Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 69: The Woke Strawman and Other Tall Tales

Episode Date: September 13, 2018

On our 69th episode, Tarence identifies a disturbing trend in social media wokeness, Tanya lets the fame go to her head, and Tom verifies the tallest tale he's ever told. Don't forget to check us out on Patreon, where we release weekly episodes every Sunday: patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

Let me get these levels checked I've got the good levels And I'm going to Break your neck Okay, well while you're taking levels I need to clarify The joke I made About the Comptown book

Listen Please do I knew That it was Choppo's fucking book right right but what i did slightly also think is that come town was slang for choppo trap house i thought it was just like a funny thing people call choppo trap house now i know it's its own podcast i didn't i didn't realize i i do did you dwell on that for a few days uh no but what made me think of it is uh you just signed me into the triple oh and it's the first and it's the first

thing that came up with official come town podcast and i was like oh okay well there we go. Oh, Jesus Christ. It doesn't matter. Pretty much is all the same anyways. That was my point, I think. Except I actually thought they were the same. The actual, literal same. Because every time I saw anyone talk about Comptown, I just assumed they were talking about Choppo. When you said you needed to clarify something,

I thought you were going, I thought it was going to be like a legitimately problematic joke or something you thought you know those i don't understand at all but i'm actually really problematic i never do come to terms with it realize you're doing it no no i never do come to terms with those right right right and if i do i wouldn't admit it publicly. I'm a politician that doubles down on the dumb shit. You know, like, we know you wrecked that car and buried that body. And I'm like, what? I've never driven a car.

I've never seen a body. That's the Tom Sexton, like. Oh, yeah. That's the Tom Sexton way. Deny. Deny. Deny. Deflect. Always deny. like oh yeah that's the tom sexton way deny deny deny deflect always deny always be denying yeah it's like the glenn gary glenn ross of i know he's so bad it's like oh hey tom i thought

i saw you didn't see me at the grocery store like not a big deal he'll he will deny things that are totally innocuous. No repercussions at all. You can just tell me. He really does. Before you can finish that, he's like, oh no, no. I never heard of him.

It's just his default mode to always be juking and jiving. Dodging. Heisman. Tom Sexton. Dodge the Tom. Tom the Dodge Sexton.

Shit. I got to get my inhaler. So it sounds like Lucian is straight up making this movie. I saw him in Heritage the other day. Yeah. I told y'all he was going to be here, didn't I? Yeah. I told him I would.

I didn't remember if I actually did, though. Yeah, I saw him in there. Oh, good. Because I wasn't in town. But, yeah, Tommy was hanging out with him, so I asked Tommy who he interviewed. What's up? Oh, fuck. Are those Girl Scout cookies?

No, those are parents' sweets right here. Oh, fuck. Those are for me? Oh dude Nice You want some Tanya? This man literally brings gifts for Terrence

No mention of me Not even on the radar Watch my cat motherfucker and you'll get gifts I put in the work for this Tanya Hey do something for me, Tonya. I watched Arrow for a week and

read old back issues of Jackman to her so she'd go to sleep. Do you want some? No, I'm good right now. My macaroons. I'm still not even clear at 32 years of age what a fucking macaroni is.

Oh, eat one. You never had one? I have, but I don't remember it. They're delicious. I had macaroons when I went to Europe that time.

Back in the 80s, eh? That one time. What is this, Tom? Incense of the West. Burner and 20 bricks of pinon incense. Made in New Mexico. You're right. It's from Albuquerque.

Which is funny because y'all were in Michigan. Yeah. Real colloquial gift. We just saw one of those. You know those hipstery tchotchke shops? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like Trader Joe's.

That's where the macaroons came from. Look at this. It really is like an incense brick. I think you have to build it and it takes the form of a steam engine when you're done. No way. It's like Lincoln Logs, for instance.

Lincoln Logs. Jesus. You've got to be shitting me. It could be a fun craft that'll make your house smell good, too. Oh, my God. Or burn it down. They kind of look like fiber pills. You ever taken fiber? You know me. I'm all about that fiber.

More times than I care to admit it. I gotta have that fiber. I thought you'd do shit all the time. Well. It can go either way. The thing is, is you want to keep it regular. That's the key. So you don't want it to, you don't want it like, you know, you don't want the runs, but

you also don't want it clocked up. And so. This is common sense. Just the right amount of fiber is the key there. Just the right amount of fiber. Exactly. Exactly. Well, I ate a salad for lunch like I fucking hate myself.

So I feel like I'm. I ate a salad for lunch too. On the fiber train. You mean you eat salads when you're going through particular periods periods of self-loathing no i just anytime i every time i eat a salad i think about the like women laughing into salads stock photos and i always go on a spiral of like you get self-conscious when you eat a salad in public yeah you feel like you're a stock photo is that why is this people this is what people want to see me doing is this what is this like gonna really give people a lot of joy seeing me eat this fucking spinach yeah you have a public

persona you gotta protect and cultivate now except i was sitting alone on a couch in my office we were at that show on Friday, Saturday night. And I swear to God, every time I ran into Tanya, she'd be like, someone came up to me about, asked me if I was in the Tribblies. And I was just like. People all weekend hit me up. I met four new Tribblies fans this weekend that I didn't know before. Yeah.

I mean, I don't feel like, do I post that many selfies that people would just recognize me in the wild? Well, it's kind of like what i was saying we do have that one photo shoot yeah but we're really not visual yet i feel like do people know what we look like i'm pretty anonymous out of the three of us i guess if you follow me on instagram tom is pinching but i don't feel like a lot of tribbly fans follow me on instagram my instagram is mostly people i know yeah Yeah. Damn. Anyway, yeah. It was, yeah, I met Drew

Frog. He was cool. Shout out to Drew. Drew's a real one. I like Drew. Yeah, I do too. And then we square danced. That's cool. He wasn't my partner, but he was in the square dance. I square danced for the first time in years. You know, I never fuck with a square dance. I'm usually just having to work or just like whatever. I gotta be around.

I don't really like square dancing. I got day drunk enough to square dance. I don't like being told how to dance. That usually just having to work or it's like whatever i gotta be around but i don't really like square dancing i got day drunk enough to square dance i don't like being told how to dance that's why i don't like it you know what i'm saying well this call y'all know abby abby's been doing this like hip gender neutral calling yeah and i wanted to see if i could tell a difference okay so what what do you say partner yeah that's i guess that's already that's already in square dance yeah you just know but yeah that's i don't think you have to add gender neutral to that it is by design no if you notice most square dances are highly gendered like that's true yeah it's like okay because if you're if you're like gonna so if i'm gonna like pair up with another girl to square dance they will come and say which one of you is the man i've literally been asked that question before

fascinating and you have because you have to decide who's on which side blah blah this it doesn't matter why is that nobody fucking cares is there like feats of gymnastics that like they presume only men can do or something why do they during square dancing? No, it's just... I don't know why. I mean, I don't know the fucking history of square dancing, nor do I care, but... Actually, I do care because I think it's a pretty colonizing

history. If I had a dollar for every time somebody asked me which one was the man. Speaking of partner, though, speaking of of partner i'm trying to find this uh screenshot tom already knows where i'm going with this i've been sitting on this one for like two weeks because i wanted to talk to tanya about it oh how y'all decided mind squeezes main squeeze partners out mind squeeze is in That's what you say Oh

Oh oh Well Tom did Well There's A pro pros of that Um One tweet we were

Talking about earlier Apropos Apropos Apropos How do you say that I think it's apropos What's that What is the word

Apropos Oh like A derivative of appropriate? Fuck, Tom, I can't find it now. I had it today. I had it earlier today because I was... But basically, it was the tweet about how partner... Oh, here it is.

