Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 460: The Failing Jerusalem Post

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

Aaron and Tom discuss lying about your cousins, modern attitudes about tv size, and Zionists wanting indebted Americans to fight for Israel....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just so happens, I'm in the market for a new TV. How are you? Well, listen, I've had a change in philosophy. I spend many nights sleeping on my couch despite having, you know, a pretty cozy bed, pretty cozy sleeping atmosphere. But I've made, I guess, error from an early age of I've always slept in front of a TV with the TV on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:25 And like sometimes, like, I can have a hard time going to sleep if I just, like go to my bedroom where there's no TV because I tried to you know make it like sort of a zen garden thing yeah I have a hard time sleeping in the zen garden because I just lay awake with my thoughts but if I go like if I just go like lay on the couch and just turn something on I'll be out in like 20 minutes yeah yeah yeah you know not a lot I'm not going to lie it is not to cut you off but it is crazy to be um because for a minute I didn't have a TV in my room um I first I had a TV but then I didn't have a cable box I got rid of the cable box had the TV with the you know,
Starting point is 00:00:59 Roku, whatever's hooked up so I could watch whatever I wanted to. But like, I found out that, like, as a writer and,
Starting point is 00:01:07 you know, someone who reads a lot as well, I just wasn't really doing that in my room. Like, my room wasn't the workspace. I guess that's why people separate between,
Starting point is 00:01:16 like, having a bedroom in an office, you know? So, but still, though, it was hard to go to sleep
Starting point is 00:01:21 sometimes because I'd be like, well, I mean, I guess I'd watch, like, you know, interstellar and 4K
Starting point is 00:01:25 on my cracked, you know, Google pixel, you know what I'm saying. Right. The way Christopher Nolent intended you do see that film, you know. Exactly, yeah. See, exactly how the artist intended.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, my problem is that I've, you know, traditionally I've relegated my bedroom to just being a fuck palace and... A fuck palace. And part-time sleeping zone. I'm more... I'm more of a fuck Ziggurat type of dude, you know what I'm saying? You're a Ziggurat guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're taking it back to the code of him rob and shit.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm hauling my ass up. You don't know what to fuck. Welcome, every Sunday. Well, hold on a second. Before we start the show. Where you got, you got Rex on like a, what's the smallest TV a man can have in his room? Like, I was at this thrift shop the other day
Starting point is 00:02:16 and saw like one was like little, um, it was like, you know, one of those things that you'd like put in. I forget what they're called. Like some kind of disc. And then it's like a, it's like, basically like, a combo DVD. Oh, that's the shit that I see this guy constantly on the martyr bus. He comes in with, I guess, it's a portable Blu-ray player or a DVD player, and he puts it in his lap. He's got it with the batteries or like charge, pre-charged?
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah, it's pre-charged, but I don't know how long the charge lasts, or I think you could also plug it into the wall. It has like a wall adapter, so you can plug it in as well. So if we're going to insist on becoming hard media people again, as has been talked before, and there's a strong movement for. We got to also be prepared to schle around like wildly inconvenient hardware. You gotta pull the thing out
Starting point is 00:03:05 like you're about to, I mean, I guess you could also use like a laptop, but I don't know. Or an iPod, I guess. Or an iPad, I guess. But it just reminded me when I see him on the bus sometimes, he's like, I don't know, man, like, it's like, you know, I guess when portable DVD players came out,
Starting point is 00:03:20 you know, and people were really, like, psyched on them. And it was just like, dog, there's no reason why you need to watch like contact, you know, or the Matrix, I guess, you know, or any movie on the bus for like 45 minutes, but he just pulls it out of his bag and it's, it's kind of big and I mean, it looks cumbersome, but, you know, it's his HD entertainment, you know, I'm not hating. Right, right, well, yeah, what the fuck am I doing? I'm not doing shit on the bus. Staring out the window and Rosalie. Strolling like every other idiot on this place. My man's over here just, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:50 it reminds me when I was a kid and, you know, you'd go on these like school trips and stuff. And I had the Sony Walkman or the disc man. But without the skip protection, the bus hit a bump like, you know, that shit was. You got some dick a DJ and like at the club type of shit? Dude, I remember. I can remember the last time I remember having it was the days after 9-11 and Jay-Z's blueprint that came out.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And I was burning up the blueprint, kind of wondering what the future was. And frankly, it was a little, you know, about what I thought was going to be not great. But I remember that. every time we hit a bump you know you'd be like was that on purpose not you know no yeah one of the many potholes in Atlanta but um you know to answer your question real quick I guess like uh I I recommend OLED TVs uh the screen as opposed to like many LED or LCD
Starting point is 00:04:42 basically like the blacks are true blacks so um all the pixels um I guess they have their own like kind of light color I guess so when you are watching a scene with like you know dark colors or it's a dark scene, the pixels turn off, shut off completely. So it's like a true, true black. It's not like backlit like an LED is or perhaps it may be. I don't know, listeners can correct me on this with the tech stuff. But dude, get it for a, get like a, for a bedroom, get like a 43 inch, you know, 48 inch TV, you know. 48, that's what I got in my living room, dog. Not for the living room, you need like a 55 65. What? Above.
Starting point is 00:05:20 So you tell me, you tell me I've got a, an inadequate tickney. living room set. I mean, it depends on how far, I mean, all of this shit is just like relative, but I guess supposedly it depends on how far away you sit. 43 in the bedroom dog is like, that's decade. I guess, I guess it depends on, I'll be making this analogy. I guess it depends on how far away you sit from the TV.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Like if you got a small dick and you've beaten your meat, but you're a big guy, I guess it looks pretty small when you're looking down, you know what I'm saying? So it's all about relative distance, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's true. That's true. It's like you think you might just need a little bit more of a V-taper and you might just line up.
Starting point is 00:06:00 You don't know. It could be a matter of perspective. Or maybe you got to lead in closer a little bit. That's right. Well, I'll certainly keep that wreck in mind, at least where the technology is concerned, the size. I don't know. God damn, sir. Now, you can't go to Best Body get a bigger dick, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:17 You're just like, yeah, get you a 43 inch for the foot. Sir, what do you need? Do you need it in? Do you need HDR plus? Like, what do you know? I'm going to say, I'm told that 43 inches is the minimum for the bedroom. Imagine going to Best Buy talking to the store associate. Like talking about TVs, but it's all in a window, thinly veiled in a window.
Starting point is 00:06:38 No, I'll tell you, like, you say that. I was seriously thinking, like, 16 inches? Do they even carry a 16 inch anymore? They don't carry 16. I don't even think they carry 16-inch laptops, bro. God, so the screens, since I've really been dialed into, the screen sizes have really shot up they have also what's the smallest they get they make now hold up to yo wait my computer okay i'm straight i thought my computer froze for me there the
Starting point is 00:07:03 smallest tv they make um yeah tvs to be good tv tv tvs um i guess like i mean like they only make really 4k TVs now i mean 40 yeah 43 inches that's that's the one i have so you mean tell me what i got the living room right now is like the base mob that's the miniature model. See, when I got it, that was a boyfriend size model. You know what I'm saying? I mean, like, yo, dog, you think about it like now. How have attitudes changed towards screen sizes? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yo, dude, it's the same thing with smartphones. Bro, people, I think everything is, I think we're all, I think that we've, we've kind of went over this kind of theory about technology throughout the podcast. like Terrence and I were talking about, we've talked about, but I'm especially remember Terrence and I were talking about like screen sizes, like in cars, you know, and how they're getting bigger and bigger. And cars themselves is something that we've all three have discussed. It's like you can't really make things better or more efficient.
