Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 459: Frolicking With Intention
Episode Date: August 27, 2026Interrogating our past Dolly (and authorial) crimes, and examining another week in bizarre Trump policies Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty...
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Shall we?
Yeah.
Okay.
First thing's first.
You got to talk into the mic.
Yeah, as people were upset about that.
The second thing, you have to sit.
You have to speak in your actual accent.
You're larping.
You want to tell the audience you've been larping this all time for nine years?
That your accent is not actually what it sounds like.
If I could do anything else, I really would.
right now. I just can't. Try to talk
like me. Can you try to talk like
an Ohio person? You're not an Ohio
person? Well, yeah, but I know, but
I sound like I am.
I've never heard you try to talk like
Midwestern. Let's see.
Or just any, what's the
standard American accent? Just like accentless.
Because that's what's
pissing people off.
People really do think that you're like,
people have never been to places like Eastern
Tennessee or Eastern Kentucky. Like they
really don't know that everybody there sounds like you.
Yeah, they don't understand.
They don't understand like everybody there.
Like, but if that's really funny that people think either you're larping and making it
up or that an entire region is.
That is funny.
What did someone say that you were, your accent was actually Texan?
Tell the larper his accent is actually Texan.
Yeah, it was on the chopper comment.
I said, tell the larper that his accent's actually Texas, not after.
I go seeking this stuff out too, just because I like to take the temperature every once in a while.
Oh, man.
Somebody said that I was embellishing my accent like a Disney cruise performer or something.
Like dolly.
I never, you know, like you all the time say, like, I never get bad feedback.
I got all kinds of bad feedback.
Well, you're, that is true.
Our audience doesn't give you bad feedback.
Me and Aaron draw the majority.
Unless I don't talk into the mind.
Unless you don't, unless you, what, do you do?
Their notes for me are all technical.
They're all mic-related.
They're all mic-related.
You're not talking into the mic,
or you're chewing into the mic.
Usually those two.
You and Aaron are dumb pieces of shit.
We usually draw the ire of people's comments.
How is that way on you?
Well.
I haven't done this for almost 10 years come from everywhere.
It still hasn't.
quite,
it still hasn't quite,
I still have an acclimate.
I'm getting a little,
I'm getting a little piece of it.
I'm like, well, okay,
this must be what he felt like all these years.
I know.
Well, that's the thing.
Like, most of my comments that I get are like,
you're stupid, you should kill yourself.
Terrence is a sued.
All things that I've already thought of.
Have you considered this thing
you already considered on the show?
Have you considered this thing I already
consider it on the show?
But I'm in therapy, so it's fine.
Yeah, I'm about to join you now that everybody thinks I'm a put on.
Dude, try, let's put you on this spot.
Try to talk like accentsless.
Just to prove to people that you...
I want to try.
Let's hear it.
Say...
Well, let's hear from him, Dave.
Back to you, Mark.
It's like not even...
remotely like
okay like if I try to talk like
someone from Eastern
Keseaggy's like hey buddy
you're it's like very
hi buddy come on down to the A&R
whatever right okay
so now do what I just did in reverse
try to talk like me
hey buddy
I can I can it always comes out
sounding like Mickey Mouse or something
that's cute
I think it's cute
hey man
that's still even slips in there
that's weird
Well, let's just take you to task in general today
Is this the basis for your hate against Dolly?
You realize you're going to get right into that.
You realize you killed her, right?
I got a text from my buddy Dehlin in Tennessee the other day
And I didn't see it for like a couple hours
I was like what was he talking about?
Because he texted me, he said, well you won
I was like, wait what?
Oh, oh oh
Oh, man.
Man.
I've been laying low last couple days.
I'll be honest with you.
I mean, I've been wearing a mustache out to the grocery store, you know,
like a Groucho-Marx cigar.
The funny thing is, is like I get a lot of ire for being a contrarian.
Because I kind of am.
I've got ODD, right?
I trumped all of you all, though.
But you guys, you did.
I stepped in it.
You really, you really went the extra mile with hating on Dolly,
which is like...
But here's the thing about it though.
Here's the thing about it
because I went back and I read that last night
I'm like, yeah, some of this stuff is just like...
The thing for the baffler you wrote?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some of the stuff is just like,
now that I see it like six years later,
I'm like, yeah, some of this stuff
is just the sort of like
everything's bad style at the time,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's just like tickey tech stuff.
It's like, Dali is not...
We weren't fully...
If I had to go, if I had to go,
if I had to say, let's see if I could drop a kind of like psychological profile here of the piece,
we still believed that the parts of our heroes that were good could overcome,
not just the parts of them that were bad, but the whole world.
So like when Chad Abramrod said that Dolly ended apartheid in South Africa,
that in and of itself was a projection because it expressed a real feeling,
is that we would like Dolly to end.
To do that.
Apartheid in South Africa and the West Bank.
And we don't stop to pause and say,
well, she didn't do any of those things.
And so your piece was reckoning with this.
It's against Stan culture.
It's really what it is,
but it's using Dolly as like the jumping off point.
It's against Stan culture,
but it is also, if I had to periodize it, pre-dumer.
Pre-Dumer.
When did you write that?
2018?
2020.
It's a pandemic.
Okay. So like we weren't fully Dumer yet in 2020, right?
We were trending that during.
You could say we're not even fully Dumer now.
I would say two years ago I was fully Dumer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, now I'm gay in the old way of using the word.
Like happy?
Yeah, but gay, like, frolicing through fields.
Meadows.
I'm Dumer. I frolic through fields dumerly.
You're at peace with the collapse.
I get a little stick.
I frolic through the fields.
I run the stick against the picket fence.
But I'm doomer doing it.
Hey, Mr. Wilson.
There you go.
That's how.
So, but the piece was,
I went back and wrote your thing for the bafflor.
I was hoping people wouldn't rediscover it.
I was nervous.
Oh, dude.
Oh, dude.
Trust me, dude.
I, there are so.
I won't acknowledge.
There are so many things I wrote,
2016 through
2022 that I wish
we could just scrub
just get just get
my dolly
and by that is your
is your non-profits
my non-profit essay yeah
like every
in fact most essays
I wrote
in fact let's just say all of
I don't think I've
I've heard a good one yeah
let's just say
none of those were good
let's just start fresh
it's against
stay in culture though
it is against stand culture
it uses
I guess what I was trying to say is this
is part of it was also
because I went back
I don't know why I sought this out because I never do this
because it just messes with my head
but I saw it out of what some people
were saying at the time and it wasn't that many people to be fair
or at least I don't know
there were people talking about the baffo dot
but they didn't seem to triangulate me out
maybe because I'd nuke to my Twitter account
oh you mean like right now people were
no no no no no no
at the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And somebody was like,
this runs right up to reasonable critique
of staying culture or something like that,
but also middle-aged white man's, like,
grievance with those people that, like, indulge in that.
Uh-huh.
Which is, like, a little true.
Okay.
You know.
Yeah.
I think my thing with what I was trying to get at.
That was not a take down a dolly
to say that Dolly is a uniquely heinous figure.
I don't believe that at all.
It is just to point out that, like,
a lot of famous people have these, like,
sort of surgically crafted PR,
front-facing,
whatever you want to call it.