The gender neutral word partner really has been hijacked by progressive women who don't want to admit the fact that they are actually dating the white cishet dude bro they've been loudly railing against their whole woke lives. Now this was a big about a month ago or so. We had this very conversation about an Apple shop intern this summer. She kept referring to her partner and we were like oh

cool. And then this loser dude showed up. We were like come on. You knew what you were doing here. You knew this was false salesmanship. Like what's your deal? He sucked so bad. So you were doing here You knew this was false salesmanship Like what's your deal He sucked so bad So you were expecting

Yeah Absolutely So what you're saying is just say boyfriend I don't know I am definitely one who's like boyfriend girlfriend Sounds so juvenile But do you use partner Tom Sometimes Tom sometimes my bitch

no thompson's ball and chain ball and chain is gender neutral no ball and chain that's the gender neutral This particular tweet This particular tweet though is of A series of tweets I've seen Lately that engage In I'm creating this term On our show because we are the progenitors Of the woke reach right

What did you just say I don't have a clue what you just said You know the woke Reach like And what was the P word Come on Progengenitor real in the discourse you don't like that word you don't like the gen you don't like progenitor i guess also i have to admit that i listened to an episode i wasn't on which i hate to do but now you have to explain to me why i had to hear on our podcast that you don't like to be called t-ray it's okay when you do it it's totally okay when you do it okay i'm a coward

okay well from now on whatever you want from now on it's t-ray call me what you want just don't call me broke um i don't mind it it's just that sometimes people do it because they can't they don't feel close enough to me to call me just terrence which is like i know that's not why you do it but some people do it for that reason um especially yeah yeah yeah like t-ray is less personal than terrence yeah yeah it's kind of like you know it's just a nickname you know what i mean Terrence? Yeah. It's just a nickname. You know what I mean?

Because I feel like if someone calls me TBT, they know me. Yeah. I guess T-Ray's a little different. No, I think it functions on the same sort of level as TBT. It doesn't work for Tom, I guess, because it would be T-Sex. That's how he is in my phone.

That's really the best. The sexy boy. Tom used to have a radio show called Sexton in the Morning, which was great. That's bizarre. And Sexton in the Evening. And now you've got Sexton in the Evening, which is... Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes.

Occasionally. Yeah, no, there's... So, no, the tweet I just read... Okay so you know rephrase what you fucking say okay we are the originators is that a right was that a right synonym tom i think so of what you would call the woke reach you know the example we gave in the episode maybe you weren't in was that some guy was doing the fish no she was there on the dance floor we were talking about when keeping it what goes wrong yeah yeah yeah you were on that one yeah but there is a trend i've noticed lately in twitter that i don't

know why i mean sure it's been around forever probably on tumblr for a while we just need to remember when we were desperately trying to figure out a, like, a segment? Like, we're going to have a common segment. We never did figure one out. We don't have a segment. Oh, oh, oh. We have several segments. I would say now we do.

We just don't call them that? Well, we've got Speak Your Peace. We've got Tom's Tennis Take. That never comes up when I'm here. Well, that would just, we just made that one up. That was just a request. That's by request. I'd like the tennis take, but I feel here. Well, that would just, we just made that one last week. That was just a request. That's by request. I'd like the tennis take, but I feel like.

This is a new segment. Twitter trends. It's definitely a segment that we just need to coin. This one's a sub segment under the segment. This is a sub segment. This is, this one is what I would call, I'm calling it the woke straw man. You know, after the sort of, you know, somebody's, you know, rhetorical. What'd you say a straw man You know after the sort of You know somebody's Rhetorical

What did you say a straw man is Tom? You create this sort of false Just this false character To illustrate a point about society That's not even like nobody even abides by Right well I think there's something That I'm calling the woke straw man And the partner tweet is one example of it

What it does is it creates a demographic of people that don't exist and then attributes just just so you can sort of like wokely attack it for the retweets and the faves you know what i'm saying so um so that one was one of them the one you just mentioned was like the progenitor which one i feel like the uh partner partner wouldn't right well that's the first if we're going first in the genre yeah if we're going to a unified theory of woke straw men people who yada yada yada whatever it is yes yeah i i wrote down a few today um that if we turn this into a segment people should submit their own because it's kind of fun. You can just actually, it's very easy to create.

One that I saw yesterday from Slate, because I'm reading this book about Bonobo. Bonobo? Bonobos? Whatever. Like the instrument?

Like the primate. Like the primate. The primate, yeah. The animal. And I did a Google search of them last night. And the first thing that came up was this article in Slate. It says, why do we idolize chimps when we could be imitating feminist bonobo? To me, this is a perfect example of the woke straw man.

No one idolizes chimps. Not one person. Not one person idolizes chimps. We think they're cute and kind of quirky when they communicate with us. Right, but they can rip your arms off. They're incredibly violent. Yeah, Pack of Chimps will rip your shit off. But they only did that just so they could posit the second part.

We should be imitating the feminist Bonobo. I feel like there's a tributary here to when people communicate with... tributary here to when people communicate with broadly you know in some on some fucking platform with like the people who didn't show up to this or the people who did who have missed this bow you know what i mean like subtweet yeah like okay let's say more about that let's say we had a party in whitesburg and 200 people showed up okay that's like basically most of more people than we wanted to see probably right but i get on twitter and i'm like we're fucking raging in whitesburg where are you bitches yeah yeah yeah everybody's fucking here

you got part of it right because what you've done is create a false demographic that doesn't exist where are you bitches you bitches is the false demographic here because you bitches are actually with yeah this was a stupid local example but this happens all the time where it's like y'all miss this no we all we all saw it yeah y'all sleep y'all sleeping on the... Actually, Cardi just did this, so I'm not going to rag her for it, but she always does this. I do this to our fans a lot, too.

Well, to people on Twitter. Like, y'all are sleeping on our podcast. Yeah. That is the one... Yeah, they're really there. They really are. Yeah, that's true. Really, if we're talking about this

in a marketing standpoint, we should be like, congrats, y'all. You're fucking built up this podcast. Y'all are doing it. Pretend like everyone's listening to the podcast. A false demographic is what you're saying. Oh, yeah, that'd be good.