Starting point is 00:08:07 But I guess in true American sort of exceptionalism, everything has to be like bigger and larger. Well, they don't even give you a tax break until up to a certain poundage threshold. I think it's like overseas, I forget what it is now, but like you have to have a certain size vehicle to qualify for the tax break. Yo, how does that, how does that work? If it's too small for a tax break. That's like, that's the, that's the community most in need of the tax break. That's the community most of the need of savings and good news.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I mean, I think, I think honestly, man, I think we've maybe been leaned a little bit too much towards like. the size queens and I think we need to respect you know little little screens little things you know what I mean you know whether it's your phone or you go you know just love what you got love what you got you use what you got what you got right it's the most it's not the size
Starting point is 00:09:05 it's the motion of the ocean you know what I'm saying what's what's the equivalent for screen size oh man dude do you mean to tell me that I've had people over to watch movies and stuff and they've went they've gotten the car when they left and it was like It's pretty good movie, but I mean, the screen left for something to do is out.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I couldn't see shit, man. I felt like I had to be like a little kid where my nephew, for example, I mean, I guess this is a dad thing too, where he stands up with his hands on his hips right in front of the TV, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, they park right in front of the TV. Just transiently, dad's just transiently watch movies, you know what I? Nah, it's like, you know, if you have too small of TV, your boys would be like, yo, can we just like both get up and move the couch closer to the TV, you know? Well, now I know why nobody wants to watch sports. They're like, oh, man, I would, but I think we're going to go over to Josh's house and watch the other. I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Then I go to Josh's out. Josh's got a massive TV. Like a 75-inch, 88-inch TV. And up on the wall nicely, you know what I mean? No, when they come to your crib, anybody else crib with a small TV, they got to pull out the like the binoculars, you know? Or maybe a monocle, you know, a telescopic monocle. Yeah, yeah. And my couch sits a decent ways away from the TV.
Starting point is 00:10:20 To me, it's, to me it's normal. Yeah. No, it is normal. But I have to see it every day. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it is normal, man, because I mean, I, like, what's the average TV, would you say?
Starting point is 00:10:30 The average, I would say the average is about 55, 55, 55 inches. So that's cruise and altitude right there. Yeah, that's, that's cruising altitude. That's the new boyfriend size. That's the new boyfriend size. And you invite somebody over and they're like, okay, like, you know, this is moderate. This is adequate.
Starting point is 00:10:47 This is good enough. It's alright, brother man, TV's getting cheaper, you know? Maybe not penises yet, but TV's getting cheaper. You got to, I guess I got to work on my technique. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's true of those for the opening week of September. Third day, 2026 year, my lord. I'm Tom Sexton, going heads up today with my man Aaron Thorpe.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Terrence sends his apologies. He had something come up and had to pull out. But we're small, but we're mighty. indeed, skeleton crew, but we got it. I was going on a walk this morning. I was shipping gears away from the TV size plane stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I was going on a walk this morning and one of my neighbors from Scotland. And I said, hey, Jeff, warm enough for you? You know? And he said something unintelligible because I can't ever make that word of yourself. But I went over there and just kind of chatting with him.
Starting point is 00:11:52 He's like, one of those people I have to like listen intently to then I can't hear for shit anyway because I hear what he's talking about. But I was like, you know, Scott will never get this hot. He ain't lived there in like 30 years or something. You know what I mean? It's like. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:12:10 No, no, you go ahead. No, no, I was just going to ask. Like on that tip, doesn't it get like categorically hotter in Europe, like, overall than a dozen United States? I don't know. That's what I've heard during the summers. I don't know what's going on. I know that in France this past summer. they could like fry eggs just by sticking the pan out the window.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah, that's crazy, man. Doesn't seem like a positive development. No, it seems suboptimal indeed. For sure. So I was talking, my Scottish neighbor, Jeff, I'm assuming that's a G-E-O-F. You got to be, man. Yeah, those guys are very G-O-F. That ain't a J-E-WF.
Starting point is 00:12:47 G-O-F. He's got to be a G-Off. Just my armchair opinion. So I'm talking to him, turning a G-O-F. out he's from kill bribe which is i was like oh yeah that's where jesus and mary chain you know and all those guys got the band and i just got him riffing on and he claims to know all these guys and i'm like are you doing the bar thing with me right now where like you just can be anybody you want because i can't investigate any further into this i hadn't say that to him but it's like it's like when
Starting point is 00:13:19 i tell people that my dad which is this is true my dad was an audio file and he owned a record shop in jamaica and Bob Marley used to frequent it. But that's because, like, Jamaica's small, you know. So if you have somebody as big as he is, I mean, it's not guaranteed, but it's likely that, especially if my dad owned a record shop, that he would know the guy, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:39 But sometimes I feel like I say that and people think I'm lying about my bona fides, you know. Did your dad have any Marley stores? Did he, what did he say? Was he a nice guy? Nah, he didn't have a guy. No, no, he was an asshole. Also, my dad could have been,
Starting point is 00:13:52 he was a fucking dick. My dad could have been lied too, to be fair, but, you know, I believe it. He can't let the truth get in a good story. That's what I mean. That's true. It's true. Listen, they're talking to him. And he claims that one of the Reeve brothers from the Mary chain went to his wedding.