And that a lot of times with the stands,
they just, like, use that,
the ambiguity in that,
to just make their idols,
whatever they want them to be.
Uh-huh.
And that's how you end up like,
it's not that Dolly chopped it up with everybody
from the Communist Party USA to Kim Jong-il.
You know what I mean?
That would be tight.
It's just that anybody can just make Dolly
what they need her to be.
Yeah.
And how that's not necessarily fair to the person.
And also it produces a lot of weird stuff downstream.
Like these people say,
Dolly, Dolly's a Satanist that sacrificed you.
I'm like, calm down.
Wait, wait.
People say that?
Yeah, yeah.
There's like this whole stream.
This is online shit, so this is not, I'm not trying to say this is like widespread.
But the logical end point of like Stan culture is like coming up with this.
Psychosis.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
A psychosis.
It is a stand-standum.
It's a fandom that I can, I have much more respect for that than Taylor Swift.
Oh.
And the only reason why is just simply because those songs,
The Dolly songs are going to hold up for another is 500 years.
Because that's just about like basic human emotion.
Well, if Joleen was the rallying cry of Nelson Mandela and those fighting apartheid in South Africa.
It doesn't make sense.
A song about a woman begging another woman not to cuck her for her man.
It's a bank teller, actually.
Oh, really?
Because you noticed the bank teller was flirting with Carl.
That's right.
That's the origin of that.
There's their origin, yeah.
I'm not sure how that translates to South Africa.
part-time.
However,
the Taylor Swift songs
will not age well
because they only,
you know,
it's just like,
like I've said before,
I just can't imagine
an 80-year-old singing songs
about like high school.
But whatever.
Well, it's kind of locked
into a time.
Yeah,
there's like,
you know,
I'm not going to pick them
and stuff because there's,
look, I'm drawing fire.
There's stuff I love
and is insanely dumb.
I'm drawing fire away
from you by taking on Taylor Swift.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate what you're trying to do, but it's not necessary.
We don't have to bag on the swifties to just do a little misdirection.
I will say that her dying did feel wild.
It felt like it happening in the middle of what is clearly the death throws of a certain conception
and articulation of American power,
both cultural and material,
it happening at that very moment
did feel, like, kind of whiplash.
It's kind of like,
I don't know,
people say, end of an era,
but, like, genuinely.
True.
True, like, it is, like,
a more innocent era.
Like, I was listening to,
like, all day yesterday,
NPR was, like,
doing, you know,
Dolly world shit,
dolly stuff.
And,
um,
just like the retrospective of her career it's like man like it's uh we were a lot more
i don't want to say the word innocent but like it's just um it had more levity
it had more levity it was a little wider yeah yeah yeah things didn't feel so um it it i don't know
the spirit of dolly in the world made things lighter i think that's indisputable i think you know
whatever, you know.
Well, and it also told a specific turd.
It told a specific story about...
A turd.
A turd.
A specific story.
About America, which was...
And I don't know if it's true about Dahlia or not.
Like, it seemed like it was.
It seemed like it was more true for Loretta Lynn than it was Dolly.
But she definitely got the whole bootstraps mythology applied to her.
And again, that was another kind of like myth that, like,
made sense for the time,
but does,
are any of our fucking pop stars
or singers or artists,
do they, do any of them come from humble origins anymore?
It's like, I have to listen to fucking Gracie Abrams and shit.
I have to listen to fucking Nepo children
making the most bog standard, like mid-bullshit imaginable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just like...
Well, it's the price to participate now, you know?
Yeah.
Whereas they used to go pluck you out of the hollers
and the inner cities or wherever, you know,
if you had the talent or if you were making waves.
Now, like, they just craft that at home.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I'm not saying there's not Nepo babies
or rich kids that don't have talent
or have not cultivated a talent.
I think that's clear.
No child of J.J. Abrams is writing a song like 9 to 5.
No, no, no, no, no.
Or I will always love you.
No, no, no, that's true.
That's true.
But what I am saying is that, like,
where it falls a little flat to me is, like,
If we lean on our storytellers and our musicians and stuff to sort of reflect, like, life experience back to us,
if, like, you don't have any struggles to call your own necessarily.
And I'm not saying rich people don't have struggles or whatever of a kind.
But there's just some things they'll never have to worry about or never have to know about.
Yeah.
Which are fundamental to a lot of people in this fucking country and all over the world, obviously.
But, like, I just don't know how you can accurately reproduce that.
and that's not to say there's not great art made from that or whatever.
It's a reason why I like a lot of the Dave Berman songs,
but there's just some place I can't get with him
because I know he's like a rich kid.
His father.
And I'm not saying he's not a fantastic songwriter,
I don't like some of his music,
but it's just a place I can't go.
That maybe if you are like a person of means or wherever,
like a person of me
if you're a rich kid
like you could probably
relate to that on a different level
you know what I mean?
Yeah no yeah yeah yeah
it just I guess what I'm trying to say
here is that like
I just let me before we go
I like I really like
Silver choosing Dave Burman
I'm just saying but that like
it creates a different lens
through which you got to view the art
you know what I mean
uh huh
uh huh uh huh um
uh
uh
What I guess the part I'm trying to make here is it like we live in a world in which the rich the wealthiest of the wealthy won and I don't know they didn't win for all eternity and they didn't win
um maybe in the medium term long term but they definitely won this round and we're seeing the effects of it and so but I guess what I'm saying here is that like dolly was the representation of a specific kind of mythology about America which was that like well her herself if you came from her home
humble origins, you could reach incredible highs.
Sort of high.
And that is just, like, I'm just like reading this the same day that I'm reading,
like, Trump is importing, like, what, 133,000 pounds of, uh, fucking mystery beef.
Mystery beef is moated with, like, toxic antibiotics.
RFK Jr. is on an apology tour for measles, um, but they're still not going to do anything
to change the fact that there's glass in the fucking fruit bars.
there's IV bags with fiberglass in them.
And like Scott Besson is like going around and...
Like we should kill them just to be clear.
I want to say that.
I want to say that.
Like I just want to say that I don't even give a flying fuck.
But like these are offenses that don't that like there's somebody that's like in the hospital like getting fiberglass shot in their veins and might die from that.
Like you should I just it blows my mind that not only are we not going.
going to kill them, they're going to keep just right in the coffers.
And so what I'm saying is that like the juxtaposition of like the simplicity and what be
the word, I'm not going to use the word like benevolent to describe a person like Dolly,
but I will say that she had a kind of like geniality and a amiability.
Like a, she cultivated a certain like personality type that was accessible, friendly, and not
cruel.
Let's just say that.
Not cruel.
Okay, and say what you want about our business prices.
I'm not going to get it.
I don't care.
Whatever.
That's like, that's one thing about that whole thing is like, that I thought was tiki tech about the whole piece.
It's like, you could literally pick any rich person and point those things out about them.
You know what I mean?
And it's just like, I just had to pick the one that everybody seems to like, you know, everybody likes.
It's just such an unforced error.
Point being.
I should have stayed in the, in the staying culture lane.
That's what I mean.
Well, I think our first.
mistake was writing anything.
Yeah, that's true.
We just just never write.
Don't write articles.
Also, too, don't write anything to you're like 45.
Yeah, that's true.
If you're thinking there, oh man, I'm going to write the next great American novel
you're 24.
