Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 44: Trillbilly Therapy Party

Episode Date: March 30, 2018

We recorded this before the infamous last minute teachers' pension vote in the Kentucky General Assembly. But it's probably pretty good context for what's going on in the state overall.

That is pretty dark. But is it different mine? What? Is it different mine? Yeah. His is in Everts. This was in Cumberland. But they've got another operation near Pine Mountain Settlement School where I grew up.

It was like around Green Hills, the school over there. Uh-huh. By Pine Mountain Settlement School. Uh-huh. By Pine Mountain Summer School? Mm-hmm. Damn. Green Hills is the elementary school over there. Man, turn these up. You went to Green Hills?

You did? No, I didn't. Oh. That's where bad kids went. I was good as gold, honey. Bad kids here went to Oneida Baptist. Well, the real bad kids... If you were a little bad, you went to Green Hills baptist well real the real bad if you were a little bad you went to green hills if you were real fucking bad you went to redbird mission

you went to redbird mission let me tell you we played i don't know why we scheduled them but every year uh our tennis coach i think went to oneida he was like an oneida alumnus, so he would schedule them every year. And they were like, I mean, just like the most crazy group of kids. They were like these Haitian kids from Miami that came up. I mean, it's like a reform school. Was it like a military school or something? Kind of. It's not a military school, but it's like worse. Yeah.

Even worse. But same concept. It's like kids get into some trouble or whatever, they send them to a military school. Yeah. Even worse. But same concept. It's like to. Yeah. Kids get into some trouble or whatever they send them to. Right. They had one of those near where I grew up, the New Mexico Military Institute, NIMI. Owen Wilson went there. Really? Yeah.

Really? Yeah. His parents like sent him there. God damn. Because I guess his family's from Austin, but he like got in a bunch of trouble and had to go to NIMI. I know a few kids that went to NIMI. It was that place you never wanted to go. Oh yeah, I know a few too. You don't want to be a NIMI. You don't want to be a NIMI. I know a few kids that went to NIMBY. It was that place you never wanted to go.

Oh, yeah, I knew a few, too. You don't want to be a NIMBY. You don't want to be a NIMBY. They shave your head and treat you like shit. Well, I know a couple who got knocked up and sent to Redbird, and they had to fulfill their – Oh. They had their babies there, and then supposedly no one was the wiser when they returned back

to Bell County that they had had a baby. back to Bell County that they had had a baby. Whoa. So they secretly, they were like secreted off and had a baby. Yeah. And honestly. And just came back like, no. I think they sent them there to put them on like nun watch so they can't get an abortion.

Oh my god. You're probably right. That's crazy. And then these other girls just fought too much they got sent there yeah did you ever get in a fight in high school or anything i fought a boy one time and i broke a girl's nose playing softball one time that was but um but never in like a hallway like a throwing somebody against the locker got hit one time from breaking

something up yeah collateral damage i think it's funny when teachers try to break up fights yeah i saw a teacher one time pour a whole like big big gulp on a two kids fighting and they didn't stop fighting like that what did you what made you think that was gonna work i did get in a bad fist fight with my sister. My freshman year of college. She was still in high school. Really? Yeah, my boyfriend had to pull us apart.

Damn. It was really bad. And I shouldn't even tell this on myself because it's so embarrassing. It's like my girlfriend's birthday. Don't we have one of them goddamn robe golds over there? Yeah, I'm stress eating pretzels right now. I brought you good whiskey. Switch me out for a little bit.

Whiskey and pretzels right now. I brought you good whiskey. Switch me out for a little bit. Whiskey and pretzels. Fueled. It was, yeah, she was coming out at the time to my mom in various ways. And I found out

she was dating my pill dealer. That's a conflict of interest. We got in a bad fight about it. That's right. I knew this girl was bad fucking news. Yeah. Damn. That's right. I knew this girl was bad fucking news. Yeah. Damn.

That's the girl. I think I've already told you this. That's the girl I said I was going to cut like a deer. Yeah. You think you would have done it? No.

What if you've been on an appeal? I'm a fighter. It feels like sometimes though when you're in the moment of something you can really channel

like a I do go red sometimes. I mean i had a boyfriend we used to fight go fisticuffs oh yeah physical oh yeah physical one boyfriend yeah and then uh one time i threw all of his stuff out of a 10-story window oh fuck that. Yeah, that was peak. I was peak problematic them days. I would say that's pretty cool. I mean, I threw all his textbooks, all his clothes, breakables. People were just gathering around in the parking lot like, what the fuck? That was at EKU. Wow.

I imagine it came in in the Henry Hill voice. Oh, yeah. We got in a fight in the hallway of the dorm one time, and my friends had to break it up. Wow. You fucking played too much, Tonya. You played too fucking much. But that's the only part. It's a fucking problem.

I learned a lot then about myself. We can't eat on this podcast. I'm sorry. The crunching. You must hold your mic way out here. I can't eat on this podcast i'm sorry the crunching you must hold your mic way out here i can't do it anytime anybody eats on a it's like a i have a reverse as asmr thing it's like i hear it and it's like why explain that to me i don't know i think it's like people get uh sort of is it that they get horny from a certain sound? That's what someone just explained to me. They were like, yeah, it's like an orgasm.

Someone just said to me, do you tingle all over your body when someone scratches your head? And I was like, what? That's how they put it. I watched a video one time, because Matt is into these videos. He's really into hydraulic press videos

and videos where people throw shit into like meat grinders or some wood chippers i don't know we watched this one where he put someone threw a bunch of batteries into like a grinder type thing and just the sound it made absolutely absolutely wore it. I just can't explain it. It's disgusting. But I was told that if I had ASMR, I'd be really into it. I guess I don't have it. Because you're very sensitive to sounds or something? I don't know.

Anyway, then they showed me videos of this, just like, people just like with their hands in like slime and stuff. I don't get it. I don't know. Do you have some kind of reaction to this, Tom? You don't want to know my reaction. No, I'm not joking.

You don't like it? I don't have an opinion about it. Yeah, it doesn't, don't do it for me. You know what always bothered me? Stickers. Oh. I hate when kids like people

come and put stickers on you. I don't like stickers either. It would fuck me up for some reason. I hated that. I thought they were gross. The worst thing is when you buy a CD and you try to take that top sticker thing off. You know, that would have the name. Oh, yeah.

And it would... That does kind of drop extra. It looks sticky behind. Or when you buy a book and it has a price tag on the back and you try to peel it off. I hate that. That shit is awful. I am sensitive to smells. Growing up, crayons would make me sick.