Starting point is 00:14:09 His first wedding. I'm assuming his second way. Well, the second one he was like, no, you went to something. Well, no, I think he got married in Kentucky, and I just find it highly implausible, one of the Reed brothers. Let's make the trip all the way from Scotland. Kentucky? Yeah, to Kentucky. But anyway, he claims he was part of that whole scene and knows Bobby Gillespie from Primal Scream and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Oh, shit. We got to chat. And so I don't know. Maybe I've made a friend that's, you know, seven degrees or even less because since he knows one of the Rie brothers, pair. Does that, does that mean that if you know somebody, I mean, it gets the same way that I'm saying, like, what am I, like, a couple degrees away from knowing Bob Marley? Is that something that? Well, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question, though.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Is there a, that's what I was going to ask. That's why I was T and so far as what's going to ask you. I was like, so if I go out somewhere and somebody hears my accent or something, I'll tell them I'm Sturzel Simpson's cousin, you know, or something like that. Yeah, it's my, yeah, that's my brother, you know, which, you know, well, that's not too. I bet Stu would probably corroborate that for me. But do you ever take liberties like that? Like, with, like, you're out, like, you know, maybe you're talking to some Jamaicans or somebody,
Starting point is 00:15:21 You get to, the topic comes up here, Jamaica, and, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, well, Peter Tosh and Bunny Whaler, you know, that's my mom's little brother. Man, we used to smoke weed together, man, you know, I'm saying. And get, like, again, get jerk pork off the side of the road, you know. You know what, I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to put a, I'm going to put another spin on that. What if it's not just that, because you said the way you sound, right, what if you look like somebody? For example, when I was coming back from, from parts unknown, back to Atlanta this weekend on the Greyhound
Starting point is 00:15:53 it had somebody say to me that I looked like it was funny the way he said it he was like yeah you look like that guy from Rush Hour and I was like nigga you mean Chris Tucker nobody just says that guy from Rush Hour I think we know the two people I think you're just named black guys yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:16:08 there's only two people that you can that are that are well known from Rush Hour but I've often got that I saw Chris Tucker was in the Amstain file so oh shit see I don't okay okay okay thank you for that because I guess then never again based on the band of his next thing he's like
Starting point is 00:16:25 he started assaulting you and say I knew you was on the island you motherfucker he started leading in like hold up you're like no I'm not Chris Tucker or I got Cassidy you know the rapper so is that something you can lay claim to as well like if somebody says like what Cassidy looks like he looks like me apparently but
Starting point is 00:16:42 let me take a peek of Cassie I'll be the judge of this I mean shit if he looks like shit now then I don't want rapper where's he from he's from he's from New York, right? I might be wrong. I can see it a little bit. Okay, okay. If he had, he had,
Starting point is 00:16:57 he's kind of got a sort of a tight fade, but if he had like your haircut, I could see that. If he had my boyish, good looks, yeah. If he had your boyish good looks, yeah. But Barry Reese, aka Cassidy. 44, he's still looking good.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Okay, okay. But man, I do think that with so little, you know, for people to lay claim to and be proud of perhaps nowadays. Like, yeah, man, sure, go ahead, man. Go ahead, you know. Claim that association to a rich, famous person, well-known, talented,
Starting point is 00:17:31 beautiful individual, you know. I want you to say something outlandish next time you're in that situation. You got a little buzz. Be like, yeah, Langston Hughes, my grandfather. And now you're just naming black guys. Oh, yeah, I'm from the letter, man. I knew Martin Luther King, Jr. Yeah. Hey, my mom, of the, my mom marched in fact with that picture on the Selma Bridge.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That's her holding his hand. You know, then you end up starting sounding like Democrats who would have sound like really like liberal, you know what I'm saying, did appeal to the left? Like, yeah, I marched with Dr. Kidd. You mean you didn't march against him? You wasn't one of the people being like, no. Yeah. You know, Gary Stewart, the country singers having what I'm calling a Gary Sonson.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And like it's like, it is true that he is a relative of ours. And there's like, I do have like a. a picture of like his dad holding my mom when she was a little girl and stuff like that. But now I just realize now, now I'm sounding like I'm just taking advantage of the gary Sons and making all this look. The Gary Sons. I love it. Damn.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Oh, shit. What else's going on, man? You've been on the road? Yeah, man, I've been on the road. Went down to, I mean, I went to Florida. I want to say exactly where. Liked it a lot. I will say, though, that this is one thing where just time and the way we perceive.
Starting point is 00:18:47 time and daylight saving times and daylight savings time and time zones especially just maybe not so much time zones i don't know it's just where i was with i was in the panhandle so it's a central time so it's a back one hour so i felt like i was time traveling and for a minute i was sitting in the bus and i was just like man just the idea of like you know not that just time moves forward but it's different in different places and of course i can understand this the rotation of the earth blah blah but um It just seemed frascal to me, you know what I mean? Maybe you should get rid of that shit, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Last time I was on the floor of panhandle, I fell in love with an 82-year-old woman. Now, now, now, now, I know what you must be thinking. And you would be wrong. No, there's not some weird perversion or whatever. But if you're into older women like, that's totally fine. That's totally fine. No judgment here. I was at a friend's wedding.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I won't mention identifying details. we're sitting out of the pool of this resort that we're at. And I was looking over at my friends that was getting married's grandmother. And I was like, I don't know, I shouldn't be having these feelings, but this is like an insanely beautiful woman. Like insanely. And not, and the heavy hand of time had not come for her in any meaningful one. Not to say that, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:13 octogenarians or septuagenarians old people can be beautiful i'm just like you know that's that's actually a good thing no no no what i'm saying what i'm telling you here it is if the hottest girl that that wedding get thrown it at me and i'd had a chance with grandmother i might have went that direction now i don't say follow me give it the best years of a life yeah but well but she didn't appear like i'm i was thinking like oh that's like a woman in her late 50s or something like oh shit so was that what i was thinking, you know, then. So I was like, shit, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Well, I was trying to contain all those feelings or whatever. And then I remember, but it's just, this is one of my moves at a reception. I'm going to, I'm going to twirl you around the dance floor. That's just what I, it's just what I do. So I get out there and I'm, you know, kind of dance with grandma. Did you take it easy at first, though? Because, like, you want to be like, I don't know how to crumpled the dust. No, she moved so fluidly.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Oh, hell, yeah. immaculately. I'm telling you, like, you think I'm like being a weird ass right now. This woman was beautiful. You not, you're not, brother. You not, brother. You're not. Okay. I'm out there.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And then, like, I didn't know how old she was at this point. Like, I'm just thinking, like, my friend's grandpa, like, because it was a second wife, I was like, oh, he's married, like, a younger woman. You know what I mean? And other than her name, which I won't say what it was, but, like, it was very clearly a woman. Probably some mildred or some shit like that. And the same family as that. Now, you know, so we get up there and for a little and Louis, Louis by the Kingsman comes off.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And I'm thinking to, and I remember what she said to me. She was like, oh, I remember when this came out when I was in college. And then the record scratched that I was like, Louis, Louis by the Kingsman came out when you're in college. So presumably from the time between you were 18 to like. 2223 right now I'm just going to go to the tape real quick and the Kingsman Louis Louis let's say the Kent not the Kingston Trio not the Kingsman Quartet the Kingsman 1960s American rock band Louie Louie came out in 1957 Jesus Christ so I started running the math in my head. This wedding's in like 2012. In 1957 she was at least 18 but could have been as
Starting point is 00:22:52 old as 23 so I had triangulated the age there. What would that be? I mean shit dude. 2012 minus 1957. She got to be like 80 something. So if she was born 57 she would have been 55 so plus she was at the oldest. 78. Jesus. And at the young, it's 74. So she was in the 70s. So she was firmly, like,
Starting point is 00:23:22 septuagenarian when I was, like, in my twilight. And I was, I was smitten. Anyway, I shouldn't. What did she tell you? No, what did she tell you that, like, it was a song from, like, some pro-hibition era band, you know, that you hadn't even
Starting point is 00:23:38 heard of, you know? Like some sort of, like, swing band. Yeah, some swing band. I mean, maybe it, time before, you know, we, you know, penicillin was, you know, mass produced, you know. Et cetera, yeah, yeah, yeah. Electricity. I mean, I can't even say that because, like, electricity hasn't gotten to a lot of parts still.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Extensive systems of segregation. That's, yeah. Well, I guess that was still been true when the Kingsmen were out. But in any case, I was like, huh? 74 to 78. Interesting. No, you got to, you got to. I think, man, this is a pretty moot point, but it's just like you have to respect
Starting point is 00:24:19 anyone who has lived that long and seen as much as they have, especially because I feel like you and I's generation, I feel like time and events have been really compressed, you know, and I feel like an old soul sometimes, but actually meeting someone who's like, oh shit, dude, you were born at a time in which like, I mean, you couldn't even fathom, you know, the fact that like you'd have something like Wi-Fi, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know? And telecommunications the way
Starting point is 00:24:49 that we do, and now here you are, like, you know. Now, let me ask you a question now. What if they put on some pasta-pasa shit? You know what I'm saying? Like some dancehold. You think she would have been able to get down? You would have been doubling with her? Yeah, and I would have been adopting a pat-tois.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You think you could, give me your best pat-twa. Can you hit it? No, man, I can't. Come on, it's not problematic for you. It's not. A wag-guan. So do you understand Patois when you visit your cousins and shit?
