Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 435: Pandæmonium

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

All the demons both great (Netanyahu, Trump) and small (Bret Stephens, Jake Paul, Live Nation Guys) are here. Support us here ($5 per month gets you an extra episode every week): patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Corporation known as Live Nation Entertainment wants you to know they think very highly of you, Aaron. Me personally, okay. Yeah, you personally. A corporation is speaking to me. I feel honored. The two Live Nation entertainment executives bragged about the high fees the company charges fans that it's been used,

joking in internal messages that the company is, quote, robbing them blind and that quote these people are so stupid that i almost feel bad taking advantage of them okay can i just say bad it's the year 2026 you no longer have the security and the anonymity of group chats you know what i'm saying or anything like emails or anything like that i mean apparently those can be subpoenaed to court group chats and stuff exactly these are things that have to be discussed in smoky back rooms you know dude i love this quote i love this quote robbing them blind baby that's how we do it

did he do dollar side emoji the emoji with the tongue hanging out the green tug with the dollar side eyes I just love that literally they're sitting in a champagne bathtub just burning dollar bills while OJ's for the love of money plays over the loudspeaker they do some duck m'screw shit where they're diving

into a sea of gold coins bro yeah all because I had to have purchased the John Malen Camp Ultimate Fan experience which entitles me to parking three miles from the venue instead of six and a commemorative cup at the concession stand. Net total, $700.

Let me ask you guys a question because you guys are more familiar with the music scene or at least knowledgeable about the industry to some degree. But is live nation... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think we talked about this before on the show.

Does Live Nation have a monopoly on, like, tickets? Live Nation is. like, okay, so we've talked about this in America, like how we don't have transportation. We've talked about this on the show about how America. We've talked about this in America on our show

that also takes place in America. We've talked about many things on this show. You know, we don't have transportation. We have like airline airlines are essentially like credit card schemes, masquerading as transport. There's like five companies that make caskets apparently.

Like if you're talking about monopolies? Well, Live Nation's a real estate scheme masquerading as a ticket brokerage. So basically what, you know, if you talk to any of your friends that are toured in bands or whatever or have any proximity to music business, they've talked about how Live Nation went around over the last several years and bought up all these venues. And now, not only do they screw over bands in terms of like giving them shitty deals on like, you know, merch splits, which means.

means like you go you have a band the aranthorpe bluegrass experience you go play it is okay a live nation venue and you have t-shirts and records and pins or whatever you're selling at the merch stand and just by virtue of the fact that i have owned the roof that's over the head where you're performing that night right i get to come up to you afterward essentially and say hey i need 40% of your revenues from all that stuff you sold that i didn't have a fucking hand in creating or, you know, whatever. It's just a, it's just, uh, it's just, uh, just, it's just, it's just, it's just interesting that they went from like, I mean,

correct me if I'm wrong. Initially being sort of the middleman between like the audience, you know, and the musicians. And now it's gone. They actually own the spaces. Exactly. And then press everybody from the bands that play there to the customers for, in fees, fees.

Was the Travis Scott Astro World shit? Was that facilitated? by Live Nation? Live Nation, yeah. Jay Z, famously Rock Nation, was a partnership with Live Nation. Yeah. Well, people are... But most ill things in America, you can trace it back to Jay Z in like seven steps or less.

Well, I mean, I just went to say, too, I mean, I don't want to ramble on about it, but I know that they were selling more tickets than they had space for the venue that Astroletic place at that Travis Scott concert, and people ended up dying, you know? It was like a crush, you know, people got... When people were saying that was a satanic... worship like ritual they weren't strictly speaking wrong and I think this email

just kind of fortifies that notion you know but this motherfucker is out here I think it's one of the same motherfuckers in this email was saying like no people want to pay courtside seats to see the most boring basketball ever played between the New York Knicks and the Washington Wizards

for $8,000 a ticket because it's a badge of honor to sit courtside at Madison Square Garden it's a status symbol more than anything right Right. Like America's economy is essentially, I'm sorry. I could ramble about this for two hours, but it's live nation shit sits at the nexus of like clout chasing, you know, everything that I hate about like where we're at in society. It's like, it's just splits the Venn diagram right open, you know. Well, you asked if it was... Back to you, back to you, Terse. You asked if it was a monopoly, I'm pretty sure these. emails or messages came out as a result of DOJ's investigation into,

it's like an antitrust investigation into Live Nation. They were going to break it up, but they just wound up settling, like, out of court. So they get to keep ticket net master, basically. Does Live Nation not have any hitters that could, like, for Trump? You know what I mean? Well, they did, but... They did, but he killed himself in Westchester Prison a couple years ago.

Or maybe he didn't kill himself. Hard to say. But Jeffrey Epstein was part of all that, too. He was, had like a little syndicate that they would buy up all these tickets because they had some sort of inside track on them, like Grateful Dad shows, most notably. And then resell them on Live Nation vis-a-vis ticket master's crazy-ass, like, resell platform. Where basically, like, me and you and Terrence could buy a bunch of tickets and then just go, jack up the price exponentially and go resell them on there.

I would never do that. No, I wouldn't either. I would offer it below face value. Tickets for the people, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we could barter, we could trade them barter. I would never, you know. I would never facilitate anybody going to a grateful debt concert.

Yeah, you're notably not at that day. You're actively like, let me buy your tickets so I could burn them. I would buy all the tickets and burn them. Yeah, no one's going to a dead concert. And you would just, you would be the only one to show up to the, concert you just play a little violin over them with the trash can birding behind you just the craziest look in your eyes

man but yeah so like all that you know all that is well it's good to know that uh you know these guys are dabbing on it's a time when people can barely afford food well I just love their messages that's how we do it baby

that's how we do it we mark it up 80,000 percent Did they go into ebotics at all? Into A-A-A-A-A-V-E? I don't think you could see epit. Brother, if we had a long enough transcript, I'm sure we'd find something like it. Honestly, they're not entirely wrong. We are stupid as fuck for paying these goddamn prices

for letting these people keep their heads. It is kind of on us a little bit. Brother, brother. It is, it really is the inherent vice quote. What does the guy say, Terrence? It's like, you lost my respect the day that the first day you all paid any rent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, especially when it's just again, as I think I was saying on the Patreon, the inshittification of everything, you know what I mean?

I mean, whether it's like, you know, live entertainment or movie tickets or products like clothes and footwear, you know. It's all, uh, all these little, all these little treats are getting worse and worse than quality and more expensive and we're still buying this stuff. So I'll go ahead and tell you. We got to have, we got to have numbers because these guys, I'm going to tell you something right now. I have a relatively clean record other than some. traffic tickets and some, you know, back taxes I need to pay. But I have a relatively clean criminal record. If we just could dial the clock back to pre-drown, pre-militarized police era,

I'm talking like, you know, somewhere before the Rodney King rides. Okay, Wade, are you talking about Wade? I would absolutely turn one of these guys into pace just for sport. I would. I would. I would, like, you know, I can handle my first assault charge. You know what I mean? Like, I can weather that.

But now they'd just fucking kill your ass or something. Or they'd have some sort of like little drone shoot a laser through your head or something if you broke into their home. Exactly. Probably have a moat around their house. A crocodile's in it. Well, there's, um... On that note, I don't know if you'll saw...

Cash Patel confirms UFC fighters will train FBI agents this week, calling it a historic opportunity. I'm thrilled to announce. You about to see motherfuckers... You about to see motherfuckers... Get a roundhouse kicked or some shit like that? I'm thrilled to announce this historic seminar between the FBI and the UFC at Quantico. This is a tremendous opportunity for our FBI agents to learn and train with some of the greatest athletes on Earth,

helping the world's premier law and firstman agency be even better prepared to protect the American people. The training will provide insight into... To protect the two guys from Live Nation, basically. The training will provide inside into UFC fighters training methods as well as fighting techniques and tactics. All right, so let me ask you a question. We gotta have all of Quantico sitting in a fucking steam room for longer than safe hours to make weight. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather, I mean, instead of law enforcement being trained by like, you know, MFA fighters or MMA fighters, so I said MFA fighters.

Not very much, not fighters at all very much. But MMA fighters and the IDF. MFA fighters. Yes, an MFA. MFAs, yeah. I got an MFA and kicking a hand. It's like Thompson all the Patriot. know, the pen is mightier than the sword of deed.

But instead of getting your ass-be... I'll give Islamaqa and ass-bashing, yeah. I'm just asking, instead of getting your ass-be by somebody was trained by the IDF or the M-MA and M-A fighter, what fighting technique would you rather get put down or get put down with by...

What's the one, is it a keto, the one that you use your opponent's momentum against them? Where it's just a bunch of tripping and falling? You know, I'd rather that. Well, the two... Two modern modalities are Brazilian Jiu-Situ, which is just Jiu-Zitsu with better PR, and Combat Samba, which is what they use,

all the Dagestani guys use, but a lot of the concepts overlap. Wait, so you're telling me Krav Maga is not up there in, like, martial arts, you know, Pantheon? I'm going to go ahead and tell you something right now. I would sincerely take the best of the best of the best of the best. best 12-year-old Jiu-Jitsu wonder kind in existence against the toughest IDF guy. And if we're talking just like Kroff McGa versus Jiu-Jitsu, I would.

I would. If you give me like a 14-year-old purple belt in Jiu-Soo, and I swear to you, I'm taking that kid over a Krav Mugah practitioner. I just like, the highest order. What is the, I really want to see how this plays out. It's like, you know how when you're in elementary school and they bring in, like, firefighters for you to, like, look at the cool fire hoses and look at their equipment? Is that what they're going to do with the FBI and UFC? They're going to bring, like, UFC fighters in and FBI guys are going to, like, walk by and squeeze their muscles like, ooh. They're going to point to a blood stain of the rig floor or something like that. Like, what are they, like, what is it going to look like? I mean, ostensibly, he's bringing in Dana White is what he says. I love California. Ash Patel's quote about Dana White,

Dana White has changed the game in the mixed martial arts industry, and we're extremely honored to be partnered with him. Yeah, by fucking stealing off of all these guys. Can you imagine? Here's what Dana White does. Dana White's like, you know, a millionaire many times over. That is if he can keep from, you know, racking up massive debt at all casinos in Vegas.

It's degenerate gambling. Now, can you imagine you train the most physically demanding thing you can do to go get your brains fucking knocked out. You know what I mean? In this octagon for, you know, thousands of baying chuds, myself included in that. Okay?

And Dana's like, good job, man. Here's $6,000 for six months of the most rigorous training if you get ever muster up. You know what I mean? Dude, this mother, if there was ever motherfucker in danger

of losing his head, it's Dana Wye. I'm sorry. As soon as, as soon as like UFC fighters, uh, or get some sort of class consciousness. And mind you, these are like just one-to-one

some of the baddest dudes on the planet, too. I don't like his odds. It's probably not going to happen because you get a lot of brain injury. And then again, class consciousness, I guess, is kind of a form of brain injury. It is.

It is, indeed. Frankly speaking. What's the fighting form, the Brazilian fighting form where they're kind of dancing sort of. What's that one called? You might be thinking of like those birds in the Amazon

that do those mating dances. The birds of paradise? Where they spread their two-k? If that ever translated to the ring, I can see what your point. If they're going to do like a UFC, you know, MMA fighting, why not another form of martial arts, you know?