Yeah.
Stop.
Ocean vong, stop.
Wait to your 45 before you write anything else.
Okay, so there's a difference between like benevolence slash compassion and kindness, in my opinion.
And I just want to say that like, it's jarring to see.
see the juxtaposition between
like the kindness and
simplicity of a Dolly Barton
mashed up next to
the grotesque like Cronenbergian
freak show that is the current
rating on every
aspect of American life currently
going on. You know what I'm saying? It's like it genuinely
like if we're talking about like just purely
at an aesthetic level
the mashing up of Dolly Parton
with David Cronenberg
is a really bizarre
stew. But like that's,
but that's like, honestly, I hadn't really thought about Dolly in years.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, I listen to the songs and got the trio album.
Every time she'd kind of pop up the news, I'd get text, especially maybe like,
you best, it's like, I just want to be clear. I don't hate Dolly Parton. I love Dolly Parton.
I love her as an artist, as a performer. I just think that like, when you get staying culture,
you just tend to overlook the blind spots, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I get you, man.
I get you look.
I'll say this.
I was talking to a friend this morning,
and they made a good point.
We were talking about Dolly Dine and what that means.
For people in eastern Kentucky Appalach and stuff,
because he's just such a massive cultural figure here.
Where, like, when I was a kid, we were talking about it's like,
I thought Dolly was like a weird aunt of mine or something.
Yeah.
Like, really?
Like, I'm not, like, exaggerating that in the sense that, like,
I thought she was kind of like a distant family member or something.
Like, I thought that, like, my mom knew Dolly Park when they were young.
or something like that.
I thought that about Michael Jordan.
Did you?
That makes sense.
A grandpa.
My mom's my guy.
And she brought up a good point, and she told me, she said,
that there's a friend of ours whose father never, like, smiled in any family photo.
Uh-huh.
And anybody from Appalachia will know this experience.
Well, every member of your family has a picture taken.
where there's probably multiple members of your family
dressed up like they're like saloon goers in the 1800s
holding a shotgun and like a jug of whiskey
and like you know the your crazy aunts wearing a low-cut shirt
and all this stuff and that's taken you know
at the Silver Dollar City or the Dixie Stampede or Dollywood
you can go there and get those taken
and she said the only picture that our friend's dad ever smiled in
was that picture and he was his idea to go
just to go there just to take those pictures
and they're hanging on the wall
and every other one he's like very
not because he just didn't smile in pictures
it wasn't because he was trying to be a dick or anything
but the one picture he's got a
shit eating grin on is the dolly
Dolly made him happy
so I don't know
there's
look man we live in a
spiritually
technologically depraved world
you got to take your happiness
wherever you can find it
I mean dude I know people that fucking
I don't know
Go for it
Well I was just gonna say like
This is kind of like the message of like madmen and stuff too
It's like how much like genuine like human emotion and expression
Can you like mine from something as cheap in tawdry as a commercial
Yeah
The sad and depressing thing brother is that there are tons of people out there that like
Do you think commercials are funny or like have some sort of like
You know what I'm saying like that adds that there is some sort of that
And that's
That's already...
We get together every Super Bowl to see the new ads.
That's already bottom of the barrel.
We're drilling through...
Like,
21st century life is so depraved
and, in my opinion, utterly vacuous.
In a way that's, like, I think,
unprecedented in human history,
that we're drilling through the bottom of the barrel,
like with AI,
that you would take something already
as bottom barrel as, like, modern advertising
and, like, subject.
it to a template of, in my opinion,
unreal, uncanny valley psychosis-inducing
algorithms and machines.
Like, that's how, that's how genuinely how,
like, depraved everything is.
And so that's what I'm saying, that, like,
Dali was kind of artifact of a previous era.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
It's, like, it feels like something you could at least
hold on to.
It had a certain kind of tangibility to it
that, like, say whatever you want
about like the pitfalls of stand culture or celebrity celebdom or whatever it still was tangible
and it felt somewhat like real in a world as depraved as America was in the late 20th century
now it has become even more I mean there's no who would even replace someone like dolly
like there's no one like well first of all like they're not even you know for whatever reason like
really elevating like women singers from Appalachia to start them they're mostly all men um
but then like the ones that's not great ones of those either but uh but then the ones that they do
elevate are like there's no dolly was kind of like um i've heard people she was one of the last like
and this is a pretty bog standard you know obvious point but one of the last cultural
figures that was like broadly popular that didn't that didn't get like funneled into the america a
america b dichotomy that wasn't a part of the culture war really like you know what i mean like even
insane conservatives who are homophobic still fucked with dolly you know what i'm saying so i so she
she was just kind of one of the last figures with broad support yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
strata you were from from the former consensus reality we all lived right well and i think
to be honest with you, the thing
and the reason why I wrote that piece is
is what the catalyst for it was is
she did that Squarespace commercial
and that interrupted
for me. I forgot about that.
Yeah, because the song she used
was nine to five, which was probably interpreted
as a working class anthem.
And then they turned it into like a rise and grind thing for that.
And that's what set me off.
That was bad.
It is because that is like,
that was the first sign of that consensus reality.
Well, but that, like, sort of like,
slipping away, yeah,
the chair,
devolving or falling in on itself.
But it does show that, like,
how even Dolly was, like, sort of,
um,
was it as a product of a former type of American capitalism that, like,
but like how within her specific,
like,
her specific, like, figure and, like,
ethos and,
and philosophy,
be an approach to the world, like still contained within her, there was the kind of like
grind hustle cult core, hustle culture type thing.
But like, the fact that, I don't know, that is very strict.
That's a very thing, like, if Dolly was to, like, go out there and, like, hot Coca-Cola
or, like, fucking any other, like, commodity that, you know, America, we kind of associate
with, like, being a foundationally American, like, commodity, like, Coca-Cola.
or Ford trucks or some shit.
But like Squarespace,
very fucking bizarre choice.
And it just like I said,
shows kind of like how things got away
even from her.
Five to nine,
that's very fuck.
I think that's like pretty disgusting.
But like, you know,
we talk about someone's legacy.
It's like,
you know, there's a lot of good stuff to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to judge people on balance.
You got judge people on balance.
That's just the reality.
of it like everybody no matter
how saintly you have them
in your mind is like going to
disappoint you or something oh yeah dude when I die
my neighbors are gonna be like that fucking asshole
Kurt cussed me oh
and they don't know all the good things you said about
they don't know all the good things I said in my life
for example like neoliberalism
is bad and
like we need to do stuff
with politics
yeah
why won't they
everybody reminds of that time me and you were driving over to
why is that time and I was mad at Greg Napier for something.
I don't remember what now.
He, his show, we were listening to his show on the radio.
I said, listen to this fucking piece of shit.
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Just because I was mad at him at the time.
And because, I don't know, he put on a show where that artist management was calling
me wanting some money.
And I was like, this motherfucker hung me out to drive.
What a fucking asshole.
Da, da, da, da, da.
And five seconds later, he goes, just going to,
send this one out to Tom
sex and real
over there
a real pillar of the community
a man with some vision
who's changing things
in Central Appalach
a moral center
you're like
God damn it
disregard everything
I just said
that was good
I liked that
yeah
you know the thing
about Dolly too though
is like
Dolly is
and I'm not
comparing her to Trump
when I say this, but just in the same way
that Trump is like
sort of the first person that was too big
to fail because his name was associated
with all the, you know,
the American opulence and
American exceptionalism
and the, you know,
over the top sort of wealth
and everything that we've programmed
everybody to aspire to here.
