it's kind of like takes the thing that like woke people say about. you know people living with disabilities and stuff and it like butts it up against like the racial justice component of all of it it's like well sometimes you're just not a clay answer in these things well i mean you know if it had been another race of people besides
Starting point is 00:07:36 black people you know right yeah would a race related slur for that specific race be like you know be uh be exchanged for the N-word you know if not then you know maybe this guy uh i mean either way it's just so you're saying for a public relations standpoint he should just go yell all the other slurs too. At inappropriate time for balance. It's to show people he's not an equal opportunity hate or anything. It's actually, yes, I do have to rest. Actually, actually
Starting point is 00:08:01 my mind is overwhelmed with racism across the board. It's the ambient background noise by society. I can't help it. I will say this, I mean, I'll say this though. And I literally have a, of, this condition and I just, I still, like,
Starting point is 00:08:17 I don't have, like, crazy ticks, like when I was little. Like, I used to, like, repeat things. and do like little like gestures and rituals and stuff like that. Thankfully like I've kind of grown out of, but I still do feel like kind of like the urge to do the little ticks and the rituals and stuff sometimes. You know what I mean? But I will say this.
Starting point is 00:08:36 It's like, it's like not to like be like, you know, the Tourette's people are full of shit and all this guy, da-da-da-da-da. But like the reason that that lodged in my head, the thing that lodged in my head lodged in my head is because I was in church every fucking Sunday. you know what I mean like if I never had heard that it may not have been like that wouldn't be something I would have been tormented with if that makes sense do you know what I'm saying no that makes purpose which which says a lot more about the kind of society we live in than like this own individual man's like you know whatever like that like like race and like how we subjugate
Starting point is 00:09:14 certain people in society is like so in the ether that it's like become like a sort of a even the thread of this like even is like out there or something like that and that's not to say that like that's his clean cut is saying like oh he had racism in his heart that's why he said that's not what I mean I just made so you're saying so you're saying that I'm speaking only for myself
Starting point is 00:09:36 not the whole community in the 1950s when it was like day regurg to say that word and not considered taboo to say it a Tourette's person would not say it but you're saying paradoxically woke produce the social conditions in which that would happen. I'm not saying woke produce the social condition.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I'm saying that we're living a very racist. Are you saying a guy with Tourette's at like, like, you know, MOK's, I have a dream speech, you know. And he actually is a supportive of civil rights, but he just happens to have Tourette's. And as soon as I have a dream, he just sounds like the end word. And it's just like silence and shabby. I mean, that would have been commonplace then, I guess. Well, that's what I guess what I'm trying to understand. like why has this not happened before?
Starting point is 00:10:22 I mean, it's happened plenty before. Like, I mean, I've been in rooms with like, I used to have this neighbor. At an award show? No, no, no, this was at. He wasn't at the BAFTA. He was just lived beside me. I'm not talking about your friend.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I'm talking about like, it's happened before, like, in a public. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you got some whole movies we need to talk about, Tom. What do you mean? No, no, but I've seen people be like, I saw my neighbor, like, he was, like, he was bad. Like, he was, like, twitchy as hell and would, like, just yell the shit and he couldn't control it. And, like, he would usually be sitting around, like, having dinner, and he would just yell, like, crazy, like, off the wall shit, you know. Oh, man, yeah, that's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:11:14 So it's, like, I don't know. Like, the condition is such that, like, in the Bible, they would have. said you were possessed by damans or something you know so yeah so i just can't think of a more hell of situation than being a white guy having Tourette's and yelling the n-word at two you know esteemed black people at a public you know event
Starting point is 00:11:31 seems like a hell of situation i'm just trying to understand how it works is it basically like if there's a if there's a now he's backing off look no i was speaking from my own experience i have no idea how it works like no i need to understand what would make him say the edward I was pausing. I was I was positing just one theory
Starting point is 00:11:56 about what it could be. You know what I mean? You wanted to talk about it, so I'm going to press you on it. I need answers. Well, I think there is a connection, if I'm not mistaken. I think there is a connection to play like obsessive-compulsive disorder and like Tourette's. Like Tourette's is sort of like a neurological manifestation of like obsessive-compulsive. and like part of that is like intrusive thoughts that like you'll get into a situation and you'll
Starting point is 00:12:22 think about like what's the the like it's a situation that would give you discomfort if this manifested and then you just do you know what I'm saying right it's kind of like I was saying earlier like this is something you definitely know you're not supposed to say and do but that socially taboo intrusive thought just makes you just say it like what you're constantly bombarded with what you're constantly bombarded with is like what could ruin my life or go horribly wrong in this situation and be like terribly embarrassing for me and then you do it and then your mind
Starting point is 00:12:52 just like like it's like it's like this pressure builds up until it like you know what I mean it boils over you know interesting so I could see that my question is why they have my man miced up yeah that seems
Starting point is 00:13:08 that seems strange wait was he was he not in the audience he's a mic on his lapel or whatever I think he was in the audience but somebody said that he was mocked up or something like that. Okay. Which makes it feel like a little. You don't give the guy with Tourette's a mic that he could wear all the time.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I don't know if that's true. I got to preface that with him allegedly. But there's a couple things about this that feel a little, you know what? No, it was probably, the take I saw that probably made the most sense was this just an unfortunate situation for everyone. That is. So this isn't like a false flag, like slur attack or something like that? No, I don't think it was a, no, I don't think it was a. I do feel bad for the guy.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I really do. Because he's an advocate. Isn't he also an advocate where he's done like a documentary or two about Tourette's? Like it just seems like it seems like the worst thing that could happen to any, well, not me because I'm black. So if I said it, he would have been like, yo, Michael B. Jordan Pub like, yo, you know, but nah, man. I mean, like, it's the worst thing that could have happened, you know, to a white person, honestly,
Starting point is 00:14:09 specifically a white person. Aaron, you don't have to hand it to. Not the worst thing, but the most like socially just cringy where you just kind of fold in on yourself. You know what I mean? Like, you know, like we, it's like we say like, oh, well, why didn't he say this about like this, this stuff? Like we were, he probably has like done things like that. He probably has been in situations that were like very socially embarrassing for him because you start thinking about, like, okay, I'm in this room and I'm incredibly anxious.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like what is what is the one thing that could like fucking just totally embarrass? the hell out of me and like you know what I mean and then like you've become like overwhelmingly you know what I mean it's like that's it's it's yeah it's it's a it's a it's a difficult thing to talk about no I mean not to say that if he had said it to anybody else it would have been any better but Michael B. Georgia fan to see the look on Delroy Lindo's face like that's Darylindo's face yeah I love I would have I figured to hung myself to disappoint Delo Lindo not that he should do that i'm not saying he should do that i'm just saying i do feel bad i do feel bad for the gentleman
Starting point is 00:15:21 involved um that's my take on it i feel bad i feel bad for everybody involved it's a wildly unfortunate situation as a as a spectacle though it's an interesting thing i don't do the it's i guess you're right it will kind of determine the future of woke like what are you going to allow? What are we going to like it's like racism is Godzilla then Met Godzilla is like Abelism like Godzilla versus Met Godzilla
Starting point is 00:15:53 So what you're saying You're saying we put Michael B. Jordan this guy in a ring together. Let him duke it out. He played Paulo Creed. He wasn't, you know, he's got hands, I'm sure. Maybe we should have a movie where Michael B. Jordan plays a character. with Tourette's.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And he's coached by this guy. There. Man, oh, man. Will we have to scrap this segment? 17 minutes of this segment? That'll be the true test of what the future looks like. Speaking of segments that may need to be scrapped, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Did you guys see this video of, since we're just talking about videos that are going around, did you all see this video of these dudes? You know how there's these like viral videos of guys who basically, I guess you could say, it's like Chris Hansen. It's like they kind of bait pedophiles into like a situation where they can then be like, you're a fucking pedophile, you know what I mean? And then like they beat them up or they get too far away from it. Imagine a guy with Tourette's going on, Chris Hanson.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I did it. Well, if you're saying that it works in a situation where it's taboo, wouldn't that guy be screaming, like, I love to fuck adults? Yeah. 35 plus. Mature only. I can say it Because I don't have
Starting point is 00:17:46 True it Okay man This is Shoo Um This video of this guy Who Okay
Starting point is 00:17:56 These these guy These four dudes They're They make these videos Where they like Catch pedophiles You know the ones I'm talking about Right
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah Yeah went to the guy's classroom. He was a professor at UGA, University of Georgia, Athens. And they were like, they like walked in the classroom. They were like, excuse me, everybody, your professor's a pedophile. Follow me on Instagram. They were like, they were like, your professor's a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:18:33 He was talking to a 14-year-old boy. But stay in school and keep doing good in school. You guys are doing great and follow me on Instagram. So basically the guy that snatched all the Charlie Kirk merch at the scene of the murder is now to play in Chris Hansen. Pretty much, yeah. Does he not carry out copies of conversations, like leaked alleged conversations, like pass it down? Give it to the first person, pass it down. Day four, pass it back.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Here's the child transcript for the sick fuck. Well, the professor is like freaking out. He's like, no. he's like, I'm sorry I did this. I should have stopped talking to him and he tries to hug one of the guys and he's like, he's like, you need to go report yourselves to the police.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I don't want to hug him in a pedophile actually. Yeah, you should have stopped yourself at that point. I don't know why, but it's one of the best videos I've ever seen, not just because they like, it's like the genre, this is a real thing. This is a real thing. Like the genre of video
Starting point is 00:19:36 where they catch pedophiles, in my opinion, is like, I mean, it's obviously like really stupid and bad. It kind of like trivializes like the crimes of the person that's doing this and also makes a spectacle of it and doesn't actually, you know, produce justice for the victims and all this. Yeah, it doesn't seem like Chris Hansen had a big effect on society. No, it didn't. Definitely. Well, when the president himself is a pedophile, like there's only, they need to bring Chris Hansen out of retirement to do one final job. One life's job.
Starting point is 00:20:08 He should have went to the state of the union, stepped in, and sat on, like, the lectern of some shit like that. I think these dudes, these dudes do a much better job than Chris Hansen. I like that they just walked into a classroom. They were like, uh, your professor's a pedophile. Keep doing good. Stay in school. You guys are doing great.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And follow me on Instagram. I like to follow me on Instagram. I like that. Here's where you can see more of this. I hope he's got like, you know how like, sometimes people that work at like Coca-Cola. or something will have a car with like the logo emblazoned on the side of the vehicle or whatever. I hope he's got like one of those, but it's like the Instagram to catch a predator type thing. Like it's with his Instagram handle and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Maybe some lines. You see that car, you know. That would be. Also, I feel like it's helpful to do it in front of his students, you know. You need to bring back that kind of public shaving. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Like you're getting an A plus at that point.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Like your professors, like not... You've got the ultimate blackmail on your professor at that point. You do. Give me an A, this semester, next semester. He was like a math professor, too. He was like, he had like equations on the board and shit. It's like Goodwill hunting, but he's like a pet. How do you, how do you like...