I'd like to just say thanks to our 6,000 new listeners. That's what I'm saying. Y'all keep us number one on 88.7. Shout out to our one million listeners last week and the 30 people who hit me up at the West 6th event. Hi!

Crazy how fast success is coming. I just bought a new Louis bag. I feel so great. Let's retroactively apply that to the people that you said creeped you out the the hordes of people the hordes of creepy there was a line there was a line at the apple shop table we thought it was to buy t-shirts it was to talk to me oh god damn it we're gonna have to fucking knock them boards out get her out out of this guy. Created a monster. Created a fucking monster.

Okay. So the example of the woke straw man, I had a few that I went on a walk today and I was trying to think of some funny ones. One that I did come up with. Do you walk with that notepad? I do. Tell me you don't.

I do. Can you imagine? He looks like a fucking narc. He's walking through the woods looking for fucking weed patches to write down coordinates. He looks like a fucking narc. He's walking through the woods looking for fucking weed patches to write down coordinates. He looks like a narc. You're going to get shot. I've got my GPS and my... No, I do walk with it.

I'm sorry. I keep derailing. What else am I supposed to write on? The image of you walking through the woods with this fucking yellow legal pad is just a little more than I can handle. The day I'm walking on that path and he comes down out of the hills with that legal pad it's just a little more than the day i see the day i'm walking on that path and he comes down out of the hills that legal pad and just looks like didn't see you there i can't um now one example i gave to tom was uh i gotta get the right tone because it's all about

tone too like the woke straw man it's all about tone yeah so it's like those you who say all coal miners are bathists are awfully silent when it comes to the atrocities of the asadists it depends on who it depends on the the crux of this joke is that you know who both the shire outside is in the bath part all you entomologists out there who say that a bug's life wasn't an accurate representative portrayal of a bug's life need to answer for your utter apathy on the issue of windshields on high-speed vehicles you see what i'm saying so you can do it these were better examples than I had. Oh my god. Describe to me though the imagery of a straw man. Is it like

It's just a conservative term. Conservatives always accuse people on the left. I took a class in college about rhetoric and there was like eight rhetorical tools that you had to memorize. It was like red herring,

the straw man, the very, you know, very... Who's the red herring? A red herring is kind of like a straw man, I believe. It's just like one detail off from the straw man. Is a red herring an art?

I don't know. It's a communist herring is what it is. I don't know it's a communist hearing is what it is i don't know well anyways that was that one and segment begins and the segment ends we'll we'll go back to that one so uh yeah uh so what's going on what What's going on in the world? You went on a vacation for a week and a half. How you doing, Tom? I haven't really hung out with you.

It's the first time I've seen you, actually. Is this a new tee? Huh? Is this a new tee? Good fall look? It is a good fall look. You love the horizontal stripes.

I know. I think, here's a little piece of advice to our, to, you know, our chubby listeners. Chubby, our chubby listeners out there,

of which I am not a listener, but you know. You're not listening to the podcast. Contrary to what you think, horizontal stripes actually flatter you more than vertical stripes. Everybody will tell you differently. It's not true. This weekend I bought a dress with some horizontal stripes. Some are going like diagonal too.

And I thought of you. I was like, you know what? I think this is flattering. And I think Tom was right. Yeah, it is true. We discussed this over your black and white tee. Yeah. Well, I don't really see a whole lot of tees that have vertical stripes though. They're out there.

You know what? Mostly a vertical stripe comes in a bowling tee shirt. You know what does have vertical stripes though. They're out there. You know what does have mostly a vertical stripe comes in a bowling t-shirt. You know what does have vertical stripes? Those two beautiful towers that fell down 17 years ago. Yesterday. Fuck has it been that long?

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Have you heard about this guy from the league? That makes me feel so old. Steve Rennes or whatever. Yeah, the league, the show. He was a comedian he is a comedian he like lied for years about all about being a not being in the tower

yeah yeah i did hear about this is this bizarre he stole he stole 9-11 valor well this is what i was thinking about this last night i wonder if there's anybody out there who has literally the opposite story who was actually in the towers during 9-11 denies the shit they still the opposite of valor yeah they deny being there yeah and you press them on their lies more and more and they're well i guess one guy that was like that they caught him those names osama bin laden no he actually did he how long did it take bin laden to claim 9-11 claim 9-11 pretty instantly right well back then they didn't have twitter so he probably posted a video to the internet and um no i don't know maybe they sent a v maybe he sent like a vhs

to the white house yeah i don't know i don't know how he would know or how they would know that he took claim for it terence sent me a text earlier this week he said uh it's been 17 years you think it's about time to rehabilitate osama bin laden and at first i scoffed at the notion patriot that i am, but... But rehabilitate. I mean, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Is, you know... I like he's making my case for me. Okay, I'll just...

Let me flesh that out a little bit and I'll come with it. See, Bin Laden was bouj. He was definitely bougie. He was from a very rich family in Saudi Arabia. That's the only reason I'm hesitating on this. Not because he was responsible for 3,000 deaths, but because he was a billionaire. I just can't wait for

Obama to get senile and when they pay him whatever to come out and do some kind of speech, he'll be like, I caught Osama. Just like something crazy like that's the only thing he remembers of his presidency in his old age no probably only remember cylindra that was the only scandal we uh we caught him uh saw his dick he was checking his dick it It was pretty impressive to be both dead and weather beaten. Weather beaten.

I'm not going to make that. Listen, I want to do, there's two things I want to talk about today. We're not going to talk about 9-11? There's really nothing to say about it other than. Literally, we can't say anything that's not been said I do really love the Where were you when the world stopped turning post Of like

On September 11th 2001 I was in my classroom Everybody does that every year too I know and I only mention this because I stopped and read one From a teacher from my high school Because I was afraid she might mention me because I got in a ton of trouble that day because I made jokes you made jokes in the

you were like the moments I woke up from a nap in class literally I mean this is this is one of the only artifacts because I've a lot of my memories burnt out from from obvious reasons and i was a complete piece of shit for most of my teenage years no whoa i'd say you were ahead of your head of the curve but what about being a piece of shit i mean i didn't have or you had you mean irony you were being ironic about 9-11 is that what you mean by she's 17 years ago that's impressive no no i'm telling you this is the only... Because mostly I was a piece of shit. Just like fighting other girls.

Just like cussing people out. Just like acting like a complete idiot. Fighting girls on the softball field. Stupid shit. But on 9-11 I woke up from a nap and I was kind of disoriented. And I knew what had been going on, but like classes had shut down. I'd say the whole country woke up from a nap that morning.

Anyway, and they were like, oh my God, they've shut down all airports. All airports are shut down. And I said, somebody's losing a lot of money. I got sent to the fucking principal's office. You just woke up out of a nap and said that? Yeah, for that. I got sent to the fucking principal's office. You just woke up out of a nap and said that? Yeah, for that. I got sent to the principal's office. Come on.