Dolly was one of the few people
that was, she's kind of like Paul Bunyan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, or John.
Henry or something.
She's in a, yeah, I think, and like I said, I think that a lot of that has to do with
her trajectory.
Well, there's also just a lot of myth making around her.
And it's like, you know, it's hard to say like where, where that stems from or anything
like that.
But I remember listening to this Dolly podcast like, back, God, it's like 2018, 29.
Dude, is that the radio lab one?
It may have been the day.
That's the one where they, yeah.
But they told this story in there
that she like, when she was a little girl in Tennessee,
that she hopped this fence
and there was like broken glass on the other end
and she like came down on it on her bare feet
and it severed her toes off.
Oh, so I see what you're saying.
And then they were like,
her mother had to sew her toes back on with like needle on thread.
And I'm like, so it's basically like,
so it's basically like a Jesus thing
where like we have all these stories and legends
about Jesus' childhood.
We accept that he is amazing.
that lived and for many people
or like Paul Bunyan
yeah yeah she's a myth
she's definitely like a figure
a demigod sort of
a demigone for sure
I think it's partially to do with her personality
like Loretta Lynn was kind of like
task turn like a little
costic and then kind of had that Trump thing
yeah yeah yeah
whereas like Dolly
was broadly agreeable
personality wise it's like
a very self-deprecating
very charming I would not call
Loretta Lynn necessarily charming
in the same way.
Or Tammy Wynette or any of those other figures.
But also, I mean, this conversation is limited by the fact that we're two mayo
ass Y boys.
Talking about women, aren't you?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And, like, she definitely had a kind of, like, girl boss.
I hate to use that word.
I'm sorry.
But just kind of, like, mentality about it.
You know what I'm saying?
She, like, had a husband.
like stayed out of the limelight and uh yeah you know well even like like the things i pointed out
that that piece was like uh which i'm like i don't stand by it but then i'm just sitting here like
you're validating every point i may but like you know she she would oftentimes reject the label
a feminist and then she kind of hedged and kind of came around on that you know yeah and then she
would just say now like i'm a business woman like that's like a strong part of like my identity
and all this kind of stuff and like didn't see any sort of conflict in that and you know again like as far as the
as you know multi multi multi multi millionaires go like she did a lot of like tangible good like even in severe
county after like the wildfires there she built like out of our own money like nine point six million
worth of housing for people yeah now issue is not like with like saying that's bad or anything like
that it's saying that like it's messed up we live in a world where we have to depend on the altruism
of like our heroes or she rose in this kind of that's good i like that also um something
happened like in the 90s where um you started to get new consumer demographics like new blocks of
consumers,
one of which was
queer consumers.
You know what I'm saying?
Like as a definable consumer block, right?
That didn't exist in the 60s.
It didn't exist in the 70s.
There wasn't like a queer community that you sold
thousands.
Well, there was,
but there was not stuff marketed directly to them
because a lot of people still had to be in the closet
and all these other things.
Exactly.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Sorry, I did it.
I put the cart before.
You're like, there was no queer community
before not.
92.
You see what I'm trying to say.
Hey, when gay came out in 92.
When gay came out in 87.
There's something about her
general appearance
that is kind of so over the top.
Like, there's a lot of drag performers
that, like, the, you know.
And sort of their template.
Yeah, and so, like, I think that, like,
that was another big...
We're just saying shit
that's, like, very obvious to a lot of people.
But I think you got to, you do make
a good point that like her name was synonymous with a certain thing and that's not true of a lot
of American figures other than like Trump is one yeah like Oprah is another one like just like
the one name right like just and like that name becoming like a sort of signifier and synonymous
with a lot of pale like those people you just mentioned in any number of Brazilian soccer players
exactly um just Brazilians in general but like I want to
to talk about Trump actually. Let's pivot to talking about some stuff.
Because like, you know, this week, I would say that in the last two to three weeks, the
wills have completely fallen off. Anything we could conceivably label a Trump coalition.
I mean, fucking skinny jelly rolls out there talking about.
He hosted Jimmy Kimmelville and I announced Project Pat and Juicy Jay I saw.
Yeah.
So I, and he was talking shit about Trump and his bad, um, was he?
Yeah, his bad approval numbers.
Jailyroll was.
Jailie Roll was, yeah.
So he's pivoting that, hard pivot.
I don't know if he ever was pro-Trump.
I think he kind of did like a coy, like playing his cards close to his chest type thing.
I think what he did was he just waited to see which way the winds were blowing.
Then he was, yeah.
He made, like, I think he made gestures to like the Trump aesthetic and like cultural thing.
He definitely is not a thing without Trump.
Yeah, but like he...
He's still, like, doing marginal, like, rap records if not from Trump.
He wouldn't have crossed over to country.
That's true.
And without J.D. Vance, too.
Yeah.
Kind of, like...
Which is funny.
I saw a really funny tweet this yesterday that was, like,
J.D. Vance still hasn't said anything about Dolly.
He's a fake appellatechin.
Like, I don't think he's going to.
Don't hold your breath.
In all my critiques of J.D. Vance and people say what we want,
We were headed the curve on that.
Oh, you're defending us?
No, I'm defending us.
I'll defend us on this one point.
No other points will I defend us.
From this one point, I'll defend us.
I don't think,
I don't think J.D. Vance is like a fake Appalachian.
Oh, you don't.
I don't think, like, I don't think you could take his, like,
sort of hillbilly credentials from him.
You have to make the differentiation between he is, like,
the grandson of people that came from Eastern Kentucky,
versus having actually been raised there in the stew.
But when people are like...
He's diaspora.
He's a fake Appalachian.
That'd be like saying like somebody from Jamaica's not a real African.
You know what I mean?
Or whatever.
It would be like saying somebody from Boston's not a real Irishman.
Exactly.
Pretty much.
That's what you just said.
Hey, you said it.
I don't know.
I have had questions about his whole thing.
Just because he was selling people for the longest time,
his last name was Hamill.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's...
Right?
J.D.
Hamill is more distinctly
Appalachian last name.
He slips the mask on
when it's convenient for him
and takes it off when it's not.
Totally.
I'm not saying that's not true.
I'm just saying like when people are,
he's a fake.
He's a fake appellate.
He's a fake appellate.
He's like, no.
I mean, his grandparents are from Jackson.
I mean, that's about as Appalach as you get.
Um, where was it going with that?
Trump.
Oh.
oh yeah okay
but it's just been a weird week
and the fact like having dolly die
in the middle of it was a
very strange thing to sort of
have dropped down
in the midst of like
like I said like I feel like the
wheels have completely come off
the Trump thing like
he has
infuriated farmers and ranchers
with the Canadian tariffs
that's gonna all
that's gonna make the farm situation
even worse than it already is
And there was this big write-up in the financial times
about how farmers are pissed at Trump.
Primarily because the two things,
the price of fertilizer is insane
because the strata hormones is closed,
and the price of diesel is insane
because the straight-of-hormuz is close.
And so farmers are like pissed.