Starting point is 00:21:32 A pedophazabot? So, like... He's like, this shit is easy for me. This shit is easy for me. mean, it's like chats transcripts, like the Epstein files. He's like, this shit is easy for me. What do you do? How do you just go back to teaching the class after that intrusion?
Starting point is 00:21:48 I think you have to resign in shame and maybe move to Albania. Like immediately, or do you like, well, I'll do that after the class. But so anyway, and then you just go back to wrap your throves on the board. At that point, you should just hang yourself out of the window, you know, like the beginning of the Obed, the old one. where the main is hanging outside of the window hundreds of feet above that's what he should probably do it. I thought you were positing a very funny riffy.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I didn't know there was a guy that was already in the business doing it. See, this is where, this is where, you know, I'm not one big, I'm not one for public shaming. I hate those videos where it's like somebody who should not be recording at work. Like, I don't know, I've seen a video with a nurse recording at work.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I've seen videos with the, just people just, you know, you put a phone. in everyone's hand they just want to get there 15 minutes or seconds of fame but I think this is a good use of social media totally I agree 100%
Starting point is 00:22:49 and I just like how cool and casual the dude was about it he was like y'all stay in school keep doing a good job your professor's a pedophile but y'all are doing good it should be like you should start doing flash mobs you know I don't know if pedophiles hang out in a specific place
Starting point is 00:23:05 I mean maybe children's playgrounds but it should like a group of people running out really quick and you know just pedophile, pedophile, pedophile with the documents, yeah. No, you're right. They should have got that guy for the state of the union. Like Trump's like in the middle of something and he like comes out with the documents.
Starting point is 00:23:21 He's like, y'all are doing great. Keep passing laws. 3600 mansions in the files. Your president is a pedophile and follow me on Instagram. It's always like when Chris Hansen sitting in the person's house like at a kitchen bar or an island or stuff like this. I like that. I like that, like, that, like, they went to his place
Starting point is 00:23:41 because I feel like Chris Hansen always lures them to a third space, like a neutral space, like a boat or... A museum? Well, see, you're mixing up Cheaters with his other show. Oh, am I really? You have to catch a predator. The Catcher Predator was always at a staged house. Yeah, but Cheaters was his other show.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You're right. He did do that, but that was for philandering husbands. Wait, wait, wait, wait. A third... You're saying a staged house. It's not a third space? No, no, no, no, no, it is. But I think the would-be pedophile thinks he's going to the girls' house,
Starting point is 00:24:14 which was always like, wow, which was always crazy. I was like, who do you think is home with a 13 year? Well, I mean, it is like in a suburb, you know what I'm saying? They're not going to put it like in a department complex or anything. Like they make it look like, you know, this is a perfectly safe situation, you know, where this crepe believes in it. My favorite was when Chris Hansel would always go. Have good evening tonight, Wayne?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Uh-huh. Ericana's heart would start beating and he was like, where are you going with the pizzas, wine? I just, I have a friend here. Oh, you do.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Did you know your friend was 13 years old? He's like, oh no, well, according to the chat transcript. Roll out like a toe, it'd be like a scroll a page printout. And then there was like, some of those guys were like, yeah, I'm a sick fuck.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I deserve to die. Have there been iterated? of Chris Hansen throughout history like was there like a fifth century BC Chris Hansen who is like lured them to the Egyptian pyramids and like unscrolled the papyrus
Starting point is 00:25:18 Hyroglyphirics and stuff I feel like the Greeks would have a hard time with that you know because they have like they're like a fiends and shit like that they lures the entire Grecian like country Athens the city of Athens
Starting point is 00:25:35 too like all the nation states to one like just valley in the hill and it's like so you're all pedophiles his arms his arms just called the entire valley of people Athenians
Starting point is 00:25:54 Spartans Spartans you're all pedophiles it's right here it's right here on the papyrus uh huh oh man that's what Xerxes's Messenger
Starting point is 00:26:06 was trying to do in three years hundred but they kicked him home before they kicked he had the documents that's a good metaphor for today man there's always documents not too many documents not enough documents there's always documents chris hanson um well i just liked that uh i thought that was like a beautiful long-time listeners of the show will know that i am a big fan of videos that could be like outsider art like they're unintentional masterpieces of like videography and that's one of them like it's um you know what I mean should be in the criterion closet like UGA professor gets busted by the homies
Starting point is 00:26:58 you got out of the criteria in closet it's just 18 second clips of your favorite Yeah Fuck your house And punching the guy out That'd be in there We should replace faces of death With that Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:16 Totally I found out some stuff About snuff films recently Deeply disturbing They're still out there Apparently Yeah it's Twitter itself is just a snuff film
Starting point is 00:27:28 100% Yeah you don't say I feel like I open one up. I open Twitter and I see at least one every time I open it. Like something comes up. Like someone getting their legs blown off. Like the one yesterday of the
Starting point is 00:27:43 14 year old kid dropping 450 pound barbell on his chest. Like that kid's... Unless that was AI, like that kid's gotta be dead. Oh, ho. Well. We're insane, boys. You just made me think about it too with the AI now.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You can either create your own snuff film or pass it off as a snuff film or you can't know. I don't even know the difference anymore. Yeah, exactly. I can't tell the difference. We passed some sort of threshold in the last two months where I can't even tell the difference anymore between AI
Starting point is 00:28:17 and non-AI videos. It's, you know what I'm saying? Like we're fully through the looking glass. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta be pretty sharp on it for some of them. Some of it's still obvious slot, but yeah, they've improved the technology somehow. I've got I've gotten got more times in the last two months than ever before,
Starting point is 00:28:35 which is saying something because I've gotten got frequently over the years. Factorily. It's backwatered that I am. I feel like dude is getting good enough where, you know, we're all scrolling really fast and catching images really fast. So I'm not doing that discerning thing where I'm like, how many fingers does this thing have, you know? I just kind of see it.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And I kind of see it. And now I just assume that, kind of assume that everything I'm looking at is fake in a way, you know? Yeah. They're in the safe zone. You're like, well, who's the safe? that's not Alfon Seca, the major league baseball pitcher with six fingers. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Well, the fingers thing is, like, we've blown past that. They figured the fingers thing out, like, three months ago. Exactly. So, like, you can't even tell that. The video at UGA Athens might have been AI, as far as we know. There might be no pedophile professor. It might be an AI. Imagine if there is a pedophile professor at UGA that looks exactly like the AI guy in the video.
Starting point is 00:29:31 He's just like, God, I got it. I'm so happy people think this is AI. Yeah, yeah. On the other hand, a lot of people won't believe this is real. Exactly. That was a close one. Well, there's also another manifestation on the campus of society's external ills, and that's St. John's Red Storm, formerly the racist red people,
Starting point is 00:29:57 basketball the racist they used to have a racist mascot but they changed it to the red storm yeah yeah and so is it like a Native American supremacy based team
Starting point is 00:30:14 I don't know I'm just thinking I think they were the St. John's Red men before and then I think they changed it to the Red Storm but last night in a you know an example of art mirroring reality what is it art or imitating life
Starting point is 00:30:31 art imitating life or life imitating art the St. John's restaurant the number 15 ranked team in the country didn't hit a single shot in the last 17 minutes and 58 seconds of a ball game now yeah I know you guys aren't like you know sports guys in the same way but the odds of something like that happening
Starting point is 00:30:56 without any sort of like intent are on par with like getting struck by lightning twice and eat by a shark and eaten by shark probably because you have to think it's like you can go on a stretch you know what I mean but essentially you're one of the best teams in the country
Starting point is 00:31:15 and you just don't hit a shot a single shot in the second half in the last 18 minutes that's like I love stories like that dude I love epic like I love stories of people melting down collectively and then like their failure and shame and embarrassment feeding into each other's failure and shame embarrassment until it becomes like a moving train wreck to such an extent that you know what I mean like it almost breaks the seams of reality itself
Starting point is 00:31:43 where reality has to comment on it like yo this shit is great well the thing about it all is it's like every every facet of society now feels like it has an insidification like component attached to it. So like sports, like sports that threatens the legitimacy. So the gambling apps threaten the legitimacy of sports in the same way as like fascism threatens the legitimacy of, you know, the American government as well as like, you know, all the crypto grift and everything that they're in all the ways that we've talked about ad nauseum about them turning us upside down, shaking the coins out of our pockets, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:23 But like just everything is so illegitimate. now. Even our own conception of reality. Like we're talking about like the AI has gotten so good that you actually have to sit there and scan for a little bit and it takes your brain a second to catch up and realize, oh wait. This is like a little unlikely. Or like
Starting point is 00:32:40 me, you just choose not to believe in anything you know. What do you see this image? It's just like I don't even know I don't care. It's I know we've talked about it before but just the insincerity of American politics, how it just insincerity is across the board. and just I think Jasmine Crockett is kind of the best embodiment and Gavin Newsom like the recent turn of like centrist liberals to just pure wacko spectacle like they've obviously always been about spectacle but it was like within a prescribed range of activity and behavior but now like Jasmine Crockett being a
Starting point is 00:33:23 popular subject for like AI bots on YouTube and whatnot you know what I'm saying it's just her kicking like media out of her press conferences and stuff yeah like Gavin Newsom like it's almost like they're taking a if you can't beat them
Starting point is 00:33:38 they're so addicted to the pursuit of power that like they're taking a if you can't beat them join them approach to like a patently unpopular administration well and it's just power for power's sake like they don't believe in anything so it's like Why do you want power?
Starting point is 00:33:54 That's what I've never really understood about, like, Gavin Newsom. It's like, you don't believe anything. So why do you want power? Like, with Trump, Trump does believe in one thing and it's money. It's like, you know, it's the most expedient route towards getting it. But, like, I mean, maybe Gavin Newsom is an insane, you know, money, hungry businessman, too. But I don't, it doesn't seem like it. What is your purpose?
Starting point is 00:34:18 What are you there for? I get what you're saying. Yeah, what are you there for? Because Trump is. pretty much all about self-enrichment, you know. And for these Democrats, it just feels like, I mean, I don't know, I guess this is why there's sort of this nihilism maybe. I don't know if that's what you want to call it, or pessimism widespread throughout
Starting point is 00:34:35 the Democratic Party base, you know, because it's sort of, I think, people realizing that, oh, they don't even stand for anything, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, on that note, did you all see how the Pete Hegg said, and the Department of Defense is trying to ban Anthropic from its supply chains and stuff. Because Anthropic has, like, raised these concerns about AI and how it will be used in the, like, all-encompassing surveillance state.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And the Department of Defense's response, like, this is how far things have degraded since the War on Terror. The Department of Defense's response is that if you don't let us use your AI for basically, like warrantless wiretapping, you know, basically illegal surveillance, all this list of things that would have been considered civil rights violations 20, 30, 40 years ago.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Like, we are basically going to cut you out of the defense supply chain. Which is a healthy seam of basically welfare for a lot of these outlets. Yeah, right, exactly. Because these AI companies have no other application for their fucking AI. That's why they're trying to push it on you at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It's like, look, we can only use this to kill millions of people, you know, at scale. Like, that's the only use for this technology. And these countries are so over leveraged in it. And that's kind of what's proper not, or these countries. These companies are so over leveraged in it that it's what's popping up the economy, that they're even basically like, like, what do you call it when you're like phasing something out? Not sundowning.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Planned obsolescence? Sundown. I don't think. Sun setting? Sunsetting? Sunsetting. They're sunseting, like viable, like, business models just to, like, because they can't coexist with, like, AI.
