Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 463: Blaxis

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

We discuss two big stories out of Boston, and a new place in Uruguay that sounds like it sucks ass.

Welcome to the show this week, everybody. We have a lot to cover, a lot of ground to cover, but, you know, this show, I have a journalistic duty that I have to fulfill. Like when I started becoming a podcaster, they made us do oaths, and we took an oath. Blood off. Well, the oath was to... To defend America against the enemies, both foreign and domestic.

That was one of the oaths. We took several oaths. One of them was that. The other one was to always report the most relevant, hard-hitting stories of the day. And so I wanted to read this article. I wanted to just open up, I don't want to read this article, but I wanted to open up with this article from the Boston Globe that everybody's been talking about. The title of this is,

it's kind of messed up that teachers get paid more than fantasy football commissioners. Is this America's hardest job? You know, there are a lot of difficult jobs, but I would say among them, that probably tears the lowest. Yeah, that probably tiers the lowest, perhaps. I don't know. I don't know. Y'all, I've obviously never had faced a deadline of a fantasy football newsletter and tried to be clever.

A lot of pressure. This article compiles a lot of examples of how it is a very difficult job. So I don't know. It seems like it's really tough. And they're getting paid less than teachers? Yeah, and they should be getting paid more. That's the argument. That's the argument.

Okay. You're signing up for torture, said Mike Golden 39, the veteran commissioner of a league that started when he was at Northeastern. university. The past few years, he said he's been under attack because he won't kick out newer members to make room for original members who decided to leave the league and now want back in. So when you say under attack, what is he getting death threats? Yeah, death threats.

They send an anthrax to his house? So there's a lot of jobs, okay? There are a lot of jobs. Start out as a hobby, but quickly become final. financially invested. I mean, the job we're doing right now is one of those.

How do you guys say? What would make you think that? Fantasy football commissioner is a new edition for me. I didn't know there were salaried fantasy football commissioners. Another one out there is pastor. Clergyman, you know.

Stakes obviously a little higher there, but let's call it what it is. Pretty easy job, all told. You go to work one day a week, you know. You get to riff like we do kind. Yeah, you kind of do get to riff. except your source material is only a 2,000-year-old text,

which I guess is not different from our source material. But it's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. This is in earnest. Our source material is like a 6 billion-year text, and that's the world. That's the world. The world.

The world. And all its fullness. Life itself. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean the hymn assent to just, you know, first century Middle East, but Yeah.

So what are the trials and travails of this this forthright fantasy football commissioner? I think it's just that people don't like the calls that some people make.

Like, for example, I'm called Stalin, said Seamus Coin, 29, who runs a league that started back at Maldon and Catholic high school. If his league's managers don't like one of his rulings, such as whether a trade between two teams is fair, they ridicule him in the group chat.

I'm not going to lie. Getting ridiculed in the group chat is very taxing. It sucks to be ridiculed in the group chat, and you should be paid a salary commensurate to that, I think. Well, I'll say this. I was the commissioner of a fantasy basketball league for 13 years. So I can kind of...

13 years, yeah. We went 13 years before there was a schism. And everybody just said, I've got... We started doing it when we were all like, you know, 19. And then like, eventually everybody's like, well, you know, man, I'm married and have kids now. I don't know that I can keep on doing this. And it was kind of like, you know, the sandlot moment

where one day you didn't know it but it was the last day you'd ever play fantasy basketball with your friends, you know? Yeah, one by one, they disappear on the field. People who start having kids, families and shit. Some guy goes to jail. Yeah. There was a schism about, we had a guy that chose to auto draft one year,

and he drafted like a, you know, like, you know, you pick the best available player or whatever. And a lot of people thought it was unfair because, like, this guy didn't show up, but he drafted, like, the best team. It was very inattentive. and I, my, my, uh, my positionist commission was brought up for a board, you know, and, uh, people have little faith in you. Well, my buddy Brad still doesn't speak to me over this. Because I can, I can, I contested, uh, I contested a trade.

I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, anybody in the position I was in would have vetoed Amari Stoddemeier for Steph Curry, but, you know. well you know i'll be fair and say that any job that you have that causes you to lose friends because of the stress of that job that's that's fair enough man it's a difficult job damn well who would ever get a job like that who would ever make a job for themselves like that what a crazy fucking world we live in what kind of world do we live it yeah it's there yeah it's a class of jobs that you start out doing

it because you're you have fun with your buds and then before you know it people start yelling at you Or you start yelling at each other. Or you start yelling at each other. Over something as stupid and trivial as a, I mean, not podcast, a fantasy football draft. I wonder, too, if, like, I mean, you know, we talk about AI and automation, you know, taking away jobs. Like, maybe Tom, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but are less people now watching? watching football or watching sports than ever before. More people are watching football now than ever, I think.

Yeah, football is wildly popular. The NBA took a dip for a season. It seems like they may have corrected, but I think that is owed to the gambling apps. Okay, so you know what? Fuck that, that this is a hard job, because then you'll never be out of a job in that case. Well, I'm just wondering when we're going to see,

like, the fantasy football draft sponsored by Kalshie Polymarket, draft kings whatever like i wonder when they're going to get in that racket because it seems almost like podcasting or again being in the clergy like something that's like probably getting a little more popular and it's kind of a sort of a job a pseudo job you know yeah yeah i'm surprised that it's art there already has a pseudo job for sues yeah well the um that's that's only the second most popular story in the Boston Globe this week. I didn't know if you wanted to read the most popular one. We might as well get down to it.

I've been on the phone about this all morning. Okay. Okay. I'm glad. I've been. I've not really been online for days and logged in this morning because we got the show today and was like, I need articles. I need, I came, you know, like how people will line up for work.

at the docks like can i get some work today can i get a can i get an honest man's work today please i i i'm there for a potter's wage i lined up hat and hand and what everyone was talking about was the boston globe lesbian bar article the last ditch bar and so of course you know i had to had to read it i had to you had to peruse the content minds i had to peruse western mess lesbian bar required KN 95 masks When it changed the rules All hell broke loose

That's the story In the Boston Globe I will say The I will say that There's a person in Philly A teacher who got lucky as fuck Did this happen today

Because First person in Philadelphia To be lucky Yeah A Philly teacher Who claimed Palestine and African ancestry is at the center of a scandal that is an angered pro-Palestinian activist as it was revealed she is actually the white daughter of Israeli settlers.

Jesus Christ, and she's the Israeli Rachel Delizal? Yeah, I don't know if he'll heard that story. Well, I did see that. I did see that. And, you know, were she not Israeli, I think that's kind of in poor taste. But I guess it's not meaningfully different from me claiming to be Cherokee or something, Which I've done in the past. Yeah, yeah.

We're owning up to our sins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's plenty of people that killed Cherokees that claim to be Cherokee, you know? Yeah. So where there are no black organizations that were upset about this? Because you said Palestinians.

So were the black people just like, ah? We gave Rachel Doles out of the hard time. Dude, she really went the extra mile because not only did she claim to be Palestinian, and she also claimed to be black. It's like she was like, I want to see the crime. Crazy identities, people start, like, she's like, I'm Palestinian and black and Chinese.

Like, that would be pretty tight. And, like, just throw in, like, a wild card for fucking, like, I don't know. She said she was Uyghur. She is a kind of Uyghur, that is true. I know a lot of Uyghurs when that went school. What you have to do? is you have to you have to buy the oppression you have to buy the oppression binds you have to select the most depressed identities in the world that that story is kind of related to the western

mass lesbian bar story i mean it is a it is a it is a example in that she's also a lesbian i was waiting for it oh is she really i don't know i was just going to say it's kind of um it's kind of a classic example of like when keeping it woke goes wrong like with like with like the lesbian bar thing is like a classic example of like when keeping it woke goes wrong. I think you said it best in the group chat. It said they're starting

to catapalize each other. Oh no I can't take credit for that. When I was on the I was talking to my friend and it works in mass about this and her joke was that they're eating each other. Not in the fun life. I just think it was really

funny. God man. It was that one quote from the article that I sent you guys. Because I just think it like encapsulates. You made up a good point, Terrence. Like the years of 2016 to 2020. And this one person said, just say you're being complicit in a mass disabling event and get it over with. Look, I'm not going to, you know, discuss the validity of that claim. God damn it, dude.

So fucking hate that is insane. It's just insane. I'm sorry. I don't think who gets mad about that. It's insane. Like, if mask, if you, if, like, and I'm not, I'm not against mask. Okay, I'm not. But it is an ins, like, you know, I go back and forth on this because, like, I think, well, okay, it's an insane thing to expect everybody to mask all the time or whatever.

You know what I mean? And then, like, but on the other side of it, I'm like, well, you know, like, I would also like for people to be kind of united against the encroachment of AI. That might be, like, an insane ask or something like that. But it's like what we what we can do in the thick of all that is like not fucking besmirch people as the scum of Western society. I don't know, man. You know, again, like you said, Tom, it's like, you know, I'm definitely not against masking, especially people who are immunocompromised. But I think when it gets into like hyperbole and especially what this feels like, and I hate to use this word, but it feels like some kind of virtue signaling, you know, so that people can say that I am righteous and I am, you know, I am. I am, I think that anyone who disagrees with me is just, you know.

I'm not even making a moral judgment about it. The problem I get into is when we say, when people start calling it genocide. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, we got a coptogynist. Goddamn grandiose terms, man. Like, it's like, what happened in Gaza is not like going to a function where like some people are mass and some people aren't.

I think anything in life you have to kind of like. figure out like what's your risk level acceptable risk level is and proceed accordingly that's everything that's outside of COVID all right also is this like I want to be a dick but this is the only lesbian bar in Massachusetts like if you have a problem with it you well they are dying out I have to say they are dying out okay that is true like I heard that there's like like only a handful lesbian bars nationwide now okay oh that's unfortunate yeah yeah true that from some yeah really I heard that from some people in Columbus, Ohio that shared an article with me about the dying of a lesbian bar.

You know, I just, I just, I just think that there's like, this, like, this whole thing is, like, so, like, mean-spirited at times, like, or whatever. It's like, and I, and, again, I'm not against masking. If it's, like, a masking policy, I think you should abide by that. You know what I mean? If it's like, if, you know, you're, there's an event where masking is not required and you feel like that's outside the bounds of, like, it would be acceptable risk. for you, then, like, I think that's maybe how you should proceed accordingly.

I just think it's like, uh, it's all a bad situation, Dave. It's all a bad situation. It's not like there's stopping people from wearing masks. Like, if you want to go to that bar, you can still wear a mask. Am I correcting that? Like, there's not a bouncer at the bar at the door telling you, no, you got to take off that mask now. You can't come in unless you take it off.

So I don't, I don't understand what, I mean, I understand why people are upset, but you also still have the decision to do whatever you want, whether you want to go there or continue to go there or whether you want to continue to go there and wear a mask. One of the effects of the neoliberal approach to a pandemic was that you displace any kind of like larger structural prevention or preventative efforts onto every single individual. And so that's come out the other end. That's come out the anus of fucking neoliberalized atomized subjectivity as like if you do anything short of um if you do anything short of like masking all the time i don't okay this is not fair for me to say but um but like me and my family were walking the other day in a

crosswalk and almost just got deleted by someone who was wearing a mask in their car by themselves they're like man like maybe it's not fair for me to extrapolate out from there but like um come on man Like, to me, it's just, if you're ascribing, like, every single person's, um, moral character with, like, the genocide, uh, or genocidal accusation, um, that to me says that, like, you've fully internalized that all the neoliberal message about, like, it's individuals role to stop the spread rather than, like, it's the governments or societies or institutions. Or in this case, it's a business's role, you know, it's a business's role. I don't know. And maybe that's not even like the point of that article. Maybe the point of the article was to just like, I don't know.