Trump says he's going to bail farmers out
to the $30 billion,
but that's not going to be even nearly enough
for them to make up the losses.
$30 billion.
And so then there's,
talk 30 billion dollars okay i just want to
so like like that's what he paid for that shitty ass beef in
argentina is like argentina's dying don't you care
no frankly no don't give a fuck
they made their choice
yeah um
but yeah and and then
like i said to add insult to injury they're putting more tariffs on canada
Canada has decided they're done playing ball
Like they've
And it's honestly like I'm kind of impressed
Like I don't know
I genuinely
Appreciate Mark Carney going the Iranians route
Basically being like
Fuck this dude
Like every other fucking country
Still being obsequious and like having to go through the motions
Like Europe for example
Go through the motions with Trump
And Canadians finally being like
Fuck this man
I'm fucking over it
Like you know what I mean
Like I'm done dealing with this asses
Like it's just
He's overplayed his hand
This is every person
With this particular
Syndrome
Eventually
Eventually goes a bridge too far
Overplays their hand
Yeah yeah yeah
So like
It is interesting
I mean
I've seen a lot of people being like
These farmers will still vote for him
Regardless in 2020
I don't know about that man
I would say
I'm not I'm not gonna go ahead
And say that it's crazy we're even talking about
He can run in 2020
Well right
Right right right right
They'll still vote for it
I won't go as far as to say that they'll vote for a Democrat,
but they'll sit it out.
I mean, dude, the magnitude of how badly Trump has shafted American farmers and ranchers is fucking, is pretty amazing.
That's crazy.
And, you know, you got to, you know, it was always heading this way anyways.
Like, anybody's stupid enough to actually think it wouldn't.
If you're out there and you're a rancher with an ornry streak, I'm not talking about,
one of these Monsanto fucking, you know,
Toties.
I'm talking about like...
John fucking Dutton, man.
Like a John.
What is this?
What is this crap?
What is this crap?
30 million pounds of fucking tainted beef.
What is?
My father,
my father were alive to see this.
He won't even buy my beef.
But if you really
wanted to become like a John Henry figure,
like Dolly Parton,
just go shoot him.
Just shoot him.
Go.
Go blow his shit, move off.
That is true.
You would become a John Henry.
Like, if you did that, like, in Minecraft, like...
In the fantasy world.
Fantasy world.
But, no, I mean, and...
I guess what kind of still blows my mind, though,
is the people still...
Like, it does...
It is giving, like, late cult...
vibes in the sense that like there are still people who are diehards and they seem to be completely
enchanted by him still obviously natalie hart being one of them madly heart being chief among
we talked about it on the patreon on monday um but like something that has been kind of perplexing me
or sort of really blowing my mind is the fact that scott besant is still writing hard for this
like I know we've said before that like in Trump too you've had a you know who's who of various toadies and sycophants and lackeys who you know basically do the mad max like witness me like I will see Valhalla thing with Trump like whether it was Christy Knoem with Minneapolis or Hegseth with the war or Vance with the racist.
with the attempt to stoke pogroms.
Like, every one of them has had...
Every one of them has had, like, their spot in the shine, you know,
spot in the sun to shine.
Or whatever, I don't know if that's the phrase.
I think what you look for is time in the sun.
Time in the sun.
I went to idiom...
Classic Ray Idiom.
I went to Idiom workshops and still, I'm not...
I still haven't internalized it full.
but like you know and most of them fall short of the glory right um but now besson's up like it's his turn to bat okay
and it has you could make the argument it has been since trump started doing the tariffs and really since the war started
but i do like besson's like reframe though like we talked about in chopper this week where he's like
now what we're going to do now is grow the economy so much that it looks like the deficits are smaller by comparison
Right, right, right.
Well, his...
Classic CBT reframe.
I'm kind of fascinated with his biography,
like his career trajectory.
Well, that's his story.
Dude, he started out with none other than George Soros.
Oh, yeah, you were saying that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I didn't know that.
It must be somebody else.
I didn't know that until just this morning I was reading
in the New York Times.
He started out...
I swore you told me that the other day.
Maybe I did that.
It's possible.
somebody else told me.
When you have a baby,
you don't sleep much,
which means you don't remember much.
I don't know.
But he started out with Soros.
He was kind of like a wonder,
is it Wonderkind?
Wonderkind.
He was like a young whiz,
like a hot shot coming up in finance.
And he had this like mentor,
Stanley Druckenmire or whatever is that.
Stanley Shera.
Yeah,
San Shera.
And he,
you know,
he was known,
like he had a lot of credibility
because he made fucking billions for Soros.
Which is ironic because Soros would become like the
Boogieman for all these all right people who thought that he was funding Antifa and all this
What is Bessence and Soros's relationship now?
That's a good question. I don't know.
Are they still?
I don't know.
I would assume probably not.
I mean, Bessent was even like a Democrat up until a certain point because he's gay and he would...
Besson's gay?
Scott Besson's gay, yeah.
You didn't know that?
I mean, I, I, strange.
Yeah, he's gay.
And he donated to a lot of Democrats in 2008 and like in the 90s, you know, for like gay marriage and all this other stuff.
I guess sometime in the last like 15 years, though, he's like, he is, he's like that, the inverse of that one meme.
He's like socially liberal but economically conservative.
or something, you know what I'm saying?
Like he's, he, um, his kind of like, I guess you could say allegiance to monetary orthodoxy of neoliberalism has kind of led him to this point.
But I guess what I'm saying is that like the moves he's made in the last week trying to paper over the $40 trillion debt, saying they're going to do economic D-Day against Iran, you know, trying to.
trying to figure out the tariffs.
Do you remember the tagline of the first left behind movie?
Huh.
You know it's faith when you, it's all you've got left.
That's what that makes me think of whenever I hear Scott the sentence saying,
we're doing economic D-Day, let's be wrong.
But that is all they have.
A country we don't have any trade relationship with.
That is faith.
Yeah.
That is true.
And it is all they have left.
Yeah.
And that certainly is all they have left.
I'm, you know, there was this article in the New York Times.
about, they interviewed a lot of like Scott Besson's old acquaintances and colleagues and peers
and every single one of them, including his old mentor, are like, what the fuck is he doing?
Like he's completely shooting himself or at least torching his legacy, what legacy he did have.
And a lot, which is whatever, I don't give a fuck.
Like these people are all cretans.
Like I wish they would fucking, you know, die and all the other things you could say.
But like, I am genuinely from a storyteller's point of view, like, curious as to the psychology of this individual.
Like, how is he willing and why is he willing to torch his entire legacy and career for this one guy, Donald Trump?
It's like the Natalie Harp thing, like which we've talked about, which we talked about on Monday in the Patreon.
Imagine writing those letters about a grotesquery like Trump.
Imagine taking down the global economy, devaluing the dollar and destroying the dollar and destroying.
destroying your legacy for that.
For essentially the monster at the end of substance.
Once again, I have to ask, like, and I know we've been doing this for fucking almost
10 years now.
We've had Trump for almost 10 years.
What do people see in him?
Like, how are they still so enchanted?
But, you know what I'm saying?
I don't...
It is a cold.
I guess even the farmers and ranchers now, though, are selling on it.
But, like, I'm still shocked, though, that a guy like best instill in the administration.