Starting point is 00:36:35 But they're so over-leverged with AI, they're, like, they're just trying to make, like, Shinole out of shit, I guess, in this case. Or, you know, chicken salad out of chicken shit. That's why I was going for it. You know what? It really does remind me, though, how far we've come. because after like the Snowden, what, Prism revelations, you know, and people were accusing all these telecommunications companies,
Starting point is 00:37:00 it was pretty much installing a backdoor, you know, into their software, into their tech that would allow, you know, the NSA or other surveillance agencies to easily spy on people. And now that was something that people were really up against. And, I mean, there was even some sort of like, I don't want to say pushback, but I remember a few tech companies running campaigns about how they were there to protect your privacy, you know, something that people weren't so concerned about. And now it's pretty much like, no, this is what we do, you know. We give this information over to the Department of Defense
Starting point is 00:37:30 willingly. Now, this is that this is from the financial times. U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth has threatened to cut Anthropic from its department supply chain unless it agrees to sign off on its technology being used in all lawful military applications by Friday. The threat is the latest escalation in a feud between Anthropic and the department, triggered by the AI group's refusal to give unfettered access to its models for classified military use, including domestic surveillance and deadly missions with no direct human control. I guess we talked about this before, but Anthropics, the one AI company that, like, they try to adopt this sheen of, like, liberalism and enlightened, you know, like rationality when
Starting point is 00:38:13 it comes to AI. And it's like they're kind of running into the hard contradiction of that, which is, like, we said a second ago, there's no application for this outside just targeting, using AI models to basically target and map out like millions of targets for liquidation and extermination. Like Gaza is pretty much the example of how AI, that's the only application for it. That's, again, that's why it makes, that's why they're pushing it on you so hard for you to, you to use Alexa and for you to, you know, use all these other models like on your refrigerator and stuff. It's because they have no fucking use for it.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Now phones are coming pre-shipped with AI, like software, you know, baked into the operating system. Yeah. But also, on that note, this is also from the Financial Times, Wall Street turns to complex trades to dodge AI implosions. Investment banks hawk complex hedging strategies as whackamol sell-off rips through U.S. stocks. What you're saying, Tom, like these companies are massively over-leveraged in each other.
Starting point is 00:39:18 They've been buying each other's stocks and like, you know, basically like the mechanisms, the financial mechanisms they go through to prop up this industry to make it look like robust is phenomenal. And I guess over the last like couple weeks, really since the beginning of the year, the Wall Street has been panicking.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Like how do we stave off a collapse of the bubble? And so like you're seeing like it says here a kind of unprecedented use of various financial instruments to try to avoid the collapse of this bubble that we all know is essentially coming. What are these bundles include? Like, what are they just the slapping shit together? Like different assets? Investors are riding out the Wackham Wall software sell-off by loading up on protection against volatility
Starting point is 00:40:04 and exploiting the divergence in sectors tip to be either winners or losers from AI's advance. Some of Wall Street's biggest players are turning to complex options in hedging strategies to navigate a market buffeted by blog post. and headlines that have recently wiped tens of billions of dollars off the value of some of S&P 500's largest tech groups. I think where this started, this started about a month ago when investors started trying to reallocate their money out of AI and into these safer bets like grocery stores and, you know, stuff like that, service industry, health care, that kind of stuff. but now it's kind of reached a point where they now have to essentially start like it says here like confronted with such feebrow markets stock picking has become a matter of quote avoiding implosions investors are embracing so-called dispersion trades which involved buying single stock volatility while selling index volatility to profit from the gap between this s mp 500's relatively subdued
Starting point is 00:41:12 daily moves and large price wings for individual companies. So basically, it's whackamol. It's surgical. Like, they're going in through independent stocks then through these, like, index. But it's... That seems like a smart way to keep it afloat. It seems like that scene on Apollo 13 where they're like, all right, this is what we have to do.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Like, you know, we have to slingshot around the moon. It might be possible, but I don't know. We're going to find out. Never been tried before, I guess. Good luck. Good luck. It's like this hot spot episode we're 42 minutes into. It's like it's never been tried before, but we still do good right now.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Opening with two highly volatile, loaded topics of debate that we might have to cut out of the final product. Never been done before. I mean, you know, AI, you know, that is, what? is obviously but like you know just on the note of some of the things we've also discussed like some more things just i wanted to throw on the stockpile here um on the stockpile i meant i meant to say pile but i was reading a are you stockpiling weapons i am not stockpiling weapons but ice is oh god trump's ice is quietly stockpiling weaponry and it should alarm us all this This is from Greg Sargent in the New Republic.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Greg Sargent. Sounds like the guy to write this article. He talks about like how the War on Terror was an example of how like funding large bureaucracies resulted in these dynamics and technologies that now are with us forever. And so, but he talks about here to wit a handful of private companies that, manufacture weaponry and ammunition have already linked very lucrative contracts with DHS, which will provide it with enormous stockpiles of military style equipment, some to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, according to data from Senator Adam Schiff's office, which is probing DHS contracts. The pile up of all that equipment hints at a major long-term problem.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Just as we saw in the long aftermath of September 11th, this new and evolving MAGA terror bureaucracy will expand in grotesque ways. It too will grow less constrained as it amasses more troops and more firepower. A harrowing glimpse of this future lies in a new report by shift that has gotten surprisingly little notice. It finds that ICE and customs and border protection have formally approved contracts for at least a whopping $144 million in weapons, ammo, and other accessories during Trump's first year. It says the analysis documents at least a fourfold increase for ICE and a doubling for
Starting point is 00:44:10 CBP relative to 2024, concluding that this will, quote, build a heavily armed domestic police force. It's eye-opening stuff. One-ice contract is with Geisel Automatics, blah, blah, blah. I mean, this is, like, long. This is, especially, like, I don't know, worrisome because it's not like, it's not like, I guess, it's not so much like police departments getting, like, all this weaponry from, like, you know, the Department of Defense, for example, you know? It's like that are held,
Starting point is 00:44:43 this is like a federal agency that's only, I guess, answerable to the, I guess, I don't know, not even... The president. Pretty much. Not even Congress, it seems to be the president, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I think that the effect will be...
Starting point is 00:45:02 You've basically empowered a bunch of paramilitary racist thugs. to be the president's like personal janitor series, right? And they're going to use that to whatever ends. These contracts expose how DHS has set in motion a massive surge in spending to put even more dangerous weapons in ICE and CBP's arsenal. What's fascinating is that, like, you know, I'm not saying anything that you guys in the audience don't already know.
Starting point is 00:45:31 But like, why the fuck does ICE and CBP even need weapons in the first place? if you're deporting individuals, they say, I guess, it's because they're violent, but they're not deporting. They're deporting everybody they can, right? There's no differentiation between if a person is violent or not. It's anybody that get their eyes on. Like, did you guys see this story of this refugee?
Starting point is 00:45:56 I guess he fled genocide in Burma. This guy in Buffalo, he's blind, Nural Shal Alam, who was blind, a survivor of genocide in Burma, and was a refugee in Buffalo, CBP or ICE picked him up and then dropped him off miles from his home. Five miles away from his home
Starting point is 00:46:16 at some fucking restaurant or something like that. He got killed on the way home, trying to find his way home. Yeah. It's just, I mean, I guess I point this out because I saw a story in the Wall Street Journal that said, that said Americans are leaving the United States in record numbers.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Did you all see this? No, I'm going where. And which Americans. I can't access the articles because I don't have a way to bypass. Maybe if you had that fiber. If I had the fiber, maybe. In nearly all of the European Union's 27 member states,
Starting point is 00:46:58 the number of Americans arriving to live and work is at a record in rising. Even Albania is now flooded with American migrants. Even Albania. A Gallup poll last year found 40% of American women ages 15 to 44 would like to permanently move overseas if possible. By comparison in 2023, the same pollster found that a slightly smaller proportion of sub-Saharan Africans, 37% wish to do the same. Strikingly, the new American migrant is more likely than ever to bring children in tow laying down roots. You don't face the prospect of your five-year-old going into a kindergarten and doing an active shooter drill.
Starting point is 00:47:33 The wages are higher in the U.S., but the quality of life is higher in Europe. So I think it's people kind of across the board to answer one of your else's questions. Like it's, I don't know if there's any. Yeah. There were American refugees trying to re-kickstart the Huxian Revolution. Albania, what were we? I think, yeah, I think Albania is a pretty chill place now for Americans. I'm just laughing because, I mean, the person just said, even Albania, like, damn, what's wrong with Albania?
Starting point is 00:48:05 My point. Even Albania, if you can believe it. My point is, is like, I don't, I don't know. I personally don't, I don't see anything wrong with that. Like, why the fuck would anybody stay in this piece of shit country at this point? There's nothing to fight for. Yeah, I think you'd be forgiven if you want to jump shit. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:48:30 In Kansas, they're depriving trans people of their driver's license, stripping them of their driver's license and identifications. and making them go back in and re-register under their quote correct gender like there's there's nothing left here right you know what I mean for like increasingly larger and larger blocks of American so like why the fuck would anybody stay well and did you say that Oz and Vance were put a moratorium on all these
Starting point is 00:48:58 like different medical devices and instruments and treatments and stuff it's like for Minnesota for Minnesota specifically It was like they were specifically targeting, which is like my response to that is like, why the fuck at that point send your tax revenues to the federal government? If they're not gonna fucking give you back what the taxes pay for,
Starting point is 00:49:22 why send the federal government your tax revenue? And better yet, why not just fucking secede altogether? Why stay in a fucking union that's increasingly, a government is increasingly antagonistic? Part of me kind of thinks that they think that this will all return to normalcy when Trump is out of office, you know. But at the same time, like, I don't think that's necessarily true.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Like, certain things that have been set in motion, I can't imagine Democrats. I can't imagine the capitalist class, like, going, put, pushing, putting that genie back into the bottle, right? I just can't imagine it. Absolutely not. There's just nothing you can point to here. That would be like, oh, well, there's some promise for tomorrow. No.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I feel that in my personal life. Kentucky basketball fucking sucks, and also, we don't have any good player side. player signed for next year much less than good players. It's like there's just nothing you can point to where it's like, okay, it's going to, you know, we just need to bite our time and it'll be better. There's nothing. No, nothing. There's not, I mean, that ice stockpiling weapons article is a perfect example of it. There is nothing left here. The government has completely beefed itself up on Zionism, just the most insane nationalist ideology, genocidalism.