What if they're all learned karate and they're all kicking their asses with, you know, yeah, what happened to good old-fashioned karate? Yeah, like whatever. An FBI agent with karate just like fly to crash into a window

doing a flying kick. Yeah. We need Steven Seagal to trade the FBI is what we probably need to. Oh my God. Well, you know, this is in the future perhaps it'll be

just like anything else, something you can order on demand. Like intelligence, itself. According to Open AI CEO Sam Altman, we see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy

it from us on a meter. So hold up. So the poor people are going to be stupid not because of lack of education just because I mean I guess like now they just cannot afford it. Yeah. For anyone. You order it up. You order it up at home. You have to buy it. Like my intelligence

bill this month was $700. What do you think the highest price? Like, high as priced, I guess, like, skill would be in the future. Like, reading, perhaps? Like, you'd have to pay, like, what would be read, you know, to be able to read a book? 3,000 credit units, whatever money will be in, like, fucking 40, 50 years. 3,000, it'll be shekels, I guess, because Israel will have taken over you. It seems like the shekel is not really.

doesn't have a long future ahead of it. I think just judging from what I've seen, how I've seen America react to this war, just how blasé they are about it and like, just don't really give a fuck. I genuinely think that that can only mean one thing, which is that when this war eventually fails, Israel will just, we've talked about it before,

but Israel would just open up a covert, or I'm sorry, an overt, an open theater, of operations on American soil. Just start dropping bombs to Chicago, New York City. They got all those bombs. Fuck it. This is like,

this is the dream of Lady G. Lindsay Graham, though. That's apparently when he's buying sex from, you know, gay sex workers. He wants to be called Lady G. But yeah, that's his dream. Is that what they said?

No. He heard that in political. Yeah, the rumor is, yeah, that he likes to be called Lady G by his, you know, people who solicit sex, bro. Like, why he's getting turned out, he likes to be called Lady G. Yeah, and apparently everybody that's participated says there's like a particular

constellation of moles around his asshole. Ew. Which is information, I think, if it were anybody else, it'd be poor form to displace. What if his fetish was like... Lindsay Graham, I don't give a flying fuck. What is his fetish was like some twink going down on him and connecting the dots? It's like, you know. Like a constellation.

Like a constellation. Oh, man. I'm going to have to quickly get us off the topic of Lindsay Graham's asshole moles. Lindsay Graham's... I cannot think of things of anything I would rather think about less than fucking Lindsey Graham's asshole. Now, Sam Altman says you'll be able to get intelligence on the meter at home. You know, this is like...

We're already getting into the meat of today's episode probably, but like private credit, the private credit markets are kind of imploding right now. And there's a lot of speculation that the reason why is probably because a lot of these portfolios are not insulated from AI. And AI has taken a beating over the last few months. And I can't imagine why. Yeah. All your biggest boosters are the eight most annoying guys that ever live. but bar none.

Uh-huh. Like not one guy in there in the whole AI bunch. You're like, well, you know, I don't like AI, but like, he seems like, okay. They don't, you're right. They don't have one. They're so belligerently annoying. Like, fucking just like picking, like, just like gnats at you, you know? You're right.

You would think that they would, like, try to find at least just one nice guy, like, to, like a Jimmy Carter type guy, just like a nice, right, right. Like, if I'm starting an AI guy. company. I'm saying Pierce Brosnan, come be the face of this for me. You know, handsome. Everybody kind of likes him. You know what I mean?

You pick British, Matthew McConae, basically. He's Irish, first of all. Oh, Irish, by, oh, yeah, don't make that mistake. Whoa. But. You know what I think it is, too? I think it is that no one likes something being pushed at them

that they have no interest in at all. And this is, you know, the whole AI thing is just being, has been pushed at people and no one can see any, at least from the consumer end, can't see any positive benefits to it, you know? Yeah. It's annoying, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

People are just kind of fatigue around it. But that's why they're going to make it a utility that you have to pay for. Because, like, at that point, they'll make society so, they'll just level everything in society, all its institutions and expectations and, you know, pedigrees of learning and whatnot. That, like, will just be so stupid. you'll have no choice but to order premium intelligence.

Premium intelligence how to boil water, how to cook pasta. It's going to be so bad because our brains are going to be so calcified that we won't be able to do basic skills, but basically going to devolve into like chromagnons. And they're going to use this technology

or this subscription model or whatever so that people can employ it for basic tasks. You know what I mean? Like how to do laundry or some shit like that? Yeah, I've got to pay this fucking outfit $20 a month to like, yeah, to know how to fucking vacuum and mop or whatever. I feel like that movie, idiocracy, got kind of canceled in the woke 2010s, but them thinking that, like, in that movie that, like, the way you grow crops is spraying

gatorade all over everything. It's pretty spot on. Like, it's got electrolytes. Dude, I'm telling you already, you know what? Hey, how can I put this without, like, throw a shade at my sister? But okay, my sister asked me something that, like, I was just like, you can look it up, right? She asked about a subscription plan for Sling TV because I got my mom internet cable, right? We cut off the cord where we have internet cable, right?

And my sister's asking me, what are the channels? And I'm like, dude, there's like 40 channels on each plan. Like, I can't list them all to you. Like, I have no idea. Just Google it. And she said, okay, I'm going to ask chat in GPT. And I was just like, dude, you just killed like a pod of dolphins. Why wouldn't you just Google the shit?

But that's like, I can see this being a similar thing where no one knows how to read anymore. No one knows how to just do a basic, I don't even know what Google will become at that point where, you know, you could essentially just upload the data, you know. Google uses its own AI. I mean, like when you search for something on Google, it's also using AI. It's like, it's all just become like, it's going to become like your own, like whatever app is that you identify with more. You know what I mean? Whatever ecosystem that you're in. Right.

Like it's how people, some people prefer Facebook to Instagram to Twitter. Some people will be like, oh, I want Chad GPT or I want Claude or I want whatever. Or Gemini or whatever Google is doing. Am I crazy in thinking, though, that like AI essentially as it's currently constituted is just like Google with a personality, like a contrived personality. Like it doesn't feel like to me like put anything in chat GPT produces anything proprietary that Google wouldn't or whatever, you know? Right, right.

Like, it'll take you exactly, like, the difference is, like, Google would take you to a website to give you that information, whereas Chat and GPT would, like, just give it to you personally, like you're talking to something. Right, it'll just read it out to you, exactly, yeah. Does it just scratch a loneliness itch that Google doesn't? It just feels like there's not, like, like, there's only, like, three feet of difference between those two experiences, you know?

Right, right, right. I think part of it is people have this this is a result of like true crime and conspiracy content but people have this desire to connect the dots speaking of about Lindsay Graham's asshole like they have a desire to connect the dots I'm sorry I ever brought that up and um chat GPT helps them do that

like if you've ever used it like you know a family member was over here over the past week and was like using it just showing me how it worked and it really does connect these dots for you that's absurd and by the end the chat gbt was suggesting he start a cult so so what you're saying is you don't have to think for yourself anymore no exactly yeah it's exactly well not only that but it will apparently uh validate your most criminal thoughts well there was this story i think i saw this this morning that chat gpt and sam malton are getting sued because it helped

uh this like 12 year old girl like playing a school shooting where she like ended up killing her parents and herself too. Uh-huh. And it, like, helped her plot it out. Yeah, yeah. Chad GPT would be very good at them. It would be like, first, what first you need to do is you're going to need to kill your parents. You got to kill the people that are going to tell people that you're going to kill the

people that are going to tell. So first off, you get the sense that this is how they plan the war in Iran. You're God, by the way. Yeah. Dude, you get the sense this is how they plan the war in Iran? They literally ask Chad GPT, like, if you were to go to war with them, you're going to war with the Ronley, how would you do it? And because also this information is biased, like chat GPT as well, they're just not aware

of the capabilities of Iran's military capability. So it is, again, one-sided and just confirming what you wouldn't believe in. Like, oh, just go there and Bob, it'll be over in a week. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you all see the story. There was like an NFL player that murdered his girlfriend. I did see it.

And yeah, and he put it, yeah. I shouldn't be laughing. I mean, I'm laughing because of how he got caught. It's like, dude. Yeah, he put it in chat GPT had to basically get rid of her body or whatever. No, no. What he put in the chat GPT was my girl,

I think if I remember correctly, it was like my girl's doing that thing she always does again. And then we had a thing and now she's not breathing. And what do I do with it? Yo, we went from the artistry of Jack the Ripper, you know, to like, you know,

not the artistry. I'm kidding here. But you know what I'm saying. We went from God. writing. I mean, it's just, I mean, come on, man. You can't even be a criminal anymore, man? No. Without chat GPT, brother.

No, no, no, no. There's, uh, it's just, no. I guess the more concerning trend is, you know, uh, we have people playing a game that we know gives them irreversible brain disease that makes them act out in aggressive, hyper-aggressive

ways. And we still do that. That's just, that's just, Well, so just so we don't keep going down this extremely dark path, I wanted to throw a little bit lighter fairy in here for you. I liked this story from Reuters. Trump says white South Africans are persecuted,

some are returning to a better life. Andrew Veich left South Africa after being held up at gunpoint in his car, but now he feels there are greater threats in the United States. he said, citing mass shootings in public places, as well as violence by ice. People are being shot in broad daylight. American citizens are being shot and killed, said the 53-year-old. Well, I think it's the South Africa, you feel right at home, wouldn't you? Well, it's like, okay, so South Africa, like Trump said that South Africa, you know,

kill the boar. Remember, like, that white people are being targeted, and so they imported all these white South Africa. Oh, yeah, the white genocide era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now they've got here, they're like, I don't want to live in this shudhole. There's a mass shooting every week. Ice agents, like, beat people up in the streets.

The cost of living is too high. Like, they cited that as another reason, too. Like, they want to go back to South Africa. We've just figured out how to just, like, we've blown the biggest lead in history. Dude, think about that. Just think about that. I think I'm good. I'm going to go back to it.

I think I'm going to go back to a place that just figured out apartheid 20 years ago. I mean, especially like being appalled, which anyone should be appalled at, you know, ICE terrorizing communities and killing people, you know. But I don't know, that's just, that's just very funny to me, you know. Why are we, why are we so housebroken, do you think? Like, why, like, you know, that when somebody says the American people will never go for this, I always chuckle now. Because it's like, there is no end to what we'll put up with, you know?

Well, part of that is warranted because we do have roving death squads in the streets now. You know what I mean? It makes it a deterrent. a deterrent to like, you know, dragging people out of their home, for example, or whatever you would normally do in yesteryear to get justice. Also, even if people were upset, I'm not saying it's not possible, but there does not exist as of this moment, a political vehicle for them to channel that outrage, you know, and that sort of resistance, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I mean, it's, to me, a data point that I always think about is how, like, a lot of these ice agents are people of color and a lot of these alt-right people are like in that group chat that got leaked from those I think they were like Florida like con congressional aids or something Florida young GOP members and they were all saying the most racist shit imaginable like um did you all hear about this story no yeah it was like it was it was just another one of these group chats that got between like young Florida Republicans or something. And they're just saying the most racist should imaginable, you know,

calling black people the N-word using all these like insane jokes and slurs. Is this like all the fat white kids all look like dumplings? They're not white. They're not white. That's the thing. Like they're not white. I remember when there was that thing. So this is a different thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like to me, that's a good example of how we've just completely given up in this country on politics as a vehicle for achieving like social equality or political equality, right?