Maybe it was to like make fun of certain people. And in which case that's unfortunate and bad. It was pretty depressing to me to read it. I mean, there's parts of it that are funny, but I thought overall it was pretty depressing. Because it felt like, um, it just like reading,

reading all the, the back and forth, it just felt like the, the, I don't know. I hesitate to say this, but it just felt like reading a conversation between people who were intentionally trying to, like,

hurt each other rather than help each other. Right, yeah, that's the thing about it is. Just delete everything I said about, like, fucking, you know, assessing your own risk and all that kind of stuff, because that just play, that's literally the neoliberal playbook. So, yeah, you make a good point, Terrence. back kind of what I said like that's I think that's the that's the best we can do you know under the given circumstances but like so many of these debates it's just like you know at

socialism when there was that clip going around the guy said that geo the proliferation of gop ones was genocide against fat people it's like you cannot be fucking serious you know what I mean you cannot be fucking serious dude it's like we just don't even we just don't even I don't know it's like it's I don't know it's just like really frustrating when like we just it's like saying everything's literally Hitler you know somebody mildly conveniences you that's their Hitler you know what I mean it's like we just live in this fucking like hyperballing times I don't know I just remember too this reminds me of this whole debate about whether Starbucks workers who were picketing outside the Starbucks

you know with the Starbucks United organization trying to unionize chains across the country. Um, and, you know, uh, some prominent leftists, I don't even know if I could call her that, but she was like, oh, um, these workers weren't masking, you know, and it's just like, dude, like, I don't even know how to put, I don't even, they're out, I mean, whatever, you. I'm not even going to say that. Like, they're fucking unionizing, right? They're, they're, they're fucking demonstrating and trying to unionize. You know, why don't you, why don't you, why don't you lend them some solidarity instead of trying to, like, excoriate them based on your own personal morals and ideals about like what people should be doing you know what i mean

it's it's a moralistic i mean it really is what it is it's a moralistic like stumbling block gotcha politics and that's what it is and if people are being honest with themselves that's exactly what the fuck they're doing and they know that's what they do and they know and they know it's what they're doing it's the same shit you experience with like rad lives telling you to do your own research and shit when you showed up to organizing spaces in the meddots it's just the same fucking strange I'm sorry. To me, I'm not saying they don't have a point.

I'm not saying that like long COVID's not real or that any of these like very real concerns or not. But like the bottom line is that there's no structure that's going to address that from the top down right now. We can't even keep our fucking meat without glass in it and without parasites. You know what I mean? So what do you do under those circumstances?

Like just fucking be mean to each other all the goddamn time? That was one of those. that was one of the things about that show and or that I thought it did really well like my kind of takeaway from that show was that like people on the left

are just really terrible to each other you know and I don't know it's like it's the feel it's it's it's powerlessness man yeah when you don't have power you have to find somebody to fucking take it out on it's kind of the same shit that domestic violence comes out of

and like all these like ills and society come out of like and what i mean by that is like it's usually the person closest to you that deals with the fucked up you know aftermath of like whatever your particular neuroses or like whatever is you know what is that phrase perfect becomes the enemy of the good you know it's like because you're powerless instead of like actually saying practically what can we do to create the world we want to live in and it seems like you have no avenue to create said world what you end up do is just infighting the entire time, you know. And creating like scenarios in your head about what the,

what this world could be like if we each individually did this thing that I say should happen instead of saying, how can we reach out to a broad swath of people and bring people and meet people, you know, that's over said, but overstated, but meet people where they're at essentially, you know what I mean? I don't even think it's possible. I really don't. I mean, maybe he's, maybe. I said, nah, fuck that shit. I don't think it's possible in the 21st century.

It's like, it was, it was probably possible. possible in the 18th century, in the early 20th century. But it's, it is literally not possible in the age of the internet. Because like that's what I was... It might be possible in 2068 or some shit, you know. What's that? It might be possible in the far future. Well, yeah, if you get rid of the internet.

If you get, when you get rid of gamified speech, speech that's like completely substance, substanceless and is only engineered to one up one another and, read the most bad faith interpretations into everything, every other person is saying. And creating a reward system for that. Well, I've noticed that just with this show, the amount of times that, like, I just come to the show,

lay out my view of the world, lay out the way that I see it in an analysis that I think is like not terrible. I'm granted I'm not, I don't have a fucking master's in various stuff. And so I'm not an expert. But the ways that people will fight, try to nitpick every little thing you say and like use that as a way to unravel your entire argument or take off on tangents or divert you.

It's like, I've said this before, I don't, you don't even need actual feds in any of these spaces to do it. It just automatically does it itself. That's the whole point of the internet. It's control and command. It's a counterinsurgency tool. that's like you cannot have a mass movement until you've gotten rid of the counterins the most effective tool for counterinsurgency

that the capitalist world has ever fucking seen it's not even the conversation I subscribe to the nigger you know what I meant philosophy you know like you don't have to who's that just niggas anybody you know what I made don't fucking try to like

I'm a dumb motherfucker I admit that. But you understand the contours of what I'm saying. Or otherwise you wouldn't be fucking listening to me. That's the thing that kills me is the willful ignorance of those bad faith arguments. It's like you know good and goddamn well that I don't think like people living with disabilities should die. Like shut the fuck. But that's the point.

But then they would say, then they would say. Oh, but the like, I'm sorry, Terrence. Go ahead. I'm just going to say like the point is the reason that they do that is because. your take got 1,236 likes. And if they can find a weakness in the structural integrity of it that can give them 1,347 likes, then they win. And like, it's not, it's not like, that's the kind of thing that frustrates me so much about all of these conversations.

It's like I read that story. And then I read the discourse about the story, which is hilariously just as absurd. heard as the, like I saw one, I saw one interaction that was literally a mirror of the exact shit in the story itself. It's a microcosm of, yeah. Yes, it was, um. If anything, a macrocos of that, rather. Someone said, the COVID-conscious lesbian bar article is the most depressing thing I've ever read.

Why are we all laughing? Next person says, you made me curious. And after glancing over the article, I think it's obvious. And then they've mentioned the clown school thing. Did you remember the clown school part in that article? Someone quit the bar to go to clown school. another person replies that's a completely valid endeavor going to

cloud school and I'm not sure why it's played for jokes in the article amongst all the actual crazy stuff there next person It's really not when you leave your friend Is to play things for jokes Jokes? Next person says It's really not when you leave your friend a struggle with the dead

alone next person Exactly my point. Why is it played for jokes? It's just dude it's like Every It is like Zoom out you're fighting about clown school the discourse itself mirrors the fucking content inside of it and what frustrates me about all of this

and again the meta is even in bad faith it's crazy the meta part of it obviously is going to be in bad faith even more so which if you really want to get philosophical it starts to all become meta because what they're talking about in this article is even about fucking math asking. It's not about another person's convictions

or it's not about like finding any compromise solution or higher ground. It is entirely about I mean it's several things. Psychoanalytically it's like about venting your own like you said helplessness and powerlessness and the petted tyranny that's

endemic in all Americans and it's also about like improving your own role sociologically speaking within a certain in-group. And it's just the whole point, like I said, it's all geared for counterinsurgency. And then I see people saying like, well, I do mutual aid and I encounter this stuff all the

time. So therefore, if you want to get past this stuff, you actually have to do shit. Building a bar is not doing shit. Fair. I guess that's true. But at the same time, like, it is still a massive problem. If every conversation you have just keeps getting bogg, down in in this kind of stuff

I don't know maybe I mean what it is is what it is just further alienates people you know yeah it's just slush man it's slush and it's what it is I mean slush it's just to it's just to just grind the gears of anything productive to a halt and get us tied up in like pissing contests about you know

moral high grounds and so forth because like again the argument is transferable to everything and again I'm not against masking I'm not against you know I'm certainly not like riding for, you know, small businesses, you know, right to choose their policies and stuff like that. Not even about any of that. It's simply about the treatment of the thing because it's like, dude, we could just, we could get, we could like apply the same argument to anybody that drives a car. We know the planet is serotic and like quickly failing. You know what I mean?

Like we may not have fish in 20 years. We may not have an inhabitable planet 80 years. and we don't go around like telling everybody that like drives a car still that they're an unrepent piece of shit and that they're they did like the killing the killing fields no i mean like i i mean no i'm just kidding well terrence does that to anybody that has a leaf blow i'm just kidding and dogs dog owners people that use leaf blowers and drivers there's a got a few pet issue but you know what i mean like that's the same argument is transferable to many things that we just don't like keep the same energy for if we're being honest with herself that is true that's a good point i'm glad you brought that um hopefully people gave us enough grace in good faith to get 30 minutes into it without like there's motherfuckers oh we didn't i almost somebody listening to the podcast wearing a mask in

their own home don't be upset not listen listen i'm sympathetic to that i'm sympathetic to that dude i was you all know how heavy i was in the masking game like especially like i wouldn't do it's a deep masker dude i wouldn't go around i wouldn't like i wouldn't go around i wouldn't like Like I wouldn't just, I wouldn't go around anybody. Like I was like so, I like kind of was so into that. But I think it is just like, you know, I'm not like knocking the masking or anything like that. And if like you feel like, you know, I see people in stores wearing masks and stuff like that. I think that's like you should do that.

If that's like, you know, that makes you safer and all that kind of stuff. And it does make people safer around you. I'm not, I'm not like refuting that. I'm just talking about the treatment and how we sort of like selectively meet out. like the moral dimensions of those type of things. It's like you, there's like a million things in society, million compromises we make under this system

that we're not nearly as mean to each other about it. Probably we should be like we probably should be like fucking like, that's a good point. Blowing up duly trucks and shit. Enough we want to keep it about like seriously. No, yeah, you're right. That's a good point. We just don't, you know.

Yeah, it is one of the things that we, I mean, and I don't know. And I say this. And I say this as someone who, Tom and I did a recent episode that we canned, that we did talk about the socialism conference. That's not the reason we canned it. But we talked about that whole discussion. And, you know, I don't know. I don't know quite how to, like, word or articulate it.

But, you know, it's been a saying among discon. disability activist that like we're all um we all could be disabled at any point in time and I would take it even one step further and say that we all have been at one point in time they probably say this as well too but like you know raising having a baby like you understand that like being a baby is essentially being disabled I mean like you have to be um it is a form of it anyways because like you have to be taken care of at all times uh you need the social sex is to survive. You know what I mean?

In a society that actually kind of refutes their existence, you know. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it makes it difficult at every single turn to like, you know, be a self-realized, fulfilled person eventually hopefully. Yeah. And I do wish people would have more awareness of that. And, you know, obviously it's, we live in a, again, a neoliberalized society that's told you that there is no society.

And therefore, that's why we hate babies. It's why we hate disabled people. We hate anybody that depends on other people to stay alive or whatever. But there's something about COVID specifically, man. I don't know. It's just reading that article, it just gave me this bad vibes again. You know what I mean? Like the bad vibes started coming back again.