Starting point is 00:25:21 It depends. If they're within Kingston, yeah, but a lot of my mom and dad's families from San Elizabeth, the country. Oh, so it'd be like listening to me, but in Patois? Yeah, they're hillbillies, essentially, and I do not understand them. It's not that I don't understand them. They just have different, they have phrases. Like, my mom, for some reason, I don't know why she says this, but there's certain things she says, which are kind of problematic.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Like one is Picney, which means little kid, but apparently that's like a, that's like a slur for little black children that's taken from the British. But she also says innocuous things like donkey ears, which means a long time ago. Donkey, I don't know if it's donkey ears or years, I guess, years, given that as a past the time.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yer, and Hillbill be the speak, yurs. Yer, yeah. Why'd you come in here looking like that? Jamaican hillbill. man shit I've always felt a kinship with the Jamaicans for for those of them Bob Marley was a hillbilly it was a hillbilly this is true this is true I think we spoke about this with Alex man perhaps I mean everywhere has hillbillies you know
Starting point is 00:26:27 that's what you got haiti Haiti I mean the name Haiti is basically essentially gesturing toward hillbilly hillbillies yeah so Haiti Haiti anyway we won't get into the you know the dynamics between the Jamaicans and Haitians. You've always spoken that privately with me. Apparently there's work to be done. Yes, there is a lot of words. Bridge and the two communities.
Starting point is 00:26:51 But what I do want to get into today, on the other hand, is this article that came up in a paper of record of sorts. This is from the Jerusalem Post. Now, this is going to be hit home, particularly for me and you because we come from two communities, typically, that fought America's wars, you know? Yeah. I mean, just the hillbilly thing along,
Starting point is 00:27:18 I think in the first two World Wars and maybe Vietnam, maybe Korea, something like 60-something percent of American soldiers came from the ARC, Appalachian Regional Commission counties of Kentucky, West Virginia, and Tennessee. Party of North Carolina, too. Why do you think that is? I mean, I mean, I have, what do you think that is?
Starting point is 00:27:40 I'm not sure why. Well, I think what happens is a guy dressed up perhaps like Uncle Sam shows up to your doors, shows up to your two-room shack and says, and he's playing a game of three-card money except there's two cards. And on one card it's the coal mines, and on the other card it's the military. Right, right, right. And depend upon how curious you are about the world, I guess, and how not afraid to die you are because the other option is, well,
Starting point is 00:28:14 and die in a coal miner, I could die in the war, and then you attach all the feelings of valor and stuff to it, too. I think there's like a pretty easy sell to make to poor boys, but it's the same thing in black communities, which also when I'm talking about these communities, I'm not exclusively talking about whites either. I don't like to play in black hillbillies too, not just in Haiti and Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Right, right. I mean, essentially it's sort of like, well, what out do you have in life? you know what I mean, and the supposed honor that's bestowed upon that, you know, even if you're fighting for a country that sees you as trash, you know, whether it's white trash or it sees you as, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:48 subhuman, you know, well, either way, black or white, poor black or white, you know. Did you ever almost get seduced into military or police? Oh, yeah, dude, yeah, man, the military, I know it sounds crazy to people, but before I, I failed out of high school, so before I went to night school, I was just figuring out what to do with my life, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:10 And, you know, a lot of depression and anger. And I said, fuck it, man. I guess, like, I'll just join the military because I can not even just make something by myself. I don't even know what it really was, man, because, I mean, at the same time, I was thinking, like, I didn't agree with the Iraq war. I didn't agree with any of this shit. But it was sort of just a way to leave home to do something different, to maybe gain some benefits in the process. But then, like, I think I started smoking weed and I was like around the same time and I was like, no, I'm not doing that shit. I'd rather serve crack than serve this guy.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Exactly. I'd rather smoke crack than something. Well, I had a similar dalliance when I was in high school. I was something that's bedeviled me. My entire existence basically is just never do anything on time. Right. As it turns out, I'm not very reliable. so I'm trying
Starting point is 00:30:07 anyway so like all the good electives were gone and by good electives I mean like German Spanish 3 you know all that kind of shit They didn't start they just start having Chinese as electives yet You know not then not then I mean I don't know
Starting point is 00:30:26 attitudes might have shifted but then we were still in a A little cyanophobia era It probably still are right It's probably even worse now than it was then. Now they teach it begrudgingly at American colleges. It's like, well, these guys own us now. Yeah. So I had to, there's one elective left, basically.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And I'm sitting there. I remember being in the office, like, signing up for my classes. And I remember this woman, Denise, where there, she goes, I don't know what you're deliberating about. There's only one choice. I was just like, is there any other, anything besides, ROTC, like anything. Because by that point, I'd been listening to enough raping country to know I didn't want
Starting point is 00:31:10 serve this country. And I also didn't, I couldn't get into the police life, which is like the sort of, you know, fallback thing for the military. Right. That and I just, I'm just, you know, there's just, aesthetically, I just wouldn't really, like, I like to wear fatigues, but I like to wear fatigues. It's a rough rider's dirty denim on the back. 100%.
Starting point is 00:31:31 You know what I mean? With a dog collar. you know whatnot but so then I just start breaking it down to them
Starting point is 00:31:39 it's like and I'm almost thinking by staging a walkout like I'm just not going to go to high school anymore I guess
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'm just go get I made a stink about this because I was like can you mean to tell me you can't
Starting point is 00:31:52 push one more fucking chair in German one yeah right no it's filled up no there's some
Starting point is 00:31:58 there who don't even want to be in the class you know well then that's what my other
Starting point is 00:32:02 thought and move was like, well, I'll do this ROTC thing for a hot second and then I'll get somebody to swap out with me or whatever and see if we can work something out. I was trying to do shit like this one. I was like, this is just how I've always been trying to talk my way in and have stuff. Right, right, right. So I was like, okay, I'm going to do this, but under one condition, I'm not twirling a fake gun and I'm not wearing this fucking gay-ass uniform. And I think I said that because you could say that at that time.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Exactly. I'm not saying that to say that now. I'm just saying at the time. Those were the times, unfortunately. Now, put this in perspective, what I was wearing in that office was Nelly had a clothing brand called Vocal at that point. Vocal. I've never heard of this.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah, and I was wearing a Vocal T-shirt with some Sean John Denims and a bejeweled rockaw belt. Oh, you had that shit on. I was doing the V-Tuck. I was doing the V-Tuck, and then here's what I was doing. No, this may be the worst outfit I've ever put together. And I had mismatched Air Forces on. No, bro, no.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I have to say, I have to say to you, that is still, that is still, I've seen dudes down here, especially when they're returing these classic Air Jordan 1 colorways. You know, like, dude, I have the black, the royals, the black and blue ones. I've seen people wear those with the classic bread color way, the black and red ones. That's still very much a thing. But mismatch Air Force One. You were ahead of the game, brother. You had a color.