Starting point is 00:50:38 ideologies you can think of. Christian and Jewish Zionism, Christian Jewish supremacy, eugenics, and on the most weapons you could potentially, and on surveillance technology that you have basically no chance of standing up against. So what the fuck is the point of staying here? Also, I just have to have to point out to just environmental ruin, you know, just that just that sort of like drawing away from this integral climate science that has been used, like I guess to push a lot of regulations, you don't own these companies, these pollutant companies? I mean, is a Democrat going to come back in office? And, like, even if the Democrat reasserts that we believe in climate science, is anything actually going to be done? So even on that front, making, making sure that
Starting point is 00:51:21 the world or this country isn't as poisonous, you know, as toxic, I mean, I mean, all of these, like, these deregulations of, like, the health and food industry, like industries, you know what I'm saying? I mean, come on, dude. Aaron, on that note, I'm looking for this article I have here. I did see that in the Epstein files, Epstein was talking about how like environmental destruction could be good for overpopulation. Like, you know, again, these are just like day regur beliefs among the bourgeois class. Like, they think that the only solution to this at this point is eugenics and mass liquidation. But also I saw this. Bill Gates says, climate change, quote, will not lead to humanity's demise.
Starting point is 00:52:11 In a memo, the Microsoft co-founder warned against climate alarmism and appeared to have shifted some of his views about climate change. Does anybody give a flying fucking a shit what Bill Gates has got to say about anything? Much like, it's so crazy that he was like, like, that people that, you know, like, the more paranoid among us just smelled something on him for so long, and they were proving correct. I mean, I do think it is very, I mean, just the move going from like this climate apocalyptic, you know what I'm saying? To like really knowing that you yourself will be fine and that humanity will continue. It'll just be in a decimated capacity to your benefit.
Starting point is 00:52:53 That's, I mean, that's just like a level of evil and cynicism that I just don't. Because I mean, this is the guy going around saying for the past couple years now, for over 10 years now, that climate change was such an existential threat to society. Yeah. Well, he very well knows that that might be true, but for these diggas, not for me. I'm just suggesting some things that might affect chill down the line. Yeah, and in the positive at that point, you know what I'm saying? I'm kind of amazed.
Starting point is 00:53:20 That's a great point, Aaron. I'm kind of amazed at, like, the extent to which the leaders, the captains of industries, politicians and all this, just like openly flaunt their hypocrisy now, you know what I'm saying? like Bill Gates being just now unabashedly, essentially a pro-climate change. Or, you know, like I was thinking about this with regards to Iran, how last summer Trump said we totally destroyed Iran's nuclear bomb-making capacity. And now they are...
Starting point is 00:53:54 And now they're two weeks away as they've been for the last 40 years to hear Netanyahu tell it. And maybe the American public is fine with that. I don't know. I saw a, uh, I saw like one of those town hall Vox pop
Starting point is 00:54:08 things on MSNBC where they like pulled a voter, one of the swing voters who, after the state of the union, he was like, well, Trump said we're going to do an $18 trillion dollar investment in,
Starting point is 00:54:19 in America. I like that. I'm going to go ahead and tell you, I could talk that guy and let me fuck his wife and like, you give me an hour. I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:28 can you believe there are people that shit stupid walking around? but the swing voter bro like that's who we trillion that's who we're controlled by
Starting point is 00:54:38 I just love that it's just emphasis on the swing voters somebody that has no conviction at all no integrity
Starting point is 00:54:48 no real opinion is that the only thing they care about is getting on network TV for eight minutes every four years and just spouting the dumbest fucking
Starting point is 00:54:56 drivel you could ever hear from somebody that's really what democracy is at this point. It's this like unholy alliance between like eugenicist, pedophiles, rapists,
Starting point is 00:55:06 and their janissary mass constituency of the swing voter. They've done, they've been gendered all in all of us, a feeling of just like snatch and grab. Like there's no focus on quality or craft anymore. It's just
Starting point is 00:55:22 like we just have to get while the sun's up. You know what I mean? Bocch and all my ears today. But like, But, like, it's just, like, so short-sighted. And they've made that a virtue even worse. And it's made, it's late, I mean, we've talked about it in shitification, all these things. But it's led to all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Because the only thing Americans value is, like, how I can pat out my fucking, you know, like, and I get it. I get the impulse to, like, need that stability and stuff like that, you know. I've experienced precarity in my life, too. And I understand, like, God damn, I'd switch places with just about anybody right now. You know, I've felt that feeling. But with that is kind of a monkey's part. situation where like everything's got quantifiably worse because we've like instead of making that a transient thing we've made that a virtue and now it's just it's not even about like I'm going to get
Starting point is 00:56:12 better and and create value for society it's like how can I get 18 mil real quick and just bounce out yeah I would say 18 trillion I would say too that forgetfulness and not forgiveness but sort of like this idea that like oh like we should not even just forgive these people, but this is just the way that it is, you know? And instead of spending my time, like, trying to, like, care about changing things, the best thing for me to do is just, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:40 buy new products, subscribe to a new streaming service. Yeah, everything's just sort of... Like, the forgetfulness, and that's a virtue in and of itself, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's really sick, dude.
Starting point is 00:56:51 The scope of how bad everything is. This story from NPR reported it, but now NBC and Wall Street Journal have all confirmed it. DOJ hasn't released some Epstein files related to a woman who made an allegation against Trump. The files don't include records from three FBI interviews with a woman who said Jeffrey Epstein abused her and who also made sexual abuse allegations against President Trump. The, I mean, and, you know, we've already seen from the files released that, like in a sworn deposition,
Starting point is 00:57:25 a woman said that Trump threatened to have her killed like he had had already. like an 11 year old girl killed, right? Like something like that. Like it's the skill of how bad it is. And in combination with the rot, specifically, is just like, it's staggering. And like that's why people on our Patreon episode on Monday, some people are like, why all the AOC hate? It's like, I don't even really feel strongly about AOC one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It's just that like me, like pretty much every other American who, gives a shit, who cares, sees nothing on offer that would adequately address how fucking bad things are. The only thing I've seen that even comes close to it, that approximates it, is when Ilan Omar said that, like, pedophiles would be executed. Pedophiles like Trump would be executed where she comes from. That's the only thing I've seen that even comes close to what is required for a national rejuvenation.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I mean, at this point, at this point, I just have to say, you know, whether it's AOC, whether it's Zoran, whether it's Bernie, all of these, like, sort of left liberals, at this point, all of their words and anything that they could say, I mean, I don't know, man, it just falls flat for me, you know? And besides, Ilhan Omar saying that, like, yes, in my country, he would be killed with all the right-wing outlets went and said that, oh, she threatened, she threatened President Trump. Oh, yeah, because, listen, man, I'm so sick of hearing from these fucking losers, dude. Like all you motherfuckers have done for 40 goddamn years, if somebody did that to my daughter, I'd
Starting point is 00:59:04 fucking kill him. I'd fucking kill them. Kill all the fucking pedophiles. You all worship a fucking pedophile. The fuck are you all talking about? What are the benevolent? He's the benevolent. What is their, that is the thing. They are extremely pro-petophile. Like, I feel like you've seen this really surface in the last few weeks. Like, they've had to... It's like the thin line between love and hate. That all. adage. It's like it's a thin line between I'll kill all pedophiles and I'll worship one. Well, that
Starting point is 00:59:37 platform of modern conservatism is like untouchable. You can't actually disturb that. Like, to the extent that they're willing to burn down the entire world to like preserve their leader's ability to just trammel upon.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Also, to defend their own ignorance because they don't want to know anymore. They all of a sudden want to know so much. They're like, we don't want to know anymore. We don't want to know anymore. No. No. That's absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:00:04 No, it's genuinely astonishing. I mean, another thing I had on the list just to demonstrate the lack of moral fiber of these fucking cretans is, I don't, have you all been following this story in Texas with this congressman Tony Gonzalez? He had an affair. Well, first of all, he started. pressuring one of his aides to send him nudes and to send him like lewd text messages
Starting point is 01:00:36 and all this stuff and then wind up having an affair with her and then I guess he broke it off with her and so she self-immolated she set herself on fire killed herself in response to this and and the
Starting point is 01:00:50 like Mike Johnson and everybody though have refused the call for his resignation because the GOP majority in Congress is already raised her fucking thin. Like if they lost any more, they wouldn't be able to do anything. You have a guy that made a young woman
Starting point is 01:01:05 set herself on fire. I'm sorry, we owe Vince Foster. I mean, we should visit his grave and lay treats at his... I know people pointed this out, like the lib boomers love to point this one out, but like the comparison with like Al Franken, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Like, it's kind of interesting, like, how Al Franken like, in comparison... Right, right, right. To this. Like, you know, they managed to successfully get him to resign. But like this guy doing heinous crimes
Starting point is 01:01:35 on an order of magnitude of, you know. And the way in which it kind of man, that is dark as fuck. But just what I'm talking about, I talked about it on the Patreon on Monday, like just the nihilism that's engendered in the population at large.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Like this is like feeling that we're just basically captive to these criminals and pedophiles and rapists. You know what I'm saying? Like it's born and, I wonder if you'd ask, I mean, you know, this is just me saying this, but I wonder if you'd ask people, do you think that this guy should stay in office? I mean, I'm talking about, I guess, conservative Republican voters. Do you think that he should stay in office despite what he's done, despite the trauma that he's caused just so that Republicans could hold on to that slim majority?
Starting point is 01:02:15 And I just wonder how many people would say, yeah, sure, I don't give a shit. I bet a lot. I bet the majority of them would say. A majority of them, right? Yeah. Because what's paramount to them is that leftists and immigrants are brutalized in the streets, trans people. or stripped of rights. Like, that's paramount to them.
Starting point is 01:02:31 That they get to enact mass brutality. Not they themselves. They get to basically pretend that they do with their guns in their fucking blinds, shooting blinds, like in the forest, like getting to pretend that like, and hordes of invaders are coming over the fucking border. But they themselves don't get to actually enact it.
Starting point is 01:02:50 They just get to empower a bunch of, like, 21-year-old, like, steroid freaks who, you know, essentially are, allowed to stockpile weapons and break into people's homes and strip people of their wealth and drop off blind people in the middle of a city they don't know you know what I'm saying it's just that's the equivalent of like dropping people out of helicopters and stuff you know what I'm I mean it's owning the list I mean I hate to put it crudely but it's really owning the lives man that's all they're concerned about yeah it's what it's that it is I mean I mean I'm just to like go
Starting point is 01:03:21 back to a second ago like I guess I'm not like saying people should you know abandon their communities and like give up the fight and flee but like it's just increasingly clear that like there is apparently just no room for maneuvering at this point like it's increasingly um impossible to actually i mean just look at the trajectory and drift of things we've seen in the last 10 years like when is the fucking pendulum going to swing back the other way you know what i'm saying right and in what manner right in what manner would it swing back you know if we talk about it Democratic presidency after Trump, what would that even look like, you know? Who's it going to be, though?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Who's it going to be, though? Yeah. Fucking Gavin Newsom. You know? Who's going to be fucking Commonwealthaires? It's just so much mediocrity at the top. It's just not going to, it's just clearly, clearly not going to come from there. Well, there's no, you know, Trump raised Mondana.