Like when you would hear people talking about like Ivermectin. And like Ivermectin was like really, to me, really depressing. Like there was nothing epic or funny about. it really it was just very depressing that people were killing themselves eating horse dewormer and then like people were laughing about it is like that's also equally and like I was reading that article it's like oh man the bad vibes the bad feelings are coming back the dread well like you see this like you see I think I saw like I think it was like Catherine Kruger somebody pointed this out but like um maybe not got I can't remember who it was but like people like saying I'm not

eating Himalayan pink salt anymore because it's made from the skin of nephalum or whatever. We're basically turning ourselves into, we're all going to have goyters and I think what was said was that we're basically opting into becoming like, you know,

middle-aged peasants. You know what I mean? I based off like fairy tales essentially. A point of order as someone who's recently dealt with this. Eating Himalayan sea salt won't actually help your goiter. It does not contain iodine.

contain iodine. You need salt with iodine in it if you want to avoid a quarter. See, you guys brought a science Ombudsman here. Yeah. Y'all brought up a good point, though. You see, like, because none of these issues can be, like, remedied

or dealt with, I guess, from the top down, you know, in this heavily neoliberalized, atomized society, like, we will become, like, medieval peasants. because people will start turning to their own solutions and modern day superstition and turning against one another, you know what I mean?

To solve these problems. Brother, Himmeland Pink Sock coming from Nephlin blows right past modern day superstition and right now to... You're making a good coming back full circle, actually. Well, but that is... Probably not an accident. The first time I heard about Nephlin

was from Watsburg City cops. To... I want to be very delicate about saying, this, but that is kind of the premise of mask maximalist, masking maximism, because the reason I say that is because it is literally impossible to shield yourself from any and all germs, viruses, bacteria, pathogens. It is, I need to just have a frank conversation with you. I'm not an epidemiologist, but I am someone who is

immunocompromised in various ways. It is impossible to escape the terrifying entropy and you know, not even entropy, all right? Like, we're not talking about that.

It's impossible to escape the ecological nexus as well. You know what I'm saying? And that includes bacteria, viruses, everything. Like, you can try as much

as you might, but like, there is also a thing that, um, man, this is like some real deep in the wood shit, but like autoimmune disorders are more prevalent in Western societies. And there's several different theories as to why, but like the prevailing theory is that it is a result of our quest for, um, sterilized environments, like hyper sterilized environments. Like, you need some degree of exposure to pathogens to have an immune system because if your immune system is not like and this is not true for immunocronized people right because it's a very delicate thing but I'm saying for the society at large your immune system has to have some bit of engagement with external pathogens or else it starts eating yourself so I have psoriasis for example

psoriasis is an autoimmune disorder where your skin will start eating itself your immune system starts eating itself because it doesn't it's too active right that's why you have to take a steroid to calm your immune system down god damn that's a Greek tragic comedy right there brother yeah yeah I mean I have ulcerative colitis you know what I mean and I like one those that's also yeah also an autoimmune disorder yeah yeah which is like I'm what I'm the point I'm not I'm not trying to make a point that like immunocromperized people need to give up trying to avoid protect themselves protect themselves what i'm

what i'm trying to say is that there is also a flip side to a cultural approach or methodology that could be equally as harmful where you try to eradicate too many pathogens and whatnot and then you wind up creating all kinds of other problems on the back end so it's like i'm what i'm trying to say here is that there is no

paragon and again we kind of just circle right back to the um to the point made by the person at the socialism conference, which I do agree with the GLP one thing I agree. You agree there's a genocide against fat people? No, not that person. The other person, the

death panel podcast person, which I do agree with in the sense that like it's impossible to chase after a perfect paragon of health. Like that's that is fascist. That's a fascist endeavor. And but sometimes I

worry that like with this universal maximalist prescription that every single person wear masks, I don't think that that is, you know, I don't know if you know if that's scientifically sound. I don't know if it's even recommended or safe. Genuinely, I don't know if it's safe, like for all of society to all be masking.

And I'm not even just talking about the social effects of like, I really struggled during the pandemic with masking because as a person for me to be able to understand what someone is trying to relay to me either at the bank or the grocery store or on the street, like I need to be able to see their mouth. Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of like, I'm swear I'm like deaf in one of years,

so I need to be able to see the moving. Yeah, yeah. And so like I struggled with that. So I'm not even talking about the social aspects, though, of like every single person being masked was I struggled with. I'm just talking about the epidemiological ones. Is it even safe? I don't know.

Like, I couldn't even. You know what it makes, maybe this is an abrasive metaphor, and I don't even know how true this is, but, you know, the glass delusion that supposedly occurred during the Middle Ages?

I think it was, if it even... Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, well, it's like... People thought they were made a glass. Exactly, and it was like, you know, being essentially... What it was was the... If I remember correctly, it was kind of like the printing press.

At a certain point, a technological point in Europe where they could mass produce glass and so it was more widely available and so what wound up happening is more and more people were coming in contact with glass and it made them have a kind of like

biophysical, epistemological ontological reaction where they were like, oh shit, am I made of glass? I can die at any moment. I can fall and die at any moment. Turns out only our hearts are made of glass. To be honest, to be

if you want to take that metaphor further, Aaron, I do think that there is something going on similarly with AI. I think that we are also kind of under a glass delusion with AI, like where we're coming in contact more and more with automated machinery. And so there is something going on

with a lot of people. We call them MPCs or whatever, like, you know what I mean? It's something where people are like, am I a machine? Oh, fuck it. I'll just act like that. Am I real? What constitutes me? Man, can we use any of this episode? No, I'm not. Yeah, we can't.

I'm on TV talking like it's just you and me. Once again, they could just subscribe to the nigga, you know what I meant. That'll be good. You would think that would be the case. You would think that, like, as leftists were dedicated or we pledged ourselves to the liberation of the working class, right? You would think that, like, that should be maybe the grounding. You know who's anti-masking? The working class.

according to some people on Twitter that's exactly what they were saying yeah it's a tough and listen the thing is it's it's all it's all tough because we're all fucking vulnerable you know what I mean we're all dealing with

a massive adjustment disorder from you know COVID and the wages of all that and everything and so I'm not saying that just for the maskers I'm talking wherever you land on the idea I mean we're all kind of fucked up from it And there are things like low COVID and the real wages of that or all that kind of stuff.

And I would never, you know, come out against anybody's, you know, choices as far as that or anything like that. I just think it's like it feels like it was just made in the lab to just like really be divisive in a way that's like uniquely because because that you can so easily attach a moral judgment to it. You know, and part of that is is the messaging we got through it. It's like, oh, you're going to kill grandmother. You're going to do this. You're going to do that. And, you know, that's not unfounded. I mean, like millions of people died during COVID, obviously, and continue to die.

I continue to struggle with, you know, the long-term effects of it. But it's just, I don't, I don't like that we just can't, like, talk about those things. And the jumping off point to talk about that thing is, like, lesbian bars and clown school and the comment section about it. And this keeps, and this keeps. And this keeps coming up, this keeps coming up in some, like, pretty crazy ways. You know what I mean?

Like, I, I, I am not, like, anybody that knows me knows I'm a severe case of a hypochondri. And I'm, like, an obsessive hand washer. And, you know, I wore a fucking mask, you know, like, I have, I have health OCD

so bad sometimes. Like, I've been diagnosed with it as well. Like, I have health OCD to the point that, like, I don't know how many times have gone to the ER for something completely innocuous. And as a result, I have fucking absurd medical debt. I already know and accepted that I'm dying slowly

on the inside. So I have the maximumist position in the opposite direction. Oh, so you need a little more health OCD. You're not. Like I'm smoking cigarettes and doing crack at the same time, brother, while driving without a seatbelt down the road. Yeah. Trying to die as quickly as quickly. as possible.

No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I think that, I think, if you want to cut out the last 35 minutes, 30, 35 minutes, and not put in any of this,

we could just skip all of that to right now where what I'm going to say is that I think that a lot of the anxiety that came across that came through in that article and the Boston Globe article that we should talk about one day. We'll not talk about it on this episode, but we'll talk about it on a future episode.

Wink, wink. Because you, the listener, won't be, like, when I was a kid, I used to think, like, oh, God can just snap his fingers and pause time, and then, like, he'll snap his fingers and then time will be un paused and you won't know the difference. I'm like God. Like I can edit shit out and you'll never know. You, the audience will never know. So you don't know whether. Welcome to the show, everybody.

Yeah, welcome to the show. We're going to start the show. Because I had a ton of shit I wanted to talk about instead. I did not want to talk about that article or even get bogged down. All right. Well, let's start from the top. We'll just start the show here. Well, what we can do is if you want to keep all that we can.

but if you don't, and you want to cut it, we can also just say this. When I was reading that article, what I kept coming back to over and over was that all of this, all of it is pure, like pure, unadulterated anxiety. Sublimated in all kinds of ways, right?

Multiple directions, too. But it is anxiety about the health care system that I think is in, such a state of crisis that like you know obviously we saw how you know sort of like uh stressed and um pushed to its extremes it was during the pandemic but the things that have occurred in the last year or so and really in the last three months in the health care industry are genuinely um i mean it's crisis it's a crisis right it's at a crisis point.

And we've talked about it a lot over the last, especially of the last few weeks. But I don't know. I mean, like, there's, I don't know. Maybe that's a jumping off spot to talk about, like, health care right now, everything that's going on. But, like, as I was reading that article, like, I think that I just keep coming back to that, like,

I think that, like, the masking maximalism or just, what I'm just going to call that like the treating of each other as very very poorly reading bad faith and bad judgment and bad character into each other into people that you should know

and that you should know better are not bad people and don't want to genocide most of the human race reading into them though bad intentions and pro-genicidal intentions that to me is if it's not being done purely for just personal aggrandizement and like

enrichment you know what I mean like trying to just like better yourself in an in-group a pure sociological thing it is just pure like I said unadulterated anxiety over the fact that the healthcare system is fully collapsing I mean and that they want us to it seems as if they want us to die and by extension our food system which aids and supports in theory

the endeavor of health also collapse and I saw a thing today that they had putting fake USDA approved stamps on like hundreds of thousands of pounds of pork beef chicken etc at a time

when confidence in the you know the safety of those things is at an all time low it seems maybe maybe or at least since like upton Sinclair's day wait so hold up is this like when you buy a

that has like an imperfect stamp on it like because maybe like one sleeve is a little bit too short or maybe it's just like there's some manufacturing defect with it like defective are they doing I don't think I don't think they're sending the beef to the factory outlet store I think what they're doing is this this beef is not in any wise going to pass inspection they're like eh they won't know it'll cook out Dude, I'll never forget one time Tanya made me some goddamn elk chili. And I thought I was, I literally thought, I saw the lot briefly. I got some goddamn sick off that shit.

Elk chili? It wasn't stamped by the FDA? No. No, it's, it's not safe. Probably killed on a strip mine somewhere. Yeah. I probably pulled off the side of the road by Robin Nuff's enemy. I want to tell you all something.

I walked in the bathroom to throw up and the whole room looked like there was six of everything in there. I was like, my God. Oh, man. Damn. That's like a Jordan Peterson affliction. Diss and Terry from Elk, Chile. I swear off game meats after that. I still focus on gay meat.

Well, oh, did you see, though, Trump is going to... They're, speaking of meat and beef, there is a growing... call from, okay. So like one of the big news items this week, I'm kind of thrown off now because we talked about the whole Boston Globe thing and I didn't really plan on it, but it's fine.

You know, it's fine, fellas. I think I want to vote to not take it out of there. I hate that. You want to take it out? I don't think we should. I'm going to let you make that call, brother, because I'm usually the one who's like up late at night, like, oh my God, I don't want to put it out. Freaking

out. But I think I'm going to put that on We'll see how we feel. Let's just keep going. We'll see how we feel after this. I'll let you make that call, brother. No, this is on you, Tom. Or if we do, keep it, maybe we should eliminate any medical claims, I mean.