Starting point is 00:33:33 No, no, no. I didn't tell you which Air Force ones I missedmatched. Oh, no. Okay. I had one on one foot was a high top. It was gray with the blue sole and blue swoosh. Okay, but the high top ones that last. Like the George Tau.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Like the Rashid Wallace. Yes, yes. Okay. But no, but not the Georgetown color. It's like Royal Blue and Gray. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's the Rashon Wallace ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And on the other one, I had the white on white. low top with a gum salt. So there was no universe where you could even like, it was like two very different shoes. That's like we're in a high heel and wear like a chocolate up, like a slipper or some shit. It's exactly what it was like. It didn't feel good on feet, but I thought I was killing the game. So when I show up at RFTC with this outfit, you can imagine their first thought was, this guy's not soldier material anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:25 He's not going to cut it out. So they gave me a little shit because like I guess word had traveled that I had like sort of put up a little bit of stink of this in the front office. Anyway, I go there and first sergeant Wayne Watts, he tried to make a soldier out of me. And I got to say, they did meet me on some of my terms. I didn't have to wear the uniform. I didn't have to twirl the fake gun. Okay, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But they did put me through like the physical fitness part of it. And when that happened, I had the best tennis season of my career that, open me up for some like, you know, scholarship offers and things like that. So in the end, I have to say, I don't like what the Empire stands for. I don't like what they do. But if you could just get a hold of some of these training techniques, I was strong as an ox. I got real fit, you know? Can you, you think you think now that like, because I've been thinking about it, man, like, I just want to, I mean, I know I seem in shape, but as I always say, I'm slowly dying inside, you know?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Like, my body is like just like. Or do you think physically? Oh, all of it. All of it, all of it, brother. Mentally, spiritually, everything. Physically, like every, every beat of your existence is in peril. Brother, I have, I've told you, I've sciatica. So it's been acting up, especially on that long bus ride, 10-hour bus ride.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So I was just thinking, man, like, you know, I don't think I have the wherewithal to join the gym. I think that if I had somebody to go with, I would feel more encouraged to do it. I just can't have Niggas seeing me Like dying on a treadmill Or you know Having weights fall on me Because I'm too weak
Starting point is 00:36:02 But maybe if I could just go to boot camp For like maybe a couple months And be like I don't actually want to join the military I just want the rigorous training To get my ass in shape And then when I feel like You know I've done enough Then I could say I'm not gonna die for Israel
Starting point is 00:36:19 You know and just be out You know Well it turns out Turns out that That's that's a choice you might not have a say in the matter if some guy named A.J. J. Jaff appeals to the higher powers in America. This is from the Jerusalem Post. The war with Iran will not be won through airstrikes. So what's left? This is an opinion piece.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Congressional recognition of minority independence, debt relief for indebted young Americans, and a Beijing deal on Iranian oil are the three options that haven't been publicly discussed. Okay. Where's he going with this? Okay. Take this journey, one. The Pentagon reportedly asked outside analysts this month for creative ideas on Iran. Well, when you're getting your ass handed to you on a platter,
Starting point is 00:37:13 and there's literally no off-ramp and literally no way you can win. And the only way this ends is if you cut them with $350 billion check. I mean, I'm just thinking creative. You do have to. get creative if those are the serks but but creative especially when we're running out of missiles it's like what do you mean we're going to start using trebuchets and launching boulders at iran like you know that kind of creativity listen here's what i'm thinking here we've traditionally been had our hat handed to us by nations that employed asymmetrical tactics this is true what if the united
Starting point is 00:37:49 states military becomes an asymmetrical military what if we're employing like guerrilla tactics. What if we dispense with the drones and technology and all that stuff? Right. We got a lot of terrain here. You know what? You know what? I would say not to, uh, before you continue. Not to say that I think that the empire should, you know. Oh no, no. As, as, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:09 as, as, uh, as Thomas has said from Pentejo time, if I was a military general, I would do everything I could possible to make sure there as many casualties inflicted on our side. You know what I mean? But, but I was thinking, um, before you get into you, I was thinking I was watching this on CNN news
Starting point is 00:38:25 clip yesterday or the segment where some military god man i fucking forget i forget some military secretary i'm not sure of his name i apologize for that american yeah american yes american he actually had um he actually resigned over uh beef with hegseth because uh he the sky his name i cannot remember he wants to modernize the military i guess this is more um drone warfare um less less actual corporeal warriors, right, as Hexeth likes to call them. And Hexeth seems opposed to that. And, I mean, I think it's all about LARP with these guys. I mentioned that a couple episodes ago.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I don't think that they really care about how many people die because they're never going to fight these wars, none of these guys ever have. But there's something to them that rings as more carnal or more true. If we have actual, you know, bodies, even if those bodies are dropping like flies, you know, It means that I guess we're not a cisified, you know, army or military, you know, because we're not relying on technology, like AI or drone warfare, even though we fucking are, you know. You know, here's what I think real men need to sit down the table and talk of that. Like, I think we should modernize the military.