If I had to smell crayons too long, I'd get sick. Really? Yeah. And erasers. The smell of an eraser, if you go at an eraser for a long time, that would make me real sick. It kind of smells like a possum.

I mean, a skunk. Don't you think erasers kind of smell like skunks? Yeah. I have no recollection of what an eraser smells like. Never thought of it. You like really go at it. Trying to erase your whole life. Stay here for a while.

I was just thinking of getting into a fight or something of that nature and how sometimes you can sort of access this whole other dimension of strength or whatever. Do you think any mother has ever lifted a car off their child? No. Do you think that's ever happened? I don't know. I want to believe it has, but i don't think it has well when i was like a toddler and my mom was pregnant with my sisters she left me in the van and went

into to a yard sale like she was just like stepping away from the car the yard sale was like right there and i got hit the van in to drive yeah and she ran down the van and jumped in and stopped it pregnant with twins well she likes to tell that that's that's pretty cool that's pretty cool what are the rules on running while pregnant i'm sure it's fine i saw a ad the other day that was like if you exercise twice a week while pregnant that's good and it had this really pregnant woman running with like barbells in each hand everyone should exercise exercise possibly. Is that good? Pregnant or otherwise. Yeah. I think everyone needs that.

Yeah, it's probably good. It'd be fun in the womb, I guess. Wear you out. It would really wear you out. How'd it go last night? Went pretty well. Good. Yeah, no, I thought it went good. Me and Tom learned a lot.

About country secrets? Yeah. We didn't delve in as much as we should have. But we will next time. He wrote me a nice email today. He was like, do you want to do it again? I saw that.

It was fun. Did want to do it again? I saw that. Okay. Yeah, it was fun. Did you have a good evening? No. What'd you do? Well, I had a call at seven. By the end of that, I cleaned house. Then I watched Jessica Jones.

Yeah. Calls at night. They fuck me up. I don't like it. It really sucks. Then they make it glamorous. It's all working people you know fuck that my working people need to be in a hot bathtub seriously it's seven o'clock damn o'clock why is that that's just your level of commitment to the movement though but also the first like 20 minutes were ended up this is not what the call was about but so many people on the call had been at frankfort

at the capitol that day they ended up just like venting about the capitol because yesterday was total fuckery what happened state capitol yesterday because they passed all those bills yeah they've they they heard and pat they they passed the bill um about gang violence yeah i actually have a list here of several things i want to read off that they passed off because yesterday was hot hell if you read this it is fucking crazy kentucky state capitol's burning i i did an interview this morning with harold leader they never put anything out but i was just like about this bill no it was about something else but i kept talking about the Capitol. I was like, is she? Because even the fucking Herald.

I don't want to get into all this. But even the fucking Herald leader was like, so you're down in Eastern Kentucky. You must really be struggling with all the, how'd she say it? All the division down there. And I was like. Division? You know, Linda, what's actually difficult down here is that everyone wants the same shit. But the national narrative is that we're all loony and can't agree on anything.

But we actually all want clean water, a living wage, health care, fucking education we care to send our kids to school for. is uh all i said where the contradictions arise are all these half-assed politicians that are in office that have paid their way into elected uh seats that are giving us contradictory uh solutions constantly that's all we get like the contradiction is actually in us not knowing how to get where we go right and half of us are like well he said all we can get to prison so what do you know okay he they said enough for me they said you know i mean people you want to trust these motherfuckers you do and we deserve to be able to have we we deserve elected people we can trust for god's sake right yeah um thank you linda for that uh hot, for that question, that softball.

Did you just swig some whiskey after you told her that? I wish. That was at 8.30 this morning. Also, don't call me before 9 o'clock again. Yeah, that's pretty bad. What were people saying about the Capitol? Like, are they... That they straight up Capitol Police come in there like the fucking military and tried to, like, body people over signs come in there like the fucking military. Yeah.

And tried to, like, body people over signs. Jack-booted thugs. Literally. Jesus Christ. How many people were there yesterday? I don't know, but they said that the, like, room where they were hearing testimony was packed. Yeah. Well, listen to this.

And the military, fucking Capitol Police, come in there and threaten to fucking floor everybody if they didn't pass up their signs speaking of that speaking of military uh did you so um i think it was last week me and tom on the podcast were talking about how this bridge off of route seven perkins branch or whatever you know which one i'm talking about rock Rockhouse Creek. The bridge was washed away during the flood. National Guard brought a new one in and then took it out. Well, the makeshift bridge that they put was washed away again this past weekend.

That's crazy. What? That wouldn't have happened if the fucking National Guard just would have built a fucking bridge. Unconscionable. Unconscionable, exactly would have built a fucking bridge. It is unconscionable. Unconscionable, exactly. But they delivered a bridge and spent the energy removing it

because the county couldn't pay for it. Why do we have a National Guard? It's insane. It's so, so insane. i'm so glad you brought whiskey i'm in such a way it is really really bad um but all that to say um if anybody remotely connected that situation can hear this you should be ashamed of yourself because that fucking bridge washed away and those people are stranded again i I don't know if people realize this, but when you get stranded in a holler,

you're literally stranded. And the sun don't shine. You can't get to the other side because of water. I mean, you can walk or swim. Imagine crossing a moat, but instead of crocodiles, it's used needles. Yes.

Yeah. We cannot. Yeah. You can't drive. This is a slippery slope into poverty porn. Oh, baby. It's just the reality, though. It's the reality.

We are satirizing our fucked up situation. I say that. I live on a ridge. We'll call this episode Dapper Trees. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. Oh my god. Alright, so that's just a tiny micro glimpse into

what's going on right now. But yeah, let's run down the gamut. House Bill 169 which would broaden the definition keep in mind that we i was doing the reading on this and we might actually fall in the guidelines of what you could consider a gang under this bill which would broaden the definition of criminal gangs give longer prison sentences to those labeled as gang members and increase penalties for gang recruiting. A gang would be defined as, quote, a group of at least three people with a common name,

identifying hand signal, symbol, location, leader, or color of clothing. Oh, my God. We have to start dressing a lot so we can be considered a gang under Kentucky statutes. I think we already are. Yeah, it sounds like we're there. Any given day, we could all show up in a denim jacket. Could we not? Yep, the DSA uniform.