Well, the important thing to realize is that because of something you said on a podcast, you are a bad person. So that's just all that you, this is the important thing to realize. If you're going to a podcast, you're a bad person. And if you have a party, you have your bad person, and you're going to hell, and you want to kill most of the human race. Yeah.

So. But the, there's a few items this week I wanted to cover that don't have anything to do with the, um, the radlib left, so to speak, not necessarily.

But it might be, in the same ballpark I mean so you know we're nearing the midterms now for just a few weeks out

and the Republicans are pretty confident that they're going to get blown the fuck out of the water and you know and then I you know obviously you you get on the take app

designed to make you go insane. And people are like, I'm really worried, though, that maybe that's, are overdetermined and that it won't be a big Republican blowout in the midterms and that the Democrats will win. And to me, to me, my thing is like, brother, I think what you're all afraid to admit is what really concerns you, what really scares you is that there will be a massive blowout and the Dems won't do jack shit with it. at all. At all.

All the energy, all the animosity that they probably created and just injected you with towards the Trump administration and the Iran War and whatever else the fuck is going on when they actually have the reins. You'll see that they won't do shit. They won't do a goddamn thing. And even the elected progressives, the Democratic Socialists, you know, who may win, you'll see that they're not able to do anything at all. I have to say, though, I knew it was not going well for the Republicans. Well, I knew that pretty acutely last week when J.D. Vance begged for another chance on national TV and groveled for it. And then he brought out the farts left. Oh, dude.

Hey, J.D. Guy humor, not your thing. J.D. Vance's week has been insane. Yes, he said not the far left, but the fart left. Yeah. You know, just, yeah, he said that to an audience. But also, it came out this week that he was the person in the White House who was leaking to Politico early on that the U.S. was going to go to war with Iran. Before Israel had, you know, talked United States into it and then the United States had to pretend like they didn't. JD Vance had leaked it to Politico.

And that came out just today, I think. And Trump hasn't had him like trotted out to the like White House lawn and shot him in the head. You know, I'm sure they know. I'm sure they probably know. I bet Trump leagues. Like these guys love gossip. Yeah, that's true. They live for it.

That's fine. That's fine. That's, yeah. Yeah, he's had a bad weight. But I knew it was going poorly for the Republicans when Tommy Tuberville, former Auburn head coach turned senator. This came out and said that most of the people. working as airline pilots and as air traffic controllers or furries. Uh-huh.

And then Kennedy and Louisiana bookended that with that Iran and China are reptile people. They're like going for broke with like the crazy shit. You know what I mean? I've been, I tried to make this point on the episode with Alex, but it didn't quite go over. So I edited it to make it before people started saying, turn sounds a weird thing. with bestiality. But my point was, my point was,

there seems to be some sort of undercurrent in American society where we have a very strange fixation on animals. But what I'm saying is like, first of all,

the, what's the guy, the FBI guy, his name, Cash Patel. The bestiality thing in it of itself is probably the best example.

But like Ivermectin, people taking horse and animal or ketamine, people take, like horse and animal drugs all the time or um or the furry thing but remember when republicans were really freaked out about like kids in high schools wanting litter boxes there's some kind of like anxiety that like well it's like a zoonotic illness allegedly is what set us

on this course even further like with COVID stuff right yes there's there's you Tom you're right there's a zoonotic anxiety under like undercurrent in american society at the moment that I just want to I just want to point it out I'm not saying any you know who's a paragon of that and a pioneer again robert f kennedy robert f kennedy junior he thought he was a dad about a rass coon's dick off well yeah and also he's being piloted by a worm like ratatoui style like he's got his his his uh interchange with the natural world is unnatural to say the list you're interfacing with the natural world is very unnatural right dude i watched the um

I'm watching a bunch of old sci-fi movies, so I watch Altered States by directed by Ken Russell, I think. Oh, that's a good movie. You know, it's a great movie, dude. The movie, the guy's like, you know, he's doing fucking subversion of ayahuasca, hallucinetics, putting himself in a, you know, a sensory deprivation tank in order to sort of connect or become,

like connect to some sort of primitive godhood, I guess. Yeah. But he actually starts to turn the beginning stage as he turns into like a proto-hue. He's going around eating like goats and gazelles and shit at the zoo. I think that's us. That's probably it. We're so alienated.

We're so alienated. But also we suffer from this godlike delusion as Americans writ large in general that eventually we will revert to proto-human, beastial-like figure. And also too, a dovetelling at a time when like Space Force, we talked last week about the Nazi Space Force uniforms and wanting to control the moon. So there's an element of lecantthropy here. our obsession with dogs and our co-evolution with them anyway it's like we want to control the moon so we'll have something to how that when the final merger I'll have

Aaron you're exactly right both of you are exactly right and what is really kind of mind-blowing to me about it is like we want to reverse engineer the last like 15 really the last 50,000 years of human life and there was even remember the the what do they call that? Was it the keto diet or when people were like eating raw meat or I might have just think so.

It was a panos. The carnivore. Carnival. Carnival diet. Oh, paleo diet. Yeah, where they only ate foods that we could have eaten like 50,000 years ago or whatever.

They want to read doing that like a couple months ago. That's Jordan Peterson, I think. He himself did. Dented his brain, but ate nothing but steak for two years. We want to reverse engineer the last like 50,000 years

of human life and then get back to hunter-gatherer societies, but without the tribe. Does that make sense? It's like we come out the other end. Again, we come out the anus of fucking human life in civilization, and we are so alienated,

we don't even have tribes. So you're just like an individual hunter-gatherer. And we're all- wandering the savada with saber-toothed cats chasing your shit. And you're eating fucking mushrooms that you don't even know are like going to kill you. Like,

because there's no community. knowledge anymore, so you're eating berries. You just got a lot of blisters in your mouth that you're unknown provenance. It's an anxiety, you're exactly right, Aaron. It's an anxiety about, like, returning to our proto-human state, I think. And, like, we all know it's coming.

It's like, we're like that video, one of my favorite videos of the guy being like, I just turned six hours into three, boom. I just, you know what I mean? Like, like 300 years ago when we were living in a year. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it's because the modern world is so terrifying and elusive, you know what I'm saying? Well, another part of it is that we've like the sort of progress, if you can call it that,

I'm putting that in scare quotes. I sound like one of those old guys that calls the TV the idiot box now. But it's like it's sped up so rapidly and simultaneously ground to a halt, but that's not stopping us from trying to like innovate again and scarecloth. quotes or whatever, while everything moved at a much slower pace before the last, you know, 25 years or whatever. Yeah. Everything kind of gradually kind of came together.

And then after 9-11, it's like, you know, what if we could become wolves? Like our safe space with all this shit going on become primitive hominids. Which I was up on my favorite video game when I was a kid. It was called Altered Beast. You remember that? where you turn it into a wolf and you just sort of spit fireballs at a big blob of goo. I do remember primal fury, though, where it was like anthropomorphic animals fighting each other, doing ninja moves and shit.

Yeah. It was a primal rage, some shit like that. Primal rage, yeah. It is all in anxiety because the mass proliferation of thinking machines, which I have a really insane story on that I want to get to here in a minute. Do you think, let me ask you a question on the answer. Do you think AI, in a way, is giving us permission to return to the wild? A hundred percent.

Yeah. But we're giving it permission to give us permission. Like, y'all got this. Y'all got this or whoever y'all is. I guess some algorithm that we fed or whatever, they stole our data to feed. The y'all algorithm? Yeah, yeah. But we're going to go drink raw milk now, like a goddamn house cat.

Yeah. It's been let outside. That would be so... Go ahead, Teres, go ahead. No, go ahead. I was going to... No, I was going to say, there's just such an inversion

on sort of the speculative, like, tropes and just even the theory, the idea that AI would allow us to become more fulfilled, like actualized, self-actualized human beings. But instead, the AI people think, is becoming a better human or person than we, people than we can become actually, you know, whether it's intellectually or more.

morally or what may have you. So the only role for us is to just return to our primitive nature. We are, yeah. And I attribute part of this to our misunderstanding of what AI even is and what it can do. Because I have been frustrated, especially since the heads of Open AI and Anthropic and Elon Musk himself came out and said that like, we need to maybe put some breaks on AI because we're going to, we're getting too good at destroying. in the world. Like the world is going to be destroyed. Elon Musk,

a guy that, you know, said that there's an 80% chance that terraforming Mars goes fine and will be okay. And everybody forgets, as was pointed out on that in Friedland show,

I saw on the clip going around, that leaves a one in five chance that all of humanity dies. Even if those wildly optimistic numbers are correct. Even if, well, I've been kind of fresh.

since that because there was an article in Politico actually that I thought was interesting because it rounded up a bunch of polls from around from six different Western countries about AI and the risks of AI. It was UK, Canada, France, US, Spain, and Germany. I mean, it had some really interesting, like, insights in it. When asked whether AI lab staff really believed, okay, so first of all, like some of the big takeaways with that, the majority of people in these six Western countries all believe that AI is out of control and will end humanity. But it says here, when asked whether AI lab staff really believe their own fears, that AI will kill us all, or if they were making a marketing move to hype their products, adults from all six countries tended to view the warnings as genuine.

And I think that that's an interesting thing because I don't really view the warnings as totally genuine or I think it's also possible that maybe they are genuine, but it is also a marketing ploy. I think it could be both. I think you're right. I take your tack on that. I think it is. It does double duty. It kind of puts this reverential fear in people's hearts for like the people that are behind this or whatever. That's what they're shooting for.

but at the same time promotes their product. Yeah. So it pulls double duty, yeah. It puts them in the driver's seat. It makes us, like, afraid to really ask or demand too much. Like, we want them to know. We're kind of scared that they might in humanity, but we're like, oh, these are the smartest people in the room,

so we don't want to, like, be too out of pocket. And Elon Musk can't be the smartest person in the room if he thinks that there's a 20% chance it ends all humanity, and that should be something that everybody just is cool with. I mean, also, too, It's like on the one hand, if they really genuinely believe that, they could just turn off the box. You know what I'm saying? They could just shut this shit down.

On the other hand, I think the same way that there are economists or there are, you know, people who are involved in foreign policy or any of these sorts of fields with sort of this information and knowledge that seems very arcane, right? Or exclusive to those who are already in the know. They don't even actually know how to call that a cult. They don't know how it works. They don't fucking know how the shit works, you know what I'm saying? So to them, it's almost as if it's taken on a life of its own, you know what I mean? Yeah, dude, that's true. Well, here's another subset.

Here's another interesting thing here that I wanted to point out. Americans who had voted for Trump in 2024 split almost evenly when asked whether to pause advanced AI development or press forward. Oh, I'm sorry. What I was going to say was the majority of people who voted for Trump were more likely to view it. as a marketing ploy. They would recognize one, I guess, when they see it, right? Yeah, I guess so. As people that do fall for marketing ploys.

But to verify my thesis on a recent Patreon episode, this was a little op-ed in the Financial Times. How to think about the end of the world, bringing clarity to a fuzzy P-Doom debate. And I just thought it was interesting because the whole article is just kind of like talking about all the various scenarios

that AI could destroy the world and if it's valid or not. And what's kind of just mind-blowing to me in all of this, and I just, again, cannot get over this. I keep coming back to this. There is something destroying the world right now. And it is climate change.