Starting point is 00:39:43 What that means is we should decide any conflict over like a chess board or something. Yeah, 100%. You know what I mean? It should be like that episode of Star Trek, I'd mention in the Chapo episode we had done, where the war is fought between computers, but I mean, I guess in that episode, people actually do die. But yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:40:00 You're like, now that I think of it, even those methods are violent and there wasn't. Because they're not even fighting. They're not even physically fighting. They're digitally fighting, you know, which, you know what I mean. Well, I just, uh, well, I'm not sure that modernizing the military to be almost exclusively drone warfare is, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:21 the thing about the drone warfare thing is like what the sale is to when they actually cared about selling stuff to the American people right not that any of this matters because we live in a bloodthirsty fucking empire right so it's all movement we're talking about this it's like we just need to America needs to take several say and take all the seats go into that long night you know yeah yeah yeah well take a long walk off a short pier but like yeah the idea of just like it's like you know it's like supposed to be like surgical and you could like do talk but like let's be honest that's not happening especially not with uh you know our
Starting point is 00:41:03 close personal friend israel who likes to blow up city blocks to just make a right and i don't even know if you could ever say that's ever really happened because you just think of like you know like just vietnam you know i mean just firebombing villages you know inflicting as many casualties as whether or not they were, quote, fighters, you know, enemy combatants, you know what I mean? Well, then you think about, like, all these flock cameras, you know what I mean? Like, which, you know, I was in the Atlanta airport the other day. It's like, y'all just got flocks all up and down.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Dude, it's, I, y'all mention this to y'all. Which the motherfucker lives in Atlanta, right? Yeah. It's stationed. Yeah, it's stationed here. Actually, I, I'd mention this too. Atlanta is the most surveilled city in the world. I mean, in the United States for sure,
Starting point is 00:41:48 I only say in the world as a caveat. because reporters will often say that outside of China, Atlanta is the most surveilled city in the world. And not even want to, I don't even want to parse through that. But I live in this country. I live in this fucking state. I live in this city. And yeah, dog, yeah, it's, they're fucking everywhere, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Well, and my point is it's like what, and they like, the whole thing is they build like profiles on us. And they like, you know, probably still bad off of our devices. when we want to buy all this kind of shit. I don't know when folks are all going on with it. And they use it as sort of a pre-crime thing. Like everybody's doing like the pre-crime thing. So they build the case on you before you've ever been like arrested for anything or whatever. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:33 And like you hear all these stories coming out of like, you know, if somebody fitting this profile committed this crime, but they can't find that person. They'll just find some if it fits the profile. So it's kind of the bite that fits the wound type of situation. But in any case, like I just don't like the idea of the rise of flock with the rise of like hyper individualized drone warfare. It seems like we're about three steps away from just targeted killings of citizens, which was like, if you think about the grand trajectory of history, remember what we were all worried about after 9-11 and the Patriot Act and all that stuff is our privacy coming to an end, right? They used to be like a hot button topic in politics. And then gradually over, you know, one or two decades, we're here now.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So guess what? The thing we're like kind of squeamish about is like, oh, state violence against U.S. citizens and all this kind of stuff. So it's just not, I mean, it's probably already happening. I mean, it is already happening. I mean, there's like, you know, document that American citizens have been killed by the, you know, whatever. But like, you can imagine a world in 20 years where like that's a lot more prevalent, normal and commonplace for people just to, you know, you speak up against the government or whatever. and you just get fucking mopped by a fucking drone the size of a goddamn titsy fly. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Or something. Dude, 100% I mean like something we talked about before, but it's like this atomized civil war where I think you are being encouraged and have been encouraged to like persecute your neighbors and attack your neighbors over political views over religious differences or race, whatever the case. They're getting us mad at each other so they can enact this stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And so you just care. You're desensit. ties to it a little bit less. I mean, you don't need any fucking advanced degrees to see what's going on. Same with the goddamn shock gloves they're making hearing Lexington and shit for eyes. Shot gloves? What are those? I didn't hear about those.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Ice agents are getting gloves manufactured about a couple miles from my house where, like, you, they're basically taste somebody by putting their hands on. Jesus fucking Christ, dude. There are using them in schools. Dog, there's something so darkly, I don't even know the, I don't even know the frame of reference for it, but there's just something about, you know, it's not even, okay, I guess there's drones, drone warfare, the fly cameras, which have some sort of indirectness to the terror, but there's something about actually laying hands of somebody and not even just putting a knee
Starting point is 00:45:06 on their, like on their neck, but touching them to apprehend them that you are already harming them by shocking them. That's fucking insane, dude. Yeah, I mean, it's great. And then you just think about like, I mean, you look at like the George Floyd protests erupted and stuff like that. Part of that is like the unjust nature of it and the police violence of it all and just like the sort of like obscene nature of the whole thing. But part of it too is also people don't want to live in a world where like you don't have a say over like who can touch you and not. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:45:38 You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Yo, how many times have you seen, have we seen videos or I've been in situations, man? Like when I got kettled During the George Floyd protests And you know Much worse things happened to other people In Atlanta in other cities
Starting point is 00:45:53 Than what happened to me But I was just like He's up there on horseback in front of CNN bill Yeah yeah We were we well Like they had they had Of course they had their shields They had their fucking sound canons
Starting point is 00:46:04 And shit like that And dude I just didn't I was like yo get off me Don't touch me don't touch me you know And I even had to kind of sort of Even in that moment I had to be like well I guess I'm resisting arrest if I like try to push this guy off of me or whatever you know um but these are national guard dudes
Starting point is 00:46:17 i just can't how many times we've seen videos where people like yo get off me get off me but you don't even you can't even passively resist in that sense because you're just like you know but it used to be the case i mean just speaking to sort of these slow erosion of our rights like it used to be that cops couldn't just do that i mean of course that doesn't mean much if you're like from the black community who's you know obviously been on the business end of like policing for time immemorial but like technically you know of course you know whether this is like you know there was like ways you could police and not police like but now like all that stuff is just kind of out the window and
Starting point is 00:46:54 they just kind of have a blank check to like proceed with caution and like getting in this sort of Israeli pre-crime mentality and when I say that I'm not just like picking on this like it's a very American thing too but like also we get our police get trained up by the idea right say that you know like the nail neck the nailing you know I know we I know we got to read this article but just again, man, just imagine that the fact that like before you even charge someone with a crime, before you even are sure of what they're doing, you have the ability to inflict pain upon them by simply touching them, not even shooting them, not even pulling out a taser from it, using it from a distance, but you can touch them and immediately subdue them, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. Well, without, without any sort of due process or anything like else, like imagine if you get like, you got like a heart condition that like, right, rhythm condition. A pacemaker. You could kill somebody. Paceemaker. You could kill somebody easily just by doing that, and they didn't do anything. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Do you know what I mean? And it's almost like, like, America and Israel is sort of taking this stance that, like, there's an acceptable amount of, like, bodies in order to meet our end that we can, like, have. You know what I mean? They're treating us like they used to treat, like, rat shit on the top of Coca-Cola can. Well, under a certain threshold, it's, you know, not dangerous. So they'd be done the wiser or whatever. Exactly, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Anyway, sorry, I'm going off on tangents now. No, no, no, no. Go ahead, bro. The Pentagon reportedly asked outside analysts this month for creative ideas on Iran. That request itself is worth paying attention to. Over 180 days into the war that produced the most intensive American air campaign since Iraq in 2003, the CIA has now confirmed what the strike data was already reflecting. First, Iran's military capacity did not collapse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah, yeah. I think anybody with two eyes and who can read, you know, you know. Second, air power resolved neither the institutional problem nor the negotiating problem. Third, the Pentagon still lacks the tools needed to end the war with the Islamic Republic. Three moves remain available and must be calculated within the Pentagon and the American administration. I love that like, I love these ones. It's just like somebody writing an opinion is like all of a sudden, high level. But in fairness, in fairness, I think anybody, not saying that Iran deserved to get
Starting point is 00:49:19 attacked or anything like that. Obviously, I'm supporting the Iranians in this. But it's like any fucking idiot off the street could have mounted a better fucking, I mean, that's, that's, this is something we mentioned before. That's if you want to win though, Tom. I don't think that we actually want to win. I don't think that we have, and when I say win, what would that even mean, right? I mean, it's, we're already, we're already inflicting, um, fucking horrific crimes, um, damaged casualties in the area. But if it went to, we're school children on that shit. Exactly. And what?