And there's some other qualifications here that I think we might meet. In order to qualify as a gang, group would had to have at least three members who have committed or attempted not not done it and been indicted where how do you how do you how do you gauge that attempted to commit two felonies each and uh and then there was another one for misdemeanors meanwhile the state is likely to run out of space to house prisoners by may 2019 this was this so this time next year this was in a report by like um a head of an agency a criminal justice agency in kentucky in the cabinet it's so bad i mean all jokes it is yeah it's this is it's absolutely insane it's so sick i just oh yeah it passed with a 77 to 14 vote and they apparently they had a ton of testimony

against the bill people were like yeah this will literally destroy neighborhoods yeah that's what their intent is and they literally talked talked to them especially i'm pretty sure the louisville urban league was one of the main fucking people there it was and we're like there's all there are all kinds of proven prevention measures none of them are in this bill well none of this is proven to nothing in this bill has ever curbed gang violence ever anywhere. Well, one of the people quoted in this article that I was reading was talking about how anytime you see any investment in a community, it's in the form of prisons and police. And that's what this will result in more. And the entire 2017 state budget. I don't even know if we have a 2018 state budget yet.

But in our, maybe we do. But in the entire 2017, there were only two areas that received more revenue. Like an increase, and it was corrections. And I can't remember the other one but every other area in the state of kentucky every in the state budget was cut at least a little bit the only area of growth was corrections okay wow um what does that i mean we gotta talk about this this is top we already already we know that what uh what's the stat kentucky if it were its own country would be the seventh have the seventh largest prison population in the world

as a standalone country yeah well it's it's uh it goes back and i and i do think that there is a common thread you can you can thread here between a bridge you know like the national guard demanding armed guards around it at all times taking it away. Does this new gang statute mean we gotta report the National Guard when they show back up to build the bridge? Yeah, okay. They check all the boxes.

Yeah, that's true. I mean, I hate to sound ignorant, because I know I don't live in Louisville, but I love Louisville. I spend a lot of time in Louisville. Is there gang activity actually fucking up Louisville in Louisville? No, I think across the board, in all cities apparently, crime has gone drastically down in the last 20 years. Yeah, like what?

Are gangs fucking up Louisville right now? It's all a ploy to keep these people in power. We know crime is just is plummeting nationwide but incarceration continues to and we also know crime the literal word as a hot word that democrats and republicans alike have used throughout the history of um yeah yeah and it's uh what it is is it's the um with everything else it's just the expansion of the police state um i had a tweet not too long ago that was like the way that conservatives bridge the like cognitively the way that they can bridge like a society in which capitalism slowly erodes all family values and you know

and all community values is with the police state and i think that that's why you get a 77 14 vote on something like that jesus you you tweeted that yourself? That was all me, baby. I'm quoting myself now. We're quoting our own tweets now. Jesus. We are that self-important. Okay, moving on. Oh, God.

The Kentucky House passed a bill that would require sex ed classes in public schools to include abstinence education. I'm sorry, that one was a 77-14 vote. I don't know what the actual vote on the other one was. But that's pretty absurd. Abstinence education. That one was a 77 to 14 vote. I don't know what the actual vote on the other one was. But that's pretty absurd. Abstinence education. This comes the same week

I don't care to put them on blast that Southeast Kentucky Community and Technical College, the Cumberland campus, fucking cancelled my sex ed. Did they really? Two days before they pulled it. They wouldn't allow the college to do any promotion and they came to me they came to me that's fucking bullshit and then somehow they

got into a inner battle i mean the girl was just a nervous wreck trying to talk to me about it and i was like it's cool man this ain't my first rodeo like i get it let's try to let's let's postpone it and maybe that'll give you some time to talk i'm happy to come over and talk to someone about it we can call it whatever we want. We don't have to call it sexy sex ed. I've called it other things before. I don't fucking care. We can call it fucking cooking class.

I don't give a fuck. Yeah, and in a way it is, you know. Whatever. But yeah, they canceled me this week. So I was supposed to do a sex ed tomorrow on the community college campus and rug got ripped out from under me so big week for um sex ed in Kentucky yeah yeah yeah I mean granted I guess my sex ed did have abstinence and look how great I turned out I mean honestly this is this field didn't shock me because I thought it already did. I thought the state, well, what the state law actually, I've tried to understand the state law around sex ed because I'm trying to figure out how to make sex ed better in the state.

But I'm pretty sure that currently, before this, it was pretty lax and it left it mostly to the district. Like districts could decide what their sex ed looked like. Right. And there weren't a ton of requirements around it. Yeah. Well, now I guess they want to put it in the law which is this is another this is another time spent completely wasted on like so this the list of needs in the great in this great commonwealth are so many so many and the fact that we are spending

you know the lrc who are tax our taxes pay spit i'm sure weeks researching this drafting language passing it around the capital right right just the fact that it so it was um people labored over this seriously Seriously. Actual labor was. It is the sickest waste. I know I hate to sound like a fucker. This waste of taxpayer money. I sound like a fucking libertarian. But it's like the waste of human potential in this shit is another piece of it that is so hard to reckon with. It's like we need so many things.

And all we do is walk backwards. and we have so far to go. Right. Yeah, it's pretty bad. And then they're literal backstrokes. Yeah. They passed a bill that would make the biggest changes to the workers' comp system in more than 20 years. A key part of the bill would put time limits on benefits for some injured workers. That was just absurd.

I'm setting all this up for a specific point I'm going to make. And then they passed, actually, I don't know. Now that I think about it, I don't think my point would work. And then they passed a bill that would ban abortion after 11 weeks. That one will definitely get challenged. You think? And again, of all the things the ACLU has to do, now they're having to squirrel around in that Louisville office

and figure out all the fucking lawyers that are going to sue the state of Kentucky. Well, which brings us to... Who wants it this year? Which brings us to the Calvary. There is a Calvary. I'm sure you all saw the article this week I'm talking about. And it actually isn't... Motherfucking Elwood.

Motherfucking Cornet. That's not the one I was talking about. I hope. Do what? What happened? I was getting ready to get my bugle out. Signal the help was coming. Well, there was an article on NBC about the prison they want to build in Letcher County.

Yeah, there was. And that one was pretty absurd. What did you say Tom about the video I didn't even watch the video on it oh was there a video? but it has a funny video on it we should cue the video up and chop it in here just to do like the

because there's such a dramatic uh chord change there's like these like somber licks like we're giving a god damn altar call and then all of a sudden it goes when it flashes to Elwood, he's doing one of these. Then the Renegade Outlaw acoustic kicks up. Right.

He's the Calvary. Like he's going to kick somebody's ass. Are you kidding me? No. He is 105 years old. He looks like a skeleton. You know, apparently he is in the

Smithsonian for his singing. He is. He's like a harp singer. Fucking Leon drank my goddamn water. All of it? Or you just don't like drinking after him? I just don't like drinking after him. Come on, Leon.