We are at the end of an ecological paradigm. We're at the end of a political economic paradigm. Look at the summer that Europe just had, like the widespread droughts in the American Southwest and the, you know, imminent water wars.

Already you're seeing the early rumblings of them with like the various legal jockeying over who has water rights among these various southwestern states. The fucking apocalypse is here. The end of a world is here. But you never see those stories not written about

in the Financial Times because Right. You know, I mean, and a lot of these publications. Yeah. If we don't have any raw material, I mean, stuff we pull out of the ground still drives the whole goddamn thing. Yeah. The thing about AI that is fascinating me is in addition to it being sort of a marketing employee come, you know, whatever, God in the box, whatever they're shooting for. it's also a way to create a accountability free world for the people that put us in this situation

right to put another layer another buffer between the hoary masses and the people actually responsible for these type of things which are the billionaires and the millionaires and the billionaires and so forth and i think that's an interesting piece of this that we don't talk about enough is how that like you know uh it feels like a lot of this is geared toward it's almost like somebody choosing to take their own life rather than like this face like stage four bone cancer or something like that and i and that's that's a that's a choice i respect i'm not like picking on that but we're facing an existential thing in the same way it's like we know that the world is not long for this world and and the world is not long for itself and what if we just let uh some weird uh you know

technology escape containment kill us anyway. That is true. It does... It does... The temperatures and all this kind of stuff. It does substitute in perfectly. Like, just on the claims of AI itself and what it means

symbolically and functionally for a myriad of tasks and functions in human society, capitalist society, it does substitute in perfectly as the thing that allows humanity to absolve itself,

of the fact that we destroyed the fucking planet through the profit, the endless pursuit of profit. And I know I'm, you know, maybe I'm getting a little too carried away there because it wasn't all of us. It was just a small group of really rich people who did it.

And also I'm not like, I'm taking into account like how countries like China view AI, which is, you know, it is different than it is here in America. I don't like it there either. because I don't like, I am a universalist when it comes to AI. I disagree with it in, in the application.

Pretty much any application in a capitalist society. Like I said before, I think it could be interesting to research and fuck around with in a communist society, in a society where resources are distributed equally and people have control over their lives and all this other stuff. But like, no, it's. It is, it is an interesting. parallel though to think about sublimating the climate crisis, which is the end result, right, of 500 years of, you know, just an assault on the planet, you know. And sublimating that with the

AI apocalypse, which is this sort of massive repository of all our information, our activities, and our behavior, you know, we're just like, we just invented another crisis to avoid the crisis that's been coming to us for a long time. And as we draw closer to like, you know, rainwater that feels like, you know, scalding water from a fucking hot water heater or something like that,

we'll create more crisis. Anything to put that buffer between those responsible who will probably be... Raid water that's like the fucking acid from the xenomorphic alien. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus Christ, dude. I'm going to read a

I want to read an article really quick on that note. We don't have to read the whole thing. But battle of, this is at the New York Times, battle of hospital AI versus insurer AI is pushing medical costs higher. It sounds like the dopest video game ever, brother. Battle of hospital AI.

Versus yeah, paper pushing insurer AI. Bad war of the machines. And the latest sign, this file this under my open tab from earlier that the health care system is in a state of acute crisis that is so severe I'm not sure how to even remotely dig ourselves out of it. But that has been a theme for the last few episodes. And it is something I'm noticing more and more, which is that like social planners and policies. policymakers and leaders in Western capitalist societies are facing fewer and fewer options. Like the range of action is, it is narrowing, brother. It is genuinely like winnowing down.

And you're fitted through the eye of a needle, brother. Yes. And I'll get into that more in just a second when I talk about the potential diesel export ban. but just to like you know because I think this article is relevant to what we're just talking about AI in the latest sign that AI is fueling higher health care costs a group of insurers released a report Thursday claiming that hospitals use of use of AI was responsible for nearly $1 billion in additional expenses over just two years using codes for various medical conditions hospitals submitted claims for tens of thousands of patients that described their illnesses as more complex in 2024 and 25 than in 2023. Despite the added conditions, there was no evidence that the patients had received different treatment from the hospitals. Using AI tools, hospitals are collecting more information about their patients and submitting

bigger claims. Coding is changing because of this technology, said Luke Chalker, a senior VP of the association that put this study out. But describing patients as having more complicated conditions and adding a secondary diagnosis like anemia or low sodium, the hospital. Hospitals were paid an average of nearly $12,000 more per case. Jesus Christ. AI has become an increasingly powerful tool in the continuing coding wars between

insurance companies on one side and hospitals and doctors on the other. Essentially, you've got a problem. I mean, dude, just think about how bleak that is. And, like, and, you know, what's even more bleak is, I won't go through the whole article, but like this one industry person is being like, whoa, there's still some added benefits to AI, which is that like from a cost cutting perspective, if you turn over all insurance claims to AI, at least you can fire all these insurance people, which is fucking hilarious when you consider that the whole fucking reason they did not want to do universal health care in 2009 was because

they did not want to fire and lay off thousands of fucking insurance. paper put. But now, now, now that the country's over leveraged in AI and it accounts for most of the economy, anything to save anybody can get it as long as it means keeping AI around.

It's incredible, man. It's like you see how the two are kind of pitted against each other, right? And how like we, this has been, this has also been another recurring theme with us the last few weeks, which is that like,

the healthcare system is already under a certain amount of of attack. And I want to talk about that in just a second with regards to J.D. Vance in this program that he's heading up. But the national debt or the, yeah, the national debt has become so, it becomes such a crisis point now precisely because of several things that have happened in the last six months like the war. And then the knock on effects of that, which is that treasury bonds, the long-term treasury bonds have a higher year. yield than they've had since 2007.

And that is dry. That's going to push up inflation even further. And it's got people. What happened after 2007? I think I went to college. That's what it was. It is my education bill. You did that.

I did that alone. Point being is that like, the Republicans are they've painted themselves into a corner right and um they all in you know we put it pretty explicitly on the episode with Alex Avenia last week but to just repeat it if you're going to start cutting social welfare programs um that means you are automatically also going to essentially undermine the entire national health care paradigm in industry Because so much of that industry literally depends on public subsidy. Could not exist and function without it.

And if you've talked to anybody in the fucking healthcare industry, just today, I was getting my fucking flu shot. And the person that's doing it, she's like, yeah, we're really stressed out today because they don't want to hire anybody else. Hospitals, pharmacies, doctors offices, they're not hiring any new people because no one knows what's coming next. So they're all overworked. They're stressed the fuck out. How do you think that's affecting patient care? Probably not great. The administration wants to essentially destroy the healthcare industry,

at least in its current form. And so add to that, though, the inflationary pressure from AI, the fact that, like, you kind of have to make a choice at a certain point. Do you want to keep putting money into your machine industry that, like, make these silly little programs that don't really benefit anybody? or do you want to actually like, you know, do you want to watch two poor facsimiles of a cat to perform mego songs,

or do you want to, like, you know, be able to live to a rap old age? Yeah. Well, I mean, if you believe that a system is basically constitutes what it does, right, its functions, right? That's what it is, which in the healthcare industry, it's not actually about taking care of people.

It seems to be prolonging illness or straight up just killing them. them through denying them health care and putting them in debt, you know, then it seems perfect that AI would be well suited to the task, you know? A hundred percent. And once again, it's symbolically, it's the perfect. It's the perfect fucking symbol to do it as well. When does that like a billion dollars, billion dollars in profit, sorry, translate to like

a million deaths, you know, or 100,000, you know, or more, you know. I don't know. I mean, to further validate what I'm just saying here, um, I don't know if you'll saw that thing for Mr. Oz. Mr. Oz. My bad. That was not on purpose. That's awesome.

Mr. Oz is my father. I love that the negation of doctorate. Mr. T's brother. But he, you know, and J.D. Vance, like they've had this, they had this like press conference this week. Trump officials ejects 750,000 people. from Obamacare markets claiming fraud. The Trump administration has ejected more than 750,000 people, almost a million enrollees from the ACA insurance marketplaces.

Vice President J.D. Vance announced on Tuesday, claiming that many were receiving premium subsidies they did not qualify for and that some were not real people. We're actually making sure that the people receiving Obamacare subsidies are actually entitled to receive them. What does he mean? Not real people? What does he mean? Like they're fake people?

Like when they talk about... Like, yeah, people. Yeah, like when they talk about fake voters, like, you know, Democrats stacking up fake voters, you know, non-existent voters. It's like all the AI characters show up to sign up on Obamacare. That's a funny bet. It's like Elvis as a race car driver shows up.

It's like, I'll take the bronze plan. Homer singing third eye blind. Muhammad Altai SpongeBob. Yeah. signed up for the goal player. I think what it was was this kind of happened to me actually.

I had an insurance broker signed me up for some shit that I didn't even ask for. These insurance brokers for the marketplace, dude, this whole thing is so fucked beyond belief. Like even trying to talk about it drives me insane. But so there's

insurance brokers for the marketplace programs, right? And they get paid on commission. for how many people they sign up for a health care plan. And there has been a lot of fraud where they've just been signing up fake people to get paid off of commission.

But that is not like, to me, you know, the right wing looks at this stuff and is like, oh, this is just an example of government waste and socialism and all this. But to me, it's just another perfect example of like how absolutely fucking stupid the Affordable Care Act was that it tried to like carve out this middle ground

between, you know, fully socialized medicine and keeping intact private ties to health care insurance markets, which that wasn't even the point. The whole point was just trying to stabilize health care insurance because the whole fucking thing is naturally inflationary. It's unstable. And Republicans are finding that out now in their own way. But I don't know, man, it's a...

I don't know if it makes any sense, but... No, no. But a lot of people are going to, a lot of people are paying the price for that now for both Democrats and Republicans failure on this. This is not just a Republican, like, this is not just like Republicans doing this, even though they're the ones literally doing it. They're doing it because the liberals in their inability to actually stand up to an industry, in this case, the private health care industry, have created like a situation that opens them up to critique on this. and that opens up a right-wing challenge to it, which is all the more fucking ironic, going back to what we were saying just a second ago,

that, like, AI is going to put all those fucking people out of work anyways, that they were too afraid to fucking... With great challenge comes great opportunity, though, gentlemen. And with that said, I'm thinking about getting in on the ground floor of bringing phage therapy back. The Soviets were heavy into it, and I guess to some degree the Cubans are doing it

like the lung cancer vaccine, things like that. So watch this space. Well, you know, that's, you know, that's kind of like the health care AI stuff going on at the moment. You know, and I don't know. I mean, I just thought it was kind of an interesting insight into, I don't know, some of the, of the choices facing policy makers in the United States.

But there's a few more data points I kind of wanted to just kind of like riff on for just a second. And then we can start wrapping up if you want. I mean, I also have this New York Times article about this like techno-utopian city in Bogota, or Bolivia, that I wanted to read, but maybe we'll save that for the Patreon.

Then there's a story out of Boston about the lesbian barring the clown school if you yet to get that. There's the story. We can get to that too. We can get that one as well. Well, we'll just see which one every well and you'll want to cover, you know. But so you've got AI and healthcare.

You know, if I could just say, though, like, this has been a very, it's been another strange week in, like, like, right-wing Trump, two. because they're kind of like at a point where they've painted themselves into a corner so badly that they are now talking about doing like a diesel export ban which so um this all comes from oil patch gas for us that weren't raised in the the belly of the beast really has nothing to do with the oil patch this this is this really has everything to do with the farm states. Huh. Like Ohio,

South Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska. Diesel is how farmers farm. They need diesel to run their machines.