I thought you were going to say something about the falling man or something. Yeah. No, I mean, it was the day of, the day it happened. Yeah. But I was like, somebody's losing a lot of money if they've shut down all the things. Someone took a Boeing 747 up the ass. You know what I'm saying? That's what's my slight glimpse of of capitalism do y'all remember how

craving people were though like do y'all remember like instantly gas prices shooting through the roof yeah yeah well it immediately i mean okay since it was 2001 my aunt had been a uh y2k fucking oh really yeah she had been like her entire fucking garage was like it came it's just gasoline everything well 2001 happened she just like reverted she just like went right back to it was like see i've i think in my head i've confused the memory of 9-11 with alia dying because it happened around the same around thealiyah was more tragic for my personal life. And it happened via a plane crash. So I think I've confused the two moments.

Well, how'd that Colombian guy got drunk and ran that plane into those two towers killing Aaliyah? All I remember is an entire Bell County High School Cause what What grade were we in Like Eighth We were like I was eighth

You probably were ninth No I think I was a Freshman or sophomore Or something like that What year did you graduate In high school Oh four So did Tom right

Were you a three or a four Yeah I fucking was a four Oh three Damn y'all would've been The big kids Y'all would've been Fucking picking on me and shit Kicking your ass

Kicking my ass Anyway Who a fucking bitch? Don't mean lockers, pussy boy. I already forgot what I was about to say. Hey, wait, wait, wait. We need to read the speaker piece today. Okay. Because there are some excellent

speaker pieces today. Is this why we started recording on Wednesdays? Please do. It's one of the reasons. I mean, we can record on a Tuesday if necessary, but sometimes there's just some real good shit in there. Real gems. Yeah. I'll kick it off with this one.

To show how screwed up and sad things in our country today, I put my flag stamps on upside down as a subtle form of protest. I wish everyone would do that and i do wish our country would straighten up thank you wow that's pretty good one yeah i like that i circled it i feel like chris dye could really turn that into a nice painting yeah that's a good one shout out to all the people using the postal service but sub subversively. I'm gonna do that.

I'm gonna fuck it up, though, and turn my fucking Elvis stamps upside down. Yeah, hell yeah. That's it, man. I'm just protesting his co-option of black music. I have a neighbor on Dodie Creek who claims I am a cop. This is the funniest one. It's funny if some kid just called this guy a cop. Dodie Creek who claims I am a cop this is the funniest one it's funny if some kid just called this guy a cop listen to this well if I'm a cop do I drive a cop car do I have a cop's

badge do I pack a cop's gun no I don't you're the one my friend who's a cop i just love how cop is like the like a slur now no it's become listen thank god yeah yeah yeah for the longest time i feel like we didn't have i've been thinking about this and i kind of want to talk about it on this episode we have with katie sleninger maybe this weekend but i kind of feel like there's a a rhetoric of dissent or resistance or whatever the fuck you want to call it that we didn't have 10 years ago so like bootlickers coming back in style and i like that cop calling somebody a cop as a as a pejorative as a uh it was the cops almost had like a friends of cole moment where they like figured out their shit and got their valor back somehow because i i always grew up with people were like don't you know fuck when i was fucking

cops yes yeah i almost i swear i was thinking this week i almost sometimes when i think of a funny joke i'm like oh i should figure out how to put this on twitter anyway i didn't make it that far i didn't give a fuck but save it for the podcast yeah uh i was like i wish i remember when the worst thing you could say about somebody was they were a fucking scab yeah that's what i'm talking about yeah that's back to the worst yeah scab is back because people know what scab is again yeah if scabbing is again if we're gonna gauge the left's influence on popular culture i think that's probably our biggest contribution. We'll probably lose in the political arena.

We'll probably end up in a fucking labor camp somewhere outside Kalamazoo. But here's the thing. We reintroduced those words back into the lexicon. Scab. Scab, cop, bootlicker, et cetera, et cetera. I was listening to 88.7 the other day and some girl was playing good music

then some guy got on the air talking about antibiotics and brain cells this has to be Hoopman I hate to have to tell him that I don't believe he has a brain cell in his head that was foolishness if this guy thinks he was being

funny he needs to get a real job and a life Agreed You think that was Hoopman? Who else was talking about brain cells and antibiotics On the radio? It definitely was Caroline and Hoopman It did occur to me that it might have been me

Although it could have been me playing good music And then Steve Ruth I feel like he would say some dumb shit like that I'm just trying to center myself here. Very true. If you keep going to Fish Pond Lake and taking x-rated pictures of people. So there is an

ongoing fucking saga in the Speak Your Peace pages about people fucking at Fish Pond. There is no less than two or three Speak Your Peace's just this week about it. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. That's where you do it at. Well, yeah.

You're just jealous you ain't get, Manny. I didn't grow up here, so I wouldn't have a 30-year-old man. I fucked a fish pond at least four times. Why would I go to a fish pond and fucking have a house? That's true. What's him having an affair with a married man or woman? We're going to walk out there and catch Terrence going to town on somebody.

A unicorn, Terrence. Probably a bear. A bear. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, Tom. Go ahead. If you keep going to Fish Pond Lake and taking X-rated pictures of people, you're going to wind up in prison someplace. You better cool it and cool it quick, buddy.

Is that happening? We got a peeping Tom at Fishpond? A peeping Tom with a camera at Fishpond. Is there a better name for him than that? I guess that's just a legit fucking... If you are taking pictures of people naked against their will, that is a... I believe that's sexual assault. I think that's called voyeurism.

Yeah, that's it. I think that will land you on the sexual offenders list, won't it? I'll get you five to seven in most jurisdictions. I believe it will. At the very least, it'll get you a speaker piece.

When I'm not around to get my mail out of my mailbox, my next door neighbor gets in my box and steals my mail out of it. That's a federal gets in my box and steals my mail out of it. That's a federal offense pal. Have a nice day crook. Okay some of these I just circled because I like I can hear Tom reading them and I'm like this will be good.

No matter what you say and speak your face if you follow it up with pal it's funny. Yeah exactly. Thank you. God bless. Bye. That's my favorite. The abrupt thank you god bless bye that's my favorite the abrupt thank you bye yeah god bless america signing off and what's also funny about that is it's like if somebody's not stealing your social security check they ain't welcome taking them goddamn bills or anything else i got in my mailbox okay hold on before you read the next one because

terrence has given me the key to our Instagram. Oh yeah. And I'm gonna put it, I'm gonna record you doing it on the Instagram. Oh yeah, turn that light off.

There's a live. How does this work? Well, can you turn that lamp on? I'm trying to get my incense brick to burn. Are you sick? I can,

that lamp doesn't work. Yeah. No, I just like to do it from Beyonce. Okay. Well, this is very light because...

I can turn the lights up. You want me to turn the lights up? Yeah, bring the lights up. No, this is good. I don't like too much light. I look bad. Perfect. Oh, God.