It's like previously, it's kind of like if you can't beat them join them mentality. It's like we're not going to be able to achieve any of this so fuck it. Let's just all become white supremacist. It's just a measure of how like completely cynical and like I said like

sort of nihilistic American politics. has become like no one even it's not even a possibility that that like we could improve our lot or that various constituencies or group could be ever achieve equality or parity or anything well i mean like you know to just kind of underscore your point i mean you know if you have i'm not saying that one group of people should fall in line with one party because of but i mean you're talking about, you know, a young black man falling out of not even love, but just kind of just being disappointed and turning away from the Democratic Party, like the party that, you know, led through that pioneered, not pioneered, but that kind of facilitated on the political side,

the civil rights movement, you know what I mean? And this party that's always been seen to be friendly towards like minorities and like how bereft of any hope that anything could be transformed or changed. How much like of that do you have to have or lack of that? do you have to have or lack of that do you have to have, you know, possess, you know? Yeah. To just be like, yeah, fuck the Democrats. Which, to be fair, true, yes, indeed, you know.

But if you think the Republicans are going to do any better on any of these issues, like, absolutely fucking up. It's an overcorrection like Kanye announcing he's going to play in Tel Aviv. That's a good example, actually, yeah. You know? That's like, yeah, you can stop short of, well, you got to hand it to him. We might as well join them. Yeah.

Well, speaking to Tel Aviv, let's pivot. That's a good segue way to. Let's pivot. Is Tarantino still in a bunker clutching his curls? You know, I don't know. There is, on the last episode, on the Patreon episode, we speculated that Ben Gavir had gotten fucking roasted.

But I think maybe not. I think maybe he did get in a car accident, but he's fine. The head of Mossad, though, that guy got barbecue. That guy on the other hand. Smotrich, you know, Smotrich, his son got smoked in Lebanon.

Smotrich's son smoked in Lebanon. Smotrich's son smoked in Lebanon. It's like a New York Pose ad lot. His death too was like, kind of like, was it Prometheus that got his liver pecked at, by a bird gradually.

It seems like Smoltrits' son got pierced in the liver by a hesbola shrapnel. So in a kind of a, you know. It's Promethean. It's a Promethean demise. So, well, I guess everybody can't fit in the bookers then? Because you think these people

would be in the safest place as possible, right? Oh, no, he was in the, not only was he not in the same as place possible, he was in Lebanon. He was invading, because Israel's trying to invade Lebanon now and they just said last night Israel Katz, their fucking defense minister or whatever, said that if the Lebanese government doesn't get Hezbo under control, they will

take Lebanon. Like, they're going to take the land and make it a part of Israel. You can't be doing some zone of interest shit, you know, when Israel started this regional war, you know, the United States. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine that cat, like the Israelis always have weird bargaining chips. We're encroaching upon you, embalming. your cities, but if you don't get your people under control, we're going to take them. Yeah. It's like, what do you talk? Like, what?

That's, I mean, it's basically, doesn't even make any sense. That's what they tell America. Like, if you don't get these protesters under control, you've got to get anti-Semitism under control. I saw, like, Trump's, Trump has an anti-Semitism czar named Rabbi Yehuda Kaplan. He said, we have 500 groups to combat anti-Semitism. We're spending the most money. in history to combat anti-Semitism, and yet anti-Semitism is at the highest levels

ever since 1933. How do you measure that exactly? Well, and then at the end, he said, countries that don't do anything about anti-Semitism have not ended well. It's like kind of a threat to the United States and the West of general.

I'm telling you, bro, they're going to nuke us all. It seems like Israel is also that sentiment is also kind of a, Israel speaking out loud, you know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think that's absolutely. Meanwhile, you got this Queen Graham over here saying,

Israel, let's move all of our operations to Israel. Something they're saying, brother. Yeah, let me ask y'all a question, because I'm not knowledgeable about the history, but like the dissolution of South Africa was, I'm sure it was an internal process, right? I mean, I'm sure there were international pressures, but I just can't imagine something like that happening in Israel, you know. Like, I'm just thinking about how that would even happen and why the only solution would be for them to just launch an all-out war, you know, against everyone, you know.

All it would take to end it is to take Dali Parton to Tel Aviv. That's true. That's what straightened out real quick. That is true. Why didn't she negotiate? They sent Whitkoff and Jared Kushner to negotiate with the Iraq. They should have sent Dolly. Can you imagine the Iranians sitting down at a table with Jared Kushner?

Why would you do that? Why would you put this frail wraith in arms way? Oh, my God. Like a flag jacket? What was your question again, Aaron? I don't know. I'm just thinking of like I just can't. I guess I'm just sort of, I guess I'm just sort of cosigning what you're saying.

I just can't imagine any other way this ends without Israel launching some grand offensive or something. I mean, I know it sounds ridiculous maybe. I get too. Iran or yes? Oh, you should. Anyone. Anyone.

Anyone. Anyone. Okay. They're going to try to make it everybody's problem. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You know. Yeah.

Well, okay. I'm glad you asked that. Maybe that would be a good way. to talk about the things I wanted to really talk about like we're in week three of this war. Trump, I heard Trump on the radio this week

saying, I knew gas prices would go up by the way. I knew that that would happen, but I did that anyways because, you know, American people it's a price we're willing to pay. It's like speak for yourself. Literally the price you're willing to pay. Speak for yourself

fatly. Not fatly. Yeah. Trump said I knew gas prices would go up. There's a big story in the New York Times about how Trump and his advisors miscalculated Iran's response to the war. I, once again, I kind of do get the impression they just typed it into chat GPT. That's actually, that's what I've landed on now. They typed it into chat, GBT, like, oh, how do you invade Iran?

No, it actually does feel like that with a war and more than I think about it, because again, it just reaffirmed. their bias that this was going to be quick and easy, you know. They thought it was going to be quick and easy. And the Iranians have showed a steely resolve. Unlike anything, like, I think that we have seen in modern history, genuinely, like, you know, we talk about, like, I don't know why, but I just had this thought, like, comparing the Iranians to, like, Democrats. And how, like, the Iranians, like, they know what they want. They know how to get it. They drive a hard bargain.

And it's just like, you know, they're willing to basically endure some pain in order to get it. And if you want to put that on the flip side where Trump is saying that Americans are willing to endure pain, right, for whatever amorphous outcome this is, I'm going to tell you what, brother, they're not. We are the weakest, most weak-willed, you know what I'm saying? Like, lily-livered people in the world, you know? Maybe except the Brits, perhaps. Yeah, dude. We'll let two finance bros just like fucking nickel and diamonds to death just to go see Ariano Grande.

Like, we're not putting up much of a fight on any front. Well, what was that thing he said about how, I'm trying to find it now, about how oil tinker crews needed to, quote, show some guts and sell through the straight of Hormuz. Well, didn't they try that this morning and it didn't end up so well for him? No, it did not. I don't think any of those men would end up a flaming corpse diving into a body of water, you know, to douse themselves, yeah.

It's just a sight, like, dude, what's transpired there and just, you know, what, we've been there now, 10 days, 14 days, whatever it's been. Like, that would be such a scandal in a different time, just like this first little offensive. Like, it would be so damning. But it's just a sign that nothing matters that much anymore and that people have just accepted, like, bullshit from wall to wall that like Trump can on a whim just send people on a suicide mission and then call you like

you know threatened to bring the draft to bring more people in there you know well I don't know it's just so fucking let's let's look at the last week okay maybe that would be a better way to go about this like let's look at like what has happened in the last week they

came out on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday multiple times Trump went back and forth. A more dedicated Saviour producer would be able to maybe do a mashup of the number of times Trump said the war is over, our goals are nearly complete, and then literally like five minutes later would be like, well, we're going to be there for some time. Right.

And then when pressed on that like that juxtaposition of his comments, he just says, maybe it's both. Maybe it's both. Maybe it's both. It must rule to be able to be in reality to your will as like a fucking, like, psychopath of that order. And, like, you get the idea... Okay, I'm getting ahead of myself. Then there was the fact that, like,

as oil markets started... Like, they opened up on Monday, and they obviously immediately started tanking once again. But then Chris Wright, secretary of energy tweeted that a ship had made it through the Strait of Hormuz with the help. One single ship? One single ship with the help.

Aaron, Aaron, one single ship with the help of the U.S. Navy. And that tweet about one ship caused the oil markets to rally. Well, that tweet was a lie. No ship made it through. And so once he deleted his tweet,

then the oil markets, the oil market started to take again. It's like the volatility Yeah, this is this, bro. Well, it's funny because somebody posted an article. I think Chris Hedges wrote it or something in Truth Dig, basically about how like the U.S. The world's moving away from the U.S. dollar is its reserve currency.

Like that's already happening. Yeah. But like now it's happening more aggressively because the nations of the earth just can't take our word for anything and we're so erratic and it's like jamming everybody up. Right, right. And it's like just like, like, you can't. can't fucking blame them dude like you can't fucking blame like like these people just

say this shit just to go make a bundle on like polymarket or something you know like it's just like crime is just legal now like corruption is just legal it's just open season for it you know you get the sense you very much get the sense that like Chris Wright probably tweeted that

himself because he was gonna pump and dump that like all of these guys in Trump's cabinet are clearly just short squeezing the volatility of the current market. They're causing the volatility and then short squeezing it

so that they personally benefit off of it. And that to me is the perfect side-by-side comparison of how U.S. runs a war versus how Iran runs a war. Like say what you want about the tenets of Islamic republicanism or whatever,

but it has at least shielded them from the last 40, 50 years of neoliberal values, just the hollowing out of collective identity and solidarity and collective values that like Iran actually has a strategy, right? Like the U.S. has no strategy other than throw a bunch of stuff at it and then but then also let's personally profit from it

when the markets go fucking haywire and who cares if we bring down the global economy. You can say that Iran is at least thinking in the long term, you know? Yeah. We did not say it's not. It just had me thinking like when you said that Chris Wright tweeted this, like I was thinking of that episode from Succession where Rome, has invested in some private space company. Oh, yeah.

And as he's watching on his phone, the rocket launch, it just explodes. And he just, obviously, this is not even just a metaphor for his old stock tanking, but this is like literally in his investment. It's literally like the shit is exploding. So I'm wondering was Chris Wright watching the tanker go through the straight and four moves? And then saw that, oh, wait, no, actually it's turning back. Dude, if we can send, like. thousands of, like, essentially kids to be cannon fodder for a short squeeze.

Okay. Yeah. On the other side of the world. How far away are we from me making a polymarket bet says that Terrence Ray is going to be dead in the next 14 days? And then just sending people to kill Terrence. You know what I mean? Like, really, truly. Like, we're not going to have this.

The same people who have bet on that as well? I don't want to be clear. I'm not trying to start a purge of Terrence. I'm just like, whoever. You know what I mean? Terrence is like, I'm a father. I'm a Christian. What do you?

I wonder if that's something that, now you just made me think both you guys. I wonder if that's something that they're just going to lean on more. Just, I mean, they lie already. We all fucking know this. It's not like lying is new with the Trump administration, even with just, you know, the American government. Brother, you would be surprised how people will, this is the damnedest thing to me,

is like how transplants. apparently, like, evil these people are. And people still can't separate themselves from the narrative of America enough to just condemn them whole cloth. Well, what, yeah, what, what blows my mind about this is that these are the same people that have been crowing and, you know, getting hysterical over the last 10 years about the decline of the West. And they would clearly, obviously, and Iran has shown this, would gladly sacrifice the entire. West if it meant that they got like $1 million

richer in their fucking oil in their stock portfolio you know what I'm saying? Like they don't give a fuck. These people don't give a fuck, trust me. They do not give a fuck about an oil crisis or like gas prices because they can play the market

with the money they already have to make even more money while the rest of the fucking world burns. They don't care. Exactly. And also too I think added with that is just like the purchase of like I guess the truth. You know what I mean? Or unshoot.