And diesel is the, it's currently has the highest price it's ever had in the history of diesel.

Oh, it's approaching 10 bucks in some places, yeah? Yeah. And so, um,

a lot of these farm states on top of the time when Trump, I'm also buying all the goddamn weird beef from Argentina and shit. So I'm glad you brought that up because he's also considering calling that deal off. But they can't decide whether they want to do that or not.

So he... Whether they want to fuck over the farmers or like Americans' tummies? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's once again, that's the choices. Fuck over the farmers. Fuck up the asshole. The literal assholes.

the toilet. But it's the same, it's kind of the same principle with the diesel. But just to summarize, Farm State people like Chuck Grassley, Josh Hawley, some Iowa people, you know, that's, I don't know their names.

Have started calling on, have started calling on the Trump to put in a diesel export ban. The reason why this is very significant is a big reason why is because the Russia-Ukraine war. Europe depends on American diesel. It's got to have it because of the Russian-Ukraine war. And so if you fuck that up, you're probably going to see some interesting social events occur in Europe. You know, fuel riot.

Things usually move at a snail's pace. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, the effect that this has had man is just bizarre because big oil does not want a diesel export ban. They think that, like, this would not solve the problem. It's actually most likely going to drive up unleaded fuel costs and jet fuel cost because of the way we refined diesel fuel. and it's going to essentially cut back on oil profits as well. They fucked this all up.

This is like when your cat walks crush your goddamn keyboard. You know? Just listen to this article from Politico. Diesel export fights strange GOP ties with big oil. The marriage between Hill Republicans in the, the fossil fuel industry is now showing signs of fracture as a potential diesel export ban put strain on a long-standing alliance. Dude, I mean, but this is kind of, I mentioned this on a recent episode as well.

Things are so bottom of the barrel. They are so bass acords. Just, yeah, just bottom of the barrel, man, that, like, there's no one to root for here. Like, you know what I mean? I'm not going to root for big oil against Trump. but I'm not going to run for Trump against big oil, but I'm not going to root for Europe against American diesel or fucking, you know what I mean?

Like, what the fuck? Yeah. It's just, there's just replete with that. There's no sympathetic characters here. Just a bunch of idiots walking across their collective keyboard. Man, that is the damnedest thing I've ever said.

I'll tell you this. I mean, we can pluror the Democrats as pussies and cowards and stuff all day and rightly so, and we'll continue to do that. but any Republican that ever opens their mouth to talk about like common sense solutions

of the future of America should instantly be dipped in a vat of acid like and that's a charitable end for them like these people need to fuck off I'll stop I'll stop it's just you just can't you just can't like they should just yeah okay go up to it

well but if I could take it even further man Oh, this is another little article here. Well, okay, just on this note, real quick, the diesel export band thing is going to piss off all of Europe, all right? The ironic thing is that, like, I feel like an anti-American campaign in European politics would actually go pretty far. It would do pretty well in European politics. But they can't really do it because they've expended all their social chauvinism capital on. Russia. Right.

And also they're extremely deferential to Trump for so goddamn reason. They can't stand up to him. The only guy who can is Mark fucking Carney, the Canadians? Yeah. You know? It's just like what I'm saying is here. Like what would make most sense and would unite Europe and prevent like another World War I or World War II type situation is if Europe just banded together and fucking

went to war with America. Instead of like during World War II we wanted America, we want to join America to join the war. At no time like the president, I have to say either, because we got six missiles left. But they're all rearming. Europe is.

Europe is rearming because they think that Russia is about to invade soon. There's a lot of rumors right now that Russia is about to invade another NATO country. You know how we just reboot like IP movies and stuff like that? Maybe we just need to reboot wars. Maybe we shouldn't do World War II again. But same playing field's driving.

on, you know. I mean, obviously we can skip over some parts. But... Is it different sides? No, no, no. Just probably the same allegiances. I mean, you know, Trump was talking about re-arming the Japanese, and it took them all of 12 hours to think about how to stick it to China.

So... Jesus. Well, I mean, nobody ever grows up. No, no, everybody ever grows up. It's just, it's a bad situation, boys, is what I'm saying. It's like, it's pretty bad. It's like all the early stages, all the early signs of probably a bad armed global conflict. Which will be bookended by climate catastrophe of like real consequences.

At the same time, we're being replaced by whatever AIS. Mm-hmm. You know? But, a faulty, you know. whatever I don't know it's it just seems like I don't know

I don't know what you it's a page one rewrite yeah that's all there is to it I don't know how you just just find any meat on that bone to make you know some chicken salad out chicken shit here

one thing I have noticed have you'll notice have you'll notice how the Republicans have kind of stopped talking about trying to steal the election like that is I don't know that's a good question

I really don't know. You think it's because maybe they feel like they're going to get their asses kicked? Well, you would think that they know they're going to get their asses kicked so they'd try even harder to get do some sort of voter suppression but they've,

I guess Congress is like in recess now and senators have gone home or some shit for the elections, but I don't, you would, you know, they're trying to do that Save Act, Save America Act thing that would like make it to where you have to show a birth certificate at the poll. Like they've stopped

talking about that. They've just given up in many ways. They have retreated. Maybe what it is, too, is that they're saving it for, if they do end up losing the election, they can bring it back out anew, fresh, you know. Warm and hot and ready. Yeah. Maybe the appetite for the end is so much they'll have.

They just go out over and sweep the elections. And it's like, we are in a death spiral. well I'm sorry guys you're probably getting tired I think we expended all of our energy on that article that we've not read yet we're going to read but I think we expended

it all on that one and so I apologize I don't know what do y'all want to do you don't want to try to read this article about the tech utopia and Bolivia or you want to call it a day we can do that

we can read the tech Yeah, I'm sorry. Didn't mean to suggest my energy was dipping. No, it's all right. I got plenty left in the time. I mean, I tried to get deep in the woods on economics. There's only so far I can follow you there. I'm sorry.

There's only so far I can follow myself. On account of how dumb. I'm a dumb motherfucker. Well, this is in the New York Times These tech utopians Want to build a city for the post-AI world The American tech I mean, before you get too far into it

I'm guessing none of these guys have names Like Olivares or Gonzalez Or Morales Let's scan the article here No, don't see it There is an Eduardo Batista. Wait.

Bastista. No, no, Bastita. Okay. That quickly went from Latin to Italian. Little bastard. Eduardo Little Bastard.

The American Tech Utopians had spent years scouring the globe for a place to build their city of the future. The founders of Praxis, a company and online community backed by hundreds of millions of dollars in financing from a crypto company

surveyed the Mediterranean region, but say it was too close to active conflicts. Lumber. We can't have our utopian city next to a place that's popping off on it. We can't build near genocide alley. What's wrong with the... Bad for the vibes.

What's wrong with America? Why couldn't they do it here, homegrown like take it to Greenboro, Greenboro, Alabama. Yeah.

They're crying out for for jobs down there. Put it in the deep south would be good. My boy

wants to go back to the crypto mines. Honestly, the only place that they could probably put it without significant

backlash is maybe somewhere. No, actually it's not even true. Because I was going to say Atlanta's becoming like

this, I don't know, this. Atlanta. has been coming the South has been becoming something

for as long as I've known about Atlanta brother I do and motherfuckers don't stop trying to be something

that's the goddamas thing I ever seen we're the new Hollywood we either knew this you know what

god damn in Atlanta spread it out a little bit fuck sake uh well they're missing out

in an opportunity um every goddamn rap song you heard for the last 30 years come from fucking Atlanta you know what I mean

and I I ain't mad about that entirely. Most of them are good. Most of them work good. Yeah, that's true. They had to run. Anyways, they said they had mold buying Greenland, but faced public pushback. Yeah, I think Greenland has a little bit too much going on.

People would tussly go over to Green a little bit too much right now. That's crazy that they... Did they really have enough money to buy Greenland? Like, America couldn't even take it by diplomatic and military force, but... These people would just buy it. It'd be funny now. We can't even take it by military force on the count of having four bombs left.

Also, it's too icy. They would step down and they'd slip, throw out their backs. Now they claim to have finally found a home for their project to reinvigorate Western culture along the riverbanks of Uruguay. Oh, it's not Bolivia, it's Uruguay, sorry.

Uruguay. The world tour has concluded We've chosen Uruguay. Dryden Brown, the chief executive of Praxis said at an interview. It's the coolest thing ever. I just, we've chosen, but did Uruguay choose you? Yeah. I like the world tour.

It's like sounds like the Justin Timberlake. Which tour? The world tour. He says, it's the coolest thing ever. Mr. Brown, 30, a former professional surfer who left his last job at 20. has since pledged to build a new civilization. You know, how did these things get in position? A former surfer?

Left your job at 23? What the fuck is his dad? Like an oil magnet or something like that? Like, what the fuck's going on? We, listen, and listen, when I say this, I understand this critique could be applied to podcaster. So I'm saying this with a healthy dose of self-crit. We got a lot of motherfuckers out of their depth.

Just referred to my old story about the water plant operating. It's like that, but they have, they're resourced and are rich. Yeah. Praxis World Congress speech transcript. Oh my God, here's the fucking speech. Look around this room. Remember these faces. You are witnessing the first gathering of what will one day require rally grounds to contain

with millions watching worldwide. This is the moment when our global citizen transforms into something greater. How many of you have ever. imagine you would found a new nation. Perhaps you thought such moments belonged to history books. It's the fucking lame as shit I've ever read. You give a dick and too much, buddy. He started talking like Sephardoth,

bro. That's exactly. We got too many motherfuckers. We shouldn't give these guys money. Dude. It's like that guy, this guy, me and Terrence know back home. Every goddamn post he makes is some schmaltzy bullshit about how we need to he opened up one of his poems

on Facebook the other day with the elected officials of the power struggle. Yeah, well, no shit, man. This whole fucking thing goes through the history of humanity. Like, bro, your manifesto cannot have that much shit

in it. It's not... It needs to be catchy, bro. It needs to be catchy. It needs to be pithier. It feels like he's living about 10, 12 years ago, though. Uh-huh. Honestly. Like, that's something that would have caught wildfire in 2014. Now, dude, we're on to be trying to

become wolves. Actual lunatics in the literal sense of the word. Yeah, we're regressing, actually. That is true. They should, like, if you're one of these people and you're trying to create a new civilization or city, like, give up. Try to create a new zoonotic or zoophilic. Like, try to make an ant-hill.

I'm trying to make the new utopian ant-hill dog. at the Anhill. Maybe at the... What if we kissed at the Utopian Anhill? The wolf's den. What if we're kissed in a Timberwolf's den?

They just need to hire a bunch of Dr. Moreau motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? Well, see, that's what I'm saying. You know the guy we make fun of all the time that we were like, he tried to put like a monkey's head on a human's head or something like that?

Uh-huh. At least he was trying something. No. So take that and then build a whole society. out of it. Yeah. That would be sick. The blueprint is in the failed project

of what would have been Richard Stanley's island of Dr. Monroe. Mr. Brown 30, a former professional surfer who left his last job at 23. Oh, God. I want to look that up. Can one of you guys look that

up? Look up Dryden Brown. See who his dad is. He's got it. He's got it. He's got it. The name like Driden, there's zero chance he grew up in the projects. Dry Dick Dry Dick Brown Conversation Oh man

He's way bitch made He's got a Valenciauga T-shirt on Yeah So there's a tech utopian Project Dryden Brown introduction He does have chest

There's nice I guess I wish I had chest air Like that Bio Here's his bio from his website Son of the Revolution

Ancestors fought The American Revolutionary War Oh come on 12 2012 dropped out of middle school to compete in surf contest

NSSA Gold Coast Men's championship is he Australian too? No also I feel like

these two quotes are also here's the third line homeschooled yeah it shows philosophy economics and

technology I feel like these two quotes these little factoids on the Wikipedia page are interesting in

2022 Brown told a speechwriter that his inspiration for Praxis came when he saw people looting stores in Soho during the George Floyd protests. There it is. And they don't know. Somebody, one of the things, somebody said, a former practice employee said,

Brown's ideal governance is authoritarian fascism without religion. And instead, the state party is holding everything together. What? He generally believed that black people are not as smart as white people. Okay. Oh, holy shit. So now we're getting to it.