You can bring it down a little. Bring it down. Bring it down a little. Yeah, come on. Will you calm? Here we go. Good. You fucking scab.

Okay. I'd like to respond to a comment in Speak Your Peace in which the caller was bashing me over talking about a black car. If you'd like to know, I am now 77 years old. My wife died five years ago. I really do appreciate you sticking your nose in my business without knowing all the facts. How do you even know whether I'm talking about the same car and truck?

You don't think there's more than one black car in the state of Kentucky? You don't think there are more pickups from the state of Virginia that go to the fishpond lake? I hope you can sleep at night, man. God bless you. Oh, fuck. I like that one sleep it not make God bless you Oh fuck I like that one because I think it was the Peeping Tom answering Or at least someone

Who was accused of being a peeping Tom Was answering and saying look Okay so in this same Issue We got someone being Accused of being a peeping Tom and the accuser Taking that for themselves And saying, look. Okay, so in this same issue, we got someone being accused of being a peeping Tom and the accuser taking that for themselves. Yeah. In the same issue.

Yeah. And it was funny because he gave a lot of details about his identity. He was like, I'm a 75-year-old man. My wife died five years ago. I like to jerk off to people fucking in Pitfall and Lake. I let him have that, really. you think I'm the only black car yeah like why else

you think I'm the only black car watching people fuck up here here's my question how do you think that you've been like what makes you unless you were actually doing it think that you've been targeted for taking pictures of people in Fishpond Lake unless you were actually doing it think that you've been targeted for taking pictures of

people at fishpond like unless you were actually doing it yeah like someone calls it i know it's you yeah right god damn i like this one dot dot dot i know the conservative websites to go to get the good information about hillary clinton it's even go to get the good information about Hillary Clinton. It's even hard to believe the FBI anymore. It's even hard to believe the FBI anymore. It had an ellipses at the beginning of it. Dot, dot, dot. Do you think that means they wrote it in? Yeah.

I guess they had to. Absolutely. Wow. I was sitting here watching a TV station that has a whole lot of honky-tonkers on the TV playing their music. I don't think that's going to work. I don't know where that one's getting at. To a certain person, I think you need to practice what you preach. That way it doesn't smack you right back in the face when it comes to drunk driving.

I know who that's about. We got a drunk driving preacher here in the county? I think so. Damn. On the loose uh to the person that had the questions about hillary clinton's emails being compromised they were and we found not and we would not excuse me they were and we would not have found out about it if they hadn't been classified believe me hillary clinton's the smartest criminal in the history of this country her help from mccabe and stirzok is that how you say that yeah the fbi guys

i can't remember which oh yeah yeah i remember those guys they're like in the news yeah they were the ones that were like texting yeah yeah which brought the fbi down a notch has been some of the best criminal work I've ever seen. This is all political bull and hate for Donald Trump. Sessions is a plant for the Democratic Party and Rosenstein is his side man. See ya. Sessions is a plant for the Dems.

Yeah, Sessions is a plant for the Dems. Rosenstein is his side man. See ya. See ya. I just like the idea. Hillary Clinton's the most criminal mastermind yeah when lately

the Clintons are probably the dumbest criminals in the history of this country okay two things here let's pause one is

the other day I got y'all know Red yeah oh yeah fucking Red very much so he's such a

fucking nut anyway he came in the other day and michelle you know it's got like a sleeve of tattoos and he was like what and on her lower forearm or whatever it's like her great great some grandma and kids or some shit and he was like what is that what is that on your arm and i couldn't stop myself i said it's just Hillary checking her emails. How did he respond to that? He just looked at me and Matilda died laughing. So he was like well I've got to go. He just took off.

He's a coward once you actually push him on stuff. Yeah. He has a big game like he's this big MAGA guy. Yeah. And he tries to throw it in your face. But once you actually fight back a little bit he immediately caves. Oh yeah. The other day he said back when you could really tell a joke i said ran you're the joke and he's like well he's like i

gotta go for i have got my dignity and he stormed out that is the most fascinating thing about the maga psychology it's like they're constantly like challenging people to fight them and so once you actually stick up for yourself and fight back, they're immediately just like, oh, immediately like you can't tell jokes anymore. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. You can't even joke anymore. Also, whoever they were listening to probably wasn't that goddamn funny anyway. Yeah.

Well, you said two things. What was the second? The other thing is, how long before we start playing Good Speak Your Peace? Yeah, we could do that. It did occur to me. And I was like, how would anybody really know? Did we ever find out who wrote to Tom and Terrence? Yeah he commented on our

Instagram. Oh really? Yeah he said so they actually printed it huh? And I was like are you the one behind this? I think his name was Andy shout out to Andy. Yeah shout out to Andy that was pretty funny. And it was printed three and a half months ago when he actually sent it in it's just I didn't get around to posting it on Instagram

until we had an Instagram. I wish you crazy people quit trying to save our country from the greatest present this country's ever had. Quit trying to save it! Yeah, crazy people. Quit trying to save that which doesn't need saved. I mean, I agree. Let it burn.

That may be all. I don't know, Tom. Really, I just wanted you to get the one about the cop. Do y'all think we could get a hold of the speaker pieces that don't make the cut? That don't get to print? That's what we really need to blow out this podcast.

Really start making money. As if we can get to the Speak Your Pieces of the Venture County Mount Neagle. That's the pot of gold on the other end of the rainbow. Yeah, that's it. If we can get that, fucking sky's the limit.

Oh, fuck. I think that's all we got for this week. Lord have mercy. Alright, there's one more. To certain fishermen slash maintenance man. You need to quit reading Speak Your Peace and start doing your job. You also fish worse than a three year old. That was pretty good. Sick burn dog.

Worse than a three year old. A good woke straw man would be a good woke straw man would be like, all you... Let me think about this. All of you out there who use the word bootlicker are suspiciously silent when it comes to cobblers

whose whole lives are sacrificed to making boots. The boots that we all say people lick. Exactly. I was in, like, when we were in Lexington this weekend, I drove past a big, I guess it was a big boot factory, and it was an H, the company started with an H, I can't remember what it's called, but it said, on the side it had a huge picture of a cop on the building it said heroes where hurts or whatever it was i don't fucking

know and i was like uh terrence will love this this is really terrence's shit exactly have you not y'all know what galls is absolutely huh it's like the first responder supply store. Galls? Galls, G-A-L-L-S. They've got all like the tactical. First responder supply store. That exists. That you don't even have to be a first responder to buy shit from. Suffice it to say, they carry a lot of Under Armour. It ain't even as tight wrapped as the cosmetology stores where you go in and they literally straight up ask for your license.