It doesn't even matter anymore because they don't even need our consent to do this shit. You know, and it's almost like no one is listening, except the markets, I guess, you know, which is why you could lie about something like that. I don't know if you did it intentionally, you know. But I mean, that's just like, I don't know, there's like great power in there. You know, it's kind of worrisome that people can bet on these things, you know? Well, I mean, it's not even. Honestly, you don't even need the polymarket to bet on it.

Like, there is an entire sector. I've heard of the stock market. Well, right, yeah, there's an entire sector of the stock markets where you can short squeeze, like, you know, bet on futures and all that stuff. Like, the world has, do you remember, y'all remember around the collapse when the derivatives market came under fire because people are like, these are just junk finance products that people are using to enrich themselves. And that was like, you know, sort of a rallying cry for, you know, a little bit later, like, you know, Occupy Wall Street and all these different things. the world economy well the u.s economy is just is just the derivatives market but all kinds of like just like pseudo finance products like instruments that like you know it used to be like you could you would understand cattle or art or chairs or houses you know what i mean and all that's bad

enough the financialization of like those things is like bad enough but now it's just like these sort of like arcane concepts like the blockchain or this or that or the third. And what it all amounts to is that they've just stolen all of our own IP and data and figured out a way to

financialize all of that. It's like the whole world is just 2008 world. You know? Right, right. And especially make it imperceptible to you, you know? Yeah. You can't understand that shit. Yeah. And these guys don't even fucking understand

it, dude. It's the crazy thing. But they just know. they just have the stature to be able to manipulate it. Yeah, because, I mean, it's like pay to play, basically. Once you have a certain amount of money, you can enter into different tiers of financial speculation that allow you to essentially always come out on top. When is the last time you ever heard of a rich person going bankrupt

or losing everything in the stock market? That never happens. Like, it literally never happens. It's like at this point, I mean, these are all just cliches and truism. The whole thing is essentially rigged. But it does bring it into shark, like a stark contrast when we're up against a opponent that actually has like a collective identity and an entire strategy that says, you know, we're not just in this for like personal gain and like personal glory.

Like it's a national gain in glory. It's survival. It's national survival. And so like that that sort of stark cynicism and nihilism and selfishness at the heart of American society and culture is just I don't know, man. It just compared to Iran. That's kind of what's blown my mind from the very beginning, just how Iran has from day one of this had the upper hand. They have clearly had the upper hand in every regard. Like Trump obviously like getting cold feet and wanting to back out in Iran saying, no, you're not fucking.

No, you win this shit. You're in this now. You're trying to get out the record. You can't get out. You started this. Let's fucking finish it, motherfucker. What was the Iranian general that said that that Netanyahu and Trump have entered a slaughterhouse in the Gulf? That was one of the hardest lines I ever heard.

Do you guys think to that, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong here. But I would say that, like, the war in Iraq, right, which is like, you know, a war that you can't even called a war. It was just like an occupation, right? And then the genocide essentially. But like, that was very profitable. Despite an American psyche, I guess that's a war that's seen as like, I don't know if that's, it's seen as a lost war, but maybe a war with no aim, right? A fruitless war, right? But it made a lot of people money. Do you think going forward in the future, that'll just be sort of the M.O. that it'll be profitable to lose wars and to half-ass them and to jump

at them and to jump into them as if they're these short-term, for short-term profit gain, you know? Dude, that's what it is. All, all this, war in Iran is, is a prop bet. Pretty much. A platform for prop bets. Like the weird bet you see on the gambling sites where they're like, what song is Lady Gaga going to sing at halftime of the Super Bowl? What colors the

Gatorade going to be? They dump on the winning coach. That's what this is. This war, for our purposes, from our perspective. I mean, there's also the petrol, like all this kind of stuff too. And I also don't want to make it sound like, you know, wars have never been for profit or hasn't always been Iraqi.

But it just seems like it's just so two-tiered, whereas not only is it massively unpopular, but just the way that it was done, but the potential profits that these warmongers can reap from it, it's just like, yeah, well, but even us, we don't give a shit if we lose. Even us now, we can just bat on warfare. Right, right.

But that's insane to me. That's insane to me. Well, there is no incentive any longer for the United States to win. Right, right, right. I think that's what you're getting at. It's like, there are, Okay, you could look at this from like a strictly realpolitik standpoint and say like, okay, if there were like more sober minded, you know, killers, cynics, psychopaths, gangsters in the administration, they would take a purely realpolitik view of this and be like, clearly the incentive for the United States to win is to have control over this, the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz, to have more control over the natural resources of Iran to, to,

to basically extend an imperial and territorial influence. But we don't even have that with these guys. That's not even Trump's calculus. They don't have the will. They don't have the interest. No. Their own slavish devotion to profit to enriching themselves at the expense of everyone else,

including the other people in their political coalition, means they have no coherent message and they cannot actually filled or they can't actually put out any kind of coherent ideological front much less they're not behold into ideas of nation

this is why Trump is just going out there saying well I guess more Americans will die oh I get the prices of more than going up I don't think it just comes bored but he just knows that you're going to be the one to suffer you know what to be? All of that is charged to the game dude I saw this thing that

they've been borrowing $50 billion a week for the last two years. All they are doing, when you take the birds, you strip all of the politics and everything that we talk about and all the intricacies

and all that way, it is just a way for them to like just steal money from American people. This statistic in the New York Times blew my mind. The military used up $5.6 billion of munitions

in the first two days of the war alone. It's just like, Dude, I was just thinking of, like, of course, just the cost of that and the destruction, but included in that the environmental impact of something like that? That's insane, dude. Well, yeah, I think that this is an asymmetrical war, right? But it does give you a pretty good example also if you're in,

if you're looking at this from like a union or working class standpoint, how like if you have control over a very important strategic like chokehold of global commerce and logistics, you can exert. a lot of goddamn power and leverage. But like, this, this, the framing of this paragraph in the New York Times story is funny. It talks about this presentation from Marco Rubio about the goals of Iran and how completely fucking baffling and incoherent they are. The presentation appeared to be setting the stage for the president to bring an end to the war

sooner rather than later. In his news conference, Mr. Trump boasted of how the U.S. military had already destroyed Iran's ballistic missile capability and its Navy. But he also warned of even more aggressive action if Iranian leaders tried to cut off the world's energy supply. And like I read that. You did that. You cutting off the world's energy supply.

It's not Iran doing that. What strikes me about that is like they're complete, and you hear this when you listen to NPR and all the Western media, their refusal to actually engage with the fact that Iran doesn't give a fuck. Who cares if they don't care if they stop the fucking world's global energy supply? They have the upper hand. You don't understand they want war because why wouldn't they? The United States has antagonized them for 50 fucking years.

They've brought them to negotiation tables and fuck them over over and over again. They've let Israel just run the fucking region rampant just killing everyone in sight. Why would they have no impetus to drag the United States and Israel into a trap? The United States doesn't care about any of those things either, obviously. Because it would have been, it would have had a more calculated surgical maybe. I don't know if I want to use that term because I don't mean it in the military, military term necessarily, but a more precise, well-planned out, thought-out offensive, you know, and a plan for afterwards, which nobody was that.

That's how you can tell they treated this like a prop bet because there was no. And then right up to Iraq in the early 2000s, they spent two years trying to sell the American people on this. now they don't really understand how they're going to sell the American people on and like if I were like a deranged pervert and they asked me it's like you don't actually have to sell the American people on you you offer them a betting platform so that they all stand to make a little money off of it somehow or another you don't have to you don't even have to do this 9-11 y'all are cooking up in California in the most cartoonish way possible like well I mean I don't know man I'm just I just keep thinking about oh yeah but the false flags I forgot to mention that sorry Aaron go ahead no no I notice This is a moot point, something we've talked about before, but more and more you see that, that Gaza really was sort of this watershed moment where it's how much can you take, how much brutality can you take, you know? You know, from that then followed on like these ice rays, you know, then Maduro being kidnapped and now this, it's like, I mean, not that people weren't outraged or organizing in forms of

resistance against any of that stuff, but, you know, they don't have to, convince you anymore because you're just going to take it you know you're just yeah you're just this is what it is

and you're just going to have to accept that right yeah um and it's the exhaustion that we've talked about right

right right it's why people can't even like figure out how to muster like a response to that you know and they know that they've got us over a barrel

and they know that you know and as we pointed out on Monday it's the shame right it's the shame I kept thinking about that too it's also the

I think shame I was thinking about that too. As much as shame can cause you to act in a way to either absolve yourself of that shame, but in an indirect way, in a futile way, maybe not even actually trying to absolve yourself of it, or either trying to paper it over. It also can like, like, what's the word I'm looking for? It can like sort of like calcify you. I know I'll use that word about, but it can lead to a kind of paralysis. Exactly. It can lead to paralysis. And I think that's, I mean, I think that's I think the American people suffer from that.

There's paralytic guilt a lot, you know. There's no political alternative or political platform on offer that would allow you to transcend it. Right. At this. There's no bulwark to this. And the problem is, it's like, it's just gradually gotten worse. So, like, in the Obama area, it was like the school shootings, you know what I mean?

Like, when people became more and more indifferent to that because they were more and more frequent. Right. Right. And then you get to the point where the Israelis can just, like, try to exterminate. the Palestinian people and that when that became okay our failure to engage with that and do anything meaningful about that as the people set the stage for this pandemonium and I mean that in the literal sense of pan de all the demons gathering pandemonium you know and I'm like that's

what it is that's what it is it's like you know not to tie it back to scripture like I always do but it is like kind of the the the fulfillment of a kind of a biblical prophet and that the devil will be loosed for a season, and he will just run roughshod over everything. That's the era we're in. If you really want to talk about prophecy, we're in that error right now. You know, I want to read this article from our favorite Stevens

about four ways the war could go. But before I get into it, I did want to point out this other article I read in the Financial Times, which I think is very fascinating. And we've talked a lot about, like, where is this all heading with regards to Israel, the United States? Like

it would very much seem like as I've said multiple times just this episode but also over the last several weeks like the Iranians have expertly and in my opinion brilliantly engineered a trap essentially.

They have they basically pull they I mean you know the United States and Israel are obviously the ones that just hit them completely unprovoked

and started this but the Iranians in like in my opinion like a sort of like straight G fashion or just like well let's finish it then you want to fucking fight like let's fucking finish the goddamn fight like you know and you can tell

like there who knows how this ends there's no fucking way to tell the future it could end up very badly for the Iranians. They could, quote, unquote, lose in however you define warfare, victory or defeated warfare. But you cannot say at this point that America has not officially, by doing this, we have, in my opinion, I think we have finally crossed that event horizon we've all been waiting

for, where we would no longer have just like an unofficial, kind of an unofficial, unacknowledged end of the country, both as a cultural entity but also a political entity, but that in my opinion we are now rapidly barreling towards

an official speed running decline? Yes, a speed running decline. Because in one fell swoop, Iran proved that the United States has no allies, with the exception of one, it proved that the United States cannot control global logistics of commodities, like it once did, and it proved that, like, it cannot protect its partners in this region.

Can't even honor its word. Can't even honor its word. And that will have long-term and short-term consequences, in my opinion. Like, this is, like 9-11. And it kind of finally rips the facade off of the illusion in a way. And I mean, what perfect partner to do this death spiral dance with other than Israel? Than Israel. Yeah.