Starting point is 00:49:54 And all for what? Uh, gas north of $4. Dude, I saw, I saw this as funny because on CNN when it's not saying that any of that is worth any, even a great benefit. I'm just saying. But see, what it is, though, is that CNN now, what I've been seen is that. whenever it seems like it's not just whenever they're talking about um iran and this war you know it's failing war that we're waging um it seems just about any issue they have like a kairon um that or like a legend or whatever a table at the side of the screen or the bottom that shows you
Starting point is 00:50:28 the gas prices how they're rising and falling so even for americans about to you back kalshi and so you can guess what they're going to be tomorrow yo even our disease minds all of this brutality is just linked to, well, how much do I have to pay for gas? Yeah. And that's my extent of caring about what we're doing right now. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's true. Iran is not a nation state in the conventional sense of the word. At its
Starting point is 00:50:53 core, it is a Persian majority governing four other large national minorities with distinctive languages and cultural identities. Some of these communities have long-standing autonomy or independent movements, independent movements, which the Iranian government has worked to suppress by
Starting point is 00:51:09 monitoring them or in some cases confronting them militarily. The four minority groups in Iran consist of the Kurds, who also, everyone Trump basically went to the Kurds and asked them to open up another front and this one, they're like, nah, I think y'all got to. Now, y'all got this. It consists of the Kurds in the western Kurdistan province of Iran and surrounding regions. Awazi Arabs in Kazakhstan sitting on top of Iran's oil. The Baluchis in the South.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Southeast and the Azaries in the northwest. Baluchis? Not Monica. Okay. Okay. My bad. Oh, that's awful. B-A-L-U-C-H-I-S.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I might have literally the pronunciation there, and I'm sorry. I apologize. Together, these populations account for approximately 50% of Iran's over 90 million citizens. Hypothetically, a unanimous resolution passed by the U.S. Congress recognizing the sovereign independence of the Iranian Kurdistan, Awaz, and Balochistan people. would do something no airstrike can do. It would change the internal calculation of every ministry official, every IRGC provincial commander,
Starting point is 00:52:17 every bi-seiz unit, and every Iranian citizen calculating whether the regime survives the year. Didn't we try to do stuff like that in Iraq? Right, right. Like creating sectarian violence and like, like maybe that's the point here. Like, you know what I mean? But he's acting like this would put a tidy bow on everything
Starting point is 00:52:36 if we just recognized all of. Is this guy, This guy is, I'm sure he's Israeli, right? Or American? He's missing a good opportunity to be if he's not. Well, dude, I mean, like, either one, it's like, especially if it's coming from, I should say, maybe a Western sort of point of view, right, about antagonism is that as long as we divide the people and then attack certain groups of people, we can win, which is just, it's just rich coming from
Starting point is 00:53:02 a country that has no social cohesion, you know what I mean? Or actually could have social cohesion. anti-social country too because everybody on the planet fucking hate you exactly and all you're doing is which is maybe what you wanted
Starting point is 00:53:16 the whole time maybe you want the whole time to justify your own existence or whatever dude all you want to do is repeat the same schisms that you've created in your own society that has that your society
Starting point is 00:53:25 is like famously despite the fact that America's a big melting pot sure it is but you've tried to you've tried to you've tried to put like you know put like kind of the brakes on that for so fucking long by dividing communities by pinning them against one another.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It was just fucking sick. It would do this at a zero kinetic cost and maximum pressure, something no economic warfare can achieve. Such a move is not without precedent. The Kurds living in Iran, they already told you no, bro. Declared independence in the 1940s.
Starting point is 00:54:01 They had an independent state that existed for one year before the Soviets withdrew their support and the Kurdish republic collapsed in Mahabod. In 2017, the Kurdistan region in Iraq launched an independence referendum. Meanwhile, the Awazi Liberation Movement has been active for decades and sustained Baluchi insurgency in Sistan and Balochistan all provide organizational infrastructure that congressional recognition will legitimize them further in power. Sure, Turkey will object, and Iraq likely will as well, but that is the point. Recognizing these states would force a choice on Tehran that airstracks have not.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It would change course on its nuclear program, its network of regional proxies. They already changed course so the nuclear, they agree. The thing people forget about this whole shit is Iran agreed to basically all the terms and the all steel bomb them. Bro, bro, but hold up, though. That's the thing. But what do they keep saying, right? Every time I keep hearing these pundits talk about it, it's about we have to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. It's like, these Israelis are like paranoid like people that are constantly worried that like their girlfriend's cheating on them or their
Starting point is 00:55:07 boyfriend's cheat non-way. Like, and no amount of evidence to, like, assuage those concerns will sate them. The siege mentality for the pussyless, yo. That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. The siege mentality, that's a good episode. Exactly what it is, dude. Oh, a second.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Fucking janky-ass website, bump me back up to the top. Can't even pay for good goddamn service, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see. Uh, bu, blah, blah. Let's see. Recognizing these states would force a choice on Toronto. that airstructs have not.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It would change course on its nuclear program, its network of regional proxies, and other forward defenses, and its posture in the strait of war moves. Otherwise, Iran would risk seeing the country break in the smaller states that look increasingly toward the Gulf and the West rather than toward Tehran. I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Anyway, whatever. This is not really the meat of what I want to talk about. It's this proposal about what they have in mind for Americans. Anyway, I'll finish this part real quick. Partition would signal that the war was moved past regime change as a coherent objective. You motherfucking. I hate this goddamn fucking what. Okay, anyway.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Regime change assumes the same territorial container with different management. This unbundles the container. America must follow through and not abandon these minorities again. I did too. Economic enlistment for indebted military age Americans. Okay. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:39 The narrative war on the domestic American front has already failed. The Pentagon has not been able to sell this war to the American public because the war has been rhetorically fused with Israel's operations in Gaza and the American public rejects the fusion. What do you mean rhetorically fused? It is the basis of the fucking operation what we're doing. It is the basis of the whole shit. You fucking, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Recruitment numbers are running below what a ground invasion of Iran would norm would require. Estimates for a successful ground campaign against. the Iran's 31 provincial commands and its mosaic defense doctrine run between 750,000 and 1.5 million American troops. Good luck, nigga. Yeah, good luck. The current act of U.S. Army stands at roughly 452,000. The math does not work obviously.
Starting point is 00:57:27 That's funny. He's like, he's like talking about like the American military. Like everybody that's there now is just cannon fodder, anyway. He's like, those guys are useless. What we need is a new fresh blood that's willing to do. die. Based on American history, however, there is a path forward. Not conscription or a draft in the World War era sense, but enlistment through a
Starting point is 00:57:49 quote, debt forgiveness program. But what if you die, though? I want to go ahead and tell you something. I'll die broken penniless before I lift a finger to help fucking Israel. But technically, Tom, if you die, though, you're on your death. It's forgiving, though. You have to pay it off. That's true.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Bro, lock me in the stocks and pelt me with tomatoes. I am not lifting a fucking finger to help you. This piece of shit. Dog, I have $100,000 of hospital debt from the car accident I got into. Hopefully, within this decade will be erased, hopefully, because it's a public hospital, Grady. I have not so much exorbitant college debt that I'm working to pay off.