Really? Oh, fuck yeah. Oh fuck yeah oh yeah wait wait wait so you're saying there's more leeway when it comes to buying military absolutely than buying like nightsticks and billy clubs then it is cosmetics yeah i have been turned away from cosmetic stores for buying discounted hair dye Because I'm not a cosmetologist And they asked for my fucking papers That's the truth

You know what this is why You trying to get that mask Let me see your papers I mean it's straight up I mean it's There's all kinds of weirdness Around being a fucking hairdresser Like You have to go to school You literally have to go to school there's all kinds of weirdness around being a fucking hairdresser like

you have to go to school you literally have to go to school for like two years and pass a state board test to cut hair any dumb dick bob can cut down any tree inside you know what I mean

and it's truly bizarre that is really weird it's crazy the things that we regulate in this country is i love when you did that regulate things that we regulate scare quotes regulate regulate winking with him they call it or so they say damn lexington was pretty wild me and matt were maybe 50 yards away from a lightning strike oh yeah and then y'all were extending a puddle of water i say i think at the same time i think y'all were a little further than that tom doesn't buy my story okay listen all the tall me if you and me

you have anyone to be calling anybody out just let me stop bullshit I'm the veracity checker told more tall tales the stories alone you have told us from scuttle hole gap

you have told me that Scuttlehole Gap. You have told me that a man had a pet bear that sat and watched TV with him. You swear? I've been telling you. Hold on a second. Not a panther. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Not a panther lived under a man's trailer. No, I said a guy said that, and that and that was bullshit yeah walk it back now sexton hold on a second i'm gonna prove y'all the bear story though sexton in the afternoon ain't so fucking hot busy hold on a second hold on a second y'all getting ready to eat all kinds of crow matthew hey i need you to verify one thing for me, because my buddies think I'm lying. Alright. Does Roger Urie not have a goddamn bear as a pet? Yeah.

He's eight and a half years old. Tell them about it. I got you on speaker. He comes up there all the time. I mean, they feed him in the nighttime. He was at a coal mine. He was a there all the time. I mean, they feed him every night time. He was at a coal mine. He was a cub, and he was at a coal mine.

And the bear just kept coming around, kept coming around. And then eventually, like, it was a cub, so they couldn't leave it at night. Nobody else would feed it, so he just took it up out of his house. And he goes up on top of the mountain, sleeps, and does whatever he does. And then he comes back down there when he's hungry. They feed it. It's come up my house two or three times, apart from does whatever it does. And then it comes back down there when it's hungry. They feed it. It's come up my house two or three times. I've heard where the dog, where we live at.

Hey, now tell me this. Has he not walked that motherfucker like a dog upside the road? Yeah, yeah. We put a leash on it and walked it. I mean, it ain't that big. It's about 250 pounds. I swear. It's that big.

That's all I needed, pal. I see you'll sell you. Fuck you. God damn it. This photo, friend. Look, I'm not calling Matt to verify. All right, I don't need that. I don't need...

Oh, fuck. I didn't want that big by 250 pounds. Yeah, he goes up on the mountain and sleeps or whatever he does. Just a night time. He has somewhere to go. yeah he goes he goes up on the mountain and sleeps or whatever he does if you're feeding a bear like you're just feeding cats god damn he just comes up so walk I don't know. So walk it around so Tom can make a point on the podcast. It's come up to my house turn three times. I hope that recorded cleanly. It did.

I could hear it in my voice. Oh, my God. That's good podcast. We really do need to start phoning a friend more. Like when my sister called in the mail. That didn't end up being great. That was all right. Did that make the cut? It did. I put that that one on patreon so i included every we made a lot

of dry snitches in that out in that episode so i was like let's just put that on page um that way if the cops want to get out and they have to pay five dollars a month we'll take your money now you uh were in the process of calling out terrence for lying about no no no no i wasn't saying he was lying i just think that maybe that water tower was a little further away 50 yards it was right across the street from the borough and we were right at the borough i mean how much is how wide is the street it's probably closer than 50 yards what's your what's your account? It struck the water tower.

No, I don't know that. No, it did. It flicked it like a nipple. The electricity did go out in the burrow because of the lightning. The lightning was intense. This is what I get for hanging out with drunks because the only people who saw this were fucked up. That's true. I don't know, man. And Matt literally, he told me that as soon as he was like with a few people, it wasn't just you all, some other people.

It was me and Russ and Matt. Yeah. Is it? Matt said that as soon as it happened, he tried to run run in the building then he quickly noticed no one else was moving and he had to like stay in there and stand his grail we all jumped in did that and sort of huddled into each other all three of us just sort of like huddled around each other and then we're like oh that was weird man um um all right we're at 50 minutes um is this our 69th episode and we're not gonna mention it no that's i think it's even funnier if we i think it's funnier if we don't mention it at all

everybody's expecting you know oh well um this is our 69th episode um there is one thing i want to talk about this is a missed opportunity one semi- is one thing I want to talk about. This is a missed opportunity. One semi-serious thing I want to talk about. Not that serious. On our 69th episode. Yeah. Yeah.

It's, you know, every episode's got to have its yin and yang. Majority, you know, just irreverent humor and then relatively serious shit no the only thing i wanted to talk about this is the only point i wanted to make tom posted about it earlier today a little bit but did you notice how did you notice um okay let me see how to frame this you know how they had the sore thing last month at the very end of the month yeah did you notice how hal rogers announced that they had gotten four and a half million dollars for the prison like for the water lines for the prison i didn't see how he did it but i saw that like uh yeah i got i got the memo check this shit out You could maybe make the argument that all three of us sitting here were somewhat complicit in receiving that money for those water lines. work for advocated for and even facilitated brought into existence the pilot program or

whatever that he's that he drew this money from which we said all along well it's funny yes exactly it's funny because me and tom yes all three of us we'd said this forever that it was a trap that we were walking right into a trap you can can't fucking work with your enemies. You can't. You absolutely cannot. But a lot of people are not walking away with that conclusion. What's the conclusion? That you can't work with your enemies. Double down, keep it going.

Double down, like we were saying earlier, just deny. Deny, deny, deny. Well, if you think about it, it's just the liberal way. Yeah. I've been trying to think of a way to phrase this, and I don't think it's anything groundbreaking that's not been said before. But when I was a liberal, one thing I loved. Because it's testimonials when I was a liberal. One thing I loved was the sort of Magneto Professor X juxtaposition.

Like, you know, best friends with completely opposite worldviews that actually try to destroy each other fairly often. But then get together to play chess, you know, and shit like that. Liberals love that fantasy. They do. Let's call it the Magneto Professor X fantasy. Magneto Professor X. To apply it to real life the john mccain brock obama thing to them compromises virtue yeah or the john mccain joe biden friendship yeah i was complaining about my facebook one time to one of these people i was like oh it's just any anytime anything happens any fucking headline

that you know it's trending it's just a beret of bullshit just every possible hot take you can think is on my facebook and she was like that's because you're a connector you're the you're the nexus of all the various um ideas that's that's that's a malcolm gladwell thing right that needs that there's like connectors there's like three three archetypes of people and apparently tanya's a connector i forget what the other two are now yeah i just looked at her like connectors disruptors and bootlickers probably that sounds right although there is a great deal of booleaking that is a part of connecting actually. That's all it is in fact. That's really all liberalism is.