He disrespects me. He's just like, fuck you. Now he's gonna spit it all out in my shoe. He just come over licking on my shoe. The article I was

thinking of specifically was the one about Matt Jones in Politico. Oh, that's the Calvary. Yeah. Sorry. No, but you're right because I did want to talk about that that

nbc article about the prison which everybody should check out because it's like free press for the prison i mean it's like totally i know and then they like interviewed one person against it our friend who they made sound like a nutcase apparently and just like she was like she was all tore up about it it's like it's weird this is why people they this is literally why people are so scared to speak out or like say anything because then the mbc comes in to make you out to be a fucking nutcase right and the timing of that the timing of it was very was very curious because of the budget poster oh yeah because it's been forever. Like she

said, this has been six months since they did these interviews and she was like, I figured they weren't going to do it. They've been sitting on this egg. Sons of bitches. Yeah. Fuck NBC. So yeah, so then there was that and then WYMT ran a story about it, which I had my own rant

against WYMT last week. Let's talk about WYMT a little bit. Literally, the first line says a project that will bring jobs. Does no questioning or interrogation. This is a fucking Emmy award winning news station.

The last time they did any amount of investigative journalism, we were not alive. none of us were alive on the earth the last time any investigative journalism happened out of wymt i'm glad they didn't by the time i was running for office a lot of these little news affiliates corporate news outlet affiliates or whatever there's they are so reactionary and it's like we talked about that last week there's sort of deference to the coal industry and it's the same thing here their difference to congressman hal rogers

but then i posted a thing today that you see that this little local news affiliate wave in louisville waving yeah wave ain't little it's cbs they fucking as mbc mbc affiliate they uh they did one on um they fucking went undercover oh my god buying crack cocaine smoking kids um in like the west part of the west side of louisville perhaps i think um the poorer part of louisville i'll put it that way and it's just like um you know it's sort of like we were talking about last week it's like how how do you identify who the villains in society are seriously if you identify it as drug users and addicts and and poor people you're a fascist if and and if you are aiding that system and system of thought and the police in your sort

of journalism you're fascist it's just it's it's the most pitiful it's the most embarrassing thing i've ever seen it's fucking pathetic it is embarrassing and it's just like uh it's demoralizing it's just like why are you well a lot of people get their news from those sources you know like there is no alternative really i mean it's when okay recently i mean it wasn't about a year ago the hazard perry county, just 30 minutes down the road, declared that they were going to focus a bunch more energy on cracking down on people pawning pop. Literally, Coca-Cola. People buying pop with their... Soda dope.

Remember when we were in Wendy's one time and we heard somebody say soda dope? Yeah, they their soda dope when we were in wendy's one time and somebody uh we heard somebody say soda dope yeah that's old school yeah somebody taking their soda dope buying soda dope with food stamps and taking it to the pawn shop it's or to the poker house right and it's just like this these are literal crumbs like you are you are under the kitchen table right now under the fucking wood of the house scooting crumbs around trying to investigate who stole what crumb yeah yeah what rat moved what crumb from whose plate you're right you're absolutely right meanwhile they're shooting people with impunity yeah yeah they have they're running scott free on paid leave getting bonuses yeah what i mean we've they even i mean there's a name for white collar crime right but there are books about it and their resources

of journal is you know in a in like media landscape where few and fewer outlets have any resources at all the few resources you do use are fucking ratting out uh people who sell devices to smoke paraphernalia to smoke crack with. This is like. People who have been served such a shit hand in this shit world. Yeah. That the highest, that that's the highest they can get. Right.

Someone pointed out on Facebook when I saw the article that these kits that are sold actually in some ways could promote. I mean, I have no idea, but they say that it could be like sort of like a needle exchange type in some ways could promote, I mean I have no idea, but they say that it could be sort of like a needle exchange type program by making sure that those things are available to drug users. It actually might promote spreading of disease, or I'm sorry, prohibit the spreading of diseases. Inhibit the spreading of diseases.

I never can get those words right. What's the difference between prohibit and inhibit? Who knows or cares? Say it again with another word. Use this in a sentence. Somebody said that it was maybe more hygienic to have access and availability to

this kind of paraphernalia rather than reusing shit that they have of course this is the whole race this is the whole premise behind a needle a clean needle exchange it's the same sort of idea behind yeah right yeah which i will say that uh we spent the better part of two years pushing our county to open a clean needle exchange. They finally voted for it. The health department has drug their feet. Last I heard, I heard him one month ago.

I talked to them about it. Because I've been like wide on rice on these motherfuckers about this. And they said it was opening in April. And I have emailed the woman. I got her card. I've emailed her three times to try to record a psa to let people know when this motherfucker is going to open and what the hours are going to be yeah will not return my emails will not communicate with me and i'm just like yeah what what is this service if we're not

going to let people know what it is it's like they're scared for anyone to know there's a clean needle exchange right what good is it the whole thing this is what they want to open this clean needle exchange run it for a few weeks and say no one come to no one came to it and they can't yeah and defund it and they can't literally they can't legitimize keeping it open if no one's going to use it it's like no one fucking knows about it yeah that in charleston west virginia they're like putting did y'all see that the the city council there i think voted to put all these insane restrictions on it. Yeah, I saw that. Where you'd have to have an ID and you'd have to show one to the cops.

Fuck that. That's actually dangerous. Don't fucking go. Yeah, you don't want to fucking exchange your needles where there's cops. We might just have to start our own needle exchange here. Seriously. We might just buy up a bunch and send them out.

I'm telling you. I literally, a year ago, I got pre-approved for a home loan because i thought about buying a house so i could open my own clinic for this for these very reasons yeah literally that's would be it would be illegal fully and i don't fucking care i didn't want to tell you that at the time i wanted to i wanted you to you know i was about to open the pine creek fucking clinic in the back of my mind I was like There's no way she could do that I was like I know some of the DYNs

They give a Saturday a month Come up here and perform three abortions I could do this I could run a halfway house I have three bedrooms The spirals that I have been on Oh wow I mean it's true

It's just like It just keeps feeling like yeah one step forward and three steps back yeah anyway why don't you walk march for something boys all we do is complain i do want to be the david hogg of some cause that's all he's been saying the past 24 hours i just really like saying david hogg's name you said something to me earlier about uh our uh you sent me a screenshot earlier with the um what did it say tom wait tell me who he is remind me you know the the kid he said our day he said our patreon is going david hog wild he's the kid the park one of the parkland scenes oh gotcha gotcha not emma not emma emma's emma's

buddy david hog wild hog you know that's an eastern kentucky name yeah you know that's an Eastern Kentucky name. Yeah, it is. It's with two Gs. Yeah, it's two Gs. Oh, yeah. He knows. I'm not sure. But we get David Hogg on this podcast. I love it. I want Emma. Fuck David.