Whereas in his first term, Trump's first term, people weren't fucking leaving all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, how is he still in there?
Like, people, yeah, that is true.
Trump won, it's like he fired people like every other day.
Or they would quit or, like, they just couldn't handle it?
I think it's how Trump got his jollies then.
Now he's like, obviously so checked out in old and tired, you know?
He is checked out.
He's just like, who it was there is fine.
Ask him about housing policy.
He's like, it doesn't even matter.
He literally said the other day, he's like, it's just all a big yawn.
Yeah, it's all big yawn.
It's like, it's like, things only matter if they, like, excite him or animate him.
Or benefit him.
I mean, I can't, you know, I'm not trying to sound like a lib here, but like, genuinely, like, he, the entire second Trump administration has been one massive enrichment scheme.
Right.
And so, like, that's why he's checked out.
He is old as fuck.
Don't get me wrong.
But he's made $8 billion in two years.
Like, he's kind of rigged it in such a way.
And, like, Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation, all these people have rigged it in such a way that, like, at this point, it kind of can just run an autopilot.
you make all the food terrible and poison everybody
you throw everybody off of health care
or health insurance
and through all these like little tweaks
you you sort of
you know thin the human capital stock out of the weakest
yeah and accumulate mass wealth in the top
mass wealth at the top it's like
it's just going according to planes
it's pretty much right
but we're all sitting there like
no surely this won't like carry on it's like
this is exactly what they want to do
yeah and that's not a conspiracy
it's like intentional.
And that's why he's checked out
because it kind of can just run an autopilot.
Like them,
I'm like the Supreme Court ruling this week
that I think part of Trump's
mail-in ballot
policy will get to be enacted.
Which is what?
Like I think that they're restricting
certain kinds of melon voting.
I wonder who that's going on.
Yeah.
And there's not a single fucking Democrat
left they could like mount a challenge to this no hekeem jeffreys is meeting with jerry kusher i mean he met with jerry they
they met together and they had a conversation on areas where republicans and democrats can work together
where the white house and democrats can work together what do you think that's going to be tom uh israel
data centers no voting restrictions all the bad things that were like going after the trump people for
like the democrats are you forget that's that these are the only places they're aligned this is the thing
If you want to sit here and you want to talk about
like how stupid the average American farmer is
for voting for Trump, fine.
They deserve that.
But there is a stupider fucking group of people
than the average American farmer.
And that's the Democrats.
Because how is it that the fucking farmers,
even they can see now that they've been shafted
and there's no future left in this?
But Hakeem Jeffries is still meeting with fucking Jericho.
There's some common ground to be funny.
That's insane.
Yeah.
Again, though, I mean, you got to call it down to,
You gotta call it fair.
That's exactly what.
Like I said, just to kind of prove my point,
I wanted to read this thing real quick,
just in the New York Times.
I thought this is really incredible.
Man, Trump administration wants
billion-dollar businesses to qualify as, quote, small.
The Small Business Administration
is seeking to vastly expand
the definition of small businesses,
aiming to give much larger companies
access to government contracts,
loans, and other assistance.
The proposal,
Which the Trump administration says would allow businesses to continue to benefit from the agency's programs as they grow amounts to a sweeping overhaul of standards that have changed little in decades.
Many business owners support some increase in the limits on revenue and employees that determine what qualifies as a small business.
But the scale of the proposed increase would also place small businesses in direct competition with significantly larger rivals for contracts and loans, raising alarms that the agency could hamstring the very businesses it was helped to create.
in some industries such as financial investment services,
companies that earn up to $1 billion or employ more than 3,000 people,
more than some publicly traded corporations,
the highest current cap for most industries
is annual revenue of up to $47 million or fewer than 1,500 employees.
So that's already stretching the boundaries of...
When I think a small business,
I think of like me and you opening up a lemonade stand, you know what I mean?
But even by the U.S. government's definition, you can have 1,500 employees and that's considered
small business.
Yeah, make up to $47 million.
Now they're raising it to $3,000 employees and $1 billion.
Said Angela Dingle, the president and chief executive of women impacting public policy,
I don't feel like this change was made with small businesses in mind.
Gee, you think?
Caitlin O'Day, a spokeswoman for the Small Business Administration, said the changes would reward growth, strengthen domestic production, and rebuild key supply chains, which is essential to restoring American industrial dominance and national security.
So it's like what, it's like we didn't have to destroy any of that to begin with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I can even concede that like COVID might have, you know, that might have came out of nowhere.
But even Trump knew about COVID like months before he told anybody.
They just can't help, but like, once again, small businesses, a lot of those small business owners would be like natural allies to the Trump cause.
And probably we are.
I mean, I would surmise most of them.
Most of them.
I think even in fact, most of the analyses I've seen on the socioeconomic composition of the rioters on January 6th.
Or small business.
Most of them were small business owners.
Most of them were failing small business owners.
So it's like the whole...
Now he's kind of betraying the sort of coalition
that actually we're going to do an overthrow of the government for him.
Now they're like, hey, actually billionaires need to be in this equation.
This is why I don't think he's running again in 2028.
It's only predicated on the idea that he can basically rig it in such a way
that there is no election and he just continues.
to be president.
Yeah.
Because...
He can't run again.
He'd have to suspend the Constitution,
name himself like emperor forever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So basically like...
Right.
And what I'm saying is that like there is no constituency left,
which is really funny that J.D. Vance is going to go out there and have to try to
pretend like there is.
Like basically go out there and have to try to piece together what, you know,
three to four members are left.
So the Trump coalition, J.D. Vance, of all people.
You know, it's hilarious.
He's moving like a man who does, what I'm saying,
he's moving like a man who does not expect any future support.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
It's so funny to see a person,
probably the same thing with Scott Besson,
even though Scott Besson's older.
But J.D. Vance made every move of his entire life,
his whole brown-nosed-and-ass life,
to basically squander it all on a generational madman.
You know what I mean?
It's like your whole life was a waste, buddy, and you're my age.
Well, he was basically put in there by Teal to essentially...
Another generational madman.
Yeah.
Basically to essentially cement or bind the freak vote, like the deadender, um, nihilist
tech-obsessed freak vote, you know what I'm saying?
the freak messianic
sex
you know a demographic of the Trump
coalition
and
which is about all that they have left
pretty much
even then like didn't
didn't till himself
like bail for Argentina
I think so
or maybe Lexington Kentucky
or maybe Lexington Kentucky
has been spotted on here more
there's been rumors
but
but yeah I guess
he's not making moves
like a Trump
not making moves like a guy that would like...
And what's really kind of funny about this
is that he is so
self-centered and only cares about himself,
like sort of narcissistic,
that he doesn't even understand
the fundamentals of building a party
and a movement. So basically he's setting
the Republicans up for failure.
Dude, I don't know how many articles I've seen
just this week who are like...
Featuring Republicans who are like,
dude,
you already fucked us with
Iran war.
We have to go out there
and sell for the midterms.
You fucked us
with inflation
and now you're...
That, dude,
this may be part of his plan.
Part of his plan
may be to be
like emperor for life.
It may just be like,
let's just neuter the Republicans
and I'll just stay in
and that's just like
how it's got to be
and the Republicans might go along with it
because they don't have another choice
because they can't run
anybody fucking else in one.
No.
It's one of two things.