I mean, it's almost poetic, you know, in our union, unholy union, I guess. Well, yeah, I'm glad you said that, actually. That's a perfect way for me to segue to this Financial Times article, which is, it's just called military briefing, the closest U.S. Israel war yet. Not since the Suez Crisis has the idea of fought alongside a. an ally in a major military offensive. And so I'm just going to pick out a few excerpts here. The speed and ferocity of the aerial campaign of U.S. and Israel has required extraordinary levels of coordination from the initial war plan that was put together to the thousands

of phone conversations every day between the two militaries. It's a mind-mailed, said Dan Shapiro, a former senior U.S. defense official and ambassador to Israel. I just want to point out just logistically, that seems like a nightmare coordinating with Israel. It just seems like, I mean, and I don't want this operation to continue going along any smoother, but it just seems like it's not as like flexible and malleable, you know what I mean? Like sort of having to communicate with Israel. I mean, I don't know. It just seems a, you know, can't think of a worst partner to, you know, to dance with, you know.

Imagine how knowing those calls must be. Jesus, fuck. these photos these um billboards on the streets of Tel Aviv are really interesting um they're all over the streets of televieve it's a photo of these billboards with um half

American flag half of Israeli flags not even just half but it looks like they're melding into each other like croninbergian like creature yes they're melding into each other and people fucking losing their goddamn minds over like you know if you let a flag hit

touch the ground you got to burn it immediately we're just doing half Israel half US flags now and all those same people are mad about the flags not quite flying high enough or something or you know it reminds me of that infamous photo of the guy who has an Israeli flag a Confederate flag pretty sure there's a Nazi flag in there swastika then he has like some like Filipino dictatorship flag but he has them all on the same flagpole. We should just like... Yeah, some people were like, how do all these work together?

It's like, well, I mean, they do. We should just like make the American flag all of that, you know? Throwing the flag rodisi in there. It's, um... It becomes clear here. I think that you could not ask for a better visual metaphor than those billboards of the two melding together and some Cronenbergian, like, entity.

Yeah. But like, I was thinking about this. You know how the United States military in the 20th century became the place that early social advances were kind of experimented and worked out like integrating the military along race lines

and then integrating LGBT into the military and all this, right? Like the military was always the front line of like the whatever social cause or social justice thing would be coming down the pipeline. It does, in my opinion, It does kind of seem as a little bit of a harbinger that the United States military would now be mind melding, as they put it, with the Israeli military. Because it seems here, we talked a little bit about this last week, about the diverging aims of Israel and the United States in the diplomacy world.

When it comes to military, however, their, let's say, like, division of labor is pretty evenly delineated, pretty much. pretty well delineated and articulated. It says here, former U.S. officials and analysts said it was likely the killing of Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamini was deliberately undertaken by Israeli jets because of legal

sensitivities in Washington over-assassinating a foreign head of state. So it's kind of like... Not like we haven't done it before. That's true. That is true. Yeah, how foreign a concept. I think, though, like, what I'm trying to get at is that like Israel's kind of

becoming like a sort of spec ops a part of the American military. They, by the way, have joined CENTCOM. Israel has. They've been put under CENTCOM. And so, you know, I think that, like, it seems to me that, like, the United States would like to get back to its old glories of colonial rape and pillage and conquest, but it isn't quite sure how to do that, seen as how, like, the military was kind of, quote, unquote, woke in Pete Heggseth's formulation.

So their easiest way to do that is just to let Israel do the most unwoke stuff. And not, you know, which is funny because, like, as you pointed out, Aaron, like, why would we even, like, look at Iraq. Like, that was done without Israel. Right. So why would we need them to do that? But I don't know. Maybe that's the geopolitical. It's kind of funny when you think about how, like, their racism and, like, you know,

their anti-trans and anti-gay stuff has really kind of worked against them in the warfare theater. because like as you pointed out, Terrance, it's like the military used to be sort of the litmus test for like how society was progressing in that way. And they're like hard line stance like, shit like don't ask, don't tell from the 90s and like all this shit that when they started, you know, it like sort of playing out all the racisms and the, like they didn't really account for how, yeah, on the one hand, when you like sort of break up the national story and have all Americans hating each other and at each other's throats, it becomes. a ripe atmosphere to like make money off of like the financialization and the wagering on every fucking human interaction vis-a-vis, call she, polymarket, etc. But you didn't count and it's how it might fuck you over in warfare because like now everybody's like fuck the military. Let's go Iran.

Like that's just something that wouldn't even happen in the 80s or 90s. Like even if like we were getting snowed about like, you know, what was going on over there. My hunch is in America if you were a kid. like you thought Saddam Hussein was the boogey when you were a kid or Gaddafi or anybody they've made these figures. But now it's like those same kids today

are cheering for those guys. You know what I mean? And rightfully so in the case of Iran. You know what I mean? Yeah, you really, your imperial project has really taken a downturn when you haven't done the hard work at home or convincing the people

that are your supposed enemies or people that, you know, Americans should be afraid of and worried about, you know. The oldest, easiest thing for anybody to get behind is supporting the ill fortune in the face of like assault from the fortunate. You know what I mean? And you know shit is getting bad when like they're making movies trying to get you to sympathize with the rich guy.

You know what I think? Like it's just, it's so crazy how that like we've just shot herself in the foot because we were trying to make a quick buck off of like division. You know what I mean? Or what I mean? Well, I think that you see that like it's weird, man. And the, you know, speaking of like shooting ourselves in the foot, like, it is very bizarre to me that, like, the U.S. ruling class still has some desire to have a coherent ideological project. And that perhaps explains a little bit, like, why they want to follow Israel to the path to hell, I guess. I mean, did you see Pete Hagseth saying, like, you know, we've completed your mission.

You know what I'm saying to Israel? Like this week... We said that directly? Yeah, like they can't help telling on themselves. But they've chosen this path, though. I cannot stress this enough. I just thought of this because I just opened Twitter and the first thing I see is this Jim Kramer tweet.

If the infrastructure is not taken out and the money is not taken away, why should Iran come to the peace table? They are taunting us with $200 oil. They do not have the cards. Our military must be unleashed. Time to do what we did to Hanoi. into the table. It's like we started the fucking war. What are you talking

that's why I don't even understand. Are you fucking delusional? We were at the table when we started bobbing this. Iran was at the table and we fucking hit them while they were negotiating. Like what are you talking about? Dude, it is this bitch assness

that runs through American society. And we've let the Israelis influence in that way, the king bitch asses. While we were sitting here talking about this, I thought of how funny it would be if we did like a in the army now type satire where we send vows shlomo and israeli sex criminal settlers they get conscripted in the military and then there's like a roughhune uh aldorraine type guy that makes their life hell you want that you want that free health care and that stolen house boy you're gonna get over here to you know i'd like

I guess I'm, that Jim Kramer tweet, and, you know, I want to read this Brett Stevens thing real fast, but just to like, kind of stated explicitly, the widespread inability of all these people, whether it's Jim Kramer or Bill Ackman on Wall Street, or whether it's the people at the fucking Pentagon, or the people of the New York Times, or NPR, or whatever, the widespread inability to countenance the fact that we've already lost. it's over. You don't understand. Like, the only thing left for us to do to win, quote, unquote, in the conventional sense, would be dropping a nuke, and that would also mean we've lost. You get that, right? That's the cowardly move.

I have to tell you, too, though. And like when Israel and the United States thinks those terms, I'm reading no country for old men now after having watched it nine million times. And it's like, in the contest between man and steer, it's still not a decided question. So you're going to go ahead and tell you. You all might get goalie and think that you're going to make your little fucking Israeli project. Everybody's problem in the U.S. is going to book in that. But you might get surprised.

There's a reason they knew exactly where those Mossad and CIA guys were in Dubai, okay? So like even on just a one-to-one, brother, you might be more behind the eight ball than you even think. And not only the specific people, Tom, but they knew the fucking chug points of the global economy. they knew where to hit it in such a way that would do long-term political and economic damage to it. And to that point, I don't know if y'all saw this, but in the Financial Times there was an article that, like, if the war ended tomorrow,

they could not get gas prices down to pre-war levels until the end of 2027. Which would be going into the campaign season and stuff. It's already over. And that's at the earliest, they said. Yeah, like this, it's, it has single-handedly it was an own goal they shot

their cells in the dick like they fucking I mean when you said that I mean if we're just talking about kind of the political utility of this right for the American political class the Republican Party especially Trump when you said that this shit might go on until November dude election season

man that's just like absolutely fucking insane that nobody thought about that well it's not that it's not that I don't think they didn't think about it I think it's just the hubris you know They really thought they weren't aware of Iran's capability, you know. I've been thinking about that with relation to Brett Stevens, right, who's like one of the most bloodthirsty, racist commentators in the West when it comes to Iran.

Like that has been his mainstay for 20 years now that Iran must go down. And I've been thinking about that. I've been thinking about him since this started because, you know, Iran's not going away, brother. Like they fucking... They've been here a long time. Yeah, yeah, and they're going to continue to be here a long time. Yeah, and they've demonstrated it. It's not this, like, they've had this, like, one-dimensional view of the place.

Like, it's, like, run by a supreme leader cleric, and it's, like, this top-down authoritarian country. And it's, like, if that was true, then that means the whole thing probably would have imploded when you killed the guy, don't you think? But, like, they're stronger than ever. So maybe you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. There's only one exit rant to this. and the U.S. suffers a massive blow. But it's just tucked tail and just, all right, you got us. But you're right.

At that point, they'd be basically retreating from all their bases in the region, as well as their ability to control logistics. Because Iran has said that. It's like the U.S. has to get its presence out of the region entirely, and Israel has to collapse as an entity. Those are two things that I didn't think would be possible in my life, and they might be possible by this summer. Right, right.

You know what I mean? And impossible only because of the United States' actions, you know what I mean? Right. They chose. And we chose that. Chose that. I can't stress that enough. When we could have just left well enough alone and basically just had the same deal in place

that we've always had, but we had to keep poking that. We had to keep poking that to see what was up. There's a reason why more sober-minded people, but nevertheless, bloodthirsty people, bloodthirsty of people than these fucking rejects have said, no, you can't attack Iran. There's a reason why Barack Obama, the drone president, still had the stones to tell Israel, no, we're not going to fight this war. This is like, this would be suicide. And they found the guy fucking dumb enough and fucking cartoonish enough to make a fool out of all of us. And it's so crazy.

I genuinely think that only in a political environment of neoliberalism can an end-times Zionism take root within America's leading class. I'm talking about Christian and Jewish variants. You know what I mean? Zionism is how we got. It's kind of how we got to this particular point in the last several months. Like obviously there is a larger political economic argument

and all kinds of other trends flowing into it. But we blew our dicks off because Zionism is a, in the American sense, a kind of malleable ideology for allowing yourself to, implode everything while enriching yourselves at the expense of everyone else. Not realizing that

you yourself could also become fucking you know hamburger one day. I mean... Because the Israeli strain of that is omniside. Exactly. It's basically like if you gave the heaven gates called a nuclear

weapon and like an office job on Wall Street. That's exactly what it's like. I want to read this from Brett real quick. The most famous query in the history of modern warfare came from David Betrayus, then a major general in an interview with Rich Rick Atkinson, then a reporter during the initial assault on Iraq. Tell me how this ends.