Okay. I didn't. I didn't like pour through this, come through this article with a fine comb. Hey, can I, let me finish his bio here, guys. At 18, became interested in new cities. Moved to New York City to work at Pershing Square. The same way, 18, I became interested in new drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was investing in the largest nude city developer in the U.S.

Pitched Bitcoin and Hertz. Did you say new? Huh? New city or nude? No, new cities. Nude city. Nude cities. Dude.

That is one of the... That is a great dumb guy quote. I became interested in new cities at 18. Yeah. Interested in AI brain mind. Studied consciousness with David Chalmers and Peter Unger. I could see why you would be if you're this fucking goddamn stupid, why you would be interested in brains.

Economics with Marco Rizzo. It's like... He's interested in brains in the same way. that I'm interested in money. It's like, I want one. I want some. He's like, I want a brain. It's aspirational.

Mostly made art with GANs or generative adversarial networks. That doesn't sound great. 20, age 20, worked at a large hedge fund as a quantitative researcher. A revelation that Western, 20 also had a revelation that Western civilization will collapse

unless we unite around a new cultural. Corey to achieve technological supremacy. At 23, started Praxis, first ever digital nation, 150,000 Praxians to save the West by uniting the people, building a strong culture, and accelerating a line technology.

Have we talked about this before? This sounds familiar. It sounds kind of familiar. Well, it's hard to say because, it's hard to say because about every third guy is trying to do this now. That is true. This is pretty endemic. Using traditional Western philosophy, and novel governance theory, financial mechanisms, and cryptography. Here's where it gets interesting.

Interested in ancient myths, especially the Grail legend. Oh, okay. I want to tell you got something. If you're with, I'm very convicted of this. We live on a goddamn teenage planet. We do. We do. Everybody, everybody is like regressed to being 17 years old.

You're right. You're right. Dude. The, the, uh, like I said, I didn't pour through this article closely, but I don't remember it saying at any point in the article that he views black people as inferior. So that's hilarious that the New York Times was like,

that slipped through the filter. Let's just leave that. But I could be wrong. They might bring it up later, actually. I should point that out. He has drawn sustained skepticism and courted controversy for promoting a muscle-bound Western-centric vision of society.

and now plans to build his hub within another... Okay, wait, I'm so confused here. Where the fuck did he get enough money to build a new city? Where the fuck did he get enough money to buy a part of Uruguay? Yeah, from surfing proceeds?

No, dude. Fuck no. Also, too, it's not really a new city, it's a city built within the city that already exists. Uh-huh. Is that where you were going with this?

And your folks are on the wrong sorts of details. hair. I'm just saying, be genuine about it. Be real about it, brother. I wasn't know where this money came from. Who is drowding Browns? Droughton Browns? Droughton, droughted Browns.

I think he's claiming it either came from crypto or my guess would be maybe a banana boat sponsorship when he was a boy surfer. Uh-huh. He must, he oiled up dudes, enough dudes. enough dudes to he saved up money. Dry brown money. It doesn't say

his public details about his family background focused broadly on his upbringing in Santa Barbara and his Irish-American ancestry. Okay, he grew up in Santa Barbara though. I mean... His family came from Ireland

escaping famine and religious persecution. Shut the fuck up, bitch. Well, Scottish Presbyterianism? Dude, fuck off. It's just like, okay, that's fine. Like, you... Yes, the Irish were persecuted. You cannot claim that as an oppressed identity in 2021, or 2021.

Jesus fucking Christ, I'm stupid as fuck. 2026. Top traveling, bro. Dude, that's a... absurd. Economy. Economy. All right.

It's just like I don't, I guess maybe he's really good at crypto. He does not look. Nobody's really good at crypto. I can't believe that. Dude. Now plans to build his hub within another startup city

an Argentine company is building. Okay, you're right here. That's thematically sound. It's a city within a city. It's a city within a startup city. Like, dude, okay, you're just... You need a break ground on a actual new city, brother. Stop stealing other people's shit.

That project called Plus Colonia is led by Eduardo Bastita, an entrepreneur whom Javier Malay of Argentina named as an advisor. Praxis has so far... This project's in good hands. Praxis is the man that can't keep his own goddamn economy aflox. Praxis has so far only signed a largely non-binding deal with plus colonia.

These guys are so racist, they can't even do good business. It's like, oh, I'm going to put like the ten dumbest guys in like global finance in charge of my nascent startup, including a guy that preside. over an economic crash so bad it left this nation's people eating wood and donkeys. Yeah, tree bark. Yeah. Still, the deal hints at the rising appeal of the southernmost part of the Americas as a tech escape route following the billionaire Peter Till's recent decampment to the region. It offers a glimpse into what one of Silicon Valley's most whimsical tech utopian enclaves could look like. and then there's some photos.

I don't know if Wimsa is the right word there, but okay. It has some photos of the construction. Mr. Brown is planning to move to Uruguay as soon as December, which is, quote, going to be awesome, he said. While more members of his community are expected to move into the first buildings in plus colonia, colonia next year, that would already be a substantial step for a community that has largely existed only online and gathered at New York parties where members wore dog tags reading

Meet Me in the Eternal City. Wait, Hosa, hold on. I was su big as well, give it, because those little factoid I read earlier, one was from the New York Times, one of them was from the New York Times, another was from Mother Jones, but this guy's obviously fucking racist. What if you're a black guy? Because if it's a digital community, I'm sure people don't know how they look. So what if you're the one black guy that shows up?

And they're just like, are you lost? Like, oh, I've come to join this city of Prachsh. Yeah, this practice sounded cool. Maybe you didn't read the pamphlet. Maybe you didn't see the pictures of the smiling white faces. Sorry. So, okay, and it says here, Praxis, according to its agreement in Uruguay,

would start acquiring land by the end of next year within the plus Colonia property, a barren stretch with rolling dunes about an hour-long ferry ride from Buenos Aires. Buenos Aires. They picked a terrain that would match any panties

that they come across. Oh, man. The median household income in Santa Barbara is $106,000, so he's come from money. He comes from money. I mean It's

It's And so like him saying He dropped out of middle school Like no bitch Your parents probably took you out of middle school And put you in homeschool You didn't fucking The clue is in

Became Pro Surfer at 12 That's Rich Kitchin Yeah Also Terrence I'm seeing plus colonia The name of the city That's already in Uruguay And I didn't realize

When you were saying plus I thought it was spelled out It's actually the fucking plus sign It's the plus sign That's so fucking lame you Listen to this quote from Dryden Brown Having like an actual place is like really really fire Yeah

Oh my fucking It's just like There are certain people that if you like put them up against a wall And pointed a gun at them And like we're gonna execute you Like it's just at the point There are certain people that would like piss their pants and plead. I probably would too.

And then there are people that maybe would try to like bargain their way out of it or whatever. But then there's, but then there are people that are like too stupid to even really know like what's going on or like to see that the writing on the wall. Like that's this guy to be like, what, dude? That's like, he's fired, dude. The acts of places really, me.

future residents of the new city whom Mr. Brown described as, quote, the most talented, sharp sort of thinkers in the world would launch new cultural, economic, and governance systems for a post-AI world. Who are these, like, sharp thinkers in the world, though? I think everybody is, almost everybody. There's, like, a couple of guys I'll listen to up,

oh, man, that's a guy that's making some sense now. You know, like this guy that's like, we can't terraform Mars. We've not even successfully did a dome project on Earth. What makes you think we're going to do something on Mars? I'm like, oh, that's like a guy that's like still has his brain intact. Everybody else sounds like their intelligence compares favorably to like a wounded Cocker Spanion. That's probably an insult, an insult to Cocker Spanions. This guy who supposedly has some insane, like intellectual, you know, I mean,

ostensibly if he's really about that shit, like you would think he's got some intellectual worldview to back up his whole white people of the superior race. But when you actually put a microphone in front of him, he's like, it's like when you, the sand, we got a cool place. It's fire. It's like fire.

It's so fire there. I'm looking at his Twitter account, and he has a picture of a bunch of dudes who are probably underpaid, for sure and overworked with a bunch of like sawing wooden shit like that he says we building It is like literally just a couple of guys

Y'all dress up like the snow white I don't like I don't like this but you know The details are thin But the ambition is huge Mr. Brown says the city will be a

laboratory for creating a new culture drawing from oh shit not bad I clicked off the article which a new culture drawing from classical Greek Roman and Renaissance as the gods are so fucking predictable it's always the same shit they're interested in man and the virtues

the virtues of truth beauty and heroism as embodied by the Greek god Apollo Praxis preferred deity dude it is just like unreal levels of dry dickness and bitch assidness. Like, if you have a preferred Greek deity that you're going to make your city's deity, like, dude, can you imagine the type of people that would live in a city that, like, worships a Greek?

Well, also, if you know anything about the Greek pantheon, you know, they wouldn't have anything to do with something like this because they'd be getting pussy. Maybe getting dick in the Bacchanal. Yeah, it may be getting dick and. getting drunken, whatever. They wouldn't have nothing to do with it. It's like, oh, Apollo,

come join us in practice. Like, nah, no, man, I got, I got, like, 10-11 bitches up here. I got a 10, so, man. About the fucks of goddesses. It's also, like, you're in Uruguay. The name Apollo, that's, like, a pollo.

Like, imagine, like a chicken? Yeah, a chicken, like a guy, like a bouleveria, or Uruguayan peasant, wanders in, he's like, aboyo? Not boll. Chicken city? They worship chicken.

Oh my God, that's too fucking good, dude. Man, we got really, ever since Mojica died, we got really sick, kind of put the paws on Uruguay until we fear what's going on there. They were cooking for a while, and I'm not so sure that they're not heading the way of the Argentines. Mr. Brown's plan is part of a, a broader drive among Silicon Valley entrepreneurs to build tech-friendly havens run like

for-profit corporations. The movement is inspired by the concept of a network state, first popularized by Balaji Shrinivasin, the former chief technology officer of Coinbase. In Mr. Shrinivassan's vision, online communities bound by shared values, eventually crowdfund physical territory for many nations with their own laws and secure diplomatic recognition. That's a biggest scam in the world. fucking world. You're a dumbass if you fund that shit, bro.

You're not like a fucking billionaire. I think we talked a little bit about this. We talked about Prospera. Wasn't that another city? Oh, yeah. Okay. That's what it was. Critics, I don't remember anything about that, though. I have like a really bad memory. I just remember the name because it just sounds so fucking moronic.

Prispera. Yeah, would you rather live in Prospera? Colonia or fucking praxis What are these fucking names dude The fucking the bitch acidness is so It is so embarrassing If I knew anybody who said they were even remotely involved with this in any way I would be so embarrassed for them

I'd be so fucking embarrassed, mortified It's like it's like it's as if they are creating a city That's like a colony on like another planet but they can't actually get there. So again, all these people that are, they want to just recreate those conditions on Earth. They're like, they're building a city where it's like, no hoes allowed, no girls allowed.