Either he's, yeah,
gonna do like he's baron harconin and he's like fucking emperor for life like the massive
rhizant of him worm for that he is right or he's just like oh it's all good or he's just going to
you know go quietly into that good night with the 80 billion dollars he's made you know what I'm
saying like it it doesn't he wins either way he he both wins and unless he gets his shit blown
smooth off yeah he both wins and loses either way because I do
wonder if
he
I don't know
there's something that makes me wonder that if he
leaves office
if he won't
unless he gives himself like some sort
of blanket future
I mean he did give himself immunity from sort
of IRS audits and stuff
um
so sick
but like
the behavior of a man with nothing
to hide
I do think that the Democrats
regardless of who they get in there,
will still try to at least do some sort of legal proceedings against them,
just even as a basic fundraising thing.
You know what I'm saying?
If he leaves.
They could be doing it now, but there's not,
there's no money to be made there right now.
And they don't even have a majority in either in Congress to do it.
There's a reason why I too.
And so I don't think he really wins.
but then again he's made tons of fucking money
so he can basically afford any kind of legal protection
or representation.
If he becomes emperor for life,
that's honestly, if I'm him,
that's the route you want to take.
Because basically,
you call the bluff of everyone
and the only people willing to stand up to him
are people like the Iranians
and the Canadians of all fucking people.
The American people aren't.
We're just going to fucking bitch and whine about it
and just like, man, this sucks.
Because we're all fucking housebroken.
Yeah, and also there's just nothing we can do anyways.
Yeah.
I mean, we can...
Turns out we're the real, Lance, not the Canadians.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That was always part...
That was always what I was saying with that bit, bro.
Oh, okay.
That was the subtext of that bit.
Oh, it was like a classic misdirection.
Yeah.
Yeah, pretty much.
But, uh, I...
Yeah, if I'm him, you want to go in for life.
That's what you want to do.
That's the move.
That's the move.
Yeah.
It's his only, it's really his only play.
You suspend elections, maybe,
what you want to do is suspend elections
and maybe abolish the House of Representatives?
Keep the Senate.
Maybe you keep the House.
He's the only figure in politics brazen enough to go on TV
and make the case of why he should be emperor for life.
Yeah, yeah.
But at this point, he doesn't even seem to really care
that much about that, though, either.
I mean, he's like, his whole thing now is, like,
everything's just a big yawn.
He's just waiting for death.
He wants to be in the office, but he doesn't want to do the duties of the office.
Pretty much, yeah.
You know, he wants to play golf all the time, but still be the main boy that everybody
consults when they need something done.
It is pretty brazen.
It is really, really funny that they are now changing the definition of small business.
And what they're doing now is they're squeezing small businesses, which is fascinating.
Like, they've been squeezing...
Yeah, one of, like, the last, like, coalitions they have.
That's partially what tariffs were.
They were squeezing small businesses.
But I'm just kind of shocked at how...
Yeah, the tariffs were just a wealth transfer.
Right, but with the tariffs, they could still plausibly make this stupid case that, like, well, we have a deficit, and tariffs will help build that out.
And you pay you most in taxes anyways, right?
And we can help lower your taxes by, you know, raising revenue through tariffs.
but like they've shown in the last 15 months that the only taxes they're cutting are for the wealthiest people
and that the deficit is not changing anyways the debt's 40 trillion fucking dollars and the treasury secretary is out here pretending like he can like paper over it without devaluing the dollar and that's just not going to happen and so i guess we're headed for a
It is...
Collapse collapse.
Not a 2008, like,
people lose their homes collapse.
I'm talking like...
Smooth off.
We don't know if we'll be able to even
buy, like, fiberglass-laced
sourdough.
Smooth off.
Yeah.
This story,
listen to this.
In Video, this is in Financial Times,
just to give you a sense of the scale
of the coming collapse.
I say that.
I mean, I do get frustrated
when I get on...
This is why I don't even try to get on Twitter.
these days, but I do get frustrated when I get on and people are like,
you will die in six months.
Fucking everything.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
I don't know what shape it'll take.
I have no idea.
I'm just saying that these trends can't hold.
It can't hold.
Yeah, it just can't hold.
And I'm not discounting the possibility of something to give you happening that kind of gives
us a stay of execution.
But if these trends hold, you can't just keep rating the coffers and emiserating everybody
and think that, well, the dollar's just going to keep trading strongly just because we're America.
That Besson thing is classic desperation, man.
That's bad.
Like, I think that everybody knows it.
Like, Wall Street's pissed off at him, and that's why all of his peers are like, what is he doing here?
Because everybody reads that for what it is.
It's desperation.
But they've been able to kind of coast and paper things over for the last 15 months,
especially the last 16 months or six months since the war started.
But they're reaching a point where there's dementia.
diminishing returns, and there's only so much they can do.
And so Bethent's like trying to, you know, purchase these long-term bonds through the Treasury's own bank account, essentially, is a act of sheer desperation.
And so basically what you're saying, like, these trends can't hold.
Like, yeah, the chickens are, the early signs of the earthquake are starting to make themselves.
No, no.
This story in the Financial Times, though,
I read this last night,
and it was like,
oh, I did a gulp,
a Looney Tunes-esque gulp.
Invidia forecasts 70% sales growth
fueled by relentless AI boom.
Invidia boosted its forecast for AI chip sales next year
as the $5 trillion tech giant
tried to rebut criticisms
that its raft of investments in financing deals
with customers amount to risky circular financing.
The world's most,
valuable company on Wednesday reported revenue of $96.2 billion for the quarter to the end of July
and projected sales up about $108 billion for the current quarter.
Chief Financial Officer Collette Chris said customer demand was set to double, but revenue
would be limited by supply constraints.
The projection, along with the announcement that Amazon Web Services has agreed to start
deploying an additional 2 million of Nvidia's latest GPUs this quarter,
push the shares up more than 7% in Thursday.
Morning trading.
There's something.
This month,
the robust earnings report comes as the CHIP group
faces greater investor scrutiny over how it has deployed its vast balance sheet
to help its customers fund their building of AI infrastructure.
These come on top of investments in many of its biggest customers
in revenue sharing and vast sales deals.
Basically, the point here, man,
is that this is such a
it is a kind of gold rush
on a scale like that it's just
incomprehensible
it's hard to even wrap your mind around
but it too has natural limitations
it's like if you were paying for gold
but there was no gold
pretty much
and basically fueling your entire
GDP off of this
phantom yeah it's a phantom
it's vapor it's you know it's like
I get we live
in a digital world now so I know what people
critique of what I just said would be
but the thing about it
is man is like there's a reason
why these data centers and everything pertaining
to this is just like rammed down our throat
with no sort of like referendum
from the public and it's because
if we don't accept it
then there's
yeah basically that's the gun
that they're holding to everybody's
it's really astonishing it says
your data center revenue but still not able
to say that because they still need to
make us think that there's value in AI or something?
Data Center revenue,
which relates to the company's core AI chip business
that has been the primary driver of its growth,
was $89 billion last quarter,
up 117% year on year.
I mean, look at, like,
we were talking about this on Shopify a little bit,
but like, look at, for example,
China's commitment to this.