When it comes to the war in Iran, there are, broadly speaking, four possible scenarios. So I've ever do with the multiverse? Yeah, there's the threat team is multiverse. Okay. This will tell you so much about Brett's thinking and how he views the world and his kind of Western chauvinism. Regime change is the most optimistic one. Some imagine it will take the form of the resumption of the mass demonstrations that the regime bloodily stamped out in January. Millions of Iranians marching in dozens of cities joined by police officers and soldiers and commanders from the conventional army, emboldened by American and Israeli air support,

rising to tear down their rulers and see what appravedice. That sounds like a Ben Garrison cartoon. That's fanfic, bro. That's fanfic. Uyus and Israeli plays while the irradiated people march. Come on, dude. By the way, if that was going to happen,

already would have happened. Okay, like there is no fucking, Congress was warned before this even happened that that would not happen. How did it? How did astro-turfed Israelis in a handful of astro-turfed Israelis in Iran and the L.A. Iranian diaspora? How did they take those two things and convince us that 90 million people wanted Khomeini dead? It's like an absurd thing on its face. You know what I mean? To that to that point, too, just the fact that you would have a bunch of array.

I'm not saying that there weren't protesters against the Ayatollah, sure, whatever, right? But this idea that Israel and the U.S. No, not meaningfully. But this is not to say that Israel, U.S. would be bombing anyone at all? Like, what do you mean regime change? Israel doesn't want regime change. Yeah, they openly said they don't want it. They want to kill, they just want to kill everyone there. They've said that.

The most optimistic and the least realistic outcome, okay. It is very, it is a remnant, it's a very sour division of, like, in my opinion, it kind of stems from our own shame of not having that. They're like, everybody wants that, right? Everybody wants freedom and democracy, but we don't have it either. So, you know what I mean? It's like a kind of projection of shame around the world. Nobody should discount this scenario, especially if Iran continues to be battered militarily and politically.

Perhaps with the loss of additional echelons of leadership. Nobody should count on it either, at least not in the short term. However incapable of the regime might be of defending its airspace, it remains terrifyingly capable of killing its people. And with so much blood on its hands, it is every incentive to hold on. to power. I just don't understand why you think. What prey tail do you think carpet bombing the largest neighborhoods in Tehran is I don't understand.

I think regime change is the last thing on people's minds in Iran because they're getting bombed by the U.S., the United States and Israel. By the people who claim to want their regime. To liberate them. Like, what are you talking about? That's only an American and Israeli could come up with that. Like, come up with that. We must liberate by killing them.

Killing everyone. killing everyone. And we'll entertain nukes too. Like a crime against humanity, world altering, like... Tom, it's as Erica Kirk says,

make heaven crowded, bro. That you liberate people by sending them to heaven. You know what I have to say, though, this is, I have to have to recircle back to the chat GPT. This is a chat GPT-ass war.

Because that does feel like something chat GPT would say. Like, okay, if you want this to be over, just kill Everyone. Well, you did have that, you did have that CPAC guy that said, oh, those schoolchildren we killed on the first night of the offensive, they're better off dead than in a burqa. Yes, the guy like that needs to be skinned a lot.

Which, by the way, I mean, no point in pointing out hypocrisy, but like, obviously the same people who, in my opinion, I saw this, I think Sam Adler Bell wrote this. There is, like, there's, the thing that kind of, like, animates. all of these people in MaguWorld is their undying genocidal hatred of women. You know what I'm saying? That is like, and for them to be saying that. Like, I guess that actually does track though, right?

Yeah, let's liberate them from the burqa, but at home, I saw that Josh Hawley was getting too frustrated with the FDA's review of birth control drugs and he signed an executive order to restrict certain birth control drugs in Missouri. Yeah. Well, okay, so that's Brett's first potential outcome. Regime change. Second outcome, regime modification.

That is, a regime that stays in place but complies with U.S. and Israeli demands. Is that an optimistic scenario? Bro, let me get the regime light. Dude, he's so goddamn stupid. He's so goddamn stupid. Dude, people have pointed this out, but when they, that strike that hit Kamani killed a ton of other fucking people in the leader. of Iran who are were more

moderates. So if you wanted regime modification and perhaps something a little more, Akhmedinajad was a fucking reformer. You know what I'm saying? Well, they didn't kill him, but they did try to kill him. A few times. But well in this

too, like there were reports that he was killed in the initial strikes on Kamani. But it turns out that they were mistaken. And then he got on Twitter and told everybody to have a nice day and like just posted a picture of him with like a little A ad duck or something But like they've killed

The moderates too So like there won't be modification You've insured Like Kamady himself had issued A Fatwa against nuclear weapon creation like you What the fuck are you talking about What you did Terrence is the

Modificate the moderator bomb Which only killed The most extreme people And saves and spares everyone That you would have diplomatically like work with You know Third Just just just

juxtapose like, you know, we're talking about the, I don't know what his office was, but the representative that just came out and assured American people. It's like, we don't wish ordinary Americans any harm, you know, like, we understand most people voted against like these type of people and all that kind of stuff, you know, da-da-da-da-da. Meanwhile, we have our leaders back home plotting how to thin the herd by more than 200 million people. And it's like, when I see the Iranians putting on their bombs, you know, Maybe, I don't know if this was like real or not, but so I put an askerick beside it, but probably true and cool if they did, but it's like for the victims of Epstein Island

before they failed to tell me with them. You're right. Like, who's trying to liberate who, honestly? Yeah, our ruling class is clearly just run by people who would not give a fuck, who would clearly nuke us, who would nuke every- Step over your frozen corpse in the street, brother. And they telegraph it with every appearance. they make on television.

Every time they go in front of a committee in front of Congress, they don't, they could give a fuck about you. But like, okay, as, here's my question, real quick before we get too far away from that question.

Like, somebody carries out these orders. Like, there's not like a red button Trump can press and just like, right, American cities and stuff. Like, are the,

would the U.S. military be so brainwashed as if, like, Trump's getting ready to get strung up from a light pole unless he just destroys the world? Would they be so crazy? Raven has to carry that out. This is where the U.S.,

this is where the Israeli military comes in, brother. They would. U.S. military probably wouldn't do it, but the fucking Israeli military certainly would. Yeah, let me help you all out. I think I, people, okay, you may think this is insane. Both of you may think this is insane.

The audience may think this is insane. But I genuinely think that's the point of the Israeli-U.S. military mind-milled. It's to basically get a component of the American military writ large that's totally fine with just executing American citizens in the street because the ice thing didn't really work

but those guys weren't really trained very well. It would be an outpost of the IDF but domestically essentially and they would have no problem nuking American cities right so like I don't it's a perfect pathway or mechanism to being to getting us to the

place where we can start gunning down hundreds of thousands of Americans and nuking their homes. Defend Israel's actions in concert with the United States. Exactly. Exactly. You may call it crazy, but look, give it enough time.

Ten years? That's not outside the realm of possibility. Well, if you think about the worship of death. I mean, think about Trump coming to Kentucky yesterday. And he, like, brings out Jake Paul. And there's, like, a woman that, like, might have died, like, right behind him. And he says, while we're waiting for that, cue up Ave Maria. Like, somebody pointed out, which is a funeral song.

Like, I could imagine a more, like... Wait, did she, like, pass out or something? I think she like passed out, but like somebody was like it might have been worse than that. You know, I just have to say that. I just love that this is a common theme through like Trump events where the event that he got shot at and someone died that was standing like behind him. They're all chants in USA, USA, and Trump is holding his ear and some guys bleeding out at their feet, dude. At that point, if you're basically playing her funeral music, like get the dead body on stage. Like, let's do some shit with the dead box.

Be like, yo, don't die real quick. What was your favorite song? That was, you put it up. And the guy up there with him is like, I don't, I'm not sure why he brought Jake Paul to Kentucky. Maybe people might be in that. I don't fucking know. I think he endorsed him. I think he's running for office or something.

In Kentucky, his head against Thomas Masked? No, he live here. But how, like, a guy that's made his, like, basically his, like, stupid-ass career off of, like, beating up on has-been fighters and like I know in one case he beat Nate Robinson a former basketball player that was waiting for a kidney transplant. I think it's a Nate Robinson, the

fucking current affairs guy. I was like, wait, what? Wait. You mean the guy that just is like the daddy plantation owner? No. Not him. Former NBA player. The video, by the way, Tom, of him in Kentucky was just fucking

pathetic, man. Like, you know how he does this dancing thing? He did his dancing thing, and the audience is just kind of like, woo, yeah. And he, like, tells some jokes, no one laughs. Like, the fucking piss is gone, man. He's lost his fastball, man. It is just, it's no one fucking gives, no one wants to die for Israel.

No one wants higher gas prices. No one wants pedophiles running the fuck. No one cares. No one continues. To support the person they voted for, brother. They're out of ideas, too, when, like, you know, you got the ADL running. like puff pieces in the Washington Post saying that the U.S. military

calling it Operation Epstein Fury or whatever. The people on the internet calling it the Operation Epstein Fury. It's anti-Semitic. I heard it was like U.S. soldiers, so they were like chiding U.S. soldiers that were like calling it Operation Epstein Fury. There you go, man. There's another place

where the Israeli military can step in and you know, with some friendly fire, some quote-unquote friendly fire you're going to take care of that subversive element we need that we our troops need to sit their their white asses down and listen about anti-semitism i genuinely think that's what's going to happen dude the u.sss liberty was just like um it was not an aberration like we're getting to the point where like the function of the israeli military to american politics and american political

life is just um mass assassination mass executions um mass destruction and bombings It's got to happen. It is hell. The years of lead broke you by Israel, yeah. Yeah, but it'll be like... This is actually my idea now, honestly. I'm so depressed every day I wake up because I can't imagine a worse fate

that being governed by these bitch-ass sore winter fucking crooks who also just have the tackiest facade. And it's like, all of it combined is like truly a nightmare. Sorry, sorry. Well, to get back to Brett real quick, We saw the first scenario, which was regime change. Second scenario is regime modification.

He says, but the new Khomeini's reign may be very short-lived, and whoever runs the regime next will have to come to grips with its vulnerability and isolation. Why that sound like a threat? I mean, I don't know if I would call it. They might be vulnerable in some sense, but... What are you talking about isolated? God damn! I'm telling you, the day one of those missiles finally connects with that in Yahoo,

you're going to think Iran one of the goddamn work. World Cup. And the nations of the earth will rejoice in the streets with them. What the fuck you talk about, Isolay? They got community. Even if they didn't have the world chairing on Mahan, they'd still have community. Well, yeah, I saw this, like, their attacks against the UAE have basically dried up support for that fucking paramilitary operating in Sudan, the RAF.

And so the Sudanese forces are finally being able to, like, drive the RAF from certain cities and stuff. So it's like, I would not call them isolated. They have managed within a few weeks to show like globally they're standing with, they're protecting Cuba right now just by, you know what I'm saying? Like they, I would not call them isolated. Yeah, they're halting that Michigan. Like, man, dude, that's true. When you hear U.S. media, these U.S. pundits or anybody with any sort of interest in U.S. ruling class interests, say Iran's the world's biggest state sponsor of terror. What they mean is that Iran, puts a check on some of those

outfits operating, you know, like ISIS or, you know, whatever of those outfits that... All of them. That are sponsored by Israel at the United States. Right. Exactly. You got Epstein talking about being a proxy supporter of ISIS in the emails. Like, dude, there's a fucking

clip from... Come on. There's a clip of Sinwar, like, from before October 7th from like five, six years ago where he's, like, giving the speech, like, the Arab nations of the Middle East all fucking deserted deserted us. You know who stood by our side? run. The only ones

who fucking came to our rescue and our help. I just have to say, you just have to ask yourself, who would benefit

and who would like lose out on stability in the Middle East, right? The United States wouldn't benefit from any stability.