Booleaking 101. Let's make this a segment. When I was a liberal Well okay so the reason that's actually a good segue because when I was a liberal I was literally one of the people who advocated for this. I don't know if you remember this I wrote an article in 2013 that specifically, at Mimi's insistence,

but specifically, yeah, she literally almost made me do this, but specifically was like, you've got two and a half billion dollars in this abandoned mine lines fund that is created out of every ton of coal that's mined in the US, 80 cents or whatever goes into this fund you got two and a half billion dollars no one's doing anything with it what if you use the money

for like economic transition in the coal fields that's actually what's happening right now it's just being used for prisons but not the kind we want prisons and inner blue we dug our own grave so yeah well we did you're we did but it was what's sad it was i was a liberal and could did not see that that was the saddest part of this did you finish what you were saying tom about magneto i forgot when you were a liberal i forgot what i was going with that no you finished it you were saying i was just pointing out that liberals love this fantasy of being able to agree to disagree with people that even vehemently disagree with you. And for you to just have a beer afterward or whatever. Essentially coat switch.

Yeah. Something similar to that. The real fucking tragedy here is that he got more money allocated for that fucking water plant than Martin County got. For, yeah, they could use an entire new water system in Martin County. There's more money for water to a hypothetical prison. That's the thing, though. And 100 people. 100 people will be hooked up. 100.

Yeah, 100. In Roxanna. 100 homes plus the 1,200-bed prison. And nobody stops. And we've been beaten down to the point where nobody stops and asks, why the fuck don't those 100 people have access to water? Well, not to mention, isn't it like a big... When Rogers came to... Anyway, to finish the thought,

it's Martin County, every single person in Martin County has shit water. Right. Yeah. Every single person. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Thousands of people. Yeah.

And there's actually a federal prison there, but they get that water from Prestonsburg, which is a really fascinating story that somebody should look into. Yeah, the Martin County water is not even fit for that process. Yeah, yeah. But to me... I had another thought lost. Go ahead. No, you go ahead. What were you going to say? Walk it out.

Yeah, walk it out, Tom. Walk it out. To me, the whole thing just kind of like... To me, it's a perfect example of the sort of like, not just the limitations, but this like the profound error at the heart of thinking that like, of thinking that you can have any kind of sort of redistributive program in a capitalist system. And furthermore, that you can use nonprofits as a vehicle for achieving that. So, for example, the only reason I say that is because the creation of this AML fund program that Hal Rogers used for this,

the only reason anybody was advocating for it was it wasn't like working people were advocating. It was people like me. It was like the professional managerial bourgeois. You know what I mean? People funded by grants and stuff. This is entirely a grant-funded campaign and grant-funded advocacy work.

And it just goes to show you that that's not the way to actually see change. I don't know. To me, this is a perfect... It's a good example of that. I'm probably not articulating it well, but do you kind of see what I'm... Yeah, I got you. I got you.

What I was getting at is that word on the street, which I feel like is something Tom would say, is that when Hal came to town To announce The record of decision He was furious Or rod When Hal Came to hand down The rod

He was furious With our judge executive Supposedly because He had already squandered Two mil for this had already squandered two mil for this same project. Squandered. Gone. What is the word? Two million?

Just down the drain. No accounting for it. I have no idea where it went. Two million that he had sent him for this very get to fucking deal with the water situation well you know what prison i i said this you know a lot of us have said this if it doesn't wind up getting built

it will be because of the own ineptitude of our of our county government which is hilariously ironic that they fought so hard to get it here and then and then they're fumbling and all the step with every step of the way yeah so what i love is that your uh repercussions for losing two million dollars is to receive 5.4 million dollars that's what that's that's what happens to men in power democrats no less in this county yep yeah no no, it's pretty dark. But I don't know. I just thought that there was kind of a really weird irony in that, in the sense that those of us who don't want to see a prison built

are also kind of. Terrence, don't you know you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't? Yeah, no. That is my daily mantra at my job right now. If I do it, I'm fucked. If I do it, I'm fucked. If I don't, I'm fucked. That's the exact situation I am.

A big chunk of my job is to advocate for these policies that are feeding right into the prison. I'm having a serious breakdown about it because I've got to have money. But ultimately... That's not... I I mean I don't know it's really hard for to articulate it

but this kind of goes back to our episode about the grit grift and about just how like there's only a handful of types of non-profits and like the main type of non-profit that advocates for this kind of like solution to these problems

is predicated on the notion you're not actually subverting power. You're not actually challenging power. You're just trying to plug people into specific issues and get them to write their senator or their congressperson or get them to go to the

Capitol building or something. Which is the most which accomplishes nothing. Facilees facile well i'm at least totally out of the lobbying game that feels good yeah you remember tanya we used to go to the capitol and go with our hats in our hands to talk to fucking lawmakers and we would just walk out afterwards like that was pointless oh but everybody but what happens at those things is we all walk out and celebrate our progress i almost i went home and cried every time i ever went to the capitol i shout i felt like a piece of dog shit and that is by design that's how they want you to feel that's how legislators want you to feel if you come and deal with them they don't want you to feel fucking good about it

no they didn't want to see your ass they want you to feel dirty i hated it and i literally i remember one of my earliest KFTC fucking staff meetings. I don't know. I said something like, I'm just not really interested in lobbying as a tactic. And like eight people looked at me and basically in unison said, you're in the wrong job. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's a cult, man.

It reminds me of the same shit. Like when I was a kid and I was like, surely I don't believe the Bible's literal. Right. And everybody was like, you're in the wrong place i mean i bought into it more after that but that was in my early i was i was pretty i was i was pretty punk when i got that job and then i kind of like i was like okay i see i get it i get it is there a coconut in there uh is there a salted caramel dig me out of salted caramel i saw that on the list um but when i said you're damned if you're doing you're damned if you don't because i actually am into some things that i'm doing at work or that i'm at least seeing happen at work

at my job right now but everything i do even if it is i know deep down it's good people complain about it like the people i work with it's just it's just one of those job it's just one of those work environments no matter what you're damn if you do you never if i didn't do it people complain right then when i do it they still complain it doesn't matter right i'm creating stuff out of nothing left and right and people are like right it's just because i work with a lot of miserable people i mean i think a lot of people can relate to that oh yeah we're all miserable here. I don't necessarily feel miserable,

but I do feel like I'm... You can only feel so miserable, us, on a socialist podcast, sitting around eating macaroons. Yeah, I'm pretty good. I feel good. Which one's salted caramel? There's like a key on the back of the box. The treat of the French colonial empire.