I want Emma. I'm just wanting to get his name. But we can go find a guy named Hogg and get him on the show. We are in Letcher County. I guarantee there's a David Hogg in Letcher County. There's 12 David Hoggs. the show. 12 David Hoggs. Let's do that. We'll add him on Twitter.

Let's go find our own David Hogg. Let's go get 12 David Hoggs and have them all on the show. And we'll add the legit David Hogg on Twitter and be like, can't wait to have David on the show. Oh, fuck. Okay.

Get us back on track here. That's only funny because you have a literal legal pad out there. I have a legal pad. He has a legal pad. You look like you're investigating a mine right now. And by the way, there's a Revelation mine in Harlan County that needs to be investigated right now, please. And thank you. All right.

I'll take my yellow legal pad down there. Please take your legal pad over there. So I read the full article today on Matt Jones. And for those of you who don't know in our listening audience, Matt Jones is a guy who runs Kentucky Sports Radio, correct? Yeah. And an insanely popular sports talk show. It was a blog for a number of years.

He worked for CBS for a time. There's an official green sign in my home county that says Bell County, home of Matt Jones. Hometown hero or some shit like that. We're from the same county. I think he made his name in politics by being very adversarial to Mitch McConnell a few years ago. hometown hero or some shit like that yeah we're from the same county um and you know and he's you

know i think he kind of made his name in politics by being very adversarial to mitch mcconnell a few years ago and why right right um and and honestly i didn't think the article was that bad and and um in in some ways like i do agree with honest obviously i agree with a lot of the things that he agrees in um but I don't know I guess I'm just sort of like I feel weird about um sort of holding him up as like a new face of the Democratic Party in Kentucky and the only reason I say that is because like i don't even know if that should be something that we're even invested in um like electoral politics i guess i mean like i guess what i'm saying is that like it would be not if he runs against mr mcconnell sure i'll probably vote for him but but to put that is that like the like the furthest reach of our sort of political horizons seems to me to to indicate a lack of political imagination i completely agree and another thing i'll add to that is um you know remember when he and adam edelin who used to be the state auditor started

this new kentucky yeah thing and it talks a little bit about this in the article. I mean, what's the name of the article itself is, what brings this liberal sports radio host thinks he can take down Mitch McConnell? Even Angie Hatton was into this shit, this new Kentucky shit. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it seemed like something to sort of capture. Like, you know, I think they started out trying to offer an earnest alternative, but I think what it turned into is like, I remember one phrase that they used is,

we could even start a moderate movement. Yeah, totally. They were billing it as this middle-of-the-road bullshit, like, you don't have to pick a side. Ride the fucking fence. Yeah. Yeah, sounds great. Well, and that's the danger of...

Like, we didn't already know that. That's the danger of the Doug Jones and the Conor Lamb types, too, right? It's like, the Democrats eke out some electoral victories in places where they think, you know, like Western PA or Alabama, where they think they shouldn't be doing that. And then they think that's a viable strategy going forward because they, like, you know, caught lightning in a bottle twice. Yeah. You know, but that's not, I think, a viable long-term strategy because, well, for obvious reasons.

I mean, Doug Jones has kind of been a severe disappointment so far in Alabama. I don't know what Conor's up to, but by all indications, he seems to be kind of, you know, straddling that fence and saying some weird pro-Trump stuff and, like, refusing to take questions from the media. Well, I hate to be this way,

but they're still just white dudes. They still just have a single fucking perspective on the world and we're just shuffling around the same fucking balding bitches all the time it's just well in um you know matt jones is kind of like on the liberal uh i would say that from all i can tell he's sort of more on the bern I would say that from all I can tell, he's sort of more on the Bernie end of that spectrum. But I guess... Well, he called himself a populist, right? He said he was bullish on union rights.

Yeah, but then followed up with a curious statement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was pro-free trade. Pro-free trade, which was kind of weird. And in favor of, if I'm not mistaken, lowering corporate taxes. No, I don't think he is. How much lower could they be? The way the article was worded.

I mean, I could be wrong about that. I don't know. I don't know. But the point being, I think the point I'm... The question I have is, you know, you have a sort of state government that is passing all the things that I just listed off. And Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul's seats are... They're tied into that in some way because they are a part of the state power structure,

even though they spend most of their time in D.C. or whatever. they are a part of the state power structure even though they spend most of their time in dc or whatever they are emblematic of the state's politics um like how how what is the sort of like upper limits on what you can expect from changing having any impact on state government and can you and if you can't like is is that should we put any energy at all into somebody like Matt Jones? I just don't. My personal opinion is no. My personal opinion is we, as the left, want to build a movement. And electoral politics, to me, just seems sort of...

I think you can pressure the system in all kinds of ways that don't involve electoral politics and and i think the west virginia teacher strike is a good example of that but i think that there are you know there are obviously all kinds of other better examples i think it has to be a piece of it you think so i mean it just feels i mean obviously we're hanging on to every fucked up decision that happens out of our capital and i don't know i mean i hate to sound like the these fucking i don't even know how to describe this archetype, but... I'll help you. The money and politics people, you know,

that are just like, that's all they ever talk about. We've got to get money out of Washington. Listen, motherfuckers. I know what you're talking about. They're wearing beaded jewelry. I know exactly what you're talking about. They're usually over the age of... No, no, no, no no i don't mean that it's very reactionary thing to say yeah i just i you know i hate to sound the alarm here but it does just

i don't know i just keep this is like micro and macro at work and like uh around town and in the state of kentucky and in the country i just keep i keep joking with this with other people that keep feeling like the dog in that fucking cartoon that say that's in a burning house saying i'm fine it's fine everything's classic it's fine it's fine guys it's fine um that's the way i feel whenever i see somebody put up one of these articles that's like uh so-and-so pharmaceuticals sent 40 million fucking pills to fucking a town of 12 people population 16 yeah pills to fucking Cal Patty, West Virginia. Population

16. That's why I propose that the Trillbillies answer the bell and we do all the pills before they get out there. We are going to take this bullet. We are a gang now. It's all across the bear. So give us

those pills and we'll find out something to do with them. Give us all your pills, Big Pharma. How do we do it? We got to start sleeping with all the pharmacists. I mean, I think we need a battle plan here. We're going to raid every pharmacy. Okay. Or we could go to pharmacy school.