Israel wouldn't benefit from any stability. No. That's the reason they pin fucking 9-11 on Saddam. Saddam was like, you know,

when the pan Arabists were around and stuff like that, yeah, there was always tension with like Iran too, obviously,

but it was like, that was the big check on Israel, you know what I mean? Well, and as I said earlier, like, you kind of get the sense that, like, their own internal governing ideology has kind of protected them from the worst successes of neoliberal governing ideology. You know what I'm saying? Like, which I don't know, maybe that's for better or for worse. It just is what it is. It's not a capitalist-centered governing ideology, right? And you cannot say that for fucking Saudi Arabia. I mean, they may practice...

Oh, you see the Saudis how their bitch asses are acting now? Are our brother Muslim countries. Where was the brother Muslim country shit when you could have did something about the genocide, you fucking dogs? Yeah. But you see how they're... Yeah, they want to be brothers now

that they're on the fucking ropes. Fucking... Just the worst bitch asses in the world. As Brett writes here, that isolation will be especially pronounced if U.S. forces sees Karg Island 15 or 16 miles off the Iranian enclosed in the Persian Gulf,

which serves as the terminal for roughly 90% of Iran's oil experts. Can I just say he's projecting all of this onto the Trump administration that they're not going to do? It's not even best case scenario. It's just they're not intelligent enough.

He's pulling wet farts out of his ass to make, like, just to have, so he can cash another check. None of this means anything. It's a soft, Drake. American can, right. Well, yeah, they wouldn't do it because they would immediately get their shit pushed in. Like, what are you going to fucking, you're going to occupy an island?

How the fuck are you going to do that? Like, against Iranians drones and you can't even get through Harboos, dog. What are you talking about? And they're ready for boots on the ground. Like, they're almost giddy for it is the crazy thing. They even said they're going to show up like this and leave like this. so I don't If those first

If like the U.S. and Israel's strength You're talking about Iranian? Yeah the Iranians If the U.S. and Israel's strength is the Air Force Right? Like from the air and we're getting our ship pushed in that much Yeah What the fuck do you think they've got up their sleeve

For fucking boots on the ground, bro? You can see a lot more misaligned American caskets Coming back. That was another thing about Trump's You know famously like one of the handful Well, I don't know a handful I don't know what the death count is but there was like a Kentucky soldier that got killed in Iran

in the first couple of days. Trump didn't even mention him. You know, like that's usually their bread and butter. Oh, dude. Yeah, you forgot to mention his name, Benjamin Pennington. That's most E.K.Y. shit. The pendulum, dog. They killed the Benjamin.

Betty Petty. But, yeah, I mean, can you blame Iran? Like I said earlier, like if it was you and someone was fucking threatening to knock down your home, fucking, kill your family, fuck your wife, like take all your money

and assets for 47 years. And you were a good sport about it too. And went to the table and met them and like, these guys are psychopaths, but like, I'll be the bigger person try to come up with some agreement with them. And that still wasn't good enough for you?

It still wasn't good enough for them. They hit you when you were negotiating in good faith. That would be time to take the motherfucking gloves off. You know what I mean? Like, you're out of your mind. Oh, I didn't mean to make it sound like a conservative was like our poor boys and girls that are getting murdered over there which that's bad on it like in another realm but like I didn't mean to sound like I just mean like that usually is the conservatives like bread and butters to echo like the lost brave men and women he doesn't even do that it's just like he's fucking just dancing to his you know the number one anthem for gay sex

Americans control of Carg Island would give the administration the whip hand over most of the regime's remaining revenues, including its ability to pay salaries for soldiers and civil servants alike. That could help clarify to even the most hardline elements in the regime whether it is really worth it to enrich uranium or send munitions to Hezbollah so that they can be destroyed by Israel. Well, I mean, we've already pointed this out, but like there was already a check on. on the Enronium enrichment, and you fucking killed them. So I don't know what the fucking expect. But perhaps the regime refuses to yield, and the war carries on in much the same way

for another two or three weeks before some sort of mutual... You mean with us getting our asses kicked off? Yeah, before some sort of mutual ceasefire declaration. Probably before Trump visits Beijing on March 31st. In this third scenario, all sides declare their own sort of victory, and none of them quite believe it. Trump will not have achieved anything like Iran's unconditional surrender,

much less had a hand in choosing the regime's next leader Netanyahu will have fallen short of his decades-long dream of toppling the mullahs and Iran's leaders will crow that the quote resistance they supposedly embody prove stronger than the great and little sadans combined but they would be right though but they would be right they're right like what they would be right in this case though because the US and Israel did not achieve their goals the ones that started the fucking war like he's such a fucking child dude it's it's him just like playing G.I. Joe's on this floor just like

but there will be the great idea. So you have three days. You have three days? You have three days. Everybody's equal. Like, fucking moron. Like, they'll crow that they have, that they've, that they've,

the resistance isn't as strong as, that's what they've already proven, you fucking moron. Reality, however, will catch up. The sanctions that have already crippled the regime economically will not be lifted. It's hard to imagine the war ending before the U.S. and Israel attack Iran's remaining nuclear sites

and any efforts by Iran to conduct spectacular terrorist attacks in the vein of Libya's 1988 locker be bombing or to mine the straight of hormones Asterisk beside that by the line. What you mean is the Central Intelligence Agency's locker be bombed. The era in which Iranian leaders

thought themselves in vulnerable is over. Yeah, yeah, okay. So why isn't Iran fell already? Yeah, I... Why are U.S. Why are U.S. Truth is really true? If it's so fragile and for the taking, you'd think of it, you know. What Hakes S.

say that one of the bombing campaigns the other day was the biggest in U.S. history or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Still no. Sick. Still nothing. Still nothing.

I mean, what it is, is like a guy like Brett, like they have had their entire lives. Their fucking pussy-ass words backstopped by the largest military ever assembled in human history. And so they've never had to meet actual. determination and resolve in the fate because otherwise they've just been able to napalm and carpet bomb everything else and pretend like there's no fucking resistance well you can't fucking pretend any longer bitch it's fucking here the check is gonna do and payable

you're gonna learn today what this third scenario suggests is that the regime will only survive in a a zombieified state that could in turn lead to an eventual regime change in a few years time just what is he was talking about u.s or iran Yeah, Israel. Who is he talking about? You got to be more specific, Brad.

This scenario has an ugly cousin. This is the fourth scenario. Not regime change, but state collapse. The most worrisome form it could take would resemble Syria during its 13 years of war. Again, he's talking about Israel or Iran. He's talking about Iran. Along with the killing

would come waves of refugees throughout the Middle East and into Europe and Australia. No wonder Trump dissuaded Kurdish forces in Iraq from crossing the border I like how much of a psychopath he is where it's like oh the problem is not even that the quality of life right for anyone being bombed in Iran

right or these prospective refugees but the problem is that the refugees are going to start flooding our borders well yeah they that's an issue they cannot betray every time they open their mouths that they could give a fuck about the people of Iran you know what I'm saying? Because if you talk enough which these people's jobs

they can't keep the propaganda consistent for long enough to actually like get any consistent through lines. So like if you they just fucking ramble and talk enough eventually they get to a point where they're just like well. Well their hatred bubbles to the surface. Like their racism eventually bubbles to the surface. It leaks

out. You know what I'm saying? I like this. No wonder Trump dissuaded Kurdish forces in Iraq from crossing the border into Iran. I think the Iranian missiles dissuaded the Kurdish forces from crossing the border. I don't think it had anything to do with Trump. But those forces may not sit still, but

weakened Iranian regime starts massacring rest of Kurds within Iran's borders. Much the same could go for Iran's Baluk minority in the southeast in Iran. Wait, hasn't there, like, hasn't the Kurds basically told Trump like, like, I guess the Kurds have just kind

of been like, didn't he appeal to them to open up another front in like northern Iran or something? The Kurds were like, yeah, you fucked us over in Iraq. We're good. We're going to stay out of this one. We're going to sit this one out, brother. You got this. You got this. Good luck, though. The Israelis may not entirely mind that scenario on the theory that it fractured Iran as someone else's problem.

For the U.S. and our Arab allies, it's a different story. Long-term infighting in Iran may mean an end to the nuclear threat, but it gives us no rest from Mide East problems. What then should the Trump administration do? My prescription sees Karg Island. Minor blockade Iran's remaining ports. Destroy as much Iranian military capability as possible over the next week or two, including a second midnight hammer operation to destroy what's left of Iran's nuclear capacity and know-how and threaten the regime with further bombing if it massacres its own citizens,

mounts terrorists attacks abroad, or returns to nuclear. I love that. We should be able to kill your citizens, not you? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. This is hilarious. It's like, also, when did a fancy lad with what I presume is a journalism degree become a military mastermind?

Here's what I would do. If I was a, if I was a joke. If he was in charge, what are you doing? Nothing anybody's asking me. Just that like it's that easy. Brett, I wouldn't,

you couldn't organize a fucking late night run to Taco Bell, much less a military offense. What the fuck are you talking about? Also, who are you writing for at this point? I mean, I always have to ask these questions when we read these kinds of articles.

Do you think like fucking Hanksett is reading this shit right now, too? No, it's more, uh, a Hax set is not much more qualified, to be honest.

Brett, Brett is the, in my opinion, what's always kind of drawn me to him is like, if Thomas Friedman is kind of like the naive, you know, embodiment of U.S. Empire, you know what I mean? Like the fucking quiet American just kind of hapless bumbling around like a moron, like leaving death and destruction in his path. Like Brett's kind of the, the shameful, pitiful, like pathetic embodiment of it. You know what I'm saying? like that's never had to sacrifice anything in his life that's never had to face any hardship or anything like that like um how's always been given the gold star has always been told he's right yeah yeah yeah yeah um but also you're right that it's just that easy like he's macarthur like uh sees car gilean it's like do you realize what that fucking would entail dude you realize how difficult that would be but it just goes to show you that like and I mean, you know, I don't know if any American war has ever been about mitigating the loss of life, but it just goes to show you that, yes, of course, they don't care about Iranian's dying,

but they don't give a shit about Americans die. They do not care at all. What I was talking about on the Patreon episode on Monday, like, even if you believe the conservative line on this, like you were saying, Tom, how is that a good deal for Americans? Why the fuck, like, why would you want to die for a country that, like, wants you to sacrifice your life so we can eat burgers and listen to a cold, drink cold beer on a Friday night and a pair of jeans

the fridge is right. Like what, what, how do you benefit from that anyway? Look at that, look at that woman who couldn't, who couldn't find meeting in her son's death

when his tank fell into a river. And it took another act of imperial aggression for her to feel like, against the country where that didn't even happen, you know? Yeah, look, look how empty of most Americans' lives are.

Why do you think that's would fulfill that? That is probably, you probably said, but I mean, we're so demoralized that we failed to find meaning in anything. And it's the same thing animating these like live nation dickheads fleecing us to go like enjoy one of the few things that Americans can afford to do historically just like go to a concert or something. You know what I mean? Now you can't even do that.

So it's like the same thing, Undergarden, that sort of like greed that does that is like you can just trace it back to Iran. It's just like we'll accept any fucking bullshit heap dumpies. We just will. and try to find because there's a puncher's chance we might be able to find some meaning in it. Yeah. And when it inevitably never comes,

then we feel this overwhelming sense of shame and self-blooding. And we just rinse and repeat, brother. And then the therapists of the world and the better helps are just doing the birdman hand rub. You know?