Yeah, it's like the he-man-woman haters. It's the he-man-woman haters club. But if you put it in like an Apple store or something, you know, or are we work? Oh, we worked, Dave. We took me back. Critics describe attempts to build such a state as elitist efforts by techno-mogals

to secede from society or unfeasible pipe dreams, but supporters, including high-profile venture capitalists like Mark Andresen and Mr. Teal, say they could be essential laboratories for governance

that could help cut through bureaucratic red tape to accelerate technological. Two guys that are famously great at parties. Yo, bro, I'm telling you right now, they're going to have white slaves, dog. I'm telling you somehow. A nerdy, sweaty, gay, and a fucking egghead

come to life. Like, cone head. Come to life. First, first thing they're going to do is legalize slavery. Well, dude, it's funny to me

that they need a laboratory for governance that could help them cut through bureaucratic red tape to accelerate technological innovation as if that's not what the fucking United States is already. A laboratory where they're all using

like, what else do you need to happen here to create a more favorable environment for your little bullshit like internet scheme? Exactly. Like what? Like seriously, what else do you need to have happen here? Are you just tired of the beaches here?

Like, what's going on? Just like, what do you need to do in a laboratory, like, sense, like, if you want to do that, just don't have a government and have it be completely wild west, which, again, that's already what America pretty much is. What they want to do is they want to be able to, like, shoot like a native person or something. and not go to jail for it.

And in the United States, you can't do that anymore. Okay. And so, like, they just want to do, like, weird fucking Epstein shit or something. I don't know. No, 100%. Fronter's shit, bro. That's it, yeah. Perhaps the most prominent attempt at building a startup city is Prospera in Honduras.

All right, we talked about that. You're right. We privately run semi-autonomous city state created under favorable charter city laws. It became entangled in a multi-billion-dollar international arbitration after the hunder and government repealed the legal framework that it allowed it to exist Mr. Brown has said that independent governance is not an immediate requirement for practice since it has already committed to operating within Uruguay's existing legal system he's planning to meet with the president of uruguay this week at the UN General Assembly that would be a different scene

from the milieu in which Mr. Brown started his initiative during the COVID pandemic mr. Brown said he started reading quote kind of weird right wing stuff on the internet and later began bringing quote weird internet right wing people to parties in new york that social circle evolved no that shit's just smell crazy bro he says he claims he has over 2,500 people committed to moving to the new city man that's good with that's good i mean i i i don't wish that on the people of York-wide, but like if they could just get the fuck as far away from me as possible, why do they never try to do this shit unlike Antarctica?

Right, right, exactly. Or like at the rim of a volcano or some shit like that. Yeah, go to the moon. Yeah, death valley. The Mariana trench. Now, don't go to the moon. We need the moon. Yeah, you're right. I don't want to look at their dumb fucking faces on the moon. Go to Mars. Why can't they go to Mars?

That's what they want, right? Yeah, go to Mars, where you will instantly be turned into a fucking puddle. but if you think for some reason you're going to tear it. Practices started raising money in 2021. By 23, it had almost $20 million

from companies that included Sam Altman's venture capital firm Apollo projects and Alameda race research founded by Sam Brigham Has ever been a bit? I mean, there have been plenty of individuals like this history. In modern history, that has had their hands in so many evil nefarious shit, Sam Altman, bro.

Like, every single article I read that's just like just tangentially linked to AI, this motherfucker has something to do with it. Everything that's both foul and sexless, he's got his fingerprints on. Someone pointed this out, but he's like a spitting image of Paul Dreiser's character

in aliens. Yeah. He really is. Man, James Cameron once again. He called it. After initially saying Praxis would be built somewhere in the Mediterranean, Mr. Brown considered Greenland, but he told

TechCrunch Greenlanders Quote have a assertive sense of pride that makes the idea of being bought like almost condescending like why is this guy so fucking stupid? Why does he also know eight words?

Also if you were a normal human being with the moral compass you would understand that that's completely rational to believe you know that position. All right. I was like losing it that fucking stupid this guy is in the New York

time says to treat it like it's an actual serious thing where he's like like you could interview like seriously you know how like some cities will have like a dog be their mayor as like a kicky thing like that your average mayor dog is smarter

than this guy. Dude the tail and he's like his family left Ireland to escape religious persecution that's so goddamn funny 100% of fucking Scott's Irish Protestant a fucking Ulster An Ulster Scott

Yeah he's a fucking Ulster probably Uruguay A small politically stable country Offering easy paths to residency And residency and recitizenship And tax exemptions for newcomers Already satisfied nearly every legal condition Practice members hope to incorporate into their city

It also has a quote Switzerland and South America vibe He said with quote great waves And enough natural beauty to attract For creative professionals and tech executives unemployed because, quote, AI is going to take all the jobs.

I like how they just do that now. They don't even pretend. You know what I mean? They just act like, dude, after AI inevitably flops, not because they won't try to do everything they can to prop it up or whatever, just because like, you know,

in the long run, like, you know, the planet will burn out and we'll have such a state of decay and it'll be chaos and whatever, whatever. I hope that doesn't have. I hope we can get our senses together, but I'm saying if something doesn't change,

that's where we're barreling toward. Like, in a Mad Max situation, these guys aren't going to fare well. Oh, no, dude. They get eaten first, bro. I'm telling you right now. Oh. Uh-huh.

No, I mean, I'm... Yeah. Anyway, I won't make any idle violent. Damn, Tom. Thanks on this. No idle violent threats this week. I'm trying to quit. I do.

dream of a taking a tire iron what's kind of okay let's hear it come on let's draw it out

I don't know I was just going to say something about turning them the pace with a tire iron I don't know well

that's you know that's a nice little fantasy I mean what's interesting is um tech

executives unemployed because quote AI is going to take all the jobs like it's interesting

to me that um all of the accusations and I've said this times, but all the accusations people said

about the Soviet Union, about communism, that, like, there would be this, like, group of elites and the rest of us live in slavery while they get to live in their dachas on the sea and they, like, fucking have slaves, all this. It's like, that's the world

they're creating. Like, they've created socialism for the rich. They're all cashing out. They're all going to be unemployed, unemployable tech, you know, people who just cashed out of, like, their PayPal stocks or whatever

and they will get to use the world as a playground while the rest of us toil away in fucking misery and obscurity I think what they forget though is that if it all collapses

their financial advantages don't count for shit yeah you know what I mean and maybe we'll all be we all really will be wolf people there and then we can hunt hmm

um Leonardo Leonardo Costa, an Uruguayan lawyer, and tax law professor said that in recent years, a growing number of Europeans and North Americans have bought property in Uruguay, drawn in part by its distance from turmoil in other parts of the world. The appeal extends to Uruguay's neighbors. Martin Varsovsky, a Spanish Argentine tech entrepreneur, has built a ranch in the Argentine city of Mendoza, which he said would be a potential shelter in case of another world war. Brother, I think the implication of world war is that nowhere is safe, perhaps. Oh, they'll find you. They will find you.

The world being the operative world. Yeah, exactly. Listen, they dug up Abraham Lincoln like seven times. That man couldn't rest. You damn sure won't be able to. How practice describes its future city state seems to be in constant evolution. Its founders have previously defined it as a quote. quote, crypto state, a quote,

society of portly merchants, muscular warriors, and very thin priests. Portly merchants. The portly merchant. Bro, are you, I, dude,

I want to be a portly merchant in the, in the crypto state. Very thin priest. Why are there, like, body, like, types pointed out, like,

because you always have the thin priest, the fat merchant, and I guess the, the warriors have it. Let's see. Let's see, like the, the,

skinny fat, fucking viceroy? I'm not saying he's bad, but you know he's got them little Daniel Leruso tiddies, you know what I mean? The saggy viceroy? Yeah.

I don't know why it's, I don't know why it's like relevant info that the merchants will be portly in the priest's... I'm not going to lie, it does... It does present a very, like, I can imagine the portals. merchant. You guys a little hat perhaps?

I would say, I would, I would almost say the opposite, like, you want, like, a priest to be, like, have a tonsure and be a little happy set. And you want your merchant to be a little on this. Yeah. And

a crypto state in an entity that would need a, quote, special legal and regulatory environment. Oh, the crypto state is the entity that would need a special legal and regulatory environment. Now Mr. Brown appears to have softened his pitch, calling it a place with, quote, awesome yoga and quote, great DJs where, quote, your friend who's like a painter is going and they're doing like a show there. Because of his emphasis on Western aesthetics and Nietzschean references to social hierarchies and martial virtues, critics have called Dr. Brown's, movement and alt-right internet.

Dr. Brown? Or Mr. Brown. That's the second time I've done that today. Mr. I was like, who credentialed this man? He knows eight words. Three of them are a lot. But while Mr. Brown says he is, quote, definitely not a Democrat,

and quote, not a woke guy. He resists being categorized his right wing, deeming the right-left political framing, very boomer. Anyone who says that is definitely a fashion. 100%, dude.

I'm sorry. Uh-huh. Oh, man. Oh, my God. This person says, Raymond Crabb, a history professor at Cornell, said, I can't tell if it's a troll

or if it's real. I'm also starting to wonder listening to this guy. Mr. Bastita, the plus Colonia entrepreneur who built a successful logistics company dismissed naysayers. He said his own project had initially faced objections from skeptics, but now

with $290 million committed to the development, several buildings under construction and hundreds of apartments sold. Everyone has gone quiet. Last year, the president of Uruguay during a visit called Colonia, a very innovative project, or I'm sorry, plus colonia.

It is being erected along a nearly five-mile stretch of the Rio de la Plata coastline. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. Wait, hold up.

So these motherfuckers are not thinking about rise and sea levels and none of that shit. Seems like by a coastline seems like the worst place to build a new city,

brother. Dude. Dude. They thought... He'll be surfing, dig it? Oh, Aaron, Aaron. Aaron.

Aaron. Yeah. Literal. Killer waves. These guys honestly don't think the sky's ever going to fall. No. No.

It's like if we do believe, and I have to maintain belief in this on some level, that the universe does, at least in most cases, correct. The come-upance these guys gets is got to be like both comical and biblical.

It's got to be fun. but it's also, like, their flesh has to, like, burn off of them or something. They're just skeletons running around on fire. Like, we have to, I don't know, it just has to be something. I just, like, that's what I'm saying, send them to Mars. Like, they want to do the tech thing. And, like, I think that, like, a fitting end for them would be, like, that scene in total recall where Arnold, you know, is out on the Mars. If these guys ever saw three titties on a woman, they would die of them.

It would be three more than they've ever seen before. But them being on the Martian surface where his eyes are like and his skin is like boiling and stuff. His face blows up. Yeah. Like that would be a good, I think, like fitting in. For them. That'd be cool.

But anyways, that's how the article ends. I mean, it ends with Mr. Bastita. He says, I like their vision. Their story is very powerful. he's a libertarian. He said he wants to design a smart ecosystem for tech workers. He said praxis would occupy a significant portion of the development. So it's all working out for him.

You know what I'm going to do, bro? I'm going to do a petition to get like 250,000 black people to move into that as soon as they all. There goes the neighborhood. Be like, hey, man, we're here for the Western values. We heard about those parties, brother. We're here. Yeah. Oh, shit.

Well, it's all I got for this week. And, yeah. All right. That's all I got. Moving right next door. Got Black Praxis. Blacks So thanks for listening this week

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