We could become pharmacists this is this is when okay the other day for our last uh uk game of the tournament i wore blue polka dotted velvet pants and a blue button-up shirt and gold pointy-toed uh loafers and for for the first part of the morning i said i was dressed like the coach's wife and then i decided fuck the wife literally i will fuck the wife and i am the coach now i'm the coach so i was dressed like the coach and i pretended i had a whistle so it's the age old. Do not take the man's last name. Take his clothes. Right. Take all of his assets. His money.

You are the husband. His pride. You are the man. You make the decisions. Right. Wear his skin. I don't know. I don't know where it ends.

You're God. This is a full circle back. That's enough that old fits for you. This is a full circle back that's enough that old fits for you this is a full circle back to electoral politics where there's so there's a whole obviously i believe that there is a ton that people can and should be doing to move our realities and communities and women making decisions in powerful positions would be a big goddamn help right progressive women yeah definitely not nick he haley or anybody like that or uh what's minnesota michelle bachman whatever happened to her she's's still up there. Michelle Bachman's now an easy listening DJ in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Really?

Are you making that up? Oh, my God. Has she joined the ranks of Alex Jones? She came out with something. She's kind of like, you know how they call the last guy drafted in the NBA, Mr. Irrelevant? She came out and was like, after being completely off the radar for like eight years, should I run for governor?

No. No, you shouldn't. You should go away. But Nikki Haley's still governor, right? She didn't run for higher office? No, she's a UN, ambassador to the UN now. Oh, that's right. Yeah, she's in Trump's cabinet.

For God's sakes. Those are the most cush jobs. Diplomats. Right. I mean, what country is she? Sweden or something? What kind of softball does she get? That would be pretty badass.

What country is she? To the UN. To the UN. All of them. All of the countries. We sent Nikki Haley to represent us in front of all of them. Just all the countries. She is our representative at all UN meetings.

Yeah, that's... Is that possible? That's the US, baby. She is a woman of color, though, so... Nikki Haley? Yeah, she's Indian. She is claiming to be native. Not native.

No, not native. She's from... Her parents are from India. No. Really? I thought it was... I thought she was... No, she's...

So she did the Bobby Jindal thing where she's trying to be white. Damn. That's fucking weird. I'm so confused. Oh, God. You ever think about some jobs that you just,

like there's no way, going back to us being pharmacists, there's no way I could actually do that in the same vein that I could actually never be a doctor. I would definitely abuse my power. What power would that be? You're not fit to have life and death in your hands is what you're saying, is it? I think what he's saying here is that... He would develop a God complex.

Somehow he'd keep misplacing prescription pads all over everywhere. Damn, this is fucked up. Terrence would have somebody on life support, like, barely conscious, right? He would lean over and whisper in their ear, I could destroy you if I wanted to. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. When y'all said that I had terrible bedside manner,

I really had to think about that. I was like, do I really? Do I really? I guess I could see it, though. I'd walk in like, hey. Not a big deal. Speaking of this matter, did y'all know that MCHC, our local clinic, network of clinics, has taken on Suboxone?

They're taking it on, huh? They're prescribing Suboxone now. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Hmm. I heard this a couple weeks ago, a few weeks ago at a needle exchange meeting. a needle exchange meeting a addiction that some this like sore fucking sore health meeting i went to just to find out about the fucking needle exchange i was like i need what the fuck yeah and and as a part of that they talked about how so many of their patients were having to go to

suboxone clinics that they decided to just start serving their own. You know, it's always about like we serve our own. Okay, okay. Mike Cottle's just. It was a business decision. Of course. Basically. And, of course, this message was delivered by the country doctor of the year who was literally drinking Mountain Dew the entire time, the entire meeting.

He drank two Mountain Dews during a two-hour meeting. Wow, that's interesting. I know exactly what you're talking about. Anyway, rein that in. You know what he disciplined you for making fun of? Yeah, I got in trouble. Oh, my God. He disciplined me.

I got, what have you done for downtown? Yeah, he asked me, he said, what have you ever done for the community? In person? Into your face? No, on Twitter. It was on Twitter. I didn't even know he had a fucking Twitter. Honestly, I wouldn't have even posted the goddamn thing if I didn't think that like i don't know what was that 2015

yeah we have some local anonymity on twitter goddamn yeah exactly we can be our full bitch bitchy selves right anyway sorry i called on monday called mchc on monday too because i got a recommendation for a therapist there and i haven't been to therapy since college trying to do some maintenance work let me know how it shakes out well the the best therapists in the counties apparently are in the obgyn because they started a therapy unit in the obgyn to try to support mothers dealing with all kinds of shit. And like postpartum depression and stuff. Which I think actually makes a lot of sense.

Anyway, so I'm having to go to a therapist there. Anyway, that's all fine and dandy. But I called on Monday and said, hi, I need to make an appointment with the girl's name. Because that's who multiple of my friends have seen. And she said, okay, well, have you seen her before? And I said, no. No, I'm a new patient. And she said, well, you're going to have to get a referral. I said referral so that's fine i can go to my doctor and get a referral it's fine

and she said well are you you're interested in the program and i said uh i just need a therapy appointment what what what program she said suboxone i would have said yeah yeah i was literally offered didn't come here for that, but. I know. I wanted to say, well, let me see how this therapy appointment shakes out next week. Maybe. Hey, can I see some literature on that? And honestly.

I'd like to see a pamphlet on the Suboxone. Y'all, I swear it sent me into a spiral. Like, this was a Monday anyway. I shouldn't have called on a Monday. But it sent me into a real spiral about how I was like, it was't call it on a monday but it sent me into a real spiral about how i was like it was pretty it took a big step for me to call anyway you know like i haven't been to therapy since college and i hated it yeah and i just really people had gave me glowing reviews about this girl so i really and honestly i just want to pay somebody for an

hour to vent to them about all the shit i'm pissed about and not feel guilty about it okay i just want to pay somebody to get to blow all my shit out and then i get to leave and i don't have to feel bad about it obviously us to have failed i don't want to feel bad for putting all this on somebody else you're trying to handle this that's why we have and i've paid you generously that's why we have a podcast this is what this is for this is the best therapy you can get well i ditched you all for therapy this is what's happened anyway i really spiraled out that all i had to do was call and be offered suboxone on a monday morning yeah i didn't know that uh i thought it was that easy and i and and i was almost embarrassed at how quickly I said no.