That, this is the last paragraph. That constitutes the most realistic path to victory at the lowest plausible price and lives risk and treasure. Brett Stevens' plan for the most realistic path to victory at the lowest plausible price and lives risk and treasure. Dude. And for all... That is... That is like...

It's like when you'd sit on one of these calls with one of these old Obama-era fucking consultants, when you'd be talking about something like mountain top removal and how do we stop it in Congress and all this stuff. And they'd say something like, the path to victory is narrow, but it's there. And then they just like cash a check for $10,000. Like, can you imagine if your best prospect is a suicide mission? Like, just on the face of it,

I think I'd probably just tuck tail and run before I would do that. You know what I mean? I think if you want to play like McArthur and you want to write about military strategies without ever having sacrifice or anything, I think you should just sign up, you know. You sign up to fight Iran, you know what I mean? I mean, think about the balance.

Think about the ledger sheet, man. It's like you're just some kid from the Midwest who, like, you believe that you're supposed to be doing this because of some ideological set of precepts and maybe because... You watch Yellowstone too much. You watched Yellowstone too much. You were kind of structurally pushed in that direction

through a variety of, like, standardized tests. You think a pair of jeans that fits just right. ride is the idea of freedom. Yeah, like that's pretty fucking weak, T, compared to someone fighting for the survival of their entire family and bloodline and community and civilization. You know what it's like, bro, it's like when the right wing, because you always see these posts lately,

where they post these nostalgia-baiting posts from like the 2000s, you know. So pre-9-11, pre-Rocke war, war and terror, you know. Like opining for like when you could go into a McDonald's, in order like a mic rib or something like that. Like the weird consumer shit is kind of, it's like weird that that's all we have. Because like, I mean, much has been said about like black Americans,

like losing their identities to like, in like slavery and stuff. But the same is true of like everybody in America too. I mean, it's just that didn't even like endure like chattel slavery. It's like we're all divorced from, we're all sort of alienated from like our history, our lineage, all that kind of stuff. And like the grand bargain was that we got to.

embrace onto this thing like called America or whatever, where everybody's got a chance to succeed and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then in the end, we have a chance to bring the McRib back another time. And that's kind of where it stops. Compare that to the Iranians who have like, who have been algebra. You know what I mean? Like that, like, actually contributed to mankind in some like very many ways. Yeah.

And I'm not saying there hasn't been American moments where we've not done that, but there's just no comparison. And it's like, what are we dying for, this client state that basically just is us? Like, we just got to quit making that differentiation. Israel is just like America. They need to rename this America and Israel in the style of Trinidad and Tobago

after this is all seven times. But like, it's just so hollow when you, like, just put in comparison to it. You know what I mean? I am reminded routinely of the line in sopranos that I think just fucking nels it, is you Americans expect nothing bad to ever happen to you. And I think that, like, Brett,

Brett is the embodiment of that. It's like they, they cannot countenance, and as a result, they cannot countenance like this imperial aggression or like this sort of colonial raping and pillaging and conquest. Because, you know, America's pretty isolated geographically, and it's managed to establish, like, a global trade network that would allow it a degree of buffer

between various hostile actors. But Mark, my fucking words, the only way this really ends, maybe I'm just doing it. Maybe this is just a bit, I'll just be proven wrong. Iran might be able to force Israel into a full-on fucking collapse.

But in my opinion, if we're doing realistic scenarios and the way this ends, I really genuinely think that this really ends with Israel going to war with mainland America, the Israel part of Israel and America

going to war with the mainland part of Israel and America because it's the only, it's the only ideological force that could actually fill an army. It's like, it's, right-wing MAGA is too kind of incoherent, it's too driven by petty grievances and like these amorphous, you know, annoyances and stuff to really be able to fill an army that would withstand,

And, like, dude, for example, just like at Minneapolis, you know what I'm saying? Like, they were able to basically, you know, I know they're still deporting people. They're still terrorizing people in places. But, like, they don't have the ideological cohesion that a society and army like the IDF in Israel has. So I just think on a long enough timeline, that thing, like, Americans expect nothing bad to ever happen to you. That will invert. And in my opinion, the only force that could do that would be Israel. Well, dude, we would get whipped willingly.

Like, we would cheer while they're kicking our asses, you know what I mean. Dude, you know, like in reading, you know, that, that hedges thing on like the world moving away from the dollar is the reserve currency. Like he talks about, like, how that played out in England, you know, and like how long that whole process took and everything. And the forecast, if that happens in America, like, it would launch us into a depression for like a pretty extended amount of times. something that we're not like, well, I guess we're certainly more accustomed to these days, but like, you know, like historically hadn't been precedented here. Like, I don't know how America would stay together without its hegemony in its way because it's so much a part of the national story. Yeah. You know, even though, even if it wasn't really founded that way,

you know, I mean, like, it's just, I don't, I don't know. It would, it would be such an identity crisis and it would be not and you would have all this financial hardship on top but people are already having trouble with it right now and we're still holding on granted by a thread to that hegemony but like it's but that but the narrative's starting to come apart you see that you know yeah it is it is certainly um the case that the identity of whatever that is is um it is more in crisis and more in question than it ever has been before. And it's just kind of like short-circuiting. It's just, you daily just go out there and just see Trump.

In a mode, I've never seen him in. Just like straight up, like him saying, like, oh, I expected the price oil to go down. The way he said it too was, like, clearly someone who's just like, you know, goading you along to just buy some time. And I don't know. I don't know how that ends. I mean, just to give you a sense of, like, the breathlessness, though,

of a person like Brett Stevens. He says, for all it's admitted dangers, it gives Iran's people their best chance of winning their freedom. Not bad for a one-month war, its critics warned

would be another Iraq. I just ran some numbers, by the way, and this is assuming spending state for this war stays at the same rate. If it goes on for 15 years like Afghanistan did,

Afghanistan costs $3 trillion over 15 years. This is on pace to cost about 60 trillion. Jesus Christ. Like if it stays at current levels. So, you know, I lived during that time. There were a lot of people that thought Iraq was going to be an in-and-out thing too.

And, yeah. I mean, it's just that when they assume that it'll be over quickly, do you not think that Iran is a country full of people with the political, military class that has specific aims? Like, well, you know what I mean? Like, what do you think this is? Do you think this is a battleship, like, a borderline? game.

Yeah. We can just knock the pieces over and claim victory. Like, I don't understand. Yeah. It's, it's kind of like they're hubris running smack dab into the limitations of, like I said before, like what neoliberalism as a governing ideology would do to a set of leaders. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's made them completely arrogant and hubristic, but also hollow, also just stupid.

Like, that really can't be discounted. Like, they're just fucking stupid. And that is genuinely a result of an economy that, like, the money is so good and the way of making it is so sort of easy and shrewd and ruthless. It doesn't require a ton of smarts. In fact, just requires, like, a bunch of starting capital that, like, you know, you can either get through your own ability to bullshit or just through your parents. M percent with low barrier.

Yeah. Right. It's repetition and maneuverability. When I was growing up, the fake jobs that rich kids had, they would all say they were consult. They worked in consulting. Now they're all crypto traders or they're all like whatever the latest sort of like sort of quasi legitimate, you know, cryptocurrency mechanism, trading mechanisms are or whatever. It's such a weird thing. There's literally, there is literally, in an encounter to Brett, there's literally one path forward. for America that doesn't end in total collapse and cataclysm.

And that is you're going to, for starters, there's going to have to be some sort of truth and reconciliation about America's many crimes in our entire history. And I'm not talking like, woke period thing. I'm talking like the president of the United States saying, like, we have fought these wars of aggression and da-da-da, there's going to have to be some sort of big, big gesture, not just hollow like we're sitting, listening, learning kind of thing, okay? And then we're just going to have to embrace the moment. multipolar world because if we continue doing business like this, we're already on pace to like

lose our hegemony and end up in the much lower powerful position. Our only chance at really surviving in any meaningful way when not becoming a world pariah is to have that truth and reconciliation and embrace the multipolar world and throw ourselves in the mercy of these people we fucked over and murdered their families and stuff. There's no other way forward. There is no tactical military thing? No, it's like, we're going to have to accept and take accountability for the real evil we've done in destruction

we've caused in the world. And that's it. And to ourselves. I mean, genuinely, if you're talking about that shame and transcending it and if you're talking about, like, narratively speaking, like just what is a reasonable outcome, you're going to need at least

300, you're going to need at least 300 souls you're going to have to harvest. You know what I'm saying? from the ruling class. You need at least two to three hundred. Yeah, that's the most important part of this is like you're going to turn Stephen Miller into a pinata and at least. No, yeah, as a ritual, as a ritual for national regeneration, you're going to need blood.

I know, I don't mean that like as an epic like Twitter guillotine thing. I mean like symbolically and viscerally and ritually. There has to be an absolute. At the very least, these people are going to have to be bound and thrown in a dungeon. Yeah. for the reminder of their days. Yes, you need some sort of consecration or an absolution, right, Aaron.

Like something that would like bind you to the new path that you have forged. You know what I'm saying? And to show the world we're serious. It's like, here, listen, we don't like Jared Kushner either. Take him.

Who'd you want with that? It's like that Kafka short story in the penal colony. Yeah. Where someone's crimes are inscribed on their skin with a needle until they eventually bleed out. Like we need to create a contraption for these people specifically to sacrifice them too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Just saying that's just the only way that you do it. I don't know that it will happen. As Tom said earlier, the Americans, the American's ability to just be like, all right, cool, I'm good with that. It's unmatched. Unmatched.

Unmatched. It is. One last thing I will say, the sort of dichotomy or disparity between people like Brett Stevens writing about this, I forgot who else last week, who said how this could be good, what Trump is doing is actually good for America. But just the disparity between that sort of political, political class, punditry class cheering this on, even people who claim they're never Trumpers, you know. Yeah. Versus the majority of Americans in the way they feel and the fact that this is still in this third week, you know, no wonder people are feeling nihilistic, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. And that they can't affect any change. Right. Well, if you're listening to this program, you can. You can affect change. It will require human wave attacks on the White House. It will require 300 soul. It will require the harvesting of, I'm just setting the number of 300, because that just

sounds appropriate to me. That's a number sacred to a lot of Chuds, too, because... Yeah. It is. It is. Well, just... Okay, we'll do it 350. Because there's 350 million Americans, and that means forever million Americans, there's a soul... You get one that you get to send to an Iranian prison.

Oh, well, okay. No, I'm saying those are for us. I'm saying the 350 are for us. Oh, we're not even talking about the people. We're going to, like, hand over. No, those people are going to be charged. closing out. For us, it'll be like a soul drive. Yeah, those, they'll probably either

take the sword out themselves or, you know, let other, the masses. I'm saying, like, like, you need, like, a wedding ring to consecrate the compact you've made, you have to have, like, 350 souls to, like, this is the blood. And I want my souls.

Al no rain, boys. These are the souls we have purchased our new society with, right? And they all have to be tethered to each other, like the human centipede. Or maybe bound it up Like a human rubber ball, you know, the rubber band ball. I don't know if it needs to be dramatic or anything. I'm just saying, maybe I'm feeling very Catholic these days.

But, you know, there's the blood, and you bathe in the blood, and you know, you ingest it and it's gone, right? It's like you've consecrated yourself and your body to do the spirit, okay? So, like, that's all I'm saying. You're doing the anti-Bryon Johnson here. The reverse Brian Johnson. Where's Brian Johnson with the blood of the elite indeed? All right, I got to go. But thanks for listening this week, everybody.

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