Starting point is 01:04:21 The thing's like, communist guy, nice guy, bad policy. I mean, I guess, like, like, you know, I guess, like, like that could be a model. I've still tried to stay agnostic on it because I could see I can see the usefulness of building up power in these places, but at the same time
Starting point is 01:04:40 he's continuing homeless encampment sweeps. The reason he's doing that, by the way, is way more banal and depressing than even like capitulating on campaign reform campaign demands and
Starting point is 01:04:57 or some like beholdenness to the police or some latent classism or something like that. It's got nothing to do with that really. It is primarily because, when we pointed this out before, municipal leaders like Zoran are beholden to bondholders. That is the primary way we get infrastructure built in this goddamn country at this point.
Starting point is 01:05:20 It's the primary way we get any kind of economic development. Bonds, municipal bonds. And who holds those bonds? bonds, fucking rich people. Wealthy people, fucking banks, you know, out of people not even in those communities. And those are people he has to respond to
Starting point is 01:05:37 as a leader at the municipal level. So like you're already beholden to several mechanisms of control, which you don't even have any ability to. It kind of mirrors the housing market at like the citizen level. You know what I mean? Like where like power and money and wealth is kind of tied up and owning your own home. And if you're on the outside,
Starting point is 01:05:57 of that, and like, there's no reason for that. That's why, you know, Trump, we've talked about the last several weeks, Trump continued to give them these handouts to older people who were disproportionately owning all the homes and so forth. And while we stare down the barrel of a pitiful 50-year mortgage, you know. Yeah. I just, I don't know. It's just like I said, it's a kind of like paralysis.
Starting point is 01:06:22 But anyways, to get back to, yeah, what I was saying, it's like, yeah, there's a kind of, of increasingly inability to maneuver operate in this like you know the walls kind of keep closing in i don't i don't know i don't know what to do i mean i'm just saying it's not like i can fucking leave this country i've never left the country ever i've never traveled outside of the u.s i've not even fucking gone to mexico i went into canada for like 15 minutes you're from mexico what the fuck would i yeah dog isn't it true that isn't it true that a great majority overwhelming majority, I don't know about majority, overwhelming number of Americans don't even have a password.
Starting point is 01:07:01 That's probably true, yeah. I mean, I am, I am emblematic of like the parochial American state of mine, but it's just like I just don't, I don't know. Didn't know your first time leaving the country would be going to Albania to live. I mean, I'm not saying, yeah, I'm not saying I'm going anywhere. I'm just saying it like, It's a choice that I think people would probably do well to start actually considering because this place, I mean, like, this place is overrun by hordes of just, um, savages. We live, it's a fucking, I've said it before. It's a mental asylum, yes. It's a fucking goddamn mental asylum. You know how, you know how I guess you would say like the hordes at the gates of the city, you know, except I guess like they're already here and they always have.
Starting point is 01:07:56 have been here, and now they're just cannibalizing everybody else. Something that I wanted to read, I really wish I'd seen it before we recorded on Monday. Because, man, oh man, it is a... Is this Elizabeth Holmes mad about them letting them stay up late to watch the BET Awards? I did not see that way. This is a big week for racism. Yeah, Gavin Newsom. basically tell black America he's dumb just like them you had the BAFTA thing and then you
Starting point is 01:09:06 had Elizabeth Holmes saying that I don't know why they'll let them stay up past curfewed watch the BET Awards but if I want to watch this thing it's such a problem or whatever is she talking about like in prison yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what the fuck does she want to stay up and watch like fucking gun smoke I will I as a gun smoke fan I will say worth it What was it? I don't say. I'll see what it was. My federal prison can't let inmates stay up past count for the BET Music Awards.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Last night, they wouldn't let us stay up to watch the state of the union. The Bureau of Prisons would rather be entertained than educated. The system is broken. You know what? I'm going to say this. This is a rare W for the BOP. Yeah. I mean, because if you're watching BAFTA, if you're watching the BAFTA words,
Starting point is 01:09:56 like, that was some education that we saw. was we saw some of the Tourettes we saw an anthropological study we did live I'm sorry the BETT awards not the BAFT awards oh BET words are kind of I mean like even though the VET awards is not what it was was probably definitely I would still rather watch that than a two-hour state of the union address without what the fuck education are you getting watching the state of the union how bad everything is how much worse it's going to get there'd wait need to keep Elizabeth Holmes. I don't support incarceration. I'll go ahead and tell you that.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Okay. But she's one of those people along with not a few magas that we need to put in some magnito type plastic prison that you can't. You know what? Just to err on the side of caution. That's a dangerous that's a dangerous individual. She raised billions.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Billions. On a just an impot, like a product that defied possibility. Well, she's so charismatic, Tom. She's so charismatic, you know.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Dude, she's got, I've seen those. That was crazy eyes. That is, she is a really great example of how bottomless, how completely like void of any soul or substance 2010's liberalism was. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:11:19 Like, that she had no charisma, but like, not only 2010's liberalism, but like zero percent interest rates, like, giving out free money liberalism era was in the sense that like no she had no charisma but they just needed an elizabeth home so they just constructed her out of nothing you know what she's like dude she gives off this very like yes early 2000s like mid 2000s like early 2000s like sort of like um aesthetic where i think like the term for it was called frugate phrudeville era or something like
Starting point is 01:11:49 that where everything was like sleek and futuristic yeah this this came from operating systems to like devices themselves they needed like in elizabeth's homes like that. They needed like the future. The future. Like the future. Like the. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Exactly. Like that G was a G7 or I think G6 computer the colored one. Kind of sleek lines and not yet. Yeah. We needed the sleek white woman and ice queen like that, bro. They needed to look fearlessly into the future. They're like, yeah, we need that and we need her to hawk a product that says it can diagnose cancer with just a prick of blood.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Drop of blood. Like if Lex Luthor was a babe and hot, but also still evil. Damn. I never really thought of her as attractive it anyways. I've always like, she's like a blank space. Like whenever I look at her,
Starting point is 01:12:35 I get like face blindness. One of those people that there is nothing behind those eyes. Like they're dead, like a shark's eyes kind of. She was the last of a dying breed of a specific type of individual that rose like a phoenix from the ashes after COVID.
Starting point is 01:12:51 And I mean like the Sam Altman's and stuff, right? Like she was the previous iteration of Sam Altman in like a different political economy and culture. Very strange. Yeah, she was the proto billionaire lib, you know. Yeah. Well, um. Why were we talking about her?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Oh, her, uh, racist. Also, I do have to add that. I think it is, I didn't add this the last episode, but I do think Gavin Newsom's comments are even funnier knowing that he has dyslexia. No, no, no shame to anyone who's dyslexia out there, by the way. I'm just saying like making those comments and knowing that he's disliking it's just kind of like you know to a bunch of black people who's just like oh come on man does he that interesting yeah it's like he's effectively saying like I have a learning to miss disability
Starting point is 01:13:41 you all are dramatically underserved every single one of you apparently he does he said it on it he said it on a CNN interview a one-on-one interview as he walked it back has he walked back those comments that gaffer or no why would he who would make him walking back that's true I'm just like don't hold them accountable yeah you're right
Starting point is 01:14:02 who the fuck you're right Aaron like there are no watchdogs anymore there's no accountability fucking mechanism you know the NWACP get a hold of
Starting point is 01:14:11 you see the watchdog it's just got mange and you can see its ribs all the old liberal institutions ACLU NDACP they didn't fucking oh ASL you can say
Starting point is 01:14:23 whatever the fuck you what dog all right they're out They're out of my name. There's no, nobody has rights anymore. It's just everything, I've said this before,
Starting point is 01:14:32 it doesn't even feel like we're living in a country anymore. And I don't mean that in like a liberal or hokey sins. I mean it like literally, what is even binding us together? It's so fragmented and shattered. It feels like a video game.
Starting point is 01:14:45 It's just like everything is hostile to you. Everything is hostile. Everything's trying to kill you. Everything is a game. You know what I mean? Everything's a side quest. Can I get you? me the last example exactly that
Starting point is 01:14:57 just talks about this loss of meaning or loss of anything substantial I know we already talked about it but sometimes I still think about that anti-semitism commercial aired during the Super Bowl where the black kid ends like I know how you feel I know how that feels and like for me that was just like you know nothing means
Starting point is 01:15:13 anything anymore nothing matters I was reminded that nothing matters and nothing means anything I like that's what I'm kind of just astonished I've said this before but like that no politician running at a national level would run on something like an American rejuvenation
Starting point is 01:15:29 project or something. Just something. I know we've talked about like people have talked about Green New Deal and all that. Fuck all that. I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about just something that like reinstills in people
Starting point is 01:15:44 the concept of public service. Just something that basic. No one's got that anymore. Just the concept of public service and like, you know what I mean? The only jobs program is some shit. The only thing, the only thing we recognize is public service is joining us to terrorize people. Like that's the only symbol of public service. That they do have commercials for actually.
Starting point is 01:16:03 You know, if I'm like, I don't know, somebody like Andy Bashir, I know what Andy Bashir is going to run on. He's going to run on this, all this shit about, I'm, you know, I was a Democratic governor in a deep red state and I know how to bring people together and da da da da da da da da da da. We've tried that whole fucking unify the country shit. People want blood. They want to count. And it's not even, it's not even blood. They just want to count. They just won't shit to matter again.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Right. You know what I mean? They won't shit to matter. Yeah. And accountability, man. Blood and sweat are often the means by which shit matters, unfortunately. Yeah. In a lot of cases.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Like, if you're coming trying to unify the country, fuck that. There's consequences. There needs to be consequences for people that have, like, dead horrible things. This is a simple as that. Yeah, also the unifies shit. I don't know really how you run that after, I mean, I know it was a couple years ago, but after January 6th, after what we're seeing now, after we're seeing how rabid, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:58 these people are, Maga is. I don't really know how you, how do you reconnect, reintegrate those people into society. What, just the Democratic response to the state of the union, it's just the, Abigail Spanberger.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Like, go, yes, talking about like the, the successes of the CIA, the fact that people, like, touted her as an actual victory, her win is an actual victory of like, oh, we're going to have a blue wave, democracy's coming,
Starting point is 01:17:23 back. It is laughable. We are fucking pathetic. It's pathetic. I mean, our answer is a veritable who's who of CIA washouts. I mean, literally, literally organizations and part of a whole entire apparatus that was meant to crush the left and now we're celebrating their victory. And just seeing the soft power machine try to like restart itself through like cultural means. Like there's this new show on CBS called CIA or whatever, right? It's like, or trotting out various CIA officers like Abigail Spanberger and Alyssa Slotkin and Mark Kelly, NASA guy, like trying to trot them out as like the way forward from like a soft power standpoint. Seeing the empire trying to restart itself and rebirth itself that way is just, it's just, there's something about it that's so surreal.