Like I was offended. Now, you know, I tried to reel it in. It would be funny if you had like a three second, like you went. Oh. That's exactly what I'm here for. Yes, yes, that program is what I'm interested in. Yeah. I'm in the throes of terrible addiction.

is what I'm interested in. Yeah. Let me know. I'm in the throes of terrible addiction. Let me know what my recommendation needs to say. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. Yeah, like how, where are we at right now? We can't get, but this is why I'm so,

we cannot get this needle exchange set up after two years of pressure, but enough people come into mchc whiling out that they're like you know what let's just start the suboxone there's no there's no there's no money in needle exchange but i'm sure there's a fuckload of money in suboxone oh man this was offered to me i called in the obgyn i called and said gynecology please i was talking to the woman at reception at gynecology why is the gynecology department yeah that is weird subscribing suboxone that is very strange i just i've been in a little bit of a spiral ever since then i was just like

where are we at right now really what is well is... Well, you know what's interesting? I don't care to put this out here. I'm open, Buck. You remember when the FBI, there was that investigation into all the pharmacies in Letcher County? Yeah. Yeah. Well, MCHC was the subject of part of that. That was over billing, right? I forget what it was. Yeah. Well, MCHC was the subject of part of that.

That was over billing, right? I forget what it was. Didn't they get flipped over illegal billing? Well, I think they were involved. No, it was a price gouging thing. Yeah, it was billing. And there was a whistleblower pharmacist that says, I'm getting undercut by all these. They've basically made deals with each other and cut me out of it

and got the FBI in on them, which is like, okay. Around that time, I was going there for my mental health, and I was prescribed Xanax, and I took the Xanax. And some months, I would finish my prescription before. I enjoyed the Xanax. And some months I would finish my prescription before. I enjoyed the Xanax. I took it more. It's like a Bible verse. We broke the Xanax. We shared the Xanax.

We shared it. We enjoyed the Xanax. We saw that it was good. We saw that it was good. We started a podcast. We started a podcast we started a podcast yeah because the lord saw that we needed another podcast damn and but you know what i went back to get that and they kind of like looked at me sideways like i was like you know and uh i was like well can I get more of that?

It really works for me, all this kind of stuff. They go, no, man, with this, we can't write that stuff right now with this whole FBI investigation going down. Wow. So MCHC, my health care provider, picked the fucking FBI over my mental health. But also, and I won't go back to them but also it is incredibly dangerous to cold turkey pull some alphabensyl diazepines like people have seizures and can die from them respiratory failure i mean all kinds of stuff and i was in bed for

probably four or five days shattered like crying a grown man crying for no reason like no reason at all yeah i wonder that's jesus and what do you think the reason behind that was fucking sue like crying, a grown man crying for no reason, like no reason at all. I wonder, and what do you think the reason behind that was? You should fucking sue them. That's gotta be a lie. And they were straight up with you like, FBI's in jail. It was not a medical

decision. It was not a medical decision. It was, we got a little heat on us, man. We can't prescribe anything that could be considered scheduled out there. Like, you are already, you're already, like, going out on a limb here for being brave as fuck to try to handle your health. I don't want any pat on the back for that. Well, shut the fuck up. I wouldn't pat you on the back.

That's just the kind of guy I am, Tonya. But for them to say, like, actually, yeah, we're glad that helped you for a few days but uh now the heat's on us and you're gonna have to just sorry back in the closet hope you don't get the dt loved ones it was miserable i mean i joke about it now but it was really excruciating and miserable and just i just withdrew from everybody. I couldn't do work. Nothing. What I want to know is if it was like they did that because they had the heat on them

because they were already prescribing so much or what. It makes me wonder why they felt in that time. I think that's probably what it was. I think they probably thought this price gouging thing was like the starting point of an investigation to see that they were probably overprescribing.

Interesting stuff like that. I mean, how many people did they cut off? I don't know. Probably around that time. That's pretty crazy, though. Well, it turns out now you can go into gynecology and get you some Suboxone if you need to. Call MCHC and say, obstetrics, please. Tom just shows up that was so funny put your belly out sir you must be here you're in the wrong place like you're

pregnant my my tennis coach my tennis coach in high school was literally like a father to me and like he would like pull me out of school and make him be his run-along buddy and go do stuff with him and all this stuff. And he was also an OBGYN in town. And so when he'd pull me out of school, he would write me doctor's excuses from his OBGYN practice. Oh, my God. Really?

Well, so you have a history. Yeah, you have a medical paper trail. Yes, exactly. To your svoxin. Damn. Well, I'll let you know how therapy shakes out tomorrow. And if I do decide to take up the program. Is there a referral?

Yeah, we're going to need a report back. Like a referral? Refer your friends program? Get like $5 off? Do you have you have a referral yeah tanya referred me she said she loves it she says it's a great thanks for it oh shit really speaks highly of the program wow my this is funny my obgyn the quickest way for me to get it she's in presence bird y'all know her yeah and but the quickest way to get into her is she's one day a week in martin county and if i try to see her in presenceburg which is closer to us it's a two month wait oh but if i really need to see her

quick i go to martin county because she told me that yeah she's yeah i go to ines she's never booked so i can just get in the you know same week if i need to she's there on thursdays i know i can go but that's a three hour drive. That's a like a basically almost a five hour round trip. Yeah, it's fucking far as shit. It's a five hour round trip to go to the gyno. Martin County is insane.

Yeah. I mean. Well, this is what I'm about to tell you. So my gyno clinic is right next door to a suboxone clinic. And the first time I went in Martin County, I told boxing clinic and the first time i went in martin county i told y'all the first time i went i'll sit in the waiting room and it was the same day that they sold china they sold west virginia to china and i was watching the local news and they were just like the fallout they were like well we have a lot of questions but we're confident this is going to

be a great you know it's a great first day and a lot of jobs will be created and work could start as early as next month and we were not sure what the work will be or who will get the jobs or where it will be or what the pay will be but we're confident that no no one knew anything the local news was just spiraling anyway i go into the wrong building i went into the boxing clinic because they're not right next door and it was the first time I'd been there. This is so hilarious. I'm noticing a pattern. It's there too. They're right next door to each other.

There's overlap. It's like Amazon for all your health care. Yeah, it's like a strip mall. They share a parking lot. Or a tanning bed in... What are tanning beds in Eastern Kentucky? There's like a video store. Video store, yeah, video rental and tanning bed. Classic hustle.