Now, these are a more sober,
minded society
forward
civilization
driven people
and their investment
is 650 data centers
in their whole country
which is massive too
yeah
and we kind of view data centers
that's just like
a nascent thing
that's just now getting
off the ground
we already have tens of thousands
here I think we have
5,000
yeah I think
is I thought it was like 50,000
I think it's 5
Europe has 3,000
so the entire continent
of Europe 3,000
that's crazy
across all those countries
Europe is even worse than America because Europe is smaller.
They have 3,000 data centers.
Yeah.
In a time...
That's where I aunt's live.
Sorry, Canada.
But I don't know.
InVITA remains largely frozen out of China's market by strict U.S. export controls and a backlash from Beijing.
I think that the point here is that, like, the last remaining frontier of growth is AI.
And because of the sort of politics with China around this are lack of full control over rare earth minerals and the resources necessary for these chips.
The fact that data centers are becoming increasingly unpopular, like that in and of itself is kind of a time bomb.
You know what I'm saying?
all of this is just kind of
mind-blowing but it's just
all of it is just coming to a head
at the same time
and it makes me
think that there's probably only
one of two outcomes
either Trump just declares
himself God Emperor and we start
to turn ourselves into
some sort of like capitalist
feudalist I'm not going to say techno-neofutalist
but like something along the lines of that
because look
rentier activities
are not an area of growth.
Even though it's everything now.
It's everything now, but yeah,
it's not an area of growth.
It's just kind of like,
it's the maintenance.
You see that with everything
with the subscription model is flailing
trying to like,
see how they can simultaneously
offer less,
but frame it as a value add.
Yeah.
It doesn't meaningfully add to the GDP.
You know what I'm saying?
It is just one of those things
that's like,
they've already got our backs
against the wall,
so they're just going to shake us down.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm saying.
Tell you what it is, man.
It is like, we have,
we have sort of just committed a metaphysical sin by abandoning the tactile world.
Yeah.
Like, to try to turn everything into vapor and monetize that, it cannot be.
It just violates the laws of physics, thermodynamics, the law of everything.
It just does.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
We've basically...
Like even something you might think is digital, like a film or something.
Well, there was a time when they sold physical copies of it,
but then we went away from that.
That ceased to become, that's why Hollywood's in such pitiful shape.
Moving away from the tactile to the vaporous is what's caused us a lot of problems.
That's why we need to start reading again.
We need to get back into books.
Here's the craziest part of that.
We've damaged the world more moving away from tactile.
Like you would think that an added benefit of moving to a digital vapor-based
world would be
ecological
that might be a boon
you know what I mean
and that used to be
the early value add
of like
moving into more
digital and like stuff
in the cloud
and all that stuff
is better if they invite
all this kind of stuff
and it's like
no everything has a cost
or everything has a carbon
um
element aspect of it
yeah but yeah
I don't I don't know
I mean
to me I just read
all these things
is like very desperate
it.
And so,
and
one of two things happens,
either Trump declares
himself God Emperor
or
he just leaves
and John Ossoff
becomes president.
Yeah,
the B story.
We vote our Asov.
I was driving
Ossoff wins
with 96% of the vote.
I was driving the other day
and NPR was doing this
full-on fallatio
like philating of
Osop.
Like,
fucking,
I'm not kidding, Tom.
It was at least a 30-minute thing about how great he was.
Interviewing all these people about how great he was.
It was weird.
I went to the store.
When I was driving to the store, they were talking about him.
And then I get in my, I go to the store, I fucking take a little walk.
I come back to my car 20 minutes later.
And it's still on.
They're like, I think John that stuff is so cool and great and handsome.
And I think he says he's not going to run for president,
but he should.
It's like,
what, is this the news now?
What the fuck is this?
Also, to that end,
there's nobody that says
Beto 2, like,
Ossop.
Yeah, dude.
The time of like the cool middle-aged dad
is going the same way
as millennial cringe.
Oh, I trust me, I know.
It's the time of weird little guys.
Yeah.
And weird old guys.
And weird old guys.
That's true.
There ain't, no,
this ain't no country for an Osop.
That is true.
We need a weird little guy.
We need a guy.
We need like...
A Napoleon.
He was a weird little guy.
We need a guy like Peter Lorry.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, you need a weird little guy.
Yeah.
That is so true.
Yeah.
Either weird little guys or weird old guys.
Yeah.
That's the future politics.
That's future politics.
I don't know what we don't understand by this.
Quit trying to make the like handsome middle age white dad that loves Woutain clan, I think.
That's true.
It's so true.
He's so cool because he listens to Biggie in the car.
Like, no, that guy's...
That guy's gone the same way as fucking all the other millennial cranes.
Yeah, you're right, dude.
What about American culture at this point?
Like, Dolly was the last probably non-freak.
I guess Obama's not a freak.
But like...
No, he's a freak, but a different guy.
But I'm saying, like, physically.
Oh, no.
Like, and dispositional.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Trump is a freak in that sense, right?
Trump is a freak.
When's the last Democratic freak we had?
Ross Perot?
Biden was a fucking freak in that sense.
He was a fucking physical grotesquery.
He was a dispositional grotesquery.
He called a guy fat and tried to fight him.
He was like 78.
What did you say fat?
He literally said his name as fat.
He said, listen, fat.
Listen, fat.
Dude, something that was killing me was the fucking RFK
blaming the measles outbreak on Biden.
It's like, look, I would like to see Biden suffer more
than maybe the vast majority of people on the planet.
But to blame the measles outbreak on Biden is pretty good.
He got to go a long way from getting me to defend Joe Biden.
I'm not even defending him.
I'm just saying that like, it's just like they don't even have the conviction.
They are kind of like liberals at this point, like the MAGA people.
They don't even have the conviction to stand by their own goddamn policies anymore.
You know what I mean?
like because everything is kind of on an autopilot now right like look at the fucking food
supply like they wanted they wanted to destroy regulation they've got it everybody's poison
and they're fucking you know not feeling good they got glass in their intestines so just
stand by it if you wanted that and then fucking just own it up to it stand by it to be like listen
we meant to put that fiberglass in you it pairs well with the microplastics already
taking up resonance in your tissues yeah
even do that.
They can't even do that, man.
Well, we'll see how it turns out, man.
I gotta go.
Any final thoughts
on Dolly or,
oh, dude, fuck, we should have read this.
But I, I guess we could read it,
but I got to pee really bad.
Is it in the New York Times?
Is Andy Beshear the next Bill Clinton?
I've not read it for you, no.
I've not read it, though.
So I don't know how it is.
You're right.
Hey, hey, what is?
Andy Beshear the next one.
No, I don't think he has the sexual temperament.
Yeah, well...
There's a lot of bad things I can say about Andy Bashir,
but I don't think he's a sex criminal.
Is he the next, Bill Clinton?
Is he...
Does he go to Epstein's Island?
If not, then no.
Yeah, if not, it's a flowchart.
You have to waste 1,200 words on that.
Maybe we can tackle that Monday.
We'll tackle that on Monday, maybe.
All right, well, thanks so much
you can go check a classic
banger of an episode on our Patreon
that we put out on Monday.
Go listen to that. That was the most
whacked out thing we've ever done.
It is. It's down our sacabella.
I have an update for you on that, by the way.
I'm not going to talk about it on that.
We could talk about it on Monday,
for sure.
Now, I'll save it for Monday.
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