Starting point is 01:18:15 And it's pathetic, really, because they've been outflanked. on both, they've been outflanked by the right, on on the issue of Israel and Iran and warmaking and all this, they got nothing there. There's nothing for them to actually engage with there. But they're not, but AOC is an example of how they're not going to meaningfully divert from that in any way. Maybe they'll make some, you know, gestures towards like Gaza was a genocide,
Starting point is 01:18:43 say some things like that, but they're not going to do anything to actually break with. the mainstream Democratic line on this because they can't because they're in the fucking Democratic Party dude they double
Starting point is 01:18:55 triple down quadruple down or professionalism they were like who are the people that you can relate to the most a spook and an astronaut
Starting point is 01:19:01 yeah the two most relatable positions the thing that everybody strives to be and many do achieve well an astronaut yeah you know
Starting point is 01:19:16 yeah when I was a kid yeah when I was four But I didn't think like I'm going to be an astronaut so I can become a senator, you know what I'm saying. I just there isn't the Democratic part. I saw like Ben Rhodes. Is that that guy? He was like a Obama White House dude and he's on Potsie of America now.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Yeah. Saying it like the Democrats need to, they need to get their house in order. They need to get it together because he was mad. Because I'm going to give it to him. Like he's been very critical of Biden during the genocide, been very critical. of a lot of mainstream Democrats but it's just emblematic of
Starting point is 01:19:55 this widespread refusal to see the writing on the wall your time is up it's over man like your entire careers and lives have been a waste this party is not reformable it has no future
Starting point is 01:20:10 it's fucking done we saw that the minute they allowed a genocide facilitated a genocide there's nothing else there revived the Whig Party tomorrow they'll be polling higher than these clowns. Yeah, Ben Rhodes said Democrats should be doing everything they can to force a vote
Starting point is 01:20:28 and make clear that they oppose a war with Iran that an overwhelming majority of Americans oppose. You had a Liz before and stand up clapping like a goddamn seal and she's supposed to be one of the better ones. It's not happening. It's not wake the fuck up. It's not happening. These people
Starting point is 01:20:44 are programmed to facilitate empire. I just saw that the Democrats, Democratic leadership, had, like, facilitated some, like, huge government aid package to Palantir to, like, Hakeem Jeffries and engineered that. And it's like, what's the old adage with friends like these?
Starting point is 01:21:03 There is no, I am, I just, if you could run a fucking political project or platform on the premise that there is no way to reform an empire, genuinely. I think the Democrats are the best, best example of that. They just kick into these like robot automaton positions
Starting point is 01:21:24 when the empire's interests are threatened in any way like Elizabeth Warren standing up and clapping at the city of the union or whatever like there is no way that a Democrat will meaningfully it is impossible.
Starting point is 01:21:39 So if you're wondering why the AOC hate, this is why. If she exited, if she had a public exit. By the way, I just think her fucking instincts are just bad, and I said that on Monday. I just think that it's bad instincts when you had moderates breaking with Biden at the top of him
Starting point is 01:22:00 shitting, you know, at the apex of him shitting his pants on stage, but she's stuck with him, it's just bad instincts. But if she wanted to actually break with the Democrats publicly and say, like, we're starting the fucking New American Party or some bullshit, whatever the fuck you want to call it, then I can maybe say, all right, well, maybe we can
Starting point is 01:22:18 with this and at least it's something new where at least not fucking continuing to dig the goddamn grave fucking get out there I mean you're trying to inject you're just trying to inject steroids into like roadkill man you know that's not gonna work brother I could see people saying like well
Starting point is 01:22:34 what about Jeremy Corbin's your party thing in England like that's obviously pretty dumb and weird like why try that so I guess you're right there's probably no
Starting point is 01:22:48 fucking solution here in the electoral the electoral sphere but I did want to read this I wish we had read it on Monday before we recorded before we started talking about
Starting point is 01:23:02 RFK as an individual who has some sort of weird 17th century trapper he's a 17th century trapper trapped in the body of a bad ass seven year old like with the he's got the brain of like a badass seven-year-old at the spirit of Samuel
Starting point is 01:23:24 de Champlain and the body of like you know some sort of cybernetic organism that's like you know like been left in the wreckage of like alien or something um um i i think this would i think this should be framed i really do i think this should be like held up as one of the all-time great cowardly political statements ever made. And just by virtue of its cowardice and betrayal of an entire movement, how much it reveals about what the priorities are of American life in 2026. Anyways, I'll just read it here. I will always tell the American people the truth.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Pesticides and herbicides are toxic by design engineered to kill living organisms. When we apply them across millions of acres and allow them into our food system, we put Americans at risk. Chemical manufacturers have paid tens of billions of dollars to settle cancer claims linked to their products, and many agricultural communities report elevated cancer rates and chronic disease. Unfortunately, our agricultural system depends heavily on these chemicals. The U.S. represents 4% of the world's population, yet we use roughly 25% of its pesticides. If these inputs disappeared overnight, crop yields would fall. Food prices would surge.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. You had this man going out and just speaking out and just speaking out against vaccines when one in a million people gets vaccine injured, okay? But he has no problem rightly saying that glycophosphate and all these things are like bad to get in your food system because they can cause real harm and stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:16 But that's just the cost of doing business. Like, do you see how like the weird hypocrisy there? Like, I mean, just even just saying that the cost of doing business is that some people will be harmed, it's just like kind of insane for him to say just straight. I would venture to say, by orders of magnitude, more people are harmed by glycoposphate than vaccines. By, it is not even a close margin.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Oh, not even close. But somehow, like, there's an acceptable amount of that, but we got to do away with the vaccine schedule for children. Well, yeah, because the... Imagine being like the grotesque Kennedy. Like, fucking split your guts open and let them spill on the fucking sidewalk. You're so...
Starting point is 01:25:55 Oh, my God, I hate these fucking people. There'd be a lot of worms in the... Worms in those guts, probably. He's probably got worms. It's because the premise of vaccines is not individual safety. Individual safety and health is just a fortunate byproduct of vaccines. We do not get vaccines so that you, Tom Sexton, or you, Aaron Thorpe, or me, Terrence Ray, don't get sick.
Starting point is 01:26:23 We get vaccines because it protects the population at large, the fucking concept of risk of herd immunity. That's why. But when in a neoliberal system and environment where we don't have that concept of that anymore, there is no community, it's all been destroyed. haul it out, it would make sense that you do not prioritize vaccines anymore that you see them as bad, but you see round up as good. Yeah, but the inverse is that it's okay
Starting point is 01:26:51 for mass populations to be harmed at one time. There's such clowns, dude. There's such clowns. There's something just grates at my soul about people that are, the combination of this unsurious, this cruel, and this fucking stupid.
Starting point is 01:27:09 So you could be like one of those three And nobody's perfect You know They check all three boxes all of them If these inputs disappeared overnight Crop yields would fall Food prices would surge And America would experience a massive loss of farms
Starting point is 01:27:27 Even Beyond what we are witnessing today I love that even beyond what we are witnessing today Brother what's causing the even beyond what we are witnessing today Could it be perhaps industrialized agriculture fucking under capitalism? Also, what he says overnight, I do think that's a bit of an exaggeration as if we're just going to have plagues of like,
Starting point is 01:27:45 you know, like locusts just flying into people's why it would be like a biblical type event. Days of heaven with Richard gear. Yeah. I support President Trump's executive order to bring agricultural chemical production back to the U.S. and our near total reliance on adversarial nations
Starting point is 01:28:04 and end our near total reliance on adversarial nations. His E.O. protects two pillars of national strength, our defense readiness, and our food support. Dude, I'm sorry, this is worse than talking about being energy, like, independent. Because this is like, we're going to bring all the poisons back to America.
Starting point is 01:28:20 We're going to make all the poisons. Happer, make America poisonous again. It's, like, it's fascinating. Like, he painted himself into our corner where he now has to defend this, and in defending it, he's just blatantly explicitly telling you, like, we care way more about profits
Starting point is 01:28:37 than we do help. It's so crazy. It's even by even their sort of feckless standard. It's like, I just, I know it doesn't do any good to point out hypocrisy. That's just a useless master between exercise these days. But like between him doing shit like this and like Sam Harris railing against religion for the last 20 goddamn years in the most annoying fashion. But like for some reason, he believes there's a biblical mandate that Israel gets that land. No honor.
Starting point is 01:29:07 No honor. No honor. No honor. If you want to be an Islamophore, like at least stick to the G code and call it down the line across the board. Christians, Jews, Muslims, all stupid. Like, I'm fine with that. I don't agree with that, but like, I'm fine with that. Yeah, it's at least consistent. But when you cherry pick. At least not cowardly. When hostile actors control critical inputs, they directly threaten the security of the American people. The Trump administration will secure these supply chains to eliminate that vulnerability. President Trump did not build our current system.
Starting point is 01:29:43 He inherited it for decades of Washington design moderned it. Yeah, I was born into the job. I just want to, I just want to point out too, though, that like, sure he inherited it, but we've lived under his shadow for 12 goddamn years. I mean, especially during the Biden years, I would say, because Biden is basically our Franklin Pierce of the modern age, like total, fuck it, like, deceptively, you. like deceptively evil administration,
Starting point is 01:30:09 but we'll be banished to the dustbin in history. Nobody will remember it, you know what I mean, except for the real heads. So, we've just lived in Trump for 12 goddamn years. It was a very strange, like, once again, in the way that everything's kind of like pared down and made more explicit. In hindsight, it was just very clearly a way
Starting point is 01:30:31 for Trump to have more of a mandate to do what they wanted to do because it basically gave, Maga, all the fucking ammunition and all the resources and all the ideological capacity they needed to build out this new, what you would call Trump 2.0, right? I would argue, if Trump would have beat Biden in that election, we'd been in better in the, in the, in the, talking about the 2020 election. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:57 We'd be a much better shape now. At least we would like theoretically have this shit behind us, you know what I mean? One million percent. You could say something, Aaron? No, no, I was just going to say, too, it also seemed like Biden's, it seemed like to be a refutation of anything that Bernie was trying to carry on from his 2016 campaign, you know. Yeah. That was, yeah, that was obviously, like, essentially the, the point, which is why it basically was, like, a massive assist to Trump. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:28 For decades, Washington designed modern agriculture. Policymakers wrote farm policy, directed, directed research dollars, structured subsidies, and crop insurance, and shaped commodity markets to reward monocultures and maximum yield. Does deliberate choices, locked farmers into chemical dependence, and prioritized short-term output over long-term soil, vitality, and human health. Okay, so why the fuck are you cool with Roundup now? Yeah, like all these things he's saying, well, it'll be very much.