Yeah, very classic. Anyway, I go to the Suboxone Clinic on purpose, and they let them smoke in there. Oh, yeah, in Martin County, you can smoke indoors. Yeah, and the clinic, this is a health care provider. I have walked into what i believe to be my gynecologist clinic and it is a cloud a puff cloud of smoke people are there were three women surrounding a single ash tray and i love that i love that damn and as soon as i walked in i just you know i didn't mean to look shocked but i just stood at

the door i just stood at the door looking around like i can't this can't be right um and so i went to the desk and i said uh you know i have an appointment at 11 a.m or whatever and she said oh who's what which doctor and i said you know i said my doctor's name and she said oh that's next door and she looked at me like honey sissy i wish you went back there it'd been a poker game so then i went next door and when i got back to my doctor down the hall yeah anyway i told my doctor this and she said, oh my god, didn't people come over here too? It was a revolving door back and forth and she was just like, ugh. They were like the same side of the street but they had some kind of

west side story fucking beef going. I was like, oh man. Class war. Martin County is fucking unreal. It is insane. Wild, wild west. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I'd recorded that news because it's on the border of West Virginia.

It was like West Virginia trying to report on the- Martin County does feel a lot like West Virginia. The China Bay. Might as well be. It's there. It does feel very, very distant from the rest of the state. Yeah. And it is treated like that.

It's really shitty. It is treated like shit. Well, we're at a little over an hour. I had one more story I wanted to just see if y'all had read or seen anything about. It was... I don't read anymore. You're better for it. You're better for it.

It was... anymore well you're better for it you're better for it it was uh i think it's it was um it was in jezebel is written by a woman named anna merland i have it written down i don't know why get your legal pad out um i think it says i think it's uh it's about benton, Kentucky. Gun fatalism is reasonable in a terrifying country. Anna Merland. Is this woman who went to Benton, Kentucky, where the school shooting was in January? Marshall County. Marshall County, right.

Marshall County High. Yeah, and the town is Benton. And she was just kind of like talking to people there. I don't really have much to say about it other than just, I recommend it. Cause I thought it was pretty interesting is I thought it was fascinating because it's a rural community, but, and, um, she was sort of comparing it to Parkland and saying that like the median community in, um, what Marshall County is,

is, uh, or in, in that area is 40 through $42,000. Whereas in Parkland it's $126,000. The median income? The median income. Forty-some. That's shocking. Yeah, yeah. But it is a, you know,

obviously a marginalized community. It's pretty poor compared to the suburban area that Parkland is in. And she just, I don't know, I just thought it was interesting because she just did a lot of interviews of students. I mean, she interviewed a lot of people and just sort of, like, talked to people's ideas about, like, guns. And everybody was pretty just sort of resigned.

It was just really dark. Like, everybody's just sort of, like, resigned that this will be a problem that can never be fixed. Like, everybody's just sort of, like, resigned that this will be a problem that can never be fixed. Like, everybody's just sort of resigned themselves to the fact that, like, we'll always have school shootings and there's no way to stop them. Really? Yeah. Imagine that take, the month of Columbine. Yeah.

You know, and I mean, for us, it feels like that wasn't even that long ago because I have such a vivid memory columbine yeah yeah but it was like well i was like in fifth grade yeah so it's like um 15 20 almost 20 years ago probably right yeah was it late 90s 99 99 yeah yeah that's crazy it's crazy it um i did read an op-ed by a woman who moved to Kentucky from somewhere else. I think she was near Paris, Kentucky, and was talking about basically the same sentiment, that people are just like they want their guns, they're clinging to their guns. But I thought her take on it was pretty terrible. There's a lot of bad gun takes out there.

Oh, yeah. It's easy. One of the easiest things in the world. There's a lot of bad gun takes out there. Oh, yeah. It's easy. One of the easiest things in the world to do is to have a bad gun take. Yeah. Yeah. I had one yesterday, I think. Well, just yesterday afternoon, I had one. My very own.

Yeah. No, I think you're right. Well, we're at an hour and seven. That was a good one. Surely you cut this an hour and seven. That was a good one. Surely you cut this down to a half. That's a... A half hour. Forty-five minutes.

I think an hour and seven, I'll just leave everything in. God. And let it roll. But, you know, we don't ever do this on the show, but we really should. We do have a Patreon, and people should subscribe to it. You know, most of our episodes are free, and we just kind of want that to be the way it is.

But we do put some shit on the Patreon. Yeah, and we try to do it with more regularity now. We're going to have t-shirts soon. Ain't the full, uncut Nick Offerman episode on Patreon? It is. I like the title you picked for that. That was nice. Did you like it? What is it? Marks and Rec.

Oh, yeah. That was pretty good. Pretty good. Didn't y'all just put another one up? We did. We just put one up today. It's a good day to plug. Yeah, so check that out. Yeah, that episode. Wokey's from Muskogee. Yeah. Who? Woke-lah-homa.

Woke-lah-homa. We're going to turn this into a sketch. Woke-lah-homa. Woke-lah-homa. We're going to turn this into a sketch. Woke-lah-homa where it's Oklahoma but woke. Like when we do

our little animated series we want to do it's going to take place in Woke-lah-homa. Oh yeah. We're going to do an animated series. Great.

I wish we could find someone who did Claymation. That's really my shit. Oh that'd be great. Yeah. That's really my shit. Oh, that'd be great. That's really my shit. That would be the shit. I'm so hopped up on Rudolph every year. Let's start a claymation series.

Yes, please. Fuck yeah. I fully support that. Who did y'all interview for Mastoki? Oh, no. We just... Me and Tom were talking about the situation going on in oklahoma around like schools massive tax cuts to the oil and gas industry as i was reading off

a headline i said oklahoma on accident oh is it true they're down to a four-day four-day school week i i know it was proposed at one point, but I don't know if they went through. Supposedly. For the kids. For the kids, yeah. No, it's not a gap zone. And teachers were picking up side jobs? It's

awesome in some ways, but it is mostly bad. It just goes to show you how more schools are just being cut more and more we're putting more and more money into extractive industries the military industrial complex everything else i'm just saying a four issues of teachers losing their livelihood aside i think going to a four day per-a-week school system would be really good. I think it would probably be better.

And a work week while we're on that side. Yeah. Honestly, I have no idea. Four-day work week. Let's go. Not cool what they're doing to teachers, though. Let me clarify. My friend Wilson has an idea.

He calls it the four-by-four. It's a campaign for a four-day work week, four hours a week. You work four hours a day, four days a week. I like that. That's good for me. That's about week, four hours a week. You work four hours a day, four days a week. I don't like that. That's good for me. That's about all I'm putting in anyway. So that's 16 hours. That's a bit old.

16-hour work day. Be an easy adjustment for me, man. Well, tried and true, we have tested this. Tom's a testament. All he needs is a little bit, so is that the end of it? Right. Well, on that note, let's call this one good. And we'll

see you all next week. Later. Bye.