Pistachio. Oh, God, that sounds terrible. Yeah. colonial empire pistachio god that sounds terrible um yeah well um so yeah yeah that's that's that's that uh fuck i've been sitting on your conscience well no not really i mean yeah i mean everything you do is um you know to a certain degree you're sort of culpable for things and you know you eat shit and you correct course and you try to be transparent about it and be like i'm learning figuring it out but i ate some shit but well i guess what really bugs me about it is that like i i came i figured this out a few years ago this isn't like i've realized this yesterday and was like oh shit i realized it a few years ago and ago and me and all three of us have been trying to tell people

involved in these campaigns and stuff like, look, it's a trap. They're just inviting you into the room to talk about. QFED, Admiral. It's a trap. They're just inviting you into the room so they can get progressive cover

for these things. And as soon as it's feasible, possible. You think you're telling them and influencing them. But the interesting thing is, is the only way, I hate to use words like effect change, I'm still trying to work that shit out in my vocabulary,

but it's something we talk about all the time is, you can't like come to power with suggestion. You have to confront it. you have to confront it you have to tell them you have to oppose their policies at every turn and everything they're about and even when you think they're right or within a range of right you can't rehabilitate them yeah you you can't you're right um i will say this so i just don't necessarily feel like I've got it figured out either you know I feel like I'm in a constant state of just like you're right bizarro I mean we are in a

circus we're still learning but we do know there are examples throughout history of things that have worked and the thing is is that again I feel like we've been sort of beating this horse to death but like i'm always fucking up idioms beating this horse to death beating the dead horse i'm into it man beating the dead horse the crown's heavy on the head it's my favorite idea i thought that was it heavy is the crown look no the thing is though is I feel like we've been sort of beating this horse to death for years. It is just that, like, we know some things that do work.

Organizing workplaces, shutting down prisons, shutting down least broaden the political horizon of things that are possible. I agree. And that's not going to occur if your only theory of change is going to people like Hal Rogers and being like, again, like me a few years ago. This is what you got to do. These are really wonky solutions. rogers in being like again like me a few years ago this is what you gotta do these are like really wonky solutions and the blood no the what's gonna wind up happening is he's gonna get four and a half million dollars and build prison and meanwhile it's couched in like well this is what these all these groups asked for exactly and the people spoke and they said they were water yeah

yeah or yeah now it's it's yeah i'll try to put it down in words or something it's i mean honestly though it's like we to me this feels like the example of smackra and i mean you know nothing's more boring than smack our history but i mean tom's covered it on a few episodes surface mine reclamation law right is that jim tom always says jimmy carter in the rose garden i was there with i was there with jimmy card in the rose garden when he signed smack like all those old activists always say that oh yeah i've got one in particular in my head who never shuts the fuck up about it and just complains constantly about every literally every other thing happening anywhere in the world the distance from her to the bathroom anything

whatever and just it's just like tons of activists created that legislation thinking that they knew better than whoever was actually i don't know whatever and they created because they were so self-centered in their ability to tell coal companies what's what. Yeah. They created a fucking law that hinged almost entirely on fucking broke down citizen fucking Toms and Joes. Right. To be like, here's where you're fucking up. And it just resulted in mountain type removal. Yeah. Yeah. It made things worse removal yeah yeah yeah it made things worse yeah just make things worse there's now there's less oversight by actual government right uh anyone who knows what the fuck they're talking about and more

oversight by jack and jill up the hill you know whose whales went dry fetching their pail of orange water yeah literally it literally. It's like, because they wanted more citizen participation. Right. Because they felt like they were locked out of a process. Well, they got what they wanted. Right.

Yeah, that's a good analogy. That's a good analogy. Anyway. Well, also activists in that more liberal sphere, which we've all occupied at some point or another, or still do,

also need to know that there are whims that sound good from a policy standpoint and that pad their their resumes out aren't necessarily compatible with what people actually want in the communities here is that yeah but the problem here is across human existence we do not learn from our mistakes and even worse or what's even would be more even better is if we learned from other people's mistakes you know who does though computers and this is why the age-old fucking mantra from mammy white did you make that up no west virginia mammy white

from the wild and wonderful watts is that computers as drugs is taking over the world that's that's the end of it so you're saying we need computer activists who will learn from their mistakes we need those self-driving cars in pittsburgh to organize become sentient and then organize yes that comes self-aware what i'm saying i think we can organize ai um it could be done it can be done i think so hell i resized a large document today. Felt like a fucking king. To smaller? Did you make it smaller? Did you shrink it? Yeah.

Nice. Oh, God. Well, so yeah, we got an hour and ten. I gotta pee. Yeah, we probably need to close this down. We're really not gonna make any 69 jokes. This is the 68.5 episode.

Okay, thank God. 68.5. Before we leave... If you want to go pee, I just want to get Tom's take real quick on the headline, the most insane headline I saw this week. Serena Williams' meltdown

is a sign that tennis lies at a crossroads. Wow. A meltdown? So what crossroads? This was in The Guardian. Tennis is an old rich kid's sport. There's no crossroads.

I thought it was absurd. So for those that are interested, Serena Williams, I mean it's been in the headlines a lot, played Japanese player named Naomi Osaka this weekend. Naomi Osaka beat her. Serena, not happy with the umpire, said some things to the umpire. And the thing about it all is that Serena's not debating that, that you know maybe yelling at an umpire is not the best thing but the just pointing out that the men do it all the time like and i mean there's

several players on the men's side nick curios called the same umpire son of a bitch and a fucker and all this stuff right novak jokovic the same umpire not even like other umpires like the same guy like all the best men's players have like reamed this guy and nothing happened but when serena did it like she was docked points and all this kind of stuff and she didn't call him any names did she no she just said that she wanted you know he owed her an apology owed her an apology saying that she was getting coached. And it's like, whether she was or not, like, who gives a fuck? Like, tennis is the only game

where you get penalized for coaching your players. Yeah, I don't even get it. Yeah, that's dumb. Well, that's Tom's tennis take. We need some cool Nothing else there.

It's just a sexist double standard. Nothing else to decode. What is it? One other thing I will add about that, though, is, you know, the Ben Garrison guy? Yeah. Like, that does all the racist cartoons or whatever. Yeah.

Well, there's, his Australian counterpart is this guy, I think, named Mark Knight that did a, uh. I saw that. A cartoon about Serena that, you know, projected her, like, having this her having this kind of big meltdown or whatever. And in the background, the umpire's saying to a blonde woman, tennis player that Serena's playing, could you just let her win already? And it's racist for two reasons.

One, because of the depiction of Serena, but two, because Serena wasn't playing a blonde white woman. She was playing a half Haitian, half Japanese player on the other side, another black woman. Who we brought up last week, or two weeks ago. It's really funny because when I signed up for the Instagram, I went through all the people

Tom follows. I was like, I've got to get inside the mind of Tom Sexton. Oh my god. And we went, and I was going down the list of tennis players that Tom follows. Naomi Osaka was one of them. And now, when people were talking about it this week, I was like, I know who that is. So anyway.

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