Starting point is 01:31:58 matter if these poisons were made in America. Yeah, like, what is the concept that we can just poison and kill ourselves? Like, I guess they do. Cast yourself into the sea, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. There would be more honor in it. Yeah, he says, we are now changing course without destabilizing the food supply.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Alongside USDA Secretary Rawlins, Brooke Rawlins, we are accelerating the transition to regenerative agriculture by expanding farming says just fucking bullshit like non-profit speak. You know what I'm saying? It's just like you just making shit up. We're also driving the rapid adoption of next gen
Starting point is 01:32:36 technologies including laser guided weed control. Oh man. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? They love their lasers in this administration. They really do. They shot the laser at El Paso Airport.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yeah. At a drone. They're shooting it at weed now. What the fuck? Keep your lasers out of my weed. Yeah, that's all I got to say about it. Electrothermal and electrical systems, robotics, precision mechanical cultivation, and biological controls that replace blanket spraying with precision intervention. These solutions are not theoretical. Farmers are already putting them to work. Markets are scaling. Now the federal government will act with urgency to expand their reach, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:33:22 I've met with hundreds of farmers. I just have to say, this seems. is obviously like shilling for you know round up and these other pesticide companies but also we're going to be pushing next generation technologies that will put those guys out of business
Starting point is 01:33:38 you know what I mean? It doesn't really make any sense Robert yeah like what do you mean like yeah like AI driven tractors and shit like you know at age at HHS I am leading a coordinated effort grounded in gold standard science I am working didn't he say this week
Starting point is 01:33:56 that we should stop listening to experts that that's what is, that's what God is here, that's where we're in such a bed. Did you all see that clip? I see them say shit like that all the time. Don't listen to the experts. This is what,
Starting point is 01:34:07 this is what happens when you eat 600 grams of protein a day. That's like that, the ammonia from that, it's like, you know, like cats piss smells like fucking ammonia
Starting point is 01:34:16 why it's so pungent because they just eat meat. This is what happens when ammonia builds up in your blood. He needs to be really interrogate. He is the piss shark. You say he got meat poisoning? Dude, he's got meat, he's got meat, the meat sweats.
Starting point is 01:34:29 He's caught the vapors, but internally. The meat sweats. The Make America Healthy Again Agenda forces us to challenge long-standing assumptions about how we grow food, structure markets, and measure success in this country. Reform at this scale will test entrenched interests and it will not move in a straight line. Okay, basically, it's just, um, the, the, I don't know. What is there to really say? That paragraph is really fascinating.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Basically, he's saying that, like, we have to, it's like, as you said, Tom earlier, it's like the cost of doing business. Like, we have to allow some degree of pesticides and poison into the control because that's how we make America healthy again. It's like, it's honestly, it's like reaching levels of, like, propaganda.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Like, people use, like, you know, fucking North Korea or the Soviet Union as examples of, like, but it genuinely, is like some 1984 shit like no we have to poison your feuds ever if if i swear to god if some maga person even utters the word korea in some i'll smack that you fucking head yeah north korea if they say if they dare say venezuela instant also also again there's the there's the anti i guess corporate sort of line about this is going to what he says is going to upcent and
Starting point is 01:35:56 interests yeah i mean no everything you're doing is gonna give them a hand up bro give them a hand out you know what i love the the structure markets part it's like i guess that is true uh by ending u.s. a you guys have restructured the markets in agriculture who the fuck do you think was buying all that goddamn surplus life like we subsidize agriculture in this country like i guess if you mean structure markets um you're gonna actually you're going to actually submit U.S. agriculture industry to the free market, that'll be pretty funny. I mean,
Starting point is 01:36:33 because, like, what the fuck? Like, there's a reason, like, they have to basically subsidize it. Due to supply chain, due to supply lines, like, logistics. Also, just the fact that, like, a lot of foreign agriculture can, like, undercut American prices. You know what I'm saying? It's just, like, there's a, all this stuff, I guess maybe they think that, You know, and what's even more, I guess I didn't even think about this, but what makes it even more absurd is that they're deporting American agriculture's labor base, which is like the whole reason that it would even be competitive in the first place is because you have a racialized underclass of workers, but you guys are so racist, you need to get them out of the country. It's like what you're trying to do?
Starting point is 01:37:18 It's like this very schizophrenic, yeah. Maybe when he's starting to talk. Go ahead. Oh, go ahead. Oh, go ahead. No, I was going to say maybe when he's talking about markets, he's talking about people dying. You know, just mass die-offs. Well, that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:37:28 There'll be more food for everybody. More poisonous food. If we kill off, like, a good 100 million Americans, like, hell yeah. Like, we'll be able to, like, compete. Oh, man. Actually, though, that would have the opposite effect as well, right? Like, didn't after the black plague in Europe, like, labor prices, like, went way up? Like if you kill 100 million, because they want to get America back down to what, 70 million or some shit like that?
Starting point is 01:37:59 Like these genocidal freaks want to kill like more than half of America or deport them. Like that's going to, I like in their fascist utopia. Like that's going to make that your worker basically be able to charge like a thousand dollars an hour. Right, right. Because this whole city is wiped out except for him and like three other guys. Good job, guys. Like, you guys, like... Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Oh, man. Well, they don't even... Yeah, they don't even understand that, like, the premise of fascism was, like, you had to have some sort of corporatist compact or arrangement with the workers. You couldn't kill them all off. Like, you had to maintain a...
Starting point is 01:38:41 Some base of them and, like, come to an agreement. Otherwise, yeah. Especially if they're already a subjugated class. You know. Yeah. Otherwise, they're going to charge $1,000 an hour for their labor. Like, it's...
Starting point is 01:38:52 With President Trump's leadership, we are securing critical supply chains, confronting the health risks embedded in our current system, and deploying every available tool to build a stronger, safer, more resilient. Seems like you're creating new health risks, but okay. Get his frizzled little fucking spray tank cock out of your fucking wretched jaw, you fucking...
Starting point is 01:39:14 Oh, my God. He's the worst type of person. This is the worst type of... Loads up. just totally loathsome across the board. Like I said, it's kind of a... It's an amazing example, and even compounded by the irony of him being a Kennedy,
Starting point is 01:39:34 it's just an amazing example of the degradation of the American public official, like both in terms of, like, their own honor and virtue, but also their ideological capacity and exhaustion. Like, there's nothing left. like capitalism has even hollowed them out to the point that like they are just these grotesque remnants
Starting point is 01:39:59 and I don't know it's that's what's so frustrating about it it's like never been weaker like their hold on things has never been weaker but it's also never been more difficult for us to actually mount a challenge to it's like our preparation is is like leaves something be desired but like yeah it's so annoying yeah like I've read this Ken Klippenstein thing the other day about like you know how it's like a good sign that like prince andrew was arrested in england and like trump has had at least in some measure to stand down in minnesota and stuff
Starting point is 01:40:31 and like how like there are like some like little wins out there that show that there's some winds change it but it's like one of those things where it's like well how do we you know yeah put it together into like something like where we start to get the moment and we can just kind of lean on them again you know what i mean like it's like everybody it's like you would think, you would think, just on the face of taking the bird's eye view, you got 300 million people, a majority of which are convinced that we're, we are led by some deeply sick, twisted individuals, okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:05 And yet, and yet it's like the deck has been stacked so against us in terms of how they've atomized us and how they've like, you know, you know, all these other things we've talked about a lot. Like, how do we kind of get over that? Is it just going to, you know, we're going to have to embrace a little bit of, you know, discomfort and you know I don't know I don't want to I don't want this to end
Starting point is 01:41:27 like a little refrain of the way we just got to come together and like whoa blah blah but like it is frustrating to just like kind of see them so weak and it's like one of those dreams where like you're just swinging hard but your punches are just not landing you know what I'm yeah yeah that's a good that's a good analogy right like you're
Starting point is 01:41:43 trying to run fast and you just like you're in quick saying yeah hovering like a foot above ground or some shit yeah I don't know their ability to, I guess the bourgeoisie's ability to coalesce a large amount of technical prowess and power is, it is unmatched in human history. I mean, there's this article by Nate Baer. Apple just bought a sinister, quote unquote, pre-speech tech company implicated in genocide. Tech Apple, tech giant Apple has quietly paid nearly $2 billion for a pre-speech tech company who's
Starting point is 01:42:21 employees helped Israel commit Judicide in Gaza. Basically, what the company does is it analyzes your activities, your speech, and basically makes a determination if you will basically say things antithetical to what the government wants. Or do the pre-crime, like majority report. This is pre-crime, but like thought for thought crimes. Minority report.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I said majority report. I meant minority report. But yes, yes, Aaron. That's correct. but that's what I'm saying it's like I don't know it is kind of interesting though
Starting point is 01:42:55 like I guess the working class we don't need a pre-speech app because we know that the capitalists are all just pedophiles and rapists well I'll also just tell you that I hate you and pray on your downfall you don't need to like you don't need to invest in some fancy
Starting point is 01:43:11 technology to try to pull that out of my skull you know what I mean and I would surmise I'm not alone in that is a good point yeah not I'm thinking about it how do you use this technology in a world in which people don't trust institutions they hate all the politicians
Starting point is 01:43:31 they don't believe in anything like what would you be using it for well but it's I think what they want to use it for is they want to create an ideological naturalization of mass extermination which is really kind of bizarre and surreal because it's like look you don't need to do that you guys are already
Starting point is 01:43:52 just doing it like you fucking killed probably at this point a quarter million gossens so it's like you have just determined and proven that it doesn't really matter if we disagree with it or not you're going to do what you're going to do because you're again you're the Epstein
Starting point is 01:44:09 buddies you know you guys are petos you're rapists your genisidaires like you this is what you want you want to exterminate large populations. And I think that at this point, it's inevitable that they would want to do that. Because that's kind of just the logical endpoint of a way of organizing capitalism that says that, like, workers are increasingly less useful. They're increasingly less, they're also increasingly less manageable.
Starting point is 01:44:43 and that's why we're even getting solutions like AI. Human beings are becoming more expendable to the bourgeoisie. And more unmanageable. Yeah. So I don't know. I guess that's the fault line. That's the battle line at that point. They better hope this gambit works.
Starting point is 01:45:04 Might not matter as much for Trump because he's got one foot in the grave anyway. He's old as hell and clearly not in good hell. He'll skate for sure. Yeah. A guy that needs to watch out is like a guy like JD Vance. You still got, you're young, brother. You're the same age as me. You've got plenty of years left.
Starting point is 01:45:20 And I hate to break us to you, the whole world fucking hate you. Yeah. So I'll tell you what, you better stuff your fucking pockets and invest in a lot of security. If I were you, I would not want to be walking around the rest of my life with that stain on me. And you still got a little bit of a lot. You still got plenty of life left. We're wearing him and Usher Vans been booed when they went to the, the Winter Olympics.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Fuck her to. Fuck the whole goddamn. My man. Fuck the whole family. Yeah, you know, Andrew Shult said something
Starting point is 01:45:54 I actually agree with, which is fucking crazy. But he was just like, Cash Patel's little dumb ass like inserting himself and like the USA hockey team's gold medal win. It's like just so, such like selfish bullshit
Starting point is 01:46:06 because you know it becomes culture war then. It's just instantly goes culture war instead of being like something. the whole country can just be like, well, that's great. And like the women's too, you know, but he obviously didn't go to that locker room because why would Cash Patel be invited around any women? But it is a good point. It's like they have to just put their little fucking greasy stains on anything
Starting point is 01:46:28 that could possibly be like a cause for like common celebration. I'm reminded of when Beethoven, you know, played Ove to Joy. I forget which symphony that is. Beethoven's not something like that. somebody correct you on that but you had this like imperceptibly beautiful piece of music and like this like really touching story of he's so deaf that when he's conducting he's like a few measures behind but it's still so rapturous that like everybody in the crowd stands up and gives him like five standing ovations and usually you can only do a maximum of three and that was
Starting point is 01:47:04 reserved only for royalty so usually like the if you were doing good you got two you know but you couldn't go over there. So they lapsed that. And then, like, what do the cops do? They come down and shut down the thing because, like, oh, we can't have the Kaiser being upstage by this fucking old deaf, you know, composer. Right, right, right. It's that mentality.