Starting point is 00:58:27 But I would rather, as you said, I'd rather die penniless and have my hospital debt be transferred to my children than die for, then even fight for Israel. I'd rather put cat food on Clarene. I'm not. Then lift a goddamn finger to help these fucking cockcars. The average American age, 18 to 34, carries more than 40,000
Starting point is 00:58:49 and non-mortgage debt across student loans, credit card balances, auto loans and personal loans with some estimates go as high as $100,000. Yeah, I mean, hopefully, isn't this what they did? The dick is back in the middle of the middle ages and some shit like that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:04 That's prison except now you've got to go fight for Israel. this is the cohort the Pentagon needs well what they're thinking about like dude that what we was talking about on the show with Chopo about GTA coming out and then like that is like the preamble program to this well if you liked your six days
Starting point is 00:59:26 in exchange for six years of extra service for GTA you're going to love this but also too I just find it interesting that Biden and I know it's a different administration. I mean, it's just the same sort of mentality, right? The fact that Biden was helpless to do anything about student loan forgiveness or debt forgiveness or a Jubilee, right? Do you think part of that was to keep this in the back pocket? Yo, I think you have to give people, I do think it's kind of back to what we were saying earlier about, like, you know, whether it's like,
Starting point is 00:59:58 like, poor white or poor black people, right, who've been encouraged or incentivized by their own conditions to join the military, right? It's this promise. But, like, it's like, okay, the Democrats can't offer, and I don't even know this guy's I mean, this guy's obviously a fucking reactionary, but Democrats too, obviously, but they couldn't even offer, I'm saying, like some sort of debt jubilee, right? So that's off the table. And I do think probably it's off the table because you got it.
Starting point is 01:00:27 You got to keep the people hungry, man. You got to have the carrot and the stick. You got to have people starving who are desperate enough to maybe join this fucking losing. in crusade, genocidal crusade in order so that you have your can of fodder. Well, it's not, it's not this similar to what we was talking about, like in the coal mines when my granddad was going to, you know, got, you know, had to enlisted Korea and stuff. It's like, here's the choices. You either, you either die for country, you die for capital, you know what I.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Right, exactly. That's exactly what it is. That's the shitty choices poor kids get, you know what I mean? Like, you either, like, you got to give everything you have at your whole lifeblood. to somebody else to make money for somebody else to make their life a little more leisurely or you got to go actually risk dying for the military which underwrites all that right i mean so it's really the same thing it's not even a choice it's actually one in the same but they're fucking idiots because they don't realize is that like yo when people are so desperate and when you
Starting point is 01:01:26 throw in that people don't even believe in this country's like ideals or values or that they can achieve the american dream why the fuck would they want to go fight for you you know what i mean yeah We don't do that shit. Totally. Yeah, at least like back in the day, there was a national story that people like rallied. And that shit was effective for a long time. There is that no more. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Especially among, especially the one in that 1834 demographic. What the fuck are you talking about? Among niggas who can't buy homes. You know what I'm saying? Can't imagine owning a home, you know? Yeah. It's just not in the cards. For a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Most people, I think. The average, okay, let's see. This is the cohort of Pentagon needs. A federally administered. debt forgiveness enlistment program that fully discharges student loan, credit card loan, and loan balances after 24 or 36 months of service and extends the GI Bill would produce voluntary enlistment at scale. This is not theoretical. It is the American state doing what the American state has always done when it needed staff. It could not otherwise generate. World War II offered the
Starting point is 01:02:26 GI Bill. Vietnam offered college deferments. The post-911 wars offered signing bonuses and citizenship pathways. The Iran War. Like, you know what's funny about all that stuff? All that stuff, all those incentives to join the military, were geared toward creating a better life for you and your family. Right. And it's like, you know, like obviously I'm like kind of separating that from like the corners of the United States military's rod on people all over the world. Obviously when I talk about this. But at the end downstream of that, your descendants are all racked in debt. So what of what use was all the fucking GI Bill and all that shit if like your family is in a worst position now that sort of tells the tale of capital's trajectory in this country it's like
Starting point is 01:03:11 you cannot root for this thing it cannot be redeemed you know no no dude also too i don't know if i'm using this phrase right i have to look it up but it's like this kind of a priori thing where it's sort of like instead of actually being like we as you i guess i'm just repeating what you said it's more that like the incentive is not to make your life better, right? And I guess you can achieve that through national service. It's the fact that we need more bodies and you may not even survive and it's a false hollow promise that you may even survive, but it doesn't matter. Because, I mean, I guess you're, again, like I said, not even as a joke in serious. I guess if you're dead, then your debt's forgiven, right? They don't have to deal with
Starting point is 01:03:52 that shit, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. Yeah. The Iran world will need to offer of debt relief. The economics of the indebted American 20 and 30 something make this the most efficient conversion mechanism available to the Pentagon and the Trump administration. I'm not even kidding. Whoever wrote this needs to go fucking kill themselves. Yeah, they need to not. They need to have
Starting point is 01:04:13 send the blocks tied to run their feet and be done to the deepest body. The deepest body of water possible, dude. Yeah. The moral reading on this is uncomfortable, but states generate the soldiers they need through the incentives that work. on the population they have. The rest of this gets into like a posture toward China. It's the Washington to Beijing agreement on Iranian oil.
Starting point is 01:04:36 That's outside the scope of this conversation. But what I really wanted to focus on was this incentive, this new incentivizing of Americans indebted to go die for Israel. I mean, I think the main problem with that, the main problem, not even that just people won't like are willing to die for this. country. I mean, that's a given. But I think the main problem is that people have accepted that they'll be in debt for the rest of their lives and nothing will change that, especially not a losing war. No, dude. It's like, and part of that,
Starting point is 01:05:09 part of that is on Israel and the U.S., because part of this whole flooding the zone strategy to desensitize us to the carnage in fucking Palestine and genocide and all these things. Like, perhaps an unintended consequence is, guess what? Nobody gives a fuck about dead or anything else now either. Nobody sees a future. Because guess what? You killed that often, everybody, when you fucking thought it was okay to murder hundreds of thousands of innocence. A hundred, a dude, 100% and I mean, like, you know, whether, I mean, I don't know, man. I mean, who are you going to get to join us? You can't, first of all, you can't get the liberal-minded young people to do it because they're disgusted by the genocide. I mean, to some instinctual
Starting point is 01:05:51 level, even the people who might support that genocide, I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, well, I mean, I can't really say this for these people. But again, as you said, man, why would, why would my country take care of me when it can do whatever the fuck it wants, right, with the most vulnerable people on the planet? And this is something I support. So why the fuck would you say to yourself, you're going to throw myself in this lot, you know? No. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I'm not saying, bro. Anyway. People are crazy, dude. They're out of ideas in Iran. And then the newest. And what their float now is sort of a debtors, a debtor's brigade. The death jubilee, not even a debt jubilee, bro. Dude, these people are fucking sick, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Well, anyway. That's all we got today, folks. You're sick motherfuckers, man. I hope you've enjoyed your time with us. If you want to hear more, you can always go up to the Patreon. Patreon.com slash Trillbilly Workers Party. you're wearing for the low, low price of $5 a month today. Get you an extra episode every week.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Aaron, thanks so much for sitting in with me, my man. Yo, thanks for doing a great job. Man, you always say this, that you feel like you are lacking in your MC capabilities when Terrence is not here. But you did a great job today, man. Always love when we have the one-on-one episode. Well, thanks for being with him, man. And thank you all for listening. We'll see you on Monday.
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