Starting point is 01:47:24 It's that they have to just selfishly put their fucking greasy paws on everything. They should. Oh, anyway. Sorry. Mm-hmm. And it was funny that he was doing that, like, in the midst of they're still looking for Nancy Guthrie. There's a number of things.
Starting point is 01:47:46 I mean, there was a story that came out that said that he delayed FBI investigators by one day after Charlie Kirk was shot, like when they could have been, like, you know, tracking down leads and clues and all this. He delayed them by one day because he was, like, flying private jets around
Starting point is 01:48:04 because he likes to fly private jets around with his girlfriend or something. Like, it's just, Are they overplaying their hand? I mean, are they done? I think they're behaving like men that think they've got the game sewed up. But we forget that as cruel as they are, they're also that fucking stupid too. And Americans are stupid enough to let them off the hook.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Yeah, yeah. And honestly, settle. They'll be fine with just settling for like a meager slap on their wrist and like pretend like we can kick the can down the road for another eight years. Yeah, yeah. And then like just the judiciary. Pitiaries patted out by by like people that believe the craziest most vile stuff. So like where is the accountability? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:48:48 But I think we if there's a situation where it tilts in our favor, we have to treat the courts like they treat the courts. Like who fucking cares what some dickhead in Kalamazoo's got to say about something? Fuck you. Dude, this is from the Washington Post. Trump seeking executive power over elections is urged to declare emergency. Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating
Starting point is 01:49:13 a 17-page draft executive order that claims China intervened in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting. How many other countries can they go around? So we did Russia, China, is it going to be Iran next? Is it going to be
Starting point is 01:49:30 North Korea? Like, how many countries can they shop around for it to project blame on to? Yeah. Well, the USS Gerald Ford, the plumbing, the toilets keep overflowing. But I saw people saying, like, that was just the sci-op to make the Iranians think they were weaker than we really are. I'm sorry, no.
Starting point is 01:49:50 That ain't happening. This is not a fucking Trojan War. It's like, we are cooked. Bam. It's not going to be some red dawn shit, man. Seems like they're more regular than the average American. Can I say that? I envy them.
Starting point is 01:50:03 I wish I could destroy a toilet. There's no... I like the idea that they think that we were actually... actually smart and clever enough to like do some elaborate ruse to make their audience think our ships aren't pieces of shit when the huthies themselves proved that our ships are pieces of shit right right exactly it's so sick it's so sick and that's like such an americ dumb-ass american thing to do to like do a poop humor sob if indeed that's what it was now too only two things are going on there they didn't service the ship and it's a piece of shit
Starting point is 01:50:37 like literally and figuratively and so the plumbing is backed up or the fucking troops are about to start fracking their officers like they said out they do mass mutiny yeah it could be mutiny I don't know it's possible dog we might be seeing that soon
Starting point is 01:50:55 this is the wages of fiber maxing that latest that latest trend America hasn't seen mutiny in probably a long time dog that's like we might Mutiny might be making a big comeback.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Sailors, taking over the ship. Now there's something. That is something. I was just thinking about that too and how different it is in other countries that have gone through
Starting point is 01:51:18 like, you know, there's uprisings or revolutions and that you had like the military joined forces with the people often. Yeah. And against the police, right? But because like
Starting point is 01:51:31 we have like the concept of military families and generations of families that have become wedded through, you know, through birth, shore, but also just wedded to the mythology, the imperial mythology of this country, that I don't know, it'd be, like, what would it take, huh, say it?
Starting point is 01:51:50 I said it'd be tough, yeah. Yeah, what would it take to be like, okay, you're going to shoot at your fellow, actually they're not your fellow citizens, they're enemy combat, you're going to turn around and shoot at them, and how many of these services would be like, uh, I don't really know how I feel about that.
Starting point is 01:52:03 I think, honestly, you'd find a lot of eager, two shoot at the fellow citizens so exactly that's what I'm thinking that's what I'm thinking well it could be a situation where like Pete Hexeth's reforms could
Starting point is 01:52:15 create leadership that's so bad that you really will start seeing mutt if you're a safe put yourself in the shoes of a sailor on a goddamn ship in the Gulf of
Starting point is 01:52:29 fucking whatever and the toilets aren't working and like the whole ship smells like shit and like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got some massive sleep and eating that. That's, those are mutiny conditions, my friend. Yeah, that is true. They would just throw this motherfucker overboard.
Starting point is 01:52:44 You're right. You're right. Yeah, they'd get on some heathos shit and throw old hexaf right there in the fucking. Some heave-ho shit. Or we need to like get him out there and like really press on them to put somebody like who's somebody that's just nobody likes? Like Oz, Dr. Oz, something like that? Man Matt Oz couldn't even beat a stroke riddled fucking John
Starting point is 01:53:05 Federman, who himself already, not very likable, you know. So maybe you're like, I bet you won't put Oz in charge of the armed forces Trump? Bet you wouldn't do that. They'd fucking give Oz a big shitty, swirley
Starting point is 01:53:23 day one and drown his ass in it. Make him walk the plank? Walk the plank. That'd be so sick. That would be tell you. We should bring that back. Okay. Sorry, this is turned into a rant on all of our parts, so I apologize. But I'm just very pessimistic this week, all right?
Starting point is 01:53:47 You caught me on a week in which I am not even remotely optimistic about a single goddamn thing. If they had caught me yesterday, I'd have been very hopeful. Today, I'm just mad. I'm fistic. I'm mad today. You are fistic. I'm working out to day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Yeah. I'm pretty pessimistic, brother. Doesn't seem like there's much to look forward to. I mean, shit, I was looking forward to the fucking, like I was mentioning, the Patreon, the moon launch. The flyby, Artemis, too, but they don't even know. It keeps getting rolled back and rolled back. We can't even go to the goddamn moon anymore, man. Oh, yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:54:25 That's how bad it is. It seems like it'd be pretty easy. You just point at it and shit. Hey, go there. You did it like 70-something years? ago for some reason can't do it now. Man. By the way, something I forgot to mention was they gave a guy
Starting point is 01:54:43 who participated in the Maduro raid a Medal of Honor. And I don't know if you've seen the pictures of this guy, but he looks like he's not having a good time. Yeah. People were saying that's the, Mike Pritzner who I follow on Twitter. It was saying
Starting point is 01:55:00 like it's the quickest he's ever seen a Medal of Honor award. to a troop. Like that was just, that happened just like three weeks ago. It's crazy. That is crazy. It's like,
Starting point is 01:55:10 you know what's crazy about it's like, imagine getting, like, imagine, uh, getting a presidential medal of honor for something like you deeply regretted. But that was like the highlight of your life
Starting point is 01:55:20 and all anybody ever talks about you're like, actually I didn't agree. I shouldn't have done them. Isn't that? What we did was pretty pathetic. We just kidnapped the guy from his bed. Born on, born on the Fourth of July.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Oh, didn't he get? Similar plot. That's a good one. similar plan. Yo, this is actually random man. I know we're about to close out, but I was thinking about how lucky Trump was that a few different
Starting point is 01:55:42 things fell within like his first term. You got the Olympics, the 250th anniversary of this country. You would have had the moon thing. You got the World Cup. He just like landed on all of these things that you know eventually will mean
Starting point is 01:56:00 nothing really. I guess they always mind. Tom, you brought up Andrew Schultz a second ago. He said Trump is doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for. I want him to stop the wars. He's funding them. I want him to shrink spending. He's increasing it. I'm genuinely like I'm curious. What did they
Starting point is 01:56:16 vote for him to do? Is he a grown man? Is he a grown man? He's a grown man. That's embarrassing, dude. I'm genuinely curious. Like, you're invited onto her show. I would like to ask you what did you vote for him to do? You said in the wars, okay. shrink spending okay like what why did i mean i guess more importantly did you vote for him the first
Starting point is 01:56:38 time and did he do any of those things that you wanted him just do i guess i guess i'm just like my brain can't accept it or comprehend it i'm just uh like what what in this guy what in the brochure made you think he was going to do those things you have right right a game show host billionaire who was previously selling stakes and did a fake university scheme before he got in office. And it continues to do things like that if you look at his fucking janky-ass shoes
Starting point is 01:57:09 and his watches and his phones and everything. Like he's basically doing all the same shit he was doing before office. But what in that makeup? Like, could you look at me with a straight face and you think, oh yeah, that's the guy that's actually going to, like, wrap the shit? You know what I think it is, bro?
Starting point is 01:57:26 I've said this before, but I think people treat the office of the presidency with so much like I mean they lionize it you know so it doesn't matter what the man's previous inclinations are it doesn't matter like you know what he's done before that what he said as soon as he gets
Starting point is 01:57:40 into the White House he's suddenly supposed to be that person that you expect him to be and it's like no Trump just if the White House if that office wasn't already degraded and corrupted you know already from inception well that's one thing but I would guess that there's never been a man occupy the office
Starting point is 01:57:57 that used to sell a doll that when you pulled the string, it said 10 of his often said phrases. I just don't get it. Anyway, whatever. Yeah, it'd be like Jimmy Carter getting into office and still hawking his peanuts. Not even. Not even. That would be like wholesome back in person.
Starting point is 01:58:15 That would be wholesome. Still got it back Jimmy's peanuts. Still got to buy Jimmy. I would accept that level of corruption. It's like if you're the president cool, you get like the only peanuts you can buy come from your farm. You know what I mean? Like your collective bargaining product placement every single time you see.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Like Trump, you're allowed one corruption. If you want to sell these Trump stakes, then fine. That's what the stakes. It's collective bargains. Like that's the only stakes you can buy in America is your Trump stakes. Anyway, we've talked too much. We did talk too much. Okay, just to bring this full circle back to the very beginning.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Did you not, did y'all know they cut the free Palestine chance from the BAFTA feed on BBC, but they chose... They couldn't cut the word, nigger, but they kept... Come on, man. Just to bring it full circle. Bringing it full circle. That's where...
Starting point is 01:59:15 You know, America might be fucked, but I'm not to say this, because I have family in the UK. My family could have moved to the UK. I could have been British right now. But it was just some, I don't know, it's just some lovecrafty and cesspool of racism and imperialism, you know. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm very pessimistic about this goddamn.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Yes, it's cooked, man. Well, anyways. Nevertheless. We'll be back next to me. All right. Thanks for listening. Please go check us out on Patreon. We'll be back there on Monday with more doom.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Unless I'm feeling better. Well, you'll have the new internet. Something. things will be looking up. That's true. That will make your brother feel better. That's true. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Well, we'll see you on next time.

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